The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - 379: Mike Vecchione | The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler #379 | Full Episode

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

My HoneyDew this week is comedian Mike Vecchione! Check out his special Low Income White on YouTube. Mike returns to Highlight the Lowlights of growing up middle class in the ’80s and somehow devolving into “low income white” as an adult. We get into where his deep love for Waffle House began, plus some hilariously dark cemetery business ideas. We also dive into Mike’s relationship history, from a broken engagement to a string of brutal breakups, and how each one forced him to take a hard look at himself. That path of self-work eventually led him to where he is now - newly married and genuinely happy. 🎟️See me live. All tickets at www.ryansickler.com/tour 🎤Check out my new standup special “Live & Alive” streaming on my YouTube now! http://youtu.be/PMGWVyM2NJo?si=SrhXjgzR1pe6CyYE 👉 Subscribe for more standup and new episodes of The HoneyDew, The Wayback, and more! http://youtube.com/@rsickler ✅ Subscribe to my Patreon “The HoneyDew with Y’all”! Get The HoneyDew audio and video a day early, ad-free, for just $5/month! Want more? Upgrade to the $8/month premium tier and get everything above plus The Wayback a day early, ad-free, censor-free, and exclusive bonus content you won’t find anywhere else! http://patreon.com/RyanSickler 📧What’s your story?? Submit at [e-mail] 👕Get Your Merch👕 http://www.bonfire.com/store/ryansickler/ 🎧 Listen to my Podcasts 🎧 The HoneyDew - http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-honeydew-with-ryan-sickler/id527446250 The Wayback - http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-wayback-with-ryan-sickler/id1721601479 Patreon - http://www.patreon.com/ryansickler 📣 Follow Me📣 ▪ Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/ryansickler/ ▪ TikTok: http://www.tiktok.com/@ryan.sickler ▪ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/RyanSicklerOfficial 🕸️ryansickler.com/ 🍈thehoneydewpodcast.com/ 🦀Subscribe to The CrabFeast Podcast🦀 http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-crabfeast-with-ryan-sickler-and-jay-larson/id1452403187 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Spokane, Washington. I'll see you guys April 3rd and 4th. Buffalo, New York, I'm headed your way. I'll see you guys Friday, April 24th, and Saturday, April 25th. Get your tickets now at Ryan Sickler.com. The Honeydew with Ryan Sickler. Welcome back to the honeydew, y'all. We're over here doing it in the Nightpan Studios. I'm Ryan Sickler. Ryan Sickler. On all your social media. And I'm starting to set up. episode like I start them all by saying thank you, man. Thank you for supporting this show. All these years now, I, we start this in 2019. That's wild. Man, we're getting old fast, right on camera too. Thank you for supporting anything I do. And if you got to have more, man, you've got to have the Patreon. It's the honeydew with you all. It is this show with you all.

And it's the wildest show on Patreon. It's five bucks a month. You're getting audio. You're getting video. It's hundreds of episodes at this point in the back. catalog. You get the honeydew a day early. You get it ad-free. And there's another tier there for eight bucks where you're getting the way back a day early ad-free and exclusive content there that you're not getting anywhere else. All right. That is the biz. You guys know what we do here. We highlight the low lights. I always say that these are the stories behind the storytellers. I am very excited to have this guest back on the honeydew. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Becchio. Welcome back to the Honeydew. Hey, Ryan, thanks for having me.

You're good energy, brother. I appreciate it, man. Thank you for being here. Before we get into what we're going to talk about today right there, promote it all. At Comic Mike V on all social media platforms. Please give me a follow. I have a long Italian last name that's hurt my career. But you can follow me at Comic Mike V. I simplified it to at Comic Mike V. So please give me a follow. And I have a new YouTube special on the Nate Land YouTube page called Low Income White. Please go watch it. I'm very proud of it. I worked very hard on it. for years. So please go watch it. Nate Bargatsi, my friend was nice enough to give me a special two specials now. This is the second special on his YouTube page. So please go check it out. It's called Low Income White and give me a follow on all the socials at Comic Mike V. I love seeing Nate do that. We've had Dusty in here. Well, Dusty's on Netflix. Dusty's on Netflix. We've had Aaron Weber in here. You. Somebody else, I feel like, is anybody else on that?

Greg. We've had Greg in here too. Of course. Yep, yep, yeah. Good for all you guys. Yeah, go watch all their specials. I know we see, we chatted about what we were. But you could you watch mine first? Watch Mike's first. Watch Mike first. And then watch everybody else. Low income white, Mike Veckeye. Low income white and it's on YouTube for free, which is perfect for low income whites. The attractive. And then go watch the other people.

Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about what we were going to talk about, but low income white. Talk to me about that. I was at a Waffle House for the first time. time two years ago in Mississippi. Never been to a Waffle House. Didn't really understand the concept of a Waffle House. Because you're from Jersey? No, no, no. I'm from Northeast Ohio originally, but then Florida, Philadelphia, places that are without Waffle Houses, basically, and are Waffle House free. And even Cracker Barrels, which is an upscale Waffle House. I've never been around that. So the Waffle Houses blew me away. It just blew me. It's like a scene from a movie. You in and there's a guy sitting at the counter and then there's a manager with too many keys on his

ring talking too loudly. He's like, hey, they'll let anybody in here, huh? It's like that, he makes that exact joke, almost on cue. It just, uh, it was hilarious and a charm, very charming. Like, I make fun of it in my set. Like, I'm kind of dressing it down and roasting it, but it's all out of love. Like, I think it's awesome. And I, when I am in a town and there's a Waffle House close, I make sure I go because I just want to sit in it. I'm also a diner guy. Like I'm living in Philly and lived in a – That's how I came up with the honeydew sitting in a diner and not eating the honeydew at

the table and then getting up and walking out and seeing honeydew on all the tables of the diner. And I'm like, oh my God, that's a perfectly good fruit. Intuition. Well, it's a high sugar. It's a high glyc. I don't want to get into the glycemic index of what your podcast is based on, but it's dangerous. It's dangerous as hell, man.

There's so much other The history of this pocket has ever said glycemic on here. It's hyperglycemic, man. It's a sugar. Just eat a cookie. Just eat a cookie if you're going to do that. No, but I just love diner culture

from living in Philly and in New York, you know, late night diners. Baltimore had a great diner called Greek diners. Oh, the Greeks are all over it. Greek diners in Baltimore were fucking, double T diner. All these Greek diners were the best. And they'd be open late.

That's the thing, too. We'd go, you'd go on a Friday night after school. We would drive 30 minutes to go to this diner, and the city and the county would come together at this one place off of Route 40 called the double T diner. And it was, you go in a one in the morning, fucking packed, packed out. People are in there because the food is also, it's not just, you know, sitting under heat lamps all night. They're making this shit fresh. The Greeks know how to do it, man.

The Greeks bring it. But Baltimore. I was just there. And it's interesting city. Where'd you go? I was at an arena with Nate. Oh, you did. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you know what? My friend, what's up? Kathy? She hit me up. I guess Nate threw out the... What's up, Kathy? She came to see you guys. She went to see...

Well, I guess Nate threw out the first pitch like I did. Yes. And then when hustle right over, we still call it the Civic Center. But yeah. This was my joke. It's in Baltimore, which I love the people and the city now. I said that you guys built an arena with no sports team. So that's, I love the confidence of Baltimore.

You built the arena with those sports team. You know what's funny about that now that you say that? I guess the Baltimore Bullets played there years ago before they moved to D.C. Yeah. But I went there as a kid growing up. And even Stavi, I'll tell you, it was never a pro team. It was a professional, but it was indoor soccer, the Baltimore Blast, A HL hockey.

It was the skipjacks who were the farm team originally for the penguins. And then the fucking capitals. Concerts, always concerts in there like you guys showing up. But never since the bullets left, never a pro team. You're 100% right. Never a pro team. So I said to them on stage, I said if you build it, they will come. But they haven't come.

Have they, Baltimore? They haven't come because I use a lot of sarcasm. And I said, I'm sure when crime becomes a sport, you guys are going to be on the short list for a team. And it's like, it popped. It was a great thing. And then somebody the next day, classic 2025 internet, wrote this long diatribe about how crime has actually gone down in the city. And that if I would have done my research, I would have known that instead of going for the lowest hanging fruit I possibly could. Because I said, when you're, when you're.

I'm sorry. You know what happened? He goes, I said after the crime, please have her edit this out. I will, yeah. When I said the crime thing, I said, I tagged it with shooty, shooty, stabby, stabby.

I started saying shooty, shudy, stabby, and then this person wrote this big thing, long thing. And I said, I'm sorry, I baby talked to your crime statistics. That's great. All right. So. But people can, we know that, uh, comedy in this day and age, it's like you're going to get a criticism no matter what you say.

Well, because there's a voice to it. That person used to just have to go, you know what, the worst part about it is that person used to just tell people in their surroundings. Yes. That. Yeah. You know, this guy last night, everybody's so sick of Kathy or whatever over here. Right. So fucking sick of Bill over here.

Like, shut the fuck up. Now Bill's got a voice. Bill can go out there and go right to the guy and said, shoot, you just that have it. Little baby talk, never heard anybody. Low white income. Low income white. Excuse me.

That's the somebody to mess up the words like that. Is it plural? Low income whites? It's called low income white. Okay. Because I myself am a low income white. That's what I'm getting at here. You growing up, talk to me about that.

What do you mean? I grew up mostly middle class. But, you know, middle class. Oh, you downgraded as you got into adulthood. I went, I actually did. We're supposed to be doing better than our parents. I'm actually doing worse. So I've gone from middle class to low-income white.

That's what I'm doing. Isn't that great? That's where we're headed in this country. You didn't start going and keep it going to go like that. I'm praying for AI to take over. Are you kidding me? I want a robot boss. I just don't think it'll be an actual robot like a person.

I just think I'll, I'll vape first thing in the morning and I'll know what I have to do for the entire day. It's like itinerary will get downloaded through vaping. That's an interesting. That's a good one. I just think we're doing AI wrong. I don't want AI to do my creative stuff. I want AI to do the laundry, make beds, do dishes. That's what I want AI doing.

What about these driverless cars? They're everywhere out here. Really? It freaks me out to see them still. I'm in New York. Oh, you're going to see 20 them on your way. Yeah? Yeah, you're going to fit Simmons next.

You're going to see 20 them on your way. Wow. They're everywhere. And now they have vans. It's wild. They're vans. Waymo vans. They're like these baby blue vans big enough for like, you know, more than four people.

I guess. Man, I haven't been in one. My daughter's been in one. She went in one with her mom and her brother. They all took one. But I don't know. And then I think about it too. Like, well, nobody's getting raped in these things.

No one's getting assaulted in these things. Right. Murdered. Yeah. And robbed. No one. But what are we going to do with the, uh, Workforce now.

Is it that, are we going to get universal basic income? Is that what it's called? Universal basic income for everyone? I don't know. Is that a thing somewhere? Well, when the machines take over, all of us are going to be out of work. So I guess everybody will get an allotted income. You know what's going to happen?

The machines are going to tell us. That's what the fuck's going to happen. It doesn't matter what we think. If they take over, it's going to be like, here's what we think. And that's what it's going to be, bro. They're machines. Yeah. And they're armed. Their hands are guns.

This is the shit you think about. I think so. But I just think that we're all out of work. Listen, I have a solution for this. And it starts with, I have some good cemetery ideas. You go to a cemetery to visit a loved one, right? What you do is you have a QR code on the tombstone and you do it. And then it's a short documentary about each person.

So you go to visit your father, but he's next to this guy. And you're like, I wonder how he lived. And you QR code it. And we all just do documentaries on each other, alive. and, you know, we're all doing it on anybody alive and any issue that's happening now. So we might as well do documentaries on on cemeteries. You walk in, it's like a museum. It's an outdoor museum now.

It's not just, and then also. I'm stunned. Food trucks. Food trucks at cemeteries. You go visit your loved one. You go to get a sausage and peppers. Listen, I'm all for. I'm all for you want to.

And then. My dad's been dead since I was 16. I can't tell you many times I've been to that. I would have loved to been there and chill just going over and grabbed a slice or a fucking burger or something. And then the last one. This is my last one, which is the least popular. No, wait. Let's hold on.

It's the last one. It ties it all together. All right. Okay. Go ahead. Cemetery with every ethnicity is segregated. So the food truck corresponds. You sausage and peppers is in the Italian section.

You know, cassidias is in the Mexican section. You know, the Irish section has beer. It's all, it's like a festival now. And so segregated cemeteries. Our motto is you don't have to be next to those people anymore. Dude, let's tile it back to the QR codes on every fucking headstone. You're learning. Or you're eating, you know, night deposit box or whatever.

Here's the other thing. You get to be whoever the fuck you want in the afterlife. Yes. If you, God, we used to roll in the cemeteries as kids at night in Baltimore City. Yeah. Like six of us or whatever. Wow. a huddle together.

We'd be scared to death. But we'd love it because, you know, on the East Coast, you're seeing tombstones from like 1785 and shit. You're like, oh, my God. And at some point in 2246, they're going to be like, that fucking things from 2025, QR code that. And then boom or whatever it'll be then. You might just be a hologram that pops up at that fucking.

Right, right. That's true. You could tell the story however you want to tell that story. Yeah. And it's good to have honest. It's like he was a hard worker, but bit of a temper, bad temper. This guy had a bad temper. He flopped it.

Like, make it an honest doc because it's like we all have, and you do it on, you do it in your podcast. It's like we all have our flaws. It's like the flaws are the things that are interesting. You know what I mean? Have to look at somebody and be, this has three families in two different towns. Like, God damn, man. That's all. That guy was living in life.

Listen, you could spend hours in there. And then the food trucks and all that, yeah. It's a festival every day. We could stop it with these parades. The parades are jamming up the streets in New York. It's like every parade. And I respect all groups and everything. But it's like, let's just do it at a cemetery.

You're celebrating the dead, like the Dio de la, how you say, Dio de la Smueritos. Oh, yeah. Day of the Dead, you know, how they go to the, they go celebrate. They're not, you're not just bawling. And then you're not just there to see your relative. You're like, who the fuck are these? Because I often wonder.

that my dad's marker. There's my dad, my grandfather, my grandmother, all buried right there in that plot. But there's thousands of people right here in eyesight. Who the fuck's buried next to my dad? Oh my God. Who's this little lady, Linda, whatever?

Who's this guy, Jerry? What's Jerry all about? Right. Dude, I fucking love it. And it's like, I'm all fired off the guy. But you're like learning about how to live a better life. From the mistakes and the achievements of these other people, stand on their shoulders.

That's fucking. great. Cemetery ideas. No one thinks about it. You need to fucking get on that now. I need to buy a cemetery. You need to patent some kind of QR code for this for headstone. Documentary.

I got to get a cemetery on board with it. And there are the food trucks pulling up. I mean, look, I hear you on the segregated. That's fine. I'm probably going to grab a, I'll probably grab a sausage peppers, but I'm probably going to walk over and grab a taco. You're allowed in other sections? And then I'm going to go over there and learn.

And I'm going to have my Spanish voice. voice recorder on it so I can learn in that language when I hit over there. Learn the language. Dude, that's a fucking great idea, bro. It's a great one. Did you, going back to childhood when you were middle class before shit went downhill for you? Did you deal with a lot of death? No.

Growing up, no. No? Just the normal grandparents or whatever. But I got to say about the middle class, it's like the middle class back in the 80s and 90s, like I don't have a TV in my room. I had a room with my brother. It's like... You did or did not have a TV? Did not have a TV in my room.

What year? How old are you? I'd say the 80s, the mid-80s. How old are you now? 52. Okay, we're the same age. I know exactly what we were talking about. So the 80s and the early 90s.

I went to college in the early 90s, you know. But my point is that if you look by today's standards, I was poor. By today's standards. Like, I didn't have any video. You didn't have a phone. house phone shared a bathroom with brother and sister

shared a room with brother no TV in the room new clothes at Marshalls and maybe J.C. Pennies not Kmart because everybody was like oh you got your clothes from Kmart you get ripped on if you went to Kmart but we went just the tier above Kmart

which is pennies which was pennies and marshals came in and saved the day there but it's like my point is that's what I tell my daughter now. I'm like, you don't understand. Like, we went to Kmart. We had McGregers. Yeah. You get the fucking shit kicked out if you wore it. It had a shoe called Olympia. You get your shoe. You get the shit kicked out of you if you fucking wore those. My mom made our

jams. We didn't get real jams. My mom went to Joy at Fab. It was like, I'll make you jams. And you know what? That's awesome, by the way. No, it's not. No? By the way. I love your mom's ingenuity. You know, we got McDonald's at home. We had jams at home, too. I mean, these things were see through, like, so thin, they ripped in the crotch. Like, it was not all to save a buck. But Tony Hawk and shit like that's in Target. You know what I mean? Like today, there is no, there's cool shit across all.

Right, right, right. There's Nike in Target, under armor in Target. You didn't have that shit in fucking Kmart back then. You had Wilson, maybe a Wilson thing there. What the fuck you're wearing that for? Yeah, the brands were rough. Yeah. The brands would get you beat up.

But Kmart and then so we buy clothes once a year from like a marshals or a pennies. And then that was it. That was it, man. Once a year. Once a year. You had winter clothes and your summer clothes. I don't know if you felt this way about your parents. It's like we were struggling financially.

So it's like I didn't get my balls big enough to be like, I need the latest Jordans. Like, are you kidding? I haven't watched my mom not buy clothes for 10 years. Yeah, yeah. Where do I get my blood up to go? Yeah. I want Jordans now. You pay, you pay for them.

It's like they don't have any money. I can feel it, you know? So it's just what I'm saying. Now, older, brother, younger sister. Okay, so there was three of us. Yeah. And the meals too. It's like, and then my father also was very much like appreciate everything.

But of course, we're Italian. So it came from the negative place where it's like, what do you think this is a hotel? You think this roof over your head? Everything is free. You think this is a free lunch? It's not a free lunch. People are sacrificing for you. you appreciate it.

You know, he could have just said it like, hey, let's have some gratitude. He went the way where it's like, hey, appreciate it. I'm listening to you saying that. And I'm like, what's matter of that? It's my whole fat. It's my whole entire Italian valley, everything, all the way down to who's getting the fucking vegetables and shit. I'm like, all right, man, goddamn.

And that's a big thing with weight, with weight gain too. I struggle with weight. I'm doing fasting now, but the whole eat everything on your plate was a thing. I was a thing, and that was a thing they believed in, where it's like, if it's on your plate, you eat it, there's people starving, you appreciate your food. It's like right in your grill. Yes. And then remember, they would have the commercials with the flies all over the kids. And you're like, man, my parents are right.

Africa or they would use India. And then I realized that Indian people, I have a joke about it. It's like Indian people actually have their own food. It's called Indian food. We miss that. How do we miss that? It's just too hot to eat. So that's a point.

That's a good point, too. was always eat everything on your plate. If you don't. When West Jet first took flight in 1996, the vibes were a bit different. People thought denim on denim was peak fashion. Inline skates were everywhere, and two out of three women rocked, the Rachel.

While those things stayed in the 90s, one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when WestJet welcomes you on board. Here's to Westjetting since 96. Travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at westjet.com slash 30 years. You can get up. This is what you're eating for breakfast.

Yeah. This is what you're going to finish this meal. Like, fuck. Yeah, you're not getting up. No. You're not getting up unless you, if you took it, you got to eat it. So there was that kind of a. And then now as an adult you think back is like, oh, well, they were children to people

who were in the Great Depression. Yes. You know what I mean? Yes. And every fucking morsel matter. Yeah. You know, it makes sense as you go. Now you're right.

Yeah. Kids are like, I need to fucking, whatever the latest trend is. Yeah. Yeah. But my parents weren't boomers. They were like, I don't know about your parents. They were before. They were the, I guess, World War II babies.

Yeah, they're World War II babies. Yeah, for sure. So, but my point is, like, being raised like that versus today, if you were raised like that today, that would be considered poverty. Yeah, we had. I think, even though I was in an middle class. So middle school and up to 10th grade before my dad dies, we're single, he's a single dad, three boys, one house, no central air. I share a room with my twin brother. My younger brother has his own room.

My dad's got his room. There's three bedrooms. One bathroom, one toilet. Two kids are the same age going through puberty and everything. He's, you know, working nonstop. So there's always somebody in the bathroom. We've got a little gravel driveway. No phone in our bedroom.

No TV in our bedroom. We had a boom box. You know what I mean? Right. Old school boombox. Like that was the only entertainment we had in the room. Nintendo, we finally got one. That shit's in the living room on the one TV in the whole fucking house.

Right. You know? Right. We did have two phones. We had one in the kitchen on the wall. And then we would have one of those cheap ones. Remember when Time magazine would you buy it and they give you a phone? It was just this plastic piece of shit.

And it didn't even have a base. You just set it on a table and the little button would click in. I think I do remember that. That was a weird, odd. almost non-memorable thing, but I think if you would get a description, they would, yes. It didn't even have a base. It just had a button that clicked when you set it.

The Time magazine phone. We're going to look it up on the way back. But yeah, and you're right. We had, that was, we would be poor. If you came to our house, then, if you walk back in, you'd be like, oh, my God, you guys had it so hard. Right. And it didn't feel that way.

Now, it didn't feel that way at all. Because in the context of that, it's, it, you use middle class because of the times. But now it's like everybody has all these advanced accessories and, and people can watch TV on their phone and do all this stuff. So it's like, I work off my phone. I do it all the time. I use my phone more for work and everything these days than a laptop or anything. Right. I really have.

And I'm not even the guy. I was the guy. I was like, nobody's ever going to be fucking listening to. shit and watching stuff on their phone. Now, in my defense, these aren't phones anymore. No. They're computers. The fact that it has a phone in it is fair enough to still call it a phone. Right. That ain't a fucking phone. No, it's not. And no one's talking to each other anymore. Everybody's texting. Everybody's tweeting. Everybody's doing video, you know, and if you are, your FaceTiming, which is kind of good. Like, I'm on the road. It's like FaceTiming is great.

You know what I mean? But yeah, the technological advances. I'm like, and then everybody's like, where's it going to go? It's like, I thought virtual reality was going to be a thing. But I don't know, actually. I'm very bad at predicting. I didn't think this was possible. Computers were too confusing for me. So I didn't even until it's like easy enough to where you just hit a button and it goes

to wherever, that's the kind of person. I wait for it to get to that. And then I do. It's like, you got to download the programs and go to this and do that. It's like, I can't do that. I was never a video game guy. guys in college, even during my time, would play video game. They would be addicted to video games.

I'm like, I'm not about any of that. So when do you realize you're going from middle class to lower income white? I moved to New York. You would get a wake-up call. You're like, oh, you don't have any money. You're going to live with roommates for years and years, Philadelphia. Okay, so Philly's where your family was at the last time? It's kind of a convoluted story, but we have time.

Yeah. And I was born in Youngstown, Ohio, and then we moved to Boca Raton, Florida, both great places in their own right. I graduated from high school in Boca Raton, Florida. I go to Penn State University. I wrestle for one year, which is the hardest thing. I mean, it was incredibly difficult,

but I'm glad I did it. I glad I got that experience. I think we talked about that last time. Yes, wrestling at a place that big. And I meet a girl. We date for the rest of college. And then she's from Philadelphia. So I moved to Philadelphia.

She's a year ahead of me. And she goes to law school at Temple. And I moved to Philadelphia to be with her. So I start my career, my life in Philadelphia area, working with adjudicated kids because I have a criminal justice degree. And then we break up after four years there. And I'm distraught and destroyed. Can I ask you why?

She didn't want to be with me anymore, which is hard to accept because it felt like very, you never know what's going on in the other person's head, but it felt very good for five and a half years in the last six months. She just checked out from my perspective. It's a long relationship. It's a long one. And you're living together. Living together.

Yeah. Engaged. Oh, you're engaged too. Oh, bro. So she's like checked out, didn't want to be with me anymore. And then I was like, you know, obviously very hurt by the. that. So, but in, I'm sorry people were going to yell me for interrupting. Are you doing comedy also at this point in Philly? No, but I'm flirting with it. Okay. Okay. Because that's like something is like,

I'd like to try that. I think I took a stand-up comedy class and I did a performance with your, with your class. I did that while we were together. And how old are you at this point now? 26, 27. And then, and then the big breakup happens. And in my, you know, I feel like when two people break up, you're responsible for what you do in their relationship, how you treat the other person. You're responsible for that, up to that point. Once it's over, that's no longer that person's fault. It's your responsibility to figure out how to get yourself right or become a better person from it. And, you know, agreed. We all have, you know, from perspective from now, this kind of perspective looking back, you're going to get it in life one way or another. Someone's going to break your

heart, a best friend is going to betray you. You're going to lose in business. You might go bankrupt. Family will betray you. Family. It's life, dude. It's life. It's going to happen. So I just didn't have that perspective back then. I felt singled out. And I felt like, why is this happening to me? Bitter and angry? And instead of like going and getting help, which is what I should have done, I bit down and just like, I'll just wrestling practice this and deal with it myself and gut it out. and get through it. It's like that's necessary for some things in life, but not something like that. You have to admit like, hey, I'm, I'm hurt and I need to get help. And in retrospect, that's what I should have done. It would have helped my healing process. It would have helped me to become a better

person faster. I eventually got there, but it took a lot longer going the hard way than if I would have just opened myself up to like going to therapy and stop drinking and like confront it dead on every day. Did you even know, you know what I'm saying? A lot of times people are just ignorant to the fact that, hey, maybe therapy is good for me and maybe it was never something that, you know, you were introduced to in your family or whatever, or were you just like the old school my cheese and I was like, fuck that, I'm not going to therapy. Like did you know, you see what I'm saying? Like did you ever think of it's a good point. It's a good point because compassion to myself, my former self, compassion to my former self. It wasn't in the zeitgeist the way that it

is now. It was a late 90s. So it wasn't, it wasn't talked about with the reverence and that it is now. It was, keep your head down and you move forward. Yeah, you keep your head down, you suck it up and bite down. This happens all the time. It's like, but it felt very specific to me, again, because I didn't have the perspective. And then it, it, it made it a lot harder to overcome that. But it was, that's not, that's not on her. Right. That's on me. You know what I mean? Yeah. So what made you, what happened? What happened where you finally let yourself say, man, I'm going to go talk to somebody. Like, what made you shift in that? Well, it didn't happen all at once. I went through a series of relationships that were long-term that ended in breakups because I didn't fix. I didn't, it's weird that life just keeps giving you

the lessons if you don't address it. If you don't fix it, they'll just keep giving you the same thing. So I went through a series of breakups because I wasn't in the right mental. I was, space to make an actual functional relationship work. So, and after, and I loved each person that I was with, genuinely loved them. So it was, whether I broke up with them or they broke up with me, I was devastated every single time and then had to pick my life back up, you know, it's all in perspective. I had to pick my life back up each time and like figure out. It's like, okay.

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This something went wrong here, and it's very, it's an easy out for anybody to be like, it's all their fault. They have too much baggage. They do this too much. They're not right for me. They're not the right person for me. It's like I stopped thinking that way after a couple of those to be like, okay, dude, like, you might be at fault for a lot of this. So how can you be a better person?

And then when you're a better person, then you expect them to be a better person. But don't just load up and put it all on them. You've got some work to do on your, we all walk around thinking that, oh, I'm a, I'm a great. It's like, we don't want to think we're great people. But if you really break it down, it's like, all right, like, what are the things that you could have done better and there's a lot of them so it's like once you sit and confront that a little bit and and then you start and you go through enough of those catastrophic heartbreaks you you get better at like putting yourself back together and you get I got a little better from each one as as

labor intensive as that sounds it's like I got a little bit better from each one one one girl broke up up with that I started meditating because it's just out of pain I want to be out of this pain how can I do it's like, well, start meditating. And then after another, I started like hot yoga. After the other, I started like a breathing practice, cold water showers and like like, and all of these things, people make fun of me sometimes in comedy for them. But all of these things are to like, so that you wake up feeling the best that you can feel and you could have a good in your mindset is. And also so you're not snapping and getting on a city bus and killing a bunch of motherfucking people. I'm like, let Vecke Young go breathe over there, my lover, whatever. Whatever.

works for that motherfucker. Let him go over there, meditate and breathe. God damn it. He needs five minutes. No, people make fun of it. It's like, what do you try to? It's like, no, no, no, I'm just trying to feel good every single day. So that could be the best version of myself.

As corny as that sounds, but it's like, you want to be the best version of yourself every day. So and when I get tired, like I could feel it. I could feel like, okay, I got to catch myself. And my wife is good for that too. She's like, like last night, a long flight, got up at five in the morning. It was late. And now we're talking. And she's like, you're just in a.

I bet you're just tired. You're just tired. Get some sleep. Your perspective will be better tomorrow. And she's, she's right. And that's the way it goes. But each breakup, I got a little bit better, a little bit better, a little bit better. And the pandemic was a big thing for me because it's like we didn't have stand up. So it's like you just had to sit with yourself and reflect a little bit. And then it became a thing where it's like, do I need to really be drinking alcohol? Like some people can drink and they're using it as a social thing. That's not the way I was doing it. I was binge, it was an alcoholic, but I was binge drinking. Give me an example what that was for you.

I look forward to like, I'm going to go do shows this weekend. I'm just going to get hammered after the shows. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I'll get hammered after the shows or I'm going to do spots tonight. And afterwards, I'm going to hang out and meet up with friends. And it's fun, fun to drink. So I would just tell myself, it's like, everybody does it, man.

You're just having a good time. But it's like, that's not really what was happening. You know, you're not, you could be dishonest with yourself. It's pretty easy to be dishonest with yourself. You know what I mean? And it's like I started really looking at it. It's like, is that really what's happening? And the pandemic gave you the time to reflect me.

Like, is that what's, it's like, it's not true. It's not true. I'm, other people are drinking for their own reasons. I'm drinking so that I calm my anxiety and I can feel fun and comfortable. That's why I'm drinking. It's like, oh, so is it possible to feel that way without drinking? Why can't I feel that way?

that way normally. You start like getting curious about your flaws. And it's like maybe I can. It's not serving me in any way. I'm getting older. I have to go to the bathroom all the time. Hangovers aren't. I'll recover like a, oh man. They are brutal. Can't do anything the next day. So it's it's like, well, maybe eliminate that. Just eliminate it and see how it goes. Like my life immediately got better. The clarity of the way I was seeing things. And I'm like, I'm saying this. Like, I know people who drink and they don't drink the way that I was drinking. Right. So they're doing it for different reasons and they have a different.

I'm not saying quit drinking. It's just like I needed to do it. And then like clarity as far as like eating, like I realize that I'm a, I will eat just to feel better about myself, you know, called being Italian. I have the most unhealthy relationship with food. If I'm bored, I want to eat. If I'm excited, let's celebrate. Let's eat. Oh, man, Ravens lost today.

Let's order a pizza. You know what I mean? It's always food related. I'm the same way, Italian. I grew up Italian. And I said before, excuse me, I didn't realize, like my mom's whole side's Italian, my dad's whole side's Italian. The only person that's sickler is my father's father.

He's like European mutt or whatever. But my grandmom is de Memo on my dad's side. And then we've got DeVito and all these other. everybody's kombadi everybody's in there yeah and so no matter where i went for thanksgiving or christmas or whatever there's the standard turkey ham whatever but there's tons of italian food yeah baked ziti there's stuffed shells lasagna it's always there and now we're going to um this side of the family right right there it is go to the side now we're going to see my grandmother sister there fucking is so i start dating a girl in high school and when i go to their house i'm like

where's the fucking like lasagna and stuff? She's like, what are you talking about? And that was the day it dawned on me like, oh, our whole family's Italian. Yeah. This shit doesn't happen. No, no, it doesn't happen. And people don't have that relationship with food, which is good for them and bad. It seems great for us, but it's not.

You know, it's the whole table's covered. Yes. You don't get a plate. Right. Someone didn't fix you a plate. It is go. And it's then it's in the fridge all fucking night where you're walking up in the middle. in the middle of the night and just,

oh, man. Yeah. I recently, I don't know, I just had this epiphany. I was in the grocery store. You know Elio's Pizza? Some people say Elios. I don't know, whatever. But my grandma used to have that.

My grandma had an old freezer. She called her a frigidaire. It was like a GE, and it had the handle on the door here that opened. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's white. And she would keep,

and she had the old ice cube was the metal ones, you know, or you get to crack it and shit. Like not the plastic, these metal ones, like they had a thing in it. I love it, yeah.

And she would have LEO's pizza. And she'd have this toaster oven. And I would go down at midnight when she was sleeping. I'd be like 10 or 11. I'd just put them in there. And I mean, I'd house the whole box. I'd house the whole box.

And nothing was better. Yeah. I met my grandmoms. This lady fucking loves me. This is the shit. I go visit a friend. I go to the grocery. store and they got the fucking eleos pizza in there like vicky i'm getting teared up now i stood at that

friezer i was a grown-ass fucking man i just started crying she's like what's the matter with you i was like i don't know i just got transported to my grandma's kitchen and i was like i haven't been love like that oh look yeah yeah food bro food yeah not talking about the hugs right i was talking about the feeling in that fucking house of love and just the middle of the night it's quiet nobody else is around and I'm just eating pizza at my grandma's. Oh, bro. Super unhealthy relationship. Let's go eat it after this. That's the best. That's the best, man. But that's what it is. And it's like, and it's like the food laid out on the table. It's like it's just not going anywhere. And it's like it's always there. So it's like you'll digest a little bit. And you're like,

I should really stop eating. But you'll go back for more just because the taste of it. Because the taste of it. And I'm going to put stuffing and turkey and everything in the little biscuit and make it a fucking sam. What you're out of all. So great. All right. Let me transition into this question then here. So you go do all this work on yourself. You mention wife.

I'm still doing it. You still doing it's an ongoing process. That's 100% right. And I get caught up too. I was tired and I was just negative. And my wife was like, hey, you're just tired. So sometimes I fall into a hole too. You know, it's nice.

Do you have somebody to understand you and go, hey, this isn't who you are. You're just tired. Yeah. So tell me, how do you meet her? How do you become healthy enough to have that relationship? But also, how do you trust enough after you've been hurt coming out of an engagement and everything? Like, when do you say, man, this lady, I think I'm good. Yeah. This is good. Yeah. And we can grow together. Right, right. You know, because ultimately, you know, when you really do love somebody, you don't want anybody else. You just want the best versions of them and yourself to get, you know, as you grow older. It's a strange story because we met at a comedy club years ago. She is from Indiana, so she graduated from college and came right here from Indiana.

I was 28 when I moved. And so I met her at a comedy club, and then I kind of knew her in the scene for years, and I always thought that she was really attractive. I was like, I remember the first time I saw her. I was like, I tell her this all the time, but I'm like, she struck me with how beautiful she was. I'm like, she's really beautiful. It struck me. But we were just like friends, but more like acquaintances.

And we would see each other in different circles, but not that often. So her friend one night was, I was talking to her friend. Her friend was her roommate. And she said she happened to mention that she had just gotten out of a relationship and she was single. And I was single at the time. So I said, can you please put a word in for me with her? and see if she's maybe receptive to going out with me. And she said, I will.

And she came back the next day and she said, she's going to try to work it out with her boyfriend. I'm like, ah, all right. Well, thank you. You know, so I just went on. So it wasn't a no. It wasn't a no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it was just kind of like, yeah, she's going to work it out with her boyfriend. And we didn't get into like, well, is she attracted to me? When she said that, it was kind of a rap. So I just figured at that point, it'll just be a friendship or whatever. And then it comes back around again and we're both single,

but I'd stop thinking about it in terms of that because I figured, oh, she's just with somebody. So she asked me to do her show. She has a show that she's producing. She asked me to do her show. I'd go do it and she was like, well, hang out afterwards.

I said, yeah, yeah, okay. But I had another spot or I had to meet up with soda or something, Dan Soder, and who was my roommate at the time. So I just blew it off. I didn't think anything of it. And she messaged me over social media. She was like, you didn't hang out?

And I was like, no, no, no. I had another spot or something, but I'll catch you next time, just thinking of it as a friendship. And so months past, we both end up at Montreal, a comedy festival, her for new faces, and I'm just doing some shows there.

and a friend of hers tells me like she is interested in you. So it blew kind of took me off guard because I was like, I just thought of it as a friendship now, you know. So I approach her and I'm talking to her, but she's very like, how do I say it? She's very like, it's very hard to cross from the friend zone into a romantic piece because she's just very like,

what's the word I'm looking for? It's not, she's not cold, she's warm, but it's like, you would have to say something very distinct to move it. You would have to be, there's no flirting your way into moving it into a romantic phase. It's, you would have to say something in order to see if it's open to move

to a romantic phase. So we're there, we're drinking, and I'm trying to, finally, I just say, look, I'm interested in you more than friends. And it was all the Me Too stuff was going on then. I mean, still going about it's like the beginning of it. So I said, so it's still going on. It's still going on. It's a good movement. But at the beginning of it, it was like, you know, it was like, it hit very hard. So I was like, I'm interested in you. like more than friends. And I'm drunk at this point.

I said, if you're not, if you're interested in me, cool. I think you should go out with me. But if you're not interested in me, that's okay. I'm putting it out there because I think you're very pretty. I want to go out with you. I want to go out with you and blah, blah, blah. But if you don't want that, then I could take a loss also. And she said, why don't you just, I was,

and it was coming out stomach because I was. was drinking and stuff. So she, uh, she just like, just take my number. So I took her number. And then I, I saw her the next day. And because I was, I was drunk when I was telling her this. And I saw her the next day. And I, and I was just very like, hey, how are you? And I just, it was, I just want to let her know, because a lot of guys will do this thing. Well, they'll hit on a woman and the woman goes, yeah, it's not for me. And then they go, well, you're a bitch. It's like, you can't do that, dude. It's like you can put it out there and you can, you know, be charming and whatever and try to get her to like it. But if she says no, then you got, then you got to go, it's like,

it's okay. It's okay. So I wanted her to feel comfortable like, and not even because of the Me Too movement, just because of that's who I am. Or it's I wanted to feel comfortable with. Also, your co-workers in a sense. Or you're going to be seeing each other. Why are you going to make things uncomfortable for either of you? Yeah, fuck that. So I wanted to make it known to her. It's like, look, if you're not feeling it, just. just tell me no. And I'm, but I would do the thing where it's like,

but I think you're making a mistake, you know, I think you would like me if we hung out. And, and, but I want you to feel comfortable if like, if you're not into it, just tell me no.

And then we could just be friends. And that put her, I think, a little bit at ease. And then, uh, we went on a date and then things organically just happened from there. But,

um, like the pan, we were together during the pandemic and all of the stuff. And like, it wasn't the way that I thought it was going to be. It's like, I thought I would be a fully formed healthy person and she would be a fully formed healthy person. And we'd come together and it would just be like not smooth sailing, but it would be like we'd have a path and everything.

It's like that's not the way it happened. It was like I was still kind of a broken, messed up guy. And then she had her issues on her end. And it's like, and we got together and it's like get to know each other and have like arguments and not understanding each other and like and have this disconnect and then figuring it out and then talking. about it and like, okay, what can we do to make it better so that the next time this happens, you can feel like you're heard and listen to. And then I can feel like I'm getting my point across so I can feel valid. And it was a big thing for me, like one of my major issues where it's like when I'm with a partner and the partner like comes at me, I had a thing where it's like,

you only have two choices. You either have to, and this is probably from my childhood, where it's like you have to just eat it and take it and let the person roll over you or you have to fight for your life and scream at them because they're trying to take you down. It's like, well, neither is true. Maybe this person is triggered by something in their past, and that's why they're responding that way. So if you just ball up and you do nothing and let the person roll over you, then you're being a punk. And if you come at them real hard, it's like you've overreacted to the situation because that's not what's actually happening is only your perception of what's happening and you've been triggered. So there's a way to do it.

where it's like if they're not at their best and they come at you and they hurt you they said something that's hurt or offended you there's a way to be in the moment and and to take it over proactively but in a loving way it's there's a way to do it where it's like she'll say something that hurts me and i'll be like babe babe come on what do we let's not fight come on let's love each other let's love each other let's be loving what's the problem what can i do what can i and it's like that's a very proactive you're not you're not going backwards you're not on a ball just getting abused you're proactively doing it but you're not yelling and you're doing it with a lot of love and affection and i find that like you're asking for a result a positive outcome yeah yeah you're not saying

all right you want to fucking go yeah yeah you're asking for hey well i'm i'm telling you right i'm putting my sword down here what can i do right to love you right to be positive here and not fucking go at it right But just the fact that it's a proactive move makes me feel better. And then to take it over. Yeah. Forget the movement first. Getting to that thought in the middle of a battle when someone is angering you or triggering you for you not to go right to your old triggers. Right.

Just to get that step one. Like, hey, maybe while this person's yelling at me, I should just try to defuse this instead of throw gas right back on this. order, it's an interesting thing you said, in order to do that, you have to take your ego out of it. That's right. Because you're hurt. Your ego is not your ego. That's what I've learned. Your instinct is to respond back. It's all ego. People don't understand. When you say ego to some people, they think ego, you know, the egotistical. It gets, no, your ego is the one that's telling you to fucking do this. If you don't know what your ego is, when you're driving by yourself in a car and someone cut you off in traffic, that's your fucking ego right there talking to that motherfucker right there. You would. would never say that to their face if you were out in street. Right, right, right, right. Right. But I think that.

But you really do have to pull your ego out. I'm like, okay, this person's hurt. Right. They want me to hear what they're saying. Even if they're not communicating it properly, this person is wounded. Right. wants me to understand what they're saying. How can I best do that?

But in order for that to happen, you alluded to it, it's there has to be a separation between you and your thoughts. in order for that to happen. You have to not totally identify with what she's saying. If you totally identify with what she's saying, you're going to be hurt and you're just going to fire back. There has to be a thing where it's like you're separating yourself. You're almost looking at that situation from another perspective.

And you've separated yourself from what she's saying and from your own thoughts so that you could be like, what's the solution here? What's the right way to go? She doesn't mean this. so how can I overcome this and proactively? Proactively, it's a huge thing where it's like you're taking it over but in a loving way and then and then it makes her feel better. And the times that I've done that and I'm not able to do that all the time.

No, nobody bats a thousand. I mean, I talk to, I'm in therapy and I'm like, if I could do that all the time, it's such a great feeling. If you did it all time, your therapist would be out of a job, bro. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. The therapist thought he wanted you being perfect. Yeah. Hell no.

But it's such a great feeling when that, and she does the same thing to me. Like, I'll come at her in a certain way. She'd be like, she did it last night. Like she did it last night. I was tired. She's like, babe, you're tired. Come on, babe, come on. And then she'll like, talk.

And I'm like, you're right. You know what? You're right. But just the fact that she's coming at it in such a loving way, it drops my defenses. And I start actually listening. I'm like, yeah, you're right. It's like the same way I'll do with her when, when she's uptight. And like I said, the times that I've been able to do that as a man in a

relationship, it's always made me feel so much better afterwards. And then she feels better afterwards. But that's like my point is that doesn't come at the beginning. That comes as a process. Oh, yeah. That's work. Yeah. That's a work. And it's a process. Nobody shows up like that. No. I mean, maybe some people do. Maybe. Maybe in their 80s when you fucking, those old senior citizen couples, like, I think I got it together now. I think I got 10 more solid years in me. That's great. That's great. You always learn it like too late.

Hey, man, I'm 75, but I got 10 good years for you. But it's fantastic that I learned stuff like that. And as a result of those things, we've gotten closer and closer and closer. And then I was like, you know, she would bring up marriage. She's always wanted to get married and everything. And I was kind of like, I always kind of had the attitude. I don't need, I don't really, unless I'm having kids, I don't need to really get married. But you don't have kids. I don't have kids. But as we started getting

closer and closer, I was said, I want to marry this person. I do want to marry this person. We built something here and we could continue building on this. So we really changed my mind completely. And do you think that if you haven't done that work prior to this, that you missed this person? You know what I mean? I miss them. There goes that shit. And that's a crazy thing to say, too. If you don't work on yourself and this person shows up, I'm not in any position to do anything. Just fucking drop the ball. It's crazy to think of that. Like here's the opportunity you really been waiting for and could set you off the

rest of the way. Yeah. And if you're not fucking at least ready to take it. Yeah. Well, good for you for fucking figuring it out too. Because you could have been, you could have been thickheaded and our old selves and like, no, you ain't going to tell me shit. Yeah.

You can't do that. Because I also come from the Italian. Everything is also ballbuster. everything's a asshole you know what I mean it's just nonstop wanting to give back I also just I know we sound like old men but it is a softer generation when we grew up we had a guy that played soccer with us and the dude had the biggest buck teeth and all we did was shit on his teeth and he didn't cry you know he did he shit right back like oh yeah how about you have no parents motherfucker that's that's pretty solid right there that's pretty you know he didn't be who are making fun of my buck teeth

He just took those buck teeth and spit right back at you with that shit. We had one kid in our neighborhood. He just had like shit all over his teeth all the time. We just called him tartar. We called the kid tartar. We were like, hey, go get tartar, see if you want to play bait. You know what I mean? He'd be like, I don't got that shit no more, man.

We're like, listen, you might have brushed your teeth. But forever you're tartar, bro. You're tartar, dude. That's so funny. That's so funny. Just calling somebody tartar. Like, what the fuck do you keep calling me that for? But it's, it is a different.

It's so funny to do it too when you're like you because you love the person. They're your friend. Yeah. What's going on what's harder? What's not himself? Like, Tarter's upset, you know. Like, I know, man. Fucking Bucktooth Gurry over there.

It's like, yeah. It was nonstop. That stuff. Yeah. That's great. And so now you've been married for how long? We've been married for, um, March, April, May, June, five months. Oh, you're newly married.

Oh, bro. Yeah. But we've been together for, we've been together for a long time. But newly married. Well, what made you finally say, all right, I'll do the, because have you, I don't want to get too much in your biz. Is your wife young enough to have kids? Are you trying? Are you, or are we not trying?

No, we're going to, we're trying. We're trying. We're trying now. You're ready to be a dad at 52? 52, baby. How old's your wife? 39. I mean, it could take a couple years, too, you know.

We're trying. Are you already trying? We're trying, but, you know, I don't want to jinx it. It's one of those things where it's like, I think if it's, it's like, I think, if it's It's meant to be, it'll be meant to be. It's not. That all is. But the point of, I mean, it's been a long journey to get here.

So what made you say yes to marriage? Because I realized through the process of everything, the ways that we were growing together, I was like, I love this person. I started to see her for who she actually, you know, you just see a version of the person when you're dating for a while. And, you know, but once you get to know the person, you're like, oh, this person is, I love this person. I want to be with this person.

And then even if kids don't end up being in the plans, you're still comfortable being married. Yes. You mentioned I only thought marriage if I was going to have kids or a start of family. I changed the way I thought. I mean, I changed my mind completely. She changed my mind completely with who she. Once I realized who she was on the kind of person she was and how attracted to her that I am, I'm like, oh, this, I love this person. I mean, what's it feel like to see the person that you're with also putting the work in?

where you're not, you're not the problem. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the way that she approaches the business. She's like a hard worker, comes at it straight on. You like, doesn't try to manipulate, doesn't try to like whatever, like takes her wins and losses on the chin. Like, I love that, too, about her. And I love the way that she approaches the business.

And it's like also just from the breakups, it's like, well, you know, because I was dumped, dumped several times, but I had a hurtful break up, how do I guard against that? You know, it's vulnerable to love somebody. Totally. It's like, she could wake up tomorrow morning and be like, I don't want to be in this anymore. And then you're going to be just shredded the way that you were before. It's like, oh, so what's how I thought about this too? It's like, how do you safeguard against that kind of pain? Because I already went through it one time and then a bunch of other times. So how do you safeguard against it? And the conclusion that I've come to, it's like, which is why I do all the breathing. and cold showers and workout and eating right and stuff,

is like you make yourself the best version of yourself. So that- When or if. And you bring it, you bring the best version every day that you can when you're with that person because then they'll see it and it rubs off on them and then if that person decides to leave, you left everything on the, it's like you're playing the game.

It's like you left everything on the field, dude. So if you made yourself the best version of yourself and that person still leaves. If David Tyree squeezes that motherfucker down the ground, ain't nothing you can do about that, bro. You know what I'm saying? No, that's life. That's life. You did everything. Yeah.

It's perfect. Everything was right, man. But, hey, sometimes that is. If you bring it like that and then the person, like, you could put your head on the pillow at night and you go, ah, dude, I did everything I could. You know what I mean? That maybe, maybe they have a different direction if they're going in their life. Maybe it's not meant to be, but I did everything I could. So I can live with that.

Good for you, dude. Congratulations. Well, but it took me forever to figure that part. Like, all this stuff to figure in it out, like, people probably already know this stuff and they lived their life this way. Not me. I had to like, I figured it out gradually through falling over myself. And it took me a long time to figure a lot of this stuff out, which is why I'm 52

and it's my first marriage five. I'm not judging it is the way that it is. but it's like because of I've had to learn this stuff through experience. Two engagements, one marriage? Yes. Way to go, bro. Trying to be like you. I'm trying to be like you.

I got one engagement. No marriages. I'm looking for that second one of the marriage. Yeah, bro. Get on the horse. Thank you, man. Thank you for doing this. And congratulations to you.

Good luck on the marriage and the special right there. Promote it again one more time. Thank you guys. Thank you guys for watching. It's low-income white. It's on YouTube. And please, watch it. I work very hard on it. And it's it's I describe my style. I don't know if you do this,

but people know you. But it's understated. It's sarcastic and joke heavy. So if you like those things in your comedy, you'll like my special. I believe you'll like my special. It's a low income white, the Nateland YouTube page at Comic Mike V on all social media platforms. And your other one, your first one, promote that one too. My first one's called The Attractives. It's on the Nateland YouTube page. Give that a love. also. So thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you for doing this as always. Thanks, man. Ryan Sickler

on all your social media, Ryan Sickler.com. We'll talk to y'all next week.