The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - 380: Shua Mundy | The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler #380 | Full Episode

Episode Date: April 6, 2026

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And I am very excited to have this. guest with us here, ladies and gentlemen, first time on the honeydew, please welcome Shia Mundy. Welcome to the Honeydew Shua Monday. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, brother. Give you a little extra love, brother. Oh, that's love. Shua, please, before we get into what we're going to talk about, and I'll give you a proper, proper introduction to it right there, promote everything and anything you'd like.

Tell them who you are, what you're about. My name is Shua Monday. I catch child predators coast to coast, island to island across the United States. You can find me on Shua Monday on Instagram. That's like the main hub. You can find full videos on DAP 2K locals. It's like a rumble offshoot. Awesome for you being on Patreon.

They kicked me off. Did they? For this? Yeah, they kicked me off Patreon. And then you could go to dads against predators. com. We're launching a new website and it's going to be chock full of content, bad guys, anything you can think of.

There's going to be a map. You scroll your mouth. over and you can see a catch on your state, maybe even in your hometown. So look out for that. I'm excited to be here. Thank you for having me and looking forward to it. Dude, I've got a million questions for you. Hopefully I got a million answers.

Are you a father? Yeah, three kids. Yeah. Dad's against predators. I started the organization. All right. So we're dads sitting here. A lot of,

a lot of these people are parents out here. We got this whole Epstein thing going on now where they're literally talking. They're telling us right to our face. We're fucking your kids. We're eating them. We're doing whatever the fuck we. and you can't do shit about it. It blows me away.

Anybody that thinks there's Democrat and Republican anymore and not the Uber elite rich and no fucking rest of us is a fucking idiot. Eyes wise closed. Right in our face they're telling us. And they don't, oh, but don't look at that. Look at the Dow. Look at your 401K.

Here comes to aliens. Peanuts. Yeah. Oh, aliens are coming. Oh, we're shutting airports down. Anything to take our mind off of that. So let's get it. into you first, your background. Where are you from and who you are and why you started all this.

I'm from Fremont, Ohio, small town, 16,000 people. I think the only thing we got there is Rutherford B. Hayes and Charles Wilson. Only defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. So it's pretty cool. Go Blue. So grew up pretty normal. I had a rough childhood. I think we'll get into that or whatever. but small town something happened to my family and I watched like the police kind of like set a low bar when it comes to like charges that they put on the guy I watched them go through the judicial system and be comfortable telling us what happened yeah so not to put out their business but somebody in my family they were four years old was molested by somebody and their other side of their family like through a marriage and um

by a 19 year old. And this is usually also what they say is very often it's someone you know or someone within your network. Yeah, it was a cousin to them. So we go through a court process. I watch what it does to like my family and terrible. And how old are you at the time you're seeing this? A child? No, I'm a, I'm 20.

Okay. 23. And how old are you now? I'm 32. About 33. So this is about 10 years ago. And I'm just watching it affect my family. I'm watching the, I'm watching it every court day.

I'm going to the court dates. And I'm watching him kind of get away with it more and more and more. And when all said and done as far as court goes, he doesn't get any jail time, has to register privately, which I didn't even know is a thing. So many people don't know is a thing. Right now, I don't know. Yeah. You don't have, there's a private and a public? Yeah.

Come on, man. So there's a private registry where they're registered within like the database of like the system, where regular people like us don't have access to see that. Exactly. So basically all that means is. But he's 19. That's an adult. Exactly.

And he was doing it for over two years, supposedly, from 17 to 19. So that happens. And he ends up, like I said, no jail time, registers privately. and I know people are going to yell at me because I'm interrupting you. Go ahead. I'm pretty good about not doing that, but I have so many questions. Yeah. When you register privately, like, is he protected in the sense that he can go, you know,

is he having any restrict? Can he go get a job? Yeah. This is where I'm getting to. Does he have to be a, is he on the Megan's Law or Gov site and things like that? So that's, that's a great question. It's actually where I'm getting to. to is so he doesn't have to, like he can get a job and nobody would ever know he can go to a

college and all those things apply. So I'm going, he gets a job with Taco Bo. I go to Taco Bo and I got the court papers and transcripts. I'm like, listen, this guy's doing this. He's working around minors. He goes to get a job at KFC. I do the same thing. And I'm not even exaggerate. We do this like, we'll dance like four times. He gets a different job. I go to that job. And do they let him go when you present the information? Sometimes the Taco Bell let him go. KFC let him stay. And And then there was a couple others that I believe got him to stay. But Taco Bo was legit. But so I go to school to be a teacher.

And I want to be a football coach and a high school history teacher. It's like my dream. This is my dream. And I'm starting my third year. So it'll be like my junior year. And I'm taking statistics and in walks into my classroom. No way. That guy.

No way. Swear. Can't make it up. And so he stayed in the community. everything too. Yeah, small community too. Yeah, he didn't even bother to move. He's right there where a small town, look, the core of you know. Yeah. And so small town, there's a community college. It's called Tara. And I'm going, like I said, to be a teacher. I'm the education professor. It was like the main leader of like that program. It happens to be the dean of the whole school.

So she's wearing a couple hats. I've been doing the education program. for three years, well, two years to that point. And I go in and I tell her like, hey, you're the dean. This is what's going on. This is a situation. This is very, like, personal to me. And, like, I can't, how am I supposed to, like, come in here? This is the hardest class statistics is hard as fuck.

Yeah. So I'm like, man, I can't really focus. Like, I want to kill this guy. Like, this isn't really fair. And she's like, well, you know, he paid to be here. He has every right to be here as much as you. I can ask him to leave. I guess you asked him to leave.

He said no. And that's crazy. That's crazy. The defiance. The defiance. Exactly. So are you, are you allowed to stand up in class and say, everyone, here's who this guy is, here's the proof. I've made copies of it and passed around.

Or is that slander? Is that, you know what I mean? Can you get in trouble for that? Well, I was told, this is what's funny is now 2026, I'm Mr. Make a Scene in places and stuff. She told me exact words. It was like, you know, don't make a scene about this. like this and that. That's because they don't want the bad.

Exactly. So I made a scene. I did exactly. Go for you. You've narrated this whole story damn near. Is that right? Yeah. I made a see.

I stood up and it's like, you know, this guy's a pedophile. He molested somebody in my family. And this and that, nothing happened. It was just fucking awkward, I guess. He kept on coming to class. He kept coming to class. One of those people that. That's the, that's so low that what's lower.

You know what I mean? Like who like just, and this is a thing. point that I'll bring up later on when it comes to, like, justice and what we see in this country. But, you know, I took all my time exposing this guy. So I've seen, I seen the justice system and the judicial system give this guy a pass. And the education system. Yeah, and that's one thing. Where kids live. And go to, there's, there's minors in that class. Of course. It's a small town college. You got a 15-year-old girl in there and an 80-year-old man. You know what I mean? in the same class. So I watched the private sector protect these people. And then I watched

right in public these people being protected. And I was like, you know, this is enough. I've seen Chris Hanson videos and stuff like that. But at this time, that was done. It had to be canceled for like five to ten years. And there was this group called a pop squad. And I think he was based in Connecticut, who kind of does what I do now. And we would watch him. And he was like, I felt like, no offense to him. I just felt like he's so nice. You just way too nice to these guys. And I'm like, I'm already exposing this guy. You know what I mean? Let's see if I can actually catch a predator. And me and my best friend, Jay, we, we set up a grinder. And then the next day, we caught three guys. Get the, in one day. In one day. Yeah.

All right. So let's dial it back for a second here. Your childhood, or did anything happen to you? Yeah. So I was like, I was molested. but like I went I was sent to like this home school and it was like you want to somebody's house yeah it was like a Christian home school so if we rewind so you say everything with the yeah yeah it turns out like I was sent to this home with this family and they had like the brothers in prison right now for child porn and I guess like the father was molested all the kids oh my god so yeah one of the brothers like fucked with me and shit like that. Who sent you into the school?

Why are you going to the school? My grandparents. Why, though? Why not regular school? You want to just start from the beginning? Yeah. Let's start from the beginning. So my mom was 14 when she had me, 13 when she got pregnant. My dad was 19.

Excuse me, everybody, right? Wow. So it's literally right there it is. So, yeah, I'm like a. You're born into it. Yeah. So your grandparents, really, I mean, your mom's 14. They're your parents, basically.

So, yeah. So my grandma, my real grandpa used to beat my grandma and, like, all kinds of stuff. It sounds terrible. I want to laugh, but like the way she would describe it, she'd be like, he would shoot guns in the house and he would try to have sex with my butt. I laugh every time. I know it's like painful for her. Yeah, but the way he had sex with my butt. I just always thought that was funny.

So she, he had like tried to kill her. He's a psycho. So she left him. And I had, she had my mom and my uncle. And she got into another relationship to got, she got married, met this guy, got married like six months and then he died in like a motorcycle accident. So she's real. And she meets a guy 12 years younger than her straight out of the military.

And I guess, I don't know, they fall in love, whatever. And then this guy who's only 10 years older than my mom and my uncle Mike is like now all of a sudden like the father figure in the house. And there's like a lot of drama, as you would assume. And so my mom's like, this is late 80s, early 90s. You know, I was born in 93. So she's, I always picture this is like the Terminator years, like Terminator 2 where they're out at the mall. And then like you got John Connor. I'm like, this is like how that world looked back.

then. And she said she was like skipped school and she told my dad she was older and stuff. So they have a baby. It becomes me. Then my dad, he does construction and he's always like traveling and my mom starts to do drugs with her like new boyfriend or something like that. And early 90s, there's no such thing as crackheads. By the late 90s, there's crackheads and my mom's one of them. So my mom's always out partying, disappearing. And by the time I'm like three years old, my grandma takes full custody of me. So I grow up with them. I'm growing up with my grandpa.

And are they local? Are you still seeing your mom and dad? Are they in your life? I see my mom. So I'm in a small town. And like I keep saying, some people won't really relate. But like when you're in a small town, you might even relate with like a neighborhood. You have like local crackheads.

You know what I mean? There's a guy that always sits at like this speedway type of thing. You know what I mean? And my mom was like a local cracket. So like I would see her and then like she would come over like every now and then. She loved me but it was just wasn't just her dopamine was so fucked up that she couldn't like live a different life. You know? So basically I'm growing up with my grandparents.

My grandpa, uh, step grandpa, whatever you would like to say, um, a psycho. Like crazy, uh, military. I never got whoopens I would get monkey punched So I wouldn't get punched in my face But I get smacked with fists So like I was getting my ass whipped like all the time

Like I remember one time I wore like his slippers To take out the trash And then he like woke me up And smacked me with a slipper in my face and shit I would get the shit be on me all the time So That like sucked as a kid I'm like I can't wait to get out of here

This and that But like Now that I'm a I'm a man and stuff Like nobody will ever be, he was like 6-2, and I'm like eight years old. He's kicking my fucking ass. So nobody will ever be like that much bigger than me. So like I'm not really scared of guys or physical confrontation and stuff.

So I'm kind of thankful for that because a lot of men like get uncomfortable in those like chaotic violent situations. And I feel pretty comfortable. So that's like a silver lining that came from like the physical. Someone I want to ask you about later too. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like a silver lining that came from the physical. abuse. So I didn't really have nowhere to go. My dad started a family states away and he's being a

great dad. So that's another silver lining of like, oh, like, you're a great dad to my brother and sisters. But to me, it's kind of just like sucks. You know what I mean? So my grandma and grandpa are like super Christian at the time. It's early thousands. To them, Pokemon, if you say a Pokemon, it's like a demonic spell. Like, Pikachu was like summoning demons and every, like, I wasn't allowed to watch, like, Land Before Time because humans were around with dinosaurs. I swear to God. What's fucked up is I wasn't allowed to watch Harry Potter, but, like, it was, like,

all convenient because, like, I was watching the movie seven. Like, I was watching all kinds of, I'm watching all kinds of other shit because they want to watch it. So they're like, yeah, watch this. But by yourself, you can't watch Harry Potter. Exactly. So like I'm watching all kinds of Schindler's list and shit. Like I'm a film buff. That's one thing that they did do is they every Tuesday they got the new movie that came out. So like I'm always watching on these DVDs and shit. But yeah, I'm so fucking removed from like, you know, this music's demon music and this and that. So public school, obviously, if Pokemon's are demons, public school must be the fucking devil. You feel me? So they sent me to this private. Sent me to this little private little Christian thing. results in me getting molested, which I didn't even tell even anybody for a long time.

And by who is this the son? Yeah, yeah. And luckily I was out of that situation because I would beg to be in regular school. But never told. Never told, no. And that probably happened in like third grade. And I finally got back to regular school in sixth grade. So I had like three years of that.

And that was, that was fucking terrible. And is the abuse happening the entire time you're there? Like almost. It was like, it was like fourth grade. Nothing happened third grade. Shit would happen fourth grade. And I would, I would be fucking, like, I'd be like not liking it. They didn't want to do it.

And then I was threatened to tell. And then he stopped in like fifth, like fifth grade or whatever. So, um, yeah. When do you tell? Huh? What age are you when you finally? tell someone you know i didn't tell anybody for a long time like i've told my fiance and honestly i even told my fans you're getting a fucking scoop what do you mean i don't not even my supporters really

know that whoa so i said it one time on alive and i'm like that's not the right time to say it so i deleted it but yeah but you don't people don't know that you also were a victim yeah wow all right so you're not doing it just because that family member was abused and you watch the system fuck them over and protect these predators. You're doing it because you also yourself were a victim. If I'm being honest though, like, I don't know if it's like a self-protecting thing, but like I almost forget. Like I almost don't think about it or anything like that.

So like in my mind, like I am doing it for the system and things like that. All right. So let me jump ahead for a second. Is this guy still around? Have you found this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I confronted him. And he was- In person?

Yeah, and he was like 16 doing it to me when I was like, like, I don't know, eight or something like that. Yeah, you're fourth, fifth grade, yeah. Yeah, so. And when do you confront him? How old are you when you confront him? Two years ago. Shit. Yeah, I wrote him on Facebook.

Did he respond? Yeah. And did he admit it? Yeah, he apologized and was like his-old brother was doing it to him and he said his older brother was doing it to him. And then that's how I found out all this shit. And then, yeah, and then after that, I didn't really know what the fuck to say. You know what I mean? Does he know what you do now?

Yeah. Yeah. Is he shitting himself? I think. I mean, you haven't, I don't know. You haven't outed him? No, because he was like, that's why I don't talk about it too much because he was, he was 16. And it was getting, and it was getting done to him. I understand.

He's a child doing this to a child. Yeah, yeah. So, like. This isn't a teacher or someone. Right, right. So it's a, it's a chaotic. It's a chaotic feeling, you know. It's also I'm impressed with you because to be in the throes of what you do and go after these sick fucks, like to have the, I don't know what you would call it, the fucking empathy for this person to be like, you were a kid at the time you were doing that to me.

I'm not going to ruin your fucking life. Yeah. I mean, that says a lot about you. You could. How do you know he's not still doing it though? You know, just, you know. Right. You know, and what I've read from Chris Hansen's.

sitting here, other people who've been abused, that shit doesn't seem to just stop. You don't just stop. No, I don't believe that there's like, you know, you don't just one day go, what the fuck am I doing, man? Let me get that shit again. Stop. So, I mean, that's very true. Does that guy have kids? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. All right. So we're going back now. So you also are a victim and now you're in public school and you're away from that situation. Yeah. And what then later in life makes you go enough is enough fuck this i'm doing what i do now yeah the situation that happened with my family is just watching everybody so when do you start when you let me take you back you said you'd set up a tender or grinder excuse me three three dudes the next day three dudes the

what is the setup what are you doing to so at that point we know what bait are you used we google teenage boy and image google google image is teenage boy is this guy looks like on a disney channel it's So fake. And you put a picture up like it's a profile. Yeah. And then they write. And they believe it. Yeah.

Because don't you have to be a certain age to be on all these things? Yeah. In Facebook you have to be. Sure. Yeah. So you do. And then you just say, hey, I'm 14. And what do you do?

What's the message? Like, how do you fish for it? What do you say? We've never, I've, out of the 800 catches I've been on, I probably, yeah, I've probably caught myself 500. it, I've never wrote a prayer first. Never had in my life. So you're just setting up a profile.

You don't even ask, hey, anyone. I'm not fishing. I am the fish. They come right in. They're fishing. They're fishing. Yeah, you have a bunch of people that are right. All right.

So let's talk about the very first one. That guy hit you guys up. Where do you go? What's? Before you refine your process, what is this one? The very first one. Who goes with you? Are you armed?

No, his name is Raphael. And I'm just with my buddy Jay And we're in the car on our way It's like a four minute drive We did all the hard work Basically it wasn't even that hard hardware work He was really easy And you're just like what?

How old are you telling? I'm 14 And I'm gonna meet you at the Walmart Yeah, we'll meet you at the Walmart He has a hotel He wants to have sex Jesus Christ So

Oh shit It's really happening It's like 6.30 in the morning Probably late 30s Early 40s Oh my God Yeah. And 6.30 in the morning, these fucking sick asses are?

This is the, that's the prime time to catch the bad guys. Why? I don't know. Why are they up so early? I think before work or something they're trying to. I don't know. It's really the prime time hours. So, his name is Raphael.

We're on the, we're in the car ride. And all we've seen is like, this isn't what it is now at all, where there's like a bunch of like things to look at and be like, oh, we could do it like this and do it like this. There's really, I. I've seen a couple videos of it. And I know I didn't want to do it like that. So we're going in the car. We're like, who's going to talk?

Like, how are we going to do the video? I'm recording all the videos. I was so hardheaded that I wasn't, I wasn't a content creator. Like, I was a security guard and going to college. So, like, I'm recording the first 15 videos, like, vertically. And everybody's yelling at me, like, turn it sideways. I'm like, no, it feels comfortable. But, yeah, so, like, we're amateur.

I don't know how to record. I don't know what I'm going to, even what we're going to say. I got like the chat logs in one phone. And what's so crazy is we go to do the catch and I could release that catch today. And nobody would like be like, hey man, this seems like different. We do the excuse me everybody, all that stuff. Okay, you do right away. You're doing that.

You didn't walk up quietly and ask him first. You're like, excuse me everyone. This guy's here to. Well, yeah, we talked to him. We talked to him a little bit. Like what you're doing here to die? He tries walking away. I do the excuse me everybody.

Long story short, this guy. Tell them. Tell them. If people aren't familiar with you. work. Tell them how you out them. Oh yeah. So if soon as we're done with our talk or whatever, if we're in a big public space, I love, it's for them and for us. And I'd love to explain that. Excuse me, everybody, for them is like you're in your underwear at school. It's your worst nightmare. It's the worst thing that you've ever done being an alarm clock for your whole like local

neighborhood. Because if I'm catching you, I'm in your neighborhood. You know what I mean? You're not in my neighborhood. I'm in your neighborhood. So just nightmare feel. And for you. And for you. For me, the excuse me everybody is more for the audience. Everything I do, even the smacks or any type of punishment that they come along, I feel like that stuff is to throw away. And it's really for the audience to take. So the excuse me everybody is for you to be shopping at Walmart and your Target or whatever your local grocery store is and you're getting milk and you think you're just going to make waffles this morning for your family. I even have my kid with me.

Yeah, you'll have your kid with you all the time. And all of a sudden there is a pedophile. that will have sex with kids right next to you. Right next to you. And I feel like that's the wake-up call that America needs to hear is like this stuff is next to you. And you live in our government. Yeah, you live in L.A. And speaking from a person from small town America, I've done a lot of traveling in the past like decade.

But small town America, you kind of grow up and you go, oh, that stuff only happens in L.A. That stuff only happens in Florida. You know what I mean? And I love, I love like breaking that matrix in small towns, big towns, anywhere. Like, this happens everywhere, you know. So that's what they excuse me, everybody's about. And it's, it's. Okay.

But again, with Chris Hanson, I was mentioned before we recorded, he's got police right there. Sure. You don't roll with security or don't answer that question. Let's not let people know whether you do or not. But it doesn't seem like you do in the videos. He has the cop. Like if they go right there, they come right in. Are you armed?

Do you have any kind of weapon? Do you have any kind of self-defense? And two part, if you do, does that get you in trouble? Because at the time, I'm listening to the court bullshit already. Like, well, you didn't catch him doing that. Right. You didn't see him doing anything in person. So if you pull a weapon on him or something, now are you the bad guy?

Yeah. I mean, if I pull a weapon out and it's like, Unprovoked or anything like that? Have you been attacked? Has anybody had a weapon where they caught you knife or? Shot at. Shot at? My partner got shot.

What do you mean? And we had to take the gun away, North Carolina. In the store? Yeah, Winston-Salem. North Carolina, you Google it's crazy. Tell me what happened. You go to get this guy? We go to get a guy.

We're a 13-year-old girl. His name's Dante. He wanted to take the girl to a quarry, which is like a man-made lake. After telling the story, I realized a lot of people don't know where the quarry is. Yeah. It's a Midwest type of thing. So, um, so you want to take this girl to the quarry. We walk up to him.

Like I said, I've done this hundreds of times. Hey, Dante, or Dante, what you're doing here? Immediately he tries to grab my phone. I put my phone on my chest and do like a little spin move. And I look back and him and my partner are like die hard spinning around with a gun. In the store. In Target. Fuck.

So I jump on the guys back. And, um, at some point during that. Sorry. That tussle, the gun goes off. My partner gets shot in the leg. Whoa. In target. In target.

And he shoots like three more times. Pong, bum. Anybody else get hit? No. Jesus Christ. We take, we're wrestling him. I put him in a rear naked choke. And to this day, I don't know if he actually passed out or fake passed out.

We got the gun away. And as soon as I pushed down, he jumps back up. And my partner's punching him. And we was like kicking his ass the whole time trying to get the gun away. from him. And so we finally get the gun away. We go get the gun. We take it because we don't want him to get it back. And people on target is thinking it's like a mass shooting. You know what I mean? Like active shooter situation. We walk out of target and it's just boom, boom, boom, maybe like 60 cop cars. It's, I'll never forget the visual. It's insane. And we get to the car and he's bleeding

everywhere and we're basically like I'm like let's go to the hospital he's like no I just want to go home and at this time we live in Ohio and we're in North Carolina we're like 15 hours from home you bleed out yeah so we don't know how bad it's man he's never been shot before he's been in the army he's in the army for four years but never any act of combat or anything like that um so we drive off and we're like freaking out we get to this four-way light and he he's like bro he's right behind us and we look back and the predators right behind us he got out of the store before the cops yeah damn and now he's chasing you now he's chasing us so there's like a four four lane road and like the two left two left lanes are like turn

lanes and i always tell this story wrong where i can't really remember how i do it so at some point i'm trying to jump a light where it's a red light and i'm just going to run the red light because he's behind us and i'm scared as fuck i think he's got a another gun like whatever and um i try to like jump this light and i get into a car accident a car hits me boom and i do like a 360 and i'm pointing the same way that i was going at the end of the little car accident and i just punch it but at this point the car i'm thinking the car's fucked up it's not going over like 25 and so i'm trying to do like gta maneuvers where i'm like trying to go as fast as i hand and slam it on the brake. Hopefully he's going to drive past, but it doesn't work. Switching

lanes to try to, like, trick him. Eventually, we pull into, like, this doctor's office, and I have his gun. And I'm, I've been driving for, like, eight minutes at this point, already did the tussle and all that stuff, thinking I'm going to die. And just, I think my brain was just fried. I can't do it no more. So I got the gun, and I get out the car, and I park and get out the car, the predator parks get out the car. And he's like, please stop. I just want to talk. I got a family. Delete the video, please. You can keep the gun.

I'm like, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. And I tell him, get down on the ground. He gets on the ground. And I'm like, put your hands behind your back. He puts his hands behind his back. And I run back to my car. And took off?

Try to take off. Car won't go no fucking way for some reason. And he gets back in the car. Chases us again. I end up pulling over maybe five minutes later into like a driveway that has like a ring camera. I'm like, whatever happens here, it's just going to fucking happen. And he's like, you guys can keep the gun. Please delete the video.

We're like, all right, we'll delete the video. Leave us the fuck alone. And he's like, all right, thank you. And he leaves. He believed it? He didn't make you do it and watch him? No. He just leaves.

He is a fucking idiot. Yeah. And so we go back to our Airbnb. We're packing up like, oh, my God, we're going to be in so much trouble. Like, we didn't start anything, but like, he was just a fucking shooting and Target. Like that's fucking crazy. And your buddy shot. Yeah.

Someone got hit. Exactly. Even though we didn't start it, we didn't do anything, it was just like, we're like in a what the fuck's going on. So Jay gets a call and it was like, hey, you know you guys are wanted for robbery. And we're like, what? They're like, yeah, you're all over the news. So apparently the guy, the predator went home and whoever was at home was like, what the fuck? His face was fucked.

We beat his ass. So I guess they took him to the hospital and he tells the hospital two guys just beat me up and took my gun. So now the police are looking for us because we're two guys that beat him up and took his gun. We eventually sorted out through lawyers and all that stuff. But yeah, it was bad. And then did they get this guy? Dude, the fucking Target didn't have a video. There's no video right there.

And the only video that I have is him attacking me and then the phone drops. So all you hear is stuff. So they gave us all three array charges. And then he's got like another charge for like discharging a firearm in public or something. That's it. No attempt of murder. Even though he fucking shot somebody. No.

And then he's trying to shoot me in or fucking head. What about that for? Nothing. Nothing. And I always forget to say this when I tell the whole story because like why the car didn't go over 25, I was stuck in fucking neutral. And I'm so, like, zoned into the world of like, oh, no. Like, you couldn't even shift.

Couldn't even, yeah, I was, I was fucked up. So the whole time I'm, like, stuck in neutral thinking the car is trashed. Try to hell, run a fucking guy who's killing you and you're in neutral. Bro, retarded. So I always forget to tell that part. But, yeah, it was stuck in neutral all the whole time, didn't know it. Warmer weather is right around the corner and spring cleaning doesn't have to apply to just your home and if you've been putting off cleaning up the messier parts of your business,

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You're like, holy shit, or first three, that was easy. Yeah, we get one guy and then we're like, that was easy. We go back home to do it again, caught a guy in like 20 minutes at the McDonald's, did it again, caught a guy later. Are all these, even the early ones videos you have up on your, Yeah, even back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got all of our videos. And this is, this is a small town.

So, like, our local, like, news conglomerate is Toledo. So Toledo's coming down. And they're filming, I'm on every single news channel for, like, the next few days. Because you've put it out on social media. Yep. Okay. And we went super viral. And at this point, I'm still going to college.

This isn't, like, something maybe I'm doing on the side. Like, this has been crazy. Can't believe, like, all this is happening. and then COVID happens. And then, so our first catch takes place January 21st, 2020. Okay. Oh, wow. Right the beginning.

Yeah. So COVID really started like March where they shut shit down. And we got the stimulus check me and my boy. And we just put it together and he's got a, he had like a minivan. And we drove across the American. We're like, let's go catch predators. This is the first time that we're catching out of town. I'm like, let's go catch predator.

Illinois. We're big Denver Broncos fans. Me and him. So we're like, let's go see the stadium. Let's just go drive to the stadium. Like, no football, no nothing's happening. We're like, let's just go drive to the stadium. While we're on the road to catch predators, let's go check out fucking the Broncos. So we're our road trips. I mean, look, what you're doing is ugly.

Yeah. It's the most depressing shit. It's terrible. I mean, in the sense that the people you're doing with, the idea that you could be saving people and helping people's wonderful, but the fucking underbelly you got to go into is disgusting. It's some micro shit. It's some dirty chop shit. So it's, it's nice to know that you're still able to be like, man, let's go get a fucking,

I heard the sandwich shop's nice over here. Like, God, damn. You got to really turn it off, man. So when you put that out there, like, are you, are you using Grinders still? Yeah, we use Facebook, Grindr, Me, Me, all and stuff. And then you'll say what, I'm in this town. Yeah. And then you guys.

It's location-based. And you say this target or whatever. That's what's crazy is 90% of our catch trips, we don't have a single leap. We just show up in it and we catch guys. What do you mean? You don't fish first? No. You're saying you and your buddy get in a car, you drive to Indianapolis.

We could go anywhere. You haven't set it up before you left. No. And then when you're there, you just set up a thing. You're sitting there in a car and do it or whatever. How quickly from the time you set up an account do you? have someone hitting you up. What's so ironic about this is we were filming a documentary that's being edited right now.

And we went to South Burlington, Vermont, which if you Google right now, the safest place in America, South Burlington, Vermont will pick up, like, will show up. We call a predator there in a half hour. Come on. Half hour. And you were setting up and everything there. Why everybody else, like unpacking our bags and like, I'm on the phone and got a guy. Yeah. And you go get them.

Yep. At his work, he was at a gas station. He said, come meet me here? Yeah, they're stupid. Come on, dude. I caught a guy as a nine-year-old. Tell me the dumbest ones. I caught a guy as a nine-year-old one time.

What? He was nine? Yeah, my guy was, like, my decoy was nine years old. And after this, I'll show you, I'll show you, like, the applications I use two applications. I sound like a fucking boomer. But the apps I used to make myself look younger. But, yeah, I caught a guy I was posing as a nine-year-old, and he was. in Texas. How was he? Oh, he's an older one. He was like 70 something. 70. Yeah. And how I, he was in

Fort Worth and how I really got him. And this is early on in my catching two is I said I was making Christmas cards. And I wanted to send him one and I needed his address. A stranger. Yeah. And I needed his address to send the Christmas card. And he gave me the address, took a plane, showed up right at his front door. do they do? That because that's, that is really dangerous. Because the way Hansen does it, it's, this person's coming to their location. I think, I think that's almost dangerous. A stinghouse is pretty dangerous within itself because they know, they know that it's a potential to be a trap. If I'm just showing up at your door, I could be like, fair enough,

I could be like Amazon guy. They know the lay of the land in their home. They know where all their weapons are in their home. Yeah. You know what I mean? I haven't gone into too many houses. You coming to their house. That's why I like to do it in a neutral ground, like a store or a park or something like that. But this one, you went to his house? Went to his house. And what happened? He ended up living, we ended up finding he was living with his sister and her sister's

husband and we tell them. Do they know? Most of these people know. Yeah. I would believe so because he was registered. So he had already done it before. So we ended up, funny enough, we ended up like, he agreed to like go to the police station. So we drove him to the police station.

Nothing ever happened. What do you mean nothing? Nothing. Nothing ever happened. And what's crazy is... This guy said I solicited an... I'm telling you I did this. I solicited a nine-year-old child online, which is illegal.

Yes. I'm confessing it myself. Yes. And nothing? Nothing. Fuck. Yeah. And actually what's...

How frustrating is that for you to do all this work just to keep seeing them get... Well, that ties into the Chris Hanson stuff of like you see Chris Hanson with with police. When we first started, our whole thing was like, yeah, let's get arrested. Good old boys.

Fucking Boy Scout shit, man. Like, let's get them to the proper authorities and call the cops and this and that. They're definitely the ones you said to the boy scouts. So, yeah,

exactly. And we've got, like, police recordings and stuff with the police captain. Basically, they said in Ohio, since it's not a real minor,

there's nothing you can do. And a lot of states are like that. Since it's not a what? A real minor. A real minor. a real minor. What the fuck's a real minor? It's not anyone under 18? Because there's not a real victim. There needs to be a real victim.

So just, ah, I see. Because you're not an actual minor. I see. So they need, there needs to be a real victim, which in my head, like, it's like, why are we being so reactive instead of proactive? If I walked into a bank with a note that said, I'm robbing this bank, give me your money. Yeah. I don't have a weapon.

I haven't robbed a bank yet. You didn't give me the money. It's not a real robbery. I should be able to walk out fucking. Right. Wasn't a real robbery. It's just a note that said that. Exactly.

So you'd be arrested on the spot for that. Right. On the spot. And there's ways to like work around it. Because the police can do it. I kind of left that part out. It has to be a real minor or a police officer. And the police can do it.

But for some reason, they don't. Oh, the police could pose. And then if you do it to a police officer, or it's illegal, but the rest of us it's not. Yeah. So then it's like, okay, so I'm getting frustrated that you guys aren't doing this. And they're like, well, we have groups that are trained to do this. And it's like, well, why am I catching so many?

And I've tried to do, like some places like Michigan. Michigan's pretty good with arrest and predators. Florida's pretty decent with arrests and predators. Who's not? Ohio, Cali, Indiana. There's lots of random places. but like Arizona. California sucks for California sucks.

California sucks. Arizona is really bad. There's just random places and there's state laws. There's so many like things that stars have to line up. There's state laws. There's DA's detectives and police. So the police like have to make a good case to the detective. The detective has to make a strong case for the DA. And then like the DA has to make it work within the fucking state law.

And then that's just to get a charge. You know what I mean? And I'll bitch about a charge. And then I'll bitch about the conviction. Like I'm probably a pretty boring, annoying guy. But we try to do everything right with the police. And they're telling us, oh, there's nothing we can do, nothing we can do. So we're like, okay, we'll just keep exposing these guys.

We're on YouTube at the time before we get canceled. YouTube canceled. Yeah, YouTube canceled us. For what? Bullying. This is before we put hands on anybody. We're just being mean. We're just being mean.

They're all protecting top. Yeah. Everyone. Every company, all of it. It's sad. So. Can I ask you this question real quick? You're doing all that you ever get in trouble?

Have the police ever been like, hey, motherfucker, no, you're the problem? Have you been arrested? Have you been arrested? Yeah. I've been arrested with a fourth degree felony for kicking a car, for kicking a predator's car. Of a predator. Yeah, I kicked this car and caused $250 worth of damage after insurance. And you got arrested.

And I got arrested with a fourth degree felony, which would ruin my life. I'm not a felon. You know what I mean? And these guys are literally walking scot-free after their time. Yeah, exactly. And wanting to fuck kids. I got a hotel room right here. That's not illegal.

Exactly. God. What's not to get too off track here, but a 50-year-old man can talk to an eight-year-old girl, name the age, name the minor's age. And he could call her beautiful. He could call her sexy. He could say, when you grow up, we're going to get married. He can say, we're going to get married now.

He can say, meet me at the mall today. They can meet at the mall. He can say, meet me at the mall. I'll buy you the biggest diamond ring you can find a cage jewelers. That's all legal until the guy says, we're going to have sex today. Or they send a naked picture. That's the only thing that makes that conversation illegal. So you have so many of these times where these guys are having these conversations,

and they know what line they can cross, what line they can't cross. And that's where I come in because we'll get to the police back in a second. But this is a moral and a spiritual crime to me more than it is like a literal crime of like, oh, you broke this code, revision code X, Y, Z, you know. And the police won't catch him. And if you're a predator catcher that like, oh, I only work with the police, we only try to get arrest like Chris Hanson or something like that. Then those guys just go through the, those guys are just walking free. They're pedophiles that are free because they have like an over average or not just a just not a below average IQ. I wouldn't even say over average IQ, just the average IQ.

And they get to walk free because they didn't say anything sexual. And in my world, they don't. In my world, they get touched or exposed or whatever I feel like doing to them. You should be exposed for talking to a fucking eight-year-old. You're trying to meet a 13-year-old girl. And if you got a good reason for it, then fine. Yeah. Like, then you shouldn't have no problem with me exposing your ass.

Like either. So, but we. Let me touch on something for a second. I said this to you before we record. you just brought something up to it. You said they were smart enough or whatever. I know that what I'm about to say, we're dealing with mental illness to begin with.

But I had asked you prior, like the spectrum of this mental illness. Like some of these men I see, it's always men. Have you called a woman, by the way? We've called four. Out of how many, 800? Yeah. Yeah. Not good numbers.

It's clearly obvious who the fucking problem is on this goddamn plan. No girls in the Epstein files or nothing. Okay. When I see some of these guys, the difference between a coach, a teacher, a priest, you know, whatever, an adult male who's trying to use their power, their influence, or whatever, versus some of these guys I see are clearly mentally unwell. Probably can't hold a job. You can tell by the way they dress. They can barely get themselves. What are we doing when it comes to that?

You know, I mean, look, all should be exposed. Yeah. But when the system, I guess, what happens to, like, God forbid, we were born with a disease where kids are attracted to us. Like, I say I'd shoot myself, but that's coming from a rational human being. Right. I'm sure if I'm in that mindset, I'm not wanting to kill myself. Yeah. What do we do about those people who really are probably have been abused for their whole life?

lives as well and they're mentally unwell like what do we do about that sector of these fucking predators it's a really good question i feel like it's not not touched on a lot because it's not a sensational but um i really believe that like it i believe it's a mental illness but i also believe it's a spiritual thing i believe like they love evil to like just fester and build up like a snowball you know what i mean i don't think i don't really know if somebody wakes up one day and it's like, I'm attracted to kids. I think it maybe starts somewhere and they just keep on nurturing that idea or something like that. And when you have like guys that are like queer, queerly, clearly have, that's pretty funny, right? Clearly have, what's the word,

a handicap possibly or something? A mental, yes, someone who, look, everyone does. If I'm a priest or a coach and I'm acting like I'm the pillar of the community. I'm fucking kids. I clearly I've got a mental illness. Right. But it's a different mental illness than this person. Add it on you. That also might have to be, you know, the whole thing might be there at home and they need to be taken care of.

And someone there is abusing them, you know, that kind of thing. So when you would counter that in the wild, how do you discern between the two? Yeah. So we just had caught this guy and he was clearly not there. and he had a caretaker. And he kept telling us he was going to, he was going to meet us and he had to take a van here and there. We were like, this is kind of weird.

And we talked to him on the phone, and he kind of, you could tell in his voice and stuff. So we meet him anyways because he wanted to date a little boy. He's sending nude pictures and stuff. And, I mean, he's a menace. He's a danger. So we meet him at, uh, it's actually is Fort Lauderdale beat. and his caretaker drops him off.

We watch the caretaker drop him off. We go expose him, da-da-da. He's getting, like, angry and he's denying it. So that's one thing, too. Like, I've only caught one guy who was like, let's just use the word spectrum. He was on the spectrum of something. And I'm like, hey, who are you here to meet? And the first thing he says, oh, I ain't know it was a boy.

He's supposed to be meeting a little girl. He's like, oh, I ain't know it was a boy. And I'm like, all right. I mean, this is, this is, this is, this is some guy that doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. That's what I'm talking about. Right. Which also still, it doesn't mean he's not a danger or anything at all. But what do you do when it's like that?

So that's a perfect example. Mentally arrested. Maybe he's nine years old in that human body. It's a perfect example. So let's just use that guy. Well, I want to finish the story about the, the Fort Lauderdale Beach. So the, we talked to him, his. caretaker comes over. We're telling her what's going on. She's like, you know, I got a boss too. And there's

another guy. She's caretaking for three people and the other dude. And you could tell he's on the spectrum too. He's like, wait, Daniel's a pedophile. And then, in the van. Yeah. And so he's like, I don't like pedophiles. I don't want to be here anymore. So like I hate that. I get messages from so many parents who have like children that are autistic and stuff like that, that people will go. People will always be like, oh, you know, they're on the spectrum. And it's like, that's how they, they don't know what they're doing. It's like, that's like, that's not fair to put it on somebody just because they're autistic or have Asperger's or something like that, that they're more inclined to be pedophiles. And I think, like, that's really unfair to the parents and, like, a lot of people that live with autism and stuff like that it's like.

Just plenty of people on the spectrum that don't touch kids. Yeah, exactly. All of a sudden that you're like pretty, pretty like exposed to, like, touching people. So that was really cool to see that on camera, but to go as far as how I handle things personally is we had the guy that goes, oh, I didn't know as a boy. So I end up, this is when I caught in my hometown. So everybody knows everybody. I know somebody that goes to church with his family. So I was able to like speak with their family and they go, oh, you know, he was never diagnosed with anything.

And he's clearly fucked up. But they never took him to the doctor. So he's just a guy living And he don't get social security Nothing else to have a regular job and they kicked him out for something I forget what the reason was so he's living by himself He's like trying to meet little kids But also you can tell he's not fucking there

And the police won't do anything because it's Ohio So I'm stuck So I don't even post a video because I kind of feel like I wasn't mean to him or nothing but Two weeks go by he writes another decoy and then does it again come on and then does it again so at that point now i have to post you because now you're dangerous to people because these predator catching videos ain't about oh i'm teaching this predator lesson it's about hey if you know this guy stay the fuck away

from this guy yeah's a demon so it's about the audience it's never really about it's also for the audience me myself i'm speaking here for all of us like it's alarming yeah to see how often then you fucking got content, bro. Yeah. There's no shortage of this shit. I could pose a every day, a guy every day for two years. I bet you could do more than one a day for two years. I bet you you could do more.

And everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. Alaska, Hawaii, Florida, Texas. Have you called someone? How many states have you caught? Have you gotten somebody in all 50? 33. You want to, you're going to do 50?

I want, yeah, I want to get somebody in Hawaii, get some in Alaska. Yeah, we got them all. Yeah. Get them all. We've got to hit the East Coast, all those little ones. What's the most dangerous one you've had, the guy shot at you? Yeah, we've had guys pull out knives and chases and stuff like that. Have you been physically attacked?

Anybody jump on you, like fuck that and go? So one guy punched me back. He did? Yeah, only one guy. Yeah. So here's my question, though, too. You're gaining notoriety now. Yeah.

I got a feeling that the predator circle knows who the fuck you are. Sure. Are you being notified as soon as you walk in now? Do people know you like, they know Hansen. Oh, I'm talking about the predators. Yeah, yeah.

The predators recognize. Like all shit areas. Yeah. Yep, exactly. Because we're the mean guys because we haven't really touched on it yet. So if you call the, if I catch a predator right now and call the police, the police are going to come and say, hey, there's not much I can do with this. I have to send this to a sex detective. And the sex detective is, and the police response time, we're here in L.A. or whatever, it's going to be like an hour and a half.

nobody's hurt it's not a gun you know what I mean that's what they if you get into an accident on a freeway and you call like is everybody okay yeah all right pull over and get insurance they don't even come yeah so we're we're looking at an hour and a half two hour response time and it's like you got to keep the predator there because or else I'm like and I have to like keep them there with like words I can't restrain them now I'm kidnapping you know what I mean yeah so and then you have to wait for the detectives to show up the detectives are going to come they're going to interview the predator are going to interview me and my partners are going to take a look at the information. They're going to say, hey, here's a card.

I want you to email everything that you got to this drop box. So like I told you, I went to the safest place in America and I called a predator in a half hour. So if I'm sitting there catching one predator and I'm there in a parking lot for eight hours waiting on police to do their thing, we realize like, hey, we can catch these guys. And then at the end of our trip, we just call the police station, get the email and send all a shit their way. And that's what we've done for the past three years, which is why you don't see, like, the police, like, automatically in our videos. And sometimes that happens. Sometimes in a

smaller town, the police get called because we're being crazy or something. And then they show up and it is what it is. How many of these guys that you're putting on this link in the end? How many are they actually prosecuted? We have 81 convictions. You do? Yeah. But out of, I know, I mean, that's like, percentage wise, it's not good. That's not good. And we have. And we have. But whatever. That's 81. Yeah, I mean... 1% actually, right? Well, 800, 10%, be 80.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Be eight of them. Yeah. Now, you're doing better than you think. So... Ain't doing better than you think, bro.

So... And that was like early on in the years. And I think a lot of times now, police, like, for some reason, restrained working from us, working with us, I should say. And I look at pedophilia. as a power thing. Like, I feel like you see a lot of low-life guys and you see a lot of high-life guys and not many middle guys. And I believe that's from like a power disparity. So, you know, the low-level people want to get power by being better than a child. And then you have the

powerful people who already have the most biggest bank account. They got the biggest, both, nicest house. And it's like, what else can they have power over? Of course. You know what I mean? Something is precious as a child. And I think. I think that's where it comes from. The women, let's talk about the women real quick. You said four? Sure, yeah. Who are they going for?

Are they going for girls, boys? It's usually a threesome with a girl with their man. Oh, but they want an underage one. Yeah, it's all been girls. Is that right? We haven't called a girl that's trying to have been a little boy. Never, just soliciting one-on-one. Have you met a girl trying to solicit a girl one-on-one?

Yes. Yeah, never a girl-on-law. But usually it's, I'm trying to get a young girl for a three-old. And they don't care that they're underage. No. So I never finished that. So we went on that tour where we're catching to Colorado. And we got like maybe 5,000, 10,000 subs on YouTube at this time.

Super small. We catch this girl named Beth. And she goes absolutely viral. And World Star, when World Star was a big deal. And shoots us up. We got like 80,000 subs in like three days. Like three million views on that one video. And now all of a sudden, Iowa City.

And now all of a sudden, it becomes a career. Like, now all of a sudden we're... That's the moment it shifted for you. Yeah, that's the moment it became like a career. Why did she go viral? Is she fighting you guys? She looked like Jim Carrey. Like her faces and what...

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Like, she was making like the craziest fucking faces you ever see. So it was like the mask. Jesus. It was insane. And she's trying to solicit a minor for her and her man. Yeah. Jesus. And they want a minor.

That's the thing. It's not like, we didn't know you're 16. They're looking for that. Yeah, I never call it. It sounds stupid, but I've never called like a good person, bro. Yeah. It's obvious, like, it's very obvious. You know what I mean?

The one thing I always tell, because I have a team that helps me catch predators and they pose and decoy and stuff. And I always tell them, you know, you can't trick people into being pedophiles. You know what I mean? Like, there's no, like, wordplay that you'll get somebody like that you'll be, they'll always be like, I haven't told them yet. I'm working on it. It's like, not just tell them. Either they're pedophiles or they're not. You know what I mean?

You can't word, you can't just like word your way. into like making somebody a pedophile. It don't happen. Well, you're a dad. So here's a two-part question. I want to know what you tell your kids. Sure. And then tell us, help us other parents out there.

What are you telling kids and what are you telling adults? Do you speak at schools or anything like that? I have my first speaking thing coming up, actually. Good for you. Good. Who's giving you a chance? Who's that? Rockford, Illinois.

Illinois. Was it a school? Yeah. Good. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I got my first gig. I'm sure.

Like you're also, you're 20 years younger. I'm about 32 somewhere around that. You know, you're talking a lot of older people, I'm imagining too, that have gone through what you went through in your life. And they're starting to be like, hey, you know what? Fuck yeah. Let's stop hiding this shit. Yeah.

Let's go start talking to churches, specifically Catholic fucking churches. Terrible. It's bad. We've called a guy, well, my partner, there's so much. to talk about. My partner, he was molested by his basketball coach. He confronted his basketball coach after doing what we've been doing. Yeah.

And he got enough, I guess, for lack of better word, balls to confront his basketball coach. His basketball coach killed himself after the video came out. Seven other kids came out and said, hey, well, seven other men at this point. Say, hey, he did this to me too. You find that out. It's never one kid, right? It's never. Never one.

And that inspired a kid from our hometown. name was Logan who said, hey, this guy who works for the church has been molesting me. We go with him to confront the guy from the church. And the guy's like, shh, not right here. It's so creepy. So creepy. It's called Logan's story. It's a most powerful video I've ever seen in my life. This is on your YouTube? Yeah. Well, I don't have YouTube anymore, but locals. And, you know, he's, this kid named Logan, he's screaming like, nobody was there to protect me because the church is like, good for him. Yeah, the church is like pushing the bad guy. way and like protecting him.

He ended up going to prison and stuff for all of it. He did? Yeah. Fuck yeah. So what do you tell your kids? What should we as parents be telling our children? It all starts off as you got to have great communication with your kids in general to be able to talk about uncomfortable things.

I feel like if you don't have good communication, if you can't ask a kid like what did you do at school today and they say nothing, then you're going to have problems. You know what I mean? You got to have like a clear communication of like there will be. going to talk to you because at the other day we've all been kids like we're not really if something happens at school our first person that we're going to talk to isn't our parents about it you know what I mean and they don't understand the danger that they're in a lot of times so it's establishing like before this and for everything it's it's kind of a boring answer but it's establishing like

really good connection with your kids to be able to communicate and if you have that then like this will be so less likely to happen. I mean, I've been telling my daughter since she was two. Yeah. Nobody. It used to be nobody but mom and dad touches your privates. Yeah. Only when we're bathing you or checking you.

And only the doctor if we are present. Exactly. Period. Anybody else touches your bathing suit area or asks to see it or anything you tell us right away because it's not okay. Right. And I don't care who that is in your circle. Heron, sibling. relative friend.

No. So I've been on that. But you also were a victim at a time when apps didn't, applications, as you call it, didn't exist. So that was one thing I talked to Chris Hansen about, too, is the DM capabilities on these fucking Roblox and all these things. Fortnite, all that stuff. Do you keep your kids off of those? Yeah, my kids, my kids ain't allowed to have YouTube and they're not allowed to watch YouTube. Yeah.

Right. Right. I come home like, hey, turn that shit the fuck off. No, but they're not allowed to do a lot of that stuff. Like my son can play games, but he's not allowed to be like in parties unless it's like with me or something like that. They don't have Roblox. No, yeah. That's what they say now.

Anything with a DM direct message capability is a problem. And just a big thing that a lot of people, I see some people talk about, their revenge porn, it's not really in my stuff, but they're like, they'll get kids, like 15 year olds, like teenagers. They'll get them to like pose as a girl and then they'll send nude pictures and then they'll say like, hey, we're going to send all your nude pictures to all your friends and listening your family and stuff. This is what Chris Hansen has told us to shit like that about people like, hey, go down the hall and take a picture of your five-year-old sister in the tub. and that shit goes on the fucking, the web shit you probably know about. And this poor kid is a 70-year-old doesn't even know what the fuck they did. Exactly. And then they're getting 100 robucks or whatever.

And, you know, the other thing, too, is, and I want to go back to my question is I say, well, what about the severely mental ill look? All of this is a mental illness. And the fact that, you know, when regular people like us, you guys out there, we're getting on an app, we're trying to figure out how to use the app properly. these motherfuckers are way ahead of us trying to figure out how to use it for their way. That's a whole other way of learning an application. So to say mentally ill, you're smart enough and well enough to do that.

Right. That's the fucking problem. No, for sure. And I think it comes down to having hardship penalties. These guys kind of know that they're going to get a slap on the wrist. Like every guy that I caught that I told you about, they bonded out the next day that night. So you've had 81 arrested or whatever? Yeah.

And they've all, not are any still in prison? No. None. Because listen, a lot of the times. Yeah, tell us how the system works. The times I would love to. The times that these guys will get long time without a victim is child porn. That's the only thing that's going to get them a long.

If they have an actual video or photos, that's it. Yeah, that's the only thing that's going to get them along period. Soliciting is nothing. Yeah, it's nothing because the judge is looking at it. It's like, there's not even a fucking victim. And even if there's a victim, because the one thing that I've been, I've been doing this a long time, and I didn't sign up for it. But like, I'm a lot of people's, I don't want to say this, like, fucking kind of this anyway, but like therapists. Like a lot of people write me.

I've read hundreds of thousands of stories about what's happened to them, their daughter, their son, their brother, their sister, their mother. The cycle that keeps going. and just the generational damage that it's done. I've seen it first hand. I think that so many people need help with this, and there's just not a place for it. And what's crazy is reported sexual assaults, and this is for the age 12 and over.

So this is for the age 12 and over happens every 68 seconds, and that's reported sexual assaults in America. Reported. All the ones that aren't. Reported. Once a minute. Yes. God.

Reported at the age of 12 and over. So like we're having weird, like we have to chop it down really low. There's a, there's a car accident every 12 seconds. So every time that you turn on the news or we get into a car, we drive down the highway, there's car insurance. Car insurance, car insurance. Why? Because car accidents happen so often every 12 seconds. We see nothing for child molestation.

And it happens just as much as. fucking car accidents. And that's the 12 and over. You said yourself, you got a 9-year-old, you guys. Exactly. So that doesn't even include the infant to also do it for it. Yes. Who knows where it actually brings it down to.

And that's also the reported ones. We're not hearing the ones that aren't reported. So who knows what it brings it actually down to? So we're at a, we're at a moment in the time where sexual assaults happened just as much as car accidents happen. And our culture recognizes that car accident. happens so much that we have car insurance here and lawyers. Because if it ain't a car insurance billboard, it's a lawyer talking about getting you money.

To help you get through it after. Physical therapist. These whole industries built on car crashes because they happen so often and it's so normal. And if I tell you, hey, I got to a car crash, you're like, you're okay? Cool. You don't think about it the next because it's a car accident. It happens all the time. We have sexual assault that happened just as much and there's no billboard on how to help you.

There's no fucking lawyer. Hey, we're going to get your sexual assault guy. There's no insurance. There's no representation. After it to help you. So we're living with such like a, like it's a normal taboo. Like it's something that happens every day. It's like pooping.

Like we all poop, but we don't want to talk about it. Like it's a normal taboo. So like this is happening to everybody around us, to ourselves, our family, but we don't ever talk about it. And it's a. It's a terrifying time. It is because, again, we're seeing it with these Epstein files. You can be an adult. They're doing it all the way to the top level, not just arch. I've been saying this for the longest time. People with the whole Trump's in the Epstein file. Yeah, he is. But Americans often are very self-centered in the sense that they forget about the rest of the world. Yeah, Donald Trump's in there. Yeah, no doubt. But so are fucking Emirates. so are presidents of other countries, kings, all these, it's a global, it's not just a U.S. like that, what's her face?

Dushbag Bondi said, well, if we go after everyone, we'll bring down the whole system. Okay. Sounds like it's time to bring down the whole system and start the fuck over because they're doing it right in our fucking face. It is no longer left and right. And even when I say Uber rich, man, fuck the athletes. Yeah. These $100 million?

No, I'm talking about. Billion and trillion. These Rothschilds and fucking Hearsts and all these fucking Wells Fargo banks and shit. Like those people. It starts to get weird when you... They can buy the weather and shit. That kind of shit. You're not lying, brother.

It starts to get weird when you just like, you... Okay, so you start... Who are going to take accountable? So we look at our police and our police spend more resources, more energy and more time, pulling people over for speeding. Oh shit. Recently marijuana charges you're going to prison for years and if someone can molest a child, nothing. Yeah.

Lanes infractions and all that stuff. And what's crazy is you'll be like, hey, why don't you catch your predators? And they'll be like, oh, well, we have a, it's always like a funding issue or we don't got enough guys on staff, but you see police parked waiting for people to speed. And it's, in my opinion, you have no excuse. If you ask a random person anywhere that you go outside at a gas station, you stand outside at a gas station, you ask 10 people, hey, what's the top three worst crimes? Every single one of those people are going to say murder, child molestation, rape. You know what I mean? And what happens in this country? 30% of murders get solved, less than 10% of rapes get solved.

I was going to say rape and child predators run free. And a lot of those rapists are raping children. Exactly. They're the child predators. So you have our three biggest problems in America and our police kind of just goes like looking the other way like, well, what about this guy speeding, smoking weed? And we go, but what about the pedophiles? But that's, that's the police. And then you have the judicial system where I don't think people really understand what's happening there is you will have a guy that will molest a kid.

But I just seen him in my hometown. A guy molested a kid. He was like 30 years old, molested a five-year-old kid. He did three months in jail, five years probation and had to register as a sex offender. Do you know what registering as, like, this is 2026. Registering as a sex offender nowadays literally is like a red mark on an application for an apartment. Like if you don't have to go door to door anymore. No.

Dude, when's the last time of God came to your door? Never. Exactly. That's the other thing. And I go to the thing and I'm like, they're all over my neighborhood. So when's the last time of God came to your door? Near churches. They're all near churches.

They're all near churches. Schools, parks. They're everywhere. The registry do. But you have these. Can I say one more thing? I learned about like Megan's Law out here, so many apartment dwellings that I would see like regular stars. But then I'd see this big star.

I'm like, what the fuck's at. And then you click on, do you know what that is? That's multiple predators living in the same building. They may not know each other. Clusters. Yep. So if the star is larger on the map, that means it could be a home. You know, sometimes they put those homes right in the fucking neighborhood too.

And it's like, what are you doing here? Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, dude. It's crazy. So you have judges who are older. It got 70-year-old judges, and they're from a different type, like Jeffrey Dahmer's registered sex offender. What did that stop him?

And this is where I come to, like, high level, low level. If you're low-level, you live with your mom, you have no job already. Yes. What does being a registered sex offender do to you? Nothing. Nothing. If you're Jeffrey Epstein and you can buy any building, you can buy anything that you want what does being a registered sex offender mean to you nothing so you have these you have these

judges who will hand out a registered you're you're a registered sex offender now and it's supposed to be like the guillotine but in reality it's like a mouse whisper like nobody gives a fuck so you're telling me this man physically touched a five-year-old child yes did how much how many months three months in jail five years or probation and he's out yeah but if that man would have had a photo or a video of a child, he's going to prison. Oh, yeah. So the fact that he actually put hands on someone is less of a charge than a digital picture. Isn't that crazy? That's real? You want to know why? Yeah, tell me. That is maddening. It becomes a federal charge because it happened over a computer and probably crossed state lines. That's why. That's the only snag in it.

Yeah, for the most part. Wow. Yeah, you could like, it's, It's a way worse charge to have child porn than it is to actually molest a child. That's in fucking sense. I mean, all of it's fucked up, but that's wild. It just starts not to make sense, you know what I mean? Starts not to make sense. Wow. We got to wrap this up here.

I'm going to get you out here. But before we do, I want to know this. As a dad, what are you telling everybody out there? Good communication, obviously, open lines, communicate, talk to your kids about it. Are you seeing that as yourself, too, the, Most people are, you know, it's someone you know in the family or whatever. Because you guys are fishing for a different thing. Dude, we're a tip of the iceberg.

So if it's that bad on where we're at, like. 30 minutes of you, everyone's still setting up the equipment and you already got one. Exactly. If it's that bad where we're at, like imagine the real world, you know. So we're just giving, all we do is we give these bad guys opportunities. So these bad guys are desperate for opportunities, you know. And all we do is give them one opportunity and they jump on it. quick, you know.

So what's your end game with all this? Where do you see it going? As corny as it sounds, I want to change the world. I want people to have a more, I want when a pedophile walks into a building, I don't want everybody else to get uncomfortable. I want the pedophile to be uncomfortable. Yeah, well fucking said. I go right back immediately thinking how that piece of shit would still show up at class.

I would never. That's how you know something's fucking wrong. Exactly. If you even joked about that, I'd be like, man, I'm, I'll fucking drop that class. Right. Yeah. Fuck that, dude. Wow, man, you are just at the tip of the iceberg of this.

And that's terrifying. It is. I think we're seeing it around the globe now, man. I hope it all falls down. I hope it all shakes out and falls down. And if it doesn't, now it never will. No. If it doesn't now, it never will.

You're right. We know it. They've told us. We've seen it. Also, you know, our country's blacking out all this shit and redacting everything. But it's a global file. All it takes is somebody out in Poland to go, hey, they don't want you to see it. Come over here.

Here's the whole. fucking thing over here. Go to dot poland.gov. That's what we need. We need somebody. It's not scared to fucking put this shit out there. Good for you. I know what you're doing is a bit renegade and everything.

And I hope like hell you stay safe. Because I can see that popping all fucking sideways for you. For sure. Especially from those desperate motherfuckers. Like you said, that guy chased you. I got a family. That's the other thing.

You don't think of that. You sometimes think of these loners that do live with their mom. But some of these men have families. Good job. They're fucking pillars of the community, so to speak. Yeah, often. Dude. Thank you.

Thank you for coming on, shedding light. Before we wrap up, I'm going to ask you advice you'd give to 16-year-old. You want to go by Shooey Monday? 16-year-old me, man. I was a little badass. Not in a good way either. I was just fucking angry at the world. Had what already happened, happened?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, coming from a small town and coming from the situation I was, there wasn't a lot of hope. You know, I didn't have anybody to look around me and be like, I want to be like him someday. So to, like it sounds kind of like pat my own back, but just be like, you know, just keep on believing yourself because you're going to be a man to look up to, even though you don't have a man to look up to, you know. Very well said. It's also nice to be that for some. someone that doesn't have that.

Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. Yeah. Promote everything one more time. Anything you'd like right here. Right here. Shua Monday on Instagram, S-H-U-A, M-U-N-D-Y.

See full videos on Dads Against Predators.com and that 2K on locals. You can go on the app or the website. Do you have a direct if any of these parents are wanting to reach out or anything like that? Is there a way to get a hold of you? Reach out to me. My DMs. My DMs. My DMs get filled, but luckily I have an assistant.

Shout out my boy, Big Ton. And we try to get to everybody as soon as possible. So you really do go through them and read. Yeah, we try our best. I'm sure. I'm sure you're getting bomb. That's the ugly thing is there's probably no way you can get back to all these fucking people.

Yeah, it's so hard because getting back with one message is one thing. And then people want to follow up and stuff like that. I try to have resources and try to send people some ways because I know a lot of people struggle with like having insurance and trying to get. get to some help. So I try to do my best and send people different ways and depending on the state or something I might be able to help you. But DM me, any questions that you guys have, whether it's an experience you went through or maybe you want a bad guy you want to expose, I'll come with you. You know, we love doing that. So thank you for having me, bro. I appreciate it.

Thank you. This is an awesome show, awesome set. Thank you. God bless me. Genuinely, I mean, what you do is it's also not a, I love my job. I'm sure you love doing what you do but man you are not dealing with fun fucking people oh yeah so good for you we need people out there and it'll fucking go down in that underbelly and expose it so i genuinely as a father too i appreciate you thank you thank you appreciate that brother um as always ryan sickler on all your social media we'll talk to y'all next week