The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - 388: Howie Mandel on OCD, ADHD, AGT & Being the Voice of Gizmo | The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler #388

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

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Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'll be there Friday, June 19th, and Saturday, June 20th. All tickets on my website at Ryan Sickler.com. The Honeydew with Ryan Sickler. Welcome back to The Honeydew, guys. You know what we do here. We highlight low lights. I always say these are the stories behind the storytellers. I'm very excited to have this guest right here for the first time on the Honeydew.

Ladies and gentlemen, the legendary Harry Mandel. Welcome to the Honeydew out. We're clapping you in. You know, the truth is, and I love that you're excited to have me and that it's a thrill to have me, but to be honest with you, like if you go, like, we're not at a club and we're not in a theater. And when you go, Howie Manda? Like that loud?

And then you go like this, it's sad. No, because there's nothing following. There's no applause. There's just one guy at a table applauding. It's kind of, it's like, I let down. Do you want me to redo it? No, it just. there's not enough people like not even Kirsten from the other room.

I could like if she applauded, I would be able to hear it. But she did nothing. Nobody. Nobody did anything. Just you. You're a pro. You nailed her name.

I didn't get Kirsten right for months. It's always Kristen to me and you've already nailed it. That's not her name. I know. I would get it wrong. And she didn't get pissed. She's sweet, but she'd correct me.

That's like me saying, I'm Howie and you go, hurry, hurry? You know what? At Starbucks, they get my name wrong. I don't think it's that tough of name. I was going to also say,

who the fuck's getting your name? name wrong at start what are they what are they calling you carry like we need the name they go we need a name so what i do now is i give them the most can you swear on this absolutely i give them the most fucked up names i've never like they don't look up and they don't and i don't think that if i'm wearing a hat and like this i don't think people recognize me so but and if i'm just at some obscure Starbucks i love Starbucks i'm not i'm getting paid by Starbucks i just i like uh caffeine that's what I'm doing i like caffeine is my fuel so so so So, but they'll always go, give me a name.

And I go, fine. They go, pardon me? And I go, fine. And I could you spell that? And then I will spend the next 20 minutes spelling it. I'll usually put a seven in it and make sure that they know that the seven is silent. So they don't have to do it. But then it's really funny when they'll have, some of them, some of them will just put down at the counter where you pick up.

But some of them will just call out. And just to hear some kid going, you know, and I know it's mine. And then they write like have a wonder glorious day. Glorious day. They do. You know, they write messages. I don't know why they think that's a good like advertising or production. Like somebody in head office came up with that, right?

No doubt. Like it's not a lot of yeses. A lot of yeses that one. Wouldn't it be great if not only do we have our baristas make the coffee, take the order, but I want an individual message, like an uplifting message to everybody. who could just here's your coffee is enough i also don't like that they yell hello when i come in i don't know them oh the loud greeting just recognizing your presence why is that that's a good one i don't know why i don't like that i go in really early in the morning good morning just i don't have my coffee

yet don't yell at me i people who love me at home don't yell when i walk into a room hello and good evening and or they don't do that at home if you want to make me feel at home just shh and give me my coffee and then I'll give you a fucked up name and then you try to say it how many how many cups a day how many drinks of coffee a day would you say a lot yeah yeah just keep going until I fall asleep I fall asleep anyway that's the other thing you can sleep on it it's the only way I can sleep I have I have ADHD so um I think I don't take or nor have I ever taken riddlin but you know how riddling calms you down caffeine allows me to focus and sleep. I don't sleep a lot, but maybe it's because I have a lot of coffee, but they don't, it doesn't,

it doesn't make me stay up. It just makes me kind of be a little more alert than I am, and I'm not that alert. I mean, I can't drive. I can't focus. When I don't want, you can't drive. I don't drive well, but now I do. I have a Tesla, so I do the auto driving so that Elon takes me places. All right. Or I have a driver, but I can't focus. I took flying lessons. Hold on. If you know you can't focus, why are you putting yourself up there? I like adventure. But I did. I took, no, but the pilot, the instructor, on the second instruction, the second day, he said, I'm going to, and listen, he goes, I need the money, but I'm going to tell you, let's not do this. And he told me not to take flying lessons.

Okay. He says, I'm not cut out. I don't have the attention span. I don't. I don't. I don't. I get distracted really easily. That's why I was really fascinated by Kirsten's countdowns. Yeah, I like when I hear yelling from a, what did she drop? Did she just drop something? She might have fell down. She might have fell down.

People don't hear this because they can, they're not wearing a headset or they're not listening to this. Well, I used to wear a headset. I did because you can hear if the audio stops or whatever. But I just don't like the look and feel of the headset. I'd rather just sit here and talk to you without the head. You can feel of it? Yeah, the headphones, you know. I like that.

I feel like when somebody's... We both have to do it or one of us does it. This looks a weird. I don't care if just one of you do... Like, I like talking... Do you want some? We can get you some. No, I like talking to people who are wearing headsets talking to a microphone because

I feel like I'm in a drive-through and I'm about to get something scrumptious. Okay. All right. Do you know what you're saying? Yeah. Because they're always wearing... I'm like the headset. Well, I've got a million questions for you.

But before we get in any of that... I've got a million answers. Please promote everything you're going to do that. got going on right now. I'm doing the Honey-Due podcast. This will be on. Well, if you're listening to it, it's on. Right?

Yes. If they hear it, it's on. Promote. I'm a season 21 of America's got talent. 21. 21 seasons, 17 with me. You're the reason we watch. I'm a comedian.

So you're the reason my daughter and I, my daughter's 11. And you're the reason to watch, bro. You're our favorite judge. Thank you. I want a comedian to win. Yeah. I want it. It's a hard, it's a hard.

But I always tell. comedians no matter what level they're at i i try to tell people to come on a lot of people are against it a lot of people in my community of comedy don't want to come on because our business um is like just really obvious judgment you know what i mean like if you're playing music or you're playing a song i don't think the musician knows that anybody loves them or doesn't love them i think at the end of a song, people just applaud. At the same level, you don't know. And they'll do that at the corner of a piano bar or a matta in.

They'll do it on a show. But if a comedian is not doing well, and it doesn't mean they're not funny, just not doing well, it's just not hitting or whatever. It's painfully obvious that it's quiet. and it's not doing well. And then people judge you based on not what they're listening to or not how they're reacting, but they judge you on how other people are reacting.

But I say to people that, you know, in halfway through any of our seasons, we have over one billion clicks globally on social media. Wow. So whether that few thousand people, people in the room or the four of us sitting at the desk are giving you the reaction that you want. You play it like you're fucking killing. And I'm telling you that your career will be regardless of what we say, regardless.

Yeah. Your career, anybody who has been on our show and said from AGT, because obviously no comedian has won yet, is doing better for it. Their ticket price went up. more people that people that wouldn't have seen them have seen them so you grow your audience there's no reason not to do it and i'm the advocate for um the comedian you know this year even for season 21 you know usually the way people get on is they could send in a tape or they show up live you know someplace and stand in front of a table like this in front of a a producer and show them their wares which is not the best and and this year

I opened up the laugh factory and I invited the producers from AGT down and said, watch people, watch us in our natural habitat. And they did. And we have some great comedy. Not making them do like, oh, go be a tour guy and make it funny and all they're out of their element and all these challenges and stuff. Good for you. No.

And so we have, I think there's some comedians this season that have a real chance. But here's the other thing that people don't understand. You know, when you watch on AGT, I'll watch like somebody. hanging upside down singing opera. Well, they light themselves on fire. And then the next person comes out. And it's just a comic talking about how his underpants ride up. It seems like there was so much more.

But to actually come up with something, write the script, create the character, and deliver it is so that is as much fear as the guy who's two stories in the air with no net trying to do a flip. And it takes a lot. And I don't know that people appreciate it. But to add to that, like all the hurdles and hoops you have to jump through to get on a show to get the yes to get on that stage at AGT from the executives and the you, et cetera, et cetera. Like you're putting yourself through not just this performance in front of an audience in the globe, but rounds of possible failure all the way up to that every single time. And you're saying like coming up to a table with no audience or anything, like man, that's, that's a tough thing.

It's a great example of, I think that's what life is. Life is a, you know, a series of incredibly what seems like insurmountable hurdles and how do you get over those and how do you cope with that and what do you do? And, you know, the only reason, the only way to make it is don't quit and just keep doing it. That's the difference. one thing isn't better than the other. One thing is that it's all subjective. And not winning it doesn't mean the, if you go back and look at Star Search back in the day, the second place person, they seem to always have a bigger career in the end than the person who won that competition.

There's a lot of second place finishers that really blew up. Because I think in life, it doesn't have anything. Well, it has to do with comedy. I think that people wait for shit to happen to them and to come their way and opportunity. and opportunities. And then there are other people who just keep moving forward regardless. And rejection, I mean, it's kind of blown up a little more, maybe in show business. But I think rejection and getting no or not making it or not making the sale or not being

recognized or not getting the promotion or not getting the job or not getting the girl or not getting the whatever you're not getting, you know, not passing the grade, whatever. That's all through life. the difference between the people who get further are just the people who keep getting kicked in the nuts and walking forward. That's right. You know, and even at this point in my career, I'm an old guy who's been doing this for a long time. I can't tell you how the amount of nose that I get on a daily basis.

I can't even imagine. But that's because I'm, my wife is always saying to me, like, what do you need that for? What are you doing that for? Because I'm always doing something. I'm always pursuing something. I always have an idea. I always want to try something and it's nose. And whether it was like we were talking to before the mics were live, you know,

you asked me if I threw out a first pitch. And I've done that many times. In this past World Series, I asked to just throw out the second pitch of the third inning. And I got to know. But I don't let that bother me. I'm going to pursue. You think you're laughing. Listen, I know.

If I turn the TV all, we'll have. fucking day and I see you start out. I'm not going to... The second bitch of the third eating up and a shit. But I've made it, I've made it like a goal. Yeah, I get it. So I'm just going to keep doing it. And you know why I'm going to do it more? Because they keep

fucking saying no. And because it sounds ridiculous. And I think what I do for a living and how I've made a living and what I continue to do and what I'm doing right now for a living and where I live and how my life is is fucking ridiculous. It's not, it's not

on paper. This makes no fucking sense. to anybody who grows up anywhere, you know? You just, everything I've ever been punished for, expelled for, gotten in trouble for is what I get paid for. So there is no, and what I like to do, I think a lot of people like to play it safe, but I like to push that envelope. It's funny that you ask me that.

Now I'm noticing you got a picture of you throwing at a ball. That's why I asked you because you had the hat on too. And I was like, you were looking over there and I thought. Oh, I didn't see. Where did you throw out a ball? That was Camden Yards. Oh, wow. In Baltimore.

Wow. I was just in Baltimore. I love Baltimore. I do too. Yeah. I stayed at that Pendry. Did you ever stay there? I haven't yet, but that's the, I had that choice or the four seasons.

No, I usually picked the four seasons. I'm from Toronto. That's where the four seasons is from. I hadn't stayed at. Probably the nicest, coolest hotel I ever stayed at. And that little area right there by the wharf. Oh, my God. And the seafood that you can get right there.

Dude, you're making me homesick right now. I was just there. I talked about, what were you doing there? What are you doing there? What would be you not to say? Shows or? What do you mean? I don't know. Maybe you were shooting something there and you don't want to say. I don't have any secrets. I was, what I do is I go to Baltimore and I see how many shellfish I can jam up my ass.

No, there's nothing I would be doing that I wouldn't tell you about. I was doing a live event. I did a, I think it was a corporate date in Baltimore. But I don't know what I don't know what it was. But I just, I just remember it was beautiful. We're staying by the poor. I used to, I've been to Baltimore. I used to play. Is it Pierce Six? Yeah. So I used to play there in the 80s. I saw Carl in the 80s. I. I used to do all those venues and play there. And then my buddy created a show. And I went there and did an episode called Homicide Life on the Street. I was just about to ask you, stop right now. Listen to me.

You did Homicide Life on the Street. I watched every episode. And I'm pretty sure I remember that. Do you know the Pendry where you stayed? Yeah. That was the headquarters. That was the headquarters of homicide. That was the actual shooting set that you would have been on if you went in the offices.

No, I was in a. Cubicles. I was in a, I played, I think I played a, like a, a crazy designer. I played like a, like kind of a very flamboyant interior designer for somebody's bar and they actually used a real bar or something there. But I went there because I'm friends with Tom Fontana. I started on a show. Didn't start.

I was already taken off as a comedian, but my first acting gigs was on a show called St. Elsewhere. Yeah. I started with Denzel. So Tom Fontana, who created that with Barry Levinson, started his first writing job was on St. Elsewhere. So then he moved to Baltimore and they did they did that there. One of my favorite shows of all time. I just hung with him in Baltimore and I would play Pier 6. I remember being there. My daughter is 42 now, but she was like two. Can you go across the water

to the aquarium or something like that? Water taxis. Yeah. To the harbor in the aquarium. Yeah. But I go back, let me just, you going back to St. Elsewhere. I just want to just give you some props here for a second because I grew up as a fan back when you had the beautiful Currub. early locks. And I will never forget the special with the Howie person. I'll never forget that. The glove, obviously. And then one of the things that these are etched in my brain, Howie Mandel, the fucking Mike falling and you, yes, anding it and getting down on the fucking floor and talking to it, that instead of picking it. You know what that it was? That one is one I remember. You know, Crowdwork, I was always, just because I didn't have an act.

But I didn't, I didn't have much of it. Like, they would do that. And then I didn't, I didn't know how to play because I didn't know how to. So I would answer because I was just in his fucking world. But I would do it. But anyway, the Mike fell, it was a young comedian special. And I was doing that. I was at the Roxy.

And I got reminded of it the other night. So on the young comedian special, that young comedian special, it was me. Jerry Seinfeld, Richard Lewis and Harry Anderson. and it was hosted by the Smothers Brothers, and we did it at the Roxy. And that show launched my career. The next day, I wasn't even a comedian, but it was George Carlin's wife that used to cast it, Barbara. And she cast me, put me there, she liked me. And I did that show.

And the next day, I could sell like 10,000 tickets. Wow. Yeah, it changed my life, that show. And then you have Bobby's world. Like you. That's the 90s. But long before everybody else was doing this, you've been doing this. This is pre-internet and everything.

Oh, I've done to do it. children you've done it all i've invented everything i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying i'm always have an idea for something i'm like saying elsewhere here's the comedy specials here's bobby's world here's all in a gt you would reinvent yourself with that well i didn't invent a gt but then i had no idea that was a thing uh i didn't want to be a game show host when they offered me deal or no deal at that time the game show hosts were not in the wheelhouse of stand-up comedy but then i did it and that thing took off. And then they, after that, the next thing that happened after that was Jeff Fox, where they got, Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? And then they started hiring comics on

Family Feud. At first, it was Louis and then, and then Steve and then Drew Carey, got prices, right? Yeah. But before that, there was no comedian. So if the comedians are watching who are hosting shows, can I look into that camera? You're welcome. See? Yeah, right. You're welcome. I am responsible for everybody's success. And back then when you have a thing like Bobby's world, are you going out with that? Or at that point, are you big enough that people are coming to you and saying, Hey, do you have any ideas or that?

I'm still not there. I'm still not there. So then people aren't coming up to me with ideas. But the Bobby's world was I did Bobby in my act. I always did that voice in my act. And then before that. And then I started getting voice jobs. I had a friend that was connected to Jim Henson,

and he got me a show called Muppet Babies. And I was Skeeter on Muppet Babies, which is the same voice. And then I got my buddies who were from Chicago, Jim, Jim, Help Me, Rich, Jim Stahl and Jim Fisher. They were from Second City. and they got a deal. They got a development deal for Fox Children's. They were going to start a Saturday morning thing.

And they came to me and they go, you know, you do that great character at the club. And it was filthy. Bobby was filthy. Bobby was just a voice. But I would say like horrible things. And then I had done it as Skeeter and I did the Gremlin's movies. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm Gizmo, the first little fuzzy one that got wet in same voice.

Like, kakabok, right. Wait, the original? The original? The original? No. You're the original Gizmo? I'm Gizmo. Dude, I did not.

Of all, I'm such. Let's do some fucking research. I'm embarrassed that I don't know that one. Yeah. That Jew from the original. Dude, I'm telling my daughter. Did you just say that Jew from the original? I'm telling my daughter, like, she sees Gizmo and she's like, yeah, it's cute.

I'm like, you don't get it. Like, what year would have that been? 84? Okay, I was going to say five. Well, I think it came out in 85. I did it in 85. 84 or 83 and then 87. Grimlins 2 came out.

You'd have to Google it. I don't know. Christa! Google! Google. I show her the trailer. Oh, there it is. She's Googling.

And I tell her, I'm like, you don't get it, though. You're in a world now where it's already out and populated. I said, we didn't know what the fuck was in that box. That was the whole thing. You go to the movie to see what the hell was in that. They're doing one now. And then are they really? Chris Columbus is writing it right now.

We have the same agent. So I just said, I'm here. I would love to get a small part in it so that I interact with the actual. I don't know if they'll use me as the voice. You know, a lot of people can do it. But if they use me as the voice, I'd like to get a small part in it so that I can interact. What did you look up? Kirsten gave up.

She has ADHD. She got an answer. She was looking something up. I could see there. If you can't see this. Well, yeah, it wasn't. There's a screen right here. I yelled to his producer.

Could you look it up? I saw the Google screen behind me. Kirsten is like, that's why I can't be a pilot, Kirsten, because you're like me. 84. June 8, 1984, it opened. So I did it in 83. 83. Mm-hmm.

And how old are you in 83, though? You're 20s? Really going to make me do math? I mean, you're 70 now. And by the way, you look. 20s. 20s. Fucking amazing.

I'm bored of 55. You're a young man doing Gizmo. Yeah. Did you audition for it or was it just a heard that voice? Gizmo, I did. So I had done my buddy. Frank Welker, who is the Mel Blank, like he's everybody that you hear. He told me that they were, that Spielberg was producing a movie and they were doing it.

And you do voices and you do. It was really funny. So I went to the audition and it was in a building like we're in right now. I don't know. I won't say where you are, but there's other things here. This is not just a production facility. We turned it into that here. Yeah, but I think there's kind of a happy ending place.

That's the beauty. Anyway, but it was building like this. And it turns out I didn't know that, that there was an OBGYN. There was somebody, a casting person rented an office like this. And then right next door was a lady doctor, a doctor for ladies. And you're auditioning for Gizmo next door to that? I didn't know. I go into the place and somebody wasn't having a good checkup.

You know, I hear like a woman going like a, oh, oh, I don't know if they were, she was having a, like, having a biopsy done or a pap smear or something. And I'm thinking, that doesn't seem like what they're going for here. But I went in, I auditioned, and they gave me the part. How quickly did you know? In about a week. Wow. Yeah. That's fast.

They showed you a little, they showed us, you know, the movie was shot. So it's already shot. So I saw the little puppet a little. Oh, you saw them before. Everybody. No, other people saw him first. I mean, the people who made the movie. The mass, the masses.

You knew it was in that box. I saw him in, in, in post-production. Yeah. So they let me, and Frank, Frank got me the job, Frank Welker. And then I was, I got to be some of the other gremlins, too, like in the movie theaters when they're fighting. Oh, yeah. Because I do that. I remember like, I do a lot of, la-blot-blot-blum-brow.

I did a lot of a background sounds. But in 1990, my two friends who were Second City guys, and you've seen them in a lot of things, they said they have a development deal for a Saturday morning cartoon. We want to develop Bobby. And I said, Bobby is filthy. And I know nothing about Saturday morning. And they said, well, let's just do it. And then we sat down.

And I had had my first child at that point. And they had kids. And we started telling, like, funny stories about ourselves. and things that were happening to our kids. And we just wrote those. And then Bobby, and then things were going on. It would be for Rugrats, right? Rugrats was, yeah.

They've said that they were inspired by my show. And so the things that were going on in our mind, as opposed to what was happening. I mean, the first episode was going to Aunt Ruth's. And we all had a story about having to go to a grandmother's house or an aunt's house that always stunk. We always smelled it. Could always stink.

Could always stink. But we realized that our Saturday morning kind of vibe. We won awards. We got nominated for Emmys and stuff like that. We told true stories. They were all true stories that either happened to me, my kids or their kids. Oh, that's great. And that went on for nine years.

We were like the biggest selling happy meal for a while. But I've always ended up in things that I didn't plan on ending up. I didn't plan. Nobody's more surprised, thrilled and excited to be doing what I'm doing today than me. I just love hearing that. I love that you're not some cramogen who's just burnt by all of it and over all of it. I can tell you genuinely mean it. I can see you're happy.

Your energies. Well, and happy is another thing. I try to maintain this is my work and what I do is my coping skill. I've been really open about my mental health, which is a struggle. And it's always been a struggle. And when you come from my generation, it's, you know, people didn't address it and there's a stigma attached to it and I didn't get diagnosed

till I was in my 40s but I realized that as busy as I am and even if it's getting kicked in the nuts and knock down just just keep you know like Wayne Gretzky says you miss every shot you don't take you know I just spend my day just taking shots my life just taking shots I'm always just shooting well I've heard you mention ADHD which I'd like to talk about in a sec but I did know you had OCD. And the first time, I'd sort of heard you had it, but I grew up also watching Stern. And I'm wrong a lot. But tell me if this memory is even close to it. I feel like you're on an episode there, as you were often. But this one time, I guess a guy was coming in to maybe fart the national anthem or something. And he accidentally shit. And they kicked them out.

And then I saw Howard look at you, look at the door. And he said, oh, you're trying to figure out how you're going to get out of here because that guy touched the door. And then I believe he told everyone in there if they opened that door for you, he was going to fire him. Am I even in the ballpark? Yeah, you're in the ballpark. The truth is the guy was from, he was touching his dick. He didn't shit. But he was touching his dick and then he left. And then he saw that I was eyeing the door. And I couldn't, I asked them to help me with the door. They said, they're not going to help me with the door. I tried to reach it with a tissue. I tried to take a tissue. He said, no. And then I started hyperventilating and I thought I was going to pass out and then I said to him you know and I thought

we were in a commercial I said to him Howard honestly I've just been diagnosed with this thing called you know obsessive compulsive disorder and they've given me medication I'm on medication but I feel like I'm going to die now you got to open the door you're going to call 911 so he opened the door and then I walked out in the hall and they were continuing talking and I realized the speakers in the hallway they were still on the air I had no idea they were on the air and that devastation just washed over me in a second because being who I am from as old as I am, but that was in my 40s. But what I'm saying is being a child of the 50s, I was devastated because I thought, oh my God, I just told somebody that I have a mental health problem.

Number one, my kids are going to be humiliated. We'll probably have to change our names and go on a witness protection program, take them out of school, you know. And I was so, I was so, I was so distraught and or I'm going to have to, and nobody's ever going to give me a job. You know, when you sign on to do television show, you have a medical checkup and there's millions of dollars worth of insurance who's going to hire somebody who's just admitted that they have mental health problems. It's not, you know, I didn't. But also you're, you're saying that you had just recently been diagnosed officially with it right by, I see, I didn't know. I just assumed this was something you knew about in your 20s or 30. So that was all new to you.

I was giving, it was hell to live with me. You know, I had, I tell them as funny. stories now, but they're not funny. I built a, we'll call it a guest house, but it was really a Howie house. If my kid ever sneezed or coughed, I would move into another house on the property, which I built, which makes for a funny, entertaining story, but it was hard to maintain normalcy around me, so whether if I was hiding from the kids, and I made it seem like it was somewhat normal, like, listen, I got to be on the road. If I catch it cold, I still got to go out on the road, so I'm going to go here and if they touch things and I always had hand sanitizers before there was Purell and I had a doctor, a friend of mine who was a surgeon who gave me the wash. I had at

my side and I was always scrubbing down the kids and my wife finally gave me an ultimatum that if I didn't go get checked or go get help that she would leave. She would take the kid. So I got diagnosed and lo and behold, it is something that somebody recognized so I thought that was good and they had some answers on how to cope. So I took that, but I was still, when I got diagnosed as much as I felt relief knowing that maybe I can get some help and some coping skills and life wouldn't feel as miserable as it felt, I was embarrassed to say that I had a mental health problem. And then when it accidentally came out on the air, I thought I'm even more devastated. And I was like ready to run into traffic there in New York. And as I came downstairs and onto the teeming street of Manhattan,

And some guy came up to me in my periphery and just said, are you Howie Mandela? And I said, yeah. And he goes, were you just on Howard? I go, yeah. And thinking, oh, my God, this is the end. And then he went, me too. And I went, what do you mean? Me too?

What does that even mean? And he goes, I have obsessive compulsive. And it's so, it was so nice to hear you talk about it. That was the first time I had ever heard anybody or connect with anybody that has a similar situation. And then I started getting mail, not email, that was before the internet. I started getting mail. And then people started, and it's like when I hear somebody else say, you know, I have OCD or I have, you know, I just on my podcast this week, I have Billy Bob Thornton, you know, Billy Bob, who I'm a huge fan of, gave me a call. I got a call from him. And we don't know each other. And I was so excited because I'm a fan of Landman. And I thought, oh, great, maybe they want, they remember that I act and they want me. And then he just said that he was.

He was kind of moved by he saw me. I became a spokesperson for a company called No CD. And he saw that ad. And he goes, I just want to tell you, you know, that's, it's great to see that you're out there and outspoken. And I have this too. And I said, come on the podcast. And it's just so kind of comforting to know that you're not alone. You know, he suffers and has suffered his whole life.

And, you know, the best, the first step is to be open about it and talk about it. And, you know, if you know somebody or if it's yourself, there is help out there. And there is, there are coping skills. And one of many of my coping skills besides therapy and medication is distraction and distraction by virtue of even doing this podcast. You know, just doing something. I don't need to do something. Well, I do. Mentally need to always have something to do.

So I each and every day I get up and go from place to place and try to be as productive as possible until I want to fall over at the end of the night and try to get as much sleep as possible, which isn't a lot. And then I wake up and then I'm busy again. And whether I'm busy on social media or, you know, shooting AGT, season 21 or doing a podcast or doing one. I did a podcast already this morning. You did. I shot one for me. And then I had a meeting. But like I've already done when you, I don't look.

at my calendar because that's also overwhelming, but I know what I'm going to do. I always know where I'm going to be like three hours ahead of where I am. You know, I'll go tape a show later on today. I'll take, I got another show to tape. But so that's it. But if I look at my schedule, because the people that work with me know that I just want to just fill, fill up my calendar. Just fill it up. I don't want a day off. I don't want time, you know, or if I take the day off, and it's got to be a planned day off. Like it's got a little, let's go on a vacation with my family. Let me go here.

Let's book a lunch and then, you know, just not sitting doing nothing. I'm not good with myself and I'm not good with quiet. Can we go back to the beginning then? Obviously, you don't get diagnosed so you say you're almost 40. But when do you know, hey, I got something going on here? No, I never knew. You never did. Did you have rituals or anything like that?

I have rituals and horrible thoughts. and it is a fucking nightmare. So it wasn't just a germ thing. No, no, no, no intrusive dark thoughts, the inability to the circular thoughts that I couldn't get out of checking the lock on a door for over an hour, for over an hour, for doing, like just a fucking mess, just a mess. And did I know that it was a diagnosable thing? No, and this is what I said to, Billy Bob told me the same thing.

You just think like, this is fucking life is hard. It's just hard. It's just hard. It's not like I have these weird thoughts, but, you know, I don't want to share with anybody what this is. I don't want to tell anybody what this is. And I just be quiet and try to get from place to place. Because I also have, you know, ADHD, as I told you, I have anxiety. I have depression.

I have everything. I would like to, you know, it's not a gift. go they zero CD you think it's helped you know no it's not a if it was a gift I'd like to return it but it's it's just uh it's just uh I you know thank good enough for sitting there and saying this because there's so many people out there that see Howie Mandel on AGT or wherever and they think this guy's fucking got it all together and he's feeling perfect and his life's probably fantastic over there I think my life is fantastic but they also think you got no fucking problems and that's the part it's like I don't think there's anybody a lot listen well

I mean, you know what I mean. This is a lot. This is the thing. Well, yeah, but I think life is a lot for a lot of people. I'm an advocate now for talking about mental health. I don't think anybody, you know, sometimes when you talk about OCD or these rituals or all these dark thoughts that can go in, then people go, I don't have that. But you know what?

You will have nobody. There's a great T-shirt or saying from the time I can remember, shit happens. There's nobody that's going to go through life without shit happening. and most people don't look for help. I always say I hope we take care of our mental health, the way we take care of our dental health. You know, life is not perfect. You know, people die.

Relationships and workloads are heavy and sometimes not manageable. Sometimes you don't even have work so you can't afford shit. Sometimes you, for whatever reason, you don't even know why you can't cope with your everyday life. You just sit there and you want to cry or you want it. You don't understand why you're depressed. A lot of times you know why you get diagnosed or somebody else gets diagnosed with something horrible. These are all normal things that happen in everybody's life regardless of how well you're known, how much money you have.

It doesn't matter. That's just part of humanity. So the fact that we try and don't subscribe to taking care of ourselves and giving ourselves some coping skills even before it happens or we know it happens or your own dealing with your own mortality, you know, no matter how good you got it, as my friend Sharon Osborne says, you know, who's the richest, most famous guy in the graveyard? We're all the same. We're all just that dirt in a hole.

So the truth of the matter is you have to figure out how to cope. And there are things in place that allow coping skills instead of it just coming up on you. And a lot of the shit just comes up on you without you being ready or prepared. But if you're not ready and prepared, a lot of people just go down to the depths of hell in their own minds and still don't think about getting help. I say this so much. And it's always the same. But if you're in an office in a cubicle and you say, my. backs out, everybody will tell you about their chiropractor or if you got a truth

date, they'll tell you about your dentist. If you just sit there and you can't function for no reason that you can, you know, think of, but you start crying or whatever, nobody really says you better go to a psychiatrist or you better go to a therapist. And if you say, I just need an hour, I got to go see my psychiatrist outside of here in L.A. in New York and a couple of other big metropolitan areas, it's not, it's not really accepted. That's why. I love this company that I work with, no CD. It's an app. So everybody has access everywhere.

It's fully insured. I'm not telling it. I'm just telling you that that's what I loved about it. So if I have some thoughts about how I'm coping, I could just download this app, mostly insured and get schedule something where I can get maybe some telehealth right there or diagnosed or even therapy at any time I need it. anywhere. People don't even know where to go. But the first thing, like when you have a podcast like this, the first tool is the ability to talk, even talking like this is therapeutic for me.

Hopefully somebody listening says that was good for them, you know, but. Tell me how, excuse me, as a man who's dealt with this your whole life, how are you, did you, is it true, you brought sheets and things? Like, how are you traveling on the road for stand up and personal you're out there, your own plane. Right, the dichotomy, the dichotomy between what I do and what I have to do and how I live my lives. But then I realize, you know, a big part of coping. You said you still, you do that though.

You still, you do. Yeah. Like I'll remove the, I remove the comforter. I know, it's disgusting. And I carry a black light. You know, you can get it. I'm like, everything's like a crime scene. I'd be terrified to turn it on.

I would be. Well, why carry it? I, yeah. But anyway, yeah, no, I still deal with. you know, meet and greets, you know, I don't want to shake hands, but, and I don't. I do, but I'm just saying, you know, the joy I get out of what I'm doing versus what I have to, there's something therapeutic about, the biggest form of therapy for OCD, or the biggest, most successful is exposure therapy. So just by virtue of what I do, I'm exposing myself.

But it's not comfortable. And, you know, for somebody who could, you know, I understand, you know, one of the most famous people that was afflicted with this was Howard Hughes, who as productive as he was and smart as he was ended his life at the end of his life. He was naked in the fetal position peeing into bottles and locked in a room. That doesn't sound so bad to me. And I'm pretty, there are times when it's really bad that I'm close to that. So, you know, I get it. Yeah. And I fight it all the time.

When do you realize you also have ADHD at the same time? Are you diagnosed with both at the same time? Mm-hmm. You were. Yeah. Yeah. And can you ask you what's the difference for you? From what?

What's the, you said OCD. I always, I'm wrong a lot and ignorant. I always thought it was a germ thing, but you're saying, no, I'd have intrusive thoughts. Your ADHD has that effect. No, OCD is upset. obsessive compulsive disorder. It's the inability to move. A thought comes in and whether it's a negative dark thought or whether it's the thought of you having some germ on your hand that you want to get rid of or whether it's the thought of you locking your door or whether it's the thought of worry.

And it could be thoughts that anybody can identify with. But a person that doesn't have OCD, that's why I hate when people go, I have a little OCD. It keeps going and it's like a broken record. you can't stop it, even though you know, listen, I'm okay. I've washed my hands 30 times already. I'm going to ask a stupid question. How does a person who obsesses over things have an attention deficit? That's, I don't, does what I'm asking make sense? It's really hard. It's really hard for me to focus for any length of time on the amount of time. It reared its ugly head in school mostly when you think back on it. Like it is kind of ridiculously insane that our curriculum right now for absolutely everybody

is to sit from 9 o'clock in the morning until 3 o'clock in the afternoon at a fucking desk and listen to 99.9% of the shit that they don't even tell you how this fits into your life. So to have ADHD on top of that, I couldn't even hear what was happening in the classroom. I can't sit still. And even to this day, my wife will say to me maybe once or twice a day, do you have to pee? Because I don't. I'm just moving. I can't focus.

This is good that we have a chair that swivels here. You know, it's really hard for me to sit even for this amount of time. And it's hard. And I have an office of a big warehouse here in the Valley's a production office. I don't have an office. You know, I spend the whole day. I just wander from. room to room and place to place and I'm up on my feet and I just I can't it's hard for me to just just

and that's why sitting in a cockpit just you know being really focused and watching the ultimeter and watching this and watching all the gauges and just focusing right here and right here and right here is really hard after about 20 minutes and there's no getting up and walking around or doing or swiveling or going you know I don't I want to look at that you know so that's why Tesla has been a savior for me because, you know, I just plug in the address and sit back and Elon takes me there. So then would it be fair to say maybe you've never done the same set A to Z in the sense that like how do you focus on an hour set? My set is pretty. So obviously after 50 years now in the business, I have a plethora of material that I know and I and I write notes and things

like that. Where's my phone? Did I lose my phone? Rich, did I not bring my phone? It just sucks my phone. What? Oh, shit. Oh, there it is.

Oh, there it is. I just realized in the middle of this I got, but I, what was a question? The question about how you was an ADHD. It is. You just witnessed. You just witnessed. I wasn't trying to be funny. I wasn't trying to do anything.

but welcome to Howie Mandel. Oh, God. But I have material and I could jump around not always the same order. I look, you know, I think a lot of people do crowd work. I've always done crowdwork because crowdwork, I'd be doing something and then somebody would yell out something and then I'd yell to them and I would start a conversation and that's it. And then I could get back into the flow of whatever my act is. And then.

So I always sort of felt natural to you with that then, huh? Yeah, because I pulled it, pulled my attention. Yeah. You know, and it's whereas, you know, a lot of people just want to do their act. Even if I just want to do my act, as soon as you yell out, my brain is off my act. So then I have to find my way back to my act. So I, until I found my way back to my act, I talk. It's really bad that I have this in my act now because now I want to scroll.

Well, you have two things going on. Three. Three. What's the other one? ADHD, OCD. Hmm? What's the third one? Depression.

Oh, and the depression, too. Anxiety. Anxiety. When are you at your worst? Let me ask you that first. When do these all collide together? Is there a time where you're like, hey, I need to check out? But it's not a time.

It's like I don't know what triggers it. I'm afraid. That's why I don't shake hands. Not because I believe and intellectually I could shake your hand and not get sick or whatever. I'm so afraid of being triggered because that spiral is a fucking dark hole. That's a fucking hell that you just got to. How were you doing COVID? Oh, it was horrible.

So I freaked the fuck out. Freaked out. And I started taking, I couldn't sleep. So I started taking gummies. And then I took a ton of gummies. And then I took gummies and smoked. And then I took gummies smoked and drank until I was unconscious and my wife is going to take me a hospital. So since the end of COVID, I've been sober.

I don't even have beer. I can't have a little bit of anything. So I was just, I was just even with, yeah, it was horrible. But, but now I'm, this is it. I take Diet Coke. When are you at your best then? When do you at your best then? When do you feel like?

like I got this today. I know it's probably, you don't ever have that moment. No, because I distract myself. I don't think about, I don't think about how I'm doing or what I'm, this is the most I've thought about it. I just distract myself and I do whatever the, the, the business at hand is, you know? If it's doing a podcast and talking to you, I'll answer your questions.

I'll promote AGT season 21. 21. Yeah. And I'll, I'll, you know, no CD. No CD. I wasn't even promoting that. but that's a real, it's been a savior for a lot of people. I want people to know about that.

Yeah. And then, and then, you know, and just do that. But if you sit and ruminate on how you're doing, I think then you're calling attention to how you're doing. So ruminating on whatever could possibly trigger me and how I've been is not the answer. So not that I know you want to talk about it, but I kind of can talk about it and think about the words that I need to articulate whatever I've been. I'm articulating without really ruminating on exactly how that feels and what that is. Because I can also, I can spiral. And are these genetic?

I'm not a doctor. I don't know. They've never told you, though. I think there's studies that say it's genetic. I'm not one to talk about it. I could just tell you how I feel. But do you remember seeing anything with your mom or dad around the house or do you have siblings that maybe saw?

My kids, I have two kids that are pretty obviously and have been. diagnosed with OCD. I have three kids. I have three kids and three grandchildren, but two of them are, I think, have this, you know, and, and, but we're pretty open about going, they've talked to therapists and I do a, I do a podcast with my daughter. She's my co-host. She's, no, she's great, she's brilliant, she was a teacher and she's a mom of two and, but I gave her a gift, I guess. I mean, I am blown away because just, you know, I don't have either of these. I've got my own shit. But to go through just day-to-day life, it sounds like hell for a lot of people that struggle with this.

And then to jump into the world you have and to be successful at it too. I have a little bit of it. You know, I like everything in order. I'm pristinkety or I like it neat. You don't have a little bit. I wish I had a little bit. It is fucking torture. And it is and, and, you know, it's ebbs and flows.

You know, right now in life, it's flowing. But it ebbs. Eb is the down swing, right? Mm-hmm. I think so. When do you, and you don't even know when it's coming? No. No.

No. If I did, I'd get out of the way. But can you recognize it, though, now? Like you are, I know. That's the key to, that would be the first step to getting out of that spiral. is to say, hey, this is what it is, you know, identify it and then deal with it. Just say, oh, this is this is, you know, this is, you want to know what it is. That's as it goes with anything that hurts, bothers or, you know, is a problem.

You need to identify it. Well, you said something about the Billy Bob thing too. Like, I didn't, it's very interesting to me that when you're, when you think like this, there isn't a part of you that goes, I know this isn't normal. You just think it is. And man, life's fucking hard. No, no, what's fucking horrible is having the intellectual wherewithal to know that this is not normal. Okay, you do that.

Totally, but you can't control yourself. I see. So like when you're going back to the door for the 80th time or the eighth time, and you know you've checked the door seven times, I'm not oblivious, but I can't stop myself the word compulsion. I'm obsessing and it's a compulsion. And even though I know I've checked the door, I've checked. check the door. I check the door. I can't stop checking the door. I can't stop checking the door until I'll smash my fist against the door and maybe break a knuckle or break the skin open. So there's blood. So maybe that'll stop me because I know I, but then I think that now I broke the door.

I might have just punched the door. Yeah. I'm going to run the lock. So I'm going to try again. And now I've overshaking it. You can always find stuff. But you can't. I do it like three or four times a night. I was worried about myself. But you're like, man, go fuck yourself. No, no. When it stops your life when you can't show up someplace okay it becomes it overtakes whatever when you're in it it overtakes there's nothing else you can't function there have there ever been things you you had to cancel because yeah meetings things with my kids missed planes my daughter we were on our way to a family vacation and my daughter crossed her legs in the backseat of a of a of a limo and the bottom of her shoe hit just a little part of my calf on on my pants

And it triggered me. And I had to go home. I couldn't get on the plane and we were late. We had to get another flight, you know, and they'll tell you about it. It's not, not pretty. Now, that's probably the last thing that happened before my wife goes. I'm not going to do this anymore. Okay.

All right. So it was affecting a lot of things, even down. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny because even now, like somebody will, I'll go meet somebody and they'll extend their hand and I go like this and they'll go, sorry, sorry. I forgot. I forgot. I should know.

And I always say, don't be sorry. Nobody has to live in my world My world's a fucked up world My coping skills is I got to figure out How to live in everybody's world Right I have to work

Don't feel bad because you don't You're not fitting into my craziness So growing up in high school Did you date? Were you? No, I didn't have friends I didn't have friends

I was 4 foot 10 You know I didn't have I didn't have people who You know liked me And because part of my ADHD and all the other stuff, I'm incredibly impulsive, which has helped me in comedy maybe, but I don't think of what I'm doing.

So I would do like outrageous things or because I couldn't sit anymore, I would stand up, you know, and make noises and people would laugh at me, not with me. And because I didn't have friends, it wasn't like I said, hey, watch this, watch what I'm going to do, which would make more sense. It was just like I was a spectacle. And I got thrown out of three different high schools. I have no. Damn.

Did you really? Yeah. I don't have a GED. It's only a four-year fucking name. Welcome to me. But they said I had, I was a behavioral, you know, disruptor. Are you saying Howie Mandel doesn't have a high school diploma or a GED? No.

Also good for you. Yeah. Also good for you. Non-achieving. I don't know that school is important. I hear you. I, my daughter's mom and I disagree about college these days. Trust me on that.

Well, here's what I will. give college. I think there is something to be said for getting out on your own and learning the social skills and the independence and all that and everything else going on and being around there and getting out of your bubble. But to think that college is going to get you further ahead once you leave college, college is a great way to postpone your life. You know, I don't think, you know, Aside from, I take that back. If you know. That's what we talk.

Judge, lawyer, doctor, whatever. Something specific that has a technical skill, then that's where you go to learn it. But if you're taking, you know, communications or something like that, you're not going to, it's not going to get you another dollar more. Even if, you know, you could learn right now just carrying this, you could learn how to code. You could learn how to use, you know, AI. You could do whatever you want to do. And you will be ahead by four years of anybody else that goes to college. And the fact that they overcharge, everybody wants these labeled colleges, you know.

They want to go to Yale and Harvard and spend all this money, put themselves in debt. It's not even worth. That's why we're getting less and less doctors because it just costs too much. And it's too hard. And we really need to do. something about this. And we don't learn and we don't learn. Forget about fucking college. I was saying to my wife, you know, it's amazing. I kind of made sure that I was supported business is a big part of my life. You know, I'm in, I like real estate and I like businesses and I have kind of an entrepreneurial

spirit. And because Monopoly, like was one of my favorite games, I loved it and I kind of taught you something. And the fact that we don't learn from second grade or third grade math, why don't you teach math as far as dollars. Thank you. So that there's, it's experiential. Yes. You know, if I see five and five is ten, so what does that mean? Well, I'd rather know that if I have a nickel, if I have five cents and I have five cents, I have ten cents. And with ten cents, I could buy this. With five cents, I can only buy this. And then all of a sudden, it becomes more interesting to somebody rather than just these numbers and memorizing, you know, five and five is ten or the five times table. You're just memorizing it. But it doesn't mean anything. Nothing.

means anything. So we don't teach economy. We don't teach our, we don't teach coding. We don't teach anything that has to do. Maybe when you get to college and you have to make a decision at 16 years old or 17 years old where you have to pick a major, which is ridiculous to pick the path that you want at 16 or 17 that you're going to have. It's fucked up. So you know what? The best thing that ever happened to me is I was thrown out and I was forced to leave and do something and pay my own rent. And that's what happened. And I bought a car and I, you know, I ended up raising money, I became a salesman, which is basically what I do now. You know, and I don't believe in college.

Every single thing you're saying. Let me get your wife on the phone. No, we're not married. It's my daughter's mom. However, I want to go back to this question. So why can't I talk to her? Well, you said wife. That was the only thing I was correcting.

You could definitely talk to it. Okay, because she hates you, not me. Right. So during your high school tenure, not one teacher ever said, hey, Come here. Not one, not one recognized anything. Not in the 60s or early 70s. You're talking about a whole different time.

Yeah. You know, when you do things like I did, it was just ridiculously. Some of them are funny. They're funny stories right now, but they were jaw-droppingly shocking and horrible. Throwing chocolate bars in the pool so it looked like people shit in the pool and then diving. Yeah. And this is before a caddy. I was going to say a caddy shack.

Way before that. Yeah. If you look at 1979, you look at make me laugh, you can see me talking about doing it in high school. Oh, yeah? And that's years before Caddyshack. But when people would gather around the pool at the end of the day to see all the shit in the pool, I would dive in and come up within my mouth. This didn't make you. Shut up.

How old are you doing? I was like 14, 15. But, but, but, but. He would come up with it in your fucking. But everybody would go, oh, fuck gross. It's the grossest guy. You know, you want to fit it? I didn't have a friend that went, oh, that's really cool.

Yeah. So just the lone kid with no friends was doing that. For yourself. Last question before. I want you to promote everything again, please. Is advice you're giving to 16-year-old Howie Mandel? Oh, don't worry. Be happy.

It's the song, but it's also don't worry. You know, I think that the best advice I give everybody and give myself is don't think. Thinking is overrated. Don't fucking think. Just do. I think Nike says that. But the point is that I think instinctually, everything I've done out of instinct has worked out.

And even if it didn't work out, I got something so great out of it, whether it was a lesson or whatever. But you can always think yourself out of, giving yourself a reason to not do it. I mean, as a kid like that, growing up in Toronto, thinking nobody's in show business, thinking that one day I'll go to California

and make a living by putting a rubber glove on his head. and I'll be able to, and then he'll be doing it until he's 70, in his 70s. I was going to say, make a career out of for 60 fucking years. You know, I never thought about it. And I didn't think about that I'd be a Saturday morning cartoon. And I never thought about the idea of being a game show host. And I never thought about being a judge on AGT. And I never thought about being a committee.

That came to me when deal or no deal finished. My buddy, Jeff Gaspin, who was the president of NBC Universal at the time, said, how would you like to be a judge? The show was already going. I took David Hasselhoff's place. Yeah, you took the Hoff's place. Yeah. I think they wanted an H there.

They had already had the H for, you know, I don't know if you watch the show, but we have signs with all our names. They had already had an H. So you fucking got the H, bro. Man, thank you so much. Please, one more time. Let's talk about AGT. AGT season 21 starts June 2nd. No CD.

Starts every fucking day. day go check that out yeah and my podcast howie mandel does stuff yes yes every tuesday we drop a new one are you doing any like live performances like go to howie mandel dot com and you'll find out where i am but even when i i do a lot and i tour all over and then when i'm not touring i drop in at the clubs every night do you do you do that i do but i haven't been there in a second i just had a netflix show for the festival did you do anything for the festival yeah i dropped in a lot of places but i dropped in like tonight I'll be at the, I drop in on the comedy story, laugh actor, improv, all of those. I love that you still love it, dude.

That's my favorite thing to do. If you said pick one thing, stand up, no doubt. Can I touch it up with you, hi? Yeah, there you go. Thank you. As always, Ryan Sickler, on all your social media, we'll talk to you all next week.