The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Chase O'Donnell - O'DonnellDew

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

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I always say these are the stories behind the storytellers. I am very excited to welcome this guest. First time here on The Honeydew, ladies and gentlemen. Please welcome Chase O'Donnell. Welcome to The Honeydew, Chase. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much for having

yeah you're a pleasant energy already you came up you got good energy good um i'm very excited to talk to you but before we do please plug and promote everything chase o'donnell all of it okay uh instagram is really where everything is chase underscore o'donnell. Listen, if you don't follow Chase on Instagram, you have to. Your shit is like the extra. I watch all of them. The actual like musical in real life shit. Like I'm scared. I have anxiety for you that someone's going to like hurt you when you're singing next to them on a bus or a subway or something i always like

god please don't hurt i sometimes drink alcohol before doing this but i i i'm just like and i wouldn't blame you you gotta work up i can't believe you like those oh i love them yeah watch all of them you and the who was the the older man you just did one with? Kevin Chamberlain. Yeah, that was a great one, too. He's like a big Broadway guy and reached out. And I was like, oh, my God. See, that's how ignorant I am. I have no idea. Oh, my 10 million TikTok followers.

I just thought this guy was some guy with some extra to eat. Huge, huge Broadway Tony nominated. Oh, he's Tony nominated. Who's that guy? Who's that old fart in that video with you but yeah they're very scary

but fun they look scary yeah and they look fun like every time I'm like oh fuck yeah like cause I like to watch where you're gonna go I'm like oh here's a great setup

where's this fucking punchline I just did one in a golf course and golfers are scary yeah they're real fucking protective because I had to like run out like in between their like shots to make sure I just did one in a golf course and golfers are scary. Yeah, they're real fucking protective. Because I had to like run out like in between their like shots to make sure I wasn't going to get hit with a golf ball.

So sometimes I risk my life for the comedy. Yeah. All right. So check out Chase underscore O'Donnell. And then my special people pleaser just came out and that's on YouTube and would love. Do I look here? Yeah. I'd love you to watch it. That's it.

ChaseODonald.com. There you go. Yeah. All right. And are you out on tour? You go out with Christina? Do you also have your own dates? Yeah, I go out with Christina.

I have my own dates. They're all on ChaseODonald.com. I'm doing UC Santa Barbara this weekend, but that's for college kids. That's fun. Santa Barbara is a fun town. I've done comedy up there a bunch. That's where I went to school.

I've done UC Santa Barbara. We had, I did a show there with Sam Tripoli and we had a lady take a shoe off and throw it at us. Oh, yeah. Well, I was on site.

No, well then there was an exit door right here. So I took her shoe and I opened the exit door and I just kept that motherfucker I thought it was like you know I thought it was a relay and I just threw her motherfucking shoe I was like now now you can walk out there and get that lady okay well hopefully they like

me and don't throw shoes you're a people pleaser I try really hard it's something I really do want to talk about. So I do know a little background on you only because I'm friends with Christina and stuff. And I've sort of put things together. And Kirsten's told me things. But you, Christina worked for your dad.

That's how you met Christina. And before we started recording, you were saying she was really someone you looked up to and someone who's certainly taken you under her wing, especially in the world of fucking comedy. Yeah. But you didn't always grow up in the world of comedy, so to speak. No. You're local, right? Yeah. I grew up in Agora.

Do you know the valley? I know Agora Hills. Agora Hills. Okay, I know Agora Hills. I grew up dancing. My mom was my dance teacher, and I lived at our dance studio. I was there every day after school, 3 to 10 p.m. I'm going today to see my daughter. She dances.

She just started. And I've been in the hospital, and I missed her first two, and it's made me so sad. So today's the first one I get to go watch. Is it ballet she's doing it's ballet and tap oh my two favorites oh my gosh um i'll be in there crying i'm like it's so good i think dance like trains like it teaches you such discipline and i know sports do the same thing but all I know is dance. And I'm so grateful that I had dance training.

So I'm glad you put that. No, I like that discipline. Sports to me, more importantly than discipline, was also camaraderie and teammates and learning how to work well with others, things like that. Dance and comedy, unless you're in a group, they're solo sports. Solo sports. You're in it for yourself. Yeah. 100%.

That's tough. But comedy also teaches you discipline if you're going fucking for it for real. Yeah. You know what I mean? You better be disciplined. And you have to really learn how to love yourself when you're bombing. Yeah. You already hate yourself.

You got to learn how to love yourself. You got to learn how to love yourself. It starts with hate. It's a journey. I'm still on it. Me um but i'm still on it me too i'm still on it i'm just figuring it out i'm like you guys are talking about a fork in the road when i got there there were like seven different ways to go and i think i picked three of the wrong ones you know oh yeah i there's like a million different ways yeah anyways dance was my my escape escape but also just like all i did it was my life um i didn't necessarily choose it i was just put into it because that's my mom

was a dance teacher so we went to dance and did you love it yeah yeah i did or did you grow to love it i always am like if i had chose if i got to choose a sport uh because my parents might put my older sister into like soccer karate gymnastics diving like she did like everything and then picked dance so i just was thrown into dance i often wonder is that what I would have picked? But I'm so glad that I did. I think I loved it. You use it on the gram nonstop. Yeah.

And I'm like, I don't say this about any other thing in my life, but I know I'm really good at dance. You are, yeah. Because I have just like so much training. It's unbelievable. And just a lot of time performing it was always nutcrackers and recitals and dance competitions and whatever it was i just like my life from age 2 to 18 was on the stage so i have two questions do you ever just like fucking hit a spin around the house or

something like that for yourself of course you should see me going on walks because i listen to music and i have to go is anyone watching and then i'll like i'll start dancing yeah um tell me real quick are what are the dance moms and dads like are they just as aggressive as the sports parents? Oh, oh. Or pageant moms? I thought you were going to say, have you ever seen the show Dance Moms?

No. Well, that's what it's like. Check out the show. I don't know what sports parents are like. I've never experienced it. I mean, my brother told me he yelled at a ref and they had to kick him out in front of everybody in the basketball court. I'm like, why are you yelling like that?

He's like, because the guy sucked. He said, don't worry, I'll leave. I'm tired of watching you blow calls all night. It's a little different because you can't be doing a ballet piece and the moms aren't like, go get him, girl. You got it. So it's not like that. But there are pushy stage moms and dads yeah you get the stage stage parents and dance and then you get some really chill parents that are like

whatever so so growing up here you get into dance dance is all you do all i do until uh it was around uh high school ninth grade that high school musical the disney channel original film came out did you watch it no okay but i know it very well i know huge huge success for the disney channel um and like, oh, that's what I want to do with my life. And I was like, I'm going to be not just a dancer, but like an actor and singer and do it all. And I told my parents, like, I want to get me into auditions right now. Okay. And they were like, absolutely not.

They would not let me audition and try, which is in hindsight, very good. Child actors don't have the best lives. But they were very supportive of like, if that's what you really want, then go take class. And they put me into acting classes. And I went to a performing arts high school and i then like in college majored in theater and i just it's been a lot of like training to get there to get the comedy to get to like literally i don't know of any other parents like

all right that's what you want to do go Go train. So I have so much just like dance training, acting, singing, theater, Shakespeare, checkup. I dove so deep into it, but I didn't go do it. I just trained for a long, long time. So how does things shift in high school? In which way? Well, you and I talked earlier about this being a high school is rough for me yeah so i went to two high schools um ninth and tenth grade was agora high which miserable and then 11th 12th grade things got a little better when I went to the Performing Arts High School. But Agora High was so tough personally because, like I said, I was obsessed with High School

Musical. I was obsessed with Disney Channel. My role models were Zack and Cody from The Suite Life of Zack and Cody and Hannah Montana. And all the kids I was going to school with were watching like the OC and The Simple Life. I see. And Agora is like right next to Calabasas. This is like the Kardashian type people I was going to school with. And I just felt so different. And I wasn't like into partying and I was I just was I would go to my dance studio and dance and then go to school and be like oh I don't fit in here and the the tough

part I think was that I just because my role models were these Disney Channel kids. I didn't know anything. Like one kid was like, hey, Chase, do you party? And I remember being just like really offended. And I was like, yes, but I thought he was talking about birthday parties. You really did? Like I didn't know there was another type of party that you could go to. You could go to? i didn't know there was another type of party that you could go to um i didn't know and then and i talk about i have a lot of jokes about this from high school because

like i i wore this shirt all the time that had 69 on it but i didn't know brian but it was a thing your mom and dad never said they knew i think my parents were like we gotta make her a little cool like i think they knew okay but i've talked to my mom about it and was like why did you do this she's like i don't know i thought it's fun like she really didn't she didn't know she's like the kids wear it. And kids would be like, do you know what that means? And I'd be like, yeah. And I've learned never to say

you know what something means when you don't because people will follow up. And I would get like just so humiliated because I didn't know what anything meant. And then I just like, I just, I'm thinking of a story.

I was, I always got detention because I was in, can you believe? No. Did you see my eyes? Thank you. I was like, you? I know. And you said always. I wouldn't be surprised if you said one time.

What do you get in detention for? I was in zero period so that I could get out at 12 to go to dance. And zero period started at 6 a.m. Ugh. I know. So I had to be up at like 5 a.m. I'd be getting home at like 10 p.m. What's zero period anyway?

Is that homeroom? Is that where you just check in to make sure you're in the building and then you go to class? It's like some people could choose to start school at six to get off at 12. But whereas everyone else started with first period at like whatever time, 8, 730. So I was late every day. And I just built up all these detentions. I just built up all these detentions and I had to go to Saturday detention where all the cool kids go. And I couldn't go because I had Nutcracker rehearsal and my mom walked me in with my ballet clothes and she's like, gets me out of detention.

In ninth grade? Tenth grade. Nuh-uh. In your ballet outfit. I'm in ballet clothes. All out of detention. In ninth grade? Tenth grade. Nuh-uh. In your ballet outfit. I'm in ballet clothes. All of Saturday detention. And I go to the other side of the room. And then she goes, come on, Chase. Let's go.

Got you out of detention in front of all the kids. I'm already not cool. And I had to be like, okay. And I leave. And then the school didn't know what to do with me because i had all these detentions and i couldn't do saturday detention so they made up a detention just for me that no one at agora high knew was detention and i was just driving around with the janitor after school what the fuck are you talking about are you you lying to me right now? Who puts a kid with a janitor?

It was like for three months. What are you talking about? After school. Where's he going? He should be on the property. The janitor would drive around in his golf cart and clean up the school. And the kids thought I was friends with the janitor. No one knew it.

But did that give you cool points or were you extra dorky? with the janitor no one knew but did that give you cool points or were you extra dorky okay i would like waved in the golf cart like just because i didn't know what to do and kids wouldn't wave back like i just remember being like chase don't wave parade wave if you do the parade wave if you do parade wave it was so humiliating um but i got through that phase of my high school i don't remember how do you not remember you spent three months with this guy i don't think i really talked to him i think i was like so embarrassed he didn't chit chat you up no and i think he's like who's this girl like why does she have to come around he's got the tension too what is she doing what you're gonna do in this

golf cart with me i want to know who the fuck thought of that and somebody was like that's a good idea send her out there with larry let her clean up what to do with me and like literally because it wasn't a real detention like nobody understood what i was doing after school with the janitor so i would pretend i was hannah montana and i'd be like these kids they just they don't know after school i'm a rock star and they wish they were my friend i i like really channeled disney channel like it was my savior in high school okay so i wanted to be homeschooled really really really really bad i would cry most days after school i was just so i just didn't fit in would you say you were being bullied or were you just more being embarrassed of the way the differences in

your growing up and their growing up i don't know there was like there's mean girls that like like if i wore a shirt that was like i love rock and roll they'd be like do you love rock and roll name three bands like just mean stuff and so is that bullying one time you know i mean they would say today it is but i just feel like that's fucking normal shit okay i told this story one time and i didn't think it was bullying and then someone was like yes this is bullying let's see okay i didn't know what a dildo was i could only imagine okay and some guy in class was like oh the teacher had a dildo and i was like no way and they're like you don't know what that is do you and i was like, oh, the teacher, how to dildo. And I was like, no way. And they're like, you don't know what that is, do you?

And I was like, yes. And they're like, what? And then I had to be like, I don't know. So they like tell me what it is. And then for like probably three or four weeks, these guys would follow me around campus going like making vibrating noises. Is that bullying? Did they call you dildo hey dildo or were you dildo for three weeks as a nickname because if yes then i would say yes it's a bullying if they walk behind you and buzzed i i don't know if that's just being an asshole or bullying but it stopped they didn't call me dildo. Their batteries ran out, I guess. Well, and then what?

Okay, their batteries ran out because I'd pretend like I didn't hear them. You just ignored them and they went away. But I never got called dildo. I got called puke face. Why? And this was at my new high school. Oh, no. Wait, can I ask you a question real quick?

We're going to come back to puke face. Okay. Did you ever connect with another person like you didn't find one soul in that whole school? Okay. I had one, my best friend to this day, Haley. Okay. From the first school. Yeah. She and I went to the same dance studio and we like had each other in high school. So one of the terrible things, at least you got your best friend out of it. Oh, yeah. And we cry laughing talking about high school because of the humiliation we both went through.

Was she the same way? Would you run to each other like, what's a dildo? I don't know. I called her. I immediately called her. I was like, you have to know what a dildo is because if this happens to you you have to be prepared and so like we would help each other out and we also like we got invited to a real party and there were um there's drinking going on and we were like what drinking and we a lot of it was me just pretending to be cool. Cause I would always be like, yeah, I know what 69 is.

Yeah, I do. So I, I put both of us put water in the cup and we were like walking around with water and everyone was like, you guys drink? And we're like, yeah. Um, so I had her to go through that with puke face happened. Uh, we moved, uh, it was like 2007, the recession time. Did you both go to the same school or were you devastated that you weren't going to have your best friend in high school anymore? I was devastated.

Okay. But we were both like, I knew I was lucky because I got to start over. It was actually more exciting for me getting to go somewhere else. Right. Because this is an actual art school, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. But it's hard switching as a junior.

Yeah, you're in the middle of everything. I was going to say, no offense, usually you have your friends. Sorry, you just had off. I only had one friend. I had a lot of friends at my dance studio. That's what I mean. Usually you play sports or whatever. You got your friends. It was all at my dance studio. That's what I mean. Usually you play sports or whatever. You got your friends.

It was all at the dance studio. Yeah, yeah. You got nothing. Yeah, nothing. I had nothing. You just leave behind your best friend and a bunch of, and your janitor buddy. Yeah, I begged my parents. I was like, can I just be homeschooled?

But anyways, OSHA was great. I listened to the episode with Jodi Sweden. You did? Yeah. I went to the same high school she did. Okay. All right. I didn't know that she went there.

Anyways, good performing arts high school. And all of a sudden, I found other high schoolers that were also into musicals and Disney Channel. I found my people there. into like musicals and Disney Channel and like I found my people there. But I was still very naive for high school. Anyways, my senior year, my sister was in college and my sister's really cool. I should mention that. She was like, Chase, like you got to drink.

You have to drink. It's weird that you don't. And I was like, oh, okay. you got to drink. You have to drink. It's weird that you don't. And I was like, oh, okay. And I'll do what she tells me. And she was like, you can have like five shots. Oh, my God. I know. That's a lot. That's a lot.

And I was like, okay. No offense. Your size, probably even smaller than there. Like smaller frame, everything. And five shots is a lot i know i it's i mean i didn't know but i was like now i know so and she's like teaching me drinking games so it was like the first party of senior year and i was like i'm ready and i took five shots just one two three four five you didn't space them out over the night she clearly didn't teach me how Just one, two, three, four, five. No, no, Chase. No.

You didn't space him out over the night. She clearly didn't teach me how drinking worked. What was it? What did you have? Do you remember? Tequila. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. And people were cheering me on.

They're like, oh, my God, Chase drinks now. This is amazing. And I was like, yeah, I do. Like, who's welcome? Yeah, this earth to whoever I drink now and then um it was like probably a minute later because I took it all very fast and I was like I don't get it like how does this work I was like I can give me five more and I took 10 shots no within like five minutes you did not the first time I ever drank 10 you thought five was bad yeah i did i took 10

you doubled down on that shit yeah i was like i can do give me another round of five it just didn't work and i what happened i i truly i blacked out you have to i remember sitting down at a couch and then i woke up the next day at the house just covered and throw up your house oh same house at osha it's like a commuter school people from all over orange county go there so whenever there was a party there were sleepovers like everyone just stayed at the house um so i woke up at the house and I was covered in throw up and I was like, that's weird. I had no idea what happened and I didn't think anything happened.

And then I walked out, people were having breakfast. They're like, you had a fun night. I found out that I had been throwing up the whole night, just like in people's purses. Oh no. Like on myself, in the closet just all i was doing was throwing up for like the entire entire night and so i went to school on monday when i walked into class the whole class applauded kind of like wow she's alive and i was like i was gonna say alcohol poisoning no no like i think i should

have gone to the hospital 10 shots and non-stop throwing up yeah and then i got called puke face for a long time and i remember i was like on a field trip and no one sat next to me because they're like we don't want to sit next to puke face yeah is that bullying yeah that is okay i got bullied you definitely got bullied for sure yeah yeah this is i mean that's it's right there i feel like that's also like older sibling type shit too you know what i mean like yeah but i'm different i know some people say that is bullying someone you said somebody said that's bullying i guess i guess yeah i never thought of it as bullying, but I thought, cause I never got like punched or like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. That's what I thought. Me too. Originally me too. Like I'm not touching you or hurting you. It's just cause we were always taught the stupid fucking, um, what is it?

Names will never hurt me. All that shit, you know, sticks and stones will break my bones, but names, it was like, who cares? They're just words.

That's what we were always taught. If someone says something at school, was like who cares they're just words that's what we were always taught if someone says something at school just ignore it whatever yeah that's what we were taught even a stranger your brother your whatever just who gives a fuck what they say don't let them bug you yeah and then we wouldn't you know or at least if we did you got punched and they were like what happened i'm like you know it was sticks and stones today mother yeah yeah yeah so um same thing happened my sister in college uh told me to eat a weed brownie how many did she tell you to eat now well she told me to eat half of a weed brownie and i did and then i blacked out at six Flags. I was on a date. It was a date party. And I passed out. Let's jump back to that real quick.

What is a date party? I've never. Oh, you weren't in the Greek system. I wasn't. Okay, by the way, in college, I was really cool by college. Where'd you go to school? UC Santa Barbara. All right.

Oh, yeah. You just said you were performing. Yeah. Oh, my God. I right. Oh, yeah. You just said you were performing. Oh, my God. I was so cool in college. So I was in a sorority and there were like date parties or a thing. You like go on, you invite a date and then you go somewhere fun. And like what?

Like six or seven couples or more? Oh, like in a sorority, there's about 150 girls. Oh, shit. This is big. shit this is big yeah huge party and this one just happened to be to six flags and my date was like we should take a weed brownie and i was like let me call my cool sister who like knows this stuff and she was like take half you'll be fine and i I literally, I passed out. I was on a roller coaster and was kind of like blacking out. And then I was like, I need to sit down. And I was literally in the food court

for the whole date party and my poor date. So my sister has led me astray two times. Two times, yeah. Really poorly, yeah. I now don't listen to what she says. We're not listening to cool older sister. Yeah, fuck that. Cool older sister, I can't listen to her anymore.

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Download GameTime today. Last-minute tickets Lowest price guaranteed. Now, let's get back to the do. Anyways, I jumped ahead to college, but that's the gist of high school. Let's go to college then. But are you still dancing and performing in high school? Yeah. So at OSHA, you major in high school.

So I majored in theater and still was taking dance but doing all the musicals. And that too was like you go to school till three and then you have your conservatory classes till five and then you have rehearsal till 10. This is very, when I listen to it structure wise, it sounds very almost like the way people apply religion to their lives, too. You know what I mean? Going to school, I'm going here after school, then I'm going to mass in the evening, then I go home and I do it again. It's just interesting that dance was that for you. You know what I mean? Like, it's school, I'm doing dance and performance, I'm going here, and then I'm going to this dance.

I'm doing dance and performance. I'm going here and then I'm going to this dance. Now, this dance, this after school dance that your mom teaches, do they also have plays and performances? So are you performing in the community, so to speak, with this group and then also doing things in school, performances in school too? No, because when I moved, we moved away. We moved to Orange County. So I wasn't. Oh, you moved away. Yeah, I was no longer in the same dance studio.

And yeah, so I just was doing the Performing Arts High School. So. And did you want to go to college for that as well? Yeah. You did. I didn't really want to go to college. I wanted to just go straight into acting. But again, my parents were like, no, you're going to college I wanted to just go straight into acting but again my parents were like no

you're going to college um so yeah it was just a ton of rehearsals and I I think that's why I mean I never got into drinking or drugs or anything because I was so focused. I definitely had like, this is what I'm doing. And so what do you major in college? So I went to college for theater. Okay. And dance. So the same two things. Yeah. Really smart choices for,

I now have a lot of student debt for theater and dance. And yeah, same thing. Like I always felt like when I was in college, my friends were majoring in like communications or this and they never went to class because they were like all lectures didn't matter. But in the theater program, there were only 11 of us. So you had to show up. And then I was in the theater program there were only 11 of us so you had to show up and then and then i was in the play every i i the whole college it's only 11 of you yeah well it was a cut system so you had to like keep passing oh shit okay so this was and then i kept honestly trying not to get cast in plays because when you're cast, then you have rehearsals every night, like six to 10. So it's the same thing. But I was in a play every quarter of all four

years. So I just like constantly, I was just, I really studied theater. And then I would like run home and go to a party and then like wake up and go to 8 a.m. ballet. So it was just, it was very rigorous for theater and dance. And then you get out of college and what do you do with that degree? Okay. I mean, I don't know. I was auditioning while I was in college. And one thing I got my senior year or junior year, my dance teacher growing up was really good friends with JC Chazet from NSYNC. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. And JC was starting a girl group and my dance teacher was casting it so i didn't mean to be in a girl group but i got cast in a like i got i got i was part of a girl group that jc started are you being serious you You really were. I really was. What's the group? Girl Radical. Good for you. You made it? Yeah. I was like, this is it.

You wanted this? Yeah, here it is. Like, oh my God. It was like a dream come true. I was Chase Radical. Oh, no. Y'all had Radical in your last day. Yeah, like Spice Girls.

Okay. But get ready. Most groups are like five. There were 12 of us. So they were trying to do like the super K-pop groups that have like all the, and they were trying to bring that to America. And it was interesting because like I was still in college and we would go record and I would drive out to LA.

And like we never sang together we all would go in one at a time do our little part and then like it's not we never rehearsed we never like were together as a group it's all very manufactured yeah produced put together yeah and then um so you never saw the other girls or anything in the group? I did. They tried to make a reality show out of it. So they did like a weekend of taping where we were all together and they wanted to start drama. They would like ask us, who's your least favorite in the group? Okay, now go confront them.

Like they were trying to make a whole thing out of it. So as you can imagine lots of drama in the group um and then america's got talent reached out and was like we'd love you guys to perform on the show like audition girl radicals gonna perform okay which like i said we've never we had never done like um stuff together never no not one live performance no okay so um we did it and and can i ask you what do you do? Do you do an original song? Do you do a popular song with a dance routine? We did a cover of I'm Just a Girl by No Doubt.

Okay. The problem is I'm Just a Girl by No Doubt is kind of ironic. And she's saying like, I'm just a girl. And she's like making fun of the fact. Of course. Girl Radical took it very literally and did it like, I'm just a girl and didn't really like making fun of the fact girl radical took it very literally and did it like i'm just a girl and didn't really get the irony of the song anyways is that jc directing that who made that call i don't know what jc's thinking so far sounds like a lot of missteps here

i was wearing jeans and a top but a lot of the girls are in like booty shorts and like. Oh, you all didn't match? You didn't have a uniform or anything like that? No. You were allowed to be individual even though you were all radical? Yeah, we were like our own style. Your own radical self. Yeah.

Okay. All right. You said they're all wearing booty shorts. Yeah. Yeah. So, and here's the thing. yeah so and here's the thing i i i've never been pursuing singing and uh like it wasn't it wasn't like my first passion so it was kind of just like i was in the background i got i got in the group more for my dancing and then i was just like a little backup chorus girl whatever so i'm just

saying that because we got on stage and within 18 seconds we were x'd who's counting though 18 seconds 18 seconds so you know you get x'd but you can't stop until you get x'd by everyone. So you have to keep going. And then we're dancing and we start getting booed by 3,000 people. That's a lot of people to be booing. Have you been booed by 3,000? Okay. No. I've reported in front of 3,000.

But they didn't all boo you? And they didn't. And I'll tell you what, if they did, it would be something else. I often say, say i do think that's a lot of booze coming out everyone should be booed by 3 000 people just to you know but you're in a you're in a the comfort of 11 others imagine that just for you well exactly i'm so lucky it wasn't for stand-up because i probably would have just stopped everything for the rest of my life. Everything.

I was lucky that it was. I'd be scared to leave the house. I would have never done anything again. I think people boo me getting a mail. Boo! You suck at getting that mail, man. I'm like, God damn, everybody. So, yeah, I'm very lucky it was with 12 people.

Yeah, I'm very lucky it was with 12 people. And then the judges, like, you know, it's Heidi Klum and- Howie Mandel. Howie Mandel. Simon and Sharon Osbourne then? No, Scary Spice. Oh, and you guys were up there doing a sort of a Spice Girl-ish thing. Oh, and no one had any good things to say. And every time a judge was like, I don't get it.

The crowd would be like, what? Like they would cheer when the judges would talk bad about us. So a very humbling experience. But I feel like that's a low light to live through. I don't think a lot of people have experienced that level of shame. No. Public shame. No. Public shame. And not only are you getting booed by 3,000 people, it's a lot of people right there, but now it's also on television.

Well, every Tuesday, every Tuesday, it was like, oh, my God, is this the day it's going to air? And I would, like, go hide and curl in a ball. They never aired it. Is that right? There was some sort of suing that happened or something. There was a lot of threats that if this came out, I don't know, they somehow finagled it because it would have been gold for TV. Really amazing. But the group broke up before we even got off stage.

I think we were broken up. Before we got off. Yeah. we even got off stage, I think we were broken up. Before we got off. Yeah. I'm sure of it. I think we were already broken up. Um, and then, but I just have to say, I love JC Chazé with all my heart. And I, he came to my special and like, he's so supportive.

Oh, he's still supportive of you? Oh, that's actually very cool. Okay, good. Oh my gosh. It was the coolest experience to get to work with him. And I was such a fan of NSYNC and that overall very cool experience. But the getting booed on stage was a humbling one. Yeah, that will ground you.

Yeah. So he saw you get booed and then saw you get cheered. Yeah. Yeah, you're special. That's awesome good good i know he's been very supportive um anyways so that was like during college and a little after and then i got cast and i was auditioning like immediately after college and i got cast in an off-broadway musical so I just moved straight to New York and I what age are you I was 22 okay and it was like literally living the dream being a paid actor doing musical theater in New York and that was amazing but then the show got canceled and then I was like oh

now I'm a struggling actor living in New York looking for work and let me tell you not fun I in college the program at UCSB is very much about creating your own work so I left college with a one-person show so I was just like okay I'm gonna create my own work because I was auditioning but it's just rejection after rejection after rejection after it's just hundreds of rejections and so that's it it is and it's really like I look back at like 22 year old me and I was like, I was confident. Like I thought I was amazing and everyone should cast me and like I'm ready. And like by time I was 24, I was extremely depressed. So it only took two years of just constant rejection to see a huge difference in

my like mental health. But I, yeah, I put on my one person show. I turned it into a two person show with one of my best friends in New York. And we did that. It was called Two Blondes. two blondes and then was auditioning throughout it um also had like seven day jobs trying to support myself and it's just have you ever lived in new york you've always been la oh yeah i i was baltimore uh originally from baltimore so i was over the winter and shit and i was like i'm gonna go to new york yeah only because of the winter i also like la I was like, I'm going to go to LA. Fuck New York. Yeah. Only because of the winter. I also like LA. I really do like it here. It's slower paced.

It's not that aggressive East Coast pace. It's much more laid back. The weather's fucking great. I agree. But it took me living in New York to be like, oh, I lived in the best place in America. I like to drive too. You know what I mean? I like to drive. I didn't realize. You don't need to drive in New York to be like, oh, I lived in the best place in America. I like to drive too. You know what I mean? I like to drive. You don't need to drive in New York. We have the air conditioning in the car and it's sunny and we have the beach. It just is so much nicer. And I hear people that live on the East Coast and move to New York have an

easier adjustment than people on the West Coast that move to New York. That would make sense to me. West Coast going East is harder than East going West. Yeah. Yeah. East going West, you just let your shoulders down after a little bit and try to chill. West going East, you better put your fucking fists up and get ready for it. You better be throwing uppercuts and elbows out there. I'm tired of throwing them. I came out here to relax. Yeah. And I'm a very sensitive, as a Pisces, very empathetic, very like walking down the street and just seeing homeless people everywhere and people with signs like I have AIDS laying down. And like I just was constantly sad for everyone around me. was constantly sad for everyone around me and i it was just really taking a toll on just my i just i guess the word is i was depressed i was crying every day i was walking in the streets

crying i was i i hated my the jobs i was doing and that's's when I realized, like, even though I'm pursuing, like, comedy. Oh, I was also doing stand-up. Well, that's what I want to ask you. When do you switch that? Because stand-up is nothing like theater. I mean, maybe you can find the parallels in it, but it's not that, you know, do these things and you go here and do this it's just very much it is no i started stand up as soon as i graduated college okay um it was like okay i'm

it's it's the way to like always be in control of your career and i had a lot of tools on how to create my own work and so I felt like stand-up was always a way to like get up and perform and not have somebody tell you that you're allowed to so yeah stand-up I'd been doing as soon as I graduated but like you know at the beginning you can have one really good show and you're like oh i'm great and then you bomb and you're and just like the bombs are so awful yeah and i've i just had so many bombs where people would be like who thought trace was never gonna get off the stage or like just i i apologized one time after a show because it went really bad. And the host was like, that's okay.

It's just this is a comedy show. So next time do comedy. I just had so many bombs. That one stuck with you. Yeah. I mean, so mean. So all the while, I mean, just living in New York is hard, but just constantly being rejected and like questioning, why am I even doing this? So that's my question for you about comedy.

Why are you doing this? what's funny as you know is to fucking bomb and make mistakes or be like okay either i'm not doing what i need to do with this material or this just isn't something i need to be pursuing like that's the only way to go okay that works that works that work that work you know how do you why do you stay with comedy if the already being rejected for acting and all these things is bothering you and depressing you so much. I don't know. The only way to succeed in comedy is to keep bombing. It's like so crazy to me. It's because I decided when I was like 14, I was like, that's what I'm doing.

Like, I'm going to be. It wasn't like so much a comedian, but I knew I wanted to like do comedy in some form. So it's almost like I didn't want to let down my younger self. And I had this, even though like I was sad, it's like I had this knowing I knew I was good and I had enough validation throughout my life that I was like constantly getting praised and like in in growing up I knew that I was good enough so I like had that knowing always that I was like I know I just need to figure it out because for some reason i've had this confidence of like i'm great but that like kept getting just torn down yeah the world has a way of doing that too but i still there was still some part of me that was like no i know i'm good i know i would watch people and be like i'm so much

No, I know I'm good. I know I would watch people and be like, I'm so much better than that. And I guess that's the only way I would like keep going. Because I had so many friends that just like straight out of college, they were already working and never stopped. And I was like, well, isn't that lovely? So I don't know. I just I did become very bitter. I became very sad. But I feel like I'm saying this and it seems like, oh, boo-hoo, you got sad because things didn't go your way, which doesn't matter whether you're rich or poor or, you know, what language you speak. Depression is depression. When you're there, it doesn't matter how you fucking got there.

Yeah. You got there from, I mean, it's not easy. If that's the job you take, imagine trying to be a doctor or something like that. And every time you go in to do a surgery or something, you kill that guy. You failed. You failed. You failed. You failed. And then one time you get it right, you're like, here we go. Here we go. You know what I mean? It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. You're just failing nonstop to succeed. Yeah. And it was a lot of, I mean, talking about people-pleasing, that was like my 20s was people-pleasing. Where does that come from?

Is that like, and that like and also you know but also let me say this i know i asked you a question i'm cutting you all but people pleasing might also be the thing that saved you because you wanted us you just said i didn't want to let my 14 year old self down and that fucking thing might be the very thing that was like i'm not gonna let that girl down either so even though we're about to talk about maybe it's a detriment, it also might be the very thing that kept your fire going. I pleased myself. Yeah. Whoa. So where does it come from? Were you always trying to make your parents happy, teachers happy? You were always the good girl. Yeah. I was always an amazing student. I guess I got continual praise for like, look, I did what they wanted me to do. And I got praise for that.

So I don't know exactly where it started from, but I didn't notice it until my 20s. And in my 20s, I think the reason I hit such a like rock bottom was because all of a sudden I realized like, I'm not, everything I'm doing is because somebody told me to do this and someone told me to do that. And my agent wants me to do this. And like, I wasn't doing anything I authentically wanted. Man, that resonates't need seven jobs. I did for the money, but I could have found one job that worked for me. worked for me. Someone would offer me something. I'd be like, okay, sure. And like I was just anything, I would do it. And I was so tired and so just pulled in so many directions and I wasn't focusing on like the main goal, which was comedy. I was doing a million other things besides stand-up so I just I think it took a huge toll on me that I wasn't living for myself and I got kicked out of my apartment in New York um so it was like Brooklyn was

Bushwick is has become very gentrified and in 2018 it was like starting that and they like paid everyone in the building to leave but we had to move and me and my boyfriend broke up and he broke up with me because i was crying every day which never again will i cry to a boy my god um and he said he turned into my therapist oh so i mean i was it was really bad um so anyways i was like okay i'm getting like pushed out of new york like time to go and i took the like little bit of money that they gave us to move um and i went to new zealand and i spent a month in new zealand and then went to thailand and i had a little eat pray love okay because i knew i was like i can't keep going on this unhappy um and did you go solo i went with my my friend had just quit her job and was going to new

zealand solo and she was like, come with me. And I was like, okay, I will. So it worked out very magically. And it was just kind of my reset. I called it my quarter life crisis.

Cause it was really, I was like 26 and I was just like, this, this is a crisis. Like I also, all my friends that had done like normal jobs had gone into like nine to fives were all in such a different place in their lives. They like knew what they were doing and what direction they were going and they felt like they had stability. And I just was like, I don't have any stability and um so I went to New Zealand and Thailand and then I came back I moved home and I was like I'm done with this business I am going to all I wanted to do is PA I just wanted to PA I just wanted to PA. I just wanted to be behind the scenes, but work on a comedy show. Because I was so over the being in front of the camera and putting myself out there and it was just so draining. And I spent a year applying for PA jobs. Very tough to get, surprisingly.

Yeah, I am surprised yeah because once you're in you're in but to get into that circle um and i got a job on curb your enthusiasm as a pa all right and i was like okay that's a good one oh yeah okay good i was like wait before i say oh no no great job good thank god great job i for some reason having never, they put me in charge of Larry David, which. No. I would feel like Larry David would have a person at this point that knew Larry David. You know what I mean? Larry David should have someone.

He has a personal assistant. Okay. But I was the PA. All right. That had to knock on his door, tell him when it was time to go to set, walk him to set, on set, keep eyes on him, make sure he knew what was going on. So he also had someone that would take care of his food and certain things. But like, do you know Larry? I don't know him personally.

So he doesn't feel the need to fill a silence. And doesn't feel the need to fill a silence. And I do feel the need to fill a silence. So we'd like walk to set and I'd be like, how's the traffic, Larry? And he wouldn't respond. At all. No, because he doesn't need to respond. He doesn't. Who has time for that type of small talk?

He's going to set. And then i would like hum to myself or like i try to how long is the walk that would have been like a seven minute walk in silence that's a long time to ask someone a question he doesn't answer oh man and i only have amazing things to say about that's a long time yeah but um i love it you say here's how you know i don't know him you call him larry i call him larry david okay i do not know larry david no i mean i have curb your enthusiasm larry stories i don't know i don't know if we go into them yeah tell me okay well i i um didn't did you ever break the ice at all? Yeah. But he did.

So, yeah. No, like at the party, the wrap party, he was like, Chase. You know, like we know each other. He's very sweet. But he did ask the ADs to tell me to stop stalking him. No. Stalking him. Because as a PA, I was supposed to know where he was at all times. No. Stalking him. Because as a PA,

I was supposed to know where he was at all times. Keep eyes on him all night. And professional PAs who have been doing this a long time are very good at just being like, okay, he walked over to Crafty. Okay, that's where he is. I'm going to stay put. I didn't know you could do that.

I would literally follow him wherever he went. I was right behind him. Remember when you asked me if it was bullying and I didn't know if it was bullying? I would say that this is definitely stalking. This is stalking. You didn't mean

harm. I feel like stalking has an intent to mean harm. I was so scared of not doing a good job and not knowing where he was. He came from a good place. So I literally one day, one day we were filming at a hotel and I followed him to his hotel room. And he turned around and he said, Chase, you have to stop stalking me. He did.

He did. did he he did um and so then after that the like next day we were filming at like a um i don't know location and he had his trailer and i i knocked on the door i was like five minutes and i didn't want him to think i was stalking him but i still had to walk in and be like okay larry's heading to set you know i had to know. And there was a bush and I stood behind the bush as to not seem like a stalker. And Larry got out of his trailer. He walked right past the bush.

Did he see me? Yes, he did. And we just looked at each other just how is this not in a fuck is this in an episode no and he and i wish i had done something like oh there's my phone you didn't say anything no we just looked at each other we just locked eyes as i was standing behind a bush this is getting okay it is okay okay now um meanwhile i was starting to do stand-up again um because i just wanted my life to be simple i was like i'm gonna pa during the day and do stand-up at night and like that's what my life is.

I'm not going to be doing 100 million things. And so I was doing like – which PAing is like 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. Like it's a terrible – Yes, I was a PA for a while. It's a grind. It's hard to do stand-up as a PA. I've done a couple 24-hour shifts as a PA. Yeah.

So I never told them I did comedy. I didn't want them to think I was PA-ing just to be on the show or something. But it came out like I had to leave early. I was doing a stand-up competition, and I had to leave early. So I told them, and I won the competition. Good for you. Thank you. So I told the ADs just to let them make them feel better about me leaving early. I was like, just so you know, I won. Thank you so much. And then news spread that I was a stand-up and Adam, the AD, took my hand and like walked me to the director, to Larry, to everyone. Chase does stand-up, she won, blah, blah, blah.

He said, Chase just won a stand-up competition. She's really funny, blah, blah, blah. And there's a picture. Someone took a picture of Larry finding out that I do stand-up. And it's a look of concern. Like, he is so concerned because I can't have one single conversation with him. I'm, like, so awkward around him. You're hiding behind bushes and shit. like so awkward around him behind bushes yeah like he's like and he goes you do stand up and he was so just shocked and floored and um i was like yeah he's like are you good and i was like i guess

and he was like just uh just don't talk about me in your set. And I was like, okay, got it. And that was his advice for my stand-up career. So, just don't talk about me. He can't get over it. So, anyways, they found out I did stand-up. And then during the pandemic, when they were filming again, I was able to go back because touring had stopped. And again, they were just like, they knew that at this point, like, stand-up is what I was doing.

And this newest season that they're filming now, they gave me a part on the show. Hell yeah. All right, did they? And apparently they told me when- Are you the stalker of PA? No. Oh God, I wish you were.

I wish you were. It'd be so funny. Like this girl's following me everywhere. But when apparently like the director's assistant told me that when they pitched me in the room to Larry to be the part that I was cast in, apparently he was like, ah. That's how you get a yes. That was his reaction. That's a Larry David yes.

That's fine. But on set, like, during, after each take, I was like, how was that, Larry? How am I doing? And he was giving me notes. Okay, good. All right. I mean, we have a, like, I. He didn't was that, Larry? How am I doing? And he was giving me notes. Okay, good. All right. I mean, we have a... He didn't sit in silence for that.

No, no. He was actually giving me pointers and notes. He's like, do it this way. And I liked that, but don't do it that... It was really cool. It was an incredible full circle moment. Fuck yeah. Good.

Yeah. Look, listen, that's a perfect way to end this episode. I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing humiliating moments. Look, I like these episodes.

I know everybody worries about an episode like this. Like it's not, it doesn't measure up to, I told you before we recorded, I sit across from people every week and I hear things

where I'm like, what the fuck am I bitching about? You know what I mean? It is a perspective check. But this is so good because it explains so much about people and so much. We're so vulnerable at that age. I'm going to ask you now because you're first time here.

But that high school pocket is a tough fucking gauntlet. It just is. There's so much going on. So what advice would you give to your 16-year-old self? I love this question. I love that you ask this. I thought about it before and my advice was keep your YouTube channel because I had one. They were emailing me, do you want to get paid for your videos? And I was like, no. And I stopped doing it. Can you imagine if I kept that going? Anyways, I think my real advice would be like, you're going to get a lot of advice from a lot of different people soon. And instead of just doing that,

doing that. Really ask yourself if that's what you want. Journal about it, meditate and get clear on what you want before you take advice from other people who think they're helping. But you have to go with your gut and what you want. Guts forever. That's the- I wish I had learned that a lot younger. I learned it and I wish I listened learned that a lot younger. I learned it and I wish I listened to it all the time. I still sometimes like, no,

my brain knows better and it doesn't. It never does. Yeah, I know. Well, thank you for coming on. I really appreciate it.

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