The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Eleanor Kerrigan - PhillyDew

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

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Am I wearing yoga pants? I don't even know where I am. We're highlighting the lowlights. You know where you are, girl. These are the stories behind the storytellers. Today's storyteller is actually back on the honeydew for the second time. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Eleanor Kerrigan, y'all. Welcome back to the honeydew, girl.

I'm wearing my jawn. I love it. It's a wah-wah jawn. Show that to the camera. Show this. I look like a titless idiot. I'm wearing my John. I love it. It's a Wawa John. Show that to the camera. Show this. I look like a titless idiot. I'm sorry. My little tic-tac tits are out.

I went to hug you for the Wawa shirt, and then I realized it was John and hugged it tighter, girl. You're like, aw, shit. That's my John, man. That's great. Yeah, I love this shirt. It's my favorite. Please promote everything and anything you'd like. You're out there doing it.

So wherever they can find you on the road, not just your dates, but where they go to find those dates. Okay. So I have a website, but I don't know how to upload anything. So I apologize in advance. I'm trying to sleep with millennials again. But now that COVID's coming out, I got a 35% capacity I can let inside. So I'm going to try to get some young folk to help me fix it. But I am doing May 21st, 22nd, 23rd at the La Jolla Comedy Store.

Very excited about that. And one of my favorite things is also I'm doing Reno, the Laugh Factory, in June. I'm going to mess up these dates because i i'm terrible at life but i think it's the 19th that weekend okay and guess who my feature is who the great brian holtzman ladies and gentlemen yeah so if y'all want to come out to reno and see me not be able to follow my feature bring it on out guys bring it on out, guys. Bring it on out. I got the craziest man alive.

You really do. That's great. Featuring for me. I'm embarrassed and excited at the same time because he should be headlining, but... So should you. I know. But I do the robe more than him. So he...

That'll be fun for you both. That is hard. That is a new thing to him. So it's like you know and he does hours at the store like he they put him on last him and brody were the two last got you know they would let them do like i think brody would do like almost two hours sometimes you know he took it like a podcast and a drum session and then holtzman would do the same thing but they would fluctuate that time so we'll see it's gonna be fun you're a comedy store historian i really do love like anytime i want to

know anything i go to you i'm like what's the real fucking deal with this shit you're like you know you go back what to the 93 93 93 and when you said comedy store historian i didn't get in there until 99 didn't you start la jolla first no No, I started in the belly room back in the Sunday night Adam Barnhart shows where there would be like 10 people and they would go for fucking three and a half hours. Of course. Adam will stretch a shit. And then Aaron Cater and those guys back then. Sure.

And then we talked about it. I went through the Tommy days, which is why I never got in. Right. It was always some bullshit. Why do I put you in La Jolla? Never? done la jolla i'm a mess maybe maybe that's where i saw you first i don't know no i'd only ever done la jolla one i've only still ever done la jolla once damn i put you always with somebody else then that's rude to mix up white guys like that but i'll do that because i'm racist so uh yeah i did um i started 93 but when you

said comedy store historian that to me that's jeff scott unfortunately we lost jeff our piano player but that is true um jeff came in uh i think 95 because i had already been there and we had another guy named steve moore who was a house pianist for a long time. And then Jeff came in. And just when you find somebody that loves the store like that, it's like, oh, it's so good. Because most people come in, they're like, I'm better than this place. I'm this, I'm that. And you're not. It's history. It's a weird.

It's a rich history. It's a weird history. It's a fucked up history. We'll have to curse on this. Anyway, I already ruined that, didn't I? Tic-t tack, tits. It's just a little pet name that Dice gave me on the road, which is awesome. That's cute.

It's awesome. Yeah. But I want to say thank you because you, I say you're back here. But when you first did your episode, we were literally at my kitchen table. It was three, number three, right? That's right. Number three in my apartment. Yeah. at my kitchen table. Was three, number three, right? That's right, number three in my apartment. Yep.

And I was like, look, we're, you know, Tom's still building the studio out. This thing's going to go. You're like, this motherfucker's doing his show in his apartment. I wasn't. I was like, this is awesome. I wish I had a kitchen table like this.

Josh was with us, Josh Adam Myers. And now look where we are. Right, without Josh, which is amazing. That means we moved. Smart move. We moved up. He which is amazing. That means we moved. Smart move. We moved up. He's going to call me about that. He's like, I heard what you did.

Shit, Josh. No. He also, when you were doing your announcements, you said Monday. I nearly jumped over the table to fight you. It was so good. Monday. Monday. We have audio Monday, video on Tuesday. don't you know that's how my grandma

everybody over there talks it's true baltimore and philly has similar accents their cousins definitely similar accents and i didn't know that till later because why would i talk to anybody from baltimore and uh baldy more but not until i moved out to L.A. did I meet somebody from, you know, and then she became a good friend. And I was like, damn, she sounds like me. And they were like, oh, are you from Baltimore? I'm like, no, I'm from South Philly. I'll fucking fight you right now. But I'm working on the anger.

Just for getting it wrong. Yeah. I'm working on the anger. Let's talk about that because you're one of 10 kids. All right. So if you don't know if you've never heard go listen to eleanor's first episode also her crab feast episode god damn great too and i always pump the crab feast it's a it's a library of seven years of such great guests and

great stories i still get um hit up online about the crab feast because we talked about the tiger oh god they have tiger and so people send me pictures of the rifle and the tiger you know that um i want to say since you told me about that being able to have a pet tiger up until certain whatever there's been two or three other people who floated into my life that have through this podcast or somewhere else that i wished it on you i willed it i'm like what the fuck y'all i like you guys happen to know eleanor kerrigan by chance like no no like all right it is weird i didn't know the tiger king before tiger king oh my god how great it's tiger king right and you guys were doing that shit they just kept going with it well people there was a place like that out in Pennsylvania, like out, and apparently

all the animals got out on the freeway or something, the highway, whatever. Tigers and shit? Yeah, this happened. No. A hundred percent. And we think that our Tony, our Tigger, you know, because they gave him, it got so bad, ripping up the furniture and everything. He's a tiger.

Really? You can't tame him? Anyway. He's ripping up the furniture and everything they were like tiger really you can't tame them anyway it's ripping up the row home you can't you can't be like get off the furniture get down get down your neighbor had a pet tiger in a philadelphia row home it is insane every time i walk by the the street and i see the back of my friend Frankie's house, I'm like. How little it is. So little. So little. And this. Is it the fence like this? He had two other dogs.

And a tiger. No. It was a baby. It got along. And the only person, of course, that, you know, lived on and like cuddled up to was my brother Charlie. Naturally. Charlie. Charlie. I made you say jungle book jungle book

dr doolittle's out there just walking around with all his animals even when we were kids like dogs would like stray dogs we'd be like let's go feed the dog i'm like we don't feed our dog like we don't have food yeah why are we giving food away to another dog but like charlie would be like i feel bad for him you know so he did that our dog we i don't know if i talked about fluffy did i i don't remember so please fluffy is i don't remember it's good that you get high. It's all new to me. It's brand new. You hear about Fluffy? One of my favorite moments telling a Fluffy story was I did Bill Burr's The Ringers where he put comics on. Almost like a Dangerfield thing, but he did it on Comedy Central.

So we had to be clean, which was terrifying for me, but whatever. He interviewed us before. I saw you. Okay. So we talked about Fluffy, and when my mom was taking us to this Flyers game, because I told the story about, she was just, had it. Like, she's standing in the middle. I told it on the crab feed. Is this the one where, in the blizzard, where she's dragging you?

Yeah, she's dragging us on the sled. I just told the story the other day to a friend. Like, in the middle of a blizzard, she's dragging her children down. Free hot told the story the other day to a friend like in the middle of a blizzard she's dragging her children down this is the only time they're ever gonna get free hot chocolate seats too at the spectrum because at the spectrum with the broad street bullies my mother was like wrap them up pulling the sled sledding her children and but when we were going we saw this like thing come out of a snow drift and it was fluffy covered in snow i just popped out of a snow drift and i was telling burr the story of bill goes oh man back when dogs could be dogs yeah right yeah and i was like oh yeah

yeah yeah dogs would just roam the neighborhood. And people knew who the dog was. Well, that's the best part. I have nine brothers and sisters. So I'm always Jimmy's sister, Karen's sister, Bobby's sister, Edie's sister. You know, always somebody's sister. Right. And I was walking to school one day.

I was in high school. And the neighbor goes, oh, hey, there's Fluffy's sister. And I'm like, that's it. That's it. I'm done, you it that's it you son of a bitch that's how popular fluffy was everybody knew fluffy and she would she was a little racist i don't know who taught her that racist dog not teach this dog but i remember coming home from school and uh these i see these two little black girls there was like a curly slide and they were up at the top and i'm like why are they screaming and i and i was like genuinely concerned walking home from school like it's what the hell is wrong

and they're help us and i'm i'm looking i don't see around. And then all of a sudden I see Fluffy running. He's got them at the top. Wait, Fluffy's a he? She. She. I'm sorry. Did I say he? Oh, I'm sorry, babe.

That's my girl, Fluffy. She was in between. She was trans. So, no. Trans dog. We don't know what she identified as. But she was going back and forth, back and forth. And these poor kids are up at the stop i'm like god damn it this dog so i go across the street and get it and they were like

that dog tried to kill us and i'm like i'm so sorry but if you if you i don't know if she was racist or if like it was fear like if she sends fear because she bit a lot of people see oh she would just bite her neighborhood biter if they were afraid of the dog she bit a lot of people. Oh, she would just bite her? Neighborhood bite her? If they were afraid of the dog, she bit. Like if they did any of this shit, it was like, she was like, I'll show you what to be afraid of. Want something to be afraid of? So I'm going to say my dad. You're going to show your anger in your whole family.

Threw it all the way down into the pets. I'm going to say my dad trained her. You want me to show you what anger is you afraid i'll show you to be afraid that's not a way but i i because my dad did that's when he left and then we were just stuck with her but this dog she knew the neighborhood in and out and like like one night, I remember these kids were trying to steal our bikes and me and Billy, of course, the two terrible kids together up.

Cause as soon as my mom would go to sleep, we'd be like, let's go. And we go downstairs or we go outside and play hockey. And we were like nine, 10, you know, just outside.

And my poor mother was working, trying to feed 10 children. No support from Cuckoo's Nest. And so she's doing this. As soon as she went to sleep, she was passed. She died. She was like, I'm not waking up. I don't care if you guys are on fire.

Don't bother me. So we would sneak down. And we heard something. And our bikes were broken. So if you were picking, those were already scraps. Other people gave up. They were already stolen. Okay, maybe.

Okay, maybe. But it was usually like a cousin that would come behind and be like, I'm sure one of the Kerrigan kids needs a bike. But we didn't have locks for it. So they were just piled in there. I don't ever remember. Until my adult life, I never locked a bike up. No we didn't have locks for it so they were just piled i don't ever remember like until my adult life i've never locked the bike up no ever no i just remember throwing it on the ground and if it got stolen but it didn't get stolen one time we only had a bike stolen that's what i'm saying and because we're all you grew up in a nice neighborhood it's an okay neighborhood

but if you took it chances are we we were going to see you riding it or someone we knew was going to see you riding it you had to come from somewhere else to get a bike and that's what they would do yeah it was well we had the projects the playground and then our neighborhood so it was like we would meet in the name in the middle and fight each other or from just other neighborhoods coming down into our neighborhood and we didn't go in other people's neighborhoods back then so you know you if this was where you're from and you venture out you're on your own so whatever i did venture out a lot but those kids would come and try to but these two kids specifically um they were in the yard we heard them and they must have been going through it because our

yard looked like sanford and son you know it was a problem it was all kinds of broken shit out there you know and so uh they must have been going through it and then fluffy was like and i was like let's let her out see what happens and we let her out and i never saw two and they were young i've never seen kids not put their feet to climb the fence it was just it was a and they up and ran and fluffy chased them all the way back she didn't come back for hours like these poor kids i hope they're still alive i it's not my business but it was a long time ago there's still a still a little fluffy out there. And she was a sheep and poodle.

She wasn't even like a Rottweiler or something, you know, like a scary dog. She was a fluffy dog. But she would – I remember we all went to my sister Karen, the favorite, which reminds me. I have to tell you what happened. So we all went to her house which was like four blocks away because my dad the house only child your dad will have hang out 100 and by the way it was his house she was living in he gave it to her we got nothing no i'm kidding she bought it she bought it okay all right it for sale. But he wouldn't sell it to you guys.

I'm sure he gave her a discount. But her and her husband were either renting or buying. I forget. But it was my grandmom's house, my dad's mom. And then my mom's mom lived right up the street from there. So my mom and dad grew up one street apart. So we were at, it was Thanksgiving. We go to her house

and we left Fluffy at home. Well, this bitch was like, I'm not staying here with no food. And I don't, I'm going to be honest, you talk about not locking bikes. I don't even think we had a lock on our front door. It was like, if you come in, that's on you. You now made a fatal

mistake of walking in to a tribe. And you don't know who's sleeping over because my brother Jimmy, all his friends used to get kicked out of their house. So he would just have them sleeping randomly. Like the Rizzo's were always there. Like Jimmy Rizzo always. He would eat my mom's lunch. And then for her work. Nah.

Like the lunch she made the night before oh my god and she'd be like god damn it god damn but if my mom said she's like at least they're not out stealing cars so at least they're here so she would go to work and she and i remember and jimmy we were so close with the rizzles like i grew up with david bobby grew up with mike you know johnny grew up with chrissy like it was just how it worked and so we my mom knew their parents too they grew up together that's how neighbor hoodie it was and so Jimmy was like hey that that egg salad was good and my mom's like you ate it you you I can hit. You. I can hit. So it was like that.

But, you know, you never knew what you were coming into. So I don't ever remember locking the doors. But Fluffy could figure out how to get out. And she was scratching on my sister's door. She knew where you all went? She walked. She went to my grandma's. She used to walk.

My mom's mom would walk by herself. They never never drove my mom never drove my her mom never drove she would walk my grandma would leave come over hang out with us whatever probably babysitting who knows and fluffy would walk her home all the way to the house and walk back by herself no shit and everybody knew fluff they'd be like hey fluffy you like you got any biscuits or food? Because they don't have shit. Did she get along with the tiger? I don't know if Fluffy met the tiger. That's interesting to think of because Fluffy was always around us.

Got a tiger attitude. A hundred percent. But she was probably busy. She also played with this dog. Busy. She became friendly with this dog, Blackie. And Blackie lived next to the Jafaglions. That's the best last name in history.

The Jafaglions. As Steve Simone would say, here's your sign. Greatest last name ever. But wait, Fluffy, like the dog named Blackie, was Blackie Black? Yes. Well, then Fluffy wasn't racist. She just didn't like people. Yeah, but a lot of times, like black people, hey, get that dog away from me.

And they would get fear and she would go after that. I got one. Here we go. Here it goes. But in fairness to Fluffy, she also bit Michael Mulvihill and Carol Rawlings. White people? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Those are white names. Mulvihill's a white name. But yeah, she – so whatever. But this thing – wait, what was I just telling you about? My brain went – oh, with her going to my sister's house walking my grandma home oh with Blackie so she would go with Blackie and my mom would be like running late for work and she's like as long as the kids are at school make sure you're in school you know she would run to her job she worked for the Philadelphia Navy shipyard and she'd go walk to the bus and as she's walking to the bus Blackie the dad and

Fluffy would be there and Fluffy the guy had Fluffy on a leash my mom's like oh boy so my mom my mom would like walk by and the the guy goes don't worry she doesn't bite my mom's like yeah i know she ignored her and she i mean she probably wasn't like barking like that's the lady that's the lady that doesn't feed me i think that's the owner is that my and so a poor thing and my mom just walked by and went on the bus and was like fluffy was out and they have her on a leash she got pregnant by that dog what a whore my poor baby i had to get rid of the baby said he's an abortion whore a fucking dog and now the dog's got puppies like this house is horny i'm going out to get some there's too many kids in this house.

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And I'm like, that's exactly. I mentioned you like Eleanor would talk to this guy. So you mentioned also like you said, I'm working on my anger and I know you're half joking. So I know. But you mean working on it, working on it. Yes. I let it out. That's the part you're joking on.

But I know you have anger. Can we talk about like because you're so familiar to me. Your way is like I watch you and dice on the way you talk to one another. But also I know like with your brothers, you're like, you don't have time for the bullshit. No, you don't have time for the fucking bullshit. And that's a lot of bullshit. You've done that. So I've always respected that about you.

But where why do you feel like because I know I'm angry. I mean, what was was it that your dad left? What was it that really got you into being just like fucking pissed about things i don't i don't know i just i know that like my mom would be like just don't break anything up here you know like i could break stuff that was already broken in the yard because i would my little brother bobby makes fun of me, I mean, it would be the dumbest things that I get angry about. So I always try to figure out why would that make you angry or why did you get to that level? So I'll be blow drying my hair, right?

And I have big, curly, crazy hair. So it is not an easy tame, right? So I'm like learning how to tame this thing. And it wasn't working. And I just and this is at my mother's house where I'm sure somebody was in the shower because that's our bathroom. You know, somebody could be going taking a shit. Somebody taking a shower and somebody's blowjob. I want to ask you about that, too. Like it's a row home. What did you have? Did you have two? No. Well, one and a half. One and a half. So thank God. Right.

But there was times where I'm in the shower. Jimmy's shaving. Johnny's taking a shit. And we're all in this room. Right. So that could be, you know, that stench or never having Jimmy peering in. I'm just kidding. He always used to joke.

He's like, come on, I'll give you a piece of gum. Come on, come on. It's kidding. But he's just, Jimmy's a pervert and open about it. He'll be like, oh, look at that. He'll be like, damn, that girl's hot. And his daughter will be like, dad, she's my age.

And he's like, oh, my fault. My fault. And then I'll go, but look at the girl look at the girl but he doesn't touch he's more of a talker you know like a about them not to them so much he's somebody that um no he would he would he would he's somebody that like that girl would get offended by or whomever the person would get offended by because even when he would come visit, I was living with my roommate Chris. We lived together for 12 years out here. He was my best friend. We both suck cock, so we were one.

Bill Suckcock. So we were one. And so we got along great, like amazing. And we were polar opposites in that like he was a morning person, like a chipper. I know those people, yeah. And he used to fuck with me and he'd open the door and go, good morning, good morning. I'm like, I'll take your life away from you. You know, don't do. And so he would laugh and then slam the door and like run away. Like we close tight. So whatever. We're still tight to this day. So Chris, he goes, Elle, I think

somebody's outside calling you. And I'm like, what do you mean? And we lived like over at a garage. We had a cute little balcony. And then he pulled up and this person pulls up in the driveway and he's like, Titty! Titty! Titty's yelling. And he goes, I think it's for you.

So I go outside. It's my brother Jimmy. He's yelling. Titty! so i go outside it's my brother jimmy i know but and like chris was like i a lot of people might get upset down there i'm like no it's amazing just yelling but that's who Jimmy is. Whatever. So I go back to the bathroom like with Bobby. I was blow drying my hair. I don't know where Bobby was if he was like in the shower getting out of the shower. Who knows? You know, and it was tiny. It's a tiny little.

Yeah, I had one. You know, it's not even half the size of this room. It's even closer. Yeah. It's probably from you to the wall. And so anyway so i i was god fuck i must have had a date or something who knows i was probably trying to get some and i'm blow drying my hair and it's not working i went mother fucker and i threw the blow dryer

through the medicine cabinet which is glass yeah the mirror shatters and bobby goes now how are you gonna fix your hair you fucking idiot and he just walked away and i was just like but like that's a normal occurrence there's shattered glass everywhere and it's just like all right i'll go in the other room to and we all did it i mean maybe bobby did i don't know i know i'm bad i've punched through things jimmy has broken things. I've punched my share of walls when I was younger for sure. Did you fight a lot growing up? Oh, God, a ton.

I was in a ton of fights, especially at 16, 17. After my dad died and we were on our own. Oh, shit. If you brushed against me the wrong way, I was ready to go. Oh, yeah. And I loved it. That's the other thing. I loved it. I was not scared i loved it i was not scared of confrontation i was not scared of yeah like once your you know

your dad walks away from you it's like what the fuck are you unless you have a gun or a knife what are you gonna do and even then not we were still in i've listened I'm running. If I see a gun, I'm running. Zigzagging. I've had them both. I've had the knife one wasn't me. It was my friend was having a fair fight with a friend, and she pulled the knife. And I was like, no, no, we're not doing knives. And she's like, fuck you. And she started to come at me.

I'm like, okay. But she don't know that i grew up around because i'm out of my neighborhood i'm now on second street this is 100 irish except for one block which is mixed puerto rican and irish one block and they're all related and they already know me so we you're good i'm good I'm OK. This is this girl and I have already had our thing. We we had our fight. So we you know, we know where we are with one another kind of thing. So I was like, no, you're not pulling a knife on her.

And she came after me and she don't know in my neighborhood. I have a lot of they used to say there's something in the water in our neighborhood. Water. That we put out the most – the craziest of South Philly came from this neighborhood. And this guy, Patty, used to teach me how to take knives off people. Nuh-uh. Just because we were bored. 13 years old. He's like, all right, I'm coming at you what do you do so he would do it to me and i'd be like oh you know and i'm like damn

now i look like edward scissorhands because i got cuts all over i'm trying to take this knife i'm learning but now flash to i could have been a year or two later this girl pulls a knife and i'm like no no patty cantlin taught me this and i took it off her and she was just like and we became instant friends really titus titus but one of my best unfortunately, she's doing life in prison. That's not where I thought that was going to go. She did not learn from that mistake. She did not. Sounds like she might have took that knife back. She came from one of the craziest families.

Are you still in touch with her? No. No. We all lost touch with her. Everybody asks. What happened? I have no idea. You really don't know why she's serving? I really don't. I lost contact with her. Everybody asks. And I. What happened? I have no idea. You really don't know why she's serving?

I really don't. I lost contact with her. Oh, before that. Yeah. And and then everybody was just looking. You know how the Facebook, the social media. I thought prison may have taken her away from you. Social media, all that shit.

People are like, where is this person? Where is the person? We thought she was dead. Yeah. Because it was a lot. And her brothers were bad and in and out of jail and i think there's only one left out of them and like left alive damn yeah they were crazy god bless them but they loved me so i was like allies in this bitch and um but she somebody found out that she was in prison and i was like okay

that that at least we know she's not passed but whatever who knows now i haven't heard in years that was 15 years ago that i found that out maybe even more and uh i have another guy friend that i grew up with um nikki who's doing life in prison as well. Do you see in touch with him at all? No, no, no. We lost contact. He went in early. He went in when we were still like in the neighborhood kind of thing.

Or maybe I had just moved to L.A. because I moved to L.A. when I was 21. So maybe I had just moved out here. And then I found out a little bit later he was doing life. But we were all they were all still trying to help him. Like he would go in and out of prison. He had no parents. I don't know where his parents were. And like we would go to his house.

They had money. And so the neighbors would check on him and we would do the craziest shit with him and his neighbor. His neighbor was even more insane his father was in the mob or something like that loan shark i'm not sure exactly what happened but his neighbor was in the mob and um when his father was locked up his neighbor stevie went rented a helicopter and tried to take his father out of prison. What? Get the fuck out. I swear to God, you can look it up. They thought they were going to airlift his ass out of prison. I mean, they'll shoot that motherfucking helicopter right down.

Yeah. So Stevie was crazy. Did they actually go through with this or he got busted with the rental? I think they got busted. They got it in the air and everything. They got it in the air. They got it close to, and it got busted. They got it in the air and everything. They got it in the air. They got it close to, and it got bad. And Stevie was the one with the cars.

So he had that kind of money. So we were little and I'd be like wedged in the back of this or going on a crazy Trans Am test drive, you know, T-tops off, you know. But I was, my brothers were more in with him. I was kind of like this dirty little girl. I was like, who's that? She can break into anything. Whatever you need her for, she's cool. But my close friend became Stevie's best friend.

And then when he went to jail, I don't know if it was after the helicopter incident or. I can't. He's crazy. We used to say he was a cat because he had nine lives. He had a motorcycle accident on Broad Street and him and the girl were drug straight up the street and his whole chest was ripped off. Skin chest. She survived as well. His titties were a little smaller

than yours? If you can believe it. Remember this, Stevie? No, I'm just kidding. You know I... Listen. I'm used to the... By the way, wearing a sports bra

and pushing... How does she not get laid? Because no gender knows which one she is. Is that Caitlin? Caitlin! Is that you? So I remember – so he had some crazy incidents. But one of the worst things with him was when he went to jail.

Not not my friend, Nikki. This Nikki I was closer with because we used to have stealing contests. Me and Nikki, we were tight. Yeah. You just said I want to talk about breaking into shit and stuff after this. So I want to hear this. So Stevie and my buddy Richie became real tight, real, real tight. And they were like inseparable.

And he was a little older than us, Stevie, but Richie and I were the same age. And one day his dad was a fireman or something. And they used to hang at this bar like right outside right across the street from richie's house and so he um they go to this bar like they would come in and out of this bar a lot and i was walking down the street and i saw them running out of this bar and then all of a sudden uh it was like a ton of people out and they were by this truck, a pickup truck that the dad had. And so I was like, what the hell? That's that's Richie's dad.

You know, and I I walk over and they open the door and it's Richie on the front seat with two bullets in the back of his head and money stuffed in his mouth. No. And I was like, and I think I was 15. You saw this? I saw them open the door. I saw everybody was gathered. Apparently, the car was running. It was a hit.

It was quick. It was whatever. The money in the mouth is don't rat. Oh, he was a rat? They thought he was going to rat. He didn't rat. Because when Stevie went in. Who took the money?

This was his. This is Philly. Who took the money? I was thinking of it. I got to be honest. Somebody took that money. I was his. This is Philly. Who took the money? I was thinking of it. I got to be honest. Somebody took that money. I was like, that's a lot of wasted money. How much was it?

I don't know. I'll take that bloody money. I don't know. But it was, I remember going to his funeral. That's what that meant though. I'm sorry. Yeah. That means you're going to rat or you were thinking of ratting.

That's how they're letting everybody know the reason this dude's dead is because he was going to rat. Yeah. I've never heard that one before. Yeah, it was – Is that an old school mob thing? I've never heard that one. They didn't let me in because I'm Irish, but I do remember being like, what's with all the money? And that's – I found out.

But I was 15, I think. And the only reason I – Is this your first dead body no no first first friend friend dead body dead body you know they used to joke want to see fat larry in the trunk no i don't want to see fat larry in the trunk there would you you saw a dead body before that in like-hmm. In like what, in a neighborhood? In a trunk, yeah. For real? Yeah, that was a thing. It was all mob.

What do you mean? It was all mob run. You'd see a car on fire, a person in it, you know. In it? In it, yeah. It was all mob run. It was, you know, we would just, one of the kids I used to date, well, it wasn't dated. We were in third grade.

I'm like, what? Who wants to get in this communion dress, you know? Look at this. Boink, wink. You know, like I was a little helped. But this kid that I was kind of dating, whatever you call it at that age, we were walking his dad's house in this place, Packer Park, which we call the suburbs. Dom Herrera coined it as the suburbs of South Philly. But it was tight.

We never called it that because we were like, it's still the houses were way bigger and more expensive. But you had to go under the tunnel, like under the bridge to go into that neighborhood. We were on the other side. So it's weird because that neighborhood is there, then our neighborhood, then the playground the playground then the project so it's like it's like a third world country like what where is this is there's i don't know what middle class i don't know what anything is we just we know that's where the money is that area so we would go into packer park we were walking to packer park where his dad lived and as we were walking up the house blew up the house blew up his father's house what

are you talking about the house you're walking to yeah you could have been in there fuck his dad you could have been in there there were six of us on the way total six of you on the way give a fuck about kids or anything i i mean they wouldn't know the The parents were separated. So he was, you know, staying with his mom on 9th Street. So this was in our neighborhood, you know, when parents split up. How close are you to that? 100 yards? How close? Maybe.

You feel it? Yeah, we were at the tunnel. We could see the smoke. Yeah. We were probably 100 yards. You saw it. Insane. Yeah.

It's just burning when you get there. Burning, but the main concern was his dad not being in there right so if we were still like in shock and it was we were with his cousin no wonder you're so fucking angry maybe that's what i'm saying whole upbringing that's just the house so is it because we were outside like people are are like, you know, you learn like racism. They teach that at home, right? Yeah, that's in the home. And that is a thing. But I learned it on the street because if I came home and said, say, I dropped an M-bomb or said something negative about black kids or whatever, my mother would flip out and beat the shit out of us but what i didn't know

is she learned it because her grandmom learned it so it was passed down she learned to say certain things that she didn't realize were racist because they weren't around there wasn't a lot of black people in their neighborhood the people that were in in the projects were the Irish kids at that point when she was growing up. You know, they were just trying to come out. They were the ones trying to get out of the projects, whatever. So that was completely all white, but Irish. You know, I guess if you're going to label where they were from. And so they didn't know from that. But my grandma heard these words and they were racist words. And then my mom went to work and said them to a horrible. It's a I can't do it because it's an N-bomb, but she didn't know.

And so, you know, when you get like my mother's going to kill me if my brother Tommy finds this and plays this for her. I'm in big trouble. I'm sorry for this story. Is there a warning? No, I'm kidding. So, you know when you sweat and you get like right here, it gets like little, when you're a kid. A little dirt line. Right.

Yeah. There you go. What'd you call it? A dirt line. That's not what they called it. You went thick. You got it. You got it now. That's not what they called it. And my mother grew up saying that.

No clue of who it was offending or where it came from. No clue. I don't even think my grandmom did. I got to be honest. So because they were just struggling in their own existence. So they weren't rich kids. They weren't, you know, they lived in a neighborhood. My mom said she wasn't allowed to go on 15th Street because that's where all the drunken sailors were. That's where they used to house them. But these guys would be on leave or whatever and get drunk and it could be a fight. It could be rape.

It could be kid. It could be all kinds of shit. So my mom wasn't allowed. That's all she remembered, you know. And so she wasn't racist. So she's at work. She's sitting with her black coworker and she goes, oh, no, no. That lady, what did she do? Fight her she went that's a excuse me my mother was like the most naive sweet woman you'd ever meet not a bad word to say about anybody. Says that, the lady goes, excuse me? And my mother goes, yeah, what do you call it?

And she went, dirt. Dirt. And my poor sweet mother was like, oh, my God. And they became instant friends, lifelong friends. I'm serious. My mom invited her for dinner. She was like, you have to help me. You have to.

I didn't know. I did not know. No, her mother. We don't know shit about this. Oh, God. We didn't know shit about this. Oh, God. We didn't know shit about this. So she had this woman come over for dinner. This was from her job.

This was before she had kids. This is she worked at the quartermasters. Oh, I see. So this is before she had kids. So we weren't even in existence. This is how she had kids. So we weren't even in existence. This is how young she is. So this is why she was also so strict and stern. A hundred percent.

Because she was like, I did not know that. Because, yeah, it's learned at home. But so I wasn't, we weren't allowed to talk any of that. Like we were whatever. But in the streets, it was on. any of that like we were whatever but in the streets it was all you know we were whoever we were mad at was who we were cursing and saying whatever slurs and that went for irish polis polish italian can't even say polish that's how bad they are anyway uh you know it went for everybody you got labeled for what your nationality was it's it isn't interesting

because there was a time when we grew up where there were polak jokes 100 my dad will still tell a hundred of them i'll give you 40 i never understood why they were sort of the scapegoat of earth you know what i mean like they just made the polish to be the idiots you know what i mean they just chose them have you met him i'm kidding as my dad would say let me introduce you to glenn i'm like dad that's rude he's right here i've talked to about uh we had a restaurant there's still i think it's still there in baltimore but it's called polak johnny's it's a oh yeah we have polaks right it's a it's a hot dog a killer hot dog place and so i'm at work this is this is probably like early 2000s and I was talking about this restaurant I say I'm at this writing gig and I'm like oh yeah Polak Johnny's ladies like what'd

you just say I'm like she's like that's racist I'm like you might be right but not in this neighborhood I'm like here here's the restaurant it's called Polak Johnny's the signs all over it maybe he's Polish or the original owner was and he took it as an affectionate way to say it but i'm just telling you me are you telling me i can't go eat at that restaurant because he's racist or you tell me i can eat there but i just can't say the goddamn name of it because it's a great hot dog can i have their chili dog yeah see that's a. People own it where I come from. Yeah. You know, and I say it all the time. Very few people get all Italian and they would call themselves names all the time.

But that's where my whole that's what I'm saying. You're a guinea. I'm kidding. You're very much like my family. Like we're ball busters. We call it what we see it now coming out here listen asshole how many times and and you say that to a regular person like asshole you know i'm like what what did i say what's wrong is that we we also say it in like the form of a sentence like what are you a jerk yeah yeah let me think about that am i a jerk off you know like we say we like sister affectionate where I come from if somebody says listen asshole they love me they want me to hear what they have to say we're having a conversation

I'm apologize if you I've asked you and you've said it because we've done a few episodes together now have you been arrested yes but did we talk about it uh mostly for fighting never for never for theft no all right theft was just they would call because it was dumb shit so what's the first thing you remember stealing do you know um no not the actual first thing but i remember with my friend nikki who's doing life we had a competition in their neighborhood which is the rich neighborhood they had a big supermarket and we went in it was me nikki charlie my brother billy probably chris two both two chris's i'm not gonna say the last things um yeah don't call them out I'm good and they're still my closest friends

so okay probably them and we went in and we were like and of course I'm the only girl I'm always the only girl just the dirty girl who's ready to fight at any moment whatever are you also the youngest always too? I was younger

yeah because Billy is a year older but like a year you know nothing crazy like was nicky my age he might have been my age i forget but we because i don't remember him from school he didn't go to school he was a he was a bad kid he didn't go to school with us he was a kid we hung out with i don't even know if he went to school i gotta be honest but he was just always around and so we go to um and his parents owned a convenience store so we would go in there until they both went in and then for a bezel man or something and that's when he had no parents and so um and now he's serving life see this makes me feel good i had no parents and i'm sitting right here with you god bless sitting makes me feel good. I had no parents, and I'm sitting right here with you. God bless.

I'm sitting right here with you. See that? You had no parents. No. And from 16 on, I had no parents. Wow. No, an aunt? Well, I live with my grandmom.

Grandma. Well, we lived on our own from 16 to 18. At 18, my mom kicked us out of the house we were in, even though she would stay with her boyfriend. My brother and I went and lived. My younger brother stayed with her. My brother and i went and lived my younger brother stayed with her my brother and i went and lived with my grandma but for a year and a half and then she dropped dead in front of us in front of you i gave her cpr and all that shit so at the top of the stairs of that fucking row home in baltimore and right in front of that goddamn little bathroom oh yeah right there at the top

of the landing was the bathroom her bedroom was right there there was a hallway I was gonna say did she have a hallway to her room it wasn't even always a banister so you didn't fall over the fucking stairs coming up and then there was this room and this room where I stayed and I would have a twin I had a twin bed and a dresser

and I'd have to turn sideways to get in that motherfucker same with the middle room. See, we didn't have the narrow hallway. It wasn't a hallway. I was always jealous of that. It wasn't a hallway. Yeah, but it's like a vestibule. It's like a short-

It was 10 feet long. Before a door. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So it was before a door. Yeah. So my friend Melissa had that, and I was always jealous, like, ooh, look at this. And I lived in the basement for a while, too, like tricked that out a little bit.

Okay. Yeah, from then on, I had no real nothing. And you have a brother, a sister? Two brothers. Two brothers. A younger brother and a twin brother. And what did she go down from? A heart attack?

My dad died of a heart attack. My grandma also died of a heart attack. But your mom, you said she dropped dead in front of you. No, my grandmom did. Oh, your attack. But your mom, you said she dropped dead in front of you. No, my grandmom did. Oh, your grandma. So my mom, still alive. My dad died of a heart attack. We found him in his bed in the morning.

Then we lived on our own from 16 to 18 in this apartment where my mother had it. But she stayed. She lived at her boyfriend's. Okay. So we were alone Monday through Saturday. She'd come home Sunday for a couple hours, do laundry, and bounce. Wow. And the three of us raised each other. And then at 18, she stopped getting a check because we were minors when my father died. And at 18, she kicked us out because she no longer got the money. And my grandmom said, you can come stay with me. But only a year,

not even a year and a half into that, she dropped dead. Oh, Jesus. And then it was Dunsville for good. Jesus. But no net since Eleanor Carragher. See that? Look at you. You have any arrests? None.

Muzzle. And I'm almost 50. I'm not doing time. Okay. Good for you. Yeah, I could have been a statistic. I wanted to be a different statistic. Listen, this statistic was one of my favorite statistics for a long period of time

uh like when we did that so we had this competition who could steal the most out of this we knew where the manager was and i mean we cased the joint we went in and i thought all right oh charlie was with us i say charlie was with us charlie was with good old charlie so me charlie and billy were together a lot until Charlie started like I mean he was older than us and he started growing his hair long and listening to the rock music

and then Billy and him parted ways like hey man that's not cool we listen to Rick James and this bitch you know like so whatever it was just a you know he's growing up and growing past us so but this time Charlie was with us and he was pretty good at stealing too.

So I was like, how am I going to win this competition? It's got to be about how much things are, right? So I stole cigarettes and I'm nine at this point. And I lined my waist with cartons of cigarettes. That was when it was open. how old i am totally no i remember i talk about my buddy had the best move he would grab two walk around a 7-eleven buy a big gulp and then you know out loud but you know what i'm not going to get these and put them back but he would keep one he always grabbed two kept one It worked every fucking time. And then they started locking them up behind the fucking cashier.

Well, I may have been the reason they brought the locks in. You fucking had it. How would you do it? And how old are you? How old are we talking? I'm nine. And I put them in the elastic in my shorts. All the way around your waist.

Around my waist. Titless. Had fox tits. No, I'm just kidding. I had a it may have been like spring-ish because or fall-ish it depends but for some reason i had a bigger shirt like a sweatshirt of sorts or whatever and so i was able to hide them and uh we go out and chally's like what you get everybody's out you know what you get what you get and i'm like just keep walking just keep walking you know and behind this there's really

nothing because the navy shipyard's up there but you're all together so you just made a hit on that little it's a hit yeah it's a big hit And it's a lot of money because the cigarettes were jumping up in price. Not a lot, but like, you know, it's going to be more than a Snickers bar or whatever you steal. So I'm like. And a carton's what, 20 packs? 10. 10 packs. I believe.

So it was probably $20 back then, which is what people would kill for now. Yeah, hell yeah. And so, but I was like, okay, I'm adding. Maybe it was 15 or 20. I forget, but I remember it being a big number. And to us, it was like, oh my God. So I'm walking out. And so behind the supermarket,

you can run all the way up Broad Street to a place we call Down the Lakes, which I just, as an adult, found out that's FDR Park. No idea. Anyway, so I didn't pay attention. We call it down the lakes. I don't even know if there's a lake in there. I got to be honest.

No, there's a lake. But we would go down there, right? And nobody's down there. So that's where we're going to open our stuff. So we have a good, almost a half a mile to run to this place. And so I'm walking. I nervous and i'm i go wait wait where's nikki and nobody's shown what they have because they're wait and we're like where's nikki there's nikki and we're walking walking and out of nowhere we hear go and we're like we turn turn this motherfucker had a grocery cart filled

it curved it was and he's running and things are flying he's got the stolen shit and the fucking cart too and he's running with the cart and this is the 80s they don't have those things

it's not quiet either though you couldn't stop us we i mean we ran we were soaking wet hiding and now half his cart's gone but he's still this motherfucker beat me yeah yeah because he's got a cart so i was pissed they're like what did you get i'm like you know take a cart that's cheating a whole fucking cart we're gonna get a rest you know and i'm flipping out what did you get i'm like i got cigarettes they're like what did you get i'm like you know take a cart that's cheating a whole fucking car we're gonna get a rest you know and i'm flipping out what did you get i'm like i got cigarettes they're like what are we gonna do with those i'm like i guess smoke them and that's how i started smoking is it really that's how you started that's terrible you stole cigarettes and started down the lake we had hideout. It had food and cigarettes in there.

And we would go all the way down the lakes to have food and cigarettes. And, you know, our little, that was our little cubby hole, if you will, where we hid our shit. But I got hooked, too, smoking. What about stealing? Did you get hooked on the stealing? Did you like that? No, I hated it. And what I think, I remember the last thing I stole, I was in high school and I guess it was like makeup of some sort, maybe mascara. I'm not sure. And I put it up my sleeve, you know, and my friend Kim was with me and she was doing it too, throwing things in her pocket, like a little five-fingery.

All of us were poor, whatever. So we're just – not that that's an excuse because after this thing, I never stole again. So I get caught and they go, we're going to call your house. We're calling your mother. And I go, go ahead. Here's the number because here's what the Kerrigans did. My mom was always working. Somebody had to make money.

So we'd get a phone call and be like, yeah, I'm Mrs. Kerrigan, or yes, I'm Mr. Kerrigan, whatever it was. And we'd get- So even though maybe you all went your separate ways, everyone was on the same page when it came to a call at the house. 100%. You're Mr. or Mrs. Kerrigan. 100%. Take it.

Don't fucking rat us out. Nobody rats. I think I told. Or else you get two in the head and a fucking wad of money in your mouth. That I didn't learn until later. But before that, they hung me over the banister upside down because I. Who did? My brothers.

Why? What did you tell them earlier? Because I was going to tell my father something. I think I was six. And they held me up and they, this is what you get for rat. That's what rats get. And I was like, I think my parents could see my fingers coming out. Like, it was bad.

It is ruthless. They were like, and so I never rat. You never rat. They taught us in the house. That I did learn at home. And so we would always, you know, back each other. Edie got caught stealing. We, yes, I'm Mrs. Kerrigan.

I go pick her up. You know, I'm, my mom's stuck with a baby at the house. So she sent me and she is in big trouble. You know, the whole thing okay they let her go and again this is we were young we were so young so um this time when i saw i was in high school and they called my mother guess who didn't go to work that day nah that's the only reason i i mean, I was white as a ghost. Like, oh, shit.

I don't know why she was home. I don't remember her being home. I think she got sick at work and came home. So now she has to get on a bus and come up because she don't drive and come all the way up Broad Street and pick up jackass number eight for stealing. And then on the way home gives what I call the worst lecture ever about stealing. And then the, is it because I don't give you enough? Oh, no. Here it comes.

Yeah, right. You know, when I cry, it's like a dude crying because it don't happen. You know what I mean? I'm cold. And so when I'm like this. She's just hitting you heavy, huh? Here she goes. Right?

And I mean, I can remember the words and start crying right now. Like, it's what we call an acting sense memory. Yeah. How old? 14. And you remember everything she said? Every word. On the bus, the money she had to use to get to the bus.

What it called? How much was it called? How much was it called? I don't know. Was it 50 cents? 75 cents? But that's a lifetime for my mother. You know, this is a woman who would take all the bills back because my dad wouldn't pay them.

And, in fact, when Richie's, my friend's funeral, our lights were out. And I was 15. We didn't have no lights. Really? And I couldn't find a shirt. And I wound up, I couldn't see in the dark. And I'm going through, I mean, you've got to imagine there's all these kids up in this piles of clothes piles of clothes like where's mine where's my shirt and I we all our stuff was

together nothing was separate oh really yeah it took us long to get ready like the older kids would cut there's you know like my brother Jimmy bought a big trunk I remember his trunk we used to break in it all the time and steal his change. Anyway, he's like, I'll kill you, kid. But he would put his clothes in there, nice things he didn't want us wearing, and he would lock them. It was like a workplace. You have to lock your shit up if you want to keep it. I was looking and looking, and I remember I went out, and as I got to the church, and thank God I had a jacket on, it was a pink and black shirt. Nuh-uh. To a memorial? To a viewing, yeah. And I was like, fuck.

And I remember being so embarrassed because I had to get ready in the dark. Your lights are off. Your lights are off. It's, you know, and, oh, man. And it was the fall, so it got dark earlier, you know. And I have such a vivid memory of everything from that, from Stevie being there, from his girlfriend, Nicole, who was in the bike accident with him. I mean, I'm sorry, not Stevie, Stevie's girlfriend being there and Stevie's family, like cousins and stuff that I knew because Stevie was in jail at this point. Oh, he was. Yeah, because they thought Richie was going to rat on like things.

They thought he knew too much. So they assumed he was going to rat, but he wouldn't do that. You know, and he was very young, so he could have been, what do you call it? Maybe cohort coerced out of information you know he was 15 16 that's all right so what are you doing as a kid that's a kid what are you doing to um to work on your anger and shit do you do you go to therapy work out therapy no do work out. I have to work out. That helps. I calm you down. Running will calm me down.

Anything. Like bike ride. I'll ride my bike. Do you box or anything like that? No, I'm afraid. I did that before. Me and my buddy Rocco. Yeah, because if I get hit, I react. Here's the thing.

Rocco was like, no, we'll spar. And I'm like, i don't think you want to do that it's like the farigna you wouldn't like me when i'm angry yeah i mean but you people who sit in there listening to you right now they forget you used to wrestle oh yeah you go back see if you go back and listen to the episodes you were in was it glow no that's rude to put me that old i like it but no that means it looked good for it. Was Glow earlier on? It was the early 80s, mid-80s, I think. I was still robbing supermarkets.

No, I'm kidding. What was your league again? So it was WOW Women of Wrestling. Wow, that's good. And I played Easy Rider. And so Easy Rider was... And then I went back and did commentary for them about four years ago five years ago so i still work for wow yeah they're still around

wow is amazing um the girls now i think wrestle i mean they're good are they insane like doing just sick shit like what the fuck yeah that's what but here's the thing like we got cast as actors to play almost like the show glow you know the merit that one like when i watched that i thought oh that's what happened to me it was an audition and i was like i'm down on my luck and i did it and i got the job and when i started wrestling i was like oh shit now i gotta really wrestle but that got that was good because you're not hitting you know certain times yeah of course you get hit sure i got hurt i had a hairline fracture in my collarbone i um busted my pinky broke my pinky because selena who was training us with the mullet, she was the best.

Selena Majors, a phenomenal, phenomenal wrestler who wrestled in Japan and wrestled for years, knows every wrestler and is well-respected by all of them. She was our trainer, Selena and Peggy Lee Leather. Well, that was her name before she became my Peggy Harley's Angel. She was our gang leader. Oh, no, wait. Peggy Lee Leather was what we called her. Oh, shit. What was her famous name before that?

I forget. I'm mixing them up. But Peggy, she's also phenomenal. And her and Selena wrestled for years on the road. And so she taught us a lot. But Selena was busy training everybody else. And one of the matches was supposed to be her and I. The storyline is she has to fight me and my partner, Cholly Davidson.

Cholly. They gave me a partner. Of all the goddamn names the world could pick pick they give you the one that you say charlie tell him charlie if you watch old clips of wow you'll hear me talking shit because that's what i got hired for talking shit i'm talking shit on the mic and then i go tell him charlie and i throw the mic down like, why? And so whatever. So it's I'm Easy Rider. She's Charlie Davidson.

And then Peggy was our gang leader. So in order for Selena to fight Peggy, she had to fight both of us separately. So Selena's doing everything. She's training everybody and doing everybody's matches. Right. So I said, hey, Selena, this this is odd but our fight's tomorrow night i don't know what the match is she goes don't worry easy i'm gonna call it i'm sorry i'm sorry what was that she goes i'm gonna call it and i'm like you're gonna call what and she goes i'm gonna

whisper in your ear what moves to do i swear You're going into a match just blind, and she's going to whisper every move. Watch the match. Nuh-uh. You can see it. It's not even... Selena Majors versus Easy Rider. It is hilarious. Do you hear her saying it?

No. We're at the Forum in Englewood. Packed. Was it really? Packed. You wrestled at the Forum? in Englewood. Packed. Was it really? Packed. You wrestled at the Forum? In Englewood. So exciting. I'll bet. So exciting.

And some of the older guys used to come and see us. I met a lot of people there because they were friendly with Selena and Peggy. So it was exciting. I met Sergeant Slaughter. Yeah, yeah. Killer. So I have to wrestle in jeans. So it's already a thousand degrees.

Right. My hair stuck to my head. I got all this makeup on. I'm dressed like a biker chick. And so I'm in the corner and Selena gave me this one like thing that I used to do. And, you know, it became like a joke. The Bronco Buster was one of my moves. Right.

I didn't know, you know, she's gay and she likes me to bounce my clit on her chest. So I'm just kidding. I love you, Selena. But we would tease about it. We got so close that we would tease about it, you know, like whatever. So but that's basically what it is. You're pouncing on this person's chest. So that was definitely going to be in there.

So I knew certain things. I just didn't know when, you know. And so there is we start off lock up, you know, and she looks and she goes, OK, you know, and she calls. And I'm like, what? What? As I'm getting clothes lined. Right. And I went everything to in wrestling is to the left right because is

that right if you're right hand most people are right-handed okay so if you go to the left you're not gonna hurt the person as much so i i'm like what you say i'm on the wrong side so i get knocked the fuck out basically like i got hit hard and i'm like, oh, they're like, that was an amazing bump. And I'm like, no, she's dead. I'm dead. You know, that hurt. And I'm like, fuck. And part of me wants to hit her because of my anger. And I'm like, no, this is this is, you know, it can't be Hulk Hogan and Rocky.

You know, they don't know you just pay attention. And so I'm like, oh, my God. You know, and so I'm trying. I'm trying. I got a little bit here and there. And then she hits me with a fucking chair. And I. Are you serious?

I panic and I go, what the fuck? You know, and that's how I broke my pinky. Because I go to grab it like I'm going to hit you with the chair. Oh, you want to hit the chair? Oh, Patty Catlin. He taught me how to take knives off people. You know, I'm like, I'm pulling. So that's how i broke my pinky and she was like easy you know like but the match is hilarious and it has some of my my favorite still pictures from because she

the sunset flip was a thing i would do all the time so she pulls me in and my hair just goes all up in the air and i just flip and fly at least like all the way to the other side of the ring because I was – that was my thing. I was a good victim, whatever, like opponent because I would play dead and I could fly. So she flips me over and there's a great picture of her pulling me and my hair in the air, like midair and her muscles and mullet just out and about. I love that you did that. But yeah, that was the scariest. But what I'm saying is like when you get hit and hurt, like with the boxing, if somebody hurts me, I don't know what will happen. Like you're no longer going to box.

You're just going to fucking. I'm scared. Yeah. So I don't I have that happen. You're no longer going to box. You're just going to fucking. I'm scared. Yeah. So I don't. I have that thing where I lose it. And I. Why don't you just train it on a bag then? I could do that.

Yeah. I can do that. Yeah. Because hurting myself is great. I love that. But my brother Jimmy, he, you know, the older half took care of the younger half with us. So Jimmy, I remember he was on the phone with his girlfriend we always talk about this story because it's like this it's one of the scariest

that happened in our house and there was some scary shit so my brother billy jimmy was telling us what to do and we you know we were kind of growing you know like you telling us what to do you know we're 11 and 12 like we fucking know what we're doing you know idiots like he's telling us what to do. You know, we're 11 and 12. Like we fucking know what we're doing, you know, idiots. And Jimmy's our older brother. He's nine. He's eight years older than me. So Billy's older than me. So he's seven years older than Billy. So Billy's fuck you, you know, and he throws the Frisbee. And now Jimmy's very tough, uncomfortably tough. He throws the Frisbee, hits Jimmy in the face, and he goes, motherfucker, because he's on the phone with his girlfriend.

He goes, motherfucker, and knocks it down, and he gives Billy a look. So he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then he touched his lip, and it was bleeding. I swear he went like that. And then the phone, he didn't hang it up. He just dropped it. And the rage, me and Charlie had to go get a neighbor. I'm not kidding, to get him off of.

His own brother. He was, and I mean, beating. And we got one of the toughest guys in the neighborhood, this guy Georgie Martin, God rest his soul. We had Georgie come in and take him off. And Jimmy was like, you know, like, there's the only person that could stop Jimmy. And Georgie, I remember him pulling him and saying, Jim, look at me. Look at me. It's your brother.

That's your little brother. But we go when we go. I bet your little brother fucking learned that. I got to be honest. I don't think I've ever seen him. I don't want to play Frisbee. I'm good, man. I don't go to the beach. I don't think I've ever seen him. I don't want to play frisbee. I'm good, man. I don't go to the beach.

I don't go to the beach. I've never seen him throw a frisbee. He's got frisbee trauma. Yeah, I don't even know why we had a frisbee, but I guess, you know, we played frisbee at some point. You're the best. Listen, thank you for coming. I love it.

This is the best. Thank you for doing i love it this is the best thank you for doing audio in my kitchen when we first started this podcast oh my god that's thank you for coming back i love how it's grown this is amazing um please promote everything whatever again plug it all websites all that stuff i will uh i should look up those dates with Holtzman because it's exciting. But I am in La Jolla. What's your website? Do you have it on your website? Eleanor J. Kerrigan. Yeah, Eleanor Kerrigan.

Do you put it on your website? You said you're, I know, you got to bang a millennial so you can get those dates up. Here's the thing. I tried to update on this website and I had a nervous breakdown. So I called my friend Ari and Ari was going to help me, but Ari was busy with his podcast. So he couldn't help me. And then he learned how to do it in a second. And he's like, I'll just show you, but I had to go on the road and I left for 20 days and I did my album. My album is coming out in the summer. There you go.

All right. There's like 20 people. So, but yeah, so May 21st, 22nd, 23rd, I'm in La Jolla at the Comedy Store. And then June, June 24th through 27th, I will be with the great Brian Holtzman at the Laugh Factory. That's going to be fun. The Silver Legacy in Reno. And then I have a bunch more dates and I promise I'll update them. All right. I will sleep with Ari to get it. Not Shafir. It's a different one. Thank God.

A lot of Jews. Renee Mari. Anyway, more racism. Thank you, Eleanor. I love you. As always, RyanSickler.com Ryan Sickler on all social media. We'll talk to you all next week. wink