The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Jason Ellis - What A Trip

Episode Date: February 8, 2021

My HoneyDew this week is Jason Ellis! The former professional skateboarder, mixed martial artist, auto racer, boxer, singer, radio host discusses his sexual abuse that began at age 3. For years he believed it was an uncle but during an acid trip, Jason realized his father was the abuser! Jason shares outrageous lowlights about his sexual abuse, drug abuse, sexcapades and we discuss his pansexuality. This was a fun one! SUBSCRIBE to my YouTube and watch full episodes of The HoneyDew every toozdee! https://www.youtube.com/rsickler SUBSCRIBE to my Patreon show, The HoneyDew with Y’all, where I highlight the lowlights with y’all! What’s your story? https://www.patreon.com/TheHoneyDew SPONSORS: STITCH FIX Get started today at stitchfix.com/HONEYDEW and you’ll get 25% off when you keep everything in your fix! That’s http://stitchfix.com/HONEYDEW for 25% off when you keep everything in your fix. HARRYS For a limited time, Harry’s has an exclusive offer for listeners of my show! New customers can get a Harry’s Starter Set and a FREE Body Wash for just $3 at HARRYS.COM/HONEYDEW. That’s over a $16 value for just 3!

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I'm very excited to have this guy on today. No doubt has some fucking stories for us. First time here on The Honeydew, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome Jason Ellis, y'all. Yes, finally. Welcome to The Honeydew, my friend. I've been watching it for like a couple weeks now. I'm like, man, you got really, really famous people on here.

You sure you got the right Jason Ellis? I'm like, wow, that guy's huge. Fuck, it's a bad show for you, I guess. Got to like fill the gaps. It's a down week, bro. This is a sponsor-free week. Same thing when I did Burt Cass the other day. I'm like, man, shit must be fucking low.

Well, I'm stoked to have you on. And we've been talking before. I'm excited to get into it. But before we do, please plug everything. You got a new show going? All of it, please. Yeah, the Jason Ellis Show is now a podcast. So the Jason Ellis Show is available where all podcasts are.

And it's on YouTube. I do a solo show called Awesome World and then we have a Patreon for the Jason Ellis Show and for Awesome World where we do two live shows a week. I do two of mine by myself and then two Jason Ellis shows a week. And then I have, it doesn't really matter, I have the Tony Hawk Show and the MMA Show on Monday. The first Ultimate Friends Conversation comes out

with myself and Ellen Joban. But the JasonEllis.com with myself and Ellen Joban. Okay. But the JasonAllis.com is the website that shows all that stuff. Anyone wants to go there or at Woofmate on Instagram. The Woofknives, WoofknivesStore.com. That's my clothing line. I think that's really – it's weird because I'm in the middle of not really having a job. I'm not really sure who I'm supposed to be plugging yet because I don't know what's happening.

You're a free man right now. I think Onnit likes me still. Somebody gave me some liquid death the other day, but I don't know if they really like me. I like the drink. Well, thank you for coming on. The Tonyk thing you were telling me about sounds so awesome i you know i'm 47 i grew up idolizing tony hawk on a skateboard still do his board is still the badass of all the boards and uh he has all the different ones still did you know that no like all the errors of him yeah because i i asked one for my new studio and he said which one do you want and i you know i don't i skate but not like i'm not in the loop

anymore and i'm like i don't know like how many have you got he's like i got like every error and i'm like shut the you give me the fucking 90s one dude like the fucking yeah and he's like boom signed at my house so it's on the wall in the studio. Wow, fuck yeah. Those – apparently you can get those anywhere. His Twitter is great because it's like – it's honeydew stories. It's all these being just – we were talking about this. He'd be a great guest on here, an icon in your fucking world and just being shit on by these people that unintentionally like, you kind of look like Tony Hawk.

Yeah, I am. No, you're not, man. To say it that much that often that that many people say you look like tony hawk never just pull the trigger on you're tony hawk like what are the odds i don't know what are the fucking odds the guy looks exactly like him or it's him it's weird that most people you look like him he has so many of those stories or you got older which is like no shit what year is it man he's in what his 50s now still hitting the boards like that he skates almost every day if the only time he doesn't is if he has to go do something but he has a ramp that's the studio is going to be at his ramp so

that means i get to skate again i got a uh mcl cadaver like knee replacement about six weeks ago and six months ago. So my knee is about to work again so that I can actually ride a skateboard. You got a dead body part in there? Yeah. Wow. What's that like? It's fucking awesome. I'm a zombie.

I'm a fucking zombie, man. It's fucking sick. I'm part zombie. Yeah. And I'm part carbon fiber. Wait. What's the one where you shoot and it blocks the bullets kevlar i've got fucking kevlar in there in their knee yeah kevlar knee it's like wait the actual knee cap is kevlar no like the thing that bonded the dead person to me okay it's

kevlar all right so you know it's stuck in there. Man, did you skate the big ramps and shit? I went second person to jump the mega ramp. You were second? Oh, fuck. I went to the – Danny Wayne. I was the – like when Danny built it. He was like, let's go.

Let's get out here. You're a different breed, man. I had a friend of mine that's an engineer for the X Games, and I went to Minneapolis X Games. I think it was two years – well, last year for sure because of the corona, but the year before that. And he's like, you want to go up to the top? And I was like, fuck yeah.

I got up to the top. The elevator? Yeah, the cage elevator that I was already like, this is making me nervous. They're going up left and right, and then I'm out there on the side, holding on to the side, just peeking over, and you guys are dropping in and going off that shit. But how do you practice the landing on something like that? How do you practice that?

You don't. Because I watch guys like Travis Pastrana do flips into, like, foam pits and stuff. Are you doing that at first to get used to the distance? No. Never? No. When Danny invented the mega ramp, I was on DC as more of, of like the court jester who was also

good at skateboarding but harmless enough to be right alongside danny because if you were as good as danny you weren't going to be allowed to ride the mega ramp like he was this is his thing and rightfully so he invented this crazy ramp maybe there was like three other people that could have jumped it but fuck them he made it up yeah but he knows jason's kind of good he's ballsy but he's not that talented so when he comes maybe jason will make a trick it won't be anything that i do so i don't have to sweat him and i'm me and danny are friends but he'd been there he built it and then he's like gotta come out let's do it and i was like fuck yeah i'll do it i was terrified but i was also uh it's a million dollar ramp somebody built a million dollars worth of skateboarding utensils

and i'm like and i'm like it's like animal chin but but you know to the point where it was so creatively awesome that i forgot that there was any pain involved in it like i didn't realize until the first time i went down it how much how i showed up with a basketball jersey on because i used to skate with a basketball jersey it's fucking looser i can move better and in mega ramp you don't fucking wear a tank you don't show flesh because it comes off yeah when you fall there the masonite just and it takes everything off it takes clothes off takes pads off i've melted my shoe into my toenail on that ramp now that's the other thing 50 mile an hour that's what i was gonna ask you how fast you're going and

then to watch these guys also they would mess up but they would mess up perfectly on their knee yeah that's it there's a way to learn how to fuck up and i was like god damn so this is the last question because i want to get in your story but what was the actual distance you jumped oh there's a there's a you're 50 miles an hour it's a 50 footer and a 70 footer so i only jumped a 50 footer in but in mexico city i did a uh a 24 backslider and the and the quarter pipe is way harder than the gap. The gap's easy. Oh, really?

Yeah, and especially for the gap, if you go straight, the wind gets under your board and it makes it harder. If you do a 360, either way when you spin, it cuts through the wind and it keeps you level. So it's easier to do a 360

than it is to do a straight air. Oh. So you do the three, no problem. There's no G forces in that because it's all sort of, the roll-in's in here. Like if you're a fucking pro, you should be able to go 50 mile an hour

and stand there picking your nose. Like what the fuck is your problem? Why are you wobbling? What's wrong with you? So we can do that part and then you land over the jump. And to me, I've got motocross background, so it was easy for me to put my mind in flying through the air 60 feet because dirt bikes do way more than that.

You don't even have to be good to do that. But the quarter pipe, when you're 220 pounds, the quarter pipe is it goes and then you get shot up because there's real weight. Like, geez, hit you when you hit that curve. It looks like the perfect storm because it's 24 quarter pipe. So you just hit that at like 50 mile an hour and you go way past where you usually go to the point where you can't read

where your landing is until you're on your way back down so there's terror there's a lot it was like a lot of pressure to get used to it but it was the greatest feeling i've ever had in skateboarding so it was totally worth it. That jump. Not the best trick I did. Just when I had it down and I could do a 360, like fucking 60 feet. And land and go whack. And just go fucking and sit up there. Yeah.

Like I jumped out of a plane. Yeah. You know, like, and then there's all this time and then. Does it slow down? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it feels like you're flying. Yeah. and then there's all this time and then does it slow down? oh yeah so it feels like you're flying it's the ultimate to me because it depends on what you're into

in skateboarding skateboarding is for everybody there's street skating I wanted to go fast and I wanted to go fucking high I wanted to grind as powerfully as possible that's what I wanted to do I wanted to do body jars

where I smash my fucking board on the top of the I was like aggressive guy I wanted that felt good to me but it wasn fucking board on the top of the... I was like an aggressive guy. I wanted... That felt good to me. But it wasn't... It's not like that popular. But Mega Ramp was right up my ass.

My alley. That goes up later. We'll get into that later. We should probably get into that right now. Yeah, while we get into that. Speaking of my ass, yeah. God damn it. What a segway.

I pulled the trigger too soon it's getting to that well we were talking before the show and and you have quite a history so we said fuck it let's just start chronologically here so why don't you jump into uh very early on and what what happened okay so it's not bad anymore. It's great. Everything's great. But, yeah, there was a little bit of a thing. I think my parents, my dad was 20, my mom was 16 when I was born.

So they were really young. Total accident. I think they partied a lot. And maybe a babysitter made me blow him a couple of times. And then I tried to rat him out. But I thought it was my father. Because I don't remember any of this until I took a bunch of LSD and speed at a skateboard demo in Australia when I was like 23. And then I had an invisible friend in a pool.

Everyone left the pool at the hotel, and my girlfriend at the time watched me have a conversation with an invisible friend who told me my father molested me. No. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't, I remember seeing Oprah shows going, man, molested people get,

people get molested. That is heavy. I'm really lucky. Nobody did that to me. Turns out fucking people were shoving shit at me all the time. And I was so freaked. I fucking blocked it out until the all the drugs brought it back which makes sense now because i've done mdma therapy and all this other ayahuasca where i'm like oh this shit if you do it it's gonna it brings back the stuff no

matter how hard you try to block it'll come back so there's a little bit of the babysitter and the babysitter didn't die my father's a very aggressive person who i've seen like beat someone senseless for cutting them off on the on the road so fuck you with your son and not die tells me that maybe maybe he didn't do it i don't remember for sure but then uh i knew about these i had to real fast uh when i was a little bit older in a better house there used to be a heat lamp that would come into the room like a big round heat lamp someone would carry it at night so it was super dark and all I would see is the heat big this big round radio glow yeah so people would somebody was on back on my back and I had my hands under my pillow and they were trying to do stuff and I would just pretend I was asleep.

And then I started to figure that out. This is from the MDMA therapy where I started to realize more about what this heat lamp, because I remember the heat lamp, but I don't know why. Then it escalated into, I figured out how to, I went under the bed and held onto the springs

with my fingers and my toes and I pulled myself off the ground. So I was under the mattress and then that lamp came right up to the bed, and I said, please stop. And the lamp turned around and went back. And in my mind, he went back to his bedroom and realized that I wasn't into it, and this was like something that was bad. I don't feel like people knew.

I don't think he knew how fucked up it was like i feel like he was just so horny and looking for anything and didn't have the outlets that people have today and was and and had no care for repercussion like it was just like if it comes down to it i'm coming you know i mean that that's it which I feel in my bones. I have that where I could just easily have sex with absolutely anybody at any time and be like, yep, sweet. How's that? I'm like, I don't know. Good, bad. Good.

See you later. I'm ready to go all times. So knowing that was – Now are you an only child? No, I've got two half brothers. Were you sharing a room at that time or just you by yourself there? Yeah. So this is the younger times before they kind of started to show up.

And he's 20 and your mom's 16? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so when that finally – when I realized it was him, that wasn't until I was 40 and I went to rehab because I – Your father. Yeah. I thought I was molested by this babysitter. I see.

So the whole time you're thinking it's – you knew the molestation was going on, but you're thinking it's someone else. Well, this is the other thing. So at the time when I did all those drugs and my girlfriend called my mom and said, Jason's saying he was molested by his father. And she goes, oh, my God, I thought he forgot about that. Forgot about – what are you talking about? So now I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I thought just acid was fucking with me. What are you talking about?

I'm on the old couch. You're saying he really fucked with me? So that makes it way worse. Terrible. I'm sorry. I thought he forgot. Oh, my God. So I call her, and I'm like, what the fuck?

Wait, your dad died? No, he's alive at this point. Oh, he is? Okay. He's dead now. But at that her and I'm like, what the fuck? Your dad died? No, he's alive at this point. Oh, he is? He's dead now. But at that point, I was staying at his house. I live in America and I stayed at his house when I was in Australia. So I get up in the morning and he's there and he goes, do you think he got molested? And I go, yeah.

He goes, you think it was me? And I go, nah. And he goes, right. That's it. Never spoke again of it. of it never like who do you think it was not one question this is your kid and i did not think about that until later on in life where i'm a dad and now i and now i'm like wait you would not stop the conversation. This is nowhere near over. This is fucking – oh, my God. We're just getting started. Where? Who? Like people are going to die right now.

What the fuck? Yeah. Go skate. Oh, you think it was me? No. All right. We're good. And that's it.

Wow. That was a bad tell as well. And in the end – so when this comes out when I'm 40, my brother is not – my little brother passed away the same year my dad passed away. Whoa. So that was really – that was probably the same year my dad passed away. Whoa. So that was probably the hardest shit we've had to deal with. So then my other brother, who's in Australia by himself with his mom, my stepmom, who's a nice lady. She was mean to me when I was younger, but I almost don't blame her.

Because, once again, those are different times. And if you were a stepmom, you could say you fucking hated your kid. It wasn't – you didn't know that you were doing – You're the evil stepmom anyway. You didn't know. I feel like everyone has a little bit of therapy. The internet – you know if you tell a kid he's a piece of shit, it's not good.

Don't do that. I think at one point some people were like, I'll make some tougher. You know what I mean? It's good for them. That's what I think my thought was happening. So when that first came out, it was more of the Stern show, and they don't know the Stern show,

so they're getting like a piece of a piece of the story, and then the book has got stuff in there, so now I'm talking to them about it, and they're like, well, we don't think he did it. And I'm like, I don't think you know what dad was like because I know that they didn't know before he passed away. He was doing live sex shows secretly. Like he used to cheat a lot.

And then in the end, at one point he left, was engaged to a stripper who was working at the same club that my girlfriend was working at. Get the fuck out of here. So I knew all the scoop of all of it and then he had a half the house had hydroponics because he was fucking uh selling weed to get extra money like all of a sudden now he's a fucking drug deal none of us know any of this and he's doing live sex shows now what do you mean like fucking go to a club

fucking people in front of people also not can not internet actual yeah live live stream no this is before that this was he died in like 2001 or some shit so he would just go fuck somebody in front of a crowd apparently i didn't fucking know any of this shit there was a couple of sketchy instances that would blow my fucking mind if i'm finding this shit out wasn't his mind blowing when you know the guy? Sure, sure. There was times, one time, because I fucked his best friend's sisters, all three of them. Your dad's? Yeah, and he fucked two of them.

And I didn't even, like at one point, I'm working at his computer store. And I go, guess who I fucked last night? And he's like, who? I'm fucked last night and he's like who i'm like jenny he's like jenny and i'm like yeah she comes to the fucking club vip uh i got an emergency in the nightclub for jason ellis and i come to the phone and it's her saying come out i've got a tag i'm in a taxi and it's some lady that's married to a friend of my dad's who is now wants to fuck me on the beach on the way back to her sister's house who i'm fucking right now so she cheated on her sister on with me so i'm fucking both the sisters and i tell my dad because we're at this where we've never had a relationship that

it's like normal clearly yeah so i was a thing where i was like you're never gonna guess who i fucked last night he goes you're fucking joking me i'm like no why and he's like i'm fucking going to dinner with her tonight and i'm like man my brothers were both my brothers were alive at the time my that's my brother's mom you're cheating on you know i mean i don't really like her but not like that like that's not fucking cool now i'm not gonna tell lee and see like you're cheating on you know i mean i don't really like her but not like that like that's not fucking cool now i'm not gonna tell lee and steve like you're just telling me like where like this and they're not which is not it was just a bad run all the time and then every at one point he picked me up in his speedboat he bought a speedboat with the outdoor engine uh outdoor because he figured

the outboard was faster and he was trying to get to 100 mile an hour. And right now it did 98 mile an hour. That wasn't good enough. And he was trying to get different propellers to get that fucking extra two cranks. Fucking idiot, dude. So he's wasted and he hits me up like, get on the boat, Jay. And I'm like, what boat? What are you talking about? And I meet him on the shore somewhere and he's there with this chick who's it's even more it's like

the the sister that fucked me on the beach her husband's sister jesus so she's in the mix now with this other dingbat that i don't know so dad's fucking this other dingbat that i don't know in a speedboat with this other chick who's my friend now his friend's sister i've already fucked his wife and now i'm gonna fuck his sister jesus christ and it's not my fucking i did not you mean i didn't wake up and go man fucking you mean i'm working my way into some fucking family pussy here yeah so at one point i remember going flat out on that boat and yeah you don't have a family tree you got a family pussy yeah it's just all about fucking man my dad was a

fucking machine that's why i was trying to tell them you don't like you don't know you think it's crazy he would fuck with me when i was a kid like he fucked everything man and i think the other thing is in these apparently you could hire him to come over and fuck your wife get the cuck shit he was into that back then apparently apparent mike, the co-owner of the business who ended up owning it when my dad passed away, who I used to work with when I was a kid to get the money to get a ticket to America, like that's how long I've known this dude. And now this dude's the owner of my dad's shop. He tells me right after my dad dies about this shit.

He said he called the number at one point to fuck with my dad to say, do you do gay shit? And my dad was like, no, don't do that shit. Sorry, mate. And then Mick was like, yeah, you fucking do. And then they laughed. But I totally think that my dad was bi. There was a gay bathhouse next to the store.

And I didn't know this. It was called Steamworks. So I walked past steamworks for several years steamworks with the with glass but blackboarding behind the glass i'm like never thought never thought and then when i got when i started to uh experience my homo side like well all of a sudden this comes out from uh taking drugs i go to a gay nightclub and someone goes oh the steamworks next thing you know i'm at the front of a place this comes out from taking drugs. I go to a gay nightclub and someone goes, oh, the Steamworks. Next thing you know, I'm at the front of a place where I'm like, that's my dad's store.

It's right there. I'm like, fuck, man. And my grandfather for sure molested my dad. This is my theory. Okay, all right. And he was a fuck. I guarantee this is my theory. I never looked at the books, but the Steamworks had the fucking Ellis family were signing in.

I reckon there's a fucking 40-year fucking gay off, secret gay off. This fucking generation to generation of fucking no one's looking, no one's looking into the scene works. I'm not gay. I'm not gay. Like, fucking get over yourself. Here's the thing about the hiring. It trips me. I guess I'd be a bad businessman because if someone's like, would you come over and fuck my wife?

The answer for me is either yes or no. I wouldn't even think about getting paid to do it. You know what I mean? You can hire me to fuck your wife. I was like, you don't – Like you get to fuck my wife. The internet is not out yet enough like that, but I think that – But live sex shows. that but i think that but live if a guy wants to watch a guy and pretend he's not gay by what hiring a guy to fuck his wife so he can play around with the guy while it's happening i've

been involved in those like i've had guys that are in like sleep with my wife and then they're grabbing my balls yeah fuck it grab it on your next thing you know they're they're pulling it like they're pulling it out of her pussy and putting it in their mouth and i'm like all right well fucking i guess we're hanging out holy shit that's happened to me a bunch of times a bunch of times like i swear the gaydar goes it's like when you don't even know you when i was young i didn't even know i had it it would just all of a sudden i'd get into little things where i'm like what that's not what i came here to do. But I never knew the difference.

I got a million questions. What – did you lose your virginity to a boy or a girl first? Oh, no. The first girl that I agreed to sleep with was the last day of 1983. So I think I was 11. She was 16. She had hair on her pussy. I was tripping.

Yeah, that is trippy. That didn't last long. When you first see. I don't know if I had to give myself, which is so duty. You know what I mean? Like have to rape myself immediately for sex. I would give myself a one because it was like, oh, my God. No one's got a great out of the gate.

I was freaking out. I thought I'd become a man. But you said something very specific. The first woman I agreed to have sex with. So let's go back then because when did you first – I guess I shouldn't even say lose your virginity. When's the first time you had sex? The first time I sucked a dick was when I was three. It's a t-shirt, right? We'll get that up in the merch store for you.

Somebody please help me and buy my t-shirt. The first time I sucked a dick, I was three. How do you – I don't even remember. Way bigger than mine. I remember four, five moments. Yeah. I don't remember any. I remember one thing when I was three where I ate a cigarette at a party and was like, wow, those aren't tasty.

And then somebody saying, I'll suck your dick and then you suck mine. How old was this kid? Do you even know? Three or four. Oh, so you say what? No, there's a guy doing that to me. How old is this? It was a man? man yeah like 30s

25 yeah i just assumed it's another kid an older kid a 10 or 12 no i never never had sex with anybody my age until i was like 18 holy shit a 30 year old man man when i was how does that happen what do you mean i don't because because there's fucking creeps and people are, my mom, I don't want to blame her. Are you at a party? She partied a lot, but I think it was a neighbor who came over and babysitted me who was like, sweet, I'm going to play this game with this kid. Jesus Christ. One of my mom's boyfriends fucking tried to keep me at a party and offered me crystal meth, but it was called speed when I was a kid, but was 10 dude and i knew offered it to you yeah like because i was tired and i wanted to leave so he came into the room because i was watching tv and tried to offer me he's like i could give you

something to you know get you going wake you up a little bit he said he said he fucked up he said but promise me you won't tell your mom and i'm like that sounds like you're giving me drugs that's good i'm telling my mom immediately yeah so holy fuck there's some bullshit dude i remember my mom with that guy fucking shooting up heroin in the middle of the living room and her screaming at him and me seeing a dude shoot up i'm like fuck who would do that to themselves that kind of um it was a good thing because i mean i did eventually shoot up one time but i really didn't give a fuck by then you know i mean it was almost like waving a gun around my face i was like whatever like i was like i give a fuck i've done my job so what's the next incident then if If you're three, then when – So three is – then there's like five, six.

I think the end of it probably was about – I mean I don't know my age. I just know that in the end I was definitely a boy, not a man, but a boy that had voiced that he didn't want this to happen anymore. I also acted out with my brother. He didn't even know that. I had to tell him. And it's like, why would you act out with your brother? Because someone was doing that to me. Two people were doing it to me, as far as I know.

Your dad and that sitter. Yeah. So there was all the tangle up where it was just the sitter. But just like that imaginary friend told me from the get-go was it because what he did to me it's bad it's funny like all the scales because there's two there's these other women that were my dad's um wife's best my stepmom's best friends who slept with me when i was underage and it's not the same because i was like fuck yeah i want to fuck these chicks most of all three of them were pretty hot. One was real hot.

How old? Like 35 or something, man, and I was like 15 and 16. Whoa. One night, one of them tried to suck me off in the bathroom, and I came out going, what the fuck was that? And then this other one is like, hey, come in and talk to me. And she's in the spare room, and'm fucking fucking my dad's best friend's wife i guess they broke up but still i'm like this is a person that at one point could you imagine my

diaper could you imagine your ex-wife goes and fucks no no not at all exactly what the fuck's going on but i but it makes me a kid you it's normal, and then the older you get – like when I got married to my children's mother – Yeah, 15 or 16, you probably feel like a fucking king. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when I got to be here, freedom, man. I was by myself when I was 17 in America. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened.

Greatest six months of my life, without a doubt. So multiple women also – Yeah, but they don't count as much. six months of my life without a doubt. So multiple women also. Yeah, but they don't count as much, but it's like you do the damage of the, of the early ones. And then you get to that one and you go, fuck,

I guess I really do have to analyze that. Cause I think I treated women, uh, in a disrespectful manner for a long period of time, because I just thought that that's how you roll. Like everybody just wants to fuck. Right. And then like, of course I'm not going to go out with you. Like everybody just wants to fuck, right? And then like, of course, I'm not going to go out with you.

Like, do you love me? Yeah, sure, whatever, if you want me to tell you that. But we just fuck. Like that's all we do because that's all I was taught really. Not on purpose, but it definitely made my relationships terrible. Terrible boyfriend boyfriend terrible husband you know in years of therapy otherwise i would be for sure single like for sure yeah my wife now is she needs trophies for sure well good for you for doing the work and putting the fucking time in right what um how old were you when you got married uh the because i've been married three times oh you

have yeah yeah the first one was you're young to be married three times yeah it was really stupid i was going out with this chick for like seven years she was so hot like like penthouse pet and shit and then she cheated on me with this guy and the person that told me was this other girl that worked at the strip club who looked exactly like my girlfriend but younger she all of a sudden befriended me was like i gotta tell you fucking libby's fucking this other guy and i'm like what really and i'm like fuck and he was a kickboxer which burnt more because i'm like i was i thought i could kill anybody i'm like i probably can't kill it like i hit him with a skateboard but i don't know if that's gonna work run over with a car i don't have any moves yet so that fucking stung as well but then her and i got into it so i just immediately jumped out of that into this

so wholeheartedly that i was like we should just get married and then we've had a full-on wedding like castle in australia like fucking 60 people or something maybe 100 i don't know a lot of people serious thing she hated um her mom's used to hang out with chopper you know chopper reed yeah yeah so she's friends with chopper reed kind of girl so she's a smoking bongs still like bongs dude and she was when i was married she was i don't know 55 and she's like yeah i'll be back in a second mate and she'd come out like and i'm like fuck you think you're like like i'm i fucking smoked a bomb before i came here like you fucking smoke weed she just didn't want to share it no no but her because of that my wife her fucking daughter

No, no, no, but because of that, my wife, her fucking daughter, hated it. So when we met, I was on Molly when we met. Now I'm not allowed to smoke weed. So then it became this thing where we got married, and then all these things changed, like the story, where not all women do this, but when we got married, she was just like, nah, I don't give a fuck what you want. This is how it's going to be because she'd have two sides. She was very cute, and she'd be like, yeah, I really like things and stuff,

and they'd be like, listen here, cunt, I'll fucking snap. I know that bit. Right? I know that bit. I'm from the outback, man. I know that fucking tone. That's usually like a dude, which also makes me realize it was a father. She had a father thing on me.

She was doing what my dad did, which fucking scared the fuck out of me to the point where she used to beat me. It kind of escalated, but every now and then it'd be a punch to the face, and I'd be like. All right, hold on. What's the first time she hit you? What was it like the very first time? I mean hit you. Like really where you were like. Yeah, no, I got it.

No, I never forget these ones. So we lived in this place in Carlsbad by the sea, this weird little shitty apartment that had a little stove or whatever. And we're doing blow still. And I think something happened where we're arguing in the end about something. And I was like, whatever. Fucking get over yourself. And she just went, bam, and just cracked me right on the chest.

Close fist punch. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, no one fucking does that. I don't give a fuck who you are. You can't do that. I'm fucking getting a divorce. And she grabbed me by my fucking

she's like fucking 115 pounds like fucking this little spot like fucking like she's got a chunky booty but like she's just a little button listen you fucking cunt you won't be fucking leaving me i'll be fucking i'll tell you when you fucking leave me and And I'm like, what are you? Who are you? Who's this? I'm like, no, I'm definitely. You got to go to anger management. Fuck your anger management, cunt. I'll fucking kill you.

And then eventually those shots got to where I started to figure out she would throw punches a lot now. And if I ducked too many or got my hands in the way, it would just keep going. and if I ducked too many or got my hands in the way, it would just keep going. So whenever it started to happen, I would just fucking drop my hands and put my face in and let her land them. Come on. Yeah, because it would end quicker.

It happened so much, dude, that in the end I would be like, and it'd be like, and then, you know, because she just wanted to get a good, like, smack it, you know what I mean? Like, fucking dumb cunt. And I'd be like, you've got to be good with that, right? Like, that one fucking cracked. And then it's usually good.

Holy shit. But the end one was DC flew me to Aspen. You know, Jason, pro skateboarder, is going to sign autographs at the fucking bar with some other pro athletes. And she's like, I don't want to go. Just be back by midnight. I'm like, okay, sure. So I go to the bar fucking you know i'm in partying drinking with everybody and i come back at two wasted and

when i open the door she's like what the fuck you know it's fucking two and i'm i just didn't i forgot who i was talking to just fucking because everyone loved me at the bar, you know. Everyone was like, he's the best. And I'm like, I have to like. Tell that bitch upstairs on the third floor. Pretty much saying, I can say anything right now. Everyone's going to love it. You know, and I was like, fuck you.

I just said that. And then. Oh, man. Wasn't even looking. And then foot to the. Foot. To the nuts, like fucking straight kick to the dick, dropped me to my knees, and then straight fucking up kick to the face. Damn! And this is before my boxing career.

So I was new to that. So, you know, and it's's like where the fuck am i and then as i'm starting to come to i start to feel this rat-a-tat-tat on my head she's still hammering me i'm on my hands and knees trying to like stay up and she's standing in front of me raining on me screaming christ so i go into the living room and go sit on the couch. And she comes to the living room. She's like, what the fuck are you doing? Am I going to sleep on the couch?

Get in the fucking bed. Oh, my God. And this is how much, this is how done I was, dude. I got up and got in bed. You're crazy, dude. I don't even know who this dude is. That's how many things I've gone through. i don't even know who this dude is that's how many things i've gone through i don't even know that guy like that guy you idiot shame on you but i went to bed i woke up in the morning my pillows covered in blood dude like i got fucking work like a blood

black eyes and uh this photographer guy i'll never forget it he's a really nice guy i didn't like him that much because he didn't skateboard or really like – he wasn't pro, and it was back when if you weren't pro, I kind of was like, you don't get us. And he was kind of handsome, and I was like, what a pussy. So it was like a combination of that. I didn't hate him. I just was like, fuck the kook.

But he was in the room next to me because DC paid for all these rooms in this hotel. I heard all this shit. So he heard it, and he's like, I'm in the room next to me because dc paid for all these rooms in this hotel so he heard it and he's like i'm in the bus the next day and he's like hey man can i talk to you for a second and i've got no fucking idea dude i'm like yeah what what's going on it's like hey man i was i heard that last night i don't care how big you are or what it is like that's unacceptable you cannot accept that you need to get out of there. She needs to go. He's like, I took some great shots here.

Yeah, he didn't get it. That would have been better if he had proof. Evidence, bro. But it was still a thing where he saw it and he told everybody else because I used to joke about it, and I think everybody thought that I was joking. So that one, she did that one, and then she did another one in public. In public?

In front of my roommate. We lived in a pro skateboarder, Matthias. He owned a big house, and I rented a room there with her. And this is back in that pot smoking thing where I went to my friend's mini ramp skating. Ellis, you want some weed? I'm like, fuck yeah, I want some weed. So I smoked some weed, and then I got to go back to the house. So I'm like, I'll put some shades on.

I'm not smart, man. Not very good at lying. That's why I play this game different now. I'm just like fucking gay. I'm weed all the time. Hate me. Leave me. I'm not going to hide anything.

So I walk in and she goes, why you got sunglasses on? I'm like, I don't know. Just fucking feel like whatever. I sit down in front of the computer and start playing a video game on my stomach in front of the TV. She's like, take your fucking sunglasses off. I'm like, I don't need to take my sunglasses off. And Matthias is sitting on the couch next to me. And she's like, fucking take them off.

And I go, there. You fucking happy? Sunglasses are off. Back to playing video games. She jumps in the air behind me and lands on my head she fucking she fucking kicked the back of my head holy shit dude and then started stomping me and as i'm getting stomped i look up and i see matthias running up the stairs left me left me there to get destroyed but that was the when he told people and that other guy

told people then that was when i had some friends say did you that you cannot take that you cannot do that so then that was when i was like i gotta so how did you get the divorce how the fuck did you get out of that without getting killed i had an agent and a manager from being a pro skateboarder so they helped me um kind of do the the payment the payment thing like without a lawyer they said you know we'll just give them we'll give you that if you're okay with it and she took that and uh every now and then she came over to my house and tried to attack me or the girl that i was sleeping with so that kind of went for about maybe six months my baby

mama at one point was at the house and she came in she had the garage clicker still so she came through the garage clicker and i tell my i tell my girlfriend get the fuck out of here she gets in the car and as she gets in the car i go out there and as the car's driving off, my ex is chasing her. Come on. Running after the car. Like, fucking, what's that, Liquid Terminator guy? Fucking. And I'm like, what the fuck? Liquid Terminator.

That guy just doesn't stop, dude. He's the cop, yeah. Yeah, he's got that hand just. I don't know what his shit is. Looks like he's pulling dicks. Oh, shit, she ran after the car. This bitch is crazy so then she the car obviously is faster than her on foot so she gives up turns around sees me yeah fucking god and i'm

like what are you gonna do and she gets to the driveway and just starts kicking my truck because i'm like well at least you're not gonna hit me yeah and then she got in the car and drove off so little things like that and then she fell in love with an actor in Hollywood. And then I was free. Oh, and that was when, because I'd told her that I'd had some bisexual, some gay encounters. And then when we broke up, she was at a wedding with my friend, Carrie Hart and Pink. And she was telling Pink and Carrie Hart, did you know that your friend's a fag? Nuh-uh. And that's when Carrie reached out to me and was like, just so you know that your friends are fag nah and that's when carrie reached out

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So you never had, you never pressed charges. You never called the police. None of that. No. So you just took the, how long, how long were you together?

Oh, um, maybe total three years the marriage was maybe a year and that was the the bashings ever since we got married i'd say probably the last eight months was when the bashings but once she jumped to another guy it all stopped for you that's when i got released and you didn't nothing's ever come back knock on wood disappeared never seen i don't even know. Yeah. Never heard of her. Don't know what's going on. So then how old are you when you get married a second time?

This is 30s. So it wasn't that bad of an idea to – this is after her. I was like, look, I smoke weed, play video games, I skate. Every now and then I do some rails. Definitely not a father. We can hang out. And she got pregnant. games i skate every now and then i do some rails uh definitely not a father you know but we can hang out and uh she got pregnant and i said uh you know whatever you want to do i respect it and i'm here to support you i said i know you know me and i know you know that i'm not a good dad so i'll give you that you know like if all of a sudden you're like hey step up to

the plate and I'm not doing a great job I warned you trust me it's gonna be the greatest father you've ever seen I said we're gonna come in look I'm damaged man I didn't even realize how damaged I was back then but I had a good idea that it wasn't a good idea to have kids with me. So she was like, I need to have that kid. And it was a bit of a lockdown thing she did because she really wanted me back then. And we had my daughter, which I – So you got married after you had your daughter? Yeah. Okay.

I got married after I had my daughter and made the full commitment to fatherhood. And I learned from her parents what it's like to be a fucking normal person and a caring human being. So I kind of wasn't – it was like hard times because at one point I lived at their house to try and save money to get a house. So that was not like the glory years at all for me. But I did also watch – oh, oh man it made me realize how fucking uh screwed up my childhood was like and i don't blame my stepmom was definitely trying to hold it together as a because she's a human with consideration for others my father just plowed

through life and i think she just sort of back then you just went along with it. You didn't really have a say. So, yeah, those people meant a lot to me and influenced me a lot, which also made me realize you're probably wrong. This is probably you. You got a lot of damage, and you fucking idiot, if you don't fix it, it's going to go on your kids. It's a humbling moment, and, yeah, it's not only going to go on your kids. It's never going to stop for you either. You're don't fix it it's gonna go on your kids it's a humbling moment and yeah it's not only gonna go on your kids it's never gonna stop for you either and you're gonna pass it to them they're gonna pass it on and that cycle never gets broken the good thing i did

immediately come to the conclusion of conclusion of was they're not getting molested yeah you're already away you're already away but i'm like guys don't give me the fucking, oh, everyone tried to have sex with me. No, they didn't. Nobody did. You don't know how good I am. I promise you, fucking nobody did. Man. So what happened? I want to ask you. So this is a second marriage. When does drug addiction enter in?

And during this marriage? Oh, drug addiction's been around the whole time. The whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you said you'd smoke weed and do some rails every now and then. You did mention you shot up once. When did you start? Okay, so the shooting up was when I went back to Australia.

How old are you when you do this? Man, this is the later end of my skateboard career where I'm still pro. Sometimes I do waves of cocaine, and then I go, well, I've got to stop. But there was definitely a period there where it was just all the time. We never went out anymore. We just got big sacks and did blow around the table. And I remember thinking we're wasting our fucking life.

I always, when we got to rock, started to rock bottom loser room, I would always go, this is not from, I'm not going out like this. And I would make a big fucking change and get back on track and train and then do well in a contest and then do well in the contest and then fucking get a bunch of blow and then go back to some fucking house and dwell around it for and get fat eating burgers in the morning so it was always a cycle but it would always get a little bit better because i go man you really got to pull that in same with alcohol there was a time there where i would just black out and just do anything and and fuck everybody. I don't even remember what I did.

People would fight me and I didn't even know we had a fight. Someone's like, I beat you up last night. And I was like, well, congratulations. I hope it was good for you because I don't remember it. That happened to me a lot. And it wouldn't be aggressive. I'm just annoying. I'm so annoying that some tough guy would go,

I'm going to beat that dude up for being too happy. So then the heroin one was the worst one because the coke, I was like, yeah, whatever. I pulled the trigger. I'm getting sober with it. But were you doing pills and stuff first? No. I started with when I moved back to Australia. There's nobody to fucking skate with in Australia.

Nobody's a pro skateboarder in australia if you're a pro skateboarder in australia you wake up in the morning and you go nowhere nobody a man want to hang out and they're like what the fuck made him matt work who are you who is this asshole it's tuesday so it got lonely quick and then i would get drunk go to bars and then the drunk would would either agree i'd be like let's get some molly and then the molly would turn into go down to st kilda where there's all these hookers that are on heroin and they you know they get a blow job for 50 bucks never boned him maybe once or twice but it was more of a like a bj thing and then they're doing heroin and i've got no friends i'm trying to hang out with them and they're like man i don't really like you know i just want to suck your dick and get the money so i can get heroin i'm like what

about if we get heroin together so then they taught me how to chase the dragon one time i chased the dragon in vancouver but i didn't do it somebody else showed me so then i learned to do the foil thing they gave me powder so then i started asking explain that yeah so they give me the the white powder in the little baggie and then i get foil and i'd put some of the power on the foil and then you the lighter underneath with the pen little pen in your mouth glass pen and just suck it up plastic pen for the fuck oh really dude i'm in a car hiding heroin hiding from people doing this this isn people doing this. I didn't tell one person. You guys, heroin.

Anyone? It's pretty good. It's not like the gay shit you've done. I was in a parking lot the other day smoking some heroin, and I got to tell you, I felt pretty good. I just didn't tell anybody that story. It's the only time you did it? No, I started smoking it and getting hookers. It started to be a routine.

So then I started to, you know, get drunk, go out there at night and then find the, the hookers with the heroin. And then it escalated into, um, you know,

I'm still getting paid a lot of money to be a skateboarder and, and they don't know, you know, like there's no contest. I'm on some sort of weird vacation, I guess, being in Australia. Uh,

so I got a lot of money, man. So I was like, I'll get two hookers and get more heroin. And I'm trying to find like, hey, I'm like trying to round up. I'm like, whoa, this crazy big blonde chick with huge tits. I'm like, hey, come over here. And then I get another friend. I'll buy you heroin. They're like, what?

Everyone thinks I'm a cop because I don't know how to talk about drugs because I'm just this fucking idiot that is like, I know what heroin is. I'm not the HR. Fuck you, man. Just give me the bag and let's do it. And I was like, we only shoot it up. I was like, let's fucking shoot it up. And you had never done that before.

I'd never done that before, and I'd seen my mom's boyfriend do it. I'd seen my fucking friend do it to a girlfriend of mine when they started dating each other right in front of me and miss the fucking vein bleed everywhere and redo it i'm like never i'll never do this and then at that point i just remember thinking where'd you go we went to a house a room that was the blanket rooms like i went into a house that had rooms that were blanket. Yeah, walls for blankets. Blanket walls.

So now I'm in a blanket wall room pulling my pants down while they fucking shoot me up in the arm. Why are you pulling your – To fuck them. You're getting fucked too? There's two of them? Yeah. So now I'm fucking one of them while they're shooting me up and I'm like, all right. Good times are about to roll.

Everything's gone. Now I'm in, all right, good times are about to roll. Everything's gone. Now I'm in a park. I just wake up in a park up against the monkey cage. Yeah, I'm out. Did they rob you too? Yeah, yeah. I was about to say. I had 800 bucks.

They do heroin. They never fucked you. They fucked you. I got a couple pumps. And they did give me some heroin. And you got, what, 800 out of it? No, they got 800 out of it. And I woke up in this park in St. Kilda, which is fucking, this park is so sketchy.

And I'm unconscious, man. So I woke up and I'm freezing because I'd obviously been out there for a while. And, I mean, they left me there because I might have been dead or something. So when I woke up, I'm like, okay, you probably should have died. I feel cold, like bad cold. You know what I mean? Like in the core. I'm like, I feel like I almost died.

Something bad happened, you know, like a weird hangover. bad happen you know like a weird hangover and that just i i was like okay now you know now you know and you don't you're not him you're not going out like that like get the fuck up it was a it was a good thing because it was i felt so bad i thought you are on the streets riling up prostitutes that are not even into it, man. They're on drugs. Like, you don't see that because of your stupid mind and your upbringing of not understanding, like, the culture or people's fucking feelings or any of it. I'm just like, give me, give me, fuck, blah, blah, blah. Am I cool yet?

Like, that's just my whole fucking life. So I didn't realize I was doing any of this damage. That was such a bad one that even my stupid mentality then, it was like, you fucking idiot. You're wasting your life, dude. There's all these friends you have in California that you know that are living this life. And you're, me and my fucking wife's a bitch. And I'm not as good at skateboarding as I planned out, I'm banned. In the end, I just couldn't crack the,

I couldn't beat a certain couple of dudes. And it's like, not enough. I thought I was going to be the man. So I hid in drugs. So that one made me wake up. I was like, all right, that's it. No heroin again. And then you feel, every time i quit a certain drug then the other ones have to

come up so the alcohol comes up to support me not doing heroin anymore or any cocaine and then when i quit doing the drinking the marijuana comes up so there's like always been this little float where especially when i get older and i got kids i just don't drink enough to fuck my life but i'm fucking 49 apparently now if i drink my heart will fucking stop because i've got some fucking thing a heart problem that is that right yeah so i might i have a heart can go into afib so i had an ablation on it and the doctor was like uh you're fine man uh but drinking can trigger afib so you might want to just skip that from your life smoking weed still good smoking weed still good drug in the world that's what i was like i'll just stay there and

that one works for me for the pain arthritis all that shit yeah just to be more tolerable and to appreciate the day more so i'm saying i have a lot of friends that that her parents also that smoke they're like smoking weed makes me a better parent a better person a better partner everything's big on the peas yeah all right so what happens there you get divorced a second time yeah this one is uh there was a there was man okay i'll do it one time i swear the first time we broke up because we broke up once and then i got back together and we had our son but the first breakup so you have two kids yeah i have a son and a daughter so the first one god i'm so fucking bad so the radio show i'm not doing i know our sex life is never

good and i'm a fucking boner, man. I'm just like, ah, come on, everybody. Wait, you're 350 pounds? Never done that before. Come on over. So this girl comes in on the show, because we're desperate for guests, and then she's like 400-pound lady who has like, you know,

Shaq's eye goes up a little bit. It's way worse than that. And she's like 400, and she's's a plus size porn star or a model. I don't know what it is or whatever. So she's in there and we're talking and I've got to – I'm the kind of guy – I don't know if you've – I do this at airports when I'm waiting for shit. I think of who's the second person I'd want to fuck the most in the whole airport. Not the first. No, because it's basic.

First is easy. That's interesting. Who's the second? the whole airport. Not the first. No, because it's basic. First is easy. That's interesting. Who's the second? That's interesting. Because you start ranking people. You know what I mean? I'm like, fuck, that one's like fourth. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

We might have a third. You got a dark horse coming on. Yeah, like they come out of nowhere. And for me, I thought that she was really hot. Like I slept with Chyna. I thought this really big girl was super hot and I couldn't help it. Chyna the wrestler? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she was really hot. I slept with Chyna. I thought this really big girl was super hot, and I couldn't help it. Chyna the wrestler? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, she was a large lady, big size. Yeah. She was fun. She's taller than you, right? Yeah, she's not as strong as me. No. No, I was hoping.

You were hoping for it? Yeah, man, that was my. Throw me around. I don't want to be disrespectful to bigger women, but a part of it is like i would like big weightlifter women they don't usually into me because i don't have an they usually like weightlifter guys i think but that's my like my wife knows that if there's like a big jack chick that's into me i'm she's like okay go off you go dickhead because i would be so one of those yoke ladies with the little bikini that doesn't even cover the bigger the bigger i'm half a homo so i feel like

it's not that see now i'm being disrespectful dude i mean i feel like you're fucking a hot chick dude or you're the only guy i know that would get turned on by a chick i get turned on i'm like trans girls you know what i mean like i i want to fuck everybody okay i'm like wait you're a guy but you were born a girl i'm all about my wife my wife's like jason really i'm like well you want me to lie like yeah i'm into that too right big giant ones big jacked ones just sounds crazy weightlift but that's your shit right there the weightlifter chick is like ufc chicks and and weight but they're not they're different bodies but they're still my those are my i see okay any ufc girls that flirt with me, I get jittery because it's almost like, I don't know what else there is.

I can die with a smile on my face. I'm so close. So back to this lady with the lazy eye. So gross. Yeah. So she's a nice lady, man, but she was so gigantic. But you had a connection. Yeah. And when we did

things she consumed me like she was on top of me and it was just like and i'm like there was like a different thing happening it wasn't how did you get to that point though how do you go from she was like we should we should meet up and have a coffee and then i'm like yeah okay well there's no harm in that you know and then she was like we should go to my hotel room i'm like you have a hotel room she's like yeah and i'm like two of them i was like she might own the whole building had to knock this wall out of the way

so fucked up i don't know how to do it i'm fucking everyone's gonna hate me no matter what this i'm bad on both sides of this but yeah so then that i guess because my ex was real good at finding stuff so she just traced all my so wait you go back to the room is this a one and done was this a no you couldn't stop huh you couldn't stop how many times it was it always at the hotel room she had like a discount at the airport hilton or whatever man i'm gonna get fucked on whatever uh it's so it just it was just always there like come on down to the hotel room and have you know i mean and how did your ex find this out she traced my calls and and because i would erase them but then she like goes on where are you always leaving with food all the

time yeah so then so that got busted and then i and then her father called me and said how could you and shit so i yeah that was but also like really that's fucked up i felt like man you are a real piece of shit i mean i i understand feeling that way but like she deserves to be to be treated way better than that if my wife cheated on me with a guy that was 500 pounds part of it would sure it's my wife we have a kid together i'd be devastated but the other part would be like there's something wrong with you you know not there's something wrong with 500 pounds but if that's you're just going to do it to mark it on your list i'm not marketing on my list but you said i haven't done that before yeah there's that i do have that in my mind you like this girl but i yeah i'm like when i slept with china i wanted to i'm into it if there's nobody

around and nobody knows tomorrow i'm in that's what the difference is i don't fuck for what your opinion is. Like if you're going to frown upon me because of the people that I've had sex with, I'm going to keep fucking them and you can keep frowning. I'm not doing the other way around. I'm not going to be like, guys, guys, I now just have sex with my wife missionary with the lights off. Praise the Lord. Like fuck off, dude. Like this is my fucking life.

My dick and my were good. Like, fuck off, dude. Like, this is my fucking life. My dick and my were good. Everybody that we have sex with, everyone's like, hell yeah. I am into this also. So I don't see how anyone's getting hurt in my game. Except for you were married at that time.

Well, these are mistakes. We're doing the mistakes. Yeah, we are. We're highlighting the low rates. These are rectified. I no longer sleep with 400-pound women behind my wife's back. You can check my phone. Check my phone. I don't have any fucking secrets.

I will say, I told the story on my other show. People got mad at me, but somebody on Grindr hit me up and said that they wanted me to poo in their mouth. I wanted you to shit in their mouth? Yeah, and I'm like. Did you do it? No, but I asked my wife if I could, and't she was like how could you even think of it and i'm like i don't i've i don't think i'm into it but what the fuck human does that i just wanted to see if it's real all right i have one for you that person i dated a girl we've talked about this on the show and on on ymh and stuff but i dated a girl

for a few months who kept it together one time time we're having sex. She's riding me reverse cowgirl and long nails, doesn't say anything, and just dry, tries to shove a finger in my ass. Okay. And I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? I was like, spit on it. Anything. You know, I don't mind you not giving me a heads up, but do it right. Yeah. Do it right.

Yeah. That's the same as a vagina. Like, you don't just go fucking shoving things up there do you no you got to work with it on it and then get going so i it opens up a conversation that leads to her telling me that she wants to suck my dick while i take a shit oh the blumpkin yeah yeah and i was like that's when i wrapped i wrapped it up after that i was like we're we're good. Mom is more for the show. Would you do it, though? Would you let a girl suck your dick while you took a shit?

I don't even think I could get my dick hard for that. See, that's the difference. I'm not, I don't want my, when my wife farts around me, I'm like, oh my God, baby. Like, that's not fucking cool. You know what I mean? Like, I'm, and she gets off on hell fucking, because I don't. I'm like, if you're taking a shit, I don't know off on how fucking because i don't i'm like if you're taking a shit i don't know i'd just pretend you don't shit you don't so her shitting or me

shitting involved in our sex life is a fucking a no not even close what about back in your wild days single not a shit guy i pissed on some gay guys lately I'm glad somebody fucking finds it funny. Dude, those guys are into that shit. Dude, the first time it ever happened to me, I was at this fucking... This is when I was younger and still hiding it. Is that another t-shirt? I was just about to say.

I was just about to say, dude. I got two t-shirts in one shot say he took the words right out of my mouth i've pissed on a couple of gay guys before and i meant that in a nice way oh man okay go ahead the first time the first time i didn't do it because i was that was too scary he goes are you into water sports? And I said, yeah, of course. Because I thought he meant like water skiing and surfing and shit. Like, who isn't, man? And he's like, oh, cool.

You want me to piss on you or you piss on me? And I was like, get the fuck out of here. No. I'm going skiing, dude. What are you talking about? But then years later, from being in the community and getting different things out of different situations somebody's like hey man would you do that i'm like yeah i mean you ain't doing it to me but i'll do it to you i do the pissing yeah my wife and i piss on each other sometimes

dude you're so open. I love it. I had a girl that wanted me to pee on her. I would only do it in the shower, though. Yeah, no, it's a better place. I'm fine with you pissing on me in the shower. You can't do it in the living room. I rinse it right off. The fuck, man? Seriously.

Your house is just urinated. The kids play out here. Yeah, like the kids come over and they're like, what's going on in the living room, Dad? That cat pissed on us. The fucking dog again. That's Julie. I just fucking rain i was one time i did uh one time a girl peed into my i did a ball sack cup so i made my balls like a cup

and then another girl drank the get the fuck out of here dude I got video of that Listen I want to see it for a lot of reasons Mainly because I want to see you Take your ball bag and put it in I wouldn't be gay to watch that Ball bag in a fucking piss And then you brought it over and just tilted it I was in a jacuzzi and somebody peed Out of their vagina over me into my sack.

Get the fuck out. They aimed it over and down? We were pissing on each other for hours. It was like everyone just kept drinking so there was tons of pee to go around and every time someone had one, they'd get on the side of the pool and start rocketing at somebody in a different way. Jesus Christ. I think it's on an OnlyFans account.

Goddamn. Yeah, you're something else, dude. All right, so third marriage. Yeah. When did you get married? How long have you been married now? I don't know, like five years? No, only three?

Yeah, three years. We've been together 10 or maybe even longer now because Tiki was little. I think we've been together nine years, so we've been married three. Yeah, there you go. That sounds about right. And it sounds like you have a good lady,

and you've also done the work on yourself. That's the thing. She was going to leave me. She was? Why? Same fucking thing, same reason everyone else is going to leave me. That's why I went. Would you reason everyone else is gonna leave me that's why i went that's this is how i went down i'm friends with benji madden and katie is my wife

who's uh joel madden's assistant so we start meeting each other even before when i was married we knew each other but she was a tattooed chick so i knew to steer clear of her why because i want to fuck a tattoo she's fucking hot dude and she's covered in tattoos i don't want to know shit about her life because i know me like if she's like i think you're hot i'd be like i shouldn't i can't i couldn't stop it so i just always talk to her in a respectful manner to my wife because my wife knew that tattoo chicks and it was tattoo chicks big chicks and black chicks any of those walk in the room i'm potentially already in trouble that's how it went all right so i immediately had to go wife tattooed no cup this this one yeah that's what i'm saying the new

my new wife the last one the third one yeah when she was in the room i had to not pay attention to her because my wife at the time got it she knew the new wife i can't talk to tattoo people because i'm probably gonna cheat on them or at least flirt yeah and be be something she was very jealous too she couldn't let me like have somebody like me so that made it probably more appetizing to get into that shit. So anyway, I meet her and everyone, my tattoos, we got the same tattoos. He's like, you guys fucking totally fuck you guys. And I'm like, whoa, easy, man.

He's like, trust this chick's fucking crazy. I'm like, this is, you know, this is what you get, Jason. Like everybody's like, she's a fucking madman. You guys can fucking like cut each other and shit. And I'm like, oh, that does sound pretty kinky. I never fucking played with blood before, which starts to come into play. So we meet. We're fucking out of control straight away.

We're fucking each other. She fucking teaches me that she slashes my arms with razor blades and starts sucking blood out of it and spitting it. What? Yeah, and cutting my chest and sucking my dick and spitting blood all over me. Like, you know, she's fucking covered in tattoos. I'm like, fucking, you know, this is fucking devil sex, man.

It's fucking wild. She's like, restraining me, you know what I mean? Like, dang hair, ran me here. Like, it was just this person where I'm like, this is all the fucking I want. Like, this is like, we should fuck. And she's like, no, we should fuck. And she's like, no, we should fuck. Like it's her telling me we should fuck.

I'm like that's what I need in my life, not someone that it's like, yeah, all right, I'll hook you up again. Like I don't need a fucking hookup. You need to be in it as much as I am. And she was. And then the next thing was the gay thing came out straight away. And I hid it from the other people. And whenever I did confess something to it, both other wives used it against me, both of them. One didn't say it as much because there was kids involved, but she was not – that was not a good piece of me to bring out.

I should have just not said that. bring out i should have just not said that but this one with my wife she's in my apartment and there was a uh a cat what's the calendar that a trans girl had given to me by being on the jason ellis show and she's like you're into this and i was like yeah because i remember thinking i'm a piece of shit to go out with like don't even make her think that you're worth you i mean just tell her the truth because i figured at that point, if you're into trans girls or you're OK with a dude blowing you every now and then, how are you supposed to be a husband or a good boyfriend with that in your life? Like that's – and I knew it like a guy knows he's gay. That's what I am. That's what I – if I'm going to have sex, those things are in my life. That's who I am. It's what i am that's what i if i'm gonna have sex those things are in my life

that's who i am it's what feels right to me so are you bisexual or are you i'm pansexual i think there's the what is it pan yeah that's everything yeah okay because i think and do you have an open relationship with your wife you're allowed to have sex with men or whatever you want if you want whoa all right is she yeah okay so i just get permission first you have to get permission yeah i don't bone and go hey just fuck somebody that doesn't work that's not the way you have to go hey here's the person if it's a girl they have to get a lot more info like if it's a guy it's like this guy wants to blow me not now because fucking pandemic but it used to be it used to be yeah because guys love straight guys

you know so it's just like hey man i'm like yeah man like why not so now that's kind of out of the out of the game so it's just a few regulars so i kind of have like boyfriends kind of okay not boyfriends because i don't like go to the park with them and shit but they're my friends the park is a big hangout the park and the hikes i don't like them i don't like hikes there was one night this is a few years ago i'm with this girl we're on a date we just want to old school make out so we pull into this park well this particular night we're in the valley it's crazy fucking foggy like the kind where you can't see five feet from you right yeah and we're in this parking lot at the park and all of a sudden here comes this car park pulls in single guy gets out

and just walks into the abyss another one same another one i go oh my god yeah i bet you they're all meeting here i've been to one of those too you've been to a fog party i had to someone tells me about it i'm like what are you talking about i was right i was like there's a lot of that you couldn't see anything you go deep in there and all of a sudden there's like fucking 50 dudes all waiting around and all it takes all it takes is just you i i and then unzip your pants and it's on holy everybody everybody wants it in there monsters dude it's like fucking monsters i swear sometimes once there's this place studs this is the scariest place in the world right where is this it's on

santa monica boulevard in hollywood west hollywood yeah there's a movie theater so my wife and i are fucking kinky as you can tell and we're like what is this fucking theater and she's gay too so we're like let's go watch gay movie things or whatever so we go in there it's fucking pitch black there's movie theaters in the front and then there's a big theater in the back and when you get in there like you know fucking gay porn on a giant fucking screen but it's dark it's fucking there so i'm holding my wife's hand walking in i'm like my eyes still haven't adjusted. I can barely see. We sit down. And as soon as we sit down, a guy comes over to try and suck me off. And I'm like, babe, what do I do? She's like, go on, let him.

So I'm like, okay. And right there they do it? Yeah, she's sitting next to me. So some guy is sucking me off. Two other guys come from behind in the next row of seats. And a guy just flops it out and puts it right next to my wife's head nah yeah so like i'm right here and hers here and this dick goes and what is it for her or you for her because she got she got a hat on she's trying to like

trying to blend in with the gays the hat, we came back because we thought it was so fucking funny. Because I remember looking at it going, oh, my God. This dude doesn't know that. You know what I mean? He's like a. Because sometimes gay guys, girls. And barking up the wrong pussy. It's like vampire and garlic.

Like they get. They're like, ah, it's bad. The next. We went to the sex store across the street and bought those fake flaccid dicks and she put it in her pants and put like a baseball cap on and a dude came over to suck it and since he grabbed it, he knew it was rubber. Oh, really? But it's a fun place because people come out of nowhere. They'll grab onto you and shit. I've had to like push people off in there.

I've never had that experience but I've gone to – when I first got here, I dated this girl from Argentina, and she was into some shit. And one night she's like, I want to take ecstasy and rent a limo. We're going to go to this club in West Hollywood on Santa Monica down a little bit by the car wash, like the little end of Boys Town. And it was one of those clubs where every night of the week it was something different. And it was one of those clubs where every night of the week it was something different. It was a building, but Monday night it was maybe a club night or whatever. And then it would be burlesque and whatever. On Saturday nights it was a club called Cinematic, S-I-N-A-M-A-T-I-C. And it was a club in the front.

But in the back was full-on live S&M shows. Somewhere your dad probably would have hung out back in the day. He probably would have been in it. I'd do that. That shit is fun. You should do it. There's these S&M shows. I'm into some of it. But this one dude was hanging like fucking, picking up

cinder blocks from his ball bag. I was like, I'm not on. That's way too far. I gotta say because when you're me you gotta say whatever you're into you gotta be like oh yeah you can't judge i can't say shit i gotta i gotta be like oh interesting i can't say anything so yeah whatever we took but i was so fucking into everything else that i ended up walking up and getting a seat and she came up behind me she's like do you like what you see and i was like we're gonna have a really good fucking time yeah yeah it was hot yeah i think it's a and it's the kind of club you can go out

and fuck your girlfriend right over in the corner in the club you know what i mean like anymore yeah not anymore remember those days yeah barely it's a good thing about brain damage. I don't even know what happened last year anyway. Well, listen, we're at that time, and this has been goddamn fucking fantastically fun and enlightening. Before we wrap up, I'm going to ask you the question I told you. Going back now, after all the shit we have talked about, what advice would you give to your 16-year-old self? Man, keep your dick in your pants probably, right? But like I said, I know 16-year-old me had to learn the hard way. So I think I would just say, hey, man, like don't worry about it so much.

It will work out. I feel like that's really the – because all the times that i worried about what was going to happen sometimes they did happen but it didn't make any difference sometimes it didn't and i just did all that worry for no reason and even if it does happen all the worrying before it didn't help anything so to me that's my biggest lesson is these days i'm like if it's going to happen it's going to happen you know if the, everyone doesn't think that it's hot shit, I'm not worrying about that. I'm worrying about doing a good show every day.

That's all you should be doing. That's it. Whatever happens, happens. I'm ready for it. Again, promote everything you want, please. Yeah, the Jason Ellis Show, the podcast, downloads, tell your friends, all that stuff, like and subscribe, the YouTube

Jason Ellis show I do a awesome world of solo show and then the ultimate friends conversation should come out on Tuesday with Alan Joban

alright so I'm very excited about that because our first episode will be about Conor McGregor smashing Dustin Poirier I was going to ask you

who you thought would win this week I think it's ridiculous yeah I think he sees it I think when they're nice to each other i think dustin's like you know thank you for what do you give him hot sauce what the fuck was it dustin's got his own hot sauce and they're talking about connor's gonna you're donating money i've never seen conor mcgregor hot sauce oh like they're fucking synergizing he's doing that de la jolla shit i don't look i'd rather that than hear him talk about somebody's wife and shit.

Yeah, yeah. I like that they're friends with each other because that's what people need to understand. MMA is a passion. It's an art form. When all those dudes get all angry and say that, I feel like the average person thinks that we're a bunch of violent assholes, which I don't think is the case. A lot of the time it's i mean to me i don't fight angry look how compassionate you are yeah did you sense that from this show yeah really i sense that if you're not fighting them you're fucking them

i really look you kind of you we had to do molestation i told you i didn't really want to it's gonna just turn into a fuck off i don don't fuck off. I don't fuck off. I do other stuff. I do yoga. And my pants are on the whole time. Every time I go to the gym and do boxing, I fucking never show my coach my dick. You never do that? He's never seen my dick.

That's good. That's good. No one's ever drank out of your ball bag at a yoga class? No. There's a time and a place, man. That was fantastic. If your sack was out and they were going to piss in it, don't tell me you wouldn't cup it.

I would have to cup it. You're going to roll with the piss. Oh, man. Jason, thank you very much for coming on. I'm RyanSickler.com. RyanSickler on all social media. We'll talk to you all next week.