The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - JimNorton - NortonDew

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

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been waiting for when i'm a big fan thank you i love all you new york guys from back in the day especially yeah i'm surprised i asked you before we love all you new york guys from back in the day especially yeah i'm surprised i asked you before we started talking you said you're 55 you look fucking great thank you yeah i um years ago i started putting lotion on and i quit smoking like those are probably the things that helped me i quit smoking in uh 2001 the lotion was before the smoke yeah put lotion on skinceuticals every night um i'm like an old lady you have a skin routine yeah do you really yeah jim norton has a bedtime facial routine i do because good like i've always been kind of smooth it's like the only thing physically i have going for me is is the fact

that my skin is smooth anything else is a disaster it's interesting anytime i've had a lady touch my arm or something so your skin's smooth I always think, what are you touching? What are other dudes doing out there? I know. Right? Yeah. For me, it's more like smooth skin. No hair, just little baby tits.

I think they like that feeling, that smooth, soft feeling of a boy. Before we get into everything, please plug and promote all of it. Just the only thing I'll promote is I'm on tour now i have a bunch of dates jimnorton.com if you want to uh i mean i'm on the west coast i'm on the east coast and also um my wife and i do a youtube channel it's uh at nicki and jim nyc and i kki and jim nyc and that's what I'm doing with my wife so if you want to see it it's just a little slice of life shit but it's fun to do and something I've wanted to do for a long time well you really resonate with me because again before we started recording we were talking about you just got married yeah you're 55 I'm 51 well I'm 51 in March but I've never been married

uh been engaged but never been married and you said man i never even thought i would do it never lived no kids no nothing and then all of a sudden you find someone that shifts everything right yeah so ages did you ever did you ever age or do you ever put a number on yourself a cap like if it ain't happening by 55 i'm i'm not even gonna try yeah i'm shutting off 19 i said it doesn't happen by 19. I'm fucking finished. Never. I didn't want it. I didn't want it. I had no desire.

Every married guy I talked to is miserable. It's always the lack of sex and the, and just the fact that everything dies. I just didn't want to do it. But my fiance at the time was from Norway. So she couldn't get in the country. We were having a whole thing over a minor marijuana issue. So then someone said, we'll do a fiance visa. And I'm like, that means I really have to

get married. So in 2019, we got engaged and we got married two years ago here in the States once she got in. But I'm glad I did it because I actually really like it. I like being married. You do. I never thought I would. Yeah. Like when I want to go off and do stuff, like if I want to just like jerk off or look at escort ads or do any of that stuff, I'm like, okay, I can't do that stuff because there was some fun to that. But what I get from being married is worth it.

Yeah, the trade-off is worth it. A little. It's not by a long shot, but by a little bit, being married beats my old life. My old life was very lonely at times. Yeah, but there's also something to be said about, and I get this too, even with comedy, it's a solo sport. Everything's independent. You grow into these things that you like in your ways of doing things and you don't want to change necessarily. You don't want to buck what you got going. It's not

the worst. It might not be the best, but God forbid something could come in here and ruin all this I got going on. but you left yourself open. I did. Yeah. And, and I really had to make a decision. How much do I like this, this woman I'm with?

Like, um, we knew that a fiance visa is the only way she'd be able to come in and visit in the States. And then in the past, she was staying in Canada and I was going up and visiting her every weekend. I would drive up to Montreal.

I'd do radio Monday through Thursday. As soon as the radio show was over, I hop in the car drive up to Montreal. I'd do radio Monday through Thursday. As soon as the radio show was over, I hop in the car, drive to Montreal, spend Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and drive home Sunday morning and repeat. And I went up there, March of 2020, my producer said they're going to close the border so that I wouldn't have been able to go see her.

So I just drove up with a suitcase and I stayed for 15 months. I stayed in Canada the whole pandemic. I was broadcasting. I was on an ISDN line broadcasting because we weren't allowed at Sirius. Sirius XM had said no more. So for like a week, we were home. So the fact that I was already not allowed in the studio anyway because of COVID, it just worked out. So I was forced to live with someone for 15 months and I'd never lived with a person before. It really was crazy. It was like one day I was living by myself and then the next day I'm just living with someone for 15 months and I'd never lived with a person before. It really was crazy. It was like one day I was living by myself.

And then the next day I'm just living with someone in Montreal for, it was that quick. And it didn't, I didn't have time to panic and fuck it up. I was just there and living it. So the pandemic was great for me. Like it. And so we allowed to go up there and stay that long.

Americans can go for six months and then we just have to get it renewed or something renewed yeah and the canadians are great like they're really they're panicky about covid but they allowed her to come in even though she had that little marijuana thing they allowed her to have a student visa so she went to school um and i wound up just renewing every time but what happens they're strict because i know buddies that have had duis that couldn't go do jfl because they can't drive across the board. You can't get up there with a DUI. That's right. Very strict about that.

But a little marijuana. Her charge was so small. They said they just wanted to make sure she had paid the fine. It was like a $100 fine. And they let her in. It was not a problem. But the way it works is if you apply to renew your visa, you can stay while they adjudicate that. So if it takes three extra months, which it did because these embassies were closed,

I was totally legal to be there. So then by the time they said yes, I would have to reapply because it was almost six months, but they were great. So I love the Canadians. I love Montreal. Yeah, Montreal's great.

It is, but they were worse than the US with COVID. They were panicking and we were in the house by eight o'clock. It was really claustrophobic. I didn't jack off once in 15 months. It's crazy. But it forced you into marriage and love. Yeah, but it also forced me to not jerk off, which was very bizarre.

I really wanted to. Okay. 15 months is insane. Yeah. Okay. Because I imagine, how old are you when you start? Jerking off? Yeah. You know, i was probably 12 i think 12 was the first time i actually ever got got it all the way and i was

like oh yeah i get it and up until a couple years ago had you ever had a layoff like that never more than 30 days or 40 days i tried now i'm back to it by the way um this is the minute i got back to the u.s i think as soon as I waved goodbye to the border guard in fucking upstate New York, I just jerked off on Route 80. I was fucking... It was really bad. I didn't waste any time when I got back. But I was happy that I could do it.

I was happy I went at that time. But it was very difficult. It was a weird time for everybody. All right. So let's jump back to the beginning. Let's go back to the beginning because there's a reason you don't want to be in a relationship and everything. Tell me about where you're from originally, your parents, family, that kind of thing. Family.

I mean, I don't know what's normal and what's not normal. I think they're normal. You know? Amen. I think my parents are normal. I mean. The thing I've always loved about you, I know people are going to be like, shut up, let them talk. But I just want to say this is you've just,'ve never been you've always been out yeah you've always been out there with your wild

side your freak side your comedy person whatever you've always been unashamed and you've just been you and i've loved that about you because you know there's a lot of guys that that are find it hard to be themselves yeah and especially in comedy you know you don't even know who the fuck you are till you're in this thing for a long time you're fine but you've always been true to you i feel like and you've you've never wavered on any of it i've i always dug that about you thank you i but you're saying that there was no shame that's incorrect i'm actually shame personified i am i am a walking pile of fat-titted shame, but I've learned to make it funny.

Oh, there's a lot of shame. Let's talk about it. Yeah, I don't know where it's from. It's always that whole not deserving or not feeling. Not the, there's a different, the shame is always legitimate, and I don't enjoy it. It's just there

um and then you see like i love when you see really good looking comics and that doesn't mean that they don't have problems but when you see good looking people playing the aw shucks girls don't like me and then they purposefully comb their hair a little awkward and it's like no that's not really who you are you're very confident and it reads nothing wrong with being confident but just be confident like don't pretend you're shy. And you know, I don't know if the girls will like me. Yeah,

you do. Yes, you do. So it always, that, that kind of reads, I prefer a guy like Jezelnik, who's a good looking guy,

but is, is so himself on stage. And so, you know, the joke is going to be barbaric. He's not, there's no, oh, shucks. It's just, this is what he does. Like, if you're going to be barbaric um he's not there's no aw shucks it's just this is what he did like yeah if you're gonna be a good looking guy and a confident guy be like anthony jeslick where you're just being true to that you know what i mean i love jess

yeah yeah i do too and he performs like a guy who is a good looking confident guy so i respect that a lot more than people who are pretending to be something they're not it'd be like if i tried to be confident and good looking, it wouldn't work. Nobody would believe it. Did you grow up in like a strict household, religious household? What are your parents like? Were they married, divorced? Married, still married.

Still married. Still living, still married. Strict with me. My sister's seven years younger. She got away with a lot more. I couldn't watch rated R movies until I was 18. Oh, they really went for it. I feel like it was 17. I feel like it was 17. lot more like i couldn't watch rated r movies until i was 18 oh they really went for it i feel

like it was 17 was i feel like yeah yeah but for me there was an extra year in the norton household for maturity uh i think they finally gave in because i remember i was obsessed with clockwork orange growing up and uh they over disciplined me a little bit like with with with uh you had to be in by 9 30 and you know just panicked that something bad was going to happen to me or whatever but when you discipline someone like that you know when when they are able to do what they want you know they wind up driving through new brunswick getting prostitutes every night of the week it's your fault mom and dad so wait were you on did you follow the rules up until then and then it was all hell breaks loose or

were you still you know being a bit of a hellion then too i was doing what i wanted to do yeah sure even within their rules though you were you were were you pushing the limits on your curfew yeah or getting locked out of the house when i wouldn't come home until if you're drunk and you don't come home they just lock me out at what age is that 15 16 you come home drunk like that yeah they lock you out lock you out? Lock you out. It's typical suburban stuff. You know what I mean? Where did you grow up?

North Brunswick, New Jersey. All right. Oh, so you stayed local for the prostitutes then? I did. I would go down to New Brunswick. When I finally discovered that, I was like 18 or 19. Because I was too pathetic to meet girls. And I found these areas.

And I would just see the same girls over and over. I got to know all of them. And I would drive them back up from new brunswick to north brunswick and park in my parents driveway and we had the uh like you know i had that thing in my windshield that keeps the heat and i would just put that up and i'll put the sunshade up and just get blown in my driveway it was great yeah you got your dick sucked in your parents drive many times lock me out now dad many times yeah and then drive because you knew that no cops were going to come hassle you in your own driveway yeah that's a great idea it was very free doing that i was what's that how old are you doing 18 19 20 21 like and you would just go down and all right can we please talk about this

sure because i've this has always terrified me. It's terrified me. So we've got a spot in Baltimore I used to go to. It's called Chaps Pit Beefs. It's a pit beef. It's a great pit beef spot in the parking lot of a strip club. Okay. That also happens to be a section where the ladies walk. Truck drivers come through.

They do their thing. And I would see them all the time. Never talk to them. Never anything. I'd always like, man, to me, it was always like, always like wow this is a lady's gonna get in this dude's truck she can get chopped into pieces the whole thing but also i've always been paranoid of so many things stds but the biggest one was getting arrested you said that the cops getting caught and getting your name out there like that or even approaching them or how to talk to them. What your first time ever?

How do you, were you terrified? I don't remember my first time. No, I don't remember the first time. But I would have a friend convince you to do it. Like what, who? Yes. The little friend in my lap. I convinced me to do it.

You went solo. There was no buddy. You're like, you want to go do this together? No, no, but I would drive around for me. The whole ritual was just kind of looking and i would talk to them and they would have to talk to me through the window first and i would have to know uh i wouldn't say anything that could get you arrested until they got in the car and then we would talk for a minute and then you know once they grab your dick

you know okay and once once they get in the car you know that they're probably working because cops don't get in the car usually they have you meet them around the corner. Is that right? For their own safety. Has that happened to you before? Never. Where you knew? No.

There's a couple of times I didn't see the person because I was a little suspicious. I was like, have a good night. Hey, what do you want to do? They're leaning. What do you want to do? I'm like, just go for a ride, hang out, talk. I would always work into it like that. But I really, I get attached very easily.

So I met these girls and I would see the same girls all the time. And my favorite part was after the sex, I would always enjoy talking to them as I drove them back. Like that would be my favorite part of it. It was, sometimes I wasn't even horny. I was just lonely. And I didn't know that I was lonely because a guy you're like, I want to come, but I really didn't want to come. I wanted to just be with a girl. So I would go down and hook up or even if I just jerked off. And I would just love talking to them as I drove them back. That was my favorite part of it.

Most times. Sometimes I just needed them. They probably liked it too, to be honest with you. Yeah, it was easy. I mean, it was easy. I was clean cut. I wasn't fucking dirty. I mean, I wasn't into anything crazy.

I wasn't into being shitty to them. Yeah, eat it, bitch. It's just like, just blow my little suburban dick, and I'll drive you back, and we'll chit-chat, and I'll try to pretend you're my girlfriend. That's all. Did you lose your virginity to a prostitute? No, I lost my virginity to a girl I was dating in high school. I don't remember the first sex.

I was probably drunk, but I remember I was wearing a hat because I had cowlicks. I hated my hair so much. So I had this hat on and she was like, can you take your hat off? I was like, oh yeah, I did. And we maybe had sex. It was probably not good

for either one of us. Then she started banging my Jamaican friend not long after. It was very hard to deal with his big long dick. I was very, very upset. So what were you like in high school?

Class clown. You were? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we do, right? It's like I'm not going to do well. I didn't graduate. I dropped out senior year. You did?

Why? Rehab. I went to rehab, and I was just a problem. And I just was so disconnected from all of it. And so I'm happy. So let's rewind a little bit more then. When do you start? What were you doing?

Drinking, drugs, all of it? Drinking, drugs. What age did you start in that? 13. Oh, wow. But I was one of those little after school specials. It just got very bad, very fast. How'd you get into it?

I'm just friends. You know, and my dad is sober. So he always knew. And I always knew there was a problem. Just, you know, pulling razors on people and just doing things that you don't normally do. Wait, your dad would do that? No, I would. You would pull, what do you mean?

Just box cutters. It was just, again, I was just a crazy little person. But why are you doing, just out of anger? Yeah, no, misguided. In the house or the neighbors? No, no, just people outside pulling knives on people. I'm so glad I didn't get my ass kicked. I'm really lucky.

You're lucky you're not dead. I know. Yeah. I know. That sounds like shit somebody would shoot you for, especially in Jersey. Not where I live, though. They were the same as I was, again, just little suburban idiots. But yeah, I got very fortunate. i got sober when i was 18 um yeah but it cost me high school i i didn't graduate so have you ever gone back to get your ged i did three years into being sober

but i wound up not needing it i mean so i that's as far as i ever went i've never wasted time and not the college wasted time but for me it would have been i didn't want i wanted to do this at what point are you putting a rehab and everything i'm 17 i mean was it a intervention or yeah it was a suicide attempt that was quote unquote it was more of a notice me again but what'd you do cut my wrists you did yeah yeah yeah bad i mean bad is when you actually let yourself bleed out. Blubbering idiot who wants to be noticed is what I really was. So yeah, it was embarrassing after a while. I was embarrassed.

But yeah, I went to rehab for a month. But it stuck. What they said really bothered me. I knew that there was something there. You know what I mean? What did they say just about about the personality stuff and about being an alcoholic and i knew that it wasn't normal what i was doing and i knew all this uh you know getting drunk and calling the fbi like just

stuff that people i would just call the fbi i would call the fbi like i read this who the hell how do you even find a number for the fbi back then which is again the 80s i would uh you'd call information i remember i read this book on the clan and there was this clan ku klux klan preacher so i was like that's racist and i called up this i found this guy's number on information and i fucking called this guy and told him how wrong it was to be in the clan and he actually told you actually called the clan The guy, I don't know. The FBI was different. I wanted to stop them from marching. You found the Klan guy and he talked to you?

He actually talked to me for a while. And he's like, I'm out of that life now. And he stopped doing it. He had been a preacher in the Klan. And he was out of that life and had moved on. But this is where you'd call 411 and get the number and make the phone call. So yeah, it was a lot of that phone stuff. And thank God Twitter didn't exist.

Thank God there was no social media when I was a drunken. That's why I hate all these people going after people for shit. They said as a teenager, like, all right, if you're 61 and you tweet something, all right, but if you had 17 and 18, fuck you guys going after teenagers for that dumb shit.

You're talking to people who've been born into a world where internet has always existed for them. Always, yeah. That's like the highways to us. You know, like, wait, we can get on a freeway and go somewhere now? Yeah. Yeah, before you couldn't do that shit.

People don't get it. I still remember the first time I downloaded a golden shower video. It was my parents' gateway computer and I didn't know anything about like the pads where these things go so i just downloaded this fucking golden shower piss video and i had no idea where it was on the computer i'm like i didn't know where the downloads went i just thought it would be on the desktop so uh yeah i mean that's how i remember computers coming into it and in high school uh they were teaching ms dos prompt and

i wish i did this and all of it what was it was low was it lotus don't remember was there one called lotus i feel like we learned a lotus but ms dos yeah i remember the first apple computers they would bring in and this guy would teach us in seventh grade he was on it like his name was i probably shouldn't say his mr spike was his name but this dude brought in little they were little tiny apples they were like that that uh like beige color yeah yeah you know with the bubble screen it was just little shit and this dude was like this is gonna be the future and we're like whatever bro yeah dude was on it he was right and i wish i had learned it even though the stuff you learned back then you would have had to continue learning because nobody wants you know to to prompt

in or you know when you would get the uh that awful sound of the fucking modem oh yeah starting up which was actually a great sound because i knew like as soon as i signed in and i was on aol i was like now i can get to porn i can get to porn and chat rooms and just I was just jerk off reading what everybody said it was great what um do you so do you lean into that once you become clean and sober then is yep is porn and sex your new thing it was always the first thing it was that was the first thing from childhood so you you went clean and sober and everything else but you're like this one's the one we're gonna keep it really took off like yeah I mean but the whole my whole young life it was there i mean

from childhood on was the like the first addiction it was the first secret the first thing that felt good and first thing i was ashamed of you know all of it but uh yeah when i got sober i mean that just and i can i had mobility i could drive and i had a you know a phone i could talk to other adults you know then it really went i remember talk to other adults, you know, then it really went, I remember ordering phone sex. I forget, I had to go take a money order out and I had to send in a money order and they sent me certified mail with these phone numbers to call that were good for 30 days. And so I was doing phone sex for, for like, I literally was calling women in California on a pay phone

to try to jerk off on my way to work and i didn't realize that it was like two in the morning there uh here uh so yeah it was i i really wish i had the conveniences forgot about those those 976 or 900 numbers or whatever this was 30 days of phone sex for one price it was like 100 tell me what do you mean you've and you never got ripped off from that? You'd spend $100 and then you'd date. How long would it take you to get jerk off? You got to get the males involved and shit? The US male, a certified male.

Certified. And you would call a bunch of different numbers. You had to sign for it. You had to sign for it. Yeah, you had to be there for it. Yeah, I had to be there when the postman came. But it came and I will still never forget getting that and being so psyched that it finally came and all these numbers, a bunch of different phone numbers because they probably

had a bunch of different women. I've never heard of this one. Okay. So then you got 30 days with this set of numbers and then that's it. That's it. They would expire. Call to your dick's content. Yeah, that's right.

Wow. But they would be cranky a lot of times when I would call. Yeah, I bet. You want to talk dirty now? I remember one where girl she was so late it was seven in the morning in new york i didn't realize it was four a.m but uh yeah that's that's how you had to do it back then that's how you had to do it it was very very tactile it was very tactile experience so you've been clean and sober since 18 87 yeah 1987 1987 yeah and there's been no relapse you don't look forward no care no i mean but this is a tough world i i always admire comedians especially that can be

clean and sober in this world because it's just everywhere you go it's there every it's our job is making sure these people are doing the thing you don't do it's readily available yeah but i also learn from watching other guys who have fucked up things or ruined opportunities or been really drunk and when you see people handling things poorly because they're fucked up i'm like yeah that's that's the uh the upside of not doing it is i'm not doing that for all the mistakes i've made in the business i'm not doing that you know so yeah i mean it's hard but it's also easy when there's so many teachers around doing things wrong.

Then again, you see Chappelle smokes a lot of pot, and it certainly hasn't hurt him. So there's always the people who it doesn't affect at all. So tell me about relationships for you then, when you're just chasing that dragon, so to speak, of the sex. Are you dating at all in your 20s? Or are you just yeah always staying single did you ever fall in love oh sure yeah the first girl you said you fall easy for sex workers i did yeah oh for sex a lot of times yeah and other girls i would get attached to easily but sex

workers you had an immediate access to so you could connect and then like oh my god maybe she likes me you know uh but yeah i had a girlfriend uh girlfriend from I guess 18 to 19 or first girl was six months. And I fell in love with every girl I dated. Like I really did. I mean, any girl I was in a relationship with, I fell in love with. But when you use people like a drug, like when you use people to like validate you and when the high is in the chase, once once you have them you enjoy it for a little while but then you start looking around because you want the next thing it's like compulsive eating or anything you know i never want one cookie when i get it i want the next thing the next thing the next thing it's like now i'm 55 i'm collecting kiss posters again like my midlife crisis uh

it's fucking old kiss posters you got the one where they're the uh military one where they're all wrapped up. That's the 76 tour poster. Not only do I have that, I have that factory sealed. Yeah, there's two of them. One says US tour and one says US tour 76. I just remember Peter Criss with the snare drum. Yeah, a little drum.

Yeah, it's a great poster. I have that. I didn't hang that one up. Suits is great too. Dressed to Kill is a great one. That's a great album. It's a good album and a great poster. The poster's better.

Yeah, one of the posters from the Dressed to Kill era is one of the most valuable Kiss posters. But anyway, yeah, I became re-obsessed recently. My wife fucking hates my poster. She hates it. I mean, you know, it's just framed in museum glass. Then frames are worth more than the posters. I'm an ass. Like, I'm an absolute absolute ass and I know it. Goddamn idiot. But it makes me happy. It beats

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Zero interest. Yeah, I mean. You ever talk to your parents about that? Like, how the hell do you two still, do you ever talk about that? No, I never thought to. I mean, I assume it's because they're from a different era and you know it was a little people who got married in the 60s and the 50s for them it was like well it's a lifelong commitment and that's it um and then they you

know they had me and they had my sisters so where were they going i mean i guess they could have got divorced but i mean where were they going really yeah um i feel like you're such an outlier do you is your dad ever talked to you about that shit no i mean uh i'm not good on the one-on-ones with family but he's open as you are on these microphones and everything they could hear you say they don't ever come up to you and be like your dad's never like what's it like to have a sex worker no no no the only thing they've ever asked me was uh when i started going on opiate anthony uh the first time i was on i was dice brought me on and it was a phone call um he had me call into ona while he was in studio and they were very nice to me they loved dice and they were only on in new york at

this time in the afternoon this is 2000 and uh i was telling them a story about this ex-girlfriend who used to piss on me and she used to piss in a cup and um i would i would i would i would take her hands and have her make me drink it it was really i i probably scarred her yeah her piss oh yeah yeah i was having to have a piss in a cup and i would drink it you scored her yeah yeah yeah i apologize if she's ever seeing that i apologize i really loved you but i was thirsty. So I was telling this story on the radio and my dad called me. He goes, so your mother and I heard you on the radio.

And I was like, oh yeah. Did they meet that girl? Now they have a visual. Oh, they knew who she was. We were broken up by then and she has not spoken to me since. She hates me.

But I wish she didn't, but I was wrong. And he goes, yeah, that's not the the p i told your mother you were only kidding and i remember in that conversation my dad in his in his words without saying it was saying please be kidding and i was like oh yeah i'm just joking and we both knew i wasn't my dad knew i wasn't joking and i knew i wasn't joking but i knew what he needed to hear was i was just joking dad i don't drink piss out of a Dixie cup. And that's the only time they've ever come to me. And they've seen the act, and they like the act,

but they know, like, you don't want to ask questions. So they do support, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, they're great. My parents are great. Great senses of humor. And again, all these years later, they're used to it. You know what I mean? They're used to me just talking about everything.

Tell me when you realize or that you or tap really into your your sexual side that freak side like that you don't mind drinking piss you don't did someone introduce you to it first you were like i want to try that as a kid it's all childhood stuff like i remember when i lived in edison so this is the only time frame is this jersey also yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. And I moved, I left Edison in Halloween of fourth grade, was my first day in North Brunswick. So anything that happened in Edison happened before Halloween of fourth grade. So that's kind of my time frame in the seventies. And I wound up, I remember that there were these twins, brother and sister, and I used to get them.

I think they were my age. I think the brother, I think they were both my age. Oh, they were twins. So they were both. Or maybe just brother and sister. They weren't twins. Because I think he and I were in second grade and she was in third grade. I don't remember.

But I used to get them to sit on my face separately because they both pissed their pants, which means their childhood must have been terrible, filled with terror. So I would go behind the bushes. And whichever one of them was around, I would just have them sit on my face and i would breathe in their piss through their pants so they've already pissed themselves you're like get over here and put that on my face waste it i mean what are you doing well where does that come don't know don't know i'm very scent oriented okay so this was your request this was not them saying hey let me sit on your face and then then you were into it. And like, there's the origin story. This is you saying, hey.

Yeah. And they were down for it. Sometimes, yeah. But I don't remember how. That was your first sort of sexual thing you can remember was having a kid with pissed, filled pants sit on your face. I mean, I wouldn't say it was the first, but it was in that time period. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There was a bunch of very little naughty Jimmy Norton. Like what? Give me some more. Oh, blowing my friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a bunch of very little naughty Jimmy Norton. Like what? Give me some more. Oh, blowing my friends. Fucking, oh, I was a fucking. Oh, he said friends with an S. Oh, friends with an S. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Multiple friends. Yeah. How old are you doing that? First, second, third grade. Wow. Yeah. You're terrified. My daughter's in third grade.

I'm terrified. terrified want to wrap this up right now go get her out little girls are probably better they're probably healthier than i was i believe that but also those boys like you are in those classrooms that's right yeah and you don't remember where that comes from no i remember my remember my therapist, they all told me I was molested, but I'm like, eh, I kind of liked it, and I did like it, and there's a couple of kids I did it with that I was scared of.

So wait, they're saying that you doing this as a child was molestation? With sexual abuse or whatever, but I'm like, yeah. But what about prior to that? Were you abused prior to that? Not to my knowledge, no. No, and I don't think that every deviant experience

is based in abuse. I mean, maybe, but i don't think that every deviant experience is based in abuse i mean maybe but i don't remember it so i can't pretend it was i mean a couple of them maybe a couple of the older kids like that were like kind of bullies maybe that was like i remember being very afraid of them and then maybe you just learn to like it i don't know but at first grade second second grade yeah yeah you're performing oral sex. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And are they doing it back to you as well? Most of them did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Really? Oh, yeah. They were good eggs. I mean. And nobody. But by fifth grade, nobody's like, this guy sucks dick. Did you get your ass beat or what? Oh, boy, you're kidding me.

By second and third grade, which is why we left. I mean, it was. Because it's the 70s and 80s that is you're getting your ass kicked i got called a faggot a lot as a kid you can't say faggot now but believe me in 1978 you could oh did they on a megaphone a lot that's why i love this sensitivity to the word it's like you have no idea i don't want to hear it i mean. I mean, I remember being chased and having to jump on my parents' car because they were going to beat me up because I was like, you suck, you dick, you know.

Did you ever have parents talk to your parents about this? Not to my knowledge. I mean, I don't even know if they knew that their kids were little cocksuckers running around Edison. It was a fucking blowjob club. Bunch of little fucking fruits. fucking blowjob club bunch of little fucking fruits so not to my knowledge i mean man that's so yeah i'm just sitting here with my head spin it's so young for anything my first yes my first french kiss i didn't first of all i didn't even know you could put a tongue in someone sure my first kiss was a black girl we had moved to a new place it was

between the summer of fifth and sixth grade i'm in sixth grade well i'm in like that summer she's a year older it's a kid lives next to us his older sister and she and i kiss just lip yeah then i have a girlfriend you know sixth grade girlfriend we just go to movies and she and i kiss just lip yeah then i have a girlfriend you know sixth grade girlfriend we just go to movies and shit and in police academy she shoves her tongue down my throat and it it did what whatever happened to you that early on happened to me in that moment where i was like this is awesome holy shit like someone's putting their tongue in my mind. I didn't even know the concept of any of that just blew my mind. And then I was like, Oh,

that was sort of what awoke me to all that sixth grade. But you way early. You don't really remember what, what it was. The first one. I knew it felt good. It was a dirty secret. I always like scenarios.

Like I, I like set like in porn even, I like a scenario, a lead up, more than the actual sex even. I've had many, many sexual experiences in my life, but I haven't actually fucked nearly as many people as I could have because so many times the scenario and the lead up is what the turn on is to me. I guess because back then we had to make, we had to hide or we had to do things sneaky. So I've always kind of liked that angle on it because that's how it was when you were a kid. You couldn't let other kids know.

But anyway, I got out of Edison when I was in fourth grade. So that reputation didn't follow me to North Brunswick, which was great. So you can start over. You know what I mean? There's a whole new crop. A whole new crop of dicks. Yeah, and young vaginas too. uh pussy scared me at that age though that's why i want to ask you

your first sexual experiences were boys only no those girls do like but they were a little harder to get into i mean i remember the the the girl who would sit on my face with tinkle in her pants i loved her body she was again a year older than me. And I remember being like, trying to get her to sit on my lap because I loved her smooth, fat ass as a kid. Like, I was a big ass fan because a girl put my face on her ass when I was like in either second or third grade.

And I remember how cool it felt. Oh, I know. We were in the woods and she put her big dumper against my face and I loved it. But it changed my whole that became like a lifelong fetish, a nice ass on my face. All from that. From that moment.

Yeah, I remember the moment. I was kneeling by a tree and she put my face on her big ass cheek and it was, the temperature difference was so cool and I just liked it. It just felt so like different than anything I'd ever felt. I didn't know that I should have buried my face in it. I was just boy just rest but i learned i learned as time went on you know open the cheeks you goose get in there make sure she didn't miss anything oh my god so how old are you when you

lose your virginity to a girl intercourse 18 18 oh wow that i would not surprises me i know i know blow jobs everything else way earlier but intercourse 18 don't know i think i was scared yeah i was scared of sex i'm gonna say you probably had the opportunity to lose it much younger i would say yeah by a few years i mean again the experiences i was having were so many like little weird sexual things there wasn't a whole lot of fuck opportunities um but i also knew that there's pregnancy and there was other risks with that um and i think also we're the age generation like that got pumped into us in high school at least for me it was like aids like that can happen it wasn't die at that point for me it was a few years after that right right right but it did come along after that but i don't remember age being a concern we were both

virgins for a week it was a big concern i feel like in our school everybody's like and then after that everybody's like we're just we're 17 and horny what do you want us to do i know after magic johnson you're like you know what we're all dead let's just enjoy it yeah um but yeah 18 years old the first time i actually had intercourse and that was with a girlfriend oh yeah i really loved her and uh you know it was uh she's somebody I'm still friends with. It's funny. Like, we're still friends. We talk.

She lives, she moved out of the country years ago. But, yeah, it was my first intercourse was with her. And I loved it. What about first intercourse? Did you ever have sex with a man? I have, yeah. But not, I wasn't big on anal sex. As an adult.

Yeah, yeah. I've done everything. I mean, yeah. I mean, my wife has a dick. I mean, so it's like, you know, it's been a part of who I am. What do you prefer? You know, it depends on the day.

I mean, it really does. I believe you. I haven't had a vagina in a long time, but people say like, you're gay because you went to somebody trans. I'm like, I would tell you if I was. I'm definitely not straight. You're not straight if you married someone with a dick.

Again, I know sociology professors and gender studies professor you're hand around their fucking dumb glasses with things hanging off their glasses you know those fucking progressives that think they're just saying something so earth telling someone who is something shut the fuck up you're not yeah tell yourself what you want i don't care how other people i but let's be realistic about it. Because when you're not realistic, you lose everybody who would might otherwise be inclined to hear you out. Because you sound like a special interest parody and nobody wants to hear you. So, no. But I do like pussy.

I just haven't because I'm married. So, it's like, you know, I'm in that position where you sacrifice something when you, you know, fall in love. And I'm very happy. But, I mean, that is something I still love and wish i could partake in what's the first time you're with a trans you know i don't think i knew it at first i didn't like it at first i was the first time i saw somebody trans with sulca in 1983 or 84 watching porn she was a trans porn star in the 80s uh but i didn't know what it was i just knew like oh all right like it clicked it meant something um but i mean when i was getting

uh hookers down in new brunswick i didn't want trans girls um you know what i mean i didn't want to be gay like i just wanted i was just getting blow jobs but a few of them i remember like like i think so i think so but in hindsight yeah uh but then there was one girl like once this was i was in my 20s doing comedy and i picked her up and i just drove her back to like jersey city she's asked me for a ride so i was going home and uh she lived in the projects in jersey city so she kind of liked me and she's like hey let's hang out so it was just because she liked me we hung out and I fucked her. Raw dog did.

I mean, I was a trooper. I really was. That was Desert Storm. I went right in. Desert Storm. And she's, but I knew she was trans. But I, so I started telling those stories. Was that your first time?

No, first, anal. Maybe. Yeah. I don't remember. I mean, to be very honest. But I remember when I started talking about it publicly, which was probably around 2003, I was half honest. I would talk about it, but I would say like I didn't know.

I would lead into it. Like everybody pretends they don't know. And there were times where I didn't when I was younger. But once you see it, you always, you know. Yeah. I had one trans girl tell me, you have the eye. Like you always, I spotted from a mile, you know. I could tell somebody one trans girl tell me, you have the eye. Like, you always, I spotted from my, you know, I could tell somebody's transgender by their shadow.

Like, I just fucking, I know it. Their shadow. So, yeah, but, you know, you're still dealing, like, younger generation is nicer. They're gentler with this stuff. As much as they're annoying, and as much as they're fake, fake compassionate and actually vicious little pricks who try to pretend they're compassionate but they're really vicious um with that they're better like they're you know you're not automatically going to be called a faggot because you like something you know what

i mean like they're a lot better with stuff like that so uh it was hard talking about it as you know because again you you you talk about so much and then as you keep peeling layers of the onion publicly you're like how are people going to react to this but it still felt good to get to talk about it yeah and also there's no internet at first back then you know what i mean so so once the internet comes out and then the world sees trans sees all these different things, piss videos, shit videos, it starts to normalize after a while, at least where you're not so like, what are you even talking about?

You know what I mean? But yeah, now it's so, it's more divisive now than it was five years ago because of all the stuff with, it's now such a political thing. Like with the whole stupidity, the anger, the dumb anger over Bud Light, who gives a fuck, who's on a beer can, like it's just such a meaningless fight. But activists have gotten so crazy

with trans women in sports, and then parents are like, yeah, I'm kind of like on your side, but my daughter's just trying to swim and win, and you're pretending you don't see the physical difference. It's all pretend. I mean, the whole country's pretending. We're all, you know, conservatives are pretending

that they're actually righteous and that none of them cheat on their wives. And progressives are pretending that there's zero physical difference. And it's just, it's nonsense. It's all nonsense. So talk to me about the married life now. You're really into it, huh?

Love it. I love it. You do. There's times where it annoys me and the things that I thought would annoy me do she's a fucking she sleeps it's like i now know how poland felt when germany walked in that's what it's like sleeping with my fucking wife just splayed out because she's six feet tall all over the fucking place um i hate being touched in my sleep so those little things what do you mean you don't like to be touched no why i don't know what is that not because i was molested or anything

i don't just don't like it i'm weird do you wake immediately if someone puts their hand on your back or anything like that if she thinks about it i wake up don't don't do it like i know you want to i don't want to be caressed fuck off sleep. Sleep. But I love her, and I love to cuddle. But when it's time for bed, it's time for bed. Tell me this, then. What do you miss about being single? Because I'm 50, about to be 51, like I said. And it's funny.

I thought I'd be married by, I don't know, 27. Growing up in Maryland by 30, whatever tops. I'm still not, but I'm, I'm open to it. I'm not, I'm not one of those people. It's like, nah, I don't give a shit. Right. Cause also if it happens to me at 70, I only got to live with that one person. Absolutely.

10, 15 years. I got that. Tolerate him for a few years. Spend all the money. I don't know if I could put up with someone for 60 years. Like, do you ever, you ever ask your, you don't, your parents, how they do that they do that you're right they're from a different era but still these days they could just be like i'm sure you guys are all grown out of the house and everything knowing i won't have to helps like knowing again i'm 55 she's 26 she's gonna be alive without me um that kind of scares her that's a

good point um Big age difference. But, you know, it's like, I don't, what would I miss about it? I would think the addiction. I miss feeding into my addiction, even though it's really unhealthy and it's horribly depressing and lonely. You know, I haven't cheated on my wife. Now, any guy would say that,

but I can tell you I've cheated on every other partner. I have not had sexual i haven't touched another person it's insane that i haven't come with another person you know what i mean i've done like i've watched porn text message like you know things i shouldn't have done but i have not cheated on it's fucking insane to say that as a person who's cheated on everyone so i miss that i miss the addiction sometimes i miss running out and doing what i want and calling an escort like but i i just don't want to do it because i'm afraid i won't stop doing it um so you like that chase you i love it sure i mean even though it's really unhealthy and it

always makes me feel lonely even going back to picking up a prostitute there was more to it than it's a different mindset than seeing a lady at a bar and having to walk up to her and hi, I'm Jim. Yeah. And try to strike up that small talk and everything. Like all that bullshit's out of the way. No, you have that. You have it a little bit too with them, though, because I was ritualistic. Like, okay, I would pull up.

I would only talk to them if they came in on the passenger side window. Why is that? I don't know. It just became like this. they came in on the passenger side window um why is that i don't know it just became like this ocd driver's side now occasionally but mostly the passenger side i also felt it was safer to put distance between us because you know who you're dealing with um and you could just have a little conversation for a minute before they get in well there were times where women got in the car and we would drive um and i realized like, yeah, I'm just, I'm not that attracted to her. I don't want to do this. So I would pay him anyway and just drop him off and go, you know what?

I got to get home, but here, take it. And they never minded. So I liked the conversation. I always liked the conversation. I always liked hanging out, talking a little bit. This way, the sex feels like it just feels like more connected, I guess, without the burden of real connection. You know what I mean?

Without the pressure of really being connected, like and faithful. So you have like these mini relationships. But I never looked at sex workers as like disposable or shit. Like, I can just tie her up. And like, I looked at it like it was a mini relationship.

And it was transactional, of course. But when I was a kid, sex was transactional. Like when me and my friends would blow each other, we would trade sucks. What do you mean? We would count sucks. One, two. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And then it's like, hey, I gave you 20. You got to give me 20. And he would give 20. Yeah. Holy shit. Where are you going to do this stuff? This was in the woods in Edison. There were so many places.

Hallways. Hallways? Where? In apartments. I lived at the apartments growing up in Edison. Oh, like a complex? Yeah, yeah. Gotcha.

I mean, we'd always find, I mean, look, when you're a kid, if you want to blow someone or get blown, there's always room. You can always find a place to trade sex. So it was like a transactional thing. And I didn't realize that until the last few years. Like sex was always transactional for me. It was always, I guess with the bullies, it was a way to not get beaten up, to have these,

because there was two kids in particular, one really who I was terrified of. And I would do that to him. So my therapist, I think, pointed out to me that that was like a transactional thing. That was, I'll do this and you won't do that. You don't kick my ass. Yeah.

But I guess I've associated pleasure with it. So I didn't realize that's what it was. But it became, I guess, so that was where it started being transactional. And then trading 20 for you, 20 for me. And that was just how it carried on through my life. Like it just transactional became the way sex was. And in that sex worker world, you were never robbed or nothing like that.

Never in danger. I'm not saying never in danger. There was a few times where I was, but I always have a very good sense of danger. Like, and most times, you know, I'm not a threatening person and I'm not,

I was never into anything violent or, or, or being abusive so i if i felt something was wrong i would leave the situation and usually pay the person and you know even in that world if you just leave and there's no issue no people don't want to go to jail there's usually no reason for somebody to fuck with you like you i mean i also got very lucky and i have very good instincts so i was super careful um and feeling people out and talking to them but i had things happen like i would have somebody over the house i remember some girl went into the and i could hear her doing coke in my bathroom and i'm like what am i fucking like what if she is what if she dies well she's a fucking heart

attack this is where my this is why i always never even yep it's exactly nothing to do with me i didn't give her the coke like all of a sudden like look at this situation and how bad i had a couple of girls uh one girl tried to like blackmail me for my dirty text messages she's like well i could show them and i'm like first of all this is a felony you've just committed. Second of all, go ahead. Everyone knows I'm a pervert. I'll just, and then you can pay for lawyers when they sue you. Go fuck yourself. Like, so that really, that angle of it, I was really never worried about. That's the one advantage to being single and being comfortable being who you are, despite the shame. Yeah, right. Being comfortable making it funny. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, I'd i'd take the embarrassment i mean it would be embarrassing but i'll take that and then just i knew that like

her paying for lawyers would be a lot worse than me being embarrassed and then the next day she apologized and i was like it's cool we're good don't work you know um but i'm not i i'm filled with shame but when i'm talking dirty to somebody and they're talking dirty to me that's just what we're doing as adults. And you know what I mean? Like, I don't care. Give me some of the freakiest sexual stuff you've done.

You know, it's mostly the stuff we've talked about, like just being pissed on a little cuckolding stuff. I'm not into hardcore domination, like at all. I can spank and talk dirty. I've done that type of stuff, but I'm not a dominant person

sexually by nature, unless it's verbal. I'm really good at that. Like, and I'm very good at playing those roles, but physically I would much rather be a sub. Strap on, I could never really do. I dated the dominatrix once and she kept- Dated? Oh yeah. We really became like a real relationship for years and she quit the business and she wanted to peg me uh but i just kept hurting and i was just so ashamed that i couldn't accommodate her um she had a purple strap on i would run to the bathroom would you go fucking jim and i was like sorry i'm sorry you know sorry sorry my little hiney hurts 90 Hertz.

But it was mostly that stuff. Like mostly that stuff of again, piss. And so much of my stuff wasn't freaky. It was more like having girls come over, giving them money to sit on my face while I jerked off. Like just stuff like that. Like it was a lot of it was just, there was such a large amount of it,

but the acts themselves were not crazy. Do you know what I mean? Like there was nothing that crazy. I said, again, were you into humiliation? Not doing it unless the woman was really into it. Like for me,

the turn on and stuff like cuckolding or any type of humiliation is if it turns her on that I'm seeing this really sexy, dirty part of her. Like that she's, so there's a really weird, it may be a lie, but it feels like intimacy. Like when someone is letting you know that they have these bizarre fantasies or these really dark thoughts, it's like that turns you on.

And it turns me on that it turns you on. Like not the act is, I've had women talk about things that didn't turn me on at all. But the fact that they liked it, I was like, oh fuck, like that's so hot that I know more about her than somebody she's worked with for 10 years. Like she's a school teacher and she wants me to piss on her. Like no one knows that about her, but yet she's giving me that private thing. So there was something so connecting about that. And I didn't realize at the time, like it really was a search for some kind of a weird connection.

But it was the endless search for- Well, it goes back to doing that as a kid where you're hiding what you're doing and getting that pleasure too. The woods, what you said, if you want to find a spot, you'll find a spot. Yeah, the sneakiness of it. Right. So knowing the secrets. Right, you're in on this and I won't tell if you don't tell. I won't tell if you don to find a spot you'll find a spot yeah the sneakiness of it right so knowing the secrets right you're in on this and i'm and i won't tell if you don't i won't tell if you don't tell and somebody's sharing their secrets with me really would turn me on a lot um and i loved it

so yeah that's the type of stuff where uh we could you can go anywhere in fantasy it's great um and it's funny how many people will shame people for things they like sexually. And I don't, I don't mean things that are hurtful or fucking kids. I mean like just things that are, you know, weird or, or S and M related or any of this stuff.

I mean, there's got, I don't understand a lot of it. You know, the woman I dated who was a dominatrix, she said there was guys who wanted their balls kicked. Like that one blows me away. I don't get it.

These Japanese dudes on line where they'll have, they'll lay in their tighty whities yep and they'll have these cute um japanese girls in like bikinis or whatever and high heels and they fucking just stomp yeah stomp stiletto in the bag stomp yeah stomp and then some of them come i'm like how in the fuck could you come in that kind of paint like that's wild yeah what's what brand you got yeah what's crossed what why what wires what wire is touching the third rail and and and and redirecting what this feeling should be to your pleasure center like that should be unpleasant and fearful and yet that one stray wire is touching the third rail and it's just it's putting the current in the pleasure center yeah yeah it's wild yeah and i have that with a lot of things too but i like

i go through phases like feet um for a long time i was into feet and i was never in defeat but then you say into them fucking them looking at them i feel so silly i'm what smelling them and licking them uh but just fucking them i would feel like such a boob holding two feet together while she does an ab exercise she's fucking probably sitting there back hurts doing core work so i can fucking i can get a new high poor girl no i was never i've done that stuff but then after a while like i liked sexy big feet on a woman um and then all of a sudden it just fades away like you know you you just run through periods where you're like this and periods where you're like that like i envy people who aren't like that so you have cycles cycles not not feet aren't your

fucking thing forever and i don't feel right and i like the idea of being submissive with them but i'm not like a real like oh you're tootsies like i'm not like like that it's more it like one woman i used to talk to was really dominant and like to make guys wear panties but she liked it so it turned me on so i would do it because it turned her on but if it didn't turn a woman on, I would never just show up in five eyes and go, what do you think? Who's the pretty girl? Like Jane gum.

It has to be very, very much their thing because somebody doing something just for me, I never really liked. Cause that's not the secret. I'm the same. Yeah. I'm the exact same. And also, they have to be comfortable with you enough and safe with you enough to tell

you that thing and hope to God you don't shame them or be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. I think, and that's one thing I've heard, probably because I've been open about my own shit. I've heard that from so many women have told me these things about themselves that are really private and really would humiliate them. But I think they know I'm not going to judge them.

Like I'm never going to say, even if it's not my thing, even if it's something I'm not necessarily into at all, I'm not going to scold them because they get turned on by talking about it or by thinking about it or by watching videos of it. Like, you know what I mean? I think they knew that they were at least safe to tell me. Right.

And the response would never be, what? You fucking never. And I didn't ever. And I've heard some things that just weren't for me, but you know, hey, if you want to fuck a horse, if you can find one, God bless. Have you really had people say? Of course. Yeah? Of course. Yeah. But I don't even think they would have done it it they just liked the idea of it because they were dirty so they knew they could explore that and they told me i wouldn't care again it doesn't really turn me on like

fucking horses smell yeah big dumb animals i don't want i just it's not my thing but that's what you like go ahead i don't care this has been awesome dude i gotta tell you it's been very enlightening to sit and talk to you about all this but i wanted to i've been wanting to talk to you yes it's great thank you man sure thank you your first time here so before we wrap up and promote everything again advice you'd give to your 16 year old self take an acting lesson you blinky little idiot take a fucking acting lesson you fucking no audition landing fool. Stop playing with your nipples. It's going to be a lifelong obsession.

Stop it. I would tell myself that. All right. That's great advice. I've heard deep advice from people. Love yourself. For me, take an acting lesson. Continue to hate yourself because it's going to make you a lot of money someday. And stop playing with your nipples.

That's great, dude. Thank you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. It was fun. Please promote everything again. of money someday and stop playing with your nipples that's great dude thank you thank you for doing this thank you it was fun um please promote everything again jimnorton.com for dates i got i got some gigs in california here like monterey petaluma um i got uh rogan's club uh in march i'm doing the mothership i got pittsburgh houston dallas um buffalo is on sale now i got kind of everywhere indianapolis oklahoma all these places i haven't been to or haven't been to in years kentucky uh so i hope people come out and see me all right and uh nicky and jim nyc is this youtube channel i do it my wife and it's just little pieces of our

lives because everybody seems to have an opinion on what a relationship like ours is like so we're just showing like little slices of it. That's it. Hope you like it. Thank you again. Thank you. As always, Ryan Sickler and all your social media.

Come see me on tour. Tickets are available at Ryan Sickler dot com. We'll talk to you all next week. Thank you.