The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Prof - Honeyapolis

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:47 The Honeydew with Ryan Sickler. This episode of The Honeydew is brought to you by Upstart, Liquid IV, Ritual, and Magic Spoon. More on that later. Let's get into the do. The Honeydew, y'all. We're over here doing it in the Nightpan Studios. I'm Ryan Sickler, ryansickler.com, Ryan Sickler on all social media. I want to tell you about tour dates, September 16th through the 18th. I'm in Phoenix at the House of Comedy, September 30th to October 2nd. I'm in Helium Indie.
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Starting point is 00:02:18 You get the whole back catalog, all that shit. And ringtones of my laugh are available. Again, don't know why the fuck y'all been asking me for that, but I did it. It's out there. So now you better use it. Go to go to my website and you can find info there. It's available on iTunes everywhere. You get ringtones.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Ringtones of my laugh are out there. And honeydew athletes keep sending them in. I'm looking for everybody out there that's different. I want different. I don't want but I want good. OK, you got to be good. You can't just be, you know, I'm looking for everybody out there that's different. I want different. I don't want, but I want good. Okay? You got to be good. You can't just be, you know, I fucking play Frisbee golf and I came in last.
Starting point is 00:02:51 No, I want the guy that's hole in one in Frisbee golf. All right? That's who we want over here. You all know what we do. We highlight the lowlights. These are the stories behind the storytellers. I can't tell you how excited I am to have today's guest here. First time on the honeydew
Starting point is 00:03:06 ladies and gentlemen please welcome prof welcome to the honeydew prof how exciting is this um i just want to talk about your ringtone dude you mentioned you mentioned you're like oh all this business and the behind the scenes stuff and you're like yeah then we're gonna talk about the ringtones. And then you said the ringtone and my laugh. And then that's just kind of all I want to talk about. We can. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Listen, I've been podcasting for like 10 years. And for 10 years, people have been saying that. I don't use ringtones. Do you use ringtones? Hold on a second. Hold on, it's my grandma. Hang on, my grandma's calling. Like what grandma died oh shit imagine that's the worst news you're getting after that not just some terrible fucking news who's got kids yeah oh man oh perfect they keep calling perfect you fucking stalking somebody with my laugh
Starting point is 00:04:00 what's my stalker calling again like it's like a dollar 29 on itunes y'all uh people been asking it for so long and finally i just hit my label up thank you dom at uh blonde medicine and i was like man people want this can you help me and he figured it out and did it and there they are they're out there i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it please i would love it um so before we get into everything you'd like to talk about man plug everything you got going no you really don't want to plug anything no you gotta plug something no all right you're the first guest that's official i mean oh this is my twitter this is my like you know that's where you want to find let me try out first if you like this interview and you like all
Starting point is 00:04:44 this stupid shit i say then figure it out you know all right fair enough yeah i do things it's out there all right so i wanted to get into your life story because i know you rap i know you're a minneapolis guy but you didn't come up easy this is why you're on the fucking show so start start just go from birth well yeah so uh my manager was super hyped he's like oh this is this is a direct hit for you this this this podcast you know ryan sickler the honeydew he's like look into it and i looked and it was like we're highlighting the low lights i'm like oh yeah this is directed for me yeah this is perfect you know for my fucked up life and we're talking about how we wrote your a fucking trauma and a list and it just wrote your fucking trauma in a list. Hearing my trauma in a list back-to-back without any of the good things, it's like, oh, shit, how am I alive?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Right? Without any of the good shit in between. How did I get here? You also realize that most of life is bad. It's the highlights. There's highlights. You got to celebrate those. That's what gets me through.
Starting point is 00:05:41 See what happens next. You know what I mean? I like to keep working at things and make things and see what happens next. So I was born in Minneapolis in Powderhorn, which was like a super, super hood place in the 80s and 90s. Really high murder rate. To a mom and a dad. Were they married? So right off the bat, i was a mistake with the family
Starting point is 00:06:08 that was already separated you know what i mean so oh so your parents have been together and split it was my dad's one last fuck you know i'm saying like they were already split up they hated each other yeah like so there was three girls christy charity sarah and then and then it was like over and then my dad little you know some pillow talk whispered a couple more sweet sarah and then and then it was like over and then my dad little you know some pillow talk whispered a couple more sweet nothings and then pow it was me so i'm happy my mom didn't abort me so that was cool so you're the youngest of four then yeah but then there's some mixed blended family shit and lots of girls in my family oh really yeah um and yeah it'll get complicated but um so then i was born yeah in
Starting point is 00:06:45 powderhorn came up in powderhorn parents separated like right away like my first memories were uh like i asked my mom the other day i'm like we're i have a memory and i that's just i've had in my head of like milk everywhere you holding me we are both wet and then i'm like looking off a porch and like my papa we call him papa but then i'm like looking off a porch and like my papa we called him papa but like dad's getting arrested or something she's like oh my god she's like you were two you were two years old no way yeah that's that's that oh shit stuck in your head when i was two she's like you were legit two years old and that's a real memory and what did she tell you happened they got into a fight um she threw milk at him
Starting point is 00:07:26 or something like her you know baby bottle or something and it was all over and he was getting arrested and putting shoved in a cop car so it was my first memory and um jesus that's the first memory yeah yeah you're perfect for this show yeah i know like you know i'm like i'm nervous sitting here right now because i'm like oh oh, God, I got some juicy shit for you, man. It's going to be a five hour podcast. Yeah. So then they separated. And he, you know, turns out later, much later, I learned he was just totally fucked up.
Starting point is 00:07:56 He was he was mentally unstable. He was bipolar, you know, super abusive. Did they know that back then? No, no. When they're finding this out. No, they didn't. We didn't know that. He was so smart. He was so smart. I don't think people were they know that back then or is that when they're finding this out no he they didn't we didn't know that he was so smart he was so smart diagnosed like that back then but he was so charismatic yeah if he was on a high cycle you know on some uh fucked up shit and said he would just he would control the room he was a preacher you know i mean people
Starting point is 00:08:19 fucking loved him and then he'd come home and fucking whoop my ass you know what i mean like oh really yeah he was he was so charismatic he was so intelligent super tortured man you know so uh i don't know where to go when your parents split do you live with mom do you get to see dad do you bounce back and forth i live with mom i live with mom um and she she's like the best person i've ever met any anybody meets her they're like oh my god without her i'd be in jail dead i'm sure you hear this people say that a lot but after some of the stories you might hear you'd be like oh you're without her i would be fucked up so you know um i stayed with her you know and there's like stories of like i thought i my childhood was amazing you know and i remember having like this big teddy bear for a bed
Starting point is 00:09:06 being like, I have a, you know, my bed is a gigantic teddy bear, but like, then the story comes out that it was just a big like fair toy that they found on the back,
Starting point is 00:09:14 on the highway. You know what I'm saying? That's what I was sleeping on. You know what I mean? So, a fair, fair. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:20 like a left, like just fucking on the side of some garbage. They just picked up some garbage. Well, there goes that motherfucker. And I slept on that, that you know i threw 97 miles an hour for that god damn it that's my bed that's my bed yeah uh so uh but then you know my mom was like she she wanted a father in my life because he was a good disciplinarian hey but um when he was on he was he
Starting point is 00:09:44 was he was a great person a lot of the times. But the thing was, it was just, wow. And then it would be someone completely different. But I have a lot of really good memories with him.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Really good education. Let me ask you, what did your mom do? A teacher. She was a teacher. Yeah, we were in Section 8, poverty, like it was crazy. She was a single mother
Starting point is 00:09:59 with four kids. You can't do this no more. I don't know how anyone ever did. Single mother, four kids, Section can't do this no more so i don't know the success story single mother four kids uh section eight uh on welfare went to a community college got a degree became a teacher supported all of us on that bought a house like right no millennials can do that kind of shit teachers i say this all the time when we grew up teachers had homes. There wasn't a teacher I had in school living in an apartment. Yeah, that's so fucked up. They can't buy houses
Starting point is 00:10:30 anymore. You're right. When I grew up, teachers weren't homeless. It was a great time. I think they should let them live at the school. You know, what the fuck? Live, work. Or pay them a decent wage. Okay, so she brings... So she brought my dad in. He won half custody
Starting point is 00:10:45 and then I was just, you know, back and forth one week on, one week off living in a suitcase for 15 years. Yeah. And what was it like living at dad's?
Starting point is 00:10:55 It was the shit. He let me swear. Super real boy, tomboy shit, you know, fighting. Like, you know, with all my sisters, when a suitor would come my sisters were older than me and when anybody tried to date my sister suitor that's such a that's so you're all fast what am i saying and when when a boy tried to fuck my sister
Starting point is 00:11:16 a guy came around yeah he would throw fucking boxing gloves on and in the backyard just in the hood and potterhorn he'd be like there you Potterhorn. He'd be like, there you go, buddy. And he'd be like, hold on. I come to date your sister before I'm allowed to take her out. I got to fight your dad. I got a new thing I'm doing. My room. You watch my room.
Starting point is 00:11:37 I'll go right into my bedroom. I flip open the blinds and I'll just watch my dad beat the shit out of teenage boys. Underage kids. Yeah. He's abusing them out in the backyard yeah oh shit look motherfucker I got three girls let me beat one more yeah so no he so the boys would be really nervous oh yeah yeah so it was a crazy uh psychology experiment right he'd be like he could figure out anything he wanted to about these kids so he'd be they'd be warm up the boys would be giggling then? He'd be like, he could figure out anything he wanted to about these kids. So they'd be warm up. The boys would be giggling. Then my pops would be like, bah!
Starting point is 00:12:09 Just a jab, just right to the head. And they'd be like, what? And he'd be like, that's a joke, huh? Bah, bah! And he'd hit them
Starting point is 00:12:16 a couple times. And then he'd wait, see how they react, what kind of person they are. I love it, though. It's crazy as fuck, but I do love the psychology fucking nuts yeah yeah holy so then yeah a couple times if they'd hit him then it would open my dad
Starting point is 00:12:32 up for some a real gut shot or something to the stomach or something yeah so it was like i'm not gonna fuck with this kid yeah he was here the ones you can take yeah uh and then he would decide you know after if they were cool and deserved the respect or whatever. And then they could date his daughters. Jesus. What was it like for you to bring girls around him? He burned my house down before I did that. So I don't think I really brought girls around him, really.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I wasn't talking to him at that point. What happened? I was 15, and we got new. I was getting older, and I was figuring out, oh, this shit isn't normal. Stronger also. You know what I mean? No, I wasn't getting stronger. That didn't happen until I was like, that never happened.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I was like, man, that doesn't make any sense i don't even remember what we were arguing about but there was this huge fight when i was 15 i was like i get it now fuck you man like this is and he wasn't diagnosed no one knew he was you know only after he died did we like it this these secrets come up like addicted to opiates and like bipolar and you know i don't know if he's officially diagnosed or undiagnosed or whatever, you know. But he was crazy. Like we would go to McDonald's, one trip to McDonald's, the whole family, after we would work, he would take us to workouts at the YMCA,
Starting point is 00:13:59 and then we'd go to McDonald's afterwards and just eat a bunch of junk food. It was the 90s. My mother used to take us to McDonald's. She'd be like, get your food. We'd eat it. And she'd be like, I'm dropping you off at soccer practice. I'm like, we just ate fucking trash. People were dumb.
Starting point is 00:14:16 We just took things for granted. We weren't like, what's in this? Whatever. But wait, you jumped over. You said he burned your house down. We can't just jump over it. Oh, yeah. We'll get there, but this is some psychology before. I get there, but I'm showing – this is some psychology before.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I just don't want to make sure we forget. This is some psychology before. So we're going to McDonald's after a workout, and he sees a big SUV filled with bloods throw some trash. And they drove out. So this is the type of dude. He goes, you you know what's his family all his kids you know white dude and you know fucking he goes go inside order this food you know don't you know and then he just tells us all to go in there order food so i'm like all
Starting point is 00:14:58 right whatever and i'm in there ordering food and he's got this like starter jacket that's like reflective it's like nighttime now. I'm ordering my food. And then like I see this jacket just moving around like faster than a human could move around. Like that's all I see. I just see this jacket just being tossed around. I'm like, no, no, no. And I keep on ordering for like another 30 seconds. And I was like, no, I got to look back.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I got to look back again. And he's getting his fucking ass kicked. And I'm going to my stepmom. I'm like, hey, to look back. I got to look back again. And he's getting his fucking ass kicked. And I'm going to my stepmom. I'm like, hey, look at this. And he just decides to fight, you know, like eight to ten, like, fucking Cambodian bloods, like, because they littered. You know what I'm saying? And he's in this. You either pick the trash up or you shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Well, he told them. He said, pick that fucking shit up. You know? And then they're like, what? You know, like, they all get out the car and he's like, pick that shit up. You know what I mean? Like, and he's, he, he was a big dude, you know, like I'm six one. He was probably six, two, six, three.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And like, he was, it was, he was fighting like eight dudes and he was, he was so fucked up, lumped up Quasimodo shit. And, you know, and then he came back, uh, and like the, the cops were there and I remember him sitting in the mcdonald's table like and i was just right across from him and he was like that's what we do you know he's like yeah and he he was fucked up his face looked different and i remember being like oh so yo from then on i was like i'm a fighter i'm a fighter that's that's my blood so you know oh so that's just some psychology of this man. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah. And so, yeah, I got into a lot of fights when he was, after he died and I was getting drunk and battling and rapping and shit on the streets. I was just fighting everybody, you know. So, psychology of the man. Boom, fast forward a little bit later and he's, you know, he's in the basement lighting a fire to the house. Now, is this his house or your mom's place? This is his house now. My mom moved out, married again.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And I don't remember what we were arguing about, but I remember being like, fuck you, and he was devil-faced. I knew that switch. It was serious. We had a circular dinner table, and we were moving around that thing. You know what I mean? So, um, and then I left without anything. Fuck you. He was so brilliant.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Every argument he won and he would shape people's thoughts, you know? And this is the first time I was like, that's not going to happen anymore. You know, and I was his son. He always wanted a son. It was all about that masculinity, that testosterone. So like he, he, he basically manifest destiny to me. You know what I mean? So like, um, I was really important to him and the control was really important for him. Can I ask you this? Like during the time you said he was abusive when he was with your mom, did he continue to be abusive when you would go to his place for the week at a time?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Still physically abusive as well he uh you know talking back to my sisters and everything um he was like mentally abusive to them and he would throw he would do things like just flip over fucking you know an argument if he didn't win he would just but he never hit them he never hit them uh and he hit me um and they didn't know that i was like like, I never told you? You never did it in front of them either? No.
Starting point is 00:18:11 There was one time I swear my sisters were around, and he fucking licked me up, and he threw me down the stairs. You know what I mean? Jesus. And I swear they were there. I don't remember which sister it was. A lot of my memories are really foggy over these events in the past. And so the burning down the house one is the same. I don't remember everything about it. But I remember I was like, nope, argument ain't going to happen. You're not going to shape my shit. And so the burning down the house one is the same. I don't remember everything about it,
Starting point is 00:18:29 but I remember I was like, nope, argument ain't going to happen. You're not going to shape my shit. And I left, cooled off, went to a neighborhood girlfriend's house and hung out there for an hour or two, had to come home for dinner or something or whatever. And I call home landlines, busy, call home landlines, busy, call home landlines busy call home landlines busy call home landline busy all right well can you just drop me back off you know and so they drop me back off in the neighborhood you know right in potterhorn right in the hood 32nd 16th boom you know and there's just fucking the whole you can't even get two blocks to it there's there's seven or eight fire uh trucks police cars and everything and do you think right away it's your shit no no no i'm like oh shit yeah here goes again who's dead you know that's what it is like in the hood i'm like oh dope you know
Starting point is 00:19:18 like when i was a kid i didn't know how you know like i i took pride in that shit because it made me tough like bitch i saw you know like Bitch, I saw some shit today again. So I'm thinking, oh, this is crazy. I'm like, just drop me off here. So my girlfriend's dad, he was like, okay. Took a left or whatever. And then I'm like, crazy. Duck under the lines.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And then I'm like, crazy. This is real close. Running up more and more. this is real close you know running up more and more and then bro like i i returned and the house was on fire on fire like it was on fire and it was god it's like a fucking movie uh i was screaming and um i ran right all these fire they were firemen weren't paying attention nothing i just went right in my front lawn hey and they're just running around me no one's like picking me up or moving me it was the most dramatic shit i'm at my knee like no like seriously screaming right in front like 10 feet away from this. Fire's coming out of the fucking windows.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Platoon shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you freaking out? Like, are your sisters in there? Is your dad in there? I'm alone.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I don't know where anybody is. Fuck. I don't know what the fuck happened. And they could be in there. You don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we lost like a dog, an iguana, like some pets and shit burned. So no one was in there?
Starting point is 00:20:47 Family? No family was hurt okay um so what happened then my sister arrives i don't know where she was at and then she's like you know i was like no but then a tough boy like damn you know what's going on and she was just she hugged me broke down cried like crazy screaming crying for you know the whole time and i was like oh yeah this is serious and then in the back of my mind i was like i don't know what happened you did huh then that's when you thought it like he did this yeah where's he at oh he's gone oh the car's gone he's not around yeah so we knew that and then you know i went on some trip like the day after or something like that was scheduled, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:21:28 um, and we knew we just lived in a, a hotel for a while. Now that he, do you think he did it for insurance or do you think he just did it? No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:21:36 no. He did it because of me. Just pissed off. Pissed off. I mean, I don't, I don't take, I don't take,
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't take responsibility for it, but sure. You should. Yeah. He didn't do it because it's not because of me. You know, I don't care what argument it. Sure, you should. He didn't do it because... It's not because of me. I don't care what argument you have. Burning someone's home. Your own home.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Your own home. That's where I live, too. Man, hey, can't control his boy anymore. It was kind of like... Son, eat father. Father, eat son shit. Someone's killing someone, and it was just like that so that shapes a lot of my fucking my language you know like you know i say a lot of rough shit just because it fucking feels good you know so that happened and then you know
Starting point is 00:22:20 he escaped and was like on the run for a while. Fucking, they found him with his wrist. He was a nurse. So he knew how to slit his wrist. He was a nurse too? He was a nurse. He was a nurse. He was a preacher. He was a fucking.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. He like studied lots of shit. He was fucking brilliant. And so, but yeah, he knew how to slit his wrist. They found him in fucking in a hotel in Duluth with like blood on the ceiling in a tub. Barely saved him. And then so like for that summer, you know, we figured out he came back. He was alive.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And he, you know, he wore that classic fucking bandages around his wrists all summer long because it was that deep shit. I don't know how he didn't die. And then the next four years are super fuzzy. I was just doing my thing. Do you remember ever having a conversation with him about why he burned the house down? This is the biggest open wound of my entire life. Never happened. I didn't talk to him for a long time.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And he fucking decided to die before I could resolve anything. So I want to say 15 you said was how old you were when the house was on fire? 15 is when the house was on fire. He died when I was like 20 or something. So you only had a five-year window that you don't know you have obviously and you never got to have that
Starting point is 00:23:28 conversation of why you burned that is worse than anything there's no resolution uh and that's why like i use rap as like i figured it out you know fucking some fucked up shit happened to me in 2020 and i'm like thinking about my past trying to figure out why I am why I am and like I use rap to take control back from my dead father I love it that's about what it is I mean it's what I do I use humor to combat the abuse from my mother and everything I've dealt with it's yeah humor man yeah I got in trouble for humor in some tweets. But I'm like, that's what gives me resolution and control over those things. If I can joke about them, bro, that's not a problem to me no more. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You know? Yeah. And that's why I fucking do that shit. You take the power away from it. Exactly. But like I say all the time, too, like, healthy people, look, you need to sit in your own shit. You need to sit there for a little bit. You need to look around.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You need to smell it. You need to feel it. You need to know what your own shit you need to sit there for a little bit you need to look around you need to smell it need to feel you need to know what that's like and then you need to decide am i going to stay here or am i going to get the fuck up out of here and move forward that's it if someone can self-deprecate in humor when i boom if i meet someone and they fucking insult themselves with humor i'm like right away wide open door man what's your number like that that takes that's just a sign of so many good- Well, you all should have showed up at the comedy store Saturday night when you had tickets. That's where I was. I'll self-deprecate myself all night on stage.
Starting point is 00:24:52 That was wild. Just to let everybody know, we had tickets to his show. We didn't even know you were performing. They don't advertise it, right? You've got to go on their social media and look for it, but they promote it. We missed out. Usually what they do is put the lineups up. You know what I mean? And then you just got to look for the names. Fuck, if we would have known, we would promote it. We missed out. Usually what they do is put the lineups up, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:05 And then you just got to look for the names. Fuck, if we would have known, we would have canceled what we were doing. It's all good. We missed that show. But I love that you take that and harness it and use it that power that way. Let's take a quick break and tell you about our first sponsor, Upstart. If you are carrying a credit balance month after month, it can feel like you're in a never-ending cycle of debt.
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Starting point is 00:28:33 Now, let's get back to the do. I've got a lot of things I want to ask you. What other things did you want to talk to your dad about that you didn't get to? Or what are you looking back on it now? Okay, because you haven't said this yet, but're a father now you had a baby you had a daughter no no no but i had a baby you had a baby well now everybody knows it's a son yeah no not a daughter i just had a baby i thought you said my girl but you meant your girl had yeah my girl had a baby gotcha so So you have a son. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And not a year yet or coming up on a year. He was born right when the entire world shut down in COVID. Well, did that scare the fuck out of you? That was very, very scary. Having a baby in a hospital during all that. Yeah. Like everybody was scared when COVID and everything locked up, but like we were in a hospital and then they kicked everybody out. Then my baby had some crazy shit where he had to stay in the ICU for seven days.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So we were sleeping and we were sleeping on the floor in a hospital, you know, waking up every three out, trying to feed him, you know, all that kind of crazy shit. And every time we would go walk down to see my guy, my little dude in the ICU, everything changed. Like it was like a weird story of like auschwitz i don't know if it's bad but like more things happening every time we go downstairs there's another fucking police officer more police officers then there's tape then there's ropes then it's like so every time we went up and down i'm like oh shit so like day three i was like this is some weird militarized i'm like man no one knew what the fuck was going on. This dude is like in tubes and shit up his nose and fucking getting pricked all the time. I'm like, this is the craziest shit that's going to happen to me in 2020.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Not even close. So, yeah, he turned out to be good. So let's go back. Now you're a father. Yeah. I mean, my father was everything to me. He died when I was 16 to me he died when i was 16 and i know when i was just sitting there holding my daughter in my arms boom i mean it
Starting point is 00:30:29 was this bittersweet moment where i'm so happy to be a dad but i don't have one i can't i have no library of information to go to like how the fuck did you do you had twins bro why didn't you bounce in the 70s you know what i'm saying like you were a real fucking man you're a twin how'd you do that yeah fraternal twin but um you know boom boom and nothing and all these moments and so i my daughter knows who my father is and there was one night she just started crying why are you crying she's like i miss grandpa lefty and i just start bawling i was like i do too like what the fuck are you you didn't even met him so i got pictures of him around the house i make sure she knows who that everyone is i make sure she knows where she comes from anytime she falls and gets hurt i make sure i tell her she's got baltimore blood in her get the fuck up you know you ain't no pussy man they're santa monica pussies yeah first time i hear you and you're like y'all
Starting point is 00:31:17 something i'm like what is he from texas what the fuck i couldn't get it but yeah baltimore all right yeah so yeah but losing someone what are you dealing with as a father right now and losing your father? You know, how is that affecting you? I mean, the other day I was like, man, as an adult in my 20s, I was looking back. I was like, I wish I had someone like a role model man who could let me know what's happening to me in my 20s. Yes. And then I went, oh, that's a father. I was like, oh, that's a dad.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Oh, shit. I guess I wish I had a dad. Yes. Teach me about money and not just how to spend it and save it. You know, teach me about all kinds. I don't know anything. Teach me about, like, my anger and drink and drugs and shit. Teach me about, like, what happens with a job or like those kind of
Starting point is 00:32:06 things yeah you know so yeah the best thing my father did and you didn't get this but well maybe you did because you said he was charismatic he worked he hustled he gave me a lot but yeah i my father was an example of how to be. So I didn't get those conversations from 17 to 48. But my father was an example of the type of person and man to be. And that was enough. Okay. I got it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You know. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck. I don't know. I get triggered. It's, you know, and there's times, like you said, like when your daughter says something like that or, you know, when, you know, if you get big, big life events, boom, that's just, that just bloodlines gone. Like, that's such a, like a crazy, bittersweet thing to like share with other people too.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Like, I love like hurt, hurt people who like can sympathize with that and understand what that feels like. And it's just like a deeper meaning. And it's like, for me, it's just a crazy hole that I think a lot of anger comes from me. You know what I mean? That I still kind of got to deal with. You know, because he did. All he did was fight North 20.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And he never. I wish I could just approach him as a man and just be like, you know, who I am now. I wish he could see who I am now and sit down with him. But it'd be interesting to see who he is now too you know and i wonder too if being a grandfather changes the man too absolutely you know he was trying to change like because my mother's a better grandmom than she was a mom to you know i know that yeah well probably in my 20s i would want to fight him like if you if i were to bring him back to life, I would be like, all right, let's fight. I wouldn't even want to talk.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And now I'm like, maybe I'll just ask him some questions and shit and see if forgiveness is something. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's because you're healing. Yeah. You don't want to fight all the time. Plus, you can't be – you're not – you look like you're – I swear to God, you look like you're goddamn 27 to 30. You told me you're 37. But you can't be that dude in your 40s still fist fighting people.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You know what I'm saying? Only from self-defense. Yeah. Last time I got in a fight, it was in St. Louis, and I jumped off stage and hit a fan in the stomach. For what? What did he do? He took my microphone at the fucking climax of the show. We have this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 We're going back out for the encore and I'm like yeah and I hold the microphone over the crowd like this on the stand and he just goes cloop and then I need to do that and grab the microphone
Starting point is 00:34:31 for like some last thing and he's like and he's all drunk and he runs away and I still got like I've been good but sometimes it goes cloop
Starting point is 00:34:38 boom and a clip I'm just like just run out there and I'm just I'm like going on a cross put one in his stomach
Starting point is 00:34:44 and take my microphone back. It was cool. I don't know where we're headed with this. A lot of anger and rage. Oh, yeah. All right, so now all that's happening with your dad and everything. Where is mom? Obviously, your relationship is super strong.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Is she just that backbone for you to go and talk to? Yeah, always, all the time. She's always been there. And well, listen, your mom's dealt with men in her life. It's not like she can't fucking give you some sound advice on men as well. You know, my mom was a G. She's like a cute little tiny, very beautiful, like a blonde woman. But then I ask her questions about stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She's I ran away from house when I was 16. I hitchhiked to California and in a girl's house. I'm like, wow. woman but then i ask her questions about stuff she's i ran away from house when i was 16 i hitch hiked to california and one of them in a girl's house i'm like wow you she's a hood motherfucker oh damn you a thug you a thug so um yeah i'm just did you ever ask your mom what she saw on your dad and what it was about him that got them together originally no but i don't i don't need to the dude could win over anybody yeah he was on if he wanted to you know yeah he could win over anybody anytime so i want to ask this question when they found him near death did he also get arrested for arson like did they yeah he went to prison so he went to prison so how did you visit him in prison fuck
Starting point is 00:36:02 no i didn't talk to him for like five years until he fucking died he was on a fucking stationary bike at the ymca in minneapolis no the one he would take you guys to it's at mcdonald's that motherfucking mcdonald's came back to get him got that that motherfucking mcdonald's oh that's terrible. He tried to fight his way through it, too. He's like, ah. No, it wasn't. He was like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:36:31 He's like, ah, man, a heart attack? Ah, ah, I'm going to out-pedal this shit. You're on a stationary bike. You ain't going nowhere, bro. You ain't walking a heart attack off, bro. Yeah, yeah. So he died there? Yeah, in front of like a bunch of yeah like yeah and when all right
Starting point is 00:36:47 so so fun that's funny it is that's weird like i would like to say like he died in a shootout or something no he died on a stationary bike at the y at the ymca southdale minneapolis in front a lot of people yeah in front of people working out the headphones in and shit that's terrifying if you're them to see that go down yeah i'm not gonna i'm stopping workouts over this exercise bikes ain't no good for you right yeah i'm done working out let's go to mcdonald what do you continue as they've like just take them out on a stretch you're dead i'm gonna i'm gonna kill this workout but that is how life is that's how life is your dad's gone out gone and everybody else is just pedaling on bikes. I remember we did the Vegas Comedy Festival like two years ago,
Starting point is 00:37:26 and we're walking down the street, and someone literally on this corner over here gets shot. He's right there. Well, we're all there. You hear people scream. This motherfucker's shot. He's dead. But everybody's walking by with their hurricanes,
Starting point is 00:37:38 just sipping their straws and shit. You know what I mean? Life doesn't give a fuck. I like that about it, though. There's something about that. After a huge death or something like that or something fucking awful, there's something comforting. The birds don't give a fuck. The sun's going to rise and it's going to be like, do-de-do-do-do-de.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I like to imagine myself when I meditate. I don't know how to meditate, but I like to have a cup of coffee in the morning and then just pull my head about 300 feet in the air and just look around at the trees and shit. And that's fucking – they don't give a fuck what happened man anything i've never had that thought i'm gonna try that now that's what i do every morning that is meditating then you do know what it is i don't know what it is but i like to float in the air and just look at the city fuck yeah i usually sit up on a cloud you know um wait i want to go back to your dad dying. Walk me through that day for you. Who calls you? How do you find out?
Starting point is 00:38:28 What happens? I was in an apartment. I was living in an apartment with my sister in uptown. And I was like with my ex-girlfriend at the time. I don't know what the fuck. She was coming to get something or something. And I'm just got to get a phone call from my sister. Dad had a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:38:43 My ringtone coming in well dad's dying all right and then your sister called he's having a heart attack oh shit fucking okay that's crazy and then second call he's dead you know and then i just sank to the fucking floor what did that feel like legs gave out um no platoon shit i'm in the front i'm in front of my house as it's burning down uh felt fucking really weird like this is this is happening right now it's really crazy that i've a lot of and familiar familiar really weird tragic feeling that's had a lot of familiar, familiar, really weird, tragic feeling. That's had a lot of it. Here it is again.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Like here it comes. It's I can't explain it. It's like something's unreal. Some Twilight Zone type shit, but it's deep and it hurts and it's like fake. It's not real. And that was going on. Oh, this is familiar. Familiar feeling. Yeah. fake it's not real and that was going on and i'm oh this is familiar familiar feeling yeah um
Starting point is 00:39:48 how did your mom react to that do you remember i don't remember you have you ever talked to your mom about your dad passing did she come to the funeral and stuff like that or was it like was it that bad where she wouldn't even do that she was at the funeral she was i think i don't know yeah right uh-huh i've i've i think i have a lot of really i think uh losing memory over traumatic events is real i think that's really happening oh it definitely did i remember my dad's i remember the viewing way better than i remember the funeral i don't remember the mass i remember the ride to the. I don't remember what was said or who the fuck talked at. I remember throwing some dirt on the motherfucker and getting out of there. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I remember like walking, like everybody looking at me like, you know, as I walk in with his fucking casket or whatever. And then like sitting down and being like, who's looking at me? I'm a young dude. And here's my dad. You know, I remember that and, you know, I'm sure I had conversations with my mom and shit
Starting point is 00:40:48 but like, bro, I don't remember. I've toured the country 15 times over again every single fucking city and so like, my memory's fucked. I've done so many things
Starting point is 00:40:58 and lived so fast. Like, I don't remember shit. So, that's the end of the episode, I guess. All guess all right so i want to talk to you about when you first realized you had this gift and uh rapping and how you sort of put your energy and time into that it was a fucking survival technique you know like i i was living in powderhorn i was getting my ass whooped all the time like white kid in powderhorn in 1990s was you know it wasn't that easy you know i'm saying i will get beat up how many other white
Starting point is 00:41:30 kids were there just you and your sisters yeah just my family there were three other ones yeah we all lived together no like i would love to go down to the park like i want to go and play and everything but then like the football team would just like jump me and take my shoes and my clothes and stuff like that's like it was the football they were like in in their uniform and shit you know like they weren't like trying to nonchalantly do this shit like the football team did it i don't know uh so it was like it was it was fucking it was drastic dude it was bro it was, I had to come to, like, I had to make a decision. Every time I fucking stepped out there, I was getting hurt. And then there was options for me, though.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Like, there was a couple people, or else I would hurt someone else. That's the only way, like, I'll be rolling with this new crew. Here's some knives and shit. Hey, let's go fucking take these bikes and shit. I'm like, oh, this feels better. All right, so I'm going to rob this dude with y'all and take his bike and shit so that's cool i'm like do i have to so if i step out this fucking house i need to either someone's getting hurt i need to fucking stab somebody or or i need to be the hardest motherfucker out here
Starting point is 00:42:39 to prove myself over and over again or else i can't come out the house you know what i mean and i was thinking i was thinking about it like what the fuck like am i just gonna be like a video game nerd like i want to go outside like i want to play sports and shit you know i want to do things i didn't want to stay in the house and it dawned on me i was like i just gotta start clowning motherfuckers make jokes and wow stab them lyrically bro yeah and so you know i was just joking on people started rapping and then i was like good at it getting into battles who were your influences who were you listening to goody mob yeah like a lot a lot of minneapolis rap was doing like this emo shit and like doing like very like backpack like uh really conscious rap and
Starting point is 00:43:23 shit and i was like listening to like ludicrous and fucking goody mob and fucking you know a million a million motherfuckers but more more like southern rap actually okay yeah so then when you start more the energy that i was feeling i was i was mad it was it was dirty it was aggressive yeah you know and i that that was my shit you like trick daddy i love trick that trick daddy but i liked him a long time ago a long long time ago i wish my manager was here i think i might have a song with him see the trick daddy or um someone else i don't know i have a song with someone like that who's in the dude spinning around your hairs man like a helicopter north carolina is that trick daddy I don't know I got some cool features look it up that follow me uh fucking prof Gumpo at Twitter 40 minutes in he promotes um yeah I
Starting point is 00:44:15 know you want to follow me now follow me now motherfucker what the fuck we're talking about we were talking about your early days so that's how you the way I would use humor at this time you burned my house down my dad was fucking dead and I was just fucking angry and I loved art dude I was tagging
Starting point is 00:44:36 I did a lot of crimes and you know went to jail you know got caught what's the first time you went to jail for what graffiti you got the rest of the story's fucking nuts yeah i was i was i was doing graffiti dude and then the police came this is my first experience with police in minneapolis 15 16 is this is that this then this is after your house after the death yeah after the house burned down but right your dad's I'm not talking to him.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And dude, you know, cop car pulls up. We're running. We're hiding. It's me and my dude, and we're hiding behind a... down the alley behind a garage, and I hear the cop coming. They were chasing us, but he didn't know we were there. He hears footsteps.
Starting point is 00:45:22 He's saying, like, this dude's scary. He's not like a's saying, like, this dude's scary. He's not, like, apprehending a suspect that, you know. I'm like, this was, like, I vandalized something, and it was property damage. I was like, this is, like, he's going to fucking kill me. He said that. And he started pissing. I was on this side of the wall.
Starting point is 00:45:39 What? And he was on this side of the wall. And he started pissing right there. And while he was saying how he was going to fucking kill me his piss is like coming on me like it's coming on there on you and I was like
Starting point is 00:45:53 and my guy was right there and the piss was going over my feet and he saw it and he was like I ain't getting pissed on and he just jumped up jackrabbit wow just jumping over fences lights go on. And then the fucking chase is on. And then I'm like, all right, I'm right behind you.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And there's multiple squad cars or whatever. And we're running as fast as we possibly can. And I was fast as fuck. I was varsity track if I wanted to freshman year. I was skinny as hell. I was dipping. And this dude was dipping too. But when you're running as fast as you can one six inch curb does stuff and he fucking fell down i adjusted and i looked back
Starting point is 00:46:33 and he was just they just fucking fucked him up fucked him up and then so i'm looking back i'm terrified now i'm like these dudes will fucking kill me. And then I run back to the house we were all bombing out of. We had a crew and we were staying up at, you know, it was 5 a.m. or whatever. And we'd go out and just destroy Lake Street. And there was we can't we went out in teams like we were thorough about our shit. And then the other team wasn't there yet, you know, and they didn't know what's happening. We're meeting back at the house. The other team that was out, you know, bombing.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And then, so I'm just hiding there. And then they come back and I get back and I'm like, yo, trying to wash my hands. I'm like, they fucking, they got, they got. But you made it. They got Tim. You got back. Oh, oh, oh. Did I make it?
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yeah, you made it back. So I'm like, oh, they got us. I'm like, they're coming or whatever. They whooped the shit out of him, beat him, beat him, forced a confession. Where are you staying at right now? No. Yeah. coming or whatever they whooped the shit out of him beat him beat him forced to confession where you staying at right now no yeah and so uh the brother one of the guys who was with me uh the brother of the guy staying there another dude kind of looks like me police at the door and i'm at the basement the police are here go down and i hear right above at the door he goes well opens the
Starting point is 00:47:40 door well wow tidal wave whoop the shit out of him. Come in the house. Flip him over. Flip all the fucking. They destroy the whole house. Beat the shit out of him because he kind of looked like me or something. I think it might be you. It just might be. Oh, I'm hearing disaster upstairs.
Starting point is 00:47:56 I'm like, oh, shit. So I'm going out the basement and then I go out the side door. Run out the side door. Doom. Light goes on again. Oh, shit. Here we go again. And then they chase me again i'm in another foot chase and i i take them to this train tracks over the mississippi river that are falling apart and that like closed um like the wood is like
Starting point is 00:48:18 fucked up and i'm like and it's 300 feet above the river deadly and i'm like i'm gonna go run across that you know because they're gonna fucking kill me yeah minneapolis police bro there's some read look it up they're fucked it up yeah yeah so you know i knew this shit early that it was like fuck 12 you know the mini especially minneapolis so yeah then i yeah that's one of the stories then i walk all the way from saint paul minnesota all the way to fucking southwest Minneapolis. And like just getting up Franklin, hood-ass street, just getting in fights with bums. Wait, when did they get you? I turned myself in because they took a dude who looked like me.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Oh, they did? Yeah. So I talked to my mom. She's like, I'll walk him to jail with you. And I was like, all right. So, you know, she was by my side, and we went downtown. I turned myself in. They kept him.
Starting point is 00:49:15 They did anyway? Oh, yeah. They're like, we ain't letting him go. I'll walk him. So I was like, oh, shit. All he did was answer the door. Yeah. Well, no, he was guilty. Well, that night. That Well, no, he was doing other shit that night, too.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Yeah, and then I went to church the next morning. Did you? Yeah. Are you a church guy? No. That day you were, though, huh? Well, I just wanted to, like, you know, if you murder someone, the next day you just stick to your schedule. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:45 But, yeah, I wasn't, I mean, once I saw my dad, who was a preacher, pastor, like went everybody over and everybody being like, oh, you're the best. Like anybody who acts holier than thou or preaches at anybody and says, I got to, like that they got the angels on their side. I don't know. I 100% agree. Suspect. Way suspect. No, no. the angels on their side i i 100 agree suspect not let's take a quick break and tell you about our next sponsor ritual we deserve to know what we're putting in our bodies and why especially
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Starting point is 00:53:36 You witnessed them. Yeah. Which one do you want? Any of them. All of them. There's a lot of shootings in Potterhorn. There's a lot of them. My favorite. But were you part of a gang? them there's a lot of shootings in potterhorn and there's a lot of them my favorite
Starting point is 00:53:45 but were you part of my favorite gang no not i mean i was i was part of like a street gang for a while robbing people for a while but not no no it was cambodian bloods no it was all there was no white gang like i needed to join a black gang that's kind of scary yeah so yeah i was doing scary shit for a while but i was like let me just be the comedian class clown shit. I was a fucking clown in high school. That's what Chappelle talks about is like if you see a white guy rolling with a black crew, that's the scariest motherfucker because whatever he did to win over that crew is fucking crazy. I knew that's what I had to do. That's why I was like, I'm not going to be that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:22 No, I'm not that dude. I'm not that dude. I didn't want to kill anybody. I don't want to kill anybody, dude. So my favorite murder. Karen Kilgare. We'll fucking go. Let me tell you about my favorite murder.
Starting point is 00:54:38 My favorite one, fucking outrageous. Southside, Potterhorn shit. I'm coming. I'm on a school bus i got my book bag my sister's with me we're getting dropped off it's like 3 p.m and we're you know riding up on my stop middle of the day yeah yeah and the bus driver's like, comes to a stop, just opens up the door. What the fuck? You letting the bullets in?
Starting point is 00:55:09 We get up, we're like, we're getting off here? I mean, it was happening while we were pulling off, but we got out, and there's people just, they were dying. Like the neighbor, yeah, there was like three or four of them drive by. Holy shit. Bus driver, bus driver was like, fuck this. This is stop, man. So, yeah, so the neighbors were out. Mr. Leah Scully, a neighbor of a kid, mother of a kid that I went to school with,
Starting point is 00:55:40 she's like trying to save one. She's screaming, trying to perform this over here. And then, you know, they were running. So one's underneath the clothes lines in the backyard of another place one's just right on the corner with just fucking real life blood everywhere you're seeing that i just step right out out into that fuck you know that's your neighbor at your neighborhood that's my block god damn yeah yeah so we we stayed around and at this you know at this age it was so stupid can i ask you this is that was that your first time seeing a dead body that that time uh i don't remember i don't remember my first dead body
Starting point is 00:56:19 i mean that's early in your life yeah i think i think that could be it yeah yeah and you're not just seeing one there's three fuck triple homicide I mean, that's early in your life right there. I think that could be it. Yeah. Yeah. And you're not just seeing one. There's three. Fuck. Triple homicide. They all got it. And so we stayed there.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And at the time, I remember being like, I wasn't, I didn't know the value of life and shit. I'm looking at movies and I'm trying to be tough too in that neighborhood. So I'm like, I can't wait to brag to my friends that I just saw three dudes die. That's how I was thinking back then. You know, I look back now, I'm like i can't wait to brag to my friends that i just saw three dudes die that's how i was thinking back then like you know i look back now i'm like that fucked me up you know if i saw that now i'd be like fucked up yeah hell yeah three humans really fucked up in front of you yeah but i was a child man i wasn't developed and so i stood around there like i'm gonna stay here i'm gonna take a step back just watch it all and then when the news comes they're gonna to interview me. I'm going to be here for the interview.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I'm going to be on TV. So I did that. And did you get the interview? They interviewed me. They really did? Yeah. Some white kid being like, hey, I saw this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Me and my sister. I was like, let's just stick right here. We don't need to go home right now. Let's just watch this get cleaned up. And then when the news crew gets here, let's get on TV. God damn, dude. Yeah, I mean. What else have you seen?
Starting point is 00:57:32 One night my house got shot the fuck up. The front of my house. Uzi or something. We were just sitting in a house. I was upstairs in it. Wrong house. I don't know. It's not like this little fucking white family.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Someone just shot up a house while I was in it. Jesus Christ. Like 30 fucking bullets. What else have you seen? You've seen murders. What other kind? I haven't seen any. Well, I've seen some stabbings. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah, street fights and shit like that. What's the craziest thing you've seen in rap on the road out there? I imagine your fans are quite different from my fans. Look, we have a lot of the same fans, which first of all blew me away. So I know you got good fans. I know you got good fans. They're good. They are.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But I'll bet you've seen some shit out there. One of the craziest most fucked up wild moments i've ever had in rap where you look around and you're like look at this shit like it it was it was a show um i was i was younger drinking at the dinky towner it was a famous little really shitty club that i was rapping at 16 17 would let me drink i was a fucking man you know um but this was probably early 20s it was a we did a uh halloween show and bring your costumes so everybody's dressed up to the tea there's a costume competition with like a grand prize and uh this is when you know everybody knew my crew was fighting and shit. And we did the show.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And then my man Roswell, like he does, he just started the fight somewhere. I don't remember how it started, but it turned into just some, the show was over, bar closed. We were in the streets. Everybody's smoking, drinking straight West Coast. And pow, just the best, fight start pops off out of nowhere everybody's in like grover costumes and like mammograms and like one dude's dressed as like a tennis player with like and everybody's bombing everybody's bombing people got rackets there was a there was a dude who was dressed as a football player just knocking motherfuckers out and it was a it was it was a it was a it was like a fucking irish fucking it was like uh some lines of like 20 people versus 20 people like marching at each
Starting point is 00:59:53 other and like there's one you're up there rapping while it's happening no this is outside it's over i'm in it i'm in it and you know um there's just you look around and you're like this this person's dressed this dude this dude is knocking this motherfucker out and he's got like titties and like and like he's dressed in drag and shit you know what i mean and and then there's this one one moment when you know i'm just no one knows what's going on or why anybody's getting fighting it's just someone hit my friend now i gotta hit you and then and then and then you don't know remember one time i turned around and i'm about to i hit this dude he he's like, prof, it's me. And I'm like, oh, you're on our side?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah, you don't even know. And then the seas parted. And then there's this huge man looking at me. I'm like 6'1". He's like 6'7". And he's like, yup, me and you. And I'm like, okay. I would rather sneak up and knocked out this guy
Starting point is 01:00:46 or whatever but it was just like just me and him and i'm like i don't he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna fuck me up but i was like whatever i'm like walking at him and then fucking out of nowhere this tennis player my my homie fucking jump kicks him in the chest and he flies into a car and then i love it yeah yeah so that was one of my favorite fucking andre agassi coming out drop kicking this month yeah and then my homie scotchy went to his trunk and he gets his real sword like this dude is like a sword who carries a sword in their trunk dude he does it's he he developed a reputation for this fucking sword in the neighborhood and listen i would say if you did that once you got the reputation like this motherfucker might pull a sword. All you do is one. He did that
Starting point is 01:01:26 over and over. There's a lot of stories about how he used a sword. Somebody get out of traffic and just pop the trunk and pull a sword. I'm like, no fucking sword, bro. Like, he's huge. He's huge. I don't know. He was knocking out a lot of people. A sword! Lots of blood in the streets and then we fucking won. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And then, like, everybody's, like, knocked out and we just walked away. It was crazy. But then one of my homies went back to, like, trying to, like, spit on them and then they all, like, woke up and then we fucking won it was awesome and then like everybody's like knocked out and we just walked away it was crazy but then one of my homies went back to like trying to like spit on him and then they all like woke up and then they just beat him up i'm like why'd you go back i was already like let's go and then he was like he went back and then they all woke up and beat beat his ass but um i want to talk about you also obviously we, we had our situation here with the riots and everything. And you lived, what you said, that was your block? Yeah. Where you lived right around the corner from the epicenter of everything?
Starting point is 01:02:14 I was, there was, you know, I moved from that house in the meantime. So I could tell you, I didn't want to say anything about it, but it was – there's only – there's a huge kind of commercial area. You don't want to say anything about it. No, I'm out of there. I'm out of there. There's this huge commercial area. My house is right on the corner of it. And so it was – I lived right next to the third precinct in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 01:02:36 There's maybe – considering how the blocks move around it, there's 10 houses closer to it. And I'm right there in the front yard. So people started looting and shit. i'm like the first residential block and all the blocks started just filling up with cars like you know the protests were real and the people who were there to do that were doing good work and then they figured out all right this is the complete pandemonium complete pandemonium what else you want to do you are you a bank robber there's a bank right there now's the time there's a bank right across from my house like grab your dynamite let's rob this fucking bank you know so everybody was doing everything so there was a moment where it was like
Starting point is 01:03:17 pretty crazy so i had all my friends over we're all strapped we're just in the front yard drinking and it turns out you know it was pretty obvious right away. No one was fucking with residential shit. Even if, you know, you were there for like some fuck shit. No one was touching houses. That's the same thing actually here. Now that you say that it was all businesses and shit up this boulevard and stuff. Yeah. So that was cool.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So, you know, I'm just fucking got a gun in my lap and I'm just watching it with my neighbors drink a beer. And, you know, people are coming back from Target. They have just full shopping carts, full conveyor belt, you know, double takes. I'm just, I'm filming people. I got footage of people just filling up their trunks, going on another trip. I'm like, what'd you get?
Starting point is 01:03:55 You know? Oh man, you know, I was, I was out for the PS4, but I got, you know, all I got was this Nintendo. I'm like, all right. You know, it was, it was cool. But then, you know, then everything caught on fire and it was, it was,
Starting point is 01:04:08 uh, one of those moments, you know, one after one of those first nights, I was like, newborn baby, just out at the hospital, all this COVID shit.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Um, and they're starting to get sleep in there. I'm, I'm, I'm dozing off in some room, you know, still trying to stay awake through all this. And then my friend calls me, what are you doing? Where are you at? And I'm like, in there. I'm dozing off in some room, you know, still trying to stay awake through all this. And then my friend calls me,
Starting point is 01:04:27 what are you doing? Where are you at? I'm like, I'm at my house. He's like, the fire is jumping blocks, dude. It's,
Starting point is 01:04:32 it's, it's on your block, you know? Whoa, I think it's your block. And I'm like, what? And I look out the front window.
Starting point is 01:04:40 And like I said, that familiar, just sinking feeling like fight or flight. Everything comes down to one pivotal fucked up moment that there's a feeling. I open up the window and I took video of it. And I'm like, I look up at this flame. It's not, it hasn't crossed my block, but it's right behind the house. Like whatever's in front of me.
Starting point is 01:05:01 700 foot flame in the fucking air. And I'm like, all right all right you know turn off the turn on the lights you know get up say my first get up yeah you know i'm not i'm not an expert on like 700 foot flames but i'm like i don't know if we got like three minutes or if we're safe or what the fuck the wind is gonna do like you know get up baby's crying i'm like covid i thought that was it and now you know this george floyd shit baby's crying pack everything what what what what what's the most important shit you know growing up i thought i was like grab the fucking jewel like the jewelry or electronics i was like get the diapers get the
Starting point is 01:05:42 fucking baby baby yeah and then i was like I don't give a fuck about anything else and um it was this huge apartment complex that was being built um lower income I think I don't know if it was good shit for the hood or the community or whatever but it was enormous um it was seven eight stories the whole fucking thing you know my room my house was filling up with smoke it was hot man filling up with smoke yeah no the house right next to me was melted and had to be uh taken down holy shit melted yeah it was it was over um and and um yeah i i took footage of it we left i came back to you know called her dad or something like where where we're gonna go
Starting point is 01:06:26 at 4 a.m or 3 a.m or whatever and um i come back and they stayed out there i wanted to come back and like just i just felt like i had to be there to protect my house or just i just felt like i had to be there you know and my house was doing good there i i had you know protesters and all my homies they would come there for food or if they got fucking maced or whatever, they could be in my backyard with the hose. And I saw, every once in a while, I'll just dip out. All I had to do was walk 50 feet out and I was in the middle of protests. And I saw the third precinct go down. It's on my IG, ProfGompo.
Starting point is 01:07:03 So you can see that. And it's me, footage, the fireworks going off across the third precinct i don't know when in history of america that the people have overwhelmed the police department or the capital yeah i mean if i yeah jesus christ it was wild i don't think i think 1776 i think it might have been 1776 yeah so people were posting that like uh that that photo of that iconic photo of this huge thing on fire like you know before it fell down and they're like hell yeah and i'm like oh that feels different for me i was like oh they're like let's go and i was like, oh. This is not supportive. They're like, let's go. And I was like, oh. I had to leave.
Starting point is 01:07:49 That scared me. But your house, you made it? I went back the next day, and there was live coals all over my yard still burning. Burning. Like on my yard furniture. And I'm like, oh, wow. So I, you know. Your house made it, but the one next to you melted. Like that, do you understand
Starting point is 01:08:05 how lucky you are actually are to if it melts next to you you're you're next it was hot you're next all my neighbors were leaving at the same time we're you know getting in the cars and shit it was wild man yeah it was a wild summer man i've been living my life like slowly progressing i'm like an underground rapper and i've never taken a step back and i'm like i was doing better and better and i just thought that like if you work hard that's how life is gonna be but man you know some fucked up shit could happen to you 10 years from now life doesn't give a fuck yeah exactly yeah it doesn't matter you i mean who knows we might go through another lockdown, maybe this year, maybe 10 years. Who knows? We don't know. That's why you have to fucking do it for yourself.
Starting point is 01:08:51 You get one shot at this fucking thing here. Yeah. Here. You know? And that's, you know, just keep it with the people you love in person. Like, I got some shit fucking basically got canceled for some, I don't want to get in the weeds or whatever. But, and I tried, you know, what I want to do is be a better person. I desperately want equality for everybody, you know, but things are so confusing and nuanced and shit. You know, just like those riots, like there's people there for everything.
Starting point is 01:09:17 So, you know, under the guise of being woke or not woke or mega or not, like it's really confusing. All I know for sure is like the people i see in real life again i can't wait to tell them i love them yeah and uh just trying to have shared experiences in real life again i think the huge problem was like covid really fucking made people angry and then fucking yeah george floyd was fucked up and it was a perfect storm i think we need some play basketball with people who look different from us and just share an experience again recognize some humanity a little bit like you know well that's why i'm excited to get back out on the road because i really feel like music comedy sports brings everybody together and and for a good cause if i'm rooting the same team on or if i'm
Starting point is 01:09:59 at a prof show and we all get love him feeling good yeah it doesn't matter about racing in person you know none of it yes we're here for a common goal and and basically it's to have fun and laugh and enjoy ourselves yeah man um have you ever played the armory in minneapolis i went there um i when i did uh the house of comedy what was it 2019 i went and saw uh wu-tang we had the x games in town i played the x games you did the one that one i don't know like two years ago they held like three in a row so i don't know if it was the same one um well a buddy that uh was a fan of the show was a engineer so he was building all the ramps and shit and he's like come on so he gave me all the back you know tour for that and
Starting point is 01:10:40 then i went and that night and saw wu-tang do uh uh the show at the armory and i had never been there before that was fucking great that's where i think that's where the fucking lakers played it's an old oh really the mini minnesota lakers played there no shit and it was uh just closed for like 40 years oh and just renovated it and like put together i loved it oh okay so that's recent then they did that. Okay. That's a dope spot. So now you're getting back out on the road too or what? Yeah, I'm going to probably announce a tour soon. I'll probably be touring this winter a lot. You just did Red Rock?
Starting point is 01:11:15 I've done that. You've done that. I just did it. But I'm going to do Fiddler's something. Some big ass. It's going to be with like DaBaby the baby jack harlow and like sweden shit like some radio show there um that's coming up um so yeah i've sold out shows and stuff like yeah i've been real dude yo i have i've been doing really good too this year so you know all that
Starting point is 01:11:38 horrible shit has been it's been a fucking roller coaster yeah i mean i'm doing i'm like i got i got like 26 triple a batteries in my drawer i'm doing fine you know i mean i got like i got like kitchen shears and shit you know what i mean like bro you're just like me i grew up with very little like yeah i remember when i went to get a car the guy's like we got this the the visors like i go bro you're upselling the wrong motherfucker i didn't have air condition all right like that is my he's like well that's standard now i'm like great then we're i'm good i don't need anything else i don't need cruise i don't need all this shit i drive the fucking car yeah i'm the same way i'm like i got fresh socks so i was always embarrassed no no i think if you have like 20 some triple a batteries you're upper middle class yeah you're set yeah i always had holes in my socks i still do and i was
Starting point is 01:12:26 embarrassed you know and i would wear two pair so it covered a hole but then it would look like that one pair had a weak spot in it you know what i mean but i didn't care and then now i just make sure it's one thing i promised myself when because i've been i've been i've been on my own since 16 one thing i promised myself when i got older is I was always going to have motherfucking clean and fresh socks. Nothing feels good like a good fresh pair of socks on your feet. I fuck with that really heavy, dude. Really heavy. I'm for real on that.
Starting point is 01:12:54 I wear the same shit over and over and over again. I'm 90% hoodies and sweatshirts and t-shirts. But there's nothing like putting your feet in a new pair. I once heard that Foo Fighters had on their rider fresh socks. Fresh socks. Every show. That's not just them, bro. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:13:09 I would say 50% of all artists have fresh socks or fresh t-shirts on their show. Yeah, I don't have t-shirts, but I love putting my feet in fresh socks and going on stage. It feels good. It feels good. Yeah, I was number three billboard charts as an independent artist. I just wanted to let you know that. billboard charts as an independent artist i just want to let you know let them all know man i know i'm no one that's hitting i know what i'm doing well when next door i hear like the production team laughing and shit thanks guys um so what's next for you you're gonna
Starting point is 01:13:41 get out on the road a little bit of touring i fucking destroy. Dude, there's a lot of things I can't say, but I am lined the fuck up. Good. I'm lined up. Good for you, dude. Yeah. Let me ask you this. How's your mom? Is your son your mom's first grandchild, or do your sisters have kids?
Starting point is 01:13:56 My sisters are older, you know what I mean? So they got kids and shit. So how's your mom love you having a son? Like her only son has a son. How's she about that? She's fucking about that. She is, huh? She's so good she's yeah she's the best with them and she's still local and stuff to help you and see the kids and all that stuff yeah yeah she's a teacher she right she's she's perfect
Starting point is 01:14:15 yeah perfect yeah and you said she remarried what what was your do you consider him a stepfather is he your mom's second husband? I love him. Love you, Mom. How long has he been with your mom? A long time. All right. So he's good to your mom.
Starting point is 01:14:37 He's good to my mom. That's all that matters. That's all that fucking matters. He's good to your mom. Thank you. That's well put. It is all that matters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 That this guy is good to your mom. You already had your dad. He was 20 when you died. And they're doing good. So you. That's well put. It is all that matters. Yeah. That this guy is good to your mom. You already had your dad. He was 20 when you died. And they're doing good. They're doing good again. So you don't need that. There's some times I hated him and shit, but I'll give him a hug right now. Yeah. And what does your mom think of your career?
Starting point is 01:14:55 Like, does she come see your shows and shit? Every once in a while, you know. Does she bump your shit? No. No? I mean, I have a huge variety of songs, right? I have a lot of songs she doesn't like you know i mean i got some fucking i got some fucked up shit but then i got really really good i have
Starting point is 01:15:11 an extreme variety of songs look up flower boy live on on youtube and you'll watch me cry like a little bitch and it's super emotional very good writing but then you look up squad goals and i'm like guys oh well you know i'm just like the one we you know and I'm like Guns, Holes, Well That's the one we use When someone comes up to me and they're like Oh I heard two songs of yours I'm like alright who am I to you then What two songs have you heard I cover a wide fucking gambit of shit
Starting point is 01:15:36 I don't think anybody has range like I do to tell you the truth in the game Does your stepfather come see your shows? No I don't think he does That'd be hilarious if he's been to every one of them, you don't even know it. He's just in the back.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Binoculars. Yeah. Um, yeah. So what are your goals as a father? I want to know what your, uh, goals are.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Cause you got a lot of shit to, to break. You got to break that cycle. I'm not even worried about that. No, I'm not. Yeah. I'm really,
Starting point is 01:16:03 to tell the truth, like satisfied with who i am right now like yeah you know i i greet people with respect and i like i walk with confidence like i'm the shit um and i fucking love my my little dude and um i mean so far i've been there from him it's been covid and shit i'm gonna go on the road that's gonna suck that's gonna be new um but i know i'm gonna fucking run laps around my pops oh yeah you know what i mean unless i develop some crazy late stage mental illness and start fucking kicking the shit out of them or whatever you know but i got a dog for that you know what i mean
Starting point is 01:16:34 edit that you better edit that no no no no keep that keep that i'll let you that's like my number one joke my fans know i'm i love my dog his name His name is Pilot. We got a dog merch line out. All right. From the guy who didn't want to promote shit. I got too much. Whatever. Have it come up naturally. I love it, dude.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Thanks. Hey, I don't know if we're wrapping this up. I don't know what time it is, but I just want to say thanks for having me, man. Please. You're very likable, dude. Same. I'm glad we connected. Yeah, I'm going to be hitting you up in Minneapolis man. Please. You're a very likable dude. Same. I'm glad we connected. Yeah, I'm going to be hitting you up in Minneapolis.
Starting point is 01:17:08 We'll go out tonight. Let's go out. Let me take you out in L.A. tonight. I want to get blackout drunk and like just – so you can think of me completely different than you do now. Great. I'm going to ruin all the goodwill I've built with you. That's fine. We'll let everybody know.
Starting point is 01:17:20 We'll put that on the IG story after, you know. Just the way you smile man you got anybody ever tell you look like a look you got a touch of like white damon wayans in you a little bit when you smile i've heard eric andre um you just hit me when you smile i get that you know yeah i get that all right i told you uh before we recorded i ask everybody's uh yeah we'll wrap up so we can go hang out i ask everybody their first time here advice they give i never thought i don't to the 60 i didn't want you to to your 16 year old self now after what we talked about because you said your dad burned the house down at 15 this is a pivotal age for
Starting point is 01:18:02 you stop talking to him oh so at 16 what are you going to tell that i'm saying prof now is going back to 16 year old prof and saying yo i got some fucking advice for you what is that what are you telling yourself at that age it's this isn't funny but it doesn't have to be it's going to be worth it it'll be worth it hang in there hang in there buddy hey hang in there dog you'll get there it'll be worth it that's what we say all the time like 90 of this shit is hanging in there sticking around staying in the fucking game it's worth it dude thank you so much man this is fucking great um all right now since you didn't promote anything please plug anything you'd like. No. Oh, man. This has been great.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Thank you very much. Appreciate you, dog. This has been great. As always, RyanSickler.com, Ryan Sickler on all social media. We'll talk to you you next time.

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