The HoneyDew with Ryan Sickler - Trevor Wallace - Alpha

Episode Date: April 12, 2021

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I love you all. It is a pleasure to introduce this guest. First time on the Honeydew here. I'm very excited to have him here. Trevor Wallace, everybody. Welcome to the Honeydew. Thank you, man. It's an honor to be here as a fellow Santa Monica resident myself.

I love that. You used to be down the street. Yeah, it was great. I just bird speedered, hammered. I don't know if that's a great combo down the street. Yeah, it was great. I just bird-scooter, hammered. I don't know if that's a great combo, but we'd be out here doing it. Yeah, something about the air out here is great, but it's so far from everything. So just packed up my ego and headed to the valley. I went the other way.

I was Sherman Oaks forever and came to the west side. Yeah, we went opposite ways. Dang. So you're the smarter man in this. I mean, I like the valley, though. People love the shit on it. I like the valley. It's cool.

Everything you need is in the valley. Yeah. There's parking. Especially now. That traffic is no problem. Yeah, and they got everything. It's just a bunch of sushi places and hookah shops. Yeah.

So whatever you need, they got it. Well, before we get into what we're going to talk about today, plug everything and anything you'd like. Sweet. I also have a podcast called Stiff Socks. It comes out every Wednesday. Just me and my friend Michael Blaustein just riffing back. Another comedian from New York. Good times.

Just shooting the shit. That's every Wednesday. So it's a good time. Check that out on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, all that stuff. But yeah, other than that that the videos i put out usually i do mondays you so you do drop them on a regular uh i try to do one a week which um your videos are so like i i'm sure you watch his videos if you don't it's the funniest fucking shit i sit and watch your shit over and over and hell yeah it's funny because you i've been in

comedy so long and i had never met you yeah and then I met you on – we did Kill Tony together. Kill Tony together. And I'd finally been like, damn. And I haven't seen you again since. I don't think I've seen you again since. I don't know how that happens that we all don't run in the same circle at some point, but everyone's so busy. Yeah, I think – well, that was probably about a year ago to be honest. It was right before the bid hit.

But I knew of you and i and i should know and you were such a nice guy on kill tony and i was like i thought you were gonna be like more like just throwing out jabs on because i remember like you're supposed to roast people on kill tony and then i said something that was like kind of like not mean but like a jab at this guy and everyone's like yeah fuck that guy and then you were all nice to him i was like oh shit am i supposed to be nice i did it wrong oh but i didn't know i was like i thought i was on kind tony yeah well i didn't know what was going on boy it's so funny with that show tony says the boundary is so clean he's like it's like very clear he's like if you don't have anything to say just sit there and

shut up yeah and and the whole time okay yeah i felt like i was like in class like with a joke to like say yeah and then i was like you know what if i just shut up and never said it but you know i didn't want to overstep tony's boundaries you know but yeah that was that was neat that was awesome i was like the first time i mean that's like one of those marquees that like i've been on like some comedy marquees but seen the one on the comedy store marquee man i was like same that's the first time i'd ever been on there really yeah that was fucking i loved it that That was nuts. That was good. Yeah. Thank you, Tony Hinchcliffe. Yeah. Thank you.

No, I love that show. I used to, when I had a day job, I used to just watch Kill Tony on Tuesdays, like the highlights of it, and just see what of my friends ate shit the night before. That was my guilty pleasure. Oh, so some of your friends would actually made it up and performed on it? Oh, yeah. I mean, that was like Monday nights were just like, if you weren't doing, I used to go to the spot in West LA for like, that was my Monday nights where just like if you weren't doing – I used to go to the spot in like West LA for like –

that was my mic spot, the improv space. But everybody else would be like going to Potluck. I don't kill but Potluck. Don't kill Tony. So the next day, if I wasn't at the store, I'd see like who got up. And then you just like sit there and like pettily like watch your friends eat shit. And you're like, oh, yes. I don't know.

That's just some petty shit I used to like to do. But that's kind of like this industry where you're just like like you'll pass them to the back and give them a hug then like right after if they tripped you're like good yeah so uh we met on that and uh i forget where we're going with this well i wanted to have you on because i don't know much about you i mean i i we were just talking about how your videos you're so out there, and I'm more reserved too. And you're like, yeah, I'm not. People think that's who you are in person when they meet, and you're like, oh, I thought you'd be this crazy fucking alter ego and shit. I'm more so startled when literally walking across the street just when I parked.

These two guys were in a Prius, which is not like a car you think guys would be yelling at you. But it's two dudes who are just the most Santa Monica people monica people ever just curly hair thick glasses 25 years old problem they're like dude you make the youtube videos and i'm just like yeah and then they're just like all right and i was like cool and then that was our separate way i think they wanted more of like uh confetti i know i never know what this vlog camera is see me outside they're like the honey dude i'm like what am i supposed to yell to you when you're passing by yeah yeah you know just plug your own podcast so yeah uh i'm pretty i wouldn't say i'm like uh god i can't even think what is the damn word right now um it's that covid brain bro that's that covid brain you know no i do feel like i've

gotten dumber with the pandemic. Outgoing? You're not outgoing? Or you're not? Introverted is what I was looking for. Oh, you are introverted. I feel like I'm more on the introverted side. But how I perceive myself online is very out there, extrovert.

I believe that word is. Yeah, if you listen to my podcast, I don't know a lot of words. But yeah, so I just feel like what I put out there is very big and boastful. And then in real life, I'm just like you were not saying saying it's like i don't mind eating at alone at a restaurant yeah every meal like i'd rather sit back in the corner yeah i'd rather yeah there's nothing all right so where you you're from ventura county yeah camarillo if it's a city out there out in county yeah yeah the outlets yeah that's outlets and we said well it was hornblowers back in the day but what is it actually called now this is ventura harbor county club that's outlets and we said well it was hornblowers back in the day but what is it actually called now it's been to our harbor comedy club that's a good little spot i always thought

it was a great spot that's uh where i started when i was 17 i was uh they had like a comedy class there and the guy randy lubis he's a comedy og he's been running that club for like nine years i think he just left but uh yeah that's why i started i was doing comedy there and but what was life like growing up and for you up there? It was a lot of the outlets. We would just go. We'd take our allowance money, whatever that was, like $20 for a month, and then just go to the outlets and either buy like a $9 pretzel for no fucking reason or just like buy a stupid shirt with like a World Industries logo on it and just be stoked on that. What do your parents do?

My dad's retired my mom is uh in marketing and she does like freelance writing for like food stuff what does your dad do he was in sales are they all from california too my dad's from ohio my mom's from northern california okay so are you an only child i have an older sister you do she lives in new york now okay but i was born in uh illinois i was there for two years. And my mom's like, it's fucking cold. It's not worth it. Let's get back out of there.

And then straight back to California. So I was in Illinois for like two years. Okay. Yeah. But we grew up pretty close to the ocean. So it was like 15, 20 minutes. So I spent a lot of time at the beach. A lot of car rides with a little bit of the marijuana.

You got in that early? Yeah. How old were you when you first got high freshman in high school yeah which uh were you a good student no i didn't pick up my grades until like my like my like end of sophomore year my sister got into college and she took me to a party uh up at cal poly in san luis obispo when i was like a sophomore or junior and i was like oh this is what college could be like she took me to a party uh up at cal poly in san luis obispo when i was like a sophomore or junior and i was like oh this is what college could be like she took me to a college party and i was like this is fucking great that's what made you straight a hundred percent i had zero other priorities i saw that and i was like oh the movies are real and obviously this was a party school so it was a little more fabricated but it was just like we went from one party to another party and i was just hammered i'm just having the time of my life i want to fuck up i better get my shit together exactly yeah i need to stop fucking up so i can go fuck

up on a higher professional level so that's essentially what i did and uh got my shit together my sophomore and like junior year and then got into uh san jose state up in the bay area i went there for film and uh theater so you said growing up you just get bullied and teased a lot because you had red hair yeah well diet no this is it kind of grew out so this is all natural now but like as a kid it was it was pretty bad it was like uh like was it that that red that shiny red when the sun hits it that bright yeah it was kind of like an auburnish tone which doesn't make things any better because my middle name is auburn nah that's where trevor auburn wallace yeah so and you know it's fucked up it's on my license it says trevor auburn wallace and then hair color says auburn so

dmv is having a fucking field day back there just going in on me just doing the double double you know or they had like a typo and then just worked out i just brown's good enough you know any of that all burn on there it's fancy but it's like not one of those middle names i can go by like if i go by auburn wallace like that just sounds yeah you gotta have a monocle in all times with that butler yeah exactly so uh it was like kind of red it wasn't like a santino type red but it was like uh it definitely in the sunlight had that that beam so in like sixth or seventh grade that south park episode came out talking shit about gingers and it was just a rap after that it was just it's just a rap you know and like anybody so i'm 28 so anybody in that kind of like i guess within like

a you know like 10 year span of that probably watch that episode so when that shit came out it was like it was just a license like shit on oh yeah like my monday was fine tuesday whenever whenever south park came out the next day people walked in and they're like oh shit and there's like three gingers out of school you know i think that was like maximum for our school they're like you got to cut it off here too many gingers you got to send them to a fucking boarding school yeah exactly so uh it was just like i remember walking into school and i hadn't seen the episode and just fingers just pointed at me across the yard oh you hadn't seen it i didn't see the episode i didn't know why this is happening but all it

took was like somebody be like you didn't see fucking south park last night and i was like exactly yeah but like i wasn't like my parents restricted me a good amount growing up so in what ways like they probably wouldn't let me watch south park they'd be like i would have to watch south park at a friend's house or they'd be like why don't you just watch the simpsons it's more so simpsons were okay i love the simpsons yeah they were okay with that yeah- What other restrictions did you have? What would you say? There was a really funny one that was we couldn't have cereal that had over seven grams of sugar in it. I wanted to ask if there was a sugar thing because every time I hear about parents being strict, like sugar is a big part of that.

So we couldn't have cereal that had more than seven grams of sugar in it. So what could you have? Fucking tree bark, just dirt, just nothing. I mean, like realistically, if you go to the- Dirt with milk. Yeah, and like unsweetened almond milk and you're at your capacity but if you go to the grocery store about the milk with sugar yeah exactly but you go to the cereal aisle and you look at what they got i mean what is it there can't be any of you might be able to use regular cheerios regular cheerios

probably honey nut i think just beat the bar. If I had decent grades or something, might get some Honey Nut Cheerios. So you get some fucking Frankenberry. It's like cocaine for your ass. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the thing. Just bouncing off the walls at your friend's house. Yeah, so when I would go to my friend's house, they would have the good shit like Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Fruit Loops or just get fucking wild with Reese's Puffs, and then

I would just be fiending. I'd be like, Miss Edsel, let me get another fucking bowl, you know? And she's like, it's 4 a.m. I'm like, bitch, I don't care. Pour up. I haven't had sugar in nine days. All right? So it made me appreciate that more.

Let's see. That was the biggest one I could remember. Were you a religious family growing up? Were you a churchgoers? Grew up Jewish, actually. OK. So on top of the ginger gene did you go to temple and i did yeah my mom pushed it on me pretty hard and had a bar mitzvah

everything you know uh so looking back on it there's like a lot of stuff dad's not jewish or dad's dad's not jewish this is what i've learned about i didn't know i i know you're not jewish unless your mom's jewish yeah but which is wild because it is right like what the fuck does the dad's jew uh judaism just gets discredited exactly and also like i want to just have a sit down my dad and be like what was it why did you how why'd you switch over was it that good was the fucking bed that good you know to switch from christianity to judaism like that yeah i and my mom said there was like maybe like an hour's worth of hesitation like hey you gotta switch and he's like all right mowed the lawn

game bag he's like fuck it we'll do it you know so it's got to be some better incentives in there for that but um so i grew up jewish my mom kind of pushed it on me hard uh i think she just that's how she was raised so she didn't want it to like fall through the cracks and she wanted to uh you know be the good mother she's a great mom also too but i think she just wanted to uphold that standard and it kind of just got pushed on me too hard to where i was like i'm good like if i would have found that my own way probably but it was just too too much pressure on me for that and i didn't have enough fucking sugar to get through torah school that shit was so goddamn tiring you just yeah is that nights after like regular school mondays from like 3 to like 6 30 damn so and a half more hours of school i know i hate that

yeah but it wasn't even like school you just like watch like fucking adam sandler tape oh really yeah it was like you just did a bunch of like random aftercare we call that aftercare exactly with yarmulkes yeah yeah that and a little bit a couple shots of some grape welches shooters but other than that it was it was no different than just like a fucking daycare but when you walk so you roll into school the jewish kid with red hair on and everyone just starts going and it was oddly pale well that makes sense with the red hair those are kind of hand in hand so it's just kind of like you look back on it and you're like oh that makes sense why you know i had a personality built up you know i was just getting hit on all these different angles it's like okay ginger jewish white kid dad has a hybrid

for the car like there's not a lot of there's not a lot of alpha pumping out of the wallace family you know you see me and you're like all right this is it's almost like too easy it's like pick a lane you want to talk shit on i got it you know but i like that so because i hung out with a lot of the older kids growing up but i was like the young kid in the older group so like they would talk shit to me but if somebody else talks shit to me they'll like get my back you know so why were you accepted because you could talk back yeah? Yeah, I don't think I minded it. I wasn't trying to fight back what they were saying. I was like, yeah, for sure.

That's who I am. But also, yeah, I think I just never really was phased by the feelings of it, which is great to be in comedy because you kind of need to go numb to some of these feelings at some point. Yeah, no doubt you know yeah push them down that real healthy shit yeah that's what i do numb them all out that's what i do yeah just go we're good all right do you go to therapy or do any therapy uh this is year i've been one i've like put that on like a priority list to like deal with um i

have not done a deal with going yeah but like i i i'm in therapy for trying to go to therapy literally i just don't know how to i mean i'm sure it's as simple as you know just finding out if my insurance takes it but i just i called kaiser permanente once it was one machine to another machine i was like all right this is the reason i need therapy because i can't fucking talk to somebody right now so what do you want to go about i just want to it's hard because like my insecurities are i don't well i don't know this is just what i might think is something they might not have the answer to because my career is heavily based on like perception of the internet how they view me so if it's like if my views are down or videos aren't

hitting like they used to i can't go to a therapist and be like why is my tiktok only getting 500 000 likes when you know and then they're just like i don't know what are these words you're saying to me they're like how's your relationship at home i'm like fuck home okay why am i only getting 2 000 retweets you know so i it's like i need like a millennial therapist that's just like hey views don't matter you. You're making a career out of something you love. Just do that. And I'm like, oh, okay. So I'm just trying to like. So that's where the question is.

What is it about that approval you need? Did you not get approval growing up? Was your dad always busy? Mom always working? Were you a latchkey kid? What does that mean? That means come home from school by yourself, let yourself in. Yeah.

And then your parents come home a few hours later from work or whatever. Yes, that was me. You're a latchkey kid. I think it's just also there's no direction for me. If I had an older brother who did this career route, I'd be like, oh, I can reach out to him or I can talk to him. But I have people in this community of comedy that I can reach out to and be like hey do you ever experience this or you ever have that going on but i never grew up like i feel like i'm kind of on my own team here so i don't really know who to talk to about some of these like insecurities and type things and i have a girlfriend i'll talk to her and i'll be like

something she goes well you're only doing your best and i'm like i get that but like i need an answer down deep down that's like well here's why this video didn't do well, you know. So maybe it's too calculated. Is it really about the videos or is it more about the approval of that video? I think the approval. Because the fucked up part is like every video I make, at some point I like making it, you know, whether it's the writing or the editing or the filming of it. Well, if you make 10,000 videos, one of them mathematically is going to perform the least exactly yeah something's going to be viewed the least right yeah i think about like baseball each

video is a pitch and it's like okay we fucking knocking this out of the park or is this a foul ball into the fucking hot dog stand so you gotta like and i just the weird part of the problem is like i'm a i can't practice what I preach. Like somebody will come to me with video advice and then I'll be like, well, you know, man, just the next one is that much better than my shit like flops. And I'm like, well, what the fuck is happening with me? So I kind of just – yeah, I don't know. But then again, I've never been to a therapist. So I don't know.

I think they get the root of that instead of being like, well, let's talk about Snapchat. They'll be like, well, you feel insecure because X, Y, and Z. And then I'll be like, ah. Yeah, they're really going to dive into some shit. And you're going to be like, fuck. Yeah, yeah. Shit, we're here. Do you go to therapy?

I have a bunch. Yeah. I'm not right now, but I'll be going back soon again. And I've tried different kinds of therapy. I mean, so many therapists. It's dating. It's like dating. Yeah, that's what I've tried different kinds of therapy. I mean, so many therapists. It's dating. It's like dating. Yeah, that's what I've heard. It's like you interview with a bunch of them.

You see who you connect with. And yeah, my girlfriend was going to one for a couple of weeks. And then they said something about her. And then they had beef. And then there's still like 30 minutes left of the of the you know the of the appointment it's like all right who's paying for this it's like you just told me to leave yeah there's 30 minutes left on the table therapy's not cheap so the therapist said leave well they were just like i don't think we're gonna see eye to eye on this and then she's like okay fine and then they like

had a little weird standoff man i had a therapist one time session one i sit down he starts eating while he's talking to me like a sandwich and shit and i'm like what are you doing he's like i'm just having my dinner i go in my session i go no yeah you can't be thinking about problems and a salisbury steak i said i need a therapist that's gonna fucking give me their time and attention undivided attention and then i i went back again and that dude ended up being a great therapist he was like he's like i just called him out sometimes you just gotta fucking tell him like what are you doing i'm in here right now my life is falling apart and you're over there having a turkey and fucking cheese like you wait 50 minutes

oh you went back to the same guy yeah after i told him and then he was dude i'm so glad i did he was great i had an incredible memory he remembered he's like and this is your blue moment i'm like yeah fuck yeah he just didn't remember when the fuck to eat couldn't remember what to eat exactly i'm like could you just wait right yeah i mean if you want to wolf it down i'll sit outside for another five minutes or at least be like i gotta go to the bathroom then just jam it down stomach fucking growling the whole time i'm crying over here. Right. Yeah, that's funny. You're just sobbing up your tears with some Rye Bread.

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it's like a magical it's yeah i mean i low-key got spoiled because that was like maybe the fifth show i ever did was a bringer at oh the santa's improv yeah because when i was at san jose i was doing a little bit of stand-up my like junior year that's when i was like all right i gotta get back into this i just did two years of fucking being an idiot and a friend just drowning my brain cells with four locos and then after that i was like i gotta like okay what do i really want to do after college so my junior year i was doing some stand-up and during one of the open mics outside of the school i met some guy and i told him i was in a fraternity i was like yeah i could probably bring out like 30 or 40 people and the guy goes what

did you say because for a fucking bringer producer he's like i'll give you a fucking three hours if you want i was like no all i got is you're going last yeah yeah everybody's staying through your set right so um and all these guys in the frat were like we have nothing better to do and and they're like frat guys here like two drink minimum they're like oh fucking i hope yeah i'm gonna do a 38 drink minimum and you're like all right well you're an alcoholic corbin so let's slow it down so they were just pumped because they got to drink on a weekday the bringer shows were always on wednesday thursday or like sunday so i was getting thrown up and i was doing these like these some of these shows and i was i was i had no right being there

and i was and i was with guys who are still running the circuit now who were like they're probably looking at me like why am i on the fucking lineup with this little kid but i was able to do that and um i started making videos on like vine if you remember that yeah of course making vine videos and then i was just doing stand-up my junior year. That's all I did junior year was that. And then my senior year, I was doing both of those. Vine kind of died out a little bit, so I was just all stand-up, all stand-up. Moved down here right after, like two weeks after college.

And then I had an internship at the Groundlings on Melrose. Yeah, of course. I went there for years. Yeah. i went through their uh writing lab like level three oh shit that's like that that's fucking that's great i just didn't have any interest in trying to be a groundling you know and i knew how competitive and how also like you know they would be like look will ferrell still ground like people needed to leave oh yeah spaces to open up for the sunday company to slide up is the way it was

explained to me yeah and it makes sense now looking back on it in hindsight and uh i was also an intern there so i knew all like the background stuff and they're like hey the process start to finish can take anywhere from like four to like eight years and i was like that's a fucking lot of time especially with like a digital era and like you, everything else you can do to like try to get in front of a camera or in front of the right people. So I was doing that. But yeah, I thought the internship was going to be like literally like hanging out with Kristen Wiig and Will Ferrell. They're like, no, just go fucking reorganize posters in the attic. I was like sweating.

They treat me like just like just shit. They're like, go do that. just like just shit they're like go do that i was just everybody's bitch there and then i did that for like six months and they're like you know what we like you we'll give you thursday night shifts paid and it's like 32 dollars i was like and what did you do like tickets or something yeah box office yeah or i'd run the concession stand and get free recess out of it so that's what i'm talking about yeah did that that was like 2015 to like 2016 ish and then uh i was working for a company called all deaf digital they're uh russell simmons yeah did it yeah and that was cool because it was music and comedy so i was kind of in that space

and uh they shot a lot of sketch comedy so they like put me in stuff here and there and then kind of just like work my way up to be like i I guess, you know, like a cast member for them. So, and then while doing that, I was just doing standup and also making videos at the same time. And where are you living and stuff at the time? How are you getting by? And yeah, so I was living in studio city and in a pool house. So somebody's pool house. Yeah. And it was just a room. There was no, like, there was like a little AC unit, but there was no where to was like a little ac unit but there was nowhere to cook there was no wi-fi the funniest thing is since there was no wi-fi i knew the people that lived in the house so if i wanted to like watch some fucking porn get get crazy in the

pool house i'd have to go inside load up like a few videos yeah and then like not close my laptop for anything so i'd have to have it all loaded up and plus they're in the house i gotta pretend like i'm just doing work you know just fucking sitting in the corner just looking at pornhub.com and then i would just go off into the the little uh pool house and heaven forbid i click refresh i'm fucked so it'd be it was really funny and i i liked it because it was a pool house i had an air mattress and i slept on it for like eight months and um i mean i i just i liked it because i never wanted to be home because there was nothing to do there and in the valley there's so many open mics so i'd be doing like flappers every night but you're like the

oyster house or the oyster bar whatever it's called i would just be like trying to hit all these different places and i was like never really home and then uh the first year i was here was all stand up and i was like all right let's get back on the video video hype and then just like try to do one video a week and just kept going from there and then after like a year and some change i finally had one video do do some numbers and i was like cool let's like not let the light die out and just keep running with it so we have a little list over here of some things we've talked about tell me about you said you had a near-death experience i want to hear about this yeah so since i started like smoking early on i was kind of in that like smoking drinking early on like

freshman year of high school just kind of like that's what we did on the weekends you know and your parents ever find out that they know yeah they found out but like i don't i don't know i i think a lot of it was like a don't ask don't tell type thing because the same week they found weed under my bed i found weed in my dad's room so it's one of those like you don't say anything i don't say anything is that mine yeah so and i think he knew that i found his weed because like i think i either like took a nug or like it was moved enough for him to be like oh fuck somebody's onto me so uh they found it and i was like oh i i found that weed somewhere in on a hiking trail even though the bag was like so

clean no dirt on it just like a perfect ziploc um so yeah i i never they were like aware of it they caught me drinking the summer going into uh ninth grade so i got in trouble for that i don't remember what happened but uh yeah so that's just what i was around and then one night this girl holly was having a party and she was like her like parents owned a mcdonald's or some shit damn like one of them in town but when you're in a small town of 60 000 people like you fucking you know who owns that goddamn mcdonald's yeah and he had like he had uh the mcdonald's dollars the mcbucks and people would get drunk and steal them from his house man people

used to give us i used to love that there was always one house in the neighborhood of halloween it would throw those in the bag yeah it's fucking great yeah you're like i don't need a goddamn dollars at mcdonald's i'll take this over your goddamn candy corn exactly i don't need a hundred grand bars you need fucking a hundred bucks right now and those things but like yeah since he owned that people would she had like a party house and she coincidentally also had a pool house this is just a fucking pool house podcast um that we would party in there and uh we were skateboarding back home to another friend's house was like a mile away and she lived on like this like windy hill and i could skate but not like well like i couldn't do tricks and shit but i could like hang with the group turns out when

you're hammered no can do you know and i just remember going down this hill and it goes and it makes like this like kind of like slow like kind of like a nasc type turn. And then it was a straightaway and then another sharp left. And I make the first turn. I remember I had. Are you hauling ass? Hauling ass, yeah. No helmet, obviously. No helmet.

Nothing. No helmet, half a brain. And how much have you drank at this point? God. Enough to, Jesus. I mean, I have no idea. I don't have a zero concept of like what time it is. Do you know what

you drank probably something stupid i used to drink things in high school called mad dogs yeah 2020 yeah i mean they look amazing yeah they taste like they taste like marketing is i mean the label doesn't even look good the label looks like something you'd find on a vintage t-shirt you know it's just like a little crest md 2020 but the colors of it you're like i need that in my body those were just fucking four locos without the carbonation i feel like so i i was probably drinking one of those because they were like two dollars they're cheap and uh i just remember leaving i was in the back of the group and then the last thing i remember is this is straight away how many people are in this group skating right now probably five or six.

Okay. They're all just hauling ass. Hauling ass. Is it nighttime too? Nighttime. Yeah, probably two or three in the morning. But the other group I was hanging out with that night, they were like, all they did was skate. All they did was go to a skate park. So they could skate whether they were in a coma or not.

They could fucking still figure it out. Me, on the other hand, I could barely skate sober. But I could hang a little bit. And in my head, I just remember seeing it straight away and i'm like i remember where like i don't know if you've ever been drunk and you've ever been hit your brain goes you don't feel it you just go oh i got hit like your brain registers it sober and been hit yeah i've been hit a lot your brain's like hang on like i think we just got it exactly so i remember seeing this pull my brain goes you need to make a left and then i go yep

and i just don't make the sharp left and then i just probably gone i don't even maybe like a golf cart speed like a good golf cart down like a yeah and uh yeah straight into it straight into a telephone pole a telephone telephone pole yeah and what happened got a concussion so i didn't break your fucking face nothing was broken i don't know what happened like Got a concussion. You didn't break your fucking face? Nothing was broken. I don't know what happened. You're drunk. That's why.

If you would have tensed up, you probably would have broke every bone in your body. That's a great point. Because if I was sober, I probably would have tried to block it with my arms. That's what I mean. If you were sober, you would have tensed up. Like do some fucking man-made shield. But I think I literally like, you know in cartoons when a body wraps around like something, like the arms go out. The arms and legs go out.

Yeah, some like tweety bird shit so i think it was something along those lines where i just like i just remember the split second before i hit it and then i woke up on this guy's couch for real yeah damn you didn't go to the hospital or anything no no no because we were all like 16 wonder how they got your knocked ass i wonder if they just laid you on the board and skated you that way. I think one of the guys who was at the party at the time, who knows, from what I was told, one of the guys at the party was like, he just got his license and he was still at the party. So I think he drove me back to the friend's house and was like, just keep them. And this is before like phones had internet.

So they're all just like, what do we do? Put fucking frozen corn on his forehead. Like I just woke up and everybody's just staring at me on the couch and i like had zero grasp of what happened i was like what's going on like why is everybody looking at me like when did we leave like it's really weird and then the next day i just went back uh to my parents house like nothing happened and they never found out no unless they listen what made how'd they find that weed what made them go looking probably just the people i was hanging out with were people that looked like they'd smoke

and i didn't hide it in a like a hard spot just literally under the mattress and it was like lighter weed clear eyes like it couldn't have been more like starter kit exactly yeah yeah under the mattress is like you might as well just put on your fucking desk at that point it's like oh where's where's his weed boom you know it's so yeah i remember uh that that was probably the closest i think i've had to like a near death incident because i mean who knows if there was like had like a rocket before and we're going straight into the pool i mean i don't really know i i'm so thankful that i walked away from that just being like you know just kind of shook it off the next day i was like fuck yeah let's go get those mcdonald's bucks back and yeah yeah sure this big bodily aches yeah with the egg mcmuffin well i asked you too about uh therapy and

stuff and you said you have you said you have inner demons at nighttime yeah what what it happened do you still smoke weed by the way sometimes you do you don't smoke to go to sleep or anything like now no no no what's going on at night for you i think it's just the everything slows down what i like in the day is like my brain doesn't have time to think about anxiety because you're doing other shit yeah you're doing other shit you're staying busy you're getting texts you're getting calls you're doing shit but at night there's something about just like nobody's hitting you up at like you know 1 a.m you're you're just you're by yourself and then like the the city's madness kind of like mellows out it's just you with your thoughts that's like whenever i have

to go to sleep early for a flight i never can't i'm just laying there and i just that's when the thoughts start creeping in where do you go with your thoughts? What thoughts creep in? What are your regular thoughts of anxiety? The biggest anxiety is what, like, what am I doing with my life? What, what, what is the meaning of all this? Where am I going with all this? It's like, I have this, like this career in the video world. And, but you know, what is my like five term, my five year goal? It's like, do I want to be, you know, 53 years old?

I'm like, what's up guys? Swipe on up to the new... But in reality... But in the reality of it is like... I'm five years away from it. But the reality of it is that is the future. I shouldn't be ashamed of that. Instead of me being like,

I want to work on a CBS show or whatever. I think that's where my brain was growing up as a kid. Be like, okay, do shows. I'm like, I want to get on Letterman. That show isn't even on it. You know what I mean?

You have these dreams of shit you want to do. And it's like, yeah, it shows Carson. Well, yeah. All right. Exactly.

Give me on comic view. So, um, I don't know. I think it's just the, the biggest fear for somebody, I think at least in my position mentally for me is like the relevancy factor of just being like – of just having what I have now and then either blowing it or just like it fizzles out. You know, there's a trajectory of a lot of this stuff.

and it's like okay let's say i'm up here and shit starts to you know go slow down not losing my mind and being like okay how do i dig myself out of this and have a comeback which you know a lot of people do and just not letting uh i think it's just a lot of the views and all this shit just there's so much going on it's like the fucking dow jones in my head but goddamn instagram video views and all that shit so it's kind of just like though you know what am i doing where do i want to go with this it's just kind of like so many questions at once but what do you do to calm yourself that's not good i just fucking call my phone and be like cool look at fucking ass on instagram zoom in you know it's like dude it's not great whenever i get anxiety i literally i'll just like roll over in bed and i'll just like open any app and then be like, cool, drown it out.

Or I'll like go on Twitter and just be like. And just push it down and block it out. Yeah. And that's just. While you're trying to learn how to deal with. Exactly. That's the type of shit. Yeah.

Therapy. So. I don't get those thoughts too often. Maybe if I'm hung over. Oh, they're fucking coming in hot. Really? Is it something with alcohol that does that? I think it's just like.

I feel. Depressant also. Yeah. I think I'm also lazier when I'm hungover, which I didn't know if you knew that. I was going to say, if you know anybody that's out there fucking just, whoo, let's go. I feel like shit. Come on, y'all.

Yeah, well, when I fucking hit a goddamn telephone pole the next day I was. But I think I ran – I think as a human you get like 250 get out of jail free passes for hangovers yeah and i use them bitches up quick i was like 19 getting hangovers so um yeah i don't know what it is but like whenever i'm hung over everybody's productive you know i open up my fucking phone people are booking shit people are like just fucking landed this netflix series and i'm just laying there just just with like nacho cheese coming out of my ears and i'm like what am i doing right now it's hard it's hard to keep those blinders on and stay in your fucking lane and focus on your shit not look left and right worry about that's a great point it's

hard it's really hard not to do that because naturally you're competitive also and you're like how the fuck did he get that yeah i don't know they were auditioning for that show right exactly exactly so it's kind of like yeah keeping the blinders on and whatnot. But also I've learned from therapy, especially this EMDR therapy is about future tripping, she called it. And it's just what you're doing. Don't worry about the future. You're worrying about everything tomorrow and the next day and then none of it is happening. And you're just spiraling inside worrying about some shit that's not gonna happen when reality you probably lay

in there in a comfortable fucking bed with a roof over your head yeah belly full of food and you know yeah and that's something uh and people who love you yeah there it is and and i try to uh you know remember those moments whenever I feel like that. Easier said than done, bro. Exactly. You're going to be crying a lot. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. But there's times where it's just like, I'll be like, okay. But it feels so weird. It feels so robotic to look out and be like, I am thankful for this, you know? I'm just looking out at, you know, fucking Studio City and be like, here we are. And my neighbors. What next? Exactly. Yeah. But it is – What next? Exactly, yeah.

So – but it is good to remind yourself of those things. But like what always helps me – and I'm not like a buff guy by any means. I don't know if you can fucking tell by my – You're kind of jacked. Yeah, kind of jacked. But like whenever like just getting out of the house or working out or doing something always like takes me out of that slump. Yeah, the sun always makes you feel better.

Me too. But also just getting outside, I don't know what it is about hiking or just walking. It clears my mind. But then I become like this open channel of ideas, especially when I listen to music. I put scenes to music in my head that I think would be funny. When I hear a song, I'm big on the words, but also I'll like put what I think will be a really funny scene to that song. And I try to pair them up to songs you would never – like Bad to the Bone, I'm not going to put some biker. You know what I mean? If it was going to be that, it would be something different, completely different that you wouldn't see coming. It's a good idea.

But the whole future tripping thing, it's hard not to do that it's hard not to worry about where your next paycheck's coming from or next meal it's so true it's it's in the future why even because you have no control over it doesn't matter you lay there and think if i do this this is going to happen and then the fucking universe is going to do some whatever the fuck it wants to do you're like i did not even see i didn't even think of that fucking example exactly didn't even cross my mind any success i've gotten in this career came from a place that i wouldn't have guessed it you know like what do you wear i'm just saying like um like you wouldn't have thought youtube or instagram i've always wanted to do that but like the way i got or like maybe

the video i thought that was going to put me up there did the biggest. Like one video that did like crazy things for me was like this White Claw video. And I made that and just kind of posted it. I was like, all right, whatever. You know, like zero attachment to it. Zero like this is the one. I was like, if it works, it works. And that's probably why it worked because you had that attitude.

Exactly. So or that or like how I met my manager was like never the way I would have. I would have thought I had to like audition and do all this crazy stuff. But like my manager was just a fan who signed another guy. And then it's just like everything of success. Like I would have never been like, oh, I'm going to get on Comedy Central because I tag them on my post every day. But just however it happens, the less I worried about how I'm going to get it instead of working towards the thing,

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Now, let's get back to the do. Yeah. But, yeah, like you were saying earlier, it's easier said than done. Way easier. How old are you 28 so what's been the biggest disappointment for you so far personally the fact probably the fact that i'm gonna ask professionally next but personally what's been the biggest disappointment in your life i think it's getting things i wanted so bad when i was like 17 or 18 first starting in comedy getting those things and not feeling like on top of the world it's like certain things in my head I'd be like why don't I feel happier

so it's like I don't know some of this shit just doesn't like for me the biggest thing I did was was Gramercy Theater in New York damn you got to do that yeah wow so I did that for the New York Comedy Festival last year and i was like i should be happier why am i not sold it out why am i not like you know and then i've talked to other people like yeah i feel the same way it just means you're on the right track and you're like not getting caught up and like sucking your own dick yeah that's really what it is because you get this moment it's an it's a weird business you get this moment. It's a weird business. You get this fucking high, and then it's over, and literally tomorrow is now what?

Yeah. It's that fast. I don't care if it's a four-hour fucking special Netflix is giving you. It's over the next day. Yeah. And then you can ride off of that for a little bit, but still you're like, okay, what's next, though? What's next? Yeah, so I think it's just that. off of that for a little bit but still you're like okay what's next though what's next yeah so i think it's just that but but once you can understand that that it's like okay i didn't

get super stoked about it because that was kind of in my plan the whole time then you're like oh that makes sense but i think that was just the first thing where i was like should i be happier should i take a moment to like reflect you know but i i do think about times of like where it started out to them be that's where i feel gratitude is comparing where i started out and like thinking about i used to the same guy that owns the ventura harbor comedy club used to run on out of a marie calendars do you ever do that one which one up in valencia jr's comedy club never did that one i used to host it every friday and saturday and a marie calendars i did it well marie calendars used to have one here on

wilshire they have one upstairs it's actually called calendars they would love to correct you when you go in there they're they're like who's my ship right and then it spun off to marie calendars but they're the like the first restaurant yeah but they had an upstairs back in the day and it was comedy there on like a wednesday night and shit yeah yeah this was up in valencia by six flags and i hosted every friday and saturday when i first moved out here because it was like 10 minutes each night it paid decent because it was one of those where you like you take their tickets you checked everybody in and then when you're finished you go on stage like hey i'm also the guy doing comedy and nobody gives a fuck so

yeah um like and and that was the audience of that like the average age was probably just fucking obituary it was just old old so thinking back and being like okay grammar c was all people who are like my age who love me versus marie calendars and these people couldn't couldn't give less of a fuck about me you know they're just like cool and we used to get paid in pies there nah swear to god you can ask so many people, a lot of people would run through that. I mean, guys like Eric Myers and Craig Conant are all guys that I would like see at that Marie Callender's and like, it's cool. And I caught up with Craig on his podcast recently.

We were talking about like, you know, those little things. So that's when I feel the most gratitude. Sometimes not in the moment, but when I like take a step back and be like, oh, fuck, we used to get paid in pies to get heckled by a guy with no teeth that's right so paid in pies drink tickets yeah all that bullshit until you get somewhere so what's been your biggest um disappointment professionally so far damn uh i mean did you panic when vine went away was that oh uh was that a revenue stream?

It wasn't yet. Yeah, no, I wasn't really big on there, but I was just making videos on there. I had a few things that did okay, but it was enough to spark the engine in my head. Be like, okay, this is how it works. You know, you can make some videos and they can take its course. But the biggest disappointment. Shit. I've talked about this before on other podcasts but with that white claw video that came out i made a shirt with a quote from it and then i put it on their logo but altered it a little bit

and i did it without running past any legal team this is before i had any manager or any agent i had a manager but i didn't have like a lawyer or anybody like an extensive end. And I put the shirts up for sale and ended up selling like a couple thousand in two days, a couple thousand t-shirts. And they hit me with a cease and assist to. Did they ask you for the money or just told you to stop? So where they kind of pinpointed me was. White claws. Dude, they fucking, they hit me with like every different angle

they're like if you do this we'll get you there if you do this we'll get you there so it was a print on demand service so they were collecting orders so the sale was for like a week and then it was going to go to the print shop and they're like hey look we know you haven't printed any of these yet had you printed them and then sold them we tell you to just stop but since they haven't even been to production yet oh so you could have got at least a couple bucks out of this fucking thing more than a couple dollars oh yeah i could have got a fucking uh fucking cso special out of this shit you know this show it was like good money and and i was fucking stopped it because it hadn't printed yet yeah and they're like look we know you have a day left so a day and some change left

so it hasn't even gone to the printer yet so if you print them that's when our legal team will fully come after you because then you went against the cease and desist so i had to return all the shirts and i mean the messages i was getting were just everybody's a fucking law critic now you fucking try to take it i'm a 25 year old comedian everyone knows everything i don't fucking know what the fuck to do you think i'm gonna go to court i don't uh the case for trevor wilds versus white claw yes so that was i so for the terms of like the shirt went up wednesday i got the cease and desist like tuesday and then everything was back to normal wednesday but it was like the wildest 72 hours

and and when and this is the first time i ever saw like money money and i was fucking living like it i was googling how to buy used m3 like i was fucking used that's where my bar is not even like not even like 2020 i'm talking used m3 because my jew brain is like, how do I get a nice car but like asterisk next to nice? And I was ordering fucking Postmates with like matcha lemonade. I don't even like lemonade. I'm just ordering like an asshole because I can because I thought that night I was like, I just hit it big with this T-shirt. And then the next morning they're like, we're actually going to need that money back. And yeah, that was a a i've learned more in

that than i ever learned in all of my years of schooling but i mean the chances that that shirt like took off like that i had zero idea i thought i thought it's a couple handfuls but like i just posted the shirt everywhere and people shared it like the shirt was like a meme and i was like oh fuck we're onto something here so yeah that that was i don't even know that was just that was a disappointment that was a mistake it was just everything in one but that fucking oof i still have night terrors about that that's where my anxiety comes from yeah wake up in the middle of night and yell white claw then punch my window out yeah well especially when you have an income the way ours you know if youtube decides they want to

demonetize the fuck there it goes yeah there's no arguing it there's it's just like no we just we're gonna shut your page yeah and that's the way that's my job not anymore no exactly so that's kind of where like and that's a whole thinking in the future there is times where i'm like what if youtube just went away what is my job what's my income but it's like when i quit my job i had that same thought and then after a while i stopped thinking about it and then it took care of itself when you quit what job when i was working at all deaf digital that was the they quit there yeah so i quit there in 2017 2017 and uh i was there for i remember it was 2018 i was there for three years and then i was just

kind of like how am i gonna make money i don't know i'll figure it out but when i stopped worrying about how i'm gonna make money is when i started to make money which i think that makes sense in the long run it's like if you worry about something it's not gonna get done but if you kind of just do the thing without worrying it'll get you to take care of itself yeah it'll get you to the finish line so what do you what's another thing you want to do? You're going to stick with stand-up when it comes back? Yeah. I like what I'm doing now.

I want to add different elements to it, just kind of level it up a little bit. I think for stand-up, it's one of those things where it's like even what we were talking about earlier, how Groundlings is still like Will Ferrell is still up here. That's how it is with stand-up, especially now than ever so it's like somebody shows around town it's like you're going up with the big dog so it's like i want to still be able to like stay sharp because going up in front of my own audience is one thing because they love me you know they're there for you but it's like if i'm just at a random fucking show in the in the belly room and it's like bird just went up and i'm like okay obviously i'm gonna'm going to shit myself. But like, how do I like, like,

okay, let's pull a smelly list and let's keep that sharp. So that's something I always want to like be sharp on. But videos, I kind of just want to like try different stuff or make little higher production stuff, experiment a little bit. Um,

and you know, I get auditions here and there. I never book anything, but, uh, what do you want to do? I, I want to do what i do now and then

what's crazy is i told myself early on i was like i want to stay in town during the week do spots at night film in the day and then tour on the weekends it's kind of what i do before covid a little bit now but um i do want to do some stuff in like the traditional world just to give it a shot you know everybody's telling me they're like no fucking stick in this lane and i agree i definitely want to stay in digital and i don't want to abandon the people that got me here but what do you want to try just like longer form content whether it's uh you know writing a show or oh writing a show yeah writing a show being in it and okay you know being doing the movie thing just to just because i mean like to to tell the you know like the younger me like the the teenage trevor who's like i have all these comedy dreams and goals i

want to be on tv i want to be in movies and then i want to do it to be like okay if i liked it sure stick with it if i didn't like it i go hey i did the thing you know so just uh checking that off the list have you ever had a regular job yeah what was it that was working all that digital i was i did all their social media but that's also in entertainment have you ever done anything like a starbucks or oh yeah yeah so i worked at a jamba juice in college you did yeah i'm sure you could tell by my looks very jamba juice i fit yeah it was great dude it's a fucking if i can find a picture i'll send it it to you. It was just – my college, I was just a fucking tool. I was in a frat.

I took like creatine, like buff up, but like my body was just a fucking water bag. I was going to say it's all water weight. It's all bluff. It's just a Ziploc bag jammed into my arm. So I was on like creatine. I'd wear the fucking – the visor at Jamba Juice, orange shirt that didn't fit me, trying to show like two inches of bicep. So I did that.

I also worked at a kiosk inside of the Costco. I did that my senior year. That paid decent for a college gig. So, you know, it's a kiosk that everybody doesn't make eye contact with. Yeah, yeah. I did that, and that was for window covering blinds, whatever. Yeah, we just like try to sell people that uh i worked a little microphone and all that shit and you're showing them no i didn't know that

now but we just had you would kill that your character now how are you not doing that video i don't know please do a fucking selling blinds at the costco stand guy i need to but uh and then i worked at a a lot of just frozen blended shit in my life. I worked at a frozen yogurt store in high school for three years and – yeah, but that's not really like labor. That's not like work. Like anybody listening to this – No, it's responsibility though. I'll show you work. Yeah, exactly.

Well, that's responsibility. True. Yeah. And it gave me something to do and did that. Then I worked at my friend's like plant nursery a little bit during some of the summers and but you had always wanted to do comedy then yeah so that was something you knew even before you tried doing stand-up like i want to do comedy yeah i mean i didn't necessarily i didn't know i wanted to do comedy until i did it for the first time and i was like oh i can i can do this

professionally how do i figure that out so gotcha uh but i'd always just love comedy just growing up and just watching like anything jim carrey anything robin williams or like yeah i was just so attracted to that style of entertainment and like anything action or drama or superheroes never really did it for me so yeah i just was always even like looking back my mom found some shit in a baby book that was like what is your dream job and like third grade i wrote comedian did you yeah yeah i knew back then too i wanted to i mean i knew you i i i mean i thought i wanted to do stand up and be on snl that's what i thought comedy was yeah you know you do stand up you get on snl you get in the movies that's what i thought comedy was but at a certain time it was

sure it was um but man has it evolved in the last 20 years and rapidly changed. More so in the last three. Yeah, now you've got Clubhouse and all these things just popping up. And I'm like, fuck. Yeah, it's a lot to keep up with. Where'd you start out at? In Baltimore. I mean, I say I started out, but I only did about three or four shows there.

But it's where I did start before I came here. I did Baltimore Comedy Factory. Yeah, bro. Is that the one in the hotel? Oh, it is now. Yeah. That thing has moved so many places, it's finally in a fucking corner of a hotel now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I did that with some of the guys at All That Digital because the guys I was working with at the time were also in the videos, but they were also touring and doing stuff. Yeah, it was a fun time i remember we like we all pulled up in like this like suv and the back was like loading dock and they're like we're fucking i mean every comedy club to some extent you're always walking through the kitchen going down like fry cooks with one eye are waving at you from going exactly yeah yeah that was a good club all right so i ask um ask – we're about there. I ask every guest who's a first-time guest. Yes, sir. After everything we've talked about now and knowing – and you sort of did touch on it a tiny bit.

But going back to your 16-year-old self, what would you tell 16-year-old Trevor? What advice would you give to yourself? I think I'll say this advice, but it's still something I need to tell myself to this day is, is, is patience with it. And, uh, just like keep your eye on the prize. And what you said with like the blinders, it's like, just focus on what you want and what, however, whatever work you're doing, just make sure it's in that same direction, you know? So I think just patience with it. Cause like quick success is not the success you want you know overnight fame is not what you want overnight videos that go crazy or you know they

often don't have a longevity so i think patience and uh the more work you put into it the more this sounds stupid but the more work you put into the more ready you'll be when something crazy happens because like you know some of these guys have been doing stand-up for 30 years they finally get that netflix special but their first hour is just insane and it's like oh they were ready yeah but you take a special too early on and you're like hey this is hot garbage but it paid a mil so yeah you know that patience of like that way when when the opportunity comes you're ready i think that that's great man, thank you for coming on here and doing this. I really appreciate you coming on. Please, again, promote everything you want to promote.

Yeah, check out my podcast, Stiff Socks. It's every Wednesday. We also do a Patreon with an extra episode on Fridays. Just patreon.com slash stiffsockspod. But other than that, yeah, my YouTube channel is just where I post everything. That's where most people might either watch this shit or know me from. But, yeah, I feel like I came on here and just talked for like an hour. That's what you do on this show.

Cool, man. Wait, I do have a question to ask you about your YouTube videos and stuff. So the whole like – god damn, I just forgot my question now because you just mentioned something about the videos overnight and stuff. Overnight overnight and stuff like overnight success yeah like um do you do you like do you freak out if a do you have a certain number in your head that every video you want to hit oh you don't have to say i think so yeah i have a goal where if it doesn't hit that number you're like fuck yeah i think so which is fucked up because that number in my head if i had that number a're like fuck yeah i think so which is fucked up because that number in my head if i had that number a couple years ago i would be like that's a crazy

number to even get so so now i really remember what i wanted to ask you is are you do you love what you're doing do you love it i love what i'm doing i just have to find a way to disassociate views from the passion it's like the most fucked up thing that'll be is like i make this video that i know and love i'm proud of and i'm like this is funny to me and then i post it and you know it's like it was funny to you not today you know it's the same whatever happened instagram taking the likes and shit off they talked about it and talked about it and talked about it forever it never fucking happened they're spiraling out of control my likes are gone i can't see anybody's likes but like oh you can't yeah no but like some people can

some people can't i can but my videos now sometimes the audio will just cut out on it it won't do it on any other yeah and i watch other people's and it does it too it like cuts in and out instagram is thing yeah instagram is fucking spiraling out of control right now they're trying to figure out what the fuck's going on because they were on top of the world for so long and now tiktok's out of nowhere is like we're the hot girl now and then instagram's like what what about me instagram's like the girl you see walking around on like fucking you know in front of soho house with 90 000 of like plastic surgery and just trying to hold it together like what about me you guys don't want me and uh so it is trying to be like i'm

not to say relevant because i think instagram is still very relevant but uh i think they're just trying so much at once that they like it's like you know when you have a bit that's like half worked out and you're like okay i need to fix this tag or two then i'll be fully done and then you just kind of forget about it i think that's what you're talking about with like instagram's like we're gonna remove the likes so we can get ego out of this. Because that's why they did it. That's why everybody's on social media for fucking ego. What are you talking about?

Exactly. So I think they tried that. And then they're like, yeah, fuck that bit. Let's try this again. Well, thank you again for coming on, man. For real. This was great. Thank you.

It was a pleasure to have you on. It's long overdue, dude. Yeah. It's long overdue. As always, RyanSickler.com. Ryan Sickler on all social media. we'll talk to you all next week