The Hope Hotline - Blended Family & Different Religions | S02-E39 | 06-14-2024
Episode Date: June 15, 2024Blended Family & Different Religions | S02-E39 | 06-14-2024...
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hello welcome to friday's hope hotline a little I'm sorry. I forgot to put my ear thingy in and I'm trying to rush. They're laughing at me.
What? We would never.
Because I look ridiculous before the thing came on. Okay. The most professional podcast there is out there.
Ever.
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Happy Friday. I hope you have something great that you have planned to do.
I'm going to dinner tonight, and that's about it.
That's all I got.
Cool, okay.
Going to Tampa.
Tampa.
Yes, I heard about that.
You're going to the place I'm going for my birthday.
Where?
What?
Some Brazilian steakhouse.
Yes.
Is that the place where they give you like a...
They serve you the eats.
Yes.
Or you what? They give you this thing
with a green top
and a red bottom.
And then as long as
it has green
on your table,
they'll just bring you
meat after meat
after meat.
Oh, so you flip
the little...
It's like a token.
Is it Radizio's?
Once you've got
the meat sweats,
you just flip it over
to the red is it
called radios i have no idea this is this is a jagger place oh because that's the one we went
to and that's what it is you have like you tell them when you want more meat over your table
and they just keep bringing it to you and bringing it to you and they it's like they slice it off of
like yeah yeah a huge piece delicious i. I'm going to be eating.
I don't know if she's on, but me and Jamie and that crew and then Tommy's coming.
Okay.
Fun.
It's going to be fun.
It's like a Lively and Peck dinner.
Yeah.
That's fun.
We're getting the two families.
Finally.
I love it.
Finally.
I'm telling you right now, like, I would think, like, we should do dinner.
Mm-hmm.
And then I would forget.
I know.
And their life's, like, listen.
I know.
My life is pretty busy.
Theirs is insane.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They got a new business, right?
They have so many insane. Yeah. They got a new business, right? They have so many things.
Yeah.
Like they have so many businesses.
They have property.
Okay.
They have property management.
They have his electrical company, electrical business.
They have the acai.
Yeah.
I mean, they're entrepreneurs.
That's cool. So. I love that but i have i have dinner
tonight i'm going out on a date with a lot of people i'll take it yeah i never get i mean
tom will be um you know what's crazy is uh we were supposed to go to a wedding on uh what day
was that tuesday yeah yep we got we got in the car at two o'clock
and we didn't even make it to 64. that's insane and we had sat in traffic for over an hour
good old florida so we missed the wedding no yeah yeah we did we were not going to get there until like between 30 and 40 minutes after the wedding had taken place
that's terrible two o'clock in the afternoon a semi was hanging off a bridge oh my god that's
64 yeah what is it's not i-64 it's not route 64 it's state road 64 okay yeah i i listen State Road 64 Okay Yeah Listen
We were just like
Keep the peace people
People are idiots
They're idiot drivers
So I'm hoping
That we will not be late tonight
I know
Yeah
But what are you guys doing?
Charlotte has a play tonight
Oh yeah
Char has a play
Where is the play? Punta Gord the play punta gorda punta gorda
punta gorda playhouse uh theater it's a theater yeah oh yeah it's at the event center
in the event city charlotte players c-pack yeah it's a c-pack which is
like um charlotte high school high school oh okay yeah oh cool what is she uh what's her what's her
uh not that you guys care but i am interested in this one of the leads she's one of the leads
three or four she's actually a great little actress she's a ham yeah i can see that so
listen she's good in a clench like that's why I always have her up there for Christmas
when I have little girls sing.
She don't care.
She'll do it all by herself.
Like one year, poor Brynn, she made it for like two.
She gave up on one because she had to perform three different shows
or three different Christmas Eve's.
She was down for the count on the. Yeah. She was down for the count
on the second one.
She came back
for the third.
She was tired.
I know.
It was a lot.
I mean,
but Char does not.
Charlotte's like,
Charlotte's like,
give me the stage.
She's kind of like Sarah.
Yeah.
Give me the stage.
I trained her.
You know that.
I'm the first one
to put a microphone
in her hand
and give her a lead role.
That is true. What? There it was. The the impartation it wasn't straight up impartation holy mackerel i
didn't know that i didn't either then she had me oh yep that's so fun that's crazy she was like
six or five she was little and we did shrek the musical. It was the summer of when COVID hit in 2020.
And I was like, I need some
little ones that
can deal fear that will just get up on the stage.
And she took that microphone,
had her first little solo, and then the next
year she played the lead.
Her and Tempest played
the Cat in the Hat and JoJo and
Seussical.
So I'll take some credit for the training. played the cat in the hat and JoJo and Seussical. Yeah.
So I'll take some credit for the training of Charlotte.
Somebody had to give her a chance.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Okay, so you're doing that tonight.
Yep.
Tracy, what are you doing?
No plans yet.
No plans.
What about you, Vanessa?
You always have something.
Well, no.
My man is flying in. Oh, yeah, that's in oh he's been in Utah for the last couple days where's he been oh I saw that because I think I liked it Park City
yeah Park City been there a few times um he is struggling because of the um elevation it's high
he said like like uh going upstairs right now his like his heart
is like beating so fast
it's just because
it's kicking his butt
oh my gosh
elevation is
yeah
for real
I know
there's like hands of air
they hand you
no way
it's crazy
what
oh yeah
oh my gosh
I had no idea
when you go skiing
yeah
oh yeah
we're going there for Christmas
that wasn't a joke
yeah that's right
we're going there for Christmas
we're going there for Christmas am I going with, that's right. It wasn't a joke. Yeah, that's right. We're going there for Christmas. We're going there for Christmas?
Am I going with you?
Yes.
Okay.
That's right.
Good to know.
I forgot about that.
He's headed back.
So after this, I'm picking up Indian food because that's our favorite.
Oh, fun.
And we're just going to have a little family dinner.
Aw.
I've never had Indian food.
Oh, it's delicious.
Never.
My whole life.
And now a little dessert.
Okay, Sarah. food. Oh, it's delicious. Ever. My whole life. And now a little dessert. Okay, Sarah.
Hey.
Hey.
Oh.
Nasty.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
We need like a whole pot line after dark where Talia doesn't have to be privy to these conversations.
I don't know how many people would join a whole pot line after dark, but I'm there.
I don't know if my husband will allow it,
but I'm there.
That'd be funny.
That would be nasty.
It could be nasty.
Could be.
Especially if Hope's there.
Don't get Logan on.
That's true.
Oh, yeah.
He and Logan would be in big trouble.
Might get a little ghetto.
And a little good.
Never know.
Vanessa can hang.
Yeah.
But so can you, Tracy.
What am I saying?
Absolutely.
I cringe the whole time.
Me too.
What?
I can hang.
She might cringe the whole time.
Depends what words are said.
I don't cuss.
Right. That's true. No, that's said. I don't cuss. Right.
That's true.
No, that's true.
I mean, I get really close.
Not cussing.
I don't get close to the line on cussing.
But I get close to the line on like.
Being appropriate.
Inappropriate.
Yeah.
That's true.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
You never know. That's why we love you. Yep. Yeah. You never know.
That's why we love you.
Yep.
What do you got, Sarah?
Then everybody can tell us what they're doing on Rumble.
Give us a load down.
If somebody's got something good, I want to know about it.
Okay.
Go ahead.
We're having movie night.
Ooh.
Okay.
I like that.
That's code, though, for something.
I've been warming up the crock pot
today.
Disgusting.
We went to do a site survey
today, and I was just watching
Derek measure
stuff, and I was like,
whew.
Men being
men is pretty hot. So I told him, I was like, whew. Men being men is pretty hot.
So I told him, I was like, you weren't really doing anything spectacular, but I liked it
a lot.
So catch me later.
When Tom was with the sheriff's office, I remember one time we were talking or something.
We weren't dating.
We were married by this time.
And I think Tommy was in the back seat.
But he was on duty.
And I don't know how I ended up seeing him.
But he was on duty.
And he got a call.
And he raced off with that siren going.
I went.
I texted him.
That was hot.
Oh, my gosh.
Now I know why cops get girls.
Now your siren is also going.
See you later.
That was a blink.
Yeah.
I'll be seeing you later.
Yeah.
Seriously.
I'm going to schedule a service call.
Oh, my gosh.
Poor guys.
The poor men watching.
Hey, but listen,
if you're watching
and you're a guy,
at least you know
how girls think.
Well, yeah,
Sean just said
I've never heard it.
This is the locker room.
This is locker room talk
right now.
True.
Sean just said
Crock-Pot never heard
of that before.
So he's learning
something new.
Congratulations.
Warming up the Crock-Pot.
That's what Vanessa says.
So we've all stolen.
I'm a crock pot.
Not microwave.
There ain't no microwave in a woman.
Well, maybe Sarah, but there ain't many
women that are microwaves.
Not many.
Air fryer. Is there an air fryer?
Tal, you can't have an air fryer
right now. There will be no cooking
for you.
That's the soup not to be no cooking for you. That's the soup
not soup. No soup for you.
No soup for you.
It's not allowed.
That's so funny.
You're off limits.
I'll tell you when you're on limits, sister.
And with who?
Okay.
To knock it off over there.
This is not a cult.
Arranged marriages, yes.
Cults, no.
I mean, who wouldn't?
Come on, like arranged marriages.
I'm here for it.
It's an idea.
90% success rate.
See?
Arranged marriages.
I think it's higher than that.
It might be, actually.
I think it's like 97 or something ridiculous.
So I think I need to talk to the pecs tonight.
Okay.
I love Jagger. I know. I do the pecs tonight. I love Jagger.
I know. I do too.
Who doesn't? I mean,
listen, I'm telling you.
I love my Tommy.
But he could learn a few things from
Jagger.
Nobody can beat Jagger.
I know.
I'm telling you.
Such a good guy.
I met him.
Jeff and Jamie, they did a great job on that boy, that young man.
They sure did.
Yep.
Even when I step out of the car, he, like, grabs my hand.
I'm like, where?
Where's another?
Hey, he has a brother, Jackson.
Yes, but I think he has.
He has a girlfriend?
Well, he's, yeah.
He's got his eye on somebody?
Somebody, yeah.
But they're probably not the same.
They're all good looking kids.
I think they're all in relationships.
Yeah.
Are going to be.
I'll do it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, people need to take, I don't know what they did.
That's interesting.
Part of it is partly, I think, is the child.
It is.
Like Norma is a very, likea is innately a very good person.
Tommy takes after me.
Innately is not.
He's not innately a good person.
He's got to force himself.
And even then, it doesn't happen.
So, Sarum said her parents were arranged, and they've been together for 45 years.
That's amazing.
That's wild.
I never knew that.
I never known anybody who was in an arranged marriage.
I knew one of my girlfriends back in my early 20s.
She was dating a, I think it was from Pakistan.
Really good looking guy.
They were both in love with each other.
She's white as white can be.
She's a blondie.
So she went and passed in the test.
And they ended up,
his parents made him break up with her.
And then like two months later, he was married
to another girl because it was an arranged marriage.
Are they still together? In my
20s. I have no idea because I'm
not friends. I mean, I don't talk to this girl anymore.
It was back in my bad days. I know, I do wonder too.
Yeah, but he did not
want to, he wanted to be with her
and his parents like, no go. This is in
like DC. Oh wow. Like this is not like
I'm in Pakistan here. Right, right. Right. But like D.C. Oh, wow. Like this is not like I'm in Pakistan here.
Right, right, right.
But it's so ingrained in their culture.
So ingrained.
Yeah.
It's a melting pot there.
But even though it's a melting pot, like there are still things that that's the way it is.
Right.
Oh, let's just move that over there.
That's yours.
So it's pretty weird.
It's pretty wild.
Yeah.
But I've never known somebody personally
me either
like
that's wild
that Sam's parents were
that's pretty cool
it's great that
they're still together
45 years
wow
that's crazy
I don't think
I would do that
I would be very rebellious
I might run away
what's wrong with them?
nah
I get to pick who I want to be they have like a matchmaker oh you think so? and they consult I might run away. What's wrong with them? Nah.
I get to pick who I want to be.
They have like a matchmaker.
Oh, you think so? And they consult a matchmaker.
And they like arrange personalities.
It's very much like.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that.
They're involved.
That's why it works.
It's not two random people.
Like they really take time to like pair.
Oh, it's not random.
I thought it was. No, they take take time to like pair. It's not random. I thought it was.
No, they take that time and like pair the right people together.
Okay.
My thought was that these people aren't happy.
They're just together.
But like religiously, like they can't break up.
Like that's how I always thought it was.
But also my thing too is like.
I like that better.
What my fear would always be like, would I be attracted to that person?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, there's a show that's called Married at First Sight.
Love is blind.
Well, that one too.
That one too.
But you don't get married.
I'm watching Married at First Sight.
Married at First Sight.
They see each other for the first time when they're walking down the aisle.
But they have a matchmaker.
They have these professional matchmakers.
And I don't think that they make it.
That's nuts. It's literally nuts. I don't think that they make it. That's nuts.
It's literally nuts.
There is a few that stayed together.
Yeah, there are some that stayed together.
And there's a lot that did not.
Because what if you didn't find the person attractive?
And that's sometimes the problem.
And the other one is like some of them say they're like religious.
And then the other ones are like open to religion.
But like that is such like if you have any relationship with God and then they are like open to religion but you like that is such like if you
have any relationship with god and then they are like open to spirituality like it doesn't work
and that has that happened yes did you ever watch it yes somebody was a christian and was willing
to do this yeah yeah yeah because i mean they're not much of a christian exactly so they believe
in god they went to church growing up and so that's important to them they want to raise their kids eventually when their kids get like you know they have kids they God. They went to church growing up. And so that's important to
them. They want to raise their kids eventually when their kids get like, you know, they have
kids, they want them to go to church. So that's their religion is to go to church, you know?
So they're open to anybody that's open to spiritual stuff. So then this one girl's like new age,
and then she's open to spiritual stuff too. It didn't work. It didn't work. It didn't. Cause
he believes morally that certain
things are wrong because that's how he was taught biblically you know and hers is like no like
you're your own spiritual being basically so those ones never worked yeah but it's very interesting
sarah said something crazy she said put this over here my dad handpicked my mom i was arranged with a doctor from france 10
years older than me and i almost had to run away with adam oh she's literally living a book like
life like be like uh telenovela literally i would watch it i would run away too yeah oh i would too
yeah i think she told me that story that's's crazy. That's like coming back to me.
Okay. That sounds wild. Yeah. That's not cool. No bueno. Yeah. And then Sean had a friend in college and he was an arranged marriage, but he cheated on her and they ended after a couple
years. So Sean was in an arranged relationship. No, no. Sean had a friend in college. Yes.
Sean. I know Sean. How sean how dare you no it probably
is him no i'm joking you know how people go friend a friend yeah yeah wow that's crazy
yeah yeah that's what you do if you end up not liking the person or like being, you just cheat on them. Right. Bye. That'll get you out of it.
Well, if you're not married,
it's okay.
That's it.
In my book.
I mean,
it's definitely an arranged marriage.
If somebody's going to arrange you
in a marriage
and you're not attracted to them,
cheat on them
and they'll not want to marry you.
That's true.
Well, you are married.
But you are married.
It's an arranged marriage.
But you haven't married them yet. I don't think you see each other, right? What? Yes, you do. But you are married. It's an arranged marriage. But you haven't married him yet.
I don't think you see each other, right?
What?
Yes, you do.
You do?
Yes.
For like a week.
Oh.
Yeah, I cheat in that week really quick.
Oh my gosh.
I would cheat so fast.
Well, that's why I know all of this.
I know.
I mean, you know weird stuff, so I like it.
The other day, Sarah knew something about a song which blew my
mind so yeah somehow telepathy and you knew about the dry brushing thing i did and you like
everything yeah she just has this weird information in her head yeah it's like all of it is useful
yeah well no if you were playing trivia it might work out trivia exactly otherwise now
it's the articles otherwise now It's not going to happen.
Right.
All right.
Let's get to it.
Sisters.
Let's do it.
Do you want me to do the social graphs and all that stuff?
Absolutely.
All right,
let's go.
All right.
Facebookers.
Let's see who we got.
Oh,
my husband's on.
Hope his hair looks great from my husband.
And then he said,
my wife is hot.
And Talia said,
gross.
I love the comments.
I'm fixing my hair without him seeing.
I'll pull this up.
There you go.
So Jer, Rumble, hello.
I need to hook you up.
I don't even think you have a Rumble account yet.
And then Jamie's on.
Hey Jamie.
Have fun at dinner tonight.
See you in about three hours.
She knows you're going to quiz her
on the show today
so she's like
I'm going to hop on
I'm just kidding Jamie
I'm glad you're on
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Maybe that's prophetic.
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I'm going to write that down on my calendar.
It's highly unlikely, but it's actually June 20th.
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Yes.
It'll be streamed.
Yes.
That's so good.
So we had,
uh,
I wouldn't say lots.
We had several requests for it to be streamed.
So we're trying to accomplish things.
Baby steps.
I love it.
I think, yeah, that's great.
It is great.
Are we ready for the first question?
Let's do it.
We're good?
Yep.
It says,
I hope.
I come asking for your advice and some Bible verses to help me and my husband.
I have an 11-year-old and an 8-year-old from my first marriage.
He is Jewish, completely closed-minded to Christianity.
I am remarried now, and my current husband and I got saved a little over a year ago,
and we now have a baby.
Praise the Lord.
My first two kids seemed to be all in when we decided to change our lifestyle,
but now we are seeing doubt in them.
After having a long talk, they explained that they feel confused
because when they go to their father's house,
they are not allowed to talk about Jesus.
And when they are with us, that is basically all we talk about.
In addition, my mom is a very lukewarm Christian.
She's actually Catholic and believes that I have been brainwashed.
So when my kids spend time,
spend time in her house,
which I'm trying to limit now,
she tells them that the devil is not real and that the Bible is just a book.
How can you be Catholic?
I know.
I know lukewarm,
but no,
she's not Catholic.
I don't think she's by name on anything.
Yeah.
Her mom was Catholic or something.
I don't know.
I mean, Catholics believe in the Bible.
Yeah.
They don't believe it's a book.
They actually believe in hell.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
So she can't be Catholic.
She may just say it in name only like you're saying.
Like, yeah, her mom and grandma was Catholic and it's like a family thing.
Oh, so you know who I'm talking about.
I think I do.
But I think that's what it is.
Okay.
I obviously understand why they are confused.
They don't know what to believe.
Well, they're young.
They're little.
Yeah, you're probably right.
And I encourage them to pray about it and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to them
instead of listening to what people believe.
What advice could you give us to be able to guide them in the right direction?
So I'm going to answer this question, but I also
am going to have the peanut gallery because it just so happens that I've had, I have two peanut
gallery individuals that kind of have blended families. And I don't know what that's like.
Like me and Vanessa don't, but Sarah and Tracy do. And maybe Tracy do or do not have anything you can say because I don't know.
But I know you do.
Yeah, for sure.
Hell on earth.
To put it lightly.
Yeah.
Nicely, too.
Nicely, too, yeah.
So I personally, I hate seeing this for people.
I hate seeing it for you.
I didn't, now that Tracy's kids are grown, Sarah's daughter is grown.
It's a little bit easier once they get grown to a certain extent.
But when they're little like this, they're innocent.
They're dependent on us.
And for me, it breaks my heart that children are torn like
this and it's not and sometimes in like Tracy's case and in Sarah's case uh it really wasn't
their doing it just life and so I don't know what your situation is but sometimes like if somebody
cheats on somebody well it kind of like put you in a bad position because
you're like, that wasn't an option that you chose. And so now you have to deal with the
ramifications of somebody else's bad decisions. Right. So I feel bad for that. But first and
foremost, what I would do right now, and I'm not kidding you when I say this, I would never, ever,
ever let my children be in the presence of my mother or your mother or their grandmother
without you present. Ever again. Never again. She should have no influence on them whatsoever.
It is our job to guard our children's hearts. every seed that is planted you don't want to be
picking you know pulling it up it'd be far better for your mom to stop communicating with you
because she's so angry and mad at you because you won't let her your children spend time alone with
her but what do we do it's like today my our dog uh was bad So what do we do?
We put the dog in the bathroom and put him in timeout
so that he learns, like, you ain't doing that.
And that's what your mom needs.
She needs timeout.
Those are your kids, not her kids.
She has no rights to tell them what she believes
and what she doesn't believe.
She toes the line or she doesn't see them.
And that's the way it is.
They're your kids. They're the only things that you can take doesn't see them. And that's the way it is. They're your
kids. They're the only things that you can take to heaven with you. And it's that serious. So
choose them over a relationship with your mother. And if your mom can't handle that,
that's her problem. But seriously, Proverbs 4.23 says, above all else, guard your heart for
everything you do flows from it. You're to guard yours, but you're to guard theirs.
And you can't do that with their kids, with, I mean, the kid's dad,
because he has rights to see them, which sucks bad,
because that would be, I mean, there would be no problem whatsoever
if you could eliminate him from the equation.
But like, well, I'll go to you guys really quick.
I mean, life would have been way easier if you didn't have to deal with the exes and their influence.
Correct. And to this day, the exes are still have some kind of influence.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And you can't guard their heart anymore because they're adults. But and after a certain age, you can't guard them ex and his family went to a Christian church.
So there was never this like drastic difference in belief.
Like Jewish and Christian. Right, exactly.
But it was an arch church, or it is an arch church, I should say.
Very permissive.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so I think, and for a while they weren't going to church.
But when the girls were really little, ours wasn't really like a religious thing that was an issue.
It was the hypocrisy that like they are, well, I guess it is.
That's deadly.
Right.
So they're going to church, but they're acting like hypocrites.
So the cool thing for me is coming to this church and Pastor Tom even being a cop at one point, it's very similar to
my situation. So the girls would sit there and listen to Pastor Tom say something and basically
explain why they're acting the way they are and that that isn't biblical and that's not godly.
And so they actually, it wasn't just coming from me. It was actually coming from their pastor as
well. So God, I don't know. I truly believe that prayer is very, very powerful. And so I've always prayed for my
girls to have a level of protection over them. And I've always told myself they're on a missions
trip and God, like God's their dad. And honestly, the first time I got laid out in the spirit,
God told me like, you think you're a mama bear, but I'm their dad. And so for me, that was like, oh, okay. Cause it's hard. You want to control everything they
do and you want to protect them. And you literally can't like, I mean, obviously with a mom, with
grandma, you can, but with their dad, there is legal rights. And so that's where you're going
to have like a crazy level of faith. Um, did you them before? One of my pieces of advice is,
and so it'll validate whether what I'm saying is true.
I still think you should,
but whether she did it or not,
but then you might be able to say,
pray with them before they leave
and pray when they get back.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yes, we prayed a lot.
We prayed a lot, yes.
And while they are there,
we prayed continuously.
Yes, we prayed all the time.
It was a very consistent thing.
I think prayer is, you saying that, prayer is so powerful.
I know.
It's like when Tom first got saved and people were speaking in tongues,
he was Catholic.
It scared the crap out of him to go into this Pentecostal church
because he was like, but he wanted to go back so bad.
And then they'd speak in tongues.
And the Holy Spirit's so good because it will protect you.
And he thought they were speaking in Spanish.
Otherwise, he probably would have bolted.
Right.
Right.
And the first time the pastor says, anybody want the Holy Spirit?
He went up because he didn't know.
So that's when he got filled with tongues.
But he didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the Holy Spirit will guard and protect, especially if you're praying,
guard and protect.
And the things that they should see, they won't.
Right.
And that's what it is.
It's the same thing.
It absolutely is that.
And, yeah, you have to know your authority over your kids.
Like, you have a level of the – the, you just, you have the Holy Spirit
living inside of you, the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. So when you pray for your
kids to have a level of protection, they do. And if you don't live in hypocrisy and you literally
live like the Bible, your kids, even at their young age are going to see the difference and
they're going to choose your lifestyle and the way that you live over what other people are
sitting there and saying, you know, they're like, oh, the devil the way that you live over what other people are sitting there and saying.
They're like, oh, the devil's not real, the devil's not real.
But the problem is that they're going to live a certain way
that it's going to prove that the devil is real.
And they're going to be drinking and they're going to be gossiping
and they're going to be doing all these things.
I'm like, oh, my mom never does that.
I always feel really good around my mom.
And grandma always does this.
They're smart. And they're smart.
Kids are super smart.
Yeah.
Where's peace?
Where's comfort?
Exactly.
Where's calm?
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Sarah?
So my situation was a little bit different because my ex didn't have a lot to do with her unless it was pretty much supervised because of his issues that he had. And he was also super terrified of me.
But you weren't supervising, correct?
No, well.
It was somebody else.
So you had to trust those people.
I mean, it's still not.
Well, it was his parents who are Bible-believing.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah.
So they, to this day, will still like every Monday,
they send her a Bible verse.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
So it was definitely different.
But I think that my confidence and knowing that I was her mother and that I had that went so far.
There's that verse in, I think it's Hebrews 1035 that says, don't cast away your confidence for it has a great reward.
Yeah. I think it's Hebrews 1035 that says, don't cast away your confidence for it has a great reward. I was so confident in, and I wasn't even always living right,
but I was, I knew like I'm her mom and what I am doing is,
and plus Derek and I married when Taylor was like two.
So that's her dad.
Like when she gets walked down the aisle, when she gets married,
like that's who's going to do it.
You know, they have a relationship.
They text each other and talk and stuff, too.
So as a stepfather, he he came in and that's really.
But the other thing is and it's kind of along the lines that Tracy was talking about, is that the power that you have on the inside of you.
And I know that you maybe talk to your kids about
Jesus, but, and that's good because we have to teach them, but also having the power of the
Holy Spirit and watching, like healing when somebody's sick and having miracles in your
home and things like that. Like you can't deny that. That's just real. And so the Holy Spirit will cover you.
And yeah, pray for him.
And there's a lot of Jewish people that get saved too.
Oh, yeah.
Because if they are really truly Jewish
and they like know the Torah
and they're in the Old Testament,
like there's 300 prophecies about Jesus.
And so the Holy Spirit can come in and
snatch him up too, you know? Exactly. Now what I would say, and I'm going to add two other things
to that. One is what they said. I'm going to add two things that I think you need to do. One is,
I think you need to make sure that every night that your children are with you, you spend time
in the word. The word does not return void. They need to be grounded in the word.
They need to understand why they believe what they believe
so that when somebody tries to tell them,
like your ex-husband, there's no such thing as,
or he doesn't want to talk about Jesus,
or he won't allow him to talk about Jesus,
or you're not around and just so happens your mom
tries to say that the
Bible is just a book or there's no hell. If you teach them the word of God, again, it doesn't
return void, but it's seeds that are planted and it gets so deep that when anybody tries to tell
them something that's not true or real, they will have it so ingrained in them. They'll sit there
and go, I don't believe you
because you know what? I've read something different. And your kids are young. So if they
come to this church, then they got an action Bible, which you think you know who it is.
So they have an action Bible. You start out with that. Okay. Something they can clearly understand.
But in my parents did this with me a lot growing up. Almost when I was very young,
very consistently, every single night we would have Bible time. And my mom, we had a children's
Bible, but every night my parents, we read in it and then we talked about it. And the Action Bible is so simple and so easy for them to understand that,
and it's entertaining.
So I would take that Action Bible, and I would spend a good 10 minutes
reading something in there and talking about it with them.
Anything over than that, anything more than 10, 15 minutes,
you're going to lose them.
They're going to be bored's it's sad to say but all you
need is 10 to 15 minutes of just going oh you're so reading it and then going
over it with them and maybe you need to study it out before you you know when
when you before you read it maybe you need to study out a little bit before
you read it what you're gonna what you're gonna read that night so that you
can give them a little bit more detail and speak more into them
so that they understand more deeply
than what the Action Bible is talking about.
That's what my dad did.
My mom would read it, and my dad would say,
okay, this is what it's saying, this is what happened,
and then he would have more in-depth knowledge
and information about it, which made us go like,
oh, wow, okay.
So ingrain them in the word so that it's like,
it's what they call hermeneutics, right?
If you understand and it's apologetics, those two things,
you learn those two things.
And I taught it when I did kids' church.
I taught apologetics and hermeneutics.
I taught it specifically because I knew at some point these kids would have to go to high school or they would go to college.
And what do they try and do in both of those places?
Remove Jesus.
Try to make you believe everything the Bible says is not real and is not true.
You know those two subjects or you study those two subjects out.
What makes Genesis alone, Genesis alone,
Genesis alone, and we, we, we never teach it and we never really learn it, right? But if it really
all starts there with apologetics, especially if you understand Genesis, then no one can take
the word away from you. You know, that one book right there, it totally will make somebody resolute in knowing
they know the word of God. So just one book, but then you can take all the rest of it and then
build from there. Study the word, teach them the word, and you won't have to worry about them
at all. The next thing I would tell you is if you are not filled with tongues, you need to get it.
This is spiritual warfare that you're going through right now.
And you need to wage war in the heavenlies for your kids every time they leave your presence.
And that doesn't mean just when they're at your ex-husbands or anywhere else.
Something is always trying to get our kids wherever they go.
If your kids go to school, trust me, something's going to be trying to get them and snatch
them and snatch the word from them.
OK, I'm not trying to say snatch them and kidnap them.
I mean, snatch what you're doing with them.
Biblically speaking, snatch that innocence, that purity away from them.
So if you do not have the gift of tongues
or your heavenly language, you need to get it like yesterday. It's imperative. Did you speak
in tongues when your kids were going away, Tracy? Did you pray over them in your tongues?
Not to the degree I have in like the recent years.
Did you wish you had?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trace, Sarah.
Yeah, you said you were saved, but I don't know how.
I was not.
I wasn't praying in tongues.
Because you didn't know it?
Yeah.
I mean, I was 19 when I got filled and then I didn't use it again until she was probably, well, maybe I guess I did
because back in the early 2000s. Yeah. So when she was little, little, she had to go. I did,
I did have my prayer language. I do remember praying over all my kids.
There's something about it. There's a power. There's a boldness. There's a, like you pray in
your prayer language and there's just a peace that comes over you would you not agree oh my gosh absolutely that's what happened when um kylie was in that
recent car accident i went to bed praying in tongues and i'm like if i stay up that means i
don't trust that god's going to take care of her like i had that thought went to bed falling asleep
praying in my prayer language and woke up to a phone a phone call that she was in a car accident. And so like, we can't, we, we have no, like, as they get older, like, I think people think that
it's so hard when they're young and like, there's, you know what I mean? And then they get older and
they're like, you don't even like, you don't think about it when they're so little and they're under
your control for so long. And then all of a sudden, like they're not. And like, how much do
you control them? You know? So anyways, I'm, I'm so thankful that I can pray and like they're not and like how much do you control them you know so anyways i'm i'm so
thankful that i can pray and like find a peace in that prayer and know that god is my sustainer
you know yeah because before you know it they're 25 right and 23 and how old are you sarah how old
is is taylor taylor's 23 and trace is 20 there go. They're out of the house. They're doing their own thing.
You just got to believe that you did all that was right.
And if you didn't do everything right, which, hello, would be me,
that God can fix it.
Right.
Absolutely.
And that he's faithful.
Right.
He's faithful and just.
Every time.
And he will.
But they're still small.
Yeah.
And you still got a lot of control.
Limited when they're at your exes.
But listen, you don't have to be there.
You can seek the Holy Spirit.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
That's way better than you.
Absolutely.
All day long.
And then you walk in peace and comfort.
You just wage war in the heavenlies.
Yeah.
You do that spiritual warfare and you're ahead of the game.
But again, tongues is the key. Absolutely. the heavenlies yeah you do that spiritual warfare and you're ahead of the game yeah but again tongues
is the key absolutely so if you don't have tongues and if you come to this church and you don't get
it before dare to be make sure you're there because we'll make sure you get it that's huge
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And so for me, I'll give a Christian business all day long,
especially one that's a tither, because I know that watch out.
Like I'm a tither, and if they're a tither then only good things can happen so if you give
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A lot of people don't realize that.
We as Christians, we're to favor
and honor one another. That's what the word
says. Absolutely. And instead
we get jealous,
envious, and... Or take advantage.
Like when you get like a Christian
businessman, you're like, oh, what deal are you going to cut
on me? Because they're Christian. And then when they don't give you a Christian businessman, you're like, oh, what deal are you going to cut on me? Because they're Christian.
And then when they don't give you a break, then you're mad.
I know.
And that's ridiculous.
Like, why would we want to take money from our, like, if you're going to give the worldly people it, like, might as well give your people it.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, the full amount.
And of course, like.
A workman is worth its wage.
100%.
I have to tell, when people do stuff in this church a lot that is very kind and very sweet,
and some of them are like, don't pay me anything at all.
I mean, we have some phenomenal people that are willing to do things for free.
But then there are people that, like, this is their livelihood.
This is how they make their living right and you'll pay them and they'll be like oh well and you a workman is worth its wage that's
what i always say i send them the scripture because you shouldn't feel guilty about taking
what you what you've rightfully earned just because you work for a church doesn't mean you
should work for free right jeff always says don't muzzle the ox that treads the grain.
Yeah.
There you go.
Every time.
Every time.
And listen, too.
If somebody makes a mistake that you hired that's a believer, if something happens, I
would say to you, do you get it right every time?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you not, on your job, have you not made a mistake?
Right.
I don't know. Yeah. I mean, nobody gets it every single time. And that's where grace and mercy apply. Absolutely. There's
something to be said for mercy. Right. You make a really good point. Like if they're a believer
and they're they're walking in the favor of the Lord, like I want some of that. Yeah. You know
what I mean? Absolutely. Right.
All the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. My advice to people when they hire people like in church,
like I'm like,
if you're going to get offended in any way,
shape or form,
don't even do it.
Just stick to the world because it's not worth ruining a relationship with
somebody in the church to give them like to help them financially.
You might as well just like separate because I've seen that happen so many times where I'm like, yeah, but you would like, just like, like, to help them financially. You might as well just, like, separate because I've seen that happen so many times.
Yeah.
Where I'm like, yeah, but you would, like, just let go.
Like, pretend you're family.
If your family did it, you would let go of it.
You wouldn't be upset.
You would for a second.
You'd talk about it, like the Bible tells,
bring it to each other, and then move on.
Like you would with any family.
That's not what happens.
It doesn't.
I know.
So don't even do it.
Don't even dabble.
And then they talk bad about the person with many people cause rifts.
It's just terrible.
I know.
You reap and you sow.
Yep.
Yep.
Just remember that.
I hope you're ready to reap what you're sowing.
Most people love the sowing part.
They do not like the reaping part.
Yeah.
The harvest is coming, though.
Yeah.
Always. Enjoy. It won't taste coming, though. Yeah. Always.
Enjoy.
It won't taste good, though.
I can promise.
It's bitter.
Yep.
Next question.
I have sinned against someone.
This is, this follows suit into something.
I changed this question a little bit, even though it's still theirs, but it was very
long, and so I kind of, of like shortened it, but it says,
I have sinned against some, they'll still know who they are, I think.
Okay.
Because, but I just, it was very long.
So I had to take stuff out.
I have sinned against someone and have apologized and asked them for forgiveness
and repented and asked the Lord for forgiveness.
They want nothing to do with me and have asked that I do not contact them ever again.
I have stopped all communication and believe that God will repair this relationship very soon,
but it will take time.
The problem is, is we go to some of the same places
and have to see each other,
and since they have made it clear
they want nothing to do with me, I give them space.
Is that the correct approach?
Do I keep trying or leave it alone
and let God handle it moving forward?
Well, okay.
Depending on how you send, well, I mean, outside of murder,
are robbing them, like where they don't feel like they can trust you
in their home or whatever.
I mean, depending on the level, if it's something,
and some people would say, give me some things, girls,
like people should forgive.
I mean, thievery, I'm like, I can forgive thievery.
You're just not going to come in my house where you can rob from me again.
Right.
Right?
Until we gain trust.
But I would still forgive that.
Yeah.
We just have to be very careful.
Like, you murder somebody, I probably can forgive that.
But, no, I would absolutely forgive it.
But to the degree of, like, I don't want you chopping my head off.
Right.
So, hello.
Fair.
Definitely fair.
We might limit and have some distance between us. Right. And a restraining order. Definitely fair. We might limit and have some distance between us.
Right.
And a restraining order.
Just saying.
But I can forgive you.
Okay.
But, like, if you lied about somebody, if, what are some things?
Gossiping.
Gossiping.
Yeah, stealing.
Offensiveness.
Offensive.
No, what's other things people what could what could this person
have done to cause this that maybe they should that the other person should give for give them
forgiveness for um yeah i mean like because they're seeing each other yeah yeah like if well
and that's uncomfortable right being in the same place or places. Like, who knows?
Maybe they go to the same dance place.
Their kids do dance together or something, and then you have to go and be in the same room as them.
That's uncomfortable.
Absolutely.
Been there, done that.
And this person's asked for forgiveness.
No, but stealing could be anything.
Stealing a husband, stealing, you know, a job, job, you know, opportunity.
So stealing, definitely gossiping, lying, you know, they're all.
It's probably one of those things, you know, I mean, stealing a husband, though.
It's pretty bad.
Then you have to go to the same teacher conferences.
And I mean, forgiveness has to be there.
Absolutely.
Right.
And it was. Listen, I would I'm going to be there absolutely right and it was listen I would I'm gonna be
honest with you yeah this is this is if I wasn't saved if that was me listen and somebody and some
woman cheated and took my husband yeah listen I would do everything in my power to look as hot as I possibly could.
Yeah.
Get him in bed, take pictures and send them to her.
Wow.
Unsaved hope.
Unsaved hope.
Okay.
Unsaved hope.
I love that.
Listen, what's good for the goose.
What's good for the goose is good for the game.
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
That's a plot.
I think it's called a revenge body.
Yeah.
I'm not saved.
There's like a whole show.
I'm okay with that.
I'm not saved.
I'm totally fine with that.
I will do everything in my power to pay you back.
Yeah.
Which the unsaved hope probably did do that.
Let's say that you're saved.
Thank God hope is saved. I i'm not kidding somebody takes my husband
yeah oh i know no not happening what about like gossip venting like venting about a family member
to somebody else oh what about that like i did like yeah are you talking about like what i did
my family yeah um like that well see it's been done to me and my family i Yeah. Like that. Well, see,
it's been done to me
and my family.
I mean,
I think every family,
I don't know of anybody,
I mean,
even in Tom's family
this has happened
where family members
have gossiped about us.
Yeah.
And
it wasn't nice.
And
I did it in my family.
My family,
there were family members
that did it about me.
Satan loves nothing more than to ruin families.
And so for me, I sit there and say,
if it's family like it was in mine,
or like close friends that are like family,
do you know what I'm saying?
Like maybe this person was a close friend or something.
Yeah.
Um,
I'm not saying it's water under the bridge,
but I would say I would not give Satan one inch.
Not one inch.
Cause Satan's loving that you guys are divided apart.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
He's having a flipping field day.
Right.
And if you said you're sorry, well, maybe you need to, like,
like I had to prove myself.
Okay.
And my brother was very angry for a very long time,
and then his regret is time has, time has, we lost time.
And then my regret was I ever said what I said.
So both of us had regret in it.
Because the longer you stay apart, there's nothing, there's absolutely almost,
there is almost nothing that should keep close friendships. There's not one friend.
There's not one very, very, very close friend that I have a long lasting relationship with
that may have gone like this. And it's usually over COVID to be perfectly honest. Or
they went a very, I can think of another friend that, that gossiped about Tom and me, Tom and I, and this is before COVID.
But they were going, not even the arc way, they were just going very liberal, like anything goes in their Christian walk.
Like they left and went to a church where everything's permissible.
Almost sexuality is totally okay,ity is totally okay like 100 okay um the pastor's apologizing for the church
uh not embracing and accepting homosexuals well even that relation those people we still talk to
them and they because my hope is is that we can get them back.
I mean, Satan would love nothing more than to keep them confused.
Right.
So for me, I sit there and say, listen, if, if it's, if, if, if you have apologized, pray
for reconciliation, pray that at some point you guys run it into each other.
And I would kind of of i wouldn't keep forcing
my i didn't force myself down my brother's throat and listen we had to go to plenty of functions
i was always very nice to him um and when he was cold i just was like leave him alone let him have
space but i prayed diligently for restoration or and i I wanted restoration, but God has to be a part of it.
And,
um,
if you're truly sorry,
like I would love to say like,
that was the only time I ever did it,
but sometimes you're stupid and you do,
you repeat bad behavior more than once.
And that,
that's been me.
I like,
I told you guys I'm transparent.
I was a gossip.
And so I would love to say it happened once. It didn't happen once. But the thing is, is
I did change and I was very remorseful and I had to prove that. But my brother had to be open for
me to prove it to him. And sometimes the person has to take the chance of being hurt again by you, which is a little bit of a risk, but only through your showing, only
through showing that you're truly remorseful and that you've truly changed will show them whether
or not they're willing to take the risk of forgiving you. But you can't get back time. So the longer they don't
fix this with you, the longer time is lost. And maybe they're okay with that. But if they're a
Christian, they shouldn't be. Because we should always, always, always. Now, we should always be wanting, we should never want Satan to get a foothold.
We should always be wanting reconciliation. And sometimes with that reconciliation is maybe this
person says to you, listen, I see you say you're sorry. I am concerned and I trust the level of
sincerity. But you know what?
Through time, let's try and fix this.
And you prove yourself.
And not that they have to like grovel or something like that,
but they need to see like I had to prove myself. Like I wasn't going to talk about my brother anymore.
And so you prove yourself and the sincerity of the,
and the remorsefulness of the apology will prove itself in their full restoration.
Because listen, I'm just telling you, Satan loves it.
He's having a field day.
But you can't force somebody to forgive you.
You just can't force somebody to forgive you. You just can't.
But you can sit God on them as far as,
and I mean sit God on them in a very positive light,
meaning just asking the Lord to reveal to them how much you sincerely are sorry.
He'll reveal it to them.
And then they'll see whether it's true or not.
And then restoration can happen.
Girls, do you want to add anything to that?
Yeah, no, that was really good.
I agree that like it's you do your part as much as you can.
If they want nothing to do with you, you can't force yourself.
So you do your part.
You make sure with God, he says you've done everything.
Once God says you've done everything, then that's it.
But always wait for an opportunity to bring restoration.
And sometimes it doesn't look like the same as before. And that might be a good thing,
level of protection. Sometimes when people are starting to go a different direction,
like God protects you too. So you do your part. Yeah. But I can tell you this, like with any
relationship, and I'm sure a lot of us can understand or can relate to this, what I'm
about to say, but sometimes it's better than when you reconcile.
It was way better than it was before.
Yeah, absolutely.
It was, you know, and that's how it was with me and my brother.
Like, it was, our relationship is way better than it was before all of that.
So there's, like Romans 8, 28, he'll work all things together for your good.
Like whatever was bad, he'll take it
because he knows Satan's loving this,
but he'll turn it around and work it for your good
for both parties.
Yes.
Yep.
I agree.
Like do your part and pray for them
and then rest in it.
Don't toil.
Don't like be anxious about it.
Don't let this like steal your peace and joy.
Yeah, but I would say also to the person that's been gossiped about,
because I know what that's like,
understand where they understand their side of it
so that you don't harbor any resentment towards them
through the process of them not forgiving,
because that's not fair either.
Because they have to work it out, too.
I had to work through some things to get to the other side.
And I'm sure my brother did, too.
He just took way too long.
Go ahead.
That was it.
Just lay it down, pray in the Spirit,
ask for an open door, and then just rest in it.
Don't toil for it.
Right, exactly.
That's good work.
Sarah?
Sarah's always got something.
What Vanessa just said.
That's it?
Yeah.
She took the words right out of my mouth.
What a chord.
Sarah's on day number nine of a fast,
so I don't know if her brain's working like normal.
No, she's saying no.
She's got clarity, though.
She'll be good.
She's like, chill.
Chill, Sarah.
That's right.
Drink some more water, Sarah.
Drink some more water.
What is it?
Cheers.
Cheers.
I think that's it.
Yeah.
That's good.
I think that's it. Yeah. That's good. I think that's it.
I'm going to do one more because I'm going to end on a high note.
Okay.
Because that one makes me sad.
Okay.
It's Friday.
Let's go on a high note.
I didn't like it when I was in like, I feel bad for people when it's like that for them.
It does.
It's hard.
Especially when you're in the same situation. I feel bad for both people,
but I really feel bad for this person
because they seem like they really want
to make everything
back. You know what I'm saying?
I do.
I feel bad for them. I mean, obviously
I've been a victim of it.
That ain't fun.
But it's not fun to be the one
that's pursuing too.
I know.
So let's end on a high note.
Okay.
If you could choose a different first name for yourself, what would it be?
That's hard.
I would not change my name.
I would not change my name.
I love my name.
I love your name too.
I just, I thought about like what names do I really love?
I don't love any name but mine.
I feel like I wouldn't, I would be, I'm like, okay, I'm 57,
so maybe that has something to do with it.
Like, that's all I've known.
But it'd be weird to have a different name.
Wow.
I agree.
It changes who you are.
Yeah.
Kind of.
Yeah, I feel like I'm me.
That's me.
Not that I bring hope to the world but i'm just
saying you do i feel like hotline do you know what i'm saying i do i do what about you would
you have a different name no have you ever liked it i have my name is only hope i have no middle
name nothing what no that's it's just hope oh wait maybe i did i think i've learned that before
i don't have any other name just hope Hope. No middle name. Like Madonna.
My sister's, the only person in the family that has a middle name out of the kids is my older sister.
The rest of us, it's just, I'm just like Cher.
Just Cher.
Just Hope.
That's amazing.
My name was supposed to be Lindsay.
And then my parents said it so much.
That they hated it?
They hated it.
She does look like a Lindsay.
So maybe I would pick Lindsay.
You kind of do look like a Lindsay.
I'm not going to kid you.
See?
Yeah, that could have worked.
Okay.
But I think I like Tracy way better.
I know.
I can't change my name, but we have a lot of people in the chat.
So once we go through our peanut gallery, we'll start saying the names.
Oh, yeah.
I want to know what they said.
Okay.
Okay, Talia, you wouldn't change your name?
I don't think so.
But if I did, it would probably be like Italiana.
Like longer.
Yeah.
With Tal in it.
It still would have Tal in it.
Yeah, it's still Italiana.
I like that.
Maybe you need to name your kid that.
Maybe.
So your name's in it. Yeah. It's a girl. Yes. So it's kind to name your kid that. Maybe. So your name's in it.
Yeah.
It's a girl.
Yes.
So it's kind of like your namesake.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, that's a really great idea.
I've always loved it.
It's very pretty.
Yeah.
But I don't think Talia, I don't even know where your mother got that.
I think I could be wrong, but a waitress, her name tag said it.
Wow.
And she's like, I'll name her that.
That's cute. Your mother. That's cute. I know. She's watching. God bless it. And she's like, I'll name her that. That's cute.
Your mother.
I know.
She's watching.
God bless it.
She is.
She's watching today.
She's in the chat.
I was once called
Veronica
at the door.
What?
Yeah.
While I was greeting.
Yeah.
And I was like,
you know what?
I've never met
a boring Veronica.
Oh, yeah.
No.
I know Veronica.
She's a hoot.
I would want to be Veronica, and it sounds so good in Spanish too.
Veronica.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I think I could do it.
Yeah.
And it's baby.
You'd still be baby.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So my mom said on a sign in a store, then a waitress confirmed.
Oh.
It was meant to be.
Gotta love me some Courtney.
That's my girl.
Yep.
Sarah?
I wouldn't change my name.
I mean, we're not changing your name.
No.
I just, I don't think that.
I just don't.
You don't have time for it.
Although, you know, in the Bible, God does it a lot.
He changes people's names
a lot
yeah
I know
so if I had to
ugh
cause names were so important
then
yeah
seriously
um
I really
when I was
growing up
you know like
when you're a teenager
you're like
I hate my name
oh my gosh
this is so dumb
why'd you give me this name
um
I wanted to be Renee
oh
I had a Renee
but then I had a Renee.
But then I met a Renee and I was like, never mind.
I don't want that name.
That's how it, like when you're naming your kids.
And when you're a teacher, that messes you up real bad.
Cause you're like, oh, I love that name.
Oh, nevermind.
That one kid that picked his nose and wiped it on the,
nope, he was named that. No, we went, you're looking, for us, it was super easy because we just named our kids after parents and stuff.
But if I had to have, I would have vetoed a lot of names.
Yeah.
I didn't like that person.
Yeah. Right.
Does anybody in the chat have a name that they wish they would have?
Do you want to read Natalie's?
Me?
Natalie?
Natalie has her name, but it's her middle name she just confirmed.
Randolin?
Randolin.
That's what she would say.
That's her middle name.
So she would have chosen that.
I've never heard of that name.
I know.
I've never heard of that name before.
Jer said he would change his name to Brock.
Or Thor.
Or Hulk Hogan.
Or Murdoch.
Oh my gosh.
Or Logan.
Or True.
The thing is, Jer has identity crisis when it comes to names.
He's been named Jerry.
Yeah, he pitches on it. He's been named Jerry.
He's been named, exactly, J-R.
And then he changed his name to Jer.
So he changes his name like every
10 years. So one of these names might
actually be... Jer, it's about
time. Maybe Brock.
Yeah, okay.
I don't think so.
I feel like he would have to be on a soap opera
or a,
one of those,
uh,
like,
um,
dynasty,
like the old,
like Dallas.
That sounds like one of those old soap opera.
Yeah,
it does.
It does.
It kind of looks like a Stefan.
Sounds like Brock sounds like a porn star to me too.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Not Brock.
Okay. I mean, unless you want to be a porn star, then okay.. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, not Brock. Okay.
I mean, unless you want to be a porn star.
Then okay.
I mean, I don't know.
Sarah, I need you to read Naz's, please.
Please read hers.
I can't.
Mikkelzadek?
That's Naz's.
She said kidding, not kidding.
She's serious.
Is it like Mikkelzadek in the church?
Yeah.
The priest?
The priest of Mikkelzadek?
Yeah. Yeah. Or Melk Mechizedek? Yeah.
Or Melchizedek.
Mel.
Melchizedek.
Melchizedek.
Oh, Melchizedek.
Yeah, it's M-E-L.
I just started thinking of how it's spelled in the Bible.
It's Melchizedek.
Mel, yeah.
Interesting fact.
Yeah.
Interesting fun fact.
Okay.
Most believe that the priest of Mechizedek was actually Jesus.
What?
I've heard that.
When I read it, I looked into it because I thought that was like my first gut reaction.
Is this Jesus?
Yeah.
Old Testament.
Well, it wasn't his first on the scenes thing because obviously, you know, he was there when the world began but he formed the world with
his word but yeah interesting anybody else so my dad wanted to name if my mom was that is your mom
saying this yes my dad wanted to name him cross a feature who cross a feature cross a feature
michael wanted to name you that if she had a boy oh if they had a boy if they had no they wanted
to name charlotte that actually if it was a boy. Oh, if they had a boy. They wanted to name Charlotte that, actually.
If it was a boy. Cross of each. Okay, listen.
Your husband has no rights to name
anything. That's terrible, and
that's the reason why you had all girls. Oh, my gosh.
Because God was sparing them.
The disease. But my mom
was going to do Michael Angelo if it was.
Oh, my gosh. That is
so your mother.
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh That is so your mother Oh my gosh
Oh my gosh
Listen, I'm just saying
You want to meet
She's probably one of the funniest
I'm not kidding you
Courtney does our kids program
And she is one of the funniest
Females I've ever personally met in my whole life.
Literally.
If you want to have fun, then you bring her on whatever you're doing.
Yeah.
Because you're going to laugh.
You can just sit back and enjoy the show.
Yeah.
Exactly.
100%.
And the way he tried.
You don't need help.
No.
You just watch.
You just watch the show.
I know.
She is the show.
She is the show.
And the way he tried to convince my mom was that he would be nicknamed Cross.
Cross.
Cross Savicchio.
Oh, my God.
Cross Angelo.
No.
That sounds terrible.
Cross Savicchio.
Cross Angelo.
It's like a...
I don't know.
My dad is Italian.
It's like a bad meal.
It's like the name of a really bad meal.
Kayla said something that people can spell because her name is spelled.
I know.
Every time.
I'm like, that's true.
I know.
And that's so easy for me.
I have a sister, but I'm always like Kayla, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla.
Yeah, that's true. Because, I mean, I think about my name. How easy does that get? I know. It that's so easy for me. I have a sister, but I'm always like Kayla, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla. Yeah, that's true.
Because, I mean, I think about my name.
How easy does that get?
I know.
So easy.
So easy.
I loved having only four letters to have to learn to spell my name.
Because, listen, I'm not the brightest crown in the box.
Yeah.
Four letters?
I'm in.
Easy.
Easy peasy.
No middle name either.
I know.
You don't have to learn that.
Better than that. I named my son Joseph, but he's all messed up. I know. You don't have to learn that.
I named my son Joseph, but he's... I know you screwed him, man.
It's J-O-Z-S-E-F.
I know.
When he was in preschool, I was like, what did I do?
Why did you do this?
What did I do?
You're trying to be crafty and creative.
That's what I'm trying to do.
Sorry.
Well, I know.
It's a family name.
That's how you spell it in Hungarian.
Oh, okay.
It's his grandfather's name. And that's how his spell it in Hungarian it's his grandfather's name
and that's how
his grandfather
spells his name
yeah
that makes sense
oh
okay
okay
then you weren't
being crafty
but yeah
it wasn't fun
no
for him
yeah
for him
and then I had Emma
and I was like
four letters
yeah
two of them
are the same
same
we were golden
don't get any better
than that
we were golden
that's so funny.
Anybody else got a name in the chat?
Anne-Marie said Summer, and then she said Bertha, laugh out loud.
I don't know if she meant that.
Summer's pretty, though.
I like that as a girl's name.
I do like that one as a girl's name.
Oh, man.
Angelina, it's her mom's name.
Oh, that's pretty.
Yeah.
I changed my name.
I want to be Summer.
She does like that she does that is
her color palette it is okay you would use autumn instead of autumn by the way if anybody's having
a baby girl anytime soon autumn rain but like rain spelled like a king raining yeah because
i found there was a verse about the autumn rain and I was like
that's a great name
for a girl.
I'm trying to talk
Janelle into it.
Is there anybody pregnant
with a girl that we know?
Janelle but she said no.
No I told her
to name her Talia.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
We're believing for it.
I'm pretty sure
Skylar will not allow that.
Oh.
Sorry Tal.
Well then I'll bribe him.
Then I'll bribe him. Then I'll bribe him.
Not the wrong way of bribery.
Gotta do what you gotta do.
Cindy's is good.
She said anything that doesn't have the word sin in it.
Oh.
That was good.
Amen.
Hey, I can't do it.
Hey.
Oh.
Is that it?
Yeah, that's it.
All right.
That's it.
We're going to see you on Sunday.
Be ready to do some praise and worship.
Vanessa is up there.
She don't want to see a lazy crowd.
That's for sure.
Right.
The fist is coming out.
Oh, my gosh.
Listen, there ain't nothing like, trust me on this one.
I know it for a fact.
There ain't nothing harder than starting a
lawnmower that's dead. And that's just like, some of you guys have had to try to start a lawnmower
that's dead. Okay. That's what you guys are like when you're doing worship and nobody's worshiping.
It's like trying to start a dead lawnmower. You guys are dead. Exactly. So come ready. Yeah.
Prepared.
Right.
Ready to go.
Don't ruin my pictures.
Because nobody wants to be going, brr, brr.
I know.
Your arm starts hurting after a while.
Yeah.
So be ready.
Yeah, and they ruin my pictures and my videos.
So if you could just look like you're enjoying it and really appreciate that.
Put on the habit of praise.
I don't have to cut you out.
Exactly.
Sacrifice of praise.
Sacrifice of praise. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. We'll all love you for it. And start on the ride routes. Sacrifice of praise. Sacrifice of praise.
Thank you for doing that.
And start on the ride there.
Don't fight.
Don't fight on the way to church.
Put on that praise music on the way here.
Build yourself up.
Don't wait until we're
at the church on Sunday morning
to get lived up.
Because you can start doing that even Saturday night.
That's right.
We should just be doing it every day,
but come on.
Yeah.
Just in case you're not.
Yeah.
Start Saturday night.
For the love of Pete and for the worship team.
Do them the favor.
Vanessa's judging you from the stage.
What is that?
Vanessa's judging you from the stage.
Norma's come off going,
Oh my gosh,
that was so hard. I know. I know. She had a great time. She was going, oh my gosh, that was so hard.
I know.
I know.
She had a great time.
She was like, oh my gosh, that was rough.
You can see their faces.
Yeah.
I know.
I believe it.
Bring it.
Bring it.
We'll see you Sunday.
Thanks for tuning in.
If you do not live in the area, then watch us live on Sunday morning.
And she's got it right there for you.
Jeff, he starts at 10.05. Vanessa's got it right there for you. Jeff.
He starts at 10.05.
Vanessa's husband starts at 10.05.
Goes for about 15 minutes.
So you got like a 20 minute window.
If you don't want to listen to the announcements.
Then tune in.
Yeah but he always has like a good word in there.
And so it's like.
But some people.
I know but like you're going to miss the little like nuggets.
I know.
Plus he's funny. Get here on time people, you're going to miss the little like nuggets. I know. Yeah. You know, he's funny.
Get here on time.
Just get, it's the Lord's day.
We're crying out loud.
Get your seat.
I'm ready.
That's right.
No, I'm not saying for people to walk in.
I'll sing online.
No, you can't come late.
Right.
I know.
I know.
I was talking about if you're online.
Yeah.
No, not listen. It know. No. I was talking about if you're online. Yeah, no. Not, listen, it's bad enough we start five minutes, 10.05,
for you guys that are walking into the building.
Literally, we have an influx of people coming in at 10.30.
Yeah.
Shame on you.
It's true.
Shame on you.
Yeah.
God deserves your praise.
So be here.
Be square.
See you later.
Have a great weekend. Bye. Thank you. you