The Hope Hotline - Blended Family & Different Religions | S02-E39 | 06-14-2024

Episode Date: June 15, 2024

Blended Family & Different Religions | S02-E39 | 06-14-2024...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 real talk real talk real talk real talk hello welcome to friday's hope hotline a little I'm sorry. I forgot to put my ear thingy in and I'm trying to rush. They're laughing at me. What? We would never. Because I look ridiculous before the thing came on. Okay. The most professional podcast there is out there. Ever. Right here. Right here, people. Ever. Happy Friday. I hope you have something great that you have planned to do.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm going to dinner tonight, and that's about it. That's all I got. Cool, okay. Going to Tampa. Tampa. Yes, I heard about that. You're going to the place I'm going for my birthday. Where?
Starting point is 00:00:58 What? Some Brazilian steakhouse. Yes. Is that the place where they give you like a... They serve you the eats. Yes. Or you what? They give you this thing with a green top
Starting point is 00:01:08 and a red bottom. And then as long as it has green on your table, they'll just bring you meat after meat after meat. Oh, so you flip
Starting point is 00:01:19 the little... It's like a token. Is it Radizio's? Once you've got the meat sweats, you just flip it over to the red is it called radios i have no idea this is this is a jagger place oh because that's the one we went
Starting point is 00:01:32 to and that's what it is you have like you tell them when you want more meat over your table and they just keep bringing it to you and bringing it to you and they it's like they slice it off of like yeah yeah a huge piece delicious i. I'm going to be eating. I don't know if she's on, but me and Jamie and that crew and then Tommy's coming. Okay. Fun. It's going to be fun. It's like a Lively and Peck dinner.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah. That's fun. We're getting the two families. Finally. I love it. Finally. I'm telling you right now, like, I would think, like, we should do dinner. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And then I would forget. I know. And their life's, like, listen. I know. My life is pretty busy. Theirs is insane. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:23 They got a new business, right? They have so many insane. Yeah. They got a new business, right? They have so many things. Yeah. Like they have so many businesses. They have property. Okay. They have property management. They have his electrical company, electrical business.
Starting point is 00:02:39 They have the acai. Yeah. I mean, they're entrepreneurs. That's cool. So. I love that but i have i have dinner tonight i'm going out on a date with a lot of people i'll take it yeah i never get i mean tom will be um you know what's crazy is uh we were supposed to go to a wedding on uh what day was that tuesday yeah yep we got we got in the car at two o'clock and we didn't even make it to 64. that's insane and we had sat in traffic for over an hour
Starting point is 00:03:15 good old florida so we missed the wedding no yeah yeah we did we were not going to get there until like between 30 and 40 minutes after the wedding had taken place that's terrible two o'clock in the afternoon a semi was hanging off a bridge oh my god that's 64 yeah what is it's not i-64 it's not route 64 it's state road 64 okay yeah i i listen State Road 64 Okay Yeah Listen We were just like Keep the peace people People are idiots They're idiot drivers So I'm hoping
Starting point is 00:03:53 That we will not be late tonight I know Yeah But what are you guys doing? Charlotte has a play tonight Oh yeah Char has a play Where is the play? Punta Gord the play punta gorda punta gorda
Starting point is 00:04:08 punta gorda playhouse uh theater it's a theater yeah oh yeah it's at the event center in the event city charlotte players c-pack yeah it's a c-pack which is like um charlotte high school high school oh okay yeah oh cool what is she uh what's her what's her uh not that you guys care but i am interested in this one of the leads she's one of the leads three or four she's actually a great little actress she's a ham yeah i can see that so listen she's good in a clench like that's why I always have her up there for Christmas when I have little girls sing. She don't care.
Starting point is 00:04:49 She'll do it all by herself. Like one year, poor Brynn, she made it for like two. She gave up on one because she had to perform three different shows or three different Christmas Eve's. She was down for the count on the. Yeah. She was down for the count on the second one. She came back for the third.
Starting point is 00:05:09 She was tired. I know. It was a lot. I mean, but Char does not. Charlotte's like, Charlotte's like, give me the stage.
Starting point is 00:05:16 She's kind of like Sarah. Yeah. Give me the stage. I trained her. You know that. I'm the first one to put a microphone in her hand
Starting point is 00:05:22 and give her a lead role. That is true. What? There it was. The the impartation it wasn't straight up impartation holy mackerel i didn't know that i didn't either then she had me oh yep that's so fun that's crazy she was like six or five she was little and we did shrek the musical. It was the summer of when COVID hit in 2020. And I was like, I need some little ones that can deal fear that will just get up on the stage. And she took that microphone,
Starting point is 00:05:54 had her first little solo, and then the next year she played the lead. Her and Tempest played the Cat in the Hat and JoJo and Seussical. So I'll take some credit for the training. played the cat in the hat and JoJo and Seussical. Yeah. So I'll take some credit for the training of Charlotte. Somebody had to give her a chance.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah. That's awesome. Okay, so you're doing that tonight. Yep. Tracy, what are you doing? No plans yet. No plans. What about you, Vanessa?
Starting point is 00:06:23 You always have something. Well, no. My man is flying in. Oh, yeah, that's in oh he's been in Utah for the last couple days where's he been oh I saw that because I think I liked it Park City yeah Park City been there a few times um he is struggling because of the um elevation it's high he said like like uh going upstairs right now his like his heart is like beating so fast it's just because it's kicking his butt
Starting point is 00:06:49 oh my gosh elevation is yeah for real I know there's like hands of air they hand you no way
Starting point is 00:06:55 it's crazy what oh yeah oh my gosh I had no idea when you go skiing yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 00:07:00 we're going there for Christmas that wasn't a joke yeah that's right we're going there for Christmas we're going there for Christmas am I going with, that's right. It wasn't a joke. Yeah, that's right. We're going there for Christmas. We're going there for Christmas? Am I going with you? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:07 That's right. Good to know. I forgot about that. He's headed back. So after this, I'm picking up Indian food because that's our favorite. Oh, fun. And we're just going to have a little family dinner. Aw.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I've never had Indian food. Oh, it's delicious. Never. My whole life. And now a little dessert. Okay, Sarah. food. Oh, it's delicious. Ever. My whole life. And now a little dessert. Okay, Sarah. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Oh. Nasty. Disgusting. Disgusting. We need like a whole pot line after dark where Talia doesn't have to be privy to these conversations. I don't know how many people would join a whole pot line after dark, but I'm there. I don't know if my husband will allow it, but I'm there.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That'd be funny. That would be nasty. It could be nasty. Could be. Especially if Hope's there. Don't get Logan on. That's true. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He and Logan would be in big trouble. Might get a little ghetto. And a little good. Never know. Vanessa can hang. Yeah. But so can you, Tracy. What am I saying?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Absolutely. I cringe the whole time. Me too. What? I can hang. She might cringe the whole time. Depends what words are said. I don't cuss.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Right. That's true. No, that's said. I don't cuss. Right. That's true. No, that's true. I mean, I get really close. Not cussing. I don't get close to the line on cussing. But I get close to the line on like. Being appropriate.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Inappropriate. Yeah. That's true. Sometimes. Yeah. You never know. That's why we love you. Yep. Yeah. You never know. That's why we love you. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What do you got, Sarah? Then everybody can tell us what they're doing on Rumble. Give us a load down. If somebody's got something good, I want to know about it. Okay. Go ahead. We're having movie night. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Okay. I like that. That's code, though, for something. I've been warming up the crock pot today. Disgusting. We went to do a site survey today, and I was just watching
Starting point is 00:09:16 Derek measure stuff, and I was like, whew. Men being men is pretty hot. So I told him, I was like, whew. Men being men is pretty hot. So I told him, I was like, you weren't really doing anything spectacular, but I liked it a lot. So catch me later.
Starting point is 00:09:35 When Tom was with the sheriff's office, I remember one time we were talking or something. We weren't dating. We were married by this time. And I think Tommy was in the back seat. But he was on duty. And I don't know how I ended up seeing him. But he was on duty. And he got a call.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And he raced off with that siren going. I went. I texted him. That was hot. Oh, my gosh. Now I know why cops get girls. Now your siren is also going. See you later.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That was a blink. Yeah. I'll be seeing you later. Yeah. Seriously. I'm going to schedule a service call. Oh, my gosh. Poor guys.
Starting point is 00:10:27 The poor men watching. Hey, but listen, if you're watching and you're a guy, at least you know how girls think. Well, yeah, Sean just said
Starting point is 00:10:33 I've never heard it. This is the locker room. This is locker room talk right now. True. Sean just said Crock-Pot never heard of that before.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So he's learning something new. Congratulations. Warming up the Crock-Pot. That's what Vanessa says. So we've all stolen. I'm a crock pot. Not microwave.
Starting point is 00:10:49 There ain't no microwave in a woman. Well, maybe Sarah, but there ain't many women that are microwaves. Not many. Air fryer. Is there an air fryer? Tal, you can't have an air fryer right now. There will be no cooking for you.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's the soup not to be no cooking for you. That's the soup not soup. No soup for you. No soup for you. It's not allowed. That's so funny. You're off limits. I'll tell you when you're on limits, sister. And with who?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Okay. To knock it off over there. This is not a cult. Arranged marriages, yes. Cults, no. I mean, who wouldn't? Come on, like arranged marriages. I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:11:32 It's an idea. 90% success rate. See? Arranged marriages. I think it's higher than that. It might be, actually. I think it's like 97 or something ridiculous. So I think I need to talk to the pecs tonight.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Okay. I love Jagger. I know. I do the pecs tonight. I love Jagger. I know. I do too. Who doesn't? I mean, listen, I'm telling you. I love my Tommy. But he could learn a few things from Jagger.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Nobody can beat Jagger. I know. I'm telling you. Such a good guy. I met him. Jeff and Jamie, they did a great job on that boy, that young man. They sure did. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Even when I step out of the car, he, like, grabs my hand. I'm like, where? Where's another? Hey, he has a brother, Jackson. Yes, but I think he has. He has a girlfriend? Well, he's, yeah. He's got his eye on somebody?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Somebody, yeah. But they're probably not the same. They're all good looking kids. I think they're all in relationships. Yeah. Are going to be. I'll do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 So, yeah, people need to take, I don't know what they did. That's interesting. Part of it is partly, I think, is the child. It is. Like Norma is a very, likea is innately a very good person. Tommy takes after me. Innately is not. He's not innately a good person.
Starting point is 00:12:54 He's got to force himself. And even then, it doesn't happen. So, Sarum said her parents were arranged, and they've been together for 45 years. That's amazing. That's wild. I never knew that. I never known anybody who was in an arranged marriage. I knew one of my girlfriends back in my early 20s.
Starting point is 00:13:17 She was dating a, I think it was from Pakistan. Really good looking guy. They were both in love with each other. She's white as white can be. She's a blondie. So she went and passed in the test. And they ended up, his parents made him break up with her.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then like two months later, he was married to another girl because it was an arranged marriage. Are they still together? In my 20s. I have no idea because I'm not friends. I mean, I don't talk to this girl anymore. It was back in my bad days. I know, I do wonder too. Yeah, but he did not want to, he wanted to be with her
Starting point is 00:13:59 and his parents like, no go. This is in like DC. Oh wow. Like this is not like I'm in Pakistan here. Right, right. Right. But like D.C. Oh, wow. Like this is not like I'm in Pakistan here. Right, right, right. But it's so ingrained in their culture. So ingrained. Yeah. It's a melting pot there.
Starting point is 00:14:11 But even though it's a melting pot, like there are still things that that's the way it is. Right. Oh, let's just move that over there. That's yours. So it's pretty weird. It's pretty wild. Yeah. But I've never known somebody personally
Starting point is 00:14:25 me either like that's wild that Sam's parents were that's pretty cool it's great that they're still together 45 years
Starting point is 00:14:33 wow that's crazy I don't think I would do that I would be very rebellious I might run away what's wrong with them? nah
Starting point is 00:14:44 I get to pick who I want to be they have like a matchmaker oh you think so? and they consult I might run away. What's wrong with them? Nah. I get to pick who I want to be. They have like a matchmaker. Oh, you think so? And they consult a matchmaker. And they like arrange personalities. It's very much like. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:14:59 They're involved. That's why it works. It's not two random people. Like they really take time to like pair. Oh, it's not random. I thought it was. No, they take take time to like pair. It's not random. I thought it was. No, they take that time and like pair the right people together. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:08 My thought was that these people aren't happy. They're just together. But like religiously, like they can't break up. Like that's how I always thought it was. But also my thing too is like. I like that better. What my fear would always be like, would I be attracted to that person? Right.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. Well, there's a show that's called Married at First Sight. Love is blind. Well, that one too. That one too. But you don't get married. I'm watching Married at First Sight. Married at First Sight.
Starting point is 00:15:36 They see each other for the first time when they're walking down the aisle. But they have a matchmaker. They have these professional matchmakers. And I don't think that they make it. That's nuts. It's literally nuts. I don't think that they make it. That's nuts. It's literally nuts. There is a few that stayed together. Yeah, there are some that stayed together.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And there's a lot that did not. Because what if you didn't find the person attractive? And that's sometimes the problem. And the other one is like some of them say they're like religious. And then the other ones are like open to religion. But like that is such like if you have any relationship with God and then they are like open to religion but you like that is such like if you have any relationship with god and then they are like open to spirituality like it doesn't work and that has that happened yes did you ever watch it yes somebody was a christian and was willing
Starting point is 00:16:16 to do this yeah yeah yeah because i mean they're not much of a christian exactly so they believe in god they went to church growing up and so that's important to them they want to raise their kids eventually when their kids get like you know they have kids they God. They went to church growing up. And so that's important to them. They want to raise their kids eventually when their kids get like, you know, they have kids, they want them to go to church. So that's their religion is to go to church, you know? So they're open to anybody that's open to spiritual stuff. So then this one girl's like new age, and then she's open to spiritual stuff too. It didn't work. It didn't work. It didn't. Cause he believes morally that certain things are wrong because that's how he was taught biblically you know and hers is like no like
Starting point is 00:16:51 you're your own spiritual being basically so those ones never worked yeah but it's very interesting sarah said something crazy she said put this over here my dad handpicked my mom i was arranged with a doctor from france 10 years older than me and i almost had to run away with adam oh she's literally living a book like life like be like uh telenovela literally i would watch it i would run away too yeah oh i would too yeah i think she told me that story that's's crazy. That's like coming back to me. Okay. That sounds wild. Yeah. That's not cool. No bueno. Yeah. And then Sean had a friend in college and he was an arranged marriage, but he cheated on her and they ended after a couple years. So Sean was in an arranged relationship. No, no. Sean had a friend in college. Yes. Sean. I know Sean. How sean how dare you no it probably
Starting point is 00:17:47 is him no i'm joking you know how people go friend a friend yeah yeah wow that's crazy yeah yeah that's what you do if you end up not liking the person or like being, you just cheat on them. Right. Bye. That'll get you out of it. Well, if you're not married, it's okay. That's it. In my book. I mean, it's definitely an arranged marriage.
Starting point is 00:18:14 If somebody's going to arrange you in a marriage and you're not attracted to them, cheat on them and they'll not want to marry you. That's true. Well, you are married. But you are married.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It's an arranged marriage. But you haven't married them yet. I don't think you see each other, right? What? Yes, you do. But you are married. It's an arranged marriage. But you haven't married him yet. I don't think you see each other, right? What? Yes, you do. You do? Yes. For like a week.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Oh. Yeah, I cheat in that week really quick. Oh my gosh. I would cheat so fast. Well, that's why I know all of this. I know. I mean, you know weird stuff, so I like it. The other day, Sarah knew something about a song which blew my
Starting point is 00:18:45 mind so yeah somehow telepathy and you knew about the dry brushing thing i did and you like everything yeah she just has this weird information in her head yeah it's like all of it is useful yeah well no if you were playing trivia it might work out trivia exactly otherwise now it's the articles otherwise now It's not going to happen. Right. All right. Let's get to it. Sisters.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Let's do it. Do you want me to do the social graphs and all that stuff? Absolutely. All right, let's go. All right. Facebookers. Let's see who we got.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Oh, my husband's on. Hope his hair looks great from my husband. And then he said, my wife is hot. And Talia said, gross. I love the comments.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm fixing my hair without him seeing. I'll pull this up. There you go. So Jer, Rumble, hello. I need to hook you up. I don't even think you have a Rumble account yet. And then Jamie's on. Hey Jamie.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Have fun at dinner tonight. See you in about three hours. She knows you're going to quiz her on the show today so she's like I'm going to hop on I'm just kidding Jamie I'm glad you're on
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Starting point is 00:23:13 we're getting, and it'll be streamed live. Yes. It'll be streamed. Yes. That's so good. So we had, uh,
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Starting point is 00:23:35 Let's do it. We're good? Yep. It says, I hope. I come asking for your advice and some Bible verses to help me and my husband. I have an 11-year-old and an 8-year-old from my first marriage. He is Jewish, completely closed-minded to Christianity.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I am remarried now, and my current husband and I got saved a little over a year ago, and we now have a baby. Praise the Lord. My first two kids seemed to be all in when we decided to change our lifestyle, but now we are seeing doubt in them. After having a long talk, they explained that they feel confused because when they go to their father's house, they are not allowed to talk about Jesus.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And when they are with us, that is basically all we talk about. In addition, my mom is a very lukewarm Christian. She's actually Catholic and believes that I have been brainwashed. So when my kids spend time, spend time in her house, which I'm trying to limit now, she tells them that the devil is not real and that the Bible is just a book. How can you be Catholic?
Starting point is 00:24:34 I know. I know lukewarm, but no, she's not Catholic. I don't think she's by name on anything. Yeah. Her mom was Catholic or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I mean, Catholics believe in the Bible. Yeah. They don't believe it's a book. They actually believe in hell. Right. Oh, yeah. So she can't be Catholic. She may just say it in name only like you're saying.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Like, yeah, her mom and grandma was Catholic and it's like a family thing. Oh, so you know who I'm talking about. I think I do. But I think that's what it is. Okay. I obviously understand why they are confused. They don't know what to believe. Well, they're young.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They're little. Yeah, you're probably right. And I encourage them to pray about it and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth to them instead of listening to what people believe. What advice could you give us to be able to guide them in the right direction? So I'm going to answer this question, but I also am going to have the peanut gallery because it just so happens that I've had, I have two peanut gallery individuals that kind of have blended families. And I don't know what that's like.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Like me and Vanessa don't, but Sarah and Tracy do. And maybe Tracy do or do not have anything you can say because I don't know. But I know you do. Yeah, for sure. Hell on earth. To put it lightly. Yeah. Nicely, too. Nicely, too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So I personally, I hate seeing this for people. I hate seeing it for you. I didn't, now that Tracy's kids are grown, Sarah's daughter is grown. It's a little bit easier once they get grown to a certain extent. But when they're little like this, they're innocent. They're dependent on us. And for me, it breaks my heart that children are torn like this and it's not and sometimes in like Tracy's case and in Sarah's case uh it really wasn't
Starting point is 00:26:34 their doing it just life and so I don't know what your situation is but sometimes like if somebody cheats on somebody well it kind of like put you in a bad position because you're like, that wasn't an option that you chose. And so now you have to deal with the ramifications of somebody else's bad decisions. Right. So I feel bad for that. But first and foremost, what I would do right now, and I'm not kidding you when I say this, I would never, ever, ever let my children be in the presence of my mother or your mother or their grandmother without you present. Ever again. Never again. She should have no influence on them whatsoever. It is our job to guard our children's hearts. every seed that is planted you don't want to be
Starting point is 00:27:27 picking you know pulling it up it'd be far better for your mom to stop communicating with you because she's so angry and mad at you because you won't let her your children spend time alone with her but what do we do it's like today my our dog uh was bad So what do we do? We put the dog in the bathroom and put him in timeout so that he learns, like, you ain't doing that. And that's what your mom needs. She needs timeout. Those are your kids, not her kids.
Starting point is 00:27:57 She has no rights to tell them what she believes and what she doesn't believe. She toes the line or she doesn't see them. And that's the way it is. They're your kids. They're the only things that you can take doesn't see them. And that's the way it is. They're your kids. They're the only things that you can take to heaven with you. And it's that serious. So choose them over a relationship with your mother. And if your mom can't handle that, that's her problem. But seriously, Proverbs 4.23 says, above all else, guard your heart for
Starting point is 00:28:22 everything you do flows from it. You're to guard yours, but you're to guard theirs. And you can't do that with their kids, with, I mean, the kid's dad, because he has rights to see them, which sucks bad, because that would be, I mean, there would be no problem whatsoever if you could eliminate him from the equation. But like, well, I'll go to you guys really quick. I mean, life would have been way easier if you didn't have to deal with the exes and their influence. Correct. And to this day, the exes are still have some kind of influence.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Oh, yeah, absolutely. And you can't guard their heart anymore because they're adults. But and after a certain age, you can't guard them ex and his family went to a Christian church. So there was never this like drastic difference in belief. Like Jewish and Christian. Right, exactly. But it was an arch church, or it is an arch church, I should say. Very permissive. Yeah, absolutely. And so I think, and for a while they weren't going to church.
Starting point is 00:29:45 But when the girls were really little, ours wasn't really like a religious thing that was an issue. It was the hypocrisy that like they are, well, I guess it is. That's deadly. Right. So they're going to church, but they're acting like hypocrites. So the cool thing for me is coming to this church and Pastor Tom even being a cop at one point, it's very similar to my situation. So the girls would sit there and listen to Pastor Tom say something and basically explain why they're acting the way they are and that that isn't biblical and that's not godly.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And so they actually, it wasn't just coming from me. It was actually coming from their pastor as well. So God, I don't know. I truly believe that prayer is very, very powerful. And so I've always prayed for my girls to have a level of protection over them. And I've always told myself they're on a missions trip and God, like God's their dad. And honestly, the first time I got laid out in the spirit, God told me like, you think you're a mama bear, but I'm their dad. And so for me, that was like, oh, okay. Cause it's hard. You want to control everything they do and you want to protect them. And you literally can't like, I mean, obviously with a mom, with grandma, you can, but with their dad, there is legal rights. And so that's where you're going to have like a crazy level of faith. Um, did you them before? One of my pieces of advice is,
Starting point is 00:31:06 and so it'll validate whether what I'm saying is true. I still think you should, but whether she did it or not, but then you might be able to say, pray with them before they leave and pray when they get back. Yeah, absolutely. Yes, we prayed a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:19 We prayed a lot, yes. And while they are there, we prayed continuously. Yes, we prayed all the time. It was a very consistent thing. I think prayer is, you saying that, prayer is so powerful. I know. It's like when Tom first got saved and people were speaking in tongues,
Starting point is 00:31:37 he was Catholic. It scared the crap out of him to go into this Pentecostal church because he was like, but he wanted to go back so bad. And then they'd speak in tongues. And the Holy Spirit's so good because it will protect you. And he thought they were speaking in Spanish. Otherwise, he probably would have bolted. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Right. And the first time the pastor says, anybody want the Holy Spirit? He went up because he didn't know. So that's when he got filled with tongues. But he didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Holy Spirit will guard and protect, especially if you're praying, guard and protect.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And the things that they should see, they won't. Right. And that's what it is. It's the same thing. It absolutely is that. And, yeah, you have to know your authority over your kids. Like, you have a level of the – the, you just, you have the Holy Spirit living inside of you, the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead. So when you pray for your
Starting point is 00:32:31 kids to have a level of protection, they do. And if you don't live in hypocrisy and you literally live like the Bible, your kids, even at their young age are going to see the difference and they're going to choose your lifestyle and the way that you live over what other people are sitting there and saying, you know, they're like, oh, the devil the way that you live over what other people are sitting there and saying. They're like, oh, the devil's not real, the devil's not real. But the problem is that they're going to live a certain way that it's going to prove that the devil is real. And they're going to be drinking and they're going to be gossiping
Starting point is 00:32:58 and they're going to be doing all these things. I'm like, oh, my mom never does that. I always feel really good around my mom. And grandma always does this. They're smart. And they're smart. Kids are super smart. Yeah. Where's peace?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Where's comfort? Exactly. Where's calm? Right. Yeah. Right. Sarah? So my situation was a little bit different because my ex didn't have a lot to do with her unless it was pretty much supervised because of his issues that he had. And he was also super terrified of me.
Starting point is 00:33:27 But you weren't supervising, correct? No, well. It was somebody else. So you had to trust those people. I mean, it's still not. Well, it was his parents who are Bible-believing. Oh, sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:40 So they, to this day, will still like every Monday, they send her a Bible verse. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. So it was definitely different. But I think that my confidence and knowing that I was her mother and that I had that went so far. There's that verse in, I think it's Hebrews 1035 that says, don't cast away your confidence for it has a great reward. Yeah. I think it's Hebrews 1035 that says, don't cast away your confidence for it has a great reward. I was so confident in, and I wasn't even always living right,
Starting point is 00:34:09 but I was, I knew like I'm her mom and what I am doing is, and plus Derek and I married when Taylor was like two. So that's her dad. Like when she gets walked down the aisle, when she gets married, like that's who's going to do it. You know, they have a relationship. They text each other and talk and stuff, too. So as a stepfather, he he came in and that's really.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But the other thing is and it's kind of along the lines that Tracy was talking about, is that the power that you have on the inside of you. And I know that you maybe talk to your kids about Jesus, but, and that's good because we have to teach them, but also having the power of the Holy Spirit and watching, like healing when somebody's sick and having miracles in your home and things like that. Like you can't deny that. That's just real. And so the Holy Spirit will cover you. And yeah, pray for him. And there's a lot of Jewish people that get saved too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Because if they are really truly Jewish and they like know the Torah and they're in the Old Testament, like there's 300 prophecies about Jesus. And so the Holy Spirit can come in and snatch him up too, you know? Exactly. Now what I would say, and I'm going to add two other things to that. One is what they said. I'm going to add two things that I think you need to do. One is, I think you need to make sure that every night that your children are with you, you spend time
Starting point is 00:35:42 in the word. The word does not return void. They need to be grounded in the word. They need to understand why they believe what they believe so that when somebody tries to tell them, like your ex-husband, there's no such thing as, or he doesn't want to talk about Jesus, or he won't allow him to talk about Jesus, or you're not around and just so happens your mom tries to say that the
Starting point is 00:36:05 Bible is just a book or there's no hell. If you teach them the word of God, again, it doesn't return void, but it's seeds that are planted and it gets so deep that when anybody tries to tell them something that's not true or real, they will have it so ingrained in them. They'll sit there and go, I don't believe you because you know what? I've read something different. And your kids are young. So if they come to this church, then they got an action Bible, which you think you know who it is. So they have an action Bible. You start out with that. Okay. Something they can clearly understand. But in my parents did this with me a lot growing up. Almost when I was very young,
Starting point is 00:36:48 very consistently, every single night we would have Bible time. And my mom, we had a children's Bible, but every night my parents, we read in it and then we talked about it. And the Action Bible is so simple and so easy for them to understand that, and it's entertaining. So I would take that Action Bible, and I would spend a good 10 minutes reading something in there and talking about it with them. Anything over than that, anything more than 10, 15 minutes, you're going to lose them. They're going to be bored's it's sad to say but all you
Starting point is 00:37:28 need is 10 to 15 minutes of just going oh you're so reading it and then going over it with them and maybe you need to study it out before you you know when when you before you read it maybe you need to study out a little bit before you read it what you're gonna what you're gonna read that night so that you can give them a little bit more detail and speak more into them so that they understand more deeply than what the Action Bible is talking about. That's what my dad did.
Starting point is 00:37:53 My mom would read it, and my dad would say, okay, this is what it's saying, this is what happened, and then he would have more in-depth knowledge and information about it, which made us go like, oh, wow, okay. So ingrain them in the word so that it's like, it's what they call hermeneutics, right? If you understand and it's apologetics, those two things,
Starting point is 00:38:17 you learn those two things. And I taught it when I did kids' church. I taught apologetics and hermeneutics. I taught it specifically because I knew at some point these kids would have to go to high school or they would go to college. And what do they try and do in both of those places? Remove Jesus. Try to make you believe everything the Bible says is not real and is not true. You know those two subjects or you study those two subjects out.
Starting point is 00:38:43 What makes Genesis alone, Genesis alone, Genesis alone, and we, we, we never teach it and we never really learn it, right? But if it really all starts there with apologetics, especially if you understand Genesis, then no one can take the word away from you. You know, that one book right there, it totally will make somebody resolute in knowing they know the word of God. So just one book, but then you can take all the rest of it and then build from there. Study the word, teach them the word, and you won't have to worry about them at all. The next thing I would tell you is if you are not filled with tongues, you need to get it. This is spiritual warfare that you're going through right now.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And you need to wage war in the heavenlies for your kids every time they leave your presence. And that doesn't mean just when they're at your ex-husbands or anywhere else. Something is always trying to get our kids wherever they go. If your kids go to school, trust me, something's going to be trying to get them and snatch them and snatch the word from them. OK, I'm not trying to say snatch them and kidnap them. I mean, snatch what you're doing with them. Biblically speaking, snatch that innocence, that purity away from them.
Starting point is 00:40:03 So if you do not have the gift of tongues or your heavenly language, you need to get it like yesterday. It's imperative. Did you speak in tongues when your kids were going away, Tracy? Did you pray over them in your tongues? Not to the degree I have in like the recent years. Did you wish you had? Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. Trace, Sarah. Yeah, you said you were saved, but I don't know how. I was not. I wasn't praying in tongues. Because you didn't know it? Yeah. I mean, I was 19 when I got filled and then I didn't use it again until she was probably, well, maybe I guess I did
Starting point is 00:40:46 because back in the early 2000s. Yeah. So when she was little, little, she had to go. I did, I did have my prayer language. I do remember praying over all my kids. There's something about it. There's a power. There's a boldness. There's a, like you pray in your prayer language and there's just a peace that comes over you would you not agree oh my gosh absolutely that's what happened when um kylie was in that recent car accident i went to bed praying in tongues and i'm like if i stay up that means i don't trust that god's going to take care of her like i had that thought went to bed falling asleep praying in my prayer language and woke up to a phone a phone call that she was in a car accident. And so like, we can't, we, we have no, like, as they get older, like, I think people think that it's so hard when they're young and like, there's, you know what I mean? And then they get older and
Starting point is 00:41:33 they're like, you don't even like, you don't think about it when they're so little and they're under your control for so long. And then all of a sudden, like they're not. And like, how much do you control them? You know? So anyways, I'm, I'm so thankful that I can pray and like they're not and like how much do you control them you know so anyways i'm i'm so thankful that i can pray and like find a peace in that prayer and know that god is my sustainer you know yeah because before you know it they're 25 right and 23 and how old are you sarah how old is is taylor taylor's 23 and trace is 20 there go. They're out of the house. They're doing their own thing. You just got to believe that you did all that was right. And if you didn't do everything right, which, hello, would be me,
Starting point is 00:42:13 that God can fix it. Right. Absolutely. And that he's faithful. Right. He's faithful and just. Every time. And he will.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But they're still small. Yeah. And you still got a lot of control. Limited when they're at your exes. But listen, you don't have to be there. You can seek the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That's way better than you. Absolutely. All day long. And then you walk in peace and comfort. You just wage war in the heavenlies. Yeah. You do that spiritual warfare and you're ahead of the game. But again, tongues is the key. Absolutely. the heavenlies yeah you do that spiritual warfare and you're ahead of the game yeah but again tongues
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Starting point is 00:44:22 The best part of all, listen, like we're to favor, as Christians, we're to favor one another, right? So when you have the opportunity to give a Christian business, you should do that. I mean, obviously, lots of people say they're Christians and they're not, okay? Check it out.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You have discernment, check it out. And if it feels right, not feels right in your carnal nature, feels right in your spiritual discernment, then you should give them the business because we are to favor one another. But if you give your business to a believer, the odds are that the favor that they walk in and the favor that you walk in, there's double blessing, double favor. And so for me, I'll give a Christian business all day long, especially one that's a tither, because I know that watch out. Like I'm a tither, and if they're a tither then only good things can happen so if you give her a call tell her that you heard it you heard about her from us the hope hotline and we will
Starting point is 00:45:32 love you for it but seriously for me I always do three quotes I just burped sorry people I give three quotes I get three quotes for almost anything so So in something like this, you might not get a quote, but what you might be able to do is interview. So you interview three different companies, find out which one fits the best for you. And then if they're a Christian, a lot of times let that be the winning choice. If you feel good about all of them,
Starting point is 00:46:01 let them being a believer be the one that wins them out. Cool beans? Yeah, perfect. A lot of people don't realize that. We as Christians, we're to favor and honor one another. That's what the word says. Absolutely. And instead we get jealous, envious, and... Or take advantage.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Like when you get like a Christian businessman, you're like, oh, what deal are you going to cut on me? Because they're Christian. And then when they don't give you a Christian businessman, you're like, oh, what deal are you going to cut on me? Because they're Christian. And then when they don't give you a break, then you're mad. I know. And that's ridiculous. Like, why would we want to take money from our, like, if you're going to give the worldly people it, like, might as well give your people it. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. Like, the full amount. And of course, like. A workman is worth its wage. 100%. I have to tell, when people do stuff in this church a lot that is very kind and very sweet, and some of them are like, don't pay me anything at all. I mean, we have some phenomenal people that are willing to do things for free.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But then there are people that, like, this is their livelihood. This is how they make their living right and you'll pay them and they'll be like oh well and you a workman is worth its wage that's what i always say i send them the scripture because you shouldn't feel guilty about taking what you what you've rightfully earned just because you work for a church doesn't mean you should work for free right jeff always says don't muzzle the ox that treads the grain. Yeah. There you go. Every time.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Every time. And listen, too. If somebody makes a mistake that you hired that's a believer, if something happens, I would say to you, do you get it right every time? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Have you not, on your job, have you not made a mistake?
Starting point is 00:47:44 Right. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, nobody gets it every single time. And that's where grace and mercy apply. Absolutely. There's something to be said for mercy. Right. You make a really good point. Like if they're a believer and they're they're walking in the favor of the Lord, like I want some of that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Right. All the time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah. My advice to people when they hire people like in church, like I'm like, if you're going to get offended in any way, shape or form, don't even do it. Just stick to the world because it's not worth ruining a relationship with somebody in the church to give them like to help them financially. You might as well just like separate because I've seen that happen so many times where I'm like, yeah, but you would like, just like, like, to help them financially. You might as well just, like, separate because I've seen that happen so many times.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Yeah. Where I'm like, yeah, but you would, like, just let go. Like, pretend you're family. If your family did it, you would let go of it. You wouldn't be upset. You would for a second. You'd talk about it, like the Bible tells, bring it to each other, and then move on.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Like you would with any family. That's not what happens. It doesn't. I know. So don't even do it. Don't even dabble. And then they talk bad about the person with many people cause rifts. It's just terrible.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I know. You reap and you sow. Yep. Yep. Just remember that. I hope you're ready to reap what you're sowing. Most people love the sowing part. They do not like the reaping part.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah. The harvest is coming, though. Yeah. Always. Enjoy. It won't taste coming, though. Yeah. Always. Enjoy. It won't taste good, though. I can promise. It's bitter.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yep. Next question. I have sinned against someone. This is, this follows suit into something. I changed this question a little bit, even though it's still theirs, but it was very long, and so I kind of, of like shortened it, but it says, I have sinned against some, they'll still know who they are, I think. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Because, but I just, it was very long. So I had to take stuff out. I have sinned against someone and have apologized and asked them for forgiveness and repented and asked the Lord for forgiveness. They want nothing to do with me and have asked that I do not contact them ever again. I have stopped all communication and believe that God will repair this relationship very soon, but it will take time. The problem is, is we go to some of the same places
Starting point is 00:49:51 and have to see each other, and since they have made it clear they want nothing to do with me, I give them space. Is that the correct approach? Do I keep trying or leave it alone and let God handle it moving forward? Well, okay. Depending on how you send, well, I mean, outside of murder,
Starting point is 00:50:12 are robbing them, like where they don't feel like they can trust you in their home or whatever. I mean, depending on the level, if it's something, and some people would say, give me some things, girls, like people should forgive. I mean, thievery, I'm like, I can forgive thievery. You're just not going to come in my house where you can rob from me again. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Right? Until we gain trust. But I would still forgive that. Yeah. We just have to be very careful. Like, you murder somebody, I probably can forgive that. But, no, I would absolutely forgive it. But to the degree of, like, I don't want you chopping my head off.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Right. So, hello. Fair. Definitely fair. We might limit and have some distance between us. Right. And a restraining order. Definitely fair. We might limit and have some distance between us. Right. And a restraining order. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:51:08 But I can forgive you. Okay. But, like, if you lied about somebody, if, what are some things? Gossiping. Gossiping. Yeah, stealing. Offensiveness. Offensive.
Starting point is 00:51:22 No, what's other things people what could what could this person have done to cause this that maybe they should that the other person should give for give them forgiveness for um yeah i mean like because they're seeing each other yeah yeah like if well and that's uncomfortable right being in the same place or places. Like, who knows? Maybe they go to the same dance place. Their kids do dance together or something, and then you have to go and be in the same room as them. That's uncomfortable. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Been there, done that. And this person's asked for forgiveness. No, but stealing could be anything. Stealing a husband, stealing, you know, a job, job, you know, opportunity. So stealing, definitely gossiping, lying, you know, they're all. It's probably one of those things, you know, I mean, stealing a husband, though. It's pretty bad. Then you have to go to the same teacher conferences.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And I mean, forgiveness has to be there. Absolutely. Right. And it was. Listen, I would I'm going to be there absolutely right and it was listen I would I'm gonna be honest with you yeah this is this is if I wasn't saved if that was me listen and somebody and some woman cheated and took my husband yeah listen I would do everything in my power to look as hot as I possibly could. Yeah. Get him in bed, take pictures and send them to her.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Wow. Unsaved hope. Unsaved hope. Okay. Unsaved hope. I love that. Listen, what's good for the goose. What's good for the goose is good for the game.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I don't know. I'm just saying. That's a plot. I think it's called a revenge body. Yeah. I'm not saved. There's like a whole show. I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I'm not saved. I'm totally fine with that. I will do everything in my power to pay you back. Yeah. Which the unsaved hope probably did do that. Let's say that you're saved. Thank God hope is saved. I i'm not kidding somebody takes my husband yeah oh i know no not happening what about like gossip venting like venting about a family member
Starting point is 00:53:34 to somebody else oh what about that like i did like yeah are you talking about like what i did my family yeah um like that well see it's been done to me and my family i Yeah. Like that. Well, see, it's been done to me and my family. I mean, I think every family, I don't know of anybody, I mean,
Starting point is 00:53:51 even in Tom's family this has happened where family members have gossiped about us. Yeah. And it wasn't nice. And
Starting point is 00:54:00 I did it in my family. My family, there were family members that did it about me. Satan loves nothing more than to ruin families. And so for me, I sit there and say, if it's family like it was in mine, or like close friends that are like family,
Starting point is 00:54:21 do you know what I'm saying? Like maybe this person was a close friend or something. Yeah. Um, I'm not saying it's water under the bridge, but I would say I would not give Satan one inch. Not one inch. Cause Satan's loving that you guys are divided apart.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Right. Oh my gosh. He's having a flipping field day. Right. And if you said you're sorry, well, maybe you need to, like, like I had to prove myself. Okay. And my brother was very angry for a very long time,
Starting point is 00:54:57 and then his regret is time has, time has, we lost time. And then my regret was I ever said what I said. So both of us had regret in it. Because the longer you stay apart, there's nothing, there's absolutely almost, there is almost nothing that should keep close friendships. There's not one friend. There's not one very, very, very close friend that I have a long lasting relationship with that may have gone like this. And it's usually over COVID to be perfectly honest. Or they went a very, I can think of another friend that, that gossiped about Tom and me, Tom and I, and this is before COVID.
Starting point is 00:55:49 But they were going, not even the arc way, they were just going very liberal, like anything goes in their Christian walk. Like they left and went to a church where everything's permissible. Almost sexuality is totally okay,ity is totally okay like 100 okay um the pastor's apologizing for the church uh not embracing and accepting homosexuals well even that relation those people we still talk to them and they because my hope is is that we can get them back. I mean, Satan would love nothing more than to keep them confused. Right. So for me, I sit there and say, listen, if, if it's, if, if, if you have apologized, pray
Starting point is 00:56:39 for reconciliation, pray that at some point you guys run it into each other. And I would kind of of i wouldn't keep forcing my i didn't force myself down my brother's throat and listen we had to go to plenty of functions i was always very nice to him um and when he was cold i just was like leave him alone let him have space but i prayed diligently for restoration or and i I wanted restoration, but God has to be a part of it. And, um, if you're truly sorry,
Starting point is 00:57:11 like I would love to say like, that was the only time I ever did it, but sometimes you're stupid and you do, you repeat bad behavior more than once. And that, that's been me. I like, I told you guys I'm transparent.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I was a gossip. And so I would love to say it happened once. It didn't happen once. But the thing is, is I did change and I was very remorseful and I had to prove that. But my brother had to be open for me to prove it to him. And sometimes the person has to take the chance of being hurt again by you, which is a little bit of a risk, but only through your showing, only through showing that you're truly remorseful and that you've truly changed will show them whether or not they're willing to take the risk of forgiving you. But you can't get back time. So the longer they don't fix this with you, the longer time is lost. And maybe they're okay with that. But if they're a Christian, they shouldn't be. Because we should always, always, always. Now, we should always be wanting, we should never want Satan to get a foothold.
Starting point is 00:58:27 We should always be wanting reconciliation. And sometimes with that reconciliation is maybe this person says to you, listen, I see you say you're sorry. I am concerned and I trust the level of sincerity. But you know what? Through time, let's try and fix this. And you prove yourself. And not that they have to like grovel or something like that, but they need to see like I had to prove myself. Like I wasn't going to talk about my brother anymore. And so you prove yourself and the sincerity of the,
Starting point is 00:59:04 and the remorsefulness of the apology will prove itself in their full restoration. Because listen, I'm just telling you, Satan loves it. He's having a field day. But you can't force somebody to forgive you. You just can't force somebody to forgive you. You just can't. But you can sit God on them as far as, and I mean sit God on them in a very positive light, meaning just asking the Lord to reveal to them how much you sincerely are sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:38 He'll reveal it to them. And then they'll see whether it's true or not. And then restoration can happen. Girls, do you want to add anything to that? Yeah, no, that was really good. I agree that like it's you do your part as much as you can. If they want nothing to do with you, you can't force yourself. So you do your part.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You make sure with God, he says you've done everything. Once God says you've done everything, then that's it. But always wait for an opportunity to bring restoration. And sometimes it doesn't look like the same as before. And that might be a good thing, level of protection. Sometimes when people are starting to go a different direction, like God protects you too. So you do your part. Yeah. But I can tell you this, like with any relationship, and I'm sure a lot of us can understand or can relate to this, what I'm about to say, but sometimes it's better than when you reconcile.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It was way better than it was before. Yeah, absolutely. It was, you know, and that's how it was with me and my brother. Like, it was, our relationship is way better than it was before all of that. So there's, like Romans 8, 28, he'll work all things together for your good. Like whatever was bad, he'll take it because he knows Satan's loving this, but he'll turn it around and work it for your good
Starting point is 01:00:51 for both parties. Yes. Yep. I agree. Like do your part and pray for them and then rest in it. Don't toil. Don't like be anxious about it.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Don't let this like steal your peace and joy. Yeah, but I would say also to the person that's been gossiped about, because I know what that's like, understand where they understand their side of it so that you don't harbor any resentment towards them through the process of them not forgiving, because that's not fair either. Because they have to work it out, too.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I had to work through some things to get to the other side. And I'm sure my brother did, too. He just took way too long. Go ahead. That was it. Just lay it down, pray in the Spirit, ask for an open door, and then just rest in it. Don't toil for it.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Right, exactly. That's good work. Sarah? Sarah's always got something. What Vanessa just said. That's it? Yeah. She took the words right out of my mouth.
Starting point is 01:01:58 What a chord. Sarah's on day number nine of a fast, so I don't know if her brain's working like normal. No, she's saying no. She's got clarity, though. She'll be good. She's like, chill. Chill, Sarah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 That's right. Drink some more water, Sarah. Drink some more water. What is it? Cheers. Cheers. I think that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:22 That's good. I think that's it. Yeah. That's good. I think that's it. I'm going to do one more because I'm going to end on a high note. Okay. Because that one makes me sad. Okay. It's Friday. Let's go on a high note.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I didn't like it when I was in like, I feel bad for people when it's like that for them. It does. It's hard. Especially when you're in the same situation. I feel bad for both people, but I really feel bad for this person because they seem like they really want to make everything back. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:53 I do. I feel bad for them. I mean, obviously I've been a victim of it. That ain't fun. But it's not fun to be the one that's pursuing too. I know. So let's end on a high note.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Okay. If you could choose a different first name for yourself, what would it be? That's hard. I would not change my name. I would not change my name. I love my name. I love your name too. I just, I thought about like what names do I really love?
Starting point is 01:03:24 I don't love any name but mine. I feel like I wouldn't, I would be, I'm like, okay, I'm 57, so maybe that has something to do with it. Like, that's all I've known. But it'd be weird to have a different name. Wow. I agree. It changes who you are.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. Kind of. Yeah, I feel like I'm me. That's me. Not that I bring hope to the world but i'm just saying you do i feel like hotline do you know what i'm saying i do i do what about you would you have a different name no have you ever liked it i have my name is only hope i have no middle name nothing what no that's it's just hope oh wait maybe i did i think i've learned that before
Starting point is 01:04:02 i don't have any other name just hope Hope. No middle name. Like Madonna. My sister's, the only person in the family that has a middle name out of the kids is my older sister. The rest of us, it's just, I'm just like Cher. Just Cher. Just Hope. That's amazing. My name was supposed to be Lindsay. And then my parents said it so much.
Starting point is 01:04:21 That they hated it? They hated it. She does look like a Lindsay. So maybe I would pick Lindsay. You kind of do look like a Lindsay. I'm not going to kid you. See? Yeah, that could have worked.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Okay. But I think I like Tracy way better. I know. I can't change my name, but we have a lot of people in the chat. So once we go through our peanut gallery, we'll start saying the names. Oh, yeah. I want to know what they said. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Okay, Talia, you wouldn't change your name? I don't think so. But if I did, it would probably be like Italiana. Like longer. Yeah. With Tal in it. It still would have Tal in it. Yeah, it's still Italiana.
Starting point is 01:04:59 I like that. Maybe you need to name your kid that. Maybe. So your name's in it. Yeah. It's a girl. Yes. So it's kind to name your kid that. Maybe. So your name's in it. Yeah. It's a girl. Yes. So it's kind of like your namesake.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, that's a really great idea. I've always loved it. It's very pretty. Yeah. But I don't think Talia, I don't even know where your mother got that. I think I could be wrong, but a waitress, her name tag said it.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Wow. And she's like, I'll name her that. That's cute. Your mother. That's cute. I know. She's watching. God bless it. And she's like, I'll name her that. That's cute. Your mother. I know. She's watching. God bless it. She is.
Starting point is 01:05:30 She's watching today. She's in the chat. I was once called Veronica at the door. What? Yeah. While I was greeting.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah. And I was like, you know what? I've never met a boring Veronica. Oh, yeah. No. I know Veronica.
Starting point is 01:05:44 She's a hoot. I would want to be Veronica, and it sounds so good in Spanish too. Veronica. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think I could do it. Yeah. And it's baby. You'd still be baby.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. Okay. Okay. So my mom said on a sign in a store, then a waitress confirmed. Oh. It was meant to be. Gotta love me some Courtney. That's my girl.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yep. Sarah? I wouldn't change my name. I mean, we're not changing your name. No. I just, I don't think that. I just don't. You don't have time for it.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Although, you know, in the Bible, God does it a lot. He changes people's names a lot yeah I know so if I had to ugh cause names were so important
Starting point is 01:06:31 then yeah seriously um I really when I was growing up you know like
Starting point is 01:06:37 when you're a teenager you're like I hate my name oh my gosh this is so dumb why'd you give me this name um I wanted to be Renee
Starting point is 01:06:43 oh I had a Renee but then I had a Renee. But then I met a Renee and I was like, never mind. I don't want that name. That's how it, like when you're naming your kids. And when you're a teacher, that messes you up real bad. Cause you're like, oh, I love that name.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Oh, nevermind. That one kid that picked his nose and wiped it on the, nope, he was named that. No, we went, you're looking, for us, it was super easy because we just named our kids after parents and stuff. But if I had to have, I would have vetoed a lot of names. Yeah. I didn't like that person. Yeah. Right. Does anybody in the chat have a name that they wish they would have?
Starting point is 01:07:20 Do you want to read Natalie's? Me? Natalie? Natalie has her name, but it's her middle name she just confirmed. Randolin? Randolin. That's what she would say. That's her middle name.
Starting point is 01:07:29 So she would have chosen that. I've never heard of that name. I know. I've never heard of that name before. Jer said he would change his name to Brock. Or Thor. Or Hulk Hogan. Or Murdoch.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Oh my gosh. Or Logan. Or True. The thing is, Jer has identity crisis when it comes to names. He's been named Jerry. Yeah, he pitches on it. He's been named Jerry. He's been named, exactly, J-R. And then he changed his name to Jer.
Starting point is 01:07:50 So he changes his name like every 10 years. So one of these names might actually be... Jer, it's about time. Maybe Brock. Yeah, okay. I don't think so. I feel like he would have to be on a soap opera or a,
Starting point is 01:08:05 one of those, uh, like, um, dynasty, like the old, like Dallas. That sounds like one of those old soap opera.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah, it does. It does. It kind of looks like a Stefan. Sounds like Brock sounds like a porn star to me too. Oh my God. Yeah. Not Brock.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Okay. I mean, unless you want to be a porn star, then okay.. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, not Brock. Okay. I mean, unless you want to be a porn star. Then okay. I mean, I don't know. Sarah, I need you to read Naz's, please. Please read hers. I can't. Mikkelzadek?
Starting point is 01:08:35 That's Naz's. She said kidding, not kidding. She's serious. Is it like Mikkelzadek in the church? Yeah. The priest? The priest of Mikkelzadek? Yeah. Yeah. Or Melk Mechizedek? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Or Melchizedek. Mel. Melchizedek. Melchizedek. Oh, Melchizedek. Yeah, it's M-E-L. I just started thinking of how it's spelled in the Bible. It's Melchizedek.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Mel, yeah. Interesting fact. Yeah. Interesting fun fact. Okay. Most believe that the priest of Mechizedek was actually Jesus. What? I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:09:08 When I read it, I looked into it because I thought that was like my first gut reaction. Is this Jesus? Yeah. Old Testament. Well, it wasn't his first on the scenes thing because obviously, you know, he was there when the world began but he formed the world with his word but yeah interesting anybody else so my dad wanted to name if my mom was that is your mom saying this yes my dad wanted to name him cross a feature who cross a feature cross a feature michael wanted to name you that if she had a boy oh if they had a boy if they had no they wanted
Starting point is 01:09:44 to name charlotte that actually if it was a boy. Oh, if they had a boy. They wanted to name Charlotte that, actually. If it was a boy. Cross of each. Okay, listen. Your husband has no rights to name anything. That's terrible, and that's the reason why you had all girls. Oh, my gosh. Because God was sparing them. The disease. But my mom was going to do Michael Angelo if it was.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Oh, my gosh. That is so your mother. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh That is so your mother Oh my gosh Oh my gosh Listen, I'm just saying You want to meet She's probably one of the funniest I'm not kidding you
Starting point is 01:10:16 Courtney does our kids program And she is one of the funniest Females I've ever personally met in my whole life. Literally. If you want to have fun, then you bring her on whatever you're doing. Yeah. Because you're going to laugh. You can just sit back and enjoy the show.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah. Exactly. 100%. And the way he tried. You don't need help. No. You just watch. You just watch the show.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I know. She is the show. She is the show. And the way he tried to convince my mom was that he would be nicknamed Cross. Cross. Cross Savicchio. Oh, my God. Cross Angelo.
Starting point is 01:10:54 No. That sounds terrible. Cross Savicchio. Cross Angelo. It's like a... I don't know. My dad is Italian. It's like a bad meal.
Starting point is 01:11:06 It's like the name of a really bad meal. Kayla said something that people can spell because her name is spelled. I know. Every time. I'm like, that's true. I know. And that's so easy for me. I have a sister, but I'm always like Kayla, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah, that's true. Because, I mean, I think about my name. How easy does that get? I know. It that's so easy for me. I have a sister, but I'm always like Kayla, Kayla, Kayla, Kayla. Yeah, that's true. Because, I mean, I think about my name. How easy does that get? I know. So easy. So easy. I loved having only four letters to have to learn to spell my name. Because, listen, I'm not the brightest crown in the box.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. Four letters? I'm in. Easy. Easy peasy. No middle name either. I know. You don't have to learn that.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Better than that. I named my son Joseph, but he's all messed up. I know. You don't have to learn that. I named my son Joseph, but he's... I know you screwed him, man. It's J-O-Z-S-E-F. I know. When he was in preschool, I was like, what did I do? Why did you do this? What did I do? You're trying to be crafty and creative.
Starting point is 01:11:56 That's what I'm trying to do. Sorry. Well, I know. It's a family name. That's how you spell it in Hungarian. Oh, okay. It's his grandfather's name. And that's how his spell it in Hungarian it's his grandfather's name and that's how
Starting point is 01:12:06 his grandfather spells his name yeah that makes sense oh okay okay then you weren't
Starting point is 01:12:11 being crafty but yeah it wasn't fun no for him yeah for him and then I had Emma
Starting point is 01:12:16 and I was like four letters yeah two of them are the same same we were golden don't get any better
Starting point is 01:12:23 than that we were golden that's so funny. Anybody else got a name in the chat? Anne-Marie said Summer, and then she said Bertha, laugh out loud. I don't know if she meant that. Summer's pretty, though. I like that as a girl's name.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I do like that one as a girl's name. Oh, man. Angelina, it's her mom's name. Oh, that's pretty. Yeah. I changed my name. I want to be Summer. She does like that she does that is
Starting point is 01:12:46 her color palette it is okay you would use autumn instead of autumn by the way if anybody's having a baby girl anytime soon autumn rain but like rain spelled like a king raining yeah because i found there was a verse about the autumn rain and I was like that's a great name for a girl. I'm trying to talk Janelle into it. Is there anybody pregnant
Starting point is 01:13:08 with a girl that we know? Janelle but she said no. No I told her to name her Talia. Oh my gosh. Okay. We're believing for it. I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:13:18 Skylar will not allow that. Oh. Sorry Tal. Well then I'll bribe him. Then I'll bribe him. Then I'll bribe him. Not the wrong way of bribery. Gotta do what you gotta do. Cindy's is good.
Starting point is 01:13:29 She said anything that doesn't have the word sin in it. Oh. That was good. Amen. Hey, I can't do it. Hey. Oh. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:13:42 Yeah, that's it. All right. That's it. We're going to see you on Sunday. Be ready to do some praise and worship. Vanessa is up there. She don't want to see a lazy crowd. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Right. The fist is coming out. Oh, my gosh. Listen, there ain't nothing like, trust me on this one. I know it for a fact. There ain't nothing harder than starting a lawnmower that's dead. And that's just like, some of you guys have had to try to start a lawnmower that's dead. Okay. That's what you guys are like when you're doing worship and nobody's worshiping.
Starting point is 01:14:19 It's like trying to start a dead lawnmower. You guys are dead. Exactly. So come ready. Yeah. Prepared. Right. Ready to go. Don't ruin my pictures. Because nobody wants to be going, brr, brr. I know. Your arm starts hurting after a while.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. So be ready. Yeah, and they ruin my pictures and my videos. So if you could just look like you're enjoying it and really appreciate that. Put on the habit of praise. I don't have to cut you out. Exactly. Sacrifice of praise.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Sacrifice of praise. Thank you for doing that. Yeah. We'll all love you for it. And start on the ride routes. Sacrifice of praise. Sacrifice of praise. Thank you for doing that. And start on the ride there. Don't fight. Don't fight on the way to church. Put on that praise music on the way here. Build yourself up. Don't wait until we're
Starting point is 01:14:59 at the church on Sunday morning to get lived up. Because you can start doing that even Saturday night. That's right. We should just be doing it every day, but come on. Yeah. Just in case you're not.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yeah. Start Saturday night. For the love of Pete and for the worship team. Do them the favor. Vanessa's judging you from the stage. What is that? Vanessa's judging you from the stage. Norma's come off going,
Starting point is 01:15:24 Oh my gosh, that was so hard. I know. I know. She had a great time. She was going, oh my gosh, that was so hard. I know. I know. She had a great time. She was like, oh my gosh, that was rough. You can see their faces. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I know. I believe it. Bring it. Bring it. We'll see you Sunday. Thanks for tuning in. If you do not live in the area, then watch us live on Sunday morning. And she's got it right there for you.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Jeff, he starts at 10.05. Vanessa's got it right there for you. Jeff. He starts at 10.05. Vanessa's husband starts at 10.05. Goes for about 15 minutes. So you got like a 20 minute window. If you don't want to listen to the announcements. Then tune in. Yeah but he always has like a good word in there.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And so it's like. But some people. I know but like you're going to miss the little like nuggets. I know. Plus he's funny. Get here on time people, you're going to miss the little like nuggets. I know. Yeah. You know, he's funny. Get here on time. Just get, it's the Lord's day. We're crying out loud.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Get your seat. I'm ready. That's right. No, I'm not saying for people to walk in. I'll sing online. No, you can't come late. Right. I know.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I know. I was talking about if you're online. Yeah. No, not listen. It know. No. I was talking about if you're online. Yeah, no. Not, listen, it's bad enough we start five minutes, 10.05, for you guys that are walking into the building. Literally, we have an influx of people coming in at 10.30. Yeah. Shame on you.
Starting point is 01:16:36 It's true. Shame on you. Yeah. God deserves your praise. So be here. Be square. See you later. Have a great weekend. Bye. Thank you. you

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