The Hope Hotline - Charlie Kirk: Who Can We Trust & King | King Melchizedek

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E65 | 09-24 -2025

Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Hello, and welcome to the Hoppot line. Sorry, I'm chewing an M&M. And it was good. Okay, so I am consumed people.

how many of you guys are consumed in which way in whatever way i'm consumed right now i don't know i am yeah you don't might i want to say how you're consumed yeah i am i'm i'm consumed because i'm bothered about a few things okay one is i'm bothered with our government what the what i'm bothered with our government. I mean, I'm very consumed with, like, what the heck is going on. Mm-hmm. And what's that song Tom always plays? Whose Side Are You On?

Mm-hmm. Like, this is not good, like, with the Charlie Kirk thing. The, like, trying to sell that it, sell a bill of goods. and then to just, so we move on to whatever else. I mean, if anybody's deep diving into this, and I'm saying to deep dive into whatever you're seeing on social media, there's some crazy, I literally was saying this to my mother. I think it was my mom the other night.

I was like, it seems as though people with, their phones have better documentation than the college that actually has cameras on site. How is that possible that people with phones are giving us legitimate information and the people that should have the legitimate information are unwilling to share it? some stinks and it smells bad and like you can say well I'm a conspiracy theorist which there is truth to that I have now become a conspiracy theorist which I used to laugh at the conspiracy theorist but now I am one because all of them end up being true instead of fake

I just like nothing I always say nothing like even the things that I feel well there's pretty much nothing I'm dogmatic on I have an opinion on them but even those things that I have opinion on I'm never so close minded that I'm like thinking that I mean except for heaven and hell I'll change I mean heaven and hell things I'm dog and I'm going to stay to the one side. But like there are things in life that all of us, I'll preach to myself instead of other. There's things in life that I myself, they could go either way. And I have an opinion on them, but I'm not so close-minded that I'm like,

it can't be like pre-post mid-trib, right? Right. Like I'm not, like there are some people are so stock and barrel on whatever the three of them they are in, they're not movable to say well Jesus did say no one would know about the day or the hour so I mean right now

play that we're going to go back to the one thing I was talking about but get this as of yesterday we were all supposed to be raptured out of here true I made some phone calls in the morning to say goodbye or to say I'll see you in the air no no no to check I voice message my mom

and I was like mom I just wanted to make sure that you're still here and that you weren't raptured and then she said that she was. So then I checked on Vanessa. Vanessa said, present. I said present. Did you notice who didn't get a text from me yesterday? I didn't.

Right. That wasn't going to be my telltale sign, guys. You are not serious, right? I was just making sure hope. It was me and Jare left. I forgot, me and Jair went for a walk, and I forgot to check to see if Tudy was. What is the scripture say?

I forgot to see if she was still sleeping, so I didn't go and look. So I was like, great. I either have to walk. walk back to the house because if Tootie's there, we're good. But I forgot to look. So that I figured my mom and Vanessa, if they're here, we're golden. How do you, how do you find something you reposted?

Oh, right here. Okay, you're going to pull this up. I'm sending this to you right now. I want you to play this because seriously, I should have sent it directly to you. But, okay, so everybody was saying that, either the 22nd, if Norma wants to know what I'm talking about, on the 22nd or the 23rd of this month, the rapture was going to take place.

That goes against the Bible in so many ways. I guess I should have called you first. In so many ways. And then on top of that, there are some things that still have not occurred so it couldn't have happened. Do you know who came up with it? Like, who is the originator?

I don't know. Idiocy. I don't know. I'm going to eat them in M's guys. The green ones I might should stay away from. You know there's somebody standing in front of like a whiteboard trying to do all this math and came up with like. Right. I don't know.

Who knows? Well, it was, what's it called? Rosh Hashanah, Roshahana. It's the festivals. The festivals. Oh, the festival. It has something to do with the festivals and the new moons. And the bowl.

And when everything. red heifers and the and they built it and it's privately being built right now and it's already built nobody knows but it is oh this yeah it's it's pretty deep play did you pull that up oh yeah no no i got it right here hold on yeah i got it this is this is i this is i would i wish people i i wish i would have sent this to tracy before yesterday morning go ahead okay hello how y'all doing up there who is these is John the Baptist, I thought that was you. What you've been doing?

You ain't been up there in the wilderness lately, have you? Good. Listen. Can you patch me through the Matt Matt? Matthew. Yeah. Hey, Matt, Matt. Listen, I was calling you to report,

because they got some foolishness going on down here on earth, and I don't know if y'all knew it. So I felt it was in my best interest to call you myself and let you know. Now over there in Matthews, you said that don't nobody know the day, not an hour, that Jesus are coming back. Ain't that right? Well, baby, it's folks down here saying, tomorrow is the raption. Tomorrow, they show it. Don't nobody know.

That's why I thought. So how they know, either they line or the word line. And I know the word is true. Don't even worry about it. I thought so, Matt. I just wanted to call and get some understanding. standing cause these folks down here have folks worried and scared and doing everything and you know my cousin janis called me with it time out she wasn't going to pay her rent this month because they said

the rapture was tomorrow i told her she showed her being her mansion on high because i ain't got no money to pay all right then matt matt i just proceed as normal all right bye there we go so what you're saying is i should have gone on tic-tok first or talk to me okay next time i'm calling Sorry, Vanessa. You're not my go-to anymore. It is funny how you escape to send that to me. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I absolutely.

Once I knew Vanessa, my mom were here, I was like, oh, the rapture didn't happen, guys. It could have happened all day yesterday. I know. That did worry me a little bit. Yeah. I was hoping it would happen during a bite. I was actually excited about that. We could all get caught up.

True. You know who would have been left behind? Coco. Coco. My puppy. Her puppy is wild hope. Probably naughty as can be. Started manifesting halfway through.

All the time. Abide. So an Amazon lady came. So of course, Tara was like, I was going to go pray for her. I'm like, go ahead. So then she goes out and the lady's like, oh, I love prayer. And she's like, I got a bunch of ladies in there. She's like, I can't go in the house, but I'll take prayer from all of you guys.

So all 40 of us, whatever it was, went out and prayed over her. And then she's like, can I take a picture? nobody's going to believe this. So then she wanted a picture with us. And then all of a sudden, when we're like, cheese, Coco's like, rah, rah, rah, rah, right? Manifesting during the photo. I mean, she wasn't even supposed to be out there.

Nobody thought, like, because she used her own camera, right? We don't have, we don't have proof. No proof. No proof of photo. I got a picture of. Well, we don't have proof that the rapture didn't take place either, so. What if we did get left? What if we did get left?

A narrow is the way. You there be the find it. We'd play this other one from this dophist. Yes, crying. This one, right? Yes. I hope she's kidding because I didn't watch the whole thing through, but she sounds like she's been crying.

Okay, here we go. Hi, so this is my last video. It's Monday, September 22nd. Sorry, I sound like this. I've been crying all morning, just so excited to leave this place and be raptured. My family and I, we've just called out of school, called out of work. We're just waiting around. We're all too nervous to even go number two because we, you know,

know you just don't know when it's going to happen so we don't want to be on the toilet that would be pretty silly um if you're seeing this and you're still here i'm so sorry that you didn't make it um you know you can try you can try for jesus i can try to convince him to come back for you if you decide to be saved but um yeah i don't know at least you're here getting to do all the sins that you wanted to do and be naughty with your fellow sinners I don't know. Maybe you can make the best out of it. But, yeah, goodbye.

I think that's fake. Somebody, the next one, said, I can't tell if this is satire or not. I couldn't either. And so her screen name is Vicky, silly and serious person. But she's still chatting. Of course, she's still here.

She's still here. So she must be naughty. And she must be sinning. like she's always wanted to I don't know but there were people who were dead serious about this there were people selling all of their stuff

2819 they were bringing all their stuff to the church and was giving it to them and they were like no no no don't give your stuff and they're like no we want to and they're like all right so they took all their stuff that's what happens yep I heard that people were literally convinced. This is like, this reminds me of when 2000 hit, Y2K. Oh, yes. But Y2K was way bigger

than this. And for a year, that's all you heard about. I rang in the New Year in church that year. I was going. I did not. I'm telling you, what? Oh my gosh. I know. I believe you. You bought into Y2K. Oh, yes. How old were you? I was also like more, 15 yeah listen 15 year old but not church tell you there's no such well my church didn't they didn't say nothing always said that you were gonna get raptured every second yeah yeah yeah yeah so this is a perfect any second any moment everything was gonna fall apart yeah yeah we even had a song remember jesus come back what's that song why 2k Jesus come back y2 k people get ready Jesus is coming oh soon you'll be going home but here

here's the thing. We even had a song. We had a theme song. But here's the thing. I'll fly away old glory. I'll fly away is also the same thing. But that doesn't mean it's happening now. My gosh, man. I'm just telling you. Like, the things people fall for, it drives me bananas. Like open, nothing personal, Tracy, but open up your daggum Bible. I'm a little offended right now. Like, how can it happen? How can it happen? It can't happen. There are things that legitimately say that will happen. And until those things happen, it can't happen. It's true. Hope. I might open up a can of worms with this one. Let's do it. Okay. Have I part of this? No, no, no, no, no, but you know about it. Okay, okay. There are people,

legitimate people, who think the rapture has already happened. True. Oh, yeah, I do know that. True. Yeah. And we're living post-millennial. Yes. Yeah. I know. Yes. I've heard of that. Okay. Does that make sense? Mm-hmm. I know. I mean, people will believe anything, okay? Anything.

But there's no record anywhere in history that the world was destroyed and that Jesus came back and the blood was up to his bridle. There's nothing. Yeah. I mean, but go ahead and keep believing that. Yeah. I don't think that that would be recorded in history at all. Like, that would definitely be left out. That massive of destruction, not being recorded, are you kidding me?

I mean, oh, my gosh. They include that into the dark ages where nothing was recorded. Right. So that's how they explain that away. I know. Last record. Last records. I'm telling you what.

There's people to believe this stuff. I'm not one of them, okay? This time. just this time that's nuts man yeah so the jury's still out of it if you're still here either yeah you're lost and you're like the rest of us in this room we're all going to hell in a hand basket well we can make it through this is doesn't the tribulation start now yeah right no you can't because there's only one coming what do you mean we just have to we just have to be Don't you need to be martyrs during the tribulation?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because, no, there's the rapture. Yeah. There's only one coming. But then you have to die. And then God, and then Jesus comes on the horse. Right. And he destroys everything.

So nobody that doesn't make it in the rapture will make it into heaven. It says that the son of man comes in a cloud. Right. And he harvests the earth. Right. Okay, the earth has been harvest. The next time Jesus comes is on the white. horse and that's for destruction right but what if people die and they've repented of their sins

after the rapture like they're like oh my gosh it doesn't say that in the word it says their hearts grow hardened more hardened yeah yeah everyone's hearts go more hardened towards him and they're still i mean they're still living it up getting married having babies the whole thing in these seven years of tribulation so have at it tell you my son's still here so we all didn't make it and you've been left behind it's craziness people will fall for anything fall for anything true you should be very afraid if you believe that nonsense how stupid must you feel right now especially if you sold everything and like got rid of everything that's pretty rough I know right that's uh imagine going back to the church

I'm like hey I know I gave you all of this right but can I have my pillows back I know like you gave your house away everything oh yeah that secondhand embarrassment I can't even imagine unbelievable and then there's lots of people who didn't even know the was going on. Oh yeah, Galena was like, Galena was like Rapture? What am I missing? Oh my gosh. See, that's the way to live. It is the way to live. Then let's go back to what I was originally talking about. Okay. Yeah. Which is the Charlie Kirk thing, which they're like, that right there so so now okay norma's going to go over there and she's going to say something in a minute like what she hurt you don't want to say that no tell me tell everybody what you

told me okay i'll tell you when i'm ready for it when i'm ready for it hold on okay so then now there's now oh it's always been one one shooter now they're like there could be two right they have literally got video of where you can see an actual bullet coming in the direction from the if i'm charlie kirk his right hand side where they said the shooter originally was in front right but he actually was shot in the neck on the right hand side and it went through and you saw the his shirt go like this to the left hand side funny how they were really really leasing any of the corners information yeah it's all it's all like jfk milk all over again or um or robert kennedy right it's it's all this nonsense um and we're supposed to we're supposed to be

better than that right now we're supposed to have way better information than this but so when they do try and find out like people like you and me, Joe Shmoz, on the street, try and find out what is going on. This happened, this kid that I'm going to show you, saw the event. He was there and that is, this is what I'm about to show you was when it actually happened. Play that TikTok. Yes, you're live right now. Well, we're recording. I don't know if we're live because of the cell service. Hang on. I was standing in probably the third row in the bottom. I was standing from probably the third row in the bottom I saw hit I heard the shot ring out I looked to my left

and then I looked over to my right I saw him slump over in his chair forward he slumped over he had blood coming from the left side of his neck down his shirt and he slumped over and he was carried off step we're not doing this sorry get off me motions are running high right now this guy says a man died today this is unconfirmed no why would that be think about that why is somebody trying to make that kid not talk right right right makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever that why why wouldn't he be allowed to talk? Mm-hmm. Yep.

I mean, what, I just don't get this. Like, why would, who are those guys that are making him be quiet? Yeah, where they come from? Yeah. Where'd they come from? and are those people hired people that were in the crowd from the government that knew I mean and then the old guy I think you said this the other day Tracy the old guys was arrested for porn afterwards child pornography up after he said I did the shooting

so shoot me like what the heck what is going on and no and then Candice Owens like people want to talk bad about her but she's the only one talking and they try and say that she doesn't know what she's talking about but then she puts out tweets or texts that prove like and like this Bill Ackman guy said that he did it he wasn't there or like his plane it wasn't his plane that flew in then came then when he it left it flew you know how they turn off the radar so you can't see it it's been proven it or allegedly it's been proven it was his plane and he's now said well we were allowed to do that and then traffic control saying we didn't give anybody permission this is all bad guys and our

and like cash Patel what are you doing I know like these people are all in on it right and why here's the question that I why why is this going on Why are people up to this point that have always been credible and have always been honest, always been trustworthy, always spoken the truth that are now no longer doing that? Why? Like, people need to be thinking about these things. People need to be paying attention.

The thing is, I will say this, is we go back to the rapture. If you are a person that believes in pre-tribulation, then you don't need to listen. to what I'm about to tell you. If you are a mid-tribber or a post-tribber, then you do want to hear what I'm saying. Because the fact of the matter is, is, it says that people will be deceived by the false profit. And if you don't look at things and you don't pay attention to things and you don't like investigate things, you'll be deceived, just like in 2020. Because you let other people do your thinking for you versus doing your own investigation.

That's one of the reasons I love Jen Ziers. I say this all the time is because they don't believe everything they're told. They actually come from a period of time where you do your own research and you check things out because information is always ready and available for them. Back in my day, news that happened a week ago, you finally hear about it on the news a week after. in order for you to be able to read an article you had to go sometimes to get the newspaper like we got the newspaper every day

but there's some people that would have to go to the library and get the read of paper or if you needed to research something you had to go which was called microfish and you had to pull up like a you had to pull up I know Vanessa is looking at me like what are you freaking talk about it looked like a negative have you ever seen a negative

look like a negative And it would be on negative paper, and you would have to put it under a microscope on a big thing and on a big screen, everything, and you move it around so you could read it. That's how you did your own research and investigation. A lot of people didn't do it because, first of all, the news wasn't, listen, the government was just as bad then, but the news was more balanced. So they actually would ask hard questions. Nowadays, there's no hard questions asked. There's no real investigation. It's, what do you want us to tell everybody?

What is the thing you want us to feed everybody? What's the propaganda that we're supposed to put out? That's what we're dealing with now. And then you have your Candace Owens, your Tucker Carlson's, who else? Like Charlie Kirk was one of them. Who else is another one that you can? Dan Bonjino is part of the problem now because he's with them. He used to be somebody you could listen to.

Who is it? Who do we have? What's his name? The guy that rages. Ben Shapiro, but he's so slanted on certain things that are like, okay, well, that's good to know. But who else? Milo is coming back. But he's like so full of himself.

You almost can't stand to listen to him, talk, because he never shuts up to let anybody else talk and then like when he does it always goes right back to him very quickly so it's almost unbearable but who else do we have uh Alex Jones right Alex Jones thank you thank you yes absolutely Alex Jones the British guy Russell but he's so um Johnson no no the one that became a believer recently brand brand brand Russell brand I haven't heard a lot from him about this but he was I haven't heard from him in so long I did you did I saw him say something like about posting about praying from like during when everything was happening but I didn't see anything after that not that there wasn't something I just haven't seen anything yeah yeah I'm gonna tell you

people need to wake up yeah you're gonna fall for you're gonna fall for crap if you don't It's not good. I mean, you're going to fall for the false profit in the pulpit because there's plenty of them right now. Norman was saying to me that the kid that they arrested, you want to go and tell people what you said? Well, you eat another green M&M? And then we'll go to questions.

Oh, then we'll go to you talking. Yeah, I got a couple things. I just saw this multiple times on social media and stuff like that. I don't obviously do your own research and figure out if it was true or not. I don't have the exact words, but basically what he said was he was forced to do it. The people that are forced him to do it, if he didn't do it, they'd go after everybody he loved, including his family and friends.

And he goes, either way, basically I'm dead because I can't speak the truth and I can't speak against charge. like he's like either way I'm screwed so what like what do you what do you do well what happens is you do something and then they catch you in it and then they use it to blackmail you I've watched a lot of scandal you've watched a lot of scandal do you know what does that mean it's a show it's a show oh it's a show yeah and what does what does the show talk about what's a lawyer and she's in a relationship with the president of the United States oh is this is it is it so this is a fake show yeah yeah yeah yeah carry carry Washington yeah yeah

is the thing. And so it's all conspiracy. It was, I don't know, maybe like five or X, I don't know, seven years ago. I don't know. It feels like forever ago, but maybe it wasn't before COVID. Was it before COVID, right? And it's just conspiracy. So they're like killing people off and then this person.

It's just like, it's a mystery all the time, always a mystery. But it's all government related. And it's like, wow, these seem like this could be like a real thing that the government does. So, yeah. Like that. The dog was too. Oh, okay. Like that movie?

Yeah. Like you sit and watch that. I think it was Wag the dog. What's the John Travolta movie? I don't know. John's a Volta? I don't know. He did one too.

That's got like pulp fiction. Sorry. That was it. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So when you say stuff like that,

like my brain immediately goes there when this stuff happens. It's like it's never the shooter. Like he was probably in a compromised position. So he's a scapego and either way he's screwed. He's either screwed if he does it. And so, yeah, when not like that. Police audio is where you heard it. Was it his real voice or was it?

They got a hold of police audio and that's what he said to the police officer. Interesting. We haven't seen any of, has anybody seen the arrest body cam when they arrested him? No. Right. No. Here's the other thing. They said that he was walking around talking, texting his lover.

roommate and the conversation in text that they said like the governor or whomever when they arrested him the text literally the text messages don't even sound like somebody that's his age right it didn't and then they find a video of somebody that looks just like him and a dairy queen. When he's supposed to be texting and watching that gun so he could get it back. Candice Owens has that.

Yeah. It's highly suspicious because it really does look like that kid. I mean, very much so it looks like that kid. So. I think she said it was. Well, she's,

there's nobody that can confirm it. Allegedly. But the, uh-huh. But the, exactly. But his dress. his clothes, everything looks very much like him. I mean, it does look like him,

but obviously without fingerprints and everything else, you can't prove that it was, you know? That's why when they take video of bank robbers and stuff like that, like they have to have a really good, it has to be a really good digitalized picture in order to really say that was the person because that person can say it wasn't me

and they need the confession because the picture isn't good enough in a court of law too it's crazy but you do you have to have the confession most of the time so this is wild man

it is it is and very disheartening yeah and it's like a ping pong game back and forth back and forth back and forth it's this and it's not I mean am I the only one in this room I mean, and you don't have to say whether or not, but are, am I the only one in this room that doesn't believe that what they're telling us isn't real? Like, isn't the truth? Or do you guys, and don't feel bad if you do believe that what they're telling you? You believe? No. Norma's behind you. I'm behind you. I don't find it disheartening because I, I've been on YouTube a lot because it's the only social media I'm allowing to, like, be in my life. I actually find this really awakening and not obviously it's horrible, but there's, so many people I have watched over the years that are like so far like not left but like

do not agree on anything that we do that are looking at this and going there's something so dark behind this I think the person that got killed was actually right and that's why they killed him like they're awake oh that part yeah I'm not like I'm obviously sad I see yeah I'm not disheartened at all right now I'm actually finding it very much very cool to be alive well for me I find it very heartbreaking that our government has not changed and that the truth is not being spoken. That is very disappointing. And I mean, if you can't trust the people that you've put into office, they work for you. I mean, the whole, like, even just the list that's out, I guess we can probably say it.

I don't even know what we can say anymore. No, no, we're not on TikTok anymore, so we can talk freely. I'm so happy. I'm so free. I know. I know. Like Epstein list. Like why not just put it out?

There are so many reasons. She's on the list. I mean, there's no. No, no. I don't believe he is on the list. I don't believe he is on the list. I believe, I believe based on the things that are being said and that are being revealed, that the powers that be that oversee from people who took money from places they

shouldn't have taken it from. those people are on the list and those people are the reasons why it's not being revealed yeah but again like we can't trust them to do that so then and they said they were going to and they're not and it's like it and here's another thing like another lie another but like at the same time like this is why i think pastor rodney said that god told him he doesn't care who's in office because it's all the same game yeah it's all the same stuff it all comes down to like are you actually going to do what you need to do in a moment where things need to be done so true man it's so true we till 2030 is what pastor rodney said god said till 2030 um and then he'll tell us more after that it doesn't mean that everything

ends at 2030 it's just a 10 year like that's normally how things are done a 10 year uh perspective focus on this focus on today right oh gosh yeah and there's so much even in the midst of this there's so much good. Because I agree with Norma. There are positive things that come out of this. One of them is eyes are being opened. Second of all, eyes are being opened from people like me to say, nothing's changed. So don't believe anything.

Anybody tells you. Again, I don't have faith in the government, but I do have hope that whatever, when you vote people in and they say they're going to do certain things, your hope is that they're actually do what they're going to do. My faith is only in God. I have faith in no one else and nothing else. But I do have hope and it's been dashed. And it's gone. 100%.

But that's okay because, again, my faith isn't in people. My faith is only in him. So people will always let you down. You can hope that they don't, but the odds are they will. It's true. But it's good to know instead of believing it's one way when it's really not. If they would have gotten away with the lie, then all of us would be sitting here deceived. And it's great because whatever, you know, God's word, and I have thought about this several times,

God's word is so truth, whatever is hidden in the dark will be brought to the light. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God that that verse always comes to pass. You can always count on it. But that's why I'm like, that's why I say, I have my belief systems and things. But again, whatever. is hidden in the dark will be brought to the light so if if what i believe is truth and it's not

then i know at some point it will be yeah and if it never is then i ended up being correct on it and if i you know what i'm saying so i just trust in those things but i also know that we can be wrong so i'm married to that too so fair all right do your thing okay and then we'll go a question since we only have 25 minutes left. All right. Sounds good. All right. If you're on Facebook, which you've got a few of you guys on today, we're having a little bit of an issue earlier. It kind of froze up on us, but we got you up and going. So we're glad that you guys are on today. Welcome to Facebook. If you want to join our conversation, you can head over to Rumble. Talia, can you put that link over for me, please? So she'll put the link there.

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She is, we found our niche and we are asking the questions, but now we are doing Name That Tune and people are loving it. So head over there, join the game. It's really fun. Sometimes Hope won't be able to guess the tune. So you can jump in the comments and tell her how disappointed you are in her that she didn't know the tune. People get so irritated. I'm like, how am I going to know every single song? And I'm like, how do you not know this? Because I didn't listen to every... I'm taking your card away from you. Take it, please.

Get over yourself. And then when she knows too many of the movie soundtrack songs or TV songs... I watch TV too much. And they tell her she needs to touch grass. Yeah. Go back in your life and you need to take yourself out of your old life and put... You need those comments, though, because that makes a video. Exactly.

Tell you knows. She knows how this works. So, yeah, so head over there. We love it. have fun. We really do. We laugh. And yeah, we're excited to have that spot. So then, of course, we have the Hope Hotline on there. Vanessa's on there. I'm on there. Tell you it's on there. Oh, you less a fault. No, this is a new one. This is an old one. So you probably still have it. And we've got all of our other friends that hop on the Hope Hotline every once in a while.

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And then we have Crave coming up. We do have Crave coming up. The 18th of October. Okay. We'll make a little thing for that too. So plan to be here for that. Yes. That's going to be a great night.

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But this one was, it said, Pastor Tom often talks about McKizade, Melchizedek in his sermons, and it leaves me curious. Who was Melchizedek, really? And why does the Bible call him a priest forever? What makes him so important? Do you know anything about him? I know.

You did send this one over, and I did look it up, and I don't have my notes anymore. So, it doesn't matter. Did you really know about who he was? Because I didn't, I mean, I knew about him a long time ago, because I taught. about him and kids rock when I did children's ministry but before then I mean I think I taught children's ministry when I was like late 30s early 40s or something like that but I wasn't I was that I mean obviously you heard about him but you know I didn't really know about him I just read about him in the Bible right I don't think a lot of people even know about him yeah yeah I know

about him because whenever you study on tithing right it always points back to the priesthood yeah but a lot of people don't even know about him and tithing right that's fair because a lot of people always say the old testament doesn't talk about tithing or excuse me the new testament doesn't talk about tithing which it does but like old testament never it's always Malachi They always go to Malachi. They don't ever go back to our, where you're from. Right. So, like, I didn't either, though, to be honest with you.

So he correlates. But what I loved when I taught the kids about it is a lot of people think that Melchizedek is actually Jesus Christ. before he ever came to the earth in the New Testament that he was the because he's likened to him but people because there's no reference of him his birth and there's no reference of him with his death and it's so interesting like it's very interesting

like the characters in the word are just, it's crazy. Do you have anything else you want to hit on that? Not really. I mean, because you're probably like me. Yeah, and it predates even the mosaic covenant. So it's before the law even. Right, because Abraham was before the law.

Right. Which a lot of people don't realize that. Like, there was no, thou shalt not in Abraham's time. No. All of their, there was, there was no. sin because there was no sacrifice for sin and a lot of people don't get that either like he was lying well they they really weren't lying because right there was no there was no there was no law there was no rule like that now was it right no and i'm sure there was some but the holy spirit is

what brings conviction thank god because the rule the law was the rule of law it was the boundaries It was follow these rules. Before then, there was nothing. Then you have that. And then Jesus said, you know, I didn't abolish it, but I came to amend it, basically. But then he said that he's going to go away. So then the Holy Spirit will bring the conviction. So we don't, although we do have the Ten Commandments, which is a guideline still,

it's the Holy Spirit's conviction that goes along with the Ten Commandments, which can you imagine a life without the conviction of the Holy Spirit? I cannot. Because it's way, like a lot of people think it's like, I mean, as people, when you grow up, and you don't have that relationship with the Lord, you do have guilt. But that's what I think, like, Abraham and all of them, they did have a guilt that they felt, like, when they kind of felt bad.

Yeah, everyone was born with a moral compass. Yeah. You know right from wrong. Yeah. But there's no consequence then. Right. Versus, after Moses with the two commandments, there was the moral compass with a punishment. And it was beyond the law because it's like you had all of these rules.

rules that you had to like follow and if you if your rash looked a certain way yeah you had to be like taken away from you're out of the camp man literally it's yeah until dark and then you could come back in i know like if you were bald you couldn't be a levitical priest like if you're a woman and you had your cycle you had to leave you got to go to the red tent you had to go to the tent or you had to go outside of the camp until and then Then you had to be, like, it had to be a week after. Like, you're outside of that camp a lot. You are.

Jeff said that's why men had to have multiple wives. Oh, my gosh. Because they were always gone because of their cycle. But if you're around the same women, your cycle usually becomes the same. So they're all out anyways. They're all out at the same time anyway. Oh, man. Crazy.

Yeah. What is that? Just keep getting new lives. Solomon had like how many It was ridiculous They definitely didn't think up So many It was ridiculous

I can't even remember the number But when I was like That's why you went insane And lost your way I know Have you read Ecclesiastes Solomon's not well there Everything's meaning was

But that's why the Lord told him Like the Lord was very God was very specific And he did not, he did not stay obedient to not marrying women inside of, he married women that had other gods. And that's what destroyed him. And that's why, like, being equally yoked is very important. You marry somebody that does not share your same values or share your same belief system. And they will lead you astray.

Solomon learned that lesson well. More so than anybody. And he was the wisest man on earth. How? How do you get it so wrong? Because you lose your way. It's just like, how can you be so on fire for God and then walk away? I mean, it's because temptation.

You allow yourself to have that distance between you and the Lord. And then a numbness comes in and then you allow temptation. And sin is very gradual. It's so gradual that you don't even know that it's overtaken you until it has. It's true. Yeah. And then you're like, what the heck happened? You're in knee deep.

right in my case neck neck deep yeah true so i mean it is what it is but um but it's just crazy it's just crazy so malchizedek this is so interesting uh i some questions you know you you know you know who the people are and you'll remember certain things about them and then but some of these questions bring you back and they they even teach you even more than what you already knew they they build on what you knew. And I like that. This is what I would say was the case for me with this question. Genesis 14, 18, through 20, and this is the new living translation, which says Medeucidic was the king of Salem and a priest of God most high. That's what Genesis 14, 18, through 20 says that when it introduces him, it says that he was the king of Salem and a priest of God

most high, which is super interesting. So we're going to get into what was the king of Salem. which again I didn't know this about the king about Salem but um it also says that he met Abraham after a battle blessed him and received a tithe which is 10% of everything Abram had taken in victory which is what Tom talks about when he says that that was the first tithe that was given was when Abraham gave a 10th to Melchizedek which was after a military battle which Abraham confiscated and won of the pillage from the battle and so he gave a tenth of it to Melchizedek which is us that we go all the way back there that's where that is how far back tithe goes and we are from the genealogy or from the air the the line of Abraham so we don't go to Malachi we go all the way back to Abraham and we follow what he did um so let's look at this.

Melchizedek means king of righteousness. And it also said he was the king of Salem. And Salem is thought to be ancient Jerusalem. Did you guys know that? I had no idea of that. Which makes me think of like Salem, isn't it Salem, North Carolina where they do all that? Oh, no, that's Massachusetts. Massachusetts is where all the, witch trials.

If Salem means, what does Salem mean? Let's look it up. Okay, hold on. Salem is Austin thought to be ancient Jerusalem, and the name means peace. You know, it's interesting. That's not peaceful. You know, there's a conspiracy about the Salem witch trials. Really?

Lay it on me. I want to hear this. That the witches weren't actually witches. They were Holy Spirit filled, and they were doing... They were doing words of knowledge. They were doing, like, Holy Spirit things, like, signs and wonders. and people were thinking that it was witchcraft. And they died for their face.

See, I believe that. I believe that, too. Isn't that wild? Yeah. And then they turned it into this, like, whole witch thing. And then that killed them were actually really evil. Surprise, surprise, right? Holy moly, that's so interesting.

I know. Is that confirmed your dad? I don't think so, actually. Was that from TikTok? No, this is, I've heard, because I'm from Massachusetts. So, like, I've found interest in it. And I'm like, I wonder, like, I don't know, something about it didn't seem right to me. Because when you go through there, it does feel, like, kind of weird.

Really? There is a heaviness there, for sure. But they've made it into that. You know what I mean? Now everybody goes with, like, to be haunted. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. So I just looked into it. And there's definitely some, like, tension points with what they say about these ladies.

That's wild. I know. I think we would have been 100% we would have Abide Yeah oh yeah Oh they would have came and grabbed us One by one

At the stake all 40 of you Yes Yeah They were taking you into the church They would have Right into the church Yeah Oh my gosh

Right to the altar Oh man yeah so that's yeah That's interesting That's very interesting That's very interesting So if you take his name Melchizedek, and what it means, then it means is he's the king of righteousness and the king of peace. But what is Jesus called? He is righteous and he has peace. Okay. That's crazy.

Yeah. In Psalm 110, 4, David prophesied about the Messiah. So this is what David said. And a lot of times people don't, when they read Psalms, they don't read it as a prophetic word. It is It is so full of prophecy. It's crazy. But David prophesied about the Messiah, and it says, you are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek. That's powerful.

And the book of Hebrews in chapters 5 and 7 says that Jesus is our eternal high priest, not in a temporary Levitical line of priests, but in the everlasting order of Melchizedek, which is a whole other standard. Yeah. And then Hebrew 7.3 says, Malkisadec is, this is what it says about Makhizadec in Hebrew 7.3. It says, and this is New Living Translation.

There is no record of his father or mother or any of his ancestors. Like, how is this possible? No beginning or end to his life. Like, there would be a record. There's a record of even, like, Noah's grandfather, which was, what is it? Shem?

What is it? Shem? No, Noah's grandfather. I don't know. It just popped in my head. Malthusida. Methalusa. Methalusa.

No. Methuselah. Methuselah. Thank you. Oh, gosh, Tracy. I love you. I was chat, GPD. Okay.

So here's the thing. If we can know all the way back, yeah, right. You can't, we know who his parents were? Right. Yeah, exactly. We don't know who Melchizedex is. Come on.

Come on. Enoch. We know about Enoch. Yeah. We know about all this stuff, but we don't know about his. Some ain't right. Something ain't right. Nah.

Nah. So it says, then it says he remains a priest forever, resembling the son of God. I like this conspiracy. I don't know. So what people believe is it was either he was just a man. He was an angel or he was actually Jesus Christ in a pre-incarnate, you know, appearing pre-incarnate. They call that something. I don't know.

They call it something when that. happens. I don't know. Huh? No, that's not what I'm thinking of. It's in what I read. They call it something another, but whatever. It says that the Bible doesn't say for sure, but it makes clear that Melchizedex priesthood foreshadowed Jesus' eternal priesthood, which is powerful. So, if it goes to So if Abraham gave a tenth of his tithe to Malchizedek, then if you think that if he was a foreshadowing, which is not the word I'm thinking of, but if Melchizedek was actually Jesus incarnate, shouldn't we then give our 10% like he did his 10%? It's the same. Do you know what I'm saying? 10%, 10%. I'm not trying to tell people to pay tithe, but I am telling you you should pay tithe.

You're crazy if you don't. it right you're crazy if you don't i don't know why somebody wouldn't i'd be scared if i didn't that's my only that's my ace in the hole for everything it boils down to trust they don't trust god in their finances no they don't it's pre-incarnate that's not the word that i'm talking about it's theo something another okay that's the one that chat used for it because it's like i didn't even ask it it just said no does mel Chesek is a pre-carnated appearance of Jesus.

That was like the question. It's something, Theo, something, another. Okay, I'm going to find another word. But type in pre-incarnate another word, Theo something. Okay. Great question. Thank you.

Okay. Nope. It's not saying it? No, nothing. All right. Oh, it doesn't matter at the end of the day. But I will say this. Okay.

It is exactly what Vanessa said when it comes to paying tithe. It's control. And it's not trusting. And listen, there are times where it is tough to trust. It is tough to trust, especially, I mean, when you have a bill and you're like, it's either a little light staying on or I give my temper. percent and you need to say I'm giving my 10 percent because God promises that the lights will stay on hello what is that I'm trying to get it's okay just keep on we're good we're good can people

see that yeah no no no no nobody see anything keep going that's interesting you're trying to send something to me well that was interesting and big I magnified everything just for you magnified the Lord for me so for me it's like I've literally known people that were extreme about this and they it was going to be their lights and other things. I knew this woman who had two children, her husband and left her. She was not from this country, but she came over legally and she was, I mean, I don't even know if she's alive anymore because she was older when she was telling me this story. And she felt like the Lord was telling her,

like she was newly saved, and she felt like the Lord was saying, trust me in everything, even in your finances. And she was like, I'm the only breadwinner. I'm the only one that can feed my kids. And he was like basically saying,

I'm your provider. I'll take care of you. Basically better than the man that you thought would take care of you. so she's down to her last little bit of money and she has like two bills one's the electric bill and one was some other bill i can't remember and it's not like it was cable for the tv because back in the day that wasn't the case it's like a significant bill and so she was like it was like four hundred and forty one dollars and something cents i can't remember exactly what it was but it was like some like four hundred and forty one dollars and something sense and so

she paid those bills and like the next day everything was going to get shut off she paid those bills and she's like okay I'm not going to have electric tomorrow because I don't have the money but she was like I'm just going to trust you God because even if I don't have electrics somehow you'll make away she went to Bible study that night she said nothing because she didn't want anybody to know about her situation she was European so she kind of proud and stuff so she said nothing to anybody, which is good because you shouldn't say anything to anybody. Let God, if you're paying your tithe, let God take care of it. Now, have some people had to say, I need help?

Yes, okay, I'm not busting your chops because you said you need help. Listen, everybody's been there. And everybody, I'm sure, has at some point said, I need help. But there are times when you just need to be quiet and let God work it out for you. So she did that. She went there and she didn't say anything. Do you not know that while she was in Bible study, this woman came up to her. It was either during or right after and said, hey, listen, the Holy Spirit told me that I needed to write you a check.

And do you know that that check was exactly for $4441 and whatever that sense was? Wow. That's wild. I love it. And she was like, okay, God, I trust you. Yeah. I know you're going to take care of me. And from that moment on, never a problem.

Were there tight times? Yeah, but he always came through. And it doesn't mean he's going to come through in your timing. He wants your faith to be stretched. So you're going to come around in his timing. And people think, like, it's got to be in the 11th hour. 1159, God's going to come through. Well, he didn't do that for Lazarus with Mary and Martha.

Okay? He did it on the fourth day. But he still did it. And that's where you have to be. You have to know that you know that you know, even if it's the fourth day, whatever is dead will come back to life. And you have to trust him in it. I know it. I've been there.

And he never has failed. Not once. Not once. And he never will. Never. Because his word is true. And he made a covenant. And that covenant you can count on.

Unless you want to count on yourself, which will hurt you. There we go. I'm not going to try and say it. That's what I'm trying to do the whole time. The pH is a pha sound. Theophena, phana, theophani. Phony, Thiofanani. I don't know.

That's why I'd let you say it. I don't know. That's it right there. It is. It is. Thank you for that. That's what I was trying to do earlier. I was trying to make the font baker so you could see it.

And then the whole thing went big. You know what? I'm very happy. You know why I'm very happy? because I ate Eminem's. Oh, I want that for you. That was really nice. I really liked them.

I really enjoyed them. I really don't need to be eating that stuff. But I really liked it. I think my pants are getting a little tighter. Uh-oh. You probably just need to drink some water. That's what we always say. Just drink a gallon water.

No. I know what it means. You can't eat the Eminem's and you got to start walking. Right. Which I have. been walking but maybe not enough okay maybe a little bit more or maybe i need a walk enough to eat off the m&ms yeah up that pace i don't know okay so we don't have you on friday correct no i'm here friday you are here friday so for some reason i have i have you off on friday now i'll be here this

friday okay it will be i'll be here so the gang is together the gang is together all right so we will see you on friday with an addition which is natalie which is always fun yeah and she's Coming with some great information along with your questions, so bring them. Or while we're watching, you can bring it. But can't count that you're going to get that question answered during that time. I know. We'll try. She has some really good questions, though.

I'm excited. So can't wait to see you on Friday. Bye. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. I don't know.