The Hope Hotline - Dressing Inappropriately at Church | Did I Miss My Calling? | Should I Keep Tithing?

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E44 | 06-18-2025...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the whole pot line. Thank you for joining us today. We have a really good show for you. Welcome Tick Tock. I don't know about yours, but hello to everybody on Tick Tock. And like, I'm just finding now out about what's this woman's name. Karen Reed.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Karen Reed. And then Heather told us about a murder mystery that she watched that was very intriguing. Okay, can you give me the low down on this Karen Reed really quick? All I know is that she watched that was very intriguing. Okay, can you give me the lowdown on this Karen Reid really quick? All I know is that she is 100% innocent. Not guilty. And we are waiting for the verdict right now.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I don't know if it's cause I like, grew up near Boston, but this is, it's in Boston right now. Everybody's saying that there's gonna be a verdict any moment and it's all on TikTok live right now. So if we are low on our viewers, it's cause everybody's watching. I don't know if it's that, but we're still working on,
Starting point is 00:01:12 on gaining in viewership right now. We're new. Okay. So wait a minute. Like how do you, is this like Harrison's Ford, the fugitive? Is it like this? He wasn't set up by the police though. Have you ever seen the fugitive with Harrison Ford? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:29 No. You guys, You're not saying I've never seen it. Okay, well he was accused of killing his wife and he did not do it. He went to jail, he escaped, and then he was on the run. And while he was on the run, he proved his innocence.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Tell me like, what is the deal with this and how do you know? Because she looks very innocent. Okay. Your gut is telling you? It's that like- Spidey sense, it's your parasites? Your parasites are telling you that she's innocent?
Starting point is 00:02:02 Okay. Chet Chee P.T PT is telling you she's innocent? It's not. I haven't even looked. Okay, it's TikTok. Everything I've seen on TikTok, we all know that she is not guilty. It was like-
Starting point is 00:02:14 How do you, like, okay. I do not get this. It was a total setup. It was a total setup. And no, I'm serious. Like a total setup. She was set up by these cops. And the whole thing is like-
Starting point is 00:02:26 Why? Why would they do that? I don't know. That's what we need to find out next. So once she's not guilty, then we're gonna find out like what happens. She'll have like a series of like parts, right? Oh, it's gonna be so good. There's gonna be like 95 parts on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Oh my gosh. And I can't even wait. She's gonna be like sponsored and promoted. She is gonna be not in jail because they're gonna announce it any second. Oh wait, they're cheering. They're cheering. Oh my gosh, they're cheering loud.
Starting point is 00:02:50 They're cheering. I think she's not guilty because everybody wants her to not be guilty. But I- They were cheering. Okay, listen and tell us. Tell us what's going on. Okay, so for, okay, they, they not guilty she's not guilty guys.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Wow. Nobody knows why. I don't know why. My life can go on. Okay I feel good. Probably. I don't know. This is in Boston they're all swearing so So I don't know. Yeah, let's not do that. Let's not play that. I thought this was rock and roll. This is rock and roll. Put your thumb out. That's I love you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Got it. Wow. Okay. Okay. Okay. So guys, it was just like this past like few days that it popped up on my For You page about this girl. And now everybody is doing like comics skits with it.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And they're like this one girl. And it almost feels like fake because of the way that these are happening, like what they're saying back and forth to each other. But I didn't, I wasn't prepared today to explain all these things. I am just invested because they, I know, I don't even have the Cliff Notes.
Starting point is 00:04:04 But all I know is that she's not guilty and I will come back with a full report. Maybe I'll go to talk live later and give a report. That was what you're doing today and I was on the other end and I was reading song of Solomon. Are you looking at it? Are you looking it up? It was part of my reading plan.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I couldn't skip it. You enjoyed it. You said you were kicking your feet. Yeah, I was blushing. She was. I was like, Solomon had game. Oh my God. What is that?
Starting point is 00:04:30 I skipped over it. Oh my gosh. I'll get to it, I'll go. Hope, did you know your daughter is skipping over Song of Solomon every time she gets to that book of the Bible? Yeah, every time I get to that book, I just go. You skip it because it makes you too hot and bother you?
Starting point is 00:04:43 She's a little nervous. I'm reading, I'm. I'm sorry. I'm reading it on your wedding night. Not even close. I'm reading it the opposite. Okay, well, are you doing chat GBT about Karen Reed? It was a part of my Bible reading plan today.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I couldn't skip it. I just don't know how all these people can honestly believe somebody's innocent and how. Oh, we're back to. And then, well, yeah, I've skipped this. Yeah, she doesn't care. I don't care. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Like, how am I not reading it? So, in the first jury in July, 2024, the jury ended in a mistrial, not because Reed was found guilty, but because they were deadlocked, reportedly reaching a consensus that she was not guilty of second degree murder and leaving the scene, yet hung on the manslaughter count. Several jurors later contacted the defense stating it was not guilty on second degree.
Starting point is 00:05:35 No one thought she hit him on purpose or even thought that she hit him on purpose. Women, how did her husband die? That might help me. Well, he was killed by conspiracy. You don't even know how. Alleg conspiracy. You don't even know how. Allegedly. You don't even know how he got killed. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They said that she ran him over with her vehicle and left his body in the snow in Boston after a fight. And there was evidence that they had a fight, but there is not evidence that she actually ran him over. And they would not go into the house. It's coming back. They wouldn't go into the house to do a search at all. And the cops were like, we didn't need to.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And like, but he didn't have a jacket on, he had two right shoes on, and you just didn't go search the house? Like, nope, we didn't need to. So then they said that then the evidence of the vehicle, like the actual accident, didn't match you hitting a body. The taillight wasn't found until the actual car was on the property of the police department being searched and figured they found the taillight that like broke when she hit him. But it wasn't found
Starting point is 00:06:37 at this crime scene. It was found on the property of the police department. Like it was so many weird things. Because the text messages and stuff, they went through like for phone records and. The two right shoes. How did he get two right shoes on? And then one of the shoes was like missing. It is the most chaotic. That's why I don't have information.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It was a setup, but they did a terrible job for being police officers. I'm like, I mean, you could have done a way better job guys. But who would have thought it would have got this kind of, you know, attention? Yeah, nobody. Nobody. Well, she's, she's going home. So I know I'm trying to figure out because once she gets one year probation, I think that's what people are saying in the comments. Why would she get probation if she's innocent? So there was different charges. I'm not sure she got didn't get manslaughter, but I don't know exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It literally, like they just said it. So yeah, we'll come back. Interesting. I know, but yeah, this is pretty wild. Okay, well, that's interesting. I'll send you some TikToks. What? I don't want that in my algorithm. I mean it's over now at this point. Thank you Lord. You can talk about it on your TikTok. True. I might have to do that.
Starting point is 00:07:53 That might be my next one. Yeah I have no interest. I know. Now I'm gonna start. I'm gonna switch it up a little bit. Yeah oh my gosh. Well at least, at least she's a free woman, maybe with probation. Yeah, maybe. People are literally crying. Oh my gosh. Like you don't even know the person. I know, I'm gonna get so invested.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Holy man. People are so easy to cry. I know, I know, you don't like that. I don't like that. You know that. Like, oh my gosh, please. Who's crying? The people that just heard that she's innocent.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like you'll never talk to her, you'll never know her. And after today, and even today, how will this change your life? I'm not saying that an innocent person should go to prison. I'm not saying that. I mean, obviously if the first trial that she had, what ended in deadlock, that goes to show you
Starting point is 00:08:50 that she probably shouldn't have been charged if the second one is the same. There's just nothing. There's just a whole lot of nothingness. So kudos to the jury for not putting away somebody that you have no real proof. I wish this happened more often. I wish more often if you don't have all of the, if you don't have the smoking gun, then let's not, let's not put people away in prison that shouldn't be there. Yeah. Cause a lot of times people go on their gut. They don't go on
Starting point is 00:09:22 the facts. Right. And that's a very dangerous, there's people in prison right now that are serving time that have no facts. It's not good. It's not good. I went to, I was on jury duty when I was like 18 and we had to make a decision to not do guilty because we didn't have enough evidence. Good. I wish people did that more times than not.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You should, like that's the whole point. They don't though. I know, I know. Because what happens is, That's what's mind blowing. Is when the jury, when there's 10 people and two people holding out, and there isn't enough evidence,
Starting point is 00:09:59 what they do is they just keep pressuring and pressuring and pressuring and breaking the two people down until finally they're like, just do it. Just write. Okay, they'll be glad I was never in that room. Because I'm not like, I will not break. Sorry, it's not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I have, I like, I would have to live with that for the rest of my life that I broke to prayer pressure. Right, yeah. And then deal with that person serving in prison when I'm just not sure enough that. Yeah. I know people say it's easy for you to say you've never been in there. That's true. But I still wouldn't do it. I know. No, we didn't. I would have to know that I know that I know that the person actually is guilty. Right. Otherwise it's not happening. Right. Yep. Not happening.
Starting point is 00:10:45 I mean, imagine if that was you being sent to prison. Right, exactly. Well, yeah. You wouldn't want that. Thank God for DNA. True. Thank God for DNA. And if there is no DNA,
Starting point is 00:10:55 then you really need to question whether it happened. Yep. I agree. Oh my gosh. Thank God for DNA. It's putting some, it's getting people out of jail. I love that. That should have never been there. I mean, being married to a cop, I know that sounds contradictory, but, or a former cop,
Starting point is 00:11:12 but I'm just saying, you know, it is what it is. The system fails people all the time. All the time. All the time. It's not good. It's not good. And people corruption. It's not good. And people think that they're going in, I'm not kidding you, never talk to the cops without an attorney.
Starting point is 00:11:32 My husband would be the first one to tell you, never talk to him, never talk to the FBI, never talk to anybody that has the ability to take your rights away. Never, ever talk to them without a lawyer present, ever. Do not do it, because they'll make you think that they're trying to help you out all the while they are not.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Right. They're trying to get down to the bottom of things. And which means that you could be the bottom of that thing. That's very true. So no thank you. Very true. No thank you. I would never, ever talk to the cops. Don't do it. Word of a wise.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Listen, somebody might someday thank me for that. I already did. My brain. Yes. That's locked away forever. Oh my gosh. Alrighty. Do your thing really quick and then we will move on to what we got going on today. Okay. Since Karen Reid is free. She's free. Reed is free and innocent. Free woman. Life can go on for like a lot of people that are crying right now. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It's like Sophie's choice or something right there. What's Sophie's choice? I don't know. Oh my gosh. A lot of people were crying over it because there was a decision. She had to make a decision about something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Who she's gonna pick, which child she's gonna kill. Okay, there you go. Oh. A lot of crying in Sophie's Choice. That's all I can tell you, a lot of people. It's a movie. Don't watch it.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Don't watch it, okay. Yeah. Horrible movie. If anything makes you cry, stay away from it. It's like, what was that song? Terms of Endearment. Stay away from it. It's like what was that song, Terms of Endearment, stay away from it. If it makes you cry. What's that one with Julia Roberts and Sally Fields? Steel Magnolias. Steel Magnolias, stay away from it. No, not good. A lot of great
Starting point is 00:13:15 acting but a lot of tears. I mean I didn't cry but a lot of people did and a lot of people do. It's not worth your time. You know a merry heart is good medicine isn't that what the Bible says? It does say that. It's not worth your time. You know, a merry heart is good medicine, isn't that what the Bible says? It does. It does say that. Let's stick with the things that make you happy. I agree. All right, go ahead.
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Starting point is 00:15:29 Hi, Kelly in the room and on the live chat. But if you have a question, please send them in. If you want to send it in through like a DM or something, you're more than welcome to, but you will get a email back just letting us know that you did get your question. We did get your question. If you have sent a question in and you haven't seen it in a while, please send it in again and just let me know. Hey, Katie C. Hey, hi Galena. I'm glad you
Starting point is 00:15:54 guys are watching with us today and yeah, so anybody else you can keep dropping your name I'll say hello. Galena had that baby. kissed that baby. Galina. I know Galina. Did you go to like six flags with that baby? I saw she, oh my gosh. She did. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh my God.
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Starting point is 00:16:28 Glad you're here watching with us. OK, yeah, so if you have questions, send them over. And just a reminder, we are on TikTok. I know I already said hello. I got to do this real quick. So if you're watching on TikTok, please, please, please do all the things everything you could possibly do like for the love of it. We are doing so great. So if you could just help
Starting point is 00:16:56 us out a little bit. We're new. We're new. And I know all the people popping in. Hey guys, glad you're here. We're new, like, like. Yeah, exactly. And we love to like know who's like hanging out with us. Like Courtney's friends that like just loves us. What, I need her name. Alyssa.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Alyssa, Alyssa, Alyssa. Alyssa, Alyssa. Why do I say, oh, I know why I said Alyssa. I think doesn't it look like it almost? Like the spelling or something. Okay. A-L-I-S-S-A. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, like that girl, she is like hanging out with us all the time on TikTok. She's a little quiet on there. So, hey, you can let us know. We know she's not quiet. She's not quiet in real life. I haven't met her yet. No, she's not quiet.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Let's think about this. Who's her best friend? Well, but sometimes opposites attract. So I didn't know if it was like, you know. Not with her mother, not with Courtney. That's so funny. Okay, well, okay. But either way, she's like an awesome TikToker
Starting point is 00:17:56 and she's always watching every single video. And she's like, listen, you remember those people, right? I do. Yeah, exactly. Well, I remember her, but I mean, there's some people I do remember that I don't know, but like Anne Marie, I never met her, but I- Right, yeah, you know. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:13 They're loyal. Okay, I had to like do all that because I had to update our thing real quick. 240 people hanging out on Hey, It's Hope. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Yeah, so- I have something in my teeth, hold on. Okay, that's Hope. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, so. I have something in my teeth, hold on. Okay, that's okay, you're good. Yep. Yep, and then Natalie. It's sourdough. Oh, sourdough. Or it's that, or what is that that you?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Dubai chocolate. The, what is it? Dubai chocolate. The Dubai chocolate. Do we need to pause and talk about that real quick? I have done a video. Go ahead, go ahead. Tell them how good it was.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Oh my gosh. Tell them. I don't know video. Go ahead, go ahead. Tell them how good it was. Tell them. I don't know if anybody's had Dubai chocolate before. I'm a first. This is my first time. Oh, have you ever, did you already eat it? I ate it. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:18:54 And it was magical. I don't know how far to go raw and real on this. You're literally speechless. You can, it's okay. I don't, I can't go too raw or real. But I'm just saying like, holy smokes. Right. I did not, like I saw somebody eating
Starting point is 00:19:13 Dubai chocolate out of this container. And I mean, it looked good. Yeah. But that chocolate bar, do they make chocolate bars like that? Or is it usually come in that container where you eat it? Wait, no, I've never seen a container. I've only seen it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh no, I saw a container with chocolate in it. And then the cream. I'm just saying to you, I'm sorry, cause I'm trying to look at Vanessa. Like, oh my gosh. I've never had that before. And it is all that it is cracked up to be and more. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It was so good. Ours is homemade. Yes. Like ours is like straight from the kitchen. With love. It is. It was made with love. That is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It was so good. I'm ordering. I have a constant order of sourdough bread every week, homemade, which I just ate some of that and it was hot out of the oven. And now I got the daggum Dubai chocolate. I literally, I don't know what I'm gonna have to do in order to make sure that I get that every single week. Okay. You got it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I'll sell somebody's soul. Oh my God. Not mine, not my children's or my husband's, but somebody else's soul. Talia, I'm selling your soul. Oh my gosh. It was Talia. Talia, you're done.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Talia's up for it. You're done to me. My knee. I don't know what I gotta do, but you're dead. You're dead to me. I'll take your soul. I'm giving it to the tamases. I want that to buy chocolate.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Oh my gosh. What is happening? Whatever I gotta do. I don't think you have to. I think you can just the Tommases. I want that to buy chocolate. Oh my gosh. What is happening? Whatever I gotta do. I don't think you have to. I think you can just give her some cash. Yeah, that's probably better. Money's way better. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Way better than Talia. I think she's down for it. Although she's missing out because Talia's got some great like perks. But like if she only has her soul. Yeah, that's true. I would want like Talia as like an assistant or something. Well, I can promise you this.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Talia's soul's going to heaven. So if you grab hold of that thing on the way up, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Oh my gosh. That might be Emma's way in right there. Okay. If she starts faltering and failing. Okay. Okay. She can hook herself to that wagon. Okay. If she starts faltering and failing. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Okay. She's gonna hook herself to that wagon. Okay. So, oh, go ahead and finish that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not done yet. Okay. So, Natalie will be coming on again in the near future.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So, we don't have exact date yet, because we got some things changing. And, but we still need your questions. So, as you're thinking of things, what I keep doing is sending her TikToks that are very weird, but they're medical. So I keep saying like, I'm gonna send these to you. And if you know stuff about them, let's bring them. And answer those questions on the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So as- Hers are so good. When she's on here, they're so good. If you have medical questions or like- When do you have- A lot of times nobody can go to the doctor. That's what I mean. And then when do you know you're gonna get
Starting point is 00:22:05 an honest answer? She's never like, well, I heard one time, she's honest, she says what she knows or if she doesn't know. There's no, I can't say the right word, there's no bull, baloney. Baloney, there's no baloney. She just says what's true
Starting point is 00:22:23 and she stays up to date with all this stuff too. Like she's studying all the time and I appreciate that. And she gives us her time, which is even better. And you have full access to her for a whole hour. So yeah, take advantage of it. 100%. Absolutely, okay. And then, so next week's looking a little different,
Starting point is 00:22:42 but we will be off next week. So we'll meet on Friday, but then Wednesday different, but we will be off next week. So we'll meet on Friday, but then Wednesday and Friday we will be off. But when you guys- Of next week. Of next week, yep. And then the following week, when we come back on Wednesday, July 2nd,
Starting point is 00:22:56 Nick will be here and it is going to be a really great time. So make sure you tune in. It's, yeah, I'm excited to watch that one. I think he's trying to get out of it, but I already told him there's no him there's no getting out of it, my friends. No. And now.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Sorry. Now. You're signed up. But yeah, no, he'll have fun. This is a new, this is a stretching thing for him, so it'll be really good for him. I bet he'll love it, and then he'll want to come back every month.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So, but he'll be here, and then July 4th we'll be off as well, and then we'll be right back. So. It's summer. be right back. So. It's summer. It's summertime. Yep. Got things going on.
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Starting point is 00:23:48 after you pay for it. Of course. There you go. Okay. That is all. That is it. Sweet deal. All right. Well, let's go to the first question. And like, like my other questions on Tik TOK are not Christian based a lot of times. Sometimes they are. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:08 My conversations are sometimes, but then these questions are Christian based. Yes. So they might not fit, but they could fit if you try. Okay. There's a new woman at our church who dresses very provocatively. Some of the other women are gossiping about her and it makes me uncomfortable. But I also feel convicted that we might be judging instead of loving. How should I approach the situation as a Christian sister?" Okay, well first thing is is her dressing provocative is not a sin, but you run in
Starting point is 00:24:39 your smacker and gossiping about her is. So the first thing is is shut the trap. I mean like oh my gosh you cannot be running your mouth about somebody behind their back and talking poorly about them and think that that's okay. That's far worse than anything that she wears and I find this is so funny because a lot of times that's what happens with people. They always have it's what the scripture says you have a splinter somebody has a splinter in their eye and you got the plank in yours. It's like because you're focusing so hard on somebody else that you're forgetting that what you do or are doing is far worse than what they are.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yep. Which I think that's a lot of times, a lot of times I think that if we just focused on ourselves and making sure that we're the best person, we are the best Christian, whatever that looks like for us, if we were just trying to be the best us, we we focus far less on others. I think women are way worse than men about this, as far as being catty and always looking at everybody. Am I wrong about that? No. No.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Women just, we're just like, so funny, cause if I watch stuff on TV, I'll always be like, Tom's like, oh my gosh. But I'm like, you know, we notice things. What we do with those things is a whole different story. But I will say for the one woman that is being dressing provocatively, we are told in scripture to be modest. In first Timothy two, nine through 10, it says, and I want women to be modest in their appearance. They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves
Starting point is 00:26:26 by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes. Like, okay, that's within reason. I mean, whatever. For women who claim to be devoted to God should make themselves attractive by the good things they do. So we're supposed to focus more on our actions
Starting point is 00:26:47 versus what we're wearing, but let's face it, like all of us wear pearls, we wear gold, we wear, we do our hair. I mean, and depending on like what's expensive, everybody that's like. Subjective. Very. I mean, some of the, back in the day
Starting point is 00:27:12 when I didn't have any money, like I would go to a store and everything in the store was $10. I love those clothes. And a lot of people love those clothes and because they were trendy and as soon as the trend went, you're getting rid of it. But I didn't have any money, so I love those clothes. Who's to say that somebody who has a budget
Starting point is 00:27:36 with a lot more zeros behind me doesn't go to Nordstrom's instead of whatever that could go to a boutique and pay even more. I mean, it's all relative to them. Right. Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. So I don't think like when you're thinking of when it says in the Bible, don't buy expensive
Starting point is 00:27:52 clothes. It doesn't mean that you have to go and buy things from a thrift store or from Target or Walmart or whatever. It's all relative. And whatever you can buy, as long as you take care of it and appreciate it, I think that's all relatives and whatever you can buy as long as you take care of it and appreciate it I think that's all that matters. But also like being modest is super important because like you don't want to make men lust. And listen if you're a well endowed female, you're not wearing anything low cut.
Starting point is 00:28:26 So cleavage is showing things like that. Within reason because sometimes like you can't even if you can't even help that even. Yeah, I plug this into chat dbt. Yeah. And it says, Talk to me goose. Yeah. And it says, scripture speaks about a woman's dress primarily in terms of modesty, humility and godliness rather than giving a specific dress code. The focus is on the heart attitude behind what we wear.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Well, here's the thing. Well, the heart is desperately wicked above all things. So, okay, chat GPT, got a little bit wrong. So it's less of what you're wearing and more of like, what's the why behind you're wearing it. I think that people could use that as a scapegoat to do whatever they wanna wear. That's true. So I don't necessarily agree with that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 That's where we need to teach chat. I need to get in there. I will. I'll tell them. The error of its way. Jesus is a Lord. I mean, everybody knows, I think innately when they're pushing the envelope and why they are wearing what they're wearing. And I mean, all of us girls at one time in our lives have put things on and we know the reason why we're putting that item on.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's to draw attention to ourselves for the opposite sex. That's the truth. No matter how tight it is or how low cut it is or how short it might be, we know our intentions, we know why we're doing it. And if you know that that's the reason why don't put it on. Even if you're married, don't put it on. You shouldn't. If something's too tight and it's very see-through, you don't put it on. In public.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Hey. Hey. There you go, Heather. What you wear at home is your business. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Well, the thing is, it's like there are skirts, there are skirts that people wear
Starting point is 00:30:46 that they should wear a slip with. Yes. And they don't. Yes. And I'm like, you had to have known that when you walked out of the house, you needed a slip. It's not like, and what do you mean what is a slip? This is not.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Oh my gosh. Like tights? Not tights. No, not not tight. A slip is like, it's a, yes. It's like another skirt. Yes. Okay, but okay, but okay, Kelly, Kelly's saying I did wear a skirt that I didn't know was see-through. That's one thing I think even everybody can say I didn't know that that was see-through or when they put it on they didn't look at themselves and go oops if I would have known that was gonna slip down every five minutes and I would have to be doing this the whole entire time I
Starting point is 00:31:36 wouldn't warn it okay that's gonna happen but there are times that that's just not the case. And we need to think about why are we wearing what we're wearing and to whom are we wearing it for? Correct. And maybe this person's a new believer and she has no idea. Cause that's also, that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It is a thing. So instead of like talking behind her back, maybe like disciple her. Yeah, and actually Galena gave, this is what I was thinking too. Galena said, best way to do it is compliment on one thing and give advice, correct another. Like example, your dress is beautiful color,
Starting point is 00:32:12 but maybe you could use a little more coverage. Which is like, I've done things like that. Where you like- Galena would say it that way. Yeah. She's working on it guys. She's working on it. But it's true, like if you start having influence
Starting point is 00:32:24 over somebody and they might even come to you and be like, do you think this is inappropriate? Like, but they also don't want to be bad mouthed. So it's important to have like a relationship with people but like also say something true, like beautiful color. But you know, maybe like it is a little bit low, something like that.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Yep. I know this sounds super spiritual, but obviously doing the church for so long, like this happens quite frequently and there is something to be said, like you saying something, but I literally have prayed either Lord convict them so that they see it. So I don't have to say anything, which happens a lot. Cause if you're especially new, it's like God is just revealing things to you. And then you have a decision to make after that.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And a lot of times when people are newly saved, they're just wanting to be better and better and better. And their walks with God. But if they're not new, then I've prayed, okay, when the Lord opened the door, Lord, open the door for me, open the door for me to be able to talk to them. And then when I do, let it be one that is easy and not offendable.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Because a lot of times people are very, they're offended very easily. And the last thing, I mean, the last thing you wanna do is hurt somebody's feelings, especially over something like this. When you know, I mean, the last thing you want to do is hurt somebody's feelings, especially over something like this. When you know, especially me, like I know I've been guilty of it, you know, in my past. I was not, I had no issue in wearing things
Starting point is 00:33:54 that were provocative and things like that. I didn't care. So, and I'm sure when I got newly saved, I still did wore stuff that I was like, didn't even think about. Nowadays, if I wear something like that, it's because I'm just like, I had no idea, you know? Which I'm sure still happens to this day.
Starting point is 00:34:18 The problem is, is like, I don't even wear shorts. Cause every, first of all, my legs are terrible. But second of all, if I had great legs, I would, I hardly ever wear shorts in public because they don't have shorts that aren't like sky high. They don't make like, I'm 58 for crying out loud. Where are the 58 year old that aren't down to your knees? I don't want shorts that are down to my knees.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I just want a medium length. They don't even make those. Yeah, no, it is. It definitely is getting harder and harder. Yeah. What you're saying is, we should launch a- I need to make a short. Our own fashion line.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yes, but don't do it on CapCut. Oh my God. Because they're still in all of your stuff. It's true. Yeah, I just saw that. True, yeah, CapCut is not good, guys. So don't make anything or do anything on CapCut that you don't want shared or stolen. But worst part is, is if you use somebody's like music
Starting point is 00:35:10 and they use it as like a commercial, that's a normal responsibility to pay that copyright. Yeah. That's what Norma was saying in the office. So what are we using instead? We're not using CapCut anymore and I just bought a subscription for a year. What? So what is the real thought?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yep. What's the alternative? I mean, I use TikTok and I use Premiere Pro. No, there's a one that's exactly the same. No, I need templates. I need somebody to zoom in on. Norma does, Norma, it's called, Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:39 She'll send it to you. Yep, or maybe this could be our first sponsor for TikTok. Hey. Why don't we just put a link? Link, we'll put a link and... We're not gonna do that. Norma just said she doesn't think it's a good idea, which I wouldn't even know how to do that,
Starting point is 00:35:56 but I'm just saying. It was a good idea, I like that. Brainstorm. But don't use it, because if you have a good idea, they can steal it. Yep. And you'll get in big trouble. So don't do it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Don't do it. Just wait and see what happens. But like I was saying, a lot of times, even today, like there have been times, like I probably have warned stuff that has not been the most appropriate and not even thought a lick about it because you just sometimes That's just life but on the whole that's
Starting point is 00:36:30 Not common more times than not people know what they're wearing why they're wearing it. So Be conscientious of that but also Like in some ways it's not all on a female either. Men have to be responsible for where their eyes go as well. So they need to be very, like Tom always says, like when he goes to the beach, he hates going to the beach because he has to look down at the sand the whole entire time.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It's not fun, like football games. It's not fun when the cheerleaders come on, he looks, he has to look down or he has to fast forward. It's just the way it is. So men have to train themselves too. And they can't allow that to be an excuse for their bad behavior. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So it goes both ways. It does. Yeah. For does. Yeah. For sure. Anybody else got anything to say? I model the behavior that you want to see. I'm raising a daughter. Great idea.
Starting point is 00:37:31 So I dress modestly. I always have, but I make it like a point where she doesn't ever see me wear something that's inappropriate in public in like in public. Because I want her to live modestly. And so and I'm super involved in the youth. I'm always with the young girls and they they they see the life that I live. They see what I wear. I'm not one way in church and then another way outside of church.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, so just model the behavior you want to see in people. outside of church. Yeah. So just model the behavior you wanna see in people. It's true. Thank God you got away from that holiness Puritan like Amish lifestyle. Girl. And I'm being facetious about the Amish part, but my gosh.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Can you imagine poor Emma? I know, could you? But you know what? Jeans skirts are making a comeback. I know, that's true. Oh my gosh. And every time I see one, a floor length one, I get triggered.
Starting point is 00:38:24 You should. Like every time I see that, I think of Mennonites, Amish, and some weird, the weird, like the weird religious people who like, you can never not wear pants and, oh my gosh, I was thinking of them, Kelly, named a name of a family that was very large and on TV. Absolutely. I'm like, I was thinking of them. Kelly named a name of a family that was very large and on TV. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm like, I literally think of them because I'm like, oh my gosh, give me a break. They give things a bad name. In some ways. Okay, let's do sponsors really quick. And then we were moved to the next question. Real estate appraisal associates to Southwest Florida Inc is owned by Laura Keller. They have
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Starting point is 00:40:49 You can pretty much say, you could sum this up to people, like my sister-in-law in her 30s went from being a physical, not a physical therapist, but a speech therapist. She decided in her 30s, she's like, I don't wanna do this anymore. Like, is it too late to actually do something new? Heck no. It's never too late. And as far as I'm concerned, like, oh my gosh, please, if you feel like you're, you've accomplished what you want to accomplish in the profession that you're in,
Starting point is 00:41:19 shoot. Now, this isn't always the easiest thing, but in her case, she could actually do it. But she went back to school and did physical, excuse me, she became a physician's assistant. Now that takes a lot of work and a lot of time and a lot of schooling. That is not the case for everybody though. People can transition and do a whole new career without missing a step. And sometimes financially, you may, missing a step. And sometimes financially you may
Starting point is 00:41:46 take a few steps backwards, but depending on the career that you're wanting to move into, it could take you very little time to catch up and it might be paying you more. So I say always, if you have a family, it's a little bit more difficult because you have not just your mouth to feed, but many. She was single. But like Jeff, Vanessa's husband totally switched gears. He went from ministry to having a career, which was commission based. Commission based in his late 30s, early 40s. It is absolutely possible. And he's killing it.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Right. And that, I mean, depends on what you're gonna put into it. If you have the mindset of I'm gonna do this and I'm not gonna quit and I'm gonna do it till I'm successful, quit and I'm gonna do it till I'm successful. I say go for it. But ministry, like, you don't have to quit your job to do ministry.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That's the great thing about this. Like, if you feel like you're called to preach or whatever, that ain't gonna be tomorrow anyway. Like, you're not gonna be able to, truth be told, the odds are you're not going to step up and say, I'm quitting my job and then start preaching somewhere. It's not gonna happen. Nobody's gonna listen to you because
Starting point is 00:43:17 they don't know you first of all. And second of all, how much education have you put into learning the Bible? And I'm not saying you have to go to school to become a pastor. That's not what I'm saying. There's plenty of pastors out there that are widely known and renowned that never went to like theology or seminary, theology school or whatever, ministry school, colleges that teach it, they didn't. I'll name you two, Joel Osteen being one,
Starting point is 00:43:47 he never finished school at all, he went I think for six months quit. Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, I think Kenneth Copeland is one of them. Jesse DiPlanis, Kenneth Hagen didn't. There's plenty of people that didn't go. So... And if you ask Jeff, like he will tell you that he never quit ministry. Like he prays with his clients. Like he his whole life, his lifestyle is ministry. Yeah, but but he's
Starting point is 00:44:18 like his understanding is totally different than most, first of all. Yeah. Okay. A lot of people don't think that they can do ministry. It's like my nephew left being a youth pastor and he is now working with special needs and he said he does more ministry in that special needs job than he did when he was youth pastoring or he feels like he is. So it's the perspective and the thought process of doing the job and how can I use this for ministry?
Starting point is 00:44:51 A lot of people don't look like that, or think like that, they feel like they have to work for a church in order to be in ministry, which is crazy. And maybe you have a calling on your life where that requires it, like being a preacher, but I would tell you first to start, before you move forward with anything, I would tell you first to know your, you know your Bible, like know it well.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I know Tom makes fun of himself because he always says he doesn't know it like I do, but like the man has it memorized. Yeah. Okay. I do not. I know lots of scripture, but I do not. I mean, he spends an enormous amount of time in the Word. So he's just modest. But I would suggest so that you get your feet wet is you usher, you greet. If there's a choir, you're in the choir. If you feel like you're going
Starting point is 00:45:45 to be on the worship team, join the choir. Wherever you're starting out, start out in an area where you start smaller and you work way up because you're going to learn how to deal with people and your people skills are going to be like honed in and then you're going to find out, this isn't as easy as I thought it was going to be. This isn't what I thought it was. And the next step up would be like, lead a hub group, you know? Yes. And figure out-
Starting point is 00:46:11 A Bible study, yeah, which is what she's talking about. You wanna be a teacher, you know? Yeah. Or if that's even your gift, yeah. Yeah. Because a lot of times people think things are one way and they are a whole another way. A lot of people despise small beginnings, but everybody starts out small. Paul started out small. John the Baptist started out small.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Jesus started out small. All of them grew in ministry. It didn't happen. There was preparation time. You're gonna have to prepare. David, like she said, me and he grew from a young man, a boy killing Goliath to being the king of Israel. So like nothing happens overnight and you're gonna have to be patient. Doors will open for you, but who cares that you're 40? Like most people, if you
Starting point is 00:47:11 think about this, most people do not start investing their money and preparing for their future. This is true until they're in their 40s. They don't start preparing for their retirement until they're in their 40s. They don't start preparing for their retirement until they're in their 40s. It's a fact, correct? Vanessa, you wouldn't know that. Your husband would know that. Correct, but I'm just agreeing with you. Yes. I don't know. Even though her husband does that for them.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Look that up, chat, chibi-tee. I know that for a fact, but what is the average age start, people start investing in their future, or investing in their retirement? I think it's it's it's definitely 40s. If you're in your 30s you're like it's unheard of. Yes. At least it used to be when I was getting yeah but most people don't especially most jobs don't offer 401Ks.
Starting point is 00:48:06 What is it? Mine says first start investing for retirement 27 to 31. Consistently contributing begins in the 30s. Catch up contributing. What's the statistics of that? Most people realize they're behind by mid late 40s is what this is. Yeah, so what is the average age people start investing?
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's 27 to 31. That's the average age. That's why the 27 to 31 range. Many people don't start seriously investing until after college getting a stable job. Employers get a 401k plan, often triggering that first retirement contribution. Some delay due to student loans and credit cards. Interesting. Cause back in my day, people were not investing until the forties.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Right. That's good that there are people are thinking about it earlier then. Yeah, it says gen Z is doing it between 22 to 25. What? Earlier than others. We were not even told about that. It says boomers, 1946 to 1964, 35 plus,
Starting point is 00:49:10 many start late or had pensions. There you go. And Gen X. No, I'm not close to the boomers, but. Gen X was 30 to 35, but it's getting younger and younger. That's awesome. People are, it's probably because they know Social Security isn't gonna be around for them.
Starting point is 00:49:27 That's probably the reason why. What, Norma? I'm Gen X, yeah. I'm the best generation. Gen X generation, baby. Oh my gosh. She's Gen X. I don't know what that means either. Okay. Sign language love. Hang loose. Okay. Me either. Sign language love. She's doing this. This is hang loose.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Hang loose. Yeah, I think that's hang loose. Peace. She's surfing now. Hang loose. I'm in a beach. I am in a beach city. Hang loose.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah, that's true. Oh my gosh. Okay, somebody's calling me that should know that I am doing my podcast. No, call him out. Bill, tell Bill. Oh, Bill. He should be watching.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Come on. So yeah, does anybody got anything to say about that? Smith Wigglesworth start his ministry in 48, and he was a plumber before that. That's right. So he did some pretty awesome stuff. Pretty crazy. Was he the one that would drop kick babies?
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yes. That's the word on the street. And they came back to life. They were dead. And then they came alive. So I mean, whatever it takes. Hit a woman in her stomach and the tumor fell out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Oopsie. Whatever it is. That's a good story. That one is, huh? I don't know about that, but. He goes, when he punched her, somebody was like, you punched her in the stomach. He's like, no, I punched the tumor
Starting point is 00:50:45 and her stomach was in the way. Something like that. I punched the devil. That's what you're saying. I was like, I like this guy. We would be friends. Yeah, you know what's awesome about him is like in his eighties, Lester Somerall was in his,
Starting point is 00:51:01 I think he was in his twenties at the time. And he mentored, I'm doing this for my 50s, my thing that I'm teaching on Saturday, but he mentored Lester Sumrall for like three years until the war came and then he had to leave. He cried when he had to say goodbye to Lester. And then he blessed him and he gave, I gave all of, not all, excuse me. He, I think it was that he gave half of his anointing or his, yeah, his anointing. He asked the Lord to give it to
Starting point is 00:51:37 Lester. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that is. So he has a great story too. He has a great, that, yeah, that's a great story. Yes. It's on YouTube, there's like six parts. It's really, really good if you've never listened to it before. Oh my gosh, yes. It's a good one.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I have, so good. I listened to a really great, and then I'll, I got eight minutes. I'm gonna go to the next. I listened to, I was gonna tell you guys, Heather just walked out, but I listened. This is something, if you wanna learn not to be offended and you're a Christian, and even if you're not a Christian,
Starting point is 00:52:11 this might be a really great, like so many people walk in a fence and are so like easily bothered and irritated. I listened to this message from Catherine Coleman today on a fence. I listened to this message from Catherine Coleman today on offense. It was so good. I'm going to send it to you guys. But oh my gosh, I thought I was listening to message by her and it was actually AI. No, it was.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I think it was her. I think it was her message, but it's not her talking. It sounds like her. But I think it was what they did it because they do. It was Smith Wigglesworth. They took his messages and they put them to- It's still good stuff. I'm not saying it wasn't good,
Starting point is 00:52:51 but she was talking about social media and I'm like- Oh no, this one wasn't that. That wasn't around when you were alive. Oh, yeah, that's not true. No, this one is not, this one's not like that at all. This actually doesn't talk about that kind of stuff. Social media, that's definitely not her. No, I think that they took it does sound similar to her but it's not her. So what they did is I think they took a voice like with what we did for Christmas. We took AI voices for the countries and and
Starting point is 00:53:20 tried to make it sound authentic. I think that's what they do with this, but it's such a great message. Like, oh my gosh. It's perfect. Let us, let me get rid of that. Okay, let us look at the last question. I run a small business and I tithe faithfully, but I'm struggling financially and I don't understand why God isn't blessing my efforts.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Should I stop tithing until things get better?" Found off. Well, okay, I don't think that there's anybody has never felt like this person. True. Like, I mean, in all honesty, I mean, I don't, including mean, I don't, including myself, I don't think that there's ever been anybody that hasn't said, like, I'm not seeing it. Yeah. At different times in their lives. But like when you first start tithing,
Starting point is 00:54:21 like God really shows up a lot of times, like somehow, some way, he shows you that to trust in Him. But then there are times that's what faith is all about though. Faith is believing things even though they seem opposite of what you're actually experiencing right then and there. That's why it says we're to endure. Like there are different things in scripture. Like, if everything was handed to us, where would faith be? It wouldn't exist, and then, like, you would falter and fail. And I think that you're crazy, first of all,
Starting point is 00:54:55 if you stop paying tithe. The Bible is very clear. In Malachi 3, 8 through 12, it says, do not rob God. If the Bible promises you something, you stand on that promise. It shall come to pass. It always does. It just might not come in your timing, but a lot of us get freaked out and anxious way quicker than we should. Even when a bill arrives and you don't have the money to pay it, still pay your tithe because there's a promise attached to that tithe that you can stand on, and that bill will get paid. It might not be by you, but it will get paid. So let me just say,
Starting point is 00:55:33 will a man rob God, yet you have robbed me? But you say, in what way have you robbed? We have we robbed you. And it says in tithes and offerings you are cursed with a curse. I personally do not want to be cursed with a curse. So that's why I say definitely pay your tithe. For you have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring all the tithes into the storehouse that there may be food in my house and try me now in this, says the Lord of hosts. If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.
Starting point is 00:56:06 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, so that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field, says the Lord of Hosts. And all nations will call you blessed, for you will be a delightful land, says the Lord of Hosts." for you will be a delightful land, says the Lord of hosts." If you let, you know, as long as you control your finances, it's not gonna work. But if you let God control your finances, you will not be able to do the math at the end of the year. And I can just tell you because that's been my life.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I've never, the word says you'll never be lacking in whatever needs you have. And you will never have any want. Now that doesn't mean that there will be times like what, you know, what do you consider a want and what do you consider a need? You know? A lot of times people's wants and needs are not realistic. It's like I want a Louis Vuitton purse.
Starting point is 00:57:09 You feel like that's a need. That's not a need. When there's a perfectly good purse that will work for you and be just as nice as something that doesn't cost thousands of dollars. Reality for people is not always the case. Does anybody over there have anything that they want to say? Like I know for me personally, I have gone through life where I've had to add up coins
Starting point is 00:57:34 to buy milk or bread. Okay. Those times don't always, those times don't last. They are just a season. And when I get out of that season, I'm a better person and I have seen God's hand move through that whole entire process, which makes me a much stronger and much better Christian. And then I can stand on making, because of those times and seeing how he moved and how he got me through that situation, it makes
Starting point is 00:58:01 me more determined to pay my tithe and offering because outside of him I knew that there was no way that any of that work was possible. Yeah, so go ahead I'll let you guys talk about that stuff. I know it got like there has been times where it was very very close And it's uncomfortable But if you're paying your tithe like hope says you literally can stand on it Yeah, and we have and God has come through in ways that don't make logical sense. And it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Like it's really cool when God comes through and it literally makes no sense. But I had Jer relisten to your last podcast, I think it was Friday. And you said what, it was Kenneth Hagen, I believe, what you said he said to do with the money because he felt like the enemy was attacking his finances. And so I think I, it's something about-
Starting point is 00:58:50 He told Satan to take your hands off my money and ministering spirits I caused, how does he say it? Caused the money to come. Yeah, yep. Right. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, so we, Jare, I had like, we re-listened to it and then we prayed that over our finances because it does the I mean when you start a new Business, it's not this isn't easy stuff. No, you know when you build a new building, it's not easy
Starting point is 00:59:13 You know, no, it might look like that because obviously like we're not gonna sit here and complain and whine about things that don't go Right. I mean even with Jonathan Shuttlesworth They've had a lot of attacks with the town and you know all the stuff that's been going on. So like if just because you don't see people complain about it doesn't mean that we're not also having things that we're struggling with or we're having to go to God for. Well and it's the thing is is I will correct you because I don't think I think I will correct you on just one thing that you said, cause I don't think you're struggling with it. And I don't think I'm struggling with like for us, like from everybody goes through seasons
Starting point is 00:59:52 where financially they're watching what they're spending and how they're spending it. Again, I never put myself on a budget because I don't want to put God in a box. But like when you do do things, there's money that has to be spent a lot of times more than you even anticipate. Correct.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I don't struggle though. And I don't think you are. Here's the reason why you don't hear us complaining because I know that it's gonna come in. Right. So I don't struggle with that. I literally this morning, I woke up and with anticipation of Lord. What are you gonna do today? Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, how am I gonna see you? How am I gonna see you in every situation or in specific situations today? Yeah with Anxious anticipation because I know it shall come to pass right so for me. It's not a struggle I don't think that is a lot of a lot of people do struggle with it. No, it is. And it's just, I guess, a tension point. It's not like, we're not, like it's, we're aware of it. We're aware of what's happening.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We're not like, oh, whatever. But like we have, like an anticipation is a great way to say it. But there is tension. It's not like, we know that it's there. We see it, and we're not like delusional, but it's there. And, but like God never,ional, but it's there. But like God never, ever, ever fails.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Never. Never, and it doesn't have to make sense, and it doesn't have to be in your timing like you were saying earlier. And yeah, I would highly encourage you to keep typing and God won't fail, he just won't, he won't fail you. When I knew money, there have been times in life when I knew money was coming in that was either owed to us
Starting point is 01:01:29 or whatever the case may be. And I always was like, when it wouldn't come in and it wouldn't come in and it wouldn't come in, I would always be like, when it comes in, I know that it's gonna be at just the right time because you just sit there and go, why isn't it? And I always was like, okay, this is all on God's timing because when this comes in, there's something else
Starting point is 01:01:51 that will be coming with it. And that is just, they're gonna just meet at the same time. Yeah. And you rest in that. You don't like fret over that, you rest in that. But what are you gonna say? Cause I know Vanessa has something to say. I was in Jeff's office the other day
Starting point is 01:02:07 and I opened up his drawer and in his drawer was the W2 of when we first got married. And it was when he was making $70 a week. And he keeps it somewhere that he sees every day to remind him that he is the same God that that kept us. You know, he was he was tithing seven dollars a week. And when you're making 70 dollars a week, seven dollars hurts. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so the same God that sustained us then is the same God today today. And he is the same God forevermore. And so I will say yes, there were seasons in our life. I was on
Starting point is 01:02:50 WIC, I was on food stamps many times. However, that season has served me in the season that we are in now. Like, there is no love of money. Like, none. Because even it doesn't matter how many zeros you have coming in. You have that many zeros going out. Who said it? So it doesn't matter. I think it was Biggie Smalls who said it. He said, no money, no problems. It's true though. I mean, it is true. A lot of times even in ministry, you'll have a larger... Remember when we had like $5,000 a week coming in? And you sit there and go, oh man, if I just had this amount of money coming in, what could we do? And then you get to that
Starting point is 01:03:41 and then you realize, okay, I have this much coming in, but that much more going out because it is the way that it is. It's just, it's all relative and a lot of people lose sight of that. Own a business and you'll figure that out quick. True, true, true. Correct, Sarah?
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yep. And you have a successful business. But still, two businesses actually. Yep. And you have a successful business. Yep. But still, two businesses actually. That's the perception that we're putting out right now. Well, you're not doing too bad. No, we were in a growth season. So it's-
Starting point is 01:04:18 That's tough too. Yeah. Same. There is a lot more going out than what's coming in and you can't grow. Like he was driving a lawnmower on the back of a trailer and it rolled off into the road and that was that. So we had to buy a whole, that was $3,700 that luckily
Starting point is 01:04:42 we had, you know, but we had to like round it up and then, well, by the way, we need a trailer for that. But because we have that now, there's an opportunity for Toby to go and cut people's grass for the summer. So it's like, yeah, it's definitely. It's always, it's always something like, but here's the thing that I want people to know, like you don't have to make that your who you are, like, I just have to be like, oh, well, we're struggling. Pray for me. Like, no, how about we're just going to trust the Lord and know that. Yeah. Any time you're being pulled back, an arrow can't come out of the bow unless it gets pulled back.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So I'm like, every time we are struggling I'm like next level baby. Let's go. That's right. We've got opposition Yeah, so is it a stumbling block or is it a stepping stone to the next thing? Yeah, because Saturday He's taking his test for his the business part of his electrical contractors license That you could pray for So he's a little nervous but um pray for. He's not a test taker, so he's a little nervous. But yeah, I mean, anytime you own a business, there's going to be like... And grow a business. Like it's easy when you're not growing because you can put money away.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Right. But we've never not been growing. So we've always been in this spot. We just started another business and you have to make, spend money to make money. So yeah. Exactly. It's just, yeah. It is what it is. It is what it is. You will see the fruit of your labor. Amen. You just gotta like stay the course. Stay the course.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Pay that tithe, stay the course, do not fret, do not worry, it's gonna come to pass, it'll all come in. It's just the way it is. I know. It's just the way it is. And if you have a big family and like, you know it's like having a business.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Having family, having kids and stuff like that, it's expensive. But I mean, I've heard stories and these are not like stories on TikTok or stories on chat GBT, but legitimately seen and heard touch tangible people where they've told the stories of going to college, being married with a small child and having a box of cereal that never ran out
Starting point is 01:06:57 because they didn't have money for groceries. My family, my own family has experienced a gallon or a tank of gas that did not go, like, it should have ran out of gas. We should never have made it home so far away from our house. Like, I can't even remember. I think like 60 miles or something like something ridiculous. And it was the tank was on E and we rode it all the way home. Like this, it's not unheard of.
Starting point is 01:07:27 God, I've had needed clothes for my kids when they were very small and we didn't have the money because we were living off of one income. We didn't have the money and I just told the Lord, okay, Lord, you know, I need clothes for my kids. And like, not even a week later, I have boxes of clothes on my front door of nice items. I never said anything to anybody.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Nobody knew that I needed clothes, but there they were sitting on my front step. I still don't even know who dropped them off. So like, those are the things that when you have to walk through seasons of like tough, what you consider tough times, when you walk through those seasons and you know that beyond a shadow of a doubt,
Starting point is 01:08:10 that every need will be met. And that like the Lord is true. If he cares for the sparrow, how much more does he care for you? He cares a lot more for you. You are, he made you in his own image. That's how much he cares about you. He cares about every hair on your head.
Starting point is 01:08:25 He even knows how many you got. Like if you get down to the little details, he is going to make sure that whatever you need, the need will be met. But you have to trust and you have to have faith and you have to say, Lord, I'm putting you in the driver's seat of every aspect of my life.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And I trust you with every aspect of my life, even my finances. And when you with every aspect of my life even my finances and when you give up control of your money is when God really knows where you stand in trusting Him. So in that release let it go walk it out and see Him shine and thrive and show off what He can do in your life. Cause he will, he will. And you'll be so grateful, so grateful that you paid that tithe. Cause he literally, I cannot tell you how many times
Starting point is 01:09:12 my younger sister says, they live very tight, but even she, they made sure they paid their tithe, you know, every week. And one of the things that she says, like she's a person that budgets, so not me, but she's a person of budget. And she would say, like, they would add up everything from the year, because her husband had a business.
Starting point is 01:09:37 They would add up everything at the end of the year and what they had spent in tithe and everything. And she's like, we did not bring in enough money to pay all those bills and to go on the vacations that we went on or to eat out. Like they didn't eat out all the time, but they did do things. Like she's like, it made no sense
Starting point is 01:09:56 that they were able to afford the things that they afforded and to do the things that they did because the money just didn't add up. But with God, it doesn't matter because he will multiply. He's not a counterfeiter, but he will multiply. So anybody else got anything else to add to that? Because we are nine minutes over. That sounds good.
Starting point is 01:10:18 All right, people, we will see you on Friday. Thank you for tuning in and bye!

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