The Hope Hotline - Generational Curse? Penny Stick?

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Generational Curse? Penny Stick?

Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Welcome to the whole pot line. Thank you for joining us on this Wednesday. I'm all tangled up. Hope you guys had a great weekend. I mean, I think like it was, I think it was a great weekend. Welcome to the Hope Hotline. Thank you for joining us on this Wednesday. I'm all tangled up.

Hope you guys had a great weekend. I mean, I think like it was a great weekend. Friday night was so much fun. So good for me. Yes. So good. And it was super powerful. I think like, I would love to say that my preaching

was like so good, but I think the worship team was killer. They, yeah, I mean, both. Definitely both. And I'm sorry that we didn't, you know, stream it, but it's really hard to do all of that all the time. Yeah. But man, the worship team like totally obliterated everybody. Yes. But so did you. As well as themselves. Butiterated everybody. Yes.

But so did you. As well as themselves. But so did you. Yeah. Thank you. But as well as themselves, like I looked up at the very end of the night and there's not a dry eye in the place.

Yeah, it was so special. And like the girls, I mean, they just did a great, so did the band. I mean, the guys did a great job too, but the girls really just did a phenomenal job leading everybody. Yeah, they just did a great, so did the band. I mean, the guys did a great job too, but the girls really just did a phenomenal job leading everybody. Yeah, they really did. Yeah, worship was amazing.

Even more excited for our women's conference. Oh, I was gonna say, crave. And crave. Oh, that's it. Yeah, our women's conference is gonna be. It's gonna be stellar. So good. So good.

Cannot wait for that to unfold. And I mean, it's not gonna be the same in this year. It's gonna be totally different. It's not the same as any other year. It's totally different. It's really, really good. And then Sunday service was, if you missed it, tune in, go back and watch it.

It was really good. Pastor Tom's message was so good. Like I'm still chewing on parts of it. It was good. And it's what? Wednesday. It was really good. Yeah.

And the best part is when he noticed you. Oh, no, no, no. I blocked it out. Literally. I blocked it out. You know you were like one of his favorite. I would hope so. Oh my gosh.

He just likes, well, first of all, you can't tease just anybody because not everybody can take it. Right, right, right, right, right. I don't know if I can take it. I die of laughter every single time. All you can hear is me and my laugh. And I was looking at you,

but you were just writing away. I was, I was taking the notes. I wasn't even making eye contact with them. You would never do. You never do. Gosh, that was super funny. So yeah, I think like this weekend was so. It was really, it's just so good.

Like filled, like my cup was overflowing for sure. Yeah, it's Saturday. I don't know what I did on Saturday, but I must've enjoyed myself. I don't know what I did. Norma, do you remember what I did on Saturday, but I must've enjoyed myself. I don't know what I did. Norma, do you remember what I did on Saturday? No. Neither do I.

Maybe clean? I did do that, but that was at night. I cleaned my room. Yeah. Did you really? I'm so proud of you, Norma. She's a clean freak. She likes things neat and tidy.

I love that. But it was such a great, I mean, I don't know. It was a great weekend. It was. We started out with a bang. We mean, I don't know. It was a great weekend. It was. We started out with a bang. We did. Didn't you go to somebody's house? Oh, you went to the bins.

Yeah. Oh, that's why. I loved it. That's what it was. Yes. Me and Heather, me and Heather and Brynn went down to Fort Myers. That's nice.

I was like, I knew that I'd love her raisin. Wait, did you go to that restaurant with them? Yeah, the breakfast place. Because what she shared was incredible. I saw it. It was like, I knew that I loved her. Wait, did you go to that restaurant with them? Yeah, the breakfast place. Because what she shared was incredible. It was like a waffle cone filled with macaroni and cheese. It looked insane. And chicken tenders. Yes.

That did look- And let me tell you, it was divine. She obviously shared, gave me some bites, but I'm telling you, the mac and cheese, so good. So good. And the chicken was like delicious. I would have never even thought to do that. I know.

Like put it in a waffle cone. Right. So like somebody came out with it on their light cheeses. Let me have one of those. But I wish I would have gotten, I had a BLT without the T and it was really good. I mean, it was good. Cause I think it was Canadian bacon,

but I will say like what Kristen had was this bowl of fruit with yogurt and a waffle cone and a waffle bowl. It was good. I mean, the way people think of different ways to make, I mean, you couldn't even figure out what you wanted. It took forever for us because they had nothing that you've ever seen before on a menu. And I love going to places like that.

Well, they say you eat with your eyes first, right? That's why I go to Walmart and pick up. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's true. I go to Walmart. If it looks good, the likelihood of you ordering it is very high. That's why everybody was looking up online

what the dishes look like. Absolutely. To see if they wanted to do it. But they didn't have that many. They're a new restaurant. They've been here. They moved from, I wanna say like Indiana or something like that.

But they moved here. What is that? I said what's the place you ate? Monkey something. Ask Heather, she has a memory like a steel trap. She'll be able to tell you. I'll look it up. Something monkey, but it was in Fort Myers.

Oh, Fort Myers. Bonita Springs area. So I can go with it. Yeah, no, I wish. And they just moved down here two years ago, opened up this place because it was very different and it was packed. They had, they were not hurting for business,

that's for sure, so. But the owner walks around to make sure you've enjoyed your meal. Is there anything besides the waitstaff, which was very good too, so. But yeah, did you guys have a good weekend? I did. What did I do?

What'd you do? I don't know. It was great. It was good coming off Friday night. And then did I do anything Saturday? I felt like it was at church the whole time. I know it does. Yeah, just laundry.

You didn't do anything fun on Saturday? I don't remember. I was home all day Saturday. Let's look at my camera roll. See if I took pictures. Yeah. I'm trying to remember. I don't think I did anything.

Oh, no. I went to Target in Costco. Target sucked. Why? Because I got the wrong shelves for my bathroom. Oh. Oh. That's the worst.

I didn't go to Costco. I went to Publix. So I did actually do stuff. See? And it was horrible because all the open. Yeah, and we had the fire Saturday, remember? Oh, Erin and I came, Erin and I had the fire. We lit our Christmas tree and a whole bunch of,

it looks like we were doing tax evasion because you were burning stuff. Oh my gosh, I find good. I was burning tax, I have every document since we opened up this place, the church. So I was like, it's time, we'll let it go. Plus it's been in storage, so I didn't have it to really. So I was like, I'm burning it.

Yeah, burn it. It's better than shredding. It goes way faster. Best way. But Aaron was loving it, because from 2011 he found a giving envelope from him, Nas, and Nas's sister.

So he grabbed them for memory's sake. Cute. Yeah. Raymond. Cute. But other than that, what about you, Vanessa? So my brother came into town and surprised us. Yeah.

And so we just spent time, his best friend. Oh, okay. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we just spent time, his best friend. Oh, OK. They looked really good. Oh my gosh, I didn't know that. And so after church on Sunday, it was like an impromptu softball game. And then it was just perfect weather. Yeah.

So yeah, just I'm telling you, my cup was overflowing this weekend. It was really nice. Hopefully everybody else's too. My heart was overflowing this weekend. It was really nice. Hopefully everybody else's too. My heart was overflowing. My tribe was together again. It's scripture. My cup runneth over.

That I'll take. The tribe part I can do without. Your bosom or something. Yeah, I think so. Your bosom too. All right, you and you boo. What about you, Tau? Did you have a good weekend?

Yeah, because I hung out with Erin and Tommy. She was supposed to go to our birthday party. Whoa. Wow. Whoa. We watched lots of computer. She was supposed to go to our birthday party, but went to the wrong place.

I went to the wrong place, and that other place was still an hour away. So I was like, who's not gonna make it? Yeah, not gonna make that. So. You went to a sandwich place. Yeah. Went to a market. What is that called? What's that sandwich place called... You went to a sandwich place. Yeah. Went to a market.

What is that called? What's that sandwich place called? We went to the Asian market. MacArthur's. Yes, main bar. Holy crap, that was so good. Main bars in Sarasota. That was so good.

We went to like the compound or whatever, the skate shop and everything with like the surfboards and everything. Whatever it's called. It was fun. Yeah. I was working. It's fun. Yeah. I was working. Freaking suck.

Oh well. It's rough in the big city. It is rough. I couldn't run over old people all day. Narma, stop it. She's joking guys. I'm not. Well, last time you were on,

one of the last times you were on here, you were talking about mature adults and they were highly offended. So just knock it off. It was with the old people too last time. Yes, mature adults. I'm not actually going to run people over, but is it in my mind? Yes.

It is. It's in every, don't, none of you lie. It's all in your guys's mind too. I like old people. When you're in the middle of Walmart or Publix or wherever y'all shop. I don't shop. Whatever.

On the house. Instacart, Instacart. It's on the road. You look at them, you go, I bet you they're old because they're going slower than molasses. Going down a steep. You're gonna be an elderly woman one day. You're like, remember when I used to.

Remember when. We're like, remember when I used to. Remember when. We're losing viewership as we, as the minutes go. As the minutes go. And I hope I die before I get really old. Oh my gosh, we're not going anywhere. Stop it. Okay, Tracy, I'm gonna cut it off right now. Tracy, do your thing.

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Of course. Oh my gosh. I know. She's getting out of the cold. She did. She said I had to get away from the Massachusetts cold. That was her exact comment. Oh my gosh, you got one heck of an Airbnb.

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I know we talked about it earlier. So next is Saturday night, March 8th, Crave, a night of worship. If you go to our events page, foundationchurchfl.com and click on events, it's all the information's there, but just plan on being there. It's gonna be a great night.

You can invite all your friends, all the people, childcare for that, correct? That's someone that has childcare. Yep, so there's childcare. And so don't, no excuses, no excuses. Come if you need healing, if you need anything. I'm literally expecting miracles. And like I just expected every single Sunday.

I don't know what it is, I'm switching back to us. I literally expect when I go in on Sunday morning during worship that if anything's wrong with my body that it comes into alignment with the word of God because of how powerful our worship is. I just, I expect it. I don't need to know if something's going on. I don't need to know.

I just go in and I have an expectation that I will receive healing from the top of my head to the bottom of my toes. So when we have nights like Crave, and I know what you guys all probably see me, I'm running around all the time during worship, but I feel like the anointing literally through my entire body the whole time.

When I get to the back and everybody's a little bit more like, mellow. Like this. Yeah, the back. People sit in the back for a reason. Yeah, you feel the lifting a little bit, but I'm walking around and I, just because I'm working, it doesn't,

I feel so engaged in worship. So, nights like Crave are great just to just lay everything at the door, come in, just be expecting and to the point of even miracles in your body. Yep, I agree with you. Yeah. If you expect it, you'll receive it.

That's the facts. Amen. That's the truth. Are we ready to go, girls? We're ready, let's do this. Let's do it. First question. How do I break generational curses that are in my family? So first and foremost, if you are saved,

though scripture says the curse has been broken. So do you receive that? I wish sometimes when I get these, I don't have full info, which is a real problem for me. Cause if I knew the whole entire story, then I would know whether or not you're saved or not. If you're not saved, the only way to break a curse is to get saved. That's just the way it is.

Otherwise, it'll just keep perpetuating itself. If you are saved, then the curse has been broken because Deuteronomy 5.9 clearly says that, and you shall not bow down to them nor serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the followers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me." So you don't serve him, then the curse continues on to the third and fourth generation.

But that clearly indicates that if you do not hate him, then there's a difference, correct? Those who hate him, then the curse continues. But if you do, then the curse is broken. And I mean, the thing is, is like when I was growing up, like my maiden name is McHenry. And so what would happen is, like every time we tried to do a project, which, you know, we were a faith-based family, so I have no idea why we said this, which is so stupid.

But every time like my dad would work on the car or a project needed to be done, inevitably something always went wrong. Almost every single time you go on a trip and inevitably the car would break down. And we always called it the McHenry curse. What were we doing to ourselves? That's life and death in the tongue.

Right, yep. So you claim that you have a curse, guess what you got? A curse. And so every single time, and that's what people do, that are saved, they sit there and they all say, what does it always happen to me? I can always count on, if I do something, it's not gonna work.

Everything's always broken. I mean, there's value in the words that we say. And so there can be good value, there can be negative. But Galatians 3.13 says, Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us, for it is written, cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree. So you are free.

You're free from any kind of curse, but do you grab hold of it? And what are your words? I mean, I'm sure you guys have heard people like they claim things over themselves. And like for example, people all say alcoholism runs in my family. Okay, that's you're continuing that curse on. When you became saved, if everyone before you is not saved, and you became saved,

alcoholism generationally ended with you. Because you're not going to be an alcoholic. Why? Because you are, old things passed away, all things become new, you are new. And so it's not possible unless you want it to be possible. Correct. I mean, do you know what I'm saying girls?

You wanna add some stuff? Yeah, I have a friend who went into new age practices because she was trying to protect herself from suicide because her grandma committed suicide, her dad committed suicide. And so she knew that generationally, like there's a chance that she would commit suicide. So she wanted to break that for her kids.

So she got into new age practices and even went to see a witch at one point. They told her, I can't see anything past the age of 40. And so she's had to break these things, these words over her. She's now a believer though. Yes, right. And how old is she?

39. She's 39, her birthday is when? November. November. Yeah. She'll be past that. Yeah, so she's completely, yeah, she's been totally healed of it and gone and released and all the things,

but that's what she knew. That's all she knew. So she tried to figure out how to do it in her own strength and then she met Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, it's very, very sad because a lot of people try and do things in their own might and in their own flesh and it's just not possible.

But through the words, you see the promises that God has given you. And like 2 Corinthians 5 17 that says, "'Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. "'Old things have passed away. "'Behold, all things have become new.'" That's a promise. Now, whether you receive that promise or not, it's on you.

I mean, you can believe that the old man is reigning and living and has dominion, or you can say those days are gone. Oh, like people always, like if they go to the doctor, they're already ready to list all of the health issues that everyone prior to them has had in their family that are hereditary. I don't know any of them.

I don't wanna know any of them because they don't apply to me. So for me, when I go to the doctors and if they ask you like, what is your family history? I don't mark any of that stuff because that's not my history. Yeah, same. So I don't know, I literally, if, I mean,

if I think about it, I probably know what some people died of, but for the most part, I don't wanna know and I don't care. It does not pertain to me. And that's how you walk in freedom. You don't like dwell on those things and you don't believe that they pass on to you and then to your children and so on. Yeah, I think that's why it's so important as believers

that we are reading our word and we know the promises that are given to us. And his word says people will perish for lack of knowledge. And so if you don't know what God says about you, then maybe that's a really good area to start with. Yeah, everybody uses the word identity, but you are new, you are new, and you have a new identity in Christ.

So you need to find out what that is. What does that look like? And I will tell you, whatever Jesus looks like is what you look like. It's pretty simple. Absolutely. He's royal. He's got divine health.

He's righteous and holy holy and he's pure. And those are all those things and some that you are. Yeah, absolutely. Whether you realize it or not, but the sooner you realize it, the more free you are. And you don't look at yourself in the light that you did as an unbeliever. And I think that's what destroys people

in their countenance is because they believe what the world has told them versus what the word has told them. And there's two different things. Or what they've seen, what they've seen with their own eyes. Like, you know, they've gone through cancer. So they're like, well, like I did go through it. You know, it did get me.

And then all of a sudden it's like, now you're susceptible to that lie. Right. Instead of just walking it out, whatever the word says is what's true. Yeah. True. I always harken back to, and I just was telling somebody about this today, but it's the Lord's prayer.

Whatever, I mean, Jesus himself told us to pray that prayer. Yeah. He said, when you pray, pray like this. Our Father, who art in heaven. I won't go through the whole thing, but it goes to our Father who art in heaven, how it be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

So if you take those verses that I just said, thy kingdom come, thy will be done. So whatever is the Lord's will is based on what is in heaven that which we can have on earth. It's his will that whatever is in heaven, we can have on earth. Does that make sense? Yes.

So if it's not in heaven, then we don't need it. If it is in heaven, then it is ours. Like finances, okay, it's, it's, they are wealthy up there. Okay. So you should be wealthy. There's no sickness up there. So he doesn't want you to be sick. There's no depression, there's no anxiety, there's no sadness. I mean, it goes on and on and on. Whatever's in heaven is what's yours. And if it doesn't exist up there, then don't deal with it down here. I mean, obviously if somebody passes away,

you're gonna mourn for them for a period of time. But even that should be limited. Because if they are saved, what are you sad about? I mean, you're sad for yourself and I get that. Yeah, exactly. And there's a time for you to be sad about your loss and that you're not with that person, but they're not sad. They don't wanna come back.

I mean, they just won the lotto. Yeah, exactly. I mean, for crying out mean, they just won the lotto. Yeah, exactly. I mean, for crying out loud, they just won the lotto. And that's there where we're all striving to be. So everything with perspective, even with the perspective has to be spiritually sound and word worthy when we're looking at like negatives and positives and mostly negatives,

cause people thrive in the negatives more than they do in the positives. They literally don't want to believe that all that God has for them is actually right there for their taking. And they allow life experience to kind of like dictate what they... it reminds me of the verse that Pastor Tom shared with us on Sunday, Matthew 9 17, and no one puts new wine into old wine skins for the old skins would burst from the pressure of spilling the wine and ruining the skins. New wine is stored in

new wine skins so that both are preserved. And then he followed that up with, don't sow reason into the miraculous. You can't sow your life experience when you're wanting to see a miracle. Right, because what they'll say is their life experience, they'll say, well, that's because it's not God's will. But when in all actuality, it's either doubt and unbelief, there's multiple reasons people don't see

what they're believing for. One, and I was just talking about this again, this morning with somebody, one, it's doubt and unbelief. And Tom usually only addresses doubt and unbelief, but there's multiple reasons. In Mark 11, it says unforgiveness. If you're not healed, or if you're not seeing what you're believing for,

and I'm specifically talking about healing, but it says, actually it's 11, 21 through 24, if I remember. It says if you speak to the mountain and you say, be cast into the sea. And then if you go down below that, it talks about walking in unforgiveness and don't expect that you'll get anything

with unforgiveness. So what I'm saying to you is, if you're not receiving what you're believing for, examine yourself. One is, do you have unforgiveness in your heart? And if you do, then get that fixed. You either go to the person directly and, you know, repent or what have you. Or just say, you know what, Lord, I'm letting it go. I'm not holding anything against anybody and I'm believing that no one's holding anything against me.

So there's unforgiveness, there's doubt and unbelief, there's sin. Now, when I say sin, sin, you know, Jesus healed, I mean, most of the people he healed were not saved guys. I mean, they were not. In fact, it says that in the word that most of the people that he saved did not follow him. So they rejected him actually. So can you be, I actually sometimes I'll be honest with you, I like and prefer to pray

for people who are not saved versus those who are saved. And the reason is, is my odds are extremely high that those people are gonna see what they're believing. You know why? Because they haven't been taught a lot of bad doctrine and they don't walk in with a theology that you have to overcome and and reteach. They walk in with a clean slate. If you tell them that this is what the Word of God says, guess what? They believe it. So if this is what He says, then this is how it's going to be. And they receive because they haven't gotten mucked, admired, and needed a new renewing of their mind based on bad teachings. And um, yep. So that's why people don't see the things that they want. Does sin separate you from the Lord? I think the more that you know, the

more you're responsible for, and so sometimes I think sin can separate you from getting your healing because the Lord would rather you get rid of that sin than get your healing and do first and then get the other. But on the whole, I don't think a lot of times sin does keep you from getting healed. I do think it can. Unforgiveness definitely and doubt and unbelief 100%. And then the last one that I think it was, what was the other one that I had for? it was, what was the other one that I had four? There was one more. I can't remember what it is off the top of my head, but truthfully, those are the things that I think if we really attack them, we watch the words that we say, and we believe what the word of God says about us.

I mean, half the battle is knowing who you are in Christ, which helps you to receive all that you're believing for. Whether it is financial provision, or your kids being saved. I mean, knowing who you are in Christ, if you know who you are in Christ, then them being saved, they have a better chance. Why?

Because they're gonna want what you have. That's true. I mean, everything trickles down to that and knowing your word, knowing who you are, knowing that once you've walked away from a certain lifestyle that is not a godly lifestyle and how everything is upended. It literally, when you say the word repent,

it means you go the opposite direction from the way you are headed. If you're going in the opposite direction from the way you're headed, how can you be cursed? The cursing was that way, not this way. I just don't get it. So it's a renewing of your mind and a different thought process. And then you have to receive it. Yeah. So it's a renewing of your mind and a different thought process.

And then you have to receive it for yourself. Yeah. And you have to accept it that it's actually for you. And I don't know if people really believe that because they believe it's a lot easier to listen to your family and to listen to their lies and deception versus, and because the thing is, is a lot of people are saved

and then they have family members that aren't saved and they're well-meaning family and they do love you, but they're not speaking the true word of God to you. And are you going to be strong enough to say, that's not for me? I was just telling somebody yesterday, they are a person that doesn't believe just anything that's told to them. Man, that's refreshing. Like, they have to see it for themselves. They're just not going to believe it because you told them. And I'm talking about from anything going on in the world to biblically speaking. Like, if you were to tell them that this is what the Bible says, they're like the person that says you're gonna have to show that to me in the Word. Because I have not seen that, I don't necessarily subscribe to that, so where is that in the Word?

What if everybody did that? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's what the Bereans did. What are you talking about? Like they always, like they would receive the word and then they would go back into scripture and like reconcile it. Really? Yeah. I did not know that. Isn't that where John the Baptist who,

no, not the Bereans, it was the, that he grew up and was taught by. The, oh, what is their names? Can you look that up really quick for me? As soon as you're gonna say it, I'm gonna be like, oh, it was the, I wanna say Huckabees, but it's not the Huckabees. It's the, no, it's not the Maccabees.

What is it? How would my looking up? Cause I wrote John the Baptist was taught by taught by yeah. Taught scripture by, by we're going to add who. Yeah. There you are. Are you doing chat? GPT?

No. Zachariah. No. The Spirit of God? I know. Israel priest. Yeah, there's not like a name that you would probably... Yeah. Do you see who he was raised by? I don't know. No. But I just looked up the Bereans and they were, the Bereans examined the scriptures daily to see if what Paul and Silas preached were true, but they also received the gospel eagerly, but they always went back to check. I love that.

Yeah. Man, if we could just, oh my gosh. I think once you've been lied to enough, and not even lied, purposely lied, but people just told you what was tradition, eventually you realize, man, I made my truth off of that. And then I'm the type of person that if you tell me something, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'm like, I am gonna look it up.

And I might not say it in a moment, but when I go home, I'm looking it up. Or I might be literally looking it up, like, you know, behind closed doors. Well, you're talking to the person. I do sometimes, I'm like, I gotta find out if this is true. I gotta see if it's true, right. Yeah, yeah. Because I just...

E-S-S-E-N-E-S? No. Essence? No. Jewish sect? Okay. No. E-S-S-E-N-E-S? Essence? Jewish sect? Okay. That's what Chagy B.T. told me. They failed us. I hate.

So I think like the end all be all for this question is while you're looking that up is that if you are saved, the generational curse is broken. And so anything around you that looks like a generational curse, you're gonna have to just say, that's not for me. Great, exactly, stay away from it. Yeah, and don't like, it's so easy to let our mind wander. That's why the Bible is very clear about hold all thoughts

captive and make them obedient to Christ, because the enemy is gonna try to trick you and say like, well, you know, everybody in your lineage had breast cancer, now you have to go to the doctor and you go get a mammogram every single year and then all you're doing is causing so much stress on your body to go in there in general. Just like, what if I do have it?

And like that is so toxic to your body, like look at like actual chemicals. People don't realize that. They don't and if you just know you can't get it because you're in covenant and the generational curse is broken and you have the bloodline of Christ, what's the point of even going in?

You know, you're not gonna have it. Well, I mean, there are people that are like that. We'll use like your example. They will go specifically in to get testing done to what's the percentage or the chances of them catching, of getting cancer. Or they go, and if you do this, it's okay. But for me, I'm like, I'm not going to go in

and have my body parts squished and then zapped. I mean, that's actually what causes cancer. And everybody's thinking like, I'm like, I don't do that. Cause I believe what the word has said has said. And I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I don't go to the doctor every year to get a full checkup and a full exam. I mean, that's just me personally. I choose not to do that.

But I know lots of people who tell you don't do that because it has adverse effects. If you feel like you're supposed to do it, do it. But for me personally, I'm not doing it. I haven't since basically Norma's been born. I think that was actually, that's not true. I went one time so that Norma when she was very young, like early teenagers, early teen,

I was like, here's like if you ever have to go, here's what it's like. So like when she had, when she was gonna have pregnant, be pregnant, because she was so scared. I did not, first off. It sounds like a homeschool lesson. It was, she was, but I did, I did make her go so that she could see like this is what a doctor's visit

is like, don't be so scared of it, because she was petrified. Be very scared of it, yeah. I saw the thing that was going in and I went, no. Never. It's like, that's not happening. I'm not going. I know people will think that's probably weird

to do with your kid, but I'm just saying like. I was out of her head. It's not weird. Coming from someone who wasn't taught anything really. Yeah. I think it's super. That's why when Tom says we're very open in our family, there's pretty much nothing that's off the table.

Like you're right, Vanessa. Like you have to know those things. Yes. I was petrified the first time I had to go. My mom was like me though. My mom is like, I walk by faith, not by sight. And my mom did not go to the doctor every single year or anything like that.

Totally fine. My mom still doesn't. I mean, it's like, for me, that's where I stand. If you're not capable, listen, I tell people this all the time. When they ask me about going to the doctor or taking their kid to the doctor or whatever the case may be.

I'm not gonna tell you which way to go. I'm not gonna tell you whether you should go or not. What I am gonna tell you is if you have the faith to make the stand, then make the stand. But if you don't, make sure you're honest with yourself. And I say this to everybody, make sure you're honest with yourself.

That if you say, yes, I have the faith to make the stand, make sure you're being honest with yourself that you really do. Because especially if it's with your child and you're playing with your child's health or whatever or their future or whatever, you better know that you know that you know you're hearing the voice of the Lord. Otherwise, don't play with their health or don't play with whatever, because it's a big deal.

And lots of people don't take it like that. On certain things with my kids, I was like, I can stand on this, I'm not even worried about it, I know they're fine. And then there were times, like some people run to the doctor for everything, you should not be doing that. If they, the one thing is out of order,

you're running to the, or you're calling the doctor. Okay, you should not be doing that. That's not healthy, that's not good actually. That's actually a hypochondriac, or you're so full of fear that you're afraid that one little thing is bigger than what it is and you've got to overcome that. But on the big things, like I knew where I was at

and I wish I could tell you that I could just speak to it. The mountain moved and I saw the results with my kids. Sometimes, but most of the time, no. That wasn't the case. So, but with me, a lot of times it is the case for me. Like I don't mind making stands for me and my personal body and my personal health, because I have a certain level of faith that I know I'm pretty good.

Not, but when you're doing it for somebody else, it's a little different and you should consider it like that. Do you understand what I'm saying girls? I agree, and you know what's so cool, yeah, I totally agree with you, but what's so cool is there's times where Allison's not feeling well, and so we pray and we believe,

and then she's still not feeling good. I'm like, all right, do you wanna take something? And she's like, no. And I'm like, because she's in a church that she knows. And so, and of course, and if you're spirit led, you know when you're like, it's a big deal or it's not. I'm just not there yet.

And that's okay. And you can call on people, you could do what you need to do. But like you said, the thing is, it's not running every single time something happens. Give yourself the opportunity to go to the Lord for it. Yeah, is the stomach ache a stomach ache or is it an appendicitis?

Right, right, right. Like learned to know the difference so that you're not freaking out with a stomach ache that's not an appendicitis. Right. Right. Right. Okay. Like, learned to know the difference so that you're not freaking out with a stomach ache that's not an appendicitis. Right. Okay. But then when you see the appendicitis, then you need to, if you ever do, which you shouldn't, because if your faith is there, you never will. That's the truth. My faith was not, obviously. I mean, Norma had an appendicitis, but I believed and-

I was having period pains. Yeah, I believed and I told the doctor not to take it out if it was perfect. She gave me an earful and she went in and then she admitted that it was perfect. And she took it out anyway. Ah, stupid. And that's the thing is that you're at their mercy

when you're in there for the most part. You're going into enemy's territory, period. They're not there believing with you. They're not there hoping for the best. They are gonna make sure that they don't get sued, period. So whose team do you wanna be on? But then I have another situation with Tommy and I go in and it's not like I said to the doctor

with the appendicitis, I didn't say, no, she doesn't have an appendicitis. I didn't do any of that. I was just like, okay, listen, if you go in there and you don't think that there's anything wrong with her, then please just don't take it out because I'm a big person. Let's keep all of our organs. I mean, they're there.

And what's the big deal with sewing it up? And you know whether it's bad or if it's good. Right, right. But she didn't care because she was, she was a little snot rag anyway. She wasn't, she wasn't the nicest doctor and even the ER doctor and her did not get along very well, but yeah, but then I had a situation with Tommy and I sat and talked to the surgeon and he was like, I can do that for you. Not a problem.

It's all a different mindset. His was successful too. He came out successful. Like it's, because I didn't have the faith, but then when I got there, I was like, I'm gonna do one last stitch effort to make this thing. Like, yes, exactly. And then it does happen.

And it doesn't always go your way, but that's okay. It's like never give up. Right. Even in the last final moment. Amen. I'm like, I try never to quit. Yeah. But I also don't play around with certain things.

Again, stomach ache, appendectomy, know the difference, don't run for the stomach ache. And a lot of people, as soon as their kid is slightly off, they're like, we gotta go to the doctor, or we gotta go to the emergency room. That is a deadly thought process. And it is actually one that is so full of fear. It's dangerous.

Yeah, there's no freedom in it. It's just slavery to urgent that, to urgent care. Yeah, to thinking that they have the answer and you don't, that you don't have any authority and you've got to work a muscle. And then you miss an opportunity, you know, to like see the miraculous. Yeah.

Yes. Because once you see it once, you're like, oh. Let's do this again. And that not only impacts you, but like the people around you, like your kids, everyone who's involved, like you miss that opportunity. 100%. Yep.

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Never. And I've heard of some crazy stuff. Same. No. I mean, listen, I have seen some crazy stuff. I grew up in a Pentecostal church that like they let people run wild at times when I was very, very young. and it wasn't hey listen there is there is a thing there's order

the scripture Paul talks about having order in the service and that things have to look a certain way and if if they are not, they are not Holy Spirit driven. So people get caught up in a lot of emotionalism and it doesn't fall in line with the word of God. And they say things and they do things, they're not biblical. Be very weary of that stuff. I don't see this in the Bible.

I don't think it's a Bible verse. I haven't seen a Bible verse about it either. Why would this even happen? Why would you? I mean, and again, I'm okay. I let me just say this. I don't know if it's right or wrong. Okay. I don't know. I mean, the Holy Spirit will do whatever the Holy Spirit wants. But why, what is significant? Like for me, back in the day, people were talking about, there were certain churches and certain denominations where they were talking about how their teeth were being turned to gold.

Like their fillings and their mouths were being turned to gold. Do you know what I said to that? Why would he give you a gold filling when he can just fill- Give you a brand new tooth. Yeah, exactly. With no cavity. I'd rather have just a tooth.

Why would God do that? Right. So he's gonna replace your filling with a gold filling. But I don't understand that, but literally, and I'll be honest with you, that didn't sit right with me either. Was that in the eighties? No, no, no, no, nineties.

Okay. Nineties, excuse me, not nineties, 2000s. Early 2000s. I had gold dust falling and feathers from the ceiling. And then they were all found out that a lot of people that claimed this they got caught Placing things plate in places. I'm not saying every place that that happened But I'm saying to you that they were caught

And like I knew people who were getting gold Having their braces be the color of gold because they were big-time into. And I'm like, what does that do for the kingdom? Nothing, nothing. And the penny is the same thing for me. What does that, like instead of focusing on getting a penny to stick to the wall, if you've got the power of God flowing through you enough to make a penny stick to the wall,

why don't you go take that same finger that put that penny on the wall and start healing the sick. That's exactly what I was gonna say. Come on. Again, do I know if it's not? I don't know. It doesn't sit well with me, but I don't know for a fact that it's-

It feels like new agey. It does. You know? Yeah, it does. But I looked it up and it ain't new age. So what this is, I looked this stuff up and this is what I found. Some interpret it as a sign of God's power

or a message from a loved one acting as a faith building experience. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. One thing I saw was that like, cause they're not taping it to a wall, right? They're just trying to get to the wall without falling.

Tracy has a picture of somebody who's claimed that it's happened. They put glue on it. Okay, so it said that it's to like show like a miraculous, God's miraculous power as to how I can put this penny on a wall and the Lord will hold it for me. Okay, well, if you're doing that with a penny, why can't you do it for your body?

That's, yeah, that's what Hope was saying. Just go away. I know, yeah, this is- I mean, but- Does it not say, do not test the Lord your God? Yeah, it does. Which is one of the scriptures that came to my mind when I saw this.

Yeah, I'm not using penny because it's money. But is it testing God? I don't know. Like, that's one of the reasons why I didn't put the scripture in here because I'm like, are we testing him? I don't know. If that is helping you build your faith.

Right. Is it a test? Yeah. Yeah, I think, I don't know. The message from the loved one is where it starts to go a little bit. That I didn't like. That feels yucky. Yeah, so it said this, it said, some interpreted as a sign of God's power or

a message from a loved one acting as a faith-building experience. So then it goes on to say, so here's the breakdown on perspectives of this, okay? Faith and belief. So this is the summarization of faith and belief. For some, the act of a penny sticking to a wall or any seemingly unusual occurrence can be seen as a sign of divine intervention or a manifestation of faith. It can be a way to strengthen their belief and connect with a higher power. I don't like the way that sits. I'm gonna be honest. That sits like very witch doctor-y to me. I don't know. It's like with the whole like a loved one thing,

that sits weird. I don't know. Which is new, it sits more new age with me, which is you're not thinking, when you say witch doctor Norma, you're probably more thinking of like, of new age kind of thing. It just gives me a Nicky feeling.

Oh yeah, it gives me a Nicky feeling too. I don't know. I kind of want to try it. Of course you do. Can I be in another room? So when lightning strikes, it hits only you. Imagine if it did stick though. I mean, it kind of demonic to me.

Yeah. We can video record me doing it. But I don't know. I don't want to say it is because I don't know. I don't wanna say it is, because I don't know. Is that like your party trick when you go to like a new church and you're like, hey guys.

Look at my divine power. I wanna know who's doing it. Like I wanna see like- Raise your hand in the comments if you put a penny on the wall. Yeah, I wanna, because I could probably tell if it's demonic. See, he says it too.

I'm with him. I like this guy. I know, see. Sounds demonic. I'm with him. I like this guy. I know, see? Sounds demonic, I'm with you. How do you say it? Grit or done? Grit or done. Grit or done.

Grit or done. Grit or done, I'm with you. I don't like it. Yeah. I don't know. So then another thought process is after death communication. Right. Now that is very new agey, seancey, like fortune telling.

That's why I said it feels witchy. Like, I don't know. Some believe that these occurrences like pennies from heaven are messages from deceased loved ones offering comfort and assurance that they are still present. They're dead. They're dead. Yeah, yeah, they're dead. Someone's bored with their faith.

You know what I mean? Like you are bored and you're trying to like, do too much, do less. Do less, please. Or redirect it and go heal someone. Yeah. Oh my God. Or take that penny and buy a piece of gum

to give to somebody who would love a piece of gum. Yeah. Yes. Or take that penny and buy a piece of gum to give to somebody who would love a piece of gum. There's a video of a girl on YouTube doing it. I found a YouTuber. Of it literally sticking to the wall. Is there tape on the other side? It's sticky paper. I feel like they have those little things

that you can stick on the wall. They painted their door just five minutes ago. Well, they say that some of the fraudulent part is like what Norma said, sometimes there's like paint. If you go like this up the wall really fast, it will stick. Like static. Yeah, it looks kinda like that.

Yeah, static, Vanessa. It's just weird, I don't like this. But my thing is, is why, outside of those two reasons, like you're trying to communicate with the dead, which I biblically speaking, were advised not to do that. Outside of those two reasons, which again, don't sit well with me, what would be the reason behind this?

You're bored. Yeah. I think it's honestly, you're bored. Outside and boredom, good point. Excellent point. It's like people focusing on like things spiritually speaking that they shouldn't focus on. They should learn more about something else like winning the lost and healing the sick and discipling believers before they start working on all these other things that don't really amount to anything.

And I mean that, like, there are so many different theologies that people have that it's like, focus less on those theologies, let's focus on the things that Jesus said to win the lost and disciple believers. And we are to heal the sick. So, and when I say heal the sick, I'm not eliminating people being delivered

from demonic demonic possession. That's not what I'm talking about here. I'm talking about people who get half cocked onto different crap that just like doesn't even matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's putting pennies on walls and talking. Yeah. So this lady does it. The reason why she's doing it is energy wise. Like she's saying, because I'm reading like the caption, she's saying like as she's holding the penny to the wall, she's imagining, she's imagining the penny in the paint becoming one. Yeah. Yeah, but why? Does she say why? Like what biblically or faith wise does that help? She's exercising her power of intention energy.

Okay, she's new age, that's not Christianity. Yeah. Yeah, it's not great. But this was in 2011, so this has been going on for a while. Oh yeah, I'm sure. The day before our birthday. That's wrong, I mean, well, that's sad. Somebody's holding pennies to the wall.

I don't know, I don't get it. I mean, again, you know, I will say that sometimes the things that there are certain things I don't understand why it's done and God does. And it is like part of his process of faith or whatever. I'm not gonna make a mockery of something that I don't know anything about, but I will tell you, without mocking, I don't see it.

I don't see the reason for it. I don't understand it. If I saw somebody doing something like that that said they were a Christian, I would be very weary of them. Yeah. They would not sit well with me as another believer. I would sit there and go,

that's like a little out of the norm. And you go in my weird box. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes we don't understand. And I- True. So I don't want to like quench the Holy Spirit,

but I just, I just don't think it's the Holy Spirit. I'm going to be honest with you. I just don't. I agree with you, but not with a penny. I would say like, you have to be careful with like other things that maybe are not in your world of like what spiritual is. And is it really happening?

But it's a freaking penny. Are they really sticking to the wall? And every picture I've seen is up against a painted wall, not a wood door. Okay. So for me I'm like- Show us your wood door. Yeah, show us a wood door.

If you can get a penny to stick to a wood door. Or like tile. Or tile. Oh. Show me on tile. Show me on tile. Go put it in the bathroom on the tile. And I wanna see both sides.

I told you I'm gonna do it. I wanna see they're not sticky. We can film me doing it afterwards. Yeah, I'm not doing it. Tick tock. No, I'm not touching no penny to a wall. Oh my gosh. That's weird.

I will tell you. I will tell you do it. I will say- And you guys can watch and see if she has the power. I got the power. Yeah. You know that song? It's getting kind of hectic.

Back in the day, I used to use a penny whenever I had a nosebleed and I would put a penny on my forehead. I've heard that, that I've heard of before. Why? I don't know, cause my, it's a Spanish tradition, I guess. I don't know, but it stopped the bleeding. Is it like an old wise tale?

Yeah, like one of those things. I don't know if it's the copper in the penny that like helps to like stop the running. I don't know, but that's what my brain went immediately there when I saw this question. That's not what came to mind. I was telling him about how Tommy used to hold me down, drop quarters on my head.

Yeah, he did that. It hurt. Yeah, it did. One time. Yeah. It hurt. Yeah, it did. I cried one time. Yeah. It's weird, man. It is weird. I see no point to it, spiritually speaking and personally speaking.

It's no different than the tooth. Yeah, that, yes. I mean, I went somewhere one time to like one of those parties. Like it was like a Tupperware party, but it wasn't a Tupperware party. And at this party, it's like a jewelry party or something. I don't know. At this party, there was a lady there that claimed that God had taken her filling and

turned it in and replaced it with gold. And everybody jumped up. I sat still, but shocker, everybody jumped up, I sat still, but shocker, everybody jumped up and they were like, let me see, let me see, let me see. And all I could hear all of them saying is, I can't see it, where is it? No, no, it's really tiny.

It's all right, I'm like, mm-hmm, exactly. Stop it. I don't like that. I hope God can fill mine with gold because I need mine filled. I got a cavity. Yeah. And she doesn I hope God can fill mine with gold because I need mine filled. I got cavity. Yeah. And she doesn't respond to Novakine at all. Oh my gosh.

So Lord, fill it with gold. Yeah, you really need your miracle. She needs a new tooth. Everybody in the comments, just a brand new tooth. Pray for me to get a new gold tooth. No, just a regular tooth. Just a regular tooth, please. She wants to show her to your gold tooth.

I wanna show people my gold tooth, mom. Blang, blang. I'm gonna show get her done my gold tooth. I like him. Oh my gosh. Need him or one now. There you go, mine never matter. Yes, that's what I like to hear. Oh my gosh, lords of mercy.

Well, thank you for joining us today. On that note. On that note. No pennies to walls. No pennies to foreheads. of mercy. Well, thank you for joining us today. On that note. On that note. On that note. No pennies to walls. No pennies to foreheads because I just looked it up and it's a myth. It's woo woo. It is?

It kind of made sense to me. I don't know why. The copper, you know. Actually, Tanya's gonna perform it on the wall and we'll have it later on on social media for everybody to see. Okay. Yeah.

We'll post it on our whole potluck Instagram page. Check it out. If you're on TikTok, we'll have it on TikTok. We media for everybody to see. Okay. Check it out if you're on TikTok. We'll have it on TikTok. We'll have it on Instagram and we will share it on Facebook for everybody to see. It's a great day at the whole pot line. See you on Friday. Thanks for tuning in. Real talk. Real talk.