The Hope Hotline - Growing In Faith | 2 Peter 1:1-10 | Part 3

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E70 | 10-29-2025

Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Hello, and welcome to the Hope Potline. I took my ear thingy out, and now I'm putting it back in. I'm sorry.

I'm pretty sure I saw it in your ear. I did. And I took it out because I had to unplug my computer. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. It was professional podcast on the face of the earth. Absolutely. How you doing today, people?

It's so good. Doing. So good. Now, Vanessa did something very sweet. She said she was going to do it, and she did. Every single one of us have a Dubai chocolate yuppie bowl. Oh, I can't wait. Yes.

Okay. Okay, so Yuppie Bowl is here in Port Charlotte, and they have the best assayee bowls. and Sarah turned us on to them. Yeah, she did. Yeah. And we love her and hate her all at the same time. Mostly love. Mostly love.

Because these are so dang good. I'm so excited. I'm joiling. It's, I mean, they're the best. The best of, are you already eating? Those are so slow. Holy molly. All together.

At the same time. Forget that. Every man for himself, apparently. I have an opinion right now. okay what's your opinion my opinion is there's no crunchies there is I don't taste them you have to get down they're right in the middle mm-mm I see them no I need more of of Emma's crunchies and crumble you can ask for extra but that's the whole point oh maybe because mine is nice very frozen right there okay now I see them

I love, I love these so much. It's so good. I love, I love, I see, ascii bowls. No, it's very good. That's a winner. Why am I by myself? You don't like it?

I don't think so. I keep trying it to make sure. I'll eat the whole thing. Don't get me wrong. Even if I don't like something. And I like the chocolate checks on that. It doesn't stop me. from eating it.

Same. I can't believe you don't like it. What do you not like? Because it's kind of like chocolatey and the strawberries. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Does my have bananas? Mm-mm. No.

Are you sure about that? Yeah. Are you trying to body shame me, Jer? He just said this is not on my meal plan. Wow. He just said you're fat. Yeah. Yes.

I'm going to be lying. No, we want your honest opinion. That is really good. I feel like there's banana in there. It does. Now that you said that, I can taste banana. But I don't think there is banana. Maybe it's the crunchies that because they need.

Maybe you should do like taste testing on her TikTok. Oh, that would be fun. nobody would watch I would enjoy it what's that right there what right here what is that

I can't see I think it's isn't it just the Dubai chocolate and then strawberry that's strawberry I'm telling you I think I think there's banana in here

maybe the strawberries aren't in season then. Did you taste banana, Kelly? See, yeah. It can't taste like peanut butter. Really? We're all so confused. Does pistachio ever taste like banana?

Let's ask chat, GBC. I know. All these mixtures. It might. I don't know. I'm sure it never tastes like banana. But I was like, well, maybe I'm wrong about that. I don't know that.

It doesn't taste like that. Jair says hope looks concerned. I'm confused. Whatever. Okay. Okay. I have a story. Let's go.

It involves Jare. Oh, boy. Now I'm scared. I had a dream. Okay. And Jair was in it. So was Tracy. Oh.

I was there. Okay. Was there anybody else? I'm never nice in anybody's dreams, so I'm a little concerned. Jarrah says I'm always mean in his dreams. Was I nice to you? No, I was mean. Oh, I guess I'm getting paid back.

Okay. I was mean to Jerr, though. Where were we? Set the scene. I want to know all the details. We were somewhere. Okay. This is good.

This is good. And we were all sitting around. Heather's laughing. We were somewhere. Okay. And we were all sitting around. It was a big group of us. Tom was there.

I don't know where he was at, but. And I only found out he was there because when we were leaving, which I'll get to. But. Okay. I taste banana, Heather. Heather. Taste it. Norma won't.

Please take care of this. Go to the middle, Heather. And eat more than one bite. Sorry, people. Eat more than one bite. Thank you. Oh, wow. But there's no banana.

What's the problem? God bless you, Heather. I knew I wasn't crazy. Do you like banana? I love. banana but I wouldn't have it with my assay I mean I wouldn't have it with my assayi I wouldn't have it with um my Dubai why so whole point is you eat fruit with Dubai no Dubai is Dubai chocolate what no way Norma saying that it and she's agreeing with

tell you now see Nora see Heather it made her sick she had to go get something to drink no i don't want to sit as we enjoy it no okay back to my story okay back to my dream yeah please show your dream so we were all sitting there and somewhere i don't know where i felt like it was an RV because it was kind of close it was like a it was like a meeting setting and heather i mean uh Heather wasn't there but um Heather was not there no true Tracy and Jare, you were sitting directly across from me. Okay. It was like a sitting area.

You're directly across from me. I feel nervous. Okay. Uh-huh. And then there was like three people over here, a girl and two guys over here, and then there were people over here. And I don't remember, but it was not like a huge amount, maybe three more people. And in this meeting, Jair, like, said something. and it was kind of like

accusational but like it was not appropriate like not appropriate in that setting you know what I'm saying I do I totally know what you're saying which I blame him but

so he was out of line in what he said and how he's in what he said which is so not Jare if you know him but it well except for unless you're married to him but with me it was like

it was kind of like not correct and I jumped his crap like like I was like basically I can't remember word for word but I pretty much said

not the right time not the right place and if you like if you want to have this discussion kind of thing we can have this discussion right now oh yeah and so What is that? That sounds like you. Yeah, that does sound like me.

So then, like your eyes were as big as dollar signs. His eyes were his biggest dollar signs. And so I stopped the conversation. I kind of like propped up or I was standing up kind of like in my like commandment, commanding, you know, whatever. Yeah, you're tough. And shut up. And so then I sat back down or I leaned back. I can't remember exactly.

Okay. So maybe too much detail. No, just lean in. Keep saying it. So then the Holy Spirit, right then and there, corrects me. And basically told me I was wrong and that I needed to apologize to him immediately. For even though I might feel justified because of he began something that I felt like I should finish, that was out of, that was out of, of, that was not the right time, the right place, either for me. And there was a better way to have handled it.

And so, like, literally I suck the oxygen out of the room by my response. Of course. Yeah. Not the first time either. So in this, so then the Lord basically says obedience. Obedience is better than sacrifice. So are you going to do what I tell you to do, or like, like commanding? do what I tell you to do, or you don't have to, but that's not what's best kind of thing.

And so I go to him in front of everybody. I apologize to him, humbly, honestly, lovingly, apologized to him with contrite. No, he didn't. He was obviously Jair and the thing and was just very appreciative of my apology. but in that apology it was done like so Christ-like like I'm watching myself and I'm like I'm learning the Lord is like teaching me through this whole entire dream and I watched myself do it and and the whole entire time no one in the room would think that I was just doing it to do it they would why are you laughing because chairs has all this commentary and me and tell

at the same time go chair exactly the same exactly the same yeah I want you to still like Jare so keep going I love him yeah yeah yeah I don't but I'm going to eat it either way that was also what she said okay yeah so yeah so yeah so you're learning from this not until later

but I'm watching myself I'm like man it's like an out of body experience I'm there But later on, I'm watching. I can watch the whole entire thing like a movie. But there was no question about the integrity of this apology. I mean, it was not one in which somebody would say she just did that because she had to.

It was a genuine lovingly not condoning anything, but I didn't even delve into any of that. because sometimes you justify why you do something when you say, I only did that because of this, but I was wrong. Right, right, right. Are you really sorry then? No, I know. Don't even. Come back later.

Yeah. Unless you're saying when you did that, my response was because of that, but I was so wrong, even if you did do that. I should have never. That's when I don't think that somebody is trying to justify their action because they're calling. Yes. You know. They're just their demeanor in the way they do it.

Yes. totally so then i went to the other people in the room oh wow and apologized to each of them for sucking the oxygen out of the room very lovingly very contrite and so everybody everybody and afterwards so like you know the meeting or the time together is never going to be the same after you do something like that even if you apologize you might as well just close up shop and call it a day yeah which is basically what happened But I remember Tom walking, we were leaving. And Tom said to me, he said, that was, he said, I'm very proud of you.

I remember him saying something to the, to the effect, I'm very proud of you. And like, the way you did that was so honest and so pure and so genuine that, like, that's, that was tough. Yeah. To do because it was so humble. Yeah. and when i and so quickly like you it sounds like it was so quick so to like control your anger and then rebound i woke up this morning it was the first thing when i woke up like i literally finished that dream and felt like i woke up immediately and i laid there in the bed and i talked to

the lord about it and i said to the lord first of all i thanked him because that was a great learning lesson for me. Like, now I know, like, I visually know, like, when I do something wrong, like, how I want to do it in the manner in which I want to do it, because apparently I might be needing to do this in the future. Right. That's what I thought. Sometimes God either is preventing something so you don't have to do it, or he's teaching you so that when you do have to do it, how to do it correctly. Yep. But I said to the Lord, first of all, thank you very much for allowing me to see how to truly apologize in a manner which is so loving, honoring, and humble. Because I want to be humble. My whole response, and this is what the Holy Spirit told me, your whole response, when I was having

the dream, your whole response is prideful. It's like, holy crap. Man, that's like crazy. like when you respond like that it's completely out of pride and it was true and i reflected back on that when i was laying in the bed this morning i was like it was completely out of pride that the reason why i lashed out at him even though he shouldn't have said what he said but what was my response and why was my response because a lot of times we're only responsible for our side of things and how we handle it it's like when we went to it's like i say and i and i used this as an example but I do teach it a lot is if you're submitting, how do you submit? Right.

And how you submit is your responsibility to the response in having to submit. I mean, like, you can submit and you can be rebellious in your submission and be like, make it known. Yeah. I'm submitting to you, but I don't agree with you the whole entire. And this and this and this and this and are you really submitting? Right. No. Exactly.

You're not. True. Very true. You're just making it very difficult for the person who, who has to make the decision and answer to God for through the whole entire process. True. So you answer for that, and that was the same thing with this. Like how you respond is the part that you answer for.

And I was like, man, that is so, because I never think about it like that in situations like that. I never think about how I respond will I answer for. I just always am like, well, I'll just tell them the truth. but sometimes how you tell the truth isn't always the greatest either. I don't know because it's sometimes, I don't know if I'm conveying what I'm trying to say correctly, but all I'm trying to say is that when I woke up, I was like, great lesson learned.

I'm taking that with me. And thank you God for letting a dream not just be something that, you know, because so many times you dream it means absolutely nothing and you get nothing from it. But I was like, that I learned something from. I think there's a science to speaking truth and love there is

100% I haven't learned to yet do so it penetrates it does deeper than just you know saying the first thing that comes up to your brain although it's true

that the delivery might not be one that they can receive and kind of like take in yeah and you got to actually experience what it was like to be wrong, according to God, and then do it right, and then, like,

how it feels so good to do it God's way. You know what I mean? Like, if God tells you, you need to stand up and you need to say no to something, when you do it, you feel good. Like, you know, like, this was not a time to just, like, not say something. Right. But a lot of the times, it is to respond in a way that is very cautious. But, like, speaking truth and love, it doesn't mean that you're past.

right exactly it's knowing it's knowing what the spirit wants in that very moment whether it's a kind word or a hard one yes you need to know the difference between the two in the moment right right and that's and that's discernment it is and that's tough and but the closer you get to god the more you know exactly what to do but you got to actually like experience the outer body it was weird and like awesome and yeah and the comfort that came after it and then the fruit of it like pastor tom saying that was amazing like that was so like awesome to see you do that and then how you went to each person and how the room probably like got lighter just because you did that and and it shows your heart in it that you were like that was wrong however my response could have been better yeah I mean oh my gosh

like to see somebody like even though it was me but it wasn't me yeah to see somebody be humble like that it's like I try and do those things but I'm not consistent in those things yeah so I'm probably more like that with my family than with anybody else but I didn't grow up in a home where you apologized saying I'm sorry was not a thing like Tom has really

been very patient like I can say I'm sorry very easily now like I can it's not a problem for me at all to say I'm sorry if I really know that I'm wrong but there is a and I'm very genuine with my family when I tell them I'm sorry but with other people sometimes you're like especially since it's business so many times it's so business related that you're kind of like got to be not doing that

la la la la la la la la black and white but even in business I think that it's all relational it's all relational it really is yeah like we're like crazy we're constantly doing things too and I've realized like in order to fix issues in our company the best thing to do is to have each person and do a self-evaluation. And so we focus on the things, like, where could you do better in these situations and make it very specific to their role in what they do, but they have to come.

As a review, or what are you talking about? If something happens, do you do that? Like, right, we're going to do it, like, now. Going into 2026, we're going to, like, look at, like, your role as customer service rep. And, like, if you, let's say, for example, you miss a call. Well, what is, why are you missing that call? Like, what is preventing you from doing your best job?

and is there, is it something at home? Is it because your phone isn't working? And I don't know that. I don't even know that your phone's been glitchy because you just, you just don't tell me because it eventually works. And so it's a way for me not to ever be like, well, you're not answering the phone because of this. You come to me and you tell me why you're not able to do your job the best.

And then in that scenario, we can kind of like figure it out. And how can I, because my job, okay, so this is really cool. Pause. Hold on. Go backwards. Yeah. So we have somebody that works with us. And his name is Brian.

And he had our guys fill out a rolls. So like me and Jair own the business, we're at the top. And then the boys were underneath them. And then the girls were here because they service them. And then it goes down like this. And so he asked them when they were done to flip the paper upside down. And so the people on the bottom are actually

servicing everybody above them. And so if you are the second person, that means anybody that you said was under you is now above you and you're serving them. So Tracy and Jare responsible for serving every single person in the company. And when your mindsets like that, your whole demeanor changes because now everybody that works from me is actually I need to service them and make sure that they are able to do their job with excellence. Because it all falls from leadership. If there's

problems in the company, it's coming from leadership. Either we're ignorant to it or somebody's being sneaky or whatever, all the reasons why. But when you have relationship with people, like people to have relationship with each other don't sue each other. They try to work things out. people that sue each other are the ones that have no relationship are like they don't care they don't think of that person as a person it's like you hurt me i'm going to get you back but when you're relationship with people there's grace you know so even in business it is so important to have relationship with the people that you're in business with it's so true and to be grateful it's so funny because like um it's not sometimes not probably a couple times a month like um as i

am especially on the younger side of kids i need to do it more with hospitality but um when you're i have to go down every sunday through like the sidekicks area which is the the nursery it's the area that nobody wants to work i mean everybody doesn't mind working in children's church because they're older they're more like independent and it's just easier yeah you film in a game room for about 20 minutes and they sit down they know their rules they do the thing right you teach them it's just a whole little different thing and it's so funny because you'll walk through and you'll say thank you to the different departments and if it's somebody that you've never said thank you to before they are so appreciative that you say thank you to them yeah yeah and i just think

to myself man a thank you goes a long flipping way because if people know that you appreciate them I mean, I mean, people are very nice to me for the most part. I get people are very nice to me and I'm very grateful for people being very nice to me. So even working, like even working in the nursery, even though, you know, not a lot of people go in there and most people that use it probably don't think, think them. But just somebody is not even using the facility or the department of that and being grateful for them to work it. like this is i think very nice for them to hear somebody who's not even using the nursery say thank you for working in the nursery i'm like i ain't even helping you out but right well in all actually actually that's not true because you are helping me out because we're a team and like

if you don't work the nursery then tom can't preach right or hope will be in there and i will be in there and let me just tell you i know kids are not going to live. I might be in jail. Oh my gosh. Because when I come in, you're doing what I say. It's true. It's so funny because when I used to work like different, when I worked to the kids

who tell you knows this because tell you was in my children's church, I would literally say I don't care. I would say, I don't know how you do it at your house, but you're in my house now. And we do things way different in my house. then you do it yours. So you're going to do what I say. And then you have some that just really buck the system. Right.

And I literally would say, you will break before I do. You will break before I do. Scary. What is that? It's scary. When you only, again, that you don't have relationship with these kids. Well, some of them you probably did. But like when these kids are coming in for one hour once a week, like it's different than

if you're at school for eight hours and it's your teacher. Like when you're a substitute. teacher you have to go in and you have to be tough because they're going to run you over so you know you are in a situation where you do have to control the room we do it at you well we do yeah we would do uh children's church for about an hour and a half sometimes right and i would have all of them to myself i'd be the only teacher in the room i'd have no helper yeah it'd be zero it would be kindergarten to fifth grade yeah and literally be could be upwards to 35 maybe 40 kids at a time that's a lot of kids and and you're the only one in there you better have

charge of the class because nobody's going to learn the one the squeaky wheel will run the whole entire class and no one will learn about Jesus correct which is the purpose for that but I hardly ever had to tell parents the only time I I'm going to dime somebody out right now it's not me no it's not you yes um I I only had to tell two parents in my whole entire life about their kids. One would be Vanessa's and it ain't Emma. No. And the other one would be a Parker child.

And it wasn't Levian. Very strong willed children. And like I waited until I couldn't take it anymore and I was like, we're done. I'm done. Both of them were petrified of their first. fathers. It worked out great, which is so funny because usually those kinds of kids don't have really great fathers at home. They don't. Both of them have really good, strong fathers. And so both of them got punished. Both of them had like their consequences for their actions. Most

kids, there's no. And both of them would beg me, please, oh, please don't tell my dad. Oh, I'm telling them. I would always be like my mom for the, like, for the first six months, I'd be like, okay, we're going to start all over. Yeah. Clean sight. Yeah. There you go. You got to do it. Yeah.

Then I was like, okay, we ain't starting over and I am telling your dad. So can I watch? I want to watch. Oh my God. You would. No, I didn't. That's funny. Now he's the most chill kid ever.

I know. He was pretty chill then. He just wasn't cooperative. To be honest with you, like you tell him to do something, he just look at you like, I ain't listening to you. Not my son. Joking. Yeah.

it would be a or it was constant joking with his friend which I can handle that he's a boy like boys are going to do that right I mean I like boys who are boys I don't want a boy to not be like I don't even mind boys that fidget I mean they have a lot of energy that doesn't bother me either it's when you're disobedient and defiant right that's when I'm like okay obviously we're not getting anywhere me and you we're not having a meeting of the minds you know not everybody clashes with everybody but my son got in trouble too all the time so right shucker shocker so tommy did too i mean but he's all boy yeah and he's headstrong yeah and i was the same way in school i got in trouble for the same things so and i ain't no boy but i was full i was a ball of energy you were full of it i was full of it so it is what it is so um the dream like that's pretty wild huh Very wild. I think if people learn to tell people they're sorry, that's the first thing.

I do too. Like really mean it too, like you said, not just like, yeah, sorry about that, you know? It's so important to be authentic. And it's so important to, like, I know lots of people who grew up like me and sorry was never said. Right. Everything swept underneath the carpet. And, you know, the Bible says that you train up a child in the way they shall go and they're old. They will not depart from it.

That's not just, like, going to church on Sunday. No, it's good training, veteran. So, yeah, so, like, even we were talking about it, like, a lot of my girls' friends don't celebrate their birthday. They just didn't. It wasn't, like, a big thing growing up. Like, they would go have a birthday, but, like, it's always been a big thing for me because my mom made it a big thing for me. So, you know what I mean? So it's, like, it's funny, though.

Some kids are like, me. Like, yeah, they're just, like, don't care. And I'm like, what? No, you have to care. It's your birthday. I'm older now. Like, I don't care so much. But when I was a kid, and when I was in high school, like, I wanted my locker decorated.

Right. And I was decorating everybody else's lockers. Like, it was a big deal. Right. I know. Like, it mattered. Your birthday is big. How you were trained up.

There was just something. And it's as little as those things. And then if you were trained to not say sorry, if nobody said sorry around you, of course you're going to grow up and not think that that's necessary. But there's a consequence to that. There is a big consequence. And then there are things like when you live in that kind of. home it's you justify you're wrong because you don't want to say you're sorry you justify the wrong

or you skirt around the issue so that it doesn't have to be addressed or so that you don't say you're sorry or so that you don't get in trouble it's not healthy and a lot of people live in those homes or grew up in them and truthfully it goes back to what we're learning in second Peter 1 through 5 and 10, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to address it because I thought it was also great because the thing is is it's one of the keys to, which is a self-control thing, but it's one of the keys to going to heaven and being saved. And you have to look different. You have to be different and you have to sound different. And you have to be humble. and I mean if you think about it

Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible and even he said about himself that he was humble and modest he wrote that about himself and you know what it's true he could still be those things and it still be true so you can acknowledge yourself

and your great qualities and not be prideful about them them still be true and be able to because you exude them you're an example of them and the more of a Christian you are it's like oh I wish I would have sent this to you I send it to Tom I'm going to send you this okay I send it to Tom Anthony oh no nuts dang it was it on your Instagram was on my Instagram but the one I sent him was about he did a phenomenal oh I'm going to send that to you anyway he did this great thing on eternal security oh my gosh it was so good I sent it to Tom because no one teaches about eternal security and I know that's hyperbolic but for the most part

nobody preaches on it right nobody talks about it nobody there's so many people there are like, I didn't know about that. I actually believed, they don't know about the term. But what's crazy is even though they didn't know the term, they actually believed it. Yeah. They believed in that theology. And that theology is actually never taught to them, but it was never not taught to them. Right.

Does that make sense? Yep. Hold on a second. Are you leaving? Mm-hmm. I love you, girl. I'm like, you're cleaning up over there, so I'm figuring you're, must be going somewhere your son is what he's a boy babe it's all boy well you know what else

he's all boy but he needs some whack wax on the on the you need to go grab a spoon from the whole pot line good girl cook with it and cook with it and other things with it and yeah your food hey listen Kelly Kelly Ann your food will taste so much better as you're eating it when you use that spoon oh my gosh if you'd like to purchase any of the Hope Hotline March today it is available on foundation churchFL.com just click shop we have a spoon available that's thanks for him and anything else you might need but I get it I love you girl thanks for anybody ever wants some really good sourdough bread true Kelly Ann's the girl And you ain't getting it for free. Absolutely not. Ain't nothing for it. Okay. So I just sent this to you.

Okay. Which platform? I sent it, text. Text. Perfect. So what he was talking about is he was saying, and you guys might have saw this, it's Anthony Michael Phillips, correct? And that was, because his three names are first name.

Yeah. All three of his names are first names. Like that, great, unconfusing people. Yeah. I'm no kidding. I know that one's tough. Great job parents. Thanks for helping us. Although they can't help it that the last name is Phillips. It's true. So he was teaching, he was saying, you know, the word Christian, although people called themselves Christian, Christian isn't really the term we should be using. I mean, did you see this? Yes. Yes.

And he talked to. We should be using the words disciple. Disciple. And how do you know if somebody's their disciple? By their fruit? By their fruit. And he was talking about, really, that's not, we don't call ourselves Christians. We call ourselves disciples because we're disciples of Christ. And a disciple, how do you know somebody's a disciple? And he was saying, it's by their fruits, which is what Jesus said.

You'll know them by their fruits. And which is what we get taught around here all the time. I'm telling you, if you listen to this guy, you're going to feel like you're listening to Tom Leipley. True. Just he's chocolate. and my husband's vanilla. And he's, he is a

Pentecostal tongue talking New York City gospel believe in full gospel believing preacher. And he's saying the very things that nobody wants to say. His life has been threatened.

And he on a regular basis, every Sunday, he talks about it people get up and they leave they get up and they leave out of his service because they don't like what he's saying you know how much he cares as much as tom does not a lick he used to be a black hebrew too what do you mean a black hebrew a black jew you don't they're they were really popular in new york i don't know what they believe but it's it's a movement what yeah i don't understand what you're saying yeah it's black there are as a black there is a black jew movement? Juice for Jesus movement? No, it's not Jews for Jesus. It is very...

But you have to be... It's very racist. Yeah. What? Yeah. Wait a minute. Do they love Jews or hate Jews? I'm going to pull it up right now. Please. Okay. Why should you do that? We're going to test this because I'm not, I kept it down all the time. So I think we're going to be able to hear it. But we're going to test it and see what happens. Okay. Okay. But I'm going to go back just a second. Okay, there we go. All right. Let's see what happens. End or once saved always saved, those who endure to the end shall be saved. You think because you prayed a prayer or you came to an altar, you could just say, ask the Lord into your heart and then lives any way that you want. No family.

The devil is a liar. He said, when you recognize in your life, habitual, watch this word, willful. practices of sin. The Lord looks at you and says, son, daughter, you better watch. Cut it off. You better stop it. So you're going to end up back in Matthew 7.

Lord, they came to me and said, Lord, did we not prophesying your name? And did we not serve on a team? And did we not sing on a platform? Did we not preach sermons? And he's going to say, depart from me, you worker of iniquity. You love sin.

I never knew you. y'all worried about the atheists i'm worried about you you got a false assurance while you claiming christ and living in sin hello hello i'm telling you huh someone's got to say it somebody else because nobody is yeah and he's got a huge platform like he huge platform He grew up in like Queens, yeah. Huge platform. So a lot of people see what he has to say. And for him to like make stands like that is huge.

Yes. Huge. Well, and the thing is, is he's crossing lines right now because he was really a lot of the African-American population love him or hate him. Right. But now he's crossing lines in like all races. There are so many. Like it's easy to get a Hispanic, right? I mean, it's true.

If you're, if you're black, you're going to, the odds are most Hispanics are going to also very tight. And they're tight. They tend to either not, and I don't mean if you're, you roll in the same circles. Yes, you do. But it's only certain Hispanics. Like if you, like Tom told me, like Mexicans and the black culture, they do not mix. No, Caribbean and black.

Correct. Yeah. So it's not every Hispanic culture that tend to, they don't. Mexicans and blacks for some reason, they don't really see eye to eye. I think it's a very, very different. The culture is so diametrically, yeah, that they don't mix well at all. But a lot of times the black and Hispanic cultures, they do blend very, very well. But he's crossing major barrier lines with a lot of of other races including white and when you know his background it's wild because he was he shared it i can't i i will have to find the video but he shared that he used to be a black hebrew which

black heroes are very popular in new york and he grew up in new york so it makes sense and it refers to a group a group of movements mostly within the united states that believe black americans are the descendants of the ancient israelites described in the bible and so they they emphasize following Old Testament laws, feasts, and dietary rules. However, a lot of their style is malignant, militant, sorry, militant, okay. And their street teaching styles can be very controversial and preach racial exclusivity. Which is opposite of what he preaches now. Claiming salvation is only for black Israelites.

Isn't that crazy? Yeah. He just, I just saw him about three weeks ago preaching about black pride, being prideful about the color of your skin to his church and talking about just because you're black. You shouldn't be prideful about the color of your skin, which I'll be honest with you. Like a lot of my African American friends in D.C., very prideful about the color of their skin. Yeah. I, hey, listen, and I used to say them, I'd be proud. of your color. I'm proud to be white, but it's not my determining factor. It's not who I am.

It should not be who you are. It shouldn't be the very thing that makes you, like, be boastful, you know? But a lot of people are. They're very proud of their skin color. And I just find that to be so ridiculous. Yeah. Any color. I don't care what color you are. And that's including, like, I would kill to have Vanessa's complexion, like to have that olive complexion. But you can't even be proud. I'm plain, Jane, white as can be, freckle face and pale, right? But even the very thing that you sit there and go,

man, I would love to have that skin color or whatever. Okay, even if you had that, you shouldn't be prideful about it. And a lot of people are. Yeah. They very much are, which I just am like, I just find it crazy, but that's one of the things he was preaching about. That's why I was, like, wondering. But he's also very, very outspoken about being a conservative and a Republican.

Very outspoken about that when he preaches. Yep. Which is another thing that a lot of people have problems with. I mean, I literally, me and Tom listen and I'm like, I'm like feeling like I'm listening to my husband. I know. I know. Which is a great thing. That's why a lot of people from our church like him and share his thoughts.

Yeah. Because it feels like it's in the same. Yeah. It's the vein. Yep. Same vein of things. Yep. Great stuff, though.

Oh, and Hebrew Israelites, the black Hebrews actually storms one of his church events recently, as of two weeks ago. You're kidding me. Yeah. I'm looking it up now. And why did they do that? I don't know. Maybe because he used to be a part of it. them and he's giving them a bad name that's wild that's crazy in it's crazy yeah but all true all good

stuff you want to um we're not going to do anything but you want to run through stuff really really fast and then well i'm going to do sponsors and then i'm going to get to the teaching and then we're going to um because i'm going to try and get through this yeah absolutely okay real quick so if you're on facebook you know what to do just like share comment if you want to head over to rumble that's where the conversation's going. Hey, everybody on Rumble, if you could repost. Just say, watch with us or something cool. Watch with us. And then just push repost. We'll see if that pushes us out. Everybody that's new here today on Rumble, let us know where you're watching from, what state or city. That would be really great. And if you could like the video as well,

that would be great just right next to the repost. If you are watching on Black Rope, you're all by yourself so come over to rumble youtube um you can obviously hang out there but if you want to have a conversation rumble is the place to be um if you have any questions please send them in ask hope at hope hotline.com you can drop them into the live chat but um it is better if you do both drop it in the live chat or in the comments there's a different area over in rumble um or just send an email and you'll get a response back letting us know that we got it um we are going to have natalie here on Friday so definitely be here let me get my little thing there it is uh Friday the 31st so we'll have a bunch of questions coming in for for Natalie a lot of medical and health and all that

kind of stuff so if you have a question this is your last chance to send them in and if you don't have any questions that's okay because we got a lot of stuff to talk about it'll be a good one Instagram of course you guys know we just talked about this we got our spoon available so purchase that spoon if you have a little toddler. Don't just purchase it, actually use it. Yep. Purchase it and use it, especially if you have a toddler, because you know, if you know, you know. Hope is killing it, 2,500 plus followers, and they are loving the game. We have our little name that tune game and it's for Gen X, so play along with us, follow her on there. And then Pastor Tom and the TLP clips are also on there. and we have a lot of people love it because we get a lot of hearts, but then the comments,

they can't, they can't not comment, which is great for us because that just pushes us out more. So we're here for it. We do have a couple people that follow Pastor Tom, and they are just, they've got his back. So we just kind of watch it unfold and get their popcorn, and it's great. It's just the grind. It is. It really is. It took him shorter to get to 400, then it took.

me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. No, it's, we're chugging along for sure. And same with Foundation Church. They've surpassed Pastor Tom. That one's in easy. It's not controversial. No, 500. Everybody loves it. Everybody loves it as well. You keep getting comments about that one, too. And so, yeah, it's, we're doing great over there, too. It's specific for right now, though. That song is I agree. I agree. Very specific for this time. I mean, the very first song that you have penned is Andrias, and it's doing really good. It really is. It did really good when it came out. But, I mean, some of these songs are just specific.

And then the other one is Restonis. That one. Norma kills that one. And so that is a super popular song. Yeah. It just depends. Like, there's no rhyme or reason how. Never. Never.

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You can't keep dumping money into a vehicle that's not worth it. And so when she went to go get a new car, he literally, did he look at that car for her before she bought it? Or did she? Oh, she sent all of the information about it. He reviewed it, everything, told her, like, as far as deal-wise, like whether she was getting a good deal, whether she wasn't getting a good deal,

things to look for, things not to look for. Was it this kind of car, a lemon, your pros and cons? Thank you, Nora. And who does that? Right. Like, yeah, exactly. Like, that's what I did when I went and bought this car. And I have 156,000 miles on it.

And it has been, God has, like, totally hedge of protection around that car. And, like, it has been the best thing. And I am grateful that I was able to call Nick and say, hey, Nick, what kind of car should I get? And then he tells me, these are the ones I don't see, you know? So your mechanic should be able to help you. you with the repairs but also help you with giving you a good sound advice on the next car you purchase and like he'll even look at the car for you before you buy it if it's allowed if it's not a car dealership because car dealership sometimes can be funny about that but if it's a private

owner he can even do all that for you so it's a big purchase people that's all I'm going to say outside of your house your vehicle is the next largest purchase you make so you might want to expert, check it out for you. That's all I'm going to say. It's a good idea. Yes, yes. Okay, I didn't say them a phone number, but that's okay because everybody saw it. All right. So we're going to, I'm going to read where we're at. Basically, what we've been working on is a great instructional manual in 2 Peter 1 through 5, 1, 5 through 10 that will help you make sure that you, like Pastor Phillips was saying, is endure to the end. You say that center's prayer now how do you stick to it till the end right there are there are certain i was going to say

remedies but i meant recipes there are certain recipes that you can follow and these this guideline and this instruction manual is the recipe to be able to endure to the end it isn't like walking around in the dark with blind eyes trying to feel your way through the whole experience and you know no you don't have to have any failures you can have one success after another based on the decisions you make if they are in line with this word um in Vanessa always goes always goes back to the four essentials but which is what Vanessa I'll have you do them because you have them like you roll them right off your tongue watch me mess out don't mess up I'll help Bible study worship prayer fellowship perfect and you teach on

those like that's a lot of the stuff when you're counseling and stuff like that you'd go to that literally if you want to be a well-rounded believer just do the four essentials do the four essentials which is part of this the four essentials is part of these this instruction you add the four essential on with if you add this instruction with the four essentials you will never ever ever not walk with the lord and you will not stumble ever he literally says that ever it's not going to be possible let's go to second peter one five through ten it says in view of all this make every we've already gone through some of this so i'm going to stop when we get to the part that we've already done and then we're going to expound on that and then and then finish up on this

in view of all this make every effort to respond to god's promises you got to know the promises is like what i said you have to know them be able to respond to them if you don't know them you can't so get to know the promises of god real well And don't discount one because it just doesn't feel right to you. Right. Okay? It's not about your feelings. It's about what is the true word of God.

And then you receive it, you accept it, and then you walk in it. Yeah. You take it. It's like a birthday or a Christmas present under a tree. You run to the tree, you take the gift, and you, like, own it. Supplement your faith with a generous provision of moral excellence. So when it says supplement your faith, what is it saying? I didn't do that one.

When it says supplement your faith, that means to grab hold of it. Supplement your faith with a generous provision of moral excellence and moral excellence with knowledge. So you have to do these things. You have to take hold and walk in these things. A generous provision of, what's a generous provision? Is it like where you just have enough to get by? No. which is most people's walk with God.

They don't know the word hardly. So they're starving to death. Hunger and thirst after righteousness. You can't hunger and thirst after, like, the woman at the well, right? The woman at the well, he told, he would, Jesus told her, I'll give you something that you'll never be thirsty again. She said, give it to me. It was him.

Yeah. Right. So if you seek after the Lord, you'll never hunger and thirst. So again, generous provision means more than you need. It's not just barely getting by or just enough. So you are to use a generous provision of moral excellence. So you have to have a stockpile of this, a moral excellence. So you have to walk in a great abundance of moral excellence.

Am I making sense? Yeah. Sometimes I don't. Nope, you got it. Then, from moral excellence, you do it with knowledge. Right. Most people are dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to the Bible. And why are they dumb as a box of rocks, girls?

Because they're dumb as a box of them. Because they don't know it. They spend no time in the word. So when you don't spend any time in the word, you don't know him, and you don't know what he tells you to do. Or the promises. Or the promises. You don't know the do.

and you don't, and the don'ts. Right. So you have no knowledge. So how can you have moral excellence? How can you walk in morality when you don't even know what the word of God calls morality? And you can't walk in knowledge

if you don't know his knowledge, which is his wisdom. And knowledge with self-control, which is goes back to what I was talking about. Humble, being humble, and having self-control. control in your mouth, in your actions, in your deeds, and self-control with patient endurance. That is, people are very frail in that.

True that. Patient endurance. I just reposted something of Jonathan's. I'm going to get, did you see what I posted? I would find that for me. Because it, like, he spoke my love language i'm not kidding you i literally if i could have found that man i would have wrapped my arms around his neck and gave him a big wet sloppy kiss on his cheek oh and he'd been like well hope i know what have i done exactly he probably would have laughed he would have and been scared all at the same time absolutely if it was pastor rodney he would have laughed um patient endurance she's going to get to that uh she's going to pull it up because patient endurance most people can endure and if they do they don't do impatiently they do it with like fear and trembling

they're scared the whole entire time they're walking through having to be to have endurance because they're just so frail and like is god going to do it for me it is is this very thing like they're like a wave to cross to and fro what is it when you're you're doubtful but what is it when you I know he will do it but will he do it for me. Yeah. I can't stand it.

And then godliness with brotherly affection which is where we ended. Godliness with brotherly affection. Do you understand that you're supposed to be godly? Most people just they walk that fine line.

How close can I get to the world tread that line of what world has the offer yet still stay a Christian right not godly not running after holiness right living no like their best life in both worlds understand that's lukewarm brotherly affection with love for everyone at when it says everyone that means like even the people that you can't stand it's very The word says it's very easy to love those who love you. Yep.

Even the sinners do that. Even the sinners do that. Thank you very much. Even the sinners do that. It's very easy to love those who love you. But the true test is to love those who don't love you. Yeah. And want to harm you.

Love your enemies. You're putting ashes. Yeah. Heaping coals of kindness. Yes. On them. What were you going to say, Vanessa? I'm reading it in the amplified, which I have.

Amplified classic? No, just the regular Amplify. Okay, do that and then I'll do the Amplified Classic. Yeah, and it says, in your godliness, brotherly affection, and in your brotherly affection, develop Christian love. That is learn to unselfishly seek the best for others and to do things for their benefit. Oh, that was the Amplified. That's the Amplified? Yeah.

Well, mine doesn't say that at all. In the Amphiplite Classic, all it says, and in exercising godliness develop brotherly affection, and in exercising brotherly affection, develop Christian love. Yeah. It describes what Christian love is. It's unselfish, and it seeks the best for others, and it does things for their benefit.

Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. That's beautiful. Okay, yeah, play this for me. Everything grows if you don't quit. Can I get chat GPT? Psychology research stated that quitting rewires the brain for failure. Can you extrapolate on that?

Basically, the idea is that when you quit something repeatedly, your brain kind of gets used to that pattern. It forms a habit where it sees quitting as a way out. So over time, it can make it a bit harder to push through challenges. So that's the gist of how quitting might rewire your brain for a little more of that failure mindset. Quitting rewires the brain for failure. Finish something. Keep showing up after the excitement fades.

God blesses endurance. Consistency is faith with shoes on. Everything grows. There it is. Wait, did he say consistency is faith with shoes on? Yes. Oh, I'm going to put that in my back pocket. It's going to be your new bio.

It is. It's one of my, like, I love it when people back up. my theology. Golly, I love it when people back up my theology. Because the worst thing you can ever do is become a quitter. I'm not kidding you.

The worst thing you can do across the board. And for your children to learn is that quitting is an option. That is failure at its finest. Because the word says those who endure,

endurance and quitting do not go hand in hand they are diametrically opposite it's like a magnet and a negative and a positive magnet trying to go together it never happens it never will happen it's not possible you will if you have a quitter's mentality you will never endure ever and the chances of you finishing the race are not good that's just the facts that is just the truth that's the reason why i push I push it so hard, and that's one of the reasons why I say I hate quitting so much. I won't allow myself to do it, and I try and push everyone that I know that is around me and my sphere of influence to understand it should never be and will never be an option for them

as well. It's the best thing you can do is help people to understand that victory is just like around the corner if you just keep fighting the good fight. Never quit. Because God is on your side. But I love that. When he posted that, I'm like, oh, man, you are speaking my love language, Jonathan.

God bless it. And I've never heard him speak on not quitting. And I mean, I listen to him, but I don't listen to him very, very much. I just, I have the people that I do, but I love him. He is, I agree with Tom. He's probably one of the best pastors

or best preachers. hands down that i've ever been able to be blessed to listen to he he just is hands down along with his wife um but and listen guys we may be lucky to have two handfuls right now in the in the world that we live in right now two handfuls of excellent preachers and pastors that we have available to us back in the day it was probably the same to a certain extent because there wasn't um the internet and there wasn't the TV to the number of channels. But it just goes to show you that even then there wasn't that many. And pastors were very critical of other pastors and their preachings because they felt

the same way as we do today. A lot of excuses, a lot of passivity, a lot of compromise was being allowed and preached. Even back in the day Kenneth Hagan talked about it. Smith Wigglesworth talked about it. Lester, Summerall talked about it. It was prevalent. But let's keep going really quick. I love that.

If you come across something like that again, Vanessa, because I'm going to use yours versus mine, because yours is way better than mine. And I thought the Amplified Classic was the best. But that was really good. And it says, the more you grow like this, the more productive. Understand the more you do what we just said,

the scriptures that we just said, the more you grow like this, the more productive and useful you will be in your knowledge. of the Lord Jesus Christ. How can you not be if you're growing in knowledge of him? How can you not be? But those who fail to develop in this area, so those of you who choose to not listen to what we're saying

and you choose to say, eh, not today, maybe tomorrow, and then years go by, and nothing has changed in your life. But those who fail to develop in this way are short-sighted. Oh, I would not want to be thought like that, short-sighted or blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed, from their old sins

It says here For whoever lacks these qualities Is blind, short-sighted Closing his spiritual eyes to the truth How are you going to stay safe like that? How are you going to stay safe like that? You're not. Yeah, it could be tough.

You're not. That's why these lukewarm churches that are preaching a very permissive gospel, they're very dangerous for just that reason. So dear brothers and sisters work hard to prove that you really are among those God has called and chosen. What does it say for you?

Do these things and you'll never fall away as what it finishes saying. What does 10 say for you? Therefore, believers, be all the more diligent to make certain about his calling and choosing you. Be sure that your behavior reflects and confirms your relationship with God for by doing these things you want me to finish that yeah actively developing these virtues you will never stumble in your spiritual growth and will live in a life

that leads others away from sin that's good but it's really good mine didn't say that and then 11 says and then i had this one highlighted it says then god will give you and this is what we all want when we go to heaven, then God will give you a grand entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's what I said to him this morning. I said, Lord, I'm going to take the lesson that you gave me because I want to hear well done, good and faithful servant when I enter into the kingdom of heaven. And all these things that God shows us are for a reason.

It's whether we choose to pick it up and utilize it. what does your say for in the way for in this way entry into the eternal kingdom of our lord and savior jesus christ will be abundantly provided to you i love that yeah the last scripture i'm going to give you and then we're going to close out second peter 219 and this is half of it's 219 b through 22 says for you are a slave to whatever controls you remember that oh whatever controls you and it might be you oh if the lord and you know a house divided cannot stand and you'll and the word is very clear that you will you can't serve two masters you'll love the one and hate the other yep and despise the one and love the other right so you can't you can't live

two different lifestyles you can't be like cut the baby in half kind of thing or cut yourself in half and it doesn't work like that. So remember, for you are a slave to whatever controls you. So whatever, if it's your kids, you're a slave to them. If it's your spouse, you're a slave to them. If it's the TV, you're a slave to them.

If it's this, you're a slave to it. If it's the word of God, then that is what you're a slave to. And when people escape from wickedness of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, they get tangled up and enslaved by sin again, they are worse off than they were before. Remember that. So when you fix your life and you say, Lord, I want you to be the Lord and savior of my life, understand that when you do that, you have made a decision that the Lord,

you are a slave to the Lord. And then if you go back after you escaped it and you go back, It says you're worse off than you were before doing that. Show that clip that I gave you. Listen, this is the truth. This is the truth of those who believe in God. Lots of people. That was short. I like that.

Those who believe in the God and believe in God and those who obey God. Narrow is the way. Broad is the road to destruction. Narrow is the way. A few there be that find it. One more time. About anything. Understand how wide that road is to those who believe.

in him. Lots of people believe in him. But look at the ones that obey. Make sure you're one that obeys. It's a big difference. Yeah. Big difference. And I was telling Tracy, after Christmas the Christmas Eve service last year, I think everybody's eyes should have really been open to how many people are not saved. Most of the world is either agnostic or they are another religion that they they believe in okay and god might be a part of that religion but isn't the same god that we serve with jesus christ being in the trinity with the holy spirit it's way different most of the world is not going to heaven and that is the truth broad is the road because most people don't know jesus as their lord and savior and if you did and you walked away you're worse off than you were

before you did it you need to know that it said it would be better if they had never known the to righteousness than to know it and then reject the command they were given to a holy life so we are to live a holy life that's the facts and if you live a holy life it's really hard for you to walk away true they prove the truth of this proverb a dog returns to its vomit and another says a washed pig returns to the mud i strongly strongly encourage you to take the second peter i'm going to look at it one more time second peter two five through ten second peter one five through ten you need to it, print it out, look at it every single day, and make sure you're doing those very things that it lists so that you stay in constant step with the Lord.

Yeah. And you'll live a great life. Yep. Yep. Well, that's it. We'll see you on, what is it? Friday's Wednesday. We'll see you on Friday.

We're going to have a new little addition to our family. Oh. Yeah, maybe she'll bring her. We're having a new edition tomorrow. So we add a new little member to our family. We will hopefully bring the new little member on Friday for everybody to see. I know. I'm not having a child.

And now there is Norma. Another is Tommy. And Tom better not be. I'll kill him. Well, exciting stuff tomorrow. So we'll see you on Friday. Have a great rest of your night. If you are youth, be here for Fortress Youth tonight.

It's great. It's growing. Make friends in your age bracket, dudes. Yeah. And other than that, what time does youth start? Seven, but they can come around 6.30 and get some food. We feed you. Seven, right?

So be here. We feed you. What's tonight, Tau? El Primo Pizza. El Primo pizza. They love it. So be here for a youth group, if you're youth, not if you think you are. Yeah, you can identify as a youth.

You cannot identify. You have to be in actual youth. Yeah, Talia, I'll get you. We'll see you on Friday. Have your questions, medical questions. Anything questions. And maybe she can answer them for you. I have one for her.

Oh, you do? Yes. Hot diggedy. That's going to be a quandary. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. All right, friends. See you Friday.

Bye. Real talk.