The Hope Hotline - How & Why Do We Share The Gospel Of Jesus | Part 3
Episode Date: August 28, 2026How & Why Do We Share The Gospel Of Jesus | Part 3...
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Stop the madness, people.
Let's go straight to Lindsay Colancy.
Let's do it.
Are you ready for this?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to pull.
Listen, I still stand by what I stand by, but I'm just telling you.
I wore my high neck.
Just felt very like lawyer today or juror, whatever anybody needs me to be today.
I am prepared.
I've got my live stream going on the top bottom corner just in case they pop up.
But we're ready.
Mom's in the chat.
She's a juror.
She's got her juror number.
She's ready to go.
Oh my gosh.
Your mother.
This is like the what is that Chauvin case?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where like you just sit there and go everybody, including me and Tom, we normally are on the side of, but we were even like, man, this ain't good.
Like all of it didn't look good.
Pumping off.
But then it's turn of events.
Turn of events.
And I'm not saying.
That was Tara.
I'm not saying that
I mean like I've said from the beginning
it just doesn't flip it
Some stuff just doesn't add up
That doesn't mean that
Yeah
It doesn't mean like
It really changes anything
But it still like doesn't add up
Yeah yeah
Yes I know
Some things just are like
The truth is just not there
There's too many like
tributaries to this
Yeah I agree
You sent me something
Where did you send it?
From TikTok
Chuck. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I want an Instagram. I'm like, where is it?
You went straight to your account. I got it. Oh, you did. Okay. Oh, okay. Have you seen that?
It's not, it's like some of them I can just download with one button. This is not one of them.
You have the screen record? Probably have to screen record. Oh, and it's three minutes. Okay.
It's three minutes, what I sent you? I'm going to attempt to screen record it real quick and just we'll see if it plays the music once it goes. Is there music to that?
Sound, sound, sound. Sometimes, I don't know.
when I screen the court, I think it will. But let's try it real quick, because I'll tell you about
some of the stuff that went on today. Okay. Go ahead while that's doing that. Okay. Hey, listen,
some of you don't care. Some of you are on here for like finding out about how to share the gospel
or whatever. We're going to because apparently Bopschie is going to go. If that girl lands in jail.
If she's in jail, she's going to go to Tewsbury. She is, like, knocking on the door.
Somebody is going to be witnessing to this lady. Yeah. Has to.
Yeah.
Who's going to do it?
And then she's, if she didn't do it, if she didn't do it, even if she ends up in jail and she didn't do it, she's going to reap the fruit of it.
Because Bob, she's going to be there in jail and she's going to get her out of that wheelchair.
And then something's going to come out.
And then she's going to be acquitted.
And then we're all going to be like, see, right?
We knew it.
We knew it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, my gosh.
Somehow, some way.
Somehow, some way.
Okay.
So this is, this was like an easy way to look at it.
Thank you, Fox News. Okay, so the two options for not guilty are not guilty, period. Charges not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The outcome is no punishment. The other one is not guilty due to lack of criminal responsibility because the meaning is mental disease, precluded criminal responsibility, and then the outcome would be potential civil confinement, which would probably be mental hospital. Then the guilties. So guilty of first degree murder, which people don't think this will happen.
premeditated or extremely cruel. So that's life without parole, guilty of second degree,
intentional killing without those factors, life of possibility of parole, and guilty of manslaughter.
And that is some that people think that she could get is guilty of manslaughter, killing without
intent to cause harm. And that's up to 20 years in prison. So what happened today, let me put my little
slide. So they brought the juror and brought everybody in. And then I don't
I think it was like around 11, maybe 10.
There was a recess that happened because the jury sent a question and request to the judge during deliberation.
Deliberation.
Okay.
And Judge Williams brought the prosecution and Lindsay Clancy's defense attorney to the sidebar to discuss it privately and then they went right into a recess.
Then we found out later the jury was asking for physical to people physically examine Lindsay Clancy's prescription bill.
pill bottle and the knife that she used during her unaliving attempt. So those items had not been
admitted into the evidence, but apparently had not been sent into the jurors room with the other
stuff. So that is what is going on right now. And I have my live going on. So we'll see,
we'll see if anything pops up if there's any movement. And we've got Bopski on the case.
Oh my gosh
That in and of itself
That that was
That's what we got
And my screen recording stopped
While I was doing that
So silly
These phones
Is that the stuff you were just
You used?
Yeah
You didn't bring that
You didn't put that up
No I did
I did it
The whole time I was talking
Oh I was texting
So I didn't even notice
That's different
Okay
Because I was trying to
That's interesting.
Yes.
I think like I told you guys, I think the attorney's going for acquittal.
I don't.
I think he's trying to put so much doubt on what really transpired to make it pretty much impossible.
Right.
Because I don't know why law enforcement did not follow the proper protocol and procedures.
I know. That's huge.
I know.
Like, how do you not, if you see that medication or anything,
you don't even know it's medication,
but if something is ground up,
how do you, first of all, not test it?
Second of all, how do you not look for the very thing that crushed it
so that you can take DNA off of it?
Like, how do you not do these things?
Or they didn't even test the lemonade.
The lemonade that supposedly had all the stuff in it,
they didn't even test that.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
They don't even know what, if it was medication.
The stuff on the side they didn't test.
The lemonade they didn't test.
They didn't look for the crusher.
And why would she crush it?
She's trying to kill herself.
Makes no sense whatsoever.
They took Patrick's word for it.
Right.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
Because they didn't even listen to the 911 call.
Right.
Even though she couldn't talk.
Right.
They didn't even listen to the 911 call.
And Patrick said that she clearly told him that the kids were in the basement.
But the 911 call,
she's like gurgling.
There's too much reasonable doubt, period.
Oh, 100%.
There just is.
But it wouldn't be even,
there wouldn't even be any reasonable doubt
if the cops would have done their job.
It would have eliminated everything.
There would be no reasonable doubt.
There would be proof in the pudding
that she 100% did it.
Or heep 100% did it.
I know.
Or maybe he didn't do it,
but have suspicion on him.
Right. Right. And the thing is, is when you don't do your job, people go free, which three lives, like, deserve to have justice. Right. Like, for me, I'm like, what are you thinking? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, I am all about justice. If she did it, I don't care if she was sane in the head or not sane in the head. She can get what she needs in jail. They can give her help. I don't care, all that stuff. But she needs to go to jail if she did it. But, like, how the heck?
Are we supposed to figure this out?
And you can't send somebody to jail because somebody needs to pay.
You got to put the right person in jail that deserves to go.
Like that's my whole thing.
And I'm not saying, and listen, again, like, it is, she's highly suss.
I mean.
Everyone involved is.
Everybody is, though.
Especially Patrick.
Well, again, I don't think he should go free.
If she goes to jail, he should go to flipping jail.
That's how I feel because, again, like this.
The guy that you're going to listen to, he even says it's culpable.
Yeah.
I know.
Like, I don't think, I think that you should, what?
Kim says, word on the street is that Patrick has ends with the police.
Family member.
Well, we need to figure that out.
Sign us up.
You know what, sign us up.
You know that there's a group of like moms who take cold cases?
Yes. Oh yeah, I've heard about them. I love it. Send it to them. We need to send this to them. I bet they're on it. I bet they're doing it. No, and I hope I'm, I feel very strongly about not just putting somebody in jail, which obviously, but I'm just saying, right, because I, like, that is, can you, like, there's something, because it's justice about you going to jail and you didn't do it. And then what, like, there's nothing you can do. Like, all the stories in the Bible. Like, I hate those stories.
Like I hate when people get put in a spot, but they never should have been in.
Right.
Like the lions then?
Yes.
What the heck?
I know.
Well, here's the thing.
It's like Jerry Sandusky.
I don't, you mean, the Penn State coach that is in jail right now.
Yep.
Listen, Tom had a guy on the podcast that did a thorough investigation on that whole entire
case.
I know.
I remember.
And it is highly suss whether he actually did everything that they said he did because
there are things that prove.
that that did not happen.
Right.
Yeah.
Like, if you listen to the everything,
full evidence of that whole entire case,
you sit there and go,
that is absolute reasonable doubt.
People were lying on the stand,
and it's proven they were lying on the stand.
And that, that in itself.
So, like, what the what?
Right.
Right.
And everybody was like, send that guy away,
send him away for the rest of his life.
But what if we, you send him away based on lies
from people sitting in the stand on the stand that in people who didn't do their job right
because they didn't look at the evidence and now somebody's rotting in jail like and listen
I just saw I just saw on um social media um a young man at the age of like I don't know 18
18 or 19 this girl he's black she's white he was accused of of um what do you
I don't want to say the word because I essay.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
And, well, more than that, like.
Yeah, the R word.
And he's been in jail for, I think it was six or seven years.
She finally admitted she lied about the whole entire thing.
And he is now out.
It just happened.
He just got out.
No.
But he has been rotting in jail.
That girl should be, you should rot in jail, girl.
No, 100%.
And where's the evidence that he actually did it?
No.
There were none. There wasn't any.
And yet, he's been in jail.
I mean, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like not right.
Is there some, can you do something about that?
Like, if she lied.
Well, they are going to, now, I mean, at least she came forward.
I know.
Civilly, yeah, but.
Okay.
I would sue her.
Legally, I think you, I think legally.
Yeah.
Because she lied.
Right. Defamation. It's not defamation of character. It's like you, that's defaming somebody. It's way more than that. Somebody literally went to jail because you lied and there should be criminal charges and I think there are criminal charges against somebody for lying under oath about causing somebody to go and serve time with about, you know, lying about somebody committed a crime and they didn't commit a crime. I know that you can't like,
cry wolf you can't just call 911 and make up a story because you can get arrested for that so
how is this not any different right through i would want her to go to jail and on top of that i will
sue you uh yeah i want some money uh yeah like like what the heck because that's what's right
yes you literally took seven years from somebody's life let alone lord knows what happened to that poor
person while they were in jail.
I know.
The fear and the anxiety that they walk through.
I know.
And just whatever else happens.
And the life, yes.
And the life change that occurred because they now have to harden, get hardened up.
Right.
The trauma, all of it.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Wild.
Please.
Oh, my gosh.
It won't, it keeps saying my storage is full.
But I've cleared my storage.
It won't.
I can't get it.
All right.
Send it to me.
Okay.
All right.
I'll try.
Thank you.
Oh, can't I do it off of my phone?
But you just have to, no, let me have, let me just, let me send it to.
Because I just want, I don't want like your notifications to pop up too.
So you have to turn off your whole thing.
Let me try.
I mean, if you can't, then I will give you my phone if she can't.
Okay.
Let's see if Vanessa can do it.
Because there's two different ones and it's the same story.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, it's like three minutes.
I know.
It makes it like 10 seconds.
And I just cleared all my storage.
But yeah, we're going to get that because apparently somebody doesn't want us to see it.
This feels very spiritual right now.
It is.
It is.
Oh, my gosh.
But this is a guy saying this and he has some background or something like that.
I think he's a defense attorney.
I love hearing both sides.
I do too.
I love hearing both sides.
I've been listening to the ones that are like, you are crazy if you think that she didn't do it.
And I'm like, and I want to hear what they have to say.
say. And a lot of the times it's just like, well, she admitted it. And I'm like, okay, but also,
that's coming from Patrick. And he, they told her that she admitted it to Patrick. And the, yeah,
but I've heard that she actually did admit. She ended up personally. Right. Afterwards. But then
they said, do you remember all the things? And supposedly she didn't have a lot of memory of things. And so she
just said that she did it. And so I know. And I know a lot of people admit things when they're innocent and
they're screwed up. I do understand that.
But I'm sorry.
Like if you say you, like it really hurts you to say you actually didn't.
I know.
I know.
Because I'm going to take you at your face value, whether or not you're kooky or not.
I don't know.
Like if you admit to the crime, I'm going to believe you.
I mean, there are people who have admitted to crimes and they didn't do it.
I do get that.
But it's very, more people admit that actually do than ones that admit that didn't.
And my thought is, is that she is not sane in her head.
She's not.
I agree.
So did she want to do it?
And did she do it?
Well, I don't know.
But even like the doctor said she heard a man's voice say.
So he is he the one that's directing her?
I don't know.
But at the end of the day, if you did it even at his direction and you were under a substance
or something, that's, like, I don't know what to tell you.
Maybe you pick a better husband.
I don't know, because bad decisions lead to bad things.
I don't know.
I know.
But there are three people who are no longer alive.
Right.
So something's got to give.
I know when it was so bad.
Yes.
So I'm like, you know, whether or not you were under the influence.
I know.
Maybe you don't pick the guy that you married.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
Like, there's causing a.
There's consequences for actions.
I don't know.
Should be like, this is why you don't marry the wrong person.
Yeah, that's what I think.
Everyone has to watch this before they get married.
I'm adding it to my marriage.
Please.
You should.
Agreed.
Watch this case.
Make sure the God tells you.
Is he a narcissist?
Does he hate you?
Does he hate you?
All right.
Did it work?
It's still happening.
All right.
Well, I can't.
It's coming along, though.
I can't wait much longer.
We're now at 45 minutes.
More.
It's almost at the end.
I mean, literally, we will have waited like five to 10 minutes on this for this three-minute thing.
And people are going to be like, that's what we waited for?
No, they love it.
Are you sure about this?
Everybody has to know because you know what happens is everybody forms an opinion.
She's justifying.
Everybody forms an opinion.
And they need to have all of the facts.
Because this is court.
He's not in court.
We are.
I texted it to you.
We're, who me?
Yes.
Yeah, we're, we are the juror right now.
And just because we're digital doesn't mean that our opinion doesn't matter.
Did you know that there was 18 jurors for this?
Did you know that?
No, how many normally is there?
You could only have 12, but they have 18 go through the whole entire trial.
And then yesterday he had to send six out.
like they can't be a part of it.
That's just how they do these big trials because people get sick,
people have emergencies,
and so they have to have backup.
But every single one of the 18 had to be in the trial for the entire trial.
I did have,
I had a friend who did that.
My neighbor did that with the Carly Brucha case.
Okay.
And he was the backup.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said that was a wild.
You know who El Chapo is?
Yes, I do.
Were you on his?
No, my mom was a juror.
That'd be scary.
So what happened was they would have to conceal her identity.
How is that?
She loved every single second of it.
Oh my gosh, your mom.
Loved it.
Oh, my gosh.
She's gangster.
It wasn't long enough.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Like, weren't you afraid of your life?
She was like, no.
No.
Oh, my gosh.
Your mother's gangster.
They would have to go into like a secret like entrance, like crazy.
What?
Yeah.
She was like a professional juror when she lived in New York.
Oh my gosh.
Please, I hate.
Was that as long as like five weeks?
I don't remember how long.
It was pretty long actually.
I don't know how long though.
It was sent.
So yeah, so that was 18 real quick because it's uploading.
But those 18, even though they've been dismissed,
they're not totally dismissed because if something now happens during deliberation,
if one of them has to, like, has an emergency or get sick.
One of the six that was dismissed has to come in.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm sorry, if I'm a juror, there is no emergency.
That's going to keep me from showing up.
You'll show up.
I will show up with a barf bag.
Oh, my gosh.
You're not taking me out.
Oh, my gosh.
There is no, there is absolutely.
Absolutely no want of mind to be on a jury or even go to court.
But again, like we've discussed a hundred times, nobody's picking me anyway.
So like, I have no worries about that either.
Nobody's, nobody's calling me out ever.
All right.
Where are we at?
It's here.
All right.
In Jesus name, it's going to have sound.
Lindsay Clancy case.
The prosecution in this case is,
It's basically stating that Lindsay Clancy killed her three children, tried to kill herself
by cutting her own throat, hanging herself, and then jumping out of a window, resulting in her being paralyzed.
There is numerous pieces of evidence that are creating reasonable doubt, right?
So at the exact time these murders would have been occurring, her body core temp was 82 because she was laying in the snow.
when they found her. And this is all reported via her smartwatch or whatever.
Her ring, I forget which one she had on, but her heart rate was 57.
The father's DNA was found on the exercise bands that were used to murder the children,
but hers wasn't.
The contents of her stomach were ground pills.
Lizzie Clancy was a registered nurse.
She would have known how to kill herself.
if she wanted to kill herself.
And none of those options
are normal options
for someone to use against themselves.
I don't know anyone who would grind up the pills.
I don't know anyone who would do a header
out of a window.
Cutting my own throat,
that's probably not an option for me.
Strangling myself with a bell.
But not hanging.
Women very,
are least likely to do physical harm to themselves.
Sure.
And if they do,
they typically do it in a way
that it's vanity reason, right?
Like, women will cut their wrists.
They will, if they're going to shoot themselves,
they shoot themselves in the chest.
They don't want to hurt this.
That's kind of the typical presentation of that.
But there's so much evidence that this guy is at least culpable,
but probably guilty, in my opinion.
The cell phone signatures don't match up from the location data
from where he said he was,
and he's sending emails from her computer
when she's already laying in the snow
and she's sending emails
in the middle of the murderers
because the timeline is pretty tight
with the way he is portrayed
because of when he left and came back.
So there's a finite timeline of when this happened.
There's another notable case in Massachusetts
where
it was a police officer
actually got murdered
in hit by a car
and they did a core temp on him
I believe, and he'd been out there like six hours, and his core temp was 82.
So kind of interesting.
There's math out there that says how, at what temperature, how low your core temp goes over a certain period of time.
Like, it can be calculated, and it would take hours, not minutes.
So I think you did it.
Really?
Yeah.
All right.
So you just got to give your true opinion.
Lindsay Clancy, guilty?
No.
Or not guilty?
Not guilty.
Wow.
Isn't that interesting?
That's a guy.
Oh, yeah.
And that's what I'm saying.
Like, I've listened to the guys.
I've listened to like everybody.
And so one of the things I did say about the core temperature, if you have that kind of spinal cord or spinal neck injury.
Yeah.
That your body can drop much faster, but not that fast.
Not minutes.
Yeah.
Definitely not minutes.
And fast, meaning like our body's at 98.
go down to 92 pretty quickly. But 82 is like almost unheard of. Yeah. See, those are the things that
those are the things that don't add up to me. Yeah. But, but again, I go back to she admitted it. She's not
ever said. She's not really even saying that she didn't do it. I think she thinks she did do it.
But that's the problem here. Yeah. But did she do it? Well, the thing is,
That's my question.
I just want to know.
Did she kill them?
Here's my thing.
Yeah.
Then say you didn't do it.
Even, I know.
I get it.
Me too.
I know.
Because I think, I mean, I really lean that she did.
I know.
I really leaned strongly.
But these other things, something is not making sense.
Right.
This is not a clear cut case by any.
It is not a clear cut case.
Who's to say that it wasn't both of them playing a part
in this evil thing.
And maybe you were under the influence to a certain extent,
but you still had those thoughts.
She still was a person that was capable of this.
Right.
So I'm like, I don't know.
For me, I'm like, again, I go back to, I think she did it,
and he should be held responsible too.
That's how I feel about it.
Because there's too many, there's too many sus things about him.
But even eliminating those things.
There has to be some responsibility on his part for leaving those children.
Yeah.
And her care on a regular, knowing full well what she was capable of doing.
Like, you have to be responsible for that.
I don't care.
And even if he says, well, I only went to the store.
Right.
Okay, well, that's on you, buddy.
Because maybe you shouldn't have gone to the store if you know that she's not sane.
Yeah.
Take them with you.
On a regular basis, he was leaving town.
Send her.
But again, the not guilty charge is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
So the fact that there is any reasonable doubt, I don't know how they're going to charge her as guilty.
I think it's going to be very, very difficult.
I would be remiss if I was sitting in that jury to be able to honestly say, even if I do think that she did it, if I was sitting there and I still thought she did it, if I, it's like your hand is raised that you will,
that you will do the right thing
and you'll act in honesty and integrity.
Okay, well, it doesn't matter that I still think she did it.
The truth is, is you're asked beyond a reasonable doubt.
And how can you on that jury not come to the conclusion that that attorney has created strong, reasonable doubt?
A lot of times these attorneys will try and throw things in there to make you,
think something but your whole entire time you're like that don't add up right sorry right you're not
creating reasonable doubt for me but in this instance like it's i mean just from the stuff that
i've watched from this attorney right he has blown holes left and right and right right
the cops did that's not even talking about right right the psychologists yeah yeah yeah right
right right exactly so how in the world can you honestly i know say that you don't have
reasonable doubt. I don't know how you would not be able to say with a clear conscience that you're
even though you probably believe that she did do it. Right. Yeah. That's not what you're asked to do
though. Right. That's the problem. And he made that very clear. The judge did. Like he made it very
clear what their job was yesterday after closing argument. Yeah, I don't see how they're going,
I think they're going to be deadlocked. I really don't see how they're going to come out of this thing
anytime soon. It could be weeks.
Yeah, I know. That's what I'm thinking. I'm like...
And then they're deadlocked and they're still...
What happens to her? Is she in an institution right now?
She is.
Does she stay in the institution if they can't come to a verdict?
I believe so. I think, yeah. I think they have... She has to stay.
So he needs an acquittal. Not a...
Oh, if she's found not guilty, is that what you're asking?
No, no, no. There's acquittals. There's not guilty. And then there is deadlock.
Okay, I haven't heard anything about deadlock.
So if they come to a deadlock situation where they can't come to a meeting of the minds,
then they have to do this case, this whole, this trial all over again.
That's like a mistrial?
Like a mistrial, thank you.
Oh, okay.
Because they have to determine whether or not this goes to full trial.
Right, right.
So they're going to have to do this over again if they can't come to a decision.
Yeah.
It is very interesting.
All I know is that that lawyer is going to be so sought after.
I know.
And he's old.
I know.
So time's running out.
I know.
And he loved it.
He loved it because he would do little interviews afterwards every time he'd come out and like everybody would interview him.
And he loved it.
He's a beast, man.
I know.
He's so good.
Where did they find this guy?
Yeah.
I was wondering the same thing.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
This guy is.
And it's crazy because I don't know a celebrity like.
No, no.
But I don't think anybody expected this to be.
even he said this.
Like he is shocked that like it turned into what it did,
but he's really happy because he thinks that the way that this was handled,
like in the hospital and the way that she was treated
and our mental conditions and all the things.
Like he's like,
I didn't know about postpartum until this happened.
And so he's just like disgusted by, you know,
the state and blah, blah.
But nobody knew this is going to be what it is.
Yeah.
It's just one of those cases that got picked up for whatever reason,
whether it's smoking mirrors or.
Well, here's the thing.
I mean, it overtook.
Wait.
What's happening?
behind the scenes that we don't know.
Yeah, well, it's the trial.
Well, I think it's kind of on purpose to the Trump thing.
Right.
I mean, the Charlie Kirk thing.
I mean, I don't think it was by accident.
It's 100% not by accident.
It's always a distraction.
Nobody wants the Charlie Kirk case and the trial for that.
If they can distract us, which is so, like, dishonoring to Charlie Kirk.
Right.
It really is.
Right.
Because if you're distracted.
then you really don't have you don't hear the truth about how this kid is being railroaded
because that whole thing right there is another one of those that is like yeah doesn't add up people
it does not be the eternity the attorney wait send on that case everybody calls them red
red like can we send red there we're sending red send red to trial uh to charlie not not to
not not to know yeah prosecuting side yes he can switch switch sides
I don't think he has what it takes.
I don't think he would want to
help the state.
No, he's done now. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. He's like, I ain't helping these people.
Yeah, true.
All right. I feel better now.
Good. That was a good video.
That was a good video.
Yeah. It kind of just simplified everything.
What everybody's thinking that it's on the side of like,
we're not saying she, I mean, he said, I don't think she's guilty.
But it just made all the points that are so like, okay, but what do we do with this
information because it's out there, you know.
Oh, yeah.
That was good.
It's very good.
That was, like, when I listened, I'm glad you to do.
Like, I'm glad you fought the good fight.
I'm all that.
But seriously, I was like, when I was listening to it, I was like, although those things
that he was pointing, hit those points, I'm like, those are the things that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
I hear you.
Except for the part, I didn't know about women.
And like, like, there are certain things, like, when the FBI is looking for
people, they have stereotypes.
Because by nature, people do certain things a certain way.
Culturally, male, female, but I didn't know that about women.
That's wild how women usually, which makes sense.
Because if I was going to shoot myself, I didn't shoot my face.
I would be shooting myself in the face.
I would.
I would probably do the same thing.
Yeah.
Never considered.
But yeah, I guess you're right.
I'm going to shoot my face.
Heck no.
I just wouldn't want to live.
So, yeah.
Oh, I would definitely, like, if I was going to take myself out, I would OD.
I would definitely not hang myself.
I wouldn't.
I would just go where I just go to sleep.
Right.
And as a nurse, like, she knows.
Yeah.
Like the best, easiest way to go.
Yeah.
I ain't flit my wrist.
I ain't doing none of that stuff.
But if she's in psychosis.
Yeah.
And she's just like, ah, like.
Man.
And it has all this medication.
And I know, there's just too many things.
Yeah, yeah.
too many things.
But it is true what he said about women.
Yeah.
Because when I was hearing that, I was like, well, that's interesting because you're right.
I wouldn't do that.
Right.
I wouldn't do that.
Right.
I wouldn't do that either.
Right.
And he's like, he did it.
Yeah.
That was shocking to me.
I know.
I wasn't expecting that.
Oh.
Hello.
All right.
Okay.
Let's get some people saved.
Yeah.
Let's get some people saved.
We'll get, we'll get Lindsay saved next.
Oh my gosh.
Your mother will make sure that happens.
Watch out, Lindsay.
Watch out, Lindsay.
She's coming.
for you. Oh my gosh. Patrick needs to be saved too. Eventually we'll get to him.
Lindsay first. I don't know. He's got a new wife. That's true. Then kids. He can take care of
himself right now. She can take care of him. Okay. Lindsay needs help.
Lindsay does. Okay. So what we've been talking about for two podcasts and we're finishing it today
because I ain't doing it anymore. Okay, okay. We got time. Do we? Do we really have time?
is the need to share the gospel.
And a lot of people will go,
well, what is the gospel?
And the gospel is the life.
Well, no, it isn't even the life.
The gospel is the true, the too good to be news,
too good to be true news about Jesus.
Jesus came from heaven to earth.
He healed.
He healed people through the power.
That's how people were drawn to him.
Then he was crucified.
He was buried.
And then he rose from the dead.
There is no other, there is not one other.
Like Buddha didn't do that.
Muhammad didn't do that.
There is absolutely no other being that has walked this earth that fulfilled those things for any individual that actually worships them.
Right.
Nobody.
That's the gospel.
The gospel is he came to this earth.
He was buried or he died.
He was buried.
And then he rose again for our redemption.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
It's super simple to share the gospel.
It's super simple.
Norma and tell you walking back.
It's super simple.
The gospel is very, very, I mean, it is not hard to share it.
Just from comparison alone of saying,
what other I mean did Gandhi do that for anybody?
Nobody's risen from the dead.
Nope.
Nobody actually healed the sick when they were, you know.
I don't know of any, any, what do they call those?
Prophets, what are, like, people that are worship.
What is it?
Like I know Muhammad was a prophet, right?
Yeah, they're called prophets, but they're also called gurus.
They're called.
What are those things?
Like, like, Gandhi.
No.
I've never worshipped anything but Jesus.
It's hard for me to pull from because I'm like, I don't know.
What are these other...
Gandhi was an Indian political and spiritual leader.
Yeah, but what are they called when people worship them?
They're cults, yes, but cult leaders, but...
Idols?
But even people in the cult don't call them a cult,
because they actually believe that's their religion and that that person is their god yeah well actually
that is true yeah that's true they do consider them their god their god so i think you just saw my problem
but with like little g not big g yeah exactly yeah exactly so no other no other gods because back in biblical times
there were other gods yeah yeah so it's yeah it's god and then they they called it like uh devoted
to Ram. I'm using Gandhi as an example, but it's a ram when referring to God. So yeah. So yeah,
if you look at it like that, no other gods do what Jesus did. Right. And so that's when I have literally,
when I've talked to New Age, a lot of New Age people, because what they believe is Jesus is,
Jesus is like the Redeemer. They do believe that. They believe that he came to this earth. He's more
than a prophet that he is who he says he is. All the while they say that, they also include
other gods like, not Muhammad, but what's that one, the Indian, the Hindu one? There's a Hindu god.
I can't remember what it is because you'll see it in their house. I've literally gone into
New Age homes where Buddha. Yes, Buddha. Thank you. I've literally walked, when I cleaned homes,
I cleaned homes for like a whole bunch of different nationalities around here.
But even didn't even need to be a different different nationalities.
White Anglo-Saxon women, you walk in and they have a little room.
Women.
Huh?
I feel like there's a lot of white women.
That are new age?
New age.
Oh, 100%.
100%.
Yeah.
I had this Indian family that I cleaned for and they had a room set up where they had
Buddha and everything. They had their little shrine and the altar and she would go in there.
And I'd sick Jesus on that room every single time I walked in there. I was praying like there's
no tomorrow. Not for me. I wasn't worried about me. I was trying to get that woman saved.
So I was praying. I was like, rebuking all that crap. Like penetrating and bringing in the
Holy Spirit. So every time she walked in there, she was not comfortable. She was not comfortable
worshiping her God.
But I've walked into this white woman's house and she had this particular room and it was
front of a window and she had all of these gods.
She did not, she did not discriminate.
She had anything and everything along with the crystals.
Nobody, it is so easy to explain who Jesus Christ is.
And 1 Corinthians 15 3 through 4 clearly explains who Jesus is.
And you should use it.
And you should use it to explain.
But for me, it's like the Roman road.
Read Romans.
And Paul clearly talks about how to what Jesus did and how to be saved.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Whenever I'm talking to teens, I always tell them,
start with John.
Like get familiar with Jesus.
Hang out in the Gospels.
And then read Romans.
Because I feel like Romans,
the book of Romans is the gospel explained.
Well, exactly.
Romans 322.
323.
For everyone has sinned,
we all fall short of God's glorious standard.
Then Romans 623,
for the wages of sin is death.
But the free gift of God is eternal life
through Christ Jesus,
our Lord.
Boom.
That's it.
That's all you got to do.
I read where Paul wrote this,
letter to that church because he wasn't sure if he would ever go there. And so he really wanted
them to understand the gospel. And that's why it's the most clear. Oh, really? Depiction of the
gospel. Yeah. That's interesting. I never heard that before. Where did you read that? I don't know. I was
looking into it because I love Romans. Like it's one of my favorite books. It's probably my favorite book.
And so I was kind of looking into it
And it made sense because it's so like
Clear.
It breaks it down.
It literally breaks down that we all need redemption.
At the end of the day,
not one of us outside of Jesus
Can be redeemed.
I mean, that's it right there.
And how in the world?
Like for me, like,
I just sit there and okay,
I wasn't saved for, I don't know,
four or five years.
And there was absolutely,
nothing at any of those times that ever fulfilled the void or the gap that Jesus only does, right?
Right.
So for me, like, you're going to, you're going to, like, Buddha and Gandhi and all these other,
Muhammad, you think that that fills the gap?
These people are still empty.
That's the reason why they literally will do certain things that they do.
Well, maybe not.
I don't know.
I was going to go somewhere, but I was going to say they martyr or they'll die.
Yeah.
Like we're coming up on September 11th, right?
And these people, but they thought they would get something in return for that.
We are willing to die just because of who Jesus was.
They're dying so that they can have virgins.
Right.
I want to see their face when they enter into eternity.
How disappointing.
Yeah.
They're meeting demons and not virgins.
and not virgins.
Yes.
Which is kind of scary.
Very scary.
I don't know.
I mean, we all have a job.
We all are, I mean, Jesus said for us to go and to win the lost and make disciples.
It is very, very clear that it is our job to share the gospel.
I mean, it says it in Mark.
Didn't he say that as he was a sudden?
into heaven go is like usually someone's last words well is um mark 16 what is mark 16 the last
I think mark is only like I don't think mark has many chapters that could be it because it's in
mark 16 that it says go and go into all the world and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ I think
is exactly what it says go into all the world and preach yeah yeah I have Matthew 28 it says
therefore go and make disciples to all the nations which Matthew is
Isn't Matthew 28 and then it 28th?
Like one of the last chapters?
Yeah.
And when the Lord Jesus had finished talking with them, he was taken up into heaven.
I just finished Mark.
Is it Mark 16?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I just finished it.
I'm like, it didn't have that many chapters.
Yeah.
He was sitting up into heaven and sat down in the place of honor at God's right hand.
So his final words is telling us to do this.
And someone's final words is always like the most important.
Yeah.
His final thoughts.
Yeah.
And that's Matthew 28.
And he charges us.
And then Matthew 28 is the last one.
And those are the last 19 and 20 are the last two scriptures.
And it literally starts in 19 saying, therefore, go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
And teaching them to obey everything I've commanded you.
And I'm sure.
And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age.
And then in Mark 16, it says, these miraculous signs will accompany those who believe.
They will cast out demons in my name.
They will speak in new tongues.
They will be able to handle snakes with safety.
and if they drink anything poisonous, it will not hurt them.
They will be able to place their hands on the sick and they will be healed.
And then after he said that, the very next thing he was taken up into heaven.
Yeah, but you know what's so funny to me is, okay, Jesus said for them to go, right?
He told his disciples.
Yeah.
But that in general meant everybody is supposed to because even he even made statements
about that he wanted people to go and to preach the gospel and to make disciples.
And if you're a disciple, which if you're a disciple, which is a believer, then that's your job.
But my whole thing is so many people expect the pastor, the evangelist, someone else to do this.
That's not what God said, though.
It's like you said, I think it's pretty important.
One of the last things that he said was a directive about what,
winning the lost.
It literally charges us to lay hands on the sick and they will recover.
Like to do, like go, do action.
Yeah.
So my whole thing is quit attending church.
Be the church.
Come on.
Disciple it.
Disciple win the lost and disciple believers.
Yes.
Yeah.
Not expect the church to do it, which the church should be participating with you.
Right.
But it's our job.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's really cool because like in the Bible.
Bible, it actually gives like a whole bunch of options for like leadership and ministry rules.
Right. And so it goes from like obviously the pastor,
shepherd all the way down to helps and service ministry, supporting the work of the church
and practical ways in First Corinthians. So like you can even go and like study out the different
roles that are in the church and what there's an expectation and then figure out like what like,
what feels right for me? Like what can I do? And then sometimes getting into a role, you're like,
okay, I thought I'd like this, but I don't. So I'm going to try something else because there's a
bunch of them. There's a bunch of different ways to figure out what gospel. Yeah. And in these service
roles, as you're supporting the work of the church, all of a sudden, you'll have an opportunity
to share the good news. And here's the thing. If you're an introvert, don't try and be a greeter.
I mean, hello. Unless you want to you're trying to challenge yourself. I mean, most people,
whatever God has created you as your strength, that is going to more than likely be. You're
whatever he has you to step into.
If you love, if you love to be hospitable to people,
if you love serving and blessing people in that way,
the odds are you should work in hospitality.
Right.
True.
Which is one of them.
And maybe if you're introverted, try media, right,
behind the camera or behind the sound booth.
Yeah, do something where it's not requiring you to talk to people, but that you still can use a skill and a talent that God's giving you.
Because, like, there's a lot of people who are super quiet and they are afraid of being in front of people that would be great photographer.
But listen, sometimes some of the most introverted people are also singers.
Yeah.
And you come out of your shell and you bring.
you blossom when you're using your talent and your skills that God's given you. So like it doesn't
always play out like that, but a lot of times it does. Yeah. So you got to just be honest.
But the truth is, is when you, in my opinion, and I think it's true and you guys will tell me if you don't,
listen, if you believe in something, then you, like for me, when I sell things, when I was,
in sales. I only picked products that I believed in because if I believe in it, then I can sell it.
Right. Because I trust it. I am like passionate about it. I can tell you all the great things about it.
And it's an easy sale. Like if you believe in something, you'll sell it. So do you believe in your walk with God?
Do you believe that Jesus is the end all be all? Because if you believe you believe,
do, you'll sell them to people.
Right. If you don't, you'll keep it quiet.
Right. Because it's actually a disservice. If you have something that could make somebody's
life better, anything, like my phone. I'm like, no, you don't understand. If you have an
Apple phone, everything connects. You can air drop it to here. And you get like, so you want to sell it
because you know that like telling somebody about it is actually going to make their life better.
Right. And it's a disservice to your customer or to the people around you for not telling them about
it. Right. Same thing as Jesus. Like if it really changed.
your life and you're actually really walking it out like you I look around and I see people that
look so sad in their eyes and I'm like they just need Jesus like yeah if they would just hear me out
and listen to me I can tell them about what they're missing well and here's the other thing is
is and if you believed that he was the only the only way to get to heaven because it clearly says
I am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but for me so listen
you better believe that because nobody's going to heaven unless they receive him that's just the facts it says it in john
so either you believe that or you don't or do you think just being a good person is going to get to somebody to heaven
it's not it is not there are not many ways there is one way and you best believe that you better be
sharing that so that you see as many souls in heaven that have touched your life and you have touched your life
I mean, really, again, it's the only thing that you can take to heaven.
And that'll be a reward.
Yeah.
I really don't think we truly believe that there is.
I really don't believe a lot of times we take how serious heaven in hell is.
I really don't because if we, if we did, we'd have the urgency.
We'd feel the urgency of winning the lost and knowing like it's life and death.
it's that serious.
Very true.
Yeah, absolutely.
Very true.
I don't know.
I mean, for me, like.
Right.
So what's a practical thing?
Let's say somebody's watching and they're like, they just don't even know where to start.
Like they do.
To win the loss?
They want to win the loss.
But they're like, okay, so I tried soul winning and like, like, it's just not for me or I, like, I just, whatever.
They have an excuse.
what's something else you would encourage them to do?
Because soul winning is like, that's like an easy thing.
Like that's something that if nobody's tried it before, even if you tried it before,
like you just have to keep doing it.
Keep doing it until a place where you're like, okay,
maybe I want to do it a little bit differently or maybe there's a different like
group of people I want to reach.
But like that would give you a really great like start.
But what if it's like, what if that didn't work?
What is something else somebody could do?
Like a practical thing somebody could do.
Well, share the gospel.
You first need to understand.
understand what the gospel is. Yeah. If you don't understand the gospel, you can't share it. So you got to know
Romans, go to Romans 3, read it, go to Romans 6. I think it's Romans 10. Hold on a second. I can tell you
one way. Let me tell you really quick. I like that. That's kind of what I was hoping you would say,
is like that you start with, like, because that's what we just said is that if you have this like gem and
it's so, so special to you, it's almost impossible to not want to share it. So if you're not feeling a
burden at all in any way, shape, or form.
Like, Vanessa and I are youth ministry.
We're in women's ministry.
Like, we feel a burden for it.
Like, when something comes up, like, we want to handle it.
We're in the trenches with these ladies, like, pulling them out.
We're in the trenches with the youth pulling them out.
And we're burdened by it some days.
Like, and because we know the answer.
Like, we know what's in us.
And we know if they just surrender.
If they just do the one step, if they just do this, that they're going to see the
turnover.
But we know, like, we know the gospel.
And you can give someone that,
something that you, like you don't possess.
Right.
So if you're not fully convinced yourself, right?
Maybe start there.
Yeah, you got a nut.
Yeah.
You have to know why you believe what you believe.
Yeah.
And you don't have to have all the answers.
Like, again, there are plenty of times when, I mean, it's gotten way different
from me, but throughout my walk with God, there have been plenty of times been like,
that's a good question.
Right.
I don't know the answers to that.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
It's okay to say you don't know. Let's study it out together. Hey, I actually don't know the answer to that. Or I'll get back to you. Yeah. And that gives you another appointment. Yes. Yeah. Perfect. With a person. Yes. Yeah. Because people are afraid. They're afraid that they won't have the answer. I've heard that. Who cares though? Right. So that's what you do. You just say, oh my gosh, that's a great question. I feel like people like would rather that. Yes. Oh my gosh.
something as you go. All the time. Whenever I buy something from somebody or you go on tour or you go,
not tour as in whatever, but like whenever I've gone and I've like gone someplace new and you're like,
you want to tour a city or you want to go and go and you go and you go and you're telling you
all about whatever. And you ask them a question. They're like, that's a good question. I don't know
the answer to that question. Well, I respect that. Me too. Yeah. I'm like, okay,
So you don't know everything about everything?
Oh, neither do I.
And that's okay.
That means that's reality.
Not everybody knows about everything about everything.
You can study something out and you can be trained, but you're still going to every, I mean, you should never think that you know everything about everything.
You should be teachable every single day of your life.
True.
Amen.
And as soon as you think you know everything, you're going to find out real quick.
No, you don't.
Yes.
Right.
No, you don't.
True.
And that's okay.
It's really okay.
Okay, so you were looking at Romans.
No, I just, it's Romans 10.
Let me, I'll go back to it.
Romans 10, 13, 14 says,
For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.
But how can they call on them to save them unless they believe in him?
And how can they believe in him if they've never heard about him?
That tells you right there, you have a job.
It goes back to, Roman, go to chapter three, go to chapter three, go to chapter
just six go to 10 like you have to understand you have a job to do yes and that job has to be fulfilled
by you you cannot rely on other people to do that job right that's not what god told us to do
it not to pray somebody else in or give the responsibility to somebody else like it is our
job find something that if you aren't confident find something that you can have a partner to
help you out in it. And then, like, both of you can lean on one another. Yeah. And feel comfortable
in that. Exactly. Right. Right. For sure. And if you, if you have any level of entrepreneurship in you,
like, that should feel familiar. Because most of the time, you have no idea what you're doing as a
business owner. If you're a new mom, you had no idea what you were doing as a new mom. Like,
there's all kinds of areas in our life where we don't know. And that's okay. So what do
You do.
You network.
How did you adapt and overcome?
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You outsource.
You network.
You have a friend.
Ask people.
Hey.
What's working with you?
Like, what's working in your business?
And how can I implement that in mind?
Right.
Yeah.
Soul winning.
Ask somebody.
How do you, like, what do you say when you don't know?
Like, just ask questions.
And stay curious.
And then tell somebody about Jesus.
And here's the thing.
If you want, I mean, if you want the people are always like, I don't know anybody.
But, but here's the thing.
It says that.
we're to be the light. And if you're the light, then people will want what you have. Like,
flies don't go to vinegar. Flies go to honey. Okay. So, or something that smells like poop.
That smells like honey to them. Be the very thing that people want to smell or be like. Because
if you are living a lifestyle that is just like theirs, then they want nothing to do with it.
You cannot live two different lifestyles and expect to get results that are winning people to the kingdom.
You can't be a gossip.
You can't be a liar.
You can't be cheating people.
You can't treat people horribly.
It matters if you have somebody who is not saved in the car and you are going through the drive-thru
or you're sitting there sitting at a table and somebody's waiting on you and you act ugly to the waitstaff.
Like, you're not different.
But if you're kind and sweet and that person sees how you treat a wait person,
a person that's waiting on you or whatever the case may be,
and they see the doors opening where that person is, like, drawn to you,
they might be drawn to you.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Like, for me, like, there have been times where my kindness,
to somebody else
has made somebody else
who has been present in a situation
be curious about my situation
because they're like,
I would like it if somebody responded to me like that.
So now they want what you have
because they like that that person treated you
a certain way
and they don't get treated like that.
You know what?
Absolutely.
And you can live your life
in such a way that your life
tells the story of the gospel.
that when people look at you, they're like,
I want what she has.
She is full of joy.
She is full of peace, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness.
Why?
Yep.
And they will, like, gravitate towards you.
Because they want people to be the same way to them as they are to you.
Right.
And when they come to you, what do you share?
You share Jesus.
Yep.
So live your life in such a way.
Like if you're going to be a Christian,
and you're going to call yourself a follow of Christ,
like make sure you're emanating joy and not.
Right.
Because what did they do with Jesus?
When Jesus walked to earth, they ran to him.
Yeah.
They were running him down.
True.
Like he had to get in a boat to get away from them.
And then they found him.
Right.
Make you be that.
Smile when you're out in public.
Yeah.
Like make yourself approachable.
Don't look miserable.
Be the difference.
And last thing is, is don't be worried if you're rejected.
Yeah.
Because guess what?
That's life.
But at least you'll have been obedient.
First Corinthians 3-6 says, I planted the seed.
This is Paul.
I planted the seed in your hearts and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow.
Beautiful.
So here's the thing.
People will reject you.
You may just plant a seed, okay?
And then later on, I will tell you this.
I will close this story.
I will close it out with this.
When Tom worked for the sheriff's office,
I cannot tell you how much that man witnessed to people.
How many times people would call him and ask for, you know,
can we meet up and they would share like whatever they were walking through in life?
That's seed planting, guys.
It's not always, let me tell you about Jesus.
It's about when people say, you know what, can I meet up with you?
I need to like talk something over with you.
It's as simple as that.
sharing the gospel. Can I tell you how many times that happened to him? But he had, he had this
supervisor, this supervisor that he witnessed to, I cannot tell you so many times. And he ended up
retiring. Tom ended up retiring. And this is a guy that he basically, they got sworn in within
years with each other and Tom served for 25 years so they were in the sheriff's office for a really
long time they would see each other they they knew each other I mean at one time they were really
good friends and then you know as you get promoted and you go into different departments you go
you it's not that you're not still friends it's just you you don't see each other very much
but he would still see they would still see each other Tom and him still talked and there were times
where Tom witnessed to him still.
And Tom retired, and I think it was like three years after Tom retired, he gets a text
from this guy saying, now he's retired, saying that he had just given his life to the Lord.
And when he gave his life to the Lord, when he walked up in that church and surrendered his
life to the Lord, he said, Tom was the, everything that Tom ever said to him was flooding back to him.
Yeah.
I believe it.
So you may feel rejected.
Yeah.
Okay.
That guy never, ever acted like he cared about, a lick about what Tom said.
Right.
Yeah.
But again, that seed was planted.
Somebody will water it and God will do the rest.
You may not be the one that gets to harvest it, but you planted the seed and you
play a part in that salvation and that person being redeemed.
Right.
And we're friends with them.
Like, we're still friends.
they've moved to out of country and we still stay connected.
He gives to this church.
I love that.
He gives an offering to this church.
You just don't know.
And if somebody rejects you, don't be bothered by it.
Because you don't know how many years.
It was 20 plus years down the road that you'll be able to hold that to your account.
So never worry about rejection.
Plow through it.
Don't worry about it.
because you never know what the future holds.
But never stop sharing the gospel.
It is life and death, people.
You are going, you probably will enter into heaven and live in eternity in heaven.
But shame on you if you only take you with you.
True.
Shame on you because that's not what we're called to do.
All right.
Sunday.
Oh, tonight, Tom's Bible study, Instagram, live, and,
TikTok live.
You won't,
not me this time.
It's all Tom Lifely.
He's back in action, baby.
So you'll see him tonight.
So be on there live,
Instagram live,
and TikTok live.
And then we will see you on Sunday.
Awesome.
Can't wait.
Thank you for joining us.
Bye.
Real talk.
