The Hope Hotline - Is Capital Punishment, Murder? | S02-40 | 06-19-2024

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

Is Capital Punishment, Murder? | S02-40 | 06-19-2024

Welcome to the Hope Hotline and it is Wednesday and I don't know why I tell the day. As if we don't know already. I'm so sick of me telling the daggum day of what it is. I don't know why I do that. I'm not doing that anymore. I keep telling myself I'm not going to do it anymore, and I do it. Super frustrating. Do you know what my favorite thing is?

What is your favorite thing? When people leave a voice message to me, like it's in my text message, and they're like, hi, this is Chrissy. How are you doing, Tracy? And I'm like, I know. I know who it is. So that's how I feel. I feel like it's just like you introducing. It's Wednesday.

Yeah, it's annoying. But I will tell you, every time Tom calls me, every time Tom calls me, I'll answer, I'll be like, hello. And he'll be like, this is Tom Likely here. First of all, why are you telling me your last name? Why are we

so official? Why are you telling me your last name? I like it. This is Tom Likely here. That's what his name is. I was going to say. In my phone, I don't have like honey or babe or Tom I have Jeff Tomas

oh my gosh you guys are so formal I know I don't know it's weird but whose husband calls up and gives their full name to let you know it's them calling no I mean when Jer answers the phone i mean when jare calls you what does he say he just starts the conversation correct yeah like hey tracy yeah

yeah not say my name no not hey jare for others here no one is around you say baby i love you all right somebody listens to secular music. I don't know that song, but I've heard that song. What? I don't know. I don't listen to secular music. Not that I think it's so terrible, because I don't. I mean, I don't think. I mean, everything within reason and sometimes what people listen to,

like every seed you plant comes up. But I'm just saying, do I think it's terrible if people listen to secular music? No, I don't. I think people make way too big of a deal out of it. Work out your salvation with your own finger and trembling. But I don't know. I don't know that song. I don't listen to it. So why are you surprised? That was like 20 years ago.

I figured you would have heard it by now. Is it really? Yeah, Destiny's Child. I was married. I was married to Tom. I had to norm on it. I was saved. That wasn't in my bad days. I was married. I was married to Tom. I had. That's why. I was saved. I was. That wasn't in my bad days. I was completely saved.

Yeah. OK. I stopped listening to secular music. I don't know. I before I married Tom, I think. OK. I don't know. Maybe a little after I married Tom.

I don't know. Yeah. But I don't care. I mean little after on me every time. I don't know. But I don't care. I mean, my kids listen to secular. Everybody I know listens to secular music for the most part. And sometimes I'm like, there for the longest time, like Norma would sing a song. I'm like, how do you know that song?

I had no idea she was listening to secular music. I'm a good mom. Yeah, well. But I'm like, whatever. Some of that Christian music, though. It's terrible. I have some strong feelings. Yeah. It's But I'm like, whatever. Some of that Christian music, though. It's terrible. I have some strong feelings against

some of the Christians. It's just as bad as secular in some respects because it is a double-mindedness. No, you know, I shouldn't say I didn't know,

but when she got to be like 16, 15, 16, I think she, maybe a little bit younger than that, she was listening to secular.

But before that, when she was way young, that's what I'm talking about. But it was all those movies because Disney has all of those. Yeah, like same movies all of those like yeah like how do you know that yeah exactly that's why i figured you had heard it because it's like so old that it's like shown up and but i only heard it probably through something like i feel like i know it but i don't

know yeah yeah i couldn't tell you after say my name say my name whatever what's after that yeah okay like she started singing words, and I'm like, I didn't know that those words went with that song. That's funny. The song is about, basically, the girl wants the guy to say her name because she knows that he's talking to lots of women. So she's like, say my name, fool, because I know you're talking to other women.

Same. So does she want to date him? I think they already are. They're like already a thing. I don't know the background. Leave that dude. And loose. Skip.

No way. Yep. I mean, who wants to be another number in the equation? Not me. Not this girl. I like myself too much. I ain't going to be somebody else's whatever. That's like when Tom

wanted to date me and another girl. I was like, uh-uh. Sorry, not happening. That's like sister-wife stuff. Well, no. He just was an idiot.

This is not Utah. Like, he was an idiot. Like, who does that? Right. Somebody who thinks, somebody who hasn't dated very much. Yes.

That's who does that. Like, I want to date you and her. How's that sound? It doesn't sound good. No. But at least he didn't do it behind my back. Right. Absolutely.

Like, a lot of guys cheat. He was honest. Yeah, he was honest. He's not a cheater. Right. He's just not got a lot of brain cells when it comes to the dating situation. Oh, my gosh. He loves a Lulu.

Yeah, even he would tell you, I don't know what I was thinking with that. I know. Shoot your shot. Because he never dated before. Listen, if you saw him when I first saw him, you'd understand why he asked that question. He had not dated very much. I mean, if I showed you pictures. I want pictures. Yeah, let's do it. I can't believe I've been here this long and I've never seen pictures.

No, I haven't seen any pictures of this era. What? It was interesting. Come on. It was interesting. When I first started dating him, my sister was like, are you sure about that? He has a good personality. That's what I, well, I didn't really, when I first started dating him, like I didn't really, I was just friends.

Yeah, right. Right. And then 10 days in, I was like, maybe I just don't want to be friends. Maybe I can fix this right here. Because it's not personality problems. It's exterior issues. It's all cosmetic. It's all cosmetic.

So superficial potential. The problem was is I fixed him cosmetically and then all the other girls liked it. Of course. That's a problem. Yeah. You should have waited until you had that ring on your finger.

I did. And then I went from being chased to being chasing. Oh my gosh. I was chasing him. Yikes. Never chased a guy in my life. I feel like this is a Hallmark movie. It does.

It's a very bad one. Hey, but you win in the end. I know the ending. Yeah. I did win in the end. But I knew I was going to win. I know. Because you're a winner.

Confidence. Well, first of all, I'm not a quitter. True. Second of all, I already knew God told me he was one. So unless he was going to be disobedient, which there's always that chance, but Tom's too afraid of God.

Yeah. So I was, I was pretty much, I pretty much knew how it was going to end because he was too afraid to not be obedient. Right.

Right. So he just had to succumb to the Holy Spirit. That's it. And to me. That's the best way to do it. Yeah. Just lean in. It was. So in the end, yeah, but I don't quit. That's it. And to me. That's the best way to do it. Yeah. Just lean in.

It was. So in the end, yeah, but I don't quit. So that helps. Women, if you know the truth, just stick to it. Yeah. And everything. Yeah. And men.

Yep. But so you want to do your thing or do we have anything? Did you want to tell me anything? Because I pretty much just walked in, guys. I know. I know. We got some work going on in the building. Yep. have anything did you want to tell me anything or because i pretty much just walked in guys i know i know we got some work going on in the building yep we have work going on in the building that's exciting keep on keeping on god bless if you hear anything it's it's construction yep i think it's good though we got to keep things moving although nobody can see what's going on right because they

only go into the sanctuary they don't know the rest of everything that's going on. Well, we cover it up. Like the second we like take something down, we put it right back. So nobody knows. That's true. Accurate.

Eventually. Yeah. There's always every week. Pretty much. There's something being done here, but big or small. It's happening. So it's good.

So that's it. Yeah. I mean, anything, anything, anything. That's it? All right.

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And then you can invite them to our Beloved Ladies Conference, which is in a couple months after that, August 22nd through the 24th. We will have some amazing, powerful speakers just like last year. And that will be an amazing time. Very, very excited for that one. Can't wait. Now we are just to prepare everybody. We're going to take a week off in July. Okay. Right? For the FIRE conference because everybody is going. Yeah. Yeah, we got the whole crew.

Everybody is going. Heather is going. Tracy is going. Talia is going. Vanessa is going. Sarah is staying home and so am I. So FIRE week, what's that week? July 15th to the 19th.

So it's July 15th through the 19th. And then you're going away for a week or two. And depending on how long that is, I'm seriously thinking about we'll just take off that whole entire time. Yeah. Yeah. Give everybody a... Not a break. A reason to miss us. Huh? A reason to miss us. Yeah. Yeah. Give everybody a, not a break. A reason to miss us. A reason to miss us.

Yeah. Make you want us coming back for more. Exactly. That's right. So, uh, just know that. So we won't be here. We have vacation time coming. That's all I'm going to say. Plus, I'm thinking with that time I can get i gotta let i'm gonna be prepping and getting a lot of stuff done so that'll be good for me okay um but so keep met in a mental right now mentally it's one week definite right two to three tops yeah and they'll probably be consecutive correct yeah okay so um are we just, oh, now let me just tell you, Fire Week is in Tampa and it's for youth. So if you have a youth and they come to this church,

make sure that they get registered and signed up. They've got a great week planned for the youth, junior high and senior high, correct? Yeah, 13 to 18. They have to be in high school. Okay. Yeah, they have to be in high school. Right.

Exactly. But we'll do junior high. What's the age? Yeah, 13 is the youngest. Is that seventh grade? Yeah, I think so. I think going into seventh. But it is 13 is the youngest.

They have to be 13 by that date, which is July 15th. Good. And then they have to be 18, no older, and they have to be in high school. Yes, which makes sense. Why would a college student be going to a youth? I know. I think the reason they say 19

is just for kids that are still in high school that have just gotten older. Failed or something? Yeah, or they're older. They just, for whatever reason, their birthday fell on a weird time. They graduated this year,

and they're finishing. Yeah, because why would a college person want to be going? Somebody who graduated high school, why would they want to go to that right i know there's a like college and career kind of stuff what is that you're a leader yeah you're you're my leader that's different though wait i'm talking about why would somebody go and want to participate unless you're trying to pick up chicks. Oh, my God. Or a girl's trying to find a guy. I mean, usually that's why they do it.

Or hang out with Jesus. What? Or hang out with Jesus. No one's that pure, Vanessa. Sorry to say. Vanessa lives in a bubble. Yeah. That's okay, Vanessa.

That's so sweet. That's what we love about you. But listen, they have a fire week right after that for the adults. And so it's right after fire week's done, the next week, the consecutive week after that is for adults. That's when I'll be there. Yeah, which is one of the reasons why taking off the next week is very appealing to me. Because then we have our worship night, which most of you guys don't know about this. But Crave is coming back. Hey this, but Crave is coming back.

Crave is coming back. We have a night of worship at the end of July. It's July 26. So put that on your calendar because it's going to be good. Do you remember the last one we had? The last Crave we had? No, the last worship night we had.

It was like right before COVID. Everything shut down. Oh, my gosh. I do remember that. I just knew it. Like four years ago. Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that.

That was really good. So put that on your calendars, too. 7 o'clock, a night of worship. We'll have it on the sign out there, and plus we'll be announcing it. And I don't know. Maybe he'll be able to live stream it for people, but I don't know. That's a whole other can of worms. He might just, Aaron might just leave that for like I did for later.

But so we got some good things coming up. Yes. Really good things. Really good things. So let us go into the first question if everybody's ready. Let's do it. All right. This question is so good because I can't tell you,

this is a question that Christians have been perplexed by and have asked me way more than once, and I'm very happy that it's a question because it is somewhat, it would seem like it would be hypocritical for a Christian to believe one thing and say it's okay for another thing. But this is the question.

I know abortion is murder, but how do you feel about capital punishment, the death penalty? Isn't that murder too? Isn't that interesting? Such a good question. Such a good question. Such a good question. Okay, both are murder, but we're going to look at both things

because both are different. And let's look at abortion. Abortion is murdering an innocent baby and never giving it a fighting chance. Okay, you've made the decision that this child no longer gets to live. That is murder. And it's the murder of an innocent victim, correct? So that's abortion is wrong.

But death penalty, capital punishment, is when, and I have scripture, but when that's happening is that's the punishment of someone who has taken a life. Let me give you a list of reasons why the death penalty, which I had to look up. I'm like, when is the death penalty used? Because I always thought it was murder, but it's not just murder. So it's only used in extreme cases, and in order to have the death penalty or capital punishment applied to your crime,

these are the things that you would have had to have done in order to make that happen, because not just anybody can be given the death penalty. It's for serial killers, assassination, mass murder, child murder, aggravated rape, terrorism, aircraft hijacking, and war crimes, and then there's et cetera, which it goes into other things. There's a big difference between somebody who is evil and wicked and an innocent child.

And so let's look at Scripture. So I hope that opens up a little bit. I mean, so why would a Christian be okay with one and not the other? Well, one, because something never did anything to cause themselves to have a consequence of having their life taken. And so there's a difference. So Genesis 9, 6 says, whoever sheds man's blood by man, his blood shall be shed for in the image of God, he made man. Now, some people go, well, that's an Old Testament.

That's an Old Testament scripture. Jesus came and he gave life. He didn't take life. And he gave forgiveness and repentance. Well, Romans 13, one through seven says, let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. Now, this is what people used for COVID, for when churches closed.

But that shouldn't have ever been used for COVID because when somebody tells you you can't assemble as a body of believers in our fellowship, when the word specifically tells us not to forsake the fellowshipping of ourselves together, especially as the day approaches, we don't abide by governing authorities. We abide by the word of God. And we don't, we have a constitution. So that constitution overrides the governing authorities, but not when you commit a crime. And there was no crime committed with COVID because we were all allowed to assemble. And especially in the state of Florida, we weren't breaking the law. It says, let every soul, and nobody was actually,

to be honest with you, because the president never said nobody could gather and assemble together. And he didn't say that businesses had to close. So we were all not breaking the law if we went to church, especially if we went to church, because when people can go to strip clubs, we can go to church. So it says, Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore, whoever resists the authorities

or resists the ordinance of God and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid. If there's no consequences for actions, then people will do whatever they want.

And that's where this scripture applies to. If you do something there's a consequence and if you kill somebody um to a certain extent how to the degree that you commit the crime you may be subject to the death penalty and that's basically right here but if you do evil be afraid for he who he for he does not bear the sword in vain, for he is God's minister and avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore, you must be subject not only because of wrath, but also for conscious sake. For because of this, you also pay taxes, for they are God's ministers attending continually to this very thing render therefore to all their due taxes to whom taxes are due customs to who customs fear to whom fear honor to whom honor so don't commit

the crime if you can't do the time right you don't want to if you don't want to be subject to something don't do that very thing that you don't want to have dealt to you. But it's absolutely, as a Christian, you can see, it's like war as a Christian. It clearly says in the scripture, I mean, God had war and he was taking life because that's war. And we are allowed to defend and we are allowed to stand. And if a life is taken in wartime, as a Christian, just because there's murder in war, that doesn't mean there's the consequence of going to hell or doing criminal time. There's none of that. War is very different. But as Christians, if we believe in the death penalty, and there's plenty of

Christians who don't believe in the death penalty because they take a stand on taking no life, but that's not the Bible. And you can still take that stand if you want to, but the ones that do take the stand for an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, which is Old Testament, we're not wrong either. But there is a difference between abortion and murder or capital punishment or death penalty ladies give me your opinion and maybe you have a different one and you don't agree with the scriptures i just used which is totally fine because some people don't agree and i'm all right with that go ahead i mean my immediate was eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth and i know matthew you know jesus talks about that there and says, you know,

that to not resist an evil person. But my thing is, if it's that bad that they're on the death penalty, then they're in jail for the rest of their life anyways. So I know that doesn't make sense to just like murder them, but I don't know. I just think that there is, like they've done what they've done.

So I just agree with everything you said, basically. You disagree? No, I agree with everything you said. For me, I'll be honest with you. I think we let them live far too long. I know. And my tax dollars could be spent on something far better. I know. And it sounds bad, but it's also like.

What about the victim? Right. And they did what they did. And they get to live and eat and drink. And their family doesn't get to see them, but they can't correspond with them. Right. I know. I know. Whatever.

But I've always thought this. The family of the victim doesn't. Yeah. I've always thought that. I was always okay with capital punishment. Do the crime, do the time kind of thing. Oh, yeah. always okay with capital punishment um do the crime do the time kind of thing so oh yeah and literally i'm like we could spend our money on such better things go ahead tell you do you have an opinion no not really you don't care i just agree uh yeah i agree with you you agree with me

yeah wise decision just kidding vanessa she's a softy so let's see where she goes i am a softy but i just have never eat this was never even a thought in my mind. Like, I've never even compared the two. Nobody's ever asked you that question, ever? No. Really? No, maybe it's just my circle that I'm in. I don't know.

Your tribe doesn't care? No. No, I guess not. Nobody's getting corporal punishment in our tribe. But God's word is clear. And so, if it makes, I i mean when you read that scripture it makes sense to me and so who am i to go against what god's word says so um but yeah this is something that i've just never really put much thought to at all oh yeah i've i don't i i've

been asked it's uh i don't know how many times in ministry and some people are very especially like um um especially like um the the millennials they have problems some millennials have big problems with it because it bothers them so what are they doing with that information like are they over there trying to win their soul so that they make sure that they go to heaven see that's the thing like you can have such a big opinion but you're doing nothing with it right you know what i mean yeah yeah i know but they feel like it's hypocrisy think but they feel like us as believers uh but these are also people that are very archie yeah associated related churches they're very like everything's permissible. Homosexuality is permissible. The whole thing.

It's like, there are no rules. And so, and live and let live. If somebody makes a mistake, well, if it's contrary to something else, then maybe you're wrong. It's very difficult for them to understand that you make a strong stand, and you'll pick it, and you'll pray over, you know, like, Planned Parenthood and things like that, or make a strong stand against girls going in and having an abortion. You're praying over those girls.

You're not hating the girls. You're hating what they're doing. And there's forgiveness for them. Absolutely. Okay? Absolutely. That's a given. I mean, anybody who's had an abortion, God is forgiven.

If you ask, it's forgiven. It's under the blood. As far as the East is to the West. That's not the point. The point is it's not the same, though. And they'll say abortion is the same as a Christian is so against abortion, but how can a Christian be so against abortion, but you're so okay with death penalty?

They're both murder. They're not both the same, though. It's not. And you said time of war, too, because I've always thought that, too, with police officers and people in the military. I thought of that more than probably corporal punishment. So if you're a Christian and you're okay with a police officer protecting you with the deadly force, then what's the difference? I know they're two separate entities. One's like somebody did something wrong and they're put to death. But the other one, it's still death at the end of the day.

And it's to protect you as a cop or military or whatever. So I just, I don't know. They all kind of fall in the same vein for me. Yeah. I see. Yeah. And for me, they all do fall under the same parameters to a certain extent. And I can see the opposite argument where maybe they can find Jesus in jail. You know, there's prison ministry. There is that opportunity is that opportunity maybe you know that's also an option so i can see that view which is what some of them have said but what if we're killing them but they could be well i'm like well then again don't do the crime yeah and that's and the people

that take strong opinions are they in prison ministry? Like, are you doing it? Like, you can have a strong opinion. No, none of these people have ever. I know, so that's what I'm saying. So if you have a really strong opinion about their salvation, then, you know, put the time behind it. Well, I don't know if they're so concerned about their salvation. They're more concerned about the hypocrisy of you're, as believers,

and they're Christians too, as believers, you're pretty believers we're and they're christians too that's what as believers you you're pretty strong stands about about abortion but yet you're totally okay with with the death penalty it makes no sense to me and i feel and they literally are like i find it hypocritical yeah and i'm like well i don't know what to tell you read your bible because it ain't yeah and then to them i would say are you okay with a police officer protecting you a deadly force if somebody's coming against your family and then why because they did a different crime so like i don't i don't my brain just doesn't see the difference between the two because they never think about it like that they never think about if somebody broke into their home and they had to kill somebody. Right. Right.

Like, is that a justifiable? Right. Reaction. Or send our guys to war. Is it like, so they don't get to kill anybody when they're at war. They just are.

They don't think war is the same though. Just so you know, the people that I've talked to, war's never, never even been brought up because war seems logical. Right. Right. I understand.

Yeah. No, I get that. I just, I don't, I don't know the strong Right, right. I understand. Yeah, no, I get that. I just, I don't know the strong stance against it, I guess. You know. Sarah, let's hear this one. She's probably the one we're talking about. No, I'm not. I'm joking.

I would have been shocked about that one. My thought process is I definitely 100% believe in capital punishment, but I also think let's do it a little faster and a little cheaper like oh wow why are we gonna keep them in for all these years and pay all this money and then use the electric chair which is like you know how much it costs to electrocute somebody or like use them on a pill yeah bullets super cheap Yeah. Bullets. Super cheap. Right to the head. Yeah, a bullet is cheap. That's true.

You can do it like a cow right between the forehead. Oh, my gosh. They won't even know what hit them. Now we're like, wait a minute. Wait, I don't know. Like cattle. That's what they do to me and Heather's cows. They just go right up and shoot them right between the forehead.

That's so sad. Give them a chance to repent. Okay. And then good night. Sean said stones are cheap. Biblical. Stones? That's true.

Let's keep it biblical. Let's keep it biblical? Yeah. That'll keep us Christians. You know, I've often thought of this is terrible, but what if what you did to somebody that's how you were killed. Do you know what I'm saying? If you're given a death penalty, how you

did something to someone is how it will be dealt to you. That's an eye for an eye. Who's going to do it? They have to live with that. Like, if somebody gets, somebody chops someone up and do a little pieces. Hey, listen, there's plenty of hateful people out there that'll take that. They should give the family a member.

A family member. Yeah. You can't hear Heather. But Heather's like, just put them all in the same yard together and let them at each other. Okay. That's a good idea. That'd be fun. Yeah, no, that's true.

Nobody's guilty. A reality show? Then televise it. A reality show. Like Gl good idea. That'd be fun. That's true. Nobody's guilty. Then televise it. Like Gladiator. This is taking a turn. Oh my gosh. Yeah, this has taken a turn. Sarah started this. I was being very neutral. We're pretty violent.

I have a feeling we're violent people. Wait, wait. Just you and Sarah. Yeah, you could do Hunger Games. Yeah, that's true. It could be a Hunger Games thing. Wait, wait. No, just you and Sarah. Well, yeah, you could do like Hunger Games. Yeah, that's true. It could be a Hunger Games thing. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

I don't know. I just, for me, I think if people actually like had, I think if people actually were punished the same way they punish others, then they might think about how they might not do some of the things that they do. I truly believe it. Like in other countries, when you steal, they cut off your hand. People don't steal anymore because they like their hands. I mean, come on.

China's rough. Bring back eye for eye. I mean, oh my gosh. That'll be our new hats. Bring back eye for an eye. Oh, pot line. Our new motto. Bill was telling me El Salvador is like one of the safest places to live.

But the consequences for committing a crime are like very extreme. Are they corrupt? Are they like? No, it's actually a very conservative country now. I would go for that as long as it's as long as it's fair and it's not like, you know, corrupt. Because that would be hard being in a corrupt place with harsh punishment. And here's the thing. In some cases, I go back to in in some cases especially back in the day when

people were accused of crimes and they actually did not commit them and dna has proven but now we have dna right so we know if you did something or if you didn't do it more than likely if you're on death row you did the crime not not a hundred percent i know there's innocent people they're serving time right this very minute that are innocent as innocent can be. But I'm just saying, DNA on the ones with the DNA, get rid of them.

Well, listen. Would you bang them too? That's cheap. Oh my gosh. But listen, if I did... The gallows. Oh my gosh. Heather goes, use the same rope over and over again. Oh, my gosh. You're vicious. You are vicious.

Listen, though, if I did something that was this bad that I had to be on death row, I wouldn't want to be on death row. I would just want to die. Well, because you're a torturer. I know. It's because... I know. I know.

But still. So, like, I am thinking about their... I'm in their shoes as well. And I know I have Jesus, but I can't think outside of that. So, I would just be forgiven and I would go see Jesus yeah that's where I stand on this in some ways in some ways the death penalty is way easier yeah but in other ways and my pocketbook it's not like I'm just like get rid of them get rid of them hey try and get them saved right absolutely bye bye see you later yeah yep that's how I feel anybody got anything else to add

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Let's do it. All right. That would be a good one. It would be. Yeah, I'd love to hear. Because with the market the way it is, that would be very, very good. Very interesting. Whether you're selling or just want to know yep like what

your property is worth i bet you she could give you some good tips absolutely especially with the hurricane holy crime and nolies so next thing next question now i'm gonna ask the peanut gullery because they have kids but uh this is an interesting question for me, and then they can tell you about theirs. But, you know, parenting is very tough in some ways. In some, people have not been brought up very well. Navigating through good parenting, especially if you're a new Christian, tapping into things with your kids and helping them navigate through things is not always easy because you maybe didn't have good parenting, so you don't have a good something to fall back on, right? Like for me, my parents were Christians,

and I know in that aspect of things what was I, what was good and what was bad and how I would do it different. And then some things they did were really good. And I should have followed that, but I just, you know, and that you look back and you sit there and go, I wish I would have done that. Like my parents did, because that was way better than the way I did it. You know, it's, it's, It's tough to navigate through certain things. But the question is, both of your kids are grownups.

Norma helps lead worship, and Tommy is doing something completely different, which he is. Totally opposite. First, how did you help your kids discover their potential and talents? And second, how did you encourage them to follow and go after them? This is a very good parenting question. That's why I'm, the parenting book. I'm looking at Sarah because Sarah's smiling at me.

Because Sarah wants to do the book and Sarah wants to co-do it with me. I, how you did it right and she wants to do how you do it wrong. She's joking, but it's super funny. But she wants to do the book with me. Because I did some things wrong. And you can always learn from people how they do them wrong. Absolutely. As much as you can do how you did them right. Yeah, absolutely.

So her rights and her wrongs and my rights and my wrongs. I'm sure we'd have a fantastic book. You would. It'd be very interesting. I can promise you that. Yep. But so I will tell you, like, for Norma, Norma was very, very easy for me to know. She's kind of like Brinley.

Brinley came out singing, right? Brinley loves to sing. Norma came out singing. Like, I did, too. Like, I grew up and i used to sing in church um from very young all the way up until like early with this church i've always done that stuff i'm not doing that anymore but that's one of the things that God blessed me. And, and same with Norma. And Norma is way better singer than me. But, but she's, her talent was super easy to identify. And sometimes, like you guys might have a kid that you're still searching and trying to figure it out. But you'll find out that they're

very talented in writing, they just don't know how to write right now. Right? But you will see through their vocabulary, to some of the things that they say, and how they communicate, you might find out my child is very good at speaking or very good at writing, or maybe both, and then you'll help them go down that vein of that talent, right? Now, Tommy, on the other hand, how do I say this nicely? Tommy can't, Tommy, I Tommy I mean Tommy can sing but that's not really his thing Tommy's more of a sports guy and he's always been tough as nails like I mean he's been tough as nails I remember like him playing with the older kids and some of the things they would do to him and they were like he never cries well I'm like well you should have been here

about an hour and a half when he was having to do math because he was bawling his brains out tough as nails physically but educational no he had no interest he he did good in school but he wasn't he wasn't like education's not his thing he doesn't care for it neither does Norma but Tommy's more of a sports guy and he knew that that's one of the things like he always wanted to Like, education's not his thing. He doesn't care for it, neither does Norma. But Tommy's more of a sports guy, and he knew that that's one of the things, like, he always wanted to do, find something. And then he did. He found his thing, beating faces in and getting his face beat in. He found that, like, when he was 18 years old, maybe 19.

Might have been 19 going into 20. So, but he wants to use fighting for the Lord. Like he, when he uses that opportunity, even when he's been interviewed, he uses that opportunity to talk about being a Christian. Some of the times when he walks into fight, he's played Christian music. So those, that's what he wants to do.

If he progresses and gets bigger in fighting, then that's what he wants to do. He wants to use that talent. But also, I mean, someday he might open a gym. And if he opens a gym and he trains people, that's a venue for him through, because you don't have to be preaching. You don't have to share the gospel. He will use that technique and skillset that God's given him to witness, share the gospel, and maybe teach children about the Lord when he has them in his in his class or whatever so don't close out any just because like norma sings she does worship leading that's a no-brainer right

but um even with that like she went from singing uh around the house to saying okay now she's mature enough let's get her some voice lessons. Her first voice teacher, like out of Sarasota, off the top, number one chart teacher. I mean, she was killer. What was great about her, she was a Christian. And she not only taught her how to sing and to have some control, but because she knew Norma wanted to potentially worship lead, she taught her the spiritual aspect of it as well. So the teaching or the,

the time that she spent with her wasn't just on vocals, but it was like this. When you are leading people in worship, this is where you need to go, you know, study, uh, pray,

like making it an an anointed time. Like, how do you get there? This is what you have to do in your own personal time to get you to a place where when you're leading worship, you carry an anointing. Those are valuable things that people can teach your child that I didn't even expect out of a vocal teacher. So when I found out she was doing that, I was like, thank God I picked a Christian.

Because Christians, again, if your child shows anything ministerial wise, make sure wherever they're getting trained, if you can, make sure it's a Christian training them because they're going to add things to it that, you know, somebody in the world won't. It's super important. Tommy didn't need a Christian Muay Thai teacher. He didn't need that. That's me and Tom's job and his own personal job

and what he learned. But let me see where I'm going with this. Then we have Naz aaron's wife she taught norma and then aaron's taught norma so like god will set him up god will set your kid up and and you don't have to worry about that um what you'd have to do is pray and that's one of the things i think that tom and i did um with both of our kids we always prayed for their future we always worked on them where they were at right now, leading, guiding them. And if we saw a talent and a skill,

we tried to help them in that. Both of them did sports. Both of them did art. You know, our kids were homeschooled, so we still had them participate in things. But when you see your child excelling in one area, then you should encourage them to go in that area. And if they want to quit, try and teach them not to have a quitter's attitude. Because what will happen is it might stifle the gift and talent that God has for them,

and then they won't be operating in that. I will say one other thing before I talk to the girls. But if your kid, like a lot of parents have hopes and dreams and aspirations for their kids. But remember this, those are your hopes, they're your aspirations, and they're your dreams. Don't push those on your kids. If your kid can't sing and they're tone deaf and you want them to be a worship leader someday, they don't have the skill set. And you can't teach tone they're tone deaf and you want them to be a worship leader someday, they don't have the skill set and you can't teach tone. Okay. If they are tone deaf, God has a purpose and a plan for them and it ain't singing. So just because that's your agenda, that's not God's and you will set them up to fail and don't tell them they're a great singer when they suck

because I see it all the time. Why are you looking see it all the time why are you looking at me huh why are you looking at me i would like because i said the word second i thought you would be like um but a lot of times people want their kid to be successful in a certain area so they push it they push it and put you can't. Now, there's some kids that can't sing, that can learn to sing, but if they're tone deaf, they can't carry a note, they're not going to learn it. Correct, Sarah? There's actually physiologically something in your ear. That doesn't allow you to hear that key.

That you can't find the note. You can't carry a tune in a bucket even if it has a lid on it. No matter how hard they try, it's not going to happen. But I have seen parents push their kids in a direction and they don't have that skill set.

And the kid will fail. It's like watching America Idol. Those kids, people going up there singing and being terrible. And all their lives, somebody has told them, you're a great singer. they were not and they were embarrassed go ahead yeah there's there are ways that if somebody has that but

they haven't ever exercised it like that you can teach them but there's different degrees of it so well I've known people who couldn't sing very well. Yeah. But if they get training. But they could get training. And then there's some people, it's not even they can't sing well. They can't hear it. Right.

They're tone deaf. Yeah. That's a difference. I don't know. What do you think? How does that sound? I can't hear it. Then that's not good.

No, it's not good. Tracy, it's not good. How do you know if you're tone deaf? Because I think I have potential. Sing for somebody who actually knows how to sing. Naz? Naz will be able to tell you. Naz will tell you.

Naz will tell me that I'm good. No, I'm saying if... Record yourself and then listen back. Because Vanessa, I will... It's like Vanessa. Vanessa's on the worship team, right? She's taking vocal lessons, okay? There are times when you're flat.

But the only reason you're flat is because your mouth doesn't have the right position. So you can train your mouth to do the right position and then you hit the right key. That's not being tone deaf. Or in your head, if you don't breathe the correct way. You can't hit falsettos. You can't hit high notes. You breathe the right way. Okay can't hit falsettos. You can't hit high notes. You breathe the right way. You can.

Okay. That's fixable. Okay. Tone deafness can't. If you ask somebody who knows how to sing, they can tell you or they can listen to your child and like Sarah or Naz, somebody who has some training in music, they can absolutely play a key on a note or say,

say, did the kids sing this note? Yeah. And if that kid can't sing that note and they do it a couple other, they'll be able to say it. They can't hear it. Okay.

It's not complicated. Correct? Yep. It's not hard. So Hope, what you're saying, and Jer is asking, you're saying that-

You're not singing, Tracy or Jer. You're saying there's a chance. I don't think there's a chance. No. Heather, do you hear that? There's a chance. Heather, do you hear that? There's a chance.

Your glorified body, you will be able to sing. That's what Heather and I are waiting for. Some people try to play instruments. You'll never be able to play that instrument. You have no rhythm. Oh, but I played the clarinet. Or dance. Poorly, I would venture to say.

Do you still play it? No, I don't. I played the recorder. Do you still play it? Oh, my. I play the recorder. If you have no rhythm, you're probably not going to do well with the drums. I can clap. I would love the drums. I can clap.

I can clap. Babe, you can't even dance on beat. I can dance on beat. Okay, so you're not going to. No, you can't. But you have so many other gifts and talents. Thank you, Sarah. You don't need to dance.

It wouldn't be fair if you had it all, Tracy. I think I'm an amazing dancer, but it's fine. But that's how it is. That's the truth. Okay, that's the truth. Oh, man. That's the truth. So steer your kids. My dreams are crushed, but it's okay. What is that? Tracy, you'll be alright.

You steer your kids in the correct direction. Because otherwise, they're gonna feel like a failure. And we should, like, don't do things that crush our kids' spirits. Your mom's chiming in now. Oh, my gosh. Listen. Hey, listen, Kim.

Truth is truth. I did. I sang All Holy Night in second grade. Wow. Okay. In second grade, everybody sits there and goes, oh, isn't that cute you do that you do that as a how old are you get that get off the stage you do that as a what second grade no but how old are you oh i'm 27 26 when you do when you do that as a 27 year old nobody's saying oh that's cute they're like get her off the stage get Get her off the stage. Or they're laughing at you.

Somebody will say, it's the thought that counts. No, it's never. It's never the thought that counts. Wow. Never. I didn't know where I stand with you guys. I didn't know where I stand. Nope.

You know what I used to hate? When you go to church, back in the day, they would have these. They don't do them anymore. And Tom's like, we will never do that when we first, you know. But back in the day, they used to have these talent nights at church where people that normally didn't get to share their talent because like, do you remember that? Wow.

Horrible. I know. I mean, I have friends who still, that their churches, they do that. It's God awful. Let's do it here. Never going to happen. Tom will never let that happen. The youth could have one, though.

No, because what happens is people are literally, like, looking at each other going, why is somebody letting that person sing? Yep. And the only reason they're letting them do it is so that they get their way they get their opportunity when really you're embarrassing and humiliating them because i know no it's not cool people are laughing at them a lot of times i know we're talking about them afterwards it's not cool i used to i was

on a worship team years ago at a methodist church and there was a girl that we used to literally mute her microphone because she was so bad but no no one would take her off of the worship team. I don't know if they gave a lot of money. I don't know what it was. That's not right. She could not sing. And I was so upset about this. I was like, you guys, not only is this terrible that we're doing this

and muting her and she thinks that she's great, but you're robbing her from where she actually should be serving and where her gifts and talents are it was terrible 100 sorry judy but i feel like a lot of worship it was bad you think so yeah especially like um teams that have like when you have like seven vocalists on the stage like i think it's a thing i honestly well no what they should be doing is they want the energy on stage oh i don't agree with that but if you like uh the the one i'm thinking of they have multiple people but they have two people singing

the same harmony another two singing the same harmony they had the lead you know i'm saying so they're all like making it very strong the song very strong with all the harmonies with the one lead vocal i hope that's terrible if that's the case i mean sometimes you like listen i get it like sometimes i don't know thank you what did you say she said she had to turn vanessa down i had to turn vanessa down at one point on Sunday a little bit. Why'd you turn Vanessa down? Thank you. Appreciate that. Why'd you turn Vanessa down? I was just following instructions. It wasn't

my idea. Oh. Oh, I feel so much better. What a weight off my shoulder. That could have been done in private. Thank you. I feel like that's going to increase our viewership.

It's for the plot. It wasn't, it had to do with feedback on your mic. It wasn't your voice. That's what I'm saying. It had to be like, yeah,

that's what I'm like, why was that feedback? Okay, well, partly it's, we'll go with that. I also was like, it was my first time doing sound

and I was very nervous listen that's rough that is rough I'm glad I'm tone deaf the amount of opinions that people had for people that knew that I was doing it it was like

thanks but I didn't really need that. Like people who do sound that haven't been allowed to do sound were like, hey, that was all right. I mean, what do you think? And I'm like, I think you wish it was you instead of me. Just saying. Sound is tough. Sound is.

Sound is tough. But especially when you only had one time to practice it. Yep. Yeah, absolutely. So what are you going to do? I mean, like, you didn't know how to fix the, you didn't know how to fix her problem. You're going to have to, you're going to have to do that, Sarah. I mean, Ty probably would have known how to do it, but he's not there.

So he's on vacation. But, oh, well. What a a downer let's get back to the question why is that a downer is it because huh what what is a downer you're you're you're good about doing i couldn't aaron texted me later and he was saying hey i'm sorry if it sounded like i said you did bad because he was he was just dogging on all kinds of things after service and i was like i didn't even think about it. From the second that I left the building, it was not even on my radar at all. Because I could really care less what people think.

Okay. Because there's like, well, what's the downer? You thinking that people did you a bad job? Is that why you said we're on a downer? Because I didn't think any of it was a downer. Okay. I think she was saying that Vanessa, she had to turn Vanessa down was a downer. Oh I didn't think any of it was a downer. Okay. I think she was saying that Vanessa, she had a term Vanessa down was a downer.

Oh, but Vanessa, it was stacked in her mic. Okay. I'm just trying to catch up. Let's move on. I'm missing. Moving on. I'm missing something.

I'm just trying to catch up. I'm like, what was a downer? Like, maybe because I'm soulless or something? I'm like missing something? Logan said downer for sure. Thanks for confirming. Thank you, Sean.

Sean. I thought you mixed Vanessa. Vanessa very well. Yeah, I appreciate it. I do too. That was amazing. I mean,

listen, but that's just me. It's rough. I felt bad. I think air. I think it was Aaron told me you were only going to have one chance. I thought, oh, my gosh, that's rough. That's a lot of pressure for one person.

That soundboard is not, it's a lot of pressure. Yeah. On a Sunday morning, especially since it mixes out and goes to live stream and you never did that soundboard before i know you have some experience but yours is in theater and it's not in worship team and it's a whole different bird oh and it was an analog board that i used before and this was all digital so that's what i'm saying like that's a lot of pressure i was like oh god that's gonna be rough yeah moving on shut up yeah you did good though i mean considering only having one time

yeah that's rough i would never have wanted to do it so so there's good news for me what's no there's not no listen no listen you'll agree because i don't i get to live vicariously possibly through allison because she's working on singing and piano with naz and rachel and they always have really good feedback so I might be able to vicariously live yeah there you go Heather as well with Brinley so that's true so that is the good news Heather's been praying for Brinley since Brinley was in her womb I love that yeah she has yeah she prayed that she would have a good voice. Huh? And Travis. Yeah. Yeah. I love it.

But listen, it just so happens she does. Thank God. But they wouldn't know if she stunk. Right. I would. I would be like, hold up. Hold up. Wait a minute. Isn't that what that guy is?

Hold up. Wait a minute. We'd be like, stop the presses. Okay. Does anybody have any good advice about like steering your kids in the right direction?

Like when they're very young? We've pretty much all homeschooled. You homeschooled periodically. Your kids are in high school. They do theater. They're good in theater though. You did theater

and I'm talking about Sarah, but would you have let them do it if they stunk? If you found out the first couple years, there ain't no talent here, would you have let them do that? I mean, it just so happens they're good. I mean, they're all like their mom. They're just good at everything. And so it's kind of a tough call.

But if they had not been good, you conceded a little snot over there. I'm just digging myself a hole right now. God bless. If they wouldn't have been good, would you still let them gone on? Because I wouldn't have let my kid go on. I didn't let my girls go on. No, and I had to cast the shows, too. So my kids would come and audition.

I would get a panel of people, because obviously I couldn't cast a show by myself. And the other people would be like, your kids are the lead. And I'd be like, great. Because that makes it look bad. Then we pick somebody else. They're like, well, your kids are the best. You would have stopped them, correct? Yeah, they would never have gotten on this.

And there's nothing wrong with that. People think it's like spanking is hard for people. They like they don't want to punish or hurt their kid. This is the same thing. You're not punishing them, but it's leading and guiding. And you're it's actually like discipline it's necessary evil even though you don't want to do it you have to do it and this is the same thing if your kid wants to chase after something a dream of theirs but they're not capable of doing it it's a necessary

evil to stop it to help them and to guide them into that Vanessa um so my method is I model the behavior I want to see. So if I want my kids to be full of purpose, then I need to be full of purpose. They need to see me walk that out in my own life. And a lot of my kids are what, 14 and 15. So I just sit down and I talk with them like for me like Emma and Jojo are very different so I like I'll sit and do something that Emma enjoys and we'll just chat and we'll talk and build relationship in that way and like today Joe and I had a long car ride and normally he's more quiet and I just like put a fun podcast that we both can listen to. And we like laughed. And then we like had conversation. And I kind of just like ask questions. And he like opens up.

But I meet them where they are. But my model truly is like if I want them to be like full of purpose and walk that out, then they're going to have to see me do that. They're going to have to see their dad do that. And because they can smell hypocrisy a mile away. then they're going to have to see me do that. They're going to have to see their dad do that. Because they can smell hypocrisy a mile away. So if one of them, like, for me, there's like not many. I'll go pretty far.

There's great lengths that I will go to help my kids reach their goal. I don't think there's probably. If they stop showing interest in reaching that goal, then I just stop. But if they're still chasing after it and they're giving it all, they're all in all, I'm like a hundred percent behind them. I don't care what age they are. I will always, because I'm always going to be their parent. And I should be, unless they get married, their biggest cheerleader outside of of their wife. Now, or husband. But if your children showed interest in, even though it's something they're showing purpose in,

Vanessa, would you stop them if they're not capable of achieving that goal? I would provide them with all the tools that they need and see where that goes but and then kind of just like re-evaluate you know because they stink at something are you i think if they stunk at something they would they would not pursue it because everyone wants to like excel there's a lot of people my kids operate no i'm talking about yeah no they might they your kids might but that's not how my kids operate. No, I'm talking about. They might. Your kids might. But that's not how most kids do things. Like they're like some kids are like got no quit attitudes like me.

Right. They're going to keep trying and trying and trying. I would redirect. You would. I would probably like, hey. Which is a great way to say it. Have you thought about this? Yeah.

That's a great way to say. Redirect. Telling them no. Yeah. Yeah. Like maybe not like tell them like stifle them, but kind of like, hey, have you thought about this? I think I've I think you would really excel in this because this is what I've observed.

And then go from there, like lead. I'm just always going to leave lead with gentleness and kindness. It's just who I am. Right. And so and that's who like that's how I like that's just who I am, right? And so, and that's who, like, that's how I, I like handle. That's your nature. Yeah, it really is.

And so instead of just kind of like, you stink, let's try something new. It's like, hey, have you thought about this? This is what I've observed. And I think you will really be good at this. Yeah.

And then kind of go from there. Yeah. And when I say that you stop them and you don't let them do it, I think, again, don't destroy somebody's spirit and their soul through the process. I mean, you always have to be honest. But you can be honest without being destructive. And remember, we have the ability to make our children believe that they're capable of anything.

If they are not good at it, then you shouldn't be dishonest with them, but they can do anything they put their mind to if that's their gift and their talent. If it's not, then that's not, you're helping them, it's like Sarah said, helping them to fit a mold when they're, so let them sing, Their mic is turned off.

No good. Because they're missing out on what really God's called them to be. And they would be excelling in that and be far happier. Yes, absolutely. But you gotta just, I think that, again,

don't destroy their spirit. And I think there's such a thing as being too gentle, but at the same time, honesty sometimes is hard to do. Yeah. Because the odds are you're going to hurt them. But to the degree that they're hurt is a whole different thing because it is what it is. All right. that's it. I'm done. Girls?

Yeah. You done? Sure. Do it. I destroyed your spirit. I'm totally destroyed, but I'm like, you know what? I'm going to live vicariously

through Allison and it'll be okay. And I'll sing in the shower and nobody will know how beautiful my voice is. Sing to Jer. I do. Jer and I will sing. Okay my voice is. Sing to Jer. I do. Jer and I will sing.

Okay, we're going to karaoke night. There you go. See, karaoke is meant for just for people like you. I'm going to go really late when everybody's already like a little tipsy. And then they won't know. And they're all going to be my biggest cheerleaders. Listen, I hate when I go to karaoke and you hear somebody can actually sing. I do.

I'm like, I didn't come to karaoke to hear you perform and you be Celine Dion at that moment. I came to hear a Tracy where you're having fun, you're laughing, you're joking around, and you're just living life to its fullest.

Sign me up. Sign me up. When you guys are all shocked. So I guess, I guess when we plan a karaoke night, we'll tell everybody and we can go and laugh at Tracy. Absolutely. I'm here for it. Joy of the Lord. Have a great day. It's happy hump day. Happy Wednesday. Happy June teeth. Oh my gosh. I knew it was coming. I was, I debated it was coming. I debated whether or not to talk about that.

There it is. Can of worms opening it. Or are we saying goodbye? We're going to say goodbye. Because I was thinking of something and I'm like No strikes on YouTube. No strikes on YouTube. It's just, you know.

Cut it. I don No strikes on YouTube. It's just, you know. Cut it. I don't know. Okay. Whatevs. Yeah. Happy Juneteenth. This is a month full of lovely little presents. Presents.

Unexpected. Yeah. In the middle of the week. That's right. Have a great Wednesday. Have a great Wednesday. Have a great night. If you are a youth, we'll see you tonight

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