The Hope Hotline - Loved One Looking Down | Killing with Fasting

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

Loved One Looking Down | Killing with Fasting

real talk real talk hello and welcome to the Hoppot line thank you for joining us today we so appreciate you being here I don't really know what else to say about that but that's what I have to say.

This is our last Friday until... Yes. The Friday after that. We'll be here Wednesday, but we're going to be busy next week. Because there's always another Friday. There's always another Friday. The 29th, we'll be back. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, is there anything going on in the 29th? There's nothing, right? I don't know if we checked it with Natalie. So I've got to see what day she wants to do, because that might be good to bring her back. And I just saw her little thing. And I was like, oh, yeah. We need a new date. We got through the summer, but now we're heading into the next one.

Yep. I cannot believe August is almost over. I cannot believe this conference is next week. We're halfway through August. And it's going to, and it will be over in a second because once the conference is over, it's the last week. And that's going to go by so fast. It is. And then it's holiday season.

And then it's literally going to be September. Then it's literally Christmas. And then it's Christmas. I think I'm going to start decorating at the beginning of November. Praise the Lord. I am. I think. Wow.

I'm excited about that for you. Well, the Thanksgiving is on the 27th this year. I've been doing all of my, I've been getting ready for Christmas, so I've been having to, you know, do the things. And if you decorate after Thanksgiving, you don't even have like a full month. What's the point? I know. It does seem like it. I know.

Exactly. So I think I'm going to just skip the fall and go straight into Christmas. Praise the Lord. Wow. I've gone to the dark side. That's pretty dark. Tom told me he wants to do, I know. Tom told me he wants to like really enjoy Christmas this year.

Because once Thanksgiving comes and then you've got, you've got Christmas coming up and you'll have more time in October to kind of really get after it. The problem is is we do a real tree. So I have to wait Thanksgiving weekend because that's when we go. We go Thanksgiving weekend. I have to wait for Saturday. Friday or Saturday to get the tree. So I won't even have my tree up, but my house will be decorated. Hear me out. What? Hear you out with what? Hear me out. Okay. Fake Christmas tree until. I'm not doing it. Wait. You didn't hear me out. I can't. You didn't hear me out.

I can't hear you on this. Until you get the real one and then the fake one can be put in your room and you can have the ambiance of a beautiful Christmas tree. We have multiple Christmas trees in our house, a real and a fake one. I have no place. place in my bedroom to put that sucker. How about outside? How about? I don't want to. I don't want to barely decorate the one tree, let alone. I know. Decorating the tree is like a simple. Yeah, it'd have to be a simple. Yeah, it'd have to be a simple one. Like, it'd have to be one that's just like lights and some like a few little. I don't want to spend the money on a tree. I already got to spend money on a tree that I burn. I know. That's ginormous. I know. And like they've gone up in price. Like there's no tomorrow.

And I can't remember why they told us that they went up in price. The gas? Back in the day when the gas snapped. The tariffs snap. Oh, my gosh. Coming in from Canada. They're not coming from out of the country. They're just coming down from North Carolina and Georgia.

I know, right. I can't remember why there was asked because it's either fires or floods or something destroyed some of the crops. of the trees. That makes sense. Yeah. So all the prices went up. And Tom likes a big tree.

I know. Like it has to pretty much touch the ceiling. And our ceilings are like 14 feet high, something like that in the living room. So the boy don't play. True. That is true. It is a very big tree. Yeah.

Yeah, it's kind of a little bit of everything. Lower supply trees take seven and 12 years longer. So the growers who were planting. fewer trees a decade ago due to low prices or economy downturns but also transportation climate with the droughts and the wildfires extreme weather and have damaged crops yeah yeah I remember them saying that like two years ago I'm like what the heck is going on I'm like paying double price fertilizer got more expensive diesel went up a lot so it's just kind of a little bit of everything perfect storm me no like yeah me either I don't like that

And you're spending my money, honey. But it's just part of the process. It is. I don't like that process. That process stinks. So, yeah, I think I'm going to do Christmas early. And I encourage all of you. All you Christmas people, all of you people that actually celebrate Christmas

because I know there's lots of people who do not, which I respect. I'm not just saying that. Like, I respect people that make, like, have a stand and they are, Not hypocritical? Across the board. Right. Like, yeah, I'm big on that. Like, because I try and live my life like that.

Right. So I love it when people are like, no, this is how it is. And then they do it completely. It adds no confusion to your household. No hypocrisy. Yep. It's a beautiful thing. So, yeah.

So those of you who are Christmas people and celebrate Christmas and the holiday, I say we get on it early. Otherwise, we're in big trouble. Is September too early? Oh, my. my gosh. What is that? It's September too early? Absolutely not. I've already been listening to Christmas music. I literally have been listening to Christmas music for the past 30 days, maybe more. And I don't want to listen to it anymore right now. See, I know. I can't do it too

early. I had to. I know you did. No, I know. I know. I think that's why I get burned out for Christmas by the time it comes around because I'm like, I've listened to so much Christmas music. I know. And I've thought a lot about Christmas. You have. But this year is going to be different. Amen. I'm going to decorate. Amen.

It's going to look bad. No, it's not. Tom's the decorator, that's for sure. In Christmas, Christmas decorations. He's good. That's what I've heard. It's the hallmark. It's the hallmark in him coming out.

He has enough. Yeah, he's seen enough of it that he knows what he likes. That's right. Makes sense. I'm going to have to wait until after my birthday. I can't do it before. There's no way. Oh, yeah.

November 1st, I can't. I'm sorry. You know what, it might be a problem because I think we are going to do our road trip. So I'm going to have to figure that out. Okay. Because if we do our road trip, how is that going to work around? Well, yeah, we're definitely going to figure that out. You got that on the calendar.

Let's get a calendar. Yeah, I've already got the vehicle, I think. You did? I haven't booked it, but I've selected it. Okay. Yeah. Did Tracy tell you what our idea was? No.

to film it as if it was like a reality show and like I like I pull you into a room and be like okay hope tell me what's going on like what was today what happened today and then I talk about the drama and other people and it will cut to me like rolling my eyes crying her driving but not really because we're not letting her drive but pretending like she's driving we got to show her one she needs to like she's not going to think it's funny but yeah yeah we'll show it to you i think it's hilarious so i'm talking about about Vanessa behind her back is that what we're doing but she's watching it with me oh i like that i know if i can like it'll be nice to be able to talk about people yeah yeah yeah without repercussions yeah there's gonna be confessions like i'll be acting

yeah right this is the whole thing is it's kind of like 100% act you know how a joke always has truth behind it. Take it easy, okay? Take it easy. No, like we're going to pretend she's driving and you're going to make fun of her driving, but she never really drove. Oh, I can't really, like, talk bad about her? Well, but you can add a little bit of truth to it. Yeah.

Like while you're talking about it. And then you'll see one solitaire tear just fall. We're going to make eye drops. We're going to make a whole thing. It's going to be the funniest thing. You might not think it's funny. But everybody that thinks this humor is funny will think it's funny. Is it like airplane humor, the airplane movie movie humor?

I don't know what airplane humor, the movie airplane is like. You know, it's, that is more silly. Oh, yeah, no. Silly, stupid. This is drama. Have you ever seen, like, the real housewives of anything of New York, New Jersey? No. Okay.

Then you all understand. No, I don't. This isn't for you. This is for everybody else. You're not our ideal client this time. But you will be a part of it and it will be funny. Okay. Yeah.

All right. Okay. Just tell me what I'm going to do. I will. I'll do it. I know you will. I just remember, Vanessa, can you send me a text that I have to look for something that your husband told me to do because I had to right after I got done texting with

him I had to go and deal with something for Tom so I literally totally forgot to go and look at the thing just text me Jeff's name okay I'll know from there that right now thank you so much because I'm talking to you and I went oh my gosh but at least you remembered oh he texted you this morning now he texted me this afternoon like oh yeah yes yes I know what it is I know what it's about wow I feel left out but it's fine it's Tom's retirement oh wait no it's something else then never mind oh now I never feel left out what are you talking about yeah what are you talking about nothing what is this you speak up yeah I'll tell you after this is for the patrons you know that Patreon episodes. Okay. The podcast that I listen to, like they have their weekly

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Where it's only for the select few. Oh, so you're not telling me that wasn't. No, I'm not telling you online. No, you don't get to know right now. Including myself. I thought this was like, which I thought you were about to tell me that his suggestion was that we do something online. I was about to say, nobody will lose money on that.

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So, hey, look at that. 317. Hi. What do you mean 317? It's 317 and we could technically start a question right now if we wanted to. Oh, the time is 317. Yeah. Oh my gosh, 45 minutes?

42 minutes and 7 seconds. That's crazy. Or we could talk about Hurricane Aaron. One minute. Great job. Great job. Oh, it's going like this. Great job.

Good job. Thank you. Thank you, Hope. I didn't even know we had a hurricane. It said. coming i hate that thing the the waves that it is producing yeah 75 feet that's insanity i don't even understand that my mind doesn't even wrap around that are there like how is that possible cruises so they're kind they're already canceling them because it's kind of going like bermuda

directions so those are already being and then back out into right the atlantic it's going it's just like looping that's crazy but what i'm sorry so that was a little wild to to to hear that because I feel like, that's man-made. Thank you. That sounds a little bit extreme for my understanding. I mean, we've never seen. And never on, because I, well, I'm not on TikTok, so it doesn't matter. Not today.

Like, seriously, it is man-made. And we're seeing things. Like, I know there's things that are biblical proportions. Right. But the thing is, is the reason why the Bible talked about them is because they also knew that man would be doing this. So it's not that God did it. It's man devastating this world, not God and God knew it.

And he's like, it's not. That's my opinion, but I truly believe it that, you know. No, that makes the most sense. Like, for sure does. The Lord knows the beginning from the end. And he knows how evil people are. Right. Yes.

It started in the garden, guys. Yeah, he had nothing to do with that either. Right. But I believe, like 75 foot waves. I mean, come on. It's ridiculous. Come on. That's never before.

And you're going to tell me it's climate change when they have disproven climate change like left and right. Scientists. There's a difference between a theory and a fact. And climate change is still in the theory process. It's not been proven fact yet. But they talk about it as though that it is. But check, I'm not lying to you. Check it out.

You know, fact check me. You know, if you go and you go to. a neutral site, not one that is biased one way or the other. Don't go to a biased that's conservative or a bias that is liberal. Don't. Just go to one that is neutral and the whole thing. And you'll find out that climate change is still a theory because they've, like over and over and over again, they've had to change the theories because they haven't come to pass. In fact, they've gone the opposite direction of what they've said. So it's crazy. It's nuts. But I just know. that it's like famines and like famines don't just happen a lot of times famines happen because of corrupt

governments like Africa is one of the richest countries as far as resources agriculturally I'm speaking of that country should not be like have the famines and devastation that it does and the losses that it does from people starving to death but that government is so corrupt that they take all the money and they don't release it so that the people can actually have the resources needed to have the food that is needed. They could grow their own crops, but they don't provide what's needed.

It's corruption at the core. It's insanity. People would just check things out. So the Lord knows that people are evil and he knows that they're corrupt and he knows that they're not going to do what is right. So he can say there's going to be famines, not because he's starving people,

but because people are starving people. That's a word. Yep. So it's no different than the whole, like, vaccination thing. Everybody's vaccinating for sicknesses and diseases that really don't do anything. Right. But they cause more harm that the vaccination does. The Lord knew that.

I think about our food and how he says you can eat anything, you know, because he knew they were going to mess with our food. So this is like, this is like for me. I'm like, true. that is exactly why he said that he knew you can eat poison because we are actually eating poison literally if you go to other countries they're not right right like here in the go at all USA in Europe like they even ban like food colories yeah yeah whereas we're like everything it's crazy I just I was just with somebody uh this week yeah and they were saying

how they can eat and they were at in another country and they were saying how they can eat one thing after another that's sugar related yeah and not gain one pound it was at my gym they were talking about this Italy they're eating pasta and bread and olive oil there are people who have gluten intolerances in here that can go to Italy and have bread and pasta make that make that makes sense that's really frustrating that is very frustrating It's because of our flour and even our, like, you think you're baking from scratch. Right. You're not baking from scratch because you're using the very products that have the stuff in them.

Because they actually spray it. I think it's glycicinate. I don't know any of those names, so I would help you if we could. On to our wheat. And that is what causes. Celiac? Celerances and allergies. It's also found in oats, in oats.

In grains, glycephate. Yeah. Sprayed a week or two before harvesting. It's restricted and banned in some countries, but not ours. Not the USA. Where's RFK? Where is he? What's he doing?

Is he busy? He's been very busy because he even just banned the new vaccine trying to come out. I saw that. But, yeah, okay. Well, like, Rome wasn't built in a day. I know, I know. That's why I said, is he busy? Yeah. But it'd be nice if it was built a lot faster than what it is right now.

I mean, it does take time. It does. We only have four years. Yeah, I know. And the thing is, is this, like, administration is moving at the speed of light in comparison to almost every other administration. Yeah, because nobody does squat when they're in there. It felt like the first, like, like, 15 days we were like,

He was signing these. No, if you watch Tom's podcast, though. Yeah. Like, if you watch Tom's podcast, you'll be shocked at how much is actually... Yeah. It's just not making news anymore. The man does not sleep. No, well...

Like our news. Like the fake news. It's insanity. Like, some of this... I'm not hearing it. Some of this FBI stuff, it's not good. It's not good for the other party. Like, it's not going to...

Well, hopefully. Yeah. It will not bode well for them. But what's going to happen is, is the people that should be the, take the fall, might not. But there will be people who do take the fall because they're, you know, there's sacrificial lambs. They're the scapegoat. So. But, you know, every time I hear scapegoat, I think biblically what that meant.

Do you guys know what biblically what scapegoat means? I feel like you've told us before. Tell us again. Like, every time I think about it. Like, we take so many words from the Bible. Yes. And they actually mean biblically what they are. Oh, that's my neighbor.

I'll talk to you in a minute. So what every year, what the, like, what the Israelites would do is to, it was the, it was for the festival of, look it up. I can't remember what the festival it was, but it's the, it was something about redeeming or or sacrifice or but it was for sin so what they would do is they would atonement god bless you oh it was right here it was in that spot it's in that I store all my information right here I love you which this goat represents Christ because he's the atonement for our sins now but they would would take every year they would take a goat they would have two but one that they would take

that was the sacrifice they would take this goat out and they would shove it off of a cliff and they would sacrifice it and that when it went over it was for all the sins of the Israelites so it was the scapegoat wow it was so there will be the scapegoat in this somebody will be sacrificed aren't you glad we don't have to do sacrifices anymore Oh, my gosh. That's a lot of work. It's so much work. I mean, can you imagine, like, I think Tom, well, first of all, Tom can't kill anything.

So all the priests. You would be the one killing all. He would be so miserable. Yeah. He would cry. He would cry. He couldn't do it. They would have to sacrifice him instead of the sacrifice.

He'd be done. It's never going to happen. Oh, my gosh. But the priest, like the Levittical priest were having, like, to kill lots and lots of animals, bulls and rams and dubs and yeah calves and oh my gosh never would have happened I know he would have been crying the whole entire time that's a lot like you have to go to yeah you would have to do pigeons and dubs like she was saying like like it's a lot of work it's a lot of burning mine's me of Frasier never mind I even going to get in oh my gosh

nobody would know it unless you did you guys ever watch Frasier I watched Frasier I did not I did. Do you remember? I never mind. I probably don't remember. There's a song that I always think of when I hear about, when I hear the word burning, and it's from Daphne. And she was talking about how, like, she was dating somebody or she was involved with somebody

and they had this music and they had this song. And the song was addicting. If you heard, she was saying, like, if you hear it, you'll, like, sing it in your head forever. And I, like, and it is true. And she sang it. And I was like, I'm never going to. going to not remember that song now. Oh, my gosh.

And I do. Not that you care. It's like lamb chop. Oh, my gosh. This is the song that does it. Oh, my gosh. What is that? Lamb chop. It was an old, old children's show.

That was in between, probably. Was it the lamb and that lady? Yes. Yeah. Okay. He would sing that song at the very end. This is the song that does in end. It goes on and on my friends.

never heard of it started singing and not knowing what it was and they continue singing and not knowing what that's forever just because no mine's better is no no no no burning burning na na na na na na na na burning burning that's what I hear in my head

Oh Forget about that You're never going to not hear that in your head I can't remember a word that you just said girls Like that's not sticking in my head But na no no no no no burning burning is sticking in my head sticking in my head right now oh my gosh no I don't think so I think no I think that's out I think it already went out no it's not I can promise you it's not all right now it's now it's time 3 30

oh my gosh we've literally just wasted a whole bunch of time super sorry people okay get them what they want oh I don't know if this is what they want but we're gonna hold on one second okay all right sorry i had to read that because i did that person never texts me so i got to make sure it wasn't important can you please can people see down from heaven i hear people say that they have a loved one that has passed that they are looking down at them from heaven i've never seen that in the bible and you're never going to see it in the bible because it's not there it's not the there is nothing in scripture that well there is something in scripture let me just tell you what it is Hebrews 12 1 I was about to say there's nothing in scripture that says that but

that's not true I think people are confused sometimes because of this scripture but it's not referencing people like your loved ones that have died and went to heaven this this scripture is actually referencing like Noah and Moses people like that but it says Hebrews 12 1 I'm going to read from the New Living Translation, which says, Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a crowd, a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, and then it keeps going on. But that's not believers like our family.

That was like Noah, Abraham, Moses, people like that. It's not, and it's not referring that they're watching down on us and they're like protecting us or, you know, because a lot of people will say like their loved one is their guardian angel now. Have you ever heard that? I don't know. Yep. Yeah. You have a guardian angel, we all do, because the word tells us, but it ain't your parent. But it ain't your loved one.

Not a dead person. Yeah, because that guardian angel's been with you since you pretty much existed. Right. Because that's what the word says. So I think that I think people say this, uh, specifically because it brings them peace. Right. It makes them feel like their loved one is still present. Right.

With them. But the truth is, is, excuse me, just burped. The truth is that your loved one probably has better things to do with their time. And they're up there, like, walking the streets of gold, seeing sites that they've never seen before. Talking to Jesus and all the disciples and prophets. I believe also visiting with loved ones that have gone before that they're now getting time with. there are also tasks that we all have up there we are going to worship him but we also are going to have jobs we're also going to have things that we get to do it and experience so like the scripture

says a year a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day and if that scripture is true your loved one when they have been passed for like a year it's probably like a second for them. So a year for us is probably a second for them. If you put that into perspective, by the time you get to heaven, they probably won't even know barely that you've been gone. Or they've been away from you.

Because time is way different in heaven than it is here on earth. So they're not, like a lot of times people think that when the people go to heaven, they're like mourning because they're not with you. That's you. That's your carnal person, right? they're not experiencing the same thing that you are they're not longing to be back down here

they would never want to come back down here in fact uh when people have died and um people have been revived back to life and they did go to heaven they didn't want to come back yeah that's true they weren't excited to come back but they were told you're going back because you have a mission and they like were obedient but most people that i've ever read or heard stories out, they, they were not wanting to come back here. Yeah. So, um, Sarah, she, she, Sarah, my Sarah, our Sarah. Yeah.

She, because, you know, her friends, we are who we are. She said that she's going to put a do not resurrect, like, claim in her will. Yeah. Do not resuscitate. No, no, resurrect. Oh, do not resurrect. Because we're like, even if you die, we're bringing, she's like, please don't. Please don't. Please do not bring me back.

yeah why why why would you want to like we're all you know what I what I think is so flipping funny is we all say when we all get to heaven what a day that will be yeah and then then we're like please don't like make me go like do you do you really mean what you say like people are fighting to stay on this earth yeah like I know why I mean the race is one and the rejoicing is there like you should be experiencing the same kind of thing down here and that's all up to you but most do not true true yeah most do not live in that so they're like they can't wait to get to heaven and then and then somebody tells them they're going and they're like no whoa whoa whoa take it easy yeah it's true i just i don't know for me i'm like i just i don't

believe for a second that our loved ones do see us from heaven, I don't think they have time for that. And I don't think that the time is the same as it exists here on earth. So for me, I mean, why would they? Why would they? It makes no sense to me. But if that's what makes you feel better, you're not hurting anybody. So if you want to believe it, but i will tell you this this is far better than your loved one watching you from heaven or being with you or like like um like what is it like being your guardian angel keeping watch over you or whatever it says psalm 121 8 says the lord keeps watch over you as you come and go both now and forever who better yeah god himself or your loved one i think your loved one does not love you

or will take as good of care of you as he will. So cling to that more than you cling to your loved one still, you know, keeping an eye on you. I don't know. But that's my take. I mean, do you guys, have you ever felt like your loved one was still watching over you? No. Never had that thought. You guys pretty much haven't lost anybody.

But I don't think I've never lost someone that close to me. I lost an uncle once, but. death is not something that I think about ever really interesting not me either interesting I don't think about it a lot do you think about it not apparently more than you guys I think I'm I am intrigued by like people's death stories so really yes what do you mean by that have you seen on TikTok where it says if I pass away please tell people how I went yes in the comments yes don't leave it out yes yes what do you mean by that you're like so there's something called n-e apparently it's like a big thing now

and it's near-death experiences is what it stands for so people like there's podcast about it so i recently listened to this one guy and i think it's so interesting that people that profess that jesus was christ are saved and they didn't really do anything like with their walk like how we like everything's ministry related for us yeah and then they die and they go to heaven and they have this experience with god and their story of like dying is very interesting to me so like this one guy was crushed by his truck um he saw his body lift up wow and he had the thought of like he knew he was going to heaven like he knew he was on his way and then on the way he heard somebody say to him which was one of the EMT people say do you have a wife and kids to

live for like she was talking like don't leave don't leave and he heard it and it sounded familiar but he didn't care and I'm like that's so interesting because it makes sense because eternity is like in us and so here we're like these people are so important to us our family's so important like it's so what you're saying yes and so he like so he did die uh-huh and then they brought him back to life and he came back into his body so he was crushed by a car so the pain that he was experiencing And he's like, no way, I'm out. Like, there was nothing that was going to keep him there. He felt the pain.

He lifted out of his body and he no longer. He saw the person. He's like, oh, this is interesting. Like, but he didn't relate to the person there anymore. And then as he was leaving his body and heading to eternity, the lady was talking to him. And he was still conscious of it. He could still hear her saying something. And so he ended up coming back to his body, felt the pain again and was like, he's like,

I literally can't handle it. And so he died again. He flatlined again. And they ended up getting him back on the way to the hospital. And he was in so much pain in the hospital. Long story short, it was in so much pain. He basically said, like, you have to do something. And they're like, we're just waiting for you to die.

You're not going to survive. What? So he ends up surviving this crazy story. And now he just, all he thinks about is Jesus all the time. He has like a heart towards God. And his daughter got septic, like very, very, very sick, almost died. And everybody was like so. like freaking out about everything and and he was so calm he was like if she dies i i will be so happy

for her because he didn't want to come back and i'm like just to have that mindset on death to like not think about it is one thing but to actually like be at such peace that like when somebody dies you're just like you're like excited for them i it's just i i think that i it is I think, like, I think, like, Andrew Womack has such a great perspective on it. And I think I think because I've listened to him, like, he's such a big proponent of not dying of sickness, illness, and disease like Kenneth Hagan was. Don't die because of that. Die because it's your time to go. God's calling you home, not because of something else.

So for me, I'm big on you're not going to die that way. Right. You'll die God's way. but you ain't dying that way. So that's, I don't like that. So I will fight to the finish for that. But for me, I never like, I have an agreement with that. I think that, like, why be so sad?

Like, this is the ultimate goal. Like, you're winning. And, like, people do freak out about it. Like, I think that if you're not done, and if you haven't done all that God's called you to do, then you should be about staying, you know? And maybe that's why a lot of people don't want to die because they know, like, there's a purpose inside of them

that they haven't felt like they've been touched yet, right? Exactly. That's what I think happens. That's what bothers me about a lot of people is because I know that a lot of people are very complacent. Yeah. And lazy. They're just not diligent.

about the purpose that God has them on earth for. And I think to myself, you know, the word does say that he'll wipe away every tear. And I, again, I agree with Andrew Wamek on this. I think that he'll be wiping away tears, partly from joy, from being overwhelmed by what they'll see, but also I believe there will be people who make it to heaven, not the ones that are going to hell, but people who literally be wiping away tears because all the things that they should have and could have done. And they just were so complacent. And they just came home.

They worked their job like a robot. Literally did not, nobody knew they were saved. Nobody knew they were a believer. And or they lived a lifestyle of manic, you know. They spoke death over themselves. They spoke worry over themselves. They spoke defeat. Or they lived in all those things.

And they realized all that God had for them. and they are like desperate to turn the clock back to be able to fix all of that you can't you only got a you know you're only got a short time on this earth you better make it count you got to make it count and for me it's like that's one of the things about this conference for me i think one of the reasons why it is called fearless is because we do only have a short period of time on this earth what are you doing with it are you allowing your carnality to overtake you so that every day you lose because of some kind of fear that you have allowed to dwell in you or whatever like there's no time for it and there are people's lives

eternally that hang in the balance and you're going to let you get in the way of them going to heaven shame on you shame of shame on you like we got to get beyond this nine nonsense like fear has no place perfect love cast out all fear and he is perfect love so if you have him that should just not exist but um that went off on a whole wild goose chase from people watching down from heaven but i'm not a subscriber to that let's get back to that but not a subscriber of it not because i think it's so bad but i just think like why do you need your family looking over you when you got the ultimate. I know.

You got the big G, and that's way better than them. But I think it just brings peace to people. It does, yeah. I think a lot of people lose people before it's time anyways, and so they probably feel like no closure. I know a lot of people that have, I know I'm thinking of a specific person right now that lost a very close family member,

and it's been years now, and they still struggle. So, and it's like, it breaks my heart because I'm like he would never want you in this place. And it's just, it's so the enemy really can just get people there. Yeah, but again, that's super carnal because you're focused on your loss, not their gain. Right. Yeah. And it's all about you. And that's where I think people are stuck.

They're just stuck because everything about them is revolving. around self continuously their world is them yeah you know I don't know how do you break that how do you break your your world being you yes fasting yeah fasting has radically changed me I'm just telling you like if you knew me before who I was you if you knew like if you knew me even in the old building to who I am I like I had a lot of lot of things that God had to get out of my life. I can't even believe in so many ways that he would even have allowed me to be used because I was such a carnal person. But I think, I mean, Vanessa knew me. I mean, it's true. I mean, I wasn't a horrible person, but I am not the person

I am right now. Not even close, I don't think. Thank you, Jesus. That's a compliment, not an insult. Right. I think I just stayed away from you. why because you're scared she's scared she's scared she's scared I'm just going to say over here she's scared yeah I was very like I worked I worked pretty much three jobs right you know your wife I homeschooled I had a regular job and then I was full time at the church and that was even though that was an official job so when you're spread thin and you're like your mind is full all the time and you have a lot of pressure on you how you handle it is is if you're a carnal person it's not christ-like right of course and so um but i know i would even i even would say like

why would you even use me but god knew covid was coming and he knew like there are just some things that and he also you know he also knew that tom and i take strong stands on holiness and doing what's right in the eyes of the Lord. And even though I was majorly imperfect, he knew I'd probably get to where I'm at now. But, like, I didn't have to, but fasting was the key. I mean, I just remember I would fast a whole year on, I'd be the only one.

And I wouldn't obviously say anything. Now I'm more public about it because, and I have been for a very long time, time about fasting, but I'd be so quiet about it because I was such a mess. And now that I've lived it for so long, I'm like, I know that the only reason I'm different today is because of the amount of fasting that I've done. Same. I don't think I would be, I don't know if I would be in ministry if I didn't fast as much as I did because it gave me, like when Tom wanted to quit, I would be like the Holy Spirit was so present and I'd be like no you're not quitting kind of thing

whereas before if I hadn't been doing all of that I probably would then as carnal as him and I'd probably been like yeah let's screw it let's get out you want to go live on the side of a mountain I'm with you let's go I'm tired of doing three jobs yeah yeah you know all that other stuff it's a lot it's a lot of work it is it is but God is worth it should we add fasting to the four essentials I know we need a fifth essential essential fasting yeah that would be good i mean tom preaches on it i think what happens though with fasting is people lose sight like the four essentials are so good because it's really like you're not moving god by doing all of those things and you know you're not moving god by doing all those things you know you're moving you

through all of those things but fasting people get very confused about fasting because they ultimately think, I'm going to sacrifice so that you do this for me. Yeah. Whereas the others, you're not, you know, like reading your Bible is no sacrifice to God. It's not going to move him. Like, you know, the only reason you're reading that sucker is because of you. And it's become either a habit that you don't really value and it's just a habit or it's a habit and you know you can't live without it.

Or you just don't do it. but fasting is way different than all the rest of it i think and a lot of times people are very misguided into it i literally have talked to so many people and i think that there are circumstances and situations where god was moved by people fasting uh you can you can take um esther the people prayed for three days and fasted for three days and because of that god did not relent and he spare the people of Israel. But on the whole, no, fasting does not move God. You're moving you out of the way. You are literally putting to death your carnality and your flesh. And you don't need to do it daily. What is that? And you don't need to do it daily. Well, that's the other thing.

As you do. Correct. Yeah. True. I mean, maybe you do. Maybe you do really bad. You know, I, listen, I did, I did fat. I think, I see, people will say, I don't think, that you should fast social media. I don't think it's all food related and it's complete. I don't subscribe to that because I can tell you that I fasted a year and I fasted specific things

throughout that whole year that were very, very hard for me. But I did them and it wasn't social media it was actually food and stuff like that but like sugar, no sugar for a year. But I did eat. But I can tell you like I had to diet myself with no sugar.

That's a tough one. So I think that people who say that unless you fast only food and you fast no food, I don't, I think they're wrong. I mean, I'm proof that you're wrong. I think that me doing it every single day and having to kill my flesh every single day was way more powerful than the five days that I've done before. and I knew it's like a spanking. At some point in life, you're like, I'll take the spanking

because you know it's going to be over real fast versus grounding that can last however many days your parents choose to give it to you. You know, there's a, or your car's being taken away for a month. Okay, that hurts. True. There's different things in different ways. And I don't, like, I'm not a, I'm not the end all on that stuff.

And I do think for some people giving, up food, you're like, all right, that's not a problem for me. Because food ain't a problem for them. You tell them they can't either, they're a reader. You tell them you're not reading anything but the Bible for X amount of days. You're like literally cutting out their heart and stomping on it because they love to read whatever. You tell somebody they can't be on social media that doesn't care about eating. You're killing them. It's like that's going to to make them died in themselves because that's really all they do is live for social media. Again, people will say that's not accurate. Well, I don't really care. I mean, I don't agree

with you. I mean, I think it works. Different things work for different people. Right. And some people fast and then they don't pray, you know, so they're just a hunger strike. They're hunger striking and they're wondering why things aren't working, which it's good, it is good to not eat food. And because, especially when you're super carnal, because like you'll go open the fridge. and you have to literally tell your carnality no. And that is not something that we do in America. Like you don't have to. You can drive to.

I could literally walk from where I'm sitting right now if there was no food in this place and walk right there and there's food at a store. And so it's just, it's so easy to access. When you tell your flesh no, even though it's everywhere, there is something that like does something. But the point of fasting is not just to not intake food. It's to pray and fast. You should be praying, seeking God, listening for his voice.

And so it's not just. It's a time of communion with him. Correct. Right. Because your spirit man is supposed to be bigger than your carnal man. Right. Right. And I do agree with you. Like the Lord has told me like you're going to change your fasting day to your day off. But I was like, but I want to eat on my day off. Because I used to do Wednesdays Fridays. And it's like, no, because you don't spend as much time with me because you're working. Right. And which I do work a lot on my days off. But, but specifically. specifically like I but he knows the Lord knows like I am able to spend way more time in my word and way more time in prayer and focus on him way more on my days off versus so guess what I you do you just even though you do all those things I um I don't know I think and I think people need to be wise with the fasting and I will say this to you to your point because Tracy you're absolutely correct you can you can pretty much get food anywhere you want to you know you know what is a really really speaks sometimes and if you're fasting you need to try it because a lot of times husbands and wives will go on fast together it's because it's easier go on a fast

secretly that your spouse doesn't know about and then have to fix them dinner while you're on your fast oh yeah yeah having served children while fasting yeah yeah serve your family yeah there was oh last year was it last year or the year before i can't remember but right before the women's conference i did a long fast um and jeff set the slow cooker up he did do you remember that yes i did i had to put the slow cooker in the garage because that's all i smelled all day that is hard though i mean i i remember tom i did a i didn't remember it was last year i did a five-dayer And I think it was at the beginning of the year because I did five days, four days, three days, two, and two for that 21 day fast. And I remember him saying to me, he goes, because I get his food for him or I would, and he's like, I feel so bad for you.

And I'm like, don't feel bad for me. That's the point of it. But, like, that's the point of, I'm like, that helps me kill my carnality. Oh, yeah. For sure. So don't feel bad, actually, it's good for me. It's what's healthy. Just recently, and I've been implementing this for maybe about a week and a half.

But the Lord has asked me to give him 10% on my day. Oh, interesting. From the time I wake up till lunchtime, I am fasting. I am not taking in any information, whether it's like news or social media. I'm literally just in my word, in prayer, and in communion for the first half, like the first like 10% of my day. And it literally, it sets your day up for success. I'm not in my flesh.

I'm more, I'm operating more in the spirit than I would. Because a lot of times I'll operate under my own understanding. Yeah. And that has literally helped to kind of like cut that. And so, yeah. For you, it's different. Like the Lord has been very specific on how you were to fast and how you were to do things. And for me, he's like, I want 10% of your day.

Yeah. And you know what? Some people would have said if the Lord said, I want 10% of your day. Yeah. There will be some that go, you get it while I'm sleeping. I'll pray in my sleep. Yeah, they do. I mean, I'm joking, but there's lots of people who will fit.

That's how they walk. That's how they do their walk with the Lord. Only where it's convenient do I do. True. you know what's cool I was just talking to somebody recently where they're in ministry right now and they weren't a little while ago they had like a break between ministries and um they were like I was when I had my break and I wasn't like serving God I was like in communion with him like you're saying on my days off I was like I just soaked in him I could pick a Bible verse and just like spend all day meditating on it then I went back in a ministry and I got so busy doing the nitty gritty excuse me the nitty gritty of it that like I didn't realize I wasn't in like communion with him like I was in between ministries and so and now they're back in a place where they're in a season they can't do it again and it reminds me of like this season where she's in some people have little babies like you can't like how do you do that like you can try your best

but but don't like this is where Vanessa's at right now and hopes that right now you're going to get to a season where you'll be able to do that as well but take what you have and spend your time with God and speak over your kids if you are if you have little kids right now invite them in Read the Bible with them. Do the things that you can do. Because every season is going to look so different for everybody. But you can pray. Like you can literally be praying in your prayer language, like while you're doing your children.

And you can literally have an earbud in your ear and be listening to the word. Like people go to work and they're doing the same thing. Yours is your children, but they have to work. So while they're working, they're listening. to teachings or they're listening to the word and having to deal with it. Like, I literally would be working and I would be praying in my prayer language while I'm typing or dealing with stuff. I mean, it's possible.

It is possible. It's like, what do you want to focus on? What is your focus on? Correct. And that changes everything. It does. It really does. It really does.

But, yeah, I mean, I think fasting is very important. I do too. it's vitally important and the manner in which you do it and how seriously you take it because I think like you're right people do it as a hunger strike or they do it like oh great I'm going to lose weight yeah and then you never do you lose that five pounds and then the point is not to lose weight right right or if you're like a type a person and it's just an item on a list right it's just a checklist that you get to like check off yep you have to also like examine your heart Why are you doing the things that you're doing as well?

Very true. Yeah, and be honest about it. Not delusional. Right. Please don't. It's not a lot of people. Are delulu. They just are.

They just don't live in the realm of reality. But I see this more and more and more. I don't know. Like, they literally tell themselves one thing, and the reality of the situation is completely opposite of it. It's like, it's not good. That's why you got to keep good people around. You got to keep those people that I'll be like, are you delusional? Are you delusional?

Yeah. I'm serious, because sometimes you have to have a friend that'll just say the hard thing. You have to. Yeah, but here's the thing. Like, I was talking to somebody today, and I was saying to them, like, I'm, I'm, I'm like right now, I feel like I'm around a lot of delusional people. Do you want me talk to them? Does that include us?

I know. Is that wait? Do you have to talk to me later? No. You can tell me I'm delusional. I feel like I'm around. And I, you know, I, it's so funny because like I keep going back to the conference. But I feel like, I mean, God is spot on with, with the theme of this conference.

and for me I'm like so many people are dealing with the same stuff and like and they'll and they know all the right things to say and they tell you that they know that they have this problem or they know that they need to do this change and then they do absolutely nothing yeah and my thing is is this and it I feel like I'm surrounded by it a little bit to a certain extent and I'm like I don't want to hear anymore because I'd rather I'd rather not I'd rather work with the person that is ignorant to their own demise and ignorant to the fact that they have things that they need to change because at least they don't know and they're not changing versus the one that knows they need to change says they're going to change and they still don't and I can't

can't take it. Like, after a while, you just get to the place where you're just like, I mean, Tara was kind of saying, she's like, don't talk to me about it anymore. She literally says to people, which is funny as crap to me. Because I don't. Well, I do. That's not true. I do. I do this. Okay. So let me rephrase it. I don't know if I do it as fast as she does. But that's the New York in her. But I do. I mean, I've said it to a lot of people. So I, I, that's, let me retract it because I have said it. But, but she's just like, don't, we're not talking about this anymore. Find somebody else who wants to hear it because you're, you're not changing and I have no more words and I have no more advice. And if you're not willing

to listen to it and you're not willing to do it, because it's biblical, I don't have it in me anymore. Like, and I, and I'm like, because you do get to that place. I struggle with the people who say, no, I am doing the things and I'm still, I'm still like dealing with the same thing. And I'm just like, well, the evidence of you doing the thing is not there. Because the thing actually works every time. Right. It's biblical. It's a covenant. And a covenant is a contract. And God says, if you do these things, I will do these things. Yeah. It's very true. So you need a friend like Tara that'll just say, nope, or the evidence isn't there. It doesn't matter how you say it, but you do need to have. I have plenty of people in my life that, see, the thing with me is I used to be very, like, I would just say whatever. I would just say what it is. I didn't care if it hurt your feelings. And then God's like, that's not nice. Time to be an encourager. And then so I was a major encourager. And then very recently there's a season where God's like, you need to start correcting people. You you can't just encourage or just say, okay, like you can't, you have to, you're going to have to

use correction. And I have. And it, at first, it's really uncomfortable. But then when you see people like change, the ones that are going to get offended anyways, are going to get offended anyways, no matter how encouraging you are to them. Eventually, you're going to do something wrong. Even if you don't do anything wrong, they're going to eventually get mad at you because they, I don't know, whatever it is. But then when you correct people and they actually do the correction, like, you just want to like hug them like a baby and be like yes because you see freedom well yeah i was just about to say well be they're being set free correct like what greater joy is that than somebody being set free yeah because it's not my brain like literally the holy spirits like tell them to do this

and i'm like do this and then they of course it's going to work because it was from god yeah it's not me i don't know what i'm doing i'm like i've never dealt with this but god said in his word this and so it's going to work every time it's going to work every single time but there's so many people like oh i know there are so many people i know that like you just sit there and go how can you make that up i mean heather was just telling me something before i walked in here and i'm like about about somebody literally is lying through their teeth is in a very bad way but lying through their teeth a the circumstances and I'm like how do you think you solve that problem because not being honest about it is not going to it's not going to help anything correct and then departing from

a bunch of believers who will help support you and hopefully walk you through it that's not going to help you like people are like they're a hot freaking mess I am I just don't I don't know like sometimes you just for me if I don't know like I just don't get it but I do know like for me for right now I do I do know that if people come to this conference next week and they apply what is spoken over them and if they come as a broken vessel yeah ready to be mended and molded back together. Right. They will not leave the same way they came.

But really, yep. It's all about, like there is not going to be some tinkerbell waving her magic wand over your little head and going, whoop, it's all gone. Right. No. Right. Don't work like that.

It's going to require work. It is. Dying to yourself, applying biblical principle. Yep. And saying no to the things that need to said no to and yes to the things that need to be said suggested. That's what it is. And really making God literally the Lord of your life where you're no longer making decisions anymore. He makes the decision. If you want to go to hang out with your friends and you know

they're no good and you ask God and he says no, it's a no. Yeah. It's a no. So he's literally the Lord of your life. If you do that and listen to him and you're obedient, your life's going to look totally different right away. Like you can have a full proof life. Yes. You really could If you do two things. Go ahead. Learn his word, read his word, and obey his voice. You do those two things. You go from victory to victory, mountain top to mountain top.

You got to apply his word. Know it and apply it. But if you hear his voice and you obey, then you're applying. But a lot of times people say that they hear his voice. They say he hears the voice. I'm just telling you. Like if people thought like you do. then yes I agree with you but I've had people tell me that they're living in in out and out sin

and they will literally tell me yeah you can't be delusional that God's told them to do this but that's number one no it's not possible right no it's not number one because she said know his word you could be a knower and not a doer is what the word says yeah okay so you have to know it no and apply it yes right then listen to him yeah know his voice But it has to be biblical, a biblically, the biblical word. I mean, there's so many caveats to how people feel like they can maneuver. Yeah, it's like, it's manipulation. But you know, like you know that you know when life sucks that you're doing something wrong.

You do, you know it. You know that you're not putting the work in. You know, okay, fine, you know the Bible verses. Okay, so I know all the Bible verses what's wrong. Like, why is it not working? People always have a lot of butt and what if, though. Right. But then that's your life.

Your life will be a but and a what if forever. Yeah. But they'll never believe that it's not God coming through. I mean, they'll never believe. It's always, it's always like what she said. I'm doing all the things. But you're not doing all the things. You're not.

Because if you were, there's a first step. The fruit would be there, like she said. There would be evidence of it. Always. that you were doing all the things. Yeah, I know. You're absolutely right. Knowing God's word and applying it and truly hearing his voice.

And then obeying. With the word. Yeah. Would also correspond and then be in agreement with the word. Right. Exactly. And don't delay in your obedience. Yeah.

Like when he says move, you move. Or says don't do that. Then you don't do it. Because that's what happens. People do it. Because the man is going to come. Mm-hmm. That's exactly what I was thinking.

You know what I mean? He's going to, he's going to, the, the weapon will be formed, okay? Yeah. Yep. And the word says it will not, it will not prosper, right? That's if you apply his word. Yeah, there are no loopholes in this. No.

And that's what everybody is looking for is a loophole. How do I not have to exactly do this, but still get the same results? Right. Or how close can I get to the line? what's is that really sin i don't why are you asking that that just shows the heart right that you don't really want to do and abide in what the word of god says true you still have evil in there and compromise right right which evil and compromise compromise will directly like have an end result of going and falling right back into what you knew before right you got you got to be plugged

into the vine jumped into jesus plugged into the word because without him it says you can do nothing and nothing in the greek means nothing don't do that so true oh okay so come to the conference we won't yell at you there oh yeah i will be just kidding hope it's going to yell you the whole time i will yell at you no i'm not yeller i'm just a teacher yeah a dollus will yell at you yeah but then laugh and then yell yeah and then pray over you yeah it'll be fun yes it will be fun but it is if people come and they're fully ready like you said like you're like i am sick and tired of being sick and tired yeah if you come at that place broken

true literally and you just take it all in take it and apply it when you get home you will be a different person a year from now you won't recognize yourself 100% you won't recognize yourself if you are coming to this conference our theme is fearless right if you're coming to the conference wanting to be a fearless woman and you apply the principles that we will teach on this week or next week you won't look like yourself a year from now you won't and that's a guarantee i'll give you a hundred bucks if you're not if you if you if you if you apply what was being that was taught started tick to every day oh my god and there is zero fruit i will give you a hundred bucks I will too, but you have to start a TikTok and show and prove every day that you did

before she's putting a caveat because you know how many people you guys could end up putting out a hundred bucks to? I will. I'll go broke. Okay. No, you got to, like that's why you have to have the TikTok. I know. Because a lot of people will say a lot of things and it won't be real.

Start a TikTok. Yeah. Every day you have to show that you prayed, read to Bible, fellowshiped, and worship. Worship. Do it every single day. Yeah. And you'll grow TikTok. You'll probably make more money than 200 bucks.

Oh, yeah. You have sponsors and brands out of the wazoo? No, anyway. Take my challenge. Do it. Please do. Please do. That would help me on a lot. But you have to come to.

You have to come to the conference. And then you have to come back next year. Those are the three things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come to conference. Beautiful. Do a TikTok and come back. That's a beautiful thing.

That's a beautiful thing. Love it. If you haven't registered, make sure you do. Yeah. I don't even know if there's any seats left for breakfast. I don't know either. I know. The last I heard, there were.

but that was a couple days ago how many were there that you last heard like oh in the 260s I think no no how many were left oh I don't know I think that's a total of 288 yeah if there is so there's probably only like 20 left yeah 13 remaining oh my gosh on my site huh if you want if you want to you want to get in register this is for the conference but you'll see a breakfast one too It has, it says fearless breakfast, but this is the foundation church at them. And the food is good. Click of it. And the food.

It's not, it's not like, free dollars. But you know it's so funny. It's so many people you do the, well, that was, well, it's usually always full. But it's so funny because people, there's a lot of people who don't want to do that. They don't want to eat. They, like, truckloads come in afterwards. I think they don't want to get up early. Oh, maybe.

I mean, it's not that early, guys. You should be getting up. It's 8.30. It's 8.30. You should be up before the sun. Okay? 8.30. It's early for them.

What? No, it's not. A lot of people, listen, there's a lot of people. 830 is early for them. No. Because you've got to get up. You got to get dressed. You got to get your makeup on.

True. You have to drive to the church. I know. I do it. And you have to be there every week. I'm just saying to you a lot of people. There's also a gift you'll get. It's breakfast.

Oh, yeah. Well, here's the thing. I can tell you what the two biggest gifts are for, Saturday. The last day. I didn't get my time in eternity watches because they didn't have the color that I wanted

and I'm not doing other colors. I'm not. They've not had white. I wanted to do white. It's not going to happen. So we're doing a Gucci purse and a Louis Vuitton. Nice.

So. Can we enter the raffle? Yeah, absolutely. Please. 100%. So those are. are the biggies. I mean, there's other prizes that day too, but the two

Kahuna-Hunas are the Gucci and the Louie. I don't have a designer a designer bag. Oh, this is a perfect opportunity. This is Lord. Lord. Come on. Come on, Lord.

Come on, Lord. My personal favorite out of the two of them is the Gucci. Well, you're a Gucci girl. Well, not really. No? No, I'm a Thendi girl. Oh, Prada. You're Prada.

No, I'm a Thundi girl. Fendi. I don't have a Fendi. But you like them. But I do like them. That's my favorite. But I appreciate my Gucci because somebody blessed me with that. So it's not like I had to spend any money on it. That was a huge blessing and the sweetest thing on the face of the earth to even think of me to do something like that. Come on, please. That is beyond sweet. But I'm not a Louis girl, right. I'm not. I don't like the Browns. I don't like the. I don't like the.

colors. They did have when we were shopping, they did have some really cute other stuff, but the one we like is older, mature women, all the way to younger women will like this. That's what we tried to do. We tried to make sure that whoever won it, won the gifts, would enjoy it. Well, there'd be a sneak peek at the purses before they're given away. No. No. no sneak peeks is somebody asking that i am oh no sneak no sneak peek can we make sure they open it and show it i mean i'll show you guys yeah okay i'll show you them but also like but nobody else but we need to make sure they like take it out and show it because sometimes they're just like thank you and they i'm like oh they're going to have to open it up in front okay thank you yeah please

especially for a videographer but but i mean i want to see it too like my eyeballs to see it who's the MC. Teresa. Okay. We'll talk to her. Let's talk to her. Yeah. Teresa will do it.

She's great. She'll stop them dead under their track. Yeah. She won't let them move. Okay. Good. Perfect. And she has the height too.

Yeah. She'll scare the crap out of them. She's like Tracy. I know. She'll scare you. Listen. Both of your gentle giants though. Yeah.

But I would never mess around. Well, I probably would. I probably would. But most normal people would never mess around with either of you. I'm just stupid enough. to think that I might win knowing that I probably won't but I'm hoping

all the while somebody steps in between us and saves my butt because that's the only way I lived through most of my altercations except with girls not with girls with guys

yeah the the altercation I was always praying please God please God please let somebody show up after I hit this person please let somebody be there to help break it up they always did

Me and Hope would have been best friends. Nope. I would have been watching the whole time. I would have bailed you out. And then I would have had to, yeah. Then I would have had to sneak in. Yeah, well. And then like Hope, okay, that was enough.

Thank you. Thank you for the entertainment. I would have been at the prayer meeting. Oh my gosh. Yeah, there was definitely no prayer meeting. None. Even when, I mean, lots of my stuff happened in junior high. I don't think I fought anybody.

I mean, I almost got in fights in elementary school. but most all my fights were junior high i got ahead two in junior high with two boys and then um yeah not good um broke one guy's jaw and hit somebody in their steel plate in their chest yeah i didn't well i didn't know he had a steel plate and i did do it no i never got in trouble that's gin exers don't tattle and we don't like right right oh never yeah no we don't do that we don't do that we're like okay we'll see you at marshal park at 2 30 they're fighting and they're fighting If I got hit, that's the way it went. I went home, and my parents would be like, what happened?

And you tell them what happened. They're like, don't do that again. Oh, well, yeah. Learn your lesson. Learn your lesson. Yes, I did. I'll never do that again. Until.

Yeah. We didn't, like, get suspended because nobody was, it wasn't like that. Like, people were a whole different breed back then. We didn't need safe spaces. My parents, literally, if you would have told somebody, you need to, to save space, they would have locked you in the closet and said, you're coming out when you don't need a safe space anymore. Bring back that. Yes. Whatever that is. And it would have been a very dark closet. It would have been. Come on. Give me a break. My gosh. It's just ridiculous. But

yeah, no, we didn't, we didn't do any of that. I mean, I, like, back in the day, people, like, tried to mess with me. I mean, I literally had people follow me home to try and beat me up. Okay. I went back to school the next day. And had to face my fears. Like, that's life. And I know that bullying is off the charts nowadays. It is not like it was back then. So please don't think that I am comparing the bullying of my error to then.

But because it's gone, it's all the time. It's way different. And you never can get away from it. No, because of social media. It's social media is, I mean, it's just like we live in such an evil, corrupt. back in my day people were just mean there is a difference between mean and evil true and we're living in evil today but um so please like don't think that i'm comparing because i'm not but i'm just saying back in my day like you if you were bullied by somebody um eventually somebody bigger and badder

was going to beat that bully up or i mean you just had to face your fears and you and you went but nobody was jumping you like they were like chirping in your ear as you're walking home and they were trying to get you to fight them okay but you could keep walking and they weren't going to jump you now today they're jumping you and their friends are jumping you it's totally different huh yeah like if I fought somebody like I got in fights in Georgetown like you're you're out partying I fought people and my friends watched nobody participated like if I was fighting them it was me by myself. Totally different world.

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