The Hope Hotline - Matthew 11:12?? Can I Be Sarcastic as a Believer?

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E12 | 02-19-2025...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 real talk real talk real talk real talk hello and welcome to the hope hotline. Thank you for tuning in today. We appreciate it. Hope you're having a good Wednesday. Ladies, you're having a good Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Great Wednesday. Yeah. We got Sarah back in the house. I don't even know how Sarah, like what the heck, Sarah, how did we get you today? So I'm just being obedient. And when God says go to the Hope Hotline, I'm going. Spirit led. And he's going to take care of all those other things in Jesus name.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Amen. Amen. High five. High five. High five. I agree. Yeah. So we're going to get, we're going to hop right to it.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Let's do this. Yes. You do your thing and then we'll hop right to it. I'm going to go real fast. All right. So Facebook, hey, welcome back. Glad you're're here i don't know what's going on with facebook but um if you're watching uh let us know first like share do all the fun stuff and then head over to rumble i'm gonna copy the link real quick and send it to you guys so it'll be there
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Starting point is 00:03:21 Definitely, definitely want to invite your friends to this kind of stuff. This is a great way to get them in the door yep and that's it so dare to be is friday night yep and crave is saturday night yes i know rave will have child care dare to be husband it's your husband hire your husband to be a babysitter that's right 100 correct it's a great night for you to get away um yeah let's do the first question are you guys doing good yeah i feel so weird just go straight into it but no you know vanessa's on her way back there's some drama so i'll tell well i'll wait oh i'll spare her i'll let her tell the drama. Always has to do with Jeff. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:04:09 He wore something in the airport or something. It's going to be so good. I'm going to let her tell the story. So please tune back in on Friday. You will not want to miss this story. Hopefully she'll share it. He is always trying to stir something up. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Stir in the pot. Stir in the pot. Stir in that pot. Yep. And I'm not talking about a crock pot. I'm talking about. Oh, no. This pot. I'm sure there was some of that going on too in Mexico. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Not on the way home. But yeah. I'm probably in Mexico. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So tune back in. But yeah. Holy moly.
Starting point is 00:04:40 We're doing good. It's Wednesday. The weather's been beautiful. It's about to get cold. Yeah. That's unfortunate. But during the day will be nice. Yeah, I'm going to have fire in the fireplace. Probably one last little cold snap.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, I plan on burning a lot of tax papers. Oh, that's actually a good idea. I'm not shredding squat. Okay, of course not. Burn it, baby. Burn it. I'm burning for you. The song. I'm burning, I'm burning. You it, baby. Burn it. Burn it. Yeah. I'm burning for you. The song.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I'm burning, I'm burning. You know what I'm talking about? No, I don't. But I love. No, I have no idea. You know what I'm talking about, right? You don't know. That's an oldie, but a goodie.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But your parents had to have listened to that. Sing it again. I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning for you. No. No. I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning for you. No. I'm not ringing any bells. Look that up, Tal. I'm burning for you. I think I'm burning might be it.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's old. It's like a... Oyster cult? Yep. That's it. 1981. That's... I wasn't even a thought yet.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Shut up. I was alive during that. Not by much. I was three. Okay. But your parents would have listened to that. More than likely. It was a Christian song.
Starting point is 00:05:58 My dad listened to the 50s and 60s. Like, I know all of that music because that's all he ever listened to. Stuff from when he was a teenager, he just always listened to that. I graduated in 85. What's going on with the screen? Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Okay. Short? That's my high school era. Yeah. Yeah. So. I entered into high school in 1981. Graduated in 85.
Starting point is 00:06:33 The year you were born, Tracy. 84. Oh, I thought you were 85. 84. Yep. Man. See? That's rough.
Starting point is 00:06:44 My gosh. How old was I? Side note. Negative. You are's rough. My gosh. How old was I? Side note. Negative. You are not even. Negative 20. Your mother wasn't even born. Yeah, she was.
Starting point is 00:06:53 1979 was when she was born. Your mom was born in 79? Yeah. Is she five years older than me? She's 45. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:03 All right. I see. She was just a baby. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, okay. All right. See, she was just a baby. Yeah, she was. Well, this is a side note really quick. But someone at my gym that knows us both. Oh. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:18 She. I don't think she realized it, but she insulted me highly. Oh, my gosh. You don't get insulted. it, but she insulted me highly. Oh my gosh. You don't get insulted. Well, okay, that's true. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:31 If I were to get insulted, I kind of like was like, well, no, I might be hurt by that. If I didn't care. Oh, I think I know where you're going with this.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Yes. Okay. She said it to me twice now oh okay you were definitely insulted as if i didn't hear it the first time oh my god she so this is somebody that tracy and i both know she's a very sweet girl she's very she is um but she proceeded to tell me that she thought i was Jer's mother. I'm like, okay, I would have had to been a teenage mother. Yeah. Like a young teenage mom.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yes. So either Jer looks really young. Or you look really old. Which is not true because he has a gray beard. Which is not true. Gray beard. Or I look so freaking old when I go to the gym. That one's true.
Starting point is 00:08:24 That's true? That I look super old when I go to the gym. That one's true. That's true? That I look super old when I go to the gym? That might be true. I'm just kidding. You do look young. No, she, and then she proceeded to tell me again today. It's because she, she tried to say, it's because his, his Instagram name is Hope Dealer. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And I'm the Hope Hotline. Right. I'm like, God bless. She's blonde, so we're going to chalk it up to that. That's where I was going with that. God bless.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Like, how is it that I could be his mother because we both have a handle? I don't get it. Because we have the same handle. Weird. Listen. But I'm like,
Starting point is 00:09:03 She has a blondie. And sweet as pumpkin pie. But I was like. She has a blondie. And sweet as pumpkin pie. But I was like, God bless. Like, I literally would have had to been like 16 years old when I had him. Yeah. Well. Yeah. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:09:15 He's 40. He's going to be 45 this year. Okay. That makes it worse. I would have been 13 years old. That's what I was going to say. He's 14 years younger than me. And she thinks I could be his mother.
Starting point is 00:09:28 No. Listen. That's pretty bad. Like, that is bad. That's stinking like rock the house bad. Maybe she had kids really young. And she's just thinking. Maybe she had them at 14.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's true. People just literally don't think at all. I think that's more or less. When you're a blondie, sometimes you just say things. You just say words. I don't know. Talia, I think you already do that. But I was going to ignore it the first time.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I did ignore it the first time. Okay. I'm thinking, wow. I'm adding it up in my head. I'm like, okay, he's in his 40s. I'm in my late 50s. Right. That doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's not good. That's not good. But then when she did it again today, I'm like, I heard you the first time. I'll go. I didn't say that to her. But I was like, we don't need to go back to this. I know. God bless you.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Thank God you don't get offended. No, I mean, I literally was like, oh, that's interesting. Super funny, though. It is funny. But whatever. Okay, let's go. Let's do our first question. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's like me trying to convince somebody they were pregnant when they weren't. Oh. That's how bad that is. Oh, yeah, that story is so funny. now that lady was offended that's good she she had reason to be so bad i understand how hope could think like no no you are i know what was i thinking like what were you thinking i was thinking what that girl is yeah exactly that i could be old enough to have jare i was she's just convinced and you were just convinced. Just two blondes.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Two blondies. Yeah, it happens. It happens. It happens to the best of us. I literally was trying to convince that lady. No, no, no. You're really pregnant. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'm just fat. I'm so glad we weren't around during that time. I'm glad we weren't friends then. No, I wish I was. Oh, my gosh. No. Some things I don't get secondhand embarrassment. That, I would have got secondhand embarrassment.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You know what's bad is I wasn't even embarrassed. Exactly. I literally was not embarrassed. I was just like. Yep, let me keep going. Let's hope just keep digging that hole deeper. I would have been like, no, no. Keep digging that hole deeper. She's just kidding. And would have been like, no, no, she's keep digging that hole deeper.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And I was just kidding. And he'd be like, no, I'm not. I would have been like, no, I'm not really kidding. I like, I really think she's pregnant. And I've been like, all right, that's my sign. See you guys. Gotta go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I wish to God I could say I was embarrassed, but I was not. I'm embarrassed for you right now. I should be. I should be. How is it that I'm not? How is embarrassed for you right now. I should be. How is it that I'm not? How is it that you don't get embarrassed by that? How do you not get that feeling? I didn't though. That is the worst feeling.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I don't even know. Oh, I hate that. I'm watching old memories of myself. I don't know. Something's missing. That's right. Something's missing. There's something missing. There's a chip or something. You and our friend have it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 No, sweetie. I don't think so. That's not her problem. She's a sensitive person. If you saw her in the gym and how she is with her clients and stuff, she's way different than I would be. She's very sensitive way different than i would be okay i believe she's
Starting point is 00:12:47 very sensitive like i don't think like she cries at the drop of a hat i'm just saying like i think it's over her head not to be like not to be embarrassed okay me you i have a chip missing there is so therefore i'm not embarrassed i believe that i do i. Mine is like, what's the big deal? I know. I wish. So I don't know. Yeah, that's a blessing. And a curse. I mean, there's a curse attached to it too. I've had lots of hurt feelings.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And I'm like, why? I know. That's true. That's true. I legitimately am like, why are you, like, what are you bothered about? I don't get this. I don't get it. The Northeast Southwest one's pretty
Starting point is 00:13:25 good too what is that oh my god northeast oh yeah the northeast southwest that i that i don't even know if i was embarrassed over i should have been that one that one was humiliating that was very bad yeah no that's not the same way too though so i think that one's just like no that's humiliating tracy because i literally argued with the girl that she was wrong that whichever way you point the map is not is is north south east west like uh like i said whichever i like was dogmatic argumentative and kind of gotten she got nasty i got nasty like you're stupid no you're stupid no you're stupid like no you're stupid like that's how I was like this is crazy how do you not know whichever way you point that
Starting point is 00:14:12 compass on the map that that's not north how do you not know that yikes yeah I was dogmatic about it I'm still more embarrassed about the pregnant woman. Yeah. At least I was in high school for the one. I already had a child. And one on the way, I think. Or already had two children. No. No, I had two children by this time. I should have known better.
Starting point is 00:14:36 You should have known better. But I didn't. But you did not. And that's okay. No, it's really not. But it's going to have to be. That might have scarred that woman for a very long time. But you did not. And that's okay. No, it's really not, but it's going to have to be. That might have scarred that woman for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I wonder if she went home and took a pregnancy test. No, she probably went home and cussed me out. Did she ever follow up? Maybe this was prophetic. No, it wasn't. Oh, okay. I feel less embarrassed when I think that way. No, it wasn't. So can we make that a story?
Starting point is 00:15:01 I saw her for the rest of the year. She gave birth to nothing. Well, then, oh. Trust me on this one. No, it wasn't. So can we make that a story? I saw her for the rest of the year. She gave birth to nothing. Well, then, oh. Trust me on this one. Oh, my gosh. She grew in no way, shape, or form, less or more. That was all her.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh, my gosh. Okay. All right. All right. Well, that's embarrassing. Whatever. It is embarrassing if you got embarrassed. I mean, people literally at the door on Sunday mornings, they're like, I feel sorry for you.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I'm like, don't. I'm not. Don't care. Doesn't bother me at all. Actually, I think it's kind of funny. It is. A lot of times. Half the time you're laughing.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm laughing. Yep. That's true. Half the time. More than half of the time. I just shake my head because I'm like, what's he doing? Like, what is up with this guy? Yep.
Starting point is 00:15:44 It's true. I see it. That's why God put us together because he doing? Yeah. Like what is up with this guy? Yeah. Yep. It's true. I see it. That's why God put us together. Cause he knew. No. Tom was going to have to have somebody who was thick. Yes. 100%.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Tough skin. Then get bothered by much. Otherwise. Hey, listen, if you grew up with my dad, Tom's nothing. My dad,
Starting point is 00:16:02 like my dad did not, nothing ruffled. Like he had his feathers ruffled don't get me wrong he was a very temperamental person but my dad didn't embarrass easy and like he pretty much whatever was in here came out here and he was like whatever yeah whatevs whatever so it's probably why i it. Because I'm like, that apple did not fall far from that tree. My dad just really did not. Yeah. He didn't get embarrassed very easily at all or care about much.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That's an uncommon thing. Yeah. He really is. Well, he's temperamental, though. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But as far as certain things, he's like, I don't care. Awesome. Whatever. Blessing and a curse as certain things, he's like, I don't care. Awesome. Whatever. Blessing and a curse. It's a blessing and a curse. You just have to know how to manage it. That's all. Yep.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Navigate. Yep. I'm not very good at it right now. I'm learning. You are learning. I'm way better. You are. Me and Trice were just talking about this.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I am way better than what I was when she first met me. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say on Sunday morning. Mm-hmm. than what I was when she first met me. That's what I was trying to say on Sunday morning. I was trying to say, as long as every day you look back at you yesterday and you're better than you were yesterday, you're doing something right. You may not be ready.
Starting point is 00:17:16 When I said to the Lord, I want more, because there are specific things that I was saying that he knew when I when I said I want more like they're big right like they're big things I'm not a small dreamer I am a big dreamer and that's where he was that's why he said are you're you already do what I'm you're supposed to be doing and I'm like no I'm not well then you're not getting it I mean that's the way it is but am I better than what I was like last year a lot better and every day we should just be sometimes people think it's an insult I've literally had people be
Starting point is 00:17:52 like I don't mean to like hurt your feelings or um insult you but like you're different like how than you were like five years ago I'm like like, thank you. I know, exactly. You're not insulting me. Like, that's a huge compliment to me. Huge compliment. I'm like, that's not an insult. You can give that to me all day long. Can I have you sit,
Starting point is 00:18:15 can you ride around in my hip pocket and remind me of that? Can you record that and send that to me? Like, that's a huge compliment. That is a huge compliment. Somebody is noticing that you are different than you were. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That's what God's expectation is. But the problem is, is people are so offended that you would dare say that they needed to change in a positive way. Yeah. Spiritually speaking. Or just carnally even, you know? Yeah. I'm like all day long, tell me I am better than I was when you met me.
Starting point is 00:18:46 I'll take it. Because that means I'm going in the right direction. Right. Not staying the same. Amen. There's something to be said for that. Hold on. I'm rolling around on my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Where are you going? Hold on. Okay. Let me sit on this thing. Okay. I literally was rolling all over my court, and then I got stuck. Okay. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:19:08 All right, let's do Matthew 11, 12. We got some good questions. This one's super simple, super easy. Matthew 11, 12 says, and from the days of John the Baptist. Hold on, somebody is texting me. Obviously, they do not watch the podcast. Yeah, tell them. Text them.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Be like, hop on. Hop on Rumble. Oh, my gosh. Matthew 11, 12 says, And from the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. So they said,
Starting point is 00:19:35 Our questions on this verse are the following. Is the kingdom of heaven suffering violence? Is heaven at war with the evil one? Who is the one taking heaven by force? So I'm going to break this down because this was a really good study for me. And I thank you for sending this question in because it was really good. It says, so the kingdom of heaven is referring to God's reign. And so the kingdom of heaven is forcefully entering the world, encountering opposition, and requiring people to actively strive to enter it. That's what we're called to do. We are to activate our faith.
Starting point is 00:20:17 We are not a workspace, but you'll know them by their fruit. So that means there's works going on because your fruit should always be growing and changing, evolving and being better instead of weeds, thorns and thistles. Correct? Yep. Yes. So you should be striving to enter into heaven. And when you strive to enter into heaven, you should be striving to enter into heaven with as many crowns as you possibly can take with you. And if you don't know about that, then you need to study that out, because there will be crowns that we get to throw at the feet of Jesus. And a lot of times people are just like wanting to get in, just barely getting in. That's like, and I've used this analogy before, but my cousin, she was becoming a dental hygienist.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And she strived to get the best grade that she could get. Whereas some of her classmates were like, as long as I pass. And her thought process is, who wants to go to the dental hygienist that just barely got through? Not me. I don't want to go to the doctor that got the C as the average and passed and got his doctorate with a C. No, I want to go to the doctor who got the A++. Well, that's us as Christians.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Like, do we barely want to get in? Or do we want to get in with excellence? Well done, good and faithful servant. That's what we want to hear when we are entering into heaven. Well done, good and faithful servant. And so just a lot of Christians today, it's, I just like, what, how much, how close to the line can I possibly get and still skate in? And that should never be. So that's where that scripture is so pertinent to us. And then the next is with a strong sense
Starting point is 00:22:24 of urgency and determination, much like someone forcing their way in, essentially it's not a passive acceptance, but a dedicated pursuit of God's kingdom. This concept is often linked to the ministry of John the Baptist, who preached a message of repentance and preparation for the coming Messiah. So the word violence, which it refers to, excuse me, and from the days of John the Baptist until now. So John the Baptist is referencing how he went out and he just won the loss. And he didn't, he did it in six months where he literally flipped the script. People, you know, I often say this, like people always want to have a building, have a church with its own building, which is on a main street. So everybody knows where it's at and they can all come.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Well, John the Baptist didn't have that. John the Baptist actually was out in the wilderness and the people traveled to him because his message was so strong, so persuasive, and they wanted what he had to offer. That's what we should be doing ourselves. It doesn't matter where you're at. They should be able to place you in a desert and people want to run to you to hear what you have to say about him. That's what that scripture is basically saying right there. But it says, until now, the kingdom of heaven suffers violence and the violent take it before. So it's not really speaking of physical violence. We as believers, what this verse is saying is that we should be have spiritual intensity and eagerness to enter the kingdom, not literal aggression. So all of us, like, I'll say everybody that I, that everybody
Starting point is 00:24:08 that's here on the peanut gallery, like we're all very aggressive with our walks with God. We're not laid back. We're not sitting back idly by when it comes to our families, when it comes to, and when I say families, I mean our kids. Talia doesn't have any, but her siblings, her family, like we all fast and pray for not only just our immediate family, but our extended family. We're not just about our business. We're about kingdom business for our family, our friends, for this church, for ministry. All of the peanut gallery is in ministry. They do something in this church ministry-wise. Multiple things, actually. And so what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Is that you? Are you aggressive? Are you violent in getting the kingdom out there to people in your own walk? Does that make sense, ladies? Yes, absolutely. Okay. Because this verse is not layered, I wouldn't say, but it's kind of got like hidden, hidden little things to it.
Starting point is 00:25:12 So the context of John the Baptist is Jesus is comparing the arrival of his ministry to the preaching of John the Baptist signifying a time of intense spiritual change, which I just told you in six months he flipped everything. The Pharisees and the Sadducees were it. And he is now pulling people from the it, which was the Jewish faith, which was very religious. And now John the Baptist is saying,
Starting point is 00:25:39 there's coming a guy, there's going to be a prophet, a Messiah, that I'm not even worthy to untie his sandals because this guy is that big of a deal. He's going to do things, walk in power and might and do mighty miracles, show many signs and wonders. And I'm only going to tell you to repent and to baptize you in water.
Starting point is 00:26:03 This guy is going to take you even farther that was very and this is what was so great about it at that time was that's what these people were looking for they were very subjugated by the roman empire and the romans and they wanted freedom they wanted like they they not only wanted spiritual freedom to a certain extent. I don't even know if they wanted spiritual freedom. They wanted just freedom because they were under the thumb of the Romans. And it was a rough life for them. But they put themselves there.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And God told them, if you do these things, if you turn your back on me, then I'm turning my back on you. And these are the things that are going to happen. And they did happen. So they did it to themselves. But ladies, let's add to that. I love this question, first of all. What I love is when I get a verse that I've read or heard in church 10,000 times, and then somebody asks a question.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Like you were saying, it's not really like it is layered, but it's also like there's hidden stuff to research and stuff. So if you hear it, sometimes you don't even think to research it. So thank you, first of all, for the person that sent this in. But I love that. I've always kind of, now that I hear it out loud, the violence part is interesting to me because you do kind of think like my walk with God is kind of violent where as soon as I don't feel like, I feel like there's an attack on me spiritually, like I go right, I don't sit back and be like, oh great, now what? Like why every time I do something good, here comes the enemy coming to get me. You know what I mean? Like my first thing is like, no, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And then it is. It's fasting. It's reading the scriptures. It's finding a new verse to stand on. It's speaking life over that person or whatever it is. Even if I don't fully understand what's going on, it is a violent approach. It's not like defense versus offense kind of thing. Like it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:06 We're always on the defense. Right. We are never on the offense. I know we're to be offensive drivers, right? Right. But we should always be ready to push back. Right. Always.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Know what's coming. Yeah. Pushing it back. Right. And that's something I've really been trying to do too, is like, God, I want to know before it even happens. Like, I want you to give me eyes to see that you trust me with that information and I won't act before I'm supposed to, and I won't get outside of what you want me to do, but I want to know. I want to know before it comes. Yeah. You know? I didn't
Starting point is 00:28:38 even know what that scripture meant until I was like, well, this is interesting because I have no idea what the scripture means. I've read this thing a hundred times. I know. I went right on past it. Right. Because you kind of make up what you think it means in your head. No, I didn't even do that. I mean, just being honest with you.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wish I had done that. Yeah. Because then I might have thought, I never even did that. Okay. I was like, oh, well, whatever. I mean, there's just some things that you just. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I know. You just keep reading and you're like, that doesn't really make any sense, but whatever. I mean, there's just some things that you just. I know. I know. You just keep reading and you're like, oh, that doesn't really make any sense. But whatever. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Sarah, you were looking something up, weren't you? Were you?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. I think it's important to read it, you know, to look in context what Jesus was talking about when he said that. Because the verse right before it, he says, from the days of john the baptist until now oh sorry that is the actual verse but he says there's truly i say to you among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than john the baptist yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he yeah and a lot of people don't understand what that scripture means yeah that's pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Like to me, that's everything. Like John the Baptist was the last great prophet. And then he goes on later and he's comparing, you know, you're saying that John the Baptist is this and he's not that. And look at, and now you're calling me a glutton and, you know, I'm hanging out with all these people. Like you don't, Jesus is like, you don't even know what you're talking about, any of you. Because that's Elijah right in front of your face. That's what was said that would come before I came. And you're so stupid, you don't even see it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 You don't see him for who he is. I know, it's pretty amazing. And how many people that are so-called believers right now think that they know who Jesus is, but they have no idea. And Tracy, you mentioned, you know, like you're asking God to show you things ahead of time. And it said in Psalm 2715, it says the secret of the Lord is with those who fear him. And so if we don't have the fear of the Lord, we're not going to know any of his secrets. So that was the big switch for me in my life was when I stopped just being like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:50 I love Jesus. And then I was, I asked him to show me how much he loved me. And my study went head on deep into the fear of the Lord. And I was like, well, that's not what I asked for, but that's what I needed. So people need to get the fear of the Lord and understand that. And then you have to obey all the commandments that are in the New Testament. Like when Jesus says to do something, it's not like, oh, well, that's okay. Maybe I'll do that. It's like, no, you do that. You should fear not doing it. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Because again, fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You should fear it. And those Because again, fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You should fear it. And those who love me obey my commandments. So if you love him, that's one of the ways you convey that is by the obedience of those commandments. Right. And a lot of times people are like, grace, grace, grace. Well, yeah, grace is there for the forgiveness of sins, but you're still to obey, obey, obey.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Right. And grace is supposed to empower you to make the right decisions. It's not only like reactive. Oh, I messed up, so I need grace. Grace is proactive. Right. Grace is, the Lord is telling me to do this right now,
Starting point is 00:31:58 and I can't by myself. Right. So I tap into grace, and then that empowers me to do what he's calling me to do. Absolutely correct. That is so good right there. That is absolutely correct. It's profound. It's
Starting point is 00:32:13 super profound. The depths and the heights of the word of God, first of all. I can't remember what the verbiage is because it's like, and Skyler teaches this, which I was so shocked that he did, but the word of God, everything we just said, it actually, the word of God, how it works,
Starting point is 00:32:47 and I can't remember the terminology that it's used. Everybody should really go to the essentials class because it teaches you things that I had to learn on my own. And this, somebody is actually teaching you it. But there's a thing in its call and I can't remember the term. It's where the word proves itself, which is what everything you're just talking about
Starting point is 00:33:12 and the layers of it, but the depths and the heights, which are the layers of how deep the word goes, the symbolicness of it, but also like what we just talked about with John the Baptist. And I'm making it too complicated, but there's a thing that the Bible goes,
Starting point is 00:33:32 it goes back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, and it proves itself over and over again from the Old Testament to the New Testament, from the Old Testament to the New Testament. What is the terminology for that? But it's basically what we're talking about right now. And I cannot remember the daggum name. But Jesus is the word. So when we're talking about the scriptures, like that's Jesus. I had
Starting point is 00:33:56 a conversation with somebody today. Maybe they'll be watching. But I said to them, because she was telling me, you know, I'm a Christian. I said, tell me a little bit about your walk. Like, how did you get saved? And she went all the way back to like, you know, she grew up in church. And I was waiting for this, like, transformation. And I started, you know, quoting scripture. And she was like, well, you know, the Bible, I'm just not really sure. And I was like, girl, you might save.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And I didn't say those specific words, but, and I prayed for her and you know, I'll, I'll follow up with her and stuff too. But it's like, people are just so they don't, it's like,
Starting point is 00:34:37 I want to take them by the head and be like, you're missing it. Yeah. You cannot just decide who Jesus is. God literally like he's the creator of heaven and earth, of all that's seen, all that you can't see. Like he could crush you right now in a moment. But if God loves everyone and it's unconditional love,
Starting point is 00:34:59 you don't understand that love. That love is so holy that sin can't even stand in the presence of it exactly so yeah exactly and we have to be proactive just like that grace is proactive in taking the kingdom by force and that's what i think that verse really is like if you will say oh i would you know i would die for for god if they come and try, you know, I would die for God. If they come and try and, you know, I would be martyred and all this. You can't even get up early to pray. So I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:33 How's that possible? Yeah. Like God wakes you up in the middle of the night. There's a reason. You're not, a lot of times when I wake up in the middle of the night, it's just not by chance. Right. So you got to look at all those things spiritually.
Starting point is 00:35:47 But again, it goes back to depths and heights. Like how much do you know? And how much do you believe? And how much do you understand that all of it going back and forth and back and forth is a proof of it being what it is. And then the words that you read actually are what they are. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Because he is the word. Yeah. So everything in there is like actual, factual, concrete evidence of so much, but it's concrete in that, like it's everything you can stand on. Like if it says this, it means this. It's gonna happen or it's not gonna happen
Starting point is 00:36:35 or you should do it or you shouldn't do it. And you should be violent in that. Right. Because you understand, and I guess that's what I'm trying to say. If you understand the word and if you actually study it out and you go deep into it, which is, I guess, what I'm trying to say, how concrete it is, so that you can be stronger in it, and then you can be more violent in taking it by force.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Instead of being willy-nilly about it, which is what a lot of people are. They're very like your friend. Bible, I don't know if it's your friend, but the person you were talking to about the Bible, I don't know about it's your friend, but the person you were talking to about the Bible. I don't know about it. Are you saved? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Because you went and say, you don't know about the Bible. The Bible should be everything. It's what your tentacles are in. And it's like what you hold on to. It's your everything. And if you're like, eh, I don't know about the bottom, then you got nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I don't know how you stay saved. And I don't know if you are. Because for me, it's everything. It's everything that I stand on. Whatever I wonder about or believe or don't believe, it is all based on the word of God. Every single thing, every part of my life, it all goes back to the word.
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Starting point is 00:40:16 it says i knew a christian family that would never allow anyone in their family to be sarcastic that's not my family towards one another but sarcasm to me is an all is almost a love language what do you think about sarcasm as a believer should i can reconsider my love language and be less sarcastic or do you think it's there's a time and a place for it okay i love sarcasm I think everybody on this panel loves sarcasm and are super sarcastic yeah guilty guilty as charged yeah so okay I don't know if it's my love language but I absolutely enjoy doing it I even enjoy receiving it because I think it's flipping funny. Some of the times I've laughed the hardest is when somebody is
Starting point is 00:41:10 giving me a zinger. It's true. So flipping funny. Especially if it's true. The more true it is, the funnier I think it is about myself. That's true. I've seen it. There's just sometimes I'm like, golly, that is so true about me.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Holy crap. That's freaking funny. I mean. I need an example. Like what? About people make it, busting on me? Yeah. Oh, Heather's great at it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Heather will be. Heather's great at pointing. Pastor Tom's really good at it too. Oh, Tom's the best. Just the other day he did it. What did he say about me that was so true? Numbers. I'm terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I do the books for the church. I'm the worst. Oh my gosh. I'm the worst. I'm the worst. So I'll be like, hey, we just got $60,000 in tithe. And I'll be like hey we just got $60,000 and tithe and I'll be like wait a minute now that was $6,000 Tom goes from up here to down here I'm sorry about that but like how he tells right how he makes fun of me with it like he
Starting point is 00:42:21 will remember where I like totally screwed up and totally taking him from a super high high down to the depths of hell with numbers I'm terrible yeah it's it's it should be that like if I tell him something he should be like wait wait right are you sure about that no but he like jumps in with you yeah and he's so excited and then and then he's like i take him to the depths of despair yes yes but he totally makes me sound like a freaking idiot when he's telling it he does and it's and you but it's true tickled and it's the funniest and then hope it's the hope laugh oh my god until you love the hope laugh but it's so true like when he's telling the story i'm
Starting point is 00:43:05 like i did do that and that sounds just like me yeah like that's so true yeah holy crap yeah you're nailing it he's like mocking you oh 100 but it's so funny and it's so good because it's so accurate and he's so sarcastic about it 100 and she thinks it's the funniest thing it's so flipping funny because he's like have you ever met somebody who can nail you? Yes. Some people will never go to those caricatures where they draw you and they pick out your flaws. Because listen, it can hurt. And you're like, wait.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Hold up. Wait a minute. Is that true? Is that how I look? Is that how I look? Is that how I look? Yeah. I don't know about that. I mean, if you can't handle that, don't go to a caricature person because like they're
Starting point is 00:43:54 going to demolish you. Yeah. And they're not going to build you back up. Nope. At all. Nope. That's how it is, though. Like even in my family, like we will sit around in the living room.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Now, there are some things that i would say to you like if you know somebody's super like they can handle a lot like like there's some people who cannot handle sarcasm at all and you know what don't do it to them right don't be sarcastic with them and but if you're gonna dish it out right if you're going to dish it out, if you're going to be sarcastic and you can't handle it coming back, then shut up. Amen. Don't do it. I know lots of people who can dish it out, but when it's handed to them, they cannot take it. And I'm just like, you might want to like evaluate you.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Because you're way too sensitive to be dishing out. Dishing, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. But that's one thing. Tom does it all the time. What is that? He does it to me all the time.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Tom does it all the time. But the great thing is if you've ever been in my house or if you've ever been around us, Tom dishes it out and he's really good at it, but the man can seriously, we, he takes more than what he dishes. Cause like we pile on.
Starting point is 00:45:12 So the fact at the beginning of this, when you said, I wonder if someone in my family sent this in, that was sarcasm in itself. Yeah. That you said that. True. It could have been.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah. Like we seriously are very, there are certain things that I will say. My family is very sarcastic, and we all can dish it out, but we all can take it. Like, we all, plus nobody,
Starting point is 00:45:37 and we're not passive aggressive in our sarcasm. And a lot of people are passive aggressive in sarcasm. And so I'm like, when it crosses that line, it's like you're weak. And you're saying things that you can't say to somebody's face. So this is your way of saying it. Don't do that. Don't do that. That is a way of being confrontational that is so like low life in my in my eyes like it's low yeah um but if you can
Starting point is 00:46:09 but there are some things i will say that even we won't go to because and being sarcastic because you know that that person is a little sensitive about that and if you love them like with us we love each other so there are places that we won't go just because we know that that might really bother that person right um at least i don't do it a lot i i won't there are lines that i just won't cross and i advise you if you're a sarcastic person you know the audience yeah So pay attention to the audience. And don't go places that you shouldn't go. Passive aggressive though. Gross.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Gross, yeah. Thank you. I mean, if you're passive aggressive, you're weak. You're super weak. And what I mean by weak is you don't have the kahunas to say something to somebody's face. Which is what we're really supposed to do. I think you mean cojones, but kahunas is really good too. What's kahunas?
Starting point is 00:47:13 It's like Hawaiian, the big kahuna. Oh, so what is it? Cojones, I think it is. Okay, cojones. And that must be Spanish. I feel Spanish. It is. Balls. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but I thought it was a And that must be Spanish. I feel Spanish. It is. Balls.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but I thought it was. I'm not Spanish. So that's why I failed it. But okay, cojones. Cojones. You don't have that. You need to grow a pair. Whether you're a male or a female.
Starting point is 00:47:41 In this case, be trans. And if you're a man just grab a hold but you know is it a lot of times people are passive-aggressive and i hate that me too i hate hinting and i hate passive-aggressive yeah because you just don't have what it takes oh i hate so annoying huh the worst i hate it if you hint me, it ain't going nowhere. Yeah. It's not going nowhere. I will ignore you with the hints.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I will not participate. Be direct. Might as well. If you want to do something, don't hint to me that you want to do that. Just say, hey, listen, I'm thinking about doing this. Do you want to do it or am i allowed to do it or whatever just freaking ask yeah don't hint because i'm gonna ignore you that's like little kids this is stupid all the time little kids when they come up to you they're like my mom
Starting point is 00:48:37 lets me have those you're like oh i love those yeah okay just ask me if you want one right oh you know what i do to that i'm like oh that's good yeah i'm glad i'm glad you like them yeah i literally never give them like oh yeah cool i like them too that's why i'm meeting them yeah yeah not good sarcasm you guys does does your family do sarcasm a lot yeah very very sarcastic well it might meet like my parents and my brothers and so I grew up um we were very sarcastic but we knew like and you sometimes you have to learn it sometimes you say something you go too far and you have to be willing to apologize you have to be willing to be like you're right that was yeah that was too far that was too far and then don't do it
Starting point is 00:49:20 again like that's that like that is the line but it's so fun when you can just be sarcastic and be silly and and you just you can't take everything. So like life is so serious. So you just don't take it serious all the time. And you have to have people you can just have fun with. And everything doesn't have to be a super deep conversation about like all like every everything. Everything serious. Everything is deep. Like sometimes you just want to be like silly and lighthearted And lighthearted. And so when you can be sarcastic,
Starting point is 00:49:48 I don't know. And the best thing to learn to do is laugh at yourself. Right. When you can laugh at yourself, you will learn to be less offended. Right. And you won't be prideful because you're laughing at yourself. Or embarrassed. Or embarrassed. That's a good first step yeah oh learn to appreciate what other people see as either your flaws or your negatives learn because a lot of times like when people have busted on me with different stuff i'm like
Starting point is 00:50:23 oh i don't like that about me. And they are absolutely right. I'm not changing the numbers thing. Oh, my gosh. I don't care. It's too far. Too far gone. I'm not changing the numbers thing.
Starting point is 00:50:36 That's in like fun. But there are certain things when people like make fun of you about certain things. And then you're like, ooh, I don't like that about me. They are so right. I got to fix that. But laugh at it because it's truth. I mean, but it is pride a lot of times when people get mad
Starting point is 00:50:51 and offended over you making fun of them or them making fun of you. A lot of times it's all pride. That's the reason why you don't like it. Right, because they don't want to be seen that way. But if it's true, then change it. If you don't like it, like you said, change it. Yeah. Or embrace it. Whatever. There's something great about that. Yeah. But what were you two other two girls
Starting point is 00:51:12 going to say? Or do you not have anything to say? Do you like sarcasm, Talia? I do. I do a lot. She better. She's in trouble. She's been, I mean, she's literally been at my house since she was 14 years old. Yeah. She better like it. You've been trained correctly. Well, Tom's torturous with her. Every day it's something with me. I either lose a point or I gain a point in this book.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Oh, my gosh. Constant. Are you positive or negative right now? And then if I'm like oh my foot hurts he's like great talia is dying stay away from her thank you thank you always yeah what about you sarah your family has to be sarcastic i mean we're in an interesting place right now where i'm trying to not be so much. Oh, really? Well, ebbs and flows.
Starting point is 00:52:08 There's ebbs and flows to everything. But I will also say that I learned a long time ago that the Greek, like where sarcasm came from, the root, the Greek is actually, if you study it out, it means the ripping and tearing of flesh. Ooh. And so. I don't like that yeah it's not it doesn't yeah so however we got that word and it's more like if you're doing it mean it's meanly yeah yeah right yeah i'm sure you can balance the books hope yeah you know right yeah
Starting point is 00:52:40 that that is so true because it's all about the way you do it. Absolutely. And again, knowing your audience. Right. Some people just don't like it. They don't. Yeah, don't do it with them. People have used it against them. And they did it just like you were saying, don't do it passively.
Starting point is 00:52:58 And that's all they've known is passive aggressive. And so they don't do well. Or if you used to do it passive aggressive and you're trying to figure out how to be certain, maybe just don't, maybe don't be sarcastic. Until you learn it. Until you can. But like for me, like with people that were, I'm usually sarcastic with, or they're sarcastic with me, they love me.
Starting point is 00:53:17 So like, and I know their heart towards me. I know. I literally never think that they're trying to hurt me. It's always just said in jest and usually with such funny humor and maybe I would miss it because there is a chip missing but on the whole I never I always have like I've always tried and almost everything when I've gotten hurt feelings about different things I always allow myself 30 minutes to regroup, to be mad or whatever. Then if it's somebody that I know very, very well, and they've said something that I think
Starting point is 00:53:54 it was out of line, I almost always try immediately to stop and say, okay, before you go somewhere that you don't need to go with this person. Think about your relationship with them. Would they ever say anything that they would mean to hurt you? Is it possible that this wasn't them trying to be passive-aggressive or them trying to send you a message? Or is it just maybe that they absentmindedly said something and their heart would, if they knew this bothered you, how would they feel or want to respond to it?
Starting point is 00:54:30 Would they be hurt that they hurt you? How's their heart towards you? Look at the heart of the person. And if you really do that and you stop, most of the time you can't get hurt or offended by them because you sit there and go, they genuinely love me. There's no way they would purposely try and do that to me. So I'm not going to be mad.
Starting point is 00:54:48 I'm not going to get, I'm not going to give Satan a foothold. I'm going to just chalk it up to misunderstanding or miscommunication or whatever it is. A lot of times, well, you can leave it if you just stop yourself and look at that heart or that relationship. And no know it's never been met in any with any malice but sarcasm that's interesting though I will tell you that's interesting that it means ripping the flesh just ripping and tearing of flesh yeah and I think it's because I'm thinking about people that use it as like a mask like they don't want to have a true intimate relationship with people so they will everything's always funny and it's covered over with things I mean I've
Starting point is 00:55:33 been there for sure where it's like I got a I got a good one for this yeah yeah and it's not I'm not being authentic to who I am it's a mask so gotcha um yeah I think it's you know if we can learn how to ourselves how to be unoffendable yeah it's true I had to learn that with my kids like try everything that you like but you can't offend me right right I know and there's a piece that comes with that yeah oh man it really is when you aren't wearing your heart on your sleeve there is there is a freedom because i didn't grow i mean i didn't listen i grew up in a home where my dad was like that and i've learned that behavior. I learned not to like be easily hurt or offended. I wasn't always like that.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I remember somebody, a friend of mine saying something to me about being too sensitive to, it was in my junior year of high school. And I would always be like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did I offend you? Or I'm sorry. Or did that hurt you or whatever? And one of my friends, he didn't want to hang out with me anymore. And I went to his girlfriend. I'm like or did that hurt you or whatever and one of my friends he didn't want to
Starting point is 00:56:45 hang out with me anymore and I went to his girlfriend I'm like what's up with him why and she's like like you're too it's too much hope he doesn't want to deal with that like you're always like concerned about this or hurt about that or whatever and I literally made a decision after I was done talking to that person. I literally made a decision. I will not be like that anymore. I will not talk like that anymore. I will be me. I will not worry about everybody else more than I worry about myself.
Starting point is 00:57:14 That's so good. And from that moment on, I made a change. And people were like, what happened to you? And I'm like, I'm just me. Yeah. And that guy wanted to be my friend. He came back. It was like two weeks later
Starting point is 00:57:27 and he was like, okay, I can, I can, this is a hope I can deal with. And it wasn't because I was a turd. No, I wasn't mean,
Starting point is 00:57:34 but I just stopped being sorry. Right. And you were genuine to who you were. Like that's like God created you specifically. Yeah. To you be you. Yeah. And when you're not,
Starting point is 00:57:44 it does, it pushes people away because it's not like you're trying to be something that they don't even to you be you. And when you're not, it does. It pushes people away because it's not like you're trying to be something that they don't even want you to be. And maybe you'll find people that like that, but then they'll take advantage of that because that's not even who you're supposed to be either. So yeah, that's so good. Defining moments in life. That's huge. And what you do with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And lots of times people have defining moments in life and they do nothing with them. Right. Or turn into the victim. Like you just were like, you know what? I'm going to do something about this. And that is such a unicorn thing. Like I'm very rarely in discipling people and being friends with people. It's very rare that when I tell somebody something that I feel like God is like, you need to give this advice.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And it's not fun all the time. And most of the time, most of the time, they give all the excuses why they can't do it. You don't understand. And I'm like, but there's freedom. Like, right. Like I literally am telling you what the freedom is or asking a question so they can lead to the freedom like they did with you. And then there you go taking it. And then you got him back. You got your friend back. Yeah. And I didn't have to be a turd sucker in order to do that. I had to be true to me yeah so good just be true to yourself that's the thing and there's so much freedom and not like like sarah said not being offendable right like golly man it's just a beautiful place to live and dwell.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Because if you think about it, Jesus didn't get offended. Correct. Yep. He just didn't. He could have. There was a lot of opportunities. Yeah. And it doesn't say that offense is a sin.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It doesn't. It leads to it, though. But it's a yucky lifestyle when you're always offended. So much freedom and just, it's not that you don't care. You do care. You don't care enough, though, that you will let it affect you. You care, you care in so much that if somebody speaks truth to you, that, you go, okay, is there truth to this or is there no truth to this? Let me identify what you're saying to me. Like,
Starting point is 00:59:45 let's dissect this. I'm going to take the parts that are true, apply them, and I'm going to throw out the rest of the crap. Right. And that's where there's no offense unless you allow it. You feel it, but you don't allow it to stay. Yeah. And I like what you say too. You always check their fruit too. Like somebody that's giving you I like what you say, too. You always check their fruit, too. Like somebody that's giving you correction and giving you advice, would you want their life and what's going on there? All the time I do that. All the time. It's such great advice.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I say that to Tom all the time. If somebody has spoken something into his life, I always say to him, before he goes down a path that might not be a good one, I always say to him, would you want what they have? Spiritually speaking, are they on a higher spiritual plane than you? What does their walk with God look like? Is that one that you want? Is there a marriage one you want? Is their kids the kind you want? If you can answer no to almost all of that, don't listen to them. They have no fruit. They're not worthy. And I'm not saying they're not worthy. And that doesn't, I'm not saying they're not a worthy person. Everybody's worthwhile to a certain extent.
Starting point is 01:01:11 They're not worthy of you listening to them though. Right, exactly. Heck to the no. I don't let just anybody speak into my life. And the word of God tells you not to do that too. You better know them. You better know their fruit. You better know their lifestyle. Just because they have a word doesn't mean it's for you. And listen, people get it wrong, including me. People are not infallible. So make sure that you know them very well before you let somebody speak into your
Starting point is 01:01:49 life or they're a trustworthy source that they even before they speak into your life, they make sure that what they're telling you is what they believe the Lord is telling them. Right. And this goes back to like, I want to know before somebody else says it. So I want God to tell me first. And then I want my friends to confirm it to me. Like that's kind of the goal in my life is God tells me first and then everybody else confirms it. So I'm not like hearing you say something that I'm like, God, is that like, I should be so close to God that like you should be telling me and confirming what he already told me. That's what I was trying to say earlier. 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:26 100%. I agree with you. I will say it is very rare that somebody has ever come up to me and told me something that I didn't already know. And it was confirmation on the big things especially. Right. But if somebody wants to speak into my life about something specific, whether it's correction, even correction, like when correction has come,
Starting point is 01:02:51 I already knew it because I knew where I needed to be corrected. So this wasn't any rocket science stuff. It's more of the Lord going, okay, I've already told you now. I'm going to send my messenger. I'm getting serious with you, Chick. Right, right, right. Yeah. And that's a good dad. Like a good dad would do that. You know, like a good dad would have a conversation with you first. And then when you're not, you know, you're not doing it, then he's going to send in correction in whatever way. But the thing is, is when he sends in the person to correct you, it's more than likely,
Starting point is 01:03:23 if not always going to be somebody you can trust. Not somebody you don't know. Because then you'll even question whether or not that was real or not. Because you don't know them. Unless, like,
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'll say this. Somebody, this is when it can be real. Then we'll close out. But, um, I don't think Aaron and Naz will mind me talking about this, but Aaron and Naz,
Starting point is 01:03:50 a long, long, long time ago, the Lord came to them or somebody, the Lord had somebody come up to them at a church that they knew nobody in. And this person read them their mail and then told them some futuristic things like for them they were like okay wait a minute there's no way that these this person could possibly know and then on top of that so those are the people that you take serious because like you know they're a messenger
Starting point is 01:04:22 of the lord because they know things that ain't possible for them. Like when Jonathan read Katie's mail when he came. That's what I'm talking about. If you were there for that service, you'll know what I'm talking about, which I'm not going to get into because it doesn't need to be repeated. But he read her mail. That's when you listen. And it's not because Jonathan's a prophet.
Starting point is 01:04:46 If anybody came to her and said that, she should listen to them because there's no way anybody would know that stuff. That's a prophet of the Lord. The rest of it is crap. Always be very careful who you let speak into your life. Be very careful, especially if they're going to tell you about your future and they don't
Starting point is 01:05:06 really know anything about you unless they can read your mail and then tell you about your future. Then you listen. Yep. And there'll be a piece too that comes with it. You'll feel that overwhelming piece. Even if it scares you. Yeah. Or it's correction. You'll still, you'll just, it'll just, you'll know that, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And listen, we've had people correct us that we knew pretty good, but we didn't know great. But when they came and they said, okay, this is what the Lord's telling me, I was like, well, there ain't no. At first I was like, I'm recalling one time this lady came to me and said,
Starting point is 01:05:40 this is what the Lord has told me. And I was like, yeah no thanks and then i went to tom and i shared and this person knew us but they would never have known this yeah i went to time i said this person said this and he was like that's dead on i'm like what what yeah and but he knew her we knew her well enough like we could trust her and then I went back to her and I went listen when you tell me that I was like thinking you're off but just so you know I I'm a person of making sure that people uh if they give you a word they're putting themselves out so it's kind of a scary thing. So for you to come back and say, you were right,
Starting point is 01:06:28 that builds their faith to know, okay, I heard from you, Lord. I'm going to take the next time you tell me, even though it might scare me and it doesn't seem like it would be accurate, I'm going to take that step forward. I'm going to be obedient and I'm going to give that word. That's the reason I go back to people so that they know you were right. Yeah. Keep doing what you're doing. Yeah. Because my face when she said it was like, you're like, yeah, thank you. That's cute. Which, yeah, which made her probably think I'm way off on this. I know. Like, oh man, should have done it. Dang it.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I know. Which I've had to do. I've had to give people not just correction, but I've had to go and tell people things I feel like the Lord's got for their to give people not just correction, but I've had to go and tell people things I feel like the Lord's got for their future. And they're like, yeah. And the whole entire time you're like, you're wrong. You're wrong. You could not be more wrong. This is not God.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And they don't always come back and tell you. Most of the time they don't come back and tell you that it was truth. And you need that as we all know, because we all have to give words to people. And you need that, as we all know, because we all have to give words to people. And it's a scary thing. So that's it. Love you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:34 See you on Friday. Thanks for joining in. Friday is good. Friday is about, Friday we're going to talk about AI. Yeah, oh Lord is right. Let me just tell you. Hey.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Fridays is scary about AI. Yeah. And Vanessa's story. And then Vanessa's story. And then people wanting to do full-time ministry. What that looks like. As far as a person wanting to know about what full-time ministry, how do you know those kinds of things and those answers, answering those questions.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So see you on Friday. Tune in then. And that's it, right? That's it. That's it. See you. Bye. Bye.
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