The Hope Hotline - Preach To All The Creatures?! | Prayer Groups Turn into Gossip Time

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E45 | 06-20-2025

Hello and welcome to the HOPE hotline. You're counting down stinks Tracy. Hope it's not for you. It was you already know when we're going. It was for our video. Oh okay. Sneak peek. You won't do it again. Forgive me. I don't know what you're doing over there but I thought that was for me to help me out. That's why I didn't turn on the mic yet because you didn't need to know. Nunya. Well welcome to the Hope Hotline. the most unprofessional podcast you'll ever be a part of. But it's so fun. Ever.

I'd rather have laid back than uptight. Absolutely. I cannot handle uptight. Especially right now in the world. No, we just need to have fun. And here's the thing. Okay. If everybody, for those who are freaked out.

Preach. Stop being freaked out over what's going on. First of all, if you're not a Christian, I can see why you're freaked out. True. But get saved and then you won't be freaked out. Second of all, if you're freaked out and you're a Christian, open up your Dagon Bible.

You can clearly see. I know, what an idea. This is not the end. It's not the end. It's not. The end is not yet as my favorite pastor loves to say. The end is not yet. Who's that? Pastor Rodney. The end is not yet. That's what he says all the time. Huh? Don't tell Pastor Tom. She said don't tell Pastor Tommy's your favorite pastor. He's my pastor. Well, that's true. Tommy is my favorite pastor.

That's true. But it seems kind of weird for me to say that about my husband. But he is, though. But he is. But my pastor, besides my husband, thank you very much. That's what he says. The end is not yet. It isn't yet. Don't freak out people.

Like take it, take your down some notches. If you want to know that the end is not yet, all you have to do is read Matthew 24. It's one of the things that, one of the things that you can do to know that, you know, we're in the, what I I call birthing pains, which is what the Bible says. We're in the birthing pains of things, because it's actually all the things we're hearing about is what Scripture says are the birthing pains, but, or labor pains. You can read it either way, but take a chill. It's all gonna be okay. And if you really think any of these narcissists want to be eliminated and taken out, blown off the face of the earth, you're crazy. They live for

themselves. They're not gonna do anything that could potentially eliminate themselves. That's the consequence. If you throw that thing out into the atmosphere. Which it has been. It has been, it has. Nobody's gonna do it. And if they do Florida's gonna be the first one to probably go and we won't even know what it is.

Who cares? All the rest of you outside of Florida, the other 49 states, you'll be like, that made sense. Right. We're not the boot, but what is that little thing that we're called? It's like, it's not peninsula. Yeah, yeah, peninsula.

Is it what is it? You're right. Like it makes the most sense. And that's one of the theories right now is Florida will be taken out, will be invaded. Yeah. Good luck. We're all gun owners.

Hello, look at her shirt. Yeah. We're all gun owners. Even the women. What did you say, Sarah? Even the women are packing. Yeah, we're all packing. Like. Watch out. What did you say, Sarah? Even the women are packing. Yeah, we're all packing. Yeah, watch out.

So, I mean, I don't know. They would probably, to send a message, they're gonna blow us up off the face of the earth. To send the message. So yeah, Florida is- So if you live in other places, you're fine. Right, and if you live in Florida, just be saved. Yeah, if you're in Florida, get right with God. Right, and then live your best life. And then we live in Florida, just be saved. Yeah. If you're in Florida, like get right with God.

Right. And then live your best life. And then we'll be with Him. Well, that will be your best life. Right. Exactly. As soon as we go up there, we're golden. Right. Saved, best life, golden. That's right. That's right. Yeah.

But just so many people are freaked out. Like, oh my gosh, have fun. I don't even know what you guys are talking about. Oh my gosh. Are you freaking kidding me, Sarah? That is it. Be saved. And then live your best life

and have no idea what's happening. Well, no, no, no, you do need to know what's going on. No, she's got us. We'll let her know when it's appropriate. Can you tell me if something important? What does she need to know? What's her need to know basis right now? Well, this is pretty important. Okay, yeah, give her a couple of facts. What does she need to know? What's her need to know basis right now? Well, this is pretty important.

Okay, what, yeah, give her a couple of facts. What does she need to know? Okay, you don't know anything about Israel and Iran? No. They're bombing each other. Oh, okay, that's not good. Yeah, like, and Trump is like threatened to get involved. First, he said he wasn't, then he said he was,

now he says he's gonna give himself a couple weeks. But you know, it's the art of the deal. It is 100% the art of the deal. I don't know if I believe any of it, to be honest. I'm like, this could all just be AI. At this point. Sci-op. Right, I mean, Google VO is out,

it could just be all video. I'm saying. That is true. Okay. That's right. I mean, Google Vio is out. It could just be all video. I'm saying. That is true. Okay. That's why I'm like, Although. Do you wanna take a trip? I've already been there.

I got a couple of weeks. I've already been there. I've been to Israel. Fine, we'll tell ya. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Iran. Whichever. I was there.

Where did you go, Israel or Iran? Israel. Oh no, I ain't going to Iran. I heard Iran is beautiful. I'm not going to Iran. I heard Iran is beautiful. I'm not going to Iran where I have to put something over my face. Okay? It's not that I love my face so much,

but I love my freedom. I also love being alive too, but. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's all good. Good point. Yeah. I am a woman, although I am a woman, although I am a biblical woman who knows how to submit to her husband, I'm also very strong willed. True.

Very like you, you really need to hear what I have to say. Yes. Yes. In a very respectful, honoring way, but you really need to hear what I have to say. But you will need to hear it. Only really one person really needs to hear it. True. That's my husband.

True. That's it. But seriously, I mean like, it's hot as crap in here. Now you're hot. Okay. Talia, can you turn it down? Well, just turn it on. It's on 75, but so just down to 74,

but you're going to have to change it. Why do you think it's so hot in here? Because I had the door open because it was on 70. Yeah, but even still, it was cold when I did walk in here. I think you're just fired up. I'm fired up, baby. You know what question's coming up. You're ready.

I don't know what question. Click bait. OK. There's no question, people. I mean, there is questions, but they're not that great. She's gonna be cold in a second, so. Yeah, well, I'll be cold, so you'll have to get up in two seconds. Oh my gosh.

It's the buzz right now. It's the buzz. I get it. It was even on the view. But did I show you my girl that I love at the I Don't Care Club? I don't know. I love her. You know that's only three weeks old

and it has taken the world by storm. And now people are trying to copycat it, which listen, be your own you. Don't copycat. Figure out what you can do and you can do well. Don't copy what she's doing, like stealing from her thunder. Like do you?

What is this? I don't know what this is. Are you looking at it? I'm trying to figure it out. Okay, so it's the I don't care club and it's all for people like me, premenopausal and postmenopausal. Okay.

Well, I think it's more for like, like I went through menopause at, I finished menopause at 48. What did you say? 60? I am not even 60 yet. Thank you very much. Talia loves that one.

I'm pretty close. That's her favorite. I'm only two, I'm two years away from 60 now. Yeah, I'm two years away from 60. So take her down and slow it up. Back the truck up. Exactly. We're not there yet.

Golly. Which I actually am looking forward to 60. Are you? I loved turning 50. Aw, I love that. Which our good friend, Vanessa's husband, is turning 50 on Sunday. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Jeff. That's probably not. I think they're either flying right now or they're landing right now. Good for them. Because their flight was around one. But I love turning 50. I love turning 40.

I love that. 40 has been great. 40 is awesome. So I'm glad you are excited. You liked 50s too. Loved it. I'm loving my 50s. I love that.

And then, you know, like, you know, I don't need your help getting me to 60, but I'm just saying like when 60 happens, it's gonna be pretty great. Yeah, it will be. It really will be. I think people, well, first of all, people try too hard to stay young.

True. They're never satisfied where they're at. Like, they're always getting fillers. They're always getting something to change their appearance so that they stay young. The only problem with that is you look like a freak show. It's true. It's true.

Just grow all gracefully. Like lots of lines in my forehead because I talk with my forehead. Yep, yep. They're there. What happened? Smile lines from smiling, just life. For me, I was talking to the person that does my facials,

which she's freaking amazing. But fillers and stuff like that, they don't last, but laser. Okay. You can do laser and that's more natural. Who does that? Does Tracy do that? I don't think Tracy does do laser.

She does micro-needling. Right. And she just, oh dearly, Lord's in mercy. We almost had a major accident. We're good. We're good. Everything's good. Micro-needling people.

Yeah. I saw before and afters. No, I'm interested in micro-needling, but. But it's also really great for your face. If you're just gonna age gracefully. I am gonna age gracefully, but here's the thing. You can't. Gracefully, not fast. Not, but here's the thing, like what it does for your face

and takes off the layers of dead skin and like rejuvenates your skin. Like it's got some great things to it besides like getting, it's great for scarring. There's so many good things and she just got a new piece of equipment, but like I'm like like that's not so bad But it what it doesn't do is it doesn't reverse your age. It just like you're graceful in it

I'm still gonna look like I'm 58 years old but Like I said to her like you're not gonna be able to get rid. There's no way to get rid of these deep lines She's like no, but it won't be they won't be as deep and then you'll have fresh new skin. I'm all for that. Right, this says it increases collagen and elastin. Elastin. Yes. So it helps improve skin burn, this texture and tone.

So it's not really like, it's just improving what you're missing. It rejuvenates. Yeah, exactly. Which is great. Right. But in the process of all of that, like these lines won't go away, but they won't be as deep. Right. But in the process of all of that, like these lines won't go away, but they won't be as deep. Yeah.

I like, for me, I'm just saying why fill your lines up with junk that you don't even know. Right. What's in that stuff. It's not natural. And then you have to do it for the rest of your life. Right. And they say it stretches your skin.

So when you stop using it, it potentially can be worse. I don't know if that's true or not. I do not know if that's true or not. Chet, she PT that, but I don't know, but still. But all for natural stuff, but laser is the more aggressive and I'm not up for that. Not up for the aggressive. I'm not up for that. Not up for the aggressive. I agree.

But anybody that's near 40s, 50s, 60s, this girl is very funny. I love her. She makes me laugh. Where is she on TikTok? She's on TikTok. I don't know even how I found her. I think she came up on my For You page.

She's on Instagram. Is she on Instagram even how I found her. I think she came up on my For You page. She's on Instagram too. Is she on Instagram too? Okay. Ah! There you go. And I'm all for the funny. Like, please, I don't wanna see people crying. I don't wanna see people depressed.

I don't wanna see people like, you know, sharing all of their hardships. Although I do love those stories where that jubilant in the morning, where he's like, they're tricking people. Where they're tricking people into confessing that they're having affairs or like their first dates were terrible.

Me and Tom have laid in the bed and cried, laughing. Laughing. And then there's other people that just, they're just terrible, but they think they're great and they're great for, yeah. Minimal time on TikTok, but there's some great, I hear my kids in there, I'm not Tommy so much, I hear Norma in her room just crying of laughter.

Oh my gosh, I know. There's some funny stuff. There's some crazy stuff out there. There's some funny stuff. I'm gonna show you, Sarah, I'm gonna show you this guy on TikTok. His name is Joey Bro. I send them to them.

Do you have TikTok, Sarah? On and off. Okay, Sarah, I'm sending you Joey Bro. He's horrible but he has got the confidence of a I don't know what. He looks like he's, listen he's stuck in the 80s. He's the singer that's about five beats behind and everything that he sings. And his dancing is... Subpar. Slightly pornographic. Oh. I mean, oh my gosh, he's worse than Elvis

with the hip thrust. But he thinks like he is nailing it. Oh, you have? Yeah, she knows him. You know Joey? Bro, B-R-E-A-U-S. Yeah. Wow. Joey Bro. I don't think IE-A-U-S. Yeah. Wow.

Joey bro. I don't think I'm gonna follow him. Don't follow him. Let me ride along. Yeah, wait for, wait for him. It doesn't matter. I'll wait for him. He's gonna come up on your for you page

whether you wanna follow him or not. Trust me about that. Now that I've switched for him. He's cute. It's done, it's a done deal. Over. Yes. All right.

All right. Ready? What do you got going on girl? I got some stuff. All right. We got some What do you got going on, girl? I got some stuff. All right. I got some stuff to talk about. Okay, let's do it. All right, so if you're on Facebook, like, share, comment, and then head over to Rumble.

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And then right now we are on TikTok so Hope and I are live streaming together. So if you're on TikTok, hello, glad you're here. You can go to heyitshope01 or you can do the Hope hotline either way and we would love for you to join us. Also follow us on those platforms because we got fun stuff coming up. And then we have the option for you guys to send in your questions. We would love, love, love to hear from you and just know what you guys are chatting about, what you have questions about, anything that maybe you're having a hard time finding the answer to, or if you're struggling with something in your family, or even your marriage or something,

and anything like that, we would love to be able to have the opportunity to answer that and see what Hope thinks about it, where she can find something, maybe some scripture for you to stand on. But yeah, send those over, askhope at hopehotline.com. You can, again, follow us on the Hope Hotline on TikTok. We're over there doing all kinds of stuff. And then Hope is killing it. Hey, it's Hope. She- Is that my new number right there? That is. Woohoo! 261 as of this afternoon.

So I don't know. Did you get anybody else? I don't know. Okay. I've been slicing wood. That's true. I've been like cutting wood today, this morning. Oh my gosh.

Yeah. So that's, you'll you'll wanna follow her. We all kinds of random stuff going on over there. And it is- That's pretty good since just starting middle of March, right? I know, was it March? I started March 12th.

March 12th. And it was a hot mess. I didn't really get into my groove until the end of March. I know, we didn't know what we were doing. We were figuring it out. But you started, and also you, didn't you start and then it, was it gonna go down?

No, that was January. I started one, it went down, I lost it. Oh yeah, then your phone, then you're getting TikTok back on, like that whole thing. It was a whole thing. Yeah, it was crazy. So yeah, we got all kinds of random stuff on there.

So we have like questions that are, we do, we are like all over the place with our questions. So you'll wanna see, I know that one. We have some that are like sent in and then Hope answers and they're kind of crazy. Then she has some that are either true or false. And then she has other stuff that she pops on there. So none of this stuff is anywhere else.

So if you wanna check it out, you have to go to TikTok. She's posting all the time, very active on there. So you wanna go see what's happening over there. See, that's the crazy thing. Like I know those numbers aren't right, but that just goes to show you how schizophrenic TikTok is because you can go from 1000 to 2000 to 400 to 100 views. Anybody that's on TikTok is like, we know.

Oh, we know, we know how crazy it is. Oh my gosh, they get with the program. I know, and now everybody is, I'm gonna put us back on for a second. Now everybody is hearing to do 20 to 30 posts a day. So now my feed is filled with like the most random stuff ever or everybody's like, hey, do 20, I'm doing 20 a day and they're not saying anything.

And I'm like, I'm not gonna watch it cause you're not saying anything. So if you're gonna do- Why would you do that? Because you get a ton of followers. But like, what are they following you for? It's like having a ton of people come to church and you're not even preaching the gospel.

Like you're not winning them to anything. So if you have them on your, if you have TikTok and you have a- Won't they delete you eventually? I'm sure, I guess. I don't know how TikTok works. I mean, they could unfollow you, but like even then, are you gonna have like supporters or you just have a random number of followers? I don't know. TikTok works. I mean, they could unfollow you, but like even then are you gonna have like supporters

or you just have a random number of followers? I don't know. I guess it's whatever your goal is, but I just think it's like, I think you just stick to what you want to put out there and then find your people, you know? And it might take a little bit longer. You don't have to do all the gimmick things.

Sometimes it works. I had a dog, which I do have a dog, but if I had a dog, man, I could climb the space needle with that thing. Sometimes it works. I had a dog, which I do have a dog, but if I had a dog, man, I could climb the space needle with that thing. But could you imagine just filming your dog every day? Oh, yeah, I could because I love my dog. Every day for the rest of your life. That's what you're gonna spend your time on.

Well, I might because I literally could, some of these people with their animals, I can watch them. There's these people with their animals, I can watch them. There's some people with their animals, I do watch them because I'm like, I like that. And it's happy. Yeah, right, right. So probably I could probably film my dog every day. Then maybe that's the next thing we're doing.

No, I can't do anything else. The next thing we're doing is I'm buying arms with guns for her chickens. Oh my gosh, yes. She is. Amazon, get it now. I'll donate to the cause. So my chickens are gonna have hands.

Yeah, yes. With guns. And we can make a commercial for the girls gun club. Chicks with guns. Oh my gosh, that's dang funny. There you go, girl. Just in the smart brain of mine. So smart.

Can I climb in there? Come on, guys. Two seconds. Let me climb in there. That was fast. That was good. That was good. Listen, keep me around, guys.

Keep me around. Okay, sorry. Okay, so next coming in July 2nd, but just so you guys know, next week, there are no podcasts. We've got some stuff going on here, but also I am going to be traveling, I'm gonna be up to see in my family, hopefully meeting my nephew, my newest nephew. I am gone for two weeks but it's like 4th of July. You guys aren't gonna miss us. You're gonna be so busy these next couple weeks. You're gonna be like whatever but just so you know, Wednesday and

Friday you do have Heather. Wednesday and Friday, I'm gonna pull up the dates real quick. It's the 25th and the 27th of June. We will not be here. So please remember that. And then the next following week is the second, which you guys know, July 2nd is Nick Hansen. So- Which we'll only do one podcast that week, correct?

Correct, because then it's the 4th of July. And I don't have that graphic yet because I have to make that. So, but we will not be here on the 4th of July, which is Friday. And then then we'll be back, we will be back on July, what's that date? Pull my mouse down here July 9, we'll be back July 9, and 11th and 16th and 18th. So you guys don't worry, don't worry about it. We'll have so much fun together. And then Natalie will be on at some point in the near future, but we got to figure that out

because then July's kind of crazy too. We got like our youth week that week. So possibly the end of July, I think is what we're doing. The reason we're not having her on in June is because we have Dare to Be. So if you guys are here next Friday, June 27th, doors open at 630, but start at 7pm. You'll definitely want to join. There's door prizes and hope will be preaching and it's going to be a good, good time.

So I'm going to share. Very good door prizes. Very good door prizes. I can confirm, but this is our little commercial. Enjoy. This is your personal invitation to Dare to Be, a powerful evening for women of all ages centered around healing, hope, and an authentic encounter with God. Join us for a night filled with passionate worship, inspiring Bible teaching, and the presence of God that restores and renews. You'll leave encouraged, equipped, and empowered. So bring a friend, open your heart,

and get ready to dare to be all that God created you to be. Okay, so please join us, bring friends, and definitely grab a raffle ticket. Do not share it like I always do. You will want to hold onto it. Did you know that I don't like winning? I don't like playing games. What? I hate playing games. Oh, I hate playing games, but I do enjoy winning. Did you know that I don't like winning? I don't like playing games. What?

I hate playing games. Oh, I hate playing games, but I do enjoy winning. I don't, I don't know. And Sarah absolutely loves winning. And she loves it. She does. She does. So if I- That's cause she does, she wins. Cause she does win all the time.

I'm a winner by nature. But she's like the perfect winner. Cause she goes up and she's excited. Yes, that is true. I appreciate that as a photographer and a videographer, like we appreciate that. So thank you for your service. It's always for the plot.

It's always for the plot. Oh my gosh, look at how dark it is. If you do not smile and you win a prize, where's the camera? We're taking your prize. I will personally take that prize away from you. What are you gonna do with it? Keep it for yourself?

Give it to someone who's happy. No, and they're gonna have to go redo the reaction and then they get their prize. Look at spicy McGryne over there. Listen, there's nothing worse than when somebody wins and you're like videoing it and they're like. And you're like, I could have done so much better. Thank you.

I know, like Sarah could have done better. She's got her bangs all done. Callie's got a new haircut with some blonde in it and she is like a little fiery today. Blondes have more fun. Great. What am I saying? What am I saying?

She's dating my son, so knock it off over there. Not too much fun. Exactly. All right, first question. Let's do it. Going to all the world and preach, oh, what is that? Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creatures, which says,

which that is what it says in Mark 16, 15. Preaching to every creature, question mark, animals, question mark, what other creatures would this mean? Well, this is gonna be short and sweet. And then I'll have you guys chime in if you wanna chime in, but really there are no other creatures.

If you looked at Matthew Henry's commentary about what the scripture means, this is, I hate to say this is gonna be boring for some people, stay on. Cause there's not much to this, to be honest with you. And I don't like wanna like run through this so fast that the person doesn't feel like their question was valued, to be honest with you. And I don't like when I like run through this so fast that the person doesn't feel like their question was valued, but it's super fast, super easy to answer.

So the word creature means to whom they were to preach the gospel. That's this verse is what this, this verse means this, not this word. To whom they were to preach the gospel, hitherto they had been sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and were forbidden to go into the way of the Gentiles or into the city of the Samaritans but now their

commission is enlarged and they are authorized to go into all the world and to all the parts of the world the habitable world not outer space if that's what you were wondering, and to preach the gospel of Christ to every creature, to the Gentiles as well as to the Jews, to every human creature that is capable of receiving it, and form them concerning Christ, the history of his life, and death and resurrection, and instruct them in the meaning and intention of these, and of the advantages which the children of men have or may have hereby, and invite them without exception to come and to share them." Okay,

animals, it can't be animals because animals don't have a rationale. They don't have a comprehension to be able to say, I receive Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Human beings pretty much are the only creatures on the face of the earth and even Sasquatch can't do this. If that's what you're wondering. Aliens, if that's what you're wondering. Which I don't believe it in Sasquatch or aliens or the Loch Ness Monster. Are you serious? It's footage. Oh my gosh. The problem is, is you believe that slightly.

I mean, Bigfoot. And your kids. Oh my gosh. Please don't get me going off on Bigfoot. I won't. Sarah. But it's a toss up. Sarah and Tracy, you both believe in Bigfoot.

He has to be able to be saved. Unless he's half human, half animal. Here's what I think in Bigfoot. He has to be able to be saved. Unless he's half human, half animal. Here's what I think about Bigfoot. Please tell. All of the pictures are blurry. It's because he's just blurry. He's just a blurry guy. Pixelated.

Yeah. He's in real life. If you were to see him, he would look blurry too. Right. I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense. Because we have really good footage now. Right. And he's always blurry.

And is it just one or are there multiple? Totally there's multiple. But there's a big foot. We call him the big foot, but I think it's like multiple big foot feet. I mean, he's not going to heaven. Okay, you both cannot be serious about this right now. Please tell me.

He's not going to heaven. I'm not saying that, he can't get saved. No. But he's definitely out there. I mean, if I saw him, would I preach the gospel to him? Maybe. I probably wouldn't. Or he'd eat you. Right, I probably wouldn't,

but I would definitely get a less blurry picture, but it still would be blurry. Right. I might risk my life for that one, just to prove. I know you're fooling me. I know you're both like, people would say we're conspiracy theorists, but there is some truth to that to a certain extent. But all of the conspiracies that I have believed in

actually have come to pass. So are they conspiracy? No, they're not. Now those two, those two yahoos over there, that's a whole different story. I'm just saying. Don't listen to them. Or listen to us.

Some of you out there are like, yeah, I know, I can hear them. I know, I can hear them. Oh my gosh, in your head. Yes. Along with the other voices that you're listening to as well. are like, I know I can hear them. I know I can hear them. Oh my gosh. In your head. Yes. Along with the other voices that you're listening to as well. You don't hear voices in your head?

No, I do not. Dear Lord's of mercy. Let's go back to this. So the word creature in the Greek, Fine, I'm listening. the Greek is called Tissus. Okay. The word creature in Greek is Tissus. Okay. it's number 3231 if you want to go and reference it. And it means creation, created thing, creature, governmental institution. Creation, authority, created things, creature, world. So even if you see the word creature, it can even mean the word world. But in in no way, shape or form,

unless something can actually have the comprehension to receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior, they're not talking about that. It's not animals. Animals cannot be saved. Do I think animals are in heaven? My conspiracy says yes. I mean, it's in the Bible. I have found something that is very yeah, Jesus comes back on a horse. Ask at least be a horse up there. I never thought

about that. I never thought about that. You're welcome. Thank you. You're welcome. I know they're there. But there's other things in there that, well, the thing is, is we're going to, well, somebody might say we're vegetarian. But there's a scripture in there that I have found that makes it very vague about animals being in heaven, your pets. But you know what? Kudos to you, my sister friend.

That's from my mom. God bless you. Thanks, mom. Batshki. Yep. Batshki, thank you so much. Thanks, Batshki. Sorry for coughing in everybody's ears.

The word creature is referring to people. That's it, that's all I can tell you. That's my opinion, I'm sticking to it. And unless somebody can prove me otherwise that there's other creatures. And I don't want to see like fake aliens. And I don't want to see it. I've seen lots of pictures. I don't buy any of them yet. Like why with an alien, why would,

they can't get, they can't go to heaven, so why would God make it so that if they were created, that they would be doomed? That's another thing with the old. I mean, I have loved ones who actually believe in them. And they're great people. In aliens? In aliens, they do.

Like that they're good? Cause a lot of people think aliens are demons, or fallen angels or something. Like that's their- What? Oh yeah, that's the only thing I've ever heard. Not that there's like, like they're not real, they're just like the- I have never heard this before.

Really? No. You just forgot. This is a tributary that I have not walked down. Fallen angels, I've always thought and believed were demons, not aliens. How can they be both? Well, they're not, because there's not really aliens

because they just pretend. To be an alien? Yes. They take the form of an alien? Well, yeah. Are the people that believe in aliens that you know, they've seen aliens? Or they just believe that aliens exist?

I'm going to be honest with you. OK. Is it you? I've never. No. No. No. And then I've never gone into depth with them enough to,

I've made the conversation, I haven't made it. The conversation was brief because it wasn't one that. You were interested in. Or like it was probably set in passing or something like that. So there wasn't like a chance to really go into, to deep dive into it. Right.

So we can assume that they just believe they exist, not that they've seen them. Well, there's lots of people that have said they've seen them. Right, right. Yeah, I know. They've been like probed by them. Right.

But that's demonic to me. And it sounds like they were probably on acid. That's what I think. I'm probed by them. Right. But that's demonic to me. And it sounds like they were probably on acid. That's what I think. Right. I think they were either. So this is involved. Correct. They were either drunk.

Yeah, or something. Or something. Or something making their. Or even like some of the medication people are on. Like that stuff can make your. Or it was a dream and dreams can seem very real. That's true. Yeah.

Depending on who you are and how much chemicals you've have consumed. I was gonna say, I always know when I'm dreaming. And the dream I don't, but when I wake up, I'm like, I was a dream. No. Listen, I've had so many, like, listen, we all have had dreams where our spouse or somebody that we're very much into

has cheated on us. And listen, waking up the next morning and just not wanting to go, oh! Right, but you knew it was a dream. But you're so mad, but you knew it was a dream. Oh no, I woke up and I realized it was a dream. Right, that's definitely my point. I mean, when I woke up, I'm like,

right, oh yeah. Okay, yeah, that's true. Because it's real, but then you wake up, I'm like, Right. Oh yeah. Because it's real, but then you wake up and you're like, Oh, it was just a dream. Yeah, because he's still next to me. He ain't with Hotsy Totsy. Oh my gosh. Hotsy Nazi. So I'm just saying, not N-A-Z-I. Nazi, N-O-T-S-Y.

She's not hot. Nazi. Not like as in, I love Hitler. Now we're off YouTube. Are we really? Because like, hey listen, I've said far less than been kicked off. That's true.

True. Now we're good, we're good. We're so good. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. Well that is definitely a theory, is that they're just demons. They're not really aliens.

It's just the anime trying to deceive people. Yeah, but they're deceiving people. So instead of thinking, they think that literally aliens are gonna come down and get them. How consuming could that be if you actually believe, oh, they're really smart, they could just come one day and a UFO can appear. People get consumed by this stuff.

So it's perfect for the enemy to do that. Everybody has their thing and that's some people's thing. It's weird. But listen, I mean, everybody's got their thing. Everybody has their thing. Thank God that's not mine. It's not yours. I can't do that.

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either of those businesses for sure. The next question that we have that we're going to move on to for those who are on TikTok and watching this is a Christian podcast. And so sometimes it's gonna sound weird to you, but leaving Christian principles can better you. If you're like, there's a lot of people who are, they don't really want to do the God thing but they always are trying to level up in having character, character, integrity, being a better friend, being a better person in general. And Christian principles make that happen. So you can apply them and then maybe you'll see the difference and you'll want the difference. Who knows? My prayer group always turns into a gossip session.

How can I redirect the conversation without sounding self-righteous or should I just leave the group all together? There are very, there are a lot of scriptures that talk about this and we're going to hit some, but I'm going to tell you right now, like, it's not just prayer groups. It's not just prayer groups. It's Bible studies. It's moms groups. Oh, my gosh. Listen, me and a girlfriend who come to come to the church, she she had a little girl and then I had my son. And I don't know if my daughter was born yet, but she and I did, Allison,

she and I did a lot of stuff together. We would walk together. She rollerbladed, I walked. I'm not doing that. Hot mess. Lot of skin, knees, elbows. I would have needed a helmet. Not doing it.

I am not going anywhere where I need to wear a helmet unless I'm on the back of a motorcycle and still not doing that. So, we had this mom's group, the church we had both attended at the time. And one of the things, I stopped going first of all, cause my kid kept beating the crap out of everybody. And I was the topic of conversation.

Poor Hope. I'm out of here. But on top of that, that's what it ended up being. It ended up being everybody gossiping and talking about one another or about other people in the church, because Christians are not perfect people and they should be striving for that, but I mean, gossip is a sin. And it clearly says in the Word that if you do that, you're not going to go to heaven.

So you might want to think about shutting your trap. But when I was like, when I went to that church, I battled at that time being a big, huge gossip. Like I was, I'm maybe not a big, huge gossip, Like I was, I may be not a big, huge gossip, but I was pretty gossipy. And what you gotta do is remove yourself from that situation because all that's going to do is perpetuate. And the thing is, is a lot of times people think that if you're not the one talking,

but you're the one listening, that you're innocent in the equation. You're not innocent in the equation because you're participating in the gossip. And we'll read the scripture, but it's going to separate you from your friends. It really will. Like you need to be dogmatic about not talking about other people unless you talk to them straight to their face. Talk to them about it, but don't talk to a lot of other people about things.

It's not good. It'll ruin relationships and you'll be considered untrustworthy. So what I, when, before I get going, what do you guys have to say about this? I'd love to hear what you have to say about it. Well, when Vanessa and I started the Tuesday group, we had our first conversation was, how do you want to handle women coming in and bashing their husbands?

Because that's normal. That is very normal. And they don't even realize they're doing it because they get away with it in all the other groups. So it becomes like a norm. And so I just wanted to, like, we talked about, like, how we would handle it and sure enough, like, it's something that never happens.

So it's kind of cool when you go to a church and leadership sets an example, and then they bring in those type of people. You know what I mean? Like, you attract people like that. So it is not the norm for somebody to come into our group and bash their husbands because they sit under Pastor Tom enough that they, I mean, they stayed this long,

so they must agree, you know, and it doesn't, they're not like wanting to rip their hair out, like, cause Pastor Tom's saying to submit to your husband and biblically, like just reading the Bible verse. So I don't know, just for that, like we never really had to deal with it. We've had a couple instances where we had to deal with things.

But it's always done biblically. And so there's a Bible verse that literally tells you how to handle it. And do you do it that way? But like you said, if you struggle in this, just get out. Don't be around it. Stay away from it until you have built up the strength to not to just keep your mouth shut.

Because I think that's the hardest part. If you're somebody like me the strength to not, to just keep your mouth shut. Cause I think that's the hardest part is like, you just wanna, if you're like somebody like me that loves to talk, you just, all of a sudden, you're like talking and you're like, ooh, and it feels yucky, but you're too engaged at that point. So you have to make a decision then to either like get up and walk out, which is really uncomfortable, but necessary, or just not say anything, keep your mouth shut.

And I think too, like, you can just, like for me, I think you can talk about a situation or something. It's not like you keep your mouth shut about every single thing, okay? That's not reality either. That it's how you discuss that particular topic, that particular person, and are you making sure that at all times their reputation is being preserved?

Preserved, yeah. That was what I was gonna say, yep. Because you can talk about the truth about something, but you don't have to tear somebody down. Slander them. And even if they're the one that's wrong, because you can, I mean, usually people who do wrong things are great people.

Yeah. So let's not like make them be the worst thing on the face of the earth. Because usually that's what happens when somebody does something we pile on. It's just unnecessary because really in all actuality these people are usually if it's something that's gone awry or gone on, it's a great person and you don't want to destroy them. You want to build them up even though you can talk about a situation with honesty

without destroying their character and their integrity. What do you wanna say, Sarah? I'm in the midst of a situation right now that requires it to be communicated. So it's a slippery slope, like you're saying. It has to, like, you can't not talk about things if there's a problem that needs to be addressed. And specifically, if you've addressed that person directly

first and there's still no change. But what we've done, because I'm really, I think it's important to maintain the culture of what I'm building. So I'll use that phrase a lot. Like we're, we're really, this is important that we maintain the culture. And part of that is not talking bad about people. So we have little phrases.

I think for this person who's asking this question, they already know what they're supposed to do. Um, and I think that addressing it on your way out what they're supposed to do. And I think that addressing it on your way out is a good way to do it. Like don't just leave and not let it be known that why you didn't leave because why do you care if people think you're self-righteous? It's not self-righteous to do the right thing and to call people out on their stuff. True. Yeah.

Well, a lot of times it's, a lot of times what you do when you do that is you're bringing awareness to something that people might be unaware about. Correct. They might have gone so far that to them, it's just normal, normal conversation, normalcy for them. But that it is heaven and hell.

So conviction, not condemnation, but conviction comes in and has a great way of revealing things in the heart. And like causing you to want to prune things off of yourself that should not exist. Yeah. And that's one of them. But if somebody says something in the right way and brings it to your attention in the right way, a lot of times you might be like, that hurt.

But at the same time, you're like, you know what, that person really likes me. And like they risked sharing truth with me in a kind way and tried to not offend me. So maybe I don't need to be offended. Maybe I need to be self-aware or self-evaluate. Correct. Which is lacking in a lot of people.

Yeah, it's hard, but it's good for you. It is excellent. Every day, pretty much every day, I try to evaluate myself. And I don't do it where it's like obsessive compulsive. I just try and go through and think to myself, okay, is there anything about, and I don't do it like this,

but I'm just giving you an example, a more professional way of what I do, because I'm't do it like this, but I'm just giving you an example, a more professional way of what I do, because I'm very low key about this, but is there anything about today that needs to be corrected or that I could have done better or responded better? Because the thing is, is every single day you should be better than the day you were before. And a lot of times people are just so happy with the status quo. But that's not really what, you know, your

expectations should be, especially for your Christian walk. You should be able to look at yourself 30 days from now and go, I look different. And then people tell you, you look different. And I say this a lot, but you should, when somebody tells you that, man, you don't act the same way, you don't talk the same way, you don't look the same way, instead of being offended, you should be going, Thank you. Thank God.

I know. Thank God I don't. I'm doing something right. I'm actually biblically doing what the word tells me to do. A lot of times people get offended because how dare you tell me that there were things about me that I needed to change. Everybody has something that they need to change. Everybody. And to think that you don't, you probably have more than you even can even think that needs to be changed because you think so much of yourself.

And I'm not telling people to think lowly. What I am telling you is to be humble, be meek, and look at yourself through a lens that is truth, not one that is delusional. Because I think we do that a lot. We live in a state of delusion in a lot of ways. So I'm gonna give you some scriptures and then I'm gonna go back to my girls and see what they have to say.

But Ephesians 4.29, because I agree with Sarah 100%, you gotta say something. And I even put in my notes, you gotta to say something. Ephesians 429 says, don't use foul or abusive language, let everything you say be good and helpful so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them. Proverbs 11 13 says, a gossip goes around telling secrets, but those who are trustworthy can keep a confidence. Now for me I'm like which one would I want people to look at me as? Right. And you really should think like if somebody sees me walk in the room do they consider me somebody trustworthy? Like if I

have something that I need to share I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they're going to speak truth to me, but they're also not going to ever talk about it with anybody. It stays between me and them. I love those kinds of people. I love people that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt. I will, I always know where I stand with them and I know that I'm always going to get truth. And I'll only surround myself closely with those people versus people who want to shine, you know, shine your shoes, make you sound good all the time. Never read your own mail, whatever. Why are you looking at me like that? I don't know.

People who want to like- I'm thinking of a situation and it's making me have that. Sorry. I'll tell my face. Let's go. Listen, I do things with my face. I'm like, for me, like when you start, when people praise you and that's what you believe and that makes you feel really great about yourself.

But then when people talk bad about you and that makes you feel really low about yourself. Okay, that's a lifestyle of schizophrenia. True. Preach. Because up and down, up and down, up and down, by yourself. Okay, that's a lifestyle of schizophrenia. True, preach. Because up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down, get to a place. According to somebody else. Right, yeah.

Exactly. Get to a place where no matter what anybody says about you, it's irrelevant. Because you're confident in who you are in Christ. Because really, a lot of times people read their own articles, their newspaper articles about themselves, and they determine how their day is gonna be, you know. Yeah.

How many likes did they get on Facebook? How many comments did they get? How many people did they, you know, put a facade out to that think that they're one way and they're really another. That's how people live. They don't live in a real world. Proverbs 16 28 says, a troublemaker plants seeds of strife. Gossip separates the best of friends. Don't be a troublemaker. Don't be somebody because, like, it says that God hates a man who stirs up dissension, which is strife. Don't be somebody that God hates. I would hate to

be on the other end of that. So don't be a person who loves to cause issues and problems amongst people. And then on top of that, a gossip separates the best of friends. The thing is, is if you are honest about yourself, honest about things, when you gossip, you're separating yourself not from the people that you're gossiping about, but more importantly, because you will, but more importantly you're gonna be separating yourself from the people you're gossiping with. Because usually you're, that's your best friend or somebody you're close with.

You will not be close friends with them. I tell my kids all the time, you wanna ruin a relationship with somebody, gossip with them. You will not be friends with them. So if they're a really great friend, treasure that relationship and do not, do not gossip. Guard your tongue, guard your mouth,

because you will not be friends with them. I know this because I've done this and I've lost friends because of it. It's shameful and it's sad because it's not necessary. Romans 1, 29 through 32 says, "'Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.

They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God's justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. And when it says deserve to die, that means not go to heaven. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them too. Have you ever noticed that? Let's look at this. Greed, because greed is a sin.

Greed, hate, envy, murder. Everybody automatically goes, of course murder is a sin. But do you ever think that greed, hate and envy are? Cause a lot of people live in them. Like the one uppers, the one uppers are always envious of what somebody else has. So they gotta make sure that they get that. And then some. Quirling. Do you know that quirling, you're not supposed to do it? There's another scripture says do Nothing with arguing and with, how does it call? Do nothing with arguing and gosh. I can't remember what the other part of it is, but you're not, it's like,

we're not to argue with each other. We're not to like. What? Is it Flippin's 214, do everything without grumbling or arguing? Grumbling and complaining. Okay or complaining. Or and arguing is the... Yep. Yep. So and a lot of people that's what they do. They live their lives like that. We're not to do that. Like people should when they see that you're married

and you have a good marriage it's because it's a biblical marriage, right? That you're living things out. There's things that like me and Tom don't argue and we don't quarrel with one another, but what we do do is if we have a difference of opinion, because you will, we handle it in a very respectful way to one another, for the most part almost every single time. But there's, I mean, there's probably been five arguments in our whole entire dating and married life. And you, I don't have time for all of that anyway.

Who wants to do that? Not me. I'd rather live in sweet harmony. And then every time I see somebody in my family be super happy or just a friend, just enjoy them. Deception, which is lying, malicious behavior. People think that being malicious to one another, it's okay, it's all right.

It is not okay, it is not all right. They're heaven and hell things. Backstabbers. How often do we see that? People loved to backstab. Sure do. And people are like, nobody hates God. Well, yeah, they do. They do.

Because if you loved him, you'll obey him, which means that that's what it says. Those who love me obey my commandments. So if you're not obeying his commandments, then you definitely don't love him. So what's the opposite of love? Insolent, proud, hello. People are so proud.

It's ridiculous. Boastful. People are like their biggest fans. And listen, I love myself. But I don't boast about myself. You need to be very careful about that. Even when somebody loses and we hate them, we need to be very careful about boasting about that.

Be very careful about that. Disobey their parents. Parents, you need to make your kids obey. It's a big deal. It's a big deal to allow your child to be disobedient. It's a big deal. It's a big deal to allow your child to be disobedient. It's a big deal. This is what I love. I was reading these when I first found it and I'm like, man, this is like down to the nitty gritty. They refuse to understand. Isn't that crazy?

I mean, I can think of people that are like that. They refuse to understand that even the truth, they'd rather live in sweet oblivion. How you do that, I don't understand. Break their promises. How many of you guys love people who will tell you that you're gonna do something and then they don't do it? Because to them it's just words. I mean in that moment I wanted to do it but now I don't want to do it so I'm not doing it. How many times do we hear that? Especially I'm looking at Sarah in business, right?

Yeah. People talk a good talk but then when they have to do the follow-through keep your word. If you say you they have to do the follow through, keep your word. If you say you're going to do something, even if it inconveniences you, you do it anyway. That's true character of somebody. So unless you are really gonna do something, don't say you're gonna do it.

Correct? Oh yeah. Sometimes people say they'll do things for people because they think that that will make that person like them more. But let me just tell you, when you don't follow through and actually do it, that person likes you less. Because they know that you don't mean what you say and you don't do what you say. So their respect for you drops. And they don't trust anything you say you're gonna do. So when the next time you say you're gonna do something for them, they're gonna be like, sure, right. I'll believe it when I see it, is what happens. They're heartless and have no mercy. Don't let that be you guys. Don't let that be you. So if it was me and I was in this party or at this at this prayer group or Bible study,

when the gossip started, and don't think that I haven't done it because I have, but when gossip starts, I'm like, either I politely excuse myself. And if somebody asks why I said this is not a conversation I want to be a part of. If they say why, then I'm honest. I'm like, I don't want to be a part of gossip. We're not gossiping, we're just saying. And that's not what it sounds like to me. Because that's not what it sounds like to me, I'm going to politely excuse myself. Carry on with your conversation.

It's like, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. You don't think that that's gossip. Work that out with God. Me? I do. So I'm out. And then you just do your thing and don't go back. Don't go back.

Good word. What say you girls? Amen. Amen. Oh my gosh. Good word. What say you girls? Amen. Amen. Oh my gosh. I think that if you are living a lifestyle of gossip, peace will like come and go. Like you were saying, if you care about what people, if people say good things about you

and then they say bad things about you and they say good and your peace is like this because you care that much about it. The same with gossip. When you are living in gossip, you can't live in peace because then you're like, oh my gosh, well, what if they told that person what I said? But like, but I didn't really mean it. Like you're always gonna feel anxious because you said too much.

So yeah, so I'd say if you struggle with gossip, say less. You don't have to not say anything like Hope was saying. It's not not say, cause that's the other thing. I've, a lot of people have been like, well, we didn't say anything because we didn't want to be accused of gossip. And I'm like, is that the truth? Or is it you didn't want to say anything because of fear man?

And maybe that is true. Maybe you really didn't want to be accused of gossip. But gossip is slandering somebody. So find a good way to say it if it's really that bad. Like if something really bad is happening, you have to find a way to be able to communicate what's going on. And that's only fair for leadership,

that's only fair for if you're an employee or a business owner, if you don't tell, if you don't like mention something bad, how the heck are we supposed to know? So people love saying that like, oh, well, I just didn't wanna be accused of gossip. I didn't think it was my place to say something. Oh my gosh, that's another one.

Yep. Please. Please, there's another one. Yep. Please. Mm-hmm. Please, there's a right way and a wrong way. Hey, like, do you guys ever, did you ever feel like this? Like, I did, obviously, because I was a gossip, but like, if I had been gossiping or whatever, and then somebody would call,

my heart would be going, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, because I'm like, oh my gosh. What if they know? What if they're mad at me, because heart would be going, ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba. Cause I'm like, oh my gosh. What if they're mad at me because they know that I, like. And you're like, hello? Uh huh. Hello.

Or you gossiped and you then had to go out and test the water to see if, because that person's acting weird towards you. So you're testing the water to see if. They're mad. They're mad at you? Yeah, yeah. God, it's so great to be free from that.

I know, that's what I'm saying. Oh my gosh, never. Oh my gosh, it's so wonderful not to live like that. Yeah, true that. True that. And then there's sometimes, like literally with people, because some people don't change, sometimes I can sense and I can,

and I don't know if it's discerning, I'm not that discerning, so it's probably not, but to be honest with you. But when people will call me up sometimes, I'm like, and it's weird. Like it's out of, it's not normal. And I'll be like, have you been doing something that you feel bad about?

And that's the reason why you're calling me? Not that I ask or anything, but I'm like, have you been doing something that you feel bad about? And that's the reason why you're calling me. Not that I ask or anything, but I'm like, huh, maybe I need to be watching this. Cause sometimes it's because I know that there are scenarios going on with different people in different things. And I'm like, and they're tied to it. So one plus one always almost equals two,

but not always. But most of the time. But most of the time. Yeah. So I literally am like, are you testing? Are you trying to find out? Like not anything for me, but because you've done something that you regret

and you're trying to find out if I. Gotta say something. Cause I sometimes do. You do. I confront bad things. So, but it's so freeing not to live like that. It really is. as I sometimes do. You do. I confront the bad things. But it's so freeing not to live like that. It really is.

And it's very freeing to surround yourself with people who do not do that. So like you can find a good group of people, your own little prayer group, if that's what you love and you're passionate about, find your own people as, if Vanessa was here, she would say your own tribe. So in honor of her, we'll say tribe.

Find your own tribe, set some rules, set the standard, and then fulfill what you feel God's calling you to do. But if you don't, don't be a part of that. There's nothing good that comes from that. And my thing is, is yeah, you guys can pray for people and you can see positive results and everything, but how much better would you do if you didn't? Like how much more would you see what God, you know?

Your gifts and callings are irrevocable. So he's going to use you. That's true. But how much better could you be used with clean hearts and clean hands? And as a leader, be prepared for those moments because they're gonna happen. Somebody's gonna start,

because there are people that will come into the group and they're brand new and they just start unwinding because it's their time for prayer requests and then people just unwind. And you have to be able to stand up and be like, hold on, hold on and stop it, which I've had to do multiple times. And it's okay, like they just, they don't know.

So you have to be willing to stop it. You can't just sit there and, cause everybody's gonna start to feel like really uncomfortable. Cause like who has to get up and walk away? Like are we like, are we all like who, so the leader, that's your job to do that. You have to do it.

You have to. For the sake of everyone in that group. Right. It's a must. Right, especially if- It'll preserve the group. Right, exactly. Like she said, she's cultivating this group.

So if you want to cultivate that group, you can't allow certain things to sneak their way in. The enemy will always try, but if you stop it right away, every time, it's less and less and less. Well, you'll lose one, and you'll keep the rest, but you allow the one and you'll keep the rest,

but you allow the one and you'll lose more. Yes. And that's how it goes. Always. That's how it goes. Yeah, always. Trust me, I know. Me too.

I needed to hear that. Yeah. It's worth the loss. Yeah. And we've seen that. Yeah, we have. Like one of the things that my husband is famous for is nipping it in the bud as soon as he sees it.

And people are like, that's not fair. And he's like, it's a cancer. You don't allow cancer to grow. It's just like yeast. You don't allow a little bit of yeast to grow because it spreads. And then when it does, it spreads like wildfire. And stopping that is much harder

than getting rid of the one or the two or whatever it is. Get rid of them before they cause damage and harm. That's true. Cause they will, they'll bring in another person to justify and now it's two people that are in your group. Now they're like, they're battling you

and all the whole, no, thank you. No. If there's a vision and the vision's been cast and they don't wanna be a part of that vision, like praying for people and seeing whatever you're believing for that you're seeing, and then you got somebody in there that wants to just gossip and that it becomes a gossip fest instead of the praying,

then the vision's not being fulfilled. Then you need to get rid of them because they're not really there for the right reason. You got to. It's not, there's no real, I mean, there's no option unless they have a heart change. And they say, you know what? I've seen the error in my ways.

I'm gonna fix this and now I'm apart. I'm gonna be about what you guys are about. But that hardly ever happens because usually they get offended because you've called them out on their bad behavior. That's how it normally works. But again, you gotta do what you gotta do. And that's all that really matters.

So that's it. You guys gonna add anything? Anything else? That was good. Sarah, you don't have anything to add. I'll be honest, I really have to go to the bathroom. Oh, let's go. Woman's got a full bladder.

I could probably sit here and talk about this for another 20 minutes, but your girl's got to pee. So we're out of here. Have a great weekend. See you at church on Sunday. If you don't get to attend, watch us live on Rumble, Facebook, YouTube, Foundation Church.

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