The Hope Hotline - Q&A with Natalie on The Hope Hotline

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E08 | 01-31-2025...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 real talk real talk real talk real talk welcome to the hope hotline thank you for joining us this Friday. We got the doctor in the house. Sorry, I wouldn't say doctor, but she's my doctor. She's a nurse, nurse practitioner, which is like one step down from a PA.
Starting point is 00:00:39 No, same as a PA. Same as a PA? Yeah, just one step down from a doctor. There you go, one step down from a doctor. So you're equal to a PA. Same as a PA? Yeah, just one step down from a doctor. There you go. One step down from a doctor. So you're equal to a PA. Yeah. What a sweet deal. Under a different governing board. PAs are under the medical doctors. I'm under the nursing board. Which one's better deal to have? I like nursing better than medical, but I've also been in a nurse for almost 30 years. Yeah, so why?
Starting point is 00:01:05 Over 30 years. So good. I didn't know that. Did you girls know that? No, I did not. I did not. I thought a physician's assistant was higher than you. Nope.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Just because it says physician. That's the only reason why. Do not be deceived. Which I was. See, that's why knowledge is power. It ends. That's why I studied the word yeah I'll make you be powerful we're gonna go straight to sponsors really quick and then we're gonna go right into everything because we only have uh just like an hour and then she's gonna be gone poof just like
Starting point is 00:01:40 that so and then listen while we're doing doing, like I have a list of questions, but while we're doing this podcast, send in your questions if you want. And we'll try and answer them as they come in. First come, first serve. Okay. Perfect. All right. So here's our sponsors. You got, thank you, darling.
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Starting point is 00:04:24 Because I got another flat tire. Oh, no. Mm-hmm. It's all the construction on your road. I'm blowing that burp that way to save you. I had chili for lunch. Don't worry. My nose is stuffy.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh, thank God. No, I got another. I hit another pothole. It blew a hole in the rim, or not in my rim, in the, what is that, sidewall of your tire? Yeah, the sidewall was ripped apart. Oh my gosh, that was a fiasco, let me just tell you. My poor husband. If God isn't there to protect you, I'm going to tell you this story very quickly.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Please do. Tuesday night, no, Wednesday night, coming home from here. After the podcast, me and Tracy and the team stayed late because we were pow-wowing about some stuff. Then I go to Publix. I pick up some Fair Life for my husband because he loves it and some other stuff and uh then i'm turning onto our road not to one of the main roads river road turning onto river road off of 41 and i hit a pothole after i had been stopped i hit a pothole and do you not know that tore my tore my whole tire up. So I pull into this parking lot that's near my house.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And do you not know Tom comes walking out of the woods with the dog at the same time I'm pulling in? Oh, my goodness. It's ridiculous. Your life should be a reality show. I wish. I would watch it. Me too. Me three. I could not believe it watch it. Me too. Me three.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I could not believe it. Yeah. What are the odds of that? Not. Never. Because you know how many times Tom's done that? Yeah. Never.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Right. I was going to say zero. Zero. Zero. He said to me, he's like, if that was not a miraculous God ordained situation. Because I was going to have to walk all the way home in my little high heel boots. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Oh my goodness. No. Never. I won't even tell you what happened while we were trying to change that tire. It was a mess. It was a hot flipping mess. The whole car fell onto the ground.
Starting point is 00:06:40 The jack went. Oh my gosh. Yeah. How big was the pothole? Because it was in the grass. My whole car went. How big was the pothole? Because it was in the grass. My whole car went. Did you hit the pothole on River Road? I hit the pothole on River Road that you first turn on to.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I hit it the other day heading out that way. And my husband, I was on the phone with my husband. He goes, oh, my gosh, did your airbag go off? That's a bad pothole. It's that big. There's two, like, right by each other. Oh, I only hit one of them. I didn't know there It's that big. There's two right by each other. Oh, I only hit one of them. I didn't know there was two of them.
Starting point is 00:07:06 There's two. Well, me and Tom went by it, but mine wasn't that big. There must be another one that's really big that I've got to watch out for. I'm contacting them. It's bad. It was bad. So your tire lasted. But seriously, then we had to figure out the man had to race home
Starting point is 00:07:26 on his bike get the jack a hydraulic jack it was a whole thing man he never looked hotter he was saving the day yeah oh man i was like you are my freaking hero kid you not it was like beast mode he got that thing he got that tire it's like it's like how do you know this is gonna i don't know it's gonna work see but we're gonna make it work exactly holy crap it's amazing but yeah don't change a tire in grass he knew it wasn't going he's like this is very shaky and shady to do this i'm like really he's like yeah because it's not stable ground right you knew that tracy yes i had no. I haven't changed that. I mean, I changed two tires in my whole life. Yeah. Which I did pretty good. Did you? Oh, I did pretty good when I changed them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 One was just recently in Tampa with my son. Oh, my gosh. She was in beast mode, too. But yeah, how many tires have you changed tracy i've changed zero tires i've only how did you know about grass because because it's soft you knew that it can make the grass it can make the i know my i would have never known that i know a car is very heavy and i know that grass can sink i've worn high heels into grass and it has sunk in very quickly so my thought would be is that a car would probably sink. Never in a million years. Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 As soon as you told me, I'm like, yeah, that totally makes sense. Do you know he MacGyvered that? Do you know what he did? He went home so that he, because we're not going to need two, the two, whatever you call those things, jacks. He knew he had to stick with that one and then he brought the hydraulic one back with him but he brought a saw a saw that you saw with a manual
Starting point is 00:09:15 saw he brought the saw and once he got the car up and he got the other jack he put the the one that got smashed, he put that one on the saw to stabilize it. I was like, how in the world did you think, would you think to bring a saw blade? No, I would have thought like a piece of plywood. Me too. We didn't have any plywood around. Yeah, that's what I would have thought. I don't have any plywood. So literally, yeah, I would have thought just bring a two by four or something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:44 No, we don't have any of that sitting around. So I'm like, how in the world did you think to bring a slob of ladies? Like, I don't know. I just like was like, what do we get? Always be reactivate. Like MacGyver, man. Yeah. I always liked MacGyver.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I did like MacGyver. Well, it was kind of cheesy. I watched a little bit of it. But tricks, you know, whatever. But yeah, pretty crazy. So yeah, I just spent some time with Nick again today. Done me well. As always, takes great care of his customers.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I seem to be a permanent one. Always there. Good thing I'm good friends with the guy. Otherwise, it would be quite uncomfortable. But let's go straight into the questions because you really didn't care about my situation. But I'm going to share it anyway because that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Okay, so the reason I had, my situation but I'm gonna share it anyway because that's what I do okay so the reason I had I have Natalie a lot of you guys know who she is now they run through your credentials really quick just in case there's any newbies that don't know who you are you're everybody on this panel's physician like nurse practitioner yep we we have hired you because you have your own business so make sure you add all of that in there when you give us your credentials go ahead so hi i'm natalie iverson i'm a family nurse practitioner and i own my own business as she said it's called saved by grace integrative wellness center
Starting point is 00:10:57 where i'm looking at more holistic approach to your health care and i come to you. You don't have to go to a brick and mortar. I come to you or you can just do telehealth. Yeah. Which is fantastic. How many years have you been doing it? Nurse practitioner. This will be nine years this year. And other than that, I've been in the medical field nursing since I was like 16. There you go. You know what you're talking about. What I do love is that you're not big pharma. No. You're opposite of that, which is every doctor that we've ever had for our family, which we've never really gone to the doctor,
Starting point is 00:11:37 to be honest with you. But one of the things that we did when we were picking a doctor was we made sure that they weren't big on prescribing antibiotics, pain medications, things like that. Like there's, they're just not, and not big on making sure that your children have vaccinations for everything. Cause we weren't big on all of that as well. So there's a lot of people us like us out there, but no, they don't know if anybody to go to,
Starting point is 00:12:02 because there's not very many of you out there. Right. It's a rare thing. So you're like a diamond in a rough. Thank God. So now that you know her credentials, when she talks about something, check her out so you can have trust in what she says. But we already planned on you coming. But one of the things that I remember this month, and you probably remember me texting it to you
Starting point is 00:12:26 because you were like, yeah, I know that, which I knew you knew that, knew what I'm going to talk about, but I was like, you were like less shocked than I thought you would be because it's like common knowledge, which it's not common knowledge for people like us. It's just common knowledge for people like you,
Starting point is 00:12:42 which you guys need to know this, which is um probably something you probably already have because it's a joe rogan kind of thing right now everybody's talking about it but in case you don't you're not on social media and you don't understand what's going on out there there's a big thing right now where um which might affect me with facebook but mark zuckerberg said he's turned a new page so we'll we'll see here's the true test yeah um so right now what I would do besides saying say call it the c-word because if you call it the c-word yeah but you're going to talk about the three things I will but you still have to
Starting point is 00:13:18 call it the c-word okay so we're going to call it the c-word okay so um okay so there are three things so on this podcast um what was i discovered were there were three things that you can take possibly four because they talked about one other thing but i don't know if it's in combined combination a combination of the other three but there were three things that this one guy that was on there, and I won't mention his name only because it might trigger us because I said, you know, the guy's, the J.R. name, Joe's name, last name, what they were talking about is this one guy had three friends,
Starting point is 00:14:00 all of them had stage four, and all of them by taking these three things plus this one other thing. One guy took an extra thing. I can't remember what it was. I think he said he took an extra thing. He took four things. Stage four, completely gone. Never did any of the prototypical things that the medical field will tell you to take. All gone. No signs, no traces, nothing. Completely cured. Tell everybody what these three things are.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's shocking because they're all like ready and available. First one's ivermectin. Second one is fenbendazole. Third one, which I'm kind of more new about hearing it, but I knew about it, it's methylene blue. That one was the one I was like, something blue. Yeah, methylene blue. There are a couple of others.
Starting point is 00:14:56 There's soursop tea and apricot seeds are huge components of taking the help with the big C. Um, and it's funny cause after you texted me, of course, you know how your phone knows when you talk about stuff. Um, there was a thing on X that popped up and it was a whole interview on a guy. Um, he was an ex Marine who was told he had stage four, um, colon. They did the surgery. They cut out an 18 centimeter tumor. He ended up with an ileostomy bag. You know, he couldn't even keep anything down. He was losing weight. They did radiation. They did chemo. He called his sister because they told him there was nothing else that they can do. So he called his two sisters. One of them was,
Starting point is 00:15:39 quote unquote, his crazy sister, his crazy Christian sister. And she was like, no, we're not going to have that. You're going to call this guy. I know this guy. He takes Fembendazole. And him and his other sister were laughing, saying, oh, she's just crazy. So he was driving back from Moffitt. He lives in Marco Island. And while he was on I-75 and after he hung up with them, he was listening to his own thoughts. And then he called his sister back, got the name of the guy. The guy is completely gone. Everything's gone. He's eating. He's able to gain weight. He's still alive. And he was actually going home on hospice. So yeah, there's things out there. I think, you know, unfortunately, it's a big moneymaker. Yes. Huge, huge moneymaker. And most people, when they're in that situation and being told that this is what they have, they just go for whatever the doctor.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah, whatever that doctor is telling them to do. There's places in Mexico you can go. This guy that he called and talked to is actually his brother-in-law was a big, huge person down in Brazil. I mean, most other countries know about all this other stuff there's also a huge it's I think still in clinical trials for menbendazole which is a form of a menbendazole and it is showing that it does cure cancer but big pharma has got their hands on it and in in order for you to even get it, your insurance isn't going to pay for it. And it's so wickedly expensive. Why is it this?
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's so wickedly expensive because they want to make sure nobody can get it. Pretty much. It's evil. It is evil. The love of money is the root of all evil. So these other like we know ivermectin is nothing. It's like costs nothing to get. Pretty much. I mean, you have to do higher doses than you would normally take yeah because it has to it all depends on
Starting point is 00:17:31 you know your weight and what you're taking it for there are protocols out there i think it's the flccc has a protocol um i do have a copy of the fembendazole protocol. On top of all of that, you know, fasting is a big, big thing. Because when you fast, your body's already been created to go after bad cells. So when you fast, you put yourself into that status and state so that your body goes after the cancer cells. The other one is no sugar at all. Cancer loves sugar. It eats it. That's how it thrives.
Starting point is 00:18:14 That's nuts. I heard that about sugar for cancer. Like people think, well, I'm eating, I'm not eating a candy bar. I'm eating crackers. Crackers are sugar. Pure sugar. Pure sugar. When your body breaks it down, it's pure sugar.
Starting point is 00:18:29 So yeah, carnivore diet, you know, go more toward a keto diet. Another thing that a lot of people are doing are high doses of vitamin C, IV. High, high doses of vitamin C. I mean, to the point where, unfortunately, your back end knows you're taking high doses of vitamin C. It just flushes it out. where unfortunately your back end knows you're taking high doses of vitamin C. It just flushes it out. Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:53 How about coffee enemas? Did you hear what she said? Yeah, yeah, I heard what she said. We discussed this before. They are actually really good, Clonix, because it helps get the toxins out she asked what about coffee enemas yeah okay go ahead so yeah doing them helps get toxins out yeah along with the clonics um yeah i mean a lot of you know they say your your main source of immunity comes from your gut if your gut's not happy the rest of you is not gonna be happy that is so interesting very
Starting point is 00:19:25 interesting like fasting fasting fasting within there I have I'm trying to remember where I wrote the break whoop I dropped you guys the breakdown of what happens like after 24 hours after 48 hours you put yourself in what's called a top of tea and that's when your body actually breaks down the can, the salad itself and eats it. Yeah. And it's gone. So if you fasted, like, so it's not like one meal a day fasting, it'd be over a long period of time fasting. Yeah, usually it's like a three or four day water fast. And then when you go to eat again, you need to just make sure you're doing more of a keto diet,
Starting point is 00:20:07 more of a just all protein diet, no sugar at all. Interesting. Okay. And they're finding people that do that, like can't, the C word is gone. Yeah, that Marine, he never changed his appointments, his follow-up appointments with Moffitt. So he started the protocol. And I think on his protocol, he did curcumin, which is an anti-inflammatory. He did famotidine, which is like your main ingredient, and tagament, which, by the way, the big farmer took off the market.
Starting point is 00:20:38 You can't even get tagament anymore. He did that. And then one other one, I can't remember what it is. But anyway, when he went back for his six-week follow-up, they said it was like half the size. And then when he went back again, it was completely gone. Wow. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It's out there. It's out there. You just have to find a different provider who's going to listen to you and get you to get your hands on it. And how hard is it to get your hands on this stuff? It's not that hard. Just got to know the people. That's the problem because there's not a lot of you out there.
Starting point is 00:21:14 A lot of people count the cost and they have contracts with hospitals and all these things that bind them to, well, they've agreed, I guess. They have a contract, so they kind of are now, there's legalities behind it. So I don't know if they could even, I don't think, could they even do with, they would have to do with the protocol for the hospital is, or whoever they're contractually bound to, correct? Correct. Until they totally sever that relationship, which means you have to let your contract bound to, correct? Correct. Until they totally sever that relationship,
Starting point is 00:21:45 which means you have to let your contract run out, correct? Correct. Yeah, so they don't really have an option. And most of these treatments are not covered by your insurance, and a lot of these people are relying on their insurance. They don't have the extra money. Yeah, but this isn't that expensive in comparison to what you're talking about and having to pay.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But they don't know that. Just like regular medicine, right? You know, a lot of people think insurance itself is good. It's going to save them. It's going to save them, but it's insanity. I mean, I think, what was it, in the 90s, insurance changed completely when they started HMOs. You remember back in the 90s, you're like me, back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, I'm older than you, yeah, but. Not by much but you you when you bought insurance it covered everything it covered it you didn't even have a co-pay no you didn't have co-insurance you didn't have okay you owe uh we only pay 80 you pay 20 I mean when they you got insurance it was cheap and it covered everything and then they brought in the big deal of hey can you do me a favor and just turn that air condition up a little bit, please? But then they brought in the thing of, we're going to do HMO and PPO. And you're going to love it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 No, that's not. HMO covers 100%. And then you find out it doesn't cover 100%. And you get crappy doctors. You get the doctors. Correct. You get the doctors that nobody else wants because nobody else, they barely got through medical school probably.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Well, not just that. The problem is when you sign up for an HMO, the amount of reimbursement you get back from the insurance company is barely enough to keep your lights on. So Medicare and Medicaid, right, your federal insurance, barely get any money back when you do a procedure.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Hence the reason why commercial insurance, when you have a commercial insurance and you have something done, you're paying a whole bunch more because you're actually taking over and covering what they cannot afford. Correct. Yeah, that makes complete sense. That is exactly, yeah. The ins and outs. Yeah, that is exactly what it is because that is so logical. And everybody thinks, like I've had family go in and say, I will pay out of pocket to have my kid. And I had insurance.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And they walk out paying less than I did. And they literally paid. They didn't go in and have Medicaid pay for their baby. They literally said, we'll just pay for it ourselves. We'll, you know, we're- Cash pay. Cash pay. So whatever it is, just tell us what it is and we'll pay it.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It's not a problem. It's going to fall out again. I know what it is because I have glasses on. Oh. And it's going to hurt. No, let me just remove my glasses. And it wasn't an issue to pay it.
Starting point is 00:24:33 They, they just, they're, they owned their own business. So. Yeah. It's just the way it was. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:24:38 yeah, we'll just do cash pay. It's okay. They paid far less to have that kid than what I paid. With insurance. With insurance. You want to talk about mad I paid. With insurance. With insurance. You want to talk about mad? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Oh, yeah. They're like, that's one of the reasons why we don't even bother. Because what you pay monthly versus us just, we don't. And we never go to the doctor. So they're like, we don't go to the doctor. So it would be a waste of money for us. Let alone if we ever need to go we can pay for it it's not that big of a deal
Starting point is 00:25:06 yeah especially if you tell people that your cash pay you get a discount you would think that an MRI because your insurance tells you you have to pay $350 as your deductible for an MRI whereas if you pay cash for an MRI it's like $250 no way
Starting point is 00:25:22 no I'm dead serious it's very cheap compared to what you think it is. Yeah. And they're not like, oh, we feel bad for you. You're poor. They're not getting a you're poor discount. No. This is what you're paying.
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's nuts. I literally have told Tom, you know what? It's outside of catastrophic care. I mean, because catastrophic, I feel like there's some sense of responsibility there. Correct. Outside of that, no way. I'm not paying for insurance.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Screw that. Yeah, we dropped ours because my husband, I'm not kidding you, we're paying almost $30,000 a year for health insurance for three people. And you don't go to the doctor. No. And when I had my husband, I'm not kidding you, we're paying almost $30,000 a year for health insurance for three people. And you don't go to the doctor. No. And when I had my surgeries, how much we had to pay out of pocket and you still had insurance.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And supposedly his was paid at 100%. So he was paying almost $30,000 for me and my daughter. So we dropped it and ended up getting catastrophic ourselves. Yeah. It's just not even. It's not worth it. No. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And what I pay to have catastrophic care is nothing. Nothing. It's nothing. Yeah, yeah. I have the same. It's nuts, man. It's crazy. So let's go to this.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Is there other things that people that are like this, that people just like other options and alternatives? Because when you do what the protocol is for the big C, it's not good for you. It's like killing the good things along with the bad things. Like when it's done outside of God, restoring certain things in your body, it kills things off.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Correct. So what are the other alternatives that people don't know about for other things that... There are so many. So if you find out the root causes for a lot of things, even thyroid, hypothyroidism, a lot of what they're saying nowadays and they're finding out is most women by the time
Starting point is 00:27:32 they're in their 30s end up with a hypothyroid and they're finding that it correlates with birth control. You mess around with hormones, what's going to happen? Your thyroid is considered a hormone pretty much, right? So unfortunately, you end up pretty much killing it from all the chemicals that you're using for birth control.
Starting point is 00:27:52 That's one of the reasons why I never did birth control. I tried it and I almost killed somebody. Oh, really? You did not do good with it. I did not. I am a redhead through and through. Redhead, yeah. For me, I've been a person of, like, I'm not altering my body.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. And I'm not, like, I'm not going to have surgery to alter my body, and I'm not going to take chemicals. I'll do whatever means is necessary, but I'm not putting chemicals in my body. I didn't use it. I'm not big on taking aspirin, you a cold, and taking a Sudafed. I'm more like, get on your knees, start praying it through. True.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And do what you got to do to get the job done at the end of the day. And if you fail, it'll be failure with trying to succeed, not failure with just knowing that you've been defeated. Yeah. I didn't want to take birth control because all I heard from the women around me was that you gain weight. Oh. So I did.
Starting point is 00:28:48 As if. True. As if. I mean, I was already a little chunky. I didn't want to get more chunky. True. What is that? I was already a little chunky.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I didn't want to get more chunky. A little chunky? Oh. Vanessa. I was thick with two Cs. There you go. There you go. Vanessa. I was thick with two C's. There you go. There you go. Listen,
Starting point is 00:29:09 from one thick sister to another, which we both have lost a huge amount of weight, I'm just saying, from one thick sister to another, that should not have been a concern of yours about taking birth control
Starting point is 00:29:20 because of potential weight gain. It was 100% my concern. I think you were already there. Each thigh would have said hello. Right. I didn't want to get that pillow. It was, it was going down.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Did not want to make it worse. I'm going to be like, what's new? But yeah, but that was my only concern. Fair. Oh my gosh. Vanessa's best friend is in here from,
Starting point is 00:29:44 from, from the same here from the same hood. She's pointing to herself as if, well, you're skinny girl. In comparison to Vanessa. Get the photo out. Nothing personal, but pretty much anybody was skinny. I'm 30. I deserve that yeah i deserve having a cocktail god's paying me back for that one you gotta see pictures it's night and day yeah i mean i it's true it's true you took your health seriously i did you made some changes i didn didn't get on the birth control. People should do that. Like, start working out.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Some people don't want to. I'm sorry, but we live in an instant society. That's true. And we expect immediate results. And when we don't get immediate results, we quit. Yep. True. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But I'm just saying to you, like, that's insanity, which you agree with me. But I was there. I watched her. You didn't know her when she first came to the church and how big she was. I watched her drop the pounds. That was hard, Vanessa.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You lost a lot. How much weight did you lose? I think altogether about 70 pounds. Good for you. That's so much weight. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care what anybody says.
Starting point is 00:31:08 That is a huge monster achievement. It is. It is not easy. And she did it by watching everything she ate. Yeah. Yeah. That's not. And then she was working out after she lost the weight
Starting point is 00:31:21 and could actually physically walk and not have pain and something like that like that's i'm sorry but that says a lot of volumes about somebody that i have higher levels of respect when people can drop weight like that and um thank you it's not done the easy way it's done the hard way which listen even doing it the hard way ain't easy either. No, but perseverance. It's huge. Huge. Yeah. And I mean, seriously, come a long freaking way.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Vanessa, I love Vanessa for many reasons, but that's one of the things I sit there and go, that speaks volumes about that chick. Thank you. Because I know how hard it was just losing 25. Can't imagine adding another like 50 to that. I don't know if I could have done it. That's just God's honest truth.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's some serious stamina. And the first part of my journey was due to juicing and coffee enemas. That's where it began. You're going to start coughing again? No.
Starting point is 00:32:36 That's why she's always commercial i know i keep it real that's what launched it i saw an infomercial about a juicer and it was montel williams talking about he juices and i said i could juice and then juicing was like a gateway drug you know juicy opens up to coffee enemas and then to supplements and then you know just taking care of my body hey listen that one thing that one uh way of that lifestyle eating that you guys did where it was like proteins it was um it was those bars that you did oh yeah obtivia that was not easy no that wasn't that was not easy that was dedication man yeah pure willpower it's actually very clean and healthy way. It's very clean. It's one of the cleaner options for, it's not a dietary thingy. They don't call it dietary.
Starting point is 00:33:34 What do they call that thing? Because there was, it was supplements, it was shakes, protein shakes. It was meal replacements, yeah. So it was very clean. A lot of people did it but a lot of people i didn't weren't successful they she's totally stayed it's hard it's very low calorie
Starting point is 00:33:52 someone in the chat said how often should one do a coffee enema i have done i didn't think they were bad i actually felt a hundred like percent yeah percent better yeah after i mean they give you energy oh yeah the the caffeine caffeine i mean you know how much i love caffeine so two of the fastest routes i just got in a different way well that's the thing two of the fastest routes of absorption is under your tongue sublingual and the other one is rectum oh there you go you're right absolutely right I don't remember how often I did them listen when you have to get those suckers like because you're pregnant
Starting point is 00:34:31 I wouldn't overdo it I mean if you do it like maybe maintenance like every three months four months I was doing more than that I was too I was too I think I was a once a week. I was too. I was too.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I think I was a once a week or a short period of time. Oh my gosh. Me and Vanessa would be like. Oh, you guys did it together? Oh yeah. Well, not in the same room. Well, no. I wasn't saying that.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Thank you for clarifying that. We see each other at church. This friendship runs deep. Coffee enema. Peace. Peace. Doing great. Did you do yours this week?
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yep. Flying high. Got none. Flying high. Feeling good. It's probably more information than people want to know about us. A month and a half, two months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It was a little. I mean, I don't think that's bad if you're like doing it to begin with. But then after you get where you're at, I think maintenance wise. Detox. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good detox. You're cleaning, I think maintenance wise. Detox. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good detox. You're cleaning everything out.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, 100%. That was, Clonix, same thing. You clean everything out because stuff gets stuck in there. Yeah. Interesting. You know what?
Starting point is 00:35:37 We're going to keep going, but you know what? I found out, I think, I don't know if it was you or it was Sarah, that we were talking about how people get constipated and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And then when they finally go to the bathroom, but if it's like diarrhea or whatever, diarrhea is from constipation. Because you're like, got to clean everything out. It's the body's way of cleaning out somebody who's been constipated. So if you get diarrhea a lot, it's stress, right? It can be. It can be stress.
Starting point is 00:36:11 So it's not always because you're constipated. But if you're constipated a lot, that's the reason why you have diarrhea. That's why it's usually like intertwined constipation, diarrhea. It's like you have both. IBS. Really? Okay, I didn't know that part but but when i heard that that makes complete sense that's where coffee enema comes in handy 100 you might get less you might get less uh diarrhea i'm just saying i don't know i've never done a enema coffee you should try try it. You should. You'll love it.
Starting point is 00:36:45 I am bad with coffee anyway. I get like shakes and everything. So I don't know if I should do. No, don't do it. No. Like if I was to do that Red Bull. Not me. This is not God hardly.
Starting point is 00:36:58 This is like a cup of coffee. It's only eight ounces. Yeah, no. Yeah, I think it's got like 86. I would be like bouncing off the walls. My heart would be racing. No, really? Yeah. It's i think it's got like 86 i would be like bouncing off the walls my heart would be racing no really yeah it's only it's one cup it's a little over a cup nope can't do them natalie what if you're pretty regular would you do a coffee enema like like you said you never have i mean you can i mean it's really good as like a flushing out of the system. Right. Yeah, that's fine. All right. So if the thyroid,
Starting point is 00:37:27 if somebody else wants to know about coffee enemas, let me know. But to go back to this, because it just popped into my head. So if thyroid issues tend to be because, for women, tend to be because of taking birth control. What are other issues that people might have?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Give me just one other. We'll keep putting our phone number up there so that if you're looking for a new medical professional, you can reach out to her. What would be one other, so I can get to some of the other questions what would be one other disease or issue with an organ that would be caused by something else that is an easy fix without having to take a chemically based pharmaceutical drug off the top of your head unless you can't think of one then
Starting point is 00:38:26 that's okay because we'll move to more and more studies are showing MS is caused by parasites what yeah really mm-hmm like what kind of parasites just all kinds like worms and stuff in the person's body? Mm-hmm. What is it? Eating away at their muscles? In the brain? The brain? Mm-hmm. The stem of the brain? Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:49 What? Yeah. Wow. Listen, you know other countries. Tracy, your parasites that you talk to all the time and tell you what to eat, you're screwed. I need another parasite cleanse. You need to get rid of those.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Listen. Do you know other countries? We're the only country that does not do parasite cleanses. Most other countries do at least a minimum of three a year. And it's recommended that you do three to four. For some reason, Americans seem to think we're too clean, we're too sophisticated. Hygienically advanced.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Correct. Advanced that we don't need to do that. But you really are supposed to do them. Isn't ivermectin like, because that's why in Africa they take it so for malaria. Correct. Things like that,
Starting point is 00:39:31 which is a parasite, correct? Correct. That's what I thought. They had low levels of COVID in, oh, the C word, I said it. That's okay. I think we've gone too far anyway. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:39:42 They had low levels of COVID during the pandemic. Africa. Well, even people who had, what's the word I'm thinking of? Rheumatoid arthritis. And they were on hydroxychloroquine. You know, they never got COVID. Wow. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And people who smoked. Plaquenil. They were taking Plaquenil. Didn't get COVID either. What? A lot of smokers were not. Well, here's the new thing out. Did you know that nicotine is
Starting point is 00:40:08 actually good for you? Stop it. Don't say that. Well, here's the thing. Cigarettes are bad. Cigarettes are bad because they put in a ton of chemicals, right? Everything they spray the tobacco leaves with and everything. And fiberglass. Correct. And the filters. Well, that's mostly for menthol because I used to smoke.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Fiberglass is in your menthol cigarettes. Oh, it's not in all of them. I thought it was in all of them. No, it's mostly for menthol because I used to smoke. Fiberglass is in your menthol cigarettes. Oh, it's not in all of them. I thought it was in all of them. No, it's mostly in your menthol. That's because I used to smoke for a long time. What was the new, what was those called? Newports. Newports?
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah, Newports, Camels. All my friends smoked Newports. Oh, no, I smoked menthol. I couldn't stand the taste, but I like to smoke because it kept me awake at night when I worked night shifts. That and coffee. So that's why I know I can't do coffee. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:52 But Newports have menthol in them, right? Yeah, I mean, you can get them without menthol. But nicotine, our body has nicotine receptors in the body. So nicotine is actually one of the treatments they use for long covid i know that's why they were telling smokers to stop smoking during covid oh wow well not just that you know they want to decrease the amount of nicotine in cigarettes now because now there's more studies coming out showing that nicotine actually just nicotine not the chemicals and the cigarettes just the nicotine itself is actually really good at helping with a whole bunch of different.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I mean, unfortunately, they sound like rabbit holes that we're all going down. But there's a different medical community out there that's actually Dr. Perry Corey. He is he's amazing. He's one of the ones that stood up during COVID. And he, you know, a lot of his ones that stood up during COVID and he, you know, a lot of his stuff that you read on him is just insane. And then there's a chiropractor, Brian Artis, if you ever heard of him talks about nicotine big time and how.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But isn't nicotine come from like the leaf? So it's a kind of a natural product. So you would think because of that, I mean, obviously if it's not has, if it doesn't have any additives, then it can stay pretty pure. It's not like the hemp, correct? Well, hemp's actually not bad for you either. I mean, it's, it's the, it's not the hemp. That's the bad part. It's the THC that's in marijuana that's the hallucinogenic. So if you get marijuana and you take it and you break it down and you just get the CBD or hemp, hemp is used for making ropes and a whole bunch of other stuff. They don't really even do anything with hemp itself.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's more CBD. CBD is good for you as well. It's the THC that's in CBD that causes the euphoric feeling and the psychedelic. Again, it's a plant. God created the plant. It's what you do with that plant after it's done. Correct. And now that they breed it more and more, I mean, because there are super strains of marijuana that are out there that it's like totally like poof like I mean
Starting point is 00:43:06 like bad really yeah but CBD is actually good for you well they're proving that CBD is doing a lot of really good things for even people with Parkinson's Parkinson which is another disease with an alternative to a cleaner product versus all of the pharmaceutical drugs that they give for you to try and help you with that, which I really don't see. Well, now they have a new thing coming out with Parkinson's. It's actually like a stimulator. And what is that? Like an implanted stimulator, like a pacemaker,
Starting point is 00:43:40 to kind of help it. It aggravates the muscle itself. Shocks it back into how it's supposed to work yeah it decreases how much like you do you shake and stuff interesting that's very interesting there's tons of stuff out there it's just i literally we got 16 minutes left and i know everybody like there's some no no no no no no there are like there are so many huh the comment section is blowing up there are so many yeah there's so many different things that we could talk about which she's always um on here I mean she we always bring her back but that's because of this because most people just don't know what they don't know right and thank
Starting point is 00:44:21 god we're blessed because she's our friend so we can talk about this whenever we want with her. But you guys can't. Like most people don't have access to a you. They just don't. So for me, yeah, I feel lucky she's my friend and like I can pick that brain.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But she gets to pick my brain. And let me tell you, there's a lot going on in there too. Yeah. It may not be as a value. No, it is. Yours is like more, you're like a lot going on in there, too. Yeah. It may not be as a value. No, it is. Yours is like more, you're like a walking Bible. True.
Starting point is 00:44:48 True. Compared to me? Well, all I can say is we laugh a lot. When we talk about what's in this, there's a lot of laughter. Here, it's like a lot of things that make you go hmm you know so now this one it's gonna be a excuse my language ball buster for a lot of people they are not gonna like this one oh yeah so hold on to your hats especially Vanessa oh I'm holding okay Okay, so Botox, right? We talked about it last time.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah, we did. Botox is super special right now. But I just saw something that literally says that it is harmful for your brain, which we did not talk about this. I recently saw a doctor, and I think I sent this to you. Did I send this to you
Starting point is 00:45:46 and say, maybe I saw it and I was like, what the crap? Because I know people who take Botox. I do too. For the record, I don't take Botox. No, she doesn't take Botox. No, no, no. What was funny is because me and Vanessa talk about it. Like, we literally
Starting point is 00:46:02 it was one of the things we were like, huh. You know, there's a really good peptide out there that helps tell me about it. That we literally, it was one of the things we were like, huh. You know, there's a really good peptide out there that helps. Tell me about it. That's why we have her. All ears. It's G-H-K-C-U
Starting point is 00:46:14 and within eight weeks, hooded eyes, gone. What? It helps with collagen. Oh yeah, listen, I've been really getting
Starting point is 00:46:21 into the peptides lately. Peptides. Which, did you know peptides is a protein? Sign me up. Yeah, and. Which, did you know peptides is a protein? Sign me up. Yeah. And peptides, did you know that Robert Kennedy Jr. is all for peptides?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Heck, yeah. Like, already. So we really, really need to get him confirmed. Yeah. And they're saying, although they're not happy about it, he's probably getting confirmed. Yay. Praise the Lord. That's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Thank you, God. I'm not 100% sure, but that's what I'm hearing. All right. J.D. Vance just recently said, I think it was yesterday or the day before, he's pretty sure they're going to get them all confirmed. But it's going to be a fight to the finish. I'm sure it is. I mean, have you watched any of that?
Starting point is 00:46:53 That's insanity. I just want to, like, throw up. I never normally do, but for some reason, yesterday, I think it was yesterday or the day before, I actually was able to take some stuff in while I was working. And, man, I'm telling you right now, I loved, because, you know, they had RFK in the hot seat two days. I love Kash Patel.
Starting point is 00:47:17 He was giving it as much as they were getting it. And so did Tulsi. Tulsi just like, but all of them, RFK calling out Bernie Sanders on taking a pharmaceutical and all of them in the pocket. He's like, all of you guys are in the pocket. Yeah. And he said, Bernie, you were the highest one in 2020. He was getting like $1.5 million from big pharma.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It's ridiculous. But Botox is dangerous because they are finding that the chemicals in Botox are affecting the brain. Can you tell how that it's affecting the brain? Cause it's not good. Well, a lot of what they're finding out is, you know how it freezes your brain, it freezes your facial muscles. So when it freezes your facial muscles, your brain actually learns from your, your, your facial changes. So this is what I've read. So the movement of the face is how the brain perceives a lot of emotional stuff, right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 Okay. So this is what I read up on because I had no clue until you sent me the question and I was like, what? I mean, we talked last time. This is like brand new out. Yeah, so we talked last time about how it's botulism and there's a whole bunch of vast majority
Starting point is 00:48:23 of side effects that can happen and if you if you take more than a tad more than you're supposed to you can cause like necrosis and a whole bunch of other things um you could end up just even causing your face never to move again paralysis i mean but it doesn't work for other things like headaches and you know hyperhidrosis when you're sweating a whole bunch. It does work on that stuff. It does work with some Parkinson's as well. Like if you have one calf bigger than the other, they'll put it in that calf because it eventually causes atrophy. So then your calves could actually end up being the same size.
Starting point is 00:48:57 There's a whole bunch of things that it can work for. But when you're doing it like on a constant basis, like say for your face. Plus it's so close to the brain. That it's causing, they're finding that it's causing emotional and some other development in the brain because your brain actually works off of your facial features. That's what I read up on. I'm sure there's more out there.
Starting point is 00:49:17 It's not just emotional. I wish I would have sent this to you. It's not emotional. And what they're saying is it's causing to the level of the C word in brains. Oh, I'm sure if you keep using it, it builds up over a period of time, just like with the Vs, right? The pokey pokes that kids get after a while of getting all that stuff you build up on your aluminum and all your other horrible things that are in there you build up and if your body can't detoxify detox it out of it then your body builds up uh like a whole like a
Starting point is 00:49:58 system where you're you just can't even work anymore yeah i think i saved it i'll show it to you you can't methylate it out of your body. And there's people that have an issue when I talked about it before the MTHFR, they have an issue with methylation. And if you can't methylate out things in your body, then you cause to be at a toxic level and the cause that it can cause a whole bunch of other problems as well. Really? Yeah. That is very, very well. When I saw that, I'm going to find the video and send it to you. I thought to myself, somebody needs to be, your ears are too small, you need a different in-ear thingy. I think my ears are just too small.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, probably. Well, for me, nobody's talking about that part. And I had never heard that it was as dangerous as it was. I had never heard that. So I accidentally put it on Tom's, uh, one of Tom's stories instead of mine. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And then I took it off cause I was like, Holy crap. That's not, that's his account, not mine account. And then I couldn't find it. So, but I think I might've found it and saved it,
Starting point is 00:51:03 but, um, I thought I sent it to you, but it, it, people need to know about this stuff. Like I'm not a big, do I believe that,
Starting point is 00:51:13 like you shouldn't walk in fear or anything like that? Absolutely. But what I am saying, what, but I will tell you is as I drink a Red Bull, that what you might want to do is before you, but I have investigated Red Bull. When I first started drinking, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:51:33 how stupid is this of me to drink this? But if you look at Botox, I sit there and go, how does that weigh out? How far am I going to have to extend my faith if I do this? Because I'm going to have to believe, like, this is not going to harm me. And I think people need to think about that stuff. Like, if you're going to do certain things, you need to, like, do I have the faith that when people come up and tell me that that causes this,
Starting point is 00:52:02 this, and this, I can sit there and go, no, I can't, because I've already bound that away from my body. come up and tell me that that causes this this and this i can sit there and go no i can't because i've already bound that away from my body and i mean people do that that seeds get planted are you able to make sure that you can uproot those seeds that's a big question most people and here never think that far in advance well and then most people think that if it worked for this one it's going to work for me and not everybody is made up like I spoke last time. We're not all made up the same way. Your chemical makeup is a little bit different than mine, whether it's your blood type or, you know, this gene, that gene, whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Red hair, blonde head. So whatever it is, what works for you may not work for me or works for me may not work for you. And that's when allergies come in or you can have adverse reactions just because one person takes it and they're doing fine doesn't mean that the next person's going to be fine. That's true. Now, the thing is, there is an
Starting point is 00:52:49 alternative. Oh, yeah. I really got it. We really got to get that one. There's an alternative, so maybe there is hope for me and Vanessa. Yes. It helps with collagen. That's my thing, the collagen. Well, as you get older, you automatically stop producing.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Right. I pre-reverse aging. Oh, yeah. All the time. Amen. All the time. I stand on that one. But the collagen right there is like huge.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I'm telling you, this one's supposed to be amazing within eight weeks. We don't have it in any of our food. Eight weeks? We don't have eight weeks. You don't have like the hooded eyes anymore. Wrinkles start to fade. Do I have hooded eyes? eyes i do see how they like they drop i am yours no yeah you have a little little bit not much what about you tracy now everybody's looking at their eyes to see if they're hooded vanessa and tracy over there do i have little eyes i feel like i could so maybe i'll start gosh. I have potential of hooded eyes.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Exactly. Okay. Does anybody have any questions over there before I keep going to mine? Beef tallow for collagen? Question mark. No, it's not for collagen. It doesn't really help produce like collagen in your system. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:59 No, that's more of a fat. Keeps you like more moisturized than collagen itself. I love beef tallow. I'm hooked on it. Vanessa got it for my birthday. Collagen comes from the bones. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Interesting. Yeah. Is that why they tell you to drink the bone broth that has the collagen in it? Yes. Interesting. Because I just saw that out there and I'm like, that's interesting. That's another great way to get more collagen. Because we don't get it in our food.
Starting point is 00:54:30 No. So I'm not a big organic person because I don't believe in it because it's been proven that it's better but not perfect. It's not even close. Like it's still got chemicals. They're still putting stuff in it. Unless you grow your backyard you have no clue correct so are you true is it truly organic no it's not so for me i'm like it's kind of a lie you know what i'm saying but if there are things like when i look at that broth with the collagen in it and i sit there and go oh that's interesting because you know that's probably true that comes
Starting point is 00:55:06 from the bone marrow and then you're sucking everything out of that bone yeah it's like simmering on the pot I've never been so happy to have my own chickens right now because of all the expensive how expensive eggs have gotten and you can't even find them yeah apparently they killed uh before 100 million chickens never have more happy to have my own chickens. We both know that it takes good 20 weeks after you get a chick before they even start laying. And if you get them now, it might even take a little bit longer than the 20 weeks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It takes
Starting point is 00:55:34 time. I'm glad I have my chickens. I did the glassing. Have you done glassing yet? I did. I just dumped all of them down. Because it tastes like, they taste like vinegar. They have a tint of a dingy tint. I wonder if you put too much of the pickling lime in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Heather's did too. Really? Yeah. I'm not. My eggs got to taste like an egg. I think if you're really, really hungry, you need it. You might not care. You don't care.
Starting point is 00:55:58 That's true. But they, well, listen, as I broke them, they looked pristine. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They look like. And they can go up to two years. Yeah. Wow. Mine were yeah, they look like. And they can go up to two years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Wow. Mine were in May of last year. So this is from somebody who watches the podcast. It says, do statin drugs cause issues with dementia or Alzheimer's? Well, here's the thing. If you look it up on Google, they're going to tell you no. But there was a recent study not too long ago, I think it was in 2022, where they tested people who were on statins versus people who aren't on statins. And the percentage of increase in dementia, it was double.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And more and more studies are coming out saying that statins do, because if you decrease your cholesterol, your brain is made of cholesterol. Your brain needs cholesterol. So if you drop your cholesterol your brain is made of cholesterol your brain needs cholesterol so if you drop your cholesterol too much you're causing your brain pretty much to not be able to function the way it needs to function which is then causing the dementia and the Alzheimer's but because it's such a big moneymaker because statins they put everybody on a statin I remember back when I do they do that you want my conspiracy theory or you want me to tell you the medical side of it?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Well, I can tell you what Tracy wants because Tracy's always into the conspiracy. So let's give it that because let's satisfy her hunger. It's money. It really is money. And back when I first went into nursing and I did cardiology, a normal cholesterol was 300. Now they want you under 200. Even up to 350 was a normal cholesterol level. Just like a normal blood sugar back in the day was 110, 120. Now they want that under 100. Oh, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:57:36 So is it because we always sit there and question science? Okay, we have to question science. We do question science, but are you questioning science with an idea of meeting what you want it, or is it being more doubly blind, triple blind studied, and a lot of stuff is not anymore? A lot of things are just getting passed through the FDA without having a triple blind study. Well, because the studies take umpteen years. Lots of time, and it costs a lot of money and they don't want to spend the time or the money because well that's one of
Starting point is 00:58:12 the reasons i really say that when medicine comes out it's so expensive right because of the time frame it took to get it to the to being manufactured and distributed because So they need to recoup what they make. But they do have patents. And then after a certain amount of years, they might change it just a little bit to keep a hold of that patent so they can keep. And then you can't get a brand name and you can't get a cheaper version of the medicine,
Starting point is 00:58:37 which we talked about earlier. Yeah. Which is a load of hooey. Yeah. It's craziness. I don't know. Has anybody got a question over there? Because I have one that I can wait, but everybody's good over there.
Starting point is 00:58:52 There was one a while ago, and she asked just real quick, because this might be easy, Natalie, about a parasite cleanse if you're breastfeeding and for a four-year-old. I wouldn't do one if you're breastfeeding. I would wait until you're done with breastfeeding. And if you want to do a four-year-old, the one that I gave you the last time, send the link on that one
Starting point is 00:59:13 because the spray under the tongue, it does both metals and parasites. Awesome. Thank you. Okay. Did you guys do that one? Did you ever do that parasite cleanse that she sent you guys?
Starting point is 00:59:23 No, I never did. I don't know which one that is. Oh, we should do that one. Okay. We should do parasite cleanse that she sent you guys? No, I never did. I always won that. Oh, we should do that one. Okay. Let's do it as a group and document what happened. Oh, yeah. But it also does metals too. I love that.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We won't be documenting the exits. No. Exit theory on whether it works or not. Maybe we can draw. Maybe we can draw like what they look like. A little like artistic way of doing it a little picture a little picture but that's cool natalie said that metals too i've never done a metal detox that's a lot of it does both yeah yeah that's what we should do okay we should order that before we leave today
Starting point is 00:59:56 let's do that because i think that would be good send me a link do you want to sure all right let's all do it together okay well. You know I'm down. Always. What is that? You know I'm down. Always down for a parasite cleanse. Of course. Like you got TMI.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Not TMI. You got the FOMO. I do. When it comes to this stuff. God forbid. You're messing up. Oh, yeah. My granddaughter has FOMO.
Starting point is 01:00:20 She won't take a nap because of FOMO. I have selective FOMO. Me too. A 100%. It's not on everything. So accurate. But on this stuff? Yes. If she has no interest in it, do it all day long
Starting point is 01:00:31 without her. But if she's like remotely, or if it has anything to do with Tracy doing it, if Tracy's doing it, she must do it. Vice versa. Exactly. Same, same. I'm sorry we didn't get to all the questions. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'm going to ask the women. Did you have one more, honey? No, that was it. Okay. So here's the last one. I'm going to combine the two together. And we're back to Ozempic because that is such a hot, hot, hot topic. So the last administration before they were leaving,
Starting point is 01:01:04 Ozempic is causing a lot of problems, not causing, it is solving a lot of issues for a lot of people, which is causing a lot of problems for big pharma because they're losing a lot of money in a lot of areas of sickness, illness, and disease that was making them a lot of money. Correct? Correct.
Starting point is 01:01:24 So the last administration was talking about possibly taking it off. The shortage list. So what that means is, so there's Ozempic, which is semiglutide, and then there's Mongero, which is the terzepatide. And the one that they're really looking at is the terzepatide. Because you get a bigger percentage of weight loss. Plus, they're also finding that it helps with inflammation, joint pains, psoriasis, a whole slew. Psoriasis?
Starting point is 01:01:48 Whole slew. What? Microdosing of it is helping out with a lot of different things that they're finding out. Now, they're even thinking, they did a study. Now, they're thinking that it even helps out with congestive heart failure. It's a whole bunch of stuff. So, it was really hard to get Mongero. So the FDA was like, it's okay to have compounded pharmacies making it as interseptide. But then as many people that turned over to just separate tide and stop taking the Mongero. Well, Mongero costs anywhere between $1,000 to $1,200 a month. Right. And you have to meet a certain criteria to even get put on it by your insurance company you have to be your BMI has to be over 30 you have to be either pre-diabetic or diabetic as in type 2 diabetes they do use it off-label
Starting point is 01:02:34 for type 1 it's really hard to find an endocrinologist that will do that especially in this area because it is kind of tricky however because they were getting it a lot cheaper, you can get it for about $250 a month, right, compared to $1,250, $1,100. So they said, okay, well, we're going to take it off. And it's cleaner. Well, yeah, I mean, it's compounded. Osempic, it's a cleaner product as well.
Starting point is 01:02:59 I think it is compared to, I think the compounding version. So Osempic, let's's talk it's actually mangero so ozempic is the ozempic semiglutide they're together okay and that's like works on one um receptor in your body which is called the glp ones that's when you hear all these glp ones everybody's all on these glp ones yeah zepatide which is mangero the the brand name which is part of lily so lily finally said listen we're going to take it off the shortage list because we're not making enough money and people are able to get their Mongero. They're able to get it for their weight loss and their quote unquote type two diabetes.
Starting point is 01:03:36 We're going to take it off. But then the FDA was like, okay, we're going to do that. So they were saying, okay, now we're not going to do any more compounding on the terzapotide. It's going to be null and void. You can't get it. And people started freaking out because people are getting it for a lot cheaper. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:03:50 And because of that, the OCA, I think it's the Outsourcing Compounding Associates, has then put an injunction against the FDA and Lilly because they redacted a whole bunch of stuff in their thing. And it just came out, I think, yesterday where they're saying the redacted a whole bunch of stuff in their thing. And it just came out, I think yesterday, where they're saying the redacted stuff is showing that it really should still be on the shortage list because people are still having a hard time getting it. Now, here's the one little thing. If you're using a 503A or 503B pharmacy, compounding pharmacy, if they change it either by milligram strength or they add
Starting point is 01:04:25 something else into it, they will be able to continue to compound the medication. So a lot of people- Because they changed it enough. They changed it enough where they're not using the patented brand, Lilly brand, that they are able to- Get in trouble. Get in trouble for copyright, right? It's a copyright type of thing, like a record.
Starting point is 01:04:43 If you play something, it's a copyright. Like an infringement upon them. Correct. So they should still be able to compound the medication. So a lot of people started freaking out over the last,
Starting point is 01:04:53 I don't know, was it November? It's cheaper, but it's also based on what's in it. It's cleaner. It has less in it, correct? It has less of the added chemicals in it.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Which would be cleaner. Yeah. And that's why I said Robert Kennedy, he's all for peptides. Peptides are protein-based molecules that our body is used to either making. Like there's one called BPC-157. It is an amazing peptide you have ulcers they would give it to you ulcer would go away it helps to reconstruct like ligaments and injuries along with tb 500 but they took away fda took away bpc 157 because they said uh it's not appropriate and
Starting point is 01:05:39 they there was something else not making them any money. And then there's AOD 9604, which actually moves fat and helps burn off fat, which was another big, huge one. That's an awesome peptide, which I have the ends on getting that one too now. Yes. Sign me up. So again,
Starting point is 01:05:57 there's peptides are like amazing to use and it's a more of a holistic approach because your body's able to break it down because it's made out of proteins compared to a chemical the chemicals that the rockefeller and that kind of stuff is right made so you were saying that there's the trizepicide trizepatide correct and then there's another one. One's got, it's like a three-based, two-based. It's in the third clinical phase trial
Starting point is 01:06:31 through Lilly. It's called retitrutide. And it actually works on three receptors, your GLP-1, your GIP, and glucagon, which is actually showing that people that have addictive personalities
Starting point is 01:06:43 and addictive things like alcoholism, ADHD, food. Well, definitely food. But it's also showing reversal of fatty liver disease, heart disease. That one is really hard to get from a compounding pharmacy. I'm really trying to find that one. You can get it from, quote unquote, a research peptide, which I highly wouldn't recommend that you get research peptides because you don't necessarily know where you're getting it from. You get it from black market.
Starting point is 01:07:08 You're getting it from China. You just don't know what's in there. So you don't know what's in there. It's lyophilized powder. And then you have to reconstitute it on your own. So you kind of don't know. Well, that's not safe. So me, I would rather get it from like a compounding pharmacy that I work with. That's reputable.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Correct. Yeah. And that's going to be a new game changer when that one comes out. Okay. But explain receptors. So there's three. Three in redditrutide, two in terzepatide, which is GLP-1 and GIP, and semiglutide is just a GLP-1. And what are receptors? They are the little things that are used to pick up that protein and use it to what it needs to be used for. And distribute it in the body? Where it needs to go, correct. It picks it up and it carries it along.
Starting point is 01:07:52 So the fewer receptors, is it better? No, you wouldn't. Does it matter? No. I mean, a semiglutide, a lot of people have success with semiglutide. It's just they don't have as high of a success. And they really haven't shown, quote unquote, ozempic semiglutide as in helping with other things like inflammation, because it only works on the one receptor, which is the GLP-1. Whereas the other ones are working with the other receptors. Now, here's another big thing.
Starting point is 01:08:21 A lot of people are worried about it because, quote unquote, they think it's new, but they've actually been out for 20 plus years. Why? Because it's a peptide. It's a peptide. It's been out. It's been out for a longer period of time than what people think. And does it cause side effects? It can.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Anything that you put in your body can cause a side effect because what works for you may not work for me. Doesn't work for somebody else. Right. Right. So there is always those different things that you got to kind of look out for. But a peptide is right. Right. So there is always those different things that you got to kind of look out for. But a peptide is natural. Correct.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Whereas the other is man-made. Chemical. Yeah. So like for me, it's like if you eat too much lettuce, you're going to the bathroom. It's the way it is. Too much vitamin C, go to the bathroom. I mean, figure out how much you can and cannot take of that peptide. But it's not going to kill you because it's not a chemical.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah, as long as you don't overdo it. I mean, anything in life you can't overdo, you overdo. Cleaner the product. The better it is for you. Exactly. To me, it's a no-brainer. So none of those are going anywhere. It doesn't look like, because when we were talking,
Starting point is 01:09:24 one of the things we said last time is it might be gone because the past administration was trying to make that happen. Well, the FDA, because big pharma is losing out on millions of money because people have been getting it at a cheaper price. I've had people sit there and say, well, you know, those people are making it so I can't get my diabetes medicine. And that's the reason why they were saying, OK, it's on a shortage list. So then that's why they pushed the FDA was like you can compound it as much as possible.
Starting point is 01:09:50 But then you've got a whole bunch of clientele now that may not be able to take their medicine anymore. That's why the OCA, I think it's OCA, went after the FDA saying, no, no, no, no. FDA and Lilly and said, you can't just stop it because it's really still hard to get for other people. So it's in the courts and it's all about money. It's not about your health, just to let you know. No, it's never been about our health. It's all about the root of all evil. That's all that matters.
Starting point is 01:10:20 That wheel better keep spinning because if it doesn't, they'll be held to pay. We don't matter. That's what what matters they don't care about you they really really don't i'm sorry to say that i mean doctors i'm not saying doctors don't care doctors are set into motion with protocols and they are taught these protocols from the moment they walk in to school and some of them just don't want to veer away from it and they're just dead set onto those protocols no matter moment they walk in to school. And some of them just don't want to veer away from it. And they're just dead set onto those protocols, no matter what they are, whether it's for treatment. It's like brainwashing of some sort. Correct. And a lot of them are only see
Starting point is 01:10:54 this and they don't want to see the bigger picture. And, you know, before Rockefeller and what was the other one, they took over the medicine. It was all about holistic. It was all about using apricot seeds, which, you know, quote unquote, have cyanide in them. So they tell you not to take it, but they actually do. They work. They work. I mean, God wouldn't create it if it was going to really like kill you. I mean, anything in excess can do harm.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Yeah. But we all know that. Yeah. Like in general, I i mean that goes with anything like you watch too much tv it's not it's not good become a zombie yeah well obesity the whole thing i mean there's just a whole lot of side effects lots of side effects from a lot of screen time that's sweet ghost have you seen what's going on with the kiddos now with Cocomelon? I don't know if you know what Cocomelon is.
Starting point is 01:11:46 I have no idea. Cocomelon is like a kid's show on, I think it's YouTube or something else, but whatever. The kids, when you take Cocomelon away, are like literally having breakdowns. These are like one, two-year-old kids. Like if they even hear it,
Starting point is 01:12:01 they come running on their little walkers because of the way that they make the show. It stimulates the brain so much that they're literally becoming addicted to it at six months, eight months, one year, two years old. It's insanity. Have you guys heard about this? None of you have?
Starting point is 01:12:16 I've heard of Cocomelon, but I didn't know that we have a whole generation addicted. Yeah. I mean like addicted. You can watch video. Now it'll pop up on your phone that I talked about it. You'll see videos
Starting point is 01:12:26 of these kiddos literally having like breakdowns from it. Are parents concerned? Well, I mean, you got a lot of parents that the school system is their babysitter.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Well, what, you know, screen time is their babysitter so they can do their own thing. So are they worried? Some are.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Some aren't. Depends on the group you're with and who you're talking to. That's so true, man. It depends. Yeah. The company you carry. Is it a clean? No, they talk about transgender and all that good stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:01 And they talk about, you know, transgender. And, you know, I have two daddies. They have all that stuff on there. So I wouldn't say. Hopefully nobody we know watches, has their kid watch. I would say I wouldn't be something I would want my kiddo to watch.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That's crazy. Guess I'm not the only one with a coffin. Praise you, Jesus. I'm not. Oh my God. Misery loves company. It's not a good thing. God be for you.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Who can be against you, Vanessa? She runs away. I know. She just ran out of the room. The thing is you can feel completely. I was talking to Natalie about this. I feel so good. Now my chest hurts from coughing so much.
Starting point is 01:13:44 It's sore. But as far as feeling bad or anything, I feel great. It's the dadgum cough. She said there are people literally right now walking around with walking pneumonia. Yeah, it's turning into walking pneumonia, the flu that's going around. I mean, a lot, a lot of people. How does that happen? And then we'll let everybody go.
Starting point is 01:14:08 How does one get walking pneumonia? It's just a term that they use because it's actually settled into your lungs farther down than bronchitis. It's lower. Is that bronchitis, like while all of us are fighting bronchitis or just fighting a chest cold?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Just fighting a chest cold, a virus. I can tell you the conspiracy about it. Was that weird fog that came in? I blame everything on that fog. The weird fog that came in because people got sicker than a dog in that fog. Remember that weird, sick fog? Yes. For days we had a weird fog.
Starting point is 01:14:44 So after that, that's when it shot up people just like getting sick. I mean, I was doing urgent care at home telehealth. And I, when I tell you I was seeing 40 to 50 people a night, Tom, Tom fought a sinus thing. Like he, he was on it. He was a in beast mode on that thing. He would not not relent but that happened right around that fog dude i feel vindicated we were saying that we're like i feel off i never got the chest thing but like my i had like did you get it right around the fog time yes and i was like dude what's up with this fog yeah but i feel vindicated i knew it i knew it my gut was telling me oh my gosh vanessa all you have, Vanessa. I don't trust that gut.
Starting point is 01:15:30 That gut is not to be relied on. Don't talk about my gut. Oh man. Oh my gosh. If I trusted that gut, I might go right off the Hoover Dam. Maybe. My gut has never led me astray.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Okay, well. Neither have my parasites. Okay, the problem is what you just said. Has never led you astray. I don't know if you would know if you were astray or not. That's a good point. Yeah, thank you. That is fair.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You'd be walking down an alley and think, and there'll be two guys at the end going, hey, we got a purse down here for you. She'd be like, how much? Yeah. True. But you know what? The Lord knew that about me.
Starting point is 01:16:12 True. And he linked me with a, an amazing husband. So what'll be going behind her is this huge angel and they'll hand her the purse and it'll only be the angel that saved her and they saw the angel, she never saw it. True.
Starting point is 01:16:24 True. My guardian angels are all the time. I angel, she never saw it True My guardian angels have abs Your gut doesn't work That was just God saving you That's why I don't trust it Without God she's nothing True Amen sister Well thank you guys so much for joining in
Starting point is 01:16:43 And participating with us. We really appreciate it. I guess if you have any questions, can they? Of course. I can always call. I don't always answer the phone, so just leave a message. I will call you back.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yeah. If you're looking to become that woman. Wait a minute. Yep, right there. Perfect. Underneath you yeah right there there is her yeah that's your email but saved by grace if you want to know how much she charges to hire her and you i mean you've got your pricing i know it's very affordable
Starting point is 01:17:19 please yeah please go look at her thing mean, we signed up for a full family and there's never in a million years I could get what I get for one person for what I get for all of my family. And it's very rare I need her, but to know that I have somebody that is going to give me a holistic approach or come to my house.
Starting point is 01:17:42 It's ridiculous. It blows my mind that people aren't taking advantage of this. I'm trying to figure out how to like, I just, I, it's ridiculous. It blows my mind that people aren't taking advantage of this. Right. Like I'm trying to figure out how to work for my company. Like have our guys be able to go instead of blue. It won't always be like this either. So like as she can only clientele,
Starting point is 01:17:55 cause she's her business as it grows. Well, it won't stay like this. I mean, our pricing, I'm not saying our price is going to stay the same, but the thing is, is as she grows and the demand grows, other things will have to do as well. So you might as well get on the bottom rung. Yes. Which you're not really at the bottom rung anymore
Starting point is 01:18:14 because you've got plenty of patients now. I'm saying about 70. Okay. Which is very good for a single person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like more. In your first year. I mean, I've not even been open a year yet. Yeah. October, August will be a year, the end of August. Which is nuts. Incredible. Most people would kill for that. That starts their own company.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Oh, I'm not worried. Oh, I know you're not worried. But what I'm saying to you is great pricing, and sometimes it pays to get in on the first level. For sure. but the main reason and and you should think about this though i i say this in all fairness but my mom is the same way and i think the girls over there said the same thing when we all signed up it's not necessarily about i don't go to the doctor i never i hardly ever call you tomm Tommy doesn't call you anymore. I haven't heard from him in months.
Starting point is 01:19:05 He was my hypochondriac. Literally, we don't really even use you, really. But our point is, and Tom's big on this, is if you want to have an alternative medicine, then whether or not you need it, if you want it out there, you got to participate in it so that if you ever need it, but more importantly for others, that it's available to them.
Starting point is 01:19:34 We all say we want these things, but we don't do what it takes to have them. Put your money where your mouth is, is basically what I'm saying. If you want it, then you don't wait until you need it. You actually have it available for you but more importantly available for those who really do need it right and that's the important thing so if you want it we all say we're conservative we all say we're tired of the system if you're tired of the system then become get out of it and help other people to be able to do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:20:05 That's a big thing. But a lot of people are on a yap, yap, and they don't do what they say. Right. When it really is available to them. They just don't. It's like go to Detweiler's instead of going to Walmart. True. Spend a little bit more money.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Get better nutrition. Yeah. You really are what you eat. Or go to Publix, which has a better variety, but it's not a part of the Walmart system. I mean, it may cost you a little bit more money, but if you want things to change, sometimes you got to be the one that helps it happen,
Starting point is 01:20:45 I guess is what I'm trying to say. So thank you so much for coming. As always, we'll be putting you on the docket for March. Okay. Cause I think every other month is really where we need to go. So thank you guys for coming. Thank you for participating. Have a great weekend.
Starting point is 01:21:01 We'll see you Sunday. For those of you, you who live in the area, for those who do not tune in on Sunday to the service. You will not be disappointed. We love you. We'll see you Wednesday. Bye. Real Talk.

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