The Hope Hotline - Special Guest | Natalie
Episode Date: March 28, 2025Popcorn Lungs & Vaping?Castor Oil in Belly Button?GLP1 Side Effects? How Do I Pick A Good Doctor? Botox has MRNA?Could It Be A False Positive?...
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Real talk.
Real talk.
Real talk.
Real talk.
Hello and welcome to the whole pot line. Thank you for joining us today. We got our own professional, look at her.
She's got a white jacket on and everything.
She came to play.
I did.
Today.
And I did too.
I finally got my silver hoops back.
I gave them away to somebody.
Somebody was like, oh, I love your hoops.
And I was like, well, here you go.
I've been without my silver hoops.
This size, I have plenty,
but you know, there's ranging in size. I lost this size, I have plenty, but you know, we all, there's ranging in size.
I lost the size, but I feel like myself today.
These are the biggest hoops I have.
I can help you with that.
So can Vanessa.
Vanessa's brought me some great hoops back
from Hawaii and stuff.
So you feel good in your jacket.
I do.
I feel good in my hoops.
All is well with the world.
Yes.
So how's, how are you guys doing over there?
Girls?
We're doing great.
I'm a little tired.
Why is that?
We were at the river last night.
Oh, that's right.
We were all at the river last night.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a long, but good day.
Yeah, you guys were the whole day.
I was last night.
I'm going back tonight.
She did so good.
Yeah, she was great.
You didn't watch it and you need to go back, man.
She preached a killer message.
Yeah, she always does.
Oh my gosh, it was so good.
Oh my gosh.
Always good.
Loved every minute of it.
Good stuff.
And I hadn't been to the river since like fire week.
And so as soon as I entered the sanctuary,
I look over to Tracy and I'm like bawling.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I'm bawling.
But I'm like literally like.
You started crying for no reason.
We walked in during worship and it was just so thick.
Oh yeah, powerful.
It was so thick.
Yeah.
And I don't cry.
Like I do cry, but I don't usually just cry that way.
Yeah, you don't just cry.
Like some people are easy cryers.
Yeah, I was just like, what's happening?
Yeah.
The worship was good.
Ty is an easy crier.
Yeah, it was so good.
So good, so, so good.
So tune in tonight or go tonight.
Like how much longer is it?
It's still tomorrow morning, right?
I think they have a Saturday morning service.
Yeah, so Friday. And then they have their tea.
And then they have their tea.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which is sold out, so.
Yeah, don't try to go.
Shucker.
Yeah.
That was beautiful.
How they have that set up.
Everything.
They do such a great job.
It's gorgeous.
Her podium was out of this world.
They should never go back to the way it was.
The colors were perfect.
Ever.
The podium is completely all flowers.
Oh, nice.
Vines and what's, it's not vines, but it's like,
what is it? Stems and what else?
What would you call it?
Filler.
It's the greenery is like killer.
Yeah.
But it's not stems.
Yeah.
Not just stems and it's not vines, but what is that?
Yeah.
That they used.
I don't even know, but- I don't know either.
I don't either, but it was beautiful.
Natalie, it is gorgeous.
Yeah, my car is gone.
I had my husband's truck.
I had to give my car up to my daughter.
Her car got towed to get fixed.
So I don't have my car.
Well, I'm going tonight,
so if you decide you wanna go.
But still, like it's unbelievable.
So beautiful.
It's just gorgeous.
They did, they knocked it out of the park.
They ran the color palette.
Was just incredible too.
Yeah.
If you're a person that loves a lot of,
what do you call those photo ops?
Yes. Yes.
This girl.
That's the place for you.
Yep.
How many photos did you take Tracy?
Not a lot, cause we kind of got there.
It took us forever to get there in the morning.
Took us like two hours, 15 minutes.
There was traffic the whole way.
So then we got there, we were trying to rush in.
And then we left, we got a couple of photos
and then we left and then we got back
and it was time to go back in again.
Yeah, and you got to rush and do all that too.
Rush and go back in, yeah.
Yep, I get it.
I would have taken more, but it was beautiful.
Every spot, I was like, ooh, that's good.
Ooh, that's good.
It was gorgeous.
I know.
And they had different vendors there too.
They did, yeah.
They had an IV event, like an IV, like hydration,
hydration stations.
Nice, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they do have different ones this time, I agree.
The boutique area, some really pretty dresses.
Really pretty dresses.
It's really nice.
It's really good.
Really is.
Really great job.
Do you wanna do the thing really quick, Tracy?
And then we'll get everybody,
because the sooner they share,
more people will hear what she has to say.
I know, and we can go live on TikTok now.
So I'm trying to figure out how we can do that.
Do you wanna just go live on, not worry about this and just go straight to- I'll do it real fast just so we can go live on TikTok now. So I'm trying to figure out how we can do that. Do you wanna just go live on not worry about this
and just go straight to-
I'll do it real fast just so we can share.
But I'm just trying to figure out.
I don't know how that's gonna work
because it's making me pick a topic and none of the topics.
It's like alien abduction, Roblox.
What?
I don't know.
Yeah, so I'm like, which one do we pick?
All right, yeah, I'll do this real quick.
I'll have Talia help me figure that out.
And then maybe we'll go live on TikTok, be our first time. All right, yeah, I'll do this real quick. I'll have Talia help me figure that out and then we'll maybe we'll go live on TikTok.
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So I'm going to throw this one up real quick, but this is her company and her website.
And I will get the one with her phone number.
So we'll be able to switch over to that when necessary.
But that is all.
That's it.
I think that we've got everything on here.
Yep. That's it.
Here it comes.
Hi, Diggety.
Well, we're ready to go.
Let's just get right in it on into it because now I'm going to talk about popcorn lung first.
Now, or would you prefer because you have to do questions.
Would you prefer me to go to number two first?
I'm ready. No, I'm good.
So you're trying to do this TikTok shop thingy
or TikTok live or whatever you call it.
I don't know TikTok.
I could probably sell some stuff.
We got some stuff out there.
We know you're learning
because we go on and we see you playing.
You got all your games.
I like playing my little games.
Awesome.
We like you playing your games too.
You're entertaining for us.
It's fun.
Well, no, what we get to see on your end is fun.
Yes.
You're having fun while watching you is fun.
Okay, I'll do that.
So would that help you if I did that, Tracy?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, that's what I thought.
Yeah, go for it.
Okay, now I know that this is done because Norma does it.
And when I got sick one time, Norma was like,
well, why don't we try this?
And I was like, whatever, it didn't work for me.
But does castor oil in your belly button
actually work by detoxing?
So castor oil in the belly button.
Castor oil is known to penetrate really, really deep
in your tissue.
It helps break up adhesions, lipomas.
You can put them on your eyelids
and it helps break up like cataracts.
Wait a minute, like lipomas, the fatty pieces, it'll...
It breaks them down.
As long as it takes to actually get them,
it doesn't do it overnight.
Unfortunately, we live in an instant society,
like I've said on countless times.
It's something that you have to continuously do
over and over and over
and over again and be consistent.
And most of these things, most people aren't consistent with it
enough for it to actually do the job that it's supposed to do.
However, in the belly button, no, not necessarily.
Most of the stuff that studies have shown and that I've read
is when you do it in your belly button,
it's more like the massage itself, you do it in your belly button, it's more like the massage itself,
massaging it into your belly button
actually promotes lymphatic kind of drainage
throughout your gut.
Now you can do castor oil packs on your liver,
lay down, help, and what it does is it helps your liver
speed up to kind of do its own job,
which is to detoxify,
because that's what your liver's made to do.
Yeah.
So people are doing that, like they sell like,
oh, that was, because you do it too?
That's how you, you see?
Most people don't notice anything.
Oh, well, I didn't notice it.
And they buy, like Norma's got all these like,
like bandage thingies that you stick over your belly button
so that the castor oil doesn't seep out because it'll ruin your sheets and stuff. Oh yeah because it's so thick. Castor oil is like
really thick. So it's part of it's rooted in an older type of medicine practice called Ayurvedic
medicine which is like long long long ago. But most of that stuff is a lot of it's like mind over
matter when it comes to that part. But if you constantly and consistently do it over a period of time, adhesions, lipomas,
it is known for breaking it down and taking it away.
Why is it in a lipoma?
Some people don't know what a lipoma is.
It's a fatty, fatty tumor.
It looks like when you open it up, it looks like, and I know this from Dr. Pimple Popper. But it looks like chicken fat.
Yeah.
It's disgusting.
I had a huge one removed on my arm.
What?
Do you have a scar from it?
I do, do you wanna see it?
Yeah.
That's huge scar.
What?
That's huge.
It was huge.
I have one that's located right here
and I haven't done the castor oil packs I started,
but it's hard to get a good one
because of where it is on my neck.
And I'm definitely not having them go in and cut it out
because it's right on my spine.
Yeah, they say you gotta be super careful.
So how can you tell if you have it?
Hold on, go and stand there.
Just really quick, do you mind?
Or, okay.
So how do you tell if you have it or not?
Cause hers is big, so is yours big?
Can you feel outside of your skin
or only when you massage?
No, you can feel it.
Okay.
And it's movable.
Oh.
And it feels spongy, like sponge.
Like a fatty thing?
Yeah, it feels spongy. I can let you feel mine
But that's how you know, you have one. Okay
Well, you probably don't know when they're tiny enough but as they grow and get bigger than you do know
Yeah, cuz there's how would you know like like Vanessa? How long had you had it before you realized? I
Don't know.
I was very young.
I was about 12.
Okay.
And so I just know that it got really big
and for like a split second,
I just thought I was like building muscle
because of where it was.
Oh my gosh.
That's not the case.
That's so funny.
No.
God, I love her. I's not the case. That's so funny. No. No. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
God, I love her.
I know, me too.
She's cute.
That's the best.
No, so.
And then you were devastated.
No, it's just the fatty.
It's just fat.
A fatty cockpit.
And how does, like, how do those masses get,
how do they get created?
Cause I literally saw a guy in North Park
going to Walmart and he had one on the back of his neck.
Like his neck could not go all the way back.
His neck was like this.
Most people are predisposed to them.
Oh, really?
Yeah, so it's not like we could sit there and say that
because you live this kind of lifestyle or you do this
that you're gonna have it.
Most people are like predisposed.
Oh, okay, because what I was more or less thinking
is it like
something like gets in a pore or something like that
that causes it.
So it's not even anything like that.
No, it's deep down inside.
Wow, gosh, that's so interesting.
It's kind of like an abscess or a cyst, right?
Where they have to go in and cut out.
You have to get out the sac that it contains.
If you don't, it just keeps filling back up.
But a lipoma is like a big, huge fatty.
Just like, it's kind of like a tumor.
It's just an overgrowth of a fat cell.
It just keeps piling onto itself
until the point where people need to get it removed.
But Dr. Pimple Popper, she even says with those,
you gotta get as much of it as you possibly can out.
And it's not necessarily a sack, it's the material.
It's the cell itself, the fat cell itself you have to get out. So it's not necessarily a sack. It's the material. It's the cell itself.
The fat cell itself you have to get out.
So it's a lot of like, like we're assist.
It's the sack.
If you don't get the sack, it will come back.
Correct.
Yeah.
In fact, I just did one of those at the ER not too long ago.
Did you really?
What was that like?
It was in her stomach.
I felt so bad.
Wow.
Yeah.
It was assist or lipoma.
No, it was a cyst.
Ugh.
They stink when they get popped.
Yeah.
It's nasty.
Poor thing.
Yeah.
That's rough.
Okay, are we good to move to keep going?
Let's do it.
Okay, so next question.
I saw that vaping can cause something called popcorn lung. The way a surgeon
described it was so gross. What have you heard about it? So I'm not sure who wrote
this question, but so what is popcorn lung and what do you know about it? So
popcorn lung is a rare condition. It's actually called bronchiolitis obliterans. It's just a term
for that because actually it's a very rare form of like disease in your lungs
and people that are found working with a chemical called diset diacetyl in
popcorn facilities, they like the popcorn flavoring, those people can get it as
well. It's not just people who smoke cigarettes, right? So people who smoke cigarettes can
get popcorn lung? Well, no. I thought it was vaping. Well, no, because here's the
thing, they've done tons of studies because that same chemical is found in
cigarettes. So for people to actually get popcorn lung, quote-unquote, you have to
be really exposed to a high
amount of it. So even a person that's smoking a pack a day may not get popcorn lung like it's very
rare. So vaping, yes before 2015 that chemical was found in a whole bunch of vaping pens.
And because people were like inhaling it a lot, then you had a higher incidence. So it wasn't as rare, but it still remains a rare condition.
Tracy has a good picture of, so a normal,
go back to the other one.
A normal bronchial is open like that,
right on the left-hand side.
It's nice, it's clear.
Then when you start using,
or you're getting exposed to that particular chemical, you start building up inflammation inside the bronchial and
then that ends up causing a whole bunch of mucus to like start like suffocating
the bronchial itself and then that makes scar tissue because then it can't move
and then when it can't move that's when you can't make the air exchange that you
need to make because everything's made down in the avioli, which are the little brown things that look like
little grapes on a tree. Once those can't get what it needs, then those start to break down and die,
and then they get scarred up. And then the other picture is a true picture of what a popcorn lung kind of looks like. It scars up the whole entire
lung so then the lungs itself can't expand and do what it needs to do. So that's like
a, the one on the left is an x-ray of a lung and you see the heart in the middle. You see
the spine, you see the clavicle, you see your arms, you see all your ribs. And if you look
closely, you see like white
like little dots throughout there. Those are scar tissues of the bronchioli and
then the left side is where like they kind of show the whole thing in a
different way. But it's not just people who vape that get it, unfortunately. It's
it's rare and if you work in a facility like the flavorings of popcorn
that that chemical that they use on it is can cause it as well so just being
exposed to that particular chemical. Holy moly. So vaping essentially you know you
still get your nicotine yeah you're still doing you're smoking and you're
still bringing different chemicals in while you're doing it, after 2015 they made sure that that wasn't in there. Now however, you can
still get vaping materials that are kind of made on the black market and they're
not being as monitored and people like with THC ones and stuff like that, if
they're not monitored correctly, you are going to end up with the same thing
again and you increase your risk of doing that.
One of the things that is really bad about vaping
is you're holding a little electronic thing in your hand.
They can explode and that actually happened
to a cousin of mine.
He was riding with his dad and he was taking a hit
on his vape and the whole thing exploded,
blew out the window, blew out most of his teeth.
He had to have all his teeth redone.
So you know, you kind of like,
it's not just smoking it can cause issues
like into your lungs itself,
but you could have it actually blow up and.
Have you guys heard that before?
This is wild.
Yeah.
Is that common that those things blow up?
It depends.
It depends on the, where you're getting them from.
It just...
So many of these things are made like black market-wise
because they're sold cheaper and people tend to buy the cheaper
because they can afford it.
Because it's not cheap to vape.
Just like cigarette smoking is not cheap anymore.
Oh, no. Uh-uh.
My gosh, Tracy, was it...
When you saw that thing, you saw something about vaping recently?
Yeah.
Was that or you saw something about popcorn lung recently?
Was that from a person vaping?
Mm hmm.
Yes, this one was.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
That's what the doctor said.
So I'm wondering if it was that one.
It's a Canadian boy.
He was like 17 years old.
He was like 24 years old. And it's a big one that
they kind of use to show that it can cause. And when you sit there and kind of do more research
on it, you can find it on Google Scholar, you can find a whole bunch of other things on Google
Scholar in regards to it. The thing is, is they were he wasn't just doing vaping regular tobacco
products. He was vaping THC that was found on the black market, which had high, high counts of it in there.
That's his, that's this one.
Yeah.
Is that the one you saw?
This is, no, the one that I'm putting up right now.
This is actually from the Canadian boy.
He was 17 years old.
Yeah.
He went in, they thought he was sick.
He was running a fever, having a hard time breathing.
And then they did a whole bunch of antibiotics.
Nothing was working. Nothing was working. Then they had to like give him a whole bunch of antibiotics and nothing was working.
Nothing was working.
Then they had to like give him a whole bunch of like corticosteroids just to bring down
the inflammation.
He ended up being intubated.
He had a tracheotomy.
He ended up having a trach where they put it here.
They put him on an ECMO machine because they just weren't, his lungs just weren't working
until they started giving him so many steroids
and then kind of brought him down.
It took like 47 days for him to just even get home,
but he still can't tolerate exercise
and a whole bunch of other things
because when you need that extra amount of air,
when you're doing extra physical activity,
his lungs are too restricted.
They don't expand enough to give him the air that he needs.
He's 17. He was, yeah. This was a couple years ago. He's not 17 anymore, but yeah.
Man, your life is ruined over like, just puffing. Just puffing. But not everybody's.
Now, it's hard. It doesn't happen to everybody. It doesn't happen to everybody. It's still considered rare, but I mean, anytime you take anything in,
it doesn't matter what it is,
you're still at risk of it doing something to you
when you're taking a chemical in.
Wow.
Holy moly.
That popcorn lung,
that's the one I was really interested in.
Yeah, that was, I know, I saw that.
So many people I know have quit smoking
and gone to vaping because they think it's better.
I know a lot of people that have done that.
But it's not better.
Nope.
You're just, you're still can harm your lungs.
You still can harm your lungs.
You're still putting chemicals in.
I mean, you still have nicotine in there.
You have propylene glycol in there, vegetable glycerin.
Those two are just a solvent use,
which is a chemical just to make the vapor.
And then you have the different flavorings that they add, which are all chemicals.
It could be a fruit flavor, menthol flavor, tobacco.
They have like a Mountain Dew flavor ones.
Cotton candy is one that lots of people have.
I smell that cotton candy one all the time.
Heavy metals come out from that.
I mean, you just, I mean, you're putting chemicals into your lungs.
Right.
Isn't it like an oil base too?
Isn't there like oil as well?
So like, where does the oil go?
Like once you breathe it in.
You're breathing it in.
Right.
So just hangs out.
Oil in?
That's right.
It's a solvent.
An oil is a solvent.
And that's going into your lungs. Right. And then what? And it's kind of It's a solvent. An oil is a solvent. And that's going into your lungs.
Right. And then what?
And it's kind of like sitting in there.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's not any better than smoking, in a sense, but tobacco.
It has its own set of problems.
It has its own set of problems because smoking itself, I mean, probably back in the 1800s when it was just growing tobacco leaves,
yeah, was probably okay. That's what I've heard. That's what now with as much stuff as they spray
to keep the crop going is causing more chemicals to enter your body and everything else.
And like the fertilizers that there's, I know, because that's what people said.
I've heard people say, well, it wasn't bad
when it was just the tobacco leaf.
Correct.
But it's not like that anymore,
which I never even thought about that.
I thought it was always bad.
They were like, no, it wasn't.
No.
So it's crazy.
I don't know if this one question is on here,
but you know what, if we have time, I'll ask it.
But I will, do you wanna address this?
We all, I don't know how long this thing lasts,
but we're all about to embark starting Monday.
Our-
We're starting this Monday?
Yes.
Are you okay?
Are you able to start doing my money?
I can start on Monday.
Our parasite cleanse.
Woo-hoo. Everybody on the Hope hotline Are you able to start your hot money? I can start it on Monday. Our parasite cleanse.
Everybody on the Hope hotline or says they are part of the Hope hotline.
We're doing it.
They may not be here all the time.
Yeah.
But everybody who calls the Hope hotline,
they're home as far as-
I wanna poop snakes.
Yeah.
What is that?
I wanna poop snakes.
Oh my gosh.
Well, you're gonna tell us if you do. Oh my gosh. Well, you're going to tell us if you do.
I'll have to like send in updates.
Yeah. We will be giving updates every single day,
starting Tuesday, because we're starting at Monday.
How long does it take to start recognizing
that there's a difference?
With this one, I mean, it depends on how much you have in there.
It could take, I mean, anything.
It takes a little while for your body
to actually start feeling the differences
of this kind of stuff.
So we're gonna have to do this for a good month.
So we won't know for a month?
No, you should start seeing something
within a week to two weeks.
Okay, so if Vanessa eradicates something out of her system,
that snake-like, we'll be finding out about it.
Are you gonna take pictures?
Within a week maybe.
Do you want pictures?
Should you take pictures?
Could you take pictures?
Why not?
I mean, I'm not taking pictures.
I'm not taking pictures.
I can't, I can barely even look at my own stuff
without being nauseous.
Oh my gosh.
Next question.
Next question. So we will be doing the parasite cleanse my gosh. Next question. Next question.
So we will be doing the parasite cleanse.
Okay, next question.
Natalie, you always come on the whole pot line
and drop bombs.
The last one was nicotine is good for you.
What is the newest research you're studying out
since you were on the podcast last time?
There's been a plethora of stuff,
but one of the things that I have been really diving into
over the last couple of weeks is methylene blue.
Yeah, that's a big one right there.
Huge one.
Lay it on me.
So methylene blue was actually invented as a textile dye,
dyeing your fabrics, your cottons.
And then they kind of used it to cure malaria.
They used it for malaria. They use it for malaria.
They use it for UTIs, which they don't use that anymore.
And then it's also been used for a condition
where your hemoglobin doesn't actually,
it gets kind of ruined to a point
where it can't carry the oxygen that it needs to carry.
So they use it for that.
Well, now that they found that it's used
for a lot of other things, good things,
like cognitive, it increases your memory.
It's almost like a euphoric feeling when you take in it.
One major thing though, if you do take it,
just be prepared that you will pee blue.
It is normal to pee blue.
So if you see like a green urine,
yellow and blue make green. So green urine or blue urine is normal to P blue. So if you see like a green urine, yellow and blue make green.
So green urine or blue urine is normal.
But, and you can't take it if you have a,
like a DNA, it's called G6PD deficiency.
Usually you're born with that.
And if you're born with that kind of condition,
you will know.
How will you know?
Usually you'll have really bad jaundice as a baby,
and then they test you for it so that there's
different things that you can't do with G6 PD deficiency.
So you can't take it with that.
You can't take it if you are doing medications
for anxiety or depression, like Paxil, Prozac.
And then your really heavy-duty depression
medications which I hardly ever know any ones that called MAOI inhibitors. I
hardly ever I've never prescribed them in my career and I've never met
anybody to be on them but they're like for really like psychiatric issues and
major depression you can't take it with that either because it can increase a
thing called your serotonin.
Everyone has serotonin in our brains.
And if you can end up having a problem
that could be life threatening,
it's called serotonin syndrome,
where you have too much serotonin
and you can't like take it out of your system enough.
So then it starts to build up
and it causes like muscle rigidity,
like severe fatigue and a whole bunch of other things. So you got to be careful if you don't take any of those medicines, you don't have an
issue with serotonin uptake, you can take it on a daily basis to kind of help you
with boosting your your cognitive function, memory function, mitochondrial
which is a little itty bitty thing
that's in each cell.
It actually helps detoxify your mitochondria to help,
it's one of those aging things
to help your cell turnover better.
It's a big, big thing now.
And I think it was because RFK did it on an airplane
after something, I think after congressional hearings,
they caught him putting it in his drink.
Really?
Yeah, a liquid form.
So that's how you take it?
It's a liquid form or you can get a pill form.
And obviously make sure if you're gonna get it,
it's gotta be third party tested.
You gotta know where you're getting it from.
Like pharmaceutical. Correct.
Like get a prescription.
You don't need a prescription.
Well, like just go on a really good supplement.
Like where I got this from, you would go to a good website.
A good website.
And then I have compounding pharmacies
that actually make it.
You can either get the pill form or the oral form.
If you do the oral form, be prepared,
your teeth will turn blue.
I mean, for the time being that you're on it.
I mean, at least say to drink like orange juice with it
and it kind of counteracts the blue color.
So why would he take it in a liquid form?
Because his teeth are going to turn blue.
Well, I mean, if you counteract it with vitamin C,
vitamin C kind of makes it not be blue anymore.
It doesn't keep them blue.
It's just like for the time being, don't smile.
Yeah, I don't want that.
That's interesting.
So cognitively.
Oh yeah, like really, really good for your memory.
And it like boosts, like gives you energy.
If you're gonna take it, take it in the morning.
Don't take it at bedtime.
Cause it literally, like if you have ADHD,
it helps you like refocus.
A lot of people who've been taking it
have come off their ADHD medication.
They're over there like, this might be a miracle drug.
This is another miracle.
You should see Tracy and Vanessa over there
looking at each other like, what?
Memory?
That's interesting.
Cause I can't remember squat.
I can't either anymore.
But I don't think it's cause of I have any problem.
I think it's just because I can't remember because I've never been able to remember anything.
It's worth a try.
Well, within reason I can't remember things.
But sometimes it's just because there's too much going on up here.
And we have our phone. We have access to Google.
We have access to chat.
What do we need to remember?
We don't exercise our brain as much as we do.
No, I remember back in the day, I used to be able to, like, if you asked me phone numbers,
addresses, everything, I knew them.
And now because-
I know.
We don't have to activate that.
I only know my mom's, my husband's and mine.
I don't even know my kid's phone number.
Same.
I don't even know if I know that many.
That's sad.
Me and Tommy were at the beach, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was like, I think I'm gonna throw my phone away
cause we didn't have service.
So it was like really nice.
We weren't on our phones at all.
He's like, I think I'm just gonna get like a mobile phone
and an iPad to post all this stuff on social media.
I have to.
And he's like, but he's like, I'm done with my phone.
Cause he's like, I can't never remember anything.
He's like, he just needs this peptide.
But he always longs for, Tommy, longs for the simple life.
Like he likes not, he's just a simple person.
He could go out and live on the side of a mountain
and make it.
Sounds like his dad.
Good for him though.
Yeah.
But most people don't, like they live for these devices.
Right. Listen, it's a dopamine, every time you touch it, But most people don't, like they live for these devices.
Like-
Listen, it's a dopamine.
Every time you touch it, it releases dopamine.
So people get addicted to that dopamine.
That's crazy.
Just by touching it?
Yeah.
I mean, any kind of screen, right?
Have you seen the kids about Cocomelon?
Yeah, I think you sent that to me.
That's frightening.
You showed that, didn't you Tracy?
We talked about it last time.
That Cocoa Melon video.
Natalie brought it up last time.
We talked about this last time.
Put that on though, if you can find it.
I don't know.
If you can't, don't worry about it.
Yeah, I don't know what it was,
but we talked about it last time.
We talked about it last time.
I mean, Cocoa Melon,
I never seen it. It's the way that they,
they do their programming so that it changes like every so many seconds.
So the kids are literally like becoming addicted to it.
Or, you know, people call them iPad babies too.
I mean, a lot of people are,
that's all they give is their screen
and kids become addicted to it.
For dinner, I mean, they go to a restaurant
and they give the kid an iPad.
I mean, I just, I would have to sit there and be quiet
when we went to dinner.
So did I.
Or that you were stuck at the kid table.
We didn't go out to dinner.
Even if I was at the kid table, we were to be quiet.
Like you could talk, but you had to like,
you had to like,
You had to whisper.
You had to be like not, you seen and not heard.
Correct, seen and not heard.
That is, that's the way it was back in the 70s and 30s.
And there ain't nothing wrong with that.
Cause kids were way better then than they are now.
But man, oh man, for a child to like,
I remember, I think Tracy showed that to me.
You must've sent that to her or something.
I don't know, how did I see that?
Probably Natalie.
Maybe you sent it to me.
Yeah, I think it was Natalie.
I could not believe the reaction of that child.
I mean, if I was a parent
and those parents were not bothered by it at all.
Oh no, not at all.
Just give them more, that's all they did.
Give it to them to shut them up.
I would be devastated
if my kid was like doing that.
So Methylene Blue is one of the ones
that I've been diving into, but there are so many,
like I told Vanessa when I came, the peptide world and the peptide therapies that are out
there just to help with longevity and aging, kind of slow it down a little bit.
It's insanity.
I know that back in biblical times when they were living to 900 years of age, I know they
didn't look like we look like at 70 and 80.
Okay, and that's there's reasons for it's because what they were eating and how they were living,
the stress level on people will age you alone.
And I just think that again, it goes back to living a simple life and eating properly.
And they actually exercised every day.
Well, they had to work.
They had to work the field to eat.
And they were in the sun and that didn't age them.
Nope.
And they didn't have cancer, skin cancer from the sun.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I believe skin cancer is huge by like the sunscreen
that we're putting on our face.
I am not like, I can't say that enough.
Also the sunglasses, a lot of times they're saying sunglasses.
When you're out in, and we talked about this too before,
when you're out in the sun and you have just your eyes
adjusting to the strength in the sun and you have just your eyes adjusting
to the strength of the sun,
your body's able to turn around and react.
So it knows to like increase melanin production
to kind of protect you from getting a serious sunburn.
Whereas we all go out and put our sunglasses on
so our body is unable to justify
and figure out how much sun is actually out there.
Isn't that interesting?
Yeah, I don't wear sunglasses, but I mean, I have, but.
Mine automatically like darken.
Especially in Florida, like you cannot see.
And your eyes water and you're like, ah, ah.
It's terrible.
It's not like when I lived in Virginia,
you could literally function without.
I could look directly into the sun.
In the morning time, right?
Not during like.
All the time.
You can right now?
Yeah.
Cause you don't wear sunglasses?
Uh-uh.
But I think it's because I have dark brown eyes.
I can't look into anything.
I can't.
I can't.
But I have blue eyes.
But we all have blue eyes.
Yeah.
I mean, oh my gosh.
Like I feel like I'm gonna die. I feel like I'm gonna die in my eyes water. You can't. But I have blue eyes. But we all have blue eyes. Yeah. I mean, oh my gosh. Like I feel like I'm gonna die and my eyes water.
You can't open your eyeballs.
It doesn't matter.
I'm bougie.
That's amazing.
You need to look into that.
I'll look into that for next time.
As Jojo says, I have, my eyes are the color of diarrhea.
So he was like eight years old.
He's like, mom, you know what?
Your eyes are the color of diarrhea.
My face looks babe.
Oh my gosh, well what color is his eyes?
They're like a hazel.
Oh.
I know it.
We can't go back on them then.
So observant.
I know.
There's no rebuttal to that.
No, there's not.
No, there isn't.
Cause hazel eyes are beautiful.
Yes.
Out of the mouth of babes.
I know.
I know.
And he was so innocent about it.
Right.
He didn't mean it.
He wasn't trying to be mean.
He was being observant.
He was just speaking truth.
Right.
Yep.
But I think that's why I can, like the sun or like light,
I'm not sensitive to it at all.
See, I am.
I'm there, yeah.
And your eyes are blue too, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very sensitive. I always have sunglasses on.
Yeah, Tom's are green.
He never lives without sunglasses, ever.
Yeah, my husband doesn't either.
And his are more like a hazel, a brownish green.
Interesting, interesting.
Let's go to the next question.
It says, what is one thing that is a trend right now
that you think might cause more harm than good?
This one stumped me. I honestly can't think of, well,
let me put this way.
There's tons of things out there that everyone thinks is good. IE, iPads,
telephones. I think those are going to turn around and bite us,
but the way technology is just moving so fast,
people aren't really gonna see that.
As in healthcare and these new trends with health,
to be honest, I haven't really dove into that.
So I can't really answer that question.
Not honestly anyway.
Is there anything in the medical profession,
see for me like ozempic?
I think it has a lot of great things,
but the thing is, is like, there's been some stuff
that's come out like bone density and stuff like that.
Yeah, so the GLP, you talked about the GLP ones.
I know you're not big on ozempic specifically,
you think that there's other ones that are better than that.
Yeah, ozempic is the bottom of the line.
I mean, it's like the basic, I think terzepatide,
which is Mungero is better.
And if you do it, so here's the problem.
I think a lot of doctors just write a script
and send you on your way.
And then they don't-
This is why I asked the question,
because there's always just like the popcorn lung,
there's always, it's twofold.
Correct. It's not always what people think. So I'm so glad.
So GLP ones are not only good just for diabetes and losing weight. And you have to remember,
Ozempic has been out or semiglutide has been out for almost 20 years, almost two decades.
And now all of a sudden they're saying, oh, it causes gastroparesis, which is horrible,
like vomiting.
You can't control it.
It's uncontrolled vomiting.
It can cause the bone density.
Well, a lot of doctors just prescribe and then don't say, listen, because it's going
to drop how much you're taking in nutrient-wise, where are you going to have to substitute
and say, I got to change my habits.
I got to eat more protein.
I got to make sure I'm keeping up with my calcium,
vitamin D, K, all these different minerals
that you kind of like totally shock the body
and you take away when you're on the medication,
like hair loss, the bone density, losing their eyesight.
Well, you think about it, you're taking the medicine,
it's giving you a caloric deficit,
not just on your calorie intake,
but also your nutrition intake.
And if you're not compensating and putting that back in,
it's gonna cause that.
It's gonna happen.
So you can't just say, okay, here's the prescription,
go on your way.
And most doctors do that today.
They just say, okay, here's the protocol, I'm gonna give you this prescription go on your way and most doctors do that today. They just say okay here's the protocol I'm gonna give you this and go on your
way. I personally prescribe terzepatide. I'm not a big component on
semiglutide so I don't even touch on that one. But I also tell my patients
listen you have to do a minimum of a hundred grams of protein a day. 100, 120.
You need to make sure you're drinking. You need to make sure you're drinking. You
need to make sure you're drinking fluid so you don't get the constipation that
comes along with it. As we get older we all have a decreased in gastric enzymes
and stuff that breaks down the food and with it sitting in your stomach longer
because that's what it does it kind of like slows down your gastric outlet. You
need to take digestive enzymes. You need to be doing probiotics. You need to be adding back in the nutrients
that you're not taking in when you eat.
I see those different things and I'm like,
it wasn't, I mean, I'm sure it's not that it wasn't
the ozempic and I know that you're not a big fan of it
because I, and I don't understand why,
but I'm just saying even then I'm not,
it's not necessarily the ozempic.
It was not side effects,
but it's the things that caused you not to be able
to have these situations.
It's not the ozempic,
it was things that you didn't do that you should have done
in order to not have those things happen.
And I'm like, I don't think like it's, it just makes no sense to me that blindness is a side effect.
It's not a side effect. If you would have ate properly, you probably would not have had that side effect.
It's blindness, difficulty seeing, starting to like lose your vision.
Well, what is the major one vitamin that's decreased in that vitamin A?
Now, it doesn't mean you go out and get a bottle and just start like sucking down on vitamin A. I mean that's kind of like what the measles thing.
People are just taking tons of vitamin A and overdosing on them. People that are
trying that aren't immunized, they're doing that. You can't just do that. You
have to make sure that you're taking it in the proper way and you're replenishing
the nutrients that you took out when you're taking the medication
because you're just you're not hungry. Right. You're not hungry so what do you got to
focus on? You got to focus on your diet. You got to focus on making sure you're
eating whole foods foods that actually matter not like all these empty calories.
Most people go on it and still do the same thing they want. They go to
McDonald's, they go to Wendy's, they go to, oh, I'm just going to sit here and eat my chicken wings, or I'm going
to eat this fat food, or I'm going to, you can't do that. No, and they don't do supplements. But
the other thing too is a lot of like, it depends on too, how long you stay on it. If it's not going
to be, if it's not something that you're going to stay on a long period of time, I don't think that
that's a real big concern,
even though I think you should do all of those things.
But a lot of people go on it and they stay on these.
Well, here's my thing.
I was Zempik again,
it's been around for almost two decades.
And until they started using it for weight loss,
you really didn't hear a bunch of this stuff.
No, never.
I didn't even know it was around for 20 years.
So people are like, well, if you're taking it
for weight loss, this is what side effects
you're gonna have.
Well, then all the people that were taking it
for diabetes would have been having the same side effects.
So what is it that's different?
People just can call a number, get put on a medication
and they're never followed up.
They're not being coached on how to actually change what habits they were doing to
gain the weight and the medicine is there to kind of help you along the way.
You got to add the supplementation back in and on top of it most of us are
nutrient deficient because our food is nutrient deficient. Which is a part of the whole thing anyway.
Correct.
The big problem.
It's a huge problem.
And again, you didn't hear about all the side effects
until people started using it for weight loss.
And actually somebody said that, and I laughed at her.
I said, oh, because you're doing it for weight loss,
you're gonna get the side effects.
It's been around for forever in a day. So
well, not forever in a day, but 20 years is a significant amount of time. So now all of
a sudden it's, oh, it's bad to take because you're doing it for weight loss and you're
not doing it for diabetes. And because you're doing it for weight loss, now you're going
to have all these different side effects. And most doctors, what they do is they were
like, okay, you start off on this four weeks later, we're putting you to the next one, four weeks later,
we're putting you to the next dose, four weeks later, and they max you out. You
don't necessarily have to be maxed out on the medicine. If it's doing the
job of keeping your blood sugars down, if it's doing the job and keeping getting
your weight down, then stay on the lowest dose possible. But is that because they
want to have people aggressively drop weight? No it's because the more they have to take the more money they have to dish out. I'm one that's like oh
listen if you're losing a pound a week I'm not gonna increase your medicine. If
you come to a stall then hey yeah let's increase your medicine to the
next dose or maybe go up just a couple of milligrams instead of because you
double it every four weeks and instead of doubling it might let's just go up just a couple of milligrams instead of, because you double it every four weeks. And instead of doubling it, let's just go up by like half.
And if you start to lose weight again,
we'll stay at that dose.
But most places that prescribe it,
because it, I mean, if you're using this much
and they can get you to use this much
and you're paying for this much,
well, how much more money are they gonna get
if you have to for this much, well, how much more money are they gonna get if you have to use this much?
I never even, it never dawned on me.
But it doesn't add up to me.
It doesn't add up to me.
I'm like, all of a sudden, like,
but I didn't know it had been around for 20 years,
but I'm like, how is it possible
that bone density and blindness?
And I'm like, that doesn't make sense to me at all. And again, I think it's the people that are maxing out on it, just to get the highest and blindness. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense to me at all.
And again, I think it's the people
that are maxing out on it,
just to get the highest and quickest.
Everybody wants an instant result.
We live in an instant society,
instead of just saying, okay, let's just work this out
and do it the way you're supposed to do it.
And then if you're losing the weight,
okay, then let's stay on the lower dose.
If it's doing what it's supposed to be doing,
there's no reason to add more medicine. None.
And some providers don't look at it that way. Let's get you to the max dose and
there you go. You're at the max dose and then it's gonna cause more problems.
Well, and plus I think the faster you lose weight, the less apt you are to learn how to eat properly while you're doing it.
Like, what did you change? What was it that you changed while you were on the medicine?
You probably didn't change anything.
No, I tell my patients they need to change it because if you don't, when you come off
of the medicine, you're going to gain it all back.
You're going to gain it back and then some and then you're going to be back in the same
boat again, or you're just going to have to be on it the rest of your life if you want
to continue in that lifestyle with anything.
If you're not willing to change,
like say I get a patient, I do blood work
and I'm like, oh boy, the cholesterol's up,
their A1C is up, which is telling me
that their blood sugar is kind of on the higher side.
I know they're overweight.
Listen, you're like diabetic,
you're pushing to become a diabetic
and you're gonna be on all these meds.
Here's how we can change it. You gotta change it by diet, you gotta pushing to become a diabetic and you're going to be on all these meds, here's how we can change it. You got to change it by diet, you got to change it by lifestyle,
and if a lot of people are like, okay, I'll do that, but then they don't do it, or they decide
to cheat, they don't realize you're going to get to the point where your stomach, your pancreas is
going to be like, I'm not going to produce any more insulin for you. I'm just not going to do it.
So you have to be willing to change the lifestyle that you have. Is it okay to go out and have a greasy cheeseburger every
now and then? Yeah, but that can't be your only type of food. Some people, they can do
that. They have the metabolism. It doesn't do that. It doesn't change them. There's a
lot of people that's totally different. They can't have that. And if you look at
people from the 70s compared to today, you have people, I think it's like one
in three or one in five is considered pre-diabetic now or diabetic, type 2
diabetes. Whoa. That's in America. That's insane. And it's all because of
lifestyle. Fast food.
And some people can handle it.
Some people's metabolisms can do it.
And again, like I've said, this is what my fourth time on.
What one person can do doesn't mean the next person can do it
without having any reprications from it.
Yeah.
That's staggering, though, that it's that many.
It's that many now.
And that's all from diet.
What was that Disney show with Evie and Wally?
Wally?
Right?
Yeah, Wally.
So the people that left Earth, right?
And then he gets up and he gets to see all these people up there and how fat are they?
Because everything was being done for them.
They didn't exercise, they had all their fast food
and they couldn't even walk.
You gotta change your lifestyle.
Yeah, that's tough for people.
And I mean, speaking from somebody who had to
change their lifestyle, I mean, like the girls over there,
like all three of them,
they've always been active.
They've always exercised.
And it wasn't until recently they started saying,
okay, we're gonna have to like watch what we eat
and things like that.
That happened to me late in my 40s,
but they all were athletic or had like,
even though Vanessa had been overweight,
she at least was athletic.
I mean, she had done things and exercised
way younger than me.
So she had muscle underneath there.
So like when she started losing weight and eating right,
it was nothing.
Like it's not even a mental problem for either one of them
or Talia is not even, but for me, like,
I know what people are having to go through
because it is harder.
Like-
And as you get to a certain age,
your metabolism slows down
because you're not getting as much estrogen
that you used to have.
You're not getting as much testosterone
that you used to have or progesterone.
I mean, all your hormones all play a part
in how you metabolize and how your how you how your body works and yeah
Takes the food that you take in and uses it for the energy
And it's harder when you get older you get to you hit that peri-menopausal area and
It's it just makes it a little bit harder. Yeah
Yeah, but some people would say I can't do it. And I get that because I've been there.
Like I never worked out.
I'm in a room where everybody worked out.
When we went all into the gym, they looked great.
Even though we all were carrying extra weight,
they all looked great because even though
they had muscle mass.
So people will say I can't,
because I was 50, how old was I?
Was I 56?
How long have I been doing it?
For two years now?
So I'll be 57.
I was 55.
Like that's not somebody who's in their thirties.
Like they all did it late twenties, thirties, right?
I didn't even do it then.
So people that have excuses
or believe they have an excuse,
you don't have an excuse because-
You gotta change.
You have to change.
You have to.
And it isn't fun necessarily, but once you do it,
you kind of get addicted to it.
But that's our society, at least in America.
It's a huge problem because we have made a culture.
And I said this at the,
I'm back working in the ER PRN, right?
And I said this to one of the nurses, I was like, you came to the hospital because your
kid had one day of 102 fever, no other symptoms.
You run to the, we've created a culture where it's okay to just run and take a pill to fix
everything.
Instead of doing what it's been done for thousands and thousands of years in humanity.
We've created that culture. We've created it's okay to take a pill to change that. It's okay
to take a pill to help you with your depression. It's okay. And then don't get anything on the
backside to help you change or change the circumstances that you're into. You know,
I think part of that is because we we are a very fear-based society.
Well, they've made it that way.
Right.
And part of the reason we're a fair-based society
is because of this thing right here,
because we get news so quickly,
and news is never usually good.
When we're watching things,
usually the only things people wanna pay attention to
are the things that are sensational.
And usually if it's sensational, it's fear-based
or it's sexual in nature and it's like things
that you sit there and go, holy moly,
like what people in society do this or have done that,
you know what I'm saying?
So even that, it's not good.
So all of us being able to get new so quickly
has made us in so many ways be fearful,
but also like you said,
want to be able to have a solution very quickly.
And that's not life.
It shouldn't be life.
Cause I'm the oldest one in this room.
And I remember back in the day,
basically you hurt yourself or you ran a fever or whatever, you slap. And I remember back in the day,
basically you hurt yourself or you ran a fever or whatever, slap mud on it, call it a day, go to school.
Oh, my mom used to be that all the time.
I remember I got so sick one time,
I threw up for a week straight and after a week
and then starting to lose some weight,
that's when my mom finally took me in, finally.
And you didn't go to the hospital.
No.
You went to the doctor's office.
Yeah. And then they were like, okay, put her on,
here's a little bit of fenugreek to kind of help her
get over with whatever she's going through
and put me on jello water.
Remember jello water?
Yeah, just take some gelatin with some water.
And that's what I lived on for a couple of days
until my stomach settled down.
Oh yeah.
And you had to like, God forbid you got sick on a Friday.
You're waiting all week and long.
You did not.
I mean, I broke my arm.
And back in the day, you just went to the ER
and they would stick a cast on you.
You didn't get splinted and then said,
okay, follow up with the orthopedic.
You didn't have all these specialties.
So they just slapped it on me.
And I ended up with gangrene.
After a couple of weeks of my cast just stinking really, really bad, right?
It just smelled so bad.
No one would come near me.
No one, my dad finally, and he kept calling.
They were like, oh no, she's fine.
She's fine.
It's just sweat.
It's just sweat.
It was summertime.
And you know, when, if you ever broke your arm,
you would stick stuff down to itch, right?
We used to do rulers all the time.
Well, no, I had gangrene.
I could have lost my whole arm.
But it took like out of the eight weeks
that you would keep a cast on,
I think I was in it for like four weeks,
maybe four or five.
Before they even did anything.
Before they did anything.
Yeah, it's just a whole different world.
Some ways good, but most ways it's bad.
Yeah, we've just created a culture
that take a pill, it'll fix you.
Take a pill, it'll fix you. Take a pill, it'll fix you.
And it took you so many years to get where you're at. The majority of the people that are like having
issues with weight and stuff like that, or like with a lipoma, it takes years for it to kind of
grow. Or if you like have adhesions, it takes years. So if you're doing your castor oil pack don't expect a instant
Solution solution you have to be consistent even even with
Supplements you can't just okay. I'm gonna start taking this and I want to be fixed by next week No, it's something that you have to be consistent with doing because you won't see the outcome that you're you're wanting from
Oh, yeah, and that's the other thing consistency is gone right out the window. We don't see the outcome that you're wanting from that. Oh yeah. And that's the other thing, consistency has gone right out the window.
We don't do, it's a pet peeve for me in general, okay?
But consistency is the key to everything from supplements.
Like that's for me.
Like I've been told take creatine,
it'll help increase your weight.
Well, I'll take it for the days that I'm working out
and then I won't take it on the others.
Like that's no good, that's consistency though.
And then I get bothered
because you don't increase your weight.
Whose fault is that?
Yours because, but that's anything.
People aren't even consistent in their families.
No, nothing at all. So, for me, it's like if you aren't even consistent in their families. No, nothing at all.
So, for me, it's like, if you can't even be consistent
in those things, let alone, I mean,
just your job for crying out loud,
that's gonna, it's gonna be very difficult
for people to be consistent in eating and maintaining.
I think it's very hard for people.
But I will say, and people tell me this,
if you just start doing it and you apply yourself,
it will get easier.
And it has, and it does.
And same with diet and exercise.
I mean, and you know that.
If you change it and if you need something
to kind of help you jump start where you need to be,
that's fine. Dandy, do it. But make sure you're changing the habits behind it because if you don't,
as soon as you come off, all that's coming back. As soon as you stop, all that's coming back. As
soon as you stop working out, everything that you accomplished over these last two years will be
gone faster. Oh my gosh.
You take one week off.
Like we went when we had to go to Vegas
and we all were working out.
I took that.
I basically took the week off.
When you go back the next week, it is hard.
If you feel like you never worked out before a day
in your life, Tracy's shaking her head.
Yes, because it's so true.
It is same with your prayer life too though it's the same
with your Bible it's reading your Bible all of it it's the same if you're not consistent
you're gonna go backwards I mean Tommy even says that if you don't continue you're gonna go
backwards. If people just like if they focus more on just what it takes to have a good healthy
what it takes to have a good healthy life
from the natural to the spiritual to the physical. And the physical, you do the physical,
the mental I think will go right along with it.
Correct.
I've literally never felt better
and on so many ways have done better.
But eating, you know, everybody will say to you,
well, if you eat right, you'll feel great.
Well, I ate right and I never felt great.
Then they say, if you work out, you'll feel great.
Well, I worked, would work out
and I wouldn't be eating right.
And I still, I feel, I didn't feel anything,
but you put the two together and then you're like, okay,
the combo makes all the difference in the world.
It really does.
So next question, if I can't choose you to be my doctor, how would I be able to tell if a doctor is good or bad?
I think this is such an important question right here.
Your doctor needs to respect your decisions and
he should be giving you what's called informed consent on every single thing
that he decides to do with you.
And he should be your partner in helping you achieve whatever you need instead of just
saying, here's a prescription, go on your way.
A doctor should be able to take his time with you and get to know you instead of just getting
to know what's on a piece of paper.
There's a difference between just looking at numbers and words on a paper than knowing
you.
Agreed.
And here's the thing, like I say this
and you probably will agree with me,
but when you're finding a doctor,
when they, like the doctors that I've gone to,
a lot of times they wanna sit and meet with me
and talk to me.
And it's an interview process.
And I've literally thought to myself,
dude, you're interviewing me, but I'm interviewing you.
Correct, me too.
It's not the way, this is not gonna be
a one-sided situation.
Because if I'm going to trust you,
helping me make decisions,
then I'm gonna interview you and make sure
that you're wise enough to make those decisions.
And some of them have been good, but then there's others that you're just sitting there going,
yeah, no, this ain't, this is not a fit.
Mm-hmm.
You gotta make sure that it's kind of like a lot of people that I've like sent to counseling,
maybe that first person that you went to talk with, you don't connect.
If you don't connect, go the opposite way.
If they're pushing something that you don't feel comfortable, you know, you need to like
make sure you feel comfortable with it and you've got the information that you need to
make an informed decision.
If they're pushing something that you don't feel is right, go find another doctor.
They're out there.
You just have to, a lot of them, when you do find them, they're either hard to get in
or there's a long wait line to get in.
But once you get them, keep them.
Yeah, because they're worth the wait.
I will say that with that being the question,
so the C word that we won't say
because then we'll get banned on everything.
But you know what I mean by the C word?
Okay, so when people, when doctors were trying
to force people to take.
The cupcake.
Yeah, the cupcake.
And they basically said, you won't be my patient
if you don't take the cupcake.
Okay, so that's what you should have said,
but some people said, no, I'll take it.
Now you sent me some information,
whereas Europe is now doctors are beginning,
are being held accountable for giving the cupcake
and then being, there being injuries from it.
Correct.
So, what happens to the doctors that made in America,
you think, or even over there, because I'm sure it happened over there. What happens to the doctors that said if
you don't do this then I'm not, you're not going to stay a patient. So because
they've felt so like vulnerable and they were intimidated by not having them as a physician,
not to have them as a physician.
What do you think's gonna happen
if that transfers over here,
what's happening over in Europe comes over to the States?
Pete, doctors that said basically,
if you don't do this, then I'm dropping you.
What do you think's potentially gonna happen to them?
Like lose everything?
Cause that, I know people that were like,
they won't see me anymore if I don't do this.
Do I think they will?
I don't know if I think they will,
but do I think they should?
I think they should.
I mean.
Cause you had to make some decisions
and you lost a lot of things
because of the decisions you made.
Correct.
So if you sat there and pushed something
and someone got injured for it,
and you sat there and said, I don't know,
I think morality wise,
I don't know how you could look at yourself in the mirror
and say, I'm a physician, I'm here to take care of you,
or I'm a provider and I'm here to take care of you and then
after doing that to somebody that's wrong, that's just like what pediatricians are doing
to parents that are refusing to do vaccinations.
I mean, if a doctor can come in, if you could go to your pediatrician and say, can you tell
me what is in that vaccine?
And they could sit there and tell you and ask you what this and if you could sit there
and say, so what are the side effects for me to my kid to take all this and they
can't answer that then you need to go find someone who can. They're out there
it's just a matter of finding them. You should be able to have and they should
be able to stand behind you with whatever decision you make whatever
beliefs you have. Yeah. They took an oath to take care of you no matter what the cause whatever your beliefs
are that to take care of you. I mean Jehovah's Witnesses they don't take blood. So people
they don't sit there and tell Jehovah's Witness why I'm not going to be your doctor. But if
you don't take certain things whether it's your pediatrician or another doctor, if you're not taking certain things or you're not following their protocol,
and you don't stand for it, I mean,
they need to be able to respect your beliefs and how you feel as well and still be able to give you the best treatment possible.
Agreed. Now Vanessa sent me this.
We're gonna get to, Tracy, I'm gonna have you ask this last question, but Vanessa sent me this. We're gonna get to, Tracy,
I'm gonna have you ask this last question,
but Vanessa sent me this,
and I think this is what,
Vanessa sent me, I think, is so important,
and I even, I think you were going back and forth
with both of us about it, but,
a lot of people don't realize
that human blood is in Botox,
and I didn't even know that
until Vanessa sent me something on-
A byproduct of blood, yeah, it's human albumin, which is blood, right? It's a type of product
that you can get out of out of blood. So if you're a big person on not,
on not, so if you did, if you were against the vaccinations
and, but you're getting Botox, what,
you don't know where that blood's coming from. So what-
And they're not gonna tell you.
Well, like you probably can't.
No.
They're not gonna do the test to go deep dive into that.
So to bring comfort or to maybe wake people up, what Vanessa sent is
somebody who has always done Botox for years now, right? Yeah, they started in their 20s.
And that woman looked like she was in her 30s, right?
Yeah, she was like 50 something years old.
Oh yeah, that's right.
She was 55.
That's right.
That's right.
She's 55.
Okay, she's not been taking it for the last five years.
She's refused to do it because there's blood in Botox
and she did not.
With the C, with the mRNA technology that's come out, how do you know if that's not in
your Botox?
Right.
So, for people who don't know that it's in there, you might want to know that.
But you had been saying something along the lines of, okay, it's a small amount that's
in there, correct? But that small amount potentially can still do damage.
I mean, you're talking mRNA is on a microscopic level.
So how much damage is it going to do?
I mean, that's hard to say, but it's in there.
So could it?
Yeah, it could.
So are you willing to take that risk?
I mean, that's... Yeah, it could. So are you willing to take that risk?
I mean, that's... I mean, that's...
I mean, personally,
if I didn't know anything
and I wasn't like a Christian or whatever,
but I believe in the hand of God, whatever,
but if I was a normal person
and I had been taking Botox
and I was big and adamant on no vaccine,
I might be freaking out right now.
Yeah.
I mean, I might be like freaking out.
Do you think they need to be freaking out?
Depending on how much-
Well, if you're under the blood,
then no, you don't need to be freaking out. No, but if you're just a- Well, if you're under the blood, then no, you don't need to be figuring out.
No, but if you're just a normal person, if you're a normal person, does it depend on
how often you took-
Yeah, well the more you're exposed to it, the higher amounts you're going to have in
your system.
Yeah.
And a lot of women, they, depending on what your look is, you get a lot of units on your
face.
Yeah, if you can pull up exactly where they do like all your injections, depending on what your look is, you get a lot of units on your face. Yeah, you can pull up exactly where they do all your injections, depending on where you
need them.
I mean, you can up here around the eye, around the nasal fold, the mouth, forehead.
I mean, there's a lot of places that they put Botox.
And again, they use Botox for other things too.
Like what do they use Botox for?
Migraines, we talked about this migraine
for like excessive sweating.
I forgot about the migraines.
Totally forgot about that.
TMJ, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Holy moly.
But a lot of people didn't even know that.
Oh, look, there's Johnny on the spot right there.
Yeah, it's a little blurry for some reason,
but those, just so you can see the dots.
That's a lot.
People put them on the lip even.
Yeah, right here, especially if you smoked,
you definitely need,
cause you get those fine lines from puckering all the time.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a lot of spots.
And depending on where you want it to go, then, I mean, what part of your face you want to
look better.
I mean, not do they do it all at one time?
Maybe not.
But yeah, that's a lot.
That's wild.
I mean. It's temporary, so you have to go every like six months.
Yeah, because it doesn't last.
Okay, Vanessa, that was my point too,
because like how often do you get it?
But I didn't even know, like, I'm only thinking like forehead and like,
never did I know it was that many places,
let alone the frequency is what I was talking about,
not necessarily, I didn't know all of those places.
And then you add in the other,
yeah, somebody might be freaking out,
you're absolutely right about that.
Because that's a lot if you go every six months.
Some people go more than that, correct?
Not necessarily.
I don't know.
I think that's average average.
Average of six months.
Wow.
OK, not that there's nothing there's no reprieve for anybody.
Huh?
Not that I looked into it or anything or anything.
Well, listen, we all know people who,
we all know people who get it.
I know, I know.
I'm a Botox version though, just for the record.
I've never done it, but I have thought about it.
I have, I'd be lying.
I'd be lying if I said I've never thought about it.
My sister's done it.
So I have a question.
What's the difference between like shedding?
So like if somebody just got a vaccine
and they were shedded on versus like this, for instance,
is one like worse than the other?
Cause I remember one time Pastor Rodney actually said
that he had been around people that had just been vaccinated
and he, his doctor said that he had been like shedded on
by vaccine.
So is there like a difference between like taking the chance
of being around people that are vaccinated?
No.
And getting like Botox?
No.
Okay.
No, you have a higher dose with the vaccine
than you do with the Botox
and the amount of mRNA that could be in there.
But like just being shedded on,
like you could get more versus like if you were shedded on
would I have as much mRNA as I could if I got Botox?
Like good question.
Do you understand like the-
I do understand what you're trying to say.
Okay, can you say it differently?
That's a good question.
That's just, I don't know.
That's like virus related though, right?
That's not where it gets in your bloodstream.
Like Botox is in your bloodstream.
When people shed, it's not in your bloodstream, correct?
I thought you could just get the virus
that they were the shot they were provided, correct?
That's correct.
That's what I thought that shedding was.
But you know what?
Can it get into your bloodstream?
That's a good question for people
who would freak out over that.
Right.
I don't think so.
I don't think so either.
But whereas Botox does get in your bloodstream and that's where it over that. Right. I don't think so. I don't think so either, but whereas Botox does get in your bloodstream
and that's where it, okay.
That's good.
Hmm. Okay.
Okay, now, Tracy.
What's your last number seven question?
You're gonna be able to explain this better.
Am I? Okay, I'll try.
Okay, so Natalie, I have heard that there
are a lot of false negatives or false positives.
And that's the reason because of it.
So I'll read the question.
I've heard stories of people going in and getting tested
to later find out it was a false positive.
Is there a way to avoid the stress of a false positive?
And so what I heard, one of my friends
worked in the medical field.
And she said there is no consistent way
to transport the blood.
It goes into a cold van and then comes out of a cold van.
And then it's not being kept cold anymore.
And then it goes into the hospital setting.
And so that could be a reason why people are.
I mean, you could have false positive.
Well, it could be the way that it's collected,
it could be what's in the tube,
it could be the sensitivity of the test.
I mean, to actually not have a false positive,
to like, is there a way not to,
just don't get tested, unfortunately.
I mean, a lot of people end up with a false positive,
and unless you stop and sit there and go,
hey, wait, let's retest again before you treat,
that would be the only way to really determine
if it is a false positive or not.
Okay, okay.
Because they do that with false positives
with children that have been considered special needs,
things like that.
Have you heard that?
Because a lot of them get,
except for the ambiotic fluid one,
that when they do that, that's more accurate.
But a lot of times people will have these tests taken.
With the blood.
For over 35, I think it is.
And the majority of them,
there's a large majority of them are false positives.
That's again where I would sit there and say,
I wanna be retested.
And whether you say,
A, I wanna be retested and use a different facility use a different mode
of transportation use a different mode of reagent that they use to do the
testing that's where I would say hey I want to be retested I know when I was
pregnant with my second child they did a whole big huge panel on me and they said
I tested positive for an STD and I was like there's no way there's no way I mean even my husband was like what. And I was like, there's no way, there's no way.
I mean, even my husband was like, what, what, what?
And I'm like, there's no way you need to retest me.
I said, you're retesting me.
You are retesting me right now.
And when they retested me, the second one was normal.
So, I mean, it can happen with anything.
Yeah.
So you just, I would say, ask to be retested.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
It happens a lot, even with hearts.
Oh, it happens with, I mean, it could be anything.
People don't realize that.
It could happen with anything.
You need to be retested.
And that goes back to the question about
if you have a doctor that you wanna know is good,
if you sat there and said,
hey, I want a second opinion,
or I would like another, you know, look at it,
if they're okay with it and they say, okay, yeah,
that's fine, keep that doctor.
Cause if they sat there and say, no, this is exactly,
this is what the protocol says,
this is what we're following, blah, blah, blah.
Then I would sit there and say, adios to that doctor.
Well, I mean, I think I would get retested
on a lot of things unless, especially cause people go in
and have major heart surgery done based on a test
that was actually
Not accurate and there and like there are surgeons that say they're not accurate. Yeah
And it can happen with anything it can happen like when they do like a cancer test or I mean there's false positives come back all the time even
Even when they were doing kovat false positive all the 80, even when they were doing COVID, false positive. 80% were wrong.
If you, like if you're eating Cheetos
and you go to do a strep test,
you gotta make sure that there's none in there
cause it can pull up a false positive.
I mean, there's certain things that can just end up
making a false positive.
So always ask for a retest.
Oh, that's exactly what I would do.
I would never, which I don't think a lot of people know that
that was a good question.
I don't know who sent that in.
Was that your question Tracy,
or did somebody send that in?
You said it was a good question.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's fine.
That was yours?
Only if it was a good question.
Oh.
So you didn't ask them.
Yeah. Well, I wasn't sure.
Well, we're gonna ask one more
cause there's one more question that people had
and I wanted to ask two of mine
because I thought they were better.
But no, I already asked them.
So I was gonna skip that one.
But, and I don't wanna use that word, but we will.
It says, do you think we'll experience
another worldwide pandemic in our lifetime?
Yes.
I do too.
It's probably gonna scare the crap out of people, but.
Will it be a plandemic or will it be a pandemic?
For sure.
They're already planning.
The problem is, is anybody who's,
I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist,
but anybody that's been watching anything,
they've already been saying.
Anybody that like the political realm,
the world economic forum,
all of them, they're all saying we're gonna have another one.
So for me, it's like, thank you for telling us.
Yeah, just know it's coming, what exactly it is.
I mean, they've already tried with the,
the bird flu.
Bird flu, that's the one I was thinking of.
Yeah, they've already tried with that.
The odds that it will be very deadly
are probably not that high.
The problem is, is you have a government,
not just ours, you have governments across the entire world
that have been playing around in biological warfare.
So once there's already biological warfare
and they're doing tons of testing.
Testing and-
Something could get released
that none of them want released.
Correct.
Cause that's happened before.
Correct.
I mean, people might not know history,
but if you study history out, there have been accidents.
They were not good and lots of people died.
Correct.
So yeah, I believe there's another one.
When?
Don't know, it all depends.
But on that note, we'll end on a downer.
Oh no, let's end on a good note.
I don't have any more questions.
Does anybody have any questions?
Yeah, there was one question.
Natalie has, if you have any time, she said,
is bloating a symptom of menopause?
If so, why?
Is bloating?
Bloating.
It can be, yeah.
Part of inflammatory in your body,
just not being able to detoxify out the inflammation that's
going on in your body.
So yeah, bloating.
What can they do for that?
I would do a good probiotic.
Watch what you're eating. Probiotics
are really good. You can also do a good gut cleanse. A good gut detox will help with that as well.
Is that this right here? No, there's other ones. This is, well, this does metals and parasites.
That's the, that's the good stuff, the metals. So a lot of times,
bloating could be like an overgrowth of bacteria in the gut that you need to like
have cleaned out, yeah.
Anybody else?
That's it. That's it.
Hot diggity.
Well, that's not really on a high note.
I know.
It's good enough.
Yeah.
It's way better than the other.
Yeah.
So whoever, it's gotta be a girl
cause you're in premenopause.
Yeah, it is.
Way to go.
Natalie's on TikTok. so follow her on TikTok.
Follow her on TikTok.
Do we have her little thingy?
Yeah, definitely follow her.
You can watch her in her off time.
I'm trying to come up with videos.
I'm just nervous to do videos.
Why?
She'll give you content ideas.
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Yes, tons.
I can help you.
We'll help you.
Yeah.
We got you.
We got you.
Listen, they and chat GPT, they're like this.
Just the throuple over here.
It is.
Oh my gosh.
That's true.
So yeah, what's your handle on a tick tock?
I think it's Natalie FNP.
I think it is.
Okay.
I'm live on tech talks.
I can't look right now.
I think I'm friends with you.
I think it's.
Let's look.
You like something, I'm like, oopsie. I know.
It's just Natalie Iverson.
Yeah, Natalie Iverson.
Yeah. Perfect.
That's easy.
I still can't figure it out.
Oh, there you are right there.
Yeah.
Yeah, Natalie Iverson.
What Vanessa said.
Exactly.
Okay, and this is all of our information too.
So if you want her to be your doctor
and your local grabber.
And I do telehealth throughout the state of Florida.
Just so people know.
So if they're looking for integrative medicine
and functional medicine, yeah.
What are some examples of that?
I'm sorry?
What are some examples of those two things you just said?
Integrative?
Integrative uses allopathic with functional,
kind of brings them together.
Okay.
Well, you know, it's also, it's what I love about,
and I tell everybody about this,
I always say it's a concierge service.
Like, if you want like the best of the best,
if you think that, like it's an old fashioned doctor,
that's what it is.
And house calls and-
House calls to Lee, Charlotte and Sarasota County.
I don't really go any further.
Well, I've done DeSoto County too,
cause that's pretty cool.
I'm kind of in the middle.
But nobody does that anymore.
And I'm telling you, we love it.
Very few.
I'm a fan.
Oh, I'm a huge fan.
Yeah.
Well, you know, people are so weird
about going to a doctor's office.
Yeah.
It's so weird.
But when the doctor comes to your environment,
like people are so weird,
they're either scared or they don't want to be around
other sick people.
So she comes to you.
Yep.
You can't get any better than that.
I know.
So yeah, give her a call.
Did you need to do your sponsor?
Oh my gosh.
I, you know, I do need to do my sponsor,
but I can't do my sponsor because I don't have my verbiage
because I don't have my computer
because I left my computer at home today.
On accident.
I went to find it before the podcast.
That's why when you weren't here,
when I didn't see you, but you were here,
I was like, I'm in trouble.
I screwed up the day.
I'm like, I could have sworn she was coming. I'm like, I'm in big trouble. Well up the day. I'm like, I could have sworn she was coming this.
I'm like, I'm in big trouble.
Well, you know what I did?
My husband's like, what time do you have to leave?
I said, oh, I have to leave at three.
Oh my.
And then I was sitting there and I went, wait a minute.
No, I have to leave the house by two
because it starts at three.
So I was here on time.
Yeah.
I actually left at two.
It was just traffic is like,
Terrible.
Horrendous.
True. It's terrible. It's horrendous. True, ugh, true.
It's terrible.
It's the worst.
Yeah, no, I'll double up.
I'll beg for forgiveness.
They're easy going, but well, thank you guys for joining us.
Be here on Sunday because it is Baptism Sunday.
With the new carpet?
Yeah, with the new carpet.
Not this Sunday.
We got provisions made.
Not this Sunday.
Not this Sunday. Oh, it's not this Sunday.
Wait a minute, that's right.
This Sunday is the 6th of April.
Yep, we're still in March.
My bad.
Yep.
You know, I literally thought,
I had been making provisions in my office right now
for the first Sunday in April.
You have a whole other week and a whole week.
You're ahead of the game.
I'm lost, man.
I had my calendar in April.
Nope.
Nope.
Not yet.
You're, yeah.
Tuesday, April Fool's Day.
You're good.
You're still good.
Then I would have missed Brinley's birthday.
Yeah.
Now I'll miss Brinley's.
So, okay, so it is not baptism Sunday,
but we do have new carpet.
So you're gonna definitely wanna be here.
Come check it out.
Yeah. Check it out.
Check it out.
Good stuff.
Leave your coffee at. Oh my gosh... Oh my gosh. No coffee. No
coffee. No coffee. Please. The love of Pete. Just please. Especially for the greeters.
Come on. Don't let me be the bad guy. Oh my gosh. Yeah, because Vanessa's gonna be there
and she's nice. She's a hard time. I do want to be nice. I don't want to be the bad guy.
She'll drop you just as soon as look at you if you try and get in there. Yeah.
She'll bring the thug life out on you.
I might have to wear my hoops on Sunday.
There you go.
You might have to.
I think you're gonna have to.
They change everything.
They do.
I'm back to myself.
I know, I know it does.
If I ever, I need confidence,
I always bring out the hoops.
You're as big as I have.
Oh, you need bigger, baby.
Yeah, you gotta go bigger.
Go big or go home.
For real, when it comes to the hoops, especially.
So we'll see you on Sunday.
Thanks for joining us.
And if you don't live in the area,
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Thank you for joining us and have a great weekend.
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