The Hope Hotline - Special Guest today, Kristi Delgado!

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Special Guest Kristi Delgado will be on the podcast today sharing her testimony of miracles and faith.

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But there's so much faith and hope to your stories that you have. I just learned one while we were at lunch. You're going to tell it. For all you OCD weirdo wackos about food, and when I say that, there's balance to everything. But people are OCD about not just food, just about cleaning, and your story is going to make people free

because it's as quickly as turning off the faucet and not being like that anymore and you can actually be like that people know you can't it's not possible once you hear the story you're going to be like dear lord you were that was without a deliverance uh an exorcism or anything on uh. You just actually just said, it's going to be like this. So I'm going to make her tell the story. But just great stuff. Anybody who's a business owner or trying to start a business, I'm just telling you, she's a wealth of hope and faith and goals.

Do you know what I'm saying? Thank you. Been in ministry, is as a pastor but has a business like the whole spectrum today tune in don't turn this off because I'm not going to be answering questions because this probably this podcast is going to be far superior to answering questions that I could have answered today so okay this is Christy Delgado, who I love. She's in the River Sphere. This is what Tom and I always say. This is one of the people that we've been blessed to get to know just through Pastor Rodney and the group. Now, you actually worked for Pastor Rodney.

You went to the River School. I did. You worked for him. How long did you worked for him how how how long did you work for him i went to bible school in 2005 to 2007 so that was two years i was in school then i uh he started the great awakening tours where he traveled around the united states and um i probably served for about a year but i was you know and then i became you know on their kind of like uh contracted staff you know for the other two years on the road and so I we would we'd go around the US we would teach people how to win souls at that church every night pastor had a service where he filled the fill the congregation up with a fire then they would come out the next day to win souls and so we would teach them how to win souls and then go out on the streets in their local area to go and just, you know, win the loss.

You can do it. It's that easy. So I did that for about three years in total. And, yeah, it was just such an honor and blessing and just really, really a great opportunity. If you don't go to it, we do soul winning here at Archer. So we have a guy who heads it up who actually was trained by a couple people at the river. But soul winning is huge. So if you're not doing that, that's kingdom business. We're to win the lost and disciple believers. That's the point of everything. That's what Jesus said. That's

what John the Baptist, everybody that was somebody, that's what they did. That's what Paul was. He's the biggest soul winner out there. So that's our job first and foremost. So then you meet your husband, which is, we don't have time for that story, but it's pretty good. I will just tell you. I love that story. You meet your husband, you start a family. Okay. So let's see a picture of her family. That's a good looking family. Tell us a little bit about your family tell us about each one of those beautiful people okay my oldest is Gabby she's 10 she'll be 11 in December my son is Luca he'll be 7 in also December we have three December birthdays I'm also in December oh my my son's in December what's what's your birthday I'm the 16th Tommy's 17 okay

then Gabby the oldest she's the 29th oh my goodness and then Luca his birthday's on the 16th. Tommy's 17. Okay. Then Gabby, the oldest, she's the 29th. Oh, my goodness. And then Luca, his birthday's on the 7th. So we're busy. Oh, fun. It's a great day. Yeah, it is a great day. Day of infamy.

Yeah. And then my youngest, Kelly, she was born. Actually, the message Pastor preaches is the day of the heaps. It was that day she was born. No way. So even more to that story. Oh, my. She was born on that day he preached that message.

Oh, my gosh. So she's our harvest of heaps just in the beginning okay so what i want you to do is look at these little faces obviously that's her husband miguel yes great guy like listen i i remember hearing him preach for the first time when pastor rodney called him up i think it was last year right after you guys been been called and been put under. That was actually the night we were ordained. Was that the night you were ordained? Okay, see, I knew. I either watched it on TV or I was there.

So listen, he gets up. I never heard him preach before. I leaned over to Tom. I'm like, dang, he's good. Like, you just got ordained. And he was, oh my my gosh it was good so um remember all these faces because they're that's my son um remember all those faces because um you're going to she's going to when she tells the story i want you to hit in order to get to the last birth we have to talk

about the first and the second yeah yeah so that it's all explained so remember these little faces okay so next thing is I want everybody to know is you guys we're gonna fast track to having a family. Then let's go really fast for people who are wanting to start a business, have a business. You're struggling. You don't know like, how's this all going to work out? I know God's told me to start this business, but man, this is rough. Money is rough. Employees are rough. The whole thing, right? Starting a business is a faith journey. It is. And if you don't quit, you get to the other side. But tell us, okay, so tell us about your business. Tell us the name of it. And I have Tracy, you have the name of it for us too. So

she'll be popping that up in case you guys ever need it for future purposes. Okay. Yeah, go ahead. Our company's name is Zone 5. It's a solar company. We have a roofing company as well. And just recently, we're moving into the renewable energy home automation department. Oh my gosh. So it goes with what we're talking about at lunch. Absolutely. But we do ACs and water heaters. We've recently just started doing the spray foam. And Zone 5 kind of has this, like, spacey vibe to it, so we're calling it Space Foam because it's up on the top, you know. Yeah.

And it's pretty cool. And, you know, for us, we use our business to disciple people. You know, a lot of times people, you know, think kingdom business is about making money to go fund the gospel. But what was Jesus' about his father's business? He was about souls. So really, kingdom business is about souls. And so we use this opportunity.

Don't look at her. Sorry. She's taking your picture. Sorry. That's Norma. That's the camera. I don't know. I'm just.

Yeah, go ahead. Listen. It's all getting used to it. Get the cane and remove me. Yeah. They're not like Pastor Rodney. Sorry. Like Pastor Rodney has cameras everywhere.

Right. Yeah. Okay. And so we really use our platform to win souls. Yeah. We use it to raise up disciples. We put the fire of God in our people. Everybody is accountable.

So we have a couple of offices across Florida. I think we're at five offices. And each one is connected to a holy ghost and fire church so that way they teach they're taught the principles on how to make money but then they're held accountable whether it's through us this is before we got ordained you know to with the local pastor to serve at the local church that we're connected with which you know tends to be river churches because we have river west palm with pastor yeah glory and then we have we're talking about river fort myers yeah pastor daniel and then river

orlando pastor alex and then of course river tampa you know with um pastor rodney and and so a lot of that just came about with so we can connect you know the majority the the mass of our you know of our people to stay connected stay stay plugged in, tithing, you know. So a lot of times they always say the body of Christ, like, one or 10% tithe. If you're lucky. Yeah. It's like 12% for the longest time. So you have to teach these principles, you know, especially, you know,

we have a lot of people that have come right off, not the streets like homeless, but, you know, out of the world. Oh, yeah. People knocking on their doors. We just recently had this amazing, this amazing guy in West Palm. Uh, one of our reps knocked on his door to sell him solar. Uh, that wasn't a solar sale. So then, um, he's like, I'm here for a soul. We have a, we have a phrase in our company called souls before sales. And so if it's not a sale, it's obvious soul. And so, uh, uh the guy leads leads the guy to the door

um at you know to the lord he gets saved tells him hey there's a kingdom business at this church which happened to be the kingdom business my husband just spoke at um you should come he comes and he's like vibrating he doesn't know anything about like the power of god the move of god and you know my husband prays for him at the end of the kingdom business. Then he just almost got like instant download of, you know, the kingdom, the Bible. He doesn't know anything. And so, and now he's plugged in. He's doing great with our company, being held accountable, submitting.

You know, so we have to teach these principles. So for us, we just use our business as a platform for the gospel. And then it multiplies. And of course, you know, if you're seeking first the kingdom and its righteousness, so the character is the righteousness part, all of these things will be added unto you. So we don't want to focus on that part because we're putting it, we're putting the emphasis on the kingdom winning souls and then the righteousness, which is the character.

Yeah. Now, when do you, when you start, how did you start this business and what made you do that? Well, uh, without going into the whole kid part of it, my husband made a deal with the Lord and, um, he, he sold his last like $250. We were, we were, um, we were 250, we were $200,000 in debt. We were six months behind our mortgage. Um, he and I, you know, even like unity in our house wasn mortgage um he and i you know even like unity in our house wasn't quite there because you know i'm the one that went to bible school thinking that i'm supposed to have some platform but now i'm stuck at home with kids yeah you know i didn't i didn't have the right mentality you know and then my my husband was just like uh just didn't

have the character to continue to move forward and uh you know there you know the bible says that the wealth the wicked is laid up for the just. And I'm thinking, man, if we're declaring the words of word of God over us and we're not seeing the fruit, maybe the Lord's just making us just because we're not just yet. Maybe there's shady stuff in our heart. And so that timeframe, the Lord was just working on us. And so my husband made a deal with the Lord. And, um, and, and part of what he shares is that if, if he asked the Lord, if you allow me to be the third company to rise up out of this place, which was the river Tampa, cause he was working with other sales companies from previous time. I went to Bible

school with a lot of those sales guys and, um, other owners would, would almost like prostitute the anointing from these workers and then make millions of dollars and none of it comes back to the church. That was with one company. Then the second company, same thing happens. A lot of Bible school students from the river come, they get plugged in, they make a bunch of money with the sales company and that guy, the owner of that company, sells his company. I think makes like, I don't know, 50, I think it was like $2 billion. And his tithe was like, I don't know, $5 million. But instead of his tithe being $5 million to the church, it goes to the Mormon church. Because it was a Mormon company.

But it was the Christians that built the company. Yeah, that made him the money. And so my husband just had this righteous ignatiation come above him and he's like if you allow me to be the third company to rise up out of this place meaning the river tampa um i promise i'll bring it back to you and part of what what he said to the lord was before he finished his sentence you know to be a three billion dollar company because he hesitated saying three billion yes that's a big number it's a huge number a lot more zeros way more um And before he finishes

the word you and I promise I bring it back to you. The Lord says what you've asked me, I've offered it to many, but they wouldn't do it. So because you, you know, you asked, you can have it go. And that's what we've been doing, which has been going. And then when my husband started the solar company, you know, he, his friend called him in. He's like, I got this thing. I don't know how to do it, but I think you're the one that's going to build it. And, and he's like, I don't even know what solar is, you know? And so they make a deal, like pay me for six weeks while I figure this out. And he couldn't figure it out. And part of his testimony, he says, he saw me changing my son's diaper. He's like, I didn't want to go inside because I still couldn't figure out how to sell this product. Cause I didn't even know what solar was, you know?

Yeah. He's an amazing salesman. He's, he's really great at building teams, but he couldn't figure out how to sell this product because I didn't even know what solar was. He's an amazing salesman. He's really great at building teams, but he couldn't get the system and process together yet. And he told the Holy Spirit, he's like, God, I promise if you teach me how to do this, I won't go to anybody but you first. I won't ask anyone else. And the Holy Spirit said, fine, let me move.

Let the Holy Spirit move and work on their hearts. Work on the people's hearts and let the Holy Spirit move. And those were the two conditions the Holy Spirit told my husband. And then that was it. My husband never recruited. People were just starting to come our way. And then we just would work on their hearts. We started talking about the things that mattered, you know, going back to Matthew 633, you know, and that righteousness part.

And we put their attention, you know, stop being a man and woman of opportunity. Stop chasing. Stop selling yourself to the highest bidder, you know. Come, put your hand to the plow, be faithful, you know, like you know with building a church. Oh, yeah. And so it's the same principles. And so as this just continued to move forward, we started working on people's hearts, you know, and that kind of led into, you know, the ordination because, you know, Pastor Alex in Orlando and then, of course, Pastor Rodney who did ordain us, you know, he's like, they can see that we're pastoring these people. You know, we've had deliverances in our sales meetings, you know, a business because of business um we say this all the time i i've even said this

to tracy but a business is like running it's the same thing there's no difference between a business and a church because it's a whole lot of human contact and minutiae yeah i mean at times uh it's just it's just, it's a lot. It's a lot of human interaction. And then having to try and let the Holy Spirit direct you with each and every situation. If you're a good business owner, then you're letting the Holy Spirit do it. It's like with Tracy, her and her husband, with his business. And then Tracy has her business, but they're dealing with employees,

and you're trying to get the employees to handle it in a Christlike way. Some of them are not believers, and then you're having to deal with the customers and trying to win them as well. Everybody has an opportunity on each side to be exposed to the gospel. And church is no different. I mean, your staff is saved. At least you hope they are. But your staff is saved.

But there's still like you're still having to deal with a lot of stuff. Hopefully less with staff. Like not like you guys get to pick who you hire. Now come up through the ranks to get to the closest. So you can have some employees that are a lower level that you really don't deal with. And that's much easier. But as they get closer to you, then you really want to make sure that they're fully connected. And have a strong relationship with the Lord because it all trickles down from there.

And that's what my husband does on Tuesdays. Like we were talking about how the Tuesdays are going to be the business Sundays. You know, that's really where we could continue to plug the message, teach the principles, teach character and, uh, and, and showing how to practically apply, you know, uh, the word because they say that business is the anointing practically applied so how do I do this and so I think you know Jonathan Shuttlesworth is really great at making the the word so today and applicable and like palatable and I feel like in business that's that's even what my husband does is really showing how you could have these character points in the company with using the the word of God.

And it's not just the Bible says this, the Bible says this. You're just hearing principles. And you're like, oh, that's the word. That's the Bible says. And I think that a lot of people sell out and they don't have, you have the capabilities of being a business owner. It's just you don't have the self-esteem or the courage to step out. And so I say to that, don't doubt who you are.

Be bold and don't work for somebody else. If you pay your tithes and if your business pays tithes off of, I think that's a big key though. A lot of times business owners pay only tithe off of the income that they get. When really they should be paying tithe off of with the business. A hundred percent. They actually should be that's not that's right that's not a suggestion that is for sure and if you want to see it's just like the church when we started which we always gave and we gave a lot but i wouldn't i don't know if i would say that we ever tithe the church ever tithe as much as it got in. We gave a lot, but everything changed when we made a decision and we said, we will tithe. And then offering on top of that, we will tithe off of

everything that the church brings in, which no one ever taught us that principle. Somebody had suggested it to us, but nobody taught us the principle that a church should tithe off of what it brings in. I know that a lot of denominations require that, but that's because it's a business decision, not because it's actually a principle of the kingdom. Totally different. Totally different. So I think financially, we skyrocketed when we made that decision. So can you imagine if a business made that decision? If you're not if a business? Yeah, that's covenant made that decision. If you if you're not paying your tithe and you're a business owner, you're

crazy. If you are a business owner and you are not making if your home and your business are not using Christian biblical principles and you're floundering, there's a reason for that. Right. It's you know, it's because once you start instilling and being strong in the Word of God, watch out. Because then, would you say that once you guys, because you said you guys were late on your mortgage, your home life was kind of like chaotic. Right.

But then he made this commitment, and then would you say that over a short period of time, things began to change? It was within about six months that's a that's a very short period but when you're in the middle of it you're like okay i thought this was going to be a magic wand that things were going to change all of a sudden and actually and that's whenever you have this realization like we're hungry we're seeking the lord we're quoting scripture why isn't why aren't we seeing this manifestation that's when i was, maybe the Lord's making us just. Yeah.

Maybe we're not just yet for the wealth to come our way. Yeah. And so that takes time. It does. Because everything's a seed. So if you've been sowing garbage all this time, he's got to rip that stuff out and then sow new seed into us. We have to sow new seed.

And then it starts to flourish and incubate. The weeds come out. That's right. Because it's the soil that's multiplied not the seed it's only one seed the soil is the multiplier and we are the soil it's just like when the uh when the disciples uh went out with the food from the little boy right it was disciples that were multiplied in the disciples hands, not from the plate that they were holding or from Jesus himself. It was they multiplied it as they handed it out,

and a lot of people don't realize that. We are that, though. It's the same thing. So because I know, like, I have friends who just, like, stepped out. I have a couple friends who just stepped out into business on their own. They've been under somebody. And that's a kind of a scary thing yeah but organization is huge yep you do the you do the human carnal things

and then you add in the biblical principle and watch out because it will like yeah we kind of started backwards because for us we were faithfully serving at a church for like seven years we were on the worship team and uh and no it was just us it was just the me my four no more kind of expression you know nobody was doing anything we're sitting around thinking one day we're gonna win the lottery or what are we gonna do you know rather than standing on kingdom principles oh my gosh and um and nobody was growing and developing and then whenever you know i got hungry which was part of part testimony, you know, for the change, you know, through, through us shifting and going back to the river Tampa, um, you know,

in that time period, you know, the Lord was working in our hearts first, and then we were applying those principles. And then when, uh, you know, during part of our assignment, us moving up to Orlando was because of how pastor Alex's heart is with his message for his church that we we needed to continue to grow because it was almost like his message was putting biblical definition to the work that the really understand the submission to authority and then and then of course we're already submitted to submitted to pastor rodney and and through that time frame you know the lord brings he always promotes your relationships first before he promotes you and so that's what was happening we were getting promoted by the relationships and then how do you handle what again a seed what do i do with what's been given to me do i get familiar or do i honor the pastors that are in front of me?

I'm here to be taught something. I'm not here to bring something. There's something to be said about being an armor bearer. People have lost. People have, like, you should not, if you are the one that has an armor bearer, you should not be like, I'm worthy. You deserve, you're lucky. Come brush my hair. Yeah, come brush my hair. That's an inside joke. But there's something to be said. I think anybody

that's been in ministry, I've had to be an armor bearer. Yeah. Like I've had to do that role. And I think it's super important to do it so that when God, if God ever puts you in a place, then you don't think more of yourself than you should. I love that season, especially when I was on the road. I always thought I was called to the ministry of help because everyone's like, oh, you're called to the full-time ministry. I'm like, are you called to the five-fold? Are you a pastor? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just happy to be here. I'm just happy to lift up a vision. And I used to think there's something wrong with me because I'm not ambitious. But really it was just because this is knowing my assignment.

And so a lot of times, especially in the kingdom business term, people think, oh, I need to go out on my own. No. Plug in. Go use your gifts and talents and build with people. And then wait and see. Or if not, stay faithful where you're at. Because maybe you're supposed to be the best number two.

You're never supposed to be number one. Yeah, there's something beautiful about number two. There really is. I mean, we do have like a Heather. And like a Magalas is a number two, right? But I consider myself to be a number two in my marriage. As a wife, of course. Yeah, I love that role. Yes. I think it's beautiful a number two in my marriage. As a wife, of course. Yeah. I love that role.

Yes. I think it's beautiful. And it's super special. And I don't need to be number one. I really don't. I don't care about that. We actually suck as number one. I agree.

Because we're not supposed to be. I say this a lot. Because our job as wives is to lift up our husband's hands. No matter what. Whether you work a job. Whether you're home with the kids. Whether you're in ministry. No matter what. You are the helpmate. Your job is to lift up your husband's hands, no matter what, whether you work a job, whether you're home with the kids, whether you're in ministry, no matter what you are the help me, your job is to lift up your husband's hands. So the Lord had to check me on this because I had all these Bible accolades and

waiting for my platform. And I'm like, why am I stuck at home with these kids? And the Lord's like, you know, and my husband started rising up. My husband started speaking at events. My husband started preaching. I'm like, this guy didn't even finish Bible school or whatever the case was, you know, but you know, uh, with, with that, the Lord just supernaturally downloaded everything and accelerated my husband where he cares about all that stuff. That doesn't even matter. But the fact that, uh, the fact that he was moving forward and I was at, I was the hot mess at home. The Lord's like trying to show me something. And he's like, you are never going to be number one, but you will be the best number two. It's a beautiful thing.

Now, let's do it. Like you just said something that I think can segue right into a really great story. You're a hot mess at home. Yes. Can you tell us, can you share what a hot mess you were? Oh, man. I used to make excuses for everything. It was always someone else's fault.

I lived that life, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I lived that life. You know, whenever I called the Bible school, the Lord gave me, like, an open vision, and I thought I was supposed to be preaching on these platforms, and now I'm at home wiping butts. You know, nobody's paying attention to me,

and I used to really fall into comparison, looking at other people and be like, well, this person's doing this, and I'm the one just at home. My husband was always so gracious. He's like, there's going to be a time where I see you speaking into ladies, and I'm like, you don't know the stuff in my heart. I'm a jerk. I'm not nice, but the Lord was continuing to refresh me,

and Pastor Dallas's testimony really just built me in that time frame because how she compares herself in this familiar stuff, I would just stream thinking like she's saying exactly what my heart's saying. Like, don't pick somebody else. Like, it's not me. And the Lord's like, yeah, you know, because he's looking for the hungry. He's looking for the humble. He's looking for the ones that can be teachable, you know, and it's not about what you bring to the table. It's about what he can do inside of you.

When we are weak, he is strong. That's right. Knowing that your strength. Thank God I'm weak all the time. Knowing where your strength comes from is huge. I think I remember saying to the Lord so many times, like, when i found out that he called us into ministry i was like lord why us like there are so many better people out there that and he basically said because you're willing to say what no one else is willing to say and you're willing to go

or no one else is willing to go absolutely and if other people would have been more usable maybe we wouldn't have been picked but he also looked at our hearts. Like Tom and I, there's probably, we're honest about ourselves. Yeah. And I think that we're very broken. I think a lot of times if the Lord tells us something about ourselves, we're very broken about that and willing to listen to those things and say, yeah, I fall short there. Like what do I have to do to listen to those things and say yeah I fall short there like what do I have to do to get to that place now that's where like you were very cautious about what you ate

and what you're like OCD I was I um I was besides not being very nice which I've been there I was a horrible person I was very critical I used to like look down on people where they would eat and shop. And I was so prideful, you know, and just, you know, trying to lose baby weight, thinking I want to go be a vegan because I'm watching some lady. Because you used to do massage therapy, correct? I was, yeah, before. So you have great training in being. And the health and holistic and all that.

I know that world. And so after I had my daughter, I'm like, I'm going to try to lose this baby weight by going vegan because, you know, you just, you start jumping on Instagram and it's a bunch of doctrine of devils. I'm just joking. Yeah. And so that's what happened. I fell into this trap of comparison. Cause that was where I was with everybody. I was, everybody's doing better than me. Cause I'm a victim and I it's everybody else's fault that I'm in a mess. It's not my fault because I was not humble and I wouldn't admit, you know, any fault. And, uh,

and it was just all these hard checks, you know, because he resists the proud and he was definitely resisting me because I was repulsive with those things. Yeah. And so, you know, uh, so yeah, I was a vegan for, um, almost two years. What was that life like? It was horrible. It was horrible. I hope you have vegans listening. It was horrible. Stop.

But yeah, it was really more unpleasant because I was trying to control my husband and you should do this with me and come be miserable with me, you know, essentially. And, you know, it was just determining my own way of how we're going to eat, how the house was. My daughter, who had turned one, I would only feed her eggs and bone broth from this soup that my mother-in-law taught me how to make. Do you think it was fear-based? Totally.

Yeah. That's what I want you to hit on because it was fear. You were OCD. OCD, yeahCD and fear-based on these things. And she is speaking to some people right now. I purposely am making you tell this story because I, in my spirit, I know that this story is meant for not just one. There are many people that will maybe not watch live, but they are going to watch this later on.

And it's not maybe food for them. It's cleaning. It was all of it. It had to be in order. It had to be this certain way. It had to be this, you know, just this order. And there was no room for the Holy Spirit to move in my life because it was so regimented to my desire, my way. And a lot of that manifested in the food because I was not following my husband. I would always backbite him. I'd always talk over him. I'd always, he doesn't even know, you know, like have this conversation in your head. Yeah. Like what does he know? He's happy and filled with joy. He obviously doesn't know the barons and burdens of improper eating. There's chemtrails in the sky and our ground is depleted. And, you know, like she said she would see people eating and she goes,

I know that steak. That steak's from Walmart. I know you bought that steak. You know, don't invite me over. And so guess what would happen? Nobody would invite me over or they would just, you know, whatever. Oh, I love that. And so, you know, I was very unpleasant with some of these things.

And it wasn't fun to be around, you know, because I would just, I was fear-based. I'm like, that has GMOs in it. That does too. And I, you know, chemicals. You saw me at the gas station. I'm like, I'm just double-checking. It's still in me. She still drank it.

And so it's in here. And so, yeah, a lot of that was fear-based because I wasn't rooted in the word. I wasn't rooted in faith as a Christian. But you think, you thought you were, though. Totally. I'm on the worship team. Of course I'm a Christian. And this is the thing.

And this is, I was just talking to my daughter about course I'm a Christian. And this is the thing. I was just talking to my daughter about this because we were talking about some similar stuff last night. Deception. My husband just preached on this on Sunday. People deceive themselves. They are full of deception about who they really are. So you didn't think, this isn't fear-based. This is me just taking great care of my family.

I really care about them. So if I care, then I will pay attention to what they eat they need to listen to me you know like that was the attitude like and if they're not going to listen then obviously you know I'm the I'm the what's that social injustice you know Nazi kind of person I was a Karen you know in that kind of aspect you know and they don't understand that you know they're killing themselves rather than standing on the word and then you know along with the testimony, whenever pastors Jonathan and Adalis started their Facebook Lives, when they were talking like this, this was their Facebook Live. They had nothing behind them. They had nothing.

It was just, hey, guys, and he had his plugged in earpiece. Do you remember that, Tracy? I knew Tracy would remember it. I think it was like 2017. And it was their first Facebook Live of prayer and fasting that they did. And Pastor Adalis goes on about standing on the word, how divine health is the children's daily bread, how no weapon formed against you shall prosper.

And we've chosen not to vaccinate our kids. So whenever I was hearing this, I was correlating it to the decisions because I just had my second newborn and again we're having to tell the the pediatricians and doctors we're not vaccinating so just like fresh conversation going on that I'm hearing the same faith I'm using knowing that not vaccinating my children I should be applying this to the same thing about no weapon in the food that's in there is going to harm me. Right. Because just like if malaria is going to die in John Wesley's body, why can't the nonsense and GMOs and all that stuff die when it comes into my body? Same thing. Different chemicals, same thing.

Same thing. Exactly. And so after she preached this message, I basically reached out to her on Facebook because that's the only way you could communicate with them by then. I just typed up her message, do you mean to tell me? And then I just went on and re-preached her message. And I'm like, do you mean to tell me that all I have to do is activate my faith in the same format? And she just responded, yep.

I'm like, kids jump in the car. We're going to Taco Bell. She did. She goes, kids jump in the car. We're going to Taco Bell. And they did kids jump in the car we're going to Taco Bell and they did we did and that really set me free it was that it was it was that quick because you know a lot of times people think that getting free from something because where the spirit of the Lord is there's freedom they think it's this big deliverance but that freedom is due to

obedience you just have to obey like I remember I remember when my daughter was like three and a half, four years old and she's doing something that's worthy of a spanking. And I'm, I'm already, because I think she was already four and a half cause I'm listening to Jonathan and he's going on and you're just meditating on Deuteronomy 28 and all these blessings will follow on to you. And I get to my daughter's face and I'm like in her level about to give her a paw paw. I'm like, all you need to do is listen and obey. Cause if you diligently hearken to the voice of the lord your god and obey his commandments all of these things will be added into you and as soon as i told her that i just start streaming crying because it's that easy you just have to listen and obey the end and if you and a lot of times what we do

is we well what about this factor and and, you don't even know my circumstance. That's not in the if you listen and obey. All you have to do is listen and obey. That's right. It's it. And that's it. It's that simple. So you didn't have to have a deliverance.

No. You didn't have to get down on your knees. I didn't even repent. I didn't even repent. Taco Bell was my repentance. It's like when Jonathan said to Adalys when she was so anxious and just so anxiety ridden and she goes into him and he's playing the video games and she's talking about how she's afraid and all these reasons. And he looked up at her and he said, don't fear. And she's like, what are you talking about? And he goes, don't fear. She was so mad at him, but then she realized, yeah, don't fear. It's that simple.

Stop fearing. Yeah, it's that simple. It's that simple. We make things way more complicated. Faith is the same thing. Faith with healing. Same exact thing. It's when you just stop pressing and just realize it's already done.

And you rest in that it's already done. That's it. And then you see it. But people struggle because they struggle. They struggle in life because they struggle to get into the Word and apply it. They don't read the Word. Or they read it. And they don't know their promises, so they don't know how to stand on it.

And then they're struggling. And they're like, oh Lord, come set me free. He's like, I did. Read Matthew 6.33. Read Deuteronomy 28. I already did set you free. Which Deuteronomy 28,

if you don't know that, you're crazy because that is one of the best chapters in all of the book. Yeah. Of all of it. I mean, hands down. You need to have that up all over your house because that's your blessings. Yeah,

absolutely. So, um, but I will say that a lot of times that's goes back to the scriptures as to not just be a, a hearer of the word, but be a doer. And what happens is people are, people are great at listening.

And then they think because they've listened to it, that's me. But no, it's not you. Because it's not you if you are not applying it. Correct. Okay? It's to be a hearer and a doer. And in order to be a doer, you've got to apply what you're listening to. Instead of just being deceptive or deceiving yourself,

saying that just because you listen to it and you know the promise, that means because you know it, you're doing it. No, just because you know it doesn't mean you're activating it. And there is a difference. So, and sometimes God might level you. He might level you, knock you down to build you back up. Oh, totally. You have to be willing to be leveled because again it's the sowing of the

seed you gotta get all the weeds out for the seed if that soil is not rich and it can't be rich when there's a lot of weeds in there so the weeds have to yeah you gotta pull them up and that means sometimes being leveled and you can't despise the leveling. That's the problem though. A lot of people don't want to do the leveling because it's going to mean that might be some scary times. Yeah. You might like see some stuff that you don't really want to see or have to deal with some of the stuff that you really don't want to deal with. Been there, done that. It's not fun. I still do have to do with that sometimes daily. Of course. But it gets easier, I can promise you that, because your faith grows in the leveling process.

You're familiar to this, ooh, I feel this jerkiness coming on. Okay, Lord, come check me. Oh, yeah. Before, and then it's like the pride, like, no, it's not really there. I don't really have an issue with that person. Oh. And then you never deal with it. Oh, my gosh, this just reminds me of a story last

week tom and i i got i was leaving the house to go to his podcast and every time i walk past this fan or moved past this fan that he has he loves this fan in the garage to keep him i'm like i'm somehow i'm hitting the thing i pick it up it falls back over i hit it again i thought and i'm like finally like boom i'm like done with the fan I'll deal with it when I come back which I'm never like that I'm never like that he's like hardly ever sees me be like I don't know what I just got mad at the fan it must I must I don't know what my problem was but so we come back and he's picking we come back from the podcast he's picking it up and everything and so he says something like, you know, like, don't, you don't need to like, if you get mad, just don't even worry about it or whatever.

And I'm like, I then proceed to go, well, you know, when you, and then he's so like, I'm just telling you, the man is the sweetest man on the face of the earth. So I'm like, well, you've broken my stuff. So like when you've been mad, so it'll be all right kind of thing. And I didn't say it like that, but I kind of said it like that. And like two minutes later, as he's putting the fan back together, he says, you know, when, when, um, just because I've done things in the past, you shouldn't use those as an excuse for your bad behavior. And I'm like, well, now I'm even madder at you. No, I was like, you're a prideful person. I literally was like, Hope, you are so flipping prideful, because you're trying to justify your wrong by a wrong that he hasn't even done in like years.

Like, I haven't even seen that side of him in years. But I hearken back like an elephant. Of course. Like to the time, what, maybe 10 years ago? You hearken back, but then you realize you're a prideful person. Like get that pride out of you because that's ugly. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Sorry. Me and my head between my legs are going to walk into the house

because I am like a dog with its head, you know, tail between its legs. I'm an idiot. But it's so true because you have to like you have to level yourself we like be willing to just be totally taken down to go back up and and sometimes it's daily and you have to be okay with that because it makes you better absolutely it really does but so you made that decision just like that so that just proves to people you may say well you don't know what I'm going through or you don't know what my life is like. How many years did you live like that? Two years. Two years. With just the vegan. I was still prideful for a couple more years. No, Lord had to keep working on me. No, I'm talking about the vegan part. That was two years.

Two years of being fearful. Fearful. And people will say, no, it's a gradual process. No, you went to Taco Bell that day. Actually, the vegan part was two years, being fearful fearful and people will say no it's a gradual process no you went to Taco Bell that day actually the vegan part was two years but the fearful part was an additional two years because it was it started when my daughter turned one and it stopped when my the year my daughter was turning uh just turned four so it's three years in total yeah but you made a decision yeah it was an additional year that I was like okay I'm gonna go back to eating meat but it has to be organic it has to be grass go back to eating meat. But it has to be organic. It has to be grass cut. It has to be free range.

It has to be cage free. It has, you know, like all these things, you know, and it was just unpleasant. So just like how you're saying how graceful your husband is. Mine is too. He's very graceful. Yeah, he's so thankful. Man, I'm telling you, he is great at correction. He really is.

Like he is. I am not great at correcting and sometimes being corrected. But he's great at giving correction. I think I'm like, man, he's. I got to learn. It is. I got to learn. Because, man, it's a great skill to have.

But it just shows you how Christ-like you are when you perform like that. I usually ask my husband, can I be in the room so i can learn not because i want to watch the person you know squirm but i want to learn you know i want to learn how to love people in the correction because the lord you know the lord disciplines and chastens the one he loves so how do you take that correction i mean you can do it as a as a parent but i can't go around with your spoon swatting people yeah that's for cooking only. Oh, sorry. Yeah.

No, just kidding. Oh, no, it's got dual purposes, girl. 100%. It fits in my purse. But, you know, you can't just go around and just be like a tyrant to people, even if you are right. You know, there's a way you have to deal with people. Oh, yeah. And that's part of, again, God's business because he loves people.

And if you're not taking care of his business, then that's going to be like that bad steward. Oh yeah. So true. So 100% true. Now that leads us straight into, this is Logan's time right here. A lot of people are going to get, love this story, but Logan's my little pregnant girl so let's talk about you have your two children number one and number two we won't give names because i'm really picky about sorry i already did oh no oh that's right you did okay tell me not to no no no you can it's just i only like officers i don't know this stuff well no that's not why i just i just try and be private because i'm a private person although my husband's not i just try but see you've already done you've

already said their names. Okay, so you have your first two children, and it didn't go exactly the way you wanted it to go. Right. Now, partly it's because of you where you are faith-wise. Right. Okay, let's start there. So to fast-track the first two just to lead up to the third one,

I was very prideful with the way I wanted to deliver my first one. You know, I was going to have the birthing center experience, and I was very prideful with the way I wanted to deliver my first one. You know, I was going to have the birthing center experience and I was going to do it this way. And I wasn't in unity with my husband and he didn't say anything because we were newly married. We got pregnant basically the weekend of our first anniversary. She got pregnant on her honeymoon, Vanessa. Perfect. Okay. So yeah, welcome to parenthood. That's like, okay, happy anniversary. Welcome to being parents. That's kind of like that moment i had we found out actually on an easter sunday so it was kind of fun oh that is cool but so uh we didn't know any we didn't know how to communicate we didn't know how important it was to communicate with all this stuff and and i would just be really boastful with

my i'm gonna do this rather than coming to my husband coming to the lord and and i'm just demanding my own way and And, and for him, because he's, he's meek and, you know, sweet, he's like, okay, whatever you're going to do. But he never told me any of his concerns. So with that kind of thing, um, my, for whatever reason, the first time my body just never went into labor, I was actually 43 weeks pregnant with my oldest. And because it was a birthing center, they're like, well, you're kind of measuring small, so we can go, we can go another week, you know, and she was born six 15. So she was still fairly strong. She's fairly small. And so I won't find out the details until I get to heaven. We'll find out what was actually supposed to happen. But you know, to,

to make that, that part of the story short, um, I, uh, I end up end up uh drinking castor oil and I get rushed to the ER because I was demanding my way it had to be this way and then when it wasn't happening that way I looked to my husband like aren't you gonna do something like I'm I'm stuck in this mess and I could just and that's that's I didn't say any of that stuff but that's what our eyes were telling each other you know yeah and and I could see he's like I didn't sign up for any of this. I don't know. I don't know how to be here for you. You know, again, his eyes only said this. And that was such a wake up call to me because here we are now getting an emergency C-section because I demanded my own way and we weren't in this together, like how it's supposed to be. And so I learned so much with being prideful in, in, in that kind of experience that it really

humbled me. And then as four years went by you know have a newborn we're we're going you know time goes by and the doctors are telling me again oh it looks like your body's not going into labor it's a different different OB so he doesn't an OB because as a c-section you can't do the whole birthing center route you know legally and um they're like you know it looks like you probably are going to need another C-section. And I really wanted to have a natural birth. So I was just like, I don't like that report. So I told my husband, I'm like, you know, here we are a month before having my son or two, three weeks before having my son. And I'm like, honey, if you will believe with me that my body's going to do what it's supposed to do. Um, you know, otherwise I'm just going to have another

C-section. I don't want to be induced. I don't want to be forced because my body doesn't want to go into labor. Why would you be pumping Pitocin in me and making my body do something it doesn't want to do? And I had a great C-section. I recovered quickly. You know, the staples were out, and I was at Target the same day. So, I mean, I had a great, you know, recovery. You sound like Heather. I had great –

Heather will do C-sections all day for people. Perform them? Well, no, she'll actually have them for the person. Back to work. She's fine with that. And so, you know, I was fine with it because the Lord was so faithful, even in my pride and disobedience. He was still faithful through all of that.

And so here we are again with the same report. And I'm like, dang, four years went by and I'm hearing the same thing. And so that's when I was like desperate. And I'm like,'s pray we're in the car we just got home I remember and uh you know we start we he prays and we weren't totally like praying with each other we wouldn't do bible study it was our own salvation kind of a thing you do you or you be you you be you right and so we were being ourselves in the marriage and as I start praying in emergency tongues my three almost four-year-old starts freaking out because she never heard me pray in tongues and that was such Jonathan says you never know when you fell asleep but you know when you

woke up and that was my waking up moment like what happened to my walk what happened to my life you know where am I again we're serving on the worship team in our church. You know, we were, you know, four-ish years, five-ish years into serving at the church on the worship team. And I'm not even praying in tongues anymore. It's just crazy, isn't that? Yeah. That's a lot of people's walk with God, though. You know, I just got lazy. And I was about the church, about the business, but I wasn't in it, you know, and I

wasn't, you know, diligently hearkening to his voice. I wasn't seeking him. I was just living, you know, a nominal life. And so that was the wake up call for me. You know, I ended up having my son via C-section. And then about five weeks into it our church you know has this uh this conversation about how they want to go in the next direction with with where they're going and all I realize is that I'm like checked out my house is not in order I'm not in order I could care less about what's going on with my church right now you know and we were just volunteers we weren't on staff um and so you know after that I was just kind of like just stunned like I didn't I didn't know what to do with my life. Like, how did I get here? And, and then I prayed, I'm like, you know, Lord, you know, I don't know how I ended up here, but please help

me get out. And, um, and that was the next day that Jonathan starts his Facebook lives, you know, like we were, we were talking and just getting pumped with like six months, six months. It took about six months of just hearing faith on their daily broadcast and just confessing the word, speaking the word, going back to applying and believing the word. I'm telling my husband, I'm like, you've got to hear this guy. You've got to hear this guy preaching. And the last thing he wanted to hear was another preacher because there was just a little bit of a disappointment with where we were going for so many years and not going into a direction we thought.

So he was kind of like burned out with that. But Pastor Rodney ended up taking his entire staff to Israel that year on Father's Day. Yeah, I remember him telling the story. Go ahead. And so I told our pastors, we're not leading worship. You know, take us off that day. I'm like, honey, you got to hear this guy. He's coming on Father's Day.

You have to hear this guy. He's coming on Father's Day. You have to hear this guy. And on his end, he was not going to go. He said yes whenever I told him originally, like on a Monday or whatever. You know, like, this guy's coming to the river. We're going. So I already made the arrangements. And the whole week he kept thinking, you know, we're not going to go. I'm like, don't forget, Sunday we're going to the River Tampa.

We lived in Sarasota at that time. You know, we're going to the River Tampa. We're not going to go. I'm like, don't forget Sunday. We're going to the river Tampa. We're not, we lived in Sarasota at that time. You know, we're going to the river Tampa. We're not going to be here. And he'd say, okay, we're not going. Then that morning. And it's still to this day, angels were helping me. I got a baby, a newborn, a six month old and a, uh, a four year old in the car, myself perfectly ready. Didn't forget a thing in silence, sitting there waiting. And my husband's showering. He getting himself ready we're not gonna go he says this he says this i'm just thinking we're not gonna go once we get in the car i'm just gonna put my foot down and just pull over to somewhere else and that's it but we were perfectly in the car i knew if i was if i forgot something forget it because anything that was going to hiccup this you know was going to

just you know make it blow it off blow you know blow it up and so he turned you know we started driving our church is to the left hit you know the river tampa's to the right we're turning to the right i'm like okay great we just keep going in his mind he's like we're not going i'm just gonna pull out to some random seeker sensitive church whatever we're just gonna go it's father's day right this is his story but he just keeps driving and so you know going from sarasota to tampa it's like a 40, 45 minute hike. Oh, yeah, it is. And so we end up at the River Tampa right by that passing that gas station. Again, I think we're going to church because that's all I knew. But this is his head like realizing, oh, I'm here.

So he's like, Lord, if you have me here for a reason, then then come and touch me. You know, because it's just, you know, you sometimes just you still love the Lord, but but you're hurt and so he he was at a place of just that brokenness like you were saying and he's like just come touch me and so um and so we we end up sitting in the third row we were we were used to these 45 minute dry clean services because our church was changing gears with some things but this is now we're back into the three, four hours. Four hours. Yeah. Four hours. Easily. No, it's four hours, but it feels like you're at home. It's just like, what else am I going to do? It's so comfortable. It's not bad. And so I just remember I'm bouncing my six month old, you know, in heels, you know, in a dress, you're like, I know the Lord has

something for my husband. And I wasn't even desperate. I just, we were talking about that piece. It was, and it wasn't even that piece. I just, I just knew, like as if I knew the rest of this. It was like a movie. Like I knew what was coming up next. And it was Father's Day, but he was preaching about mothers. And he calls out two ladies and one guy. Jonathan. Jonathan was preaching about mothers on Father's Day.

And he called out two ladies and one guy. And that one guy was my husband. And, and right before that you know he's like lord you know if you have something for me just come and touch me and when he had his eyes closed he says when you come and you know when he said touch me he he felt jonathan touch his shoulder and say you come here calls him out all he said was be filled with the holy ghost and fire and then he hits the ground and uh and afterwards we're picking up our kids and we're in the back and i mean at that point jonathan didn't have you know staff with him people with

him yeah they were very small then not even a doll and and uh camila were there and and again it was father's day um he was just changing his shoes i think getting out of his dress shoes and putting something more comfortable on when we went to go pick up our kid and my husband just kind of gave him a wave like thank you and um and And, um, and I was like, what happened? And he's like, I don't know, but I know something's changed. And like this acceleration, just like day and night happened as if all the stuff that was put into him as a young, you know, young boy, when he was like, you know, faithfully, um, in his church and his praying mom and praying grandma and, you know, the activation of his relationship before just kicked in at that moment. And then all of a sudden it just accelerated him in the word hungry.

You know, it's, you know, it just was like a completely different guy. And so that's how our business started taking off. And so at that point, you know, I was, um, we, you know, we were, we were, we would make talks about having another kid and he's like, you know, anyways, even if we had another kid, you know, you're just going to have another C-section. It just kind of felt like this like sinking in my heart. Like I still would love to have a V-back, you know, a natural delivery. And at one point I had reached out to Adalis and I was like, what do you do when you want to believe for a natural birth, but your husband says to use your faith for a Ferrari. And, and that was because she was like, I'm taking questions, you know, so that was my question.

And so, you know, that that's where we were. And so I just kind of, you know, just stayed faithful, you know, with, with what our assignment was, instead of focusing on that. And so there were times where I was, I was, you know, praying and declaring and speaking over our business as we were growing and moving forward. And at one point I was like, God, how can I believe for our business to hit $3 billion if I can't even believe my body to do what it's supposed to do naturally? Amen. So true.

And so that was kind of like this heart check right before I got pregnant. And then, you know, fast forward, here we are. We get pregnant in 2020, you know, so like probably right at the time, man and so so that was kind of like this heart check right before i got pregnant and then uh and then you know fast forward here we are um we get pregnant in 2020 you know so like probably right right at the time we originally met you you know i came down it was about about the time i i got pregnant with kelly and i mean no name child no you can i just i just i just don't do but i mean i will now okay that's right and so, so during COVID, the husbands couldn't come to the visits. And so I like begged him like just for the first one, just to hear the heartbeat. Can he come?

So we go to the appointment. We hear the heartbeat. I just asked out of the blue. It was, again, one of those hot questions and subjects that we didn't talk about VBAC or just have another C-section because I already knew what he would have said so I just left it alone so that way I could keep my heart right and but I did ask I said what's your what's your v-back success right here and the guy's like you're 39 you've had two c-sections he's like you know like go fly a kite basically and and so I just kind of kept my face still.

I didn't say anything, but my heart like really sunk, you know, when he said that. And, um, and then we got into the car and my husband's like, you know what? We're going to believe God that your body's going to do what it's supposed to do. And that gave me the permission for the sky being the limit to my faith. Cause now I'm honor now I'm in submission now I have the permission of my husband to go and confess to the sky's the limit so I had timers on my phone five times a day I would confess the promises that are in the supernatural childbirth from the top of the baby's head down to the soles of her feet I never even did that with my other two kids and so I mean like but your faith was in your walk with God yeah and your faith is different and you are different and we're different we're at a different place yeah and we're in unity all

that matters all that matters which that's the one thing that my husband says I got in unity with the Lord and then I got in unity with my wife and once we were in unity I knew what what part was my part and what part was his part and so when it turned into being my part, I'm not going to be like, confess the word with me, honey. You know, like, no, like this is my job now. I have permission to go and believe, you know, for, for exactly what I wanted. And so that's what I did for that nine months. And, you know, we, there were several ladies in our company that were believing and I'm like, no, you can do it. Keep going. And two of those ladies were like ready to have a C-section, but stayed in faith and ended up having you know a natural birth like they wanted one of them was in faith but she wasn't in the right place and I'm like no you need to go get the c-section and of course it was like all

these events and she's like I'm so glad you helped me you know have a c-section which this girl has now just had her successful v-back yeah and because it was a different place in her walk right because i had failed those times that that turned into a testimony and a lesson for other ladies no you need to go or other by the word of the lord i'm like you know what actually go you can't do it it's not for you for whatever reason unforeseen you know and so so and this is me declaring this is for the sake of having what i'm desiring this is my heart's desire, you know, and so, so, and this is me declaring, this is for the sake of having what I'm desiring. This is my heart's desire.

So, you know, here we go. Um, the, the, I switched doctors, by the way, I got rid of that guy, uh, cause he wasn't going to stand with me and the doctors work for me. I don't work for them. So, you know, so bye-bye. People need to remember that new doctor. So I got, I actually ended up getting two other doctors, but the second one was insurance reasons. And so the third one, you know, he was he was like he's actually reminds me a lot like Tom.

He was a pastor, Tom. So you guys all say that stuff, you know, pastor Tom. He's like a Trump supporter and QAnon. He was asking me all these QAnon questions at that time, you know, and I'm like, I don't know, bro. I'm just he was a QAnon person. He was asking me, what do you think about this? And what do you, I'm like, you know, cause I think he was like happy to have a conservative patient. Hopefully he doesn't believe the QAnon stuff. I mean, go ahead. That veil has been far removed, hopefully for him. But so he was like a Baptist and, you know, obviously, you know, I was, I was telling him, I'm believing, you know, you know, and he, Oh, I'm a Baptist. I'm a Christian. Cool. We're Christians together. Kind of like thing.

So we never talked about my pregnancy the entire time. But now here we are two weeks before delivery and the same report. Hmm, doesn't look like you have a favorable uterus and, you know, nothing's moving. I think you should probably get a C-section. I'm like, you've been my friend this entire time. How dare you rebel? How dare you say this to me betrayal yeah and I I kind of had a heart check because again fear comes in yeah the fear

was what is my husband gonna say because he hasn't been able to come to any of these appointments with me because of the whole COVID thing and you're supposed to wear a mask but I always wore bright lips and smiled really big and so nobody nobody, nobody said, man, she looks so nice. Plus that, you know, the favor of the Lord. And so, um, and so, um, you know, I, I was like, what's my husband going to say now that they're saying they're talking this way. And that, that actually happened on a Tuesday and Tuesdays are our busiest day. So it was like after one o'clock in the morning, he finally calls for the day. I'm like, hey, I just want to let you know what the doctor said.

You know, he's talking about maybe getting a C-section. He's like, no, we're standing and believing on the Lord. And that was what I needed to know that I could still keep going. Because before I was so prideful and demanding with my first. And this time I'm like, okay, no, we're going to keep going. You know, because I was going to be heartbroken that if my husband was going to tell me. Not that I was like okay no we're gonna keep going you know because I was gonna be heartbroken that if my husband was gonna tell me not that I was like pouting like what are you gonna say it was just the word of the lord is like no we're gonna keep standing I'm like okay I have permission to keep going I'm in unity and um and I was already getting phone calls the next day

from uh hello um Christy we're here to schedule your C-section for Monday. I'm like, wrong number. I'm not having a C-section. And the one lady who had called me, she already knew how I was, because she had to ask me something about, you know, whatever, somewhere in my pregnancy. And she's like, oh, I remember you. I'm like, you know, use an opportunity to win souls. You're always just going to talk to somebody.

I remember you like oh it's you I know ma'am I I okay you don't have to have the c-section I'm just here to schedule the appointment for you I'm like okay well tell them I said wrong number and then hang up and so um so we just continue to stand on the word you know um I went to go see a midwife to just check me she's you know she was a friend of a friend of other ladies I knew. And she's like, yeah, it looks like your body's moving forward. The only thing I can muster up after before bursting into tears when the doctor said that to me was, since my husband's not here, I can't make a decision till I talk to him. So can we get rechecked on Friday? And then I'll

tell you what we're going to do. And that's all I could come up to say and so I'm pumping myself with the word I'm standing I'm declaring I know I have permission you know to to believe God and so Thursday night you know steps start moving forward I lose my plug you know I don't know how graphic you have to give them an answer on Friday I have to give my answer that's the key here guys plug and I've never done any of this stuff so I don't know how it is it's almost having like my. I lose my plug, and I've never done any of this stuff, so I don't know how it is. It's almost like I'm in my first labor because it never happened. And I'm like, okay, that was a plug, you know, whatever. So I come like guns a-blazing Friday morning, and he's like, okay, it looks like you're moving forward.

You're like a wand. You're getting softer, whatever those terminologies are. Yeah, effaced. And he's like, so what are you going to do? I'm like, look, you said if nothing's happening happening we're calling the c-section something's happening so we're gonna wait we will we'll wait until the following friday but we're not gonna do anything except maybe like a soft induction but we're not we're not doing anything he's like you don't want me strip your membrane or do anything i'm like no don't move us forward because that's my husband

said don't do anything we're waiting on the Lord. And again, before with Gabby, they did do that because they're like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, speed it up. Let's do this thing. You know, what else can I do? Oh, I did that, girl. Yeah, exactly. It's a myth. And so I just felt like, and I'm like, look.

And he's like, well, you know, I'm concerned because there's a 0.01% chance of you having a uterine rupture because you've had two C-section. And maybe God's telling me to tell you not to do it because this is going to happen. Maybe your job is to be a Christian first before a doctor so you can stand in faith with me. You are supposed to be the voice of the voiceless. And right now, I'm telling you, this is what I'm believing for. I'm inviting you to be a part of this miracle. Either you can be with me on this or I'll just show up to another ER when it's time. Either you can be a, be with, with me on this, or I'll just show up to another ER when it's time. No, no, no, ma'am. It's okay. And so that's where,

that's where this, this testimony was going. The guy was like, okay, I'm all for it. You know, because you're crazy, you know, I'm in faith. I'm standing, this is gonna happen. And so, uh, so then as the day goes by, Saturday comes, we actually have guests over, and my pastor, Pastor Lawrence, she, she texts me, you know, how are you feeling, and I'm like, a little crampy, but you know, I guess I'm fine, and she goes, have you been crampy all morning, I'm like, yeah, she goes, does it come and go, I'm like, I haven't paid attention, I'm like, actually, yes, and she goes, that's not cramps, you're, you're having contractions, i'm like actually yes and she goes that's not cramps you're you're having contractions i'm like oh my gosh this is happening and so i was like okay great by the by that evening um you know we were with people and uh and my water breaks and i'm like this is happening this

miracle is happening this is anything i've never experienced any of this stuff before and so i had a doula and she was from our church so you need a spirit-filled doula that way they can stay in agreement with you because when you don't know what you're doing, you need to have people with you. And so one reason why we had a doula with us our third time was because we didn't know what to expect. And so, um, I didn't know what my husband, how much he wanted to participate. And so I wanted to have a support because I didn't know what I need. Not that, not that my husband wasn't going to support, but maybe he didn't want to be in the room.

Yeah, you don't know what you don't know. Yeah, so I just wanted to honor, and my husband and I, again, we're in unity, and about having her on, and it was actually really healing because we got to talk about some things from the first birth that just allowed him to just kind of get that out finally because he's like, I don't want what happened this time to happen this time yeah and so uh so that was just just more just cleansing and and just you know being um fully filled with god and not filled with any kind of fear you know because you don't want to have any doubt nope you know just like when jesus kicked out the other people whenever that miracle

was happening so i yeah we don't want to get kicked out of the prayers and the flute flute players you gotta go right exactly and so um so as the evening is progressing i you know, we don't want to get kicked out of our own miracle. The criers and the flute players, you got to go. Right, exactly. And so, so as the evening is progressing, I, you know, I'm laboring. I'm so excited. I've never had any of this stuff happen. I'm bouncing on the ball. I'm doing all the things. And as, as the night, as the night goes on into the morning, I felt like, you know what?

My body's getting tired. I'm going to, maybe I should just get an epidural. I'm happy to be here, but I need to maybe rest my body. So I get an epidural. There's a reason why I'm saying that I get an epidural. And I and one of my confessions was I was going to laugh this baby out. So because obviously we come from the river and the joy of the Lord is our strength. So I'm I'm laughing this baby out.

So I would like ha ha ha in between, you know, the contractions just to help open up, you know, and, uh, and I meant it, you know, and, and part of when you were talking about Pastor Chris's book, I haven't read her book, but you know, while she was, before she was writing it, because we were pregnant at the same time, you know, she was sending stuff to me and she sent something to me that was really helpful at a time about just getting your mindset in the right place for the, the pushing and the, and the opening up and all that stuff. So it was really wonderful that, you know, at that time frame. So I'm really glad she ended up writing a book. Yeah. Which Logan loved. Yeah. And so I'm in this mentality where, you know, we're speaking the word, we're confessing

the word. But as soon as they gave me the epidural, you know, they're like, oh, the baby's heart rate's dropping, which is what they told me with my first first which is why the emergency c-section was happening and we already heard this song and dance so i wasn't going to be prideful and be like yeah we already know this story i waited for my husband to make the decision which before i was not about that and so this time he's like no we're gonna wait so we actually signed the paperwork declining the c-section because they're suggesting it but you think they're just trying to push the agenda just get this over with which they usually are it's already been overnight now let's just get the show on the road we're like no we're waiting for this miracle and um and my husband's like give us an hour i was i think it was like five centimeters

at that point and he's like if she's not a 10 in an hour you know then we'll we'll talk about the c-section so within that hour of laughing in between the contractions, I'm having to move side to side by side. They had some alternatives. Oh, your heart rate was a little low when you, you came high when you came in. Now it's lower. Let's bump up your heart rate to help bump up the baby's rate. I'm like, see, there's always a solution, you know, but they're always just quick for

the C-section. Yep. And so they did these things. And then as, as that hour went by, you know, they're like, okay, we're going to check you. they did these things and then as as that hour went by you know they're like okay we're gonna check you you're an eight we're like wow we're an eight but it's not a 10 that's what like but it's not a 10 and so you know we really think you need to you know decide for the c-section because i think at that point you're the baby's heart rate's supposed to be anywhere between 120 125 and she was down to like 65 and um and you know the way we describe it it was it was just almost like we were trying to pick what restaurant to go to like okay let's

get the c-section because we just felt like this was our stop and um and because we had everybody leave you know we had such peace it was like this peace that surpasses the understanding. It was like, this is as far as we can go. This is how far our faith could take us. And, um, and as they're wheeling us in to start with the OR, you know, I actually hear, I hear this. I hear what happened to Adalys is about to happen to you. And I'm like, thank you, Jesus. You're so faithful. Like, la la la. I'm not listening to this I'm not listening to this and I was like Lord you're so good because I spent that nine months you know confessing fighting standing on the word that this was not time for me to get all in the name of Jesus and powerful and so I I just I just refused to listen to that and I just stayed in faith and I kept my body really calm because as

soon as they moved me from the um the the regular birthing table into their operating table my body goes into shock like like full-on convulsing i cannot stop and i'm like this is my third go around i know how this works why is my body acting this way because i was in such peace that perfect peace like like like really like why are you not why are you not participating in this piece like body and soul i mean like soul and spirit are fine but what's up with you body and uh and of course there's that time frame where the husband has to go get scrubbed up so I'm by myself for a little bit you know and that's not very long you know everything seems like it's like hours but it's really fast yeah yeah and so he comes in and I and one thing I told them because having that

massage background is I love all the things medical and you know, all the other details. I love all the things medical. So in my birth plan, I was like, do not speak medical stuff around me. Cause I don't want to hear whether it's negative or positive. I don't want to get excited and then tighten up because I'm excited or I don't want to get fearful because I hear what you're saying. So, but now I'm in the operating room, all bets are off and they're running around like it's Home Alone, like that one scene. Again, third C-section. I've had an emergency C-section. I've had a planned C-section.

And now this one's like not like one I've had before. And so they're running around like crazy, and I can hear all these terminologies, and I'm like, okay. And I was just like, Lord, you're so faithful. I thank you. You're so good. And, you know, you're laid like this. They almost strap you because they have to start plugging stuff in.

And I was just in peace. And because I already had that epidural, they didn't have to give me the spinal tap, which is the big epidural where you're actually numb. So I was numb to what was happening, but I could feel something was happening. You know, I could feel my body moving because the other half of me was still yeah no you know in intact and so so they obviously you know cut me open I can feel my baby leave my body you know the actual and not like you know spiritually I can feel her leave my body and I just knew something wasn't right and I tell my husband like start praying and he's like

shabba-ba thank you Jesus I'm like no start praying. And he's like, shababa, thank you, Jesus. I'm like, no, start praying. We shall live and not die. And then I just closed my eyes and I just got really quiet and peaceful because I needed my body to be still. Because it was still shaking. I was still convulsing. I was still like puking. I couldn't move. You know, I was just, I was like, why is my body acting this way?

Yeah. You know, and I wasn't worried, but it was like, that's, that was what I realized because I was in such peace with everything else. And, of course, they're saying all the terms, whatever. Time goes by, and my husband does start praying in tongues fiercely. And time goes by, and I hear, let's get the dad over here because this is my version. I'm trying to blend the two sides of the story. And this nurse, filled with the devil, says, I hear you praying. Look what you've done.

Grabs my baby's arm. Boom. Flops. You waited too long. And she's dead. For 20 minutes, they were trying to resuscitate her. But because when we started dating, all he said was, you're such a beautiful baby. I bet you are a beautiful baby. And all he wanted was a little baby. Of course, I wanted Spanish babies. And then now this little baby is white skin, blonde hair, you know, you know, I mean,

the eye color at that moment, but, but she was there. And so that was the glimpse of hope my husband needed to know that this was his promise. Yeah. That is not going to be dead on a table. So he said, in the name of Jesus, you shall live and not die. Immediately, life comes back into my daughter. And the nurses were shocked. They didn't know what to do. And they immediately grab her. They say, you know, you did your job.

You know, because that that nurse said you know let's see if you're if your god's listening there are many gods but let's see if yours is listening and so now you know of course our lord comes and delivers up delivers my baby and uh and he takes her as she the nurse takes her and says you know like you know she may be alive but she's probably going to be a vegetable this is like holding a baby underwater for like 20 minutes and uh and another just you know curse and uh and you know lazarus was dead four days why would absolutely why would the lord bring someone back from the dead as a vegetable and so we we refused to hear that report and so uh so they rush her off they actually even called a helicopter but they canceled it to, um, she went to a different hospital because of the better

NICU situation and all that kind of stuff. And, um, and for me, cause I heard that prayer and I, and because I use sarcasm to deal with stuff, I was like, it's a funny way to greet your baby into the world. And then I hear them speak in all the medical terms and I hear uterine rupture, hysterectomy. I'm like, Ooh, I guess, I guess I'm not doing too well. And so I was like, I was like, all right, buddy, keep calming down. Like, I'm like really trying to get my body to be still. And I lean over to the, I like turn my head to the nurse. I'm like, I'm really sorry. I'm trying to calm down, you know, cause I'm like shaking. How do you work when your body's shaking? And so they, I go general, it was a six-hour surgery the guy said that my my uterus exploded like like uh spaghetti strands and he says he didn't know what to do but

it was two doctors that were working on me because the one that was on duty and they called that guy you know and and uh he thought who is this and he said a day before I had thought, you know, Lord, I'm thinking about Delgado. He was a military doctor. He used to work on, uh, war vets, you know, like amputees and bombs, explosions and stuff. And he said, it was almost like a bomb went off in my uterus. And, um, and he, he thought about me the day before and he's like, Lord, I know, um, bad things happen to good, good people, but don't let anything happen to her. Just, you know, a highlight. And he tells my husband, you should be checking two people in at the morgue right now. And then he goes and draws a picture of everything that ended up happening. And just, he said, I

didn't know what to do, but it was like an unforeseen hand just started moving my hand. And yeah, he said, stitch me up. up he's like your wife's probably in recovery she'll probably be in recovery for you know a couple days at the ICU and when my husband comes into the room I'm like I bet you had a rough day I didn't even know what happened I I'm just preaching to the nurses I'm telling him how good the Lord is I'm telling my doula how she needs to put her house in order you know like you take care of your husband. I didn't know what just happened. And everyone's just streaming because I didn't know what just happened. Amen.

And I lost half my blood supply and I would have never known. I recovered just like I had a regular C-section. Nothing was different. Nothing, nothing. And, and it was just, the Lord was just so faithful. My daughter, they wanted to have my daughter stay in the, uh, the NICU for two weeks, but she only ended up staying six days and they didn't do anything for her. They just monitored her. They had, they did no assistance other than the natural things, you know, like feed the baby and check vitals, but they had tubes and everything all over her

just to make sure she could breathe. She can cool and heat herself. No seizures. You know, she was perfect. Like they didn't do anything to help her live. Like Jesus did it all. Yeah. And if you knew this baby, she's a fiery little pistol. Oh my gosh, my husband thinks she is the most adorable thing ever. Outside of Brindley. I just, you know, the thing is, is I tell Logan this all the time. People have, they love to tell the horror stories of childbirth.

And the thing is, is no one ever tells you that they've stood in faith. They made it to a certain place. It didn't go exactly as planned. In fact, it goes and it takes a rough turn to a certain extent. And then God still shows up and shows off. And he shows who he really is through the whole entire process. See, everybody always focuses on the one bat. Like, oh, you should have my childbirth with.

But listen, there's a beautiful story. If you stand in faith, if you stay in unity, and you command and claim what the word of God says. See, the thing is, is what you guys did is you spoke the word. You spoke things. And that's what we're to do. You didn't take it to Jesus. You spoke what was already planted in you for nine months prior to.

That's how you get the results. Yeah. And sometimes people quote the word in fear. You said I'm the head and not the tail. Why am I doing this? And it was like, no, this is my promise. And that again, even with my husband, when he saw, when he saw Kelly, he's like, this is my promise. I know that you're not going to, you know, deliver me a dead baby with blonde hair, white skin, you know, just like I've asked for. And so that the Lord even knows how to, but it's up to us. Here's the situation. Now, what are you going to do? And

it's up to us on if we're going to use our faith. You know, the Lord gives us an imagination and part of that imagination is for us to utilize it for the creative miracle work that he's going to do. Exactly. Cause it usually is held. And usually is held, and me and Norma talk about this stuff all the time, but the imagination is warned against in the scriptures, hands down. There's one scripture that the imagination is talked about where it's not a warning, but it's not a pro or a con. It's indifferent. But we're warned against our imagination because we war against it. And that's the key. You can also use it to imagine your healing, to imagine your business being successful. The things that you're believing for that God has birthed inside of you, you can use that same imagination to see things fulfilled.

And that's hope. That's what's hope. What is it? Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. The evidence of things not seen is the hope of what he has planted inside of you coming to pass. Absolutely. Yep. Or the promise that he has given you coming to pass.

That's the not seen. Calling those things that be not as though they were. It's the same thing. Those scriptures are twofold. go together absolutely and part of being a doer of the word is instead of just assuming the promises are yours you're gonna have to go after it like part of the reason with my my first daughter everything was like you know hitting into a dead end is because I just like yeah I'm saved I'm born again the end that's my promise of the Lord supposed to deliver me rather than going after it and then this time I went after it to the point that with the monitoring i mean i prayed from the top of her head to her lungs to her eyes to her i didn't do any of that stuff but because i'm going

to get my miracle this time i'm going to do it all and because i did it all they they didn't have to do anything to help her she was perfect she's literally fearfully and wonderfully made yep 100 and that that's part of going after your promise because it's yours to go after it's not it's not yours like like here's this cup you know there's there's my there's my drink but it's not gonna i'm not gonna drink it unless i go after it that's right action has to take be taken exactly yeah exactly you have to take action i love that story because story because what I do love about that story is faith through adversity. Faith through adversity and knowing that sometimes we believe for things and they don't come out.

And it shouldn't always be like this. It shouldn't be. What should have happened is exactly what she was believing for. But when it didn't happen exactly like you had believed for, you still didn't falter and fail and go, oh, that's it. No, you moved and you kept the action going. Do you know what I'm saying? There was no disappointment. There was no, oh, here I am, three C-sections in.

What happened to my miracle, God? And that's why I needed the peace and i had more peace because i was more in the spirit than in the flesh you deal with disappointment and fear if you're in the flesh but if you're in peace you don't have to deal with because you lean not on your own understanding i didn't have to why am i why am i getting into the c-section what happened why am i over here should i just keep going no i'm following peace yeah it was like a highway and this was our, this was our exit. When you start thinking like that, what happens is you start losing.

Victory is on the other side of that. But when you start going in that mindset, what happens is that's when you start to lose because you start questioning everything when you should just say, you know what, that's not what I was believing for, but I'm not, the end result has not changed for me yeah I will see the other side and there will be victory on it right that's where you get you you lose when you don't finish the race right and plus you know like yeah it would have been great to have that that natural delivery but I needed more faith to raise a baby back to life myself back to life yes and how you responded through the whole entire process there's a beautiful story behind it and it's not how people think it is that's one of the reasons i

love this story because it does not go the direction that people think it they always think oh she's not going to have a c-section she's actually going to give it naturally and everything's going to be happy and and like there's it's like the, a fairy tale story. Fairy tale stories are great, but how often do they actually go like that? It's when you face adversity, how do you get through it? That's real life. That's like when you own a business, you are not going to have everybody come on board with you and do everything you say and be exactly the greatest employees. You're going to face adversity.

What do you do with that adversity? You fight through it. You get to the other side, you're going to face adversity. What do you do with that adversity? You fight through it. You get to the other side. There's victory on the other side. That's real life. That's what the truth is. So I just think that, I just, I love that story. I mean, when I heard it the first time, I was like, that's real. That's what's real. And that's how you win. That's how you win. Because both of you would not be alive today if you did not do what you should have been doing nine months prior to that and changed your heart, had a better. And that's why I say to Logan, Logan saved over a year, gone to this church for two, made decisions, has seen God come through. And that's what I love about that for her, because

just a year, she can totally see, but she's applied the word. And most people are not doing what Logan's done. And she's only been saved for about a year and a half. She's gone to church for two, but she's not been saved for a year and a half. You can't even get people to do what she's done in a year and a half. And they don't see the results she's gotten. That's but she's not been safe for a year and a half you can't even get people to do what she's done in a year and a half yeah and that's why they don't see the results that's why she's going to continue to accelerate because she doesn't have any of that religion tainting exactly and watering down her faith yeah the righteous live by faith and that's like okay well if i'm i wasn't in faith and now i am okay this is the way i live now exactly like an equation this 100 it's a beautiful thing.

So what I do at the very end of every podcast, and I'll leave this up to you. If you don't want to, you don't have to. We actually do the sinner's prayer. Okay. So we invite anyone who's walked away from the Lord or anybody who wants to get their life right. We invite them. Listen, this story may not relate to you. You're a guy.

We have plenty of guys who watch the podcast. But you may know it because of your wife or a family member or a friend or whatever. And this speaks to you. But for women, this definitely speaks to us women to some degree and to some capacity, whether you've had a child or you've just had to, like, not been such a nice person. Always wanted it your way. Do you know what I'm saying? Because I grew up. I mean, not grew up. My personality. Always wanted it your way. Do you know what I'm saying? Because I grew up.

I mean, I grew up. My personality was it's my way. And if it's not my way, there will be punishment for it. Like I didn't care if you were 20 years older than me. You're going to be punished for not doing things my way, right? I was very critical, very angry. So this, like your story my story uh maybe you were on the other side of me being the one that punished you or you being critical

of them or whatever and this speaks to you because you understand what the heck what you doing girl um uh because you were on the other side of that. You said, I've talked to someone like you. It was rough, you know. Everybody walks in a different place, but to someone and to everyone, I think they can relate to you and to what you've walked through. And maybe you don't know the Lord.

And you need to because there's freedom in it. Like you're a whole different being. I'm a whole different being. The only one that can do that is God. Outside of Jesus Christ, our Lord and savior and the Holy spirit that walks and dwells in each and every single one of us that ask him to be Lord of our life. Ed is the only way you can radically be changed and literally be told you're

acting in pride. And you sit there and go, you know what? You are right told you're acting in pride. And you sit there and go, you know what? You are right. I am acting in pride. And then you start weeding it out. You know, only God can change somebody.

That's right. That's it. And each and every one of us need to be open to that. But if you're not saved and if you don't know him today, would you like to invite them? Like she's the master of soul winning. So speak to people. Okay. Um, yeah. If you've,'ve never asked jesus as your lord and savior or you might have been in my case serving in your church

but not hungry on fire for the lord you know well we can lead you through a prayer just to rededicate your heart and uh and bring you back on fire because it's really about having a relationship with jesus because if i was not where I was with my third delivery, I mean, we would definitely, I would probably go to heaven, but then see that there was nothing left of my life. Everything was wood, hay, and stubble. I didn't build anything on earth. And we as Christians are also here to build. We're here to build his kingdom. We're here to build people and make disciples. And if you're not doing any of those things because you're focused on your natural things or you're in the flesh and and more focused on on

your everyday concerns then it's time to get your heart right you know give it back to the Lord trust and start applying the word and become a doer again yes and just listen and obey because he will faithfully deliver you he'll set you free he'll'll put you on a solid ground. He'll bring you people in your life for you to be built up by, whether it's here locally with Pastor Tom and Pastor Hope or wherever you're listening. You've got to get plugged into a good church

so that way you can continue to hear faith the right way. And it's not just about a church routine. And so, yeah, we can lead you into a prayer. the right way and it's not just about a church routine and so um so yeah it you know we will we can lead you into a prayer just so i'll pray with i mean you pray and i'll pray with you okay all right father i just thank you so much for every listener here i thank you father for your fire to come upon uh their ears right now as they hear let it come and penetrate their hearts i pray father that if anybody is not saved if they've never asked Jesus as Lord and Savior, or they fall into the category of where they've fallen asleep in their spiritual walk, I pray, Father, a spiritual awakening to come upon them right now.

And if they want to rededicate their life and be full and afresh or give their hearts for the first time, I pray that they'll say this prayer out loud with me. I say, Dear Lord Jesus, come into my heart, forgive me of my sins, wash me and cleanse me, that set me free. Thank you, Jesus, you died for me. Fill me with the Holy Spirit. Give me a hunger for the things of God and a boldness to preach the gospel. I'm saved and born again because I have Jesus in my heart. Amen. Amen. Great prayer, girl.

Thank you so much for joining us. If you said that prayer, let us know. Email us somehow, even if it's in the comments, let us know so we can be praying and believing with you. And if you need a good church, we might be able to help you get connected with one. And be here on Friday, please, because we're back to the questions. And that is all. Have a great day. Bye. Real Talk.