The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E15 | 03-08-23

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Question #1In a marriage, can a (saved) husband who is secretly sinning interrupt blessings, healings, or miracles for his wife and/or children who live sin free?Question #2You have thoroughly explained speaking in tongues, but can you talk about a prophesy in tongues in a church service and if there should be interpretation.Question #3Is there a difference between a prayer language and speaking in tongues?Question #4My wife and I love what you are doing! You’re doing a dang good job! My question would be this. Would invitro-fertilization be considered going against Gods will?Question #5My husband and I got into a debate about dinosaurs. Can you help show in the Bible or from a Christian perspective where they come from?Question #6Please explain 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, where it says that women are to keep silent in the churches and in verse 35 it says it is a shame for women to speak in the church. How does this line up with all the women of God who are anointed and preach God’s Word?

Thank you for joining me at the Hope Hotline. I am excited to start today off. We have some really good questions, some very unusual questions. I know that I say this, not every podcast, but just for some people to know, because I've gotten repetitive questions from I think the same people,

because it's basically the same question. And I know you're wondering whether or not we got the answer. I think, Tracy, are you're wondering whether or not we got the answer I think Tracy are you still sending those responses saying we got the question okay so if you got a response saying that we received your question you don't need to send it in over and over and over again I am gonna answer it it just has to be kind of answered in the order that I receive it so there are some questions that people like this one

that I think are going to do potentially today or the next one because I try and answer a whole bunch of them because I don't know how many I'm going to get through in one podcast. There's one question that has been asked I don't know how many times. I know it's from two different people, but one person keeps asking it because they really want to know. And they're like, I don't know if they think the more you ask, the quicker I'll answer it. But it's not how it works. Just so you know. It's not how it works. I have to,

like some questions, I just have to answer them in the order I get them. So know that the odds are I'm going to answer your question. It just may take me a little bit of time to get to it. Okay. So patience. It's a fruit of the spirit. Everybody has the fruits of the spirit that dwell in them. Patience is one of them. So I need to, you need to activate that. If you're getting restless. I'm not the most patient individual on the face of the earth at all. So I totally get it. But whatever. All right.

First question. In a marriage, can a saved, and it was parenthesis, saved. So I don't know what the parenthesis really means that you believe that they're saved or they say that they're saved, but they don't live like it. Because based on what this looks like, it could be that, well, whatever. In a marriage, can a saved husband who is secretly sinning interrupt blessings, healings, or miracles for his wife and or children who live sin free? So I first will answer this question with,

if he is secretly sinning and it is a lifestyle of sin, he's not saved. It's not happening. If he struggles with secret sinning, that is totally different. You can still be saved and struggle with the sin, but not, and secretly do it, but not be like some, this is a husband. So if he is struggling with pornography and he's secretly, you know, most people are not that, most men that struggle, that are married,

that call themselves a Christian that's married, they're not usually watching porn with their wife, or both of them are sinning. Pornography is not something that a husband and wife can do together that are married. Pornography is sin. So, hold on, somebody keeps texting me, and it might be my daughter who's traveling. Nope, it's not, I'm not looking anymore. Can I do this for you guys, in case it's not. I'm not looking anymore.

Can I do this for you guys in case she texts me? Then you can respond. Thank you. Family's the only one that gets, well, I would say family's the only one that I'll stop this podcast for, but actually it's a little bit, that would be the Dexter family as well because they're like family I have to stop whatever I'm doing I don't have to stop I choose to stop but Heather just told me she will hunt me down I'm sure she'll hunt me down like a dog in the streets

so I better I better respond but um okay back to your question instead of me. I always go to me. Girls, I like me a lot, I think. I like me. Sorry, it's my podcast. Thank you, Tracy. Tracy says it's my podcast. So it's my party, and I'll cry if I want to.

It's my party, and I'll cry if I want to. Cry if I want to. Cry if I want to. You would cry too if it happened to you. You guys remember that song? Yeah. Anybody who is, well, probably if you're in your 20s, you're not going to remember that song at all. If you're in your 30s, you probably do.

But that's not because it was a part of your life it's a part of your grandparents or your parents life for me it's my part of my parents life it's a 50 song right maybe Tracy will play it for you guys so you'll know but whatever okay so secretly sinning could be like I'm going to just give you an example if this person is looking at pornography secretly looking at pornography but they may be like, I'm going to just give you an example. If this person is looking at pornography, secretly looking at pornography, but they may be like struggling with it. And so it's not something that they do all the time. It's just, they fall prey to it. They fall to it. If this person, if your husband is sinning and it's a lifestyle for them it says in the in the Bible that if you

live like this you'll not inherit the kingdom of heaven so lifestyle and struggling two different things if it's a lifestyle for them then they are not saved okay so and they need to get that right so in a marriage can a saved husband who is secretly sinning interrupt blessings healings or miracles for his wife and or children who live sin free I would say to a certain extent, yes. If this person is struggling with sin and they're the priest of the home and they're actively being the priest, there are certain extents that this could happen.

Not with healing, with blessings, not with miracles. There's financial issues and stuff like that that could affect because God is not going to honor that lifestyle. If it's a miracle for you and your children, no. If it's a healing for you and your children, no. God will honor your prayers for your children depending on their age. If they're teenagers then they need to stand in the gap for their faith for for healing um because god is that by now

corinthians talks about we as parents we can stand in faith for healing for our children but at a certain point the child has to start standing um in faith for their healing as well and take responsibility for that too. But again, like for blessings, depending on what the blessing is, yeah, their sinful lifestyle can, if they're not saved and you're giving, I'll give you an example. If you're're saved if he is saved and um you got he's a tither um and things like that there are certain promises with tithing that god's going to honor um if you're needing beyond some things then uh he might if you're if he's not saved and you're a tither um god's still going to bless you and he's still going to meet the needs. So there are circumstances to these things,

but it's limited because it's based on you and your children and how they live. But it's really, it's really, it's kind of difficult, I would say, especially if he's claiming Christianity and actually he's falling to sin. But he's not living a lifestyle of it because God's going to draw him back. But I would pray. I mean, I know lots of women whose husbands were not saved that lived in a situation like that they saw god move in

their family move in their own circumstances and then their husband uh because of the example that they lived their husband did become saved which is huge um and if if it's a thing where he's a christian and he's struggling with this sin, start praying and fasting for your spouse because you have opportunity to speak into his life and you can assist him in overcoming those things instead of getting angry and bitter and things like that. Be that helpmate. Be that support so that you can bring him along.

I mean, all of us, to a certain extent, in every marriage, falter and fail. I mean, when one is strong, the other one is weak. It's not just usually one is always, you know, hitting it out of the park. I will give you an example. There are times where Tom, not necessarily sinful for me or anything like that. I'm sure there has been. But where he's had to stand in the gap for me and I in the gap for him. And just pretty much be that voice for them.

But waiting for the door to open to be that voice so that we can minister to one another. And, you know, you want to make sure that when you minister to somebody, they have ears to hear and the heart to respond instead of just being an annoyance gnat that just keeps, like, constantly, you know, making sure that you get your voice heard when the heart's not open to

receive all you're doing is shutting that door harder and harder harder and making that person not want to receive anything from you every time they see you coming they're like wanting to go the opposite direction because they just don't want to hear the nagging, nagging, nagging when they're not ready to receive. So I would say fast, fast. Definitely get in there and do some spiritual warfare for your husband and see things turn around for your family. There's a strong potential and a strong chance of that coming to pass. If you just sit idly by and you don't spiritually go after it for your family,

then come what may, you know. But I would attack it in the spiritual realm. We wage war not in the flesh, but against spiritual principalities in the darkness. So that's what I would do. let's go to the next question it says I recently spoke with a friend who told me she gives her ties to a poor family I explained that ties are to go to God the church and offering to the poor citing Leviticus 27 30 and Proverbs 3 9 so anybody who's wanting to look those up it's Leviticus 2730 and Proverbs 3.9. So anybody who's wanting to look those up, it's Leviticus 2730 and Proverbs 3.9.

She said, was I right to tell her this? And I said, you are 100% correct. I say, you nailed it 100%. It is biblical what you said. Malachi 3.10 says, bring all the tithes into the storehouse that there may be food in my house and try me now that now and this says the Lord of hosts if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such a blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it okay so what is the storehouse the storehouse is the body of christ wherever you're being fed um a lot of times in these times that we're in right now a lot of people aren't going

to church but they're watching church online because all the churches around them that closed are still very uh covid minded or they don't preach the true word of god or they've been exposed now and so people are like i i don't want to go to that church anymore so what they've done is they found other churches that are like-minded to them they may be in another state and now they're giving to that that body um so So in churches that are preaching the word of God, they knew and you're being fed by them. You may not go there in person, but you're being fed by them.

You need to be giving 100%. People will say, well, I don't really go to a church anymore. I watch it online, but I don't have a church to give to because I don't want to attend anything. So they keep their tithes and offerings. You're hurting yourself. You're hurting yourself big time. Just because you don't attend in person

doesn't mean that you still shouldn't give. You absolutely should give. You're robbing yourself from what God has for you. And if you're being fed by somewhere, you need to be giving to that place so that they can continue on doing ministry. I mean, Tom always says like air conditions, not free lights, aren't free. Um, like we're making me having to make major repairs right now to this building. The insurance money was a small amount to what they've given us so far.

And so, like, we still have to make these repairs, and we don't know how long it's going to take for the insurance company to finally give us what is rightfully due us. So every church has a different need, but, like, if you do outreaches, which we go out into the community at different times but more importantly our the ministries that we have in the church we're constantly doing something we give uh we feed um people every single sunday after church so all of that stuff costs money um if you're being so if you if your friend goes to a, she should be giving to that church.

And you are right. Offering is what she can give to the poor. But on the storehouse, what does it say? The storehouse definition in the Bible, it's the treasury rooms of the sanctuary. The sanctuary is the church. It's super nice of her to want to give to a family that's in need but what she should really do is minister to them and show them and explain to them what tithing is themselves so she's not

robbing herself of her blessing and she's not robbing this family of their blessing. So by not following scripture, two families are being hurt. Or being, not maybe, well, I guess they could, yeah, they are being hurt by not knowing the truth. So two families are being affected. She should teach them what the scripture says and apply the scripture herself. And when she starts receiving the blessing, she can give more to them. And then when she's able to say to them, I gave my tithes to the church. God met and exceeded what I needed or his blessing far exceeded what you know like what the word says he'll there's your storehouses will be overflowing her overflowing will go to

them and then she can minister to them share that truth and then they themselves will say well I want some of that and maybe they're not saved but it that miracle or that truth may win them to the Lord and again I have said this before but I know people who are not saved that use this biblical principle that truth may win them to the Lord. And again, I have said this before, but I know people who are not saved that use this biblical principle, they actually give to our church and they have seen where their giving

has benefited their income. And although they don't live, they don't live, I shouldn't say I know at one time they weren't saved they did get saved and I don't know where they stand right now so I won't say that they're not saved but they learned this biblical principle not saved they started doing it saw miracle after miracle happen for them with their finances. And they're like, I'll never not give. You can't convince me not to give.

So, you know, it is a covenant. Like, it's a promise. And what he said in Malachi is a promise to people who give to the church. A covenant is a contract. God saying, I'm going to make this contractual agreement with you. We're both going to sign on the dotted line. You do your part. I do my part.

And so a covenant is like a contract. It is a binding document. God doesn't retract. He doesn't find loopholes. He doesn't work like that. So if he said it, he does it. If you can't trust what the word of God says, then you have nothing to stand on. Right? he does it if you can't trust what the word of God says and you have nothing to stand on right so I would say to you tell your friend that well you already

did tell your friend so there's no point in telling her again unless she asks you again but I would say definitely she needs to start giving to the church she needs to teach this principle to her friends give her offering to her friends if she wants to because the offering doesn't say it has to go to the church. And then hopefully everyone will learn the truth about what Malachi says. And then they'll have more than enough in their homes. And right now, nobody needs to be on the Biden economy. That's a very scary thought to be on Joe Biden's economy's economy you want to be in god's economy that's for

sure um so next question you have thoroughly explained speaking in tongues but can you talk about a prophecy in tongues in a church service and if there should be interpretation scripture is very clear about this first cor Corinthians 14 5 says, I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied. For he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets that the church may receive edification. So there's two different kinds of tongues. One is for the church and the body. And the other is your prayer language. When you speak in tongues, it's happened to me only one time that I spoke in tongues

and gave the word or the interpretation. And that is totally different. In fact, my friends after i did it they were like that didn't sound like your prayer language that your personal prayer language which at the time i really probably didn't even realize it but um so my prayer when i obviously i i guess when i pray in my prayer language that was different than my uh my tongue when I spoke in tongues for the body of Christ so um every time you speak in tongues and see like some people get confused because like my husband uh he's very loud when he speaks so he'll be speaking in in his prayer language and they'll confuse that with his tongue like even though the whole church

doesn't hear it a couple people around him could potentially hear him praying in tongues that's his prayer language there's no interpretation that needs to be done you will know you should know the difference when somebody's praying in tongues for the body everyone's going to hear it from the most part like everybody and then that interpretation will be the same if it's like a pastor a lot of times will be they'll pray in tongues over you know the microphone they'll give them the interpretation over the microphone but I've been in churches where it's not the church it's not pastor. And so the person that's maybe several rows back, their voice goes louder. And then if they don't have those, they'll be quiet after

they speak in tongues and wait for an interpretation for the tongue, or they themselves may have the interpretation that follows very quickly. If there's no interpretation that follows a tongue, then that person was wrong. Unless they have the interpretation. They should be able to give the interpretation with that tongue. The thing is the person that's speaking in tongues always has the interpretation they should always have it if they don't they shouldn't speak in tongues at all um i had um when i was in uh i think i was 18 years old just before i walked away from god i was in youth group and and there was somebody that spoke in tongues.

And then there was, and it says that three people normally have the interpretation. So I remember this guy speaking in tongues. He didn't interpret it. He sat quietly and waited for people to give him the interpretation. I actually had gotten the interpretation of the tongue. I knew what he was saying when he was saying it. I don't know how. Like, it was the wildest thing because while he's talking, I'm like,

I knew exactly what he was saying to the youth group. I said nothing. Another person had the interpretation. They said nothing. The youth pastor stood up. He gave the interpretation. They said nothing. The youth pastor stood up. He gave the interpretation. And everything he said was exactly what God had told me. The crazy thing was, is after he was done giving the interpretation,

he pointed to me and the other person. He said, both of you were given the interpretation and you said nothing. So that was a double whammy. That was like, whoa, holy mackinollies. I had never spoken in tongues. I had never spoken in tongues before. But to have the prophecy was crazy. So you can get prophecy and not have spoken in tongues.

I believe that everybody should be seeking tongues more than prophecy, even though when I say more than prophecy, I don't mean that you shouldn't want to prophesy. You should. You should want your prayer language, though. You should be seeking that prayer language. It'll radically change you. Now, if you get the gift of tongues for the body. Oh my gosh. Excuse me. Heather just nearly fell on her face in front of me. Holy mackinollies. I'm holding it together. I am barely holding it together right now. so if you so you should want your prayer language okay first and foremost if you get the gift of prophecy and the gift of tongues for the body

those are phenomenal and you should be seeking these gifts you shouldn't be just satisfied um with like i i've been blessed with the gift of prophecy and i god tells me things about people somewhat frequent i don't always go and tell them i only go when god tells me tom has got the gift of discernment and the gift of prophecy and um he can tell me things about people year maybe longer before it even happens or it's revealed it's the it's it's a it's a thing that's super important especially if you're in ministry um because um it's it's it helps you be prepared for maybe something that's to come. I can remember when COVID came. I remember the heaviness of COVID. He was just discussing this with, we had a meeting with a family on Sunday.

And he was discussing how the oppression, the demonic oppression and the heaviness that came with that. He still feels it uh i remember like just before covid like exploded i can remember him sitting on the edge of the bed and just being like something's not right something there's something he goes i don't know if it's spiritual i don't know if it's something going on in my body I don't know but he was like something's not right and it was just shortly after that um that COVID blew up the world shut down and he was dead on and we knew at that time and I I remember going I know there's nothing wrong with you and your body because we stand against all of that but I told him I said I think it's spiritual and it was like an anxiousness it was like a weird feeling that he's not really ever felt before

um so he maybe a couple times previously had he experienced something like this but he didn't even know at those times really what it was um so when this happened, he was like, I don't know what's going on. And that's when COVID came out. And he said, still to this day, he can feel that oppression and he just casts it off. You know, you function and you're like, that's the spiritual realm. I'm fighting in the heavenlies. I'm waging war. And he does. But if you're really in tune with the spiritual world um which most pastors should be because that's how one of the ways he knew covid wasn't real then you sense these things and you we as pastors and we as as uh christians we are to be like hitting those things hard we don't we don't fight against flesh and blood and so many people walk in this world and are so so tightly woven with the

the world world that we are not functioning in the spiritual world and that's really where it's real that's the real umness of things so less of the world and more of the spirit uh spirit world and if we did that we would win a lot more but because we are so tied to um how the world looks how it operates and we even think it operates for us in that way when we don't know we don't tap into you know what god has we're in this world, but we are not of it. And if you think of things like that, then you just know that that's not, that's not for me, if I just focus on what God has for me and I focus on what his word says and how I operate in those things, you'll see God turn things around for you very, very quickly. Instead of you trying to turn things around for you, you're trying to turn things around for yourself. and I focus on what his word says and how I operate in those things,

you'll see God turn things around for you very, very quickly instead of you trying to turn them around in the world's way of doing it. So that's, I got distracted. So here's something. Let me just say, in the book of Acts with tongues, and I've heard stories about this, people have given tongues and people that speak another language,

they understand that tongue, that even in the book of Acts on the day of Pentecost, that's exactly what happened. People who are from different places, they were like, hey, they don't speak my language, but that they're speaking my language right now. I understand what they're saying. Tongues can be like that. People who don't speak English, maybe from another country, and they will hear that tongue and it'll be that something they understand in their own language. So tongues very very important again i tell you seek prophecy speak

seek tongue seek all the gifts discernment things things that will help you operate and function as a christian so you know paul said he didn't come with wise and persuasive words but a demonstration of the spirit's power um when you can speak to somebody, like if God gives you a word for somebody and you go to that person and you say, hey, listen, this is what's going on in your life. You don't barely know them, or you do know them, but they know. There's no way that you know what you know about them. That's powerful. And that oftentimes can break down walls for them to have a closer walk with the Lord or for them I'll give you an example when I was going to marry Tom

I questioned a couple times did I hear the voice of the Lord it's a you know people shouldn't just, marriage is super important. So you shouldn't just walk into it and, and, and, um, just cause you fall in love. Like you need to know that, you know, that, you know, this person's the one for you. And I remember questioning it and I remember praying and I probably, I may have told the story before to you guys, but I remember sitting there going Lord is he the one am I you know like have I heard you and I remember this guy I didn't I knew who he was but I didn't ever talk to him and I was sitting there talking to the Lord about this stuff it was just a quiet time in prayer um in the service in the church service um I had never sat next to the man

um he leaned over to me and he said hey the Holy Spirit would have me tell you this and what he said he would have never known what he was conveying to me was what I was praying to the Holy Spirit about and he didn't even mention Tom it was actually an answer like to a question that I had asked the Lord but the way that this guy answered it he would never known I was asking about marriage nothing whatever and when he gave me the when he told me what the Holy Spirit told him from that moment on I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt I didn't have to waver. I didn't have to question it. I knew that I had heard from the Lord and there was nothing that I needed to question anymore.

It was, yes, he's the one. That man, many years later, I went to him and I said to him, I'm like, you have no idea. But like, I married Tom because you confirmed something to me. When the Holy Spirit gave you that word, you didn't know what I was praying, and what you said to me, you would have never known what it was, but that was my confirmation that Tom was the one. And he ended up actually coming to my wedding, and from that time I tried to cultivate a little relationship with the man.

He ended up telling me that that was the first and only time that God had ever given him a word for somebody. Before that, he never had. And we didn't know each other. So for him to lean over and give me that word was kind of like a scary thing for him. Because he was taking a chance that he was wrong. I'm so grateful that he did that. And I would say to you, how many times has God told you to tell somebody something? If you hear a noise, that's people walking on our roof right now. We're having some roof work done. I would say to you,

I would say to you, how many times has the Lord told you to tell somebody something and you didn't do it because you were more afraid of what you would look like if you were wrong versus just taking that leap of faith and doing it? It can be that important. Like, it was huge for me. So I would say to you, if you know the voice of the Lord and you believe that God is giving you the gift of prophecy, take a leap of faith.

Jump off that cliff. And when he tells you to tell somebody something or if he has a word for you for whatever somebody you know somebody you don't know just do it and it will bless your socks off when you see that your obedience not only bless the person you said it to but it blesses you because you're sitting you sit there and go I cannot believe I can't tell you how many times I've thought this Lord I can't believe you asked me to give that message to somebody you trusted me enough to know that I would do it but it's such an honor to be used you know so I will just say it'll change

your life it'll change the life of the person that you're speaking to and it is an honor it's a huge honor when God says I'm going to give you this message to give to somebody else and then you actually walk it out and do it so but tongues always comes with an interpretation there's tongues for the church, the body, and then there's personal prayer language. Always, always, always seek out everybody has the gift of tongues for their prayer language. Everybody does. Not everybody is given the gift of tongues for the body. So, but know this, if you're given the gift of tongues for the body, you need to have the interpretation. So before you give that, that tongue, make sure you know what God has given you

or what God is saying for the body of Christ before you open your mouth. And somebody might beat you to the punch and give the interpretation, and you won't have to give it, but make sure you do know it. Because otherwise, it's very, very confusing for the church body. And then if you were in our church and you were to do that and you don't have it, then my husband's probably going to be addressing it from the pulpit and saying that that was wrong, as a good pastor should, so that the sheep, the congregation are not confused.

Okay, next question. Is there a difference between a prayer language and speaking in tongues? I've already addressed this. They are both the same, but the prayer language and the tongues, one is for personal use and the other one's for the church body. So I'm hitting both two different questions at the same time. That second one came really, it's been a more recent question, but I thought I would combine the two together real quickly.

Next question. My life, my life, no. My wife and I love what you are doing. You're doing a dang good job job I thank you for that very very much I'm trying my best my question would be this would in vitro fertilization be considered going against God's will so I didn't know much about in vitro. I'm going to be honest with you. And I had to do research. I actually did my own research on this. But I also. Heather and Tracy.

Knew about it. So first I asked them. They explained it to me. Then I went and did my own research. To make sure that they actually knew. What they were talking about. Because most of the time they do. But every now and then they don't.

Wow is right. Now they almost always know what they're talking about. Otherwise they say, I don't know. But I'm a big person on, I just don't take things for face value. Especially if I'm going to be talking to you guys about certain things, I have to make sure that actually what I'm talking about, I know what I'm going to be talking to you guys about certain things I have to make

sure that actually what I'm talking about I know what I'm talking about and uh I don't look like I don't give the bad advice you can just close that door sweetie somebody's walking in come on over not to me to your mama um somebody just came in um so I didn't really know. So I had to do my own research. And the only thing that really concerns me, to be honest with you, with in vitro is, so this is my understanding. So they take eggs from a woman and they take the sperm from a man and then they fertilize the eggs, okay?

So if some of you were like me, you didn't really understand how it works, I'm gonna, girls, if for some reason I get this wrong, will you just say you got it wrong? Okay. Because from what, Heather said gladly. I'm not kidding you. Your children are the only ones that will tell you that.

Kid you not. Other people will be like, sure. Like Tracy, sure. No no problem if Norma was here she'd go yeah I'll definitely tell you if you're wrong and of course Heather is gladly okay whatever whatever what did you say oh yeah Tracy is Tracy is more kind, which doesn't really matter to me how it comes to me just as long as I get the truth.

I don't really care about tone. I've learned that with Heather. Heather and I have learned that we don't care about tone even when it comes from each of us because we're not always the nicest in how we say things to each other. We don't care. Other people that are standing around, they do care, but Heather to each other we don't care other people that are standing

around they do care but heather and i we don't care we're like what's the big deal i mean we've seen people's faces and we've literally had to say listen this is how we communicate we're not mad we're not bothered it's really okay but everybody else's eyes are as big as dollar signs. They're like, what's going on? We're going to throw some hands in a minute. No, we're not throwing hands. We're just talking to each other. Okay, so here's my thing. For the people that don't understand this, my nose is itchy.

I mean, if you touch your nose a lot, people think you're like, what is it, sniff cocaine? Is that what it is? People think you sniff cocaine I don't sniff cocaine I just my nose is itchy for some reason um so okay you have an egg you have a sperm the problem is is it's not usually just one egg and one sperm that they're going to fertilize. They're going to fertilize multiple. And then my understanding is, is not all of them make it. It's like, what did they say? 30% of them don't make it. 30 or 40% of them don't make it. So those that don't make it,

they're, they're taken away. But here, here here's the problem the ones that are fertilized they're not all inserted in to the uterus for it to be attached so they save some okay so you can have it done two ways where it's frozen or it's not frozen. Okay, so if it's, and most of the time it's done the frozen way. That's what I read. Is that true? Do you guys know that? Most of the time it's, I read that you can actually do it all where it's not frozen at all.

I thought like you did. I was shocked. I'm like, you can do that where they're alive same day yeah that's weird but here's the thing it's mostly done frozen so what they do is they take the ones they do make it and they don't take all of them they take only a portion of them because in case you want to do it again. So I am getting this right. Okay. So they can take some and save some.

If you get pregnant. Here's the problem. If you get pregnant, then, and some of them, or one of them adheres. Because, you know, it's like anything, not every time will it adhere, and that's how you get multiples. That's how, like, we had, like, Kate, John plus Kate equals eight or something like that.

Like, no, she had six, right? Six, first time she had twins, because she did in vitro. Then the next time she had six, right? And then octomom. Did she do it that way, octomom? She had to have. Okay, so this is how you get women. So what happens is this is also another issue,

because you have multiples, and then they're going to tell you to get rid of, if your health is in danger, then they'll say you're pregnant with maybe five, right? So you can abort three, keep two. Okay, abortion is wrong. Okay, so that's an issue all of itself. But say only, like most of the time that doesn't happen.

That's not really an issue. So say you have one adhere adhere the rest of them don't that's not that's just like a normal thing right but what do you do with the ones that are frozen that are fertilized like what happens to those because now you have a fertilized egg. That's a life. I mean, you can't discard that. So what do you do with that?

Like, what do you do with that, girls? You can store it forever. And they're passed down in your will. Or you donate them to someone else. They can't do an egg or uh see now this is the part that i didn't know okay so okay so and your knowledge is based on what researching yourselves and what a while ago okay so so here's your options because you can't discard it because that's a human life um because that's a big deal so so you have two options you keep it frozen

which i don't see anything wrong with that because how much does that cost? Is that a fortune? It's a good amount probably. Look that up for me really quick. So you can keep it frozen, but you pass it down with your will. So what happens if the person you will it to destroys it? That's a problem. But I guess if you didn't kill it then it's not a problem.

For you yeah it might be a problem for the person that does. Oh you can store it up to 10 years. Oh my word that's not very like that's not long at all that you can store it. So do you get to renew it at 10 years or they get destroyed? Okay, so there's a few long-term storage facilities in the United States. Oh my gosh. Okay, so Heather's saying that it's 30 $40,000. Is that for the 10 years or for lifetime? So it could be up to $30,000 to $40,000 for you to store. Wow, that's a lot of money. Can you take it and just put it in your own freezer? So that was the fifth option is take your embryo home.

Oh, yeah. Okay, free. You can take your embryos home and keep them frozen yourself. But if you're like us and there's a hurricane, that's a problem. Because meat goes bad. So if it doesn't, I mean, I don't know. I mean, that's, I don't know. I'll be honest with you.

That would be a tough one for me because that's the lifelong commitment to storing something like that. Or your other option is, which I don't think this is a bad option. I don't see anything biblically incorrect in this, but you could give it to somebody so they can use it, but then you got a little one of you

running around somewhere and then like. That's your baby. But a lot of people do surrogates for people and they can't, no, no, no, people have done surrogate, their egg and somebody else's sperm. Right, I know typically it's not not but when women can't have kids they still want you got sperm donor it's the same thing but she can't carry it if she can't carry it because there's some people that have had hysterectomies at a very young age that can't they still want to

have a child but they want it partly from their their spouse so they know that you know I'm saying see I don't see there anything wrong with that I don't I really like I just don't see anything wrong with if you want a child and you're not able to have that child but you want you and your spouse your husband he can have he has sperm and he can use that see i don't see anything wrong with that i i even considered being a surrogate uh for somebody one time when i was very young didn't bother me a bit i think it's a beautiful thing to do for a husband and a wife that can't do that for whatever reason they have um i don't see anything wrong with that at

all i've known people we've had people in our church like we had uh somebody when we were the old building she was doing it uh for a family she couldn't have that they couldn't have a child so but it was not her egg it was the wife's egg and the um the husband's sperm you know what because like some people have that blood disorder that kills the the sperm yeah so they can't carry it i think it's a beautiful thing when somebody does that for someone else um but i don't know i'm gonna be honest with you like it's a big huge commitment like it's a big huge commitment to uh do in vitro especially if you have some leftover because it is a life once it's a fur it's a fertilized egg that's a life um but i also know that wanting to have a child and not being able to have a child or you I mean the word you could apply your faith and the word is the word you you can you can

use biblical principles you can dig in dig deep and you can you can get that way too. So I would say it's risky. I don't know if I would be able to do it. I'll be honest with you. I don't know if I could do in vitro, make that commitment of lifelong storing a fertilized egg. But also like if you have multiples, like I think my body could handle triplets. You get me any more than that? That's a big deal because you're committing to that too. And life begins at conception, not heartbeat. Yeah, that's why I say it's a fertilized egg. Like it's a life now.

It's not a heartbeat. Like Heather just said, and remember, life is conceived at conception not at heartbeat it 100% is anybody tells you otherwise that's just not truth and you can try and make yourself believe whatever you want to believe but truth is truth and so to make it so that it's easier not you who asked this question, you in general. But it's a life. As soon as that egg is fertilized, it is a life, period.

So it's a big commitment if you do in vitro. I don't know if I could do it. So you have to discard. Okay, wait a minute. So you can discard. But if you discard them, they die. So that's like abortion. Or donate to science.

Oh yeah, that ain't happening. That's like you're killing the child too. way yeah that vitro like that's a huge commitment uh just because of life but if you're able to do it hey listen if you're able to financially afford to store them and you know they'll be safe i don't know if i would personally bring them home and make sure they're stored in my freezer i just know how stored in my freezer. I just know how many times my freezer goes out. Seriously. Heather's laughing, but I'm being dead serious.

Like our electric goes on and off like crazy. We have just a hint of a thunderstorm and our electric is out. I mean, the Dexters, the wind blows. The Dexters live right next to us. That's a whole story how that happened. But like, because they got married in our backyard when they were like, how old were you? 19? Yeah, secretly, they got married at 19. He was 20 or something like that. But they didn't even live in my neighborhood. They then, they decided to move back from Texas, and lo and behold, the house next door to me goes up for sale,

or it didn't even go up for sale, my neighbor told me, so then they ended up being my neighbors. You were 22? Oh my gosh, it didn't seem like you were 22. Oh my gosh. So, I don't know. It's a big, I mean, I wouldn't trust my freezer, so I would have to pay somebody to do it.

And then you gotta, that's an expense. But if you are able to afford it, do it. You know, if you can afford it and you feel confident that you'll be able to will it, and the person you will it to will it to will also be able to afford it and will not discard it, I don't know. It's tough not to be able to have a child. I don't know what life would be like if I wasn't able to have my kids.

I would never want to tell somebody not to have a child, but I also never want to encourage somebody to to have it a child but i also do we never want to encourage somebody to have a child that or encourage somebody to do something that they'll be accountable to god for because that's a big deal so um all right next question is my husband and i got into this is funny because tom just talked about this in church on Sunday. We got eight minutes. All right. My husband and I got into a debate about dinosaurs.

Uh-huh. Can you help show in the Bible or from a Christian perspective where they come from? This is so dang funny because, like, literally this was just, my husband was making fun of this. But it's not, but I actually think i know who wrote this question and this person's not like when he made fun of this question he was making fun of it because like flat earthers like they get dig deep into things that just don't matter at all like what does it matter flat earth it't matter. And lots of people get stuck on dinosaurs and stuff like that. But this isn't this person that asked this question. If I remember who asked this question, because every now and then I can figure out who actually wrote them.

Not always, but sometimes I do. So this actually isn't this person's personality and it's not what they're trying to accomplish. They're actually opposite of what Tom talks about, if it's who I think it is. But the Bible does not specifically say anything about dinosaurs. Now, there are some hints to it that might mean there were dinosaurs, but there's nothing. So in Psalms, Isaiah, and Jeremiah,

and in Job, there talks about, well, Job is different, and I'll tell you this, but in Psalms, Isaiah, and Jeremiah, there's this word called Tanayin, T-A-N-N-I-Y-N. So if I mispronounce that, don't tell me. I don't care.

I'm doing the best that I can because these words are like far out there. They're not my thing. And I'm not a phonetic person. And listen, even if you're a phonetic person, phonetics can be wrong. I taught my kids homeschooling, and I know I had to teach them to read. There's good guys and bad guys when you're teaching somebody. Sometimes words are not phonetically sound correctly. So in that case, that could have been a bad guy, which is what we called them. We called them bad guys because they didn't phonetically sound correctly. But a Tanyan, whatever, they're making noises over to me.

Like I said too much, which I did. That is translated in the Hebrew, that Hebrew word is translated as a sea monster or a serpent, but mostly dragon. In Job and Psalms, it speaks about the Hebrew word Leviathan. Leviathan refers to a large fierce sea creature. Okay. And then Job talks about the Hebrew word behemoth. Okay. So even though it's sea monster, serpent, or dragon,

these were not like the dragons, like what are those dragons called that are like in Africa? They're the big ones that walk. They're not the, they look like, they're big lizards. They're big, they're like something're big lizards they're big they're like something komodo dragons komodo dragons and i realized you know i've i watched one of my podcast thingies and i hit this thing and it's really loud so i'm super sorry in advance because i tap on this thing a lot um so it's bigger than a komodo dragon okay they're not like this is like it's bigger than a Komodo dragon. Okay. They're not like, this is like, it's considered a sea monster. Like big. Right.

So when these things are talked about, they're not like what we're used to. They're like big. Okay. The Leviathan is like, like what is that? Like the Loch Ness monster. Like, I'm not saying it like the Loch Ness Monster. I'm not saying it is a Loch Ness Monster. I'm saying it's considered to be like a large sea creature, like really, really big.

Behemoth is even bigger. It was a huge plant-eating animal that dwells by the water. So some people think, some people people think what was that big thingy like oh what was that Toronto not Tyrannosaurus Rex but what's the big one that has big Stegosaurus has the big long neck, big body, big long tail. And the reason they believe it's that, they're going to look it up for me, is the bones, what they said in Job was the bones are like tubes of bronze. Its limbs are like rods of iron. And its tail is likened to like a cedar tree.

So a cedar tree is huge. What is it called? A brachiosaurus. It was like Dino the dinosaur. Dino the dinosaur. Yes, Dino. It's Dino, right? Not Dino. Dino was like from Fred Flintstones, right? So I'm talking about the, if you watch the Fred Flintstones, I'm talking about Dino the dinosaur. That one, right? So it was a huge plant eating animal that dwells by the water. Okay. In Job, it says the bones are like tubes of bronze. Very strong. Its limbs are like rods of iron. And its tail is likened to a cedar tree. Now what in the world kind of animal would have a tail like a cedar tree? You make sure you go okay could

there have been dinosaurs? I mean seriously what do we know that walks this earth today? Now some people have tried to say it was like a hippopotamus it was like an elephant. The problem with those two descriptions is the tails on both of those are very small so that just doesn't count it eliminates it we have nothing today nothing today that remotely sounds or looks like those two animals so what is believed is that like with the flood when Noah with the flood that's how dinosaurs and things like that if they were biblically if they were in Bible Bible if they were in Bible times, if that's the case,

they believe that they, with the flood, they were destroyed in the flood. So, or something of that like. So, but no one knows at all. We don't have anything like that that walks this earth today. So, and I know things are always evolving and changing, but we didn't.

So, I don't know. I never believed in dinosaurs. I'll be honest with you. I never believed in them until I studied out Job. And then I thought, well, it is possible. I mean, it could have happened. But whatever the case may be, I don't. I don't know. And no one will ever know so i think we just have to uh where is a suro how do you say that a seropata is that seropata

is that is that the dinosaur oh the biblical dinosaur name is serapada oh okay oh okay so that's the thing look up serapada i can't remember the spelling they but it's s-a-u-r something it's s-a-u-s-a-U. R-O-P-O-D-A. Look that up, ladies and gentlemen. And see if you see it. But some people believe in them. Some people don't. Some people believe in ghosts. Some people don't.

Some people believe in aliens. Some people don't. At the end of the day, it all doesn't really matter. Because it's not in the Bible. I mean, Jesus said that when he got out of the boat, people thought he was a spirit. And some people say, well, that proves that ghosts are real. No, it doesn't really because he said he wasn't. So it doesn't mean that they are. I don't know. But I have five seconds or less. So what I want to do is if you

are not saved or you've walked away from the Lord, it is your time and opportunity to come to know him. And I hope and pray that if you do not know him or you've walked away, you will strongly consider this as an opportunity to do so. Or it would be a time that the Lord just pricks and prods your heart before when I walked away from God there were just like different times that the Lord put things right in front of me I'd be driving home from seeing my brother it was a long drive so I would put on the radio and I'd just be flipping it around and then all of a sudden a song that I knew from when I was serving the Lord would be on and I just start crying and that's just God just softening your heart the Holy Spirit just kind of trying to just show you that his presence is there

and he's just breaking down those walls and so, if you don't know him, that either this is a time where you're saying, maybe you say, I'm not ready. You're not promised tomorrow, so just know that. But you're sitting there going, I'm not ready, but it doesn't sound so bad right now to me. But I'm not going to do it right now. Well, just know that the next time this podcast is on, at the very end of it, I'm not going to do it right now well just know uh that the next time this podcast is on at the very end of it I'm going to give you another opportunity you can do it now or you can

do it in the the comfort of your home your car wherever and it is simple as saying Heavenly Father I come to you right now I ask you to forgive me of my sins I ask that Lord you would come into my life you would be my Lord and Savior and I will live a whole different life than what I've been living now I'll bring glory and honor to you I'll serve you all the days

of my life and when it is time for me to go I go to heaven it's that simple it's that easy if you said that prayer now is your time to do a hundred no it's a 90 degree turn 180 degree turn 180 degree turn because 90 is this geometry i never took it i had to teach it to my kids then I got a tutor because I stink but 180 degree turn it's time it's your chance go the opposite direction from where you were heading world Jesus head Jesus's way

you'll never regret that decision find Find a great church, a holiness-based church. If you don't know of a good one until you can find one, turn into Foundation Church. My husband is the pastor. He does one heck of a good job. And become discipled so that you can disciple others because that's what Jesus said we are to do. We're to win the lost and disciple believers. And that is our goal. So if you said that prayer, please let us know. We want to know when people get saved. We want to be praying for you. We want to be believing for great things for you. And until the next time, have a great day. I will see you and be blessed. In Jesus' mighty name.