The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E30 | 04-28-23

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E30 | 04-28-23

real talk real talk real talk real talk hey hey hey it's friday i'm just telling you guys, I just got here 20 minutes ago. I still have Aaron in the room. Poor Aaron. It's just me and Aaron again. My friends have left me. Although Sarah was willing to be in here for me. Sarah, isn't that sweet?

Sarah's like, hey, listen, I'll come and be there for you. I'm like, spare yourself. Spare yourself. There was an accident on the highway I mean I'm shaking because I didn't think I was gonna make it here in time and that's legit that ain't from a Red Bull that's fear that's what that's from have on the phone with Heather and Heather's like hey and I'm like I like, I'm scared. I'm not going to make it. And listen, my attire, you're getting what you get.

Today's Friday. Free Friday. You freaked me out a little too. I freaked Aaron out too. Aaron actually had to look and make sure that the date was the date. Yeah, I thought it was stupid. And listen, I don't know what to tell you. I don't want to hear anybody critique this is

wrong to i just saw my can up on the top yeah i know listen i know this show business out of sight out of mind i might have to drink some of that and just in case this i'm just telling you people Today's a hot mess Like no other It's one for the books people And I'm going live See if this was recorded That's why Heather's like See if you recorded You don't have these problems

And I concur But It's more fun this way Aaron thinks it's more fun Yeah yeah yeah I disagree right now After it's all over But listen listen, the bank might call me. And if the bank calls me, I have to take this.

I have no choice. Live, baby. Live. I have to take it. We're going to mute this mic. I'll tell dad jokes. Aaron's going to talk and tell jokes. I don't know what he's going to put on the screen,

but I'm just saying to you right now, if they call, I have to take it because it's for the roof. It's the money for the roof. The roofers want their money. This is real life. I know. And then it's also for emissions. So I have to do it. Okay. I'm looking at my, that's, I was debatable if I liked that chapstick. I'm looking at my, that's, it's debatable if I like that chapstick. I'm thinking it's okay. All right, let's go. Nothing's enough. Let's get on pace and task. You got that thing for me?

That radiance thing I'm looking at right there? God bless. Let's talk about it. Yep, there you go. I'm going to keep reminding everybody about Revival Today's Women's Conference because you never know who's going to turn never know who's going to tune in and they're like you know what my life's a piece of crap right now i need to get around some other ladies and men i don't care even if you identify as a man or a woman for a small period of time you're not coming it's going to be a great time you can watch it

you can stream it it's going to be live and they and listen Magalas and Adalas bring it it's going to be good so um Thursday night you got it up there for me Thursday Friday Saturday so Thursday right now I was told I do a morning, the morning session, which apparently that's Friday, but who knows. In my opinion, you always go in the progression of, like when I did ours, I'm looking at Aaron. When I did ours, I did Thursday night

because I did Magalas next, then Adalas, and then Pastor Danica, which it's Pastor Adalas too, whatever. So you always go on the progression of the lowest to the greatest, right? Which we'll stay at that too. When we do my lady's thing, it'll be the same way. You save the best for last. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So you start out with eh, and you work your way. Well, you're doing the Q&A, right? No, I'm in the Q&A now. Yeah, but you start out with eh, and you work your way. Well, you're doing the Q&A, right? No, I'm in the Q&A now. Yeah, but that's Saturday. Yeah, but I'm just saying, I should be first. I should be Thursday. Then Magalas.

Because Magalas, like. Saving the best for last. No, because Adalas is Saturday. Is it Saturday? No, Adalas is Friday night. And then Saturday morning, it's a brunch and a Q&A. Yeah. Yeah.

There you go. You made it. Well, I'm not all by myself in that. But you made it. I thought I was facilitating. People are going to ask me questions. I don't even know if they know what's happening. I don't know if they really want people to ask me questions.

We're going to find out. It could be messy. Could be messy. I don't know if they really want people to ask me questions. We're gonna find out. It could be messy. Could be messy. I don't know. Let's see. So did you see if my computer looks good? Yeah, you're good.

I do? You're good. I'm not kidding you people. I literally walked in and your countdown was on. So I didn't even know what this desk was gonna look like. I didn't even know what my hair looked like. I looked at it and I was like, woo, because I was a windblown. I looked like I went through a tunnel, a windblown tunnel.

Oh, my goodness. So if you're still hanging on and you're still watching through all of this, my feels, you got my feels going. How many people are? Let's see. He's going to check it out. Fridays are low.idays are low because 25 oh my gosh we got 25 people watching live that's amazing people and that's probably because and

there's a bug flying around me that's because i'm a hot mess so let's get going very interesting questions this today very very interesting questions and i Very, very interesting questions. And I hope the way that I answered this first one is non-offensive. I have a feeling it might be offensive, depending on the angle in which you are writing this. If you're writing this to defend your stand on keeping the day Sabbath as a Saturday, I might offend you. If you wrote this to defend your stand that it doesn't matter what day this we do the sabbath then you're gonna love me either way though my purpose is not to offend my purpose is to speak truth please explain the ten commandments keep

the sabbath day holy why do we worship on Sunday instead of Saturday the commandments say Sabbath okay so we're gonna look at what the Ten Commandments are I'm sure I am sure that I can feel Aaron itching over there to say something I'm good I'm good you have nothing to say oh I'm sure you have something to say you're gonna start I'm gonna he you have something to say. You start. He'll have something to say, though, on this one. Ten Commandments. So this was number four. Keeping the Sabbath holy is number four of the Ten Commandments. Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work, you nor your son, nor your daughter, Okay. the seventh day therefore the lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it okay so i grew up in a home like me and aaron were just talking about this before we became we we got live like i grew up in a strict pentecostal holiness home there was absolutely positively, I don't think my mom wore makeup. We definitely didn't cut our hair and we did not wear pants. We wore dresses. Okay. Yeah, that's how I grew up. I don't think I saw a pair of pants or wore a pair of pants until I was 10. So that's like Vanessa, actually. Probably. Because she had that kind of Pentecostal holiness background

yep yeah which hey listen I'm not saying that there's if you're running to holiness it's way better than running the associated related churches way I mean bravo yeah key i mean i think people need to run to holiness now do i agree with everything no i don't but but there's something to be said for being holy and here's the thing like for tom if we would have stayed that route he don't like a lot of makeup so that worked out would have worked out he's not a big makeup guy he likes more of the natural look me too which works great for me yeah yeah because i don't like wearing makeup although i am wearing a lot of it right now because lord knows if you saw me without this he's the only one that likes it like that he that men love long hair yep it's your crown of glory ladies um per the bible uh so he loves so so in some cases it works

out really well like the whole pentecostal holiness thing yeah the dress part though never wearing pants that's all i do pretty much is wear Now, I don't wear shorts. These legs are not to be seen in shorts. They're gross. But, I'm just saying. Let's look at this whole thing. When we look at the Ten Commandments, most people only stick to the part about keeping that day holy. You know, observing that day.

There's way more to it than that. Because it says you're not to do a daggum thing on that day holy, you know, observing that day. There's way more to it than that because it says you're not to do a dadgum thing on that day. And I grew up that seriously until, I don't know, until my dad discovered golf. That's when he changed his world. Weird. Yeah, my mom will confirm. It was golf or something.

It was something like that. But we did nothing on the Sabbath. We rested. My mom didn't grocery shop. She may have probably cooked a meal or something like that. But my dad was a stickler on nobody does anything. We got to play and stuff like that. But we weren't going shopping.

We weren't nothing. Now, did you do that on Saturday or Sunday? Sunday. Oh, okay. Because, and I'll get to that. Okay. Because it was Sunday. Okay. Interesting.

Yeah, interesting, huh? But we grew up in a Pentecostal church. Yeah. In a Pentecostal church, you don't go to church on a Saturday. No. Yeah. Pentecostal holiness even observed Sunday. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But, so the Ten Commandments were to the jewish people and the israelites we have to remember that that's who it was made to okay we also have to remember that um if we are going to stick into states into strict concordance of that so if you are observing if your stance is uh to me that i prove the point that actually saturday should be what is observed and that you strict you're strict to that that you actually uh believe that the sabbath is saturday and that's when you go to church,

I would also ask you then, are you doing anything else on Saturday? Do you observe it to the strict guidelines that the Ten Commandments say? Because if you're going to say that you apply one rule, you have to apply all the rule, right? Let your yes be yes and your no be no super important that we're not hypocritical in the things that we say are that we mandate and i'm not saying that this person that wrote this is mandating it because i'm saying that you could also be saying i want to prove a point i want to have some biblical knowledge on proving my point

to maybe a family member or a friend that is saying me going to church on Sunday I'm wrong right so you might be you might be playing devil's advocate right here and you're trying to prove your point that Sabbath isn't Saturday Sabbath is Sunday or whatever my point to that though if somebody observes the Sabbath as Saturday then you better make sure you're doing nothing. None of your kids are doing anything. Everybody that's in that home, because that was the rule, whoever is in the home, the confines of that home, they do nothing. Yeah. I mean, and are you doing it Friday night to Saturday night? Cause that would be sun down to sun up. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And to me,

I would wonder like, if you wanted to do this, like if you were somebody who what you were talking about might get offended by your answer, if you're somebody that wants to observe it like that, then can't you just do that on your own? You don't have to, like, have a church do it? Because then you can just go attend. Because you're not supposed to drive.

You're not supposed to do anything, technically. So wouldn't you just read the word, worship on a Saturday, and then go to church on Sunday? Why would that matter? Well, and plus you couldn't do anything with your animals. Yeah. Like there was, I mean. You couldn't cook.

You had to get it prepared before Friday night. Yeah, there was no cooking. There was nothing. No housework, nothing. You did nothing but observe that day observe god keep it holy and rest yeah that was it and a lot of people just stick to it being that they're gonna only do saturday service they don't go to the rest of the scriptures yeah that's my big pet peeve with people and and the Bible now Let's look at the New Testament what it says about the Sabbath because we don't abide in the Old Testament We do

But we have a better covenant So let's look at what the New Testament says Colossians 2 16 says so let no No one judge you in food or in drink or regarding or regarding a fast a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths. Boom. Drop the mic right there. So let no one judge you in food or in drink or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths. That pretty much says it all.

But it doesn't because I have more. Colossians 2.14 says, Having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us, and he has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. So, Colossians 2.16 says that no one's supposed to judge you on what you eat, you drink, a festival festival a new moon or so and the festivals were like the ones that they um like passover and things like that those those festivals um and they

celebrate many because when i worked for an israeli based company they were off more than they worked truth yeah they had so many festivals that they celebrated. Rightfully so. Listen, if you're observing and you're a true person that observes the Jewish law, and that's your code of ethics or whatever, then you need to be doing that. That's your holiday. You need to be doing it to its fullest. But they had more vacation days than they knew what to do with, based on festivals and things like that but in 214 so 216 says no one should judge you but 214 says having wiped out

the handwriting of requirements that was against us meaning the law the 10 commandments which was contrary to us and he and this actually and the reason you don't have scriptures right now is because of me i'm the problem i'm the reason why this is the problem i'm going live and if you hear noise that's the guys on the roof so um or the guy pulling the insulation out of the ceiling whatever um it when it says and he has taken it out of the way having nailed it to the cross he is capitalized as a capitalized h meaning jesus and jesus has taken it out of the way having nailed it through the cross so the sabbath the new moons the festivals when he died on the cross he purchased everything for us we live under a new covenant. Old things have passed away. All things becoming new.

And we can abide in the new, which is two verses below that saying that no one can judge us on the Sabbath that we celebrate. Romans 14, 5 through 6. And I'm only going to give you a portion of 6 because the other part, it doesn't really apply. It goes off on another direction. Not that it disproves what I'm saying. It's just a waste of time reading it to you because you'd be like, I didn't need to hear that part. Romans 14, 5 through 6a says, One person esteems one day above another.

Another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day observes it to the Lord, and he who does not observe the day to the Lord, he does not observe it. Another mic drop. Yeah, and that's what I mean. It's like if you felt convicted to do it, first of all, know that that's not like it was with the law where it was required

because Jesus already did away with that as a requirement. But if you felt like you needed to do it, then do it. Just do it on your own. That's fine. Yeah. It's not a big deal. Yeah. Have your day be whatever day you want. For crying out loud, have a Tuesday. Having a day to where you don't do anything actually kind of sounds nice. I would kill for a day that I did nothing. No, you don't do anything actually kind of sounds nice i would kill for a day and i did nothing no you wouldn't you're a workaholic i'm a workaholic yes uh yes i am but i do love sleep sleep is nice oh my gosh i'm not like tom tom is like four hours i can't do that four or five hours a day and he's completely fine. He didn't go to bed until like four this morning. I can do chunks of that, but then I have to catch up. Excuse me.

Yeah, no, he went to bed at four this morning. I don't even know what time he got up, but it's like, I'm like, how do you function like that? I listen, I'm mean with sleep. I'm mean with sleep. Can you imagine? I would be a badger. I would be like

without it. It wouldn't be pretty at all. So everybody is very grateful when I get my 8 to 10. There you go. Yeah. Galatians 4, 9 through 10 says,

But now after you have known God or rather are known by God how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements to which you desire again to be in bondage so it's saying basically saying you were set free through the blood of Jesus Christ but yet you want to go back to the things that hold you in bondage and make you a slave you've been set free it goes on to say you observe days and months and seasons and years it's basically saying you don't have to do that anymore be free uh observe the day for me it's do you set aside time that you do not forsake the assembling of yourself together yeah that's that's

biblical you have to do that and that doesn't mean you go to church that means you can be in a body of it should be in order it should be orderly but that could mean that if like right now with covid people are like they don't have a church to go to But what you can do is get a group of like-minded believers, have a strong home church or Bible study where you're fellowshipping together and keeping yourself accountable. Super important. You got something to say.

Yeah, well, I was going to say, or you can tune into Black Robe TV Sundays at 10. There's people that come together as a group. I'm not saying do it by yourself. But the thing is, is they're talking while they should be listening. I oppose that. Yeah. What I don't like, and some of you may be on here watching,

it's one thing to talk during Tom's podcast with one another because it's political. And you guys, you're sometimes needing that time of being together and a cohesive unit but here's the thing when preaching's going on typing should be stopping yeah i agree you shouldn't be typing i agree you should be listening because god's got something for you and you're being distracted usually by the enemy in my opinion or your flesh one of the two talking amongst yourselves it's one thing to greet each other and to say amen or whatever type amen or stand in agreement or whatever it's another thing to sit there and have a conversation and

i don't know if that actually happens but it probably does because we're carnal people need to not be conversing with one another when they're watching somebody preach. But still, you're not together in fellowship. I just meant there's actually people that I've read comments or emails from that have a group of people go to their house and they stream it on their TV. So they have like a, it's almost like a home group.

Yeah. But they're watching them. There's a Canadian family that does that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. Yeah. Do that. Yeah. Do that. Do that. Do that. That's a great idea.

I totally forgot about that. I thought you meant like they were talking on the thing. No. That needs to be corrected too. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So let's look at this.

This is very, very interesting. See, the thing is, is when you guys ask questions, it really, like, a lot of times I already know the answer, but I always have to dig deeper. That's one of the reasons why I won't take questions on the fly because then I miss some of the things like this that I want to tell you. And if there's a question or anything that anybody has on there that you think I might or that I need to interact with,

you just shoot it over and tell me. Otherwise, we're just going to keep going. Yep. Focus. Got my blinders on. I will ask you, on what day did the first church meet? The facts are nobody knows. Not anybody knows what day the first uh what day they officially met

uh but there is scripture so there's no scripture that says that the early church met on Saturday nothing there is scripture that's that does talk about when they did meet in different places which is very interesting when I was doing my research and looking up scripture, I was like, holy mackinollies, I never noticed this. Now on the first day of the week, which the first day of the week is still Sunday, that was still considered Sunday. Now on the first day of the week when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight so he's preaching they took communion and he was

preaching on the first day which would be what day sunday sunday first corinthians 16 2 says on the first day of the week let each of you um each one of you lay something aside storing up as he may prosper that there be no collections when i come so somebody was giving tithe and offering on the first day of the week what would you be doing that at probably a service the assembling of yourself together whoa yeah i don't know call me crazy but I don't think God really cares Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

as long as you're going I don't think he cares but yet there's an entire denomination based on on Saturday it just proves that people don't read their Bible. They follow doctrines.

Doctrines are dangerous, people. That's the reason why we call ourselves full gospel. We are full gospel, which means we are no doctrine. Doctrines are dangerous because they're man-made. Yep. And a lot of times, men have ulterior motives as to the reason why they're creating that doctrine. Have no doctrine. Just follow the Bible.

Next question. Hey, I got no timer. Oh, I'll put it up for you. How long did I do that? You got 35 minutes. I got 35 minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll put it up.

That's good. Well, you know what? It really don't matter. I'm going to go until I go. You just yeah, yeah. Woo-woo. I'll put it up. That's good. Well, you know what? It really don't matter. You can, I'm going to go until I go. You just do, yeah. To some degree. But you can help me out. Did you know you always wanted to be in ministry?

Somebody asked me if I always know. And you know what? I'm going to turn this so it's not really so much about me. I'm going to make this be about people in general. I'll answer this question for myself, okay? But in general, a lot of times people ask you a question like, did you know that you always wanted to be in ministry? A lot of times they're asking that question because they're trying to figure out

if they're supposed to be in ministry. Like, what does that look like? How did you find that out, you know? No, the answer is no, I did not know I always wanted to be in ministry at all. I had no desire to be in ministry whatsoever I grew up in a Christian home always my parents for the most part every church we ever went to a lot of them were small some of them were big but on the whole a lot of them were small so everybody was really close to one another we all were a very tight-knit group the pastor was friends with the congregation that might be the reasons why they

were small yeah because that's not always the best thing yeah um but we were always uh always always even in the big churches my family i don't know why we were close to the pastor and their family. That might be the reason why I dated both pastor's sons that one time. Because I knew them. Do you know what I'm saying? And you end up liking your friends sometimes. Yeah. Like you get to know one another and you're like,

I didn't like you before, but you weren't that cute. But now I know you. You're kind of cute. We jive. We jive. We jive. So I grew up being around pastors, but I had no desire to be in ministry whatsoever until I went to high school. And this is crazy. There was a boy, my husband, actually he's Facebook friends with my husband.

I don't think he's Facebook friends with me. That's funny. Yeah. I had, like, he was, I think this guy was my brother's best man. He's the best guy in the world. That's really loud. Yeah. I had a guy that I really, really liked.

And I knew he was called into ministry. And in high school, I liked him for about, I think, my whole high school life. But the problem was I was so scared to date him. Like, I was so afraid. I didn't date somebody until I was almost 18 years of age. By the time he liked me, because he dated girls, he was a cute guy, he dated girls. By the time he liked me, I always stopped liking him. And then when he liked me, then when I liked him again,

he didn't like me. He was with another girl because he was cute. But I knew he wanted to be in ministry. And then I thought, well, I think I'm supposed to marry him or be with him which obviously you're young you're stupid you don't know any better right yeah yeah uh so i thought well then i might be in ministry if that's the case because i knew he was going to be a pastor or something guess what dang if he ain't he's a pastor and he's done a great job. He actually graduated from high school, went away to Jimmy Swaggart's Bible school. Yeah. I almost went to Jimmy Swaggart's.

I love, say what you want about Jimmy Swaggart. I like the man. I mean, everybody, everybody fails and has, and falters, and there by the grace of God go I but who am I I faltered and failed I mean everybody you know his just was so public because of who he was right I'm not saying he would he I'm not saying it was a stellar moment for the man but doesn't mean that he didn't doesn't have some great things like he's old time I still watch him me and tom we turn on you know we watch christian tv yeah we'll turn him on we both love him he's got the old style music still um it's good it's good stuff but um uh so he he went to jimmy sw. He ended up going into ministry. He married a girl from the church. They have a great family.

He's a great guy. But he is the reason why I thought I might be in ministry. And then I went hog wild and never thought I'd, I didn't even think I'd come back to God. I thought I'd, listen. Hog wild. Hog wild. I went hog wild. I thought it was over for me. I thought it, listen. Hog wild. Hog wild. I went hog wild.

I thought it was over for me. I thought it was done. But Romans 10, 29 says his gifts and callings are irrevocable. So apparently I did have a calling on my life. I just really didn't realize how serious, you know. Plus when you're young, you think, that can't be it. That can't be it. Well, it probably was. My mom, I think I've said this before. My mom prophesied before Tom and I got married.

We were, I think, engaged. I'd have to ask her. She'll probably call me when I hang up. When I get off here, she'll probably call me and be like, it was this time because my mom is very prophetic, but she remembers everything. I mean, how a woman remembers everything i do not know but she remembers everything so uh i can't even remember what i did 10 minutes ago now my mother whole different story um so uh my mom prophesied before we got married that in the seventh year that Tom and I would go into ministry.

It happened actually where Tom started doing, we didn't step out officially on our own until our seventh year. But he started doing ministry in his third. I think he was, I think he ended up doing like worship leading with Pete. He did youth pastor at that time. And I think he did something else. But I'll be honest with you. I never thought he would be a pastor. I knew he'd be called into ministry.

And boy, was I excited. Like I remember going to a beach with my girlfriend. This is right after the Lord said to me, you will be in ministry. And at that time, I had no idea. Now, some of you people are like, I know God's called me into ministry. I have no idea what it is and what it'll look like. Now, this is how stupid I was. Like I thought that we would probably be like doing a Bible study for married couples.

I'd only been married three years. Like what the heck do you know at three years? Nada, nothing. But that's how stupid you are. I was just so excited. I remember telling my girlfriend, because I had the dream the night before when the Lord told me you're going to step out.

I'm going to put you into ministry, you and Tom. And so I was so excited. And I was like, I have no idea. How long is this going to take? What's it going to be like? If you're living like that, I just was texting with my buddy this morning, Tracy's husband, and he was telling me he was deep in the word. He was like digging deep into some things.

And he knows he's got a calling on his life. He doesn't know exactly what that calling is and my words to him were that's how you get to your calling sooner because it is and I will tell you if you believe that God has called you into ministry whatever that looks like because I'll tell you Tom was petrified to speak in public he shook like he was having a seizure the very first time he preached because he was oh hold on nope that's not it um i was getting ready for dad jokes yeah oh my gosh that was that's that's my insurance company telling me about our claim and if i wasn't a holy person i might give them a hand signal i'm so irritated with them but i'm a christian and i don't do those things

so i will tell you if you feel like god's got a calling on your life and you know he wants to use you in ministry tom never would have suspected that god would use him to preach because he was he did not he when he was in college and he did public speaking he shook he was so scared i think he failed the first time he had to do one and went and sat down because he was like i can't do it god will do and call you to the things that without him, you're not capable of doing. If in your own might, you're able to do them, he doesn't need you. Yeah. It's probably not it.

Yeah. It's when it's not by your might, but his, that that's the thing. Yeah. And he made himself available. He made himself. He said, whatever you want me to do, I'll do. Yeah. Even if my stomach is growling.

Excuse me. Yes, he did. He was like want me to do, I'll do. Even if my stomach is growling. Excuse me. Yes, he did. He was like, whatever it is, I'll do it. I mean, Moses. Even if it scares me to death. Moses stuttered. Yeah. So.

100%. Which is interesting. It's very interesting. Very interesting. So I will tell you, if you think you know what it is, you don't know. Like Norma, she feels called, that God has called her to help with these crusades. She's about to go off into her second crusade. And she's been, the money has miraculously come in.

She's very blessed. But that girl sowed some crazy seed. And so I will say to you, and Tom and I had nothing to do with it. Like we hadn't, I didn't even know that this was going to happen for her. I just told her, you're going to, it's a wing and a prayer sister. If God's called you, then he'll provide the way. She always said, I will never go to Africa. Yeah.

And now she loves those people. But that's crazy because he'll, but she wants to go. She's doing the very thing that she said I never want to do. And I don't know, this might be her last trip for all we know. Who knows? But she's answering the call. But it's the same thing with like. Are you willing to be obedient?

Exactly. And it's the same thing with like Tom going to the river. I mean. Yes. He always uses the things that you swear against. Exactly. And it's the same thing with like, uh, Tom going to the river. I mean, yes, he always uses the things that you swear against. Yep. You say never to, I, and I tell you this, I don't, I hardly ever say I'll never anymore. Yeah. Every time I say I'll never, you will, except for having an, uh, except for having more children. I was like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm i'm done and then thomas like please just one more so for christmas under the tree i gave him the opportunity not physically under the tree at that

moment god bless that's a visual oh man now wow i gave him a nice card yeah and said listen you got a whole year figure it out i will have one more kid for you then he got scared and back down and i was like praise you jesus because i'm only good for two and the holy spirit was gonna have to do a major work on for me for number three but then tom realized he ain't got it for three either yeah you're outnumbered man yeah yeah you gotta be really good to have more than you have to know you have to know yourself and i know myself anything more than two i'm not the most patient of individuals everybody that knows me knows this i'm like now can you briefly talk about the time before Genesis and the flood that apparently occurred so here's the thing I've already talked about this before I actually like the person that wrote this question very very interesting I mean this

I mean I don't know them very well I'm saying. It just so happened they put their name on here. And so they're very sweet from what I know. They could be crazy behind the scenes, but they look good on the surface. So here's the thing. I did do some research because I wasn't sure exactly what we were talking about here, and it is, it's called the gap theory. It's also called the Luciferian flood. Okay, that's what you were talking about because that's the only flood prior to Noah

that has taken place that people believe. And there's no real proof of this okay all right so the gap theory for everybody that's new that didn't see i think the gap theory is like one of my first several podcasts that i did um it's also called it's also called lucifer's flood it teaches that many millions of years ago god created a perfect heaven and earth, which is in Genesis 1-1. And this happens, the theory is it happens between Genesis 1-1 and 1-2. And the reason they believe this is because some people have the theory that the seven days is like, there's different theories, but I think this is the one that they're using is a thousand days is like a day is like a thousand years in a year a year is like a thousand years is like a day

that's the scripture i believe they're basing this genesis 1 1 to genesis 1 2 on yeah but if you look at the greek for certain words for day and genesis it actually means 24 hour period so i just i just don't know yeah yeah like how that works that's why you need logos yeah exactly logos will answer your question so at that time satan was the ruler of the earth which was inhabited by a race of men with no souls. That's what people believe the gap theory, the Luciferian flood is, okay? Or Lucifer's flood. Satan rebelled and sinned entered the universe after Satan's rebellion and fall from heaven. Satan's fall also brought God's judgment in the form of a flood named for him lucifer's flood all the plant animal and human

fossils upon the earth today were caused by this flood and do not bear any genetic relationships with the plants animals and humans living today this luciferian flood is said to have occurred like i said between genesis 1 and genesis 2 1 1 1 and 2. And it was the event that explains the waters and reduced the world to without form and void, which we see in Genesis 1, 2. So that's where this theory has come into it. And I'm going to talk about, I mean, I'm going to briefly talk about this because my philosophy on things is this

it's great like a lot of people love the bible because of its history they do i i mean i i love it because of its history but the thing is is when we get so when we dig so deep into things like this and i'm not saying that this is what this person did by no means, because I don't know them well enough. What happens, though, in the past from what I have seen with people who love the history or love digging deep on these theologies and things like that, they're not out healing the sick. God bless.

Talk. Can you put me on mute real quick? Oh, yeah. So sorry. So sorry. Yeah. All right. So now I'm your guys's entertainment while she talks on the phone. So, yeah. She's laughing at me because I was trying to remember exactly where she was going with that so I could just kind of comment on it. But a lot of times people will focus on things that, like she was talking about with Old Testament studies or anything like that, and they so focus on it that they're actually not focused on doing the things that we're called to, that we're mandated to do, like going out and saving sinners, healing the sick, raising the dead, you know, giving sight to the blind, those kind of things. They get so wrapped up in these kind of controversial theories that they make the minor things major

and the major things minor. So, you know, for me, I know I love digging into things, like doing deep dives on things, but I always remember that even with the deep dive, it's still not the main thing. The main thing is always saving people, preaching the gospel, praying over the sick, and that kind of stuff. And those signs will follow those who believe. So if you believe, if you truly believe, then the signs and wonders will follow you. It doesn't mean that you're not going to do some controversial deep dives, but it just means that that's not going to be the main thing.

You don't see Jesus talking about Lucifer's flood. He wasn't talking about certain things that people get all uppity about. He actually was preaching the gospel instead. So, those are more important things. Oh, there she goes. So, now I'm... This is actually really funny because... It's so entertaining. See, this is why we do live podcasts because it's so entertaining. You never know what's going to happen. You never know if, you know, hope is going to be on

and have to take a call live and then I have to do it. But, you know, oh, here she is. She's back. Thank you, Lord God. I'm so sorry, people. Seriously, that was like 911 emergency. Had to be done. Super sorry. Listen, you have 43 people sorry, people. Seriously, that was like 9-1-1 emergency.

Had to be done. Super sorry. Listen, you have 43 people on, so. Oh, dear. Lords of mercy. So sorry. Kid you not. I was just going off of what you were saying,

is that people focus on minor things and make them major and then take the major things and minor them, which would be preaching the gospel, preaching to, preaching the gospel, healing the sick, and they focus on controversial theories instead of, you know. And the reason is, is it's so easy. It's a lot easier to study that out and to wonder what tributary that'll go to than actually getting somebody up out of a wheelchair. Correct. Correct. That's risky business. But truthfully, that's what God's called us to do. Now, here's the thing.

Perry Stone brings up a very good, he understands the Luciferian theory or whatever. But there's another theory called Pangea. Pangea. Pangea. Yeah. How do you know how to pronounce all these daggum words? I don't know. God bless you.

I do a lot of studying too. I do too, but I, listen, I'm not phonetically well, I guess. Do you put it on the little thing and make it, that's what I do when I'm trying to figure Sometimes. A lot of times, you know, it's, there's this joke, hook it on pahonics, work it for me. I can now read on the 5th grade level. Hooked on phonics, baby. Hooked on phonics.

It's good stuff. Shut up. I homeschooled. I was homeschooled, too, though. Scary. That helps me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In some ways.

Yeah. So this pangea is meaning all lands, okay? That's what pangea means, all lands. Let's see if I can pull up a picture of it. Yeah. So this Pangea is meaning all lands. Okay. That's what Pangea means. All lands. Let's see if I can pull up a picture of it. Yeah, that would be great. And what Pangea states, and he does not subscribe to this. What he's saying is that he understands there's another theory that there's two floods.

Noah's flood, but one that also took place. So you might be talking about the Pangea theory along with, or the gap theory. I don't know which one. Maybe, I don't know. So what it basically states is that the continents of the world may have been a super continent. Yeah. Which is very interesting. At one time, or a large land mass surrounded by water.

And this is not difficult to envision when observing a large world map this theory suggests that the interconnected land mass broke up forming the continents as we know them today if pangea is correct it means something occurred in the past that divided the single land area into separate continents there you go some suggest is that pangea right there yeah oh that's daggum cool so then it all spread it out yeah yeah that helps i'm telling you i'm a visual i'm a visual person yeah me too so for me to see that i'm like oh for crying out loud that makes daggum sense well and you can see like where africa fits in between the united states and south america right there yeah it like fits perfectly so. So it is interesting. It's an interesting theory. So interesting. And you know, I'll be honest with you people. I kind of wish it would have stayed like that. Because then guess what?

Hurricane Eden wouldn't have taken out my house. Yeah. And Tom would never have to fly. You could drive. Tom does not like to fly. Yeah. He could drive. But he could drive everywhere. He could take a small boat over to Africa. Yeah, a river boat. Yeah, that would be so simple. That would be so simple because I have to put my daughter on a plane on Sunday night and I'm not excited about that. Yeah, yeah.

Not because I'm worried about her. It's just like if it was a hop, skip, and a jump, guess who'd be going with her? Mama. Oh, instead it's a fortune mama ain't going yeah yeah yeah I had too much stuff to do around here but here's the thing some suggest this event was catastrophic was a catastrophic flood of Noah's day so when Noah so he understands that people understand that there's two different, but he's saying that everything's separated in Noah's time. Where, where does this come from though? Like where does the, even the idea of Lucifer's flood, because I mean, you don't really see verses. Yeah. You don't see it. That's my point though.

That's why i'm like if it ain't in the bible but here's the thing people would say to you they would they would play devil's advocate they would say well the book of enoch's not in there either yeah they would also say to you there's other there's other writings that they didn't put in there either you know tommy and i were actually talking about the book of Enoch recently, and there's proof that that was written so far after that the rest of the Bible being written, and there's stuff in there that's like...

Not right. Whack-a-do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just like Josephus. Josephus says that he's a great historian. Yeah. And he validates so many different things right yeah but josephus

even some of his stuff has been because it's person it's a person's opinion yep that they're providing whereas the bible is not a person's opinion the bible is actually god inspired yeah that's the difference completely different that's why i say i stick to the bible now you have great commentators matthew henry phenomenal but all i'm saying to you is still not the word of god it is still man's like josephus he walked during that time he's a he's a great historian we i use his stuff right i use his stuff because he talks about paul paul was per him four foot four okay did he have a measuring tape do you know i'm saying could he have just been short yeah yeah i mean they it's recorded he was bald so we know that's true there we go go. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Paul was bald. Yeah. He had a caterpillar for an eyebrow. Oh, unibrow.

Unibrow. Yep. He's bow-legged. Oh, man. Those are things that you know. But unless somebody took a tape measure to him, that's just someone's opinion. Yeah. Yeah.

It's also someone's opinion that Jesus was 4'6". Yeah. Okay? But other people say he was above five foot tall. So it just depends. That's where I say, unless it's in the Bible, we know that Jesus had no beauty in him. Isaiah clearly says he was not attractive. Yep. Even though Isaiah didn't see him, he was a prophet. He could tell. Yeah. He foretold what was to come to pass. And in everything he said, there's not been a prophetic word that has not come to pass.

Yeah. Or is going to come to pass. Correct. Because there's still prophecies that he spoke that have not come to pass only because they're in time prophecies. Right? My thing is, is like you were saying, because I could hear you while the woman was questioning me, is are you healing the sick? Are you winning the lost?

Are you discipling believers? Because truthfully, that's the great commission. That's what Jesus told us we are to do. He told us to repent, sin no more. Then, when the lost, he did say heal the sick. Yeah. Yeah. Blind I say. But he did say heal the sick. Yeah. Blind, I see.

But he did say disciple believers. So we have a great calling on our lives and a great commission. If through studying out, like maybe this person is kind of like a philosopher kind of. I'm not that deep. Yeah. Like the deeper things, unless it's like learning about like Middle Eastern stuff, I'm not a deep person, guys.

Not that I'm shallow, but this well does not go very far. This is a rabbit hole kind of thing, though. Yes. You're not interested in rabbit holes. I'm not. But here's the thing. I will say to you is this. There are some people that have a very philosophical mind.

They hang around other very philosophical people. So they can use these things to win the loss through them. So I don't want to say don't. If that's your personality and you're going to use this as a tool to win the loss, then use it. Do it. But don't get so down in the fray that you're unusable and you're actually not doing what the Holy Spirit or, you know, when he, the Holy Spirit's going to convict you.

Go and talk to that person. Yeah. Go lay hands on that person. But you don't know how to do it because you haven't, you don't focus on the real true important things. Right. Or what be considered truly important. Yeah.

That's my thing. Well, and like Paul said, I don't come with wise or persuasive words, but a demonstration of the Spirit's power. So somebody who is literally winning the most people, which was Paul, he was, I mean, brilliant. Well, yeah. He had all of the Torah memorized. Memorized.

And he wasn't going up to people and talking about Lucifer's flood. And he was a philosopher of philosophers. Yeah, yeah. He was a Pharisee of Pharisees, and he was healing people. Yeah. So it kind of tells you what's more important. Excuse me. I agree.

That Pepsi Zero guys. Oh, my gosh. I was on the phone with one of my friends. I literally, my friend Kim. I would give her a last name, but I don't want to. You know who I'm talking about? Yep, yep. Burped right in her ear.

Really loud. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. But she's my age. And like, she's, I won't say she's immature. Like, I'm an immature 55-year-old. Young at heart. Young at heart. Young at heart. Yeah, yeah.

What do they call those people who are in those 55 and older, like, Bible study groups? Oh. What do they call them? Oh. It's so churchy. I can't remember. Not elders, but. It's not, it's like young at heart, but that's not it's like young at hearts but that's it might be young at hearts yeah i'm never gonna be one of them i am never going to one of those groups

i'm never doing that but she's like me she's like she's very chill very funny like so she didn't mind the burp she didn't care well she didn't hear it oh but it was loud oh i probably thought it was like work noise i do that for band practice in the microphone on purpose because everybody has their in-ears in oh that's disgusting they love it they love it yeah in your own mind yeah yeah it's like girls like gas yeah i'm a big fan of gas you're not allowed to do that right now i'm not hey listen i've been good i've been good you've behaved it's because tom's not here the next question is some people i you know what i try and stick to the order in which i get these questions i don't always um answer them like that because some people have

personal questions that they ask me and this podcast isn't really to learn about me this podcast is to really either be about the bible or learn about like different things in life that don't do me so this one's been this one's been in the mix for a while but um it said i heard you are an excellent salesperson can you teach me your secret to your success well i'd have to if I did that I have to kill you after I was done because I don't share my secrets but there is something to be said I am a good salesperson that is true I've done sales since I was 25 sold a lot I've been very successful in sales I know a lot I do know a lot of salespeople. And we're all cut from the same cloth pretty much.

We have no heart. You can't have a heart. And the reason you can't have a heart if you're in sales is because you hear no more than you hear yes. If you're going to sit and cry every time you hear no, pack your bags. It's not going to happen for you. You just have to be like, I don't care if i hear a no

because every no i hear gets me closer to my yes you know you have to believe in what you're selling see i don't sell products anymore yeah yeah i sell jesus there you go so and you have to be confident in what you sell you have to believe in what you sell and you have to work for a company that is reputable yeah and when they don't aren't reputable anymore you have to be willing to call it a day which i've had to like when i was young when i was like 20 listen tom tells the story like i made huge money he didn't even have to cash his check from the sheriff's office wow his checks would sit in they would have to say you got checks sitting in here. Cause that's, they didn't mail them. They just put them in your mail slot.

Yeah. He would have checks sitting in there. We were rolling in the dough. I was like, I don't know. 30s, mid 30s or something like that. Making just shy of six figures at that.

That's, that's, yeah. Back in the day, it was like crazy. Usually when I've done sales, it's always been close to that because yeah whatever but here's the thing my boss decided to go around that was unethical

and would not honor the people we were selling to so i said if you do that i'm a christian you know i'm a christian and if you do that i will not be. You know I'm a Christian and if you do that I will not be working here any longer. Which I was his best salesperson. Yeah. And he opted to do it.

So he went away on vacation for a week and when he got back he had my resignation on his desk. And I don't do that. I don't care how much money

you make. Yeah. Yeah. You are your word. If you say something your word is your word you are if you if you say i'm a christian then you represent christ it doesn't mean you represent christ when it fits your criteria when it's convenient yeah Convenient. Yeah. No. Listen, you don't count the cost. Yeah. You do what is right every stinking time. And God looks at those things. He who is faithful with a little will be faithful with much.

Yep. And if you prove yourself that you can be faithful and honor, then he'll take you to places. But most people would never have done that. Yeah. I came home. I told Tom. I was like, this is what he's going to do. I said, I can't do that. He's like, you to places. But most people would never have done that. I came home. I told Tom. I was like, this is what he's going to do. I said, I can't do that. He's like, you're quitting.

He had no qualms about it at all. One of my last jobs, I absolutely loved it. I made great money in sales. Great money. They started doing things that weren't ethical. And I was like, I guess it's time to go. So I went. And then I got a better job.

I made way more money than I guess it's time to go. Yeah. So I went, and then I got a better job. Yeah. Made way more money than I was making at the other place. Yeah. Because, again, he who is faithful with a little will be faithful with much. And then I took this job, and it was a pay cut. But it doesn't matter. But now you get to do this. Because I have a podcast now.

Yeah, exactly. But here's the thing. It doesn't matter because I love this job yeah i've like i've always had two to three jobs even though you're making money like i work for the church for free i think god made a good gave me a good job where we made decent money i've also not worked yeah so because we're raising our kids and we homeschooled and you have to make sacrifices in life. It's season, times and seasons. And you have to be willing to go through those times and seasons.

But God always provides. He is always faithful no matter what. If you pay your tithe. Yep. People always, always, always want the benefits without the obedience. Yeah. And it doesn't work like that. If you want all that God has for you,

you must be obedient and then watch out. Because he's coming. And he comes good. It's like they want salvation without repentance. Same kind of thing. It's like I said last time. It costs you nothing, but you give up everything. You give up you. Which is the best thing you'll ever do in your whole life you know and people

say well it's easy for you to say well yeah you might be able to say that but it hasn't always been no no people have no clue they look at where you are now versus what it took to get you there. It's a lot of grinding. And I'm still grinding. Oh, yeah. It's like today. Today was, this morning, did not go as planned. But I put on joy. Yeah.

And that's what I decided to do. No matter what came against me. No matter, I've been up since four in the morning. Oh, my gosh. The Lord woke me up at four in the morning. Oh my gosh. The Lord woke me up at four in the morning. I was praying. Didn't get to sleep back till six. And then thank God, thank God I was able to sleep until nine.

But then I popped up. But it was not a restful night. So it's not been like, but that's life, you know. And then I'll be working till late tonight. Because you don't, in ministry, you don't stop. I don't care what anybody says. I don't remember the last day I had off. I don't care.

I could care less. I love what I do. So it doesn't matter. But most importantly, as I always say at the end of every show or every podcast, is where are you with the Lord? Because it just doesn't matter. Nothing else in this world matters except Him. And you may say, well, I'm just not ready.

Well, I applaud you for being honest. Be hot or cold for the lukewarm i will spew out of my mouth it'd be far better for you to just say it's not for me right now i'll keep watching you because i like learning different things or whatever i'll keep watching you because it's mildly entertaining but um it's not for me well at some, your heart may change because I've been there. Aaron's been there. It wasn't for us. But eventually, God, it's like fishing.

Like you said, he just keeps reeling in slowly and you just keep getting softer and softer, whether you realize it or not. It's a beautiful thing. So there might be some of you that are saying, you know what? I was not willing but i am now and today's your day whether you walked away and you want to get your life right or it's your first time whatever the case may be the angels rejoice in heaven for every sinner that comes

home yeah so not only will we be excited about your return but heaven just goes off that it's like uh what's what's that um i'm not thinking it's a wonderful life that's not what i'm thinking but what is it that like when you're in like you're in a sports arena and the like the person makes makes the net like a basketball player shoots and makes it the whole place goes crazy yeah right yeah that's like it is what it's what's what it's like in heaven with the angels i mean it's that big of a deal it's like you just won the game yeah yeah because in all out in all actuality when you do ask uh do get saved whether you realize it or not you just won the game yeah so it's that big of a deal it's it's very loud i mean it's very very um it's very loud up there it's like a block party it's like a block party

yeah and you know what people are coming home all the time. So can you imagine the continuous noise? Yeah. It's crazy. And I will tell you this. If you haven't listened to Jesse DePlantis, have you listened to Jesse DePlantis' Heaven? Where he went to heaven? No.

What Tom was talking about on Sunday? Yeah, yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Unbelievable. Like the anointinging my mom actually watched it and um this is a side note we're gonna go back but listen if you haven't watched jesse duplantis's uh message about heaven he did one recently um i think at uh i don't know where it's at um but

it was a very beautiful church. My mom called me. I called my mom up because I call her every day, and she was like in tears. She said the anointing was so powerful. You know what Tom said when he was listening to it? He was like, it is so heavily anointed, you can feel it. Just through the video. He's like, you know it was real. Tom is the biggest skeptic on the face of the earth outside of aaron true and my son they're all three very skeptical

but it was it's unbelievably powerful so go on youtube look up jesse de plantis his uh story about heaven i think it's about an hour and 45 minutes or something like that because you know the very beginning is very powerful too but um but back to uh well here's the thing you should watch Jesse Duplantis's thing about heaven because listen if you ain't saved you're gonna want to go there for real I mean it'll make you want to go and he even talks about a man. He talks about a man when he goes up. He sees a man who came up on another... They go up on a gondola.

It's like going up a gondola. This man comes out and he is kissing the ground. He's like, oh my gosh, I made it. He couldn't believe it. Then there were people that were just walking in there like they knew they were like let's not be the one that's like kissing the ground thing thank god i made it yeah yeah you know because not everybody's going to make it most will not narrow is the way

there are a few that be that find it and broad broad is the road to destruction. That's where, I mean, broad is the road. That means it's pretty wide because that's the travel path that most go. So most will not go to heaven. Let's make sure that you are one that will. So let's say this sinner's prayer with me right now. Heavenly Father, I come to you right now. I ask you to be the Lord and Savior of my life. I ask you to be the Lord and Savior of my life. I ask you to forgive my sin.

And when I die, I will go and be with you in heaven. I turn from my ways and I serve you for all the rest. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. If you said that prayer, please, please, please let us know. We're going to pray with you. We're going to stand with you. In Matthew, it talks about the parable of the sower.

Almost every seed that was sown was snatched away. There's only one that actually flourished and grew. And we want to stand and pray that you are the one that grows. The way to do that is to get into a solid Bible-based church. Watch Foundation Church. My husband, I know he's my husband, and I know you would consider me preg, but I'm just telling you, he's probably one of the few out there that gives you Bible more than most. The other one is Revival Today. Tune into them. Jonathan Shuttlesworth is stinking hilarious and full of the gospel.

I would also tell you to watch Pastor Rodney Howard Brown. He's phenomenal and powerful anointing. You can fill up your week with solid teaching and filled with the word and no world. Get rid of the world. We've got so much world being infiltrated with us. Fill yourself up with the word. You know, we've got so much world being infiltrated with us. Fill yourself up with the word. You'll become solid. You'll start going out winning the loss and discipling your own believers and taking them with you to heaven.

What a great day. There'll be crowns in heaven for you. So have a great weekend. I look forward to seeing you next Wednesday. I'll look lots better. I can promise you that. Wednesday is going to be a great day. Jesus mighty name. Have a great weekend. We'll see those of you that attend church here at Foundation.

I'll see you on Sunday. If you have no church and you live in the area, we welcome you to come. The address is, we gave you the address, right? You gave them the address where to go? Are you telling them where to go? You gave them the website? Yeah. Look it up. Yeah. Have a great day. Bye. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk.