The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E31 | 05-03-23

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

Question 1The Bible talks about faith as small as a mustard seed (super small) yet, how is it that someone can have such HUGE faith – that seems larger than containable and yet still not move the mountain?Question 2This next question is from the same person and coincides with the question that I just answered. Here it is: What is the difference between “unbelief” and “denial” when facing issues of faith?

Real Talk Real Talk Real Talk Real Talk Hello everyone, welcome to the Hope Hotline. I appreciate you joining in. Apparently on Rumble, we got some good numbers going on right now. My watch is going to drive me crazy. I got to take this thing off.

It keeps, it's rubber band, like, oh gosh, keeps getting stuck. So that's my problem. That's a personal problem. If you were in this room and you looked over at Tracy right now, I can't even look at her. She has these headphones on with your hair pulled back. You look like a mouse. Oh, my word. I'm not going to even look at you.

I don't think I can. Okay, so let's move right on in. This is the last week. I think you, well, next week too, but register for Radiance. It is Pastor Adalys Magalys Revival Today, their women's conference next week. We fly up on Wednesday. Thursday is the first. Oh, my gosh.

Why did I even look at you? And now she's like being goofy over there when I look at her. I'm not looking at you anymore. So Thursday is the first session and then goes all the way through Saturday. So pretty excited about that. Make sure you register online. I think it's, didn't you guys say that you can register

if you're going to watch or if you're going to be in person? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Revivaltoday.com slash Radiance. I hope people can hear you, right? Yeah, they can hear me. Yeah. Okay.

We are keeping, I love that so much. We're keeping the microphone over there. Is that why you waved at me, Tracy? Because I'm not looking at you. Is that why you waved, Tracy? So that, because you weren't willing to say something into the microphone? No. Okay.

That's a very quiet no. They can still hear you. Okay, so we're going to keep the microphone, and I have to tell you people, I love live. I really do. My husband, it's a rare moment in time, but he was right. He is absolutely right. I love live.

He's been telling me to go live since the beginning of this podcast. I was not up for it that's my shoes that you hear they're cutting the circulation off of my feet so I just took them off pain pain my friends so um I do love live we're gonna stay live we're not gonna do anything else unless well next week we are actually actually next week we do have both things recorded. But other than that, from this point on, we are live. Period. So, Heather.

Sorry about that, Tracy. Tracy, you got anything to add for the people out there? No, I'm glad to be here. I'm glad to be back. I'm glad you're back, too. We missed you. We missed you. But Aaron was a great felon.

He was. Yeah, he can be trans you. But Aaron was a great felon. He was. Yeah, he can be trans for a couple days. Oh my gosh. He can get in touch with his personal side, his feminine side, for about two hours out of the week. So you did a great job. And Aaron is in the room, as you heard. He is.

This might be his final time in here since we're going live. He's training Tracy. And Tracy's going to go solo, I think, on Friday. Yeah. Yeah, we got this. Yeah. So from this point on, no more Aaron after today. But we are going.

Great job, Aaron. Thank you for everything you do for us. Seriously, I love you for it. We are going to go straight into the questions now my first three questions are basically from the same person and here are people listen they're they're all different to a certain extent so that's the reason why i don't mind i i want if you have like a series of questions and they may all be different I don't care uh I'm not gonna like split them up and I'm trying to take them pretty much in the order they're given and um so if you put a bunch of questions all on the same page I will try and answer all those questions

if they are all similar I will I probably won't do that I'll break them up a little bit but for the most part this the first three are from the same person so if it's you then you'll know they're very good questions though I actually was I was very happy with them so it says the bible talks about faith as small as a mustard seed super small actually that mustard seed seed is the tiniest seed that exists. How is it that someone can have such huge faith that seems larger than containable and yet still not move the mountain? So that mustard seed is the tiniest seed, but it actually grows the largest plant. So it's funny how God made the mustard seed and he used it as an example because you can have small faith

or us you know what God said or what Jesus was saying is your faith can be small and you can still it can be you know the seed of the mustard seed is is is going to grow something big but you can have such small faith that you can even move them out now all of us are given a measure of faith I won't get ahead of myself but um I don't think we all use the measure that we've been provided and a lot of the teachings that I listen to all confirm this because we should be growing in the measure that we've been given we start we start small and we grow in that and we see bigger better things because of the faith that we're progressing in but let's look at that scripture because you referenced the moving the mountain it says in mark 11 20 through 22 it says now in the morning as they passed by

and this would be the disciples with Jesus they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots and Peter It says, this fig tree and Jesus cursed it and the reason he cursed it is because the fig tree was producing leaves when it produced leaves it should produce fruit and because it did not Jesus cursed it look the fig tree you the fig tree you which you cursed has withered away in order for and there's Matthew talks about this too but what Jesus basically did is he cursed the tree at the root. The root is where everything lives and grows. So when he cursed the tree, he actually cursed the root. And from the root up, it died. So Jesus answered and said to him,

Have faith in God, for assuredly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, be removed and be cast into the sea and had and does not doubt in his heart but believes that those things he says will be done he will have whatever he says and therefore I say to you whatever things you ask when you pray believe you receive them and you will have them something interesting and I'm not going to go into this in great detail but I will tell you the mountain that he was talking about, do some research on this because it's super interesting. The mountain that he's referring to when he was speaking to the disciples,

he basically pointed to a mountain, was speaking about that particular mountain. If you study it out, it'll blow your mind because even that mountain was significant as to the reason into what he was saying about cat say to that mountain be cast into the sea it's very very i mean there nothing that jesus did god does is insignificant say that for me insignificant oh i just said it insignificant i don't know why i couldn't say that word um everything has meaning it has it has something some substance to it so um if you ever have time it's worthy check it out about that mountain it's very very interesting let's look at what uh verse 22 says so let's go back up it says now in the oh excuse me let me see it says therefore I say

to you whatever things you say when you pray let me know no no no that's not it have faith in God that's verse 22 how it says so Jesus answered him and said unto them have faith in God and that part of the verse or this of the scripture have faith in God if you look at the King James Version because I did the New King James Version it says have the faith of God what happens is most people don't have they have faith it says have faith in God but what what the scripture is actually saying is have the faith of God. How many of us walk around and have that same measure of faith that God has? We don't see what we're expecting because we don't have the measure of faith that God uses. We have the measure of faith that we use or we believe.

We think that that's such great faith, but not in comparison to what the scripture says. The scripture says we are to have the faith of God. Greek scholars say that the literal translation of what Jesus said there was, have the God kind of faith. I would dare say almost everyone has not gotten to that place. There are many that have have but most do not have the god kind of faith if you're not seeing things happening when you're praying i would ask you do you have the god kind of faith you your question was how is it that someone can have such huge faith is that

huge faith the God kind of faith to have the God kind of faith that would require you what are you doing with your time how do you spend it when you spend time uh do you spend it in the word do you spend it in praise and worship do you spend it in prayer um do you spend it in fellowship with other believers where iron sharpening iron do you spend sorry i have something in my mouth do you send it spend it in listening to teachings um um whoo this is why you don't like going live okay i think i got it um so no i didn't i think i got it um and see that's that's the whole that's the devil trying to distract me because i'm actually i i know i'm penetrating somebody's heart right now because I think that people think that they have

the amount of faith that they need to move mountains and they don't even, you haven't even dipped your toe into the level in which the faith that is needed. I speak this because when I say this, I'm saying this to myself, but I will tell you all I do pretty much all day long is saturate myself in the word, in teachings, listening to worship music. There is little to no other anything else that I do

because the thing is, is time is of the essence. I want the God kind of faith. I want to say to someone, you know, that's in a wheelchair, rise up, stand up and walk. I want to be able to say to someone that is blind, your eyes will be opened. You can see. I want somebody that's deaf to be able to hear. So, and various other things. I mean, we see so much healing in this church. It's crazy in comparison to any other church

that I've ever attended in the past, outside of Revival Today. And they see all monumental as well. And also the river. We do. Yeah. We do. We film them. Huh? We film we film them yeah we don't even

we don't even film all the ones because people won't do it right they refuse to dig they're embarrassed so we do film the ones that will do it but we've had a lot that that that won't they will not they won't uh they're not comfortable in doing it I get that and then we hear through the grapevine about some and you're not going to get those either but we see a lot in fact it's so funny because when Jonathan was here

Pastor Jonathan when he was here one of the things he said is I didn't even have to rev up the crowd like he says the first two to three days he spends getting people to the level of faith to receive he's like I didn't have to do up the crowd like he says the first two to three days he spends getting people to the level of faith to receive he's like I didn't have to do that at all like you walk in and this this congregation they're ready well that's because they're taught faith every single week um so uh when you're taught it it's already it's embedded into you you're taught it, it's already, it's embedded into you. You're not having to give revelation knowledge to someone.

So the people are ready to receive automatically, which is a great, hey, listen, that's a huge compliment from Pastor Jonathan to the people of our church. Like you guys were ready. There was open hearts to whatever he was willing to say and to receive it. So kudos to you guys. So when Jesus said to that fig tree and he cursed it and it died, that just showed he had the God kind of faith. But when you believe with your heart, what do you say out of your mouth? So you can say one thing with your heart and and and or believe

one thing with your heart and say another thing out of your mouth but I will say that but the scripture does say out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks so you can have faith in your heart but you can also have doubt with your words so and that is very clear in Romans 12, 3. No, that's not the one I wanted. Hold on. That's my next one. So forget that. Romans 12, 3 says, For I say through the grace given to me,

to everyone who is among you, do not think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly as God has dealt to each one of us, each one a measure of faith. So sometimes I think people think that they're operating in that measure and they think more highly of themselves than they should, but they don't also examine. And they, hey, listen, they might be doing way better than most.

I say I do better than most. It's truth, I do. I see healing left and right. I've been told, you're not coming out of the hospital. And the next day, the child's coming out. And this isn't even my kid. This was somebody else's. I didn't even know this family.

Their child was given not a good report. And so it was a friend of somebody who comes to the church. I said, listen, I'll come and pray with them on the way or the night before I go. The parents said, yes, please have her come if she's willing to pray. We go. The mother even left the hospital room. Thank God, because she had doubt. She left the hospital room, left us, me and a friend of mine in the room with a little girl.

The Lord specifically told me what to do with this child they were given a terrible report the next day she's gonna she's out of the hospital all the time you see you if you you know if you're about kingdom business you see kingdom results but i think everybody thinks that they are using the measure that is necessary when they're not truly reflecting on how much of the world they take in on a daily basis versus the word. Faith comes by hearing, hearing by the word. You don't gain in faith if you're not in the word, if you're not listening to the word, if you're not worshiping, things like that. All of that matters. The more world you take in, the less results you'll get that you're wanting.

We live with a lot of tension and anxiety and things like that. That doesn't help. I mean, you have to be like those things, the cares of this world, they don't matter. It's how are you operating in your day-to-day and walk with God. It matters. So you'll measure, you'll have the measure of faith if you soberly, you'll use the measure that you're given if you soberly look at yourself and think of yourself in the, not in the way that you want to believe that you are, but in the way that is truth. Because a lot of times people are not

honest with themselves i mean all of us have been there it's to some extent where we don't are not willing to look at ourselves honestly um and then if you don't do that you're selling yourself short if you if you're barely saved and you think you're you're going with flying colors into the kingdom of heaven if you're barely saved you're going backwards you should be examining yourself and saying okay something's not right here there's a lot of compromise in my life I better weed that out so you know so I can make sure that I enter into the kingdom of heaven but a lot of times we want to hang on to the old me just enough to get us into into heaven or get the results that we're wanting by still hanging on to this old me that's not what god wants he said to repent and that means go

opposite direction of of what you were going that means you are going to be chasing after holiness you're going to be running after the thinking seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things will be added unto you you have to be seeking the kingdom you can't be just fitting God in and compartmentalizing him into the things that fits your convenience or your criteria God wants all of you, not parts of you. That's just the way it is. So let's see. Let me ask you this. A lot of times people think that forgiveness doesn't matter. Sin doesn't matter.

If you're wanting healing for someone or claiming something or standing on something, it absolutely does. Because James 5.16 says, Confess your trespasses to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed. If you have unforgiveness in your heart, it matters. So if someone has sinned against you, or you're harboring something against somebody, and you're like, I have a huge amount of faith, you might. You might have the measure that that will provide that healing for you but unforgiveness unforgiveness cannot happen because it it finishes off uh 516 finishes off with the effective ferment prayer of a righteous man avails much in so much you forgive you are forgiven that's what the bible said so if you want to be healed or you're standing on something for someone else, make sure

that they've forgiven everybody. That if they're saying, I have the amount of faith and I want you to stand with me, make sure there's no unforgiveness with them. If you are standing on something or if you're standing for healing, make sure you have forgiven everybody that needs to be forgiven. No one's worth your, you know, in so much you forgive, you're forgiven. healing make sure you have forgiven everybody that needs to be forgiven no one's worth your you know in so much you you forgive you're forgiven no one's worth your salvation and no one's worth your healing they're not just forget about it move on forgive them because it ain't what they're not thinking about you they ain't thinking a bit about you so don't be thinking about them never not never allow someone to rent space in your mind. No one's worth it.

Mark 11, 25 through 26 is, so we did, the verse that we started out with, with the moving of the mountains is Mark 11, 20 through 22, right? Now, if you go a little bit further down, and it talks about the mountain being moved, Mark 11, 25 through 26 coincides, and it talks about the mountain being moved a mark 11 25 through 26 coincides and it talks about forgiveness it says and whenever you stand praying if you have anything against anyone forgive him that your father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses that's what i was saying and so much you forgive you are forgiven if you want it talks about moving the mountain if you want to move the mountain, you have to forgive. But if you do not forgive, neither will your father in heaven forgive you your trespasses.

All of us have a lot to be forgiven of. I don't think there's anybody watching this that doesn't have, I have a huge amount that I've asked God to forgive me for. I cannot afford not to have that forgiveness. So I forgive everyone and anyone that harbors or has a problem with me or has done something against me it's not worth it it's not worth salvation so at the end of the day you can have huge faith but is it the God kind of faith compare if if you have the God kind of faith. Compare. If you have the God kind of faith, have you forgiven?

That's huge. Do you have sin that's unrepentant that you have to get out? It matters. Compromise, things like that. Get rid of it. Be perfect as our Father is perfect, is what the word says.

Now, your acts don't get you healed you don't work to be healed that's a provision that's already provided for you but there are certain criteria to receiving that healing which unforgiveness is not an option that's not a work that's an that's just a commandment and sin is a commandment. And sin is a commandment. You cannot have sin. The other thing is, do you have the God kind of faith? If you don't have the God kind of faith and you're living with expectation of healing, super easy. Dig deep.

Get in the word. Nothing else matters. You know, Creflo Dollar and Dodie Osteen, when they were given no hope no hope they were given they were terminal and they were told you're going to die of cancer and you have little to no time Dodie Osteen was like 24 hours she closed herself up in her room put uh bible scriptures all around it she has an amazing testimony and did not leave she's still alive to this day faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word the word is what works and one of my girlfriends she told me when she was healed of cancer she's one of the things that the lord told her and she didn't even know it was in

the bible did not even know until i sent her the scripture but one of the big things that the lord told her to do i want you to wash It's the washing of the washing of the water of the word. And that's what it says in the Bible. You're washed in the water of the word. And that's all that the Lord kept telling wash in the water of the word. And that's all she did. Healed of cancer. But the word matters. It does. So if you're doing those, if you're not doing those things, get on it and be honest with yourself. Do you have the faith of God? Or do you have your faith? Not the God kind of faith, but do you have your own faith?

It makes a difference. Knowing the word will transform whether or not you understand the true principles behind healing and the mustard seed of faith that's all that matters so and tracy is shaking her head yes because she's not going to talk very much that's really good that's a very practical way to apply that question kind of like a checklist to go down to make sure that you're crossing things off. Yeah, because a lot of people say, I have a huge amount of faith. But do you actually have what the words, the faith that the word says you're supposed to have? And a lot of people don't.

Because they watch TV or they're on Instagram or Facebook or on their computer researching things. They're not in the word. They're in the world. But they want the word's results without having not in the word they're in the world but they want the word they want the words results without having to put the word in into it into practice that's the crazy thing to me people want Jesus kind of results without implementing Jesus in their life it don't work you have to die to yourself you might have to fast you might have to miss a meal right god forbid

but guess what kill that carnal nature and get that doubt and unbelief out of your heart and bang you see the results that you never thought you'd see before it's it's unbelievable and unforgiveness too that was really good what is that a lot of people live in unforgiveness a lot and they don't even realize that's a huge mountain it's a huge mountain and and and the thing is is I will tell you this for me self-introspection a lot of times you have to really sit still and examine and you might have to go through a list of prior friends prior family that you don't have much contact with anymore you might might have to go through them and say, why do I not have contact with them anymore? Is it that I harbor ill will towards them? Or is it just, it just doesn't work anymore. But you have to be honest with yourself why you're not communicating with certain people anymore. And if it is unforgiveness, not always does that mean

that you have to contact them and say, please forgive me it means is is is your heart pure right do you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that if you saw them you would not be bitter or angry towards them you could just see them and life would be fine it wouldn't be a big deal you could actually if you saw them and they needed something you'd be more than happy to provide that to them that's how you know if you have unforgiveness or if you've forgiven somebody. It's how you would respond to them in different scenarios and situations. Or would you actually rejoice

that they're going through something difficult? A lot of times people, if they're honest with themselves, if they find out somebody that they don't like, like you worked with somebody who screwed you over and you literally can't forgive them and you don't work there anymore, but you find out they got fired. You're like, hot dog. They got their dues.

That's unforgiveness. What you should be is like, you know what? I hope they fall back on their feet. You know, but reaping and sowing, that's reaping and sowing. God's word is always truth. Vengeance is his. I don't rejoice in their suffering. But what I do know is that God's word is God's word is always truth. Vengeance is his. I don't rejoice in their suffering, but what I do know is that God's word is God's word. You don't mess with God's righteousness.

He repays. Now I'm going to just move on because I don't really care about it, but I hope they land back on their feet or they learn the lesson they need to so that they can move on. If they're Christians, you want that. If they're not, then you want them to find the Lord. So your hope isn't that they be blessed necessarily, but your hope is that they become redeemed through their own repentance and that God restores. Everybody should always want, and this is the thing I will tell you, Tom has been so good at teaching me this because I wasn't like this, but he has taught me everybody is redeemable. And our hope is that everybody will be redeemed and restored. And he is absolutely right.

Because I used to be back in the day. I'd be like, I don't want them to go to heaven. I mean, go to hell. But I want them to go to heaven. But being redeemed with me, I could care less. But that's not, true forgiveness is redemption all the time. Restoration all the time. That's truth and so if you can honestly be

true to yourself and looking at that question and answering it as honestly as you possibly can and know that yeah i i want them to be restored i want them to be redeemed then you're in great shape but most people they rejoice when they find out somebody who has done them wrong is getting their dues. You know, they are. But the Bible is clear on that. Don't rejoice. Do not be happy about that. So next question. It's very similar to the first question, but still different. It says, what's the difference between unbelief and denial when facing issues of faith? Now, I will tell you, I love, love, love what Kenneth Copeland,

and you can love him or hate him all you want to, but the man has done and seen mighty miracles of God. And if you can say you've done the same, then toss out what he has to say. But if you haven't come close to what he's done for the kingdom, then maybe you need to be a little quiet and listen to what he has to say and say, I might be able to learn something from the guy. Okay? Because you don't have to like everybody's, but if they're doing better than you, you might want to listen to them.

Right? So what he said is so good. He said there's a big difference between faith and denial. Denial ignores natural facts and chooses to believe something else, even though there is no foundation for it. Faith, on the other hand, has good reason for what it believes. Faith doesn't ignore the facts. It overrides them with a higher reality.

That is truth. Faith is a substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. That's what Hebrews says. I'm going to tell you this story. Kenneth Hagin, this is such a great story. When Kenneth Hagin was, and this is for people that talk about denial, right? When you take those pictures, do not take my, I have no shoes on. So don't take my pictures of my feet. We're live, people, seriously. So you don't take my, oopsie, my hair. You could sell those.

Sell my feet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, feet pics. People are into that. That's disgusting. Oh, yeah. disgusting oh yeah yeah yeah tracy says big money you're not on the i really don't want i mean i did just get my toes done yeah see that's that's big money big money big money when your feet just get done oh yeah oh yeah there are like apps for that. That's disgusting, people.

That's disgusting. Degenerates. Degenerates, exactly. Although my husband does love my feet. He thinks they're cute. Yeah. But not in a sick sort of way. Yeah.

That's sick, right? I'm not crazy? No. Yeah, okay, Tracy says that's sick. Do you think that's sick, Aaron? Yeah, people have feet fetishes, yeah. But you think that's sick, too. I mean, you probably think Naz I mean you probably think Naz is super cute yeah I like my wife's feet but I know I'm not a foot person yeah that's disgusting weird yeah yeah okay if you're a foot person I would just offended you I I'm not sorry I am not sorry that's weird yeah sorry not

sorry that's gross but don't take pictures on my feet okay so they will be up later on instagram if you'd like to see oh my gosh pictures of uh hope's new pedicure yeah we have a subscription option so you can pay monthly aaron this is aaron's last friday aaron's last podcast he's living it up right now yeah well tracy's taking pictures aaron's running the thing okay so here's the thing because my daughter is not with me today norma is in south africa well actually she's in where's she at tracy i wish you could see her face um tata she's in um tata at a Jesus crusade with Bea and Daniel.

So with Take the Nations. This is the first night of the crusade. So she's not here taking pictures. Okay, I digress. Let me get back on the thing about denial and faith. Denial and faith, right? Isn't that what it is? Faith, oh, unbelief and denial.

Okay, which I think basically, I say unbelief and denial. I guess what I just, I'm talking about faith and denial. But that doesn't apply. Actually, I'm thinking about that because you're talking about unbelief and denial I'm going to tell you this anyway because this story does apply to it so here's the thing Kenneth Hagin when he um he actually um at a very young age he was given no chance to live um um he was a Baptist he didn't know anybody that knew about faith, but he dug into the word while he, I mean, literally he was bedridden. He couldn't do anything else. I mean,

he could probably done other things, but he chose to read the Bible and get in the word. And through the word, he found his healing because he realized that healing was for today. And then he just spent time in prayer, talked to God all the time God gave him revelation knowledge which made the word become more real because then he found more truths about faith and about healing so this story is after he's been healed and he's no longer gotten a death sentence over himself and he's out of the bed and he's now going gotten a death sentence over himself, and he's out of the bed, and he's now going to church. He was ministering, but he wasn't married. But, you know, he knew so much about the Word,

now he's going out and he's ministering in churches and visiting churches and going to church. So this story is where he went to a church service. He woke up one morning, and half of his face, he had bowel palsy. He didn't realize that half of his face had fallen so he goes to church he goes with his friend and she's like dude what's wrong with your face and he's like I don't know I woke up half my face was like this and the other half is normal so he goes to church and he asks the pastor to pray over him before they leave and the pastor absolutely does now him before they leave. And the pastor absolutely

does. Now this is the difference between Kenneth Hagan and everybody else that doesn't receive healing. He knew that when he prayed, he received. And what he, his big thing is, is, and it works because it just worked for me with my back. My back, not last week, the week before. I don't normally have back problems. When I do, I'm in so much pain. It's like at least a week. So I woke up and I was like, oh my gosh, what the heck? What's wrong with my back?

And I applied what he said. So I prayed instantly. I said so I prayed instantly I said I prayed instantly and then what Kenneth Higgins says and he does this when well he doesn't do anymore he passed away but he would do this he's like I believe I received at this time on this date so that's what I did I said I said I believe I received healing for my back at this, when I prayed, I would say, let's just use this. I believe I received at 420 on April 30th when I prayed for healing for my back. So he always spoke what he believed he had already received.

So what he did is he applied that. When that pastor prayed, he knew what time he prayed. He knew the date. He goes home and his friend was like talking about his face how it's still he's like i'm healed and she's like you don't look healed i'm healed and he would just say keeps repeating i believe i received right next morning now let me go back they go home takes, walks her home and then takes him to see, takes him up to this girl's mom and said, Hey mama, look at his face. Is he healed? And she's like, no,

he's not healed. The next morning he wakes up. Now they laughed at him. They mocked him because he said, I am healed. And they thought he was in denial. They even said, you're in denial. You're not healed. He's like, I'm not, I'm not in denial. I know what the word of God says. My faith, my face just has to catch up with my faith and what I believe because I believe I am healed. So the next morning he wakes up and guess what? His face is exactly the way the one half is now the same as the other half. They both coincide. Now that doesn't just happen. That happens because when people spoke doubt and unbelief and denial over him,

he said, no, I know what the word of God says. I know what my faith says and faith is a substance of hope things hope for it and the evidence of things not seen I mean people can say that you're into I've had lots of people say about different faith things that people are standing on you're living in denial well okay if that's if you want your life to reflect that when the Word of God says that these things shall come to pass and they haven't come to pass and somebody wants to say that you're living in denial, let them say that you're living in denial. That's their faith.

That's what they believe. And they will think you're crazy for standing in faith and having no doubt. Okay? Let them. Because they'll see nothing. That's what James says. They'll be tossed like the wind. You doubt and unbelief, you have doubt and unbelief in your life

and you still say you have faith. It says that man shouldn't expect nothing because he believes two different things. He's like a man tossed to and fro in a wave. You're like, you're not going to get anything. That is what it says in James. So let them live that kind of faith. But you live with the faith that the word says you can have,

even when people will think you're crazy. The worst thing that can happen is, is you don't see the results that you're believing for. The best thing that can happen is you see it more often than not. And I will tell you, that's how me and Tom have lived. And we see more things happen than not. Because we live in a faith that we believe we received when we prayed. And I would tell you to.

So when I woke up and my back was out, my back, for two days, I was in severe pain. And I would constantly say I believe I received and you know what by the third day at noon I realized oh my gosh my back doesn't hurt and I went to bed in severe pain but I never stopped I was like I know I'm healed I don't care what my back says I don't care what you, my mind wants to tell me or the pain saying. I believe I received, and I would always say that, next morning. I mean, clearly I woke up in no pain, but I only realized it at noon the following day because it was gone.

So I will tell you that it works. Try it. You might like it. But don't let other people speak death over you. Don't let them speak no faith over you don't let them speak uh no faith over you reject it and i'll be honest with you tom and i when people want to speak negativity and we advise people when they're believing for something if somebody wants to speak doubt and unbelief over you tell them don't i don't want to hear it that's not a conversation that we're

going to have that is opposite of what I'm believing for. Just shut it down. That what happens is if you listen to what they say, seeds are planted. And then you have to uproot all that doubt and unbelief that they're planting. And that's not cool. Agreed? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

I mean, you've seen huge things happen in your family and with friends. Yeah. Yeah. And the reason why is because you were very careful about who's spoken to their lives or who's spoken to your life correct yeah very careful who even tell like not even opening my mouth about it yeah or pray about it yeah because you don't want god's will people praying over your situation it says the lord's prayer says it's his will to heal every time because it's as in heaven heaven has no sickness disease or anything or impoverished right so for me it's like god's will is every single time but that god's will

statement is the doubt and unbelief that they that exist in that that that person's heart absolutely so and aaron's shaking his head jess in full agreement. He agrees too. Next question. I hope that answered. That was pretty, that's self-explanatory, right? That was great. Yeah, like the Kenneth Hagin thing explains like don't listen to people. Like, right? Okay.

That's what came to mind when I read that. I'm like, people thought he was in complete denial. Yeah. But he wasn't in denial. He knew what God's word said. Kenneth Copeland, right? No, Kenneth Hagin was the one about Ball's palsy. but i love kenneth copeland's uh statement yeah because it's true me too yep next question is there is a fine line between submitting and supporting a spouse and enabling

behavior can you define the two biblically okay i'm going to be honest with you i wish you would have given me the example or an example of what you're referring to about submitting and enabling because that would really have helped me to answer this question. But if you go to our church, which I don't know if you do or not, but if you go to our church, then that might expose you. So I understand why, because we might know you. And so then you're going to be like, well, then you'll know who I am. So, and this is supposed to be private.

So let's look at scripture. And this scripture we're going to talk about is a husband and wife relationship along with how marriage coincides with the church and Jesus, right? Because we are the bride of Christ. But it's the best scripture because it explains how husband and wife are to be set up. The church replicates a marriage with a husband and wife. It says in Ephesians 5, 22 through 23, it says, Wives, submit to your own

husbands as to the Lord for the husband is head of the wife as also Christ is head of the church and he is the savior of the body therefore just as the church is subject to Christ so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything now this next verse is super important. It says, There you go. That's the washing of the water by the word that he might present her to himself a glorious church not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing but that she should be holy and without blemish that is a high standard for a husband to live by women if your husband is living to that

standard then it should be no issue with you submitting now do all husbands live to that standard no they sure don't but still submitting you have. Now, do all husbands live to that standard? No, they sure don't. But still submitting, you have a job to do. So even if they don't meet that standard, you still have to do your part. So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies. This is super important. He who loves his wife loves himself,

for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it just as the lord does the church for you members of his body of his flesh and of his bones for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh you notice it didn't say the wife the wife has to leave her mother and father it says the so there's something about a son leaving his parents i know aaron didn't have that problem he's a pretty independent guy but i've known other men it's very difficult for them very difficult for them this is a great mystery but i but i speak

concerning christ in the church nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself and let the wife see that she respects her husband. Okay, now we're going to, I'm going to hit two things right now because it needs to be understood. I'm going to talk about the church, the husband and wife relationship between the church and Jesus and how a shepherd, how the pastor is like the shepherd and that relationship with the church does that make sense because I think it's super important that people understand what that looks like so that a husband and a wife it's like the shepherd and the congregation and then a husband and a wife it they're very similar yeah very similar

and when you don't and I you know I I think it's it's so funny to me because when wives live with a husband they don't respect and they live in anger towards him when they come into a church that's why I think we have a lot of wussy pastors right now because men are such like they're weak especially a lot of these pastors today pastors are so weak they have they're beat down by their wives it's true they are women are you know co-pastoring i've seen it excellent very few times most of the time when a husband and a wife are co-pastoring the wife's actually running the show i believe it she's running the show and she's got a voice to be heard and she's dadgummit gonna be made sure that that happens so most of the time we're seeing men that are pastors that are super weak. You find a pastor who's like Tom, that's super strong,

and women don't want to submit, and women don't respect their husband, like the Bible says you're supposed to do, and women are irritated with their husband, that they usually are very offended and bothered by Tom. But it stems from their relationship with their husband that they usually are very offended and bothered by tom but it stems from their relationship with their husband whether they want to believe it or not whether they're whether they want to be honest about it or not almost always those women have a huge submission problem and its submission problem stems from them feeling like they should be in control when it's not biblical so they're out of order in their marriage, biblically speaking.

Or their husband hasn't stepped up to the plate and been a good priest of the home. So they have no respect for him. So now they're mad at men or mad at a strong man. So almost I haven't met one woman yet. Would you guys disagree with me yet? I mean, would you disagree with me? Like I've been in church and almost every woman that I've ever spoken to that has been irritated with Tom, which doesn't happen very much,

but I'm just saying, almost always they've left and been mad, but they wear the pants in the house. They wear the pants, and they're out of order. They can't see it, though. And they would give you every excuse why they have to wear the pants, because their husband doesn't see it, though. And they would give you every excuse why they have to wear the pants because their husband doesn't do it. Right. Okay.

Well, you're under somebody who does do it right, and you can't handle that. Right. It's a reflection. Yeah. It's just, but they go together. So here's verses 25 through 27 is almost non-existent in the church. Let's go back to it. 25 through 27 says, husbands, love your wives just as Christ also loved the church

and gave himself for her, that he might sanctify and cleanse her for the washing of the watering of the word, and he might present her to himself as a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. Do we see that in the church today? No, we don't. Because the Bible's not preached.

Holiness is not taught it's jesus church by bribe bride right husband is like jesus the wife is like the church my son just walked in hey tommy i love you husband and wife marriage should look exactly like the church and it doesn't because most pastors are weak they're wussies you know they they they cannot stand up to anybody in the congregation and when they do it's the wrong ones right because they definitely would never stand up to the person that gives the most in the church god forbid they lose that tithe and offering it's true you know never in a million years but they'll get really mad at somebody and they'll take it out on the person that's the lowest risk to them.

It's just so funny to me. No you know what's. Say it. No danglies. Okay. There you go. No dingle dangles we saw a lot of those in tennessee what oh listen have you did you eat at bojangles

i wasn't a fan she only wanted um hattie bees oh hattie bees is so Hattie Bees. Oh, Hattie Bees is so good in Nashville. But Bojangles, so good. I was willing. Oh, I love Bojangles. Let's see. Now you got me all off. Okay, so let's look at, I'm going to look at, because we go to this church, so we'll look at, and Tom is a strong pastor, but he's also a strong priest of the home.

And he's super easy to live with. People get bothered that he teases me, or they think that sometimes people have thought that Tom was being mean to me while he was preaching. And I'm laughing the whole entire time. Like if he knows my personality so well, he knows that nothing really offends me nothing really bothers me actually I I like laughing at me you know I think it's pretty dang funny uh but people have literally been upset with him and thought he was mean to me

which he's not people just so you know I'm having as much fun as he is while he's up there I'm laughing I think it's great you, it doesn't bother me a bit. He's the easiest. Listen, he has set the standard. We know what lines to cross, what not. And there's a lot of lines you can cross. He's pretty low maintenance. But when it comes to biblical principles, you're not crossing those lines.

Sin is not allowed in our home. And he's pretty easy going on pretty much everything but when it comes to sin you're not doing it there's no gossip in our home there i mean like when things go on in this church i don't even know about him because he's not going to tell me about a lot of them like it just doesn't happen so when there's lines that are not crossed because of sin or because of major compromise we don't do that in our house but pretty much everything else is is easy um and he's pretty much easy to live with but he's also at this church uh both of you work for tom would you say he's difficult to work with or would you say he's easy and you guys can be

flat-out honest if you want it doesn't bother me a bit for you to say what you want to say. Go ahead. Tracy, you're first. You haven't worked for him as long. Yeah. No, I love working for him because I know exactly where I stand with him. I know if he likes something, he's going to say it. If he doesn't, he's going to let me know.

But is he mean about things? No. No, he's not. He's pretty straightforward, right? Yeah, he's very straightforward. I appreciate that. Yeah. But he's easy going. But super easy going. Yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah. But he's easy going.

But super easy going. Yeah. And very funny. Yeah. Super funny. Even like, listen, we were in a staff meeting a couple weeks ago, and I kind of stepped out of order. He didn't embarrass me.

But afterwards, people were still in the room, and he gave me correction. But even when he gave me correction, it wasn't mean and nasty and degrading or anything. And then in front of everybody in the following staff meeting, he basically said, this is what happened. This isn't going to happen again. And he was very,

I thought he was very respectful even of me, even though I stepped out of order. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. I mean, transparency people, we have staff meetings and whatever.

So like, even in that, he's a very strong leader, he's not disrespectful i don't think but but go ahead aaron what were you going to say because you worked with him since you were 19 to now he's he's super easy to work with the least micromanaging managing human being i've ever worked with oh yeah he's super much if he put you in charge he trusts you correct and that's the thing is like i think that other other that other CEOs and bosses and whatever they happen to be or pastors like should take notes of that.

Because like if you trust somebody enough to put them in that position, you should trust them enough to actually do their job in that position. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah. I am not a micromanager, but I am making sure every I is dotted, every T is crossed. I'm way more than he is. But I'm not a micromanager. I don't think because I hate being micromanager but i am making sure every i is dotted every t is crossed i'm way more than he is but i'm not a micromanager i don't think because i hate being micromanaged but but there's something to be said for all of that you're you're just making sure because you are very specific

just as he is that the specifics are taken care of but you're not micromanaging there's a difference yeah i agree yeah i agree too plus he's put me in charge of that. So I have to, I'll answer to him. I don't want to answer to him for that. So let me just say this. There have been times in the past that people have thought, like a good pastor, he loves his congregation. He brings conviction to his congregation. He corrects and he protects.

That is what a husband is supposed to do for his wife. And a pastor that loves the body of Christ will do the same thing because that's his job. He's the tangible Jesus. All right. So he is not that he's Jesus, but he is to be the shepherd of the flock. He's to protect the flock. A shepherd has multiple jobs. And so there have been people at times that are like, he's preaching. And he'll be standing at the door and he'll be like, he'll have said something. They like I don't do that and he's like well then it's not for you they were not necessarily offended but they were bothered that he was preaching on a specific subject or he called

out something and then they were like that wasn't me or that's not me. And he's like, well, there's about 800 other people in the building. And it's not going to be for everybody. If you've got that one particular thing nailed down, then ignore what I'm saying. Don't be offended or bothered. But it is for someone else in that room. It's just like worshiping. Sometimes he critiques the worship. And Tracy told a great story about this, if you want to tell it.

But he critiques the worship sometimes because there will be multitudes that are worshiping. But there will be a bigger multitude that is not. And so he is trying to press people in and to having a deeper relationship with the Lord. And that's done through worship. But Tracy told me this story. I think it's so funny. Not funny, funny, but I think it's very apropos for right for this topic. Yeah. So go ahead. Was it when I first started coming? Yeah. Yeah. I was worshiping more like solemnly and just like kind of had my hands like down and it was just worshiping because you came from a woke church. Oh yeah.

Yeah. And I wasn't against raising my hands, but I also wasn't like, I don't know if I was super comfortable with it, but I was pushing myself outside of it. And then I knew I was supposed to, but I didn't. And then he got up and totally was like, you guys did not look like you were here to worship God today. He's worthy. And that's just like something that always rings in my head is like, he's worthy. He's worthy.

Even if you show up and you're having an off day, like God's worthy. Amen. No matter what. Bring it. So, and it didn't, I didn't get offended. I was like, I already knew, like I already knew. And then ever since then, it's never looked like that. Yeah.

But here's the thing. There were other people in that room that that were actually worshiping him in spirit and truth they were actually doing with none of them were offended or bothered nope you actually took the correction with conviction and said what part do i play in this how do i change but i guarantee you i guarantee you there are other people that are like uh why is he talking to me like that that shouldn't be me i'm not doing that right he has no right right right right but it's like no he does have a right because he is the tangible jesus he's the shepherd he needs to prod people

to have that deeper walk if if he hadn't said that you would maybe stayed with worshiping like this and half-hearted yeah but he spurred you on right that's the difference a loving pastor a loving husband propels you to greater things right and to be better than what you are right you know it's all in how you receive it are you willing to be to receive it are you so prideful that uh you're offended that your husband brings correction to you and I'm not saying that this is what's happening here I'm just saying that Tom comes to me sometimes and he's like I see this now do with it what you want and then a

lot of times I'm like well that's Holy Spirit right that makes me be better or I'll see him doing something and I'm like, oh, he, I'm not being left behind. He's going somewhere. I'm going with him. Like that's what a good priest of the home does. Do they get it right every time? No. Do they fail?

Yeah. But are they getting it right more than they're failing? 100%. And that's what matters. So a husband is the priest of the home, just like a shepherd is the pastor. Both of them coincide. I can tell you right now, Tom would die for this congregation, just like Jesus would die for the bride. Does your husband, is he willing to give his life up for you?

That's super important um but i would say to you is do you you respond to him if he is not the priest of the home do you still submit or do you say i'm not submitting until you act like the priest of the home because he's responsible and he'll answer to God for the part that he plays or doesn't play, but you will too. And how you perform under the biblical standard that God has provided for wives, you will also be judged and you will also be held accountable for. So I would tell you, whether or not he's meeting and rising to the standard that he needs to, you still, you go, because God will bless your socks off

for being obedient. I will tell you this, though, if he is wanting you to do things that are not biblical, do not submit to them. There's a line that is drawn. If a husband asks a wife to do things that are not biblical then you don't do it so if he says i'm not going to church i want you to stay home you say no i'm not i'm not doing that that's not biblical do not forsake the

assembling of yourself together you still go you still go it says if he wants to stay home that's on him you don't submit to that You don't submit to things that are not biblical, okay? Now here's the thing. Enabling and submitting are two different things. You do not enable bad behavior. You do not endorse things that, even if it's not biblical and I try and think of something enabling so I see that's where I wish I knew what you were talking about as far as submitting and bad behavior because or enabling because I don't know what what is wanting to be enabled you're you might

be saying I enable him um I can't think of anything like what about like complaining like if they're but complaining's not really not being a good priest of the home I mean people complain but like I'm trying to think of not things that are that might be biblical but enabling like people could still drink one drink and not and not go and not be drunk but is it the wisest is it says that this will go for husbands a husband that does not provide for his own is worse than an infidel so if a husband is not providing for his family an infidel is a sinner right so a wife you can't enable like if he can't keep a job because i have known this so many times got these these wives are supporting their homes and the husband doesn't do a daggum thing or if

he does he gets fired all the time he can't keep a job he either quits it or he's fired right for whatever reason so you can't enable that bad behavior because if he came home and he got fired or he quit another job and he hasn't a good excuse every single time this happens you don't enable that and say oh honey I know they just lost the best thing I don't know why this keeps happening you're a great guy you know you don't enable like that he's his job is to provide for the for the family that's his job it says in the word very clearly that's his job so but I can't think of another one that you might be enabling but I have definitions so biblical submission submission means to voluntarily take a position where you put your trust in someone else and heed the relationship. Submission is not

slavery, coercion, manipulation, intimidation, misguidance, or suppression. So if that's what's being asked of you to do, that's not submitting and you don't need to do that. A faithful husband willingly lays down his life for his wife. He is not a tyrant. This is what Paul said. Paul said this, and I'm paraphrasing a faithful husband willingly lays down his life for his wife he is not a tyrant who forces her to submit to his sinful human desires but but abandons his own will affections and needs for her sake that is what a priest of a home looks like and then a wife submits to that authority and respects him okay you may not like it I was just telling Tommy one time uh Tom basically said this is the church

we're going to attend and I was like I don't want to go to that church I don't and this is before we ever had our church and I was like I don't want to go to that church and I gave him the reasons why and he's like I feel like we should go to this church this is where our family's going to go I didn't get nasty I didn't get mean I didn't give him the what for even though I did not agree with it at the end of the day the buck stops there that's where he felt like we were supposed to go so I shut my mouth I went to that church and I got involved in it heavily involved in it. Heavily involved in it. Just so happens several years later, and this is the kind of man Tom is.

I think we attended that church for four or five years. And when it was all said and done, Tom came to me and he said, I should have listened to you. You were right. I was wrong. That's what a good husband does. That's what a good priest of the home does. But I submitted and I kept my mouth shut and I didn't say to him ever why we attended there.

This is why I didn't want to come here. This is why I didn't want to come here. Do you see that? This is why I don't want to come here. I never did that. That's where God honors you. Shut your mouth. Follow your husband.

Nothing horrible happened to us while we went there and as soon as things that started going a little shady did we were out because that's the kind of man he is and I can trust him with that but have there been times in our marriage that I had to shut my mouth and submit yeah there is that's my job I submit to his authority I respect him I love him not everything that he does have I always said I thought was the best decision but he has to do with and he's been right a lot of times where when I didn't necessarily agree with it or I thought yeah I don't know he's been right you're not gonna agree with everybody all the time we're not the same people and I'll be honest with you I don't agree. He's been right. You're not going to agree with everybody all the time. We're not the same people.

And I'll be honest with you. I don't agree with myself all the time either. I hate myself sometimes. Okay, you're not going to. Just the way life is. But enabling is when you directly or indirectly support someone's unhealthy behavior or harmful tendencies. You do not enable bad behavior period especially if you have children so I don't even know if this person has kids

but if you have children they will see that and you will send them right into the hands of someone if it's a girl into the hands of someone like that or to somebody's completely opposite but not might might but might not be a godly man because they want nothing to do with god because they see the representation of your husband so does that make sense that was really good good examples too really yeah because it was kind of confusing to me at times but i was no i think you did a you did a good job. Okay. I'm not trying to get praise or anything, but at the same time, if I need to correct something, I'm hoping that you'll understand what I'm saying, because seriously, I have no idea what vein of submission enabling you're talking about. So for me, being so broad, using a broad scope of things is very difficult. But hopefully that helped you.

If not, write in again and maybe I'll. There you go. I don't know. Send another question. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. Now I've gone way past. We've probably lost everybody because they can't stay on for an hour.

Nope, we're good. People, God bless you for staying on. I love you for it. But we're to the most important thing ever, which is do you know jesus have you known him or have you never known him and today's your day if you want it to be i invite you let's we're going to do this fast because i've kept people on super long we are now past almost five minutes correct yep oh six minutes and 40 something seconds so we're going to do this fast listen if you need jesus i'm just the girl for you let's say this prayer together get you saved then let us know if you got saved and we're going to stand alongside with you

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