The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E38 | 05-26-23

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E38 | 05-26-23

Real Talk. Real Talk. Hello everybody. I am, I'm a little crazy today. I'm going to be honest with you. Happy Friday. I'm, I'm officially ready for Memorial Day. I was showing the girls my shoes. Wait a minute. You guys see this side? Yeah. Wait a minute. That's not good.

There you go. So. Okay. My legs hurt. That's my shoe. How cute is that? They are the cutest. I'm ready.

So cute. I'm ready for Memorial Day. I'm ready for Fourth of July. I'm ready. So cute. I'm ready for Memorial Day. I'm ready for Fourth of July. I'm going to take some, I was about to say I'm going to kick butt and take some names, but I guess I won't say that because it's not the best thing to say, but I am going to kick butt and take some names. I'm ready. Everybody should celebrate that day.

I mean, you don't have to have a picnic or anything, but you definitely should recognize it. Super important day to take tribute and take some time out. At 3 p.m., I think it's 3 p.m., all around the world, well, I would say all around the world, for Americans that served in our military, there is a time of silence that is experienced throughout the country. So at 3 p.m., if you think about it for one minute, be quiet. Let's pay tribute to the men and women who have served this country, gave their lives. And sometimes, some people didn't give their lives, but they actually gave up life, they gave up life limbs, whatever. So we need to take some time out, appreciate them. Some of them still struggle from dealing with war, having to overcome some issues with that mentally.

So that day is super special, and we should make sure that we thank the men and women who serve our country every single time we see them, whether it be in the store, in a restaurant. I would buy a serviceman or woman, they wear the hats, so it's super easy to know who they are. But oftentimes when my kids were growing up from small, small kids, I trained them to go up to those men and women who were wearing the hats. And I told them, I taught them to say thank you. They need to be respected and revered for what they did.

And we should never, ever, ever forget. See, that's what's happening with this country. Not that I'm going to talk a political talk. My shoe's falling off. But we should, when we forget about history, we forget where we came from. And then we repeat history. And we repeat the bad things because we don't remember them. That's why we really have been blessed to not really have much conflict in wartime and things like that. So a lot of, and we don't teach it in school. We don't teach history.

We don't teach the sacrifices that men and women made for each and every single one of us. And so we take for granted the freedom that we get on a daily basis. But if you take time to stop and thank someone that served, then it kind of is a good reminder of why you have the life that you have. And then it shows appreciation, respect, and honor to the ones that gave it to you. So if you see someone, always say thank you. Super important.

My kids still do it to this day um 24 and 22 if they see someone and it's a it the timing is apropos because sometimes it's not the greatest timing but hey buy somebody lunch or dinner that serves this country they deserve it um let me see i was uh i was gonna say something about something what were you were you gonna say something to me tracy because you leaned forward like you were about to say something no but I can do you like your new background oh gosh yeah way better which one my background in comparison to Tom's yeah I see I think Tom's was a 10 yeah I Aaron like literally hit a home run on Tom's. For anybody who watches both podcasts, Aaron, he should be a decorator.

He's very in touch with this feminine side. He knew exactly what Pastor Tom would love. He did very, very good. Yeah. But you did an excellent job. And listen, we got all this stuff free. Logan emptied out her house. Yes, she did. Logan emptied out her house yes she did logan emptied out her house brought it all here to the church and now i'm like there's stuff over here on the side that

you can't even see because they were putting things up taking them down putting things up taking them down and literally it hurts my arms to raise them i I'm on like I'm on a two week regimen of working out. I have no muscle people. There's no muscle. So it's not muscle that's hurting. It's fat that's hurting that's having to be turned into muscle at a very slow pace. Like and Tracy's doing it too. Tracy are you very sore? Yes. Are you sore from this morning? Yes. Oh God. Yes. I literally wanted to punch that woman right in the face this morning. If she told me to drop and give her 20 one more time. It wasn't drop and give her 20. I don't know what that thing was is we had to jump on the ground. You jump up, you jump down on the ground,

then you kick your legs out and then you pop yourself back up Tracy's killing it in that one that's called a burpee no no that wasn't a burpee babe that was something else that she did that the besides the burpee I know the burpee the ball one okay that you threw the ball up and she's and Tracy's throwing a 15-pound ball up I did 12 but 15 was killer she throw the ball up not that you guys care about this, but I'm going to tell you anyway. Throw the ball up. Go down with it. Then have to throw her body down.

We all had to do this. I did not. Listen, I tried. You did. I couldn't get back up. You did. Help, I've fallen and I can't get back up. Literally.

I really did try and do that one once. You did. You did. Once. You did. And then I said, I'm going to do squats. That's smart. I can't do that one. Maybe someday when I get arm muscles, but I tell you this. I'm afraid that every time I do jumping jacks, literally, I'm going to go flying across the room from the wings my arms are so flabby i'm like i'm about to take flight girls i'm about to go be out of here peter pan here i come tinkerbell i'm peter pan i'm not tinkerbell that's for dang sure oh my gosh all right people let's go first question I am really sore though okay but we're gonna walk work through it I am wondering how I can use common everyday situations like and they gave an example of painting with other people to talk about God to spread the good news of the gospel.

So I'm not quite sure if you are painting homes. Like we have lots of people who, not lots, but we have several business owners in our church that have our painting contractors. They own their own businesses. Very successful. If anyone ever needs a good painter, we have several in the church, and we can refer them to you. And you live in the area. And I say this because I always, always promote Christians

because the Bible is very clear that we are to prefer one another above everyone else. And we're to treat each other special and so for me i if i can i always want a christian doing my jobs and doing my work because i want to bless them and uh bless their business and and and i also want to honor what the word says so um so i don't know if you own your own business. And so what you're doing is you're working, you're, you're working with people on clean, on painting their homes, or maybe you take an art class or something like that. I don't know, but it, either way it would be the same. And I know that was just an example, but if that's something you do, then I want to apply it. So,

um, I will tell you when I worked, um, when I worked at my last job, it was in sales. And what I would do with people is every time the door opened, and I did, I prayed that, I prayed, and I still do, I pray that the Lord will give me the opportunity to share my faith. And with people that come across my path. So for that job, that particular job, I would go into people's homes, and I would talk to them about, I don't know, whatever I was selling, right? Well, sometimes they would have certain things out in their home that gave you an idea that they were a Christian. And so if they did, then I would take that opportunity to share

my faith. And then there are a lot of times that you walk into somebody's homes and there's absolutely nothing. And now you know, okay, Lord, this might be an opportunity for me. So you just pray during that time, like, Lord, if they're open, help me to be able to, you know, invite them to church or plant a seed or whatever the case may be. And we have a family that comes to the church because actually while I was in training at this job, I went into these people's home. And it just so happened that I didn't know they were Christians until I walked out on their back line. And I saw the wife's Bible. She obviously did Bible study. And these are the things that God opens the doors for you and you just don't even know that it's going to happen.

So in the process, I saw what she was studying in and I talked to her about something that, you know, was relative to that, which they just so happened were going to a woke church. And they were wanting to find a church that never closed. They were they are big on the COVID, understanding what COVID was about, knew it was a lie. But they couldn't find they lived. They live about 30 to 45 minutes away but driving doesn't matter to them because they were like if we could find a good church wouldn't matter and i began to i didn't even tell them that you know my that tom pastor the church or anything like that i just invited him i said well my church never closed you you might want

to try it out it is political um He has no problem in talking about politics, which usually turns people off. But for them, they were like, no, that's what we're looking for. Now they've been coming, I think, two to three years now. They've been, no, probably two years they've been coming to the church. They love it.

It's exactly what they were looking for. So you can, and it's actually helped them, I think, growth-wise, because now you're around other believers. They're heavily involved. They volunteer in this church. They come to all the Bible studies that I know of, like a lot of, like the women's stuff they come to, the men's stuff they come to.

So I don't know if they go to all the Bible studies, so I'll rephrase that. But they do, they're heavily involved in all the different ministries that do take place here and are willing to help out with everything. They're great people. They're a great addition to this church. So you might find out that you can share your faith and then invite somebody to church that's actually looking for something like our church. But then there are people who aren't saved.

And I do run across people that aren't saved. And that's when I, you know, I read the situation and I give them what they want. Sometimes it's basically, if you're painting for somebody's, if you're taking a class, you're going to see that person every week. So that gives you way more time to share your faith. And then more doors are open. And you just pray every week, Lord, next time I see that person every week. So that gives you way more time to share your faith. And then more doors are open. And you just pray every week, Lord, next time I see this person, let their heart be softened a little bit more.

Let me be able to say a little bit more to them. Let me share my faith a little bit more with them. If it's a job, well, I used to have jobs where I only talked to people one time. But I was able to share my faith, even able to pray with them. I know people who, one of my favorite people that attends this church, he used to go, well, he's in management now, but when he would drive around, he was a salesman for a exterminating company, and he constantly was praying for people when he would go out to these different homes and these different appointments because he would just talk to them

and the Lord just opened the door. He found favor. I say this, if you just pray, Lord, every day, and Tom talks about this pretty much every Sunday. Lord, every day in the morning, Lord, open up the door so that I can share my faith. I promise you, if it's even in the Walmart, you'll have the opportunity. It's being that willing vessel. And it could just be something so small that you say, like, or even just a smile. And people, maybe somebody comments and says, man, you don't see people smile anymore, and you can say, well, I can tell you why I smile. And then you step right into that.

It's seeing the opportunity and walking through it. But a lot of times people are so nervous, and it doesn't sound like you're nervous because it looks like you're trying to figure it out and find out how you can do it. But a lot of people are so nervous because they're introverts, not extroverts, and they think that plays a huge part in it. It doesn't. The Bible doesn't say for us to share our faith if we're an extrovert. It tells us to share our faith regardless. And if you're an introvert, God knows. He knows how you operate. He knows. He'll help you become bold, but it also puts you in situations that are a little bit more comfortable for you than someone like me. I know no stranger. Like for me, talking about anything and everything, it's irrelevant for me. And if somebody says to me, go pound sand, I'm like, all right,

where's the sand? I don't care. You know, it doesn't matter to me. God's very good about all that. He knows our personalities, knows what we can take. Will we face rejection? Yeah, so did he. You know, it's like, suck it up, buttercup. Just get over it. It's not that big of a deal. But be out there. Be about his business. And so just look for those opportunities. Be a willing vessel. And pray every day that he gives you the opportunity to share your faith. And then just if you're a person that's nervous, a little bit nervous, say, Lord, when you do, like, help me to be more bold. But I will tell you this. Boldness comes through tongues.

Having your prayer language. If you don't have your prayer language, it might be a little bit more tough for you. But when you get your prayer language, there's something about it. It changes everything. It changes everything. I cannot express to you why. I don't know how that comes about. But the Holy Spirit, he just kicks you up another level. And again, he does all your praying for you. So strongly encourage you if that's you, then, um, and you don't have your prayer language, seek it out. You need it badly, badly. Now, can I ask one of you guys, like, um, now that the air condition's blowing really

cold in here, my legs are freezing. Can you just hit this fan for me? I'm cold. Sorry about that people, but I'm going to shiver. Start going like this in a minute because I'm a little chilled. My toes are cold. So, all right, next question is, is it okay to be cremated versus being buried? I was recently listening to Jonathan Shuttlesworth and he said that we should have a good Christian burial and not be cremated. I have never understood the controversy around this. So I did talk about this. I think it was

podcast 18. You can go back and watch it but you don't need to do that because basically what I'm going to do Tracy is take my answers and I'm going to apply it to this one. Because it's been long enough, we're on like 30 what? 38. It's been a long time since we discussed this. So I'll address it again. Super simple. Listen, there are things. Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

If it says if you do this, you'll not inherit the kingdom of heaven, then don't do that. Cremation is not one of them, okay? If it says you can do something, then do it. that. Cremation is not one of them. Okay. If it says you can do something, then do it. This is one that doesn't say yes or no to. So we can't like sweat the small stuff. We can't be worried about, and listen, unless Jonathan has, and I'll listen, I love the man. I've been with him this whole entire week when me and Tom have been up there. Like, I love him.

He's just one of my favorite people. Okay? I love his family. They're some of my favorite people. But unless he has scripture to back that up and you feel differently about it, then that's his opinion. He's giving guidance to people. He's preaching what he believes but but if you were to ask him he'd probably sit there and tell you well if you want to be cremated it's

not what I would do but do it unless he has scripture to back it up a lot of people don't believe in cremation or they don't like cremation because it's your body is being put into fire. Okay. And that's correlates with hell. Okay. But I will tell you this, like your soul's already in heaven. So all you're doing is taking your body back to the dust that it was, that it will eventually turn into when it goes into the grave. But my opinion is everybody can do whatever they want. It's up to them. It's not heaven and hell. And I can't find one thing in the Bible that says you can't

be cremated. Not one thing. Genesis 3.19 says, in the sweat of your face, you shall eat bread, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are, and to dust you shall return. So when you get buried, your body goes through an oxidation process that over time turns your body into dust. It turns it back into what it originally was. That's scriptural. I just said it to you in Genesis. Now when you do cremation, cremation does what burial does in minutes that takes forever over time with being buried. Now I do know like my dad, he didn't want to be embalmed. So his process of turning into dust was much quicker. if you're embalmed that's a very long process and embalming if I remember right is just removing the blood out of the body correct isn't embalming when you take the body they're going to look that up for me but

it helps with the skin color when you've passed away for when you do your wake and things like that because it creates no bruising right so embalming is when they take the blood out of it i but there's something about embalming as well that i think makes the process of of deterioration in the body go slower and i don don't know how that works. But so my dad, when he, he chose burial, my dad was like, yeah, you ain't cremating me. He was just like, Jonathan, ain't no way. Now my mom, she's like, I don't care. Put me in the fire. Just put me on top of your dad. Like, I don't care. Like when I, when they pass away, they're going to be both buried in the same grave site. She'll be in an urn.

He's in a box. But again, it goes down to it's just everybody's different opinion, and there are different viewpoints on it and what they care and don't care. What did you find? It's a two-step process, and it is the embalming process is surgical in which bodily fluids are removed and replaced with formaldehyde-based chemical solutions. Right. And the second step is the cosmetic, applying the makeup and everything. Oh, really?

That's what they say. Okay. When you said there's a two-step process, I was like, there's something else other than that. No, it's just the makeup. Okay. That's what they, yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't I mean for me uh if I if I I don't know which way I'm gonna go myself the only thing I don't like which listen I have worked for a funeral home before Heather oh I have like list Heather

always teases me she's like what job have you not done no I did I worked for a funeral home I think I only worked there for like three or three to not done? No, I did. I worked for a funeral home. I think I only worked there for like three to five months, something like that. I did sales. But I was there for, I learned the whole process. Cremation, was there for a cremation, the whole thing. Watched the body go in. It's hot.

It's a big, big, huge furnace. It's hot. Went into the morgue where they have the bodies and stuff like that. Listen, they treat the, depending on the funeral home, I will tell you that they're treated very respectfully. That business is such a delicate, sensitive issue, and people can be taken advantage of. I'm a big proponent of making your plans early.

Not now, but I'm a big proponent of, me and Tom will live for a really long time, so I don't have any problem. I don't need to do this anytime soon. But people who don't believe like this, it's cost effective. And depending on the funeral home you go in you're so distraught and upset a lot of times most people don't expect it even if it's a cancer patient or cancer somebody with cancer you think you're prepared but you're really not so now the person's deceased and you feel so sad about the loss that you spend so much money just to honor them and to love them. And they would be like, why are you spending this kind of money on me? This is insane.

So it's much better to do all your preparations ahead of time or don't be a sucker. Because listen, a lot of them, they'll do what you want. And then some of them will upsell you. So you got to be careful about that. But they always are very good and very sensitive and very kind to the people who are deceased. As far as how they honor and take care of the bodies. But yeah, I did work for a funeral home. I've watched the whole process, but I don't, what I don't like about it is we live in Florida. I hope this doesn't bother anybody what I'm about to tell you, but there's nothing that

seals completely. And you dig a certain layer of ground and like it hits water i don't like that i don't like that at all i i almost don't care that you know it goes through the normal process of decay but i don't want to be in water so fire sounds a lot better than water. I'd rather be in fire than water. You would. Yeah, I would be. Water does not sound appealing at all. Okay.

So on that note. Moving right along. Yeah, moving right along. What did you say, Logan? Those were my favorite calls. The bodies? Why was that? Because you were sensitive to them them now you have to talk loud

because nobody can hear you because the other day I was listening and we couldn't hear a lick out of you girl that's what the body does after it's passed it's fascinating oh yeah I know you know what the thing is is I loved it I I didn't love it for Tom but but I will tell you this. When he was in law enforcement, the calls that when somebody had passed away and he would go in there, and it was so – a lot of times, because we live in God's waiting room, a lot of times that would be Florida. We live in God's waiting room, and our area around here is retired area you know so a highly retired area so a lot of times he called be called in and it would be a wife who unexpectedly lost her husband by a heart attack or whatever and it was an opportunity for him because he would sit with

them he would talk to them he would be so kind and um it's such a great opportunity to share Jesus's love without even having without even saying a word where you're just compassionate and kind and you treat the person not as if they're another person that you've seen and dealt with that's had a loss but you treat them as a human being that experienced a life-changing evolving experience. Like, life will never be the same for them after they've lost that husband. And a lot of these women have been married to these people. I mean, a wife has been married to that guy for probably 50 plus years. Some of them, it's 40 plus years or whatever. I just remember my mom's, when she lost my dad, she's like, I go to, she would go to buy bananas. And she's like, she don't like bananas lost my dad. She's like, I go to, she would go to buy bananas.

And she's like, she don't like bananas. You know, she's like, I'll never buy bananas again at the grocery store. So it's like, those are the little things that people don't think about. But when you go and you have to meet with somebody who has lost someone and you get to be that, you get to be there for them and maybe help them through that process until a loved one gets there what an opportunity what an opportunity you really can shine in that time so um but i will going back to this i will say um either way if you get cremated or if you get buried, your body's going back to dust. It is.

So one's faster than the other. It's really irrelevant to me. And again, it's work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. There's nothing in the Bible. I've looked. I mean, unless somebody in this room can tell me that they've seen something otherwise, I can't find it. I don't see anything.

I see why he says that it'd be better to be buried. But that doesn't mean, again, that's his opinion. That doesn't mean that's the way to go. So whoever wrote this, do whatever you want. It's really going to be okay. You're not going to be there anyway. You be you. Yep.

Oh, my God. God bless. Okay. I don't even know what to do with it. It was appropriate. It was appropriate. That's what you wanted to say. No, that's not what I wanted to say.

That's what she was thinking. I was not thinking that at all. I'm telling you after Pittsburgh and her with that I was going to take my little

fingers and wrap them around that neck. Like oh my gosh if I hear that one more time. I come back. There's so many times I want to say it. On my birthday?

In my birthday Instagram? My birthday was just a couple weeks a couple days ago. What did she put? You be you. So whoever wrote this, Shetty, do whatever you want. You're going to be fine.

Your body's in heaven. It's not going to even know. She wants to say it so bad. I just looked at her. I literally have to put them on camera it's a sight it's a sight i'm gonna just say it maybe i don't want to put you on camera they'd have to put makeup on too don't do it. They both look cute. Logan does have. Logan doesn't have. Do you have makeup on right now, Tracy?

Yeah, I can. You don't look like it, but you look great. Like you're tan, so you don't need it. You do have makeup on though, right? You look cute as can be. Your hair's all done. Tracy looks like she just got out of the gym, which she did. Literally.

No. No, she has jeans on, but she did just come out of the gym. Okay, so next question. If you could only have three things on your life bucket list, what would they be? I'm going to tell you this. Out of every single question that I think I asked today, took more brain power than all of them combined. I've never thought of a bucket list before in my life.

So I'm like, I really am not a bucket list person. I don't really think I care about doing too many things. I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I don't care. Because you've done them all. No, I haven't done them all. Oh, you mean job-wise? Job-wise, I have done a lot of jobs. I've done them all. No, I haven't done them all. Oh, you mean job-wise? Job-wise.

I have done a lot of jobs. I've done a lot of weird things. So that kind of like, I mean. No, that's not why. All right. I'm empty inside. I don't know why. I don't care.

Yeah. I just don't really care. Like skydiving, like just not to plan. No. And it's not a fear. It's just you don't want to. I could give a rip i just don't care i mean i'd rather hang out with my friends and i do that all the time like i

hang out with my friends uh my life can since consist of church and that's very full and i actually this is what i've always wanted to do for I don't even know how many years like probably 20 years just where I totally did church um completely so I am so content I am like the happiest I think I've ever been in my whole entire life ever. I know. I love it. I mean, like it's, it's such a great place to be. Not that I wasn't happy before. I've learned to be content in all things, but then when God just gives you your heart's desire 100% completely, you just are like, it's as good, if not better than I thought it would be. It's as good as I thought it would be. It is not less. It's just phenomenal.

But I will tell you, if I had my way, if there's one thing that I could do, this is the only thing that I can say that outside of the other stuff, the other stuff you'll understand what I'm saying. But I would go and I would travel around to every single state in the United States. I don't want to fly out of the country. It's, I mean, people always want to go out of the country. But my thing is, is the United States is so amazing. And we're so blessed to live in this country. No country has to offer what this country has. Not one. I don't want to go to another country. I could give a rip.

I did go to Israel. That wasn't a bucket list thing. That just was a fluke. And I'm very blessed that I got to go there. But that was never even a thing where I just have to go. I didn't feel like that. Now, this country is hands down the only place that I would really want to go. I would want to hit like all the hot spots, like things that, like big things happened, like monuments, national parks, things like that.

And then like where you, you know how you can go like, the only place I can really think of, I would like to hit some of those places like Mayberry. Like all these little towns where it's very quaint and sweet and you get to see those special things that no one gets to see because everybody just goes on the highway and flies past it. But there's so many amazing little towns in this world, in this country, that aren't even on the map.

But, man, they would be awesome to experience. Those are the only things. Big monuments, national parks, and then little towns. That's what – with my kids and my husband. That's my family. And do it in the car. Because I'm just telling you, when we went out west and we did it, we did it, Tommy turned 18.

Tom retired. Let's see. Tom turned 18, I think, 2017. So seven years ago, we went out west and we did like three weeks. And we went, we took, we rented a van and then we went all the way up to Memphis because Tom had to see Elvis. I can't see Elvis. So we went to Memphis, all the way over, hit, you know, Grand Canyon, hit some major places across, all the way over to Vegas. So we hit some special spots along the way to Vegas and then Vegas up all the way to South Dakota, Montana.

Hit the Canada line because we went to Glacier National Park, which is, that's a place everybody should go to. Unbelievable. You got to take Sun Road, though. That is the worst and scariest and most beautiful ride you'll ever make. Norma had her head down the whole entire time. It's scary as crap. But it's gorgeous but like uh went to south dakota went to the um where are all the president's heads what's that mount brushmore and then came home that was unbelievable hit some

national parks away that you can't in three weeks you can't do it justice but it was really like you wouldn't believe how gorgeous this country is. Yeah. Unless you do it in the car. If you do it in the car, like, every day was just a wow moment. And then do it with your family. And let me tell you, my family is funny as crap. My son is hilarious.

Norma is pretty dang funny. We laugh so hard. And Tom, of course, like, oh dear God. In any situation, you never know what's going to happen. Any situation. So lots, I mean, we were laughing. I'm not, I'm like, I'm funny, but I'm not the funny one in the family. They're hilarious. And gosh, we had so much fun. We laughed so hard. But then I would do this. Now, here's the thing. The rest of it is, for me, the rest of it's crap. The rest of the bucket list, the only thing that I say that I, if I could have a bucket list, now I'm not trying to sound churchy here or super spiritual, but the rest

of it just doesn't matter to me. I'll be honest with you. If I could, and I can, that's the great thing about this. So these two things that I'm about to tell you that are on my bucket list, they're just like being able to travel throughout the United States. They're possibilities, right? possibilities right but if i could do all the miracles that jesus did 10 times plus because he did them a lot right so if i could perform them on his level and above because he says we will jesus words were you'll do you not only will do what i did but you'll do them greater so for me i'm like i want to get to that place and that's up to me whether I do it or not but if I could see that if that if I that would be and that's what I'm striving for right now like I am I'm focused in um on getting to that to that goal I see miracles but I want to see them

all yeah and then I want to do them all the time. Then the last thing that I would say, because it's three things, is I want to win. If I could, I'm 56. It is possible, but I think the time is drawing near for his return. So I'm not quite sure how far I'll get with this. But literally, if I could win a million plus souls,

at least a million, at least a million, if I could do that, that would be unbelievable that's like what else matters because nothing else for me i looked at that list and i went all of that is eternity driven right uh winning the loss is eternity uh saving or um healing the sick um doing miracles and stuff like that that's eternity because they'll that's like things that you he came in power you can win the loss but through his power right paul did that um

and then like going in on a trip with your family that's eternity too because they're going to go with me but that's like all the things that you can take with you so for me it's like super easy there's nothing else that really matters. What would you do? I was like, I wonder what Tracy and Logan would have as their three. I really want to see every state. Like every single state. I mean, gosh.

I know. It's crazy. Even the boring ones. I want to like find something there. Because every single one has something. Like the caves and just weird things. I will tell you Oklahoma though. I've been there. Outside of the hail that was on the side of the road that we thought were rocks until we figured out it was

hail yeah there ain't went there went much in there that i see why people leave okay okay well travel through then just stop and see something say you saw it yeah it'd be a road trip thing yeah if you saw a tornado it might be cool unless it devastated something yeah true otherwise i don't really see much need for oklahoma right right god bless you if you live in oklahoma nothing i'm not trying to talk bad about your state but yeah there's no beach no offense no offense i mean like what is there i went from i mean my friends are from there kristin and lee so what do they do they moved here for a reason. Oh, yeah, that's right. They're like, they love their family.

They have family there. Outside of that, they're like, hmm. Yeah. I know. I don't know many people who are moving back to Oklahoma. That's true. They leave and they don't go back. They don't go back.

Oh, no, that's not true. Their son moved back there. Take that back. But, I mean, I don't know. Go ahead. What else would you do i'll piggyback i want to see that level of miracles yes like i i don't want to just see like we just had a miracle the other day a healing just the other day in here when we prayed yeah and so i want but every

time like i want to end bigger and greater and better and like wow nothing else matters i mean i'm like gosh there's just nothing else that compares to what god can do through you like for me it's like you can jump out of an airplane and skydive which listen if that's on your bucket list i don't i will do it but i'm like what comes from that though like what good i mean adrenaline rush and that what, like what's missing? But I would get an adrenaline rush from seeing blind eyes open. Right, right. Like holy mackerel.

Yeah, yeah. And that's a life change. Yeah. That would be a huge adrenaline rush. A deafier opening I can hear for the first time. Like that,

that would be amazing. That's monster big. Yeah. Yeah. So, so both of those would be, what would your, okay,

so the, so it's seeing the United States each day. Every be, what would your, okay, so it's seeing the United States. Every state, yeah. Then what would your next one be? Because, I mean, you did miracles. What would your last one be, I should say? I do want to travel.

Like, travel's a big one for me. Out of the country? Yeah, I've never been to Europe. I've been to all the Caribbean states or Caribbean islands. Yeah. But I've never been. Out of I've been to all the Caribbean state or Caribbean islands. Yeah. But I've never been. Out of the country? Well, Canada and those ones.

I've been to Canada. And Canada is beautiful. Like Canada, as bad as politically it's gone. Oh, my gosh. British Columbia. Yeah. That is gorgeous. Yeah.

Gorgeous. Vancouver is just. It is. is so beautiful they have a beautiful country that's for sure especially in the autumn like when all the leaves i didn't go in there really every color so beautiful i never got to go there during that time but i got to go in winter which was still gorgeous like for me i'm in i see tropical i don't want to see more sun i want to see the winter see the difference yeah yeah absolutely but then a pineapple express came through and kind of destroyed the whole thing yeah it went from being cold to 70 degrees which it was colder here in florida than it was in Canada. Yeah. Tom was trying to ski.

Not happy about that. Yeah. Not happy about that. Yeah. What would you do, Logan? Come on over to that microphone sister. So people can hear you. So I'm going to go straight worldly. Yeah. Go for it girl. Okay. So the first one would be bungee jump. Oh wow. Um, cause I've jumped out of almost everything. So that's one I haven't done. And then I would jump off the cliffs in Hawaii right into the water. Oh, my gosh. You are an adventurous soul. And then I want to scuba with humpback whales. She's an outdoorsy kind of girl. I'll stick to the inside.

I went scuba diving. I almost died. True story. Right, Dad? Yeah. No, I trusted my dad, and he did save my life. You want to know the story real quick? Can I please hear the story?

Because I know your dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was 40 feet under, and I was 16 years old, and we practiced on an all-inclusive vacation in a pool. And so they're like, oh, you're good. You can go. And so we went out into the water. After one time?

One time. It was in Jamaica. And so we went under 40 feet under, and we're under. That's deep. Somebody comes by and kicks my little breathing tube regulator out with their flipper. And I was just like, I panicked. I was like, uh, I looked around trying to find it. Yeah. Oh no. My dad didn't. It was the guy. It was the, um, no, no. You were trying to find the thing. No, I wasn't. I panicked. Oh, cause you're 16.

And I just stopped and I just looked around and I looked up and I was like too far. Can't do it. And then the instructor swam past me and shoved it in my mouth and pushed the little button and then I was and then my dad my dad was ahead of me he was swimming he did not save my life it was the introduction thank god for the I don't even I don't even know what I would have done yeah so that was that was amazing you would have been cremated that's what you would have done I would have been at the bottom of the ocean which i'm not yeah that's okay but yeah so that's my scuba diving so maybe that's why i've done those things and i'm like been there done that yeah i have not been there done that and i have no desire to be there and do that yeah no thank you okay that's interesting so have fun logan

do your thing but logan's pregnant so lo's going to shelf that stuff for a little bit. She's going to shelf it for a little while. You can do it after you have the baby. We'll let you do it after you have the baby. Until then, no. I did just swim with manatees. That's awesome. She just said, because you can't hear her, she said she did just swim with manatees,

which I've heard is pretty fun. They're the, what do they call those things? The gentle? Chubby mermaids. That's what they call them? That's not what I've ever heard of. Sea cows. Gentle sea cows.

Thank you. I've got 15 minutes, people. I'm going to answer another question. If Jesus took all our disease, I love this question. This was a great question. If Jesus took all our diseases on the cross, then why do we ever get sick? I heard Jonathan, meaning Jonathan Shuttlesworth. I love it that everybody's watching him.

I mean, seriously, he's so good. And he will free you from a lot of nonsense. That's for sure. I heard Jonathan say it's illegal for Christians to be sick. Is that true? And if it is, why don't we teach that? So let's look at scripture to answer the first question. So the first part is, if Jesus took all our diseases on the cross, then why do we ever get sick? Well, we get sick because John 10, 10,

the thief come not to come. I have it memorized a different way. So I'm going to do it. The New King James, I have it memorized in IV. But New King James says, the thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come that they may have life and that they may have it more abundantly. Here's the thing. There's two sentences here. One is Satan. He comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

Okay, the reason why people are sick is because Satan, he comes to take life from you. He comes to take your wealth from you. He comes to take your family from you. He comes to kill, steal, and destroy. And whatever means that is, he'll do it. The thing is, is he can't do it if you know the second scripture. The problem is, is most people don't know the word. So there's the problem.

That's why Satan is successful. They can get sick because they don't know his promises. It says, but Jesus said, I have come that they may have life and that they may have it more abundantly. See, what problem is, is a lot of people believe that Jesus is the one that's doing it to them. Why is God putting me through these tests? Why is God allowing me to be sick?

Or God has made me sick so that I can be humble. Or God has done this to me so that I can win more people to the Lord. But there's a phrase that people use all the time that basically says that Jesus is doing this to them so that he can make them be an example to others and win others to the Lord. And that's just not true. So that's one of the reasons why people get sick because they have bad doctrine, bad theology,

and they live on the whim of whatever will be, will be. But John 10, 11 says, I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. See, Jesus already paid the price for us when he died on the cross. And he purchased a big, huge gift to us, not only through salvation, but through healing. A lot of times people just focus on the salvation part. There's three things that were done on the cross. Three things.

And people only focus on the one. And when you don't stand on the promises and you don't grab a hold of them, it's like having a Christmas tree and the presents underneath it and saying, those aren't for me. They're for somebody else. No, your name's on those presents. They are for you. But unless you go underneath that tree, you find the presents that have your name on them, you will not have a gift on Christmas morning. That's part of the problem. People do not know their word. They don't know that there are gifts for them that they can take. And so when Satan comes in to steal from them, he's able to do it because they don't know

the word. They don't know the promise or they have bad doctrine and they stand and believe on the bad doctrine, which is the sovereignty of God. You know, whatever God wills. God's will is never for anyone to be sick. It's clear in the word. And it's also 1 Peter 2.24 says, Who himself bore our sins in his own body on the tree that we having died to sins might live for righteousness by whose stripes you were healed.

He bought healing for you on the cross. Everyone, everyone, everyone can be healed. That is the truth. And I'm going to take you to scripture that even shows it even more. But by his stripes, you are healed or were healed. Past tense, meaning it is present day. It's not something that is a possibility. It's something that is factual, actual, and true. Now you just have to receive it.

In order to receive it though, you have to get bad doctrine out. You got to renew your mind and or doubt and unbelief. And then sometimes the word is clear that sometimes healing is progressive, but sometimes, but progressiveness can be up to you and how quickly you're healed. So it's just like I've talked about this before, but the 10 lepers, it's as they walked to the priest to show themselves cleansed is how the healing happened for them. It didn't happen instantaneously. The man he prayed for and put the mud on his eyes, he opened his eyes and he was healed okay there are but then

there's the blind man that he had to take out of the the town of Bethsaida walked him out of the town of Bethsaida didn't pray for him once prayed for him twice because of the doubt and unbelief it's only placed in the scriptures that Jesus prayed twice and on the second time, he opened his eyes. But the first time when he prayed, progressive, okay? People should, in a perfect world, be healing instantaneously, yes. But even Jesus wasn't able to heal people instantaneously, not because of his faith, but because of their faith. And let me make that perfectly clear. Jesus pulled that man out of that town because it says in the word of the unbelief that was in that town, not because of Jesus's unbelief. It says that Jesus left his own hometown because

of the doubt or as because of the unbelief that was there. He could do no mighty work is what it says. Not because he couldn't do it, but because of the unbelief that was in that town and the people. When he walked that man out of the town of Bethsaida, the thing is, is it says that the man could see the first time he prayed. He said that the people that he saw, so other people were around when he walked him out. So the crowd followed, but he said that it looked like the people were trees. They were walking trees. Okay, that goes to tell you that the man, if he knew what a tree looked like,

the odds are he had seen before because he knew what a tree looked like. So he could say people look like they're walking trees. So on the second time he prayed, that's when the healing took place. So can healing happen progressively? Yes. Should it happen progressively? No. Should it happen progressively? No. If our faith was where it was supposed to be, then we would see healing like that. But it's not. Who cares if you get healed? I mean, for me, when I say who cares if you get healed instantly,

there are some people that go, yeah, it's easy for you to say you're not sick with my sickness. I understand that. And that's not the point I'm trying to make. But what I'm trying to say at the end of the day is it's a difference of being healed progressively or not being healed at all. So I say who cares as long as you get healed. Okay. Be working out your faith. Be standing on the promises of God. Sometimes we have to work to get there. It doesn't happen instantly because, and sometimes you will happen instantly, but then there will be times that it doesn't. It's happened that way for me. Sometimes I've seen things immediately. Then there's been other times that I've seen things progressive, but I've seen them and that's

all I cared about because I just, I needed to see the end result be what the word said. Okay. I don't, I'm not a big quitter. I hate quitters. I'll be flat out honest with you. Don't come and tell me you quit. I'm not the one to talk to about that. I have no respect for quitters, nothing at all. I don't see anything in the word of God that talks about quitters being victorious. Okay. If you quit, I'm not your girl. But if you're a fighter and you persevere, because that's what the word says, those who endure to the end.

Endurance is the key. Quitting is not. You never win when you quit so if that's your instinct fight it for fight it with everything you have inside of you persevere because the word is very clear about people who persevere perseverance is hope you know i i would pull up that scripture for you really quick but there's truth in people who face adversity, persevere through it, and then come out on the other side. They're much stronger.

They see the result that they're standing and believing for. And then it creates a whole new level of faith for them. If you quit, you never get there. And quitting, to me, is so weak, I cannot bear it. I cannot bear it. Quitters, losers. I mean, I lose all the time, but I win a lot because I'm in there fighting. Losing and quitting are two different things. To see, you know, in life when you're going after things, I dream big. And when you dream big, well, you're going to lose some of the time because sometimes, like, to get to the level of the goal,

you're not going to hit the mark all the time. You're going to try and do something, and it's, like, not going to work out. But then you get back in there, and then eventually you're going to find the key. You're going to win, okay? okay losing is way different than quitting and people think they're the same they're not the same people will lose you're gonna lose in life i mean like i quote michael jordan all the time but he said he's had more successes he's had more losses than he's had successes but if he had never lost he wouldn't have ever gotten to the successes. You have to. But quitting? No. No. Yeah, please don't ever come and tell me you quit because I'm not the girl. I cannot stand it. I cannot bear it. And my family knows that. Don't come and tell me, like, if you're going to do

something and then you quit because it gets hard. Yeah. Figure it out, but don't quit. Isaiah 53, 5 says, But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement for our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we are healed. So here's the thing.

He was wounded for our transgressions. Transgressions are sin. He was bruised for our iniquities for sin so two things salvation right the chastisement of peace was upon him and by his stripes we were healed he became rich he became poor so that we might be rich again he came to this earth from from being a king to being in poverty to being a king again um but he had to be poor so that we might be rich so he came to this earth lived a son you know they they had money because judas stole from the treasury because he was the treasurer but they had money but nothing like what he had in heaven so but he came here jesus came to this earth for us so that we might have wealth and and the word is very clear that he wants us to live in abundance again abundance comes though through

paying your tithe and offering everybody Everybody has to do their part. Like, if you want to see healing in your body, by his stripes you are healed, then you need to tap into those healing scriptures. You need to understand how, you know, you believe in healing and you receive healing, and sometimes it's simple as saying Jesus died on the cross for you so that you might be healed, and people automatically go, he did? And then, boom, they see the healing. Then other people have been taught bad doctrine and believe that, que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be.

If it's his will, he'll heal you, you know. But I'm going to show you where it is his will. But those people will say, maybe he will, maybe he won't. And so you've got to get that bad doctrine out of you, you know. So healing comes through different things. Salvation is the same thing. You can tell a person over and over and over again that they need to be saved, and it's only through maybe hitting rock bottom that all of a sudden they go, oh, you know what, I think I might try God out. It's all the same thing. It's like, but it's already and available for you. It's when will you take it, when will you receive it,

and sometimes it's studying it out. People get sick, and they don't stand on the promise of the cross. So for me, that's the reason why, to answer the first question, which is if Jesus took all our diseases on the cross, then why did we get sick? It's because people don't stand on the promises. The last thing you asked was, oh, God, why don't we preach it or why isn't it taught? It is taught every single week. Tom teaches about this every single week that people should not be sick. Jonathan's term is that every single week. Tom teaches about this every single week, that people should not be sick.

Jonathan's term is that it's illegal. And actually, I love how he phrases that, because no Christian should be sick. We're to be the example. When we're sick and we're not getting well, then we look like the world. But when we're healed and we go from having cancer to no cancer, it's profound. People are like, I want what that guy has. I got cancer. How did you get rid of it?

I need that. That's why it's illegal. Nobody that calls himself a believer should be satisfied and just living a mediocre Christian walk and thinking that's okay. We should be higher level we should be the shining city on a hill we should be different than the rest of the world instead we're not we say god is good when until you god is good but it's really great when you go to heaven i mean that's not how it is um but john 14 14 says if you ask anything in my name, I will do it.

People don't study the Bible. They believe more in the doctors than they believe in what Jesus purchased for them on the cross. And I'm going to tell you, the Lord's Prayer is very clear that it is His will to heal you every time. Outside of the scriptures that I've already told you, Matthew 6, 9 through 13 says, in this manner, therefore pray. How many people actually pray this way and believe what it says? That's what I would say. They don't.

They don't read this, the Lord's Prayer. And the Lord's Prayer, it says, you don't have to pray the Lord's Prayer every single time, but the Lord's Prayer clearly talks about all the different things that cover all life situations our father in heaven hallowed be your name your kingdom come your will be done on earth as it is in heaven so his will on earth is what it is like in heaven is sickness and disease poverty in heaven is no one unsaved in heaven no all three things if you exist in heaven are provided for you in in heaven there is no sickness or disease so on earth we as believers should not walk around

in sickness and disease it is his will for anyone anyone that Satan has come to steal, kill, or destroy. It is his will that you have life and life more abundantly. It is up to you whether you say, on earth as it is in heaven, my body as well, because it is your will that I be healed, that I live like I would if I am in heaven. If I'm in heaven, there's no sickness and disease in my body. Poverty. There's no poverty. The streets are made of gold.

There's a cattle on a thousand hills. You have a mansion when you go to heaven that he has prepared for you. If he has prepared it for you, that means he has built it with his own hands. He has made it for you. Okay. He may have not built it with his own hands, but he has made sure and ensured that when you go to heaven, you have a mansion. The walls of heaven, the new heaven will be covered in jewels and gems. There is nothing that is not rich in heaven. And then everyone that's in heaven is saved.

There is no one that is in heaven that is not saved. Everyone that chooses not to be saved is in hell. So three things that Jesus paid for on the cross all exist in heaven. So it is his will that all those things on earth exist for you. Salvation, prosperity prosperity and healing i hope that answered your question because it makes complete sense to me and jonathan is right it should be um it should be illegal if people thought that being sick was illegal as a christian

they might think more differently about being sick. Yeah. I mean, it's that serious. Yeah. I just think people say it much nicer, but it's, I mean, you shouldn't be satisfied with it. You should think this is against the law of the Word of God. Yeah, yeah. It goes against everything the Word of God says.

Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, you need to hate it. Because a price was paid on the cross for each and every single one of us. Jesus came and when he died on that cross and he bore those stripes, it says in the word that he was so badly beaten that he was unrecognizable as a human being. That no one could tell that he was a human anymore. When somebody bears that kind of brutality for you, for me, for mankind, we should take it a little serious about the degree in which they would go for us. And then when we have healing that's provided for us, and we're kind

of nonchalant about it, it's a slap in the face to what Jesus did on the provided for us, and we're kind of nonchalant about it, it's a slap in the face to what Jesus did on the cross for us. It truthfully is. And people will wish it away because they don't want to take personal responsibility if they fail and they don't receive their healing. They'll blame it on him for the healing that they didn't receive, but he already did it on the cross. And now you slap him in the face again because you say, guess it wasn't your will that you heal me.

Well, know your word because you're wrong. And now you're putting it all back on him again. I, like, get spiritually infuriated over that. Righteously anger. Righteously angry over that. Because to me, it's like, how dare you? How dare you? And it's all because people are weak, easily offended,

and can't take responsibility for not knowing the Word of God because they would rather scroll through Instagram, watch TV, look at something on their computer, read a book that's not the Bible. Listen to somebody else's doctrine and theology versus figure it out for themselves. All of it is weak. All of it is lazy. And none of it is word-based. So I don't know.

Maybe people like living in lack. Maybe people like being sick. I don't know. People love being victims nowadays. But I would say run to the word because it's way more freeing and it has a lot more to offer because outside of that. I will say this, though. I will tell you, like, you know, Tom preaches a very – he's full gospel. So he preaches sin, heaven, hell. But you talk about blessings,

prosperity. You talk about sickness and disease, and God wants you well, and people literally walk out the door more than anything. I mean, you think about how many people have walked out the door because of COVID. They'd rather be sick. They'd rather it be okay that COVID was real. They wore their mask and people got sick and died versus stand and say, that's not God's will. That is not what God wanted.

We as believers have the authority to defy all of that stuff. They'd rather be weak. They'd rather walk out the door. But blessings, I kid you not, blessings send more people walking from a fence. And you know why that is? Because they're weak. They're weak, and they'd rather be weak. Victim mentality is just priceless to people.

They love it. It's an attention getter. Yeah. They thrive on the attention. And it makes me sick. Listen, the word is clear. We're to be strong in the Lord and the power of his might. We're not to be doormats. We're not to be victims. We're not to be like the world. Be strong in the Lord and the power of his might. To be bold as a lion. That's what it says. And, you know, people just, they thrive on the opposite. That's why that scripture in Joshua says, if it seems evil to you to serve the Lord, choose this day. Because to people,

it's evil for you to stand up against COVID. It's evil for you to do that. But what's the word say? Opposite of that. It's crazy. So I tell you this. First of all, we're going to say the sinner's prayer. And I will just tell you that if you are not saved or if you walked away don't be like the christians a lot of christians that you know god has so much more for you and maybe you think i don't want to be like that christian or or uh or christians that i know um because they are weak and they don't look anything different than the world you be different you be different than what are you laughing over there because you're right she is because

she thinks i'm going to say you be you i hold back a lot were you thinking that logan yes she's taking her head don't you be you you be like jesus oh that Jesus. Oh, that's a new one. That's the new one. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Don't be like everybody else that you see. They will let you down. They are not.

Most Christians, narrow is the way, most Christians are getting it wrong. That's the facts. But don't be like them. Get in that word. Find out who he's called you to be and walk that out. And it's far better than anyone else that you probably know and see doing it right now.

Because so many people are so woke and they're missing out on so much, but you can be different and you don't have to look like them and you can live such a better life than them. So let's just pray. If you don't know him, if you can be different and you don't have to look like them and you can live such a better life than them. So let's just pray. If you don't know him, if you've walked away, let's pray real quick together. Get your life right with God. Set the pace, set the standard high, go for it. And sky's the limit once you do this. Dear Heavenly Father, we come to you right now we ask you to forgive us of our sins

we ask you to be lord and savior of our life i repent of what i have done lord and i will serve you all the days of my life i thank you that you died on the cross and that you rose again. And when I grow old, I will go to heaven and live with you forever. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen. If you said that prayer, let us know. We'd love to stand with you. As I always say, you don't have to do it alone.

We can pray with you. We can stand with you. And we can even, if you don't know where Foundation Church is, we can hook you up and hopefully find a good church for you to attend. Because really, iron sharpens iron. It says to win the loss and make disciples of believers. It's great that you get saved, but you have to be discipled. It's the key.

It's the key because you'll get lost. You'll be like the parable of the s of the different seeds that were were sown and out of all of them only one good fell on good soil so we want to make sure that that happens for you next thing is it is Memorial Day weekend three-day weekend I can't wait because I got a lot of work to do at my house oh my gosh my house there's so much work being done at this church right now but we move back in to our they just finished the podcast room so Tom should be in there tomorrow night and then we'll be in there on Wednesday hopefully they get our offices back together. I know that the people that are our general contractor is working very hard.

Travis is working very hard. Life will hopefully be normal somewhat soon. But my house has just begun. I've had so many workmen there. I have no water, people. You should have seen me getting ready. It's crazy. But three-day weekend, make sure, make sure you make sure

that you don't forget why we have this weekend. It's vitally important. This Veterans Day, Fourth of July, anything that, any patriotic holiday outside of our Christian holidays, the rest of them don't matter. But these holidays, they truly matter because someone gave up, in some cases, everything for us. And it should never be taken for granted. And it should never be thought of half-hearted people lost their children people lost their brothers people lost their fathers so that we have a fantastic free life and make sure you honor that make sure you take time to

tell somebody thank you and never ever ever take it for granted because we are the only country that has the life I mean people are coming to this country for a reason outside of the Biden administration inviting them in but people have fought tooth and nail to get to this country to have the freedoms that we have and we're blessed if you live live in America, you are blessed beyond measure. And let's just remember that this weekend. So have a fantastic weekend, happy Memorial Day, and we will see you on Wednesday. Bye.

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