The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E58 | 08-04-23

Episode Date: August 11, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E58 | 08-04-23...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Real Talk Hello everyone, welcome to the Hope Hotline. I am excited about today because I have my friend back, Tracy. Hello. Yay! So happy. Okay, I'm looking at my arms. You look buff.
Starting point is 00:00:40 No, I don't look buff. I see the cellulite. What? Look at your forearms. Go back up on like this? Look at your forearms. Look at your forearms. My forearms? No, go back up on like this. What? Look at your forearms. Like right here. Man, you are working out, girl.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Hey. I think that's the only place I actually had muscle from the very beginning before we started working out. Oh, my gosh. That's probably from lifting babies. Tommy was a tub-o-lard. Okay. So. Could be.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Could be. Gotta love a fat baby. I know. Like, not to say, like, Norman was a tub-o-lard. Could be. Gotta love a fat baby. I know. Not to say, like, Norma was a skinny mini. I'm going to keep my arms like this right here. Look at how skinny they look right there. Woo-hoo. Telling you.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm going to leave it like that. So. You said Norma was skinny. Oh, yeah yeah norma was a lightweight okay she was super tiny okay very petite yeah um tommy he was a chunk of monk okay he was he was he was kind of he was really fat he was like he was really fat super cute like big old cheeks and dimples. He's a, he was a fat boy. So literally I would carry him. And this is when I was a lot skinnier. Okay. Cause after I had him, I like, think I shrunk to like 103 pounds or something like that. Well, I wasn't very big to begin with. I mean, like I told you, Tom used to tell me I had to eat ice cream before I went to bed because I was like 98 pounds.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Never. Double zero. Never my problem. Yeah. Never. What I would give for those to be the days, like to eat ice cream every night before bed. Have to. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I love ice cream. It's my favorite thing. I agree. I don't know. It's like peanut butter, chocolate peanut butter. Oh, that sounds so good. It's my favorite thing. I agree. I don't know. It's like chocolate peanut butter. Oh, that sounds so good. That's my vice. But I'll tell you, Culver's, they're a blackberry cobbler.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I love that. I used to, listen, when I didn't care, I would stop by and get a mini. When I saw the flavor of the day, go in, get a mini that in the Heath bar, chocolate Heath bar. So good. If you guys have never tried Culver's ice cream and you don't really care about what you look like or how much weight you gain,
Starting point is 00:03:00 been there, done that. Stop in. You will not, they will not disappoint from their shakes. It's custard. that. Stop in. You will not. They will not disappoint. From their shakes. It's custard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:08 So good. So props to Culver's. I should get paid for a commercial because I just, you know, whatever. But, yeah, my forearms. I'm, like, trying to figure out where we're at. My forearms probably from lifting my fat boy. I don't know. They look good.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Which he's not you know he's not he stayed fat for a really long time and then I literally looked like I was carrying half of myself I was gonna say that would be a funny picture like oh it was you're not tall and you're tiny so people were like how do you carry him it It reminds me of the Abbott's son. Yeah, I'm not going to name names because I don't know if they want me to do that. But like when Mrs. Abbott, that starts with a B, that she would carry her son,
Starting point is 00:04:00 you're like, that don't even seem right. He should be carrying you. Yeah, it's like Katie. Because, you know what I'm saying? It didn't seem right he should be carrying you yeah it's like katie because you know what i'm saying yeah like it didn't seem right that's what it looked like it looked like i should not be carrying him he should be carrying me because he's a big boy so um but i'm so glad you're back and glad to be listen people yeah she's a storyteller i am so she's back from new york and guess what? She brought us pictures.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I did. Now, some of you guys might not be like, I didn't tune in for this. No, you did. You want to know. But I will say, how long do you think you're going to talk about this? Two to three minutes?
Starting point is 00:04:36 When you're bored, I'll be done. No, no, no, no, no. Come back in two to three minutes. No, no, stay. If this doesn't interest them, that's fine. No, no, no, you'll love this. Do not miss it. I love it. I have stories to tell for everything's fine. No, no, no. You'll love this. Do not miss it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I have stories to tell for everything. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. But I'm fast. I talk very fast. Yes, you do. That is true. I can say who I worked for.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Last year when I worked for them, I couldn't say the model. Name of the company? Yeah. So I'm working for Marisa's right now. They are a woman's brand. And I was working with Chico's, who's White House Black Market in Soma. And that's how I met the PR advertising woman that now works for Marisa's. So that's how I got transitioned to them. And it's just random projects that they need for social media. And it's so cool. I love it. for social media and it's so cool. So they needed some new social media, um, and they have an office in Brooklyn. And so they flew me up there just for the last two days to, um, just do some video
Starting point is 00:05:33 content. So it was all video. It was no, I don't want to put my arms like that. Change in that position. All right. Okay. So you did only video work. Only video. No pictures. No photos. So no photo shoot this time. Nope. Okay. Just photo. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Just video. Okay. So I flew into Newark, and this is the first photo I took in my Uber. And it was just like there's something about the city line that is just so beautiful. It is. And then I stayed in this really cool hotel. I have some pictures a little bit later at the nighttime but it was just like I mean very small but super cute kind of like a loft it was yes
Starting point is 00:06:12 oh my gosh that's so cool like that's the middle picture is my bed and that's it like there's like a tiny little spot on the side and a tiny little spot on that side and but this is the first hotel they have in the United States the other one is in London and this is the first hotel they have in the United States. The other one is in London. And this is the first one they brought over here. It's called the Hoxton. Hoxton. H-O-X-T-O-N. And then so I woke up in the morning.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I was like, I really want a New York bagel. So I took a nice little four-minute walk down the road. And I found this hole-in-the-wall bagel place. And I had avocado, egg, and bacon. Oh, my gosh. That looks so good and I had avocado, egg and bacon. Gosh, that looks so I could only eat half of it. And the funny part is it was a BOGO deal. So I had to. So did you give it to a homeless person? No, I didn't. I gave it to my friend Kristen that I traveled or that met me up there. Oh, awesome. Yeah. And so and it's really cool because actually
Starting point is 00:07:01 behind the picture of the bagel is the hotel I stayed in. And that's where you can eat breakfast in the morning. And then they have these random ladders, which I'll take another picture of. But you can sit outside and it's open. And then there's all these benches to sit on. And it kind of goes up. That is awesome. So this is the video.
Starting point is 00:07:22 That's where I was sitting. And it's beautiful. How cool is it outside there? 75 degrees. Oh, my. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Was there a breeze blowing at 75, or was it just 75 degrees? No, it was a breeze, and it was, like, so beautiful. Like, it wasn't too hot. It was perfect. And they had said it was just like 100 degrees a few days before that so Jesus loves me I'm his favorite gosh what a reprieve what a reprieve seriously no for real it was and that's why I enjoyed every moment of it so flippin hot but it's it's not like it's not the hottest that it's ever been in July no I actually think it's ever been in July. No. I actually think it's hot, but I sat outside on Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:08:10 Wednesday, Tuesday or Wednesday, and there was such a breeze blowing. Yeah. Like, and it was so nice outside. I'm like, dang, this is nice. So like, it's hot, but August,
Starting point is 00:08:23 I was doing research about August. Do you know that in all of the this was saying, now, again, this is the internet. So how much you can believe from it, I do not know. But they say August is the hottest month, period, of all months, which I have sworn by that. My husband has argued that point with me, but I swear August is the hottest month. August is hot. It is.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It didn't say where August, I mean, I was doing research, but I guess August is the hottest month period, based on what it said. But I don't think that's true, because if you're up north, it's not that. July is yeah and it's like Florida August is the hottest yeah by far oh yeah it's ridiculous by far it's ridiculous so okay okay so then um after that we ended up going over to
Starting point is 00:09:19 the office and that is a 10 minute walk um So everything was super close. So you got your exercise in. I did. I did. I got my nice little walk in. So when you look out the window, these are like floor to ceiling windows on the 19th floor. And it was just ridiculous. I mean, that's you can see on the first picture on the left, the Empire State Building is that tall building. And then on the right is obviously like where, um, the lower Manhattan, is that right? Yeah. Vanessa. Okay. Everybody. Um,
Starting point is 00:09:53 and then if you zoom into that picture, you can see the statue of Liberty. So that was really cool. And then that evening after I was done at like five o'clock, I went for a walk again because I was like, how could you not? Because it's beautiful out. It's just beautiful. And there's something about the skyline. It never gets old, and it is just so beautiful. It's such a shame because I had to go to New Jersey, but I had to go, like, New York is literally 20 minutes away from where I have to go.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Not with the traffic. It kind of reminded me when I lived in D.C. because I was, like, actually 20 minutes away from the city. But if the traffic was going on, it could be anywhere from an hour and a half to two hours. Mm-hmm. In short, it could be anywhere from an hour and a half to two hours. Short would be 45 minutes. But the thing is, what's so sad is how it's gotten so bad. It used to be such a safe city.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It was beautiful. And there was something so like, it's the place that everybody just wanted to always be able to say that they had been to. Because it's kind of like Washington, D.C. Yeah. Totally different reasons why. But it's like everybody, you know, Washington, D.C. is like one of the places you, there's so much history there. And it's like a must-do bucket list thing. New York City is the same thing. But I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I have no desire to go back. Just because, not because of concern with my safety, but just because of everything and how far it's gone. I know Vanessa just came back, had the time of her life, because Brooklyn is her hometown, and she knows where all the hot spots are, right? She's not going into Manhattan or anything like that. But it's like, outside of having family there, which is why she goes back,
Starting point is 00:11:51 there ain't no reason for me to go. I don't got no family there. And I've seen it, been there, done that. And I just, it's got nothing for me. But I agree with you. That skyline is gorgeous. It's ridiculous. It really is.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And I say gorgeous, it's just because if you've ever been there, if you go into Manhattan, you look up and you're like, how is it possible that these buildings could be this tall and everything could be so tight? Yeah. And people still, I don't care what anybody says the people when we go to new york city the people are nice yeah they are always nice i know they people get a bad rap yeah you know but every time i've ever gone to new york city nice nice nice and it's not like people with
Starting point is 00:12:40 a southern draw that's visiting there you know cause tourism's high, but now like all New Yorkers can't say enough great things about how kind they are when you go into their city and being so inundated with so many people. And I would literally want to kill somebody, but they're all nice. Like they understand the deal, you know, people are coming to their city,
Starting point is 00:13:03 they're spending their money. Right. They're nice about it. Yeah. So, but yeah, I agree with you. Like, that skyline, it's very crazy. Like, it's mind-boggling how you look at that city and you come out of Madison Square Gardens and everything is like right there.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yeah, I know. I know. It's crazy. Go ahead. Okay. So, I went for my walk and this, it led me past like just some fun stuff, like the barbershop to go down into the ground basically. And, um, all those bikes that you can get. And then now they, I don't know if they've always had a bike
Starting point is 00:13:36 lane, but, um, it was just, it was just cool to see all this. You know, that's for those 15 minute cities that are coming. I know, I know. I know, and I can see the interest in it, but to live there, no thank you. So when I was walking to go get dinner at this point. Look at that gym. And this is like literally right there, open. What the heck? Yeah, it was so cool. And then everybody's running.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Like everybody is running. Really? Yes. And like in groups of people, like you could tell they were together, you know, on their own. Um, and they have this link NYC. So they'll put up like, if there's a baseball game going, it was like Tampa Bay. I think I might have it somewhere else. Tampa Bay and New York were playing and it was like a live thing. And it's just different stuff that I've just never seen. Um, so this is another one vital. What is that? Yeah, they have the silk ropes and then they had uh rock walls
Starting point is 00:14:26 inside but also on the top of the building if you look you can see like the little top um garden yeah but there's a rock building or a rock wall up there as well on the outside way yeah that is so cool it really was so i decided to get pasta obviously so. So I found this pasta factory. And it was just like a little tiny building in the middle. And they're just preparing all the pastas. And it was... Divine. Amazing. And just more pictures on my little walk.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's just... So quaint. They had a lot of the outside dining areas, probably from COVID. Yeah. And I guess there's some issues going on right now about keeping them up or not keeping them up. So really, because they're probably somewhat in the way. Yeah, they are for parking and stuff like that. Yep, exactly. And these are just I don't know, it was just it started getting like blue hour at night. So just like fun pictures. And then this was my dinner in bed. Oh, yum.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Oh, girl. I know. I know. So then the next day I had to finish up. And again, just the skyline. And then this was a little time lapse I took because there were so many boats going. So it's just, yeah, it's just fun stuff. Then my ride home and then my airplane ride.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Coming home to us. Coming home to you guys. And then we almost couldn't land because there was a thunderstorm north of Fort Myers. So they said we had 30 minutes to circle. And this was, so this was our airplane. I'm like a geek and I love seeing like flight tracker stuff. So I flight trackered myself and we did this one little big loop that my red airplanes on, I don't know, like five times.
Starting point is 00:16:14 So I'm like, I don't want it. Cause they said if we couldn't land in 30 minutes, then we were going to have to go to Sarasota and refuel and then come back. And I was like, I don't want to. So I had Jair pray. And then I text messaged my Tuesday group. And I was like, hey, guys, I want to go home. Can you all pray with me?
Starting point is 00:16:29 And sure enough, like I sent it. And then they were like, oh, we're good. We're going to land. Because that's our God. Because that's our God. Because we can control the weather. That's right. You know, with a word.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Absolutely. People don't believe that. No, it happened. I can't tell you how many times I've prayed over the weather. I was so thankful. So I'm so thankful for my Tuesday group to stand in agreement with me very fast. I didn't even get to text anybody else. I was going to start sending out massive group texts.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Listen, you didn't need to. You got a powerhouse with you. Literally. Tuesday group. I'm telling you, they're amazing. There's something to be said about Bible studies. Like my mom's Bible study. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:06 They see miracles all the time. I love it. Like two or more gathered in his name. Amen. That's all you needed. Mm-hmm. Jaron, your Tuesday group.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah, exactly. Purred. Absolutely. Yeah, and that's, so that was my trip. It was very fast, 48 hours. I love that. Well, we missed you.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Heather's very glad. I know. Because Heather's not here right now. She's missed you. Heather's very glad. I know. Because Heather's not here right now. She's actually off. Heather's Friday. Heather's supposed to have every Friday off. Heather is like me.
Starting point is 00:17:34 She doesn't ever take her day off. I believe it. We never do. I know. But you know what? We love what we do. I know. And God's called us.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I really don't feel like that really don't feel like that i work i know ever that's how tom is always saying that he does whatever he wants or whatever he's like i don't really he doesn't take time off or anything but that's because i mean i live with a man so i know how much he he's working all the time yeah Yeah. All the time. Yeah. For the most part. But to him, it's not work. Yeah. Like, so for him, he literally doesn't feel like he's working. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He loves what he does. I hear it. But, like, if he's exercising, listening to teachings, or praying. Like, he's always about, or, and if he's not, then he's doing something for the practice. He's always about whatever. It's just crazy. But when you love what you do, it doesn't feel like work, so you don't really care if you take off. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:30 For sure. So, enough about that. Okay, so I'm so glad you're home. God bless. Don't leave me again for a little while. And get back to the gym. All right, let's go on to the next thing. Because she's dogging me at the gym.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Oh, my gosh. Her little girl's been sick. Yeah. I have Vanessa and Heather, and Heather's been more consistent than Vanessa. But Vanessa's making promises. Let's hope that she can stick with those promises. We'll see. Next week's a new week for her.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Save the date. Okay, so I just dogged the heck out of my friend. Actually, she's sitting right over there, so it's okay. She don't care. Vanessa's in the house today. Come over here, Vanessa, so people can actually see who Vanessa is. Okay, so she's going to go over to the crew. So everybody knows who Vanessa is. Oh, okay. Okay, so she's going to go over to the crew. So everybody knows who Vanessa is.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So it's me, Vanessa, and Heather at the gym every week. This is the team. There she is. So Vanessa's also on the worship. If you watch the church, if you attend the church, or you watch the church service online, Vanessa is one of the worship leaders. She sings. She's the deep voice jazzy singer, as I like to say. She's the diva of the group.
Starting point is 00:20:02 You're the diva? Oh, my gosh. You're the least of the divas. Although, I don't really. She's the diva of the group. You're the diva? Oh, my gosh. You're the least of the divas. Although, I don't really think there's any divas of the group. But she's the one that always sings real sulky and whispery. And she's got the lower and very, I say you're jazzy. I'll say that. Yeah, but I'm a huge jazz lover
Starting point is 00:20:26 So I love jazz But I love everything Like There ain't much music I don't love But I don't listen to I don't listen to secular anymore If you went to the gym
Starting point is 00:20:37 You wouldn't know that though Because they're putting on all this stuff And you know all the words And I know the words Not It's anything current Because it's old Nothing current Yeah If it's old stuff. Nothing current.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. If it's back in the day, club, like, I don't know, I dare say naughty. Give us an example. What? Give us an example. Like, what's a song that sticks out? Well, Salt-N-Pepa, like Belle Biv Devoe, like Cool. Coolio?
Starting point is 00:21:12 No, not Coolio. LL Cool J. LL Cool J. Run DMC. Run DMC. But then they get into some country, and I do know my country, but it has to be back in the day. I'm old school.
Starting point is 00:21:29 If you're going to – they put the hard rock on, I'm in. Like, they do some heavy stuff in there. I'm in. Like, that's my jam. Like, I'm not – my husband's a Leonard Skinner. I like, I know the Leonard Skinner, but like, I'm more of like, with some of that stuff that they've played, like, that's heavy. Not necessarily heavy, but it's rock.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Because we're jamming to it. Def Leppard. ACDC. They do do some ACDC. Shoot, whatever it's called. They did do Journey, but Journey's not really rock. So now, what? It's pop.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But, well, they didn't until Steven, whatever his name is, came on to the team, and then they went more pop. And then they sold more records. They didn't like him at first until they started making, and then they sold more records. They didn't like him at first until they started making. And then they loved him. So it's funny how money will make you sell out. Yeah. Because they were totally like, no, only to The Rock.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And then they started making some. And then they were like, we'll sell out. Yep. That's the way it goes sometimes. True. Put the. Okay, so back to this. This is truly more important
Starting point is 00:22:47 than my workout music. But, August 25th through the 26th is, what? 24th through the 26th? What did I say? 25th.
Starting point is 00:22:57 24th through the 26th. Yep. God bless. That's right. Is, save the date. I talk about this all the time, but there's reasons why.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It's because new people are watching. Also, like, you're like debating on whether you want to come or not, like I'm going to force your hand. You got to be here. You got to come. Right now we are at 275. It might be 274. People coming. Listen, if you have not registered for the conference that means you can't register for the breakfast and the breakfast is limited seating right now well it's going to stay limited seating so it's not just for right now it's limited seating it's actually going to stay limited seating period because we only have a certain amount of space for tables and chairs. So if you do not register for the conference, that means you can't register for the breakfast. So, and Logan, how many people did you say
Starting point is 00:23:57 there were spaces left right now? Because we've had to set aside some spaces, but how many spaces did you say there's right now left for breakfast? It was 11 o'clock this morning or 1030. There were 61 slots left. 61 slots left for breakfast. So I would say. Probably down to 50 now. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:16 If Heather's here, we'd know for sure. But I'm just telling you. And that breakfast, I went and did a taste test this week. It's going to be good. It's going to be good. It's going to be good. It's not from, it's a mom and popper that's catering it. It's going to be good. I can promise you that. Do you know who it's from? Maybe I'll tell people later, but I'm, or just the menu. I'm just saying, yummy. It's totally different than what we did last year.
Starting point is 00:24:50 It's good. Not that last year wasn't good. I wasn't really happy with last year's. Although the food was really top notch, it was quiche. And if you eat quiche cold and you like it, then you were happy. I don't like quiche cold. So I was very unhappy, even though it was top of the line quiche, all different kinds. But this girl don't like.
Starting point is 00:25:19 So I've made sure if it's supposed to be hot, it's going to be hot. If it's supposed to be cold, it's going to be cold. Because I ain't eating anything that I want hot cold. So if you haven't signed up or registered, put that thing up really quick that you created for me. That one with the QR code. So here's the thing. If you're on your computer, you can take your phone and you can hover your phone over that QR code, and you don't have to be vaccinated to actually use that QR code.
Starting point is 00:25:54 It actually works for vaccinated or unvaccinated people in this instance. But use that QR code. You can register. It will take you straight to the website where you can register. Now, if you don't have your phone, then you're going to want to go to the foundationchurchfl.com. You're going to click on events, and then you're going to go to the box that has the beloved, and then you're going to register.
Starting point is 00:26:16 There you can also get your T-shirt. If you don't want a T-shirt, no worries and if you want to register for the the breakfast then that's on a whole nother events page that you're gonna be able to do that too and Heather will I think Heather has to send you the link but whatever the last thing I will say is if you are a volunteer not if you want to be a volunteer if you are a volunteer for the event someone has asked you to volunteer then you might want to go and see Heather on Sunday and she's gonna she's got to talk to you about some stuff with that. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Disregard that. If you're a volunteer, we'll take care of you later. I'm going to confuse things. I'm going to make it really bad for her. Don't go and see her. She'll kill me. All right. Let's go to the real stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Why everybody tuned in, and I only have 30 minutes, and I'm really sorry for all the personal stuff, but I wanted to see the pictures, and it's really my podcast. So even if I have four people watching right now, I don't care because I, it's my podcast and I'm really happy that I got to see him and I'm hoping you got to see, you're happy too, but whatever. All right, let's go to the first question. Was Jesus Mary's biological son? We're going to look at scripture. Matthew 1 verse 20 says, But while he thought about things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife,
Starting point is 00:27:54 for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. So the answer to that question is absolutely, 100%. Now, if you ask me, was Joseph Jesus' biological father? I would absolutely tell you no, they weren't. If you look at the lineage of Joseph and you look at the lineage of Mary, they both came from the same family line. They were probably cousins or something along that line because both Joseph and Mary have the lineage of King David in their line. So what you were supposed to do is when you married, you married within your tribe, and tribe would stay pure a pure line and so that means like Abraham and Sarah it was Abram and Sarai they actually were brothers sister half brothers sisters
Starting point is 00:28:57 right they shared the same father but not the same mother. Okay. Um, if you look at, um, Jacob or Isaac and Rachel or Isaac and let's see, Abraham, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, it's Rachel and Leah, Jacob, Jacob. Isaac and... Oh, man, it's slipping my mind right now. It's because she was barren too. It's, tell me who it is really quick because I want to make sure I name the right one. So it's Sarah and Rachel's the next one. But Isaac, I can't remember who Isaac. Rebecca.
Starting point is 00:29:50 God, I knew it was an R and I'm like, I can't think of it. So Rebecca and Isaac actually are cousins. Because when the servant went to go and get Rebecca, it was to Sarah's brother Laban's house. So, I mean, yes, Sarah's brother Laban's house. Sarah is Isaac's mother. And so it was, was it Laban? No, Laban, yeah. I think that's right. They were cousins.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So everybody always married, like, within a family line. Very, very close. It's like nowadays we'd be concerned about that because we're like, oh, my gosh, we're going to end up with some, like, five-armed children and, like, our six-fingered or ten- or eleven-fingered kids. And, I mean, mean like a Cyclops, three eyed child, you know, you don't intermarry, right? We don't do that today. It's actually against the law. You cannot marry until it gets like to the third cousin. I think
Starting point is 00:30:58 it is in some States. Like, unless you live in West Virginia. West Virginia, you can pretty much do anything you want. And Kentucky. All things, all bets are off. Okay, okay. Apparently in Kentucky, you can do the same thing. I'm just saying. Some states, anything goes. But here in Florida, you're not allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:31:22 They have rules. So, you did. You married close to your family line. All right. I have to remember that. I have to look that up because it's been a long time since I studied all those things, but I feel like Jacob went back to his, yeah, Jacob went back to his mother's family, and that's how he married Rachel and Leah. Yeah, because he went back to his uncle's house. So it's the same thing. All of them cousins and things like that. Matthew 1, verse 18 says, Christ born of Mary.
Starting point is 00:31:58 That's the title of it. Christ born of Mary. Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows. After his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph before they came together, meaning sexual relations, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. So the Bible is very clear that Joseph and Mary never did anything until after Jesus was born. But if you understand how the Jewish system works, as far as when you actually asked somebody to marry you, you were considered
Starting point is 00:32:39 married. And then before the wedding, you were like, that was it. That's why Joseph was going to have to file a divorce from her because even though they didn't live in the same house, it usually took a year. The son would build a room off of his parents' house and then once that room was done they would go fetch the wife or we could now consider it to be a fiance but it was considered wife they'd fetch her the wedding would actually take place the official wedding would take place and then they would go in the
Starting point is 00:33:19 room and they would consummate the marriage well for Joseph they never consummated the marriage. Well, for Joseph, they never consummated the marriage. It never got that far until after, but they actually lived together before Jesus was born. So if you ever, listen, that stuff about how the Jewish faith back in the times, and people who practice it still to this day that are actually practicing it, they still abide by some of those rules and guidelines as far as getting married goes. So you should study it out. It's super interesting. It's not just super interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:55 It'll make the Bible come alive to you because you'll actually understand how the whole thing was with Mary and Joseph, why it all played out like it did. You'll sit there and it will be like, oh my gosh, I understand biblical or Jewish faith. Okay. So the scriptures are pretty clear. Mary is definitely 100% his biological mother. when the Holy Spirit planted the seed in her, which was Jesus, that's why he's still, I don't know how to explain it very well, but it's not like the Holy Spirit is his father, because God is his father, but it's the Trinity. And it didn't make it so that because he's part of the Trinity and he came to this earth
Starting point is 00:34:55 and he wasn't fully human, didn't make it that be that he still wasn't tempted by sin. Because some people will say, well, it was easy for him not to sin he's Jesus he is part of the trinity no he was still tempted the Bible is very clear he still was human he still was tempted by the same things he just made decisions that we ourselves can make be perfect as he was perfect because we now have the Holy Spirit that dwells within us just the same. So even though he was not, his father was not man, he was, mother was still, his mother was a human. So am I making that clear? Because sometimes I think I'm so confusing. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:46 I found something very interesting. Tell me. Are you sure? Are you ready for this? I'm always ready, but you're going to have to put yourself on because I'm not going to have people listening to your voice. All right, I'm on, I'm on. I'm here, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Okay, according to Insider Today, Oh, dear, lords of mercy. In Alabama, first cousins are allowed to marry, and they are also allowed to have sexual relationships and cohabitate. Also, Alaska, like Alabama, does not outlaw marriage between first cousins. You know what this is making it very possible? You know what this is doing? It's making it very possible for fathers to marry their daughters.
Starting point is 00:36:22 This is, like, ancestral. It's like first cousins in Arizona can only marry if one or both parties are 65 years or older. They can also marry if in the event that one or both parties are infertile. Oh, so that they can't have funky kids. First cousins in Arkansas are not allowed to marry, but they can have sexual relationships and cohabitate, which is most of the ones that say they are not allowed to marry. It's still not illegal for them to have sexual relations. California, first cousins are allowed. I mean, Colorado does not outlaw it. Connecticut, if you want to marry. I guess West Virginia and Kentucky are not alone.
Starting point is 00:37:05 No, no, no, no. Because Kentucky, that's why I'm like, what the heck? They don't allow it, right? Right, right. Kentucky, first cousins in Kentucky are not allowed to marry. But, oh, no, and cohabitate or have sexual relations. So West Virginia? So it might be, yeah, so it might be that's Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Not allowed to do any of them. So you're wrong, Logan. So it might be, that's Kentucky. Not allowed to do any of them. So you're wrong, Logan. No. So it was third cousin for her. Oh, third cousin. So you're right, Logan. Well, my aunt, when I told her I was moving to Kentucky, she was very stern and said, do you know they can marry cousins like their cousins there?
Starting point is 00:37:40 She was very concerned about me going to Kentucky from New York. Oh, my gosh. so I'm over here like making lists of like can and can't so I was I was tracking you know what I would love can I ask a question to the Hope Hotline yeah okay I would love for you to like show us like how you are in your brain seeing the lineage like it made sense in your brain like it'd be cool to see that on like you to walk us through and like kind of get the ball rolling for us to study through. What are you talking about? In the beginning when you were like saying like Isaac and Rebecca and you were like in
Starting point is 00:38:13 your brain, you know, processing through the bloodlines. Yeah. Like it'd be cool to see you do that on here. No, I've memorized it, but I haven't gone back to look at it. I literally have won trivia. I kid you not. That's my question to the whole pot line. I've crushed it. You know, they play these games at parties. One of them, if you go to a Christian thing, they always have Christian games. And then one of them was like who's parents of who and who was the sons and daughters.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Like it was like 30 questions. Okay. And I didn't miss any of them because I've studied lineage. Lineages are important. I know. They are. Super important. They are.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And I haven't looked at it in probably two, three years. So like. It's in your brain. It's in my brain. But I literally, if I looked at it, I'd be, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe you can write it out for me and I can make a cool graphic and we can because I think that'd be cool to get the ball rolling for people that are like, where do you start in the lineage? Like, do you start with Adam and Eve and then I did how you did it?
Starting point is 00:39:17 OK. Oh, yeah. OK. But you can go to. Here's the thing. Like, if you go to. I'll do it. That's what I'll do.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'll shit. I'll figure that out because lineages are important and then knowing how they all line up super interesting and then yeah the fact that it lines up at some like it all makes sense like nothing's like nothing's chaotic and nothing God did that's the crazy thing people like the chronological Bible, if you read the Bible chronologically, you would go, what? Are you kidding me? Because like Job is not in the middle. Job is like Genesis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:53 But people don't know that. And like, I'm just telling you, people think that the Bible is so boring. And I'm here to tell you, no, the Bible is like the biggest, most wild thing you've ever seen it's full of adventure it's full of love stories yeah it's full of like if you're a historian it's full of history and war and like even like if you are somebody who likes to this is the great thing about the bible that i love you know how you have the civil war or you have the revolutionary war or you have these the spanish war and everything like that when you read those wars the crazy thing about them is is you don't understand why they
Starting point is 00:40:39 made tactical errors or tactical measures that the way that they did, because a lot of times nobody told you why. I mean, you understand certain things to a certain extent, but you don't understand like all, all sides of things because not all sides, like you might, um, like when we're fighting Germany, right. We know why we made the decisions we made, but we don't understand why they're making some of the decisions they made, but we end up knowing what they did, but we don't know why they did it. Does that make sense? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Okay, the Bible is totally opposite than that. The Bible not only reveals why the Israelites did their side of things and what their thought processes was behind it because God was directing them. But then God tells you how he confused the other side and made them do what they did. So you know all sides. Now, if you're a person that's a faith person, hopefully a lot of people, and I'm not talking about having faith that you have salvation. I'm talking about if you're a person that is a faith person that needs to stand on certain things. I'm not talking about healing. I'm talking about as simple as buying and selling a house, as far as having to go to work and fight against people that are making sure that you don't get to the place that you need to get. And you know, God's got, God's told
Starting point is 00:42:17 you, you will be VP of this company, right? And you're like, only at a manager's level, right? And you're like only at a manager's level, right? You're like, well, how in the world is that ever going to happen? Because God has a strategy. And if you understand God's strategies and like Old Testament war times and stuff like that. You can read those battles. Like as the Israelites were taking over territory after territory after territory, they take the promised land, they get into Canaan and it tells you how he did it. And then it didn't stop there. God said, you're going to rule over all of it, right? So they had to go into all the Midianites. They had to go into all these Amorites, Hittites. They had to go and conquer all these territories. Then you see how God strategically set the Israelites up every single time. Then you start looking at your situation and go, okay, God, there's a strategy behind how I'm
Starting point is 00:43:17 going to be a manager to a VP. And then you sit there and your faith just increases, increases, increases, because you know the battle is not yours. The battle is his. And every single time, when you see how God took the Israelites and as he's, like Jonathan goes up with one of his servants. And Jonathan looks and he sees all the people that they're going to have to fight against. And finds out, like, they fight against themselves. They take all of themselves out, right?
Starting point is 00:43:47 They did not, you know, and I'm not saying that was in that specific thing, but you sit there and you see how God turned all of these three different armies against each other that were all coming. There was more of them than there was of the Israelites, and he turns all of them against each other because he creates confusion for them. They kill each other, and the Israelites go in and take the spoils. No one dies.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Like, if you look at the Bible, and you read it, and you apply it to yourself, you sit there and go, my steps are ordered. Whatever he's told me is going to happen, he'll tell me what I must do, when I must do it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 He'll tell me how to do it, because that's what he did with the Israelites. He told them strategically, I want you to go here. I want the trumpeters to go here. I want the tortures, people who carry the torches to go here. Then I want the other one to be over here. And he systematically set the whole thing up for them. And then all they had to do was be obedient to what he said, and then the victory was theirs if they were obedient. And so many times it looked like this is not possible. There is no way that we're going to take this. But God is like, no, I go before you.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I've got the whole thing set up. And if you do that in your everyday life and you apply the things that the word of God says, if he did it then, he'll do it now. It's like he's the same yesterday, today, and forever. Like if you look at the Bible in that way, in that light for you personally, then every single thing that you are going after or God's told you is going to be yours. Then you sit there and you use those examples and you apply them to you and you go, I don't have anything to worry about. I walk by faith, not by sight. He has it set up for me.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I'm just going to be obedient. And the rest will fall into place. So you'll climb the ladder. You'll be obedient to him. If people are trying to knock you out of the way, he'll knock them out of the way. You'll see it. You'll be like, this is just like what I've read in the Bible. Does that make clear?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Is that clear to you guys? Yeah. So a lot of times we don't think in the Bible. Does that make clear? Is that clear to you guys? Yeah. So a lot of times we don't think that the Bible's got anything for us, like it's boring. That's because you're boring. I don't know what to tell you. Like you're very small-minded. You'd rather read somebody's book about the Bible then read it for yourself but God really wants to enlighten you on what he has for you in
Starting point is 00:46:32 there versus what he's enlightened another man for so often we don't think that we can comprehend it or I just I would just say open the Bible up I'm not a big person. Let's open it up. That's for me. No. Start reading it and then see how God opens your heart and your mind to what he wants to share for you for where you're at in life. And it will radically change you spiritually speaking, ministerially, and all all those around you you'd be shocked but the
Starting point is 00:47:08 bible is very relevant and that's one of the things i love about the bible because again we don't know like you can read like you can watch the history channel and you can find out some of the ways that two sides were fighting against each other. But the Bible, it tells you everything. It tells you what the other side was thinking and what God was doing. And he tells you how it all played out. There's no second guessing like things in the Bible. It's all revealed. You know everything. Everything. There's no surprises. And you don't have to sit there and go, I wonder why. If you study it out, there will be, no, I wonder why. So you'll actually understand it because you've studied it out from top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And that's the reason why I love the Bible. I just love it. What's that picture you got? Have you seen this before? Never seen that before. Okay, so this is a graph that two, I believe they're two pastors made. It's a digital database of cross-references found in the King James Bible. So every one of these, it's 63,779 cross-references from Genesis to Revelation.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And they made this visually appealing to see how they all connected but that's like that's why they can't disprove the bottle though because that right there isn't that wild uh-huh there's like it's over like I can't remember how many things that have been proven that even scientifically yeah have been proven fact I mean it's thousands and thousands and thousands of things like it's not even possible. They can't. There's no point anymore. That's why Darwin gave up.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah, I know. He gave up because that is awesome. And that's so cool. That is very pretty. I know. And every color matters. Like, the white is Old Testament, I believe. The length of the arch is, like, how long the distance is between the cross references.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Like, every color, the shift in it means something it's it's really cool I'll put a link and just if anybody wants to like look at it deeper but yeah you can't just how do you disprove that like it's so perfect and that's why too and I and I like and I say this all the time guys I mean if you study the Bible out I was just before I came here today I was sharing with Tom like this is this is I love the Perry Stone Bible but and I and I love Perry Stone I really do like he's such a wealth of knowledge but I was telling Tom like he's he's a pre-tribber right he's pre-trib now Tom is mid-trib I tend to lean more mid-trib myself but I'm also be ready for everything so um but here's the thing what I
Starting point is 00:49:56 loved about him is he took a scripture in in in 1st Corinthians where it's 1 Corinthians 15, 51 and 52. And he took these two verses and he applied them to 1 Thessalonians. I can't remember what it was, which is 1 Thessalonians. I think it's two something. I can't remember. It's where everybody goes pre-trip, right? And Tom uses the same script. He uses the scriptures in Thessalonians to prove mid-trib. Because it's, you know what I love about Perry Stone is Perry Stone, who is, like I said, he's pre-trib. What he said is, this is where mid-trib could actually happen. He's like, scholars and theorists and students take these two verses, they apply them to the trumpets that is heard in Revelations,
Starting point is 00:50:48 and they believe they can prove that that's where mid-trip happens. So you know how great of a person it is? Like me and Tom are never sold on one thing. We have a belief, but like pastor Rodney and and pastor Jonathan they're pre trip and I can both of us can listen to them all day long about their pre trip and be enlightened by it be very enlightened by it because your mind should never be closed to anything to anything but that's one of the things I said to Tom i was like how he i mean he preaches pre-trip
Starting point is 00:51:28 but how amazing is it that that man can be so transparent and not be so dogmatic that he's so right because most people are like that they're not movable like they're right you're wrong and but i said to him like when I was reading him this information and in the bible or this in his um thing I was like how cool is that that that man as as passionate as he is he's still able to say this is where it could be possible I love that I just love that people we people we as Christians we should be able to sit there and say, I might be wrong about the Bible. The Bible might not be boring.
Starting point is 00:52:11 There might be some things in there that I could really learn. Put the book down that somebody wrote about it that interests you and open it up and see what applies to you. And don't just read it. Study it. It will blow your mind. It literally will blow your mind. But I love that about people who actually have studied the scriptures and they realize that no one knows about the day or hour
Starting point is 00:52:38 or maybe you don't have it completely going on and you just keep studying things out to see what that part plays for you. Because I've met people that just, they haven't even studied it, but they believe what they believe without even having the knowledge of the reason why they believe it. And to me, I'm like, that's dangerous. That's being ignorant. And you should never say, I believe without really being able to take yourself and others to the scriptures that stand behind what you believe instead of just say, well, my doctrine believes that. Why does your doctrine believe it? And what are the scriptures behind it to prove it? Most of the time, people only believe what they believe
Starting point is 00:53:24 because they've been taught it from the pulpit time, people only believe what they believe because they've been taught it from the pulpit, not because it is something they themselves have received revelation knowledge about. Super important that if your pastor is not telling you to study out the scriptures, and hopefully he is using scriptures when he's preaching, and more than two, but if your pastor's not giving you scriptures weekly and then saying, go home and study these scriptures out, don't just believe it because I'm telling you. Believe it because that's what the Word says.
Starting point is 00:53:53 If you're not following someone that's telling you that, that's dangerous because that's cultish. Yep. You never believe man. You believe the Word. True. So I'm going to go to the next question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Is the song of Moses and the song of the Lamb the same? I had no idea about the song of Moses or the song of the Lamb. I had no idea. I'm like, what the heck are both of those things? Which that's why I love these questions because, I mean, again, you guys are teaching me things. Okay. So I studied this out and it appears that they're two different, two different songs. Um, but they all are about praising and exalting God.
Starting point is 00:54:37 So that's, I think part of the reason why they're somewhat similar. But Revelation 15, 3 through 4 is the song of the Lamb. Okay. It says, they sing the song of Moses, the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, great and marvelous are your works, Lord God Almighty, just and true are your ways, O King of the saints, who shall not fear you, O Lord, and glorify your name. For you alone are holy, for all the nations shall come and worship before you, for your judgments have been manifested. There's three songs of Moses that he wrote. Moses wrote three songs, Exodus 15, Deuteronomy 32, 1 through 43, and Psalm 90. Deuteronomy 32 is-43 and Psalm 90 Deuteronomy 32 is actually
Starting point is 00:55:26 the official song of Moses so two different songs not the same and here's the thing I have four and a half minutes I got this one question I'm going to do it really fast and then we'll go straight to salvation.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Go to the next question, because I talked a lot today about nothing. Well, not about nothing, about some things, but no questions. So I want to make it up. So I'm going to get three done in like 20 minutes. That's pretty good. How long was the prodigal son gone? I can relate to this, because I was the prodigal daughter. Let's look at the scripture, Luke 15, 11 through 32. I'm going to read this, but I'm going to read
Starting point is 00:56:11 it really fast. Okay. Cause a lot of people go, who the heck is the prodigal son? I don't want to answer a question if you don't know who the heck I'm talking about. The prodigal son is called the parable of the lost son. So this was a story, and Jesus spoke in parables, which were stories. And the parables always related to things that people understood of that time. So when Jesus told this story, this is the story he told. There was a man who had two sons. The younger one said to his father, Father, give me my share of the estates.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So he divided his property between them. Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country, and there squandered his wealth in wild living. After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in the whole country, and he began to be in need. So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country. So he's going to become a slave. who sent him to the fields to feed pigs. So he goes from being a man who owns workers to being a worker himself. And pigs, if you know anything about Jewish culture, pigs, working with
Starting point is 00:57:22 pigs, being a shepherd, anything like that. Like you are the lowest of the low. Shepherds were considered the lowest of the low. That's why it was pretty cool when the angels came to the shepherds because they were considered to be lowlifes. And for God to honor them like that, it just shows the lesser will be greater kind of thing, right? Everybody thinks everybody who's got something going on in God's eyes, that's not always the
Starting point is 00:57:51 case. But in this case that he was working with pigs and pigs, like not cool. That's why when the demon was cast into the pigs, it seems fitting, but it cost that whole town a lot of money because pigs were worth some money. He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything. And when he came to his senses, he said, How many of my father's hired servants have food to spare? And here I am starving to death.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I will set out and go back to my father and say to him, Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. This is the beautiful part of the story. And some of you may or may not relate to it. And if you walked away from God, like me, you totally relate to this story. Like how precious, you know, this story, you felt this when you came back to God, if you have walked away from God, and you're still living a wildlife, then let this be a seed that's planted or maybe draws you back right now to come back to the Lord. Because this is exactly how it is with the Lord Jesus Christ for you. And if you don't know him, understand this is how important you are.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him. And he ran to his son, threw his arms saw him and was filled with compassion for him. And he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him. I almost could cry at this part because I totally, totally relate and totally understand it. I totally get this because this is how I felt. This story gets me every single time. The son said to him, father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. But the father said to him, father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son. But the father said to his servants, quick, bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Let's have a feast and celebrate. For this son of mine was dead and is alive again. He was lost And I will tell you that they threw the party. The older son gets jealous. And like the dad says, like to the son who's jealous. And the older son says to him, look, all these years I've been slaving for you. I never disobeyed your orders that you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. But when this son of yours has squandered your property and with prostitutes comes home, you kill a fattened calf for him. And this is what the dad says to him. And like my family, pretty much no one walked away from God for any length of time but me. None of them felt like the older son.
Starting point is 01:00:49 But some can relate. And this is what the dad says. My son, the father said, you are always with me and everything I have is yours. Well, we had to celebrate and be glad because this brother of yours was dead and is alive. And again, he was lost and is found. At no time does the story tell how long he was gone, how long it took him to spend all that money. It just said that he lived wild. That's it. That's all that the story talks about. And that he returned home and they celebrated. Because I really don't think it mattered how long he had been gone.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It mattered the results of his return, which was he was welcomed back with open arms and restored and redeemed. And that's one of the things, like, I will say Tom and I are big, big on. Everybody and everything is redeemable. It doesn't matter. I've had people leave this church and come back, and they feel like, well, I'll be accepted. 100% you'll be accepted.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Everybody, even if you left on the worst of terms, you talk bad about us, you talk bad about somebody else, because a lot of times it's really not Tom and I that people leave the church over. It's other people or other things or some kind of offense that makes absolutely no sense. But everybody, every time, and hopefully it is this case with your family. For mine, it was this case. They were anxiously awaiting my return, just like Jesus Christ is waiting and anxiously waiting for your return.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Your church, if it's Foundation Church and you've left and you're longing to come back, come back. Everybody is redeemable and everything is restorable. There is at no time, unless there's no repentance. If there's no repentance. If there's no repentance, then everything stays the same. So there's no reason to really come back. You can't come back to Jesus Christ in the same condition that you're in and expect to not change. He wants repentance.
Starting point is 01:03:03 He wants you to say, forgive me for what I've done. I just want you back. And if you are willing to do that, then he's willing and he's able to restore. But if you just plan to come back and act like nothing happened and live the same kind of lifestyle, that's not repentance. He said that he came to win the lost and disciple believers. In order to win the lost, that means repentance is required. A 180 degree turn must be done. That means if you're heading in this direction, when you repent, you're going in the opposite direction, which means your lifestyle is completely opposite of what it is currently.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Same thing. If you come back and you want to be redeemed and restored in a church, things can't stay the same way because nothing will have changed. So I would say, if you feel like everything you've done, and I have felt like that, everything I've done with my past, it's unforgivable. There's no way I've done and gone way too far. That's just not the truth. This young man that the story is told about spent all his father's money. He was living a wild life, getting drunk. If you look into the story more, he got drunk and he partied. He had prostitutes. He was out doing things that, you know, nobody has any business doing. Okay. If he can be saved and restored and brought back into
Starting point is 01:04:39 the fold, there is absolutely, I don't care if you killed somebody, if you've had an abortion, if you've been sexually promiscuous, if you've been vaccinated, because some people think vaccinations is like the abominable sin. Is that abominable? Is that the right word? No. Unforgivable sin. But it's not abominable.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I'm thinking of abominable snowman. I don't either, I think. Like they feel like it's, what is it when it's not abominable. I'm thinking of abominable snowman. I don't either. I think like they feel like it's, what is it when it's the unpardonable? Thank you. They feel like vaccinations. You've taken the mark. Okay. That ain't it. I mean, maybe you've lied and you feel like you've lied and you've lost your family from it. You've done drugs, whatever. There is absolutely, you can go, there is outside of the unpardonable sin, which for the record, the unpardonable sin is what the Jews did when they asked Jesus, when they got saved. Unpardonable sin is extremely difficult to do. Pretty much no one has done it. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is basically the same thing. Okay, it's so difficult.
Starting point is 01:05:48 If you care that you might have created the unpardonable sin, you haven't done it. Because people who've done it don't care. Literally, the unpardonable sin was when a Jewish person would walk away from their Jewish faith. They were totally ostracized. The family had nothing to do with them. They were on their own. They had no one to talk to. Like, everybody left them.
Starting point is 01:06:15 You could only be with now the people who were believers, that had gone the straight way, that were called Christians. And that was hard for some people because they were so connected to their tribe, to their family. And I don't mean tribe as in the tribe that we call tribe today. I don't like that term. I mean, I think I have my tribe.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I'm like, whatever. No, these people, their families were a clan. They were a tribe, okay? That whole family disconnected from them. They could have nothing to do with them. All their food, all their means, all their housing, everything gone. No one was going to have anything to do with you. You now had to reconnect with a bunch of people that you hadn't. The only thing you had in common was you are now believers of Jesus Christ, and then he died on the cross for your salvation. People couldn't handle it.
Starting point is 01:07:09 So what they did is in order to get back into their Jewish faith and their families, they had to denounce Jesus Christ. That meant that everything that they stood for and everything they believed in, they denounced him. And the word is very clear. You can't do that. The only way to get into heaven is but through him. They did that. So that's the unpardonable sin. It's very, very difficult. I don't know very many people who have denounced Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, or that he doesn't exist. I mean, even atheists, they don't even go as far as that. I mean, they say that there's no God,
Starting point is 01:07:54 but in truth, a lot of atheists have a question mark. And God looks at the heart. He knows the heart. There's really nothing. There's no far that anybody really has ever gone, except to that level. There's really nothing you have done that you can't be redeemed. You can't be restored. So if I'm speaking to you today, and you're like, you feel like there's a glimmer of hope, I say, grab a hold of the hope and get yourself right with God and start walking it out. And the peace that you are so longing for will just infiltrate you and you'll never want to not have it again. I really believe, I really believe there are people out there that just honestly believe they've gone too far and there's nothing that can bring them back or will ever get them right. And I would just say to you, that's the lie of the enemy.
Starting point is 01:08:56 He wants to make you believe that you're not worthy and you're of no value, and that's just not the truth at all. Jesus died on that cross for each and every single one of us because there's so much value and importance in each and every single one of us. So don't believe the lie of the enemy and say this prayer with me right now. Jesus, I thank you for what you did on that cross. I thank you for the value and importance that you believe that I am. I thank you that you forgive me of my sins,
Starting point is 01:09:39 and there's nothing too far or too long. I'm just going to wait a moment because the Holy Spirit is speaking to me. there's nothing too far gone or deep wound that I have caused to others for forgiveness. I really feel like it's important for, I don't know who I'm speaking to right now, but I really think it's so important for you just to be open to the love that God has for you. Just to let some walls down. Because he just, the Holy Spirit just really wants to love on you right now. Like, from the top of your head to the bottom of your feet,
Starting point is 01:11:04 just like fill you with such love and compassion because you don't give yourself a break. And you need a break. I'm just going to let it sit for a minute because I'm really believing the Holy Spirit's filling you right now and you're sensing his presence so that you can finish with your salvation. Thank you for what you did on that cross for me. I thank you for forgiving me of all the sins and the things that I feel like are unforgivable.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Listen, there is no length or distance that he will not go for you. You're that important. I thank you that salvation is providing heaven for me and I will spend eternity with you forever. The direction I was going, I'll go completely other way. And from this day on, I'll live for you. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen. Sorry. Not sorry. I don't cry very often, but I'm telling you right now, if that wasn't for one person, it might've been for many and it might not be for today. It might be for the future,
Starting point is 01:12:51 but I promise you, if that's you, don't let today go unfinished. Let today carry on for the rest of your life. Don't let it just end with feeling an emotion that you sense. Because tomorrow's going to come, and Satan's going to try and steal from you. Don't let him do it. I mean, I look at Logan over there. Two years in, and she could have just literally gotten her life right and then gone right back. Because the parable of the sower is so clear in Matthew, and that there are seeds that are planted, and they're taken up, and they're
Starting point is 01:13:34 uprooted. Don't let that be you, because God has got a great hope and future for you. And all the emptiness and loneliness that you're feeling, he wants to fill it up with not only himself, but like Logan. Logan has such a large group of people around her now that surround her, and they're all accountable to one another, and they're all going after it. And he has the same thing for you. Woman, man, she's married to a guy who is like a man's man, who has now been surrounded by the same like-minded people. God will do the same thing for you. He will blow your mind. Just don't give up. Please don't give up. If you said this prayer,
Starting point is 01:14:22 let us know. We'll stand with you. We'll pray with you. But whoever or if it's more than one, listen, don't give up on God. He'll never give up on you. Have a great weekend, and I will see you on Sunday at Futon Foundation Church. Otherwise, I'll see you on Wednesday. See you later. Bye.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Real talk. Real talk. on Wednesday. See you later. Bye. you

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