The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E68 | 09-08-23

Episode Date: September 9, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E68 | 09-08-23

Welcome to Friday, Hope Hotline Podcast. I'm all discombobulated. I don't know why Fridays do it to me. We're here. Yeah, we're here. We're good. It's a great day. It's a wonderful day. It is a wonderful day. Super excited about today. Lots of good things, but nothing in particular. So let's just go to the next slide, or the only slide so far. Please like and share. Subscribe.

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So it's like and share. Comment. Yep. All of those help bring numbers up, correct? Yes, very much. Subscribe, comment. Again, I'm repeating myself, Facebook, Rumble, YouTube, and BlackRobeTV.com. You can watch us on all of those platforms. You can even comment on BlackRobe, but you can't share on BlackRobe, correct? No. I mean, there's a link to share it.

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Perfect. Perfect. So friends, neighbors, please, please do your part, which really isn't your part. You're helping me out. But please help me out. Pretty much is what I'm saying to you. You got to help me out. I'm begging you.

I'm pleading with you. That's it. All righty. What's next? What do we got, girl? I see a tiger. I have a special surprise for you. Oh, dear Lord. I heard that it's a special day.

It is a special day. Here we go. Okay. With the distance now I'm back on my feet Just a man and his will to survive So many times it happens too fast You trade your passion for glory Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past You must fight just to keep them alive It's the eye of the tiger It's the thrill of the fight Rising up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor

Stalks his prey in the night And he's watching us go With the eye of the tiger It's dip-dap. Here it comes happy perf day pastor tom i heard it was his birthday and i wanted to make him a special card and the only one that satisfied was jib jab i laughed the whole time. I'm sure you did. If you could have seen my face while I was watching it, people, I'm like, what is that?

She was very confused. I think we have to watch it again. No, no, no. Totally unnecessary. It's the thought that counts in this one. It was. Totally, 100%. It's the thought that counts.

I was hoping for something emotional. No, no, no. What is going on here? Have you never done jib jab before? I have done jib jab. I've never seen anything like that before in my life for jib jab. Woo, woo, woo, woo. Like, I couldn't even figure out what it was doing or why it was like it was.

They were rising up in the morning. You've got to listen to the lyrics, but it's okay. I'll send it to you so you can watch it like a couple extra times. It probably will get you the next time. Are you sure about that? No. It's not anything about being in the morning. Yeah, it says rise up.

Do I have to play it again? No, rising up. Rising up. Yeah. Back on the streets. Yeah, and they got on the streets. They were doing everything the lyrics said. I don't think it's anything about anything about you look up the lyrics right now i don't think there's anything about the morning i think i should play it loops which he does love fruit loops but i'm just i don't

think that does it say anything about it logan put them on do you want me to play it again okay coming in look up the words i don't think it's yeah i'm words. I don't think it's... It's making it in my head. Yeah, I'm telling you. I don't think there's anything about eating or, like, coming in the morning. Like, I was perplexed. I love it. I love perplexing you. That's why you fit all personalities. Of course.

Oh, my gosh. Something else, Jake. Yeah, it was heartfelt. I literally was perplexed though i did not know i did not know where that was i know you didn't that was why is like he's not competing in anything like what's going on here it was just a birthday thank you logan they just logan is confused too it makes i wasn't trying to make sense i was my happy birthday card to him every birthday card doesn't always make sense.

It just is from the heart. I would have known it was him whose birthday it was. I didn't want anybody to know until the end. Oh, that was the plan. That was the plan. That's why I think I was confused. Yeah. No, it was all in the plan.

100%. So I start out as a tiger and then he ends up as a tiger. Yeah. So good. And you were break dancing? I never caught that. Do you need to watch it again? No.

Sure. I'm done. I have it ready. I'm going to be honest with you. I have it ready. If I never see that thing ever again. That thing is going to be stored in here somewhere special, and it's going to come out at a very special time.

So it is my husband's birthday today. It is. Happy birthday, Pastor Tom. After this, I'm going and getting him wings. That's what he wants. Ooh. Surprise, surprise. Yeah, surprise, surprise.

Shucker. So, yeah, it's a pretty good day in the Lively household. Pretty crazy. Got some stuff going on, but it's not a bad day. So, shall we just go straight to the questions? Because, listen, girl. I mean, I can play it one more time. No.

Okay, let's go. No. No, no, I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't think anybody wants to see that sucker again. Oh, man. You guys are party poopers. It's not about being oh look at my

hair I just literally you should have seen me trying do you want me to play it again and you can fix your hair I'm good I don't care like I'll pull my hair back in a ponytail right now we're not watching that sucker again only place only podcast in town where you'll see somebody fix their hair listen I we have some people on here commenting how amazing that video was. So just saying. But it's okay. We'll just go right to the questions. For all two of you, it's only because you're a fan of Tracy.

I love you guys. Thank you. Other than that, everybody else. And Jer, who is in the room. And I'm going to say nothing. He's so whipped. It's unbelievable. He's such a good husband.

He is a good husband. He's my ride or die. What? My ride or die. Gracious, appreciative, and whooped. Oh, my gosh. Listen, I'm not saying that you're not the man of your home. Okay?

That I'm not saying. But I'm saying you're whooped by your wife. I'm pretty cute. But you still can be the man of your home. Oh, Heather missed it. You can't be. Man, all these people missed it. They're going to be so disappointed.

That's okay. Don't worry, guys. I'll send it to you. Direct link. And you can watch it as much as you want. Listen. I'll put it in there. If you're watching me right now, you're not missing anything. Don't believe her.

Don't worry about it. You're going to sit there and go, what's going on here? Now that's going to make them want to watch it. Everybody wants to watch it. Heather's like, play it again. Are you kidding me? Everybody. Janelle missed it.

Galena said that was amazing. Listen, that's what you get for being late. Yeah. Oh, that's true. And Galena, listen, you know better. Like, your people are always late for everything. You and Puerto Ricans, late for everything. Okay? Tell you what.

That's what you get for being late to the podcast. You get to not see a thing. Yeah. And we had a new intro today. You guys missed all of it. It's okay. Bummer. They'll live.

Okay. I cannot endure. Oh, my gosh. They're still saying go. But I think you have some good questions. I have some good questions. I'm here for this. Let's just get to the questions.

Let's just do it. Okay. Here we go. We were recently told by Catholic friends that they believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus, did not die, but was assumed and taken to heaven. I have never heard this before. I kid you not. My husband grew up Catholic. I didn't ask him this. I didn't ask Tom this, but I should have.

Like, is that a fact, Jack? Because, like, holy crap. That's nuts to me. It is absolutely nowhere in scripture, but I'm going to just show you where they've cultivated something to make it. I don't know why different faiths do this. I don't understand this. Why not just stick to the Bible? But sometimes the Bible just isn't enough for some people and some doctrines.

So, okay. This is what I found out. And it is kind of shocking. So let's hold on one second. Because I tell you, go take care of that with that let's hold on one second because I tell you, go take care of that with that thing's rolling down the hallway, please. And tell whoever it is what's going on. Super sorry, but sometimes I have to take care of other business.

Okay. So the Catholic Church teaches that the Virgin Mary, and I'm going to read this to you. The Catholic Church teaches that Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory. I pulled this all up. I did not believe it.

But this is what I pulled up and it is actually factually true. At Assumption Day celebrations it is common to artistic depictions of the Virgin Mary to be displayed. The Catholic Church celebrates the solemnity of the Assumption of Mary on August 15th. So this is actual day that is celebrated in the Catholic faith, which just happened. They just celebrated it about, what's today, the 8th?

So they celebrate, and there was 30 days. So they celebrated it like 15 plus 8 is 24, 23, right? 23, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. Yeah, 13, 23 days. So like 23 days ago, they celebrated this. Crazy. Or is it in the Bible? It's not.

This is their doctrine. As with the dogma of her immaculate conception, the dogma of the assumption isn't explicitly stated in Scripture. This was dogmatically defined by Pope Pius VII in 1950 in his Encyclia Manifestamus Duos. I don't know. It's some kind of Greek whatever. This is how it was created, and this is their doctrine behind it, the Catholic way. When he referred to many holy writers who employed statements in various images

and analogies of sacred scriptures to illustrate and to confirm the doctrine of the assumption. He explained that he wasn't manifesting a new doctrine, but rather fulfilling his divine commission to faithfully propose the revelation delivered through the apostles. Where is that in scripture? It is not. The church teaches that the dogma of the assumption was at least implicitly present in scripture and the apostolistic tradition and therefore is a legitimate sign of the protection of the Spirit of Truth. I cannot tell you how many times whatever I was reading to you was in quotes. It's because that's what they are saying, not because that is what Scripture is saying.

And then in the encyclopedia, Pope Pius XII pointed to several Scripture passages that he believed illustrated the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary. Some of them include Psalm 131.8. Now listen to this Scripture. Psalm 131.8, listen to this Scripture, and you see if you see anywhere in it that would even refer to this. Arise, O Lord, into thy resting place, thou and the ark which thou hast sanctified. The spouse of canticles, which is not the Bible. This is the book or the canticles.

I don't know what canticles are, but I believe it's like, is anybody Catholic or grew up Catholic in this joint here? i don't know what canticles are but i believe it's like does is anybody catholic or grew up catholic in this joint here i don't know what canticles are i should have looked it up but it's like they're like they have different books that you read that you follow your catholic faith by i think it's like one of the things like with ccd when you go through ccd you have to read the bible but you also have to go through the different teachings of the Catholic faith and the books that they require you to read from the Catholic faith. And I think this might be one of them, but I'm not 100% sure on that. And it's called The Spouse of Canticles. And in this scripture, Canticles 3.6 says,

That goeth up by the desert as a pillar of smoke of the aromantical spices of myrrh and frankincense so my lovely assistant I'm making up for it you're making up for that that jib jab but amazing to Jen it says what are the canticles in the Bible a non-metrical song used in liturgical worship. Canticles are drawn from biblical texts other than the Psalter. The term is derived from the Latin canticulum, a little song. In practice, canticles are sung or said in worship. There you go.

So they're sung, which is interesting. But again, okay, that makes no sense because even that, that goeth up by the desert as a pillar of smoke of aromatical spices of myrrh and frankincense. Where in the heck do you get Mary being assumed from that? Then Revelation 12, the woman clothed with the sun. They use that. Then Isaiah 61, 13, I will glorify the place of my feet. Then Canticles 8, 5, who is this that cometh up from the desert flowing with delights, leaning upon her beloved? Like that's a lot of assumption to assume that Mary's been assumed.

I mean, I don't know. Okay, for me, it's a whole lot of made up nonsense. You know, we don't worship Mary, we worship Jesus. And I find that in other faiths, like certain

prophets and apostles they're all worship they're called Saints they're called they literally are held in high as high regard or equal to Jesus Christ okay that should never be we don't worship anything other than the Lord Himself God Holy Spirit Jesus Christ that Christ. That's it. That's the only things we worship. If an angel himself is in the presence of someone and the person falls to the ground and the angel says, get up. Like an angel is a heavenly being. An apostle is like you and me, flesh and blood. Like, they did some great things for the Lord, just like all of us should be doing for God.

But they hold no, like, they're no different than you and me. Like, Paul. Paul was just like you and me. People who put him on a pedestal. I mean, we should honor and respect what he did for God when he turned his life around, the message and the lives. I mean, nobody won more people to the Lord than him in the New Testament. None.

So to respect that is one thing, but to worship a man, we're not to do that. It's clear we're not to do that. So this is where all of what we just read about is super dangerous and people who add or subtract to the word will be held accountable. And it's two places in the Bible that is very clear to not add to the word and not subtract from it. If you do, you'll be held to great judgment. Deuteronomy 4.2, and this is New King James Version, says you shall not add to the word which I command you nor take from it,

that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. Revelation 22.18-19 says, and it's a warning. It's literally titled a warning. For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book. And anyone who takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the book of life, from the holy city and from the things that are written in this book.

You're not to add anything to the Bible, subtract anything from the Bible, if that's why we say we're full gospel at this church. We don't make up stuff that fit a narrative to make life easier or better or greater or worse, nothing. We don't, or just make it just easygoing. We don't do anything. If the Bible says yes, then it's yes. If it says no, then it's no.

If it tells you to go here, then you go there. If it goes, you know, whatever it says, that's what we do. And we don't add to it to make life a little easier for someone or less offensive for someone. That's not how it works. Only say what it says. And to make up stuff is very, very dangerous. There is nowhere in the Word of God that Mary was assumed.

And so if you're Catholic today and you're listening to me, you need to study out the Bible and find out if that's true or not for yourself. Just don't take my word for it. Look through the Bible. Find out if what I'm telling you is true. You're going to be very dismayed and very disappointed to find out it's not. But I think when you study it out, your eyes are going to be open to a lot of stuff that maybe you've been taught that's not necessarily in the Bible. And that might be a great start for you in finding truth for yourself. But you know, a lot of denominations, sad but true, and it's not just the Catholic faith, but a lot of denominations don't encourage you to read the Bible for yourself. They actually

discourage you from reading the Bible. And there's reasons for that. You know what we call that? A cult. We get called a cult all the time. This church, which I think is flipping hilarious. And all we do is preach Jesus, preach God, preach the Holy Spirit, and preach to dig into the Word of God. But we're the ones called a cult. Other people that want to allow you to live however you want to live and say you're going to heaven and discourage you from actually reading the Bible but just taking the Word for it, or don't maybe discourage you but don't encourage you, those are the ones I would stay away from. Get in the Bible.

It'll free you from a lot of nonsense. Next question. What types of Bible study do you recommend for new Christians? Listen, I tell you this. We gave a lot of Bibles away at the Beloved, and I might forget one that I told you or I gave away. If I gave away, whatever I gave away at the Beloved Conference is Bibles that I strongly endorse and think people should own. And I'm not just saying, I don't think that you

should just own one of them. I think you should own every single one of them. Like if you saw my house, I have lots of commentaries. Do I pull those books out all the time anymore? No, because what I've done is I've subscribed to different places or certain websites where I can actually go and look up the Greek and Hebrew, the commentaries that I want. Super fast, super convenient. If I want a Matthew Henry, I can go straight there. But then I can see Josephus right next to it, you know. So, like for me, I have the books. I have the commentaries. I don't really use them like I used to because I use my computer,

and I pull and extract that same information off the different websites that I pay to be able to get that information very quickly. But I own many different Bibles. I give away Bibles all the time, personal Bibles that I own. For some reason, I can't for the life of me, the one that I covet the most right now is my stewardship Bible, which I don't own anymore because literally I won that flipping thing at Pittsburgh. I had been wanting that Bible. My husband has two, but he will not share.

He has a King James, and then he has the Amplified. And he'll, like, let me take one with me to, like, the river. But he's always like, make sure you put that thing back. He loves, he treasures them. Pastor Rodney gave them to me, gave them to him. So I don't have one anymore because my first one that I won, I gave it away. And I knew clearly the Holy Spirit. Then that person that I gave it away to ends up and buys me one. Oh, my gosh. I was the happiest thing on the face of the earth.

I ain't going to lie to you. I was like, yippee. I was like, I heard you, Lord. You're rewarding me for giving it away. Well, at the Beloved Conference, clear as day, the Lord told me, give your Bible away to this person. And as easy as it was to give away, it was very hard for me to do it too because I love that Bible.

But obedience is the key and but I'm going to get that Bible back like I'll be able to buy me one but this person I gave it away to I had I had no idea but they couldn't have bought it for themselves I guess so it always works out yep it always works out always be obedient even though I want that Bible I'm very happy to have given it away so here's what i would suggest i would have multiple bibles and multiple different translations i love the new living translation i absolutely positively love it i love the amplified i love niv um most of these most of these and i'm telling you they've gone woke to a certain degree so you're gonna have to be careful new king james is out of all of them the best of the best because

it's the closest thing to how the bible was actually written king james is the closest but i get all tangled up with them these thousand dusts yeah you too too oh yeah um so if i was to get a Bible, these are the Bibles that I would get for studying. Okay. I would get Pastor Rodney's stewardship Bible. Now I'm not telling you some of these, like his Bible is $500. Okay. And you go, that's a lot of money. Okay. How much do you pay for a direct TV every month? Just let me like, come on. How much do you pay for DirecTV every month? Just let me, like, come on. How much do you pay? I mean, do you go and get a coffee every day?

How much do you pay for this flipping thing a month? We go, $500 for a Bible? Well, I say, well, you spend, that thing is worth way more than $500 if you look at the value and how life-changing it can be for you in comparison to this thing and you have no no qualms about spending money a month on that or even like I just shocks me sometimes when people are like taken aback by what about what a Bible costs his Bible is a stewardship Bible so what it does is it highlights everything from the promises of God

down to financial prosperity and blessings. Everything that was purchased on that cross is highlighted for you. And it's such the quality. I don't think I've ever held a Bible in my hands that has got as much quality in the workmanship of it. Because everything he does is always excellent. He doesn't do anything halfway. So the leather is like, I think it's goat skin or something.

It is top of the line. Oh, my gosh. It feels beautiful. Then if you look at the pages like the pages are so like nice that like i know the books of the bible but i can turn so quickly past the book that i'm going to because how first of all i don't like this part about it but the books of the bible are not on the side they're in the middle, which makes it a little difficult to find it because you have to literally open up the whole thing to make sure. But the pages are so nice and

thin and quality. I mean, it's such a great Bible. Perry Stone, if you're a new believer and you really want to know the history of what you believe and why you believe it, Old Testament, New Testament, it's irrelevant. It'll give you an Eastern mindset of Christianity. Because even though it's Christianity, Jesus was a Jew. So it gives you the foundational understanding. In some cases, it's more than foundational, but it's all, it's all you can, I mean, it's written in a way, it's simple stupid. I mean, seriously, he writes it in a way that simple stupid can completely

understand. And it's not complicated. It's broken down phenomenally. And if you want to want to get dig deep and understand why you believe what you believe, but in an Eastern mindset, because we all look at the Bible in a Western mindset. Jesus did not live in America, people. He did not. And we look at him like he did. And how they do things over in the Eastern world versus how we do things night and day. And it's still night and day to this day in many areas over there.

Like you go over there and you're a little shocked. It's a little backwards in some ways. But Perrystone, so I would, those are my two, just knocked over the fan, guys, sorry. I would say Perry Stone and Pastor Rodney's Bibles. Perry Stone's Bibles, I think, cost you a little less than $300. Quality's not as nice, but it's an excellent Bible. It's really, really good. So Thompson Chain Bible, you can get that in a New King James and NIV.

That's a great Bible, and you can get that in a New King James and NIV. That's a great Bible. You can buy that, and that varies in prices because you can get it hardcover to leather. And the leather, we were gifted two Bibles from the River Baltimore. They're a phenomenal pastor and his wife, and they're both pastors, but they gifted two Thompson chains. We gave them away to our staff, but they're top quality. So you can get a really nice Bible. I think it was like less than $300 for the Thompson chain, nice quality. That's an excellent, excellent Bible.

Chuck Swindoll. How many of you guys know who Chuck Swindoll is? I know Logan doesn't. Do you know who Chuck Swindoll is? Okay. Chuck Swindoll. Phenomenal. Funny, phenomenal pastor, writer, author. I mean, he has some great books, great books, but he has a really good Bible. And I would get that one in the New Living Translation. And it's like, it's got great reviews, but, and you can buy that in different ways too. Not to, it has different varying ways you can buy it, hardcover, whatever, leather. But what's great about him is he breaks down the Gospels too, or breaks down the Scriptures as well.

But he's funny. So everybody's different in how they do it, but he also has study portions in his Bible as well. So if it talks about a specific subject, he's going to break that down for you, and he's going to maybe use some of his preaching or teaching notes on that topic. And so you have better understanding of it too. That's really what reading the Bible is all about. It's not just reading it. It's understanding what you're reading and digging deeper into those scriptures. And once you start doing that, there is absolutely no way you'll say the Bible is boring.

The only reason the Bible is hard to understand or it's boring to you is because you're just reading it. You're not studying it. Once you start studying it, you almost can't put it down. It's very true. And the more you have different Bibles that you're using, the deeper knowledge and revelation you get because these pastors, they know the word in different ways because God has given them revelation in different ways. So they're going to – a lot of it will sometimes be – the base of it will be the same, but they'll take you to different places

as far as revelation goes on that particular verse or whatever that one won't go. He'll go in one direction. He'll go in one direction. He'll go another, go in another direction. And you'll sit there and go, oh my gosh, this is amazing. But it'll all be foundationally the same. Okay. So those are the ones I would stick to.

I think I'm missing the Dakes is phenomenal. Lots of people love that. I gave that away. But that is very, very helpful in breaking down the scriptures and doing monumental study. And if you ever want to know about him, I just learned about him and particularly about who he was, where he started from, from childhood to adulthood. It's amazing. This man is amazing. So sometimes you need to find out, like, if you're going to read somebody's Bible, you might want to know about who they are. Because I think that it adds value and legitimacy to their scriptures and what they believe in.

Andrew Womack, I love Andrew Womack very, very much, and he has a Bible, but I wouldn't suggest you get his Bible. And the reason why I wouldn't suggest that is because he leans more Calvinist, which is eternally secure. He actually used to be where you could lose your salvation, but it took a long period of time for that to happen, which is not what the Word of God says. It clearly says if you live like this, you'll not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Not if you live like this over an extended period of time. It says if you live like this.

And this is one of my biggest disputes with him. I love him. He's one of my favorite teachers, like, ever. I love him. But, like, everybody that you listen to or you learn from, there's absolutely no one that you're going to agree with 100% of the time. I say this all the time. I live with Tom and there are things that he and I, not biblically speaking, but probably biblically speaking, but we're not the same human being. So he's going to see things one way. I'm going to see him another, and that's okay. You can still exist together and learn from one another.

And if you don't agree on something, you just say, okay, I'm not agreeing with you on that, but that doesn't change anything. That's how I say with Andrew Womack. There's certain things, and not very much, but there are certain things, and that's one big one that we don't agree on. But there is so much that we do. And he is a wealth of knowledge and prosperity and healing and the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit. He gets it right. He knocks it out of the daggum park on it. There's maybe one or two things that he and I don't, I think I can listen. It's the 80-20 plan. That's what me and Tom always say. 80-20.

If you can agree with somebody 80% of the time, then don't worry about the 20% that you don't. Unless they say that there is no hell, there is no heaven, or that there's more than one way to Jesus. I mean, which is coming. But as long as they're not preaching things like that, you're okay. Do you guys want to add any Bibles that you think are really great that I might have missed? Because everybody, I mean, I might have missed one, and I don't know all of them. Yeah, no, I agree with the ones that you said. I don't have the Perry Stone, but what I've seen from it, what you showed me, I think is awesome.

Pastor Rodney's Bible is great. And then we have the Dake Bible that we really like to go back to and reference from. That one's really good. I really like that one. But yeah, that's mine. If you won every, like, how many Bibles did I give away? Oh my gosh, so many. Like five different Bibles? Oh, my gosh. Like, five different Bibles. Oh, like the different types.

Yeah, we gave a lot away. Five different Bibles that we gave away every night or every service. Make sure you're using it. Don't just, like, have won it and then you put it away. Because there's somebody else. If you won it, God wanted you to win that sucker. And if you just put it on a shelf and you don't use it, there's somebody else that would have gladly loved that thing and didn't get it.

So make sure that you, like, do use it. Yeah. Because you were blessed when somebody else would have gladly taken it. And there were lots of people who wanted those. Yes. Yeah. That was a big hit. Huh. That was a big hit. Huh? That was a big hit. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing is, is this, you can give away,

I mean, I, for me, I was like, I could buy a bunch of the baskets and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, the word never returns void. Like what somebody can gain from reading the Bible versus me giving them a basket. Baskets end, and sometimes you don't even use them. It's true. You might not use the Bible either, but my odds are very high that you will. But what you gain from reading that Bible is life transforming. What you gain from me giving you a basket or a purse, it's seasonal.

Eventually the purse is going to go out of trend and season, and then you won't use it anymore the Bible never stops one piece of advice you gave your listeners that I took home with me is start with the Gospels and it just helps you remember and repeat from different points of view

so I did that is that what you started doing? where did you start in Genesis? every new believer starts in Genesis and works, I think. I've started in Genesis 110 times. Me too. It's very hard because... The names.

All right, all right. I've even tried to write the names down, but I skip all over the place. Like this morning, I read, studied all of Jude. Yesterday was Lamentations. You know what, too, is a really good, like, and I didn't do this in this set, but I toyed with it, is a great chronological Bible. I've tried to look for those. No, they're there.

Listen, a great chronological Bible is phenomenal. Yes, it is. They're really good. It'll blow your mind because you think, it's like, I always use this example, but you think Job was like how many in, right? Job was actually with Genesis. Most people don't know it. But when you put it all in that perspective of chronologically how things happened, that is just as mind blowing as understanding things in the Bible in an Eastern mindset. Yeah. Yeah. And like how long like people's lives as understanding things in the Bible in an Eastern mindset.

Yeah, yeah. And, like, how long, like, people's lives overlapped in the Old Testament, too. Like, that was mind-blowing to me because you kind of forget, like, who was alive when Adam was alive or, like, you know, Moses was alive. Like, it's so interesting when you can, like, research it. Yeah, well, and the thing is, is, like, people think that, like, how could Moses know what happened when Adam was alive? Well, because Adam lived 960-some-odd years, or 64 or something.

He lived 900-some-odd years. So he had a long time to talk about history, right? Generation, generation, generation. So all of that transpired and passed on noah noah's grandfather was methuselah i believe so which was part of the lineage obviously of adam methuselah would have had to tell noah right and then it goes on so it's not hard i mean we all i mean i know about my family's history so So like for Moses to write Genesis is not difficult to understand or believe because first of all, it's God inspired and God

probably gave him information. Didn't probably, God did give him information. But on top of that, he also knew because he had family members who had told him so we all like know about our family history because grandparents talk and they tell us they inform us and um it just carries on stories carry on at least good families do that i mean i my parent my grandparents my great great grandparents i i was alive with great great grandparents and i remember them telling us stories about the depression about growing up like that growing about their grandparents yeah about what life was like for them i mean it's it's pretty interesting you know no electric for crying out loud what life was like with that i mean yeah i can't imagine so no thank you it's it's it's pretty amazing. But a good Bible will change your life radically like never before.

It'll blow your mind. Next question. Is the fulfillment of Scripture that Jesus would be born of the house and lineage of David through Mary's bloodline or Joseph's bloodline? This is a great question. If you don't know the Bible very well and how it breaks down, this is a really good question. There's a lot of people who are probably watching. They're like, well, that's a silly question. It's not a silly question if you're a new believer or you've never really opened the Bible and don't understand it. If you already knew

this answer, kudos to you. Kudos to you. You're farther along than a lot of Christians are. But for whoever wrote this, thank you for writing it, because you're going to open a lot of people's eyes that have no idea. You were just brave enough to ask the question. Matthew 1, 12 through 17 says, And after they were brought to Babylon, Jeconiah begot. And listen, like I said at the Beloved Conference, I almost would rather speak in tongues than say all these names because it would sound a lot closer than

what actually I'm about to do. I'm going to slaughter a lot of names. In fact, I'm just going to say maybe the first letter. I don't know. And Sheetal. I mean, who names these people's names? The parents had to hate them. It's so hard. What happened to Tom? Had to hate them. What happened to Jerry?

Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Begot Zerubbabel. Zerubbabel begot Abuid. Or Ebud. Whatever. Begot Elkiem. Elkiem begot Azar. Azar begot Zadok. This is where it gets interesting. Then begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Joseph, the husband of Mary, whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. And now everybody goes, it's got to be Joseph.

But Joseph only married her. So how can he be in the bloodline? Because there's no blood with Joseph, because he did not consummate with Mary, Jesus, correct? You're like, that's not going to work. So all the generations from Abraham to David are 14 generations from David until the captivity in Babylon are 14 generations. So this is nothing to do with what we're talking about, but this is where God is just, he's amazing. So all the generations from Abraham to David are 14 years.

And from David until captivity in Babylon are 14 generations. And from captivity to Babylon until Christ are 14 years. Is that amazing? 14, 14, 14. It's not scattered. It's not all over the place. It's consistent. Let's look at Luke 3, 23 through 24, the genealogy of Jesus Christ.

Now, Jesus himself, and I cut some of this off. Like, it's a lot longer, but I'm sparing you people from what Logan hates a lot of names and begots. Now, Jesus's the thing. I'm going to read something to you. Like, if you study scripture out, this is part of what you will study out so that you have an understanding of genealogy as well as many other things in the Bible. But I want you to realize something, that back in biblical times, they kept bloodlines pure. So just like Abraham and Sarah, which was Abram and Sarai, they were brother and sister, okay?

Half brother and sister. They shared the same dad, but two different mothers. So Abraham and Sarah were siblings to each other. Half. Bloodlines were pure. Just like every single time from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. All of them went back to the same tribe, the same families. They married family members. They did.

Okay, you would say, well, why aren't they all jacked up like people from Kentucky or from West Virginia? Well, I don't know. Okay, but that's our God. So I'm just saying, they all marry family members like people from Kentucky and West Virginia do sometimes. Are you from West Virginia, Jared? Oh, I know Logan's from Kentucky. No, I'm not. She's from New York.

Just kidding. She moved here from Kentucky. But Chris is. And Jer's from West Virginia, so that's even funnier. Jer's from West Virginia. That makes a lot of sense. But they married family members, right? So this is no different.

Joseph and Mary were family. They were actually cousins. Okay? They were second cousins. So really, they hold the same bloodline. So it was irrelevant that Joseph is in the bloodline of David because guess what? So was Mary because they both have, they are family of each other. That's why it's a really good question because a lot of people don't know it.

So we're going to get into this. Bloodlines were important. Keeping things pure was important. They always married family or in the same tribe. That's why like when Samson went outside of the tribe and married women, and Solomon, they didn't like that. It was a big fat no-no to go and marry outside of your community. You were not allowed to do it.

And usually it was family. That's what you did. So Joseph's father and Mary's father were cousins. That's the truth. Eli, or Heli, took a wife. So listen to what I say. Took a wife and died without children. And then Jacob, and I only told you about the lineage so you understand who I'm talking about right now.

Then Jacob took her to wife to raise up seed to his brother according to the command of the law. Because if you lost a spouse, then you had to take the wife. You had to make that person that if the husband died and you were able to, you took on their wife. So that's what Jacob did. That's why it says according to the command of the law. And he begat her and he begat by her Joseph, Joseph, the Joseph of Mary. That's the reason why I say to you, like, you just can't read the Bible, people. You have to understand. That's why I say Perry Stone's Bible is very, like, instrumental. Because you have to understand Jewish culture, Jewish teachings, Jewish law, Eastern mindset, Eastern culture. If you did, all of that would make complete sense to you.

But if you don't know it, you're like, what the heck? What's going on here? That was the command of the law. You had to do that. And he begat by her Joseph, who was the son of Jacob, according to nature, but the son of Heli, according to the law. So whichever you choose, whether according to nature or according to the law, Christ is found to be the son of David.

It is moreover right to know that Eleazar begat two sons, Matan and Jotham. Matan begat Jacob, and Jacob begat Joseph. Jotham begat Zadok, and Zadok begat Mary. So Jacob and Zadok are relatives, right? From that it is clear that Joseph's father and Mary's father were cousins. So that's why they are both. And then it goes on to say, Matan was the grandfather of the virgin mary and she and joseph were also second cousins so that's why it's super important to know the bible

understand it and also to know that joseph was from the line of david but so was mary they both shared the bloodline leading to king david which is what in Isaiah it talked about, that the Son, not the Son of Man, but the Savior would come, and he would be from royalty, and the royalty is from King David. So there you go. How did I do, girls? That's very interesting. I didn't know that. You didn't know that?

Mm-mm. So she's not very far in her Christian walk either. I'm not. I'm just kidding. Yes, I'm struggling. Actually, you are far along. Sometimes people just don't know those things. But that's why literally no question should,

like if you have a question, you should ask because there's a lot of people that don't know that answer. I had no idea about Joseph. Okay, put yourself on. Okay. Because when I ask you, I want people to see your face. Like when you say you had no idea about Joseph. Okay. Put yourself on. Okay. Because when I ask you, I want people to see your face. Like, when you say you had no idea about Joseph, meaning that Joseph was the bloodline from David, did you always assume Mary was the bloodline from David?

Oh, yeah. I knew that. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense to me. No idea about Joseph. No idea they were second cousins. No clue.

I had no idea. But I'm not surprised either because of the way everything else was. Well, it's not surprising that Jesus and John the Baptist are cousins. Yeah. Right? Right. A lot of people don't know that. Right. Both of them the same age, six months apart.

Right. Right? Yep. A lot of the apostles or disciples are all family. Yep. And the reason they're all family they're all basically from canaan they're all from the same areas yep um it's it's pretty interesting it's not surprising that andrew was john the baptist disciple before he was jesus's disciple right john the baptist is

basically the one that told andrew go follow him yeah his sandals i'm not fit to tell you even untie go follow him because john John the Baptist knew who Jesus was. And Andrew, I mean, that's a bold thing. Yeah. That's a bold thing. And then Andrew becomes second fiddle because Peter is number one.

Yeah. It's good. He's in the top three, but Andrew's the one that brought his own brother. It goes back to David and Jonathan. Jonathan should have been the heir to the throne. David is the one that took it. Jonathan loved him in spite of it.

If you study the scriptures out, you will always find out how you should respond into any and every situation that you're put into. Because there is something in the Bible that has transpired that you're walking through. Somebody has lived it out and displayed it perfectly. And if they didn't display it perfectly, you find out it was the wrong way to do it, and you fix it, and you don't follow it the way. Because the Bible tells you, don't do it that way. But a lot of people think it's just a boring book. It's not a boring book no not at all it'll change your life not at all but it's pretty interesting like if you study out the disciples

yeah yeah yeah yeah like they were uh they were a wild bunch they were and it goes to and when I say they were a wild bunch on the ground and as soon as she did i kid you not our electric just totally went out which is i'm blaming her but in the meantime it gave me gave me a few minutes to get some fruit snacks get some energy sorry about that we have no idea why it must have been a power surge or something like that but it actually happened. I'm not kidding you. When Talia laid down on the ground on the carpet, the electric totally went out.

So we blame her. She thought, did I do that? She was like, did I do that? Now, you don't have that much power, sister. Not yet. You're working on it, though. She's got the power. All right, last question because we left and there was 10 minutes left,

and I do want to cover a couple things. So the last question I'm going to cover today is this one. So I'm going to read the whole thing. First part's not going to make a lot of sense, but it will eventually. It says, I know this isn't a question, but I just wanted to pass on uplifting information. So I'm catching up on the podcast since we were away on vacation. Just got to Fridays with the special guest, which would be Natalie. Natalie was the nurse practitioner who is now with We The People Healthcare. And this person was saying as Hope was just starting to introduce her and mentioned that she was in a parallel healthcare system,

I got that Holy Spirit chill. I had passed on information to my wife about a week ago about We The People Healthcare. She had already called to set up an appointment for a visit and I scrolled to the comments to see that this was what we would be discussed on on the podcast God knows what he's doing and absolutely God knows does know what he's doing that's outside of the masturbation podcast that we had Natalie's was actually my next highest number Natalie's podcast it's true yeah so listen if you I only say that because I agree with that question that, and it's not a question, but, uh, obviously we had a large number of people watching because

it's a serious issue in this country and we have got to, um, we've got to support and we have to start thinking about different ways of doing things because this country is in is is not going in a great direction but we are the restraining and if other places like this rise up and make a stand and say we're not following what you're saying and we're going to create a parallel economy, then it stops and it quells the evil that's trying to go on right now. But in order for us to have a parallel system, we have to support it. So if you have not done so and you are looking for medical care the old-fashioned way where it's not protocols but it's actually someone sitting down with you spending

some time with you going over your history listen we're a faith people like Natalie she's a Christian she's faith-based individual she's going to support you in a carnal way which I when I say carnal I mean like in a physical sense but she's spiritually going to meet the need as well because she's going to look at things and and speak to you in a spiritual way what you know like my my doctor prayed with me my sister's doctor prayed with me. My sister's doctor prayed with her when we had our kids and stuff. That doesn't happen anymore. A lot of doctors aren't allowed to do that.

We need to get back to that faith-based things like this. And so do we have anything? It's on the screen. Are you looking it up? It's on the screen. It's on the screen. It's been on the screen the whole time. So you're so great.

Listen, Natalie Iverson, she's a nurse practitioner. There's a doctor there. There's a dermatologist. There is a pediatrician, family health. Get in touch with them. Make an appointment. You will not be disappointed by the care you receive, but we need to get back to, we need to, we need to set some things straight

and get some wrongs in the right way. And we need to resist and we need to stand up. And the only way that happens is if we, the people make it happen. So I, I put that question in there on purpose. It's not really a question. It's more about a affirmation of what we need to do. And I wanted to reiterate, like Natalie did a phenomenal job on that podcast. You could clearly see she knows what she's talking about, but you will receive great care. She's actually my family's doctor. She's other people in this church's doctor, and I can't say enough great things about her. The next thing I want to bring up to you is today, my husband turned me on to this, like, and then Norm Norman was talking to me about it because she's been watching it like

crazy. So today, I was like, I'm going to revisit this. But Jesse Duplantis has a great, if you don't listen to his teachings, you're crazy. First of all, he's a phenomenal preacher, like off the charts, phenomenal faith-based preacher. When I say faith-based, I don't mean just faith as in prosperity, faith and healing, things like that. People, when we speak of faith, faith can mean different things. You have to have faith in your salvation. You have to have faith in your healing. You have to have faith in your finances. There's so many different things that you walk out in faith in. So when we say we're a faith-based church or he preaches a faith-based message, it encompasses the word of God because the word of God is faith, a faith-based message. It's not one that is willy-nilly and that

just come what may or will God or will he not? We don't know if he will, but if he does, it's not that. That's not what the Word of God teaches or preaches. So I tell you he's a faith-based preacher because he teaches everything that the Word preaches. But will you put that up for me? So Jesse DePlantis has a great teaching on heaven. It's phenomenal. It's actually a time when he went and visited heaven. Now how he starts this. Now I love, he has an older version that my husband watched and I watched too. I love that one. But this is when he was a young man, younger

man. And he teaches, it's basically the same message, but I like it because he's a very funny, like he's very funny. He's a joy to listen to because he brings laughter into it. But this one I just listened to and I was laughing, but I was crying. Like my daughter was a ball of tears this week when she listened to it. Not because of sadness, because of what God has in store for us. How great is it that something that you can't touch, have an experience with outside of you putting it out there. God never forces himself on us, but he is always waiting and willing for each and every single one of us

to embrace him, to receive him, and want a relationship with him. And even though he sits and he waits for us, he has a place prepared for us that is in so much that Jesse DePlantis cannot even describe it. I mean, he does great. He goes to great measures in order for us to have a glimpse. But even he says, there's no description of it. It's an amazing experience.

Every Christian should listen to it. And if you're not a Christian and you're not a believer, I really, that's one of the reasons why I, you have to listen to it to the very, very end, especially if you're not a believer. Because it'll speak to you. Like, it'll speak to you. So I had Tracy pull this up because I want to encourage everybody,

take some time out this weekend before church on Sunday. Go and listen to this message because when you walk into church on Sunday, you're going to have a whole new outlook on worshiping the Lord, receiving from the Lord. And if you're not saved, if you don't listen to this and walk away and want to be saved or get your life right immediately, I will be shocked because there is no way you can turn down what God has in store for us. It's amazing that something that didn't have to love us would love us so much and prepare a place for us that no mind can even conceive.

No eye has seen, no mind can understand. It'll blow your mind. It really will. So take some time. There's the QR code, but worst case scenario, type in Jesse's plant is heaven. That's the picture that you're going to see very similar to, is that this picture they're going to see? That's the picture. And we have links in all of the social media too. So they can just click the link. Okay. So if they they it's about an hour and a half yeah who doesn't have an hour and a half time come on we waste our time on so much nonsense so much nonsense you got an hour and a half to watch that it's life-changing you'll not regret it if you don't know him today i sincerely and i don't and i mean this sincerely we lost

we lost like five minutes so i probably don't have that many people watching, but I don't care because guess what? It's not about who's watching live right now. I have way more people who watch this podcast not in real time but hit the replay by a lot, way more, a lot than live, which I love all of you that are watching live. I need you, but most people can't watch me in real time. It's three o'clock in the afternoon. So, and I get that, but somebody might stumble upon me right now and know that they need to get their life right, or you've been saved and you need to come back. And if that's you, I strongly encourage you to

say this prayer with me right now. Let's get her done, and then you can have the best beginning of the weekend. Friday's great, but when you're saved and you have Jesus in your life, like, I don't need the weekend. The weekend's great, but I don't need the weekend. It's pretty darn good every day. Say this prayer with me. Heavenly Father, I thank you for what you did on the cross.

I thank you for dying for my sins. I want to live for you. I ask you to forgive me of my sins. I repent and will go the opposite direction from this day forward I ask you to be the Lord of my life I ask you Lord to give me the purpose and plan you have for me and I will fulfill it from this point on every day

until I come to heaven in Jesus mighty name we pray amen it is super simple it's as easy as that now get in the Bible until I come to heaven. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen. It is super simple. It's as easy as that. Now, get in the Bible. You know, everybody will say that Jesus says,

come as you are. He does say, come as you are. But then after you receive him, he expects you to become who he's called you to be. And the word is filled with that. And that's what you're going to have to learn. And you can continue to watch this podcast, which will help you out. Find a phenomenal church. If you live in the area, then you just come to this church. It will disciple you into becoming all that God has for you. And then you'll start making little disciples yourself.

Have a great weekend. Thank you so much for tuning in and coming back. For those of you who came back because we got totally, I don't know, what do you call that? Dropped. We got dropped. Dropped. We got electrocuted or electrified, whatever.

Thank you for coming back. Have a great weekend, and I appreciate you watching. Bye. Real Talk. electrified, whatever. Thank you for coming back. Have a great weekend and I appreciate you watching. Bye.