The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E72 | 09-22-23

Episode Date: September 23, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E72 | 09-22-23...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Sorry about that. Let me just say this. I was about to say we're the most unprofessional podcast that there We're here. Let me just say this. I was about to say we're the most unprofessional podcast that there is out there, but truthfully, I'm the most unprofessional podcast host ever out there.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Cleaning my teeth before we came on. It's real. Yeah. Real talk. And then I was looking at Heather because Heather started laughing at me because I think she thinks, did you see me cleaning my teeth, Heather? Yeah. Yeah, that's the reason why.
Starting point is 00:00:48 So I'm looking at her and then you caught me looking at her. And now I've become even more unprofessional because I'm discussing this with you. So let's go. I am unprofessional, but I still want you to like, share, and tap that bell and subscribe. Am I getting better at it? That's good. Listen, I don't know social media. I'm hardly on that sucker.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm in and I'm out. You know, I don't go on very often. But I still need you. So if you're a social media freak or nut, you're mine right now. Please, Facebook, Blackrobe, YouTube, Rumble. Rumble's the big one, right? Yeah. Rumble's the big one. Please, like and share, like and share, like and share.
Starting point is 00:01:36 And comment. Because every time you comment, you up my numbers. Otherwise, I'm going to have Logan just sit there and put smiley faces constantly. Let's just tap a smiley face as a comment to make my numbers go up. What happens to make the numbers go up because of your comment? Explain that, please. Well, it's more the interaction. Hey, can you pull your mic to your mouth, please? What? Can you pull your mic up a little bit?
Starting point is 00:02:01 I think you said it. Yeah, I know. Can you fix it for me? You're the best. Yes, it's all my fault. Right there? Yeah, that's better I think you said it. Yeah, I know. Can you fix it for me? You're the best. Yes, it's all my fault. Right there? Yeah, that's better. Thank you so much. Okay, it sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, so when people are commenting. Okay, can you put your mic? Yes, yes. Here I come. We're coming. I know you don't want to be seen for some reason. No, I want to be seen. Okay, when you comment, first of all, we get to engage with you.
Starting point is 00:02:20 We know who's watching because we don't always know who's watching. But also, just the algorithm, if it shows that there's lots of activity going on then the ai side of facebook is like oh something's popular here and so it will just be higher in the news feed okay so that's scary ai yeah but that's just how everything kind of works. Let me just tell you this. Tracy and Jared are probably going to be harding this all over a comment if he's on right now. But literally, you look the same as you did when we worked out this morning.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I hate you. Thank you. I have to wear a hat today because it ain't pretty underneath there, guys. They all said it doesn't look bad, but it's not good. And I curled the ends and we're calling it a day. And I'm ready for war, people. I'm ready for war.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Ready for war. Like, you need something hunted down, I'll kill it. I'm camouflaged today. I am. I'm ready to kill, steal, and destroy whatever's necessary. Hey, I got a question. I'm dressed for success. Somebody asked me a question today.
Starting point is 00:03:28 What is that? Somebody asked me a question today. If you were driving down the road and all of a sudden there are people standing in the way protesting, what would you do in that scenario with your warrior stuff on? Were they asking me to answer this question or were they asking you to answer this question? I'm just like asking hope.com. No, they asked you that question, or were they asking you to answer this question? I'm curious, like, askinghope.com. No, they asked you that question, so let's ask you that question. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:03:51 I might have said that, and I need to hang out with Logan a little bit more, and I want to start carrying on me, and I might just, like, step on the gas. I'd run him over. That's what Jera said. I'd run him over. But, like, I thought maybe you could just, like, shoot him in the leg. No. Maybe just, like, shoot him in the leg. No. Maybe just, like, shoot him in the foot.
Starting point is 00:04:07 No. If you are protesting and if I – listen, I'm just saying this. No questions asked. I've even told – we've even told our kids because people are crazy now. If a protest is blocking a road and if I am moving at about 35 miles an hour, I'm not slowing down. If I slow down to 35 miles an hour and you don't park the C, I'm parting you in half. Something's going and it ain't going to be me. No way. See, that's the reason people people always when they when they when they slow down they're thinking that people think like they do like
Starting point is 00:04:51 meaning that i'm dealing with a sensible reasonable individual here okay you're not so it with that thought process think about are these people potentially going to do me bodily harm? If they're willing to stand in front of a road, they really don't care about their life, right? So what makes you think they care about yours? They don't. So for me, I'm running you over. If you don't get out of the way, sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:24 That's not my fault. Yeah, yeah I know I don't feel bad like this world's crazy why are you laughing that's my path cuz I'm harsh that's our new thing uh-huh I know people think that that's so mean and hard but I'm like how is it not that it's the other person laying in the road is it my fault right when they're the ones that instigated or made the made that end result happen cause and effect yeah if you caused it then don't be mad about the person who has the true end result what she's saying yeah it just drives me crazy like the always blame the person that responds to the action as if the person that responded the action is so evil but what about the person that caused the action where is their responsibility in it they never if they never did it yeah
Starting point is 00:06:17 then nothing would have ever happened it's like we live in a brain-dead society. True. That's why innocent people who are protecting their homes and their families and their vehicles are considered vigilantes and are going to jail. Right. Truth. Truth bomb. Mm-hmm. I don't know what it is about this camo. I know. I was just going to say that.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Or this Red Bull. I mean. I don't know. But this girl. Yeah. Pump this Red Bull. I mean. I don't know. But this girl. Yeah. Pump, pump, pump it up. You remember that song? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:51 All righty. That's good. All right. I got to tone her down. So please like and share. Or I might run you over. Exactly. Please like and share.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Be a friend, not an enemy. What? Be a friend of hope, not an enemy. Yeah, that's right. That's right, girls. Unless, like, some people don't want to share because, like, that conversation right there might cause some major issues. Okay. But truth hurts.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Whether they realize it's truth or not. Galena said, oops, I hit a speed bump. How would I say this about Galena? Makes sense. No, because Galena, well, it does, because Galena thinks like me. Yeah. Like, she is, I don't know if she's Russian or Ukrainian. I really don't care. She's Russian. I don't care. Ukrainian. I don't care which, she is, I don't know if she's Russian or Ukrainian. And I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:07:45 She's Russian. I don't care. Ukrainian. Ukrainian. I don't care which one she is. Yeah. She's the Ukrainian hope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 In so many, in a young way. She is. Like, in so many ways. Like, sometimes the things that she says, I'm like, dear God. That's me. I love her. Yeah. You can take that as a compliment or a really bad insult.
Starting point is 00:08:08 True. Whichever way, I don't care. Whichever one you want. It's truth. Okay, first question. Let's roll. Sorry if this was already addressed in a previous podcast, but when I go up for prayer and have Pastor Tom Lee hands on me,
Starting point is 00:08:23 does this mean I have unbelief? I pray for myself and ask God for what I want, but I always take advantage of the opportunity to have Pastor Tom pray for me anyways. I've been told it's unbelief because when I pray myself, it's done. Why would we go up for prayer and it's done? And that's a question mark. I'm still new to this life with Christ, and I want to be guided by powerful people he works through. See, I totally get that. To me, it makes complete sense that, especially if you're a new believer, that you would go up and have hands laid on you because only you know if you have doubt and unbelief. Only you know if you have doubt and unbelief. Only you know that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Nobody can say, and here's the thing. When I say only you know if you have doubt and unbelief, that's if you're honest with yourself. What a lot of people do is they'll tell somebody, people come to you and they'll talk to you about their situation. And in that conversation, when they're talking about that situation, you'll give them the word. And then they'll say, but. That but is doubt and unbelief. So they are expressing to you that they actually do have a doubt and belief, but they either don't have the
Starting point is 00:09:38 revelation knowledge of it, or they're in denial. In this case, what I would say to you is you've not said one thing in this paragraph that makes me believe you have doubt and unbelief. What you've been is quite honest about yourself that you're new. And although you've already prayed over it, you want to stand in agreement with somebody that you believe also walks in the authority and belief that you do as well. So let's look at some Bible scriptures because what I'm going to do is, the person that says that it's doubt and unbelief for you, they might be right. I'm not saying that they are. Maybe you've said something to them that you haven't said in this paragraph, right?
Starting point is 00:10:22 So they're trying to help you understand that there is doubt and unbelief but even if there is doubt and unbelief the word is clear about what you're doing when you have somebody standing in agreement with you if you're going up to have prayer or whatever and have Tom lay hands on you or whoever it's biblical okay so Matthew 18 19 through 20 says again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there in the midst of them. So truthfully, it's biblical what you do.
Starting point is 00:11:05 If you come up every Sunday and you're believing for something specific, and it could be the same thing every week, and you're just saying, I'm not being moved. I am standing on this until I see the result. I'm wanting Tom, whether I verbalize it to him what I'm standing on, he's standing it because when he walks around, he already tells people, I'm going to stand in agreement with you. When I lay hands on you, I may say just one word, but just know I'm standing in agreement with you on whatever you're believing for.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. That's exactly what that just said in Matthew. That's what Jesus said, right? So you're doing biblically what the word says to do. That's not doubt and a belief. That's doing a biblical principle James 5 14 through 15 says is anyone among you sick let him call for the elders of the church and let them pray over him anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord and the prayer of faith will save the sick and the Lord will raise him up and if he is committed since he will be forgiven so even in this scripture it tells someone if they're sick,
Starting point is 00:12:05 if they're believing for healing, to go to the elders of the church, which is elders is plural, meaning more than one. So it's okay for you to go and have people pray over you. An elder is actually considered a pastor. It's also considered a board member. It's somebody who is a deacon, things like that. So there's nothing wrong with that. I will tell you, like Tom and I, basically almost every day we pray together. We pray over specific things and he prays over them by himself. I pray over the same things by myself, but every day then we come together and we pray over those things specifically together too. So, and it's not because we have doubt and unbelief, but there's just strength in numbers. We are combining our faith and we're bringing it to pass. We're going to stand in unity. We're two or more together. We're just using that scripture when we do it. It's not because we
Starting point is 00:13:00 have doubt and unbelief. It's just, we're a unit. We're a team. So we're going to stand together as a unit and a team. And listen, I'm not saying that husbands and wives, by the way, have to pray together or anything like that. There have been years that Tom and I haven't done it. And then there's been periods of time that we have. So I'm not saying that if you and your spouse, if you're married or if you and a friend, whatever, do it or don't do it. Who cares? I'm just saying that it's okay for you to have somebody else come alongside of you and believe with you. So, I mean, listen, let's ask you guys. How many of you guys pray with your spouses every day?
Starting point is 00:13:39 I mean, pretty much I have not done it consistently all my life, being married. But there have been pockets where we have. Do you pray every day? Not every day. Not every day. You do every day. And you don't. See, Heather, do you do it every day?
Starting point is 00:13:53 See, Heather doesn't do it either. So I'm saying if you're single and Tom's the reason you're praying with Tom is because you don't have and you want to do that, don't listen to anybody. If you have a spouse and someday you guys decide to pray together, or maybe you do right now, it's no different. Like what I'm saying is no different if you and your spouse are believing for the same things. It's not doubt and unbelief. It's standing in agreement and taking it by force. For me, I look at prayer and things that I'm trying to take on in my house, spiritually speaking, I go after them with a vengeance.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I do not sit idly by and just take it. I, like, take it by force. And that's really what we're supposed to do. We're not just supposed to be lackadaisical in what we're believing for. We're supposed to go after it. And that's how you see results. But a lot of times people are kind of like laissez-faire with wherever they are at, whether it be sickness, health, sickness, wealth, like if they're financially needing things.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They all are kind of like, I believe in you, Lord. No, you need to go after it. Satan's trying to steal from you. He's trying to take from you. So he's not like laissez-faire, let me tell you. He's going after it. You need to be too. That's why it says we are in a war.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It is spiritual warfare. Warfare is not relaxed. Warfare is not where you're sitting by a fire and you're just warming your toes. Like warfare, you're going out and you're fighting. You need to be fighting for whatever you're believing for, not just like whatever. So you standing in agreement with Tom every single Sunday? In my opinion, if there's no doubt and unbelief involved, all you're doing is trying to, like, ensure that you know that you know that somebody else is believing for the same thing that you are, and you're going after it. So I think it's actually really good.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Does anybody want to add to that? You had the verse last week, the first Thessalonians 517, pray without ceasing. And then Matthew 11, 12 is the one that says, from the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and the violent people have been raiding it. And it's the other King James is the violent take it by force. So those are the two verses you just mentioned yeah so for me and i with our husbands having jobs in law enforcement
Starting point is 00:16:13 it it hits different you have to pray protection over them every single day they walk out of the door yeah which tom and i did do that yep and or would just, if we didn't pray it, sometimes we just always spoke it. Like, God's got you, you know. I don't worry about you. There would be things like that, or if we were on the phone while he was working or whatever. But, no, I do agree with you. I will say, though, Logan, when Tom served, it's like at the very end is when it got started going a little cry cry. Now it's really bad.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Like I would never suggest anybody go into the military. And we need the military to protect our country, right? But not under this guy. This guy is like he doesn't care about anybody's lives, whatever benefits him. So listen, if you need to go to war, it's all political for him. He has no intentions of winning. He just has every intention of looking like he's trying to do something when behind the scenes, he's made a pact with the devil on the other side, and it's all a facade. I mean, literally, Ukraine and Russia right now are fighting against each other, and it's all a fake war and people are losing they're literally
Starting point is 00:17:26 ripping family members young men out of cars and making them join the military and for what a war that is really in my opinion both sides are evil and they're not about the same they're it's all like a whole facade. It's all a look and what's the right word for it? It's all play. It's all a game. It's all play. In the meantime, there are lives, innocent lives that are being taken all because these elite are trying to go global right it's all about globalism and it doesn't matter what lives um are snuffed out or taken family members ruined our families ruined it's all that's irrelevant right it's all about an agenda and so for me i would never like want i would never want anybody that i know and love to go into the United States military.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And even to be a cop, I would tell people, go do something else. Let the evil ones fend for themselves. Like, I carry. Well, I don't personally carry. I have my license. I haven't been able to. I haven't filed it yet. You don't need to. You don't need to. I have my license. I haven't been able to. I haven't filed it yet. You don't need to.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You don't need to. Constitutional carry. Okay. I've been corrected, which is truth. Okay. That's Heather correcting me. I don't have my license. I've taken the course to get my license.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I just haven't gotten to get it. But listen. Right. Oh, that's right. You don't have to have it anymore. That's right. Thank you, Heather. So really, I can carry right now, which I need to do that maybe but i need more i need more i need
Starting point is 00:19:10 more i need more practice because that's what logan's gonna help me i need a big refresher course same i might just need to carry a rifle because they say tom tells me like anything happens in our house shotgun shotgun shotgun? Shotgun. Shotgun. What's a rifle? Isn't a shotgun and a... Similar. No, no, no, no. Isn't a rifle and a shotgun the same? No.
Starting point is 00:19:31 They're both long guns. They're long guns, right. Yeah, but shotguns, they shoot different... Yeah, but Tom has... We have a shotgun in our house. They're used mainly for home defense. Yeah. So, did I say rifle at first?
Starting point is 00:19:45 Okay. So I was wrong. I can put my rifle in for you on Monday and you can hold it. Show it off? Yeah. We got plenty of guns in my house. Of course, unless somebody comes to the door, then they've all been lost. What?
Starting point is 00:19:58 We should have show and tell. I'm not showing and telling nothing. And then all of a sudden they're gone. I get the shotgun if anything goes down because that thing don't miss. Whereas you have to have a good eye. Like when I got trained, I think it was I was with a friend. And I don't know how many times it took me to hit the target. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:25 He's like, ma'am, you need to stay in here for another five keep shooting as long as you have as long as you have a bird shot you should not miss i ended up hitting that target yeah but i ended up but see the thing is is i for me i want to hunt like our friends that took us fishing they are willing to take us hunting, right? And I want to do that because I like all that stuff. But I want to learn to skin. Like I had to do the chickens. Like I want to learn how to do all that stuff. But.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Did you know that? I have a goat. I just saw that you had a goat. Do you know what they're doing with the goat? What possessed you to get a goat, Vanessa? That wasn't me. No, no you know what they're doing with the goat? What possessed you to get a goat, Vanessa? That wasn't me. No, no. What are you guys doing with the goat?
Starting point is 00:21:09 Is it a pet? It is not a pet. Right. It's not a pet. We're raising to eventually kill it. You're raising to eat it? Yes. Yeah, for food.
Starting point is 00:21:17 A goat? I've never heard of people eating goat. Oh, yeah. It's huge in the Caribbean. I'm just... That not sure I'm not too keen have you eaten goat before you've eaten goat what does it in like a form of a stew. Stew. Yeah, it's hidden. So it takes on the flavor of the stew. Yeah. So there'll be an opportunity for you in the near future if you really want to. No, no.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The process. The process. Oh, I'll do that. Heather and I are going. Oh, 100%. I'll be inside making snacks. Oh, because you like the goat? You're going to be like Tom when we were killing the chickens.
Starting point is 00:22:02 No, because we're not slaughterers. I'll be with Vanessa. Crying. Jeffff got a tool it's called a bone saw and i just want to feel that you know what it feels like yeah a saw on a bone i just need to figure out i just need to figure out how to gut it and heather will probably be the one because she knows all the organs in the animal. So Heather will probably be the one to help Jeff to gut it. Yeah, she is. Which I'll be watching.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Listen, we need to know how to do all this, people. We have to figure out how to repurpose the blood, Heather. The blood. Repurpose the blood? Oh dear God, Logan. This has gone dark real quick. the blood like what we repurpose the blood yeah oh dear god logan this is going dark logan's wanting her husband to have birthing pains and now she wants to do something with the blood dear god okay logan i have to rethink whether or not you can be on that comment section
Starting point is 00:23:00 it'll get interesting. Logan needs to come and live with me for about, like how Mary went and lived with Elizabeth, her cousin, for the first trimester
Starting point is 00:23:13 of her marriage. Yeah. Or her pregnancy. Logan, I'm getting you for the second trimester. I think I'd make you proud at home.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I think Chris would love me for that. I think I'd make you proud. He doesn't miss a meal. No, that's not the problem. It's your weird-isms. It's your weird-isms. You want Chris to feel labor.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You be you, Logan. And then you want to do something with the blood. Next you're going to tell me you're going to eat your umbilical cord. Your placenta. Do not tell me you're eating your placenta. I found somebody who can turn it into a pill yes ma'am okay what okay that's your listen i'm learning so much i don't think I can handle it.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I have a little dark side. She's going to start gagging. That's not dark. It's not? Good. That's like that show where people eat weird things. I'm just saying. To eat your placenta.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah. It's incredibly nutritious. It's great for postpartum tracy knows me this is so good i'm waiting i should really be like i know i want to see if i can switch it i'm as bad as... Okay, Tracy knows me. I'm just waiting. On the way home after the podcast, I'm going to be, Tracy, what are we going to do? I don't know about Logan.
Starting point is 00:24:52 No, just kidding. I would never do that. Only unless I told you later. Oh, my gosh, Logan. This is awesome. Oh, man. We only have 25 or 35, 25 minutes left. 35 minutes left. Yeah. 35, 35. Okay. We, we haven't wasted too much time. No, this is so good, but I'm just saying that.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't know. Logan. I know now your opinions changed. Definitely. My opinion changed yesterday after Chris. Oh, my gosh. No, I'm just kidding. It's a wild thing, though. Oh, man. I'm just telling you, your doula is making you crazy. The doula.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I don't meet with her too often. It's me. I'm just crazy. I think you need to put the books down. Don't read anything holistic anymore. Have that baby in that pool. Do not eat the placenta and do not ask Chris to have birthing pains with you and share the pain of birth with you. Okay?
Starting point is 00:26:03 And then the other stuff that Talia just told me. That's a no-go either. I'm going to put you on one of those weird things that people eat. She might like it. What? She might like it. Who knows? No.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's a pill. It's a capsule. No, I'm talking about something else. Oh, that. Oh. Yes. Okay, people are getting bored. So let's move to the next question. I don't think they're bored.
Starting point is 00:26:32 What is that? I don't think they're bored. Oh, my gosh. They're learning just like you. What is that? I am. They're learning just like you. But I am.
Starting point is 00:26:40 They're learning. They're learning about Logan. Right. That's the part of the problem here. Sorry. Sorry. This new generation, what are we going to do with them? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm limiting my daughter's exposure to Logan. No. That's funny. Okay, and I'm going to talk to your mother, Talia. Yeah. Okay, and I'm going to talk to your mother, Talia. I don't know if Logan's the greatest, what is it, role model? I would hurt anybody that crossed them, though. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Totally defend them. Just don't make Norma eat your placenta. Just one capsule. Just one. Or don't talk Norma into eating your placenta. Just one capsule. Just one. Or don't talk Norma into eating your placenta. I'm just trying to talk her into getting married. Oh, my gosh. That's true.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Some days are better than others. Right now, she's hot. Like, she doesn't like guys at all. She's written them off. I mean, she doesn't like girls either. But she's like, guys. All right, next question.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Next question. I say that because there's really no point. It just depends on Norma's mood. True story. There's no guy. Just depends on her mood. Just depends. I get it like today whatever growing up we never celebrated halloween
Starting point is 00:28:12 i don't know what it is about fridays we're trying it's honest effort i'm sweating whatever growing up we never celebrated Halloween. We were always told by elders or parents that it was a bad holiday or the devil's holiday. Some of my cousins were even kept home from school if it fell on a school day. Growing up, it confused me to see churches doing events for Halloween or fall festivals where kids still dressed in costumes. Isn't that amazing that someone that's a kid clearly can see if you're not allowed to do Halloween, but you're allowed to go dress up and do events at churches?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yes. Like, people don't understand. People don't get it. I'm telling you. Hypocrisy at its finest. As I got into my 20s, I went out to a few Halloween parties, but always felt bad afterward for going and dressing up because of what I was taught as a child. What is your take on Halloween? God bless you for answering this question. I'll get hate mail because my take on Halloween is different than most Christians.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'm going to be just flat out honest with you. Not most Christians. That's not true. I wouldn't even say religious Christians because everybody has a stand on Halloween. Mine is very, very different. And I've talked about this several times on the podcast, and it makes people really like not happy okay but it is a fact that let your yes be yes and your no be no and I absolutely love you for asking this question because you made a great point when you would grow up your family told you you cannot celebrate Halloween no no dressing up, no nothing, right?
Starting point is 00:30:06 No trick-or-treating. But yet, let's mosey on down to the church where I'll do, you didn't say this, but this is where trunk-or-treats are famous. Like, you'll go to the church parking lot, everybody opens their trunk up, they sit outside the back of their car, and they pass out candy, and they look at you in your cute little outfit and say how cute you are, and you literally will say, trunk or treat. What's the difference between trick or treat? None. But because it's under the guise of Christianity, and it's on a church parking lot where it's holy, it's all different.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's not different. You have now, if you do this with your kids, you are a hypocrite, and you're creating a spirit of confusion for them. That is the truth. Trust me, I know. I do know because my mom would be the first one to tell you. One minute, my dad would say yes to Halloween. The next minute, he would say absolutely not to Halloween. The next minute, Halloween's okay.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And then the next time, Halloween is terrible, right? You can't do that to your kids. Whether it be going to a fall festival or going to, like, we have a place here called, is it Huntstater Farms? Or what's the one, Heather, that's, it's Huntstater, but what's the one that's really close to us, though? Fruitville Groves? Fruitville Groves? Okay, so we have these places that people will never, like, they won't, like, they're Christians, so they won't do trick-or-treating or anything else, but they'll go and they'll do the Fall Festival.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Guess what's at both of those places? In October, it's goblins and skeletons and Halloween stuff. I've seen Halloween stuff at Fruitville Groves. Like ghosts and things like that. And then up in Hunt's Cedar, 100%. They even had a haunted maze. So, corn maze. Thank you. So, it's like, you can't, again, don't do it at all.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Or do it. Because you are going to confuse the crap out of your kids. And, again, yes be yes and no be no. But I will tell you this. How do I say this without? I would ask you this. You weren't allowed to do Halloween, but I would dare say you were allowed to do Christmas and Easter. And I bet you a hundred bucks if you had a fireplace, you hung stockings.
Starting point is 00:32:43 That's pagan. You had a Christmas tree. Fake or real, that's pagan. Maybe your parents didn't allow you to believe in Santa Claus, but you had all the rest of the stuff around, like, at Christmas time, that a lot of people hate Christmas because they feel it's very materialistic, right? But they'll do a little bit and then they'll remove a little bit over here. It's all the same. It's like, don't do it or do it, but don't set these guidelines and rules that fit your criteria. And you think that that, because they fit your criteria, that that you made it
Starting point is 00:33:21 religiously acceptable. You didn't. If you have kids, you are now confusing them because they don't understand your mindset of, I'll do this, but I won't do that. And then it spiritually will be okay. It's all bad. It's all bad. Easter, did you do eggs?
Starting point is 00:33:40 You know, what's the other thing with Easter? There's the Easter bunny, but people won't even do that. Easter eggs were pagan. And there's one other thing with Easter that's pagan. And I can't remember what it is right now. Easter baskets and candy? No, that's not it. But that's like a stocking.
Starting point is 00:34:02 But the stockings actually were pagan. And so is the tree. But there's something with Eastering. But the stockings actually were a pagan, and so is the tree. But there's something with Easter besides the eggs that people do. No, it's not coloring the eggs. I don't remember what it is. But a lot of times people will do Easter, and Easter stands for East East Star which is pagan so which might have been what I was thinking about the name Easter and then the eggs both of them are pagan either do away with all of them or just like I'm not telling I'm not telling people about that Halloween you should you know
Starting point is 00:34:40 like my kids I did let them go we. A whole bunch of us would get together. And a lot of the people that attend this church, like we did it as a big group. We would go out. We'd laugh and joke around. Our kids would dress up in, like, little costumes. They'd go trick-or-treating. They'd get candy. And then we'd all go home.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And some people were like, oh, that's so horrible. Well, my thing to that is I also did Christmas and I also did Easter. So I'm not going to say one's okay and the other one's not. In actuality, Halloween was All Saints Day. If you look it up, it has different theologies of how it happened. But that one actually is the one that they say is that never started out pagan. It actually started out as a religious, spiritual, all saints day, and then it, you know, went down the pagan road. So I say, listen, if you dressed up, and you went to a party, and you dressed up, and you're not drinking, and you're not doing things that are dressed up and you're not drinking and you're not doing things that
Starting point is 00:35:45 are inappropriate and you're not behaving in an un-Christ-like way, just go and have fun. Don't make something more of it than what it is. My kids never, ever, when I took them trick or treating, were ever celebrating the devil. All they were is celebrating the fact that their pillowcase got really full with a lot of candy. That's it. That's it. Just like on Christmas, and I put that Christmas tree up, and I filled their stocking. They weren't celebrating a pagan holiday.
Starting point is 00:36:16 They were celebrating the fact that Jesus was born, and they had fun. They never really believed in Santa, but they had fun believing in the idea of Santa as long as he never came into the house. They did not like the fact that that man might be coming into our house and putting Christmas packages underneath the tree. They were not for that. Even the tooth fairy, they're like, do not let her in my room. Do not. I'm like, how's she going to put the teeth, money for you? How's she going to get your tooth? I don't want her in my room do not I'm like how she gonna put the teeth how she gonna get your tooth yeah I don't want her in here well and plus they knew like by then I'm like you you think your kids
Starting point is 00:36:55 gonna love the idea of the tooth fairy yeah you know they start losing teeth at what time how old like five three five six how old five six they start losing those no i think it was younger than that yeah because my kids were younger like tommy could barely talk because he didn't start talking until he was like almost three and listen i swear to the lord above i thought he was talking to some foreign language in his room i'm like you're not a dumb kid like are you speaking a foreign language in there that I can't speak, so I therefore don't know? You're advanced.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You're smart beyond your years. You actually know a foreign language. I'm just waiting for you to speak English. That's funny. No, no. I'm just saying, he could barely speak, but he definitely didn't want that tooth fairy in that room giving him some money. Norma cried.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Don't let her in here. Oh, man. I'm like, well, there ain't no such thing. I'm the tooth fairy. I them some money under. And Norma cried. Don't let her in here. Oh, man. I'm like, well, there ain't no such thing. I'm the tooth fairy. I made it all better. Yeah. All righty, next question. What would you say is an essential quality for a romantic relationship?
Starting point is 00:38:01 Let's, what do you think it is? What do you think it is, Tracy? think it is tracy i read your notes don't answer it then i won't did you agree with my what my thing was totally agree it's number one number one logan did you see my notes what do you think it is the key to a romantic relationship the most essential quality what's the most yeah thank you what is the most essential quality for a romantic relationship that the relationship has to have I guess is basically what it's saying so you understand say trust and honesty trust and that's exactly what I said has to be yeah number one if you want to have a romantic relationship with somebody if you do not have trust, forget about it.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Forget it. It's not going to happen. Let me tell you this. The definition of trust is firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something. That's the foundation of a good relationship. If you got, if you don't got that, everything is built on trust from the bottom to the top. Um, I made a list. So with, if you have trust in somebody, then you know that they're going to be honest, like you said, and they're going to be faithful, which to me, faithfulness
Starting point is 00:39:25 is like loyalty. It's way up there. But all of those things stem from trust. Like loyalty is part of trust. Faithfulness is part of trust. That's why I love what Lester Summerall says. How far you have faith in what the promises of God are is how much you actually trust God. It's so true. And when he said that, I was like, that is because faith is an action. Trust is your faith. And so in so much you trust him is how far you'll walk out in faith in what he tells you to do. It's the facts. And so if you do nothing, like people who are afraid to give,
Starting point is 00:40:20 it's because you don't trust what his promises are. So your action shows how much faith you have in what his word is, right? It's all hand in hand. And I never put that, I never put it together like that until I heard him preach on that. And I was like, that's so true. So trust equals safety because honesty and faithfulness create safety, correct? All right. I made a list. If you're safe, and this is what makes things very romantic, in my opinion, and you can tell me, girls, if you disagree, but if you're safe, you're vulnerable, correct? You're transparent, correct? You'll always be true to your feelings and emotions with the person because you're safe. Yeah. Correct? Oh, yeah. And the big thing for me is you can be very dependent
Starting point is 00:41:13 on that individual because you know their faithfulness and their loyalty to you based on how much you trust them. Correct? Yep. Yeah. So the more more you trust the bigger and better the romance is that's my opinion and i'm sticking to it it's good you agree yes yeah thank you very much thank you very much make sure you get that to your because nobody can hear you i feel like you can apply that to all your relationships you can apply it to friendships you can apply that to all your relationships. You can apply it to friendships. You can apply it to family members. It's a good filter. I'm telling you right now. It takes me a long time normally.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Unless I work with somebody like with Tracy. There are certain people. I've known Tracy probably less than almost anybody that I consider to be a really close friend. Okay. But with Tracy, I pretty much deal with you on a daily basis. So when you deal with somebody on it, but most of my friends I never dealt with or have dealt with on a daily basis it's more like I see them at church on Sunday or I'll eat well I don't really eat breakfast or lunch with anybody hardly anymore so I can't even use that as an example but that's by my choice I pretty much have
Starting point is 00:42:37 reserved those outings with people that I choose to like, Heather's laughing. Heather's still waiting to get on the list. I don't. So if I spend my personal time with somebody, it's probably because I really like them a lot. And I consider them to be a close friend. Now, most people that I'm not, I'm not going to be close friends with somebody who's not an honest person. Never in a million years. And I'm not going to be super close with somebody who's not an honest person. Never in a million years. And I'm not going to be super close with somebody that I do not trust at all. And I'm honest with people and tell them the truth about if they ask me a question and I am not going to be friends with somebody who is not going to do the same back for me.
Starting point is 00:43:22 That doesn't mean like when I tell people the honest truth about them that they actually like what I'm telling them. And the same back for me right that doesn't mean like when i tell people the honest truth about them that they actually like what i'm telling them and the same goes back like people have been honest about me and told me the truth about myself i don't like it sometimes but that's life i mean if they're a good friend that's what you do right and you do it with the heart of not being critical but being constructive yeah like it's only to better me when you're telling me that because you love me so much other than most people when they are trying to be critical or they are trying to tell you about yourself there's always not always that's not true but if unless the person is really close to me I always question the motive behind what they're
Starting point is 00:44:04 saying which can be very pure, very pure. But then there are times that I'm like, uh-uh, something ain't right. Like there's a reason why you're behaving or saying this like you are. And I never – Tom said something really good on Sunday about when people want to kind of speak into your life and they're kind of rude and how they do it like they tell you things that you didn't even ask them you know have you ever met people like that god I love them I love them and the thing is is nobody hardly ever does that with me it's funny nobody hardly ever does that to me it used to happen to me until I pretty much gave them back what they were trying to give like you stand up to people and they find out you're not the one guess what
Starting point is 00:44:49 it happens far less because they just don't they can't bully you right so it's not going to happen if you're not if you're not somebody they feel like they can bully they leave you alone but it's just like anything people prey on the weak because they feel like they can. Yeah. Right. So but I love what Tom said about when people come to you and they give you their opinion about something that you never asked them about. And then what what should happen is, is you should basically say, I'm like, don't speak into my life.
Starting point is 00:45:27 But then if you do let them speak into your life, then you allow that what they just said to have authority over you. Like you let it affect you. Maybe you're bothered by it for a period of time. Maybe, I mean, I've known if it's been said to females, even guys too, like it's hurt them so much that it's made them cry. Like it's been that, like it's been that mean. Um, but I love what Tom said. Cause he's like, don't, don't even let, don't even let it get you that place. Cause if they're not even worth allowing that to speak. For me, I'm like, if I didn't ask you, the odds are there's a motive behind it.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And if it's meanly said, the motive is probably mean. So how much truth of what they're saying is actually truth. So for me, I'm like, as far as I'm concerned, everything you just said has no value. It has no truth in it. So I don't receive it. You're not going to hurt my feelings because I don't believe what you just said. And that's really the best way to look at it. If somebody has something unkind to say, a lot of times people are mean because their
Starting point is 00:46:37 lives are measurable. It's so sad. But a lot of times people are mean and vindictive and kind of have a very curt way of speaking to people because something's not right in their own life. And it's so easy. And this is kind of a voice of experience, okay, because I was mean as a snake. And if I could say something hurtful or unkind and make you cry,
Starting point is 00:47:01 I felt like I had made my day. Not your day. My day. Yeah. Right. Right? Yeah. And so I got joy out of that. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:10 But the reason why I was like that is because I was so miserable and it was so easy to look at other people than to look at myself. Right. And as long as I was looking at other people, I didn't have to deal with what was going on in my own life. Yep. That I created. That's it. Ding, ding, ding. That I created. So it's, when I hear people say mean things or people have tried to invoke different things, I'm like, I think you really
Starting point is 00:47:38 need to examine your own, what's going on in your own life before you start looking at other people's lives. You're taking too much joy or there's a meanness behind what's being said. And there's probably something in your life you need to be looking at instead of looking at other people. But again, that comes from a voice of experience. When I was not saved, I was probably one of the most unkind individuals. Like, I'm not kidding. I'm not proud of it. I said a lot of mean and hateful and unkind things to people. I wish I could take them back. I wish you could go back to people and say, God, I'm so sorry. I purposely hurt you, right?
Starting point is 00:48:19 But you can't. That's why feathers, words like feathers in the wind, you cannot take them back. So you better make sure that when you say them, you really want to say them. Because you're not getting them back. And you can hurt somebody's spirit, their soul. Especially if it's a Christian to a Christian. Like Christians, we're to favor one another. So you should really be careful in how you speak to each other in that regard.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But for me, that was, I purposed. And there's a lot of, I'm not sad or I don't carry sorrow with it, but there is regret because you can't get that back. And somebody, if they are not spiritually where they need to be, if they're not a Christian or if they carry a lot of hurt, not maybe just caused by me, but just life in general, well, then that's a scar that you've given them, and they get to carry that around for the rest of their life until they get their life right with God, which maybe will never happen. Right. So that's a thing that you have to deal
Starting point is 00:49:22 with personally. But again, I don't walk around in pain over it. It's just regret. I wish I could, you know, I wish you could take, I wish we could take things back, but you can't. So what you do is you fix today and you move on from there. But if you're one of those hateful people and you don't believe that you're hateful, but you think you're really a help, let's make sure, let's really look and make sure that you're hateful but you think you're really a help let's make sure let's really look and make sure that you are mm-hmm okay the odds are you're probably not right and if nobody really wants to be around you mm-hmm the odds are you're not right quick fix ask a question instead of giving your opinion and your advice ask a question and like actually want no because sometimes how people ask the question is mean so the heart right
Starting point is 00:50:04 behind it if you actually want to know the answer to No, because sometimes how people ask the question is mean too. So the heart right behind it, if you actually want to know the answer to it, because I used to be very critical too. And so when I would ask a question, like I had to actually listen to what they were saying and you can't be manipulative about it. If you ask and like, you don't like the way somebody's doing something, why do you like, I don't know, maybe even an outfit. Like, why are you, why did you choose that today? If you have like, that's obviously a very vague one. But if you actually care and they're like, oh, it was really cold today, so I wore a sweater. And then you're like, oh, that's great. Then you don't have to respond.
Starting point is 00:50:31 You don't have to give advice. Well, I don't like that color. Because that's what you're thinking in your head. But I wasn't mean, but I could be critical about people. Yeah. Critical can be really. Yeah. And if you're really mean, don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Oh, yeah. Just don't open your mouth. But you know what? I find that people that are Oh, yeah. Just don't open your mouth. But you know what? I find that people that are like that, and this isn't on the whole. This isn't like a stereotypical statement. Okay. So when I say this, I'm not saying that all people that are like this fit this description but a lot of times when people are like that either they learned it from their parents or they're in a horrible relationship because kids that act like this it's because their parents are like this and it's just a learned behavior yeah and they're mean to you so you're
Starting point is 00:51:22 mean to other people right right so when i see kids that act like that i'm like one of your parents is probably a very mean person yeah but i've also seen it where kids can be super sweet and their parents are horrible like the total opposite the reason why they're horrible guess why it's because they're in a horrible marriage right and so they're mean yeah because of their marriage. Right. And then, but their kids are nice because they really don't take it out on the kids. They take it out on other people. Right. And then it's because they hate each other. Yeah. Does that make sense? Oh yeah. I've seen that a hundred percent. Okay. But normally that's why it is. It's a learned behavior or it's because
Starting point is 00:52:01 you're, you are miserable and it's usually a relationship. It's usually somebody, the only time somebody has so much power over you and how you treat other people or you treat that other person is because they are somebody who's super close to you or they were super close to you. You know what I'm saying? So they have, that's why I say love and hate are so close. It's so close. You can take that love and cross that line to hate super quick with someone. Yep. So. It's true.
Starting point is 00:52:36 What are you laughing at? It's true. It's true. You're not wrong. Listen, I mean, I'm 56. I've loved and hated super quick. Love somebody so dearly, and then they do something to you that's so mean and so hurtful. And then you go right over the line to like, I can't stand this person.
Starting point is 00:52:56 How could they be this horrible of an individual? So you can really hate them real quick and not feel a lick of bad about it so um let's go to the next question i have a family member who is gay because this is probably one of the ones that people really tuned in for could be what is it could be yeah i have a family member who is gay how do i tell them the truth of what the bible says about being gay. Also, I know that the Bible says it is an abomination, but is there anything else it says? Well, I'm going to tell you, there's a lot. It is becoming super popular right now that we, as Christians,
Starting point is 00:53:38 the world is already saying this, but in the church right now, acceptance of homosexuality is at an all-time high. All-time high. Condoning, enabling. I mean, we have a church down the road that I just am sick over. A young man who died, he was gay. And the church just kind of like never confronted it for this young man. And he ended up dying.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And I'm not going to say if he died in the state of homosexuality, he did not go to heaven. Now, everybody's telling the family. Now, if the family watches this podcast, they're probably going to hate my guts because the whole entire family is proud that he was embracing who he was and that God embraces that too and that he was embracing who he was and that God embraces that too and that he's in heaven okay that church did a major disservice to that family and to that young man like you're not if you think
Starting point is 00:54:36 you're not gonna answer for that the word is clear you absolutely will and a beautiful human being might not be in heaven all because people wanted to love him to death. And that's the truth. And it ticks me off. And the Christian world, when we have Christian leadership from artists, meaning artists, singers, and pastors who, when they're publicly asked, is homosexuality a sin? I'm not the judge. It's not for me to judge. Bologna. What does the word of God say? It's not you judging. You're quoting the word of God. And the word of God is very clear in many places that if you live as a homosexual, you are not going to heaven. But if you live as a fornicator, you're not going to heaven. Like a gossip, a liar, jealous, covetous, envious, all those things,
Starting point is 00:55:32 you're not going to heaven. So it's not like you're picking on a homosexual. There are many other lists of items that will keep you out of heaven. But you've got to be honest about it. Otherwise, somebody's going to die and go straight to hell because you were of heaven. But you got to be honest about it. Otherwise, somebody's going to die and go straight to hell because you were too afraid. You were a coward. And it says in the end times, people will be cowards. And in Revelations, it says cowardly will not go to heaven. It's because in Revelation, they knew as the time grew closer, people would be cowards
Starting point is 00:56:02 to speak the truth. And there are scriptures, and I'm going to read them to you, it says don't be upset when people say all kinds of things about you and they hate you. Because great is your reward. But people don't read the Bible, so it's way easier to enable sin and think that you're loving. And that's how we got COVID. And that's why people put on masks and
Starting point is 00:56:26 that's why like global warming or climate change whatever it is it'll be far easier to be a loving neighbor and good community partner than to tell the truth so and people dislike and hate you. If you like, depending on who's watching this, people will absolutely hate me for this, but you know what? I love you enough to tell you the truth. And if you hate me, so be it. Matthew 5, 11 says, blessed are you when they revile and persecute you and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for my sake. So what I'm about to tell you is things that you may hate me for. You may even say unkind things about me because I'm about to speak the truth. But the Bible is the true word of God. Jesus is the word.
Starting point is 00:57:20 And I will always, I will not forsake it. I will always, I will not forsake it. I will always speak the truth. Because if it saves just 10 people from going to hell because they learned the truth, if it saved one, then it's worth it. I don't care. So if you want your family member to be saved, you can't waver on this. You're going to have to speak the truth in love. You cannot endorse bad behavior. You can't enable it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 You're going to have to be honest, and you're going to have to speak the truth in love. And there is a scripture about speaking the truth in love, which is Ephesians 4, 15, which says, speak the truth in love, and you're going to be able to do that. They may not receive it as love because Jesus spoke the word, and they found it offensive. They found Jesus offensive. And Jesus sometimes said things in ways that people liked and sometimes he said it in ways that they didn't like it. But it was always truth and they still found it offensive.
Starting point is 00:58:16 The Bible will offend. There's nothing you can do about that. But you're responsible to speak what it says. Okay. you can do about that, but you're responsible to speak what it says. Okay, let me go to the Old Testament. Now, people will say the Old Testament doesn't count because we have the New Testament, but the Old Testament is very clear. Let's go to some scriptures in the Old Testament because we still live by them. Genesis 19, 1 through 13, And this is a little bit long, but it's still factual, actual. Sodom's depravity.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. And he said, Here now, my lords, please turn into your servant's house and spend the night. These were two angels, okay? And they said, No, but we will spend the night in the open square. But he insisted strongly. So they turned into him and entered his house. And then he made them a feast and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. Now before they laid down, the men of Sodom, both old and young,
Starting point is 00:59:32 all the people from every quarter surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so we may know them carnally. Okay, now this is King James Version, but it means so we can have sex with them. So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, and said, Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly. See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man, meaning they're virgins. Please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish what a great dad yeah what a great dad but these two
Starting point is 01:00:12 girls were so great that they actually got their dad drunk and then had sex with him so they could replenish the earth so i mean quality yeah we got a family you you talk about um dysfunction junction yeah that's a dysfunctional family. So please let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish. Only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof. And they said, stand back. And then they said, this one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge. Now we will deal worse with you than with them.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So they are threatening Lot in order to get these two guys, two angels. So they pressed hard against the man, Lot, and came near to break down the door. But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house. So the angels pulled Lot back into the house, and they shut the door. And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness. So the angels struck the men that wanted to have sex with them with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door. Then the men said to Lot, have you anyone else here? The angels are asking Lot, do you have anyone else that, because they're about to say
Starting point is 01:01:25 we're leaving and you're going to have to take them with you. Son-in-law, your sons, your daughters and whomever you have in the city, take them out of this place for we will destroy this place because the outcry against them has grown great before the face of the Lord and the Lord has sent us to destroy it. So homosexuality
Starting point is 01:01:42 is what destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. If Sodom and Gomorrah. If homosexuality is okay, then why was the city going to be destroyed because of it? Well, you could say, well, that's Old Testament. You know, Jesus died on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins. We now have grace. Leviticus 18.22, you shall not lie with a male as with a woman it is an abomination just because it said it in the old doesn't mean that it still doesn't apply to the new we're going to look at that Leviticus 20 13 says if a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Their blood shall be upon them. Now, you know, what will happen too is people, this is the other thing I've heard, which probably you girls have too, is Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. So it's not a sin. He didn't talk about it. And you know what I say to that? Bull crap.
Starting point is 01:02:52 So, if the Bible is the inspired word of God, correct? Mm-hmm. Yep. If the Bible is the inspired word of God, then when Paul talked about homosexuality, then God was giving him those words to say, correct? Mm-hmm. Yep. All right. then God was giving him those words to say, correct? Yep. All right. If Jesus is the word, then Jesus said it, correct?
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yes. So just because Paul said it, he said it because God told him. If God inspired that word to come out of Paul, and then it is written in the Bible and Jesus is the word, ultimately Jesus did say it, correct? So this theology that Jesus never talked about in the New Testament is done away with clearly. You can't say that, because Jesus is the word. So he ultimately does say it. Again, nobody reads their Bible. So let's look at the New Testament. Romans 1, 26 through 27, it says,
Starting point is 01:03:45 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions, for even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise, also the men, leaving the natural use of the women, burned in their lusts for one another, men with men committing what is shameful and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 1 Corinthians 6, 9 says, Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Starting point is 01:04:11 And listen, a lot of people will say, Well, they said the sinner's prayer, so they're good. They're golden. That you can say the sinner's prayer and then go and be a homosexual. That's not what the Bible says. It's very clear that the great falling away will happen before Jesus returns. So if the great falling away happens, the great falling away is the people who were saved and walked away.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Okay, you had to be saved. To fall away, you have to have been a part of something. All right, and there are so many scriptures that clearly state, I mean, it is clear as day that there is no such thing as eternal security. That if you, it says, if you live like this, you'll not inherit the kingdom of heaven in Galatians and in Ephesians. But Corinthians says, do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? So you're unrighteous if you do these things. This is what it says. Do not be deceived.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites. And then there's others after that. So you're considered unrighteous if you do those, just that. And that's homosexuality. So the unrighteous will not see the kingdom of heaven is what it says. Only the righteous see the kingdom of heaven. So you're considered unrighteous if you're a homosexual. Also, if you fornicate.
Starting point is 01:05:39 1 Timothy 1.10 says, For fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. So you're not saved. It is a sin, clear. So I go back to the thing where people say, well, the big thing right now, which is crazy to me, is that people are born gay. I don't believe that for a second. First of all, God never set you up to fail.
Starting point is 01:06:18 He would never make you a homosexual. From the very beginning, you never have a fighting chance, that you're never going to get a chance to go to heaven. It's not the truth. He did not make people gay because that means automatically you are never going to have the chance to go to heaven. Not a chance. And I have scripture to prove it. But on top of that is I personally believe, and you girls can tell me if you disagree and you can put you on, me personally, a lot of times when I've seen people go this route, I've known, like, there's a lot of homosexual men who have kids. How could they have been born gay? There's a lot of homosexual
Starting point is 01:06:58 women that have kids. They weren't born gay. Now we're confusing kids at a very young age so that it's ultimately looking like they were born this way. But even that's not true because it's a spirit of confusion as far as I'm concerned. So a lot of times when you're seeing like guys in their 20s and stuff like that, I ultimately always ask if somebody tells me their kid is a homosexual. I always say if it's a boy, I'm like, were they abused sexually? Almost every single time it's yes. There was somehow, someway, somebody got to them and touched them or literally sexually abused them. Not just touching.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Sexually abused them on a greater scale. Almost, I mean, it's like I would say 80% plus. Women, it's usually because they were in a physically abusive relationship with a male. Almost always. usually because they were in a physically abusive relationship with a male almost always or if the guy wasn't physically abusive he was non-existent like he was like emotionless he really just came home did nothing wasn't there for them emotionally speaking, didn't have conversation with them. Basically, he went to work. He provided. He did what he wanted to in the evening, even if it was just falling asleep.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Went to bed. Got up the next morning. Like, he didn't really help the kids. He really didn't help. He really wasn't a participant in the marriage. And I find that that's where a lot of times it happens too. Are you in agreement or do you disagree? No, totally agree.
Starting point is 01:08:51 83%. 83% of homosexuals, males. Females as well. Females as well. Yeah. And I guessed at that because I'm just saying, when I've asked people who have dealt with that with their family members, it's over that many times that I've heard, yes, they were.
Starting point is 01:09:11 That's why I say that. Isn't that insanity? So devil, kill, steal, and destroy. He took a child's innocence, and now he's stripping them and stealing from them. But you do have to dig for this statistic. Because if you just type it in, it's going to say 20%. Oh, I believe it. Yeah, because what it is is it ruins the narrative that people are born gay. It ruins the narrative that this is a personal choice.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It's not a personal choice. If you were sexually abused, now you don't understand. Because the truth is, when were sexually abused now you don't understand because the truth is when you're young you don't understand your sexuality you're everything you're figuring out i literally at age of 25 and they say this which i did not know this at the time at the age of 25 i felt like a light bulb finally went off over my head and I was like you're an idiot oh how freeing is this you're an idiot you know nothing now you can do life because now you know you know nothing and now life can begin for you well in all actuality they say the brain totally finishes forming and like taking on at the age of 25 and so many people have told me oh my gosh at the age of 25 I realized this
Starting point is 01:10:26 is who I'm gonna be this is what I want to do for the rest of my life as far as career or whatever I've gotten my life together I've gotten my act together usually right around the age of 25 that things start calming down and you just stop being an idiot because you realize you're an idiot do you know what I'm saying yeah but that's the same thing as these children who are sexually abused they don't understand they don't understand what they're feeling and experience because nothing is formed up there properly and it takes a really long time to get to there you know and it's a
Starting point is 01:11:05 cycle says 82 percent of suspected perpetrators of sexual child sexual abuse in a study sample were at the same time so basically it's saying that 82 percent of people who abuse a child were either in a gay relationship or were at one point in a gay relationship. Does that make sense? So the abuser was already gay and then they abuse a child. Yep. And then that child will now become, that child now has a tendency for homosexual tendencies. Doesn't mean that they'll end up being an abuser.
Starting point is 01:11:47 But because homosexuality is a perversion, it actually is that when it comes to a list of sins, it's the one closest to having a reprobate mind. And when you get a reprobate mind, it's almost near impossible for you to get yourself out, as far as for you to turn from that sin like homosexuality is the most perverse well it's out of sexual sins but also because it's a sexual sin against your own body but as far as all all the sins what i've been taught okay and what i find to be true just just statistically speaking, people who, um,
Starting point is 01:12:27 live a homosexual, uh, homosexual, um, lifestyle have a very difficult time turning from that lifestyle, being saved and never going back to it. Like a murderer, like you would think murdering is like the worst sin on the face of the earth. A murderer can turn from never, and never murder again. Right. They can turn from and never murder again, right? They can turn from that lifestyle. They can no longer have fits of rage, those tendencies. But homosexuality, because sex is so big. Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's like cocaine to people. I mean, even somebody who's heterosexual, who has normal sexual tendencies as far as not a nympho or somebody like that that has to have it all the time. But somebody who just has a normal marriage, you're a sexual being. It's a very important part of your life when you find that other person. It's not the whole thing. Your friendship's the whole thing. But it's a daggum big part of a relationship. So if you're out of line, I don't know. So let me go to this, and then we'll close out because we only have, how far are we out?
Starting point is 01:13:42 We're out. 13 minutes. How many? 13. Oh, dear God. Super sorry. won't close out because we only have how far are we out yeah we're out 13 minutes how many 13 oh dear god yeah super sorry nobody has anything to do after this right i'm just kidding i'm not holding up the show for anybody so um let me just say because i say there ain't no way you can be born gay and i'm gonna tell you how genesis 127 It is not possible.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Not possible at all. Look at that scripture that I'm about to read to you. I'm looking at it, but I see where she put it. So God created man in his own image. In the image of God, he created him. Male and female, he created them. So God created Adam in his own image. And then he took the rib of Adam and he made Eve. Eve is the image of Adam.
Starting point is 01:14:30 So ultimately, she's also the image of God, correct? So if God made us in his image and he made a male and a female to have a heterosexual relationship, then there is absolutely no way. If homosexuality was the way to go, then God would have made Adam, then he would have made another man out of the rib of Adam, and it would have been okay. That's not what happened at all. It was man, then woman, in the image of God.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Adam was heterosexual. So God, Adam was heterosexual. So God must be a heterosexual, correct? Which means homosexuality, you can never be born a homosexual. If that was the case, then Adam would have been born a homosexual. That's not what he did. He made a man for a woman so that they have a relationship. It is the spirit of confusion to tell people that homosexuality, they can be born like that or that God makes mistakes. Personally, I wouldn't want to go to heaven and answer to God for that
Starting point is 01:15:42 because that's a big answer. Everyone has to repent. If you lived a fornicating lifestyle, that would be me. If you were a gossip, that would be me. I mean, if you had fits of rage, hello. You have to repent. You have to get it right. But if you live a homosexual lifestyle,
Starting point is 01:16:11 just as much as those things are not acceptable to God, and all of us, like God birthed anger, like he gets mad. It says that God gets mad at the wicked every day, okay? So anger is inside of us, but you're not allowed to be angry in a un-Christlike manner. You're to control that, okay? We're made to have sex, but in a relationship that is a marital relationship, okay? So if you're doing it not under those confines, you're wrong. You need to repent. God made us sexual beings. And then if you're a gossip and you love to talk and you love to tell about people's personal information or share something that you know that even might be a truth that should never be shared, okay, God gave us the ability to speak, but we're to do it in a Christ-like manner. We can have excuses all we want to, to live a certain way we want to live, but that doesn't mean it's under the guise of Christianity. It's sin. So homosexuality, you may try and enable it. You may try and condone it. You
Starting point is 01:17:17 may put a thumbs up and make it acceptable. It isn't. Just like all the other sins, it's unacceptable. And you're doing no one any justice by making them believe that God would either born them like that, or he would receive them like that, or that it's acceptable. Nowhere in scripture did God ever condone or approve a homosexual lifestyle. Every scripture talks about it in a way in which if you do not turn from that way, there will be a penalty. There will be a punishment. There will be eternal damnation. That's just the way it is. And you got to tell the truth to your family member or your friends or whatever. You might be the only thing that gets them to heaven. Truth be told because you're willing to speak the truth to them and love.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But if you don't tell them the truth, God help you because when you go to heaven and they don't, you might see them when they get judged and they say, you knew the whole entire time and you never told me. And you'll have to live with the fact that they didn't go to heaven because you were not bold and didn't have the courage enough to tell them the truth. Not me. And you'll have to live with the fact that they didn't go to heaven because you were not bold and didn't have the courage enough to tell them the truth. Not me. I'm not willing to do that. Even if people hate my guts and then they talk really bad about me or whatever, I'm not willing to do it. I don't care. I care more about people and where they go for the rest of their lives, for their eternity. Anybody got anything to say? Girls, you're looking at me over there.
Starting point is 01:18:46 No, that was good. I just got a lot of work to do. Yep. So if you don't know Jesus as your Lord and Savior, or if you did at one time, say this prayer with me. Let's get your lives right. Listen, if you are living in a lifestyle
Starting point is 01:19:01 that is not acceptable, super easy. I think every single one of us in this room have fallen short, and we've had to get our lives right. There is no one that was born on this earth that got it right from the beginning, outside of Jesus Christ. So all of us have had to say this prayer, or I've said it many times, including myself. I've said it more than once. I got it right. And then I, you know, like when I was 24 or 25,
Starting point is 01:19:32 I got it right. And I haven't had to say it again since. And you can be the same way. But maybe, maybe that's not the case. Maybe you've said it and you have to do it, get it right. And then you said it and you got to get it right. At least keep trying. Don't like give up and just live a lifestyle of sin and say that, you know what, I just can't do it. You can do it. Everybody can be saved. Say this prayer with me right now. Heavenly Father, I come to you right now. I thank you for what you did on the cross. I thank you for dying for me. I thank you for shedding your blood for me. I thank you for what you did on the cross. I thank you for dying for me. I thank you for shedding your blood for me. I thank you for dying for my sins.
Starting point is 01:20:11 I receive the price that was paid. I thank you. I love you for it. And I want to live for you forever. Forgive me of my sins,
Starting point is 01:20:33 and share with me and show me what you want me to do for the rest of my life. I make you the Lord of my life, and I live for you forever. In Jesus' mighty name we pray, amen. If you said that prayer, let us know. We want to pray with you. We want to help you find a good church. Listen, if you live in the area, Foundation Church, it's the best. I promise you that.
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