The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S01-E83 | 11-01-23

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

The Hope Hotline | S01-E83 | 11-01-23

Welcome to the Hope Hotline. I'm hoping you can hear me. We just got some new equipment and I'm the tester. We don't do that on Tom's podcast. We only do it on my podcast. As Tom would say, the low-hanging fruit.

I'm the easy one. You get rid of me really easy. I did not understand what low-hanging fruit meant. Do you know what low-hanging fruit meant. Thank you. Do you know what low-hanging fruit means? I don't know. Huh?

Yeah, like easy. Yeah. Well, it's easy for the taking. Yeah. Should I even discuss this, how we talked about this? Yes, please. This is a spicy podcast. This one actually is going to be quite spicy right um so let's start okay so we'll start i gotta be really careful okay

um i might not be able to do this. So I got to figure out. Okay, so Tom and I were talking Monday night. And we were talking about guys and the kind of girls that guys will just have relations with. Because they're the low-hanging fruit. And I was like, and he was describing a certain kind of female with a certain kind of female. I'll leave it at that. And I was like, guys will, guys literally will have relationships. And I'm not, when I say relationships, the girl thinks she's in a

relationship. Guy definitely knows he's not, even though he's not letting her know that. Excuse me. So I was like, a guy will have relations with a girl even though, well, he's like, she's got to be somewhat attractive, but not really attractive. And then he's like, yeah, guys will definitely do that. And I'm thinking to myself, this is so mean. Like, just, I'm thinking, golly, man, this is so mean. And he's like, it's low-hanging fruit. I'm like, wait a minute, is that, like, I'm like, what?

That term? I'm like, he's like, yeah, it's low-hanging fruit. That's what guys consider it to be. It's easy. Easy for the taking. That's why girls, seriously, like yourself. If you're single, like yourself. Make sure that whoever it is, like I said to guys, just if you're a good, solid Christian guy, make sure, especially if you're going to go into ministry

and you know God's called you into ministry, you better daggum make sure that girl is worthy of you and that she's going to take you places and not hold you back. Because a lot of times they hold you back. But girls, I would say, don't be low-hanging fruit. Or know that you're worthy of more than that. Cause Holy Mac, low hanging fruit, non.

So Tracy just pulled this up for me. Good. Low hanging for, is this the definition? Yeah. It's non informal or it's a noun. No, no.

Yeah. Yeah. Noun. And then informal. Cause it's all one word. yeah yeah noun and then informal because it's all one word non or noun informal yeah it's now the noun for that that's not a person place or thing it's low-hanging fruit is a thing that is true well keep reading i'm thinking it low-hanging fruit is a noun. A thing or person that can be won, obtained, or persuaded with little effort. Yeah.

We know, then it gives you a sentence that says, we know mining our own customer base is low-hanging fruit. Yeah. That's just the one they give us. Which, you know, I never really knew what low-hanging fruit meant. I thought just easy. Did you? Did you know what that meant? I don't know, I never really knew what low-hanging fruit meant. I thought just easy. Did you?

Did you know what that meant? I don't know if I would describe it that way. I literally thought it was fruit that hung on a tree and it was just low. Like easy picking. But I... I never thought it was

pertaining to a person. I didn't either. You didn't? No, no, no. I thought it was like... Good. You thought it was... You knew it was...

You knew it was... Vanessa, you knew it was for a person? Yes. Were you low-hanging fruit no I know you weren't girl oh my gosh look at her I might have been at one time oh my gosh that's maybe I don't know I would say not okay when I say this I don't mean this bad at all.

Okay. But I will tell you, first of all, I was never low hanging fruit. Second of all, um, Oh gosh. I'm trying to be very gentle in how I say.

I, all I can tell you is I would have never been considered low-hanging fruit based on the description of what Tom was saying low-hanging fruit is considered. And it's not because I'm so great. That's not what I mean. It's just I don't fit that description.

And if I told you what it was you'd be like, oh yeah, yeah. You don't fit that description. Thank you, God. Now everybody's going to go home and go to their husbands, what's low-hanging fruit, the description of low-hanging fruit? They might not know. They might have their own thing in their head what low-hanging fruit is.

By the way, I want to say thank you to all the ladies that are listening that came to Dare to Be. That was like a really good turnout. We had wait a minute, 76 people. 76 for my first

one ever. Not too shabby people. Not too shabby at all. If you didn't come, shame on you. I don't like you anymore. Oh my gosh. You too shabby. Not too shabby at all. If you didn't come, shame on you. I don't like you anymore. You're not my friend. You should have been there. You should have been there. You missed out. It was really good.

You know what? I wanted to ask you if you can tell me. No, I can't. You can't tell me? No. How do you know? How do you know I'm going to ask? I know exactly what you're going to ask me. You do know what you're going to ask? So you can't tell me? I can tell you. Like, okay, so, like, okay, let me ask the question.

And then you can say, yeah, I knew that. And I'm not answering it. Okay. How about that? Okay. So a lot of sweet things said from different age groups about what they took away from it that night. Right. You know,

the Holy spirit's great. Cause anybody like everybody was different in what they got. Right. But you said something to me before you left and I can't remember exactly what it was, but, and I went to say, I was like,

I gotta ask her what, like you said that it taught you or it showed you or it. Close. What was it? Please don't make me play 20 questions. We only have an hour and we're now down to 48 minutes. Yeah. Is it 48 minutes?

Yeah. No. 52. 52 minutes. 52. Yeah. I'm always trying to figure out if I'm opposite. Go ahead.

Tell me, what was it that you said? And can you tell me what it is? I said that you confirmed some stuff for me. Oh, yes. Yeah. Can you tell me what it is? Sure. Okay. Tell me what it is. Okay. Well, it's obviously the Holy Spirit confirmed something to you. Yeah. What was said? Yeah. What was confirmed? I don't usually get things that are confirmed for like far in the future stuff. Usually it's just like step by step. And I don't know if that's just with my personality, because I don't really love like feeling like I'm like stuck on something, especially, but only with family. So like my, my family is like, I never want that to change. I want to

be consistent forever and ever. And like, there was just stuff that you were saying, and it's not even gonna make sense to you. Cause you're not even gonna like, this is gonna make zero sense to you. But like, there were things you were saying and I was like, she is such a strong leader. Like this is exactly what I want to be under. Oh gosh. That's not what I thought. I would have asked the question. I know. That's why I said no. I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew that that's why I said no. But no, I'm serious. I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew that that was going to be a compliment. I thought you were saying that. I know. I wasn't

even looking for it. I thought it confirmed something to you about you. I know. That's why I didn't say anything. When you're like, oh, that's interesting. I want to know more. And I'm like, no. Okay. I appreciate the compliment, but that's definitely not what I was looking for. But for me, that's a big deal because I don't like thinking about doing something indefinitely or being somewhere indefinitely is like daunting and I don't know why I never I'll be honest with you I never ever look at that I will be anywhere indefinitely I know that's why that's why it was a lot when you were like, whatever you, and I mean, that's the thing. I don't know if God specifically didn't like make me remember exactly what you

said, but it was just the way that you said it. It can, you confirm things that have been spoken lately too. And I'm like, man, like to be under leadership, you don't even know, like some of the stuff you said isn't even like, we've talked about it, but it's been talked about in our Tuesday group or just quietly individually with other people. And you were saying things. I'm like, this is exactly like, it was just confirmation. I know, but that's amazing. Okay. So that's the whole point is like, all I wanted, all I wanted is to be under leadership that was being led by the Holy Spirit. You think that's like easily found, right? It's not, it's not. Most people are looking to somebody else or reading

a book or on sermons.com. But the fact that like, there's no other way to explain it, that you would be saying things that confirmed to me what I like just needed that little confirmation, but you don't even know. No, I don't. I know. But that's good. Cause I love, like, I love that. I never know. Because then you just let the Lord do the work. I know. He's so good, man. I know. It's so easy.

I know. He never lets you down. It's just amazing to me how the Holy Spirit. It's so funny because when Tom preaches and speaks and stuff, how people will come up to you and we've actually had people mad because they thought somebody told them something. And Tom's like, I have no idea what you're talking about. And he read their mail.

He had no idea. That's the Holy Spirit. And if people would just allow and subject themselves to him and the powerfulness behind all of that. Like it's really nothing. You're just, it's really simple. Right. Like. Right.

And I did something new with that with that uh with Monday night I really pushed myself that's why when I was saying to people like I'm stretching you but I'm really stretching myself teach I go in depth like I like digging deeper I like people to understand the bible more right and how it's not just symbolic it actually means something right and and that there was everything's purposeful in there right but the lord was like that's not how we're going to do this this time like because i thrive on that he made me go okay that's not how because i think he's making me still be a teacher but making me have to go more into a pastoral it felt different yeah which i'm not comfortable in yeah like i literally am not comfortable in that and i told

the lord i'm not this isn't like i'd rather do the other. Yeah. But, and even like I told Heather how I had to write my notes, I was talking to Tom about this, like how I did my notes. I only allowed myself one week to prepare it. Usually. Right. I'm preparing a month and a half out. I'm a prepper. Right. You are. You are. Not a,. Not a well, I would say I am kind of not a conspiracy, which I kind of am a conspiracy conspiracy theorist prepper. I am kind of, but

I'm always preparing in the future. I have stuff for messages for the future already that I'm why? God will just drop it, right? Like I have stuff for messages for the future already that I'm, why? Like God will just drop it, right?

And I think that's one of the things that he's trying to teach me. But I did it totally different. Even how I took my notes. When I was saying that to people, it's like, I'm not telling you something to do that I'm not feeling like God's telling me to do, which I think is really great because the Lord, everybody thinks that everybody's got it going on. And in real facts, nobody's got it going on. We're all just trying to figure it out and letting him lead us the way, you know, letting him drive the car and lead us the way he wants us to go. I'm not saying that everybody's a hot mess.

That's not true. If you're a believer, you're not a hot mess. But that doesn't mean that you have it all together because no one will have it all together. We're always, God, whenever you think you've got it to the place that you do, God's gonna say, now let's go to the next level. And you're gonna be like, wait a minute here yeah can i just get a break i just got here i'm comfortable and he's gonna be like no there's no time for comfortable

exactly because i got a plan and the only way well so we'll always be always striving to attain the next chapter the next place that he has for us. And as soon as you go comfortable, you become complacent. And complacency is dangerous. Super dangerous. Because once you become complacent, it's a high probability of going backwards. So don't ever learn to be comfortable. A guy that's running a race, he's never comfortable.

He's just not. Definitely not definitely it's not comfortable but um okay well thank you for the compliment that's not what i was going for but necessarily it wasn't really a compliment to you it was like god like you're good you're good no it is a compliment to me when you're saying that you've longed to be under leadership and then i know i know that's a compliment i I don't take that lightly. I know. I know. But like when I, God gave it to me, it was just like unexpected, but like, but like, I don't know. It was just good. It was really good. And I, I almost never even said anything to you. And then I felt like I had to. Yeah. I thought God revealed something powerful to you about yourself. It is powerful. Not really, but it is. But that's okay. No, it is. It's really good. But that was fun. So, um, okay, let's, let's do this. Let's get you

enough about you, Tracy. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I'm totally happy. I'm going to hand this over this whole podcast over to you. Take it from here. No, that's not what I meant. Okay. We're not going to talk about you anymore about Monday night. That's what I mean. Oh, okay. Okay. So let's, let's go into what you like. Let's, let's like share all that crap.

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Along with everything else that we do and then everything else on top of that people it's so funny because you sit there and i'm sure it's different for other you know churches and stuff like that but um you know you sit there and you go, what do they do all day? I mean, I probably would think that. Yeah. To a certain extent. I mean, what is there to do all day long?

Right. I like never, never stop. Never. Never. I can't believe it's Wednesday. I can't believe it's November 1st. It's November. It's crazy.

What? I mean, it's crazy. It's basically Christmas. It's crazy. What? I mean, it's crazy. It's basically Christmas. It is so insane. That brings me up to my next question for Vanessa. Vanessa wants the tree going up. Is it already up? So I'm hosting something on Saturday that requires me to keep my pumpkins up. After that?

I'm pretty sure on Sunday it's coming up out so maybe i believe it she's the she's usually the earliest christmas decorator ever if my house ever gets done i think the only thing we put up last year was the cree the cree the tree the christ Christmas tree. It goes together. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. And it might be that, that might be the case this year. Because at the rate it's going, like, I mean,

usually my house looks like Hallmark. Yeah. I know. I've seen it. Because Tom is like off the charts. He is such a good decorator. Yeah. It always looks great.

He taps into his homosexual side and goes off the charts. Oh my gosh, it's metrosexual. Metrosexual. I'm just saying, he's in tune with that. But he's watched so much Hallmark. I was going to say. Lots of inspiration. How could he not be good?

The year that he decided to do it was the year that he retired from the sheriff's office. Oh, okay. And he went hog wild. I cannot tell you how many times I went to Home Depot, Walmart, Hobby Lobby. Wait, so how does that work? So he tells me what he wants. And then you go to the store and pick it up. I have to go and get it.

So is he shopping online, like picking out ideas? He picks out nothing. What he tells me is this is what I want you to do because he usually has things decorated with garland. This is the kind of garland I want. This is what I want you to do. I'm going to do this with the Christmas village. So I'm going to stack it this way. I need you to go and get me these things so I can, I'm like, oh my gosh. I'm like, I'll drive back and forth however many hundred times you want me to do it. Please just don't let me decorate.

I'll even take it and put it away. Oh, my gosh. I hate decorating. I hate it. Wow. Oh, my gosh. And the thing is, is this. Like, Tommy's new girlfriend, which he's only had one girlfriend, but Tommy's girlfriend likes Hallmark.

So now they're all going to watch Hallmark together. Oh, wow. I hate Hallmark. I'm not doing it. Does Tommy watch Hallmark? No. Tommy does not watch Hallmark. Tommy does not watch Hallmark.

It might be me and Tommy go off and do something. We have our own date And then Tommy's girlfriend and Norma Can all squeal and act like idiots together Oh my gosh Norma acts like the biggest goofball Ever Talia, have you ever been at the house when Norma's watched a Hallmark movie?

Okay I was going to have her validate with my comment does she squeal and go crazy oh my gosh okay they both do oh yeah that's lovely bad person ask they both scream yeah i'm not kidding you. It's like, and Tom's crying. So Norma's screaming and squealing and Tom's over there crying. And he literally is like, like, are you crying?

And he's like, yeah. And he'll cover up underneath a pillow or something. It's pathetic. Or a blanket. I'm like, yeah, oh my gosh, I can't take it. Just can't take it. But funny, it's like the same every time. So like, how does it get the emotions? Like, at

some point, like, aw, sweet. That's my perplexion all together. I am perplexed by the whole entire thing. I don't know. I mean, maybe Talia and Vanessa can explain it since they seem to be hallmark lovers. I don't cry see okay that

makes sense to me right it's the same story like you could say like you do squeals but i do not cry okay that's a little better i mean what are you squealing over love love when the widower when the widower finds love and reunites their love for Christmas, I mean, how can you not? What more could you ask for? Well, I can't. I have a few thoughts. I don't know if I'm permitted to say or on the podcast, but I have a few thoughts. You know, oh, my gosh, like Christmas.

Oh my gosh. Whatever. I can't take it. I can't take it. Do we have anything else we have to add besides all that terribleness? I mean, we got all the things that we need that are important right now. Going back

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And they're all very interesting. And they're over here laughing vanessa's over here laughing i'm listen i'm just going to tell you i'm not going to like answer these by myself what i'm not we're going to get everybody's opinion this is the whole hotline tell you tell you tell you can't do it you're too young you're 18 and you have little to no experience What so ever Thank you Jesus for that Because you're a good girl Yeah

She's such a good girl Such a good girl Alright Okay So First one Is it okay for spouses To send one another

Sexy photos And or videos Okay Remember that this question Says spouses Not boyfriend Girlfriends Acquaintances Or some pervert on the internet.

Oh my gosh. Okay. If you are not married, you are not to send anything that is lustful of any kind, no way, shape, or form. Is it allowed? That is sin. So do not think that it's cute of you, if you're a girl, to send pictures to someone that you like in a low-cut shirt or dress that comes down to here showing your cleavage. Okay?

Do not take pictures of yourself and post them even on Facebook of you in bikinis and inappropriate attire. Okay? There is absolutely positively no reason. I see this on social media where girls are, they take these photos of themselves in bikinis

and they post them on Instagram and on Facebook and they're posing. What are you thinking? It's sin. You're causing someone to lust. And I think you know it. You're trying to get attention. It's the motive of the heart.

Stop it and knock it off. It's got no, you have no business putting that stuff on there. You think it's cute, but you're causing men to lust. And you like, listen, if you know in your heart what your motive is behind it, you will answer to God for it. Because that's what he's looking at. So if you're not married and you're posting pictures of yourself or you're sending pictures of yourself, texting, whatever, Instagram, Snapchat, name them for me, Tal. What's some other ones? Instagram, Facebook.

TikTok. Thank you. That's it. Don't do it. You're accountable for your actions. That's what the Bible says. And then, guys, if you're going on, because you know there's a particular girl, I'm thinking of a girl that on Instagram,

I see her posts all the time, a lot of them. And it's usually she's in the shortest dress that she possibly could be in. She's got barely anything covering the top, calls herself a Christian. And then on top of that is the bathing shoes she wears, there's nothing to them. Like it's a slingshot.

That's it. And like you're a Christian, it's like there's a famous singer, it's a guy who's married to a model. They both claim to be Christians, their lifestyles. And she's doing Victoria's Secret and getting all mad that Christians are saying, sorry, sister, you can't be dressed like that and call yourself a Christian. How dare they?

How dare they judge her? It's not judging. I mean, well, it is to a certain extent because we're allowed to do that, but you'll know them by their fruit. Your fruit smells. It stinks. It's full of inappropriateness. And if you don't show yourself of good character and you don't say, well, it's a guy should be able to not lust. It's his fault. No. It takes two people to cause somebody to lust most of the time on things like that. If you're going to dress a certain way, for the most part,

unless you just climbed out of the first rock or climbed out of a rock already and you have no idea, like you are like, have no clue on what's going on in and around the world, then you absolutely know that you're trying to get men's attention. You're trying to get men to look at you. And why would you want them to do that? For your ego. Again, all about the motive of the heart. Maybe you're not trying to get them to want to take you to bed or make them lust after you. You just want the ego boost of men glaring and looking at you to make you feel good about yourself. It's still wrong. And if that causes them to lust, then that's on them. They'll be judged based on what they're doing, but you played a part in it and you're going to have to own that. So girls and boys that are not married, boys, keep your

eyes to yourself because girls ain't usually looking at men in the same way guys are looking at girls. And girls, be modest. Don't cause a man to stumble or a guy to stumble. It's not cool. I don't like that nonsense. Okay, so let's go back to the question now that I addressed a bigger issue that I find. That's a bigger issue than answering this question as far as I'm concerned. But I say you absolutely can.

You can absolutely send pictures, sexy photos and videos of yourself i think it's risky as all get out unless you have one of those polaroid cameras oh my gosh or one of those ones that you take a shot oh my gosh this is so dang funny okay and this this is risky so you know back in the day you had you took the picture and the the thing spun or you had to manually make it go like okay so on my honeymoon on my honeymoon um i think it was the next morning we uh we we went to marco island so we went and stayed a really nice hotel on Marco Island. And so the next morning, we're just being stupid like we always are.

And Tom was in the shower and he made these, and I don't know how I walked past the door and I saw this, but he had these, he made these two horns that came down on his forehead. And so I was like, I grabbed

the camera because I think, this is dang funny. What I failed to do is make sure the camera was up high enough. Oh, yeah. So when the picture came back, my husband

was exposed. You had to get them developed back then. So not only did I get the horns, I got everything else. He's like, what is this I see? And here's the thing.

Tom is like such a person. Like he doesn't even, like he gets embarrassed. I don't get embarrassed at all. I actually thought it was the funniest thing ever. And the person that did the photos, the one Dixie at the time, had become really a person that I loved. And I'm thinking, and she used to look through our photos and stuff. I'm thinking, well, she knows what you look like, dude.

That's a sight. So I was going to say, if you have one of those cameras that you can spin or you get the film developed, you're safe. But you're not safe. Because you have to get it developed.

What is that? Aaron said three horns. Pretty much. So dang funny. Oh, wow. It was hilarious. So you're not probably going to be able to do it Polaroid. That's it.

That's the safest bet. And videos, I think the only way you can do a video is if you use VHS tape or something like that. Where do you get that? I know. That's my point. You can pull out the big one that sits on your arm. I don't even know if you can get them anymore. Like those old-fashioned cameras.

eBay? You put it on a tripod all right go ahead i don't even know like how else would you do it because that's not wi-fi or internet one of those big honking like boom boxes that's a camera outside of that i mean you stick it on a tripod have a field day i don't know like what other camera is not got wi-fi i know no no it's a vhs it's a vhs isn't it vhs right vhs with. With the tape. Yes. And then you can get the smaller ones to go in because that's what my wedding's on. Oh, my gosh.

You have to take the big VHS thingy and then you put the smaller thing inside of it. I hope I still have it because that's the only way I'm going to watch my wedding video. Oh, my gosh. I think we only have a VHS thing. I think I have one. Yeah. And that's just so we can play like our old family videos that we do at Christmas every year. Otherwise, I don't even know if you can get one.

Can you even get a VHS? I mean, probably on eBay, but I don't have one. I don't have a VHS player. Well, are you the one that's wanting to do a VHS player?

Sexy photos or videos? Listen. Well, are you the one that's wanting to do sexy photos or videos? Listen. Okay, if you do, I'm just saying, Tracy, you're in big trouble. Because unless you get one of those honking cameras that does VHS videos, you're not having no, you're not, I'm not, I'm saying you can, but it's risky. Yeah, because then what happens? It goes out into the iCloud, just like Logan was saying several podcasts ago, which I totally forgot.

She's right. It goes out on the iCloud. If you do that, can you imagine if somebody, if you ever became something and somebody wanted to use that against you. Oh, yeah. Not good. You wouldn't even need to become something. What if someone got your phone and didn't even know, got your phone, extracted that information, and then just put it out there.

Yeah. Out there on the web. Yeah. And then by accident, somehow somebody you know sees that. Not good. Bad news. It's not good. I mean, what is that?

Just talking about this, my heart is beating. Her heart is beating. Anxiety? Just talking about it. What you been doing, Vanessa? You got something to hide? I've got a whole iCloud to find. Did you give your last phone away that had some pertinent information on it? Oh, my gosh.

That might cause you some grief in the future? Might cause you some trouble? Dangerous. I don't know. I think that it's risky. Super risky. So unless you got a VHS cassette recorder with a tripod, because you ain't going to be able to hold that sucker up by yourself.

Apparently you can get one, Talia. Just must have looked. You can. Go on Etsy. Apparently you can get one, Talia. Just must have looked. You can. Go on Etsy. Apparently you can grab one. I don't even know if you can buy recorder tapes anymore. What an investment. But, oh my gosh.

Put that up. That's it right there. This is the vintage 1990 VHS camcorder with charger and case. Just needs a battery. $19.99 or best offer. That's it right there. That's it. That's what I'm talking about.

There we go. Back in the day, I think my dad's was way bigger than that. Yeah, there's a bigger one. And it was stinking heavy. Yes, they're so heavy. They're so heavy. It's like carrying around. Heather just walked in and she says she does

have one. So if anybody wants to borrow it, she'll let you borrow it. Now we know what it's for. All we ask is that you return it wiped down with alcohol wipes. The lights all up. Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh. That's a lot of work and a lot of investment just to send them. That's a lot of work. Otherwise, take the risk. Look at this one. This is 1980s. There you go. This is a decade before.

We're getting smaller. We're getting smaller. These are nice. Can you imagine? Yeah, I was going to say, imagine the tripod. We'd have to have our very expensive one. Yeah, I mean, the thing better be able to hold up some weight. That's all I'm

going to say. That one was like 10 pounds. The very first one that came out, that was a honker. It was big. You girls don't know nothing about that? You're too young. No, no, no. We used to bring them to Disney World. My dad would have it on his shoulder and bring it to Disney World.

Dad, send me a video. I know he's not watching. Oh my gosh. Mom, you're probably watching. By the end of the day, he must have been like. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And all it was is just like random stuff.

Oh, listen, if he videotapes anything like Tom, it's mostly the ground. Yeah. It probably was. Mostly the ground. Tom is the. It probably was. mostly the ground tom is the listen i would have no like i would have no recordings or anything of our kids when they were very very tiny but i would tell i tell you this the majority of the videotape is either of the video camera on the ground still in the on position just taking a picture of the carpet or the picture

of the presence underneath the picture of the presence underneath the tree. There's nobody that you can't see anybody. I can hear his conversation or he usually had it like he was holding it down, like his hand. He was holding it down. It's just looking at the sidewalk or whatever. He'd forget that he left it on for a very long period of time. And you get nauseated because there's a lot of movement. Of course you do. Right. I know.

I felt like I was on a roller coaster. I do. On Christmas video time, I literally feel like by the time it's all said and done, I need a Dramamine because I'm so nauseated. It's been like I'm on the 10 foot sails and seas of a boat. Oh my gosh. It's measurable. I mean, outside of seeing my beautiful babies

and all of us having a great time. But seriously, I'm sick by the time it's all said and done. I'm like, can you just fast forward? I know, that's what you had to do. It's terrible. But I would have no memories if it wasn't for him.

Because he was great. I'm not a picture person or a movie person, but he is all about that. Again, he's the Hallmark guy. Lookie, lookie, here. I had one of those. I did have one of those. This is what is available on Amazon.

I think I still have one of those. I don't think it works. $65. $65. There you go. I think I still have one of those. I don't think it works. $65. What? There you go. Whoever wrote that question, invest $65 in a powerful Zoom. It is.

It says 16 times Zoom. 16 times. What does that mean? It zooms in. 16 times? Oh, dear God. I know. Can you imagine the visual

Dear lords So the cheaper option here Is to just leave your face out of the pictures And videos That's a great idea Logan She is seasoned Yeah there you go Vanessa Apparently

Someone knows what they're doing she's a cop former cop former law enforcement she'll give you some great tips and tidbits exactly on how to get away with whatever you want to get away with actually a photo on one of my old agencies going around of a sexual act but nobody's faces were in it is Is it people that work there? It was two cops. Yeah. So people were trying to figure out between like their nails and the leg. Did they ever figure it out?

Oh yeah. We figured it out. We're cops. But I mean to the public like no one would know. Right. Yeah. Just don't put your face in it.

Especially if it's for your spouse. Like they know what your face looks like. You're just helping them remember the goods that they're missing at you know work or deployment all right so uh face from neck down yep neck down okay there you go that's from logan for 16 65 99 whatever yeah all right or yeah 65 dollars and 99 cents you two can have that little camcorder. Is that a camcorder? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's considered. Yep, yep. You'll be safe. Hold on one second. And then you're going to have to find a way. None of these are important because my phone is going off. Nobody's important. Then you're going to have to find a way to replay it.

They are people important to me, but. I know. What? Then you have to find a way to replay it because they're on like. Oh, yeah, that's going to be a problem. And you cannot borrow my vhs recorder and then you have to have limits wait wait how far that about this so then we hook it up to a tv and then it's playing on a tv you can do that with those would you

i mean no i wouldn't i'm just, in your house? Again, risky. Especially if you have kids. This sounds very risky. I don't know, man. I don't know. Don't do it. Just don't do it. Okay.

Or if you do do it, do it like Logan is saying. Neck down. No face. Neck down. Wow. Okay. No fingerprints being seen. Makeout no fingerprints. Or FaceTime. I just thought. Wow. Okay. No fingerprints being seen. Makeout on fingerprints.

Or FaceTime. I just thought about that too. No. That doesn't go to the cloud. No, no, no, no, no. I think it still holds all that. It still records it. Yes. No FaceTime call?

I'm pretty sure. Let's do some research. For some reason, I think you can. Logan, I think you can. I think she's right. Maybe I'm wrong about that, though. I am trying to think about that. How did?

Yeah, okay. I got it. Apple may record and store information about FaceTime calls, such as who was invited into a call and your device network configurations, and store this information up to 30 days. So that means if they'll do that. No, but here's the thing. When we would pull and extract information off of the device, we didn't have the conversation

unless it was, unless it was left on a voicemail, right? It does store who you call the times, which is what I think that's talking about. I don't think it's, I think, I'm sitting here thinking, I don't remember us ever being able to do anything with a FaceTime. Because I don't think, you will know who they called and how long the conversation happened, where it was and where they were. Because it pings off the towers. But I'm just telling you, I don't think, I think she might be right. I think you can do FaceTime. Yes. but I'm just telling you I don't think I think she might be right I think you can do FaceTime yes that is true you can

you can take live live photos I don't know if you can hear her but she's basically saying you can do live photos off of FaceTime and it does store those but you're doing this with your significant other you're not doing this with some random person. That is true.

But still, if you're showing your face, they're going to, they could be, she might be right though, too. Like somebody could hack in and take pictures? What do you mean? Yeah, like my husband? Yeah, they could record it.

But what if, like the divorce rate's high. What if they store that on their phone? Now it's still in the iCloud because it's now in the iCloud. It's stored. Do you know what I'm saying? Then you've got to deal with God if you're going to put that out there after a divorce. I don't know.

That's scary stuff, people. Trying to help whoever asked. I know. I don't think that that's a good way to do it logan i don't think facetime's probably safe it's a great idea but i don't think it's safe i think i think tell you the teen has a better idea because you can teenagers definitely know because all like older me like like I don't think techno at all. I just think of you pick up the phone, you answer it.

Kids, they know these devices. Do you know what I'm saying? They know how to do everything on them. They know what they do and that they don't do. I'll listen to a teenager all day long when it comes to that nonsense. They claim that audio video contents on FaceTime are calls are protected by end to end encryption. So no one but the sender and receiver can access them. But do we believe anything anymore?

That's not true. I know that's not true. That's what they claim. That's not true, though. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't believe it either way. So we'll just go with risk reward. There you go. No risk, no reward.

Is that what you said? I said risk reward. Is it worth the risk? Is the reward worth the risk? I don't think so. That's what they'll have to decide. I don't think so. Okay, hope says no.

I say neck down. That's my answer. I think Logan's right. Neck down. And then who cares? Okay. I don't let, I'll be honest with you I'm not taking pictures for nobody This body

Until it gets a lot better It ain't happening It doesn't even look good in the mirror Can you imagine what it looks good in a photo Not happening Oh filters That's a good. Filters. That's a good idea.

Filters, Vanessa. Most of us do not need to be taking photos of ourselves. Oh, my gosh. I have my before and afters right now, and I'm afraid of if they're ever put out into the public. I've literally thought, dear God. Oh, my gosh. What if that ever happened?

People will be vomiting all over the place. That's what will happen. It's not pretty. Okay. It's not pretty. But you know what? I have to know the beginning and the end. You do.

It's important. I just hope they put out both. If that ever happens. Okay, yeah. I hope they just put, like, this is what she started out as, but this is how she ended up. There you go. Yeah. That's right.

I'm doing what nobody else is doing. Going to the gym. There we go. Except for Vanessa. Vanessa goes with me. Everybody else has quit me. No, I'm not quitting. Your husband's not allowing you.

No, we just had a conversation today. So you're back. Yeah, I'm back. That's nice. Yeah. That's nice. I know. Oh my gosh.

I was waiting for that. Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Okay, fine. Hopefully I see it this week. So let's go to the next question. Let's go. How far can a couple go physically before marriage? I love this question.

I love this question. I love this question. Because a lot of people think they can go pretty dang far. You can't. Like people think like, people think even hands in bad places is okay because you're not having sex. It's not true. Anything that causes you to lust,

it stops. So even kissing. Kissing, uh-uh. I mean, I don't know of many people who can kiss, and it's not, I mean, Tom and I, that's all Tom and I did, is kiss. And even at times, that was like, I know personally myself that I lusted.

So, like, that's why I can can say kissing's probably not the ticket. And then you're going, well, what can we do then? I have to at least see if they can kiss good. Well, baloney. If that's the one God's called you to be with, you don't need to be kissing. But you know what? You know what drives me crazy? And I'm jumping ahead of what I wrote down.

Okay, so kissing leads to many, many things. Even if it's just the lust of the heart. But usually kissing does not stop at kissing. It doesn't. It's true. And, you know, but you know what drives me crazy? Is parents that, first of all, encourage their kids to have boyfriends or girlfriends. You shouldn't be dating until you're 18.

Correct, Talia? She's about to turn 18. She said correct. No one, it's an adult activity. So no one should be dating unless they're an adult. And even adults can't handle it. But it's so crazy to me. When my kids were growing up, they were like 14, 15, 16, and people are asking me, so do you have a boyfriend?

Do you have a girlfriend? And when they would say, no, I'm not allowed to date, people would be appalled. How dare your parents? Like I remember somebody saying to my kids, are you mad at your parents because they won't let you date until you're 16 I mean to your 18 like people like encourage rebellion which is the sin of as is which is the sin of sin of witchcraft it's just the same

um but they would be appalled that my kids had never even dated yet. I'm like, they shouldn't be dating. Like if you're going to date at 14, 15, 16, you think you're going to marry that person? The odds are no. Highly unlikely. Does it happen? Yeah, it's a rarity.

And at 16 years old, you think that the people who dated somebody at 16 years old stayed pure until they got married? No. No. Again, highly unlikely. Does it happen? Yeah, but unless you're Amish, probably not.

Truth. I think about the growth from that 16 to like 30 age range, how much you grow and change as a person. So if you do marry really young or like right out of high school. Yeah, she's on. Oh, she is on?

Yeah, she's good. Oh, sorry. No, no, sorry, sorry. Okay, here we go. Sorry. Just the growth of the person, of who you are and who you become. Yeah.

From high school to college even. I 100% agree with you. They say that, keep her on really quick because I'm going to say something about this bit. People say at age 25 is when the brain is fully developed. I literally can confirm that's true because that's when I realized. That's like when a light bulb went off over my

head and I realized you're dumb like you think you're so smart you're dumb man you're dumb and then I realized like everything that you've ever done is your fault you can't blame anybody else wish you could but look in that mirror, because it's all your fault. You're dumb. So can you imagine encouraging your kid to date somebody? I don't get it. I'm like, Christian parents even encourage kids to date. No business.

Does that mean? Like my kids had crushes on kids and they thought they were cute. I didn't care about that. I'm like, that's normal. You're not pursuing it though. You're not mature enough to handle it. So you're not doing it. I don't think there's anything wrong. I don't even think there's anything wrong with liking somebody people liking each other and it's strictly being friends and then they just can't do anything about it they just know there's nothing gonna happen we're not old enough to date I mean both of my kids had that experience they had friends that they actually had crushes on they never did anything with it they weren't allowed that's the way it goes that's life and um i don't i don't even think it's wrong for uh both parties to know that both parties like

each other i don't think there's anything wrong with that either but you can't do anything if that's where it stops right there we know we like each other we know we think we're each other's cute but that's where it ends until you're 18 that's the way it should be there isn't but parents to encourage their kids to be dating beforehand you're crazy and then they wonder why their kid their their grandmother or grandfather before they're supposed to be or um's scars that their kids have to deal with from pain of their heart being broken and seeing their kid cry didn't go to bed at night because they're devastated at the loss of a relationship that was absolutely should have never started and was never going anywhere to begin with but now they have a crushed spirit and it's all because you aren't smart

enough to know that that should have never started from the beginning because they are not mature enough to handle it. I just think like we as parents, it is our jobs to protect our kids. It is our jobs to guard our kids' hearts. It is our job to make sure that they stay pure, that they don't have to like look back at life and say, why did I do that?

And if we set the boundaries, we save them from so much. Most kids, they want boundaries. They don't want you to be their friend. You're not their friend, parent. You're their parent, parent. And if they don't like you because you're being a parent, you're doing a good job. That's a parent, you're doing a good job. That's when you know you're doing a good job. Not your job to be their friend.

That is super dangerous theology. Like I just, I can't stand it when they don't like me. I can't stand it when they're mad at me. Okay. You sound like you're a teenager. Get over it. Mm-hmm. Flip and get over it. They're not going to like you're a teenager get over it flip and get over it they're not gonna like you but they will admire you and love you and know how much you love them when they get older and they see how much you protected them from and then they don't have all these scars and all this baggage that they have to carry from you endorsing, participating, or enabling bad behavior. It's a big deal. Before we close out, though,

do you guys have anything to add to that? No, that's good. That was really good. That was very good. You know, I want you to see some growth. Stand up, Logan. Oh, gosh. Logan has grown a lot.

A lot. Come on, stand up up look at how much our girl has grown i have to turn turn towards right there yeah she's wearing black so you can't see it come here come here she's gonna stand in front of here come around here logan oh my gosh oh my gosh like logan has grown mightily look at how cute turn. Turn around, girl. Turn to the side. You still look skinny. Look at all. I know, I know. Is that the cutest thing ever?

How far along are you, Logan? I have eight more weeks. Whoop, whoop. Listen. We want you guys to stay. I'm going to pray over Logan today because, listen, the time draweth nigh

for this young lady. And she has done good. She has kept the faith. She is standing strong. And she's not letting anybody speak fear or anything over her. She's having this baby natural. And she's doing it her way, not the world's way. God's way.

Yes. Well, that is true. You are doing it God's way. But against all the odds, you're doing it the way you want to do it. And not everybody's in agreement with that. And not everybody is happy about that. But you know what? You don't care. You don't care. You're going to do it your way. Logan v. Logan. And be successful. And I'm super proud of her for that. Me too. Because you know what?

It takes some guts to go against the grain. Even when you have to go against the grain of the people you know and love. Right. So eight weeks, and we're going to have a bouncing baby. I say boy. Nobody knows what it is yet. I say boy. What do you say, Logan?

Boy. What do you say, Vanessa? Boy. What do you say, Trace. What do you say, Logan? Boy. What do you say, Vanessa? Boy. What do you say, Trace? What do you say? Same, boy. You say boy? But Heather will fight everyone.

Heather says it's a girl. Talia says it's a boy. 100% a boy. Listen, you know what I'm going to do? I'll tell you this. If Heather is right, I'm pounding her face in do it can we do it live here oh my gosh i literally will kill her yeah because that means that her prayers are which she's speaking is stronger than ours and i don't like that okay that is not okay it's not okay

no she's not she's not gonna do a party like that she's not. She's not going to do a party like that. She's waiting. I have been trying to figure out those logistics. Oh, okay. I know how we do it. Okay. She takes a picture. She puts it out on the internet. Wait, neck down.

Neck down. No, Vanessa suggested I could like put them out the window of the front of our house and people could just drive by. Oh, my gosh. That sounds like a Michael Jackson moment when he hung his baby out over the side of the balcony. You remember that, Tracy? Yes. Let's not do that. It's a whole Michael Jackson thing.

That is very Michael Jackson. I'm not up for that. Not a balcony, just a window. Not up for that. Oh my gosh. Or it's like a Lion King moment. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Let's not do that. You know what you do? You put a flag outside, pink or blue, outside. You put a flag in the thing and you put it outside and people have to drive by and find out what it is. Or you can announce it for me. Everyone can wait until your next podcast and then we can. I people have to drive by and find out what it is. Or you can announce it for me. Everyone can wait until your next podcast and then we can. I can. As long as I find out immediately. There you go,

Tracy. There you go. I'm not about that. We're not doing that. I wish I could put Logan's face on that. R.I.P. Oh my gosh.

He hadn't had that baby for maybe five minutes and they're already trying to get him for child abuse and take it from him. He worked so hard to get that baby. And they're already confiscating it from him. And he loved it. He's like laughing. Child abuse.

Oh my gosh. What a mess. You're going to kill the baby. I mean, hanging over the railing. Yeah. That was brilliant. He's obviously a new father. Literally.

That's what all dads would do. I got him. Oh, my gosh. He's safe. He's got a blanket over his face. I can't even. Yeah, he was protecting its face. Can you imagine?

Like, I'm looking at the picture right now. Can you imagine being that baby, having to have a cover over your face? Yeah, a blanket. Isn't that what the baby's name was? The name of the baby was named Blanket. It probably was named Blanket after that experience. Probably. They probably had it later in life. I don't even know how to segue into salvation I'm going to be honest with you I have no idea Are we praying over Logan? You know what, we're just going to pray over Logan today I think that's a good idea

It's all good Oh, I see the little girlies They're waving at me through the window How precious So precious Huh? Don't touch that glass Talia doesn't want them to touch the glass

Because she cleans it don't touch that glass. Yeah, Talia doesn't want them to touch the glass because she cleans it. Don't catch that. Look at it. It's all the fingerprints. Get over it, Talia. That's what you get paid for. Yeah, exactly. You get paid to clean the glass, sister.

It keeps you earning some cash. Keeps you around. Everybody's got to do something they don't like to do god knows we have all been there done that so let's pray over logan today say hey listen i want i do i'm being dead serious i want if you don't, that's okay. Like just, I don't want you not to pray because sometimes I say to people, like if you don't have the faith,

then just don't pray because it's okay. It's better that somebody who doesn't agree get out of the way, right? So that their unbelief isn't a part of our belief. But in this case, it's not like that. So, well, usually it's over healings. I'm very careful when it comes to healing and people participating in prayer because doubt and unbelief cannot be there. But let's exercise your faith in seeing how miraculous all this this comes to be and it's going to be a beautiful experience first of all having a child is so beautiful and this is her first but second of all

um it's just like the whole story is just beautiful so let's from the beginning to the end let it let it be designed exactly how God has always had it designed. But not like with Eve. Like he purposely made Eve have pain. You're not going to have that. That's what we're going to believe for. So pray this prayer with me. Stand in agreement.

And let's, yeah, lay hands on Logan. Thank you so much. And let's just, it's an exciting time for this little family. I mean, podcast family, not only her family, but our podcast family. Heavenly Father, we just come to you right now. And Father, we just praise you and thank you for the little miracle that you've given Logan and Chris. And Lord, when all the doctors told her that it was not possible. Lord, you are the mighty physician. And you said, all things are possible to those who believe. They believed and it came to pass and you are blessing them with this little baby. And Father God, as her heart's desire is to have this child

from beginning to end naturally with joy and laughter, painless. Let it be a story and a witness to who you are from the beginning of answering their prayer, from the moment they decided to serve you and make you the Lord of their life, to the time of giving birth. Lord, let it be a witness to who you are in their family and how you see and saw them through each and every situation. Bless them. Lord,

just make her the best mama there is out there. That's what she wants to do. Give them your wisdom, give them your strength, and Lord, bless the work of their hands. And Father, richly bless them with all the prosperity of everything that you have from heaven down. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen. Great things. So we're going to see you on Friday. Friday's going to be a fun podcast.

Fun, fun. So you won't want to miss it. Won't want to miss it. All right. See you Friday. Bye. Bye. Real talk. Real talk. real talk real talk real talk