The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E08 | 02-21-24

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E08 | 02-21-24

Hello, it is Wednesday and I am so happy to be with you today. It's exciting and you know why I am so happy to be with you today. It's exciting, and you know why I'm so happy to be with you today? Because the peanut gallery is full over there. Everyone is back except for Loken. That's true. That's true. We're here.

Oh, Arsenio Hall. I know that. That's not even your era. I feel like I was... I'm in the doghouse right now. I got the... That's my era yeah that's what i used to watch you know he only did that for like three years really yeah uh i went back and watched because it's not as good when you go back and watch it was way better like when you everything is always better when your memory makes, your memory makes things better. Yeah.

Either your memory is going to make things way worse than what it really was. It's like a fish that's this big becomes this big, you know, right. We, our minds play tricks on us. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's not as good as very disappointed. Yeah. Don't waste your time, but like three years. And then he was like, I'm done with this. Yeah, he's the one that put the kibosh on it. Not the ratings because he was doing really good.

I know. So I'm in the doghouse right now with Vanessa. That's what it is. He had the doghouse. Okay, peanut gallery. You know what I think is hilarious you guys are writing in questions and you're referring them to them as the peanut guy i love it i love it we just need to make a peanut gallery i know it's it's um is logan watching logan you hear that did

you hear that logan remember we talked about? You need to get back here. Although, if you get back here, we're just a little, what? Oh, well, no, no. I was going to, Heather's saying she gets the baby. All she's thinking about is baby. Okay. But what are we going to do with Tal? Tal is usually taking pictures.

I know. And then sitting on. So you'll go back to that. We had that one day when we had the stools back here. That was enormous. That hurts my back so bad. Oh, my gosh. The stools.

Yeah, because you have to actually sit properly. And it's not fun. Tal, you should want to do that. Oh, it hurts. Oh, my gosh. It hurts. Oh, my gosh. The complaints of the youth.

Oh, I tell you what. Oh, my gosh. My question is, is how many of you have ever had a child get their wisdom teeth out? It's the dog pound, by the way. Oh, it's the dog pound. Not the dog pound. Dog pound. At least there's dog something.

It's dog something. It's just like me to only get half of it right. Shut up, Heather. The dog house is something negative. good to know thank you for the correction Sarah I could have done without that nobody would have known no Sean does he's telling us on Rumble

of course Sean does Sean said it like two times dog pound dog pound thank you Sean that's funny Norma has her wisdom teeth out I've never been Thank you, Sean. Yeah, Sean. That's funny. Norma has her wisdom teeth out. Yeah. I've never been so happy to be somewhere else in all my life.

I'm just kidding. I feel bad for her. I know. It's terrible. I don't know. Hey, Heather, is it true because your body doesn't accept Novocaine that you probably don't accept painkillers? Is that true? That's not true.

Okay. Okay. I guess they're just making her, well, she's not on anything anymore, but the girl's face is swollen. Not as bad as getting better, but inside, she talks like she has like a squirrel full of nuts right now. Poor thing.

She's got to get better. Huh? She's good. Heather's been, Heather's like, like our little, if anybody doesn't know this, like Heather's past life experience is dental assistant, dental office manager, dental everything. Yeah. She knows it all. Extractions. I've had friends who've had things

like bone spurs in their jaws. Heather's like, let me at it. She's in there pulling the sucker out. If you have any problems with anything gum related, teeth related, see Heather. Just kidding.

Don't do that. She'll walk right past you like she doesn't even know you. But thank goodness. I know. She's very attentive to Norma. But Norma, she's... Poor Norma. Yeah, poor Norma. Poor Norma.

Tommy went through it like that. And then Norma's boyfriend comes over the day it happens. Like she gets surgery Monday morning. And Jagger comes over. And he's like, I was eating pizza the next morning. And she's like, shut up. Which you're not supposed to do that. Yeah, yeah.

He's like, I said, Jagger Which you're not supposed to do that. Yeah, yeah. No. He's like, I said, Jagger, you're not supposed to do that. And he was like, well, I only ate it with my two front. I only ate it with my front. Oh my goodness. I'm like, okay, I still don't think you're supposed to do that. No, I don't think so. I wanted to say, did you take the antibiotics when you did that? Right. Seriously. He's fine.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. He's fine. He's totally fine. I don't know fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. He's fine. He's totally fine. I don't know. He's pretty like, you know what? I said to Norma, this, this is a little private, but we'll just keep it here. No, no, no. I know what I can and cannot say. Cause she's like, she's, she gives me permission and she knows, but you know what I said to her, I said to her last night, I said, you know what? I said to her last night, I said, you know what? I want to talk to you about Jagger. She goes, what?

You don't like him? Like, no. He reminds me a lot of Tom. Wow. And the positive, positive things. And I mean that because a lot of people be as like, he's the aggressive. No, he's opposite of Tom's being like, like, but Tom's not like that anyway. Like in the pulpit, like what you see at home, that's why, that's why Tom says you'll be disappointed if you see me walking around or whatever they would be. He's not lying. But like,

personally, Tom is like so chill. Um, but, uh, for the most part, like if unless he's even when he's in a mood, he just sticks to himself. But I will say this. Jagger, like what guy comes all the way from Tampa to come and sit with her? She fell asleep. I went into the room and she's asleep. And I'm like, it's like 1030. I'm like, dude, do you want to go? He's like, no, I'll stay here.

I'm like, what guy stays there until he has to, you know, he has to be up at six. What guy just does that where a girl's asleep and not even but she falls asleep apparently a lot. Now that's how Tom was. And I think of Heather because that's how Travis was. Like you go on a date.

I fall asleep. Tom didn't care. I'd be like, I'm so sorry. He's like, I don't care. It's all good. It doesn't matter. Like, so low maintenance. That's nice.

Like, that is so nice. But I thought to myself, what a nice guy. She falls asleep. She throws up. He's holding the trash i know it's a mess yeah that is like she's like i'm so sorry he's like i don't care it's all right but like you you dream and i told her i'm like you dream and you hope like it's her first boyfriend so i'm like you dream and you hope that whoever because my first boyfriend sucked eggs. Sucked eggs.

I wish he would have sucked an egg. Oh, my gosh. That's where Norma gets it from. She's, like, done so good. But that's where praying over your kid, who they date, who they get involved with, teaching them to be very picky and particular. That's sweet. I was like, man's sweet. I was, I was very,

I was like, man, really, I was like, what a nice guy. Super nice. Oh my gosh. You only,

you can only hope that your kid would date somebody that's like that. Yeah. You know? Yeah, absolutely. That's amazing. That's about Norma. On to,

hey, Sarah, how was your trip? It was, the word I'm using is glorious. She's nice and tan. She lives in flipping Florida, and she comes back with a tan. Why aren't you tan year-round?

I will be from now on. I've decided that I'm going to make at least one trip to the beach per week. Like 20 minutes, 30 minutes, that's all it takes. True, but I hate the beach. I need to do that. I mean, I hate the beach. I need to do that. I mean, I live, I like going there. I get a pool. Then I'll, you know, or maybe I'll just go to, I have a pool.

Sit by her pool. I have a pool. I don't even use it. Yeah. I've never used it. I think I've been in that pool all of. Shut up, Heather. I think I've had that pool for 20 years now.

And I think I've been in that pull less than 20 times. That's wild. Maybe less than 15. Wow. Maybe less than 10. I feel like Heather knows. I feel like Abraham. Lord, for Sodom and Gomorrah.

If there be more than 20 will you spare it you're thinking of the story when I fell off the float with Norma oh there has to be a video I don't remember I was apparently trying to get on a float with Norma in the pool,

and I kept falling off. That sounds pretty much the same. I mean, listen, like, I'm not in water very often. So, like, I guess I don't know how to operate when I'm in water. I've only been in my pool once. Wow. There you go. I've been in more than that. i've been in more than that like

like why wait i've been in more than that well why is that like when i go down the pressure our pool is super deep because tom was is so tall it's too much work i have to take a shower well my hair's not the issue. Although that is true to a certain extent. Like, I don't have curly hair, which makes it pretty tough, right? But I don't wash my hair about once a week anyway because it's so dry and coarse. But here's the thing. It's the getting out of my clothes, putting on a bathing suit, then looking at myself in the mirror.

Okay, and then going, if I don't want to see me in this thing, who wants to see me in that pool in that thing? Get your clothes back on. Just don't go in the pool. So I don't know. The pool's really not an option for me. And I have found when I go, cause it's so deep, we got one of those play pools. So you can, it's shallow on both sides and then it gradually goes deep. So it's shallow on both sides. And then it gradually goes deep. So you can play basketball and volleyball.

Tom wanted it that way. Which I like it. It was great when you had small kids. Because they could go on either side. Yeah, I love that. But if you go down really low, my ears start. Yeah, you don't need to. Do you guys deal with that?

Your ears start getting a lot of pressure? No? Oh, yeah, for sure. Must just be me. No, no, no. I do. You've never gone in your pool where you even swam? Exactly.

Underwater? That's a new house for you guys. Did you go underwater? Yeah, I went. You went under? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Do you go?

You don't have a pool. But your mom does. I grew up with a pool. Okay, do you go in your mom's pool a lot? All my mom, yeah. But your mom does. I grew up with a pool. Okay. Do you go in your mom's pool a lot? All the time. Still to this day? Oh, yeah.

All summer. It's all we do. Heather goes in her pool a lot, but they go in the hot tub a lot. Oh, yeah. I love a hot tub. Yeah. That works. I don't know.

I don't even get in the hot tub. That's crazy. Because it's too hot. Tom likes it like scolding. Oh, okay. I don't even get in the hot tub. That's crazy. Because it's too hot. Tom likes it like scolding. Oh, okay. I don't like that. Yeah. It makes me nauseous.

I feel like I'm going to vomit when I get out. Yeah, when it's too hot. It's too hot. I agree. Yeah, too much. It's not. What's the point? Turn it down.

No, he won't turn it down. Him and Tommy. The newest thing is the cold plunges. Yeah, the ice plunges. That Tommy's done. Yeah. He loves those. Yeah.

No. Nope. No, thank ice plunges. That's Tommy's son. He loves those. No. Nope. No, thank you. Nope. Yep. That's really good for you. No. I don't know.

Not worth it. Alrighty. That's, oh. Oh, we got pics. We got some photos. I see. Yeah, let's do it, sister. All right.

Do you want to talk about it? So you go to the Cayman Islands. Yep. I'm going to kind of go through random ones. I can't. Where am I looking? Okay. That's live. Okay. Can you see right kind of go through random ones. I can't. Where am I looking? Okay. That's live.

Okay. Can you see right here? That was like the second to last day. Okay. That's her husband, Derek. Yep. That's when we first got on the ship. That's like their, they have a teddy bear that walks around like their mascot or something.

Oh, that is a picture of us when we were ziplining in the rainforest, which he had a great time and loved it. I maybe not so much. You don't look like you love it. I'm not going to lie. In one of the pictures, it was like, I'm smiling, I'm smiling. And then I was like, oh, that's what that looks like right there. Yeah. That was horseback riding in Jamaica.

Awesome. that was horseback riding in Jamaica awesome Derek was learning how to use the the camera generic GoPro that we got some guy came up and was like what model is that he's like oh it's an EK something something I'm like it's not a GoPro it's Amazon Amazon special

it did what it needed to do we actually saw a guy catch a tarpon on the beach in Cayman Islands. That was pretty cool. That's awesome. The ship that we were on, the Ruby Princess, which I don't know if you know.

Oh, that's a good one. Girl look good there. Hey. The Love Boat, the original Love Boat was a princess cruise. Yeah, I know. Girl, I watched Love Boat. what that's the original love boat was a princess cruise yeah i know i used to girl i i watched that was her singing that was not me yeah no that was worth it alone um and then we had the epic failure of the not a failure i did not win the voice of the ocean

rigged that was when i tried out and then they had like um and that was afterwards and what place did you make here i i don't i was second or third they didn't tell us like who they just told us you three are the finalists and then the can Asian lady who sang the Titanic song. Okay, that's where a person who wants to win. That's who sings that song on a ship. She was not good. Okay, that's stupid. But, I mean, that would not be my song of choice.

But I'm just saying, somebody who wants to win is going to sing the Titanic song. By the way, I listened to her. Exactly. Exactly. It was also like she traveled with a lot of people and the last vote was an audience vote. So like all I had was Derek. And then at the end he goes, I think I pressed the wrong button. So I don't even think he voted for me.

Oh my gosh. Well. Well, the poor guy, I know. No, she won by 50%. Sounds about right. It was like she had 50% of the vote

so whatever. Like one vote is not going to make a difference. Derek had one phone live on Facebook and then his phone, he's trying a video so I don't know how he voted with his toes. He was doing his best that's all we

can ask yeah so that's all we can it was um it was glorious for sure the zip lining I can say that I did it but I don't believe I will ever do that again because it's too high um I'm not afraid of heights but it was the okay the the harness is not comfortable comfortable and it wasn't the areas that i was worried about because luckily we needed those for the rest of the cruise it was like it was like the back of my it was our 20th anniversary it was our 20th anniversary um so i wish i would have had a drummer. You got to get that. All right.

We had so much fun and I didn't want to get off of the ship. That's saying something. Yeah. It was. That's saying something. You were gone for 10 days. That's saying something.

So that means you're going on another one. Yeah, definitely. I think I'd like to go with the whole family love. Bring the kids and everything. Maybe try a different cruise line. Rip and run the streets. I heard Norwegian is really good.

That's what I did. I heard they're really good. But I don't know. I think I ate enough to sustain a small orphan child for a year. Or their village. Maybe the village. That's how it would be for me. Food everywhere.

Yeah, exactly. I would like come back and have gained all the weight that I've lost. Yeah. Easily. Oh, yeah. I definitely am on my way. There's stairs everywhere. You know what I mean?

Yeah, it sounds good. Yeah, exactly. We didn't do that. Yeah, I don't know if I would be, I mean, yeah, it sounds good. Yeah, exactly. We didn't do that. Yeah, I don't know if I would be, I mean, I don't know if I'd be exercising. Unless I had, like, I've exercised in Vegas, but that's because Magalas called me and said, hey, we're down here. Are you coming? And I'm like, yes. Which I brought myself.

We did use the fitness center on the ship. Derek's been working out, and so I did Pilates and some other things. I don't know. If I'm on vacation, I'm locked in. Locked and loaded on vacation. I don't know if I really want to be exercising unless I get tremendously bored. And I have to be really bored to want to exercise. Yeah, I was going to say.

Really bored. Well, we paid for like the the extra package and so it included i was like i am getting all of the like everything out of what i paid my money's worth for sure so we did the fitness fitness center and that's good all right i'm glad to be back though we're glad to have you back same for sure yep for sure for sure uh-huh uh-huh go ahead all right so as always we've got our facebook live and we've got a bunch of people on um but i can only see natalie in the comments so hey natalie we love you um if you can hop over make a comment like you can share it to your page real quick and then hop over to Rumble.

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and you just click shop and it's always available for you guys to purchase. I'm gonna hit, did you say Natalie was on? Yeah, she's on. God bless that woman. I was actually gonna talk about this, but you reminded me of it. Yeah.

Then I'm gonna get into the questions. Okay. I even literally thought about this. You know, with Norma getting her wisdom teeth out, like you would sit there and say the dentist would be the one calling you and stuff like that. And the dentist, listen, what do they call those? The oral surgeon, Heather?

So our oral surgeon was phenomenal. But we are with Natalie, who is our nurse. Is she a nurse practitioner? Yes. So there's a doctor, nurse practitioner, then they have a pediatrician and things like that. And we the people. I'm going to give a big shout out to Natalie and we the people. If you need a great facility that has doctors in it, but you're tired of the protocols, I'm not kidding you. And I know that she loves us and she's a friend, but she would do this for anybody.

Like she has been making sure Norma is okay. I cannot tell you how many times I even got a text this morning, how's the patient kind of thing? She's not even. So if you're needing good medical care and most of us, like I don't really ever need it. Most people don't need it. But.

And you don't want to need it because you want to have your faith to, to have it. But, but I will tell you. Even if. your faith to have it. But I will tell you, even if I would have we the people represent us as a family, just so that other people could have we the people. If we don't have these alternative options for medicine, then the people who really do need the alternative options, they will not exist. So, and I've told people this a hundred times. I actually, she was our physician

before. So before she went to We The People, but even if, I kid you not, I would pay the money. I've told people this all the time. I will be a member of this We the People and their medical facility specifically so that others have the option to have it. It's super vitally important that we have alternatives. So if you're needing someone and you're looking for something fantastic, We the People, and if you can, can you put their information in the slide and some of you guys are out of state which stinks but they are looking at doing alternative this as an option in other

areas i think they're only going to be in florida for a while but just telling you phenomenal care sarah's son was just there this morning. Phenomenal care. Natalie, she knocks it out of the park. But it's not something like they're private. And if they don't have enough patients, then the facility doesn't exist. Right. facility doesn't exist. I talked to Jer this morning about, and Naz as well, about trying to figure out how we can credit people to use them versus

Blue Cross Blue Shield. So that's going to be next on our thing. The thing is, everybody wants to shove medicine down you because it's the protocol. And the thing is, there are alternatives, and there are healthier alternatives, and they work far superior.

It's like I don't want to get into the different names because I don't want to get shunned by Facebook and stuff like that. But with COVID, everybody was being forced to take a specific drug when another one that was pennies on the dollar was far superior and more effective. And so that's basically what this organization does. And then they're looking at things that, what eliminates side effects but solves your problem? It's old medicine. Right, exactly. It's the way medicine used to be done.

I know, I know. Like the new medicine is let's get you on medicine that makes you have to take more medicine. And it's not good. Right. So I'm not a big proponent of the way the medical world is done today, but this is perfect. So if you need something like that, what is that?

I have a little update. You have an update? Yeah. On what? The majority of millennials and gen z use subtitles when watching tv survey reveals you can pop that up if you want oh so this just popped up um on one of my friends and she said don't tell hope who sent this to you um so this popped up and it's this is just facts hope i just wanted you to see the survey reveals the majority of millennials and Gen Z use

subtitles when watching television. So I just wanted to, it's not just me. Okay, but listen, I don't want to insult. I'm going to be very offended, so be very careful. But millennials, are you kidding me? You're going to use a millennial, like millennials, a lot of you are millennials. Yeah. I'm not.

Yeah. Norma is a Gen Z. Talia is a Gen Z. Gen Zers are far superior in my head to a certain extent than millennials. Because millennials are super entitled. They don't like do they're super entitled gen z are still entitled but they don't believe every word that is ever spoken millennials like follow the crowds gen zers they hate everybody and they're like we'll research it

and figure it out for ourselves okay not millennials so i'm just saying giving me something that a millennial does, ain't saying much. I'm like, of course they read subtitles. Come on. That's the only work that they do, period, for the day probably. So entitled. Wow.

Not all millennials, but a lot of them. Thank you. Okay, that's all I needed. Yes, you are. Are you a millennial? You are. You're an elder. Not in my mind.

You're an elder millennial. An elder. Yes. Yeah, you're all I needed. Yes, you are. Are you a millennial? You are. You're an elder. Not in my mind. You're an elder millennial. An elder. Yes. Yeah, you're an elder one. Like one of my girlfriends that I worked with from Tennessee, she was a millennial. She's an older millennial like you.

But she's like, everything they say about millennials is actually factually true. She goes, I am one. Yeah. But she's like, do I battle sometimes being like what they say yeah but she's she wasn't but she's like it's true like the um yeah aaron has a disagreement he

said millennials by data are the hardest hardest working and biggest givers so hope you're gonna have to have some you're gonna have to okay and i'd like to i'd like to see the statistics of that okay aaron we need statistics I don't buy it. Drop them in my Dropbox. For opposite of that. Gen Zers are lazier than millennials. That I do believe. That's some shade. That I do believe.

He goes facts. I finally agree with something you say. That I believe. But millennials, come on. So don't, like, subtitle that I believe but millennials come on so don't like subtitles

no ask Aaron if he reads has subtitles on his TV while he's watching it Naz says she's a millennial

and she likes subtitles and you like Naz what's that got to do with anything she's a millennial and you like her I love's that got to do with anything? She's a millennial and you like her. I like a lot of millennials. But I'm just saying

your group as a whole, your group as a whole have an entitlement mentality. No, I agree. 100%. Which causes you to be lazy. Right. Because you feel entitled.

God forbid you have to work a nerve or you have to do something yeah it's not good yeah and it's hard and it's hard but gen zers if it's hard they just walk away and go the opposite direction oh millennial that is so true well at least yeah try and tackle it yeah yeah no that they will try to a certain extent and then pout moan and groan because they had to be forced to do that. A Gen Z-er just gives up and walks away. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that. It's not good. But Gen X. We're in. Well, it's better than what people call me. They call me a baby boomer, and I am not in the baby boomer category. No, no.

Do you know what they call Gen Z zoomers now? Zoomers? Oh, really? Yeah. It's the term. I don't know which one I'm in, but I'm definitely not a baby boomer. You're Gen X. Gen X.

Yeah. We work hard. Yeah. We work hard for the money. You do. And you're loyal. We work hard for the money. So hard for it, honey.

My kids the other day said, Mom, you're from the 1900s. Oh, no. I mean, he's not wrong. He's not. As if that's a bad thing. Like so long ago. My kids saw something from 1980s and they're like, that was a long time ago. It was.

I graduated in 1985. What are you talking about? That's funny. It might not have been my kids. It might have been somebody else, but I was in 85. What are you talking about? That's funny. It might not have been my kids. It might have been somebody else, but I was highly insulted. It's like how I felt when my parents told me they graduated in the 1950s. Yeah, exactly. So long ago.

So long ago. I know. It's not that long ago. It's really not. It's not. So, okay. You actually tuned in for question and answer time. I know.

These are good, too. We have not yet to get to it, and it's 30 minutes in. These are really good. I'm excited. So let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it to it. Okay. I'm hoping you can help me figure this one out.

Paul says that if a married unbeliever departs, the believer is not bound. But if a man who claims to be a believer leaves his believing wife, is the wife still bound after divorce? Or do we assume the husband is really an unbeliever because he is acting contrary to scripture? I highlighted that because there's truth to that. Sometimes you can be, but sometimes you're struggling with sin. I also find this confusing. Jesus says in Matthew 5 that if a husband divorces his wife for a reason other than sexual immorality, he causes her and anyone who marries her to commit adultery.

Thank you for your insight. I really enjoy your podcast. God bless. I enjoy you watching it because really, if you don't watch it, I got nothing for sure. And that's just all of us talking amongst ourselves with nobody watching. I mean, we'll still have fun doing that and we would still do that. Yeah. It's way more fun if people are watching. I agree. So we're going to look at first Corinthians 7, 10 through 15, which is the one you referenced. And then we're going to look at 1 Corinthians 7, 10 through 15, which is the one you referenced.

And then we're going to break it down because a lot of people don't like what they think they know about divorce and adultery and everything. They don't understand what was going on in the Eastern world in biblical times and still happens today. Because women were thought to be property, not like in America, we're valued, right? We, we, we're held in high esteem. A lot of times we have a voice, you know, women, women's lib, you know, kind of thing where over in the middle East, you're still property. It's in some cases, it's not as bad because women are working and it has become somewhat liberal in the thought process of things.

But there are still areas and cultures that it is like women do not show their faces. They are thought to be less than men. They are thought to be property or just like if a woman dresses a certain way provocatively, you take her and you can toss her aside. That's what's happening over in Europe with all of these Middle Eastern cultures moving in and invading. In Sweden, in Germany, the rape is at an all-time high. It's because sexual, if a girl dresses a certain way sexually, then she is vulnerable to being, what is it? What is the other word?

Because I don't want to get me banned because that can't say that R word. Sexual assault. Sexual assault. Thank you. Is that basically the same one? Because that R word can get me in trouble too. Some people will say S-A.

S-A. Oh, S-A. So that's what it stands for. After I said it, I went, I'm not allowed to say that. Yeah. Yeah. It could go either way.

Otherwise, yeah, because it can go, believe me, they're patrolling and trolling to get us for the, that's why we say go to rumble all the time. Yeah. Because just me saying that one word can cause me to have big trouble. Yep. Yeah. It's ridiculous. First Corinthians 7, 10 through 15 says,

keep your marriage vows. Now to the married I command, yet not I but the Lord. A wife is not to depart from her husband. Now, if you're reading Corinthians, this is Paul talking. A wife is not to depart from her husband. And the word depart here is very important.

Depart from her husband. But even if she does depart, let her remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband is not to divorce his wife. But to the rest, I, not the Lord, says if any brother has a wife who does not believe and she is willing to leave him, let him not divorce her. And a woman who has a husband who does not believe, if he is willing to live with her, let her not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.

But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart. A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace. Okay. It's super important. I read that. That's the King James version. And I don't know. Did you put it as King James? Yeah, exactly what you did.

Oh, perfect. Because the new King James is different. And listen, I'm not saying to always stick with King James because that's hard to read for a lot of people, including me sometimes. These thousand, all the certain words. I mean, I literally have to pull out a dictionary sometimes because I'm like, I don't even know what that means. And then even that word in the Greek, like when I study the Perry Stone, when I'm studying with it, which is I use it every

single time I study, I also will read what the scripture is saying in the King James. And that specific word will be different than what you believe it is because it's done in greek now sarah you have the perry stone have you read from it yet have you used it yet yes do you love it i do love it it opens your eyes differently correct i wish i could stick it in my pocket it's quite large it is yeah i wish they had an app i agree with you yeah but it changes how because you now understand why it was said things were said the way they were said to who they were said and the meaning behind them correct yes it opens the word of god are you using yours what do you think about yours amazing it's amazing yeah it changes everything like i knew it'd be good but i didn't expect it

to be like as good as it is. It's life changing. Yeah. I say that all the time. If you don't, and listen, again, I know a lot of people don't like Perry Stone, but he is very knowledgeable. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Take his Bible and don't listen to his voice because a lot of people don't. Or you don't even have to like, I'm just saying, the man understands the culture in that time period. And he will totally open the word of God to you. It's like, what does that Bible cost now? I can't remember. I've just bought two. I think it's like $2.25 for the whole set. Yeah, it's nothing.

I paid like almost $4. Was it? Yeah. When I bought mine? Which I bought mine before you so it was almost five hundred dollars which probably is true because i was like i was gonna say it's like four hundred dollars but it's caught it's dropped but the thing is is he only made a certain amount and he said after those are gone they're gone so so the old and new testament is 295 so everything together is 295

for the old and see i bought them when they first came out. Like, as soon as I heard that he had done that Bible, and they were hot off the press, me and my mom bought ours. And, like, I don't even know how long ago that was. The chestnut. So that's the Navy Partner Edition, the Standard Edition. Yeah, you have to be a partner with him to get that one. Okay, so $2.25 for the Old and New Testament bundle.

You'll never regret it. If you're looking for a really great gift for somebody, get it for them. It's the best. But we're going to read from there because, again, he understands the culture and he understands why it is what it is. We're going to go to Matthew 5, 31 through 32 first before we do that. It says, it hath been said, whosoever shall put away his wife, put away is super important. Let him give her a writing of divorcement. So you had back in biblical times, people would just leave their spouse up and leave them without a divorce.

Okay. But he's saying, if you're going to put her away, meaning get rid of her, give her a letter, give her a divorce in writing. And then it goes on to say, but I say unto you that whosoever shall put away his wife,

saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery. And this is Jesus speaking. And whosoever shall marry her that is divorced, committed adultery. So if you put away your wife without filing for divorce and giving her divorcement papers, she wasn't able to do that. She had no rights. So if a woman was put away and then another man took her as his wife, now they're committing adultery. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does.

And if you get involved, so what would be happening is men would get involved with another woman, marry her, now he's committing adultery because does that make sense? Yeah, it does. So if you committed, if you divorce your wife, if you divorce your wife and give her a letter of a divorce or give her a divorce and then she married somebody else, you are no longer committing adultery. Does that make sense? Because you're getting rid of her.

That's why, like if, if somebody, if you, if, if there's no divorce, I mean, if there's no fornication,

if there's no adultery and somebody wants to get out of a marriage, let them get out of it. Let them file for divorce. Yep. Then when they divorce you and they put you away, then you can remarry because they're basically saying, I'm abandoning you. I'm getting rid of you, which in Deuteronomy says, if you are abandoned, then you can. And then if somebody commits fornication or adultery, you can.

If somebody wants to divorce you, let them divorce you. But don't you file for divorce. As soon as they divorce you and get rid of you, then you're golden. Okay? Let's read Perrystone notes for this. Let's see, 531 through 32. It says, here Christ explains a bill of divorcement which the law required to make a divorce legal. Without this official legal document, if someone simply left their companion without the legal separation by the law and remarried

they would be in adultery which it says to go to Matthew 19 1 through 12 which we will and it came to pass that when Jesus had finished these sayings he departed from Galilee and came into the coast Again, put away is super important because they're basically getting rid of. And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female? That does away with any homosexuality and getting married to the same sex. And said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife, and they twain shall be one flesh.

Again, this is King James. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, Again, this is King James. But from the beginning, it was not so. But because you guys pushed the issue so much, because around Moses' time, things were very liberal. People were like, just, if the wife didn't like, if the husband didn't like something the wife did, you just get rid of her for nothing.

And so what Jesus is saying, there should be stricter rules and guidelines you can't just find a wife she doesn't sweep the floor correctly or she doesn't clean the way you want her to or whatever the case may be you can't just toss her aside and then marry somebody else now you've made it so that she can marry no one she's left to herself and then you know and if she enters into a relationship and marry somebody, now she's committing adultery all because of something someone else did not like. And he's saying it's too liberal. You guys need that. There should be strict guidelines.

But Moses and Moses's time is very liberal because Jesus was saying, because the hardness of their hearts. And that's why you have to really guard your heart because you'll do things. If you don't guard your heart, you will become hard-hearted and you will do things that you normally wouldn't do when you have like the love of God moving in you continuously, when you have the word flowing through you all the time, you know, when you're praying and worshiping, it keeps things like it keeps things pure. It keeps your heart is what's judged. Right. So the closer you stick to him, the more you'll think like him, the more you'll be like them. The further away and you live in a carnal world or carnal nature and do whatever you want to do,

the more the hardness of heart happens. Okay. And I say unto you, whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery. And whoso marrieth her which is put away, doth commit adultery. His disciples said unto him, if the case of man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. And this is what it says. Let me make sure I'm reading the right one before we go on. Yep, I am. It says, this is an important discourse concerning divorce and remarriage.

God's original plan was for one woman to marry one man, becoming one flesh, living as husband and wife until death separated them. In Christ's day, there were two views on divorce and remarriage, one conservative and the other quite liberal, which is what I was just saying. The liberal view held that a man could divorce his wife for almost any reason, including not preparing his meals in a manner pleasing to him. Christ, however, aligned with the conservative view

that the only reason for a divorce was marital unfaithfulness, fornication, or adultery. One of the conflicts during this time was that some husbands were separating from their wives and remarrying divorced women, were put away okay without proper legal bills of divorcement thus if there was a separation in remarriage without a legal bill of divorcement the man was in adultery still legally married to his wife and having relations with another woman There are a few individuals who have what some term the gift of celibacy, and they were born as eunuchs.

I'm not going to even go down to that because it goes into further about the last part, which is it is not good for a man to marry, which is being a eunuch, which we know eunuchs, let me see. There were eunuchs like Daniel was a eunuch, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego eunuchs, but they weren't born eunuchs. They were actually castrated so that they wouldn't go anywhere. You guys know that? No, not.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, when King Nebuchadnezzar came and he took them, he castrated them so that that's all they would do is be in his kingdom. They would be prophets. They were the top of the top.

So they were chosen, right? And so some people, it says in Scripture, some people are born eunuchs, some people were made eunuchs, and in their case, they were. Like, I take a hard, I take a hard, I'm very conservative when it comes to divorce. Very conservative. Because Jesus was super conservative when it came to divorce. And there's reasons why, you know, a lot of people have a very liberal viewpoint today. When they fall out of love, well, you fall out of love, but you've got kids.

And there's consequences for those kids when people fall out of love and they've grown apart. All these different theories and theologies and mindsets, it's all carnal. It's all carnal because if the relationship was God-centered, all of those things can't happen. It's not even possible. And so it's like being burned out. You can't, if you, in ministry, if you are doing what you're supposed to be doing,

spiritually speaking, it's impossible to be burned out. The only way you burn out is when you let your carnal nature get involved in your ministry. And then you get burned out. But you can't get burned out when your focus is him. You cannot fall out of love and you cannot grow apart if, and even if one person in the marriage is not treating the other one as they should, if you are God-centered, what they do is irrelevant to how you respond to them,

to how you treat them. If that's the case, then Jesus could have treated all of us like crap, but he didn't and he doesn't. And we are the bride bride of christ so we don't have the rights to just like dismiss one another to discard one another when we don't feel that ooey gooey lovey feeling and a lot of times people have a mindset that marriage is like hollywood the hollywood mindset of marriage where it's always like like what you see in the movies that's not real love is a commitment and can you have all those feelings yeah you can because I know it's true I have a I have a great marriage

like being married is not hard for me every day is super easy every day that I see him, Tom, for the most part, it's very rare that I'm not like, yay, yay, yay, yay. And when I'm not yay, yay, yay, yay, it's usually me or it's him being carnal himself and me just being like, he's going to have to work through whatever he's going to work through or I've got to work through whatever I've got to work through, but still not responding to him or me responding to him in a fleshly way,

which escalates things. You get over yourself, you move on, and then everything goes back to normal. But if you allow your feelings to dictate how you respond, then your marriage is going to be rough and it's going to be tough. And that's not what it's all about. And that's why I think we have a lot of times a higher divorce rate because people live by their feelings. They justify their wants and their needs. They justify if they no longer want to be married, they justify why they don't want to be married. Have you guys ever had a job where you love the

job at the very beginning? It was the best thing since sliced bread and then you start hating that job and now you start picking apart everything about it that you no longer like you don't think it's great it's like everything that you never saw before that was the negative is like compounded because you just went out because you don't like this job anymore have you ever I've had a job that I'm like, why didn't I see this before? Yeah. I didn't see it before because I loved what I loved the other the company or I love the people I work with or whatever the case may be. And then your feelings start turning. And then all the negatives start being like, like in your face, like red lights, like every single time like one little thing happens and it's like way worse than it in your in your mind sometimes it's way worse than it

really is sometimes it is that bad but yeah yeah um it's like so much more than it ever was before and it's because you want out and that's how people are with marriages yeah yeah they start justifying why they want out just like you justify wanting to quit a job. Yeah. Because it's no longer great. Right. Okay. Well, you know, when you're married, it ain't your job.

So guess what? You're committed. Yeah. You're tied together. Yep. You are one. So you better figure it out and you don't get to quit. And every time you see something that's like glaring at you,

that's a huge negative, you take it into the prayer room and your prayer closet and you start working through it so that you can maintain. Does that make sense? I mean, for me, I've known people who have had tough marriages. They didn't quit. They figured it out. I've known people who literally said, Lord, you're going to have to make me love this person because I don't love them at

all. Yeah. I can't stand them, but bring the love back. Yeah. And he did. Yep. Yeah. Examples. Anything you want to add? Um, I, the one thing that I would say is a lot of people like get divorced for the same reason they got married is like they fell in love and then they fell out of love. That's a great point. All the time. That's the one thing that I hear from,

you know, not necessarily Christians cause they use the Christian ease way of saying it, but like in the world it's like, well I just fell out of love and that's so sad. I'd never even thought about it like that, but it is so true. You fall in love, right? Fall out. Right. It's so easy. It's so sad. I'd never even thought about it like that. But it is so true. You fall in love and you fall out. Right.

It's so easy. It's so easy. It's why, like for me, and I know it's, I know me and Tom are the extreme, but I didn't, I didn't fall in love with him fast. It was a process of, is this the right person? Is this who God has for me? What are the pros? what are the cons yeah i looked at it to be honest with you my heart was fully in but at the same time my brain was fully into it wasn't more it was not a i'm just gonna follow my heart yeah no no my brain

it better be working. A lot of people, they just follow their hearts. You better be like dissecting things. Spiritually speaking and you know. Your heart is incredibly wicked. Good point.

And deceitful above all things. So you better be thinking with your head as well. It's really easy to fall in love with somebody, but if you fall in love with them so quickly, you might be able to fall out so quickly. Instead of a slow methodical process, a very slow spiritual process.

And I'm not saying it has to take three years because three years is way too long. Tom and I should have been married within a year and a half. Yeah, I think that's a year, 10 year and a half. Yeah. So, you know, you know, after a year. Yeah. And then just get married. Right. Like if you know, after a year that this is the one, then get married quick, you know, but take a year to like figure out and pray yeah a year's a long time it is a long time yeah it's a long time you don't need to be dating for three years but you better i mean you can figure it out in a year yeah but you better be you better be more than just your heart in it right better have your head in it yeah agreed or yeah absolutely and

aaron just said a big part of that too is finding somebody that you see yourself partnering in ministry with if you're if you're a christian yeah a lot of but a lot of people don't even see the the see aaron was kind of in ministry before then right but tom and i were not right and so I would have never thought, is this somebody I can do ministry with? Okay. Which is a good thing to like, that is a very good point. So what did you, like, how did that work then? Like, did you see yourself doing anything for God's kingdom together? Or did like, did you just think like, he's going to be a great dad one day? Like, how did you process that? Cause I did think the same thing. Like I could see me and Jer doing something in ministry. No, I did not think of Tom and I doing anything in ministry. No,

even though it was prophetically spoken over us, like before, but I like, I've tuned all that out. Wow. I'll be honest with you. I did not even, I never thought, I mean, we did choir. Okay. He was head usher. I worked in the nursery. I worked in the nursery. I didn't have kids, but I worked in the nursery. No, I just always thought the most we would ever do is like lead a Bible study. Yeah. Maybe.

Wow. Yeah. I never. Interesting. Very interesting. I didn't consider even doing ministry with him. All I cared about is God, is he the one you told me? Okay. If he was the one that God told me, then the rest was going to fall into place.

And that's as far as I considered it. Super interesting. Yep. Very interesting. Yeah. And the thing is, is like, and Tom just said this the other day, but again, it goes to the point of what I just, I spoke on this um and that teaching why do we do what we do i think it is yep but you seriously or it might have been before that

one or might been after that and i don't remember but again you don't marry the person you can live with you marry the person you can't live without yeah that is a truth yeah you don't want to live with you don't want to marry somebody you can live with that sucks yeah yeah there are very few people in life that you can't live without yeah there are very few people I can honestly say there are very few people in this life that would devastate me yeah but that's how you have to look at your future spouse. It would be devastating if I did not live the rest of my life with this person. I don't know if I could even want to go on without living outside of God. You know,

it's that big of a deal. And I truly felt like that with Tom. Like I knew, like we spent every waking moment. And then when he would break up with me, as much as I did not act like I cared, cause I act like I did not care. Right.

Inside. I was like, how am I, how am I going to do this right like right I found it like how can how's that ever going to happen again right because I don't think I've ever felt like this about anyone ever in my life or every waking I still feel like that to this day i could some some men when they retire i've heard them say i gotta find something to do because my wife i i drive her crazy yeah or i'm driving her crazy um being at home all the time like this helps like they'll get find like a part-time job or whatever and it's like good because i'm getting out of the house because I was driving my wife crazy never in a million years yeah like for me every time I've been able to work from home or if Tom when Tom retired and I was working from home and here like for me I was like this is the best thing ever like my dream has come true yeah we're We're together all the time. Yeah. There's I,

we never fight and we so enjoy each other. And like, I never, never once ever thought, Oh gosh, he's coming home. What am I going to do? Yeah.

It's like, yes, more time together. Yeah. So for me, I'm like, you have to, that's how you have to feel.

You have to feel like I want to spend every waking moment. Like when Tom's like guy vacations and stuff like that, Tom never wanted to go on those. He's like, no, I'd rather go with you. Now, do I enjoy going and doing things with other girls? Yeah. But I'd be lying if I said I'd rather do it with the girls than him. Because if I had my choice, I would do it with the girls than him. Because if I had my choice,

I would do it with him every single time. Yeah. Yep. So I think it has to be that way. When you pick your person, like it has to be that way. I think that's a great gauge. It is.

It really is. It doesn't matter. Falling out of love is just a small portion of it. It's like your best friend. Right it doesn't matter. Falling out of love is just a small portion of it. It's like your best friend. Right. Right. Exactly. It's like losing your best friend.

Yeah. Which is way more than falling in love. Right. Yep. The fact that it's called falling at all seems a problem. Well, you just got off a zip line. So that might be a little trigger word for you. Yeah.

That might trigger you. So I totally get that. But yeah, I mean, it's true. Falling in and falling out. Yep. But I never thought about that, falling in and falling out. Isn't that interesting? It is.

Because it's super easy to do both. Yeah, it is. And it's temporary. Feeling based. All feeling based. Right. And totally temporary. You have to decide every single day.

I'm going to love this person. Every day. Yeah. And that's it. I mean, listen, I'm just saying like some days nobody should ever let themselves go. I'm not saying that,

but when your spouse married you looking like a certain way, like, and then you change that's rough that's when you better hope that it's the i can't live without right yeah because you're now asking that person to and people say well i had a had a kid. So then I'm sorry. I know lots of people, no plastic surgery that look phenomenal after they had kids, you know, it's possible. So for me, we're asking a lot out of each other, one another, if we don't try and look our best to be, men are visual so that we're visually appealing to them and listen i literally know what i'm talking about here because i just went through and i'm still trying

to lose weight and get in shape and stuff like that but i felt like i even said to tom dear old me oh my i don't even know how you even were attracted oh my god because gross but he's like oh no it's like for him that's not but to some men yeah it's a problem and there are some men that like a heavier girl and then you start losing weight and then they don't like that either and it's like there's a there's a balance because i've known men that prefer chunkier girls, and that's what they like. Tom would prefer a meatier person than a skinnier person. It just depends.

Which in my case, I was a little too meaty. But still, it does matter. If you're based everything on feelings, you're going to have a big problem because forever is a really long time. It is. It is. It's a long time. People don't realize it because they feel like, I feel like this. Yeah.

But you might not feel like that. Yeah. So you better, like Vanessa said, love is a commitment. So you better be committed. Yeah. Thick and thin. Yep. Good times, bad times. times yep good in the bad being able to hold somebody's hair back while they throw up in the

toilet you gotta do that in the trash can yep like it's all those things it is oh yeah all those things and more and more because like for me like i don't know. Like, when I married Tom, Tom changed probably as many diapers as I did. He definitely picked up all the vomit. I did not because I couldn't do it. I mean, all those things you have to think about when you're choosing your person. You do. Like, is that person going to do the things that I can't do? Are they going to moan, groan, and complain about them and make me feel guilty because I can't.

You've got to like, people don't realize it's a big, it's forever. Thick and thin. Good times, bad times. Easy and hard. Sick, which if you're a believer, sickness is not an option. But does it happen because people's faith isn't there?

Yeah, I'm one of those okay it's happened to me but never again and that's how i feel about it but there have been times like you got to think about all those things it's super important yeah absolutely so yeah marriage is not nobody's being put away unless for fornication or abandonment. That's it. I'm very conservative on that. Yeah. Oh, how about you? Yeah, absolutely. I totally agree. And even when I had to go through this situation when there was an affair in my previous marriage, and I just said like, listen, you're going to have to make the choice. I'm not getting divorced. And so, and then God honored it. And he knew even though you were, you could have,

yeah, I could have, but I just like, I'm not going to go get remarried in a month from now. So I'll just sit and wait. Like it was no different except just knowing what was going on. But I don't know. It just, it worked out for me. And that is always my suggestion to other people is let them make that choice. And you never have to wonder, you never have to be like, well, what if they did change? And what if that was blah? Um, cause it's a terrible situation to be in, you know? So the best thing to do is just like trust God. Don't make quick decisions. And either getting in a relationship or getting out of a relationship.

Yeah. Be very slow. Yeah, absolutely. And be pure. Have a pure mind in it too, especially getting into a relationship. Yeah. Because that like changes things when you start messing around. It changes the relationship. Yeah. Cause that like changes things when you start messing around, it changes the dynamic.

And it's not right. And it's obviously it's hell bound, but even more so it changes, not more so, even so it changes like how you see them, you know? And it's, I don't know.

You cross lines. When you cross lines, it makes the commitment that much bigger. Yeah. Because now you are bound. Like you now are one flesh whether you wanted it or not because that is a marital activity. Right. So once you start like breaking down walls and things like that,

then it is harder to depart. Yeah. And harder to make a decision to leave. Right. Unless you are living in sin. Right. If you're living in sin, then it's not really even a big deal because it's not even a blip on the screen.

But people who actually make a mistake and then they're like, I should have never done that. Well, now you have a harder time walking away. It's very difficult. Things get clouded. Yep, absolutely. Yep. Add something?

So especially with believers, like your partner, the person that you're going to commit to, like they can make or break you in ministry. Like I think of my situation where I'm opening my home every single week. And yesterday we had almost 30 ladies and even more children, I'm pretty sure. And not once has Jeff said, let's, this is too much. We got to shut this down.

Although I did see something on Facebook. Oh, his video. You had your house open. That was the other night. That was a dance party. That was, that was so hard in all my life.

Oh my gosh. That is perfect. That was the dance party. That was a dance party. I never laughed so hard in all my life. Oh, my gosh. Like, that is perfect. That was the dance party. That was a whole separate night. No, that's all you girls talking. And he was like rolling his eyes. Yeah, that was not Tuesday. Not Tuesday.

No, that was a Friday night. That was a Friday night. Yeah, that was interrupting their Friday evening. That was funny. They do make or break. They make or break. People don't get it you better be on the same like as far as uh as as ministry goes and stuff like that you better be on the same way same wavelength and even if you

don't even know it because that's where praying and seeing if god has them if the god if that's the right one for you then if you're a woman you'll follow him wherever he goes because you know god has ordained you to be together yeah and if you're a guy and you know that god's called you then you know that woman's going to be by your side the whole entire time so sometimes listening to the holy spirit tell you that that's the right one but part of it is saying okay i feel called to be in ministry is this person even because you might not know but if you do know, you better ask those questions. Because it's very important. Which you guys were already in ministry when you were dating.

Yeah, we met while we were serving. Doing ministry. Yeah. And you knew. You guys knew. So, like, you knew you were called to do ministry. It's totally different. So you better make sure versus somebody who has no idea.

You gotta be like-minded, right? Equally yoked. In everything. Yeah. Even if it's something that you don't see eye to eye on, you better be in agreement that that does not matter. Yeah. Yeah.

Because it's super important. And people will go, well, you're nitpicking. I'm like, you're not nitpicking. This is forever. Yeah, exactly. This is forever. Yeah. exactly. This is forever. Yeah. So, Sarah, did you have two cents you wanted to add?

You're looking up something. No. Oh, okay. I was sharing the whole hotline on Facebook. I know. A little late, but it's okay. I love you. People still watch the replay.

Hashtag replay. Hashtag replay, Tal. Yeah, Tal. Hello. Come on Tal. Hello. Come on. Go ahead. Do you have something you want to add? It could be no.

No. I think you guys covered it. It's definitely the second biggest decision you'll ever make. The first one being to make Jesus the Lord of your life. Yeah. And here's the thing I will say about Sarah, your perspective on everything is slightly different because while you've been married,

how old were you when you got married? Well, this is my second marriage. Okay. So this time I was 26. So young. So you were young. Yeah.

Okay. I was older, a little bit older, but still. So you were young yeah okay i was older a little bit older but still so you were young and then what's different about yours even even with this particular marriage there have been times where you've been in and out of your walk with god correct 100 okay so even through that process you guys you stuck together. And that's where people say, well, you don't know. I walked away. Okay, right there is proof.

You can still stick with it. I will also say that I chose Derek with very different, like I was not in love with him when I married him. I was already a mom. Okay. And I had made a list of things. Okay. And I said,

if I'm going to get married again, he's going to have these things. He was a really hard worker and he was great with Taylor. And I knew that pickings were slim in this area. Isn't that interesting? You married somebody you weren't in love with. Yes. Again, that goes to show you don't have to fall out of love.

Right. And then I've grown over the years and that's why something I think is really interesting is arranged marriages that there's actually like a higher percentage of, yeah, it's like a 90% success rate in arranged marriages. No way!

Yeah. Morm is that very high what it's not based on oh i fell in love it's you know compatibility because they because the thing is is in an arranged marriage the parents are arranging the compatibility of the two individuals they know their son or daughter they're putting the son and daughters together. And they understand what they need, both need versus it only being the exterior of what somebody looks like versus personalities and what makes it work. Because a lot of times those arranged marriages

are not Christians. They're like... Indian. Muhammad. Yeah, Buddha. So they're going into it already knowing that this is a choice and this is a commitment as opposed to oh i just feel this way and so that is i would have never i never even thought about arranged marriages but i would have never thought that they had but that's because it is based on compatibility. And you chose based on a list. Was it had any compatibility things in it?

Like he has to be this kind of like personality or anything? Did you care about that? I'll be honest. He didn't meet all of the things on a list, but it was enough to where, okay. And then. This will do. Yeah.

I was like, this is as then. This will do. Yeah. I was like, this is as good. And God had me. Like, he knew. So even though I was not living good, now looking back, like, thank God it's Derek. Because we are very well suited for each other. Not that we haven't gone through some things because we have. Yeah, but that's my point. My whole point to that is it's not based on feelings.

The divorce rate in India is 1% and 90% of their marriages are arranged. That's incredible. Bring back arranged marriages. Listen, I'm all for it. I know, me too. Bring it back. Let's bring it back. Let's start here.

Foundation Church. Not a cult. I'm all for that. I think there's some of that already happening. I mean, we're all like, hey. I'm interested. I'm highly interested. I have my reasons, but I'm highly interested.

Me too. Obviously works. Good fruit. That's crazy. 1%. That's also mentality of never give up, never quit. Yeah, it is. And I can't stand quitters.

I cannot stand it. I know. So, I mean, listen, if somebody's cheating, get the heck out. Yeah. I would never, never in a million years. Me and Tom both have always said, if that ever happens, see ya. Yeah. I like myself too much. Mm-hmm. I'm too much not doing it mm-hmm I'm not doing it but that's very interesting so okay well we're done I'm like so intrigued by that I cannot even believe that

it's interesting I'll send a question in so we can keep talking about it seriously blown away by that arrange marriages people think we're a cult already can you imagine if we start doing arrange marriages and it gets out there. And then on top of that,

somebody recently sent me a thing about compounds. There's neighborhoods that are being developed for specific denominations. It's in progress. Where? Maybe? It's us. It will really be.

You don't know yet, but we're... It will really be considered. I'm okay with that. I'm okay. I'm okay with that. As long as we steer clear of the sister wives, I think we'll be good. Listen, I ain't sharing squat. Ain't sharing squat.

Lost your mind. Never. I know. I mean, if I'm not married to Tom anymore, or whatever, and I end up marrying Tracy, then Heather's got to come into the picture. And I will share. Okay.

Listen. Sister-wise on a different level. But I am not doing the Jer Tracy in me. I'll do Heather Tracy in me. Okay. Because that makes sense. Yes, it makes sense. Totally.

Absolutely. But I'm just saying, no way. Listen, Sister Wives already entered the chat on Rumble. You never know what's going to happen in Rumble. So if you're not in there. There will really be a cult. It's already happened. Yeah, they already missed it.

You know what I find? 14 minutes in. You know, 14 minutes late. I'm going to say this. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. But you know what I find so hilarious is people think we're a cult, correct? Yeah.

But we have more of the Bible preached in our church and more talk about like the do's and don'ts of the Bible and like all the promises of God. We cover all of those things and yet we're a cult. But you go and you hear most churches in this area in general have no word. Everything's permissible, and grace will cover a multitude of sin. Like, how are we the cult? I know. I don't know. It makes no sense to me.

I know. It's not part of being a cult. Like, people aren't allowed to leave, and a lot of people leave. Yes. Like, two couples got out this Sunday. Yep. Nobody was stopping them and telling them they couldn't go. Nope.

Pick up your bag and hit the road. Nobody's saying, no, no, you've entered in yeah the door is locked the kool-aid oh my gosh they're mocked as they go yeah true i'm just kidding kind of kind of kind of they're mocked after they leave oh my gosh no i'm just like to me i'm like if you to be a cult, there's no Bible in it. Yeah. No, it's all about the leader. It's manipulated. There's no Bible.

But yeah, we're a cult. It just lures me. I just can't. I cannot. All right. That's it. That's all we got. That's all I got.

Let us pray in Jesus' name. If you don't know Jesus and you want to come to know him and change your life forever. If maybe you've walked away and you need to get your life right. That was me. I've done both. Gotten right. Walked away. Gotten right.

That is you. Say this prayer with me right now. Short and sweet. Easy peasy. And life will begin as you know it. In Jesus mighty name. Heavenly Father, we come to you right now. Short and sweet. Easy peasy. And life will begin as you know it in Jesus' mighty name. Heavenly Father, we come to you right now. We thank you, Lord, for what you did on the cross. We thank you for dying for our sins.

We thank you for the stripes that you bore on your back, for our sickness and disease to be healed from. We thank you, Lord, that whatever you say to do, we will do. And wherever you say go, we will go. Because of the forgiveness of sin, I ask you to forgive me, make me wash clean, and I will live for you forever. I will go the opposite direction I am headed in now and go the other direction and do whatever you tell me to do. I thank you.

In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. If you said that prayer, super easy. The key is whatever you were doing, you have to do the opposite of it because that's true repentance. Today's a new day for you. Start experiencing him and all that he has for you. If you need a good Bible, we can hook you up. If you need a good church and you don't live in the area, let us know. We might be able to find one for you. If you live in this area, come to Foundation Church, Sunday morning, 10 a.m. Get indoctrinated into our groups.

We have lots of great hub groups. If you're a woman, we have lots of great ones for women. We have a fantastic one for men. We have some really good discipleship hubs as well. So, because it's the parable of the sower. It's easy to say that the prayer of salvation, it's another thing to make it grab hold, live it, and stick to it. Right?

It is true. Many seeds fall on many grounds, but it's the seed that fell on the fresh ground that is nourished and not pulled up where the birds came in and took it or landed on thorny ground or stony ground. You want to land where you're growing on the fresh soil and taking root. Okay. And we can help you with that. It's the, uh, what Friday, right? I've been off. We're going to be here Friday. Tune back in. I love you. Thank you for joining. Invite some friends.

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