The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E09 | 02-23-24

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E09 | 02-23-24...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Hello, everybody, and welcome to the Hope Hotline. It is Friday, February 23rd. Is that correct? You're right.
Starting point is 00:00:30 It's definitely Friday the 23rd today. You know, I just lose track of dates. I know. And I cannot believe it's already... Vanessa, do you... Oh, I was about to say, do you not realize we can see you, but I'm the only one that can see you. We see you. Vanessa's doing her hair, which is what I was doing just before the podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Trying to fix, like, this thing right here. You're driving me crazy. There you go. Look at you. It never happens. So I get you, but you couldn't see Vanessa. Vanny on the block. Show her right now.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Vanny on the block's wearing some nice, sweet little goggles right there. Yeah. What's up with that? I like them. I woke up with a pink eye, I think. And so. That stinks, man. It's either pink eye or maybe I just need to change my contacts.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I've been wearing the same pair for like six months. And they're like good for two weeks. So. Or you got pink eye from wearing the same contacts for six months. So I'm giving my eyes some rest. Vanessa, why would you do that? Because you have not gotten the other, you haven't gotten the prescription filled, correct?
Starting point is 00:01:41 Yes. Uh-huh. And now it's expired and I have to get a whole other eye exam. Yep. That'll do it. So I'm sporting a new look. I like those. Thanks. Man, if they had those in
Starting point is 00:01:55 sunglasses, I'm all in. Come on. Maybe switch out the lenses. Find a dupe. That's right up my alley. I don't know, though. I'd have to put them on my face because sometimes I look like a bug. Yeah. Let's try it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I like those little goggles you got on. I'll take that compliment. Huh? I'll take that compliment. I didn't even know she wore glasses. I just found out recently, too. I mean, I have known her for how many years? So many.
Starting point is 00:02:22 So many. It's like almost 10. Yeah. I'm so observant apparently observant you always wear contacts i do it's i mean you never wear glasses i thought they were fake me outs to be honest with you no unfortunately not i've never i don't even know have i ever seen you in glasses you might have like it's few and far between obviously if you're wearing the same contacts for six months exactly but jeff is on on a mission. He's like, Vanessa, you need to start speaking to your eye.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Yep. That's what I do every day. I don't wear glasses except for little readers every now and then for like stupid Perry Stone's Bible's got like blueprint. Yeah. It's hard to read. And it ain't big. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And there are certain things I have to wear my glasses for. But I haven't gotten a prescription yet. I refuse. That's my mom. I literally said, my eyes are healed. I haven't seen the manifestation of it. Why am I going to go and get a daggum prescription for something that I do not
Starting point is 00:03:19 have or will not keep? Maybe I won't go for my eye exam. Huh? Maybe I I'll go for my eye exam. Huh? Maybe I won't go for my eye exam. Don't keep wearing those six-month contacts, girl. I know. Why don't you like an elephant?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Bite one piece at a time. There you go. Good advice. Very true. And then you'll eat the whole thing and you'll win. There you go. I like that. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that's how I feel about my eyes though i'm not losing that's what i know
Starting point is 00:03:49 i speak to my eyes every day my mom says the same thing my eyes will not grow dim no she's she's trying yep she's holding out kind of now my force might being might start being abated because i haven't hit the gym in two weeks but oh just kidding i know i've been there two weeks i know so but uh reasons legitimate reasons but my eyes now my eyes like i don't like that that makes me very mad i know so but great goggles you got on there vanessa and then what was i gonna say oh she was doing her hair but before that what were we talking about? So many things. So many things. Do we want to go into it?
Starting point is 00:04:30 I don't know. It's the weekend. That's all I care about. It's going to be a great weekend. Cannot wait. I cannot wait for you guys to see the logo or the graphic for the new Beloved Conference. Yes. It's going to be good, people.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We're going to finalize that. We're going to do save the date. Can we have that next week? Yeah, let's finalize it tonight. And then I'll make the save the date. We'll have a save the date next week. Okay. It's good.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yep. I'm in love. Me too. I love it. I'm in love. Love, love. Yeah. Cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yep. It's going to Yeah. Cannot wait. Yep. It's going to be good. So good. Okay, let's, like, I don't know what today entails. We're missing Sarah. Yeah, she's going up to Tampa. What is that? Heading up to Tampa for nieces.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Did you say she's heading to? See, people, sometimes I have gone back and watched the thing, and I hear her telling me something that I cannot hear her telling me. She's telling me it's Tuesday and I'm like, oh, it's Thursday. She's like, no, it's Tuesday. And I can't hear her. And I'm like, yeah, Thursday.
Starting point is 00:05:35 And she's like, whatever. I can't hear her at all. That big huge screen, there's two of them in front of her. And they block. I can't even read her lips. Yeah, I know. I know because then it's like I have to talk like this. You said she's going to Tampa.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah, she's going up to Tampa for her niece's engagement party. Oh, how nice. Yeah, she's going to hang out with her fam. Have fun. Yeah, that'll be fun. That's nice. Hashtag replay. Yeah, Sarah. I think she's going to try and hop on while they're driving. So, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Sweet. And I guess just go for it. Start doing your thing. Say what you say and do what you do. Okay. All right. So let's see who we've got on Facebook. We got Janelle.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Hey, girl. We got about five other people hanging out. So just let us know if you're in there. And then if you want to, you can always hop over to Rumble because you know, we love Rumble. But before you go, like and share, comment, do all the fun stuff that you can do on Facebook. And, um, if you're watching on Foundation Church, we are heading over there too, to make sure that if you're commenting, um, Talia will be seeing you now. Cause I know we had actually a Jeff over there commenting on the foundation one. So Vanessa gave a look that was beautiful. So yeah, we've got
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Starting point is 00:08:49 And like, I've already answered questions about Enoch before. This is where I really wish Aaron was here. Okay. Because like Aaron, I think he's read Enoch. I think he has. But he and I have talked about this before. I love his two cents on the whole entire thing. But, because I have my opinion,
Starting point is 00:09:15 and his opinion actually is the same as mine. So it's not like we have opposite opinions. I'm going to read the questions. You stay on here for one second. Because when I read this question, I didn't think it was a joke or anything like that. But I was like, this is like nothing I've ever heard before. And then both of you told me that you've heard this before.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah. Which is weird to me i tell you do you know anything about enoch okay that's what i figured so it was just really vanessa and tracy it really wasn't the fearsome threesome over there it was just tweedledum and tweedled Okay, so let's read the question. Enoch was a man who was seventh from Adam, question mark. In the book of Enoch, he refers to Nephilim, half man, half angels. It is a fascinating story and explains the flood.
Starting point is 00:10:16 However, the book of Enoch isn't considered as part of the inspired word of God. After the Senate of Rome, which is around 500 BC, it was rarely used. Sorry, theology junkie. Laugh out loud. I have 73 books in my Bible. However, King James only has 66. The NRSV Bibles have all 73. I did come across an interesting video on symbolism and how this specialist in symbolism thinks the King James version is actually demonic, which considering it is missing books does cause me to pause. Maybe I can find it to share. Okay. What the what? Good news. Aaron's in the house. Yes, he is. Rock the house. He's entered the chat.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Okay. But yeah, I know. I have, for me, I'm like, I have never heard anybody but an atheist or an agnostic say that they could even think that the Bible, the Holy Bible is demonic. But you too have heard of that by people who believe in Enoch or believe that it's not because Enoch's not in there. Correct? Yeah. I mean, I've heard.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I've never heard this. Not to the extent probably that this helps at all, but I don't know, maybe Erin can chime in of why maybe people think this, but I've heard that it's just King James version. And so it's not necessarily trustworthy because it's King James's version. And do we even trust King James? And is he even like, to me, it was like more,
Starting point is 00:12:02 I showed no interest in it. Cause I was like, that doesn't even, like you just read and you're like, what? That's how I felt when somebody tried to describe this to me, it was like more I showed no interest in it because I was like, that doesn't even like you just read and you're like, what? That's how I felt when somebody tried to describe this to me. OK, so I don't I don't have a great argument. Yeah. What do you have to say about this? So I've never heard that. Listen, I listened to you on Wednesday and you sounded like a church mouse. I know she sounds better today. I don't know. She's eating the mic.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Well, you know what it is? I'm sharing a mic with Sarah. Yeah, but you still should be eating it if you're with Sarah. Okay. We need another mic. I can hear Sarah. Well, her voice projects. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Thus the reason. Yeah. If you know yours does not, take that mic, put it here. Like I had to teach her for worship team. Now you can hear you because you like when you're singing.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Everything's soft with Vanessa. There ain't one hard spot on the chick. I'm a soft place to land on. She is. Everybody needs somebody like that. No comment. oh my gosh oh man it's okay I'll
Starting point is 00:13:09 I I am who I am that's right you be you and I love you you be you what was the question again
Starting point is 00:13:16 about the King James version being demonic I love her man that's why we keep you around chick that's awesome about the King James version being demonic. I love her, man. That's why we keep you around, chick. That's awesome. I love you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:33 No, I've never heard that. This was the first. So you never heard that it was demonic either. You're like me. I heard the opposite. That King James was like the most accurate. Uh-huh. And we're going to go into that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Uh-huh. And we're going to go into that. Okay. Uh-huh. If anybody ever studied out the Bible and the prophecies, there's no other book that is more actual, factual, and cannot be disproven. Not one. Out of all the books that have ever been written, philosophically, whatever, there's not one. So for me, and I'm not busting on whoever wrote this,
Starting point is 00:14:09 but if you're a theology junkie, then maybe you should really look at the books that you're studying and how accurate they are, even Enoch. Good point. Because that's where you go. It's not like, oh, this is a great book. I really like their take on that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Nephilim, half man, half angels. Fascinating story. But you better, like, if you're going to read somebody and you want it to be a part of the Bible itself, maybe it needs to be as accurate as the other books that are in there. Maybe that's the reason why it's not. So that's what the problem is. For me, a lot of times people have these ideas and they sound great,
Starting point is 00:14:50 but there's no real depth to them, not the person, the thing that they love so much. There's no depth, there's no accuracy, and there's no proof behind. It's like telling me that climate change, which the name has been changed several times and so have the rules so have the the guidelines that make it be climate change to global warming to all these different things nothing ever sticks everything always changes even their prophecies that they have about like New York was supposed to be underwater like in 2000.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like that's what we're dealing with right here. This kind of stuff right here is about as accurate as that. It's about as accurate as COVID. people fall prey to because they don't ever look in in depth to what they are are saying that they are interested in and just because you're interested in it does not mean it's wise to be to have that interest we're to guard our hearts and we're to protect them and to make sure that what we take in doesn't hurt us spiritually speaking so um as far as the king james being demonic no it's not demonic and it reminds me of some scripture but i will tell you it's like um it's like when the pharisees tried to say that jesus was demonic and they called him beelzebub how is that possible
Starting point is 00:16:22 excuse me when jesus was doing all the acts of the Messiah, the one that was to come, he did every single thing that was prophesied that the Messiah would do. He was healing the sick. He was making the lame walk. He was healing the leper. He was doing everything. The blind were speaking, the deaf ear was opening, and then they tried to say he was Beelzebub. He was the devil. Why would the devil win somebody to God? It's like a house divided cannot stand. It's not possible. It makes no sense whatsoever. And that's basically what Jesus said. It's not possible. So let's look at Matthew 12, 22 through 28.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It says, A house divided cannot stand. Then one was brought to him who was demon-possessed, blind and mutant, and healed him, so that the blind and the mutant man both spoke and saw. And all the multitudes were amazed and said, Could this be the son of David? Now when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.
Starting point is 00:17:29 But Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. Does that not make sense? I mean, that makes sense. How then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? I mean, therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out demons by the spirit of God,
Starting point is 00:18:01 surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. Preach. I want to like, I would clap. You know, I just like, there's no way the Bible is demonic. It makes no sense. It's as much as saying that Jesus was demonic. Now, am I making sense to this at all, girls? I mean, just like,
Starting point is 00:18:24 just conceptually, do you understand what i'm saying when i compare somebody calling the king james demonic versus calling jesus demonic does that make sense to you because literally i want i don't want somebody to be going they don't correlate yeah no i mean it doesn't correlate to me it does tell you you have you look like you want to say something no no it definitely like it makes sense to me, what you're saying. I don't know. Okay, so that correlation between calling Jesus, what is somebody saying something on the feed?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Oh, I thought you were reading something. What were you going to say? I'm just reading what Aaron's been posting. What is Aaron saying? Some of the stuff that he's saying is, because he said that like with Enoch specifically, well, with the King James Version, he said that there are bits of the King James Version
Starting point is 00:19:13 that clearly have an agenda behind it. But to say that it's demonic is a bit wild. But I can see with the numerology being that it's 66 books that people would obviously, they would just jump right to it being 66 books. And then Sean's just saying that like, he doesn't understand why books would be taken out. Well, and I'm going to tell you why the books are taken out.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So, okay. In order for it to be mnemonic or not to be actually factually true, there would have to be proof that shows that it's not. There's more proof that shows it is. And I'm going to tell you, it's a proven document and it's not symbolic. The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947
Starting point is 00:19:53 and they prove that what was taken out of the caves, I mean, basically to the letter, the King James Version, repeats what was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. And the Dead Sea Scrolls are actual, factual, legitimate documents that theologians have never been able to do away with, never been able to say they are not accurate, never able to say that there is no proof that these things actually came to pass. There were people who saw them, like Josephus, who have validated him in writings that had nothing to do with the writings
Starting point is 00:20:30 of the King James Bible. Does that make sense? Yeah. If you see something on there, tell me. So a young boy, he was a young Arab shepherd in 1947, in Qumran, went into a cave and he found the Dead Sea Scrolls, right? And
Starting point is 00:20:49 a lot of people would love to say that it's not a proven document because then it validates either lifestyles or basically sin. It allows you to sin with no consequence, ramification or conviction right but the thing is is you can do away with the dead sea scrolls all you want to but there's
Starting point is 00:21:12 also a text that is also proven that the bible is real and it exists and king james version as well and it's called the textus receptus receptus r-e-C-E-P-T-U-S. They also match. So you can get rid of the Dead Sea Scrolls all you want, but then you have this Textus Receptus, and that proves that the King James Bible is also factual, actual. So for me, be careful what you read, be careful what you watch, be careful what you listen to,
Starting point is 00:21:42 because it's very dangerous to open yourself up to things that are not safe enoch is not proven there are things in the book of enoch that have been clearly disproven okay i'm going to i'm going to show you the reason why and i i am going to read it to you because there's it was too much information because I had to. I study this stuff out, and I research this stuff before I even come on here, and I talk to you about it. And I look at all the sides, and I look at all the information to make sure that what I'm saying is not just my opinion, but I bring some educational sides to this, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:22 So the Book of Enoch is considered to be a category of pseudepigrapha, and that's P-S-E-U-D-E-P-I-G-R-A-P-H, just in case I'm mispelling, I'm pronouncing it wrong. Meaning this book was written under a pseudonymous name, which means, I'm not sure if I wrote down what that means, but basically that means somebody said they wrote it, but they actually did not. Okay. Now the book of the books that we have, the 66 books of the Bible have basically been proven that everybody that it states that wrote it actually wrote it. Like the book of Hebrews is one of the ones that is questionable
Starting point is 00:23:07 as to who actually wrote it, but they're almost 100% positive that it was Paul. So it's very rare that in any of these books that know in the 66, pretty much everybody knows, in book of enoch it's not at all it's not they can't it's the person who said they wrote it did not write it they know that for a fact so so what it is i did write it down the author claims to be someone but is not actually the true author synonymous writings um were common during the time the Bible was written. Who was Enoch? He was like Elijah. So Enoch, I'm not going to read all that because I already know it. So Enoch
Starting point is 00:23:51 was a man that, like Elijah, never died. He was taken up to heaven. They believe he and Elijah are the two witnesses that we'll see in the book of Revelation. A lot of people believe that because they were taken and they never passed away, they never died, that they will be the ones that return. They will be the two witnesses in the book of Revelation that are spoken of. And at which case the two witnesses actually die, but they rise again in three days. Correct? So, not correct. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:27 Right. So, that's super interesting about both of those two men, which a lot of people don't know that. Which is interesting that a lot of people don't know that that's Elijah and Enoch. But it goes back to also studying your word and knowing things. So Enoch wrote the book of Enoch is what some believe, but it's not actually, most say, no, Enoch did not write the book of Enoch. It is also considered to be an apocryphal, I don't know, it's A-P-O-C-R-Y-P-H-A-L. I wish I had Sarah. A crop fulfill writing. And that writing means that it should be true and correct, but it is in fact false and often historically inaccurate.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So two things about the book of Enoch that the other books, 66 books in the Bible, don't have issues with. That's the reason why those 66 books made it into the Bible. And this one does not, because it had to meet certain criteria in order to go into the Bible. And Enoch does not meet the criteria. That's the reason why it's not in there. When reading an apocryphal text, they should be treated as a fallible historical text. The Bible should be treated as God's inspired word, infallible, and authoritative word. Infallible, it is 100%. And here's the reason why I can tell you that it is 100%. Because there are 2,500 prophecies in the King James Version Bible. Let's do not only King
Starting point is 00:26:04 James, let's do New King James, Living Translation, whatever one you like. Out of the 66 books in the King James Version Bible. Let's do not only King James, let's do New King James, Living Translation, whatever one you like. Out of the 66 books in the Bible, there are 2,500 prophecies that are stated. 2,000 of those prophecies have come to pass. And you go, well, there's 500 that haven't. So doesn't that make it inaccurate? And I tell you, absolutely not,
Starting point is 00:26:24 because the other 500 haven't. So doesn't that make it inaccurate? I tell you, absolutely not, because the other 500 haven't come to pass. That is the reason why they aren't fulfilled. But on a daily basis, as time progresses and we see the book of Revelation unfolding, we're checking off those 500. So day by day, those things are actually, those prophecies are coming to pass. The book of Enoch can't do that because the book of Enoch has already been found with things in it that were not accurate at all. And so because of that, it shouldn't be a part of the 66 books. And for me, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I looked at who really reads the NRSV, which has the 73 books. You know who does? The Catholic faith, mainly the Pope. That's the book he uses. I looked at different people who actually read and use that 73 book Bible, and there ain't nobody I would want to follow. Protestants, Catholicism, big time. The Catholics use it big time. But if you look at what those other books have, the 73 books out of the 73, the 66, right? So 73 minus 66 is seven. So the seven books that are not in the Bible, those seven books, I looked at what they consist of,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and a lot of the Catholic faith uses those seven books. Well, the Catholic faith is heavily, I don't want to insult anybody who's Catholic, but it's, it's, um, what's a nice way to say it's, it's not good. There's a lot of things about the Catholic faith that people who are Catholic should look at and make sure that it's biblically sound what they're telling you you should believe what you should do who you should what you should call different people the lifestyles of the people that you're following are they accurate to what the Bible says like it's not good and this is you know, Tom was brought up Catholic.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Went through catechism, all that other stuff, all the CCD courses and stuff like that. And the things that they teach, it's not good. It's very, very, very, very... It's not good. I don't want to insult somebody's religion.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Because there's a lot of Catholics that are going to heaven. There's a lot of things in that that the Catholic faith teaches that people should really question. They should really read their word. It's like there's a lot of denominations that have a doctrine that people follow versus the Bible. And the doctrine was created by man. Catholicism is the same thing. Because a lot of the rules and regulations that Catholics live by is not the word of God.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's man-made. And man gets it wrong a lot. A lot. Unless it's the inspired word of God. And then God never gets it wrong. So if a man was inspired to write something. And out of 2,500 prophecies and things that were written in a 66-book document, and 2,000 of them have already come to pass, I would say stick with the 66. Don't follow a doctrine. Don't follow a religion, especially if one is extremely tarnished with inaccuracies and wrong teachings.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And just read the Bible. Live by the Bible. And if you want to read the book of Enoch, I would look at it and say, I'll read it, but I'm not going to make it my Bible. That's all I can say. What do you guys have to say? I think that you should read the Bible first before you read anything that's not in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm reading your lips right now because I can barely hear you because of the air condition. Most people want to read all these other books, including these ones too, but they haven't even read the entire Bible yet. So maybe just start with the Bible. Yeah, your decisions there. Yeah, but if you are to think that it might be demonic. Well then, but if you have the Holy Spirit living inside of you, then you'll get a check in your spirit about certain things, right? If you're reading the Bible. Like one of the things Aaron said that like one of the contradictions, because him and Tommy did a deep dive, they said about the King James Version. An example was Easter
Starting point is 00:31:25 was said in King James Version. And then in the Dead Sea Scrolls, they said Passover. So if you get a check in your spirit about Easter, that one word out of the entire Bible, then don't use it. I don't know. To me, it's almost like an excuse not to read the Bible, the whole Bible. You know, the whole Bible. Oh, yeah. But I also think that you can like, you're to study the word, right? So I'm a big. But some people are so, they love history.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So it's not studying the word. It's learning the history of it. And the history ain't going to do it. Theology is great. But if the theology gets you off track, or potentially can get you off track, put the book down. Put the book down.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Because it's not worth your salvation. And I'll be honest with you, I'd rather die going to hell believing that the King James Version sends me to heaven. There you go. I don't know. It's a safe bet for me. Oh my gosh. One thing I didn't know that Aaron pointed out was
Starting point is 00:32:39 Enoch was written 300 years after Christ. Yes. And so obviously that could lead to a lot of contradictions. And he said, if you read the entire Bible and Enoch, you'll see it's full of contradictions. And so that's where Aaron lies on all of this pretty much. So for me, like that's, I mean, I could, there, when you look at the, if you look at what, and the thing is, is if you go too much into deep diving in why the book of Enoch is so wrong, then again, you fall into the side of everybody has their opinion. But that's one of the things that it states as part of the reason why it is highly inaccurate and why it wasn't Enoch who wrote it.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. If you're seventh from Adam and you're writing that book 300 years after the death of Christ, how can you be the writer of it? Right. You can't be. That's why I say, they say the author is him, but they know it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Right. So how accurate is the book? And they have found that, and I have a list of things that they believe the reason why it's not in the Bible is because it's so inaccurate that it can't be in there. Thank God that there were standards that people were, a rule of thumb
Starting point is 00:33:58 that in order to be in the Bible, you had to meet these standards to even be allowed to go in there. Otherwise, we might have inaccurate books in there. And the inaccuracy of those books could cause people to not even believe the word itself, which is very dangerous. Because that's the reason why there's got to be proof in the pudding so that people do read it and say, I believe this. I believe it's infallible. Because if you have the Book of Enoch in there where it is fallible, then people will go,
Starting point is 00:34:31 we already know this book ain't right. So how many of the other books are? A little 11. It's super important. A little 11. It is. It's super, super important. And the other six books are very religious.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah. They're not really. So, and again, I say Catholics are the ones that use the NRSV big time, which you might be Catholic. And I hope I didn't offend you. I don't mean to offend. I don't mean to bother or tick off, but at the same time, that's my truth. And being married to somebody who's Catholic, who knows the Bible very, very well to basically what he was taught in the Catholic religion, they are diametrically different in many, many, many ways as far as truth goes.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And again, I don't want to insult you, and that's why I'm trying to be very careful because I, listen, I know Catholics who are going to heaven. I know Catholics who are spirit-filled. But that's because they read the Bible. They didn't listen to man. It's just like you can be any denomination. There's people that come to this church.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They hear the word. They don't receive it it they sit in a pew every single sunday and they're living with somebody yeah it's all up to you there's catholics that sit in in a pew every single sunday but they read the word of god right they are more saved than some of the people that sit in our church today right and that's the truth. So that's why I am very hesitant to be super critical, because I know there are a lot of saved Catholic people, very good people, and they love Jesus, and they love God, and their hearts are to serve him. And it's very pure, and they live a very holy lifestyle. They chase after holiness, which is what we're supposed to do. So that's why I try and be very, very careful, but it's very dangerous. So does the bald wonder have anything else to say?
Starting point is 00:36:33 I don't think so. I mean, that was pretty much it. Well, he agreed with all the stuff you said, so it would just be kind of reiterating. Yeah, validating what you said. He and I have talked about it too, but this is like the second or third time i've researched it and i mean i think i know a lot of people who've read the book of enoch but they read it like a fairy tale they don't really read it like it's legitimate and i don't mean fairy tale as in like it doesn't have anything good to add to the bible yeah i mean they just don't look at it as a legitimate document. Yeah. Some of it may be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Right. But it's like history. We've watched, you can read a history book and there'll be so many accurate facts in the history book, but then they throw in some things that just aren't so. Yep. You don't discard the truths that are in there, but you have to be very careful about what you believe. So this is interesting. Very true.
Starting point is 00:37:28 My son just walked in, so I'll add him to the question if he wants to be in it. He's looking at me. How you doing, baby? I love you. It took you, oh, I know. I know, Tommy. It took, oh my gosh, you guys can't hear him. Oh, I know. I know, Tommy. It took... Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You guys can't hear him. But if you could hear him right now... He needs a mic. Come on over, Tommy. Come join us. Tommy's going nuts over here. Oh, my gosh. It took him 30 to 45 minutes to get here
Starting point is 00:38:04 because we only live like 10 minutes from this place. And for some reason, they decided to paint the light in the middle of rush hour traffic, which took me a long time. My mother called me and said, leave her late because there's a backup. But, yeah. He just needs a Snickers.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Tommy needs something. Tommy, get a Snicker. Tommy's a little spicy from sitting in traffic. Okay. He's getting Vanessa candy though right now. Very nice. So not that you guys care. Not that you really need to know that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But I'm just filling you in on what's going on in the room right now. You just never know. You never know. There's always something going on. But nothing about Enoch or King James Version for Tommy? He's not interested? Okay, cool. Cool, cool. He said
Starting point is 00:38:47 he read it. It's a good book, he said. I'm not surprised. Tommy's into all that. I know. Okay, next question. Tell me how an ideal day off would look for you.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I'm going to ask you guys that question too, but you know what I think my ideal day off looks like? My ideal day off would be obviously going away with my family on a trip somewhere in the mountains, preferably not too cold. You know what? I changed this. Somewhere where you can see snow and you can get to it, but you can always get back down where it's nice and warm.
Starting point is 00:39:32 I don't like that. But Yosemite, we haven't been there yet. That would be fun. I want to go to Yosemite. That would be fun. When I say I'll add these little cherubs to the family mix. I mean my immediate family. Obviously, my kids and Tom.
Starting point is 00:39:52 We'll throw in my mom. She's been there, so she might not want to go. But Aaron and Naz and Heather, the Dexters and stuff like that. That little family. Because, for one, you got to have Aaron there for entertainment. Yes. Aaron.
Starting point is 00:40:10 The dancer. It's not just the dancer. The man needs help. I was going to tell him to go, too. He and Tom and Tommy have us dying of laughter. And then, obviously, the Dexters for obvious reasons. But that would be my thing. Like I was like, where would I want to go?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yosemite. I would want to go there. Have you guys ever been to Yosemite? No, and I've always wanted to go my whole life. I would love to go there. But just like my ideal day is somewhere, peace, no phones, views, traveling, like an experience. That would be fun okay what's yours but what if you had to stay local like just you only had one 24 hour day like what is your ideal day not because that's like an ideal vacation no it's not vacation it's just an ideal day like do you feel like that was
Starting point is 00:41:03 the question i'm there okay i feel like i have days off though that's i know that's why i'm like what would your ideal day be working i don't know like even when i have days off i'm working right is that your ideal though like like if i'm working on my house even yeah i know i i do have days off from here, but usually even on my days off, I do something. But on the days that I don't, I'm working on my house because right now it has to happen because there's certain things that the insurance company won't take care of.
Starting point is 00:41:37 What if you had no responsibilities for 24 hours and it wasn't going to pile up? It's just like one day ceased to exist, but you could do whatever you wanted for one whole day. But it's only 24 hours. Sleep would definitely be. Yeah. Sleeping in or going to bed early.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, just sleep. Just sleep. Just sleep. Okay. I still want to do it with my, spend it with my family. I don't know what I would do.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah. And it doesn't have to just be my my, spend it with my family. I don't know what I would do. And it doesn't have to just be my family, but people that I love. Yeah. I would want to be with the people that I love. Yeah. If I was staying in the area. Right. You only had 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I only had 24 hours. It probably be a day where I slept, but all my, the people that I love that I find to be very close to me, they would have to be, It would have to be a day where we're all together. Yeah. Outside of that, I can't think of anything I'd want to do. Yeah. Except for, I mean, what does life really matter if you're not with people you care about? It's true. But it cannot involve anyone that I do not like or have to put up with.
Starting point is 00:42:43 No, that's right, because it's ideal day and it feels like work right right then it's not ideal so it'd have to be people that you know you're just like when you see them you're like oh this is nice yeah this is good what would your day look like you could go anywhere in the world in 24 hours in 24 hours you're genie oh oh oh okay now we're even switching it up a little that's what i said okay it doesn't matter just like okay i didn't know that i didn't know the rules did you know the rules no okay that's what i just said to you like well i would be like i think you said in your head no i did this this is my third time doing this. Did she? I've only seen one. I do mean it. I only see this. That's third. Fourth.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Okay, okay. Fourth time. Replay, replay. Oh my gosh. Okay, because this went all different directions. If I wasn't a genie, I did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 This thing. What did she do? But she made a noise, I felt like. Maybe she didn't. Just this. Okay. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:43:45 If I wasn't, it depends. Like if I've had a really busy like six months and it's just been like thing after another, I would just want to go to the beach all day. But it had to be warm. And then literally the sun coming up and the sun setting and then eating somewhere by the beach. That's my ideal day. Do you like the beach a lot?
Starting point is 00:44:03 I love the beach. I love the beach. I don't really like it that much. I know. That's my ideal day. Do you like the beach a lot? I love the beach. I love the beach. I don't really like it that much. I know. It's too sandy. I know. Works out great. Tom don't like it either.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I know. What about you, Tal? Wait. I have a feeling I know what it consists with. It's so confusing. Who would you go with? Be by yourself? Or would you go with friends and family?
Starting point is 00:44:23 No, friends and family. Friends and family. Yeah. I like being with people. I already know Or would you go with friends and family? No, friends and family. Friends and family. Yeah. I like being with people. I already know yours. It consists with Norma. Yeah. But if I could go like anywhere in the world for one day.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yes. One day with whoever you want to go. Who would you go with and where would you go? Probably Japan. Japan? yeah wow never
Starting point is 00:44:47 looky looky no interest at all sorry to hijack but never Konnichiwa no not even a little interested Talia
Starting point is 00:44:54 guys it's just like that's the only word she knows wait that's correct Erin Konnichiwa please get out of here
Starting point is 00:45:00 oh my gosh Hitomi Dias Vanessa name two cities in Japan? Okinawa. Is that in Japan? That's what Aaron wants to do with Tommy. He wants to go hiking with him in Japan on Mount Fiji.
Starting point is 00:45:17 So, sorry, Tommy. Oh, my gosh. You already got your day planned. Where are you going to go in your little Miata? Aaron? Yeah. The little Miata? Aaron? Yeah. The little Miata? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:27 With your top down? Okay, so Talia, really quick. Let's speed things along. Okay. Who would you go with? So you're going to go now with Tommy and Aaron? Yeah, and then Norma. And then Norma.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know Norma ain't going without Mr. Jagger. Well, fine. She rolls her eyes. Okay. Fine. You'll have Tommy and Aaron. Yeah Mr. Jagger. Well, fine. She rolls her eyes. Okay. Fine. You'll have Tommy and Aaron. Yeah, that's true. Woo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Your best buddy's with Tommy. Yeah, but it's Norma. Oh, okay. So it has to be no Jagger. Because you don't want to share. I get along with Jagger. Yeah, as long as he shares. But sometimes I put him in his place because he forgets who was here first.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Ooh. Ooh. So. Best friend. Lookie. Fighting words. Yeah. Oh, somebody gets a little jelly.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Of course she does. I'm ready. I don't blame you, girl. I've had friends, they get a boyfriend. Mm-hmm. They don't even remember my name. Yep. That is hard. That is hard. They didn't remember my name. It get a boyfriend. They don't even remember my name. That is hard.
Starting point is 00:46:25 They didn't remember my name. It's a shame. Then they break up all of a sudden. Wasn't your name? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Sex with an H. They come right back. I don't even have a name to you.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Oh my gosh. My name is nothing. It's mud. Oh, my gosh. Mom. My name is nothing. It's mud. Okay. So, okay. Vanessa, lay it on me. Okay. I had some time to think.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So, if I can travel anywhere, it would be Kauai, Hawaii. Of course. I've never even heard of that. It's my favorite islands I've ever traveled to because you've got the beach and then you have the mountains. And the volcanoes. And that. and the fires and i would be sitting on a beach with a good book with my man next to me and we would just enjoy the whole day yeah but you can have a beach here like why would you guys go to
Starting point is 00:47:18 what you already have yeah it's got the mountains it's completely different different. It's a vibe. It's a vibe. It's like the bougie life didn't choose her. Yes, exactly. Or she didn't choose the bougie life, but the bougie life chose her. If I didn't have just a regular day, I would sleep in. And then I would have lunch with the good girlfriends. Do some shopping. And then Jeff would come home early that day and be cooking our dinner.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Okay. I like this. He'd be cooking us a steak to share. He's good steak. Yeah, he is. And then we would watch the sunset. Aw, so romantic. That would be a perfect day for me.
Starting point is 00:47:57 That's pretty sweet. I might have to steal that day. I know. I like that day, too. Can I have Jeff, please? Can Jeff come over and make me my steak? Right. Exactly. I don't know. I like that day too. Can I have Jeff, please? Can Jeff come over and make me my steak? Exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Sounds like a plan. Now, my son, do you want to play the game? Would you go to Japan with the girls? And Aaron? He's thinking Japan might be the ticket. Good job, Aaron. That would be pretty cool. He would go skiing in Japan. Oh, okay. Okay, Aaron job, Aaron. That would be pretty cool. He would go skiing in Japan.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Oh, okay. Okay, Aaron will go skiing. I know that. But Norma will not, so she's not going to be hanging. She's not going to go on that trip, Talia. Talia, do you like skiing?
Starting point is 00:48:37 I mean, I've never done it, but... She's down for whatever. But... Oh! Since Talia dissed him, she's dissing. How did she diss you? How did I diss you? Oh, he feels second fiddle.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I'm sorry. He feels second fiddle. Somebody's a little spiteful. Yeah. Wow. Ouchy mama. Okay, so it's all guys for Tommy. I'll just go by myself.
Starting point is 00:49:04 It's fine. Y'all. All righty-roo. That's how that's going to go down. All right, so we have a little riff in the room now. I know. But we're all good. Us three girls are good, besides Talia.
Starting point is 00:49:18 All right, let's do the next question. Where in the Bible does it talk about Ash Wednesday, Lent, fasting on Fridays, no meat on Friday, et cetera? It doesn't. It doesn't. The only place you're going to see this is in the Catholic religion. That's it. I don't think there's, like, Episcopalians do Lent.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I'm pretty sure about that. They do do Lent. But I don't know if Episcopalians do the Ash Wednesday. I never looked that up. Can you look that up for me right now? So Ash Wednesday, Lent, fasting on Fridays, no meat on Fridays. It is absolutely nowhere in the Bible. But I can tell you that I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Where did it all begin? Because it has an origin of where it started. Everything always does. We just don't always know where it is. Do you know it? Which one were you asking about? So Episcopalians, do they do Ash Wednesday or Lent? Because I feel like they do. Because that's a very close religion to Catholicism. It's saying, it's not naming them as one of them. It's saying Lutherans Lutheran is too. Baptists do. Methodists
Starting point is 00:50:29 Baptists don't do Ash Wednesday. Okay, well this is Google. They're saying some Baptists, many Methodists including Nazarenes and Westlands. Do Ash Wednesday? Never heard of it. Never seen it. Only Catholic faith for the most part.
Starting point is 00:50:46 This is why you don't trust the internet, people. I know, literally. And that's like the first thing that comes up. Oh, man. No, I don't think that's true. Okay, so how it all started. It started in the 4th century AD. Even though there is no explicit evidence of Lent in Scripture,
Starting point is 00:51:02 many believers have tried to argue that Lent is based on Jesus' temptation in the desert for 40 days. The 40 days before Easter is a preparation time known as Lent. In the Old Testament times, people used ashes as a sign of repentance. So that's one of the reasons why they use the ash. They would sit in ashes, roll around in them,
Starting point is 00:51:22 sprinkle them upon their heads, or even mingle them with their food and drink. And that sounds very gross. But have you ever heard like there's that show where people eat the strangest things? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And people have eaten literally like loved ones ashes. Mattresses.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Mattresses. Mattresses. Yep. Oh, my gosh. Like they pick it while they're laying in it they eat their mattress while they're laying in it
Starting point is 00:51:49 yes and it's like falling apart I know guys I might gag I know please
Starting point is 00:51:56 we're gonna probably have to change the subject because nobody on the podcast needs to see me gag don't talk don't talk about it
Starting point is 00:52:04 don't talk about it don't talk about it oh tommy they're probably okay in a mineral guys we got to change the subject because i'm telling you right now oh my gosh okay well you started it with eating ashes. Yeah, that's pretty gross. Ashes? Oh, God. Go in a different room because if you gag, I'm gagging. Did you hear what Tom said? Oh, please don't.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Oh my gosh. Oh, I can't breathe. I'm crying. Crying. I'm holding it back. Because I, like, am the loudest gagger I've ever heard. I've never heard you gag. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:52:59 In all of 10 years. I can't even talk to you. Okay. Let me start reading something about Ash Wednesday. I've got to get it out of my mind. That's the problem. It's in my head. Okay, so let's move on past eating.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Okay, let's do it. Erin's so gross. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Did you read Erin's question? Don't. Whatever is going on over there, I'm regrouping. Don't read Aaron's comment.
Starting point is 00:53:34 No, don't talk about it. Don't talk about it. Leave it alone. They did this as an outward sign of their inward posture of repentance. Oh, my gosh. If you guys only knew, I'm not kidding you, how hard it is for me to hold it together right now, because you don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Like, it is the loudest, and I won't stop. If I get going, I do not stop. Daniel 9, 3 through 6 says, why are you guys under the table over there? Because Aaron is unhinged right now. It's so bad. And he wants you to know. So I'm not doing it in hope.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I love you. I love you way too much to do this. Not doing it. We can get it. We can get it. We can get it. We can do this. I'm done crying. I'm about to read the Holy Bible.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Okay, please. Can you? So that will help me. I think you need to. I don't want to know anything he says. I'm not going to tell you. Then I set my face toward the Lord God to make requests by prayer and supplications with fasting sackcloth and ashes. And I prayed to the Lord my God and made confession and said, O Lord, great and awesome God who keeps his covenant and mercy with those who love him and with those who keep his commandments. We have sinned and committed
Starting point is 00:54:48 iniquity. We have done wickedly and rebelled even by departing from your precepts and your judgments. Neither have we heeded your servants, the prophets who speak in your name to our kings and our princes, to our fathers and all the people of the land. So the ash is, it's just like everything, counterfeit. And I'm not saying that doing Ash Wednesday, it's very religious as far as I'm concerned. It's just a sign of religiosity. And I'm not saying that people who do religious things are so horrible or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:55:26 But things can become such a habit or a thing that we do. One of the things that we don't do here at Foundation Church is we don't, it's like one of the things, we don't take communion. Like some churches take communion once a month, right? And we take it, we do it about quarterly and sometimes not even that often. And the reason why is, and there's important reasons why you take communion. Part of it is healing. There's healing with taking communion. But there's also reasons that we don't do it.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And that is because the word is very clear. It says as often as you do these things, do it in remembrance of me. It doesn't say that you're supposed to do it once a month. It says as oft as you do this. Some people, there's debates on how often you should do it. One of the reasons we don't do it, especially on holidays,
Starting point is 00:56:21 is because it says that if you take communion, it's a curse if you are not right with God. If you're living in out and out sin, not struggling with sin, out and out sin, if you are a person that's not even saved and you take communion, you're putting a curse on you. So we don't do that because we're not going to assist in cursing people or having a curse put upon them. And a lot of churches don't even go through that scripture when they're offering communion to people. They don't allow them to see what the scripture says, that if you take it, this is what happens if you're not in
Starting point is 00:56:58 good standing. It's super important that everybody understands what the word of God says before they enter into certain things. That's marriage, that's salvation, that's communion, that's anything. That's the promises of God, financial prosperity, tithing, offering, all that. You need to understand when you do something, what that entails. You just don't follow it because people tell you to do it
Starting point is 00:57:22 or you don't follow it because people tell you to do it, or you don't follow it because man tells you that that's what you're supposed to do. You do it because the Word of God tells you to do it, and you follow it. And then you do it. So a lot of people say that because Passover was once a year, and Jesus had the Last Supper, which was what we take communion. Communion is like based on the Last Supper. Some believe that you should only do it once a year. There are a lot of beliefs, a lot of theologians believe that we should only do communion once a year.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I don't subscribe to that. I don't subscribe that it should be done once a month. I believe that it should never become a habit or a religious thing that is done because then what happens with that is it loses its value. It becomes just something that we do because that's what we do. And communion is vitally important. Well, like Ash Wednesday, Lent, fasting, things like that. It shouldn't be, um, something that
Starting point is 00:58:35 man tells you, you have to do. It should be something that you feel like the Holy Spirit is convicting you to do. And you should follow that because that's what you're supposed to do, not because man tells you to do it. It's just like we at this church participate in a 21-day fast every year with another church. But we don't tell everybody in the church that they have to do it, that this is what we're doing. We say this as a body we're doing, church that they have to do it, that this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:59:05 We say this as a body we're doing. If you feel led to do it, then here's what you want to do. If you want to sign up. There's lots of people who do it that don't even register and sign up with the ministry. But you should be compelled to do it through the Holy Spirit, not because everybody is doing it. Positive peer pressure is great. It really is.
Starting point is 00:59:27 There's a lot, there's something good to be said about positive peer pressure, but you should never succumb to even positive peer pressure and do something because everybody's doing it. It should be because when it comes to spiritual things, it should be because spiritually, you know, you're supposed to do it. It's just like, I've known people that, um, and this is off the subject, but then I'll get back to this really quick, but I've known people that they'll go to these, um, they'll go to these, um, meetings, like a, um, like a revival meeting or whatever. They'll go to this revival meeting, and the pastor will be talking about giving. Okay? Put yourselves on, and you can confirm or deny,
Starting point is 01:00:11 because both of you have been going to church for forever. You'll hear a pastor talking about giving, and he'll be talking about the importance of giving and being blessed through giving. And what the pastor, at least the pastors that I listen to, that I follow, they'll say, what is the Holy Spirit telling you to give? Right? There will be people that never even hear that one little sentence.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And so they start emptying their pockets because everything that guy said, they want, but the Holy Spirit never told them to give it. descendants. And so they start emptying their pockets because everything that guy said they want, but the Holy Spirit never told them to give it. And then this is what happens. They don't want nothing, but then when they give everything out of their pocket and the Holy Spirit never told them to do it and nothing comes about for them, then they don't believe what the pastor said or whoever it was or the evangelist. They don't believe what they said. They think he's a liar. They think he wants their money, all these things. And now their faith has diminished. But it all started with them
Starting point is 01:01:20 because they didn't do what the man of God said, which was, what is the Holy Spirit telling you to give? So instead of putting that finger at them, you need to go like this. What part did I play in that? I didn't follow instructions. Because the thing is, it's just like fasting. If you fast and you're not supposed to fast, will you get something from it?
Starting point is 01:01:41 Well, it depends on how mature you are in your walk. So a lot of times there's grace and mercy and you will see the results. But the more you grow and the more you know, and if the Holy Spirit doesn't tell you to fast and you do it anyway, I mean, will you get something out of it? Probably, but to the degree that you should have, no, you won't. Because you went and did something in your own might. And you thought it would be great instead of the Holy Spirit saying, like this past fast, I didn't do the 21 days like everybody else did. I didn't feel a bit bad about it.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I didn't feel a bit bad about it because that's not what the Holy Spirit told me to do. So I'm not going to do a 21-day fast with everybody else because I want to fit in. Because then I won't get anything out of it, not like I should. What I'll do is I'll follow what the Holy Spirit tells me to do, and then I will see the big results. That's what's really important. Lent and all that other stuff, if it's done because religiously
Starting point is 01:02:44 you're told to do it, will you gain anything from it? I don't see it in the Bible, so I don't know. But do you guys know? You understand what I'm talking about. I've known people who are like, I'll never give another dime because I didn't see anything. That guy, all he wants is my money.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I've heard that one. It's like, no, he doesn't want your money. Yeah, Aaron gave a good verse, 2 Corinthians 9, 7. So let each one of you give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or out of necessity, for God loves a cheerful giver. And that's the problem. Once you give and then you don't get what you wanted
Starting point is 01:03:17 in the timeframe you wanted it, then your heart gets hardened towards it. And really it might've just come in like, yes, of course, they've got to ask the Holy Spirit, but even your heart position changes. you start getting frustrated that you're not seeing, you know, whatever you're. And a lot of these people spiritually are so off that the Lord can't give them what they want because if he did, it would destroy them even more. And that's what they, that's what you don't realize. You don't realize God is saving you from yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:45 You're just, you're not smart enough to know it, but you didn't follow the first instruction. Right, right, first things first. You can't even hear the Holy Spirit because you're so carnally minded. Yeah. And you want what you want. And God's like, you may hate that man
Starting point is 01:03:59 and you may, you know, lose faith in me, but I will save you from yourself. Right, yeah. What were you going to say, Vanessa? Oh, no I will save you from yourself. Right. Yeah. What were you going to say, Vanessa? Oh, no, I'm in total agreement. Yeah. Yeah. Of what you just said.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah. So, again, it goes back to don't follow man. Follow God. Don't follow religion. Follow the word. And most importantly, have a personal, live relationship with the Holy Spirit. And if you have one that is where you're communicating with him on a daily basis, more than just over your meal, but one that you're talking constantly with,
Starting point is 01:04:42 like, I, in my head head all the time I'm having conversations and then I have my own personal prayer time but I'm I'm always like even if I'm trying to think like it's silly as it sounds but when we were coming up with the name of the women's conference I'm talking to the Holy Spirit I'm thinking, Lord, what would you have me named this? Like, what do you want? What do you want for the women? Like, that's a key man. I didn't just sit there and go, what's a cool name? Right. Yeah. Yeah. What's a, what is something that nobody else has done? Yeah. Okay. Who cares? Yeah. What is,
Starting point is 01:05:25 what does the Holy Spirit want? Right. What does He want to do? That's what matters. And if you always are open to hear Him and to do what He wants instead of what you want, if you're open to give what He wants, because listen, the odds are if you give everything away just because you want something in return, the Holy Spirit was like, I'd rather you keep your money. You should have just kept it in your pocket. You're going to be wealthier that way than doing it the spiritual way. It's the truth.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I hope you receive that. But as far as Ash Wednesday and Lent, I see nothing. If you're Catholic, go for it, I guess. Because a lot of it's just religiosity. But my thing is eat as much meat as you want. Forget about fish on Friday. And who wants an ash right in between their eyes? Not me.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Nope. Not me. I mean, maybe you do. And if you do, go for it. But let's make sure you know why you're doing what you're doing and make sure it's biblically sound. And it ain't in the Bible. So yeah. And again, even like communion, as often as you do these things. So like if it becomes repetition and it becomes where taking communion means absolutely nothing to you, maybe you should stop taking communion until you understand the value behind it and what it means.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Because what's the point? Things just become habit and they mean nothing. It's just a ritual. It's just what we do. Nothing spiritual should be just that's just what we do. Everything has a ritual. It's just what we do. Nothing spiritual should be just, that's just what we do. Everything has a purpose and everything has a meaning and it really should be valued to that much because I mean, Jesus is worthy of that. He is. Do you guys want to add anything? Any thoughts? Does anybody have any thoughts? One other thing Aaron said is that people will go
Starting point is 01:07:25 and do the ash Wednesday and put the ash on and then they go sleep with their girlfriends. So that kind of like talks about what you're saying, like make sure that like when you're doing it, like you're remaining pure and holy in it. It's not like, again, just a religious thing, but I don't know. People think like they just get so used to routine and religion and traditions that like they're doing things that are like polar opposite of the bible so just maybe like i have known people who do the lent and they give up drinking and but but they get drunk all the time yeah so they gave up drinking right and as soon as lent was over right they went back to drinking and getting drunk all the time why even bother right read the bible you're not to be drunk right right all you did is go back and
Starting point is 01:08:06 start sinning and for a short period of time you were still not saved right right you just gave up the thing for a short period of time that was your sin no that doesn't mean you repented of the sin right because you know you're going right back to it i know so to me it's a whole lot of nothing i know why even bother right aaron also brought up how most people look to religion like the Israelites did with the law. Yes. Because it's easier than having a relationship with the Lord. 100% all the time. That's why I say it can't be a ritual.
Starting point is 01:08:40 It has to be like there's a purpose. Yeah. And if that purpose, it's not symbolic it has meaning right it's like right holy if you can't understand and when i was saying that i was thinking of jesus on the cross just simply having the vision of that sacrifice that was made for us and, and thinking of it in that, in that light, then everything that you do should have some kind of passion behind it for that sacrifice. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Otherwise, what's the point? What's the point? Yeah. Yep. The ultimate was given to you. Right. So everything should be done with that in mind and the heart behind it.
Starting point is 01:09:28 So segue into the cross. Perfect. Perfect. If you don't know him today, listen, religion's religion, but a personal relationship means everything. And if you don't have one today, then let's change that right now so that your weekend is the best weekend you've ever experienced if you've known him and walked away let's get that right too listen it's really easy it's like aaron said it's really easy to be religious and live by
Starting point is 01:09:54 the law but a lot of times like the israelites had the law and then they would make a sacrifice of an animal and they'd get they'd be forgiven forgiven, right? It was as simple as that. Well, we don't have that anymore. And your sin will send you straight to hell. You don't get to sacrifice an animal and make it right. The only way to make it right is for you to repent of your sin, to live for him on a daily basis, for him to be the Lord of your life. Outside of that, you won't go to heaven. Your sin will keep you and separate you from him, and your eternity won't be with him. I know that a lot of people will tell you otherwise,
Starting point is 01:10:34 but it is not in the word. It's just not there. And I would dare you to try and find where it is. So if you don't know him, and you want to know want to become, um, and you want to know him, or if you've walked away, let's say this prayer really quick together. Let's get things right for you. And, uh, let's have a fresh start in a new beginning. It's our tribe starting right now. Heavenly father, we just come to you right now. And Lord, I thank you for what you did on the cross for me. I thank you for the price that was paid, the ultimate sacrifice, your life. I thank you for the nails that you bore on your hands and your feet
Starting point is 01:11:14 and the stripes that you bore on your back for my healing. I thank you that you became poor so that I might become rich. I receive all these promises that you provide for me through what was done on the cross. I ask you to forgive me of my sins. I promise to walk with you forever. I will lay my life down for you. I will do what you tell me to do. I will do what you tell me to do. I will go where you tell me to go.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And I will not do what you tell me not to do. And from this moment on, I will live for you. And you will be the Lord of my life. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen. Have a fantastic weekend. It is Friday. I'm super excited. Not that Friday really changes anything for me because it really doesn't, but I love Friday. I don't know. There's something
Starting point is 01:12:11 about it. I don't know. And have a great weekend. It's supposed to be beautiful here in sunny Florida. We will see you on Sunday. I think people are starting to feel better. Yeah. Praise ye the Lord. I have been praying for you, for all you sickies out there. Thank you. And see you on Sunday. If you don't have a good church, tune in to Foundation Church. It's like nothing you've ever heard before. I can promise you that. Facts.
Starting point is 01:12:38 And you will, if you just, if you stick it out for like a month. Yeah. It'll be like tonic water. There you go. You hate it at first, but then you learn to love it. Touche. Maybe not tonic water. Not tonic water.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Carbonated water. Carbonated water. Sparkling water. Sparkling water. Tonic is pretty rough. Let's do sparkling water. It'll be just like that. Thank you for tuning in.
Starting point is 01:13:03 We will see you on Wednesday of next week. I think I might do something different next week. Okay. Yeah. Spice it up. All right. So have a great weekend. And thank you, thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I love you. See you Sunday. Bye-bye. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. you you

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