The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E10 | 02-28-24

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E10 | 02-28-24

real talk hello and welcome to the hope hotline it is wednesday february 27th i got the date right and we like we are back we are completely back as a team show Show the crowd. Here we are. The peanut gallery is in full force. We got Logan back. Oh my gosh. Okay. So like it's a tough thing

for Logan to be back. Like she wanted to be back but listen she's a new mama. Separation anxiety. We were all I was just razzing her a few minutes ago. She can handle it. She's from New York.

But listen. Oh, crapola. My phone. But here's the thing. Like, Tracy, you got that picture? Look. Like, I might have separation anxiety if this was my baby. Look at that baby.

Holy crap. I know. It's ridiculous. Look at that baby. Holy crap. I know. It's ridiculous. I can see why. Is she not the most gorgeous thing on the face of the earth? I used to say to her, of course she's going to have a cute baby. Her and Chris, have you looked at them lately? I know.

Oh my gosh. That baby. Logan, I would have separation. said to Logan I do she has more separation anxiety than the actual baby has separation anxiety she goes she has it I'm like not like you sister not like you oh my gosh good moment right there but I'm glad you can't blame me. Yeah. Well, no, listen. Being a new mom, I was just given her, like, these girls over here, I'm like, I feel like I'm their mother. Even though, even though, like, they didn't ask me to be. I get that.

But somebody's trying to call me. So, Talia, I'm going to have you put my phone on do not disturb because I get solicitation calls all the time. They get my, like they don't tell me things on purpose because they don't want to hear my mouth. But in some cases, like it's going to happen. And this is one of them. But I was giving Logan a little little bit not an earful but just a motherly yeah my

spiritual mother advice to her like i'm very protective like i'm very protective of everybody that i call like my own i'm very protective of them spiritually speaking because i do not want i mean i told her i, course correcting is not fun. Like it is not, all of us have had to do it. But if you can keep yourself where like everything spiritually speaking is flowing as it should, then you really don't have to do many course correcting. And being a new mother, navigating that is not fun sometimes. Especially when you love.

Like I thought, listen, I gave people advice about their kids. Well, really not everybody. I can remember one family in particular because their kids were freaking rotten. And I don't use that word. Well, I do use that word a lot. But their kids were so dang horrible. And one in particular and i remember giving them advice thinking that like you have no children so obviously you know everything right and then you have your kid and my kid was as rotten as that worst rotten kid

or almost as rotten and you sit there and go, you know nothing. You know nothing. I was literally like, you're an idiot to have given somebody advice about kids when you have no advice, and you can't even, like, do your own kid. Tommy owned me. That's the only reason I say to Logan, like, for me, I'm like, you don't want to have to deal with that. I mean, you honestly think, like, how can I?

I love this thing so much. Like you want to like wrap it in a cocoon and make sure like nothing touches and messes or like anything. But with that, that's just speaking from experience. And I wasn't a fear-based person, but living with somebody like Tom, uh, who after we had kids, it became, he was a worrier to a certain extent and became fear-based for him because he was like really wanting to wrap them in a cocoon and things like that. But for me, I was like, I just, I don't know if I can spank that cute little thing. And then they're not so cute anymore when they're awful and they're terrible. And you're like, I'm beating you. There's going to be a beat down right coming to it.

But even then you're like, oh, and you cry after you spank. It's like a mess. But you got to do it because the word of God is the word of God. But the thing is, is like if you keep everything into perspective which i did not with tommy in all honesty i did not spiritually keep things perspective and perspective and do them correctly and having to fix that was not a pleasant experience and it can happen in all different forms and facets of either not disciplining correctly or loving too much or not loving enough. Because some people, like, leave their kids to their own demise kind of thing.

Like, there's a balance. There's a balance to everything. And learning that balance is not always fun. But like I told her, you can listen to me, but I know you're going to do what you want to do. You got it. I mean, to a certain extent, like I respect that. But then there's a place where not that she has to listen to me, but then like my dad would say, listen, biblically speaking, the word is true. A wise person listens to somebody who's already

been there. You're foolish, the word says, if you don't't and to be called a fool in the bible was like one of the most last night yeah all night to be called a fool was like one of the most insulting things you could call somebody so a foolish person does not listen to a wise person right and i will tell you this logan don't listen to anybody else don't ever listen to anybody who has no success yeah with their kids if they have no if you wouldn't want their kid right don't ever listen to anybody who has no success yeah with their kids if they have no if you wouldn't want their kid right don't listen to them because a lot of people have a lot of opinions amen and you can say and i listen i was first to say thank you but no thank you i'm not kidding you i would tell if people wanted to tell me something about something i'd be like

i appreciate the offer but i really don't want to have your advice. And I would say it as nice as possible, but like why waste their breath and why waste my time? Because I wasn't going to apply it and I really didn't want to hear it because they weren't wise to me. So, and I didn't let just anybody discipline my kid. Like there were, you know, there were some people

like Heather says to me, like you can correct my kid. Like if my kids are naughty or whatever, you can correct them. And there were certain people that I gave that authority to, but not very many. And I've given that authority to Heather for me as well. Heather, if I'm messing up, of course, correct me, fix me in that moment. Like, tell me, just like she did a second ago, she's like, she will be in my office and I will text you if anything is going on.

Logan wanted her in here. And Heather's like, it's going to be all right. She's going with me. But Heather's been waiting for the opportunity. I know. The child will probably come back more spoiled than she was with Logan. Truth be told. You know.

But in a very balanced way. Yeah. So, okay. Well, let's get going. Do your thing. Okay. But don't share that last one. I won't.

I'll show it to you first. Yeah. Okay. I'm excited. Should we do this first? Do you see what's up on the screen? Should we show? Because you're already wearing it.

Yeah, girl, do it. Okay, let's go. So obviously, Hope is sporting something new today. So we have officially landed on our new merch. Thank you, Jesus. So we will be selling this. It'll be up on the website soon. So you got to hold on for a little bit longer, but we're going to figure that out,

get that everything figured out. But we've got the Hope Hotline logo and the trucker hat was the winner. I love this hat. I know. It's got the netting. It does. It does.

I love this hat. I do too. Super cute. Great color. I love the gray. I actually voted for ball cap. So are you going to do that later? What is that, hun?

I voted for ball cap. Are you going to do that later? That's a trucker cap. Oh, trucker hat. You want a ball cap, like no netting? No netting, yeah. Are you going to do one later, maybe? Just for you, Logan, we'll do one later.

Like this summer or something? Oh, we'll do it before then, baby. I'll do it. I'll do it before then. See, I obviously have no restraining. I know. It's good. It's terrible. But listen, who knows? Hey, to the ones that I love, I obviously have no restraining. I know. It's good. It's terrible.

But listen, who knows? Hey, to the ones that I love, I'm a sucker. I'm a daggum sucker. I kid you not. Like, Heather spoke. She taught. And I don't know if she's called. I consider that was a teaching on Monday night she did for the ladies.

And I've kind of forced her hand into that, but I knew it's something she needed to do. And I already told her, like, you did so good. I'm so proud of you. But then on the way home, I mean, then I was doing something yesterday, and I'm like, I'm so dang proud of her. I know. I was like, I got to call her.

I was like, you already told me that. I'm like, but i just have to tell you again so proud i know i'm so glad she's doing that gosh she did such a great job but with you know you have such affection for people i know and then you're a sucker and then there's the spiritual balance which i tend to have a problem with. I'll give you whatever you want, Logan. There you go. Okay, so go ahead. Okay, okay. Here we go. So let's see. We've got a few people on Facebook. We got a lot of people on Facebook now. So if you are on Facebook, you can absolutely like or love or whatever. Maybe not angry person, but like or love, give us a little reaction,

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Very great quality. And our UBU t-shirt. So those are our beginning things today. And I'm going to pop back to us before we do the next one. We know Logan's baby will never need the spoon. Ever. In Jesus name. She will be cooking. She'll be cooking with a spoon. CJ will never need the spoon. Such a good girl. That's what I thought about my kids. Norma not so much. Yeah. Tommy all the time. So with Norma, did you just have to give her the look and she knew? Oh, Norma was super compliant.

Okay. Like, you didn't even really need to give her a look. Wow. I mean, she was a liar. She was really little. And Tom always says, like, he told her, like, okay, she wasn't three. Yeah. She's pretty young.

Yeah. She's probably five. And he didn't say it exactly like he says it in the service. But but i mean she pretty much knew yeah like it's a big deal she understood what he was saying but he did he wasn't like you're going to hell you'll never see but he was pretty much like listen that's the reality because she would never understood what he was saying, but he basically told her, like, lying, Jesus doesn't like that, and you won't see Jesus, and you won't see your mama if you keep lying because Jesus don't like that. So she understood.

She really wasn't lying, I think, at three. It was more like five. But here's the thing. She did lie about she would go and sit like potty training. He isn't. He was not. He's not exaggerating about potty training. She was two and still in a diaper.

And not that I mean, some people have their kids at three, but by two, they they understand. Yeah. And so he's like, we're not having a kid go into the bathroom in their pants after two because tommy who well tommy tommy just really was all about what tommy wanted no not tommy not tommy but tommy like um tommy liked to play like he didn't understand, but he actually knew and understood. And if he could be potty trained by two, and he's a boy.

Boys would have a tougher time. They're like, girl. But she liked to hide and poop in her pants behind the chair. Like all the time. She'd go in her room, hide behind a door, hide behind the chair, and then go to the bathroom.

That's when he would be like, what are you doing in there? Nothing. And she'd come out and she stinks. stinks he's like it ain't gonna happen that's when he was like you're lying you can't lie that's where it comes from so that's why he was nipping it because the bible says that god hates that right yes he does and so tom's like takes all that serious. And Tom really, he took our kids' salvation. He took our kids' salvation. Sarah's walking in. Tom, when it came to our kids being saved and their eternal destination,

he took that super, super serious from a very, very young age. So to a certain extent, I mean, like he is accurate in what he's saying. It's just not exactly how he said it. So, yeah. Um, but,

uh, but yeah, normal was normal was super. That's the only time like going to the bathroom for her and not being potty trained or being potty trained was probably the most difficult thing we had with her. Other than that, even as a teenage girl she never was disrespectful nasty rude I mean she had moments where like it was very minor in comparison to like what most people deal with uh high school

or teenagers junior high and we never dealt with any of that stuff never like they our kids were people used to always go it's gonna change or wait till they're in their 20s since you didn't deal with it in their teens i'm like well thank you for prophetically speaking horror over me appreciate that i know i'll be like no in the name of jesus or the famous one, which don't receive the slogan. Seriously. Family members would love if you were wild, because I went through a wild time, family members will be like, you're going to get paybacks when your kids grow up.

And I'm like, no, I'm not. In the name of Jesus, I rebuke you. It's not going to happen. My kids don't have to follow in my footsteps because I was an idiot. They can stay saved. They don't have to. And so like when family wants to speak that over you, just that's a curse. I don't receive that curse. Not happening. And my kids, they will always, always, you know, I would say like Tommy and Norma like have gone through little minor things. I think when they went to 18 and 19, they were like,

do I believe what I believe because my parents believe it and they told me I have to? Or do I believe it because I choose to believe it? And so I would say minorly, they had to figure that out. But on the whole, there was nothing. Like it was nothing. Yeah. Like, it was nothing. So you don't have to deal with that, which both of them, Vanessa and –

now it's three. The three of them can tell you, like, even if you've walked through, like, different stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be like that. Were you transparent at that age?

Were you transparent about how you were at their age? Oh, my kids, here's the thing. My kids know a lot about my past, but there is a lot that they don't know about my past. A good balance. I did not, and I've told them. They know. They know that they don't know everything.

But I also told them that, I mean I, they know, like they don't, they know that they don't know everything, but I also told them that, I mean, obviously Tom does, Tom knows all about me, but, but I told them, I said, well, good comes from it. Right. And if you want to know, then I'll absolutely tell you. Like when they've asked me certain questions, I've been like, I would love to tell you that that's not true about me, but that is absolutely true about me.

And yes, I did do that or whatever. And they were like, okay, whatever. But for me, it's not, there's no shame because I'm not that person, right? It's not because I'm ashamed, but I'm like, what good comes out from puking all that up? There's nothing good that comes out for them or for me. So why even, there's no glory in sin. I'm not going to glorify it.

But if they ask me, I'll absolutely tell them. But when we've talked about things, they're like, you're not even that person. So it really is irrelevant to me because you weren't saved then. It doesn't matter. And that's where the healthiness comes from it. But I think, you know, people used to say to me, you're going to have to tell them sometime. I'm like, why would I have to tell them? I mean, if they ask me, yeah, absolutely.

But why? Why do you have to, like, share all that ugly? If it ever comes up and if it's ever exposed or if they ever ask me, I'll own every single thing. But it's because it's not who I am today. But I just don't think there's any glory in it. I don't think it's necessary. So why do it?

Yep. I agree. Agree or disagree? 100% agree. Yeah. Do you not want to be so transparent? You want to save some purity? Because I think it justifies sin sometimes for parents.

That's true. When they share that with their kid, especially if their kid's going through some tough times. Well, you came out of it. You came out of it. No, you might not. Right. Right. Right.

So for me, that's one of the reasons why I was like, that stuff just doesn't need to be shared. I don't want to justify. I'm stealing it from somebody else, but I want to create boundaries, not barriers. So if they have a question about something, I'll be transparent. If I need to use it as an example, I'll let the Holy Spirit lead me on that. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's so many examples in the Bible that are good ones that I don't think I need to let myself be the example.

You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Those are there for a reason. Yes. But whatever. Just my opinion. And we've gotten to no questions.

But I'm so happy she's back. And now Sarah's here. I apologize for my tardiness. And we've gotten to no questions. But I'm so happy she's back. Me too. And now Sarah's here. I know. What happened? I apologize for my tardiness. I thought I could get my nails done at two down the road and be here by three. No. Okay, who did you go to?

Oh, you didn't go to Anna then? No, I go to Anna. No, definitely not. She was here in an hour. She was here in an hour. she was here in an hour that is true are you bleeding I'm just saying if you go to escape nails and this is very very this is this is like iffy for me because you might take my person from me don't do it don't do it I would keep don't do it keep it yeah Keep it secret. Yeah, don't tell anybody. You've got to gatekeep something. Yeah. You know what? Gatekeep it.

I just kind of already did it, though. But you know what? I'm going to say this. I'm going to tell you this. Like, I go to Mara. I can now tell you because my face is way better because my girl, Tracy Lopes. Hey. That's who I go to for my facials. She's good.

She is. I love her. I need her. You need the information. I need her. I'm your girl but Tracy did you did you did you go to her not yet but I have to go to my appointment but her and herself like she's so peaceful like her go close to the mic mic is like okay I've never had a facial until

last year oh wow never in my life yeah where have you been all my life, Tracy Lopes? I know. I know. What service did you get? What did she do? What has she not done? Okay. That's the question. Oh. Like, this stuff that, I love this stuff that she originally gave me for my face, but it

burned, because, like, retinol's not good for everybody's faces. It burned the tar out of me. Okay. Like, the personal attention, and it's not because it's me. It's just, that's how she is. She the tar out of me okay like the personal attention and it's not because it's me it's just that's how she is she would do this for the personal attention to to the detail and to make sure that i got the exact same thing exact thing that i needed i just like there are some people who are customer care based yeah service based and then there's some people are like yeah we'll just figure it out i'm like okay, okay, I don't want somebody to just,

I like, it's my face. It hurt. Not that this face is so great. I'm just saying, your face hurts. Yeah, it does. I had no idea that you could burn the tar out of your face. Oh, yeah. With retinol, yes.

No idea. That hurt. But, so, if you've never gotten a facial, I'm just saying. Have you guys all gotten facials before? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Where have I been? Yeah.

Well, she tells me to shut up. She's like, you know, you might be more relaxed if you're quiet. I'm like, I never see you, so let's chat. I know. So, now she's just succumbed to it yeah she knows this girl oh i actually have fallen asleep and snored she did tell me she's like she's like you you were snoring and i'm like oh i shut up that's amazing not really though i guess i must have fallen asleep in in the midst of a sentence

in the in the middle of talking yeah. Yeah. In the middle of talking. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Talia goes to her. Has anybody else ever gone to her? Yeah, I do. She does my eyebrows. Oh, Tracy goes to her. We can all highly recommend her.

Very highly. And you know who else just got her, well, not just got her license, but is now doing it too, is Brynn. Yes. Brynn Clements. Yes. She just stepped out on her own and started her own business. And her studio is so cute.

She just showed it to me. She's adorable. Yeah. I think, hey, listen. I might be exposing some truth, something right here, but I think she's dating somebody here at the church.

I think it's new. It's new. I'm not saying the name, but I'm just... They're like seeing if there's a good friendship there. I kind of... They're cute together. They are.

Yeah. Well, they better change their Facebook status now. Are you sure? They didn't... I don't think they have... Sarah, I don't think they have anything on Facebook. I don't think they have Facebook because they're in their 20s. And Facebook is... Nobody does that. Nobody does Facebook. I don't think they have Facebook because they're in their 20s and Facebook is...

Nobody does Facebook. No, I just deleted the app today. I'm just done. I'm over it. Has somebody been mean to you on Facebook? No, I'm just not. You're not a Facebooker. I just sent you a message on Facebook.

It's not my thing either. I have no, mm-mm. I mean, listen, everybody that's watching on social media right now, you need to keep it. You stay.

Yeah, don't you dare go anywhere. I'm in big trouble if you leave. I still dabble with TikTok though. I dabble, dabble.

Oh, so you want to be chased and tracked by China. Yes, we do. Sounds great. Okay, so I don't get to talk to adults like all tracked by China. Yes, we do. Sounds great. Okay, so I don't get to talk to adults all the time anymore.

Tracy, Logan, you're so funny. Can I just tell you what my new pet peeve is on Facebook? Yes. As a new mama, other moms putting their babies on display, like everything about them. Happy two months. My baby likes to put their head up and look at me and make big poops. Listen.

Oh, my gosh. You have not left a detail out. Why does everyone need to know that? Logan, okay, before when you were single, you understood one-upism in a whole different way. Now when you have kids, people understood one-upism in a whole different way. Now when you have kids, people one-up with their children. It's pathetic. Guard their heart. We don't need to know everything about them. Well, even still, like what makes you think? It's like, I don't care what you eat. What makes you think I care what your baby's done all day long? Well, I hope my girlfriends

care enough to listen to me, but I'm not going to post it on social media. In that same vein, Jeff hates Christmas cards. He's like, why do you think I want a picture of your family? To pray over it while it sits on your fridge? That's exactly what I want. That's exactly what I want.

Hello? Well, listen, do you know how many pictures some people would have on their fridge a lot yeah a lot i have a lot well listen no thank you i'm the same way just send it in any send it in put it on social media or something like that i've missed you guys so much thanks for letting me know oh my god this goes with like tracy and i this wonderful woman came up to tracy and i i know on sunday it's her first and me next as she was leaving this is you guys need to know this this is sweet because this isn't the first time this has been said to me. This has been told to me more than once. More than twice.

Like this woman lives alone. And so she says that she loves watching the podcast because for the hour, which that's if I end in an hour. We all know that that's probably not going to happen. But just in case, she said for the hour. She's like, I feel like because she lives alone. She's said for the hour uh she's like i feel like because she lives alone she's like for the hour i feel like i'm with my friends hanging out and i'm like that's the point yeah exactly that's the point right i think god created that just yeah so thank you for telling us that if you people think that you know and listen I don't I don't subscribe to like praising and because if

you take the praise then you got to take the criticism that's I don't subscribe to you know reading and embracing the the the stuff that is said I don't embrace i appreciate the things when people say kind things but i also know with that is going to come the negative and i don't believe either one of them because if you do the highs and the lows are coming right right so it's nice but that wasn't what what was said with that so we'll take that all day long because then it makes us know, like, we're doing a good job, right? Right. As far as what we're trying to accomplish. If you guys want to say stuff like that, it's fine.

But the rest of it, I mean, I'm not saying I don't appreciate it. Somebody sent me a really nice Instagram message yesterday or the day before. I love that. I appreciate that. But I don't ride on that because I also know somebody is going to have something nasty to say. Or there's the criticisms, right? So you just can't, you know, buy what everybody is selling. Yeah.

Because then you'd have to buy the negative. And then that's not fun. So then they're for both of them. But that's awesome. And that's sweet. Because Tracy was like, you're not going to believe it. And I'm like, I know. She told me the same thing.

I know. So, so sweet. I really was. I appreciate that. I really was. So right now, you're sitting in your living room or wherever you're at. And we're sitting there with you. I know. Goofy wherever you're at, and we're sitting there with you. I know.

Goofy as all get out, but we're sitting there with you. Exactly. Ain't a one of us, like, stable and being mature. Okay. I'm 56 going on 57. And I act like I'm still in my 20s i'm pretty stable immaturity or like being no you're not all of it i wore a blazer today so i'm like super look at how mature she is you can like again you can dress them up but like every single one of us it's sad like all three of them including sarah including sarah i say this i'll hang out with teenagers because they choose to and they fit

in great talia my girl talia is one of my best friends and so and my daughter who's 23 is best friends with all of them. She dresses CJ. Thank you, Norma. I love Norma. Me too. She's also one of my best friends. None of you are in your 20s. What?

Not you, even though you believe. I'm just saying, not a one of us are stable in being mature. So we fit in. I'm the oldest in the group. And I sometimes act the most immature. Just having fun. Huh? We're just having fun.

Just having fun. On the whole, we're pretty professional. On the whole. On the whole. I'm not. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you for being honest, Sarah. Sarah's the only one right now that's not going to hell over there in the peanut gallery.

I just think. Every single one of them right now, hell is their destination. They just don't know it. No, no, no. I just think, like, hope you just be you. That's all. I am being me. And I'm telling you, you're all going straight to hell.

Except for Sarah. I plead the fifth. So, listen, I kind of want a drum roll. I have less than 30 minutes to answer questions. Yeah, we will. But I don't care. Because we will. Right. But this is like a drum roll. I have less than 30 minutes to answer questions. Yeah, we will. But I don't care because we will. Right. We will.

But this is like a big deal. I want a drum roll, but I don't have one. Can we? Can we? We have the new logo for Beloved. Woohoo! This is the new conference that we're going to have in August. It's the new logo. It's the new everything. It's the color scheme. we're going to have in August. It's the new logo.

It's the new everything. It's the color scheme. It's going to be awesome. And it's victorious. Victorious. So save the date. Oh, my gosh, Sarah. August 22nd through the 24th.

Put it on your calendars. Save the date. Save the date. It's going to be a good one. It is. It's going to be. It's like nothing we've ever done before. Yep.

It's going to be awesome. I'm super excited. Yep. Save the date. Super excited. So. And poor Tracy. What?

Trying to come up. Listen. Poor me. I feel bad for you. Why? Because I told her what I wanted. I sent her pictures. love it i made her change it about 100 times no it's good no no it was perfect it was good we were we were we were

tracking we were tracking we had like we had the thought you know i just saw that pastor donica says put something about something michael j fox quote about being a perfectionist and doing things in excellence. I was about to say, but I'm a perfectionist. And apparently that's not a good thing. Her Michael J. Fox. So I like things in excellence. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. That's the reason why I'm like, that thing's going to live with us for the whole year. What are you laughing at, Sarah? Because I said Michael J. Fox. Because I'm thinking I'm Marty McFly. I'm listening to Marty McFly.

Yeah. So that thing's going to be with us. I got to do a lot of stuff. I want that thing to be right. And I am in love. Yeah. Yeah. With what God's given us.

So it's going to be a good one. So mark it on your calendar. If you don't live in the area, get your plane ticket. Get ready to travel. Come on down here. It's going to be fun. It's going to be good. It's going to be a weekend.

Well, it's certainly not the weekend. Yeah. Well, kind of. It'll be a great few days. Thirsty through. Thirsty through Saturday. It's going to be so good. Yep.

Okay. Stephanie Holland's going to do her best to be there. Hey, listen, listen. So that would be awesome. I was about to say, I'll pay half your plane ticket.

Oh, to get down here. Hey, you know what? She doesn't need one. She flies for free. That's not going to happen. You know who I want?

Okay. You know what would mean the world to me? I'm going to put her on the spot. Kristen. Kristen. Which I've been meaning to text her to see how she's doing because I haven't heard from her in a really long time, but she's been doing the family thing.

Lots of family. Just had a grandbaby. She has a life other than us. But, man, I would love it if she came. Okay. That would be awesome. And anybody else that doesn't live in the area. Yeah, come back.

Like, I would love to meet some people that either watch Foundation Church or watch this podcast that we don't know. Yeah. Which a lot of them have been visiting the church, and they've been saying, you know, as they leave, they say goodbye, and then they're like, hey, I love your podcast, which I don't know if you guys get to. Do they ever come up to you and say, hey? Yes.

Oh, they do, Logan? Yes. I even had a couple of people gift cards and someone got us a beautiful dress for CJ. Like, yes. We've got good followers. Oh, that is. See, I love you people. I know. You are part of followers. Oh, that is. See? I love you people.

I know. You are part of the family. 100%. People don't see Sarah. Sarah's got dark hair, so all you think is she has a floating head with a bandana. Well, actually not floating head because you're not in black. Whatever. Unless Vanessa's head gets in her way. Which is pretty close.

Yeah, I know. They got to get that mic going. Because I need to eat the mic. Yeah. Thank you. My voice does not project in the way that Sarah says. So I was told. That is correct.

That I have to. That is correct information. She's got the sultry, sexy voice. She does. Her Barry Manilow. It works for me. You know what? Like, when she sings, I always tell her she's our jazz singer.

Like, she should be in a smoke-filled, like, lounge. Hey. Bar lounge singing. Lying on a piano. If you were to picture somebody who would be smoking in a bar lounge singing, it's Vanessa. Vanessa. You're welcome. Oh, my gosh.

Forget Jesus. Yeah. Just go straight to the bar lounge and start singing in your sultry, sexy welcome. Oh, my gosh. Forget Jesus. Yeah. Just go straight to the bar lounge and start singing in your sultry, sexy voice. Oh, my gosh. You'd make a lot of money. I love it. Plus, you're hot, so that does help. That's true.

That's true. I'll take it. I'll take it. Yep. So, should we actually do what the podcast is all about, which is actually ask a question? Yeah, I'm interested. Are we ready to go? Yeah, I'm interested about the first question.

So we got some notes. I do. What's up with this piece of hair right here? What's up with that? She's coming. Kristen's coming. Oh, look at that. Heather just commented.

Heather, you're supposed to be watching season two. Get off your phone, Heather. You're doing childcare. That is funny. I have to remind the teenagers about that. I shouldn't be reminding. We shouldn't be reminding Heather. She's just multitasking.

No, Heather's eyes. As far as Logan's concerned, Heather's eyes should be fixated on that baby continuously. Zero distractions. I love it. Every breath. Yeah. Up and down.

Yeah. Up and down. Yes. Okay. Okay. Let's get going. Okay, so you guys are going to answer part of this question. Okay.

Okay? Yeah. Has everyone experienced deja vu? Because they want you guys, going to answer part of this question okay okay yeah has everyone experienced deja vu because they want you guys she's this i don't know if it's a she he or she is saying hope and you guys yeah she even i say she if it's a he i'm super sorry i don't know if what sex this person is for right now if you're a man to a woman right now for just a brief moment because I'm going to say she. So has everyone experienced deja vu? Hope in peanut gallery.

I'm telling you, everybody refers to you guys as a peanut gallery now. I love it. Keep it up. I am getting shirts. We have to make shirts. Yeah, I have an idea. I have an idea. Is it got a peanut?

Yeah. No, no, no. I have an idea. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can't idea. I have an idea. Is it got a peanut? Yeah. No, no, no. I have an idea. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I can't wait. Okay.

I'll show it to you first. Are we allowed to use like the Charlie Brown peanut? Listen. You're tracking with me and I'm tracking with you. Let's keep those art terminologies going for this thing. Exactly. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Exactly. Okay. It's so weird

for having Talia sitting on the couch. I know. I miss Talia. But she refuses to sit in a bar stool because of her posture. Her back. Oh, she's taking pictures. Okay. Has everyone experienced deja vu? Hope, peanut color. I've experienced it since childhood. It still happens often about four times a year.

What are your thoughts about it? Is there a biblical explanation? Rather than going to our second Bible, Google, for answers, I am going straight to the experts. Okay, and this is a woman asking. Thank you. It is a woman? Yes, I just confirmed. Sweet.

So you're right. So no man is being transgendered right now. Nope, nope. We're sticking with it. I have not castrated anyone. No, you have not. To answer this question. Okay.

I'm going to say, like, I do feel like I've had deja vu before. I do. Like, since, like, I don't know. I don't know if I was a kid and did it, but probably since a teenager to adulthood, I do feel like I've done deja vu. Do all of you guys feel like you've had deja vu? So everybody over there feels like that.

How often do you feel like it happens to you? Not often, but it does. Not often for me. Not four times a year. No. Logan? Maybe a couple times a year. Maybe a couple times a year.

Okay. All right, so I couldn't find any scripture, none about deja vu in the Bible. But I found out some interesting things about deja vu. This could be good and this could be bad. Deja vu means already seen. Been there, done that is another terminology for it. Approximately two-thirds of adults claim they have had a deja vu experience.

That's a lot of people. Two-thirds. It's not like three-fourths, but it's a good amount. It's not like 75% of the population. It's not. But two-thirds is a pretty big deal. Nothing. You.

Are we doing math? Not two-thirds. I'm just saying. Yeah. It's a lot of people. It is. What is that? You did. That's what you said. It's a lot of people. It is. What is that? You did.

That's what you said. It's a lot of people? Yeah. Okay. You know what? I am going to go back and I'm going to watch this just because of you, Tracy. It wasn't. Because I can't hear half of the things she's saying sometimes.

I didn't. She's over there busting my chops, I think. I'm going to find out what she's busting. It was funny when you were like two-thirds. Not three-fourths. 75%. Not 75%. I was just figuring was funny when you were like two-thirds. Not three-fourths. 75%. Not 75%. I was just figuring that out. I'm like two-thirds. Three-fourths

is a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just the processing. Girl math. Yeah, that's all. 100% girl math. 1,000. 1,000. 100%. 1,000. Keep it up with the math. Okay.

So deja vu. Shut up, Sarah. Deja vu experiences have been connected with medical conditions such as, now this is where it's not good. Oh. I point to Logan. Go ahead. Diagnose me. Deja vu experiences have been connected with medical conditions such as schizophrenia, epilepsy, anxiety.

Oh, you got me. Not this girl. Huh? Not this girl. I think it's not that. Keep going. Schizophrenia, I experienced that this morning in the gym. Oh, my gosh.

Yep. Did you go? Your back's good? Yes, I'm back, baby. My daughter's mouth is back in shape. Yeah, but. But listen, I worked out in Vegas once. But I worked out.

Yeah. And last week was impossible because the world was coming to an end because Norma got her wisdom tooth taken. Poor Norma. Norma. That was rough. We're so happy you're better. Listen, I prayed.

Obviously, my faith was not very good because it was rough. Doesn't have to be like that for everyone. Do better than the likely household. Because it is rough. Okay. No one really knows what causes these episodes, although psychologists have also come up with their theories such as stress and internal hidden conflicts. Okay.

Interesting, huh? Mm-hmm. I have a spiritual thing that I think it is, but some believe deja vu is the memory of previously forgotten dreams, which I think that's a lot of deja vu. Okay. Which I think that's a lot of deja vu. To be perfectly honest with you, I do not believe for one second that Logan experiences schizophrenia. Yeah, exactly. Or is anxiety ridden. Right.

Or what was the other one? Epilepsy. Epilepsy. We definitely know she does not have epilepsy. But that's what I think a lot of it is, is forgotten dreams. Because I feel like that's when I've had mine I feel like oh I feel like I've done this before but I felt like it was in a dream not like that I actually experienced it before would you guys agree with that no no I feel like it's literally happened before and I know the next step that's gonna happen like it's it's

unfolding and I'm like oh my gosh that's when happen. What? Like it's unfolding and I'm like, oh my gosh, that's when it feels like deja vu to me. Like when I'm like, I know what's going to happen next and it does. Oh, that's not how it is deja vu is for me. Deja vu is like if I experience something, I feel like I've been here, I've done this before, but I don't know what's going to happen next. It's after

I've experienced it. I'm like, I've been here before. Not in the middle of it. Vanessa is the same way. Like an eerie feeling. Yes. But you don't know what's going to happen next, right? No, I do.

No. Talia, we need your opinion. I feel like she's the same as me. Deja vu. Like you know what's going to happen next? Yeah. Do you know what's going to happen next? Yeah.

See? I know. Well, don't ever come in my office again. That freaks me out slightly. She said she had it with a conversation with me in my office. Maybe that's the schizophrenia part. Maybe that's the schizophrenia part. I literally, I literally said to the trainer this morning,

okay, I'm schizophrenic right now. Why? What happened? I'm just not right right now in the gym. Okay. I'm not. What does that mean? You're not right in the gym either,

but see, Vanessa's not with me anymore in the gym. She's decided to go off on her own in a whole new direction. For reasons. Yeah, for reasons. Good reasons. I'm just saying. Do you feel like that in the gym right now for yourself? Like deja vu?

No, like you're schizophrenic. I missed that whole thing. Didn't she just tell me she was schizophrenic in the gym? Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. Short-term memory is off. It was Logan. Logan said it. Oh, yes. Oh, you.

Okay, see, I can't see nothing. I started working out again, and I feel totally schizophrenic. You don't listen. What's that mean? What does that mean? I don't know where my body starts. I don't know. My body is wanting to do one thing. Okay, okay. I get it. I get it. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you for clarifying. I'm all over the place. I was like. In my mind, I'm doing it. Thank you. When I look in the mirror, I'm like, you are not doing it. You're not doing it? I thought I was squatting.

But you're not. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now I get it. I get it. Yeah.

I don't know. Like, my body is super sore right now. Like, super sore. Because I haven't done it in two weeks. Yeah. Which is like I'm like a four to five day or weaker to take off. Right. That much time.

It's crazy. I know. I never have. I know. I mean, I never gone a week yet where I didn't go. Yeah. The amazing thing about our bodies, though, you have muscle memory. Yes. So your muscles will

like respond quicker than well now that i have when you first started yeah before i started this i had no muscle right yeah so yeah i'm hoping that's the case i don't know i i'll be honest with you i've never experienced having muscle so i'm hoping what you're saying is true it is it is it'll come back 100 true yeah so you So you guys. Yeah. I don't know. You three can predict what the next part of the conversation is going to be. What about you? No. Sarah.

I'm talking about Sarah, Logan, and Tracy. As it's unfolding, it gets deeper and deeper. And I'm like, no, this has definitely happened before. Yeah. Every step. Is it spiritual though? No. Is it spiritual things?

I don't think so. No, no, no. So it's just regular generic things? I think there's something spiritual that I just don't understand what's going on. That I'm like, oh, there's something going on here. But it's happening. It's just normal stuff. It's just a conversation where you're at.

Like something weird will fall and you're like, I knew that. Yeah. No, it's nothing spiritual for me. Okay, so here's the thing, because like Tom, Tom, like since COVID, will see something or experience something and he'll be like, I feel like I've been here before. Right. And he's like, I, he's like, I, I feel like, because he's not really a deja vu person really. And he's like, I don't know. He's like, is this spiritual or is this like, what is this? This is weird. And so, uh, the last time we were in Tampa, not the last time, maybe a couple of times before that

pastor Rodney was talking to us. I think it was the last time we were talking and he was saying how that in 2020, that same time Tom, he started experiencing it and he was like, he couldn't put his finger on it. And then now he's come to come around. He's like thinking, I think this is completely spiritual because I've never really been here been here done that kind of person yeah that he you know when he was talking to and I started saying to Tom I'm like see I and I even said to him then I was like I tend to wonder if

it isn't because you're tapped in spiritually speaking and so is Pastor Ronnie to certain things because they are like Paul Revere's and trying to get the word out and trying to wake Christians up and things like that. And I'm like, I tend to wonder if it isn't spiritual. So that's why I was asking you guys because I was saying there's two sides to this. I was making fun with Logan with schizophrenia and stuff like that. But I was like, maybe it's spiritual for you guys. But you just said, so I'm back on the kick

that it's probably they're schizophrenic over there. I don't know. There's something not right. Because it's obviously not. Except for Sarah. Sarah said she might think it is. Well, we have a medical professional that's chiming in. I'm pretty sure this is Natalie.

She says that it's parts of your brain that recognize familiar situations getting activated inappropriately. Okay. What does that mean? I don't know. When your mind is trying to catch up with what's already happening. Okay.

That's what deja vu is. No. Disagree. That's just what I've heard. That's just what I've heard. I disagree as well. I always go back to the matrix

when they say that deja vu is when there's a glitch in the matrix because some of the bad guys like entered into the thing yeah yeah it's a glitch

it's a glitch in the matrix that's where I always go the portal opens we need to figure out how to control it spiritual things are happening that I don't know what's going on

yeah something happened and I see the black cat walking past again yeah yeah that I just saw right so I think it might be spiritual but the things that are happening during deja vu moments are just normal things that's what i like so i don't know if it's i don't know if it's spiritual but the things that are happening that are weird that i'm like playing out my mind happen

to you very much no sarah says she doesn't have it very much no you will now i know thanks a lot now that we've talked about it. Yeah. That's probably true. Because I kind of feel like I've been here, right? Like this has happened before. This conversation. No way.

You're so full of crap. You're not catching me in a blonde moment, Sarah. Forget that noise. Oh my gosh. I'm not going to be that gullible. Yeah. I don't have a lot of sunning in my hair. I do. I'm looking. I know. That's all she uses is sunning. She doesn't gullible yeah i don't have a lot of sunning in my hair i do look at i

know that's all she uses is sunning she doesn't color her hair i don't she uses sunning listen it works does its thing you be you i am gonna be i'm gonna keep going to jolene smart um you know you have it happen twice a year lo Logan? Like twice a year? At least, yeah. At least. Oh, wow. What in the world? I know. Is it a wild imagination?

Is that what, if that's not Natalie, is that what that means? It's Natalie. She's on Rumble. I would really love to know. And I'm not kidding you. I did some research before coming. And I read where deja vu could also simply be the result of something occurring that is very similar to an event in the past. I don't like it.

Oh, my gosh, Sarah. I love it. Boring. No way. We don't receive that. Yeah. No way. No way. We do't receive that, Vanessa. No way. We do not receive that. I prefer to be schizo.

Don't be offended. I don't know. That's an option, too. I don't know what it is. That's an option. That's an option. I don't have it happen to me very often. But it has happened.

So I don't know. But mine weren't spiritual either. Tom's tends to be like both. Yeah. Like if something happens, he's like. That's the reason why I said I think yours is spiritual or something. Because mine's just my old carnal nature. Yeah.

Nothing more than that. Ready to go to the next one? Yeah. Let's get in two. We got seven minutes. Let's do this. We can do it? Let's get in two. We got seven minutes. Let's do this. We can do it. Let's get in two.

Let's do it. Oh, man. All right. And Heather seems to be doing just fine. I know. Everybody's happy as can be. CJ is probably asleep or she's just playing with Heather. Yeah.

How are you feeling? Are you like, are you got the jitters? Oh, yeah. I'm still sweating. But I'm okay. She's with the best. She's going to have a tick very soon jitters? Oh, yeah. I'm still sweating. But I'm okay. She's with the best. She's going to have a tick very soon. Yep.

Hey, listen. Seven minutes. She's missing her baby. Less than. 6.37. I get it. We got it. I said six minutes and 33 seconds.

Oh, my gosh. Listen, that's how it was when my kids went to private school. They never went to public school. But when they went to private school, they went to that pre-K because you had to do it. Listen, I was counting down. I'm like, oh, I can't wait to see them. It makes it super special though. It's healthy. Yeah. So, okay. Do you have any personal rules about money? I got lots of rules about money. Lots of them, but none of them that are hard. They're all biblical. Okay. My biggest rule is pay your tithe. That's my biggest rule. Good rule. Yep. Biggest rule, no matter what, no matter what, pay your tithe. Because if you are worried about money,

if you have any concerns at all, you start paying your tithe, all that goes away. It's just a guarantee that whatever you need will be taken care of. The provision will be there. Isn't the name of God for the money Jehovah Rapha? Jireh. Jireh, Jehovah Jireh. That's right. So that he has a name.

And God has lots of names for a healer. Jehovah Rapha is the healer? Is that the healer? Rapha is the healer. Yeah. Because there's ones that, salvation and stuff like that, there's ones that you just know that you got

that are your promises. And so sometimes even I get them confused. But yeah, so you have your healer and you have your provider. And those two, you should be able to call him out on those things. And you should know that he's got it taken care of. He is your provider. So you don't have to worry about your money. You do if you don't pay your tithe.

And here's the thing. Lots of people think that they can give an offering and an offering is as good as paying your tithe that's not the truth that's not what it says throughout the scripture doesn't say to give an offering it says to give a tithe a 10 of what you make offering is not oh looky looky what you make. Offering is not, oh, looky, looky what you got there. Let's put that up. So Tracy just pulled this up, which is some of, he has lots of other names behind. I've taught a class on the names of God, of Jesus, or names of God. Yeah. And it was such a great, such a great book. But these are just a few of them. Jehovah Jireh is the Lord who will provide a sacrifice. Jehovah Rapha is the Lord that healeth thee.

Jehovah Shammah, the Lord is present. Jehovah Shalom, the Lord our peace. Jehovah Nisi, the Lord our banner. Jehovah Ra, the Lord my shepherd. And Jehovah, I don't know that one, the Lord our righteousness. Okay, Sarah, what is that? Sidcanu. Sidcanu.

The T is silent. Yeah, I knew it was silent that? Sid Canoe. Sid Canoe. The T's silent. Yeah, I knew it was silent, but I do not. Sid Canoe. Sid Canoe. Thank you. Since I teach a hub group on righteousness, I know that one. Thank you very much. Oh, perfect. It's a very popular hub group, by the way.

It is. She's well liked. Well loved. Yes, she is. For now. Well, we all go through our times true that been there done that um you always want to give an offering so i'm not telling you to do anything that i don't do so um for example um so for example, like, so Tom and I give our tithe, which is 10%, and then we give above our 10%, which is an offering. And then on top of that, Tom and I pledged for the uh a certain amount of money and so like every week and i mean excuse me yeah every week you know every month excuse me every month we put a significant amount of money towards that pledge that we made so we can keep so like if you pledge a certain amount of money

for whatever like a lot of times people pledge and that's a promise a pledge is a promise and you you don't follow through on your pledge okay you're that's your word so if you're gonna pledge something it doesn't matter if it takes you a period of time to fulfill that pledge understand because sometimes people are like thinking that i can't make that pledge because i don't have that no it's a promise to pay it. And if you're doing it over a period of time, who cares? You're still keeping your word. It's when you give nothing and you say you're going to. God looks at that. Your word is your word. Your word is your bond. So if you've ever pledged anything and you have not followed through on it, I would either ask for forgiveness and make a commitment that next time you give your word that you will do it. But that's how Tom and I are right

now. So every month we give our tithes, we give an offering, and then we pay towards the pledge that we've committed ourselves to. And I can tell you that it has come back in spades for Tom and I because God has been faithful. The man is driving around a brand-new $40,000 truck that he did not pay for at all. It was gifted to him. And so you sit there and go, why doesn't that happen to me? Well, I would say, what are you doing with your money? How do you do your money? And so if you trust the Lord

with everything, then it will happen to you. Like things have happened to us financially that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Outside of the fact that we give a tithe and offering. And I would say that people are like, well, I gave, but nothing happened. Do it for three months and see what God does. A lot of times it happens in far less than three months. But I would say over the long haul, the longer you do it, it comes back in spades. Not because you're looking for it, but you can look for it because it's a promise and his word is true.

So you can make him stand on his commitment that he's made to you, his covenant. So, and then on top of that, like God has told us, so we do all of that. And then God tells us to give to other ministries on top of all of that. And then he tells us to give, like we've gone to different conferences and the Lord has said, you're going to pay for their whole entire vacation. So I whip out our checkbook and I write a nice size check. I'm just telling you. But then what's crazy is somebody offers Tom and I, which we haven't gone on, but somebody offered us

such an amazing vacation for nothing. We're going to send you off to this place, and I haven't taken him up on it, and it's way more than what I stroke the check for. I'm just telling you, God never fails. Trust him with your finances. And it's not because he'll do things for you that you do it, but he will. But it's because you're saying to him, I'm not controlling my money.

You're controlling my money. And if you think about it, you get 90 and he only wants 10. That's crazy. But then I would say, trust him with the 90, then give him an offering and see what he does. Because then you're really saying to him, like, I'm going to give even more because I know and trust you even more than what you expect from me. It'll pay off. The Bible expects us to be good stewards of our money. Let's look at Luke 16, 9 through 11, and I am one minute over, but we're going to keep going. It says, and I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into an everlasting home. He is faithful in what is least, is faithful also in much.

And he who is unjust in what is least, is unjust also in much. Therefore, if you have not been faithful in the unrighteous manmen, which manmen stands for money, who will commit to you trust the true riches? So basically what that says is, if you're faithful with a little bit of money, then he will trust you with more. If you're not faithful with a little, then he's not going to give you more. So learn to use your funds wisely so that he can trust you with even more. It's one of the things like with the church.

I think one of the reasons why God allowed us to be, allowed us to have the funds to buy this building. One of the reasons why is because we had been faithful for like 15, 20 years. Not 20. It wasn't 20 when we got it. But we'd been 15 plus years. We had been faithful with the money that God had given us. We didn't spend frivolously. Um, and we were wise with the finances that had been given to us. So he knew I can give them a lot and they're not going to just

go hog wild. We would use the funds that were given to us in a wise manner and for the purpose in which they were being given to us. And God looks at all that. So you need to be wise with your money. Proverbs 3, 6, 9 through 10 says, in all your ways, submit to him and he will make your path straight. Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the first fruits of all your crop, which is first fruits is 10%. Then your barns will be filled to overflowing and your vats will brim over with new wine. That's your promise. It's in Malachi.

It's all throughout Scripture about your finances. And if you're faithful with them and you do what the word tells you to do with them, what his promise in return will be, which is honor the Lord with your wealth and the first fruits of your crops. Then your barns will be filled to overflowing and your vats will brim over with new wine. How many of us don't want to live in the Biden economy?

I do not. I want to live in God's economy where my barns are overflowing and my vats are overflowing with new wine. So, yeah, my next one. Does anybody have anything to say about paying tithe and being a good steward? It works. It works.

It works. And that comes from a newbie. Yeah. Yeah. And you're not a newbie, Sarah. Well, you haven't been saved. I've been on and off the tithe train my life. Yeah, but that's because you've gone on and off being saved.

But I'm just saying, when you were saved, you paid tithe. Correct. It works. It does work. There's nothing like it. God also loves a cheerful giver. I'm going to touch on that. Oh, you're welcome.

Yes. Yes. We're to be joyful when we give. Absolutely. But yes, don't give it begrudgingly. Just keep it then. Because you're not going to get anything in return. Do you guys have anything to add?

No, it's good. Okay. So we're going to keep going. If you're married, it's not two accounts. It's one account and you both share it. That's trust. That is trust. If you don't do that, then spiritually speaking, you need to fix that.

It's not good. I mean, let's think about Jesus. Does Jesus keep anything separate from us? Nope. Is his account separate from us? No. No. His account, he shared it with us. He has made us one with him and whatever he has, we have. He shared. We are now righteous. We actually earned everything that we have through what he did on the cross. He paid the ultimate price and then he says,

I'm going to share and give it all to you. Whatever I got, you got. How can you be married? How can you be married? And if Jesus doesn't do it, you justify you doing it in your own marriage. Does that make sense, ladies? Yeah. And most people never look at it like that.

They think of, well, he's not wise with money. Or if I don't do it this way, this is what will happen. Or we split the bills. We share the bills, but we split them. And you justify it all the way you want to. But that's not what Jesus did. And we are the bride. And if he doesn't do it in his marital relations with us

then how can we justify doing it in our carnal fleshly marital relationship it does not work yeah does anybody have anything to say i mean i think they do it for a safety reason in case something happens but it's control right it goes right back to being in control, which we're to trust him. And we are not in control. Why would you marry somebody that you can't even trust your finances with? Right. Have you lost your ever-loving mind? I know.

I know. You don't marry somebody you can't trust where they spend the money. You just don't marry somebody you can't trust where they spend the money. You just don't. It's like people who either go to a church and they don't give or go to a church and they don't give to the church because they don't trust how they spend the money. Don't go to that church. And I mean, even if it's here,

if you don't trust us how we spend our money, bye, Felicia. We don't need you because there's a trust issue. There's a trust issue. So if you don't trust, you shouldn't be in that relationship. You should find a church that you have a relationship with that you trust them. Our church might have to be out. We are so transparent with our money

yeah like we are very transparent and um when when i mean i've had people question us i've had to sit down and question us and when i'm done they're like uh that's better than i could have even expected because we do nothing with one eye, seeing it, nothing. I mean, everything is on the up and up from the beginning to the end. And it's very thorough, very thorough. But if you don't trust, then don't get in communion or covenant with somebody.

That's very, very dangerous. And there's a lot of marriages that have separate accounts. You really need to take a gander on that. Even if you're married to somebody who's not saved, what the heck? What the heck? Some people make big stands on debt, and I do not. Kenneth Hagin said,

if God was so against debt, then why did he tell people we should, we could loan to people? And I'm like, the word is true. The word is true. He said, the Bible tells us to loan, we can loan to people. It says that we shouldn't be in debt, but even still all of us own a house. Yeah. Yeah. So I know people that are big, like, you should never be in debt. I'm like, well, when you first bought that house, were you in debt? Did you buy it for cash?

Probably not. So I'm like, don't be a hypocrite. Do I think that people should be living above their means? No. But do I think? I talk to people all the time that are big Dave Ramsey people. And listen, I love Dave Ramsey. Oh, wow.

I do. Okay. But I don't subscribe to everything he says. Yeah. Like he makes you write down every penny you spend. Yeah, I know. He has you on a budget. And you know what a budget is? A budget is a box. And a budget tells you know what a budget is a budget is a box and a budget

tells you that this is all i'm gonna get this is all that god can do for me yep yeah true that and you want to live in that you want to live in that budget and you want to live in that box so be it but you're setting boundaries and confining yourself to the things that the word doesn't say. Like for me, don't live above your means, but don't live within the confines of something that the word of God doesn't say either, because God wants to give you more than your budget. And as long as you live within that budget, you'll live in a cage. When God is like, I got a cattle on a thousand hills. You're paying your tithes. You're giving your offering. I will give you more than enough, but don't be stupid either. There's a balance to everything. People, I was just telling Logan, people are full of one-ups. They always

have to have the latest phone. They always have to have the, like they change out their car every two years or whatever. They have to have a boat. Then they have to have an RV. They have to have gadgets. They have to have the clothes, the latest name brands. All of that will put you in debt. Quicker than your head can spend. But a budget isn't the answer. The budget is rein yourself in on your spending,

but don't put yourself in a cage. There is a balance, a spiritual balance to every single thing. I lived in a home where my parents were not in debt. They paid cash for everything. And my mom budgeted. But I would say we also lived very, God, we never didn't have anything we needed. But do I think that that budget was healthy? No, I don't. I don't think that budget was healthy. Do I think that we could have had more? Yeah. If there wasn't envelopes with, okay, this month's bills are going to be here. So we put all the bills and everything in an envelope. This is the, my allowance for the week. This is the groceries for the month. La la la la la la la. Right. Okay. Now you've just made sure that you're what all you're going to get is your allowance. And God's

like, I can do better than that. Does that make sense? Ladies? Sure does. Don't get in credit card debt. Yeah. Okay. If you're in credit card debt, if you can't pay that credit card debt off, like with money that you have somewhere else, don't do it. If you don't have the means to pay off the debt, then don't do it. Now there will be people that would say, you don't understand.

Like we're barely making our bills. I would say to you, what are you spiritually doing about that? Again, are you paying tithes? Are you giving an offering? And then if you're still saying, we're still tight, I would say, well, everybody's lived that way to a certain extent. He said he'll provide your needs. But then I would also say, what are you doing about that spiritually?

He has promises that he'll provide to you. But where are you at in the midst and the mix of things? Are you full of worry? Are you full of fear while all this is going on? Is your carnal nature getting the best of you? Do you pray? Do you read? How are you attacking that financial need? Because there's not just giving that plays a part in it, but there's also your spiritual outlook on it. And how you look at things spiritually will be how you get to the next level. Because you can hold yourself back by how you spiritually speak. Life and death is held in the tongue.

If you say, we can't afford that, guess what? You'll never be able to do. You'll never be able to afford it. Everything we say is truly important and it holds a value. It can be of good value or it can be of bad. And so mind your words. But again, that is a spiritual proponent to go along with tithing. So everything that we do, if you give, you'll still receive. But based on how you handle things spiritually speaking and the way that you have the revelation knowledge of those things will determine how quickly you get out of them or how quickly things move on past them. Like there have been times for me and Tom that things have been very tight,

but we tried to be very careful about how we minded our words. We didn't try and go on a budget to confine us to a certain means to an end. And then we spiritually tried to attack it so that as we were walking through it, it felt like a little bump in the road, rather a valley that we were having to go through.

Does that make sense? Because how you handle things spiritually will determine how big of a deal they are for you. If you tackle them spiritually speaking, then they won't be how big of a deal they are for you. If you tackle them spiritually speaking, then they won't be that big of a deal. But a lot of times we don't do anything with a spiritual mindset. And so when we have to go through it, it's like catastrophic. It's such a big deal. When God is like saying, this is not a big deal. I've got the whole thing taken care of. You're blowing this out of proportion. And it's all because you don't talk to me. You don't pray.

You don't get in my word to see my promises. And you don't fellowship with others who will build you up on your most holy faith in iron sharpening iron. If you would just praise me and worship me uh you would see that this is a piece of cake but a lot of time that's not what we do so ladies yeah you have anything you want to add because we're 15 minutes out i mean all of us have faced it yeah having to go through financial situations like even right now with some of the stuff that we're going through with the building and stuff like that, there is some financial, I'm heavily aware of our finances. Okay.

Yeah. But I am not worried. I am not concerned. And I know that God will see us through. There is not, I will not allow myself to go to a place where I am anxious about anything. A man will be in perfect peace whose mind is stayed upon thee, because he trusteth in thee, is what it says in Isaiah.

So if your mind is on him, how can you worry about a thing? It's because if your mind stays on him, it says you trust in him. If you get out of that, though, fear, anxiety, and worry will take over. Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead. I think the only thing I was just going to say is like, Jared and I have a lot of accounts because we have two businesses and multiple businesses. And so, but we have access, everybody has access to everything. So I think some people are like, well, we have multiple business, I mean, multiple accounts and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Just everybody should have access to everything, you know, in a marriage. So. Absolutely. Yeah.

Everybody should have access to everything. Again, if you married somebody you cannot trust with finances, that's on you. That's a big mistake that you made, but you still, just because that's the case, you got to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. Figure it out. You got to figure it out because that's not right. And some people,

I'm going to say to you what I said to Logan, you're going to listen to what we have to say, but you're going to do what you want to do. And we know that. Yeah. But it can be good or it can be bad. It's up to you which one you want to choose. Logan, what were you going to say? Nothing. I appreciate you hitting on the new stuff, always wanting to buy things because I think that's what kind of world we live in.

Oh, yeah. You're always scrolling and there's something popping up that you have to have. There's some influencer telling you what a difference it made in your life and it it truly doesn't yeah no things are never things are not it yes will never make you i mean for a moment right yeah moment for a moment that endorphin high or whatever they call that thing you're like oh but after that you hang it in the closet, you're like, oh. But after that, you hang it in the closet, and you're like, oh, wait a minute, I forgot about that. Your new shoes, you can't wear them every day because you have 100 other new shoes. You can only wear one pair at a time.

There's only so many days in the year. So it's like perspective on things. And here's the thing. I really feel like people think that if they look a certain way, if they have certain things, that people's perception of them or respect level for them, whatever, it will rise. Because, oh my gosh, look, she's got a Louis purse, or she must have money. Or look at that car that they just came in, and I bet you their house is huge. I know lots of people who drive a really nice car, and the house is a piece of crap. Because that's what they care about.

They care about what people think about when they pull up in somebody's driveway. As soon as you open your mouth and show yourself a fool, everything that you own, the attire that you're wearing, the car that you drove up in, everything that you think matters to people, as soon as you start speaking and you sound like a fool, gone out the window

yep it's true people know it really doesn't matter what you have it matters who you are yeah amen so my grandmother used to say as long as you have clean clothes they're ironed they may not be the newest and they may not they may be homemade but are they clean and do you look presentable and as long as you have those two things that's all that matters is your hair combed do you care about how your you you know your outer appearance you don't have to have the newest thing if you take care of yourself and your belongings you could have very few things and people will people will have a higher respect and a better perception of you than somebody who's full of a lot of materialistic things or think that they've got

it going on right they don't right trust me i've met plenty they don't i have a lot of i i've known people with the greatest of things and i have the least amount of respect for them. Yeah. This goes back to the podcast that you did. Why do you do what you do? Yeah. Why do you buy what you buy? Why do you invest in what you invest in?

Is it to look a way that you want to look or is it like, yeah, that's good. Because you know what? A lot of people think, a lot of people think that they, way they think others think the same way too true so they think that this is what people are going to think about me it's just like what logan was saying about people with their their kids now she's noticing now that she's a parent and all these people are putting this stuff out about their kids you're like you just want to roll your eyes but it's no different than these people who put out these it's again goes back to Jeff Tomas's uh like why are people mailing me their Christmas cards it's oh people have people will send out these pictures or on social media they've always

got like the whole family photo like they every year they got to do the family photo and they have to like put it out there and they have to look perfect. And then they think everybody's looking at them going, man, I want what they have. Okay, most people don't want what you have because most people know what goes internally on at home. And that's just a facade.

That's a picture you've painted. And everybody else is going, rolling their eyes and going, I really don't want to see this. This means nothing to me. Except you've painted a picture for yourself that you're trying to portray. And you think that everybody else has the same perception as you do. They don't. They all know you're full of crap. And a lot of times times even if you're not full of crap for me i'm just like why do you think i want to see you and your husband or boyfriend like that taking a picture where you're holding hands with each other with your foot up you can't see me with your foot up and you're like posing i'm like what makes you think i i care i want to see that? I don't. Most people

don't. And even the people that are hurting it, they don't. They just want to be nice. Why are you guys laughing? Are you, am I, am I hitting a nerve? No. So funny. Did I just bust on one of you guys over there? No, I, no, I'm not gonna. Am I busting on somebody you know? Yes. It's true. I don't know who I'm busting on that you know, but like seriously, like nobody cares. It's always, and it's always, it's always the ones that are picture taking that have the worst relationships. Just know this. All of us think, for the most part,

all of us think when you're sending pictures of you and your significant other, whether it be married or whatever, and you're posing like that, and you're like seriously. I love the ones where you have a boyfriend and a girlfriend or a husband and a wife that just take general pictures of each other. And it can be funny or it can be goofy. Because you know they're real. It's the ones that have to pose and act like they are so romantically in each other's eyes or whatever. And you're just like, your relationship must suck.

I don't know. Is that Jarrett and Tracy? Just kidding. I don't know who Is that Jarrett and Tracy? Just kidding. I don't know who that is. It's Chris and I. There we go. The leg kick. Their marriage is in trouble.

That was the baby announcement. That's dang funny. Leg kick and everything. But everybody does that. Do you know what I'm saying? It's so funny. Sorry, Logan. No, it's it's okay we are happy you should want what you have yeah well you're announcing the birth that you're pregnant most people are doing that just no you know you know the difference between the ones that it's that do it you know i mean it's

not a special announcement it's not a special thing it's just them it's for mean, it's not a special announcement. It's not a special thing. It's just them. It's for the likes. But again, they don't realize. People are just doing it to be friendly. Not because they really like it. I know. I know. Sarah, I would love to... What's rolling around in that little brain of yours?

Am I afraid to find out? No. We did Christmas cards this past year, but I had an alternate motive. I didn't get one. Yes, you did. No, I did not. Well, then you didn't open the gift that I gave you because it was in the gift. I did open the gift.

Are you sure? Because I didn't get one. Well, I might have extras because I had alternate motives. We used it as a write-off because we sent them to all of our customers. Oh, wait a minute. I did get that because now I remember what I got in my gift. I did get that. That was a cute little family photo, though.

Yeah. Yeah, we don't do it as a write-off. Yeah, but you're not real serious. That's true. And I really don't care about impressing anyone and it's not vomatosis aleosis yeah yeah i really do you are you guys looking at me like oh okay i just it's not bad for me it's like it's all the i can just think of the different people in my head right now that always want to look perfect like everything's just yeah and it's just like you're

not it's a persona and i'm not jealous of the ones that are perfect but there ain't anybody out there so quit trying to be you're not and that's okay and there's something beautiful and special about that because nobody is. So if everybody could just be real, it would be a beautiful thing. Amen. All right. I'm 26 minutes in in overtime. Poor Logan.

I know. My boobs hurt. What? Oh, Logan's in pain. Poor Logan. She's engorged. Yep, she is. Listen, all the release is going to be sweet.

The latch on is... How many of us pretended to cry? Don't do it. Don't do it. She can probably already feel her toes. So if you're a guy, tune out. But I just remember those moments. And your eyes just want to roll back into your head like, oh, sweet relief.

Yes. Yes. Oh, my gosh. If you Yes. Oh, my gosh. If you fed your children. You know. You know. You're like, bingo. All right.

I'm going to get you all saved on Friday. I'm 26 minutes in. If you need Jesus, you can do that personally yourself. See, Tracy and I are going to make this video for just moments like this. We do. And I have failed to do so. This is not her fault. Thank God.

This is my fault. For moments just like this. So we can win you to the Lord. Because listen, I pray over that every day. I pray over this podcast every day. I pray over everybody who watches this podcast every day. And I pray for the souls and salvations and the discipleship that's provided or what might need to be provided

to everyone who watches this podcast whether live or hashtag replay so just know you got a prayer covering over you but tune in on Friday if you need Jesus and I will take care of that for you

in the meantime see you Friday thanks for tuning in and I will take care of that for you. In the meantime, see you Friday. Thanks for tuning in, and we are 27 minutes in overtime. Thank you for staying on. Bye. Real talk.