The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E11 | 03-01-24
Episode Date: March 2, 2024The Hope Hotline | S02-E11 | 03-01-24...
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Real talk.
Real talk.
Real talk.
Real talk.
It's Friday.
One day.
Before the weekend.
You know, I feel like Friday night is actually like weekend is on.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't know what it is, but all my life, even in school, you get to Friday.
I feel like Friday doesn't even feel like a real work day to me.
When I actually, not that I don't work right now, I don't really ever have a day off
because I pretty much work every day, but I don't work right now, I don't really ever have a day off because I pretty much work every day.
But I don't even mind that.
But mentally, even today, even though I will be working tomorrow, I'm like, I think today I'm like, oh, it's the weekend.
Yeah.
Like right now I wake up and I'm like, oh, today's, I'm kind of off already in my head, even though I'm going to work.
You're not.
I mean, is that crazy?
Like, do you guys think the same way?
Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, but we're not. I mean, is that crazy? Like, do you guys think the same way? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, but we're not.
It's like Friday is like nothing.
Yeah.
You bring on Monday and you're like, ugh.
And I don't know why, because it's really no other different than any other day.
No, it's not.
We're programmed to think that way.
Yeah.
I think we're programmed to think that way.
Yeah.
Like Friday was payday, you know?
Oh, yeah, that's true.
That is true.
That's true. Yeah. That is true. That's true.
That is true.
Except for back in the day, I worked a job.
You got paid on the 1st and the 15th.
So whatever days those landed on.
Okay.
That's what you got paid on.
Killing the theory.
I didn't like that.
What'd you say?
I said killing the theory.
Yeah, I didn't like it.
Mentally, it screwed me up. It goes along with what you guys are just tried to figure it out. I didn't like it. Mentally, it screwed me up.
It goes along with what you guys are saying.
Yeah.
Mentally, I didn't like it.
Yeah.
Mm-mm.
Didn't work for me.
I don't like that either.
And then I've worked a job.
I've worked lots of jobs.
I worked a job.
You only got paid once a month.
No.
Yes.
No way.
I did.
I'd quit.
I hated that too.
You only have to budget.
Yeah.
That's very budget-y.
I've really never budgeted, which has landed me in hot water.
I was going to say.
And it's also caused me to rise above.
There you go.
It's all in how you.
It is.
All perspective.
It's all in the stability in which you look at your finances.
True.
Well, really, biblically.
If you're a good steward, then you're going to be okay.
Yep. If you're a hot mess, me.
I think everybody at one time or another learns.
I mean, some people are just like Heather has always financially.
I've known her since she was pretty much in high school. And I have known her to be financially secure as far as in her thought processes.
And some would say, well, that's because of, you know, being a younger mother and things like that.
Yeah, I would say opposite.
That's not true at all.
Yeah.
That's not true at all.
What's the excuse for people who don't have to like that, like have gone in? I lived on my own at 18. What's the excuse for people who don't have to, like, that, like, have gone out?
I lived on my own at 18.
What was my excuse?
Right.
I had none because I was an adult, too.
I still screwed up big time.
But, like, she's always been.
Some people are just, so when it comes to finances,
and she should not have been because she really wasn't trained.
She kind of, like, taught herself a lot about how to be an adult.
She didn't have like the easiest of upbringings.
People loved her, but I'm just saying she didn't have like that's something she taught herself.
So I'm just saying like nobody has an excuse.
Yeah.
No.
To be a hot mess.
Nope.
None.
Because some people just got it.
Yeah.
They just, they think, they process.
I know.
They do.
That was not me.
Me either.
I don't know.
Like were you guys really great with money?
No.
All your life?
No.
Sarah's no.
You're no.
Taya is just learning.
She's just smiling.
She's still in the process.
Just learning.
Like you have a nice little savings account though right now yeah yeah now that's the first time in your life
yeah because we busted your chops big time um but on on having no money but you've turned the you
turned the tide and you're not even 18 yet. Exactly.
So you've still got a lot of stuff to do.
But I'm just saying, even you like getting it at an early age.
So I don't know.
I don't know where we went with that.
I don't know.
Just that it's Friday.
Yeah, it's Friday.
It's Friday.
I'm super excited.
Yeah.
If you need to be saved, Friday's today.
Today's the day.
Today's the day.
Okay.
I told you on Wednesday, today's the day.
So if you put it off, it's a lucky you're alive because you would have went to hell
on Wednesday, Thursday, and any time before now if you didn't do it and you waited on
me.
That was your mistake.
And you waited on me.
That's your mistake.
Oh, my gosh.
So let's go through the go let's go through the
things yeah okay and then we'll hit the uh hit the the first topic that i want to address perfect
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So I got to start and just say hi to my mom.
She's in Mexico right now
and she's finally sending me pictures.
So, hey mom, I'm glad you're joining us from the beach.
It must be nice to live a life of a traveler. What is it called?
A nomad? Yeah, she is. She finds her home wherever she goes. I know. She's just, her and my dad are
just chilling on the beach in Mexico, living their best lives. And I love it. So we've got a bunch of
people. And did we figure out who our friend was? Was daniel did he say he didn't say okay we have one unknown person on rumble and logan's on she's joining us live she also said
that the military is first and 15th too for paydays so she gets that that's probably when i
work for the government that's probably yeah that's probably what i did not like that yeah
exactly i would not like that either um and then we've got Sean on and he said that the Twisted Fork was hopping last night with some Foundation Church people doing some line dancing.
What?
So we're missing out, people. We got to get back.
That's interesting.
Yeah. He said it was a good night.
That's interesting. The Twisted Fork apparently has got some good eats. Is that right?
Yeah, they do.
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
I heard the service isn't that great. No, it's not. It's not at all. Sorry, Twisted Fork apparently has got some good eats. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah, they do. Oh my gosh. Yes. I heard the service isn't that great.
No, it's not.
It's not at all.
Sorry, Twisted Fork.
Yeah, I know, guys.
I'm not going to be.
I mean, it's been a few months.
I'm not going to lie.
But I.
Okay.
Sarah said it's iffy on the food.
Okay.
So maybe it's what you pick.
But some people absolutely love the food.
Yeah.
Everything I have is good.
But I've heard the service, no bueno.
Yeah.
That as well.
So maybe you just go on the night you're going to dance and you really don't care when
you get served.
Maybe eat before you go.
And then just pick.
Eat before you go.
And have a little sneaky snack there.
It's like the bowling alley.
Yeah.
You better have something to do while you're waiting because that service always stinks
at the bowling alley.
But like you don't expect to eat anything really good at the bowling alley, let's face
it.
Right.
It's almost like gas station food, except for Wawa.
Yeah, Wawa's good.
And Super Day.
Oh, Super Day.
Super Day kills it.
Super Day, like, that shouldn't even be a gas station.
Super Day should be a restaurant with a gas station, like, on the side.
Not gas station food.
Get Guy Fieri on the line.
What is that?
Diners, drive-ins, and dives.
100%.
He needs to go to Super Day.
He does.
He'll be going like,
that spike blonde hair would be like
going crazy if he went into Super Day.
Oh my gosh.
He'd love it.
They got,
Super Day,
nobody's got nothing on Super Day.
No.
Like even like,
Cheesecake Factory.
Come on.
Come on.
I've had Junior's Cheesecake from Brooklyn.
Like their original bakery.
Super Day is better.
I'm just Super Day.
Like if you don't know Super Day,
some of you are going,
where the heck is Super Day?
I'm about to like open your,
blow your mind.
I'm going to, like, blow your mind.
I was about to say something else.
Listen, Super Day.
Super Day.
It's in East Inglewood.
It's right there on 776, and what is it?
They call it 772, but it's also Gasparilla Road.
771.
So 776,
I would say Gasparilla Road, which
will take you to
Boca Grande, but a lot
of people say 771. I thought it was
772, but I'm glad you corrected me. 771.
So right
there on the corner, there's a Publix,
and it's directly across the street.
It was blown away by the hurricane, but they got their signs back up.
They didn't need a sign.
Everybody knows.
I'm just saying, go in there, get some good eats.
Super Day owes me big time right now.
Yeah, I was going to say.
Send us a cheesecake.
So good.
I drove past there yesterday.
It was everything I could do not to go in there.
Get me some cheesecake.
All right, go ahead.
Okay.
Enough said.
All right.
So we've got Sarah on and Daniel's joining us live.
I just saw you in the parking lot.
So, hey, Barb is on and Sean said that there is a lady that goes to
Twisted Fork that looks like Hope and she was there again. And Logan said that the reason that
the service is no good because we don't spend money on alcohol. So I mean, there's that. But
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That's good.
Now look at how beautiful Vanessa looks.
I know.
Look at that girl.
Look it up.
Mahatsi Tatsi.
Girl is looking better than normal.
Showered today.
Just a shocker. How could she look better than normal? took a shower today Showered
How could she look better than normal
But today she does
I've got a hot date after this
Okay so
Is it your wedding anniversary
Or dating anniversary
So both
We got married on our one year dating anniversary
So March 1st
Are you kidding me?
I know.
It just so happened to land that way.
I have never heard of that before in my life.
So 16 married, 17 together.
That's super cute.
You got married within a year?
I was engaged.
Did she tell me this already?
I don't know.
I don't know if you knew.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, you told us the story about how you met.
Did you not tell us you got married within the year then?
Within a year.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's right.
I think that's right because you said you knew he was the one God told you.
Okay.
We were engaged within like three months.
Yeah.
I know.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
Took me three years to say I love you. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. When the Holy Spirit.
Took me three years to say I love you.
Oh my gosh.
Almost three years.
Holy moly.
Oh yeah.
Well, that's not because I, listen, I knew like within six months that I loved him, but I wasn't saying it.
Right.
Right.
I ain't saying it.
That's a big deal.
Apparently not. You're saying
yeah. Apparently not. Three months
engaged. I know.
Well, he was older.
Jeff is ten years older than me.
He was older. He doesn't look at that.
He was praying for his wife already.
He knew.
So whenever the Holy Spirit gave me the green light, we're like, he knew. Yeah. He knew. And so whenever the Holy Spirit,
the Spirit gave me the green light,
we're like, let's do this.
Let's do this.
Well, here's the thing.
Like, he's afraid.
He's afraid.
He's like,
somebody might grab that chick.
Yeah, I gotta snatch her up.
It was a good catch.
You are a great catch.
But both of you do not look.
I mean, both of you.
He does not look.
He looks great. He ages like fine wine. I know. He of you. He does not look. He looks great.
He's ridiculous.
He's aging backwards.
Jeff looks fantastic.
He's turned into a teenager.
You've done good, girl.
I know.
I know.
On paper, though, he was a hot mess when I first met him.
We know this.
But.
To know him is to love him even still to this day.
He's not a hot mess, but.
No, but he's still a little rough.
He has no filter.
He's a little rough around the edges still.
He's more New York than you are.
And he isn't even from there.
Well, he is.
No, he wasn't born there.
Yeah, upstate New York.
Oh, upstate.
Okay.
Because he does not act it.
He does not talk like it.
But he hung out in the Boogie Down Bronx.
I mean, he does act it as far as he has no filter.
But as far as like, you know how there's some people from New York are kind of like they think they're the thing.
Jeff does not act like that.
Jeff just says whatever's on his mind.
But he doesn't think he's the thing.
He's a very humble person. Yeah. I think. I do too. I think he's the thing. He's a very humble person.
I think he's the thing.
Well, that's all that matters.
You're looking like you think he's the thing right now.
Somebody's got plans for the night.
Maybe.
It's probably not you.
It's probably him.
You just know that he has plans for the night.
It's all good.. It's probably him. You just know that he has plans for that night. It's all good.
The crock pot.
That's right, girl.
The crock pot is on.
Oh, my gosh.
He's counting it.
It's set for six hours.
Maybe four.
And when it's done, it's done.
That's great. That's all I, it's done. That's great.
That's all I'm going to say.
That's great.
Where you got?
Sarah's left the building.
Where's Sarah?
There's her head.
There she is.
I don't know.
What are you talking about?
You just came off your cruise.
You know about that crock pot.
There were some microwaved
dinners too.
Air fryer, whatever.
Microwave.
Lots of cooking.
On the cruise.
Are you not allowed to cook on the cruise?
No.
They do all the cooking for you, Sarah.
All of it.
All of it.
Look at her face.
I need another camera.
What?
I need another camera.
I need a camera over here so we can get their faces yeah yeah we do well yeah we do well your your parents are on vacation right now tracy
they are don't even want to think about that nope no thank you moving right along so what are we
talking about today how do you think all that was brought in oh wait a minute all
all that was brought into the world. Hope.
Yeah, she is.
Go Kim.
Go Kim.
Go Kim.
Oh my gosh.
I think we need to talk about short engagements again.
What? What?
What?
Short engagement.
There's good stuff in the hallway, girl.
Oh.
I know what's going on. Good stuff in the hallway, girl. Oh. I know what's going on.
Good stuff in the hallway.
Okay.
She's asking me
to get her nails done
and I'm like,
do you have a snack?
Sarah's daughter's
here for the podcast.
She's begging.
I thought she was
begging for some treats.
No, she's begging
for her nails to be done.
Okay.
Not that you care.
They do.
Not that it matters.
They love us.
Listen, I'm going to keep you apprised
of what's going on in the room right now.
So, hey, I really, really want to address this
for grandparents and parents.
Like, some parents already know this.
Some people don't
because they have very young children.
So, I sent...
Listen, I go to walmart to innocently buy my girl uh brinley like i don't
know why it probably was for no reason we had a we had a slumber party at my house like two weeks
ago me and brinley it was when norma had got her teeth her
wisdom teeth taken out was it that week it was that week so it was like just last week it was
wednesday i think so me and my girl me my girl um go to so it was an evening of going out to dinner
then getting up then we got up we went out to breakfast and then getting up. Then we got up, we went out to breakfast.
And then I told her, I said, now, she had plans at 11.30.
So before she had her plans that she had to do,
I was like, let's go and let's go shopping
and then you can go do your plans for the day.
So we go and I take her into Walmart
to just let her pick out a couple things.
Because she needs to have them all around her.
Because she knows that I love her when she's playing with them.
So I go there, and we are shopping down the aisles.
And lo and behold, put that picture up, Tracy.
This is what I see that doll and then
what do you got to say about that time i've watched that show that's a show it has nothing
to do with being gay or anything well no because tracy heather looked it up and it absolutely
does say that it does that show is about like a fashion school okay and i'm telling you there's
no characters that are gay well i don't care but she said she looked it up i was like is that homosexual
is that transgender look that up somebody look it up right now because heather did look i was like
what is up with this heather and she's like let me look it up and she said it absolutely says that it is now if i'm proven wrong then praise
you the lord but people need to know like there are other stuff out there are you still looking
yeah what's it saying guys and and and if tal you watch this and it is homosexual, then we got to go in her brain and renew it. My gosh.
Cause she's,
she's obviously whacked.
She's been indoctrinated.
So it's hard. Cause you like,
just obviously when you find Google,
I'm going to pull this up for a second.
Is that one?
I know.
So this one says Bella partner.
Like what?
Like,
is that this,
is that a rainbow?
I haven't seen her in the show.
So there might've been a new season that come down,
but now there's a new season. I said there might? I haven't seen her in the show. So there might have been a new season that come down. But now there's a new season.
I said there might.
I don't know.
I'm looking right now.
Okay.
Look at it.
So when it, like obviously on Google, who knows.
But it says the backstory of the franchise revolves around an elite high school for visual arts featuring students who represent colors of the rainbow.
But that's all that I'm finding right this second.
I know. I wish Heather was here. I didn't tell Heather I was doing this that I'm finding right this second I know I wish
Heather was here I didn't tell her she found it because Heather would have like
snap shotted which yeah found but like what coincidence it's the rainbow and
what does that mean it represents all the colors of the rainbow what does that mean? Right.
Yeah, I'm not finding. Is it subliminal like Disney?
I don't know.
But I'm just saying we as parents, even if that isn't, that bothers me.
I was so mad when I saw that.
What are you two laughing at?
She's texting me. I thought she found something i know no she
doesn't what's the name of the show rainbow high i've not seen anything have you watched that or
you know anything about it no no like literally the show has like nothing in it like now people
might take it that way but i've watched this like show like two times in a row like all
three seasons two times like off the top like when i first like i wrote rainbow high transgender
gay and nothing's like i mean there's reddit obviously that are saying like
change my mind or something but it's i can't find anything like
yeah i don't know. I know.
So we might have to come back to this one.
But I'm just saying, okay, so that's good.
I didn't know that was a show.
Yeah.
And there's nothing bad in it?
No.
Huh.
Interesting.
I don't know.
Parents, like, listen. I know. Be mindful and watch out. Yeah. The don't know. Parents, like, listen.
I know.
Be mindful and watch out what the kids are watching.
I didn't know that was a show, but even what they're playing with.
Because there's other ones, like, there's other dolls right now.
You can, like, I don't know if parents know this,
because, like, Logan's got small, a baby.
She doesn't know. But,'m just saying you wash their bodies
and then there's private parts
that show up on the bodies.
What are we thinking?
What are we thinking
with this stuff? We are literally
indoctrinating our kids. I know that
you know which one it is, but you might not
know it's those dolls.
Your kids have played with them. Not your kids
necessarily in general.
Like I know that Heather does have some of them,
but she's very picky about the ones that Brinley plays with.
Like there are certain ones she won't let her play with because they do do that.
Like you stick the doll in water and then certain things show up on the doll.
You know which one I'm talking about?
Yeah, it's LOL dolls.
LOL, yeah.
Like what the
heck?
I don't know.
Can't we just go back to Barbie
and Ken? But even there, look.
It's so bad, man.
People, hmm.
I don't like it.
We'll move to the first question, but I don't like that.
It bothered me.
It literally bothered me that, spiritually speaking,
what's happening to our kids?
There's a reason why they're doing all of this stuff.
We need to, part of the resistance and the restraining and to occupy is that we pray over our children, but we pray over these things that they don't infiltrate and they do not.
There's no people aren't capitalizing on this stuff.
You know what I'm saying?
That with this stuff gets stopped.
It doesn't just stop at the political level.
It stops at the Disney level. It stops at, I mean, in the libraries where they're having, you know, woke children's hour, like story times and stuff.
I mean, we really, when my kids, I didn't even have kids. And I would write or support different legislation that protected the kids' school systems,
keeping certain people out because of the things that they were wanting done.
Even if you don't have a child or if your children are grown, you're a grandparent,
or you're single and you have no intention of getting
married or whatever, we have a duty. We have a duty to protect these kids. We want them saved.
And if they can indoctrinate them into perversion, that's an easier way for these children not to be
saved. Because it says a reprobate mind is very difficult for someone. Once you get to a reprobate mind,
it's very difficult for you to bring them in and to save them.
And part of the reprobate mind before you is sexuality.
And homosexuality is a part of that.
Like it's very difficult once you get to that type of perversion
for you to turn the tide.
And it's scriptural.
So like we really need to be after this with our kids.
I mean, big time.
And that's, I think we just think, well, my kid's safe.
They grow up in my home.
Like if you don't pay attention to what they're playing with or where they're hanging out or what they're watching on their, on their phone or their device, um,
or maybe it'll be your grandchildren because everybody gets, uh, things get, um, more lenient,
more liberal as the, uh, generations go. So my thing is, let's just be really attacking this.
Even if that doll isn't what we think it is, there are plenty of other things out there that are.
And so we just need to be really diligent with our children and what's happening with them, and what their hearts are being opened to by.
And everything flows through the heart,
and we have got to protect and guard their hearts.
So enough said on that, but that bothered me so bad.
I was like, I'm going to hit that subject.
And, you know, I told, I'm seriously thinking about subject and you know I told I was seriously thinking about
this I'm seriously praying about this but I am seriously I we need we do need I was thinking I
was telling um you guys a couple weeks ago we do need um certain I would love to have a great
parenting hub but you have to have people who have been extremely successful who all their kids are saved
and um not ones that still have kids that are that are like you need them their kids to be adults
right and all of them you have to have that person have had to have a great track record or the kids are now saved.
Like I can't have just anybody do that.
And if you don't have somebody who has a great success rate, then people will go, well, you're
a kid and they'll totally eliminate everything you say.
So even if they are qualified, they'll be disqualified because they don't have all their kids ducks in a row.
So, but I was thinking, man, I'm thinking maybe I should just write a book or something like that.
Biblically speaking and not, and I just don't even, I'm like, I don't even know where to go,
but people are lost because there's a lot of people who did not have good parents, and so they don't even know how to parent.
And James Dobson's book helped me with disciplining,
but it didn't teach me how to be a good parent.
And the Bible has got a great breakdown on it,
but some people just don't even know where to find it.
So I might just do that.
I just don't know.
I don't even know where to begin, though.
I don't even know how you write a book. If I'm supposed to do it, God will help me. You just do that. I just don't know. I don't even know where to begin, though. I don't even know how you write a book.
If I'm supposed to do it, God help me.
You just do it.
Just do it?
You just start writing it.
Ask Sarah.
Sarah, how do you do it?
Do it.
Sarah, have you written a book?
No, but I'm supposed to be.
Thanks for reminding me.
That helps me in no way.
But you just start writing.
You just start writing.
Oh, I would never.
Figure out how to put it together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought to myself, maybe you just figure out the topics you want to hit.
Okay.
And then you start writing the topics.
Yeah.
But like, how do you know that?
Like, that thing might last forever and I don't want one.
I want like a little teeny tiny, not pamphlet, but mini book.
Yeah.
Like a mini book.
Cause I would like,
I don't have time to write,
read books anymore.
That's a good idea.
Start with the topics and then like go from there.
Go from there.
Yeah.
Like the different chapters.
Yeah.
That you would hit.
Yeah.
Now this really makes you feel like we're in your living room.
Having a,
having a conversation.
Brainst brainstorming.
Welcome to our life.
Yeah.
And I'm taking up time to answer questions.
I know.
I was like, that's that's a problem.
Acting is a tough thing for people.
It is.
And we have so many people in our church that are like newly saved.
Like, how did where does it begin?
And it's hard because some people are so dogmatic
about like everything that they think and then there's some people that are like totally hands
off like i don't even know where to start so it's like such extremes like super super strict and
then like i've i don't know where to even start i've seen i've seen the super super strict i've
seen it and it comes back to bite them in the butt. Yeah, I agree. Because
there's hypocrisy. I agree. Oftentimes, the super, super strict don't follow the very rules that they
have set for everybody else in the family. Right. And it comes back. There's a balance to everything.
I agree. You're going to be super, super strict. make sure you're doing it too. Correct. Not rules for thee and not for me.
Right.
Or like something close enough.
Like they'll say like, you know, no candy, but then they're drinking soda.
You know what I mean?
Like there's always something where it's like, okay, well, I totally agree.
The super strict thing.
Oh, I know.
Oh my gosh.
Like no sugar, but then they're sneaking off eating a candy bar.
Right, right.
I get it.
And you don't think the kid's going to find out later on in life? Yeah. 100%. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Like no sugar. But then they're sneaking off eating candy. Right, right. Yeah, I get it. Right. And you don't think the kid's going to find out later on in life?
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah, they are.
Yeah.
Or everything's got to be organic.
Right.
And then you got to like.
Keep up with that.
Yeah, good luck.
And then you find out nothing's really organic because it's all a lie.
There you go.
Yeah, I know.
Okay.
It's true.
I know.
People don't understand like it's not really organic that you're eating. Yeah. I know. Okay. It's true. I know. People don't understand. Like it's not really organic that you're eating.
I think I found that out.
We found out a little system,
right?
From Deb.
About nine is fine.
What is what?
There's a little trick when you go to the grocery store.
If it begins,
like you gotta,
you gotta get really close.
Then it's organic and non GMO.
So nine is best.
Four is okay.
And then three is like bad.
Everything I eat is a three.
No.
I can pretty much promise you that.
No, like the vegetables.
They're like, what are they called?
What is Bill Gates trying to do with the stuff?
Like bioengineered.
So like three is like bioengineered.
So stay away from threes. But like nine is fine. so like three's like bioengineered so stay away from threes
but um like nine is fine but like pomegranates it's really hard to find a nine pomegranate or
dragon fruit those are ones that are like pretty difficult little yeah they're kind of like have
helped to be made so yeah anyways but i love pomegranate. Me too. But it's too difficult.
Just give me the juice.
I've already tried.
Me and Tommy have tried to suck one seed at a time.
Yeah, there's like a way to like peel it and all kind of, yeah.
But I.
Watering.
I know, they're so good.
I know, I love them.
Talking about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's too difficult.
It is.
It's like, for me me it's like Maryland crabs
blue crab people are like it's so
like you gotta eat a lot
of crab to get full and I'm like
it's worth every single crack open
of that shell and other people are like
not me it's too much work for
a little bit of meat and I'm like
what I'm used to but a pomegranate
too much work
not a lot of meat.
I don't have the time.
Just give me some juice.
They have like seeds now.
Like actually you can like buy them in the little containers
and they're just their seeds.
Already done for you.
Yeah, but the seeds, you like have to eat so many seeds
to like really, too hard. Way too way too hard okay i'll just take the
juice all right let's let's take a question okay let's go i have a question about dealing with
extended family when you go to the same church and listen to the same preaching the pastor preaches
and they don't live by biblical principles and do exactly opposite of what the pastor preaches
how do you separate yourself from this type of relationship? I've asked the Holy Spirit how to handle it,
and he repeatedly tells me to just pray for them, even though I see them losing friendships and
respect from church family. I know their hearts, and they don't mean harm, but it's just not biblical.
That's a fun one. Yeah. nothing like going to church with family
especially difficult family yeah
um
i said i'm gonna say like family situations can be super tough and I got to be very careful how I answer this question because if I cause a family riff, that would not be good.
So I'm going to be very, I'm going to tell you how to handle it biblically.
I'm not going to give you any of my opinion for the most part and if I give you my opinion I'm going to say this is
what I would do I'm not suggesting you do it but if you do do it it's your own liability not mine
does that make sense because I'm like a I'm a toughie to a certain extent. Like how we handle things in the likely home, most do not handle that way.
Do I think that they should?
Yeah, I do think that they should.
But that might be because I think that I'm right all the time.
That's true.
I do for the most part.
I do think I'm right most of the time until proven otherwise.
And then I have no problem well that's
not true I do have a problem but I still will do it I will still apologize do I like it no
do I want to do it heck to the no but I will do it so and if you're not willing to apologize and
you're not willing to admit you're wrong,
then don't go this route because it's only for the strong.
But listen, when you go to a church and you go to the same church,
what happens is there tends to be a lot of gossip.
It makes it super easy for gossip to happen. It can be gossip
about the leadership. It can be gossip about other friends or other people who attend the church.
And it's very dangerous for if you have kids and your kids are present and maybe they have kids too and the older the
kids get, the worse that it is because kids that are teenagers are already fighting tooth and nail
to try and figure out if they believe, why they believe, what they believe. And so all you're
doing is opening a door to justify potential sin in their lives because innately they want to go
off and experience the world. And when you gossip or when they gossip, all you're doing is justifying
them to walk away from the church. And that helps them. So, and then if they're younger, what happens is kids remember things.
And sometimes they repeat them.
Sometimes they'll now treat somebody
that you've gossiped about
or they've gossiped about differently.
And then they grow up and they will remember it.
And then that will help them to walk away from the church.
All of it is, so if they are gossiping with you, then you have a duty.
And the Bible is very clear to shut it down and tell them to go and talk to the person that they're gossiping about.
If they have an issue and if they don't have an issue, but they just want to gossip.
That's even worse.
I have seen more people leave churches over gossip than anything else.
Gossip is a killer and it's a cancer.
And you know, it's so funny because when I see a group of friends leave the church at the same time,
I always know they were gossiping.
And what's so funny to me is they will leave the
church over what they feel is justifiable. And it may not even involve sin. It may just involve
that they're bothered by something or they're offended by something. And yet they leave the
church, think that they're justified in leaving. But really really in all actuality, as they walk out the
door and they take their friend or friends with them, they've sinned. They've sinned. So they're
offended and have sinned, and they'll be held accountable for that sin. But they feel like
it's all right. And I just sit there and go, you're offended by either someone or the leadership of
the church, yet you're the one sinning, and the leadership of the church
or the person that you're offended by has not sinned.
Does that make sense, ladies?
Yep.
And it makes me want to laugh the whole entire time
because I'm like, if you don't think that's going to come calling,
you are sorely, sorely mistaken.
It will come calling.
And people think, well, I have the right to be.
And I'm thinking, if you're gossiping
you won't I've seen it so many times where people have left in groups not a church split we've never
had a church split we've left had people like maybe two couples or three couples I think the
highest has been like four couples all leave at the same time they all repeat the same genre and
and expect no one to know that they've been gossiping but they all at the same time. They all repeat the same genre and expect no one to know that they've been gossiping,
but they all have the same thing that bothers them.
And you know that they've been talking.
They've been gossiping.
So I literally wanna say, well, yours is sin.
Where has the church or the person that you're mad about
sinned?
They have it, but you're sinning.
And then
all of them leave together and they're the best friends. They're all the united front. And then
like two, six months down the road, they have no relationship with each other. You know why?
Fruit of the poisonous tree. Fruit of the poisonous tree. You want to lose your friends?
You want to lose your family? You want to lose your family?
Gossip with them. Gossip with them. You will find out that it will turn on you. And it always does.
I haven't seen it once not happen where people who have left together have stayed together.
They've never stayed together. They've always dispersed, eventually been offended with one another or just the relationship fizzles.
Because what was binding you together was a solid relationship and a friendship
at the very beginning when you were in the church and it was pure and it was holy.
And then sin seeped in and then it made you what you loved and you appreciated. You now find a commonality of gossip and critiquing and criticisms and just unhappiness or offense.
And then that very thing that was so pure, sin seeps in, destroys the relationship you have with the church,
and then it will eventually destroy the relationship you have with the people that you're gossiping with. It never lasts. And families are like a
family unit needs to stick together. So don't allow gossip to infiltrate your family, but hopefully
if you stop the gossip between the two families, then you'll be able to stay together.
It's very, very dangerous.
Biblically speaking, your job is to tell them to go and speak to the one they're offended or have the issue with.
And the other thing is, is don't talk with them about it.
It'll eventually make you be whatever their problem is.
You'll start thinking the same thing or you'll find other fault with
other people. It's not good. It is not good. And I have done that with my family, just so you know,
not maybe over a church, but when there's been gossip or there's been things that have been
wrongly said, I have done it. It's not fun. It's not easy. It's not pleasant.
But it has to be done.
It has to be done, especially if you want to keep that relationship pure and strong
and let nothing come in between it.
But it will cause awkward moments.
The air in the room will be sucked out.
Everybody will want to go.
But it is what it is. You got to do what is right.
Speak the truth in love, but I was just saying this to my mom. You can try and, I think I said
this to my mom yesterday. It might've been somebody else. No matter how, yeah, it was my mom. No matter
how much you say the words in a loving manner, truth oftentimes offends so much
that it's irrelevant that it was said in love. It's now an offense. And you can say it as nicely
as you possibly can. And people will, everybody's so concerned about tone all the time, but it's
irrelevant about the tone if you tell somebody the truth, because the tone is now not even an issue. It's what was said that's the issue. So people always
say it was the tone. And then if the tone is correct, then it's something else, when really
the truth is, it's the truth that has taken the offense. Let's see. The last thing I'll say about this, which is so true,
oftentimes the reason why people are behaving and saying and doing things a lot of times
is because of pride. There's something that has caused them to be prideful in a certain area.
And that pride will destroy.
I mean, the word is clear.
Pride comes before destruction.
And so if they don't want to receive what you have to say,
then that's going to be pride.
If the offense or the gossip or whatever the issue is
with whomever in the church or the church itself,
a lot of times it's pride.
It's pride because
no one will listen to me. No one will validate me. No one will give me what I feel like I deserve.
All of that stems from pride. And so if you can speak the truth and they receive it,
and pride is removed, then you have a chance of having a very
good relationship. But the word is very clear about being humble for a reason. Most people are not
humble. Like I said, I don't like saying I'm sorry. There's a reason I don't like saying I'm sorry,
because I have to battle my pride in saying I was wrong. No one likes being wrong. They don't. Some people can overcome being wrong more easily
because they're more humble.
And I am not that person.
I'm not that person.
I am not the most humble of individuals.
I've had to learn to be humble
because I married a man that has said,
that's not acceptable, That's not biblical.
And you got to fix that. So I've had to fix it, but it's still not. But the thing is, is you can
fix it and you can go to somebody and you can apologize and you can do it biblically correct.
Doesn't mean you like it though. Doesn't mean you enjoy it. Doesn't mean you like it. It doesn't
mean that you've cornered the market on being humble,
which is something that I have to work on continuously.
Because I grew up in a home that that's just not,
you never said you were sorry.
You never said you were sorry.
Everybody just swept it under the rug and kept going.
That is a very dangerous thing.
That's why I'm grateful that I married the man that I married
because he does not allow it.
And when we sweep things under the rug and we don't address them,
it creates a pride issue.
It's not good.
So I'm 56 and I'm still working, but I will not let pride destroy me. So one of the things is, is I succumb to the leadership in my home,
being underneath the priest of my home.
I submit to that authority and I say, this is not acceptable.
But more importantly, the word says I'm not allowed to be like this.
So I fight my flesh and my carnality.
I do what I got to do do and every day it gets easier
but do i like it no i don't peanut gallery two cents do you agree do you have some people like
are you is it easy for you to to like that let down your pride and be humble and say you're sorry
with some people and some people know yeah yes that's me
yeah some people it's super easy yeah like tom all day long yeah say listen i was wrong i'm sorry
whatever and situational like if i feel like people understand like even if we don't agree
if you understand my perspective it's very easy for me to be like you know i'm sorry you didn't
see it that way or if they but i think it's if they're ready to pounce and they're like, oh, oh.
Yeah, that's hard.
She screwed up.
I like, you know, I'm like, that's hard for me.
That's why I like literally, so you're situational too?
No, yeah.
You're having to learn it too.
Did you grow up in a home where you said, I'm sorry?
Oh, yeah.
Everybody said I was sorry?
Yeah.
We didn't in my house.
Talia?
I mean,
it's not really an issue for me,
but.
You're very,
like,
you're very submissive though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
if you,
even if you,
like,
don't show me,
like,
proof that I'm wrong,
I still will be like,
if I feel that I am wrong,
I still will say I'm sorry.
Like,
yeah.
I don't know.
Never say you're sorry if you ain't wrong. No, yeah. Yeah sorry like yeah I don't know never say you're sorry if
you ain't wrong no yeah yeah because that's a lie always say you're sorry if you're like I literally
will not tell somebody I'm sorry if I know that I'm not because I don't want to lie about it
and listen I was on the verge of a breakup with Tom because he thought one thing and if I would
have said I was sorry then he would have been like
okay all is right but I told him I'm like I'm not telling you I'm sorry I know it'll make it right
and then everything will be fine but I'm not doing it because I'm not lying I'm not gonna lie for us
to be okay it's not happening I will never apologize just to get things passed by you know
some people will just do it so that it brings
peace to the home. And all you're doing is lying and enabling bad behavior. Or some people will do
it because like, if they don't, the ramifications of not saying I'm sorry, is like, you got a beast
on your hands. Have the beast, right? It's better to face the beast and deal with the nastiness of that individual
than to lie to them so that they keep getting their way keep getting their way and things like
not good you're lying and you'll be accountable for not being honest is Vanessa it's easy for
you to say you're sorry isn't it it is I will say I grew up in a home very similar to you where
everything was just thrown under the rug or swept under the rug.
Yeah.
And I just I knew moving forward I didn't want to live like that because I I knew what it felt like to live in that type of environment.
And I knew moving forward that I would change that for me for myself.
Yeah.
I didn't want to change it.
I liked it.
I was totally fine with that.
Just keep sweeping it under the rug.
I just never knew where I stood with with anybody yeah but i didn't care whether where i hated that oh really yeah i hated
it i was totally fine i don't know where i stood with anybody and so i knew moving forward that i
just i didn't want that to be my story so but you're a sensitive soul yeah true very true yeah i don't really care i'm fine with whatever
love me hate me leave me i know that's what makes you so special and unique
it does that's oh that's special it's not that i don't care about the people but i'm like there's
nothing i can do to change it so i'm like if i can't change it and i know i can't change it
i ain't sweating it i know know, but that's awesome.
People come and go, ebb and flow.
Nobody can do that though.
Yeah, they can.
Well, they can, but like it's not like you're by nature just like whatever, move on.
Like I wish I could teach somebody how to do that.
Like people that get so offended by every single thing. Like how can I make them have like a little bit of hope where they're just like, okay, let's just.
Yeah, but here's the thing. A little bit of hope goes a're just like, okay, let's just. Yeah. But here's the thing.
A little bit of hope goes a long way.
And this is true.
Okay.
Another problem is, is being like this to a certain extent.
Yeah.
There's a healthy side to it.
Right.
But the other part about it is, is having to learn not to speak to other people or treat
other people the way that nothing bothers you.
It's been very difficult for me because I don't get offended hardly at all.
Or if I get irritated by something, like it'll be momentary.
And then I'm like, I don't care.
You know, like if, and Heather's the same way.
Like there are things like you can say to Heather
and she will get offended or bothered by them, right?
But internally, she works it out in her mind like I do.
We internally work it out pretty dang quickly
where we're like, whatever, who cares, okay?
Whereas other people internalize it.
The problem is, is with people like us,
we say what we're thinking and we think other people
are going to resolve it the way we resolve it and they don't right which is not good because you have
to be sensitive to other people yeah you do how they feel and that's very difficult when people
don't ebb and flow with like,
if they leave,
they leave.
If they stay,
they stay.
I'm okay with either.
Cause I know that if I didn't do anything,
then I'm okay.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah,
I do.
Rationalize all that.
Other people don't rationalize.
I know.
I know.
But that makes you bad on one end.
Your strength is also a weakness.
I say all the time,
your greatest strengths are off. Your strength is also a weakness. I say all the time. I know.
Your greatest strengths are also your greatest weaknesses.
Yeah.
And you have to learn that balance.
There is that balance.
I don't know.
It's coming up.
100%.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Sarah, go for it.
I'm very similar to where my family swept everything under the rug.
And I'm like.
Did they say they were sorry, though?
No.
Hardly ever?
I like my dad said sorry twice in my whole life.
I never remember my parents ever saying sorry.
But now my sisters and I, I think we've gone to the point where if we have conflict or whatever, we will apologize.
Yeah.
But I'm working through a lot of things that are
like you're hitting some nerves right now so i don't know i won't say too much it's tough man
like even my mom my mom didn't hardly ever say i was sorry i don't even remember my mom saying she
was sorry but there's reasons because my mom really never did anything.
Yeah.
Not that she's perfect,
but she didn't really do a lot to have to say she was sorry for.
There's some people in life that are just,
not that they're perfect,
but they just don't,
they don't do a lot of things.
Like they're just not so out there and people's like,
I'm a lot,
I'm out there.
You know?
And my mom, she's like a wallflower.
Like she doesn't say a lot.
She doesn't do a lot.
Now she does more so than, but she didn't say a lot.
She didn't do a lot.
She just was like, go with the flow.
So she didn't have a lot to apologize for.
So in this case, my mom didn't really need to. My dad all the time needed to. He didn't. Yeah. So she didn't have a lot to apologize for. So in this case, my mom didn't really need to.
My dad all the time needed to.
He didn't.
Yeah.
And us as kids absolutely had a lot of reasons to apologize,
mostly to my mother, and never did.
Okay.
She never required it, though, either.
Mm-hmm.
She's just an easy person, which probably was not good
because the healthier thing would have been to demand an apology.
Right.
Yeah.
So, yeah, because it teaches you it's our job to teach our kids.
Like that's what Tom's demanded it.
Like Tom's like, we're addressing it.
We're taking care of it.
And somebody's apologizing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Usually if we're having to address something, it's usually me that has to apologize because he has no problem.
Like he's super humble.
And even Tom, like even like Tracy,
like you and me, you say it's situational.
Yeah.
With Tom, it's never situational.
Okay.
Like he's such a great example of it is irrelevant
if the person is going to gloat and be so happy
that they're going to have to hear and i'm
sorry for him it don't bother him a bit still yeah it's like me it's it's on me i own that it's like
i'm like it's on me but i don't want to do it it's like i'm doing it like to be so like easy
which you probably can relate like it's so healthy see me, that's super great for me to see. And it makes it easier for me.
But it's still hard.
Yeah.
Still hard from a person who never really said they were sorry.
Always had an excuse.
Right.
There was always a reason why.
Yep, same.
So the sorry didn't need to be said.
Right.
And it's not a good place and it is not the right place to live.
Nope.
It is not healthy to be like that. It's not. Spiritually speaking, it isn't even biblically correct. It's not a good place and it is not the right place to live. Nope. It is not healthy to be like that.
It's not.
Spiritually speaking, it isn't even biblically correct.
It's not.
To live like that.
And there's a lot of people who are like me.
I mean, even you to a certain extent, but you probably say you're sorry more easily than I say I'm sorry.
But I do it a lot.
I still say I'm sorry a lot. But it's not fun.
It's not fun.
It's not fun.
It's not.
I actually hate it.
But I do it.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
Especially if I know the person loves it while I'm doing it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I do it.
But I do it.
I do it. I hate it. it it's so funny i'm learning yeah we all are
learning we all have not arrived okay the next question the last few podcasts sparked this
question for me because it's not hellbound per se but can lead to sin eventually if not stopped
you don't have to add these into the question,
but I wanted to give some examples such as inappropriate joking,
feeling excluded and taking yourself away from a godly,
Holy Spirit-led environment,
wondering why others and not them,
speaking negatively about tithing and not being blessed immediately.
Not all hellbound, but these thoughts can lead to sin. And you are absolutely correct, whoever wrote this question.
What we're going to do is we're gonna um we're gonna break down each specific one that you said because each of these things do lead to sin and they're such a great topic and um
people leave churches relationships uh friendships uh marriages, over some of what we're going to talk about.
But I have seen people lose family and walk away from churches specifically because of the different examples you put down.
And it's so funny. The people who behave like this
and do the things that you gave,
they, and so many times
they think they're spiritual giants.
Sarah's face went, they do.
It is so funny to me
how some of these people
that do these things truthfully believe they're spiritual giants.
And I'm thinking to myself, how can you be a spiritual giant if the words that you say,
say otherwise? You can't be. Let's look at Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3 too. I fed you with milk and not with solid food
for until now you were not able to receive it. And even now you are still not able.
Ouchie mama. Yeah. That one hurts. If that's you and you're one of these things
that this question listed as an example, if you are one of these things that this question listed as an example,
if you are one of these things, you're no spiritual giant,
and you're still on milk.
So fix it.
Easy fix.
Okay, inappropriate joking.
I see this a lot.
It is not good.
And we've talked about this before,
but we'll address it again.
Inappropriate joking.
As a believer, when others are standing around you and they hear you say the things that you say,
you show how spiritually minded you are,
you ruin your witness,
and then on top of that,
if there's a believer who is very immature in their walk, you are now
showing them that they can do the same exact thing. The problem is, is
that will potentially weed them out and take them out of Christianity because a little leaven leavens the whole lump.
So just remember what you say, who you say it to, and who you are around will either destroy
your witness, it'll take out another young believer potentially, or you'll tell a believer
that they can make the same compromising, live the same compromising lifestyle that you do. And it may not remove them out of
their walk with God, but what it will do is it will make others, or it will ruin the witness
of those people too, along with yourself. Look at Ephesians 5.4. It says, neither filthiness,
this is talking about your mouth, the tongue. Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking,
nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. Okay, it doesn't say
you're going to go to hell for any of those things, but it says you're not supposed to do them.
So if it says that you're not supposed to do it, but there's no ramification of going to hell,
should we still do it?
No, we shouldn't do it because it clearly says in the word not to do it.
But a lot of times people will only do the things that scare them to death
and will keep them out of hell.
The reason it says not to do that is because out of the abundance of the heart,
the mouth speaks.
And whatever is going on in here is coming out of your mouth and if it is something that's inappropriate
um and we know when we've gone too far with joking we know when it's cross the line um
we know if we're being if we're sensing don't don't say that. And we still do. You're not supposed
to do that. And the more you're in tune and the more that you fellowship with the Holy Spirit,
if you want to wreck your relationship, as far as if you want to cause yourself to have, like,
it's like having a friend. If you went out with your friend and you knew that your close friend had issues with
certain things that you knew about them and you constantly tease them about them or you constantly
share those things with other people and the whole entire time they kept saying, don't say that,
don't say that, don't do that, don't do that. Eventually that relationship is going to be
ruined because you don't honor or respect what that friend is asking you to do. How is that any different than the Holy Spirit? Boom, right? Yes, absolutely. It's no different. Yeah. You want to ruin your
relationship, then do what you've been told not to do because all you show is a sign of disrespect
and no honor, no honoring of what the Holy Spirit's asking you to do. Anybody want to add
anything to that? That's good. Okay. Yeah,
that's good. Yeah. Okay. But you said that's good. Did anybody say anything else?
Sometimes I can't hear, but I hear somebody say something. Okay. We're tracking with you.
Keep tracking. Keep picking up when I'm putting it. We are.
Okay. All right. If you're feeling, the next one is feeling excluded and taking yourself away from a godly,
Holy Spirit-led environment.
Now, this is, I'm going to have,
I will say this because the four people
in the peanut gallery, well, when I give this example,
they're going to be like, oh my gosh, this is so true.
So feeling excluded and taking yourself away
from a godly holy spirit
led environment okay first i would say why are you being excluded because a lot of times you're
excluded because you're weird correct you're weird as crap nobody wants to be around somebody who's so off beat that they can't fit in to even the most like your your uh
ladies group right your hub group that you have at your Vanessa's house that has a large variety
of different personalities right oh yeah some people make it some people don't but even the wackiest you know like zany like people oftentimes
can deal with it uh like sarah do you know what i'm saying yeah even the most out there in
personalities and i don't mean weirdos no i'm just meaning they're like there are some people that
walk in the room and they're like, Logan,
Logan is different.
Not in a bad way.
But she has a cider.
Anybody who's eating her placenta is not right.
They're not right.
Okay.
But even they can fit in.
Yeah.
Because they know how to socially fit in.
Yeah.
Like we all have our quirkiness.
But when you're so quirky and weird, you're not going to fit in. We all have our quirkiness, but when you're so quirky and weird,
you're not going to fit in. So how about you learn to conform slightly to the people that are around you so you don't make them feel so uncomfortable with you being there? Weirdos is
not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who are unkind and demeaning when they speak or have something to say.
If you're like that, if your words and actions are not kind
or like you take every opportunity
to make somebody feel less about themselves
or talk down to them, okay, you're not gonna fit in.
You're, I mean, that's not going to work.
So for me, feeling excluded.
Are you excluded because you don't know how to behave?
You don't know how to talk to people nicely?
You're a passive aggressive?
Got to love the passive aggressive.
Got to love it.
I love dealing with people who have an agenda behind what they say or the
hunters.
Yeah.
God forbid you hint to me.
Don't hint to me.
Please don't.
Please don't.
I got big shoulders.
I can handle it.
Just come out and say in an appropriate manner,
in a respectful way,
what you feel and what you think you're going to hint to me.
Guess what?
You're going to get back from me.
Sounds good.
That's all you're going to, if i ever respond to you it sounds good that means i am not enabling that crazy just
just say what you gotta say yeah for me just say what you gotta not not every time if i say sounds
good no now i'm like and now we're all like if you have an agenda behind something,
and I know that there's an agenda, and you know there's an agenda,
and I reply with sounds good, it means I'm not partaking. I'm not participating.
Just let's talk.
But I don't like that.
So passive-aggressive. And people,'t like that. So passive aggressive.
And people, just like I grew up in a no, I'm sorry household,
there's people who grow up in passive aggressive households.
You got to learn not to live like that.
That is not a good way to live.
And people don't like it.
Forceful aggressive.
Got to love the forceful aggressive.
I've learned forceful aggressive does not work either.
Nobody wants to be around that either.
Not that I've ever had a problem having friends,
but I have been a bit much for some at different times in life.
And have I lost or have I not had friends?
I've always had plenty of friends.
But have I limited in the number of friends that I could have had
because of being forceful, aggressive?
Probably.
Absolutely.
Do I mind?
No.
I'd be lying if I said I did.
No, I don't.
But at the same time, doesn't make it right at all.
Doesn't make it right. So you still can't behave
like that, even though it doesn't matter to you. Because there are some people who are forceful,
aggressive, and it does matter to them. Both of them are wrong. It doesn't matter.
Um, but have you guys, let me just ask this because of your group.
Isn't it funny how there'll be people who leave your group and they'll make it all that the group was not,
they're excluding themselves
and they don't fit into the group,
but it's the group's fault.
Correct?
Correct.
I see this in church all the time.
Yeah.
And your group, you just had like 40 people at your house.
So there have been people who have come and gone, correct?
I think it was 30.
Yeah, we had 29 women and 33 kids but the week before that wasn't it 40
if you include all the kids yes okay so okay we'll not include the kids so 30 kids 30 people right
so i am sure there are people who don't come to your group because they're excluded they're not
like that's a clique only the popular people or whatever.
And I know in that group there ain't popular people in there,
so that's a lie.
But they'll say that.
But they'll say that to justify them being excluded.
It's sad.
I don't know.
It is.
It's really sad.
But it's really them.
I know.
And like Pastor Tom says a lot on Sundays,
if you bounce from church to church and group to group and somebody else is always the problem and it's the same problem,
maybe look back at yourself and see, am I?
Most of the time, nobody does.
And he says it way meaner than that.
Listen, people leave churches, not just this one.
Oh, yeah. I don't know.
I know most of the churches in the area.
And people bounce around church to church to church to church.
They do.
The most they'll stay is maybe three years.
Three, if you're lucky, four.
A lot of people don't go past the fourth year because they'll start getting very comfortable.
Like you can have people who've been healed.
You can have people who've been delivered.
You can have people who've been financially blessed.
You can have people who have a deeper, their marriage is better.
They have an incredible walk with God.
Like they've never had
before since they've attended your church. And they will walk out for the stupidest,
most dumbest reasons on the face of the earth. And all of it is pride. No one will listen to me.
Nobody respects what I have to say. It's like if the church did that, and I'm talking about a church of even 40 people,
it'd be schizophrenic.
It would be.
I know.
Because you think you can satisfy.
It's just like when Tom said a couple weeks,
like a month ago,
how many of you are freezing in here?
Loads of hands go up.
And how many of you guys are super comfortable
that the temperature is perfect for you?
Loads of hands go up.
How do you satisfy all those people hands go up yep how do you
satisfy all those people i know how do you satisfy those people it's like the sound how many of you
think the sound is too loud you'll have loads of people who rams and then you'll say how many of
you think that could be louder loads of hands go up it needs to be louder because i can bear i mean
you will never ever ever satisfy people So what you do is you try and
get in there as best as you can. But the facts of the matter are you will never please everybody.
People will leave not because God's told them to leave, but because that's what they want to do.
And they'll have every excuse in the book and it will be justified all day long, but they're still wrong.
Yep.
There's nothing you can do about it.
It's just like you guys with the group,
your group is large.
Your group is the average church.
Yeah.
Seriously.
An average church is 30 to 40 people and their hub group is that size.
A lot of our hub groups are that size. Yeah.
It's the size of a church.
Um,
you will never,
people will come and go all day long because you'll never satisfy all those people.
It's not possible.
And you just have to be okay with, I can't satisfy everybody.
I can only do the best that I can.
And that's all there is.
You love them as they go and you pray for them that they'll come back.
And that's what we do here at this church.
If people leave, we pray for them, especially if it's not because God's told them to go. But you got to let them go. And you can't
hold it against them. Same thing. If somebody feels excluded, that's on them. But there's
nothing you can do about that. But they'll lead to sin because the more you're excluded,
the more you separate yourself and do not forsake the assembling of yourself. It's a dangerous thing.
Very dangerous. That will lead to sin.
Yep, it will.
Wondering why others and not them.
How many of us, and I am 10 minutes over,
I'm going to go as fast as I can.
How many of us always are like,
why does that happen to them and not me?
Why does all that good stuff happen to them?
And I'm the same.
No, you're not the same.
Because if you were, it wouldn't be happening to just them.
It would be happening to you too.
That's the truth. Because if you were, it wouldn't be happening to just them. It would be happening to you too. That's the truth.
What?
You're like, no, you're not the same.
The end.
The end.
You can stop there.
You can't be.
Biblically speaking, you can't be the same.
Because God is not, that's not God's covenant.
That's not God's law.
The law is that if you do these things, this is what
comes your way. If you don't do these things, guess what? You ain't getting squat and you
better not cry about it because you have no rights to cry about it. Quit looking at what
is happening for everybody else and start focusing on yourself. And those things will come your way
because you'll get yourself right. You stay that same ugliness inside, always being jealous of what other people have,
coveting whatever people,
or the poor woe is me mentality,
it'll get you nowhere.
Right.
Get you nowhere.
But so many people are always looking.
There have been people like,
why do they have that?
Why did they get a raise?
I work at the same place they do.
They got the raise and I didn't get the raise.
Well, are they tithing and you're not?
Probably.
Are they doing their job in excellence and you're barely doing enough to get by?
Right.
There it is.
Probably.
Yep.
I mean, there's rules.
Right.
Like, there are biblical principles. Probably. Yep. I mean, there's rules. Right. Like, they're biblical principles.
Right.
And you sit there and go, well, I'm a Christian, so all of it should be the same.
No way.
It doesn't work like that.
God's not fair.
Oh, God is very fair.
God is very fair.
It's very fair.
How he has set things up and designed things for each and every single one of us is so that each of us can get to the highest level possible
for wherever we're at.
It's do we follow and apply what the principles are?
If we do not, then we will stay the same
or we'll go backwards.
And all the while, some will blame other people
instead of ultimately looking at themselves in the mirror.
The best thing you could ever do for yourself,
I know I've been there, had to do it, is look in the mirror and say, it could ever do for yourself i know i've been there had to
do it is look in the mirror and say it's me it's on me because as soon as you look at the me in the
mirror and say what do i got to do to fix me that's when you start going up until then it's not
happening it's just not happening um are the oh why does everybody compliment them and never compliment me?
I want to throw up.
I want to throw up.
People in leadership deal with this a lot.
People in leadership look at what other people in leadership get,
and they wonder, why do people always say how good they are
or compliment them on how well they spoke or how well they sung or whatever?
And I'm just telling you, you keep wanting that, you keep desiring it,
it's never going to happen.
God's doing what is best for you, which is to not let that happen for you.
Because if you count on what other people say about you to make you feel of value,
guess what's going to happen? You're going to, again, it's just like what I said on Wednesday,
you do not want to believe what people have to say about you, because then you'll have to believe
the negative that people say about you. And you don't want that either. Why don't you just be
secure in who you are in Christ? Know that he's called you to do
what he's called you to do. You're saying what he wants you to say. It'll land on who it lands.
And the people who don't like it, they won't like it. But you've been obedient. You're doing what
God's called you to do. And that's all that matters. If you're pleasing him, that's all that
matters. You don't need to worry about anybody else. It doesn't matter.
When you get there, you might get the compliments. Until then, and I'll be honest with you, you might not want the compliments because the negatives come with it. And I will say ministry is bittersweet.
It is bittersweet. The sweetness is far better than the bitter, and it's far more, but the bitter's
rough. And if you can't handle it, don't cook in the kitchen. It'll make you want to run. So
let's see. Let's see. Let me keep going. I made a list of those things. I'm going to keep going
past them. Next one, speaking negatively
about tithing and not being blessed immediately. That might be why everything happens for somebody
else. This was one of the other examples. Maybe that's why it's not happening for them.
Because if you speak negatively about life and death is held in the tongue and those who eat
its fruit, I mean, hello, you'll get the results of what you're doing.
So I made a list.
If you want to be blessed, give.
And I'm going to give you a list of ways you can give.
Give of your time.
Give of your finances.
Give of your talents.
And the whole entire time you're doing that, don't complain.
Because it's exactly like what you said. Remember,
last on Wednesday, she said that we are to be a joyful giver. But what's the other word that you use? Because it's another term that's a cheerful giver. Okay, because the word says joyful and
cheerful giver. So you can't complain. If you're giving of your tithe and offering, shut your mouth,
give it joyfully, and see the results. If you're giving of your time, and offering, shut your mouth, give it joyfully, and see the results.
If you're giving of your time, if God, if you volunteered for a position in the church or
outside of the church, you volunteered your time to bless somebody, maybe it's an elderly person
and you're going there and you're helping them throughout the day, whatever their need is or
whatever. Okay, maybe you volunteered to clean somebody's home
because you have a cleaning business and so you're planting that seed to the lord i will clean for
free for these people because i know in turn god you're going to bless me with more business okay
while you're cleaning that person's house don't complain about cleaning that person's house. Amen. I mean, that seems logical to me, but to so many people,
it's not. So let me advise you, shut your mouth. If you are volunteering in the church,
and even if it's like, if you're volunteering in the kids ministry and you have a kid that
goes to the kids ministry and you don't want to volunteer in there,
if you use it, you serve it.
Okay.
Not everybody's going to work.
And, you know, it's so funny to me.
A lot of times the people who don't want to serve in kids ministry and they use it because
they have a kid, their kid's the most horrible one in there.
But they don't want to serve.
I understand why you don't want to serve. Because you created a monster.
You don't want to go in there.
And now you want everybody else to go in there and serve your monster.
We don't.
So you're going to have to pay your time.
You created that mess.
You're going in there too.
But I'm just saying, if you have to serve in kids ministry,
and you have a kid in there, we're going to use this example.
Use that time to die to your
flesh, serve, be happy, be joyful, minister to those kids. Super important, right? If you, let's see,
if you're a greeter and somebody is rude and nasty to you as they're coming in,
don't let that affect your rest of your time as you're greeting. Overcome and just be cheerful and joyful through the whole entire process.
People are going to tick you off.
Believe me, I know.
It happens.
You've committed to do something.
And you've committed to serve the Lord.
I mean, serve and give of your time.
So do it in honor to him.
And don't let how other people treat you or respond to you be the dictate
dictating force behind that um and give of your talents if you can sing if you can uh make a good
meal if you can um like sarah's phenomenal director she directs on sund mornings. She's one of our directors for our Sunday morning service.
Listen, if you serve in the media department, that's your church. Like we have over, we've,
we had over 600 people watching and you and the media department, you need to do it in excellence.
You need to do it as unto the Lord. You need to submit to the authorities that have been put before you. You need to give of your time or your talent. That
talent is, that's a huge church that you actually are facilitating. We do the ones of the people
inside the building and then you are ministering and like the ones that get saved, that's held to
your account. That's huge. You have a 600-member church.
If you're doing that camera, you are doing that to 600 people.
Sarah's directing to 600 people so that they can see the best church service
or experience it in their living room.
That is huge.
If you know how to cook and if you know how to do these things,
you should be giving of your time or you should be giving of your talents.
Don't sit in a seat so that you can be fed. Why don't you feed others
as well? Because there are lots of people who need it. If you're a great cook, get the heck
back there in the hospitality and start feeding people. Bless them with your talents and your
skills. You wonder why things are happening for everybody else and not you?
It's because you're sitting on your hands and you're doing absolutely nothing for the kingdom.
Stand up, start operating in your gifts, talents, give of your finances. And I tell you radically
overnight, everything in your home will change from your kids to your finances to you.
You will not look the same.
You will not be the same.
You will be different.
And people will be like, what the heck happened to her?
Or what the heck happened to him?
It's because you've grabbed a hold of what the word of God says.
And you're taking it by storm.
When you go into a battle,
you don't like tiptoe through the tulips.
You take it by force.
And that's spiritually what we're supposed to do daily
in our walks with God.
We don't fight against little fairies.
We fight against spiritual principalities
and you got to take it.
You got to take back your home.
You got to take back your finances
and you got to take back your talents and you got to use them for You got to take back your home. You got to take back your finances. And you got to take back your talents.
And you got to use them for him instead of the world.
Amen?
Amen.
Has anybody got anything else to add or to say?
Because we are 21 minutes over.
That was so good.
God bless.
That was a mic drop.
Mic drop.
So does that mean I don't lean anybody to the Lord today?
I mean, if they came here for that.
I can't afford for any of you to die and go straight to hell over the weekend.
Speed edition.
Or to Wednesday.
Okay, speed edition.
But that's that.
Okay.
Okay.
So you guys have nothing to say?
No, that was so good.
All right.
Good job.
I just wanted to add to that.
Yeah, that was good.
God bless, Vanessa.
You're getting ready to go eat.
I know.
She's like, hurry up.
She's just ready to go.
I don't really have anything to add.
You're 20 minutes over. Jeff's waiting on me. All right. Jeff's waiting on's like, hurry up. She's just ready to go. I don't really have anything to add. You're 20 minutes over.
Jeff's waiting on me.
Jeff's waiting on me. Just shut up. He said, don't make my
wife late. Yep, he did.
What time do you have to be there, Vanessa?
5.30. We got time. We got plenty of time.
Okay. I'm going to hold her.
Text him, hold him.
That's good.
Let's pray. Seriously, if you need
the Lord and you are not saved,
or maybe you have been saved, listen.
I know if you've been saved, the Holy Spirit is tugging on your heart.
He's been tugging on your heart.
He's been trying to melt that hard shell, and you know he is.
Or maybe you walked away and you're like, yeah, not me.
It's not happening for me.
Eventually of will, the more you open yourself up to him
or for me, like it would be just a song on the radio
and I'd be like, eh, and I'd flip the station.
Eventually the songs as they played,
I'd be like, not as hard.
It's like, cause that's what Jesus is.
He's such a gentleman.
And what he does is he just waits for the right moment.
He just keeps trying to draw you in and draw you back.
Because he wants relationship with you.
The thing is, is we think, we think he thinks we need him. But in all actuality, God just wants
us. He wants that relationship with us. The Holy Spirit and Jesus, they're like, I want you. I
created you. You're my being. I don't need you. I want you. And so that's very powerful. All the while we have our arms and we resist him.
But as he draws us in so sweetly, so kindly, and some of you know what I'm talking about,
we become more softer and softer. And God, each and every single one of us,
God has either made you a very good speaker so you can share the gospel and win people to the Lord.
He's given you
through being able to be an encourager or just simply through the food.
I mean, listen, no one greater has been won by feeding their belly.
I mean, that's such a great skill set to be able to cook
and share the gospel with people
through just simply feeding them. And so every single one of us has been given a gift and a
talent and they all should be used for him. And maybe at one time you were, and it's not,
you're not receptive to it, but God will keep coming after you. And maybe you are within the
sound of my voice and you totally get what I'm saying.
Jesus is longing for you to come home and he is longing for you to use your skill set
that he has blessed you with for him so that others get the same thing or return to the
fold or get a new life in him.
And you will be able to hold that to your account when you go to heaven, that you took
others with you.
If you don't know him today, I encourage you strongly, strongly to make that decision.
Because he so longingly wants you and desires to have a relationship with you.
It'll be like no relationship you've ever had in your whole entire life.
It is the best thing going.
So if you would love this, say this prayer with me.
It's super simple, it's super fast, it's super easy,
and it's not complicated.
Heavenly Father, I come to you right now.
I thank you, Father, for dying on the cross.
I thank you for dying for my sins,
every single one of them.
I thank you because of that.
Heaven can be mine.
I ask you to forgive me of my sins.
Wash me clean.
Make me new.
And from now on, whatever you say to do, I will do.
Whatever you tell me to go, I will go.
Whatever you tell me not to do, I will not do. Whatever you say to go, I will go. Whatever you tell me not to do, I will not do.
Whatever you say to do, I will do.
I will use my gifts and talents for you.
I thank you for giving them to me and blessing me.
And from this moment on, I will live for you forever.
You are the Lord of my life.
I thank you.
I praise you.
In Jesus' name we pray, Amen. If you said that prayer,
you are golden. Listen, you can be taken out tomorrow and you're going to heaven. It's that
simple. It's not going to happen because, listen, once you get saved, you have a hedge of protection
around you. And Genesis, it tells you that you will live to 120 years. Psalm 91 says, long life will I give you.
So you ain't going nowhere.
You got plenty to do.
Live for him.
Have a great weekend.
I will see you on Wednesday.
And if you're in the area or you come to this church,
I will see you Sunday.
Be blessed.
Amen.
Jesus name.
See you Sunday.
Bye.
Real talk.
Real talk. See you Sunday. Bye.