The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E11 | 03-01-24

Episode Date: March 2, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E11 | 03-01-24...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. It's Friday. One day. Before the weekend. You know, I feel like Friday night is actually like weekend is on.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Yeah, I agree. I don't know what it is, but all my life, even in school, you get to Friday. I feel like Friday doesn't even feel like a real work day to me. When I actually, not that I don't work right now, I don't really ever have a day off because I pretty much work every day, but I don't work right now, I don't really ever have a day off because I pretty much work every day. But I don't even mind that. But mentally, even today, even though I will be working tomorrow, I'm like, I think today I'm like, oh, it's the weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Like right now I wake up and I'm like, oh, today's, I'm kind of off already in my head, even though I'm going to work. You're not. I mean, is that crazy? Like, do you guys think the same way? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but we're not. I mean, is that crazy? Like, do you guys think the same way? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but we're not. It's like Friday is like nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Yeah. You bring on Monday and you're like, ugh. And I don't know why, because it's really no other different than any other day. No, it's not. We're programmed to think that way. Yeah. I think we're programmed to think that way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Like Friday was payday, you know? Oh, yeah, that's true. That is true. That's true. Yeah. That is true. That's true. That is true. Except for back in the day, I worked a job. You got paid on the 1st and the 15th. So whatever days those landed on.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Okay. That's what you got paid on. Killing the theory. I didn't like that. What'd you say? I said killing the theory. Yeah, I didn't like it. Mentally, it screwed me up. It goes along with what you guys are just tried to figure it out. I didn't like it. Mentally, it screwed me up.
Starting point is 00:01:45 It goes along with what you guys are saying. Yeah. Mentally, I didn't like it. Yeah. Mm-mm. Didn't work for me. I don't like that either. And then I've worked a job.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I've worked lots of jobs. I worked a job. You only got paid once a month. No. Yes. No way. I did. I'd quit.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I hated that too. You only have to budget. Yeah. That's very budget-y. I've really never budgeted, which has landed me in hot water. I was going to say. And it's also caused me to rise above. There you go.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It's all in how you. It is. All perspective. It's all in the stability in which you look at your finances. True. Well, really, biblically. If you're a good steward, then you're going to be okay. Yep. If you're a hot mess, me.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I think everybody at one time or another learns. I mean, some people are just like Heather has always financially. I've known her since she was pretty much in high school. And I have known her to be financially secure as far as in her thought processes. And some would say, well, that's because of, you know, being a younger mother and things like that. Yeah, I would say opposite. That's not true at all. Yeah. That's not true at all.
Starting point is 00:03:01 What's the excuse for people who don't have to like that, like have gone in? I lived on my own at 18. What's the excuse for people who don't have to, like, that, like, have gone out? I lived on my own at 18. What was my excuse? Right. I had none because I was an adult, too. I still screwed up big time. But, like, she's always been. Some people are just, so when it comes to finances,
Starting point is 00:03:21 and she should not have been because she really wasn't trained. She kind of, like, taught herself a lot about how to be an adult. She didn't have like the easiest of upbringings. People loved her, but I'm just saying she didn't have like that's something she taught herself. So I'm just saying like nobody has an excuse. Yeah. No. To be a hot mess.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Nope. None. Because some people just got it. Yeah. They just, they think, they process. I know. They do. That was not me.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Me either. I don't know. Like were you guys really great with money? No. All your life? No. Sarah's no. You're no.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Taya is just learning. She's just smiling. She's still in the process. Just learning. Like you have a nice little savings account though right now yeah yeah now that's the first time in your life yeah because we busted your chops big time um but on on having no money but you've turned the you turned the tide and you're not even 18 yet. Exactly. So you've still got a lot of stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:04:27 But I'm just saying, even you like getting it at an early age. So I don't know. I don't know where we went with that. I don't know. Just that it's Friday. Yeah, it's Friday. It's Friday. I'm super excited.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah. If you need to be saved, Friday's today. Today's the day. Today's the day. Okay. I told you on Wednesday, today's the day. So if you put it off, it's a lucky you're alive because you would have went to hell on Wednesday, Thursday, and any time before now if you didn't do it and you waited on
Starting point is 00:04:59 me. That was your mistake. And you waited on me. That's your mistake. Oh, my gosh. So let's go through the go let's go through the things yeah okay and then we'll hit the uh hit the the first topic that i want to address perfect okay so if you are on facebook what i want you to do is i want you to like i want you to comment
Starting point is 00:05:18 who you are and where you're watching from and then if you're not like, if you haven't liked our actual like Hope Hotline page, go do that too real quick. And then hop over to Rumble where we have got a whole conversation going. So I got to start and just say hi to my mom. She's in Mexico right now and she's finally sending me pictures. So, hey mom, I'm glad you're joining us from the beach.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It must be nice to live a life of a traveler. What is it called? A nomad? Yeah, she is. She finds her home wherever she goes. I know. She's just, her and my dad are just chilling on the beach in Mexico, living their best lives. And I love it. So we've got a bunch of people. And did we figure out who our friend was? Was daniel did he say he didn't say okay we have one unknown person on rumble and logan's on she's joining us live she also said that the military is first and 15th too for paydays so she gets that that's probably when i work for the government that's probably yeah that's probably what i did not like that yeah exactly i would not like that either um and then we've got Sean on and he said that the Twisted Fork was hopping last night with some Foundation Church people doing some line dancing. What?
Starting point is 00:06:31 So we're missing out, people. We got to get back. That's interesting. Yeah. He said it was a good night. That's interesting. The Twisted Fork apparently has got some good eats. Is that right? Yeah, they do. Oh my gosh. Yes. I heard the service isn't that great. No, it's not. It's not at all. Sorry, Twisted Fork apparently has got some good eats. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah, they do. Oh my gosh. Yes. I heard the service isn't that great.
Starting point is 00:06:46 No, it's not. It's not at all. Sorry, Twisted Fork. Yeah, I know, guys. I'm not going to be. I mean, it's been a few months. I'm not going to lie. But I.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Okay. Sarah said it's iffy on the food. Okay. So maybe it's what you pick. But some people absolutely love the food. Yeah. Everything I have is good. But I've heard the service, no bueno.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. That as well. So maybe you just go on the night you're going to dance and you really don't care when you get served. Maybe eat before you go. And then just pick. Eat before you go. And have a little sneaky snack there.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's like the bowling alley. Yeah. You better have something to do while you're waiting because that service always stinks at the bowling alley. But like you don't expect to eat anything really good at the bowling alley, let's face it. Right. It's almost like gas station food, except for Wawa.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, Wawa's good. And Super Day. Oh, Super Day. Super Day kills it. Super Day, like, that shouldn't even be a gas station. Super Day should be a restaurant with a gas station, like, on the side. Not gas station food. Get Guy Fieri on the line.
Starting point is 00:07:45 What is that? Diners, drive-ins, and dives. 100%. He needs to go to Super Day. He does. He'll be going like, that spike blonde hair would be like going crazy if he went into Super Day.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Oh my gosh. He'd love it. They got, Super Day, nobody's got nothing on Super Day. No. Like even like, Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Come on. Come on. I've had Junior's Cheesecake from Brooklyn. Like their original bakery. Super Day is better. I'm just Super Day. Like if you don't know Super Day, some of you are going,
Starting point is 00:08:20 where the heck is Super Day? I'm about to like open your, blow your mind. I'm going to, like, blow your mind. I was about to say something else. Listen, Super Day. Super Day. It's in East Inglewood.
Starting point is 00:08:38 It's right there on 776, and what is it? They call it 772, but it's also Gasparilla Road. 771. So 776, I would say Gasparilla Road, which will take you to Boca Grande, but a lot of people say 771. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:08:58 772, but I'm glad you corrected me. 771. So right there on the corner, there's a Publix, and it's directly across the street. It was blown away by the hurricane, but they got their signs back up. They didn't need a sign. Everybody knows. I'm just saying, go in there, get some good eats.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Super Day owes me big time right now. Yeah, I was going to say. Send us a cheesecake. So good. I drove past there yesterday. It was everything I could do not to go in there. Get me some cheesecake. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Okay. Enough said. All right. So we've got Sarah on and Daniel's joining us live. I just saw you in the parking lot. So, hey, Barb is on and Sean said that there is a lady that goes to Twisted Fork that looks like Hope and she was there again. And Logan said that the reason that the service is no good because we don't spend money on alcohol. So I mean, there's that. But
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Starting point is 00:11:27 And that's it for today. That's good. Now look at how beautiful Vanessa looks. I know. Look at that girl. Look it up. Mahatsi Tatsi. Girl is looking better than normal.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Showered today. Just a shocker. How could she look better than normal? took a shower today Showered How could she look better than normal But today she does I've got a hot date after this Okay so Is it your wedding anniversary Or dating anniversary
Starting point is 00:11:57 So both We got married on our one year dating anniversary So March 1st Are you kidding me? I know. It just so happened to land that way. I have never heard of that before in my life. So 16 married, 17 together.
Starting point is 00:12:14 That's super cute. You got married within a year? I was engaged. Did she tell me this already? I don't know. I don't know if you knew. Yeah, I don't know. No, you told us the story about how you met.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Did you not tell us you got married within the year then? Within a year. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's right. I think that's right because you said you knew he was the one God told you. Okay. We were engaged within like three months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I know. I know. I know. Yeah. Took me three years to say I love you. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. When the Holy Spirit. Took me three years to say I love you. Oh my gosh. Almost three years.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Holy moly. Oh yeah. Well, that's not because I, listen, I knew like within six months that I loved him, but I wasn't saying it. Right. Right. I ain't saying it. That's a big deal. Apparently not. You're saying
Starting point is 00:13:09 yeah. Apparently not. Three months engaged. I know. Well, he was older. Jeff is ten years older than me. He was older. He doesn't look at that. He was praying for his wife already. He knew. So whenever the Holy Spirit gave me the green light, we're like, he knew. Yeah. He knew. And so whenever the Holy Spirit,
Starting point is 00:13:25 the Spirit gave me the green light, we're like, let's do this. Let's do this. Well, here's the thing. Like, he's afraid. He's afraid. He's like, somebody might grab that chick.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, I gotta snatch her up. It was a good catch. You are a great catch. But both of you do not look. I mean, both of you. He does not look. He looks great. He ages like fine wine. I know. He of you. He does not look. He looks great. He's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:13:48 He's aging backwards. Jeff looks fantastic. He's turned into a teenager. You've done good, girl. I know. I know. On paper, though, he was a hot mess when I first met him. We know this.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But. To know him is to love him even still to this day. He's not a hot mess, but. No, but he's still a little rough. He has no filter. He's a little rough around the edges still. He's more New York than you are. And he isn't even from there.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Well, he is. No, he wasn't born there. Yeah, upstate New York. Oh, upstate. Okay. Because he does not act it. He does not talk like it. But he hung out in the Boogie Down Bronx.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I mean, he does act it as far as he has no filter. But as far as like, you know how there's some people from New York are kind of like they think they're the thing. Jeff does not act like that. Jeff just says whatever's on his mind. But he doesn't think he's the thing. He's a very humble person. Yeah. I think. I do too. I think he's the thing. He's a very humble person. I think he's the thing. Well, that's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:14:50 You're looking like you think he's the thing right now. Somebody's got plans for the night. Maybe. It's probably not you. It's probably him. You just know that he has plans for the night. It's all good.. It's probably him. You just know that he has plans for that night. It's all good. The crock pot.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's right, girl. The crock pot is on. Oh, my gosh. He's counting it. It's set for six hours. Maybe four. And when it's done, it's done. That's great. That's all I, it's done. That's great.
Starting point is 00:15:26 That's all I'm going to say. That's great. Where you got? Sarah's left the building. Where's Sarah? There's her head. There she is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:33 What are you talking about? You just came off your cruise. You know about that crock pot. There were some microwaved dinners too. Air fryer, whatever. Microwave. Lots of cooking.
Starting point is 00:15:49 On the cruise. Are you not allowed to cook on the cruise? No. They do all the cooking for you, Sarah. All of it. All of it. Look at her face. I need another camera.
Starting point is 00:16:01 What? I need another camera. I need a camera over here so we can get their faces yeah yeah we do well yeah we do well your your parents are on vacation right now tracy they are don't even want to think about that nope no thank you moving right along so what are we talking about today how do you think all that was brought in oh wait a minute all all that was brought into the world. Hope. Yeah, she is. Go Kim.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Go Kim. Go Kim. Oh my gosh. I think we need to talk about short engagements again. What? What? What? Short engagement. There's good stuff in the hallway, girl.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Oh. I know what's going on. Good stuff in the hallway, girl. Oh. I know what's going on. Good stuff in the hallway. Okay. She's asking me to get her nails done and I'm like, do you have a snack?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Sarah's daughter's here for the podcast. She's begging. I thought she was begging for some treats. No, she's begging for her nails to be done. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Not that you care. They do. Not that it matters. They love us. Listen, I'm going to keep you apprised of what's going on in the room right now. So, hey, I really, really want to address this for grandparents and parents.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like, some parents already know this. Some people don't because they have very young children. So, I sent... Listen, I go to walmart to innocently buy my girl uh brinley like i don't know why it probably was for no reason we had a we had a slumber party at my house like two weeks ago me and brinley it was when norma had got her teeth her wisdom teeth taken out was it that week it was that week so it was like just last week it was
Starting point is 00:17:52 wednesday i think so me and my girl me my girl um go to so it was an evening of going out to dinner then getting up then we got up we went out to breakfast and then getting up. Then we got up, we went out to breakfast. And then I told her, I said, now, she had plans at 11.30. So before she had her plans that she had to do, I was like, let's go and let's go shopping and then you can go do your plans for the day. So we go and I take her into Walmart to just let her pick out a couple things.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Because she needs to have them all around her. Because she knows that I love her when she's playing with them. So I go there, and we are shopping down the aisles. And lo and behold, put that picture up, Tracy. This is what I see that doll and then what do you got to say about that time i've watched that show that's a show it has nothing to do with being gay or anything well no because tracy heather looked it up and it absolutely does say that it does that show is about like a fashion school okay and i'm telling you there's
Starting point is 00:19:04 no characters that are gay well i don't care but she said she looked it up i was like is that homosexual is that transgender look that up somebody look it up right now because heather did look i was like what is up with this heather and she's like let me look it up and she said it absolutely says that it is now if i'm proven wrong then praise you the lord but people need to know like there are other stuff out there are you still looking yeah what's it saying guys and and and if tal you watch this and it is homosexual, then we got to go in her brain and renew it. My gosh. Cause she's, she's obviously whacked. She's been indoctrinated.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So it's hard. Cause you like, just obviously when you find Google, I'm going to pull this up for a second. Is that one? I know. So this one says Bella partner. Like what? Like,
Starting point is 00:20:00 is that this, is that a rainbow? I haven't seen her in the show. So there might've been a new season that come down, but now there's a new season. I said there might? I haven't seen her in the show. So there might have been a new season that come down. But now there's a new season. I said there might. I don't know. I'm looking right now.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Okay. Look at it. So when it, like obviously on Google, who knows. But it says the backstory of the franchise revolves around an elite high school for visual arts featuring students who represent colors of the rainbow. But that's all that I'm finding right this second. I know. I wish Heather was here. I didn't tell Heather I was doing this that I'm finding right this second I know I wish Heather was here I didn't tell her she found it because Heather would have like snap shotted which yeah found but like what coincidence it's the rainbow and
Starting point is 00:20:37 what does that mean it represents all the colors of the rainbow what does that mean? Right. Yeah, I'm not finding. Is it subliminal like Disney? I don't know. But I'm just saying we as parents, even if that isn't, that bothers me. I was so mad when I saw that. What are you two laughing at? She's texting me. I thought she found something i know no she doesn't what's the name of the show rainbow high i've not seen anything have you watched that or
Starting point is 00:21:12 you know anything about it no no like literally the show has like nothing in it like now people might take it that way but i've watched this like show like two times in a row like all three seasons two times like off the top like when i first like i wrote rainbow high transgender gay and nothing's like i mean there's reddit obviously that are saying like change my mind or something but it's i can't find anything like yeah i don't know. I know. So we might have to come back to this one. But I'm just saying, okay, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I didn't know that was a show. Yeah. And there's nothing bad in it? No. Huh. Interesting. I don't know. Parents, like, listen. I know. Be mindful and watch out. Yeah. The don't know. Parents, like, listen.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I know. Be mindful and watch out what the kids are watching. I didn't know that was a show, but even what they're playing with. Because there's other ones, like, there's other dolls right now. You can, like, I don't know if parents know this, because, like, Logan's got small, a baby. She doesn't know. But,'m just saying you wash their bodies and then there's private parts
Starting point is 00:22:28 that show up on the bodies. What are we thinking? What are we thinking with this stuff? We are literally indoctrinating our kids. I know that you know which one it is, but you might not know it's those dolls. Your kids have played with them. Not your kids
Starting point is 00:22:44 necessarily in general. Like I know that Heather does have some of them, but she's very picky about the ones that Brinley plays with. Like there are certain ones she won't let her play with because they do do that. Like you stick the doll in water and then certain things show up on the doll. You know which one I'm talking about? Yeah, it's LOL dolls. LOL, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Like what the heck? I don't know. Can't we just go back to Barbie and Ken? But even there, look. It's so bad, man. People, hmm. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 We'll move to the first question, but I don't like that. It bothered me. It literally bothered me that, spiritually speaking, what's happening to our kids? There's a reason why they're doing all of this stuff. We need to, part of the resistance and the restraining and to occupy is that we pray over our children, but we pray over these things that they don't infiltrate and they do not. There's no people aren't capitalizing on this stuff. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:57 That with this stuff gets stopped. It doesn't just stop at the political level. It stops at the Disney level. It stops at, I mean, in the libraries where they're having, you know, woke children's hour, like story times and stuff. I mean, we really, when my kids, I didn't even have kids. And I would write or support different legislation that protected the kids' school systems, keeping certain people out because of the things that they were wanting done. Even if you don't have a child or if your children are grown, you're a grandparent, or you're single and you have no intention of getting married or whatever, we have a duty. We have a duty to protect these kids. We want them saved.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And if they can indoctrinate them into perversion, that's an easier way for these children not to be saved. Because it says a reprobate mind is very difficult for someone. Once you get to a reprobate mind, it's very difficult for you to bring them in and to save them. And part of the reprobate mind before you is sexuality. And homosexuality is a part of that. Like it's very difficult once you get to that type of perversion for you to turn the tide. And it's scriptural.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So like we really need to be after this with our kids. I mean, big time. And that's, I think we just think, well, my kid's safe. They grow up in my home. Like if you don't pay attention to what they're playing with or where they're hanging out or what they're watching on their, on their phone or their device, um, or maybe it'll be your grandchildren because everybody gets, uh, things get, um, more lenient, more liberal as the, uh, generations go. So my thing is, let's just be really attacking this. Even if that doll isn't what we think it is, there are plenty of other things out there that are.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And so we just need to be really diligent with our children and what's happening with them, and what their hearts are being opened to by. And everything flows through the heart, and we have got to protect and guard their hearts. So enough said on that, but that bothered me so bad. I was like, I'm going to hit that subject. And, you know, I told, I'm seriously thinking about subject and you know I told I was seriously thinking about this I'm seriously praying about this but I am seriously I we need we do need I was thinking I was telling um you guys a couple weeks ago we do need um certain I would love to have a great
Starting point is 00:26:59 parenting hub but you have to have people who have been extremely successful who all their kids are saved and um not ones that still have kids that are that are like you need them their kids to be adults right and all of them you have to have that person have had to have a great track record or the kids are now saved. Like I can't have just anybody do that. And if you don't have somebody who has a great success rate, then people will go, well, you're a kid and they'll totally eliminate everything you say. So even if they are qualified, they'll be disqualified because they don't have all their kids ducks in a row. So, but I was thinking, man, I'm thinking maybe I should just write a book or something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Biblically speaking and not, and I just don't even, I'm like, I don't even know where to go, but people are lost because there's a lot of people who did not have good parents, and so they don't even know how to parent. And James Dobson's book helped me with disciplining, but it didn't teach me how to be a good parent. And the Bible has got a great breakdown on it, but some people just don't even know where to find it. So I might just do that. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I don't even know where to begin, though. I don't even know how you write a book. If I'm supposed to do it, God will help me. You just do that. I just don't know. I don't even know where to begin, though. I don't even know how you write a book. If I'm supposed to do it, God help me. You just do it. Just do it? You just start writing it. Ask Sarah. Sarah, how do you do it?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Do it. Sarah, have you written a book? No, but I'm supposed to be. Thanks for reminding me. That helps me in no way. But you just start writing. You just start writing. Oh, I would never.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Figure out how to put it together. Yeah. Yeah. I thought to myself, maybe you just figure out the topics you want to hit. Okay. And then you start writing the topics. Yeah. But like, how do you know that?
Starting point is 00:28:55 Like, that thing might last forever and I don't want one. I want like a little teeny tiny, not pamphlet, but mini book. Yeah. Like a mini book. Cause I would like, I don't have time to write, read books anymore. That's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Start with the topics and then like go from there. Go from there. Yeah. Like the different chapters. Yeah. That you would hit. Yeah. Now this really makes you feel like we're in your living room.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Having a, having a conversation. Brainst brainstorming. Welcome to our life. Yeah. And I'm taking up time to answer questions. I know. I was like, that's that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Acting is a tough thing for people. It is. And we have so many people in our church that are like newly saved. Like, how did where does it begin? And it's hard because some people are so dogmatic about like everything that they think and then there's some people that are like totally hands off like i don't even know where to start so it's like such extremes like super super strict and then like i've i don't know where to even start i've seen i've seen the super super strict i've
Starting point is 00:30:01 seen it and it comes back to bite them in the butt. Yeah, I agree. Because there's hypocrisy. I agree. Oftentimes, the super, super strict don't follow the very rules that they have set for everybody else in the family. Right. And it comes back. There's a balance to everything. I agree. You're going to be super, super strict. make sure you're doing it too. Correct. Not rules for thee and not for me. Right. Or like something close enough. Like they'll say like, you know, no candy, but then they're drinking soda. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like there's always something where it's like, okay, well, I totally agree. The super strict thing. Oh, I know. Oh my gosh. Like no sugar, but then they're sneaking off eating a candy bar. Right, right. I get it. And you don't think the kid's going to find out later on in life? Yeah. 100%. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Like no sugar. But then they're sneaking off eating candy. Right, right. Yeah, I get it. Right. And you don't think the kid's going to find out later on in life?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah. 100%. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Or everything's got to be organic. Right. And then you got to like. Keep up with that.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, good luck. And then you find out nothing's really organic because it's all a lie. There you go. Yeah, I know. Okay. It's true. I know. People don't understand like it's not really organic that you're eating. Yeah. I know. Okay. It's true. I know. People don't understand. Like it's not really organic that you're eating.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I think I found that out. We found out a little system, right? From Deb. About nine is fine. What is what? There's a little trick when you go to the grocery store. If it begins,
Starting point is 00:31:17 like you gotta, you gotta get really close. Then it's organic and non GMO. So nine is best. Four is okay. And then three is like bad. Everything I eat is a three. No.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I can pretty much promise you that. No, like the vegetables. They're like, what are they called? What is Bill Gates trying to do with the stuff? Like bioengineered. So like three is like bioengineered. So stay away from threes. But like nine is fine. so like three's like bioengineered so stay away from threes but um like nine is fine but like pomegranates it's really hard to find a nine pomegranate or
Starting point is 00:31:52 dragon fruit those are ones that are like pretty difficult little yeah they're kind of like have helped to be made so yeah anyways but i love pomegranate. Me too. But it's too difficult. Just give me the juice. I've already tried. Me and Tommy have tried to suck one seed at a time. Yeah, there's like a way to like peel it and all kind of, yeah. But I. Watering.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I know, they're so good. I know, I love them. Talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's too difficult. It is. It's like, for me me it's like Maryland crabs blue crab people are like it's so
Starting point is 00:32:28 like you gotta eat a lot of crab to get full and I'm like it's worth every single crack open of that shell and other people are like not me it's too much work for a little bit of meat and I'm like what I'm used to but a pomegranate too much work
Starting point is 00:32:44 not a lot of meat. I don't have the time. Just give me some juice. They have like seeds now. Like actually you can like buy them in the little containers and they're just their seeds. Already done for you. Yeah, but the seeds, you like have to eat so many seeds
Starting point is 00:33:01 to like really, too hard. Way too way too hard okay i'll just take the juice all right let's let's take a question okay let's go i have a question about dealing with extended family when you go to the same church and listen to the same preaching the pastor preaches and they don't live by biblical principles and do exactly opposite of what the pastor preaches how do you separate yourself from this type of relationship? I've asked the Holy Spirit how to handle it, and he repeatedly tells me to just pray for them, even though I see them losing friendships and respect from church family. I know their hearts, and they don't mean harm, but it's just not biblical. That's a fun one. Yeah. nothing like going to church with family
Starting point is 00:33:45 especially difficult family yeah um i said i'm gonna say like family situations can be super tough and I got to be very careful how I answer this question because if I cause a family riff, that would not be good. So I'm going to be very, I'm going to tell you how to handle it biblically. I'm not going to give you any of my opinion for the most part and if I give you my opinion I'm going to say this is what I would do I'm not suggesting you do it but if you do do it it's your own liability not mine does that make sense because I'm like a I'm a toughie to a certain extent. Like how we handle things in the likely home, most do not handle that way. Do I think that they should?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah, I do think that they should. But that might be because I think that I'm right all the time. That's true. I do for the most part. I do think I'm right most of the time until proven otherwise. And then I have no problem well that's not true I do have a problem but I still will do it I will still apologize do I like it no do I want to do it heck to the no but I will do it so and if you're not willing to apologize and
Starting point is 00:35:24 you're not willing to admit you're wrong, then don't go this route because it's only for the strong. But listen, when you go to a church and you go to the same church, what happens is there tends to be a lot of gossip. It makes it super easy for gossip to happen. It can be gossip about the leadership. It can be gossip about other friends or other people who attend the church. And it's very dangerous for if you have kids and your kids are present and maybe they have kids too and the older the kids get, the worse that it is because kids that are teenagers are already fighting tooth and nail
Starting point is 00:36:14 to try and figure out if they believe, why they believe, what they believe. And so all you're doing is opening a door to justify potential sin in their lives because innately they want to go off and experience the world. And when you gossip or when they gossip, all you're doing is justifying them to walk away from the church. And that helps them. So, and then if they're younger, what happens is kids remember things. And sometimes they repeat them. Sometimes they'll now treat somebody that you've gossiped about or they've gossiped about differently.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And then they grow up and they will remember it. And then that will help them to walk away from the church. All of it is, so if they are gossiping with you, then you have a duty. And the Bible is very clear to shut it down and tell them to go and talk to the person that they're gossiping about. If they have an issue and if they don't have an issue, but they just want to gossip. That's even worse. I have seen more people leave churches over gossip than anything else. Gossip is a killer and it's a cancer.
Starting point is 00:37:31 And you know, it's so funny because when I see a group of friends leave the church at the same time, I always know they were gossiping. And what's so funny to me is they will leave the church over what they feel is justifiable. And it may not even involve sin. It may just involve that they're bothered by something or they're offended by something. And yet they leave the church, think that they're justified in leaving. But really really in all actuality, as they walk out the door and they take their friend or friends with them, they've sinned. They've sinned. So they're offended and have sinned, and they'll be held accountable for that sin. But they feel like
Starting point is 00:38:17 it's all right. And I just sit there and go, you're offended by either someone or the leadership of the church, yet you're the one sinning, and the leadership of the church or the person that you're offended by has not sinned. Does that make sense, ladies? Yep. And it makes me want to laugh the whole entire time because I'm like, if you don't think that's going to come calling, you are sorely, sorely mistaken.
Starting point is 00:38:39 It will come calling. And people think, well, I have the right to be. And I'm thinking, if you're gossiping you won't I've seen it so many times where people have left in groups not a church split we've never had a church split we've left had people like maybe two couples or three couples I think the highest has been like four couples all leave at the same time they all repeat the same genre and and expect no one to know that they've been gossiping but they all at the same time. They all repeat the same genre and expect no one to know that they've been gossiping, but they all have the same thing that bothers them.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And you know that they've been talking. They've been gossiping. So I literally wanna say, well, yours is sin. Where has the church or the person that you're mad about sinned? They have it, but you're sinning. And then all of them leave together and they're the best friends. They're all the united front. And then
Starting point is 00:39:32 like two, six months down the road, they have no relationship with each other. You know why? Fruit of the poisonous tree. Fruit of the poisonous tree. You want to lose your friends? You want to lose your family? You want to lose your family? Gossip with them. Gossip with them. You will find out that it will turn on you. And it always does. I haven't seen it once not happen where people who have left together have stayed together. They've never stayed together. They've always dispersed, eventually been offended with one another or just the relationship fizzles. Because what was binding you together was a solid relationship and a friendship at the very beginning when you were in the church and it was pure and it was holy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And then sin seeped in and then it made you what you loved and you appreciated. You now find a commonality of gossip and critiquing and criticisms and just unhappiness or offense. And then that very thing that was so pure, sin seeps in, destroys the relationship you have with the church, and then it will eventually destroy the relationship you have with the people that you're gossiping with. It never lasts. And families are like a family unit needs to stick together. So don't allow gossip to infiltrate your family, but hopefully if you stop the gossip between the two families, then you'll be able to stay together. It's very, very dangerous. Biblically speaking, your job is to tell them to go and speak to the one they're offended or have the issue with. And the other thing is, is don't talk with them about it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It'll eventually make you be whatever their problem is. You'll start thinking the same thing or you'll find other fault with other people. It's not good. It is not good. And I have done that with my family, just so you know, not maybe over a church, but when there's been gossip or there's been things that have been wrongly said, I have done it. It's not fun. It's not easy. It's not pleasant. But it has to be done. It has to be done, especially if you want to keep that relationship pure and strong and let nothing come in between it.
Starting point is 00:41:55 But it will cause awkward moments. The air in the room will be sucked out. Everybody will want to go. But it is what it is. You got to do what is right. Speak the truth in love, but I was just saying this to my mom. You can try and, I think I said this to my mom yesterday. It might've been somebody else. No matter how, yeah, it was my mom. No matter how much you say the words in a loving manner, truth oftentimes offends so much that it's irrelevant that it was said in love. It's now an offense. And you can say it as nicely
Starting point is 00:42:33 as you possibly can. And people will, everybody's so concerned about tone all the time, but it's irrelevant about the tone if you tell somebody the truth, because the tone is now not even an issue. It's what was said that's the issue. So people always say it was the tone. And then if the tone is correct, then it's something else, when really the truth is, it's the truth that has taken the offense. Let's see. The last thing I'll say about this, which is so true, oftentimes the reason why people are behaving and saying and doing things a lot of times is because of pride. There's something that has caused them to be prideful in a certain area. And that pride will destroy. I mean, the word is clear.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Pride comes before destruction. And so if they don't want to receive what you have to say, then that's going to be pride. If the offense or the gossip or whatever the issue is with whomever in the church or the church itself, a lot of times it's pride. It's pride because no one will listen to me. No one will validate me. No one will give me what I feel like I deserve.
Starting point is 00:43:54 All of that stems from pride. And so if you can speak the truth and they receive it, and pride is removed, then you have a chance of having a very good relationship. But the word is very clear about being humble for a reason. Most people are not humble. Like I said, I don't like saying I'm sorry. There's a reason I don't like saying I'm sorry, because I have to battle my pride in saying I was wrong. No one likes being wrong. They don't. Some people can overcome being wrong more easily because they're more humble. And I am not that person. I'm not that person.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I am not the most humble of individuals. I've had to learn to be humble because I married a man that has said, that's not acceptable, That's not biblical. And you got to fix that. So I've had to fix it, but it's still not. But the thing is, is you can fix it and you can go to somebody and you can apologize and you can do it biblically correct. Doesn't mean you like it though. Doesn't mean you enjoy it. Doesn't mean you like it. It doesn't mean that you've cornered the market on being humble,
Starting point is 00:45:05 which is something that I have to work on continuously. Because I grew up in a home that that's just not, you never said you were sorry. You never said you were sorry. Everybody just swept it under the rug and kept going. That is a very dangerous thing. That's why I'm grateful that I married the man that I married because he does not allow it.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And when we sweep things under the rug and we don't address them, it creates a pride issue. It's not good. So I'm 56 and I'm still working, but I will not let pride destroy me. So one of the things is, is I succumb to the leadership in my home, being underneath the priest of my home. I submit to that authority and I say, this is not acceptable. But more importantly, the word says I'm not allowed to be like this. So I fight my flesh and my carnality.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I do what I got to do do and every day it gets easier but do i like it no i don't peanut gallery two cents do you agree do you have some people like are you is it easy for you to to like that let down your pride and be humble and say you're sorry with some people and some people know yeah yes that's me yeah some people it's super easy yeah like tom all day long yeah say listen i was wrong i'm sorry whatever and situational like if i feel like people understand like even if we don't agree if you understand my perspective it's very easy for me to be like you know i'm sorry you didn't see it that way or if they but i think it's if they're ready to pounce and they're like, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Yeah, that's hard. She screwed up. I like, you know, I'm like, that's hard for me. That's why I like literally, so you're situational too? No, yeah. You're having to learn it too. Did you grow up in a home where you said, I'm sorry? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Everybody said I was sorry? Yeah. We didn't in my house. Talia? I mean, it's not really an issue for me, but. You're very,
Starting point is 00:47:08 like, you're very submissive though. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you, even if you, like,
Starting point is 00:47:15 don't show me, like, proof that I'm wrong, I still will be like, if I feel that I am wrong, I still will say I'm sorry. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I don't know. Never say you're sorry if you ain't wrong. No, yeah. Yeah sorry like yeah I don't know never say you're sorry if you ain't wrong no yeah yeah because that's a lie always say you're sorry if you're like I literally will not tell somebody I'm sorry if I know that I'm not because I don't want to lie about it and listen I was on the verge of a breakup with Tom because he thought one thing and if I would have said I was sorry then he would have been like okay all is right but I told him I'm like I'm not telling you I'm sorry I know it'll make it right and then everything will be fine but I'm not doing it because I'm not lying I'm not gonna lie for us
Starting point is 00:47:56 to be okay it's not happening I will never apologize just to get things passed by you know some people will just do it so that it brings peace to the home. And all you're doing is lying and enabling bad behavior. Or some people will do it because like, if they don't, the ramifications of not saying I'm sorry, is like, you got a beast on your hands. Have the beast, right? It's better to face the beast and deal with the nastiness of that individual than to lie to them so that they keep getting their way keep getting their way and things like not good you're lying and you'll be accountable for not being honest is Vanessa it's easy for you to say you're sorry isn't it it is I will say I grew up in a home very similar to you where
Starting point is 00:48:43 everything was just thrown under the rug or swept under the rug. Yeah. And I just I knew moving forward I didn't want to live like that because I I knew what it felt like to live in that type of environment. And I knew moving forward that I would change that for me for myself. Yeah. I didn't want to change it. I liked it. I was totally fine with that.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Just keep sweeping it under the rug. I just never knew where I stood with with anybody yeah but i didn't care whether where i hated that oh really yeah i hated it i was totally fine i don't know where i stood with anybody and so i knew moving forward that i just i didn't want that to be my story so but you're a sensitive soul yeah true very true yeah i don't really care i'm fine with whatever love me hate me leave me i know that's what makes you so special and unique it does that's oh that's special it's not that i don't care about the people but i'm like there's nothing i can do to change it so i'm like if i can't change it and i know i can't change it i ain't sweating it i know know, but that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:46 People come and go, ebb and flow. Nobody can do that though. Yeah, they can. Well, they can, but like it's not like you're by nature just like whatever, move on. Like I wish I could teach somebody how to do that. Like people that get so offended by every single thing. Like how can I make them have like a little bit of hope where they're just like, okay, let's just. Yeah, but here's the thing. A little bit of hope goes a're just like, okay, let's just. Yeah. But here's the thing. A little bit of hope goes a long way.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And this is true. Okay. Another problem is, is being like this to a certain extent. Yeah. There's a healthy side to it. Right. But the other part about it is, is having to learn not to speak to other people or treat other people the way that nothing bothers you.
Starting point is 00:50:26 It's been very difficult for me because I don't get offended hardly at all. Or if I get irritated by something, like it'll be momentary. And then I'm like, I don't care. You know, like if, and Heather's the same way. Like there are things like you can say to Heather and she will get offended or bothered by them, right? But internally, she works it out in her mind like I do. We internally work it out pretty dang quickly
Starting point is 00:50:53 where we're like, whatever, who cares, okay? Whereas other people internalize it. The problem is, is with people like us, we say what we're thinking and we think other people are going to resolve it the way we resolve it and they don't right which is not good because you have to be sensitive to other people yeah you do how they feel and that's very difficult when people don't ebb and flow with like, if they leave,
Starting point is 00:51:26 they leave. If they stay, they stay. I'm okay with either. Cause I know that if I didn't do anything, then I'm okay. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:34 I do. Rationalize all that. Other people don't rationalize. I know. I know. But that makes you bad on one end. Your strength is also a weakness. I say all the time,
Starting point is 00:51:45 your greatest strengths are off. Your strength is also a weakness. I say all the time. I know. Your greatest strengths are also your greatest weaknesses. Yeah. And you have to learn that balance. There is that balance. I don't know. It's coming up. 100%.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Sarah, go for it. I'm very similar to where my family swept everything under the rug. And I'm like. Did they say they were sorry, though? No.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Hardly ever? I like my dad said sorry twice in my whole life. I never remember my parents ever saying sorry. But now my sisters and I, I think we've gone to the point where if we have conflict or whatever, we will apologize. Yeah. But I'm working through a lot of things that are like you're hitting some nerves right now so i don't know i won't say too much it's tough man like even my mom my mom didn't hardly ever say i was sorry i don't even remember my mom saying she
Starting point is 00:52:39 was sorry but there's reasons because my mom really never did anything. Yeah. Not that she's perfect, but she didn't really do a lot to have to say she was sorry for. There's some people in life that are just, not that they're perfect, but they just don't, they don't do a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Like they're just not so out there and people's like, I'm a lot, I'm out there. You know? And my mom, she's like a wallflower. Like she doesn't say a lot. She doesn't do a lot. Now she does more so than, but she didn't say a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:16 She didn't do a lot. She just was like, go with the flow. So she didn't have a lot to apologize for. So in this case, my mom didn't really need to. My dad all the time needed to. He didn't. Yeah. So she didn't have a lot to apologize for. So in this case, my mom didn't really need to. My dad all the time needed to. He didn't. Yeah. And us as kids absolutely had a lot of reasons to apologize,
Starting point is 00:53:33 mostly to my mother, and never did. Okay. She never required it, though, either. Mm-hmm. She's just an easy person, which probably was not good because the healthier thing would have been to demand an apology. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:47 So, yeah, because it teaches you it's our job to teach our kids. Like that's what Tom's demanded it. Like Tom's like, we're addressing it. We're taking care of it. And somebody's apologizing. Yeah. Yeah. Usually if we're having to address something, it's usually me that has to apologize because he has no problem.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Like he's super humble. And even Tom, like even like Tracy, like you and me, you say it's situational. Yeah. With Tom, it's never situational. Okay. Like he's such a great example of it is irrelevant if the person is going to gloat and be so happy
Starting point is 00:54:23 that they're going to have to hear and i'm sorry for him it don't bother him a bit still yeah it's like me it's it's on me i own that it's like i'm like it's on me but i don't want to do it it's like i'm doing it like to be so like easy which you probably can relate like it's so healthy see me, that's super great for me to see. And it makes it easier for me. But it's still hard. Yeah. Still hard from a person who never really said they were sorry. Always had an excuse.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Right. There was always a reason why. Yep, same. So the sorry didn't need to be said. Right. And it's not a good place and it is not the right place to live. Nope. It is not healthy to be like that. It's not. Spiritually speaking, it isn't even biblically correct. It's not a good place and it is not the right place to live. Nope. It is not healthy to be like that.
Starting point is 00:55:05 It's not. Spiritually speaking, it isn't even biblically correct. It's not. To live like that. And there's a lot of people who are like me. I mean, even you to a certain extent, but you probably say you're sorry more easily than I say I'm sorry. But I do it a lot. I still say I'm sorry a lot. But it's not fun.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It's not fun. It's not fun. It's not. I actually hate it. But I do it. I don't like it. Yeah. Especially if I know the person loves it while I'm doing it.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah. Yeah. But I do it. But I do it. I do it. I hate it. it it's so funny i'm learning yeah we all are learning we all have not arrived okay the next question the last few podcasts sparked this question for me because it's not hellbound per se but can lead to sin eventually if not stopped you don't have to add these into the question,
Starting point is 00:56:08 but I wanted to give some examples such as inappropriate joking, feeling excluded and taking yourself away from a godly, Holy Spirit-led environment, wondering why others and not them, speaking negatively about tithing and not being blessed immediately. Not all hellbound, but these thoughts can lead to sin. And you are absolutely correct, whoever wrote this question. What we're going to do is we're gonna um we're gonna break down each specific one that you said because each of these things do lead to sin and they're such a great topic and um people leave churches relationships uh friendships uh marriages, over some of what we're going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But I have seen people lose family and walk away from churches specifically because of the different examples you put down. And it's so funny. The people who behave like this and do the things that you gave, they, and so many times they think they're spiritual giants. Sarah's face went, they do. It is so funny to me how some of these people
Starting point is 00:57:21 that do these things truthfully believe they're spiritual giants. And I'm thinking to myself, how can you be a spiritual giant if the words that you say, say otherwise? You can't be. Let's look at Paul said in 1 Corinthians 3 too. I fed you with milk and not with solid food for until now you were not able to receive it. And even now you are still not able. Ouchie mama. Yeah. That one hurts. If that's you and you're one of these things that this question listed as an example, if you are one of these things that this question listed as an example, if you are one of these things, you're no spiritual giant, and you're still on milk.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So fix it. Easy fix. Okay, inappropriate joking. I see this a lot. It is not good. And we've talked about this before, but we'll address it again. Inappropriate joking.
Starting point is 00:58:36 As a believer, when others are standing around you and they hear you say the things that you say, you show how spiritually minded you are, you ruin your witness, and then on top of that, if there's a believer who is very immature in their walk, you are now showing them that they can do the same exact thing. The problem is, is that will potentially weed them out and take them out of Christianity because a little leaven leavens the whole lump. So just remember what you say, who you say it to, and who you are around will either destroy
Starting point is 00:59:12 your witness, it'll take out another young believer potentially, or you'll tell a believer that they can make the same compromising, live the same compromising lifestyle that you do. And it may not remove them out of their walk with God, but what it will do is it will make others, or it will ruin the witness of those people too, along with yourself. Look at Ephesians 5.4. It says, neither filthiness, this is talking about your mouth, the tongue. Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. Okay, it doesn't say you're going to go to hell for any of those things, but it says you're not supposed to do them. So if it says that you're not supposed to do it, but there's no ramification of going to hell,
Starting point is 01:00:07 should we still do it? No, we shouldn't do it because it clearly says in the word not to do it. But a lot of times people will only do the things that scare them to death and will keep them out of hell. The reason it says not to do that is because out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. And whatever is going on in here is coming out of your mouth and if it is something that's inappropriate um and we know when we've gone too far with joking we know when it's cross the line um
Starting point is 01:00:39 we know if we're being if we're sensing don't don't say that. And we still do. You're not supposed to do that. And the more you're in tune and the more that you fellowship with the Holy Spirit, if you want to wreck your relationship, as far as if you want to cause yourself to have, like, it's like having a friend. If you went out with your friend and you knew that your close friend had issues with certain things that you knew about them and you constantly tease them about them or you constantly share those things with other people and the whole entire time they kept saying, don't say that, don't say that, don't do that, don't do that. Eventually that relationship is going to be ruined because you don't honor or respect what that friend is asking you to do. How is that any different than the Holy Spirit? Boom, right? Yes, absolutely. It's no different. Yeah. You want to ruin your
Starting point is 01:01:30 relationship, then do what you've been told not to do because all you show is a sign of disrespect and no honor, no honoring of what the Holy Spirit's asking you to do. Anybody want to add anything to that? That's good. Okay. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Okay. But you said that's good. Did anybody say anything else? Sometimes I can't hear, but I hear somebody say something. Okay. We're tracking with you. Keep tracking. Keep picking up when I'm putting it. We are. Okay. All right. If you're feeling, the next one is feeling excluded and taking yourself away from a godly, Holy Spirit-led environment.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Now, this is, I'm going to have, I will say this because the four people in the peanut gallery, well, when I give this example, they're going to be like, oh my gosh, this is so true. So feeling excluded and taking yourself away from a godly holy spirit led environment okay first i would say why are you being excluded because a lot of times you're excluded because you're weird correct you're weird as crap nobody wants to be around somebody who's so off beat that they can't fit in to even the most like your your uh
Starting point is 01:02:49 ladies group right your hub group that you have at your Vanessa's house that has a large variety of different personalities right oh yeah some people make it some people don't but even the wackiest you know like zany like people oftentimes can deal with it uh like sarah do you know what i'm saying yeah even the most out there in personalities and i don't mean weirdos no i'm just meaning they're like there are some people that walk in the room and they're like, Logan, Logan is different. Not in a bad way. But she has a cider.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Anybody who's eating her placenta is not right. They're not right. Okay. But even they can fit in. Yeah. Because they know how to socially fit in. Yeah. Like we all have our quirkiness.
Starting point is 01:03:46 But when you're so quirky and weird, you're not going to fit in. We all have our quirkiness, but when you're so quirky and weird, you're not going to fit in. So how about you learn to conform slightly to the people that are around you so you don't make them feel so uncomfortable with you being there? Weirdos is not who I'm talking about. I'm talking about people who are unkind and demeaning when they speak or have something to say. If you're like that, if your words and actions are not kind or like you take every opportunity to make somebody feel less about themselves or talk down to them, okay, you're not gonna fit in. You're, I mean, that's not going to work.
Starting point is 01:04:26 So for me, feeling excluded. Are you excluded because you don't know how to behave? You don't know how to talk to people nicely? You're a passive aggressive? Got to love the passive aggressive. Got to love it. I love dealing with people who have an agenda behind what they say or the hunters.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Yeah. God forbid you hint to me. Don't hint to me. Please don't. Please don't. I got big shoulders. I can handle it. Just come out and say in an appropriate manner,
Starting point is 01:04:57 in a respectful way, what you feel and what you think you're going to hint to me. Guess what? You're going to get back from me. Sounds good. That's all you're going to, if i ever respond to you it sounds good that means i am not enabling that crazy just just say what you gotta say yeah for me just say what you gotta not not every time if i say sounds good no now i'm like and now we're all like if you have an agenda behind something,
Starting point is 01:05:30 and I know that there's an agenda, and you know there's an agenda, and I reply with sounds good, it means I'm not partaking. I'm not participating. Just let's talk. But I don't like that. So passive-aggressive. And people,'t like that. So passive aggressive. And people, just like I grew up in a no, I'm sorry household, there's people who grow up in passive aggressive households. You got to learn not to live like that.
Starting point is 01:05:55 That is not a good way to live. And people don't like it. Forceful aggressive. Got to love the forceful aggressive. I've learned forceful aggressive does not work either. Nobody wants to be around that either. Not that I've ever had a problem having friends, but I have been a bit much for some at different times in life.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And have I lost or have I not had friends? I've always had plenty of friends. But have I limited in the number of friends that I could have had because of being forceful, aggressive? Probably. Absolutely. Do I mind? No.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I'd be lying if I said I did. No, I don't. But at the same time, doesn't make it right at all. Doesn't make it right. So you still can't behave like that, even though it doesn't matter to you. Because there are some people who are forceful, aggressive, and it does matter to them. Both of them are wrong. It doesn't matter. Um, but have you guys, let me just ask this because of your group. Isn't it funny how there'll be people who leave your group and they'll make it all that the group was not,
Starting point is 01:07:08 they're excluding themselves and they don't fit into the group, but it's the group's fault. Correct? Correct. I see this in church all the time. Yeah. And your group, you just had like 40 people at your house.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So there have been people who have come and gone, correct? I think it was 30. Yeah, we had 29 women and 33 kids but the week before that wasn't it 40 if you include all the kids yes okay so okay we'll not include the kids so 30 kids 30 people right so i am sure there are people who don't come to your group because they're excluded they're not like that's a clique only the popular people or whatever. And I know in that group there ain't popular people in there, so that's a lie.
Starting point is 01:07:49 But they'll say that. But they'll say that to justify them being excluded. It's sad. I don't know. It is. It's really sad. But it's really them. I know.
Starting point is 01:08:07 And like Pastor Tom says a lot on Sundays, if you bounce from church to church and group to group and somebody else is always the problem and it's the same problem, maybe look back at yourself and see, am I? Most of the time, nobody does. And he says it way meaner than that. Listen, people leave churches, not just this one. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I know most of the churches in the area.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And people bounce around church to church to church to church. They do. The most they'll stay is maybe three years. Three, if you're lucky, four. A lot of people don't go past the fourth year because they'll start getting very comfortable. Like you can have people who've been healed. You can have people who've been delivered. You can have people who've been financially blessed.
Starting point is 01:08:55 You can have people who have a deeper, their marriage is better. They have an incredible walk with God. Like they've never had before since they've attended your church. And they will walk out for the stupidest, most dumbest reasons on the face of the earth. And all of it is pride. No one will listen to me. Nobody respects what I have to say. It's like if the church did that, and I'm talking about a church of even 40 people, it'd be schizophrenic. It would be.
Starting point is 01:09:28 I know. Because you think you can satisfy. It's just like when Tom said a couple weeks, like a month ago, how many of you are freezing in here? Loads of hands go up. And how many of you guys are super comfortable that the temperature is perfect for you?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Loads of hands go up. How do you satisfy all those people hands go up yep how do you satisfy all those people i know how do you satisfy those people it's like the sound how many of you think the sound is too loud you'll have loads of people who rams and then you'll say how many of you think that could be louder loads of hands go up it needs to be louder because i can bear i mean you will never ever ever satisfy people So what you do is you try and get in there as best as you can. But the facts of the matter are you will never please everybody. People will leave not because God's told them to leave, but because that's what they want to do.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And they'll have every excuse in the book and it will be justified all day long, but they're still wrong. Yep. There's nothing you can do about it. It's just like you guys with the group, your group is large. Your group is the average church. Yeah. Seriously.
Starting point is 01:10:38 An average church is 30 to 40 people and their hub group is that size. A lot of our hub groups are that size. Yeah. It's the size of a church. Um, you will never, people will come and go all day long because you'll never satisfy all those people. It's not possible. And you just have to be okay with, I can't satisfy everybody.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I can only do the best that I can. And that's all there is. You love them as they go and you pray for them that they'll come back. And that's what we do here at this church. If people leave, we pray for them, especially if it's not because God's told them to go. But you got to let them go. And you can't hold it against them. Same thing. If somebody feels excluded, that's on them. But there's nothing you can do about that. But they'll lead to sin because the more you're excluded, the more you separate yourself and do not forsake the assembling of yourself. It's a dangerous thing.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Very dangerous. That will lead to sin. Yep, it will. Wondering why others and not them. How many of us, and I am 10 minutes over, I'm going to go as fast as I can. How many of us always are like, why does that happen to them and not me? Why does all that good stuff happen to them?
Starting point is 01:11:39 And I'm the same. No, you're not the same. Because if you were, it wouldn't be happening to just them. It would be happening to you too. That's the truth. Because if you were, it wouldn't be happening to just them. It would be happening to you too. That's the truth. What? You're like, no, you're not the same. The end.
Starting point is 01:11:51 The end. You can stop there. You can't be. Biblically speaking, you can't be the same. Because God is not, that's not God's covenant. That's not God's law. The law is that if you do these things, this is what comes your way. If you don't do these things, guess what? You ain't getting squat and you
Starting point is 01:12:09 better not cry about it because you have no rights to cry about it. Quit looking at what is happening for everybody else and start focusing on yourself. And those things will come your way because you'll get yourself right. You stay that same ugliness inside, always being jealous of what other people have, coveting whatever people, or the poor woe is me mentality, it'll get you nowhere. Right. Get you nowhere.
Starting point is 01:12:35 But so many people are always looking. There have been people like, why do they have that? Why did they get a raise? I work at the same place they do. They got the raise and I didn't get the raise. Well, are they tithing and you're not? Probably.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Are they doing their job in excellence and you're barely doing enough to get by? Right. There it is. Probably. Yep. I mean, there's rules. Right. Like, there are biblical principles. Probably. Yep. I mean, there's rules. Right. Like, they're biblical principles.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Right. And you sit there and go, well, I'm a Christian, so all of it should be the same. No way. It doesn't work like that. God's not fair. Oh, God is very fair. God is very fair. It's very fair.
Starting point is 01:13:18 How he has set things up and designed things for each and every single one of us is so that each of us can get to the highest level possible for wherever we're at. It's do we follow and apply what the principles are? If we do not, then we will stay the same or we'll go backwards. And all the while, some will blame other people instead of ultimately looking at themselves in the mirror. The best thing you could ever do for yourself,
Starting point is 01:13:43 I know I've been there, had to do it, is look in the mirror and say, it could ever do for yourself i know i've been there had to do it is look in the mirror and say it's me it's on me because as soon as you look at the me in the mirror and say what do i got to do to fix me that's when you start going up until then it's not happening it's just not happening um are the oh why does everybody compliment them and never compliment me? I want to throw up. I want to throw up. People in leadership deal with this a lot. People in leadership look at what other people in leadership get,
Starting point is 01:14:19 and they wonder, why do people always say how good they are or compliment them on how well they spoke or how well they sung or whatever? And I'm just telling you, you keep wanting that, you keep desiring it, it's never going to happen. God's doing what is best for you, which is to not let that happen for you. Because if you count on what other people say about you to make you feel of value, guess what's going to happen? You're going to, again, it's just like what I said on Wednesday, you do not want to believe what people have to say about you, because then you'll have to believe
Starting point is 01:14:57 the negative that people say about you. And you don't want that either. Why don't you just be secure in who you are in Christ? Know that he's called you to do what he's called you to do. You're saying what he wants you to say. It'll land on who it lands. And the people who don't like it, they won't like it. But you've been obedient. You're doing what God's called you to do. And that's all that matters. If you're pleasing him, that's all that matters. You don't need to worry about anybody else. It doesn't matter. When you get there, you might get the compliments. Until then, and I'll be honest with you, you might not want the compliments because the negatives come with it. And I will say ministry is bittersweet. It is bittersweet. The sweetness is far better than the bitter, and it's far more, but the bitter's
Starting point is 01:15:47 rough. And if you can't handle it, don't cook in the kitchen. It'll make you want to run. So let's see. Let's see. Let me keep going. I made a list of those things. I'm going to keep going past them. Next one, speaking negatively about tithing and not being blessed immediately. That might be why everything happens for somebody else. This was one of the other examples. Maybe that's why it's not happening for them. Because if you speak negatively about life and death is held in the tongue and those who eat its fruit, I mean, hello, you'll get the results of what you're doing. So I made a list.
Starting point is 01:16:29 If you want to be blessed, give. And I'm going to give you a list of ways you can give. Give of your time. Give of your finances. Give of your talents. And the whole entire time you're doing that, don't complain. Because it's exactly like what you said. Remember, last on Wednesday, she said that we are to be a joyful giver. But what's the other word that you use? Because it's another term that's a cheerful giver. Okay, because the word says joyful and
Starting point is 01:16:56 cheerful giver. So you can't complain. If you're giving of your tithe and offering, shut your mouth, give it joyfully, and see the results. If you're giving of your time, and offering, shut your mouth, give it joyfully, and see the results. If you're giving of your time, if God, if you volunteered for a position in the church or outside of the church, you volunteered your time to bless somebody, maybe it's an elderly person and you're going there and you're helping them throughout the day, whatever their need is or whatever. Okay, maybe you volunteered to clean somebody's home because you have a cleaning business and so you're planting that seed to the lord i will clean for free for these people because i know in turn god you're going to bless me with more business okay
Starting point is 01:17:37 while you're cleaning that person's house don't complain about cleaning that person's house. Amen. I mean, that seems logical to me, but to so many people, it's not. So let me advise you, shut your mouth. If you are volunteering in the church, and even if it's like, if you're volunteering in the kids ministry and you have a kid that goes to the kids ministry and you don't want to volunteer in there, if you use it, you serve it. Okay. Not everybody's going to work. And, you know, it's so funny to me.
Starting point is 01:18:12 A lot of times the people who don't want to serve in kids ministry and they use it because they have a kid, their kid's the most horrible one in there. But they don't want to serve. I understand why you don't want to serve. Because you created a monster. You don't want to go in there. And now you want everybody else to go in there and serve your monster. We don't. So you're going to have to pay your time.
Starting point is 01:18:34 You created that mess. You're going in there too. But I'm just saying, if you have to serve in kids ministry, and you have a kid in there, we're going to use this example. Use that time to die to your flesh, serve, be happy, be joyful, minister to those kids. Super important, right? If you, let's see, if you're a greeter and somebody is rude and nasty to you as they're coming in, don't let that affect your rest of your time as you're greeting. Overcome and just be cheerful and joyful through the whole entire process.
Starting point is 01:19:07 People are going to tick you off. Believe me, I know. It happens. You've committed to do something. And you've committed to serve the Lord. I mean, serve and give of your time. So do it in honor to him. And don't let how other people treat you or respond to you be the dictate
Starting point is 01:19:25 dictating force behind that um and give of your talents if you can sing if you can uh make a good meal if you can um like sarah's phenomenal director she directs on sund mornings. She's one of our directors for our Sunday morning service. Listen, if you serve in the media department, that's your church. Like we have over, we've, we had over 600 people watching and you and the media department, you need to do it in excellence. You need to do it as unto the Lord. You need to submit to the authorities that have been put before you. You need to give of your time or your talent. That talent is, that's a huge church that you actually are facilitating. We do the ones of the people inside the building and then you are ministering and like the ones that get saved, that's held to your account. That's huge. You have a 600-member church.
Starting point is 01:20:26 If you're doing that camera, you are doing that to 600 people. Sarah's directing to 600 people so that they can see the best church service or experience it in their living room. That is huge. If you know how to cook and if you know how to do these things, you should be giving of your time or you should be giving of your talents. Don't sit in a seat so that you can be fed. Why don't you feed others as well? Because there are lots of people who need it. If you're a great cook, get the heck
Starting point is 01:20:56 back there in the hospitality and start feeding people. Bless them with your talents and your skills. You wonder why things are happening for everybody else and not you? It's because you're sitting on your hands and you're doing absolutely nothing for the kingdom. Stand up, start operating in your gifts, talents, give of your finances. And I tell you radically overnight, everything in your home will change from your kids to your finances to you. You will not look the same. You will not be the same. You will be different.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And people will be like, what the heck happened to her? Or what the heck happened to him? It's because you've grabbed a hold of what the word of God says. And you're taking it by storm. When you go into a battle, you don't like tiptoe through the tulips. You take it by force. And that's spiritually what we're supposed to do daily
Starting point is 01:21:53 in our walks with God. We don't fight against little fairies. We fight against spiritual principalities and you got to take it. You got to take back your home. You got to take back your finances and you got to take back your talents and you got to use them for You got to take back your home. You got to take back your finances. And you got to take back your talents. And you got to use them for him instead of the world.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Amen? Amen. Has anybody got anything else to add or to say? Because we are 21 minutes over. That was so good. God bless. That was a mic drop. Mic drop.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So does that mean I don't lean anybody to the Lord today? I mean, if they came here for that. I can't afford for any of you to die and go straight to hell over the weekend. Speed edition. Or to Wednesday. Okay, speed edition. But that's that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Okay. So you guys have nothing to say? No, that was so good. All right. Good job. I just wanted to add to that. Yeah, that was good. God bless, Vanessa.
Starting point is 01:22:39 You're getting ready to go eat. I know. She's like, hurry up. She's just ready to go. I don't really have anything to add. You're 20 minutes over. Jeff's waiting on me. All right. Jeff's waiting on's like, hurry up. She's just ready to go. I don't really have anything to add. You're 20 minutes over. Jeff's waiting on me. Jeff's waiting on me. Just shut up. He said, don't make my
Starting point is 01:22:49 wife late. Yep, he did. What time do you have to be there, Vanessa? 5.30. We got time. We got plenty of time. Okay. I'm going to hold her. Text him, hold him. That's good. Let's pray. Seriously, if you need the Lord and you are not saved,
Starting point is 01:23:06 or maybe you have been saved, listen. I know if you've been saved, the Holy Spirit is tugging on your heart. He's been tugging on your heart. He's been trying to melt that hard shell, and you know he is. Or maybe you walked away and you're like, yeah, not me. It's not happening for me. Eventually of will, the more you open yourself up to him or for me, like it would be just a song on the radio
Starting point is 01:23:35 and I'd be like, eh, and I'd flip the station. Eventually the songs as they played, I'd be like, not as hard. It's like, cause that's what Jesus is. He's such a gentleman. And what he does is he just waits for the right moment. He just keeps trying to draw you in and draw you back. Because he wants relationship with you.
Starting point is 01:24:01 The thing is, is we think, we think he thinks we need him. But in all actuality, God just wants us. He wants that relationship with us. The Holy Spirit and Jesus, they're like, I want you. I created you. You're my being. I don't need you. I want you. And so that's very powerful. All the while we have our arms and we resist him. But as he draws us in so sweetly, so kindly, and some of you know what I'm talking about, we become more softer and softer. And God, each and every single one of us, God has either made you a very good speaker so you can share the gospel and win people to the Lord. He's given you through being able to be an encourager or just simply through the food.
Starting point is 01:25:13 I mean, listen, no one greater has been won by feeding their belly. I mean, that's such a great skill set to be able to cook and share the gospel with people through just simply feeding them. And so every single one of us has been given a gift and a talent and they all should be used for him. And maybe at one time you were, and it's not, you're not receptive to it, but God will keep coming after you. And maybe you are within the sound of my voice and you totally get what I'm saying. Jesus is longing for you to come home and he is longing for you to use your skill set
Starting point is 01:25:52 that he has blessed you with for him so that others get the same thing or return to the fold or get a new life in him. And you will be able to hold that to your account when you go to heaven, that you took others with you. If you don't know him today, I encourage you strongly, strongly to make that decision. Because he so longingly wants you and desires to have a relationship with you. It'll be like no relationship you've ever had in your whole entire life. It is the best thing going.
Starting point is 01:26:23 So if you would love this, say this prayer with me. It's super simple, it's super fast, it's super easy, and it's not complicated. Heavenly Father, I come to you right now. I thank you, Father, for dying on the cross. I thank you for dying for my sins, every single one of them. I thank you because of that.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Heaven can be mine. I ask you to forgive me of my sins. Wash me clean. Make me new. And from now on, whatever you say to do, I will do. Whatever you tell me to go, I will go. Whatever you tell me not to do, I will not do. Whatever you say to go, I will go. Whatever you tell me not to do, I will not do. Whatever you say to do, I will do.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I will use my gifts and talents for you. I thank you for giving them to me and blessing me. And from this moment on, I will live for you forever. You are the Lord of my life. I thank you. I praise you. In Jesus' name we pray, Amen. If you said that prayer, you are golden. Listen, you can be taken out tomorrow and you're going to heaven. It's that
Starting point is 01:27:32 simple. It's not going to happen because, listen, once you get saved, you have a hedge of protection around you. And Genesis, it tells you that you will live to 120 years. Psalm 91 says, long life will I give you. So you ain't going nowhere. You got plenty to do. Live for him. Have a great weekend. I will see you on Wednesday. And if you're in the area or you come to this church,
Starting point is 01:27:56 I will see you Sunday. Be blessed. Amen. Jesus name. See you Sunday. Bye. Real talk. Real talk. See you Sunday. Bye.

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