The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E45 | 07-05-2024
Episode Date: July 5, 2024The Hope Hotline | S02-E45 | 07-05-2024...
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Welcome to the Hope Hotline and I am hoping you had a great 4th of July.
I know we did.
It was, I have to tell you, I think I told Tracy this, and I think I told Vanessa.
I invited myself to Vanessa's, which was really only her family.
True.
So I invaded the four of them.
But I didn't know Tracy was invading them, too.
I was.
So it worked out really well for me.
We did.
We all invaded Vanessa's vacation.
What?
We all invaded Vanessa's vacation.
Yeah, I was only going to go and hang out with them,
which I don't know if I told you that.
I was only going to go and hang out with you guys at night.
Yeah,
that's what we thought.
And I was going to let
like Norma and Talia
go and hang out with you
during the day.
Right.
But then,
but then I like
had made arrangements
with some,
some people.
And so I was like,
well,
we're going to,
I guess we're going to do
all day then
instead of just night,
which they were all in for.
But then that meant that those two are ready and up for anything all the time.
Thanks.
Thank God.
But I almost didn't come during the day.
I know.
I know.
Aren't you so glad you did?
I was going to let everybody else go and then me come back.
I know.
But I am so glad I did.
I'm so glad you did too.
We're a good team.
I had work to do.
You know, I was telling Heather, I was like, I told Heather this morning,
I was like, I literally was so glad that I did not,
that I never take a day like that.
You know.
Where I do absolutely nothing.
I know.
I don't know if any of you guys are like that, and you can relate,
but I did nothing.
When Norma, when she found out when Heather found
out I was in the pool all day she's like you went in a pool same I was so shocked she was I was in a
pool and a bathing suit yeah and a bathing suit which this body has not seen a bathing suit
in a long time you did well I I didn't look that great but I look far better than I have been.
So as ashamed as I was, I was far less ashamed.
I could actually be in it and be like, just get me to the water.
And not feel like Shamu was entering into the water.
I just thought, a dolphin.
A dolphin's going into the water.
But that was so much fun yesterday.
I hope everybody had a good time.
See, a lot of people are like me,
and you kind of just don't do anything with anybody on Fourth of July.
Then there's some people that big, huge,
like usually it's my kids, my family,
and then their friends and their family come over, which is fun.
And my siblings, like I said.
But this was totally different for me then it's so
fun it was fun it was a great time i never did again norma's already planning it i think you
know i think norma is already like gonna arrange for the the hotel room oh i am i'm ready but what
what we did is i don't even know how did you come up with that idea uh we might not should tell you
because the place was packed it was packed but. But Jeff was like, I want to see
fireworks, but I also don't want to be in a crowd
and be sweaty. So he's
like, let's just get a room at the Sun Seeker.
And then he upgraded to a suite
which had
the balcony and the seating
and it just literally just came
like the plans were overnight.
We just did them and we're like from
one day to another and we're like, let's just do it.
Which I don't think the people on the boardwalk really appreciated us from up in the balcony.
Listen, I became a new person last night.
My name is now Sarah.
Sorry, Sarah.
Yeah, she used your name.
I used your name.
She dropped your name, Sarah.
If I had a nickel for every time someone used my name.
She's so easy.
She's there.
It's so funny.
But it was a lot of fun.
So hopefully if you are like me and you don't gather with a lot of people.
Do it.
Do it.
Yeah.
Because I'm usually, it's usually like always the Dexters because they're like our kids.
Yeah, and they're right there.
Which is fun.
We have such a great time.
But I usually am working all day long.
Right.
And it was really nice not to.
I know.
It is.
God bless.
I know.
I have a lot of catching up to do, but it was worth it.
Worth it, yeah.
Totally worth it.
Exactly.
So I was going to say, Tracy, what did you do?
But I know what you did.
Vanessa and I had so much fun.
Oh, my gosh.. Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh. I love you.
That is so rude.
Oh my gosh Tracy. I freaking love you. So I got this picture of Vanessa
and she said I'm okay with a smiley
face. Okay that's from
Vanessa being in the pool.
You look at her
chest how red it is.
What were you trying to cool your face off?
When I saw that picture, I died.
She did.
The heat radiating off of me was like next level.
It was.
I needed to cool down.
It was.
Was that paper towel or toilet paper?
Paper towel.
Oh, my gosh.
The thing underneath it, I'm okay.
When you came through the text, I died.
What are you doing?
Is that for your lips?
Is that a nice pack?
I woke up this morning and my lips were like 17 times bigger than they needed to be.
And it just felt, I couldn't even talk.
And I still bothered.
So I sent her that this morning and said, I'm okay with a smiley face.
Oh my gosh.
I should have sent a picture of you guys with my eyes.
You should have. I became a with a smiley face. Oh my gosh. I should have sent a picture of you guys with my eyes. You should have.
I became a new, let's see.
Race?
What is it?
A new...
Race?
Race.
Thank you.
I couldn't hear you.
Am I turned up?
I can't hear anything.
How's that?
Better?
No, I can't hear nothing.
Better?
Still hear nothing.
Can you hear me now?
Maybe you're not plugged in. Do you hear anything at all? No. Okay. Did I unplug. Better? Mm-mm. Still hear nothing. Can you hear me now? Maybe you're not plugged in.
Do you hear anything at all?
No.
Okay.
Did I unplug?
Get your butt over there.
Push it in.
Try it now.
Hold on.
Try it now.
Hey, hey, hey.
Oh, I can hear.
It was me.
Tell you it's so soft.
It's not you.
It's me.
Yeah, I became a new race this morning.
My eyes were closed shut.
They were squinty.
I know.
Which, listen.
He's a pitcher.
That's a very beautiful race, but not on me.
Does not fit me at all.
It's not attractive.
But I woke up and I'm like, who are you?
My eyes were so swollen.
Okay, so do you have anything else
no that's all I got for today
I didn't get approval for anything else
but we did have
we did have a lot of videos
no
this is the only thing I got approved
or asked for
I don't know Jer shook it pretty well
I mean we had a dance party and that's for sure.
Yeah.
Poor Emma saw a whole other side to it.
I don't think Emma will be spiritually okay ever again.
I literally am going to have, I told them,
I'm doing about a hundred Hail Marys over all of them.
We did have that video too.
It was great.
It was not good.
Listen, we had fun.
Our balcony was the most fun.
My day.
Good singing.
Great singing.
And for clarification,
Puerto Ricans are Americans.
Oh my gosh.
Just for the record.
That's the one you need to play.
It was so perfect.
Tommy doesn't think that Puerto Ricans have a Fourth of July.
So he asked Vanessa who is his great.
I mean, you're like a ball of yarn to my son.
He likes to just toy with you.
Yes, he does.
Yes.
Yes.
Uh-huh.
In a perfect world, though, I believe, and he watches this sometime in a perfect world.
Vanessa would be 20,
22,
not married with two children and he'd be asking her out.
Facts.
I really believe that.
She's so cute.
What do you expect? I know.
Yeah,
exactly.
Wow. Yeah. Sorry, Tal sweetest girl I've ever seen. Exactly. Wow.
Sorry, Talia.
You're also up there.
You're also up there.
I'd marry Vanessa right now, and I would be happy to go gay.
Oh, my gosh.
There we go.
That's good to know, Norma.
That's good to know.
I'm on a different level this week.
This week has been interesting.
On so many, yeah, in so many ways.
In so many ways.
Not horrible, but.
I'm in a weird mental state.
Whatevs.
Sarah, give us a lowdown, baby.
Oh, yes.
Can I plead the fifth?
Do I really have to share?
I didn't.
You plead the fifth?
I did nothing.
That's me normally.
I walked to the end of my driveway at one point Do I really have to share? I didn't. You plead the fifth? I did nothing. That's me normally.
I walked to the end of my driveway at one point because I was falling asleep and I was like, someone is literally lighting off fireworks in the lot next door.
It sounded like they were right up against my bedroom, but they weren't.
They were all the way down the street and they were putting on quite a show.
So I stood there for about two minutes.
Watched.
Watched.
Went inside.
Asked Derek, hey, did you go look outside there?
I asked him about four times.
He didn't hear me.
So I just turned around and went to bed.
What time was that?
What time did you go to bed?
I don't know.
I was in bed at like 7.
What?
Yeah.
PM?
PM.
PM.
That's a.
I was still. Girl had a had a day yeah we were still up
so yeah i thought you were gonna do something with your kids
did you say you were gonna do something with your kids i could swear
didn't she say on wednesday she was doing something with... We need the replay. I do need a replay.
Pretty sure. You did not?
I did not.
Toby was the only one that was home.
My other kids are in Orlando and Tempest.
Oh, she was talking about Crave.
She wanted to go to Crave, but she has something else
planned.
At the end of the month, which that might
not be happening either, so we'll see.
Okay, maybe. Pass. Next. either. So we'll see. Okay. Maybe.
Pass next.
Pass next.
Off to our sponsor.
Off to our sponsor.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
For some reason,
I thought,
well, I would have said,
I would have just said,
come on, come on down, girl.
You might as well enjoyed the fun.
I swear to you,
I thought you were doing something
with your kid yesterday. No.
I just watched everyone's videos on Instagram
and felt bad for myself. You did watch
the videos. You actually
watched them. Man, that destroys everything
I've been saying. I'm like, please don't post
videos. Nobody watches them. Oh, I watch
everything. Wow.
I didn't watch one. Just what you posted
in stories and stuff. Firework.
Firework. Did you watch firework videos? I mean, I didn't watch any other Just what you posted in stories and stuff. Firework. Firework. Did you watch firework videos?
Like when people.
I mean, I didn't watch any other firework like in person.
So I did look at some people's videos.
Okay.
My thanks, Dan.
Which is super lame.
I say the same thing.
It's like watching, looking at somebody's meal that they're about to eat.
I watch like looking at firework.
Wait.
You love that.
No, no, no, no, at, I watch somebody eat their meal.
I don't look at somebody's picture of their meal.
Like,
I don't want to see what you're going to eat.
I want to see you eating it.
Well,
I don't really,
and there's only like two people that I actually watch eat meals.
Yes,
you do.
There's only two people.
And they are special.
And they are special. Very special. But special but they're um but they're well it doesn't matter no no it's like you you connect with people
i connect with these people you do connect with them and and and how i connect with them i don't
know because it concerns me a little bit that I feel connected to them. Me too. I'm definitely concerned.
I'm definitely a little concerned.
I've got my tabs on you.
Yeah, I don't know.
But it's like anything.
You know, when you watch something, it's like that's why reality TV is so popular is because you connect with different personalities.
And you're like,
what do they have to say? Or what are they doing?
Do you know what I'm saying? You connect with personalities.
And it feels real.
Sometimes it's not real, obviously.
But it feels real. So it feels like you're
watching somebody else's life.
And it doesn't affect yours.
And feeling better about mine.
Sometimes I feel a lot better about mine.
Right. I mean, i mean and then other times
i never you know though people have asked questions like do you wish you were somebody else
no i don't wish i had somebody else's life i don't wish i had somebody else's belongings i don't
so content it's good and whatever god brings my way but that's why a lot of times people watch
reality tv because they're always either wanting to feel better about themselves or longing for something do you know what i'm saying yeah like
mtv cribs people used to watch that all the time and for variety of reasons but a lot of times it's
always because you're like what do they have like because you you're not content with what you have
i think sometimes it's it's a a thing that needs to, I think, be addressed.
I used to watch Teen Mom because I was 21,
and I felt like, wow, I'm doing pretty good.
I was like, man, these kids.
They got it rough.
I've never seen that show.
So I felt better about myself.
I watch Toddlers and Tiaras.
Okay, you've got to say stuff in the microphone because nobody can hear you. I watch Toddlers and Tiaras. Okay, you gotta say stuff in the microphone
because nobody can hear you.
I watch Toddlers and Tiaras and stuff like that.
I love that.
Oh, yeah.
I was like, I would smack the crap out of these kids.
But they're not being helped.
Like, their parents are feeding, like,
shoving pixie sticks down their throats
to make them perform on stage.
And Red Bull.
Red Bull?
No, no, no.
Red Bull?
Yeah, they take a Red Bull. They take a Red Bull. Red Bull? Red Bull. Red Bull? No, no, no. Red Bull? Yeah.
Are you saying it like that?
They take a Red Bull. Red Bull?
Red Bull.
They take Red Bull and they put a pixie stick in it and they shake it up and then they feed
it to their kid to keep them awake because they wake up at like four in the morning and
they start like putting self-tan and all this stuff on and they're like four-year-old.
Oh, yeah.
It's crazy.
It's so much fun.
I never watched that.
That's wild.
I don't even think they have it anymore.
Or Dance Moms.
Oh, everything is somewhere now.
If you Google it, you can find it.
You can watch it on something.
Oh, you can watch it right now with me in my room with me at night.
Oh, that sounds like a date.
Toddlers and tiaras.
Small time.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, me and my mom have been snuggling on a lot this week.
Mommy, mommy.
Oh, my God., me and my mom have been snuggling on a lot this week. Mommy, mommy.
I need my mom.
My best friend.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, I tell you.
She had to save herself. Yeah.
That's funny.
That's crazy.
All right, Tracy.
Do your thing, baby. Okay, okay. I was going to text. Oh, wait a minute. That's crazy. All right, Tracy. Do your thing, baby.
Okay, okay.
I was going to text.
Oh, wait a minute.
Really quick question.
Do we have our new commercial for the ladies conference?
Yeah, I have it up, ready to go.
No way.
Oh, not new, new.
Not new, new.
Not new, new.
Not the new, new one?
I got to run it by you first.
I want to make sure.
Don't play the other one then.
Okay.
Okay, we have the new commercial to go out.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'll approve it and then it'll go out. Okay, perfect the other one then. Okay. Okay. We'll have, we have a new commercial to go out. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
I'll approve it and then it'll go out.
Okay.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Okay.
Bye.
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That will be exciting. Do we know how long that will last? Is it like two hours? No.
Okay. It's because Tom's podcast, I might have to move the time to 6.30 instead of 7.
Okay.
Since Tom's podcast is going to go five days a week starting next week.
Yes.
Which is exciting.
So we'll probably start it at 6.30 and it will be done by 8.
Okay.
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Coming back.
Yep.
That's short and sweet.
Short and sweet.
Love it.
Okay, so the questions today are very different, but not bad.
They're actually really good.
They're just very different and ones that you'll want to hear
everybody's opinion and viewpoint on.
But let's get going.
First question is,
I have family who believe
you should let your kids decide
what religion that they want to be involved in
or even if they want to be religious.
I don't think that's right.
I'm right about that, right?
Have you ever heard of parents?
I mean, when my kids were small, I would talk to people,
and they would, not obviously in the church,
but I would be talking to people, and they would say,
they would have one spouse that's one religion another spouse
that's another religion and you would say well you know what faith are they growing up in oh we're
gonna just let them decide and then there were some parents that were like um we're just gonna
let them decide whether they want to pursue that and i okay, well, let's usher our kids straight into hell.
But they don't have, nine times out of ten,
the parents that believe like this don't have a relationship with the Lord.
Or if they do, it's not really, like, they believe they're saved,
but they're not saved.
Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
I'm sure in the school system, Sarah has experienced this a bunch, right?
Yeah, because it's like they're enlightened or something.
They're above it all.
I don't get this at all.
I have scripture, but go ahead.
Because I was like, I'm going to start talking about the subject,
and we're probably not even going to get to scripture for a while.
Because this is insanity that parents actually believe this,
especially if you call yourself a Christian
and you believe you're a solid believer
and that's your mind take.
So for the person, you are right.
They are wrong.
Do not follow that.
That's bad advice.
I don't care if it's your parents, your grandparents,
and you first, you know, you're newly saved.
Don't listen to that.
Yeah.
We're going to let them choose what gender they are.
We're going to let them choose who they love.
We're going to let them choose, you know, it's just like kids are dumb.
Yeah.
That's why they have parents.
Yeah.
To keep them on the straight and narrow and like literally give them those boundaries.
So it goes far beyond just like oh i'm gonna let them
decide what what spiritual what they want to pursue they don't know right you know and if you
don't to me people who say that like you just said they don't have a real relationship with god they
they've never met one yet a religion they. They have a religion. They go to
church every now and then. They, you know, check little boxes off, but they've not encountered
a living God who is real, who created the heavens and the earth, who loves you so much and knows
every single hair on your head and how many, you know, thinks more thoughts of you than they're
more grains of sand. Like, what in the world?
Why would you let them choose?
You're setting them up to fail as far as I'm concerned.
Now, people who have never even been exposed to Christianity,
and they still get saved.
So I'm not saying it's an impossibility,
but, I mean, it's dangerous to let your kids because that's one of the things that I think about.
Like we're letting kids decide what clothes they're going to be wearing at the age of three when they get up in the morning.
You have this outfit you can have or you can have this outfit.
I'm like, bull crap, you're wearing what I'm putting on you and you're not going to throw a fit over it.
That's how we train them up. You teach them how to behave by making them do things
that they're not comfortable with. Perfectly good outfit. It all matches. They'll look cute in it
and they're going to cry because they don't want to wear it. And then you cave and you give into
them and you're treating and you're teaching them that the world revolves around them. At a very
young age, they need to be structured.
They need to be trained.
They need to be taught that they don't get to decide.
They have to learn discipline.
They have to learn to be obedient at a very young age.
So as they grow older, they become more free.
And then they make better decisions based on the training that they've been given as a very young child. Zero to three, they say, is the most important, like a parent's ability or a parent's love.
Influence?
It's not just influence, but the structure of how a parent provides security,
how they love the child, how the protection that they provide for them,
all of them from zero to three, they say is the most profound. That child will know who you are
in their life from zero to three. It gains all of that. And then everything is built off of that.
That's one of the reasons why Tom quit coaching when Tommy was very young.
He learned,
he read a very solid book about training a child up.
And it was a Christian book and it was on the brain of the kid.
And he was like,
well,
if this is true,
it's not worth,
it's not worth the risk of believing that it's not because all all of the
studies showed it so he's like tommy i think was a year or just about to turn a year and he was like
ain't doing this no more like my kid's way more important than coaching football players so but
it goes along with the proverbs 22 6 which says train up a child in the way he should go and when
he is old he will not depart from it so you can train them up right or you can train them up wrong.
And you can train them up to be a Christian or you can train them up that they can make the choices that they want and decide whatever they want.
Do whatever they want.
Be entitled, which is what we've done with our kids.
We've spoiled them so bad that they now feel like they're entitled.
That's not the real world, though.
The real world is not going to give you that.
You go to a job.
They're going to be like, kiss off.
You're doing it my way.
What were you going to say?
Vanessa, it looked like you were about to say something.
I'm just agreeing with everything you guys are bringing up.
It makes a ton of sense.
So yeah, I'm just agreeing.
Oh, I thought you were about to grab the mic before I went to the verse.
Yeah, go ahead, Sarah.
Were you about to say something?
Logan mentioned it, too, that from zero to three is the most important when you're talking about brain development.
And it's from zero to five before a kid even supposedly goes to school, if you're sending them to school.
They're the most neurologically malleable.
In other words, you can train them.
Most of what they know their whole life comes before they're even five. Interesting. Isn't that why they do language early? Like different
languages? Yeah. If you teach a kid three languages when they're a baby, they're going to
learn it and they're going to know it because their brains are so. And I think that, you know,
school doesn't help because then we it's all about just like putting everybody into a box and, you know, there's no more freedom.
There's no, this is what you were made for and what you love and what you're passionate and what you're good at.
And let's point you in that direction.
It's, you know, originally public schools were, Rockefeller had a lot to say about, hey, I need factory workers.
So if you can just like get them all in the same room
and like make them listen
and do exactly what they're told,
then that would help me out.
And so we gave a lot of money to education.
And then it's also one of the most difficult things
to change.
Anytime anything changes in education,
it takes forever.
Like they'll introduce like a new, like remember phonics?
Yeah.
Well, that was for a long time.
That's how we taught kids how to read was phonics.
And then they came up with like full language or like whole language learning.
And it took forever for them to like allow that in.
As a special education teacher i was like we need
all of it we need to teach them phonics we need to teach them this whatever's gonna work best for
that in particular yeah that's not how it's and that's where learning disabilities quote unquote
learning disabilities come from because you're trying to teach them all the same so it's not a
learning disability it's a teaching disability you don't know how to teach them all the same. So it's not a learning disability. It's a teaching disability. You don't know how to teach them.
Because everybody learns differently.
Right.
Off of five different sensories, too.
Yeah.
So.
Yep.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
It's.
You go straight to the school system.
That's a whole other thing.
But, like, for my kids, like, when they were twos, they were.
Like, again, you have. Which makes complete sense to me, Sarah, zero to five.
Because with our kids, and I think we didn't ever have a real deal, didn't really deal with rebellion and stuff like that.
Partly because when our kids threw a tantrum, they weren't allowed to throw a tantrum.
We stopped it immediately.
We get up off that ground, or I'll give you a reason to throw a tantrum, and then you still won't be able to throw a tantrum. We stopped it immediately. We get up off that ground or I'll
give you a reason to throw a tantrum and then you still won't be able to throw that tantrum.
Like you're not throwing a tantrum. All you're teaching your child is to have a fit of rage
and it grows. It gets bigger. So I watch parents and they say you're supposed to just let them
express that and walk away or just ignore it and they'll stop.
You've lost your mind.
You do not look away.
You do not ignore bad behavior if you're a believer.
The word of God is the word of God.
You follow that manual, not what some man's told you works.
And it says do not let your, you know, as a person, do not have a fit of rage.
And when you're throwing a tantrum, you're allowing a fit of rage to happen.
Are they going and beating, kicking down the walls,
putting holes in the walls?
No, but eventually it could happen.
Yeah, because if they're on the ground
and they're kicking and screaming, they'll grow up,
and it'll get worse with the kicking and screaming.
You don't allow it.
You stop it immediately,
then you don't have to deal with it.
But it's just like kids lashing out when they're very little.
Like I've seen little three-year-olds yell and say to their parents,
I hate you.
I'm like, ooh, I'm bleeding.
Well, one of you guys go into the.
Save you, mommy.
Yeah.
I had a bad hangnail.
So in your dad's bathroom top left drawer
is a first aid kit um so you'll hear you'll hear kids say i hate you like and the parents do
nothing about it i'm like you gotta nip that in the bud like they can't express those you have to
learn to control your tongue you have to learn to control your tongue.
You have to learn to control your emotions.
If you allow them to do that, you're not teaching them.
You're not helping them to control their carnal nature.
And it starts when they're very small.
And it's very simple things, but now that makes me,
that explains a lot why we didn't deal with a lot of stuff with our kids
because because from zero to five we were nipping in the bud very quickly yeah that's interesting
though and people have always said to us i mean not my kids are perfect because they're not perfect
by no means but a lot of people are like you never went through anything bad with your kids no
not really never hardly i mean very minor in comparison to most.
Yeah.
But they used to always say to me, just wait.
Yeah.
Just wait.
Teenage girls.
Right.
I was like, pretty simple.
Yeah.
It doesn't have to be like that.
Right.
So for me, a lot of parents are afraid as their kids age that they're going to have to deal with a lot of nonsense.
And I'm like, if you do it and you do it right then you really don't have to if you do the
biblical principles you won't have to do that but um but it goes back to like i don't let it you
you don't let like god doesn't give us choices like we have free will but he's like if you're
going to abide in me these are the things that you must do to abide in me.
And the same thing with parenting, like, or religion and stuff like that.
If you, he expects certain things.
He has boundaries.
I'm good.
He has, thank you.
He has boundaries.
We need to apply them too.
And then if they don't want to do it, then that's on them afterwards.
Because, like, there's some of us that have kids that are in their 20s.
Thank you.
Nope, just one.
There's some of us that have kids that are in their 20s.
And, like, Sarah has a philosophy that's my philosophy.
I'm not worrying about my kids.
Like, you're 18.
You're an adult.
I will love you.
I will help you.
I will support you. That's help you. I will support you.
That's her philosophy too.
But you want to do your own thing?
Then do your own thing.
But I'm like, I'm not going to like,
I'm like Jesus.
I'm not pursuing you and I'm not chasing you down.
I'll just wait.
Like he does with us, you know?
There's nothing good that comes from chasing
and trying to manipulate your kid,
but you need to set boundaries and you need to give them direction because that's what the word
tells us to do. Isaiah 54, 13, the New Living Translation says, and all your spiritual children,
this is so important. All your children shall be disciples taught by the Lord and obedient to his will.
And great shall be the peace and undisturbed composure of your children. So that right there
goes to tell you, you need to like, he wants to have, he wants to give them instruction.
He wants to give them the boundaries. That's our job. Through us, we set that stage. And then if that happens,
there will be peace and undisturbed composure for our kids.
And there's your peace in making the right decision
on what to do with them.
You should guide them to Christianity.
You should train them up.
You get captive of everything that tries to enter in.
You make sure that their hearts are guarded and their minds are kept pure.
Keep, and sorry about that, because Emma's thoughts and mind is not pure after last night with everybody.
We did nothing bad, but we did nothing like.
We just like to dance.
It was funny.
It was funny. It was funny.
It wasn't that bad.
I'm just joking.
But again, you are to take captive of what your kids' hearts and minds take in,
and you're to guard their heart.
And that means whatever that means,
whether it's family members that live unholy lifestyles
that have a heavy influence on your child,
then you keep them from that.
Or if there's a family member that's going to influence them not to follow your instruction
not to go in the direction of what you're trying to teach them you keep them away from them
it could be books it could be school it could be a multitude of things but your job until they're 18
is to make sure they go to heaven and you you got to make sure that whatever that looks like without being abusive and causing yourself to go to jail, you make sure you do that.
And that's the way it goes.
Tracy?
My thought is on the question, the original question, that if you have family that believe that you should let your kids decide.
I'm so sold out that the Bible is like the truth. And so if you're teaching your kids something opposite than the truth, like how, like there's no point of reference. So if you're
teaching them that this might be the truth and this might be the truth and this could be like,
there is only one truth for me. And so I live my life in a way that this is the only truth.
So why would I teach the truth in the way?
Correct.
And so why would I teach my kids?
I'll let them know there's other thought process and why people think that way.
But I also let them know like their God is dead.
Their God's dead.
Their God's dead.
Like, so I just, I'm just telling them the truth.
So why teach, let them make a decision what the truth is.
Cause like to try to understand like what is the truth, like in general, like it's very hard to describe what the truth is. And at the end of the day,
it's Jesus, like he's the truth. And so my thing is, I just wouldn't want my kids to
have, have a decision to make up their own truth.
Yeah, why give them options when the rest of them are lies?
When they're lies, right. And I hate being lied to. So also if this person's like, they're deciding between the two, they just either people force
them to believe something that they never believed in the first place. So it's just not the truth to
them, you know? So it's really, it's really on the parents at this point. They probably, like you
said very early on, it's just, that's, it's, it's, God's not real to them. God is like a tradition
or like, they're really basically
saying what church will you choose to go to? Will you go to a Catholic church or will you go to a
Jewish church or like, what church are you going to let your kids go to?
Yeah. It's not really relational.
It's exactly what I think it is. It's not really because there's an intimate relationship
with, with the Lord. It's more about where are you going to spend Sunday or Saturday?
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And what Bible will you have? And like, with the lord it's more about where are you going to spend sunday or saturday yeah exactly yeah and
what bible will you have and like or who are you going to pray to when something gets hard it's
just it's it isn't what this is yeah totally which if this person's newly saved they understand
because they are experiencing something that's far more than any other religion or any other Christian church has
taught them. Because again, like back in the day, I wasn't allowed to date somebody who was Catholic
and I wasn't allowed to date somebody who was Baptist. I mean, even because of the teachings
and the doctrines that those both hold. So I mean, you should even be that specific with your kids. If there's something that, like, if there's a doctrine
that does not coincide with the Word of God,
then you need to be also teaching your child,
like, and praying over them as they,
you need to pray in that whoever they marry
or whoever they get in a relationship with
believes the same things that they do.
Because you don't want them.
I've known plenty of people who've married
and they've married somebody who was not saved
when they're a specific religion,
then there's issues with that.
Or two different religions,
then there's issues with that.
Like now you're going to two churches.
Like it's, growing up, I mean, I had friends that going to two churches. Yeah. Like I, it's growing up.
I mean,
I had friends that went to two,
two different churches because they were married to somebody like Jewish.
So they would go to the synagogue and then they would go.
Right.
And that's confusing.
For your kids.
Right.
I used to,
I literally remember asking him,
uh,
how are you going to raise your kids?
Right.
Cause even if it's catholicism
yeah because i've known people who were christian and like they they were involved with somebody who
is catholic i'm like how what how are you gonna do this what's this gonna look like and they're
we'll figure it out like you should have figured that a lot out before you got married right not
a priority you shouldn't have gotten married because that's a big religion is a big deal right but it's not to them it's not but
sometimes sometimes people are like don't really practice the religion but then there's ones that
are wholeheartedly in right those are the ones you're like i better think about this yeah yeah
because if it's somebody that's practicing that's really not, or somebody who is a specific denomination or religion,
but they're not really practicing it,
you're like, I still wouldn't marry them.
But I'm just saying the odds are you battling that far less
than somebody who's dogmatic about their belief system.
Right.
You know?
Yep.
People don't think about those things, though,
before they get married.
It's like what we were talking about this week.
I mean, I'm down to, like, Tom, when we were,
it was either before he asked me to marry him
or just after he asked me to marry him or just after he asked me to
marry him.
Like he gave me,
I told you guys,
he gave me all those books that I had to read.
Yeah.
Marriage books.
Yeah.
To make sure we were on the same page about everything.
And this is after three years of dating,
which I do not subscribe to.
That's insanity.
That's insanity.
Even he's like,
should have gotten married like a year and a half after,
like got engaged or whatever.
Like once you know somebody,
but regardless,
like one of the questions was like,
what temperature do you want for the house?
I'm telling you.
Because people fight.
It's serious.
It fight over that finances.
Like what,
how do you do your finances?
Yeah.
Huge.
Finances are a huge thing for married couples.
So Jeff sat with a client.
I was telling you this story.
Him and his wife have separate accounts.
And every time he took an apple out of the refrigerator,
he would have to cash app his wife.
No way.
Yes. What? I know. yeah and so jeff looks at
them and goes oh oh you don't trust each other uh-huh and it they were mad um yes uh yeah because
truth and they left they were believers they left no they were believers. They left. No, they were.
And what?
They left. Two shall become one.
And they were like, okay, we need to really think about why that angered us so much.
Good for them.
They talked about it.
Gosh, dang.
They prayed about it.
Came back to Jeff like a month later and said, we now have one account.
Good for them.
Yes.
Holy crap. Nobody does that stuff. Nobody does that. have one account. Good for them. Yes. Holy crap.
Nobody does that stuff.
Nobody does that.
Nobody does that.
Nobody does that.
That like speaks volumes about those people.
Yes, but sometimes that's what it takes, somebody to say something to them.
Like when you are just, you make up a system and you just do it and you don't think about
it, you need somebody to be like, what are you doing?
Oh, you don't trust each other.
And they probably never even thought about it.
Which is wild, but.
Yeah.
It's true though.
I mean, enough that they changed their ways.
Like something hit them.
Well, even if you have two separate accounts,
there's a reason why that is.
Of course.
Whatever that reason is,
you need to be fixing that reason.
I mean, that's insanity.
That's wild.
Yeah.
But sometimes people don't do it because one's a spender and one's not a spender.
Well, you probably should have figured that out before you got married.
Yes.
But a lot of people don't ask the right questions before they get married.
They're having sex.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Instead of asking questions.
Right.
Right.
Yeah. They're living on the lust instead of like, let's figure this out.
Let's have some talks.
Right.
It's true.
So you don't know.
Like, you're getting married and like the most important things,
which most people think the most important thing is sex.
That's not it.
The most important things are how are you going to function as a couple in this relationship?
Like, what does this look like?
Nobody ever focuses on that, especially in the world.
And a lot of times they live together before they get married.
So they look at that structure and they think that that's how it's going to be.
No, when you get married, that structure is even different than what it was when you were living together.
And nobody talks about that either.
It's the second most important decision you'll ever make in your life.
And people are so flippant about it.
Like for me with kids, I would be talking that out.
Like what does raising a kid look like to you?
Yes.
Like what does discipline look like to you? Because you need
to make sure that you're both on the same page of husband, you will be the disciplinarian. I am,
I am obviously in the home all day long, I will be like, I will be the one that probably has to
do the most, but you will be the heavy. So they know that dad rules the roost.
And he's like, what he says when he brings the hammer,
like, I got backup.
The hammer's coming.
You don't listen to me, the hammer's coming.
But a lot of times, men today are very passive
and they leave it to the woman.
And that's not our role.
And so, I mean, there's just so many things.
So this question about religion and stuff like that is a great question,
but if you're married and you're newly saved,
I get why you didn't ask it because it's one that you wouldn't have known,
but this should be talked about.
Family's got nothing to say.
Family and friends that believe that you should allow them
to have their own thoughts.
Forget that noise.
Like if you didn't hear that,
Sarah goes,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Forget that.
Logan said,
Chris went to a police call.
The wife called because the husband locked the thermostat and she claimed he
was quote unquote,
freezing her out.
Well,
the book in the book,
it lists the top 20 things that causes people to
get divorced and fight over and it was one of the it was in the top 10 but i mean i get it
i listen we had to me and tom had to talk about it because he likes things colder
than me and i'm like we're gonna have to compromise on that because I'm not freezing.
We compromised. Jer has a bed
jet now. So now he has a
personal air conditioner that like blows
up onto him
because it's never cold enough for him.
The link to that.
You're welcome.
He literally has a personal air conditioner.
I have questions about this device.
What is that?
I don't have answers.
Does it blow up this way?
It's on the side of the bed, and it just blows.
Doesn't it hit you then?
No, because he's here.
Well, if he farts, then it like.
Well, that's wafting in there.
If he farts, I'm sleeping.
So, I don't know.
Listen, my dog woke me up.
So, with gas.
What? My dog has woke me up. Oh, I thought you said. So, I'm just saying. Listen, my dog woke me up. My dog has woke me up.
So I'm just saying, it doesn't always work.
Have you ever woken yourself up?
I don't think so.
I woke myself up when I snored too hard.
I was like, whoa.
Have you woke yourself up, Sarah?
If you're asking that question,
there's a reason why.
Maybe.
This is me pleading the fifth again.
Interesting.
Oh, my gosh.
Interesting.
One of the things that Sean said, which I get this, he said people that are worried about money and like having separate accounts, it could be because they came out of a nasty divorce and they're worried that it could happen again.
Yes.
I think like that going into marriage, total commitment, money is just money.
The thing is, is when you, I mean, at least in Florida, when you're married, like you
have, everything belongs to each other.
Everything's.
Yeah.
So at the end of the day, when you go to divorce, everything gets split and then you have to
like fight over like spices and air conditioning units, bed jets and stuff.
Exactly.
But my whole thing, even if you didn't live in florida yeah
which such a great point because it's so true tom is even sad people like he's like
what's yours is mine and what's mine is yours people people don't even realize it but he's like
it's shocking when there's a marital dispute and now you want him out right it's your house right
your name's on the on the mortgage
that the spouse's name's not one spouse's name on the mortgage the other and you want that person
out they ain't going doesn't matter guess what right it's both and then you got uh on top of
that what a lot of people don't realize is you got the squatter law you've allowed that person
to live there for x number of months or years, whether it's your spouse, whether it's just somebody
you allowed to live there because you're doing a kind deed, guess what? They don't have to go.
You have to go through the whole eviction process. But if you're married, you got to go through the
divorce because it's not happening. It's not happening. But if you've been divorced and you
have trust issues like that,
then what you've got to do is, spiritually speaking,
you need to get yourself to a place where you're healed of that
before you enter into a relationship with somebody.
Otherwise, don't get married.
Because if you're marrying somebody that that's an issue for you,
either they're not the right one or you're not ready.
Your heart and mind are not ready to make that commitment to somebody
because you have a trust issue that God's got to fix for you
because you can't go into a marriage like that.
You can't.
You've got to be one.
You're giving all of yourself. You're giving all of yourself.
They're giving all of themselves.
And for me, I'll be honest with you.
I know a lot of people believe in the, what's it called?
Where you have a prenup and stuff like that.
Yeah, right, right.
I'm not a big prenup person.
Right, me either.
I'm like, if you got to worry about all of that stuff,
then you don't trust the person that you're entering into the relationship with that they're
going to leave you. Right. Or they're using you. Yeah. For me, I'm like, why do you need a prenup
for? You're not ever going to get a divorce. Right. Divorce isn't, you don't enter into a
marriage that divorce is an option. Right. And if you believe that that person could be like that what the heck are you doing marrying them yeah
right somebody's mad at me for saying the temperature thing is not a big deal wait until
i get married i won't get married to somebody that that's that crazy i'm good you can be mad
at me all you want but obviously somebody's married to somebody who cares about temperature too much
well temperature is a big deal it is a big deal but you shouldn't marry that person if it's going You can be mad at me all you want, but obviously somebody's married to somebody who cares about temperature too much.
Well, temperature is a big deal.
It is a big deal, but you shouldn't have married that person if it's going to be a slight.
The problem is, is a lot of people don't talk about the thermostat because they don't think about the thermostat.
That's why you talk about everything.
Literally everything.
Everything. I'm saying you have to wait.
Date them longer so you can see all these things.
Don't just jump to marriage is what I'm saying.
I'm not saying it's not a big deal.
Everybody can calm down in the comments that I said it's a big deal.
Well, there's a lot of things that are big deals that people don't make a big deal over.
They think it's very small.
Yeah.
When you really should, like, a marriage is a huge deal.
Very big deal.
And, again, it goes back to this question is, like, hopefully the spouse is going alongside of you with this.
Right.
Absolutely.
But, because it might be their family.
The spouse's family.
And they have influence.
Right.
And that's a big deal.
Very big deal.
Yeah, very big.
Yeah. I agree. But, once again, there's a simple way of fixing the problem it's just learn to communicate with each other well
yeah because like for me and tom like it was a bit it was gonna be a big deal because i like
things hot like when i lived in dc i kept my house at 78 degrees or my apartment 78 degrees all year round me too and it was cold
so that heat was set at 70 78 degrees people would walk in to be like
i'm like it feels great the heat never was not off because it's cold right it's brick buildings
yeah i'm like summertime summertime yeah always always you walked into my my apartment you felt like you
were in the middle of june we would have been besties oh yeah now tom he wanted it at like 68
72 degrees right and that's what he kept his he kept his his places at 68 degrees yeah i was
freezing i'm like we got to come to a compromise. The compromise was like 73, 75.
I'm like, 75, please.
That's more doable.
Yeah.
Way more doable.
You got to compromise.
It does go between 73 and 75.
Right now, the house is at 73 all the time.
I can do that, though.
I'm not going to be shivering all the time, though.
Right.
He just needs a bed jet.
Yeah.
I have a link.
Oh, my God. Postal link. Postal link. You know what time, though. Right. He just needs a bed jet. Yeah. I have a link. Oh, my God.
Postal link.
You know what happened, though?
His body got used to not having it at 68 degrees all the time.
See, that's good.
That's probably good, too.
And I ended up not freezing all the time at 74, 75.
Because you've become one flesh.
Thank you, Sarah.
That's so biblical.
It's so true.
That's so true.
It's so true.
We are one. Somehow I always end up making's so true. It's so true. It's so true. We are one.
Somehow I always end up making somebody mad when I'm on the podcast.
I've just realized that.
I don't think anybody's mad.
Oh my God.
Every single time.
Oh, he's fuming in the room.
He's mad at me.
Somebody's mad at you.
Yeah.
No, Sarah doesn't think so.
Vanessa, do you think so?
They're not.
I mean, they're laughing at me.
They're going, ah, in the comments. So, like I lost a battle i listen we just disagree i'm sorry we're turning to a fever
dream again like one thing jeff and i have done in our marriage like we have identify our hills
that we're gonna die on oh yeah and if something ain't very many of them and when something comes
up and it's not on that hill, we just kind of let it go.
We communicate and we just kind of settle in a nice little medium.
Thankfully, the temperature is not on a hill that I'm willing to die on.
So he likes it.
Yeah, I do have a lot of blankets.
He likes the 68.
So you know what?
Vanessa's wearing like six layers of clothing.
Yes.
But I have other hills.
Yeah.
You shouldn't have that many hills though.
If it's your one, if it's your person, there's not going to be a lot of hills.
It's going to be easy.
Like me sitting here thinking about it, I can't really identify a hill that I'm willing to die on.
But we've been married for 17 years.
So it's like you kind of just work
through them all yeah and you kind of find a happy medium but like there's not a lot that's
worth fighting over it really isn't it's just not it's just it's nothing it's nothing really
matters that much to be honest with you to me it just doesn't so i'm like whatever i don't care
i just don't care enough about that stuff. I'd rather be friends than foes.
It's just not worth it.
And it's not because I'm kowtowing.
It's just because I just...
No.
I'd rather, like...
I don't think either one of us are like that, though.
Right.
There's always a good compromise to anything.
A happy medium.
Every time I've seen you guys, you guys are like master communicators.
You guys are a very good example of how to talk to one another
and figure out what's more important in this argument, per se,
or even this, I don't know.
It's not even an argument.
You guys don't argue.
You just talk, and then you move on.
You figure out what's a big deal and what's not.
And then whoever you feel is more right gets to do whatever. You guys are very
good about just figuring out what's important to you guys and what's not. God bless you, Norma.
Yeah. Well, I appreciate that. Seriously. And you guys have your roles too. Like, you know,
like at the end of the day, you're going to say what you feel like is right and what you feel
like is important. And at the end of the day, Pastor Tom makes final decisions. And so it just works out. And that's
why she probably doesn't even fully get the whole temperature thing because all she sees is you guys
compromise. Well, yeah, that's why I'm like, it's not a big deal to me because I've seen you guys
go, here's a small scenario because in all, you know, the biggest way, like in life, a thermostat
is not a big deal.
It just isn't when it comes to other marital problems that you could come along.
But every time I've seen something like a thermostat be brought up to you guys,
you both share your opinions.
Dad goes, I see what you're saying.
You go, I see what you're saying.
Can we find somewhere in the middle?
If not, then dad gets the final say.
But usually when you guys do that, there's always a compromise.
So that's why in my brain, sorry to anybody I offended,
but in my brain, it's not that big a deal
because everything can be talked through and figured out
because that's what I've seen in my life.
Yeah, and that's true.
It depends on what your perspective is
and the relational things that you've experienced.
But I think what's truly important is,
is like what you said,
Tracy is understanding everybody's role and being okay with your role.
Yeah.
Actually being content in that role.
The problem is,
is when people don't fulfill their role.
And then there's frustration.
Right.
Yep.
And that's,
that's where I see a lot of people
dealing with a lot of stuff that they don't want to deal with
is when one person's trying to fulfill their role
and the other person's like, can you do both?
Yeah.
Can you do both roles?
And you're like, I don't really want to do that.
Right.
Sometimes you just got to like let things fail though.
Like if a husband's not stepping up and doing what they're supposed to do,
like you can't always jump in and save.
Sometimes, I mean, you need to be prayerful about it, obviously,
but like God's not going to let you fully fail,
but you have to let your husband like realize like I'm hands off.
Like that's not my, that's not my job.
You have to make the final decision and then God will take care of it. But that's where you trust God.
But then there's, I see it where the other side where men have to deal with things that
women are doing that they should be doing and they're not fulfilling their roles.
So then sometimes I've seen it where men have to pick up for women and it's like, that's
not their job either.
Right.
And so I can, I believe it can go both ways. And it's very frustrating. Yeah, it's very frustrating for if one party is not feeling like they're being respected. Yeah, for sure. But what are you going to do? You pray it through. I can tell you that. Absolutely. I've seen marriages so healthy, so strong, just simply by praying it through. Amen. Spiritual warfare. Yep. Spiritual warfare.
Next question, because we got time. If God gave a man cancer and the devil cured him to undo God's
plan, how would you know it wasn't a divine miracle? Well, okay. First of all, this question is jacked, to be honest
with you, because, and I hate to
be mean. I didn't get
it. It made my brain like... You guys don't
understand that question? Oh, no, I understood it.
I mean, I understand it, but it's... So, somebody
believes that God... This is because people
truly believe God gives
people sickness, illness, and disease.
So, this person's saying to...
In this question, if God
gave a man cancer, because people believe
this, and I'm sorry
but you are so
wrong in this.
I may hurt your feelings
but this is jacked.
And the devil cured him
to undo God's plan
which you're giving the devil
a lot of credit.
Right, that's what I mean.
How would you know it wasn't a divine miracle?
Okay, first of all, God never gives anybody sickness, illness, and disease.
So you're wrong right there.
And I know a lot of people believe that God does so that he can humble them,
so that it can be used for his glory,
that it can be a blessing.
It's a curse.
The sickness, illness, and disease is a curse,
and God does not dwell in either of them.
Heaven has none of that.
So if heaven doesn't have it, the Lord's Prayer makes it abundantly clear that this is not possible at all.
But on the other hand, John 10.10 says that Satan comes to kill,
steal, and destroy.
And then it goes on to say, which I did, it did add it in there.
I didn't realize that.
Thank you.
But I have come that you might have life and that you might have it more abundantly.
So that scripture right there proves that there is no way anything good comes from Satan.
And there are bad things that come from God.
If you experience anything bad, lots of people will go, I don't know why God's testing me like this.
I cannot tell you.
God is not testing you. Sometimes it's you. You made some bad decisions. Yeah. A lot of people love to blame
the devil or God, but most of the time you have done something. Your life is a hot mess because
if you are having financial problems, you probably are spending far too much.
And you shouldn't be. And you're not tithing. If you have sickness, illness, and disease,
you need to examine. And I'm not a big proponent of that you can't, what you can and cannot eat.
That's not what I'm saying here is, but like, if you have a bad liver, have you been drinking?
Like you can't consume alcohol at a daily rate like some people do
and think that nothing's going to happen to you.
There are so many things, even obesity.
You're going to give yourself heart issues potentially.
You've got to be smart.
If you're smoking, do you think honestly that you can smoke
and that cancer's not going to pop up potentially?
I don't wish that.
I don't speak that.
But you need to be thinking about those things.
A lot of times in life, what we do creates our circumstances for us.
You don't want those circumstances?
Maybe you should think out daily what you should and shouldn't do.
To me, it's not the devil and it ain't God.
It's like look in the mirror, point the finger at who you see in the mirror
because it's a lot of times us.
We've created our life.
But if something bad's coming your way
and you don't believe you have had anything to do with it,
then it all comes from Satan
because John 10.10 clearly says
he comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
Thank you.
Trying to do it.
That wasn't very smooth.
Super smooth.
Sarah got a good laugh out of you.
That was very graceful.
First Peter to...
If you're going to do that, let me video it inside so we can put it in the, you know,
after party reel.
Sorry, I'm not graceful.
First Peter 2.24 says,
Who himself bore our sins in his own body on the tree that we, having dead to sins,
might live for righteousness by whose stripes you were healed.
Now, Isaiah 53.3 says the same exact thing.
One's Old Testament, one's New Testament.
It just proves that he came so that you could have a great life, even healing.
He came not only for salvation.
He came and he healed bodies through the stripes that he bore on his back.
And then on top of that, he became poor so that we might be rich.
All of those things are done for us.
Just by simply him coming to this earth.
Isaiah 53.3 says,
He is despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from him.
He was despised and we did not esteem him.
That's not the right one.
Isaiah 53.4.
Can you look up Isaiah 53.4?
I think that's the one.
I think I did it.
I think I did it off of memory.
I shouldn't have done that.
Surely he took up our pain and bore our sins,
yet we considered him punished by God, stricken by him, and afflicted.
Keep grading. It's after that. and afflicted. Now keep grading.
It's after that.
53.5.
53.5.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You got it?
Me?
Okay.
So it's Isaiah 53, which basically says the same thing.
That he was pierced for our transgressions.
He was crushed for our iniquities and punished.
And the punishment that brought us peace was on him and by his wounds
we are healed five yeah that's it exactly yeah so nothing nothing bad i have that okay thank you
you're welcome nothing bad comes from from god he sent his own son for us. If anything,
it's you or the devil.
That's just the way it is.
A lot of people love to believe in the devil,
but like Sarah said,
it's us.
We create our mess and then we expect God to,
to fix it for us.
And he will because he's merciful.
That's the great thing about him.
But the devil never devil never heals anybody.
Correct.
He doesn't want to heal anybody.
He wants to kill you.
Kill, steal, destroy, yep.
So that he can have you.
Right.
That is jacked up.
I love you, but...
That is jacked up.
You guys want to say anything about that?
I don't know if I should.
You know what?
I've already gotten in too much trouble in the comments.
I thought I should be quiet.
I don't think you want my opinions anymore.
So I was just reading something earlier today
that was talking about what evil is and you know did God create evil
and the the analogy that was used was well is cold real and people would say like yeah cold
we were just talking about it yeah when my thermostat is too low, it's cold. Actually, there's no way to measure coldness.
You can only measure heat.
So cold is the absence of heat.
The same thing with darkness.
Like you can't study darkness.
It's just an absence of light.
And the same thing goes for evil.
Like God didn't create evil, but there's evil in the world because God is not in whatever that is.
It's like, God is only good.
So, when there's evil and there's bad things in the world, it's just an absence of God.
And that's what hell will be for all eternity.
Yep.
You're going to be separated from God.
Right.
I think that's part of the torture.
Yeah.
Because right now, a lot of people, even though God is absent in their lives,
they're surrounded by people that it's not in theirs.
And people are praying for them.
Yeah.
And so.
Hope. Yeah. And so. Hope.
And so, exactly.
And so once eternity is eternity, that absence of anything good and pure, and it's gone.
Like, that's going to be torture.
Right.
That's going to be torture. Let. That's going to be torture.
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We are six minutes over.
And that was rushed, so sorry about that, Laura.
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Love you, girl.
Thank you guys for joining in.
I hope you had a great fourth it is raining cats
and dogs right now if you're not in this area you might hear it it is raining cats and dogs right
now have a great weekend hopefully sunday morning it will be dry and sunny so that your walk into the building is not a wet one.
Because apparently we have a lot of people that think that they're sugar.
They're so sweet that they'll melt if a raindrop hits them.
So guess what they don't do?
They don't come to church.
We have umbrellas.
Well, we have umbrellas, but let's not fool ourselves.
Not a one of us is so sugary sweet that we're going to melt.
I got canceled.
I'm not sweet.
Hashtag Norma's canceled in the comments.
Yeah, they're canceling her.
They're canceling me.
Hashtag cancel Norma.
I'm down.
Can I have a shirt?
I agree.
Talk to the shirt maker.
Okay, on it. But if it's raining, God is worthy.
He is.
Okay?
He is.
He made it rain because he believes you'll get your lazy carcass up out of that bed and
come to church.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Nothing drives me more crazy than people who are like, it's raining.
So what?
Amen.
Preach it.
There's blizzards up north and they still go to church.
So if it's raining, you can handle it.
Get in your car.
The Lord is worthy.
Put your praise on.
Like, do what the rest of us do.
Pull your hair back in a ponytail.
And if you have your hair cut so short
go boho
that weekend.
And if you don't know what I mean, look it up.
There's plenty of ways to
do your hair.
Nobody's going to come to church on Sunday.
There's plenty
of ways to do your hair if it's
going to get wet. Trust me.
I get frizzy. So you can come because he is worthy.
And he is.
Amen.
He is worthy.
Have a great weekend.
We will see you on Wednesday of next week.
Bye.
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