The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E46 | 07-10-2024

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E46 | 07-10-2024

real talk real talk real talk real talk welcome to the hope hotline. Thank you for coming. Hey. You should be on. I looked over there. Just kidding. The music's playing. Not my Chinese voodoo music. No.

But the Hope Hotline Real Talk. Yeah. And I look over there and Norma and Tracy are bopping to it. I'm like, and then she says the mics are on. So I can't laugh. I know. And I was just trying to get us up on the thing so you could see us. And then I cut to us.

I didn't know we were live. We're live. Podcast live. This is recorded. What's happening right now? Is this real? We're here. Okay.

Right back at you, Hope. You're welcome. Well, welcome to the Hope Hotline. Thank you for joining us today super excited about this wednesday like uh now listen i'm having a little bit i'm not going to but i'm freaking out slightly because we're going to be off for two weeks possibly three and i'm thinking they're never going to come back after two no they're even Sean said he's going to miss a few because he's going on vacation so this is

perfect timing well that's what's going on right now a lot of people are on vacation I get it but you guys have been listen you guys have been faithful because even though sometimes our lives haven't been the same numbers as they were before summer, our numbers have been good and climbing. Like even after, like the replays are more than normal, right? Yeah. Our numbers are still staying the same, so you guys are still tuning in. But I'm afraid if we're off, like we're going to have to do something wild and crazy to get you to come back.

Yeah, we will too. We got this. What is that? We will do something wild and crazy to get you to come back. Yeah, we will too. We got this. What is that? We will do something wild and crazy, especially Nashville Norma. I got it. Nashville Norma. I'm done.

Bungee jump, I got it. Bungee jump. I'll bungee jump for you. Do what? She'll bungee jump for you. Skydive, bungee jump, tell me what you want. Oh my gosh. I'll watch you.

Vanessa, you look like you have a lion's mane i know your hair is awesome i have a lion your hair is awesome i know it's so beautiful conference oh yeah is that what you're working on i think so i think you think so i like it i'm getting so excited for that thing. Me too. Same. It's going to be so good, guys. Like, we got the food lined up. Heather's got every date or every meeting, the food situated,

and then the breakfast for Friday morning. We just got all that taken care of. It's exciting. Golly, man. It's going to be so good. Yeah. So much fun. Sharon said the cruise would bring everybody back.

There you go. Oh, that's good. That's it. There you go. But we're now in, the problem with that, the cruise situation is, is we're now in tropical storm, hurricane season. That is very true. I'm not too keen on that. I'm more keen on going on a cruise

after November. Yes. I agree. I'm open to that. Yes. Like a holiday situation. Yeah. Let's go.

I'm more in that vein. I like it. I like it too. So that is true. A cruise might bring everybody back. I don't know about that vein. Mm-hmm. I like it. I like it too. So that is true. A cruise might bring everybody back. I don't know about that though. We gotta work on our cruise body. Cruise body?

Listen, I just got it to where I was not humiliated in a bathing suit. I'm just humbled in a bathing suit. Not humiliated. There you go.

So I don't know. I keep, I'm gonna keep working on that. Yeah. It's the way to do it. There you go. So I don't know. I keep, I'm keep, I'm going to keep working on that. Yeah. Way to do it. Yeah. So. I look great in a bathing suit.

I'm just saying. You think you look great in everything, which is God bless you. I love that. Helps me. Sometimes it's fake. Sometimes I just say that. Just to say it.

Just to say it. I really like how I feel. Speaking things that are not as though they are. Yeah. Amen. I get that. I just can't bring myself to say it. I like how I feel. Speaking things that are not as though they are. Yeah. Amen. I get that. We've heard good things about that. I just can't bring myself to say it.

I'm like screaming at myself. Liar. Liar. Oh, my gosh. Going to hell. I just saw you in a bathing suit. You look good. I'm doing better.

Give me enough ruching. I'm good. You what? Give me enough ruching. You know how it gathers? And it like conceals. Don't use that word. Why? Ruching? Ruching, I'm good. You what? Give me enough ruching. You know how it gathers and it like conceals? Don't use that word. Why? Ruching?

Ruching. I think that's okay. I didn't even know what that meant. I know it's a real word. I didn't. I didn't. Obviously, if she knows it, it's a real word. Or she's made it up in Hispanic.

No, no, no. It's a real word. Yeah. And it's a real thing. And it hides. And it's important. Okay. And it's very important.

Yeah. Especially for mamas who've had C-sections. Right. Well, trust me, I have not had a C-section, but I have a lot of cellulite. So that helps. It's hiding, which I have way less. Which is a... The eye gets pleasantly distracted.

Effortlessly concealing those trouble spots. Exactly. Rushing. Look it up. A pleated, fluted, or gathered strip of fabric. Yep. Yeah, there you go. That's the secret right there.

Optical illusions. Yep. Can I just be an optical illusion? Gosh. Just be? Yes. My gosh. Oh, my gosh. And just be. Yes. My gosh.

Oh, man. I took off from the gym last week because of the holidays, and my sister was in town, and it was just kind of crazy. And I'm paying for it today. And what's today, Wednesday? I went Monday and Wednesday because it's now three weight days, three days of doing weights. I'm, like? I went Monday and Wednesday because it's now three weight days, three days of doing weights. I'm like, I'm dying. And the owner told me, she's like, you take off a week.

She said it would have been better for you to just come on the days you could have come. She ain't lying. I'm hurting. Like, I can barely stand up. I do a lot of ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. Stand up, sit down. right yeah not good no but i'm just i'm jaydreaming about july 4th and how relaxed it was i know i'm so glad you did that calgon take me away you guys don't know that all their people will know what i'm talking about but i I'm like literally thinking, Kelgon, take me away.

That was such a great time. It was. And the water was like being in the bath. It was. And I like, now some of you are going gross, but for me, I don't want to be in cold water. I know. I want to be in like hot, not spa hot,

but hot, tempered water. So I'm warm. Yep. All right. I don't have nothing else to say. Okay. That's it. I'll do my thing.

Do your thing. Okay. Yeah. I'm done. No way. All right. So we got Facebook, which actually the numbers on Facebook after the fact have been really, really high. So I don't know why you guys are all watching on Facebook as the

replay, but hey, you know what? Do what you got to do. We're glad you're joining us. Yeah, but I don't trust Facebook's numbers. Okay. Because Facebook, let me just say this. Yeah. Okay. You can watch somebody for Facebook and if they watch it for like i think it's less than 10 seconds yes it counts as a view as a view that's not accurate so i don't count 10 seconds oh it's very small it's very three i heard it was like three to five seconds it's like counts as a view it counts as a view so those are not accurate that's ridiculous all right yeah i never trust but but i've been looking at the ones that I know are actually, yeah, they've been good. Okay. Yeah, no, I know. Rumble's doing great. Yeah. Um, all right. Well, there you go. There's that. So I'm glad you guys are watching on Rumble,

of course, but if you're on Facebook, uh, like and share and, um, make sure that you comment if you're watching live so we can know who's watching with us. Um, and then if you want, you can hop over to the Rumble link that Talia just posted, and you can join the live chat because we've got a bunch of people already in there chit-chatting. And we've got YouTube as an option as well. Some of the advantages to YouTube would be subscribing, and then you will get a notification when we do go live.

So if you do just forget about the live at 3 p.m. because you've got life and you're doing things, but you can if you subscribe to the YouTube channel it will give you a notification automatically and then every time we do anything you can just follow those subscriptions too if you click on the bell it will do all that stuff like you do with any other YouTube channel we have black robe that is available for you guys as well which is always reliable because it's our channel. It's our platform. And we have lots of options, too. We've got our church on Black Robe.

We've got the TLP, all of our worship that we end up posting that you'll see, like, on Facebook, on social media. We have, like, a whole channel for our worship as well. You can go back and, like, just let it play if you want. And just some old events that we've had. our old women's conferences on black robe and just all kinds of stuff. So if you haven't checked it out, go check it out. Our audio podcast is available everywhere. And, uh, I found some interesting information. You guys are watching the podcast, the audio podcast on your computers more than anything. Is that why we have so many downloads? I have no idea.

I don't know why. It's very unusual, but we have an enormous. Yeah, we had a, we had a thousand in June. That's not a thousand downloads. So that was extreme.

And that's not normal. No, not as most people don't download. No, no. And it's all of them. Like every, there's not like,

there's a couple that are higher obviously, but like every episode pretty much has a download. Um, so there's really no rhyme or reason why somebody would download that I know. So if you are downloading and you hear me right now, send me an email at askhopeathopehotline.com and tell me why you're downloading them. I would be so interested to understand that whole process of like why you would download. I've never downloaded a podcast before. So it's always good to understand what whole process of like why you would download. I've never downloaded a podcast before. So it's always good to understand what you guys are doing. And they're across the world.

I did used to download like Andrew Womack's a lot. The podcast. If I liked it, then I would save it. OK. So I could go back to it. So that. Yeah. But I can't perceive that somebody would do that with us.

Well, no, no, no. But for real, if there's a question that you like, listen, we take advantage or we like kind of like take for granted the fact that we know a lot of these answers or they come natural to us. But a lot of these people are learning this for the first time. Like some of the questions that they're asking, they literally have no idea. So like sometimes people ask in the chat, like, hey, did you guys answer this question? And I'll go back and find it. But yeah, I would save it too if there's a question that I had no idea that was the answer to it and I needed Bible verses.

That would make sense that they would save that to go back to. Yeah. Very interesting. Yeah. So still. Send us your deets while you're doing that. That'd be very, very interesting to know. And then, of course, we're on Rumble and we've got the live chat. And if you could just like it right next to know. And then of course we're on Rumble and we've got the live chat. And if you could just like it right next to it, if you see, if you're on Rumble right now and you

see a follow button and it doesn't say unfollow, then you haven't followed it yet. So make sure you just click the follow button. We've got a bunch of people in here and hello to everybody. We've pretty much said hello to all of our friends. I'm glad you're here today. Logan's on and CJ is watching as well. All right. So next, send in your questions. Askhope at hopehotline.com. We need those questions. So please, please send those in. And then we've got our merch available for you guys. As always, foundationchurchfl.com click shop and the newest one if you're new to the channel and new to the podcast we have our hat is the newest one available crave is coming Friday July 26th and we have a new time so it'll be at 6 30 to 8 o'clock p.m and that'll be a whole night of worship you definitely don't want to miss this. It's going to be amazing.

And then we have our new... What I want to also is share it on social media a lot because a lot of people have friends that they want to invite to church that will listen to worship music but might not go to church. But this is an opportunity to introduce somebody to your church that is either looking for a church, not saved, whatever the case. I mean, the Lord penetrates the heart with music. So most people that, I mean, I think of Tracy and I wasn't at first, but Tracy, you walked

into the church and you just began to weep. Yeah. And it was just from worship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I almost. Because you were starving for it. My knees were like giving out. And I was like, oh, okay.

So this is an opportunity. Yeah. It's not a church. It's a community. It's an outreach actually for the community to introduce the church, but also to hopefully win the loss through it. So use it as that, please. Yeah, absolutely.

But share it with your friends. Right. So if you go on Instagram and you're listening in the near future, just about five posts ago we have it. So you can just click on the post on Instagram on Foundation Church FL, and then you can just share it onto your stories. And if you're on Facebook, you can share it how you always share it. But those are two options.

And then you can just write, if you click on it and you share in your stories, you can just write your own self Friday, July 26th, 630 to 8 p.m. And you can share with your friends, but also like actually invite people, like verbally like go up and meet people too and remind them about this or people that are like maybe not in church anymore and they've been church hurt and stuff like that, but they love worship, like Hope just said, this is a great opportunity for them to be in a really great place. Got to work on their heart. Yep. It's a great chance for, it's a great opportunity for the Holy Spirit to just like really take over.

Yep. Amen. Even Saul, the savage beast, was calmed with music. Yeah. Good point. Go ahead. All right. And then next is our new commercial. So we're going to play that for you guys. Thank you. The so that's our new commercial so we are looking forward to seeing you guys and again august 22nd

through the 24th this is our event schedule um so you'll definitely want to get there early get your seats um thursday 7 p 7 PM doors open at six. And then Friday we have our breakfast. And if you're interested, you do need to register for that on a separate link. But if you just go to foundation church, fl.com and you click on the events tab, they're both right there, right at the top. So just make sure you get both of those done today. Um, we have limited space, correct for that.

So you cannot register for just the breakfast. Right. Because if you do, you'll be removed. Yeah. I mean, that's the rule. But I will tell you that, yeah, there's limited space. It's 300, I think Heather says 308 or 310 spots, and there's already over 100 people registered.

Okay. More for the conference. Over 100 registered for the conference and over 100 registered already for the breakfast. So there's like less than 200 seats available for the breakfast. It's high. It's pretty close to the 200 mark. So you might want to don't procrastinate.

I will tell you that. Right, right. Definitely. And then we'll have our second session Friday at 10.30 a.m. So that will be right after the breakfast. And the doors will open at 10 a.m. If you didn't make it to the breakfast or you can't make it to the breakfast, doors will open at 10 a.m. for that.

Then Friday, 7 p.m., doors open at 6. And then Saturday, our last session will begin at 10 a.m. And doors will open at 9 a.m. for that. Then Friday, 7 p.m., doors open at 6. And then Saturday, our last session will begin at 10 a.m. and doors will open at 9 a.m. So yeah, definitely make sure that you are there for that. And then just a reminder, there is no podcast next week. It is the Youth Fire Week, Kids, Youth and Kids Fire Week at the River. So we will not be having anything um next week and then we will we're not having anything the week after the week after two weeks definitively okay no podcast okay we might come back on the third week we'll let you know on that perfect just depends yeah depends on what's going on around here yeah because it's very busyy, busy. But it just depends on what I got.

I mean, I think Heather probably can do it. But whatever. We'll get it to work out. It just might be three. I just don't, like I'm starting to like not think three weeks is a good idea. Okay. But who knows? We'll see. Got anything knows? We'll see.

Got anything else? That's it. That's all of our updates for this week. Super exciting. Good stuff. So much good stuff, man. I love summer because summer makes it so much easier. Like youth group grows exponentially during summer because

kids aren't in school, so they have no extra activities, whether it be theater or sports or whatever, dance or whatever. Then we're able to do a lot more too, but we're going to keep up the stuff that we're adding. We're going to keep it going even

throughout the rest of the, or, you know, rest of the year and into the next. But, uh, I just love summer though. It's just so like relaxing.

And that was Sarah. I did that in Tom's podcast about two weeks ago. Oh my gosh. I think they get pretty used to me in that podcast. That's good. Whatever. That's good. Whatever. That's good. I'm usually, if somebody's making a noise, it's you.

It's me. And I'm in the corner. I know. I'm not even allowed to be seen. No, you're not. I'm to be seen and not heard, but I'm not even allowed to be seen and heard. I know. Very quiet.

Put me in the back. Yep. Yep. I know my place. No, sorry. So are we ready to go? Let's do this. Okay, let's go.

Okay, this first, I bumped this question in front of other questions because it was in reference to, I think, Friday's podcast. Was it Friday's? When we were talking about if, you know, when people get married, I was saying how Tom and I, uh, I can't remember what book it was. I think it was, uh, um, it was purple book and it was the love, something love, the Love Dare? No, Love Dare. The Love Dare book, wasn't that a movie? It was, yeah. Yeah, I did that one for my kids.

I didn't do that one for Tom because I dared to hate them. I did everything that that thing says for your husband because I have no issues. Tom's easy. But my kids at that time, I was like, I think I need to do this for my children. Oh, my gosh. So everything that you were supposed to do for your husband for that day, I did for my kids.

I love it. It didn't work. Oh, my gosh. Those things don't work. Yeah. It just, you know, people try, they think that it's like going to a marriage conference. Either you got to change you and fix you.

I mean, it's just not one thing. You got to like implement all the time. God's got to change the heart. And if he doesn't change your heart, because ultimately it was all me. I was the issue. Because I'm not a patient person you couldn't hear Norma but she goes at all

yeah no it's very true and I had to change me you know like everybody's got a lot of things that they have to change about themselves if you don, then you're just not being honest with yourself. But some things are way worse that you have to change because they affect a lot of people. And in my case, my glaring flaws were flaws that affected many. Some people, it's just them. You know, it's going to, no, not mine. Mine affected everybody around me me and especially my kids so um but god is faithful because you know i found out i thought doing that love dare book would help me but no it's like it it has to be an n-word change it has to be a daily thing not okay today i'm

gonna say something nice or today I'm going to hold my tongue. No, every day you say something nice and every day you hold your tongue. That's how that works. It doesn't work by just implementing here and there. It's like, you got to apply that word. So, but no, what this question is, is about what we were talking about, the list of things, like you want to work out, like you want to think about the list of things before you get married, like talk all those things out before you. Some people don't ask God if they're supposed to marry somebody. That's your biggest mistake. So these questions are always good to find out.

But if God tells you who you're supposed to marry, you should still ask these questions. But they are not going to be what makes or breaks whether you say yes to this person, because God's told you yes. But the question is, what if the Lord says that you're husband and you haven't gone through a list yet? Do you go through the list then?

And is that not trusting God or getting to know them? This is in regards to the first question today in reference to thermostats and money. So my thing is if you're married, if you're already married, I mean, you can do the list, but depending on how long you've been married, you pretty much know the list.

And I'm going to show you some of the things that, I looked up a list and it gave me some items that people go over. It's from Focus on the Family. That people, when they get engaged, that they should go through. But if you're already married, forget the list. Especially if you've been married a long time. If you haven't been married for very long, pull that list out.

Talk it over. But if you're married, you're married. That's how it works. So overcome. Because there ain't nothing changing that unless there's infidelity which run for your life if that happens run for your life somebody cheats get out so um but no uh you know, he's your person, she's your person, and that's the way it goes. But, I mean, the list can be fun unless you guys like to argue, then don't do the list. Because the list might cause you to argue. And don't do the list if that's the case.

Did you guys do, like, for me and Tom, you guys know the story. We both prayed. I heard from the Lord at basically our one-year anniversary because before that I wasn't really ready to know whether he was the one. I was just trying to get to know him and see if I even wanted to ask that question. And then I did, and I found out he was, and Tom did it like six months to a year after that. So we both knew. But we went through the questions just to go through the questions.

It would not have changed our destiny of getting married. Did you guys, did you ask if Jer was the one? Did you pray and ask the Lord if he was the one? I did. Did Jer do the same thing? Yes, he did. Okay, did you go through a list of questions? Yeah, we did because we were both coming out of a pretty terrible divorce relationship.

It ended really poorly. We obviously didn't want to go through it. Divorce is probably the worst thing you have to go through in a marriage. So we found Mark Driscoll, and we did The Real Marriage. We did that one at our church. Did you? The marriage conference thingy. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, we did that. So our church. Did you? The marriage conference thingy. Oh, that's so funny.

Yeah, we did that. So you did that book. That was actually, that was really good. I know. His stuff is really good. I mean, he's a little too dramatic for me, but his stuff is really good. Oh, my gosh. If you could, okay, Tom is outside the window right now doing this to me.

I can't see him. He's calling me a loser. He has been nothing but an annoyance all day today. He has been nothing but annoying to me today on purpose. That's so funny. If I did that to him outside of his podcast, just so you know. Oh, my God. What are you doing? Exactly. What are you doing? She gone. Exactly.

What are you doing? Don't you know this is like imperative? This is important. Like the world is coming to an end if I don't say this. Whatever. Okay. So, Mark Driscoll. Yeah.

Let's go back to where we were. It was important. Mark Driscoll. Yeah. I didn't know he had a list of questions in his stuff. It's like the truth about sex, friendship, and life together is the real marriage thing. So it brought up stuff that we would ask. Plus, when you've gone through a divorce, you're like, well, I don't want to do that

again. So then you start thinking of things. Plus, we did. Yeah, we had other stuff that we were both doing. We talked a lot. Jared's a talker, and I'm a talker. So we did, yeah, we had other stuff that we were both doing, like, and just, we talked a lot. Jared's a talker and I'm a talker. So we have, we talked all the time. We loved it. And we learned a lot about each other and we got into like disagreements early on. And so we kind of realized like we have, there's stuff we're going to have to work through. Plus we both, like you just said, we both knew that God was calling us to be together. And it wasn't just to make us happy.

We really felt like we had kingdom work to do together. And so in that, I did not pray for my first marriage. And it didn't work out so great. So I'm like, this time I'm going to do something a little bit different. Well, you know, a lot of people don't know to do that. No, I know. I know. Well, first of all, they're not saved when they're finding that.

Like, they meet in a bar or something like that and so they don't know to do that right but once you do right you better do it right right like it can be it can be a little difference between heaven and hell on earth yep yep for sure people don't understand that i mean it's oh my gosh. If you do enough marriage counseling, which I think Vanessa and I have done plenty, you do not want to see anybody go through anything. Right. It's not good.

So, you did do that. Yes. I skip over Norma and I skip over Talia because neither one of them, I know both of them will ask the Lord if they're supposed to marry whoever they're. I did. You did also. Okay. So you know that.

And then Vanessa, did you know? I think you told me yes, you did ask about Jeff. But before I was even in a relationship, before I met Jeff, I read this precious book called When God Writes Your Love Story. And in the book, it suggests. Of course, it sounds about right. In the book, it suggests. Was it from the Associated Related Churches? No, it was not.

It sounds like it was. In the book, it suggested that you write letters to your future husband. She goes right over it. Yeah, she does. Which I did. I wrote my future husband letters that I was able to present him on our honeymoon. Oh, my gosh. And he read through.

But we did. We not only asked all the questions and put it all on the table. I actually had him tested for every, everything under the sun because of his questionable past. So everybody should be willing to do that. Yeah. And he's been out there. Yeah. He was, that was smart. Yes. But yeah, I, I was very prayerfully like like like I was in prayer asking the Lord. And then once I got my confirmation, I was like, it's game. Let's go. Yeah. Yep. Everybody should be willing to do that.

If you if you've been around the block or just one or two blocks. Everybody should be doing everybody should do that, especially if you're marrying somebody who's never been around the block. Yeah. It's what you should do. Be responsible. Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah. It's okay. Go, Sarah. The answer is no. But you were, you were saved younger, but you walked away, correct?

Right. Yeah, so that's kind of like what we're talking about. Somebody who wasn't saved, why would you do that? I mean, that would be stupid for you to ask the Lord. You're not even living for him. That would have been dumb. I don't know.

I prayed about a lot of things, but I didn't pray about that because I got pregnant, and I was like, oh, I guess we're getting married. And then I had a miscarriage, and then I was like, well, we were already going to get married so let's just do i got pregnant again with trace so yeah no there was no asking but you know what god loves me so much he did good well yeah because derrick is a great guy but here's the thing i've seen lots of people who did not get married under biblical principle, and both of them get saved, and they thrive. And then there's some people, I'll be honest with you,

that they're not saved at all, and their marriages are fantastic. How that works, I have no idea. They're just both true. Both of them are just great people, and they're both selfless individuals, and they both are striving to make sure that the other person has the best life that they possibly can. Yeah. They still follow biblical principles without realizing their biblical principles. Yeah. They just got it going on. Right. But that doesn't happen very often. No. But I have met some that just their

marriages are stellar. Yeah. They're not saved. It just worked out for them. I wouldn't take that chance, but it did. I mean, it does. So for me, here's some questions. Let me put my spectacles on because I don't want to blow it up. Let's see. Like this is like one of them is what are you you and your fiance's rules in the marriage so one of the things that they would ask is whom do you really should consider the head of the

household and why what does submission mean when it comes to our marriage what is your understanding of biblical manhood and womanhood these are questions that you ask one another like those are important questions before you get married. I'm sorry. Those are just as important as a thermostat. Define what a helper or help meet is according to God's word. How do you plan to handle disagreements over chores and other topics? People fight over this.

Like crazy. But if you know going into it what the other person's expectation is, either you can trigger them or you can work around them. You know what'm saying yeah um are you handy in the past have you dealt with repairs good questions explain what you'll bring to the table when you run a household together a lot sometimes it's child rearing you know how do you discipline that's one of the things that tom and i when we did it it was like, what is your opinion or how do you perceive discipline with a child? Like spanking, it asked, do you believe in spanking and all these other things when both of us obviously do believe in spanking because we believe in the word.

Are you good with money? Do you work well with a budget? How do you respond during a financial crisis? Big deals, deals people and people get married so stinking fast they never talk about these things and I even wonder if they even ask if this is the one for me what's happening is is I believe um I just I just I just I've seen this several times recently where people are like, they just start dating and within a matter of months, and when I say months, I don't mean even six months, they're already engaged. I'm seeing this on a regular basis. And it's with people in their twenties. And I feel like part of it is, forgive me, but they are so freaking horny that they just forgo everything.

And another one is when I talked to somebody that got married very quick. Sarah's laughing, but it's true. I'm laughing because Heather's over there making faces on the couch. It's true, though. It is true, especially in the Christian world. Yeah, because they are abstaining. So they can't wait to hop into the bed because they're so horny. It's true, especially in the Christian world. Yeah, because they're abstaining, so they can't wait to hop into the bed because they're so horny.

That's true. The other thing is, is I had somebody who got married. They dated somebody, they broke up with them, and then they got right back together with them. And then like in four to five months, they were married.

They didn't even date a year and engaged in a year. And one of the things that we were told or that was said to me is, well, God's coming back or Jesus is coming back. And I'm like, you just married very quickly with somebody you broke up with because Jesus is coming back? Frightening. Maybe you should be focusing on other things if jesus is coming back and not getting married i'm seeing it all the time though yeah and like what if jesus doesn't come back right and the person they married good luck with that because they are like not not a good mix. It's not good.

So, and it's all because multiple reasons. It's dangerous, though. It's not good. And, like, are you bringing any unpaid debts into a marriage? If new debts incur, how will you pay those off? Like, people never think about this stuff. Right, right. Like, what's the financial, like, how much do you have, or how will you pay those off? Like, people never think about this stuff. Like, what's the financial, like, how much do you have,

or how much are you in debt? How much do you have put away? Do you believe in, what's those, prenups? See, I'm like, there's no such thing as a prenup. Because there's no such thing as divorce. When you get married, why do you need a prenup? For a divorce, yeah. You're not getting get married, why do you need a prenup? For a divorce, yeah. You're not getting divorced, so why do we have a prenup? If you're not saved, I get it.

Do the prenup. I mean, I have friends who aren't saved, and they're like, I ain't getting married without it. And I'm like, that makes sense to me. You're saved, why? Makes no sense whatsoever. Divorce is never on the table for you unless there's adultery. And that should never be in the equation because if God tells you this is the one and you guys are going after God and it should never, no prenup is necessary.

What are your convictions regarding what God's word says about tithing. You should know. You should know this. Now, again, is this like if God tells you this person's the one, is this a breaker, a deal breaker? Well, tithing should be as far as I'm not marrying you until we're on the same page. I know God's told me you're the one, but if I'm a tither and I'm marrying somebody who is questionable about tithing, that deal's not being set. I'm not sealing one deal until we're both on the same page when it comes to tithing. It's not happening.

Your whole, like, everything is set on that. If there's a financial situation that's in your future that could be hard, a hardship, guess what? It won't be a hardship if you're tithing. Don't tithe. You don't want to go through that. You don't. These are the questions. Let's see. Do you have any children you haven't told me about? That happens, guys. Heather's laughing. What makes our relationship different from the ones in your past you should ask these questions have you been in love before and how recently do your parents have any history of alcoholism i mean are these questions not good questions to ask great question 100 people don't ask them because you know what they're on a fast track to whatever but it ain't

like important stuff sometimes are there any father issues you have that make it hard to trust our heavenly father important let's see what makes you angry and how do you act when you're upset? What is it hardest for you to overcome? Let's see, when is it hardest for you to overcome selfishness? That's a good question. I don't care what anybody says. Would you say you're a good listener? Do you have convictions? You're compromising to be with me or what are they?

And a lot of people do. A lot of people will compromise themselves. Again, it goes back to what Vanessa said when she says you are dating their representative. Some people will compromise their own convictions just to be with that person. You're dating the representative when they're doing that to you, because eventually they'll get married to you. And whatever they feel convicted about or whatever they compromise in, they will start implementing that. You don't date somebody long enough or you don't ask the right questions. Like, God, is this person the one for me? You're stuck with that for the rest of your life. And I don't care when Jesus comes back. He might not come back for a really long time.

And listen, even if it's five years from now, five years can be a long freaking time marrying the wrong person. And the list goes on and on and on. Intimacy questions, which you need to know. Parenthood questions. Tying up loose ends questions, all of these things, super, super important.

But if you're married, forget about it. It's done deal. You don't need to worry about those questions anymore. You've probably figured some of them out on your own. And if you don't want to fight, don't ask. Because sometimes these questions make people argue. True. So live at peace. Girls, do you want to add anything? I think just with the prenup thing, even if you tried to justify it and say like, well, we don't know, maybe one could fall and not love Jesus anymore and then have an affair. God will take care of you no matter what. Like I, God took care of me and mine. And I never in a

million years thought that my ex would have had an affair. He chased me for like two and a half years. So it's not something that I even like thought of. And so it's just like having childlike faith, like God, even if you don't have to worry about the prenup thing in any way, it's almost like the enemy's tactic to be like, yeah, but like, what if you've seen pastors fail? You've seen, you know, all these great men of God fail. God won't fail you. So there literally is no reason. Don't even allow like the enemy to have like a foothold.

And if somebody takes you, if somebody takes something of yours and they steal from you, what's the Bible say? You get seven times back that. Amen. Seven times back that. Let. Seven times back that. Let them have it. Yeah.

Because it's only going to get better for you. Yeah. Amen. And vengeance is his, and that ain't pretty. Yeah, exactly. Anybody else? Got anything to say? Everybody's saying no.

Let's go to the next question. Perfect. I know you don't believe in aliens, and I do not. But what if they exist? Do you believe they will go to heaven or hell? Okay, well this is going to be a very hypothetical question for me because I do not believe in aliens. Does anybody believe in aliens over here

so you can answer this question? Talia, do you believe in aliens? Are they afraid to say that they do? I don't believe in aliens. I like watching alien movies, though. That's not it for me. So maybe you can hypothetically answer. From the alien movies that you watch, do they go to heaven and hell?

If they were real, I would say no, they don't go to heaven. Are they mean aliens? They're mean. Oh, okay. They're eating people. Heather's in the room. E.T. goes to heaven, Heather says. I will say E.T. will go to heaven.

Okay, just E.T. The only one. I think if they have a sweet soul, they go. Okay. Not if he's white, though. Not if he's white. What? Not if he's white?

When he's a pale white alien. Oh, when E.T. Not a white alien. Just E.T. as well. So racist. I was like, you're racist. I was like, you're racist. Oh, righty, you Puerto Rican. I don't remember that part of the movie, apparently.

I don't either. I actually don't think I've ever watched a movie. I've never been there. Only brownies are allowed to go to heaven if you're an alien. Whities, honkies, no. I was deathly afraid of E.T. once he turned white. I was like, no. No.

Get him out of here. He was dying. He couldn't help it. Are you holding your mouth because I said honky? Because I said honky? Yeah, brownies. Why not? Why not? I mean,

she's a brownie. We'd all kill to be brownies in some ways. Like, all of us want to be tall At different times in life Not me All of us want to be short At different times in life

I mean why do we lay out in the sun So we can be a brownie I don't want to be white True It's not our fault that you're super white Can't help it Don't like it It's not our fault that you're super white. Can't help it. Don't like it.

It's honest. You are porcelain. We're not born like that. True. So we're going to try and be like that. We all know we all look better with color. Exactly, Norma. What?

I don't look good tan. I'm just giving up on that dream. I think everybody looks better with color. Oh, okay. I'm just saying I disagree. I'm just saying, Norma, sorry. Okay, so my opinion is this. Okay. And then we'll go around the room.

Oh, great. Because I don't believe in aliens. And I don't believe whiteys or brownies or yellows or black and whites. I don't believe any of them have preferential treatment like Vanessa does. Okay? I think all aliens are equal opportunists. Heaven or hell. But I will tell you this.

Unless they have a Bible, their own version, right? If they have their own, if they have their own version of the Bible, and they follow those, that's my dog barking. You can let him in. You can let him in, and maybe everybody can see him.

Adamar. So, unless they have their own version of the Bible, come on, buddy. Come on over here. Let everybody see you. Come R. So unless they have their own version of the Bible. Come on, buddy. Come on over here. Let everybody see you. Come on. There he is. Just a baby. That's the boy. Everybody hears about him all the time. Oh, he's going to win out

because of Tom. So that's for everybody that hears about him. That's the boy. So I'm like yours. So that's for everybody that hears about him. That's the boy. So... I'm like yours. I'm like yours. So okay, everybody has no ear buds.

So everybody's like got no eardrums now. Unless they have a Bible, they ain't going to heaven. True. And you have to have a soul. True. There's only one way. There's only one way. There's only one way. Unless their Bible says that you don't need Jesus. That's true.

I just don't believe in it. I know that there's funky things that people see in the sky. But I think it's our government. They're demons. They might be demons. I think it's our government. In that case, they're going to hell. Demons are going to They might be demons. I think it's our government. And in that case, they're going to hell. Oh, the government. Yeah. Demons are going to hell.

Is anybody in the thing saying they believe in aliens that are saying otherwise? No, they're all, aw, for the dog right now. Just a dog. Beautiful boy. Beautiful boy. Okay. Do you believe in demons? Do you believe that aliens go to heaven or hell?

Or you don't believe in them? Hell. Hell. I think they go to hell. Do you believe in demons? Do you believe that aliens go to heaven or hell? Or you don't believe in them? Hell. I think they go to hell. Do you believe in aliens? Do you think there's aliens out there? Listen. Do you really want to get into that? Her dad's gotten to her.

Oh, my gosh. I don't even know how this question made it on the whole timeline. I'm just going to tell you right now. Your dad. He has penetrated her mind. Mom, Tracy, is this your question? No, it's trust me. Okay.

I'm going to see if my dad believes in them. I think he thinks that they're fallen angels. Yeah. That's what he's saying. They are. I don't know if it's changed, though. Yeah, I don't either. We've got one person that said no, they don't believe in aliens.

Okay. We're going to ask dad. But no, I think that. Mom, ask if dad thinks aliens are real. What podcast does this? The whole pot line. The best. The best of the best.

But if they were real, and they could somehow make it here, I think they would go to hell. Yep. Okay. So is that what the panel, does the whole panel say? Say the same thing? I think if they're an illegal alien,

they're definitely going to hell. Amen. But that's another podcast. Preach. I agree. I don't care what color they are, if they're illegal. Okay.

Okay. I mean, that is lying, right? Because it's illegal? Well, they're all illegal aliens right now. They're lying. Are they lying? Yeah, they're lying. Right, so.

And they're breaking the law. That's what the Bible says. Straight to jail. That's right. Okay. But can that be forgiven? What is that? But can that be forgiven?

If you're an illegal alien, can you be forgiven? If they repent. All things are forgivable, but you must repent. But they have to go back to their country. Right. Yes. You have to repent. Turn from your ways.

Yes. She's probably asking. Or. Yes. You have to repent. Turn from your ways. Yes. She's probably asking. Or. Hey, listen, they're coming from all countries, so there ain't one color that you can pick from that. They're coming from everything.

All of them. All of them. Red and yellow and black and white. Those are the only real aliens that we need to worry about. And it ain't good. What's happening? But this ain't good. What's happening.

But this ain't the Tom Lightly podcast. This is the whole potluck. You should go ask dad. No, I'm not asking your dad. God knows. We'll never get off this question. And there'll be rage involved for sure. I don't really want.

What is that? We've got a. Ship them back. Ship them back straight to jail. Ship them back straight to jail. Norma and Logan both agree. I do agree on that. Of course Logan's going to say that.

I do agree. Logan's going to throw anybody in jail like there's no tomorrow. They have a chance to go to heaven. Yeah. Aliens? Aliens are like illegal aliens. Illegal aliens. Oh, we're still on

illegal aliens. Yeah. You never know which way this is going to go. Well, illegal aliens always have a chance to go to heaven. Yeah, not real aliens.

No. Let's just make that abundantly clear. I mean, is there a Bible verse about aliens? No. Is there a Bible verse? No.

Right, so then there's the answer. I've never seen it. I mean, I've even looked it up because somebody asked this question before. Is there such thing as aliens? Right. And I looked up everything that I could find and there's nothing. Yeah. Right.

So there's your answer. I know. I mean, I think I have a family member who says that there is, but they could never give it to me. Give me the... But it was a book they were reading.

Oh, yeah. There is a verse about zombies. The word alien does appear in Isaiah. It's an alien for a foreigner. It's a foreigner to that foreigner That I'm talking about It's a foreigner To that country I'm like

Yeah Yeah Don't listen to Sarah She's just trying She's pulling everything out Right now She is Okay

Is that it Yeah No nobody has anything To say about Your mom didn't say Whether your dad Believes in her or not Or is she embarrassed

To tell us he does She's probably embarrassed Okay Leave it alone He probably does I'm just joking Leave it alone, Boshki. He probably does. I'm just joking. Leave it alone.

I was in his man cave for like two hours. We did talk about this. There's aliens. Yeah. Did he say yes? Did he say fallen angels? He said fallen angels. Fallen angels, yeah.

I'm on board with that. I think he thinks fallen angels and demons are different. He does. And then the demons have something, and then fallen angels have something else like oh yeah that sounds right i won't i won't something about them being redeemable but i don't i can't remember if that's exactly he's probably like no i didn't i don't either you were you were a baby so we're not gonna put words yeah we won't put words in

chipper's mouth but dad you should be watching and helping us out. Oh my gosh. If your dad was watching this, he'd be X-ing us on everything. That's not correct. That's not correct. I disagree. He's in the pool. Dad is in the pool. It's too hot.

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and she will give you a $50 discount. $50 is 50 bucks. It's sad to say that 50 bucks used to take you pretty far. But I just saw something, I think it was on Instagram, that you know how everybody keeps showing what groceries were in 2020 to now?

I literally just went and bought nothing. And when I say nothing, I mean nothing. Right. For $275. Me too. Me too. And the one I saw on Instagram, they saw the groceries were $75, and then now they are $165.

Yeah. Freaking Joe Biden. That's Biden-omics. And if you don't want to be in Biden-omics, then you need to pay your tithe. Yeah. Because, see, for me, paying the the 275, was I happy about it? No, I was not.

But thank you, Jesus. Yeah. He's my provider and I have it. Like yesterday, was it yesterday? Nick, save my tail. Nick Hanson, Hanson Automotive. That's a plug. Hanson Automotive.

He's so flipping good. I got to get you a thingy. We need to make a logo for him, but put his phone number in there. We all go to him. We all use him. So Nick, I was driving home. It was Monday. He fixed it yesterday.

Me and Brinley were driving home on Monday night, I think it was. And I ran over a nail on 41. I have spent so much money on tires from all the construction on River Road and on 41. That thing blew my tire up. It put a hole not only in the tire but through the rim of the tire like it was bad like it on river road it finally it it it automatically brought my tire down to 22 uh whatever psis or something like that and by the time i hit river road the tire was completely flat so she and I coasted all the

way home. He had a new tire on for me by yesterday afternoon. I called him yesterday, yesterday morning. He said, get it in here. I'll have it. I'll have it back to you. I think he was like between three and four and I had it back between three and four. Like I said, I told my mom, I'm like, you know, I'm so grateful because God has, I don't have to worry about, do I have the money to pay for a new tire? You pay and, I mean, some people are just starting the process of paying tithes, right? So sometimes it takes a little bit.

You'll see God show up initially and throughout that, but there are going to be times where you're sitting there going, times are tough. That's when he's also saying to you, are you going to still pay your tithe? Are you going to go back and control the situation? Do you still believe? There's testing.

Just like he asked you to test him in this, he's testing you to see whether you're in control of your finances or he's in control of your finances. Just keep passing the test. Pay that tithe. You cannot go wrong. You will not go wrong. I can promise you that.

But I'm just like, man, oh, man. Groceries, 200. I was like containers of water. I know we had the same thing happen. And when we were walking out, Allison like saw it, she saw it was like 268 or something. And I was like, aren't you so glad that we tithe and we don't even have to worry about it? And she's like, yes, because that was a lot because we didn't we didn't get a lot either. Like I barely filled up the like my Jeep, just like one layer of it, and it's a tiny little bag.

So, yeah, we just had that exact same thing happen. But we refused to be concerned about it because we tied. There's no reason to be concerned. You have to cast all your cares upon him because he cares for you. You'll have it. Do your part. He'll make sure you got it. It's just my mom, literally, I think it was my mom who said to me,

she's like, what do people do that have families that aren't saved? I know. That aren't tithers. I know. Like, what do they do? I know. Credit cards. But eventually you run out of credit cards.

I know. I know. Like, how in the world? Go bankrupt. That's why Canada has got monumental food lines. Yeah. Food lines like nobody's business they used to be a god-centered country they are no longer it's it's almost godless yep and um it's crazy it's crazy but their food lines went up from like 1 million to like it's now like

9 million or something like that tom was saying i, I might be wrong on the numbers, but it's astronomical like that. It's insane. How many, from 2020 to now, we're seeing revelations unfold, but that doesn't mean run out and get married. Because Jesus is returning. Next question. What is the fastest way for someone to lose your trust? Isn't it the last two minutes? Isn't this interesting? What is the fastest way for someone to lose your trust? Isn't it the last two minutes? Isn't this interesting? What is the fastest way for someone to lose your trust? I am such a guarded person to begin with,

which anybody that knows me very well, they know. It takes me a long, long time to let you in the inner circle. Unless I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, like you're my kind of people. But even then, I'm still, I can be very guarded. I'll enjoy your company, but I like, as far as all over you, like all of myself, you're probably not going to get it for a very long time. Only because I'm, life has its way of hard knocks.

But for me, everything starts in trust. Everything. And if for any reason trust is destroyed, then for me, I'll be an acquaintance of yours and we'll be friendly with one another, but we will never be close. Not to say we won't ever be close in the future. We just that will be done. Like, but trust can always be restored. And everybody should always give people the opportunity to be redeemed.

Everybody should do that. Because no, I mean, I wouldn't want somebody to not give me the opportunity because I've screwed up plenty of times. So I want the opportunity to be redeemed and trusted again, too. But for me, the biggest things if you want to lose my trust is lying and betrayal. Those are the two things you can do to me. And if you lie to me or you betray me, and a lot of times they go hand in hand. Lying and betrayal go hand in hand together. If that happens, I'm done.

That's not to say it will always be like that, though. Because I've learned, and Tom's been a great teacher, because I used to be like, it's done, Emma, it's over. I'm never. And he's like, you should never be like that. Jesus isn't like that with us. So don't be like that. And he's absolutely right.

And I'm grateful that I have it stayed in that mentality, because it's not a good one. And then you can't live your best life either when you stay like that. Very correct. But, yeah, lying and betrayal for me, you'll lose my trust immediately. What about you, Tracy? Um, so I think I kind of like, I put everybody like when I meet people, I just, everybody's like right here. And then as people start to like do things, I'm like, okay, this person, I can tell they struggle with lying.

So I'd never take it personal. I think think I almost assume people gossip and lie about me all the time. But it's true because it's everybody's nature. I know, exactly. They don't know it's a sin. When they do it, if they're really close to me, that would hurt. But at the end, I'm like you. I only let certain people in really, really close. But I love people, and I know everybody's people in really, really close. Um, but I love people and I, I,

I know everybody's working towards being a better version of themselves as archie as that sounds. Um, but it doesn't mean that they get to get really close. And so for a person that's really close, it would be the exact same thing. It'd be, they lied to me cause they know they can come to me and they chose to lie. Um, and then kept lying about it even when given the opportunity to be honest. Yeah. Or literally lied to another person, like gossip, like gossiped about me and like made something up that wasn't true. Like that would just put them in a different category.

I would no longer, it's not that I wouldn't be kind to them or like, you know, whatever, but I just, you're just in a different category until you proved that you've repented of that and moved on. Well, cause you know what, like, uh, like a lot of people don't know that gossip is a sin. They should know. Cause they're still going to be held accountable for it to a certain extent. You, I mean, the longer you're saved, you're not going to get away with it just cause you

go, I didn't know. You should have known. Yeah. Yeah. Because you've had a Bible and that's why the word tells you to study yourself, to be a study yourself, to be approved, right? Yep, yep. So, but for me, it's like with gossip, gossip is like, like a lot of the falseness of it to make it more sensational

so that you be, so it seems like what you're saying is actually true, but you've only, you've, you've, the element of, there's such a small percentage of the truth and the rest is such an exaggeration that it makes it believable, which destroys the character of somebody. Or makes it, maybe part of it was true, but you've made it 10 times worse than what it actually is, which is not good. It's not fair.

Yeah. So, and people always go, well, I said the truth. Yeah, that much? Yeah, exactly. And to make yourself look more righteous or more right, you exaggerated the situation.

So is it really the truth? No, it's not the truth. It's no different than the devil. And that's my thing. I always say this. The person who says more of the truth about what their part of the situation is, is more believable to me. Because they're more transparent, they're more honest,

and they're willing to take the hit of being corrected for the bad part that they played. But when you're not willing to do that, I don't believe you. Right. But it's so funny to me because people will go, I said the truth. Yeah, a small percentage of what you said was the truth. The rest of it was exaggeration or a manipulation of the situation. So you look like you're right and everybody else or the other people or person is wrong. Still a lie and you're like the devil.

It's no different. You need to know that. That's what the devil does. So you're just being his replica. Not good. Norma, what is your wife's best way to ruin trust well the lying thing is very spot on i mean that's just like yeah lying is hard because trust is all about truth yeah and i think probably the other one is just not keeping your word like saying you're gonna do something for this and then you forget it and put your own agenda behind it and push that away. I don't like that. Keep your word to me. Keep your promises.

I don't like that. I think that's my two for sure. Okay. Yep. That's good too. Cause a lot of people don't keep their word. Tell you, I said betrayal. Cause we were talking about earlier betrayal. Did you say lying in betrayal or just betrayal? I said just betrayal. Definitely betrayal. I just feel like that's redeemable. Did you say lying and betrayal or just betrayal? I said just betrayal. Just betrayal. Oh, that's good. Vanessa, this is going to be good. All of the above.

I'm a pretty intuitive person. So my inner circle is very, very like little. And I always take Jesus's model. Jesus was friendly with the 12, but he was intimate with the three. And so I very much structure my life in that same model. I, I am friendly and I am, you know, in friendship with a lot of people in my community, but I'm very intimate with just very few people. It's safe. Jesus did that for a reason.

I think about that all the time. People try to make you feel guilty because you're not close with a lot of people. Well, Jesus wasn't close with everybody. He wasn't. Finish going on with what you're saying because it's a great, I mean, that's a great thing to, a model, a great model to replicate. For sure. Yeah, go ahead.

So you are going to. I'm sorry. So it's very I'm very similar to Tracy in the sense like I don't take things very personally when people fail. Like everybody's going to fail. OK. But when it's my inner circle. Yeah, I would say lying, gossip, betrayal. That's that's it for me, for sure.

Yeah. That's a rough one. I mean, it's rough. It's all overcoming. I mean, you're able to overcome all of it, but pretty much those are rough ones. Yes, go ahead, Sarah. It is very difficult for me to trust people. I am like my default is very guarded.

And so I'm on a journey to come out of that to trust people but when you've been through some really tough things it's yeah you know and I feel like I've always had good discernment but I didn't really like I could discern things but now I have it with the Lord and so it's like is this just me or is this am I actually discerning something here so I don't even trust myself sometimes so it's like yeah so being spirit-led, but to lose my trust, Norma mentioned it. When you say you're going to do something and you don't do it, or it gets like brushed off, like, oh, yeah, I forgot. You're going to say that.

I knew we were going to do that, but then it's like, well, then don't tell me you're going to do it. Because your word is your word. My dad used to say to me, that's all you got at the end of the day. All you have is your word and let your word be your bond. I mean, people used to do, there was no contracts back in the day. It was their word and a handshake. And people stuck by that. Even Kenneth Hagan tells a story about one of the first buildings he ever got. The people were trying to sell it for more

to somebody else and the deal ended up falling apart. Not because the people couldn't buy it, but because it was supposed to be Kenneth Hagin's. So God just made it work out like that. I don't know why that was. And then Kenneth Hagin gets this building is on a handshake and was far less, far less than what the people originally wanted to sell it for. And then the people found out that the banker ended up telling these people, you know, like, I don't know how, and he told Kenneth Hagen this,

like, I don't even know how you got this building because what they were going to sell it for before was really good, but they could have even gotten more than that, and you're getting it for far less. What did you do? Like, what did you scheme and connive or whatever? And he was like, nothing. That's what we agreed upon, so that's what they were willing to sell it for. And he's like, you're getting one heck of a deal.

The people that he made the deal with, even he said they honored their handshake because there was no contract. They regretted shaking hands and giving their word that they would sell it for that. And they could have backed out, but they didn't. Do you know why? Because back in the day, what you said meant something.

And there was value in you giving your word and your commitment. And now today, people don't even have, there's no value in a contract even more. So there's no value in you giving your word to do something or not to do something or to be a part of something or not be a part of something or to sell something or not to sell something, whatever the case may be. Nobody holds any value in what they say because it's empty, right? And now even contracts are looked upon like that because you get the right attorney

and they'll find the loophole. And the loophole will get you out of it or get you what you want. It should not be like that. It should not be like that. I cannot tell you how many times Tom has done something, regretted agreeing to something, and he said, I have to do it. And I'm like, well, and he's like, there's no well, because,

because my time, a lot of times for me, I'm like, well, they didn't hold up to their end of the bargain. So that ends that agreement. Because I'm a contract, I'm a rules follower. And he goes even beyond that. And he's like, no, because even if they're not going to hold true to their word, even though that agreement or that thing might be done, I said I'm doing something. So I'll hold up to my end.

It's amazing. That has paid off for us in dividends. Of course. In dividends, because he's a man of his word. He's a man of integrity and character. All of us, which I have learned greatly from, but all of us should be like that. When we say something, that's how it should be.

My dad never, ever, ever, and this is one of the greatest things I ever got to see from him is if he ever told anybody anything, he locked himself into that. And if it inconvenienced him to the highest degree, he was still doing it no matter what. Even if the relationship would have fallen apart and they were at opposite ends. My dad, if he agreed to something, it was going to be that way.

And we all need to be like that. We all need to be like that. Let your word, what you say, be the final thing. Like you're going to stick to it. If you say you're going to do it it then you're stinking do it so and i double book myself a lot so i have to fix myself because i do listen i i am terrible about this as far as i double book myself a lot of times and because i don't look at my calendar, but that is wrong. Like, and a lot of people are like me.

They say yes to somebody and they'll say, or they'll say no to somebody and in all actuality, you can do it, but you just didn't pay attention. You didn't follow through. You know what I'm saying? Yep, absolutely.

Oh my gosh, Heather. I'm still waiting for our birthday lunch. Did I book that with you? Did I book a date? Twice. A date? I booked a date? Did you cancel on me too?

It's me canceling on you? God forbid. I don't remember. I don't remember booking a date with you. I just remember us saying we were going to do it. I don't remember us setting a date. I might be the devil right now. Yeah, I set dates with Brinley twice.

You know what I had to say? Oopsie daisy. She's like, oh, and I called her the last time. She was like, it's okay. It's all right. And I said to her, I go, it's absolutely not okay. And it's absolutely not all right. Because I don it's absolutely not okay and it's absolutely not alright because I don't want her to think that

she can do that to somebody you know what I'm saying so you have to eat it like I told her no it's absolutely not okay and it's absolutely not alright because if I tell you I'm going to do something I should do it there's no like there's no excuses it is not right it's not

what you do. You do not set something up with somebody and then you, like all of a sudden, it wasn't even a change of my mind. I overbooked myself because my sister was in town and I totally didn't realize I had all this different stuff to do or it was gonna take longer or whatever.

Doesn't matter though. It's irrelevant. You can have the best reasons you want to, but you're still letting someone down or you're not keeping your word and that is not cool so even if it's for a seven year old right isn't she seven

especially I feel like eight even if it's an eight year old thank you Sarah because you're teaching these kids that they can break their word so but yeah I think that's true. I never even thought about keeping your word. That's a really good one too.

So, and that happens a lot more than people would like to imagine, including with me. So, all right, people, that's it. We're gonna see you on Friday. Have a great day. Wednesday night. If you got youth, get your keisters here. We got a great youth day. Wednesday night. If you got youth,

get your keisters here. We got a great youth group. Tracy's saying that because she's a part of it. Talia's a part of it. But we do. We really do. We have great kids. Great kids. We have a lot of fun. Yeah. So be here tonight if you got youth or if you have kids that you know,

youth kids that you know that need to, you know, iron sharpens iron. Get them here. If they don't know the Lord, listen, they're going to have a great time. They have so much fun. They get fed. And let's support our youth group because it's part of our church. So thank you for joining in.

We'll see you on Friday and have a great Thursday. Bye. Real Talk. Real Talk. Thursday. Bye.