The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E60 | 09-25-2024

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E60 | 09-25-2024...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Hope Hotline. We're in the midst of Tropical Helene Where we just had our first thunderstorm in band Yeah, officially hurricane It's officially a hurricane Yep Okay Moving right along
Starting point is 00:00:34 Oh, let's look at this I bring this up for a reason, people Let's look at this This is a fun little graphic I found. This is the most recent because it's off of Cancun now. Yes. Yep. And it's projected with that red line.
Starting point is 00:00:53 That's the main red line, correct? Yeah, that's the center line. Yep. That's the middle of the spaghetti. That's the middle. Yep. That's where it looks like it's going. But it's humongous.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Clearly, it's very, very big. I mean, it's, I don't know. But look at the clouds. Like, it's going but it's humongous clearly it's very very big i mean it's i don't know but look how look at the clouds like it's so big that was obviously a while ago because it was way down there but that's how big it is so it is going to be a big big storm i think my mom said it's like a 200 or is it 400 i can't remember yeah two or 400 mile width or something like that. I think it's 200 mile width. It's 200 or something like that. It's crazy. So I'm thinking it's 100 on each side, maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Maybe, yeah. I'm trying to see if I can. I don't know. It's not supposed to be too bad for us, but I just, i am going we're going to pray that this thing disintegrates yeah miraculously just like the one that they just said was going to be a five yeah the year before ian oh what was the name of that one that everybody left the state irma ir. Irma. Yep. I was out. Yeah. I evacuated too.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Did you? Yeah. And then you guys stay for the end. Yeah, we did. My husband and children were in the middle of the road trying to stand up like this against the wind during Irma. That's, yeah. That's what Floridian. I guess.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Tom's gone swimming. Tom was going swimming during Charlie. He was out in the pool swimming. I'm videotaping. Good old Floridians. Yeah. Yeah, he was a weatherman for Irma. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Meteorologist. Yeah, people were a little, people that hated us were a little bothered by that. Because he's making fun of the Weather Channel. Right. Lo and behold, they got found out and Tom was right. Scheme artists. Liars. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But we didn't know that at the time. I mean, everybody could tell. They're going to the lowest part of whatever. They're like being dramatic. People walking behind them. Like a year later, it's found out. Yeah. And he was making fun of them.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Love it. This is sorry's business. Guys, Jim Cantore is here. Where? I don't know. If he's there, then you know it's him. You're in trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He's north of Tampa. Last I heard. There's got to be a tracker for him. I know. There should be. Literally. Wherever he is. Yeah. You know there's trouble. There's got to be a tracker for him. I know there should be. Literally. Wherever he is. Yeah. You know there's trouble. There's trouble. Wherever he is, there's trouble.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I don't know. I don't know. For me, I just, I feel for the people that are like, it's heading towards. Yeah. Oh, me too. too 100 I think until you've been through it you don't understand yeah yeah before it's not that I didn't feel for people I did yeah but now I have compassion for people and there is a big difference for before I mean
Starting point is 00:03:58 instead you know one or the other there's a difference. Until you've gone through it and you've experienced it, you're like, aw. I know. Right. Now I'm like, oh, my goodness. Yeah. Right. Yep. I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I really don't want people to have to go through. I was telling Tom, man, I don't want people to have to go through what we're going through with the insurance companies. Because there's a lot of people that are not winning and that lost. And they didn't know how to fight. Right. And so they literally paid or have not gotten their houses back together from it. Right. Because they don't have the money to do it.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And the insurance companies made them believe this is all you're getting. They don't know how to fight. So, I don't know. It's. So I don't know. It's very disheartening for me. It's very sad, especially for the elderly, because a lot of times the elderly are the ones that are taken bad. Right. And it just is so heartbreaking for me.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So heart-wrenching. It really is. So we're going to pray over that storm, because I truly, truly, truly believe, just like everybody thought Irma, it wasn't possible. And miraculously, poof, that thing went from being something to nothing. And nobody could explain it. I mean, literally, the words from meteorologists was that was a miracle.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Well, I believe we can see another one. And we're going to stand and believe because it may not be coming towards us. Thank you, Jesus. But it is going towards someone, and I don't want that for them. So let's pray really quick. Heavenly Father, we just come to you right now. And Lord, I just speak to that hurricane, Hurricane Helene. I speak to that in the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Dissipate, become nothing. Just dissolve into absolute oblivion over the gulf. It's unexplainable why you went from something to nothing. If you say, Jesus, if you can speak to the storm and say, peace, be still. I command the same thing over Hurricane Helene. Peace, be still. Be nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Be gone in the name of Jesus. And we thank you and we praise you because we know what it's like to be those people that are facing the eye. Give them peace. Give them comfort. And, Lord, help them to stand and to know that that thing ain't coming their way either. It is gone in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 00:06:23 So we're going to believe for that, and I'm going to watch for that. Yeah. So stand with us. And if you, I'm a big proponent of if your faith isn't there, then that's okay. Just don't stand in agreement with me because I'm not a God's will person when it comes to this thing. I mean, the word says, if you say it, you'll get it. And that's the way it is. So it is God's will. Yep. So if you're a case or a Sarah kind of person, that's okay. Just don't stand with me on this. I only want people who believe like me.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So next thing I want to like, Sarah's got this little thing going on that I want her to share. Excuse me. I just burped. That was a Red Bull burp. Oopsies, sorry. Can't hide that one. You might have heard it. Sarah's got this. She just did a, it's called Cultivate 8.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You can put that up there if you want. Cultivate 28. Why did I miss the 8? That's okay. Cultivate 28. You can put that up there if you want. Cultivate 28. Why did I miss that? That's okay. I know. Cultivate 28. Okay. And that's her phone number. But it's a group that you just had a group of women go through it. You want to share a little bit about it? Sure. So the Lord downloaded almost every detail of this program starting back in like April and May. And we did a beta group, like a testing group in June that Vanessa was a part of. And I think we had like eight girls for that one.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And then the next round that we did in August, we were, we doubled that. So what it consists of is it is basically like an intensive 28 day discipleship program that includes how to honor the Lord with your body. So physically, how to deal with emotions and your heart, your soul issues, you know, different things that we go through when we're kids that we hold on to and trauma. I am not a therapist by any sense of the word, but I know the word of God and I can hear the Holy Spirit. So it includes a tracker for you to do the four essentials plus other things during every day. And it's a place of very close knit community.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So we have Zoom meetings multiple times a week and some of them are at 528 in the morning. Oh, and so I thought at one point morning. Oh, ouchy mama. So I thought at one point, I'm like, there's 16 women in this group. I was thinking maybe three or four would get on this 528 AM Zoom meeting. 11 of them showed up to the first one. I would have been the one not. I ain't gonna lie um but there's there's a lot of um science behind all of it everything that we do is from uh the word but also I've done a lot
Starting point is 00:09:35 of research too and read a lot of books that you know we know the word is true but when you see things in the world that confirm that what the word says is true, it just builds your faith. Yeah. So, yeah, we talk about and learn about fasting, praying in the spirit. Those are good things. A lot of people don't know about fasting. Right. And some people don't realize that you don't have to eat like every three hours
Starting point is 00:10:07 or every six hours. And there's physical things in your body that start to heal themselves when you don't eat for 12 hours or 16 hours or you do water only for three days. You know, there's massive things going on physiologically. And so it's a blending together of your body, your mind, and then really activating your spirit. We had women who had just started to learn how to pray in the spirit in the beginning. And by the end of it, they were like sending me videos
Starting point is 00:10:40 saying I was praying in the spirit in the car and the joy hit me. And now I'm praying for like 30 minutes a day. And so it's just a way for I'm not a huge fan of the word accountability only because it's got a bad rap. So we talk about doing soil checks. Why is accountability so bad? I mean, we're told to be accountable.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah, I think it's because people feel guilt. It's like motivated by, well, if I don't do it, I feel bad because this person is expecting me to do it. So for me, the reason why I work out. Yeah. Because I'm accountable to somebody. Exactly. Like I don't not go because I know I'm probably going to hear it from the person that I'm accountable. Right. So it's good. It's more focused on the positive. We call it doing soil checks instead of being accountable. So a big part of what it's based on is the parable of the soils. And if your heart is not right, then even if you're sowing the seed of the word of God, you're not going to get a harvest. You're
Starting point is 00:11:44 not going to have any fruit. You're not going to have any fruit. And so when people aren't showing up and aren't doing the things that they committed to and cultivate, we say, let's do a soil check. Like what's going on in your heart that's making you not want to do this. So, um, yeah. Is laziness one of the things that pops up the most time? Is that the weed that comes up? There's a reason why people are lazy, though. Yeah, there is. If something is important to you. Because most people are procrastinators.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, well. That's the truth. And that's something disciplinary that you have to get out of your. I mean, you'll procrastinate reading the word. I mean, everybody does. Anybody who says they don't, they're lying. But it's a discipline. It's a habit.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So getting those things, getting those weeds out is really good. So it's all about cultivating good habits, getting rid of things that we don't need in our life. And so we've done it twice now and okay what success stories do you have i know you have them yeah i saw your video which i didn't want you guys she has a great little video and i put it on my facebook page i didn't want you guys to see the video because i'll be honest with you what happens is most people tune it out and i don't want you to tune it out i want if you hear it from the horse's mouth
Starting point is 00:13:06 then a lot of times that does far better than the video it just does yeah we've had major breakthroughs um for people and their self-esteem just um spending that time praying in the spirit and being in his presence every day realizing what it means to be a child of God. We've had people that didn't know that the things that they were putting into their body were what was causing a lot of their problems. So fasting and taking out certain foods, like processed foods, and just trying to eat, if it comes from the garden, the farm, the ocean or a tree, like that's what we want to eat. Stay out of the middle aisles of the grocery store. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So we've had people have breakthroughs in their health. We've had a lot of a lot of what comes up is just identity and like their worth. But getting excited about and wanting to read the word. And it's like, you know, with regular hunger, when you eat, you're not hungry anymore. But with spiritual things, the more you eat, the hungrier you get. And so having that consistency every day
Starting point is 00:14:20 of knowing like, this is what people are, this is, I'm checking my my soil what are we supposed to do today okay i'm gonna do this this this and this and creating habits you know it says it takes 21 days to create a habit and so we just have an extra seven just to solidify it yeah well hey listen there's something there's something to be said for longevity of anything if you if you can do it for a long time then you will become something that you do actually desire i i know that's not i know that's crazy but it's true like how long did uh what did magalas what was magalas's challenge to me about working out she told me to do it for how many weeks was it four weeks like what she just did was it four weeks can't remember was it three months was it three months yeah maybe it might have been yeah
Starting point is 00:15:10 i don't remember but but she said basically said the same thing that sarah is saying right there she's like once you do it for what was it four weeks or three months or whatever you'll never not want to do it again yeah That was truth. That is truth. If you learn to do something and you apply it and you actually don't half-heartedly do it, but you actually go into it, you know, full scale, it will become a part of who you are. And you won't want to change because you'll see the fruits of it. I will never go back. I don't think I can ever go back.
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's something that a lot of people said was afterwards. I don't think I can go back to the way that I was living before. And the word disciple and the word discipline come from the same root. Yes. And so in order to disciple people, we have to work on disciplining them in certain habits that they're just not negotiable. Like you have to do the things
Starting point is 00:16:05 that you don't want to do now. So that eventually, you have the things that you are believing for, right? Like commitment and consistency and coachability are so crucial. I mean, I've learned a lot of this because of my background in sales, but it it totally crosses over into building, you know, the kingdom and building up disciples. What What you said is key though, being teachable, right? Which is, she uses the word coachable, but it's, it's the same thing being teachable because if you can be teachable, then you can learn to be accountable. Absolutely. And then that word's not a dirty word. It's actually, you look at it and you go, that's a good thing that I'm accountable to somebody because that makes me better than who I am today. And you're always rising to the next level in life, period.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I mean, so many times we make things super spiritual in life. It doesn't have to be so spiritual in parts of our lives. If you look at, there is things in the natural that if you do in the natural, they help in the supernatural people don't ever look at that they only look at the spiritual but i'm like if you apply them both together you're unstoppable you can't have supernatural without the natural but a lot of people i mean they bypass it they do like a spiritual bypass instead of realizing that they are the hands and feet of Jesus. And like, if you want God to move, you got to move. You have to do something in the right direction. Yeah. But I
Starting point is 00:17:32 will say it's like in the natural, if you are lazy in the natural, you will be lazy in your spiritual walk. But if you're not lazy in the natural, you have a better chance of not being lazy in the spiritual. That doesn't always go because people will sometimes get their priorities out of whack. And then there's course adjustments with that. But if you're just lazy altogether, we have a low chance of it flowing to one and not to the other. The odds are high you'll be lazy in everything. So in the natural, it affects the spiritual and supernatural. And if you're lazy, you can't do the supernatural,
Starting point is 00:18:16 let alone the spiritual. So I just think it's a great thing. Put that thing up there really quick because it's got the phone number on there, right? Yeah. So if you are interested in getting involved in this, you can check out the Facebook page. You can call me or text me at 941-237-6794. Do you do out of state? Do you do out of state? Oh yeah. Because we have people who watch from out of state. Anyone can be a part of this wherever they are. We may have a meeting or two in person for people that are local this time,
Starting point is 00:18:49 but we start our next group next week on October 2nd. And yeah, it's going to be awesome. I'm doing a Q&A coming up here. I'll have information, but find it on Facebook. Follow that page because that's where you can get most of the information or call me and text me and i can help you she's always good for a laugh on her facebook videos i can tell you that if i see one pop up i'm like i'm watching a little lately you have been yeah i watched one um let me see the one i watched you you were making a
Starting point is 00:19:22 a smoothie i I think. Yeah. I don't remember what it was, but you enjoyed it. I thoroughly enjoy myself. You did not know how to measure. She does not measure. She gets. I could have measured my heart.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah, same. That's frightening. She has a better chance of measuring than you do, Tracy. Definitely not Vanessa, because Vanessa definitely doesn't know what eight ounces is. She thinks it's like eight cups of something. Eight to ten cups.
Starting point is 00:19:52 This is probably eight ounces, right? This is supposed to be eight ounces and she's got like ten cups in this big huge thing. Listen, it was bigger than that. She filled the thing up to, like, I text her and I'm like, you know eight ounces is a cup. That's about ten right there.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's the reason why you taste nothing when you're drinking. I can't taste this at all in here. It makes a huge difference when you actually put your powders in eight ounces. Yeah. Uh-huh. Whatever it's supposed to taste like is not going to taste like it. Nope. She's like,
Starting point is 00:20:23 I can't taste the ginger. I'm like, yeah, because it's watered down. is not going to taste like it. Nope. She's like, I can't taste the ginger. I'm like, yeah, because it's watered down. You're never going to taste it. You got about seven to eight cups more than you're supposed to in there. Oh, man. Which made it good because she didn't like it. Exactly. If you don't like ginger, then definitely water it down.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Water it down. Drink that sucker. So you want to do your thing? And I'm going to hit the sponsors, and and we're going to answer the first question. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. So if you are already on Rumble, hello everybody. Talia put the link for Sarah's testimonial videos to her Facebook page for Cultivate 28.
Starting point is 00:20:57 So it's not her personal page, but it's the open. It's like it's a public page that you can go to. So when you click on that, you'll see the video, but you can go back to the actual Facebook page and follow that. And that's where you can get a lot of information as well. But that phone number that we gave you guys, you can scroll back or re-listen. It's on there, but it's 941-237-6794. So you can also text her. I guess you can call, but if you're me, you can't call me. You can only text me. I will answer if you're me you can't call me you can only text me I will answer if you call me okay Sarah will answer if you call her so but that's in the rumble chat and all across
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Starting point is 00:22:46 not least is Crave, a night of worship. And that will be Friday, October 4th. So we are coming up very quickly to that. It will be 6.30 p.m. to 8 p.m. And childcare is available. So no excuses. Come bring a friend or two or three or four. And just high expectations that night. It is going to be a great, great night for sure. Coming back. Yeah. I mean, there's there's something special about worship for sure. For sure. I love it. Me too. First question. We're going to keep going on with the seven Google questions.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I don't know what my other ones were. Do you remember what they are? Oh. Don't worry about it. I got them. I can't remember. But this one, okay, so the first one, because we were doing four. Oh, look at you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Oh, my word. You said to have it ready, and it was ready. I just forgot. Oh, my gosh. So, yeah, question one was, why does God allow suffering and evil? Then number two was in the same episode. So does life have a purpose? And then we were hoping to get to three and four last time, but we only did, is Christianity too narrow?
Starting point is 00:23:57 So then today is, can I know God personally? Yeah. You know what I find so interesting about people with their walks with God? Like a lot of times it's I'm here and God is here. But you can't see my hand. I'm here and God is here. Like there's this chasm that separates us from him. And it's not. I find that most of my walk when I first, from
Starting point is 00:24:28 my first walk with God, because I walked away from God. So from five to, I think I walked away from God like when I was 18. Most of all, if not all of that, I never looked at my walk with God as a personal relationship with him. I never looked at my walk with God as a personal relationship with him. I never looked at him like we were like hand in hand, arm in arm, like, like close family, like, like we were tightly knit. And I think that's one of the reasons why I think people do walk away from God is because they don't understand how really that intertwined you are with the Lord and how there is such a personal relationship that he longs to have with you, which is one of the reasons why we were created, so that he could have a relationship with us. But the one reason I think it's so easy for people to walk away or to not be consistent or put God in, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:26 they live their Christian walkout, but they only add him in as when he's convenient to them because they don't really have a tight relationship with him. They see him where he's up here and I'm down here. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yes. When you're not really close with somebody or you don't see yourself as close with them, then how you treat them is all relative to that. Yep. Absolutely. And so I think that's one of the reasons why it's like, uh, you guys can put yourself on, but I think that's one of the reasons why people divorce so easily because after a period of time that close and that close bond that they once shared is no longer existent right so that relationship is dead to them or there's it's it's empty and that's how I think a lot of people walk around with their Christian walks with God it's it's empty because there's nothing personal about it. And they just find him to be
Starting point is 00:26:28 like a distant father, somebody who gave birth to them, but somebody they've had no relationship with. Does that make sense? Absolutely. It does. Yep. Like a stepchild kind of thing. Yeah. Yep. So for me, I think that that's where there's a miss. I mean, for somebody to ask this question, and this is one of the top seven questions is, can I know God personally? If that's one of the top questions, most people feel like that.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Like for me with the first part of my Christian walk, that's how I felt. I didn't feel like he was close, but I will tell you, like when me and Tom, and this is a great difference is when me and Tom were dating, we dated for three years. And at no point did we cross any lines with each other at no time. There was no hands in bad places. There was no intimacy of any kind that would cross anything that would lead to anything. There was nothing ever. It was mostly talking. And the reason neither one of us ever wanted to do that is because of our love for the Lord and that personal relationship that we had with him.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Our personal relationship with the Lord was more close and intimate with him than it was with each other. And when you have that, then you won't want to do anything with anybody else because he's number one. I didn't understand that until I had walked away and knew what it was like not to have God in my life. And then when I came back, I was like, there is nothing and no one that will ever separate me
Starting point is 00:28:08 from him ever again, including myself, because I was the one that separated me from him the first time. I'm like, I'm never allowing that again. So I was definitely not going to, and people do always say to me, like, you guys haven't had sex. You've been dating for like two years or whatever. You guys haven't done anything? Like, nope, surely haven't. And they've been dating for like two years or whatever you guys haven't done anything like nope surely haven't and they're like how is that possible especially people in the world but even christians couldn't believe it yeah yeah which is heartbreaking to a certain extent uh but they're like how is that possible i would literally say this and it's so cliche but at the time I meant it with every part of my being I was like because I love Jesus so much that that ain't possible it's not possible and I know a lot of people say that but I truly like I meant like I love him and I'm not breaking his heart right
Starting point is 00:29:03 and I knew if I did cross that line with Tom, the relationship that he and I would potentially have for the future would not be what it should be because we crossed the line with each other. And the purity of that, we'd go into a marriage that had sin. So I was like, it's not worth it to me. And I loved him so much Jesus so much that and and the other thing is you I respected Tom a lot too so how you respect your partner shows a lot but I think once you experience a personal relationship with God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit because
Starting point is 00:29:41 speaking in tongues being filled with the Holy Spirit, like that people don't think they need it. And I look at Vanessa because I think Vanessa, I don't know why I'm looking at her. I just feel like there's maybe something. But once you once you get into that being filled with the Holy Spirit, that's intimacy. That's that personal thing, right? And then like that takes you to the same place. I don't know. So you're speaking and it takes me back to the moment where I grew up very conservative, Pentecostal, religious. There was a lot of rules, right? Yeah. And so for me, like I always felt like I was in trouble. Like for me, like I knew about God, but I wasn't encouraged to have like an intimate relationship with God, right? And then I meet this guy, Jeff, my husband, my now husband, and he was newly saved, radically
Starting point is 00:30:40 saved, encountered God. And I remember meeting him and I'm thinking, why do I want what he has? I have been a Christian my whole life, yet I'm meeting this guy and there's fire behind his eyes. And you can clearly see that he had been marked by God. I was like, I want that. And that was like a pivotal moment for me to kind of
Starting point is 00:31:07 like dig in. Like I knew of God, but I wanted to know God for myself. Yeah. Yeah. And so. Yeah. Because, because there is a difference. So I've was you when you grew up and there's all the rules and all the regulations and stuff, which the Bible is full of rules and regulations. But what happens is, is the rules and regulations supersede relationship with Christ. And that's not good. That's why Jesus came to not abolish it, but to add to it and to be bound by that is not good. Then when I got my life right i was like jeff so and then you yeah it's totally different totally different it is yeah knowing about him and then encountering him totally that's a great way to say it yeah that is a great way to say it. That is a great way to say it. Because that is exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:32:07 It's an encounter. It'll take you to the next level. And until you're filled with the Holy Spirit, you really don't understand the transition to your relationship with the Holy Spirit, to having a one-on-one intimate relationship with him. Like when that infilling happens, it takes you to a whole new level. Absolutely. Like a whole new level. Whereas before, you know who he is. And you know you need him because he convicts you.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And he brings things that if you didn't have them, it would not be good here on this earth. That peace and that comfort that only he can provide. You experience all those things. But then when you experience the gifts of the Holy Spirit and you're willing to take those on, that takes you to a whole new level. So lots of people walk without the gifts, but they deal with like the fruits. And both of them are good. And you need them.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But one just like catapults you and changes your whole dynamic in relationship with the Holy Spirit. And then God, you know. The thing is, is a lot of people want to have relationship with God, a personal relationship with him, and talk to him without being saved. And that's just not how it works. You can't, like, you cannot, he doesn't coexist with sin. So a lot of people think that they're going to heaven because they know God, they love
Starting point is 00:33:40 God and who he is. He's that higher power. But they have absolutely no relationship with him as far as what he considers a relationship. Because he says, those who love me obey my commandments. And without that obedience, there is no relationship. So you can say you love him and you can say you want to have a relationship with him. But it's all on his terms. And a lot of people don't realize that.
Starting point is 00:34:07 They believe that just being good cultivates that. And it just doesn't. So you have to be saved. You have to be obedient. And one of the things about being obedient is like what Sarah was saying earlier, it involves doing the four essentials, prayer, Bible study, fellowship, and worship.
Starting point is 00:34:28 If you don't do those things, then you won't have a personal relationship with the Lord. And you have, like, again, I go back to, we have the essentials class. I was just there. I just watched, I'm going and looking at all of the different ministries that we have at the church, um, and, and just looking at how they're done and how, um, people are, um,
Starting point is 00:34:54 the ones that attend, how they, how they are being ministered to, but also how are we ministering to people? It's very, very important to always be wanting to grow and be better. So one of the things I walked into, and I'll be there tonight, but I went to the essentials class last week. I was in there for like 30, 35 minutes or something. And I already reviewed all the curriculum before it was done, but how it's presented is so dang good. I was so impressed with how Skylar and Janelle present the essentials. And last week, it was basically the foundation of why do we believe what we believe? Why do we want relationship with God? Is God, does God really exist? How do we prove that God really exists?
Starting point is 00:35:48 It takes and eliminates anything that would cause you to doubt and have any unbelief about what you just walked into if you're newly saved, which we have a lot of newly saved go to this class, but we also have a lot of people who have been saved that just don't have the foundational basics. And that's this class. It does you so good. But you need to know those things because then Satan can't pluck you out.
Starting point is 00:36:13 But knowing those things makes you want to you don't even know you need. There are things that they talked about in this class that like hermeneutics is super important and it shows how the word is proven. And then you see how important through all of those things, which they didn't go in depth, but if you study that out, which bringing that up causes people to go, well, what is that? How do I know that? But showing how accurate the word of God is proves how deep and love and in love with us that God is, which makes you want to be more in love back with him because of just the distance that he went for us. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:37:11 Do you guys want to add anything to this while I'm talking? No, that's so good. I'm so glad we're finally doing an essentials hub. We talk about it so much. It's like the thing that changed Vanessa's walk. This is like the third session he's done. It might be more, actually. I still believe it should be a book.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I really do. Chet GPT. I will ghost write it. Oh, hey. It would have to be from Tom. I know. I think he preached on it. I might have to pull that stuff out.
Starting point is 00:37:44 He had a whole series on it years and years ago. I know. It's so good. It was so good. I should. Where is it? Heather, send me an email. Seriously, send me an email. I'm going to have to go find the four essentials.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And then I'll probably have Sarah edit it for me. Because I'll just take his teachings. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take his teachings and we can go from there. Right. Let's do it. I feel like a lot of preachers, that's what they do.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Oh, that's all they do. Yeah. It's like they take their sermon and just put it in. Because it's their words. Right. And the revelation. Heck yeah. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Listen, we know how much Tom talks. I can only tell you like one topic. Like worship was probably five messages. So it'll be a lot of, but I'll try and find that. And his next series on marriage. Oh my. That should be a book too.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Should. Awesome. Frightening. Oh my gosh. But I just think, I just think knowing your foundational base to your walk with god just makes you but a lot of people don't they just get saved and then they go on with their life and they just don't think that there's anything more to it and it's like there's so much more
Starting point is 00:39:02 that's why and i'm not pushing it, but I do believe like things like what Sarah is trying to do with Cultivate 28. See, the thing is, is those are the things that make you fall in love with the Lord. That's why I pray in hubs. I pray in strong hub leaders all the time. It's on my list, my daily list of prayer things. Because if you have people who are discipling people, then they fall in love with the Lord because they have a deeper walk with him.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And you can't be plucked out. You cannot be plucked out. I mean, does it happen? Yeah, it happens. It happens quite often, and it's very, very sad. But it's usually because of sin. It's not because of sin right it's not because of like the person doesn't have the knowledge it's because they have the knowledge and then
Starting point is 00:39:51 they let sin infiltrate but and that's that's that's parable of the sower that's part of the the seeds right you don't want to be one of those seeds that land in in the thorny ground or whatever. But when you have things that people are tied into and they are growing, then Satan has less of an opportunity to pluck you out. The more you know God, the less chance of that because you love him so much because of that personal relationship with him, which John 5, 19 says,
Starting point is 00:40:21 so Jesus explained, I tell you the truth, the son can do nothing by himself. You have to know who God is and you have to know who Jesus is. He does only what he sees the father doing. Whatever the father does, the son also does. So Jesus and God are the same and they look the same. And who are we? We were made in the image of God, right? So we are no different than Jesus. If Jesus looked like God and we were made in the image, then we should look like him. The deeper the relationship you have with the Holy Spirit, with Jesus himself, with God, the deeper you look more like them.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And you respond like him. 100%. So when things happen, when you're squeezed, what comes out? Yeah. It should be the word. It should be the word truth. It should be like Jesus. Every day, every day. And I say this all the time, but every day you should no longer look like your former self right you should look more like him and and sometimes when you're doing that others won't ever notice it and then there's other times where everybody's going to notice it because some things are internal workings and then some things are external things and um so nobody might not see things where you're changing at different times, but you'll know.
Starting point is 00:41:52 That's the important thing, that you know that you're always evolving and changing and that you're always becoming more and more where you look like Jesus. I love Jesse Duplantis. I was listening to a teaching that Norma sent to me, and Jesse Duplantis was talking about, specifically about how we are a family. We are a family with the Lord. And what does family look like? He was talking about different like aunts and uncles, and then parents, and then children. And you'll go to an event, a family, a friend will come in,
Starting point is 00:42:26 and they'll go to a family function. And everybody looks like each other. The outsider looks, and they can see how everybody looks like each other. And one of his things was like, if somebody came in and to the fold of wherever you're at, would they say, she or he looks like Jesus? Do you look like your family? Because that is our family.
Starting point is 00:42:51 God is our family. So do you look like your family, which is do you look like Jesus? And I'm like, that's a great question because we are a part of that family, brothers and sisters in Christ. Sometimes you look at different family members in the body and which was me for a very long time and i'd be like you could see a resemblance but not close enough and so you know you just i don't know for me i think's, that's part of the personal relationship with God. Like it's relational, it's familial. It's like what, it's not distant, it's close. And, um, what makes you close is the more you identify and look like that family member.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And that's what makes you closer to them. That shows you how strong that bond is. Like you can, like, there are some families, like in my family, like we tell people this, like my sister's famous for this. My younger sister is famous for this. My older sister is too. Like if you come into our family and you try and talk bad about another family member, you're probably going to, it's probably not going to work out well with you because we don't like that. Don't walk into our family and start talking about another family member. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And so that's because there's a tightness there's a closeness you don't let people cross lines with each other well the same thing is with that how close are you how tight are you with god because you you know those are fighting words right like we're tight how tight are you with god is that the same If somebody wants to talk bad about God himself, do you just sit there and kind of like let it happen? Or are you going, no, no, it's not going to happen. That's my God kind of thing. It all shows.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And when we stand up for what we believe in, when we stand up what we know is right in our relationship with him, like for me, I just sit there when you know what is right, and you guys can put yourself on. When you know what is right, and you guys can put yourself on. When you know what is right, and you know what the word says, and you stand up for what the word says, because you love God so much that you,
Starting point is 00:45:15 even though it might not have ever always come to pass for you, but you know that it's true. How much does that make God feel? How proud does that make him feel? Because as a parent, I sit there and go, when my kids stand up for our family, I'm like, and maybe we haven't always been the best towards each other, but I'm like, man, you know you got somebody who's got your back. That's the best feeling.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yeah. It is. But that's personal relationship. That's familial relationship. And you look at Italian families, you don't mess with an Italian family. You know, you get the horns. Like that's how we should be. That's how we really should be with each other in the body of Christ though. And a lot of times we're eating our own. Add what you want girls. Yeah. I think the biggest word is intimacy you know and so when you have
Starting point is 00:46:09 intimacy with somebody there is it's a different relationship and if God's always at arm's length and you won't fully surrender everything in your life like literally everything um he'll always be arm's length I always feel like he's far away is almost like, again, the victim mentality, you know? So, but if you have intimacy with somebody, that means you truly trust them. And typically when people don't trust their husband or their kids or the situation, it's always because they don't trust God because you should know who you are in Christ and that he literally, like you were just saying, he has your back. And so if you're living in his will and you're living sinless, you're good.
Starting point is 00:46:46 So you can just live your best life, like we always say. On biblical principle. Yeah. If you're living on biblical principle, there is not one thing that will come your way that he doesn't have already taken care of. Right. But the more distant you are from him, the more you question whether things will come to pass. Correct. But go ahead. I know that when I was overcoming like religious mindset,
Starting point is 00:47:15 the thing for me was devouring and like really getting into the word, like knowing the word and what it says really made me feel closer to him. Whereas I didn't have that when I was, I was like, but I was also a child and I was word and, and knowing what the word said about me, knowing my identity, what I had authority over, like what I had dominion over, like all of those things. I just didn't know because I just, I didn't know the word. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. Yeah. Which changes how your perspective is of God. Yeah. Like for me, again, I go back to the distance that he went for us. Like, how can you not want to be super up close and personal with him?
Starting point is 00:48:09 I know. I just, I don't know. Go, Sarah. It's literally what we were made for. So I wasn't here when you guys talked about, do you have a purpose? If you don't have a purpose, there's a good place to start. Like, that's why he created us was to be in relationship with him. So even if nothing else in your life makes sense and you're like, I don't know what I'm doing here.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You get that. You're good. Because all the rest of it comes. Yeah. We were we were created to worship and everybody is worshiping something. So when you finally surrender, like Tracy said, and you come into that alignment with him, then like nothing else really matters. It all pales in comparison to that relationship. Yep. It's so true. It really is. Nothing else does really matter. Um, which is pretty simple. It is. It's not, That's the beautiful thing about it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's not even complicated then. It's just so simple, and it's so sweet. I mean, my goodness, like the sweetness of God. It's almost where you can't even talk about it without crying because it's just like indescribable, the love. The next question is, does God exist? Which, I mean, we'll hit that. But the thing is, is to understand, like, I personally, like, for me, I love Tommy so much.
Starting point is 00:49:46 I cannot imagine having to give him up for people that I can't stand. Like, I mean, I have to love them, but I don't like them. And I will treat them as Jesus would treat them. But I'm not a big fan of some people. Right. So for me to have to like give my son up for them. Yeah. It's not happening. But he did it. And he's so pure. And then Jesus was so pure. God is so righteous. Jesus is so pure and righteous. To be sinless and to have to be sinless. Like, think about that.
Starting point is 00:50:39 To go 30 years, actually 33, but go to 30 years until you really start doing your ministry and never sin. So that you can redeem everybody. Can you imagine what that's like? Nobody ever does really think about that because he was still a man. Fully man. Fully man. I was just talking about this earlier today. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:50:57 But for me, I'm like, so not only did he give of himself for each of us so we could be redeemed, but in order to be redeemed, he had to be spotless. Right. So he had to even go further. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:11 And you know he had opportunity to be frustrated. Well, he had opportunity to sin like there's no tomorrow. Yeah. Yep. But yet, but yet, he stayed pure for each and every single one of us and all those that came before and all those that will come in the future. Yep. Every single one of us.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And God knew what he was doing when he, when he put that on Jesus. Right. And even in that, God said, you know what? I'm going to still do it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Just, oh. I know. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Just, ugh. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Yeah. How can you not want a personal relationship with him? Yeah. How can you not want to try and be obedient as not under the law, but just be obedient because you love him? Because those who love him are obedient. Mm-hmm. How can you not want to be obedient?
Starting point is 00:52:02 I know. Mm-hmm. Because he is so, not that he's so worthy. He is just so rightly do it. Like, I don't know. It just blows my mind. Like, it just blows my mind. The love.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I mean, can you, there's just no idea how much love. I know. So true. You think you love, like, I love my kids. I love my husband. And I think that's a lot of love. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 But for mankind, how much love is that? A lot. A lot. It's like nothing our hearts and minds can conceive. Yep. And for us, we're to try and look at he how he looks we're not to try we are to look at others like he looks at them and i'm telling you right now i can't do it i i mean i try but right now just being honest with you i i have not been able to
Starting point is 00:53:00 do that i don't act on it but i can't do it it's hard yeah yeah I still see what I see and I'm like the ick you know I don't act like that but he doesn't even say ick right he just says they're not mine mm-hmm but hopefully they will be he'll keep drawing them in. It's just amazing to me. Next question is, does anybody want to add to that really quick? It just reminds me of that verse in Romans, but God demonstrates his own love for us in this. While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Starting point is 00:53:40 We were still sinners. We didn't love him back. Right? And so that just, that, it's easy to go to the cross when that love is like reciprocated. Oh, yeah. Is that a word? Yeah. That was good. But at the foot of the cross, but on the cross, he's having to say, forgive them for they
Starting point is 00:54:04 know not what they do. Right. That too. Come on. cross, he's having to say, forgive them for they know not what they do. Right. That too. Come on. Yeah. That's a good one. Because they didn't love him, like you said. It would have been an easier thing if they were all sitting there.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Yes. It was the few that were crucifying him and the majority were loving him. That would have been way easier. Absolutely right. But everybody turned their back and left. Except for the few. If you think about that. His closest friends.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Peter denied him three times. Yeah. To his face. Jesus looked right at him in Luke. It says he looked right at him. If you sit there and think about that, with end times prophecy, do you not think that that's how it's going to be?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Exactly like that. Like the majority rejected him, sent him to the cross. The majority, the numbers, statistically speaking, I think are probably about the same. The few sat at the foot of the cross and worshipped him and loved him. And the rest denied him and rejected him if we don't think that that statistic or the numbers aren't going to play out to be pretty much the same we are sorely mistaken yeah what are you going to say sarah it's i mean it's sobering to
Starting point is 00:55:20 think that but in the end every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that he is lord yep whether they want to or not yeah let's do it now 100 where eternity in heaven is definitive otherwise it's not going to be a bright future and eternity is very long. Very, very long time. Nobody can fathom it. No, it's not. Nobody can fathom it. Just like nobody can fathom his love. Yeah. It's true. I know.
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's exactly what it feels like. But you can't fathom eternity. Mm-mm. Gosh. Because we have kids, and we blink. Yeah. And they're grown up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Okay. So for us, we can't even think like how long eternity is because that happened fast. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. And 20 years you think, well, that's a long time. It ain't. It's not. It's fast.
Starting point is 00:56:18 So fast. So eternity is not fast. Not fast. It's never ending. It never ends. Mind blowing. Forever. Ouch. It's never ending. It never ends. Mind-blowing. Forever. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It's mind-blowing. It is mind-blowing. Does God exist? I will say, I mean, I wondered this question. Did all of you guys ever wonder this question?
Starting point is 00:56:39 For sure. Yeah. Does God, I mean, I grew up in a Christian home and then I was like, have I been played? I mean. You got punked.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Is this really real? I don't know anything else other than this. But is this real? Right. I don't know if I've ever met somebody that didn't to a certain extent, and they might not have gone to the extent that I did, but to some extent go, do I believe this because I believe this
Starting point is 00:57:14 or do I believe this because this has been forced on me? Right. Or everybody says to believe like this or everybody says this is true, so it must be true. Yeah. Yeah. Or is this my God, the right God? Like, why am I right and nobody else is?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Like, why does everybody believe in this Allah? All the time. You know what I mean? You hear that all the time, though. Right. Like, why are we the right ones? You know? So, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:39 To some extent, I think everybody has wondered if you're not like for me I walked away. There's a reason I walked away. Because I questioned whether or not that was really real. Because if I didn't question it I would have been scared out of my what's and I would have stuck with it because I would have
Starting point is 00:58:02 been like I'm not going to hell. So a lot of people question it. That's why they're not saved. They may believe in a higher power to the degree in which they believe in it is subject is subjective to the levels they'll go to being saved. Right. And so for me, I don't think there's a person on this planet that hasn't ever questioned whether God really exists to some degree. So, but the thing is, is everybody wants absolute proof and order. I mean, there are people that are like, I want absolute proof that God exists or I'm not doing it. Well, you know, the thing is, and I made a list.
Starting point is 00:58:48 They don't need absolute proof on oxygen. True. You know? You believe in oxygen. Well, you can't see it. Nope. Electrons, protons, neutrons, history. A lot of people, you didn't exist when this history was around, but you believe it happened.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You didn't meet George Washington. But we believe that these things exist and happen because people have told us about them. The wind, air, global warming. People believe in global warming and it's actually it's a theory and this is what a lot of people don't know global warming is only a theory it's actually been proven that it's wrong yeah more scientists have flipped there have been plenty of scientists have flipped
Starting point is 00:59:41 when they had to because because they found out it does not exist. Same with evolution. People teach it as if it were like a proven thing. Yeah. But nobody was around for it. I've never seen it. I almost wrote the Big Bang Theory.
Starting point is 00:59:56 The whole thing about science is that it has to be measurable. Right. Nobody's lived that long. Thank you. Exactly. To like say, oh oh yeah this changed into this I know it's ridiculous but here's my thing
Starting point is 01:00:10 okay so you can't prove any of those because you can't see them right but the human body does feel certain things that would make you believe that a God does exist guilt like hello why would you feel guilt if God doesn't exist? Right. If there's,
Starting point is 01:00:27 yeah, no, yeah. No creator. Yep. No creator. Conviction. Yeah. Yeah. Like if those things didn't exist, then why would, if God doesn't exist, why do you feel those things? Because they're innate. Sadness. All these things. And I'm not like depression, sadness, sadness, all these things. And I'm not like depression, sadness, sadness and remorse for things that you might have done that you knew you shouldn't have done. Why do you feel them? If God doesn't exist, I just sit there and I go, huh? Huh?
Starting point is 01:00:59 What were you going to say? It takes more faith to believe that there isn't a God. I know. Like really totally I totally agree. Observe nature and talk about the human body. I mean, the machine that we are, like it had to be designed. Scientifically, yes. By something.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Right. The fact that it just came out of an amoeba and like a big bang, like that to me takes more faith. Like if you really believe that, wow, good for you. Yeah. Like your DNA. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 No one can even, I sit there and i and i could have made a really long list but i was like i'm not going to do all that but if you if you look at dna if you just look at the heart as it starts to beat no one can recreate that no one can create the, what is that thingy that separates itself? Hmm. What? It's science. It's science? It's science.
Starting point is 01:01:51 I don't know science. That's part of my problem. But science proves it too. Just simply by the human body. That's why I'm like, how can, you think, like, we want to believe in the caveman. Right. That, do you understand, like, the length that you have to go? And i'm not saying that there wasn't but i'm just saying like the length that you have to go to believe all of those things and you're okay with that but god doesn't exist right i don't get it i'm not either
Starting point is 01:02:19 or that the flood is just a great story. Yeah. Yep. Mm-hmm. We'll get to it a little further. But for me, I just sit there and go, there are so many things. Well, people will say, what about the plants, the trees? Okay, that's true. But really, if you look at bigger things that are beyond all those things, because everybody always does that. Everybody's like, well, I look at the sky and I know there's a God.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I'm like, okay, great. That's great. But to me me there's bigger things besides that what did you say is that what you say I see a nice sunset every time same way though but to a person that's like questions whether God exists your sky and your sunset probably gonna do it for them. How do you explain DNA? How do you explain the heart starting to beat all on its own? Nobody's been able to do that.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I mean, it's not possible. And I love what Romans 1, 19 through 20 says, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Now, John 20, 29 is good too. It says, then Jesus told him, you believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me. So when we believe, that's what faith is. People have faith in so many different things. So many different things. But it's crazy to have faith that God exists.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'm like, it's crazy to believe other things exist like evolution. That's crazy to me because there's no proof of it whatsoever. But we do have a Bible that has been proven over and over and tested. And there's no other book that it's got 2,500 prophecies in it. And 2,000 of them have already happened. And I'm saying, I should say approximately in it. And 2,000 of them have already happened. I should say approximately in there, but there's approximately 2,500 prophecies in the Bible and 2,000
Starting point is 01:04:34 of them, or approximately 2,000 have already happened. What other book does that? And that's all, and what did you say? I said no other book exists. No other book exists. And all of it is man inspired by God. If God didn't inspire these men, if God didn't exist, how does this happen? God had to inspire these men to write it.
Starting point is 01:05:01 He had to prophetically give words to these men. Who else would have done it? It is a God-inspired book. It is the word of truth and Jesus's truth. So like you sit there and go, then that automatically should prove that God exists. But to some, even though 20, there's no other book that has that many prophecies that even have come to pass. And the only reason there's 500 that haven't is because we haven't had those times come to pass yet. But they will. Their future. They actually are going to happen in the future.
Starting point is 01:05:38 They just haven't come to pass because that future thing hasn't come to pass. But other than that, I just sit there and go, this is the one thing I say. And I, and a lot of people kind of say the same thing, but for me, I say this, if I am wrong, then I will tell you this. I have seen miraculous things. I have lived an amazing, abundant life, believing in God. A very peaceful, calming, like exciting life believing in God. And if I believe in God and I'm right, and I've experienced all these things, then I get to go to heaven.
Starting point is 01:06:20 If I'm wrong, okay, I don't go to heaven, but I lived a very exciting, abundant, amazing life. And I got to see miraculous things happen in other people's lives as well as my own. If you're right, what do you got? What do you have? Because I've lived both lives. One was much shorter. I mean mean four years of living without God
Starting point is 01:06:48 was more than enough it's pretty miserable pretty rough were there fun times yeah but nothing like I didn't see the things that I see today right back then I mean and they were hot I was a hot mess as well so for me I'd rather be. So for me, I'd rather be wrong. I mean, yeah, I'd rather be wrong and have experienced all that I've experienced where it like pinched me. I'm so happy this is my life. Versus back then, it was like, how do I get out of this?
Starting point is 01:07:16 How do I get out of this mess? How did I get here? One drink at a time. That's how. Yeah, absolutely. So that's how I feel about that. So for me, if you can't prove, if nobody can prove that the Bible is not, they have tried. And they've actually, the ones that really, like we're trying to disprove it and we're humble enough to say,
Starting point is 01:07:39 I can't, they got saved. It's that movie. I think it was a book first, but it's The Case for Christ. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where he was actively trying to prove that the Bible was false. And by the end of his research, he became a believer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:56 It happens, though. That happens so many times. But that happens to people who are actually going into it with the right heart or are humble enough to say I was wrong. And so pride is not there. And then they can switch sides. But a lot of times pride is so big that it doesn't matter what they see.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Oh, yeah, for sure. It's irrelevant and so you always when you're going in to research something always go into it with knowing that you could be wrong right and if you're wrong you may not like being wrong i mean i'm probably one of the biggest people out there that when i do research my heart is pounding i'm like please don't let me be wrong please don't let me be wrong. Please don't let me be wrong. But when I have been, which it has happened, you know, you have to be honest and say,
Starting point is 01:08:50 okay, oopsie daisy. I was wrong on that. And as much as I hate this, you were right. And you have to do it. And then you have to switch sides. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:09:00 And that's a big, that's a big thing. It ain't a fun thing, but it's a big thing and you have to, you have to do it. So, um, what do you guys want to add to that? Or do you want to add to anything? I think of, um, Jeff's story and how he became a believer. Um, and he, it was a simple prayer. He, he prayed, Lord, if you are real, I, I need you to show up today. It's like, I don't need you to show up next week. I, I need you to show up today.
Starting point is 01:09:27 He's like, I don't need you to show up next week. I don't need you to show up next month. I need you to show up today. And he said he was instantly baptized with the Holy Spirit in that moment. And he had dealt with a ton of, like, shame from his past, and he felt like a hand go into his heart and just start pulling things out. And from that very moment, he was set free and became a new creation in Christ Jesus. And so because he's my husband and I live with him every day, like I'm reminded daily that God is real. Amen. And the power that he has. Oh yeah. It's so yeah. Night and day. He's real guys. He's real. He is real. Do you want to say something?
Starting point is 01:10:17 So back in like 2011, actually it was like 2010, one of, I think I've told this story before, but my ex brother-other-in-law basically said you know the bible's a good book and there's lots of great stories but it's not real like there's no truth to it and I was like 26 and I had nothing to say and that was really embarrassing and so I don't usually have to learn the hard way so that was my like wake up call yeah that was my little smack on the butt and so I went went into like, I'm, I know it's real. Like I know God's real. I've never questioned really truly if he's real.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I'm sure when I was like, you know, a teenager, I was like, is this real? Or is this like a prank? Like we were saying earlier, but I knew it was, but I needed to, I needed more than just my faith. Cause I, I grew up, I saw, you see things and you can't, you almost don't care because you're like childlike faith. But then when people say that, you need to have a response. And so I did this thing from Focus on the Family. It was starting at a church I was going to, and it's called the Truth Project. And it goes through like,
Starting point is 01:11:19 what is truth? Like, how do you describe what truth is? And really the only truth is the Bible. You hope can't have a truth and I can't have a truth and then we're like well that's your truth that's my like there's one solid truth and so until you can actually study out like what these things are like who is jesus what is man what like all these like it's really deep it was but it was so good it's exactly what i needed to be able to be like like the the depth of like history and science and all this kind of stuff, how it always points back to God every single time and how much, how a lot of the stories in history do align with stuff that happened in biblical times. And so if we believe that like, you know, the Trojan horse and this and that will during that exact same time, there was biblical
Starting point is 01:12:00 truths. So you can't pick and choose that. I believe in this history, but I don't believe in the Bible. Well, it literally aligns. But if you don't study it out, you don't know. And that confidence that you like, you know, deep down inside, you actually have like tangible truth. And so sometimes that's really important, especially when you're discipling people, you need to have that for them. They have questions. So that was a huge, huge tool for me in my walk. That's very good. Apologetics. And you can actually like study apologetics and defending the faith. Amen. So that you have an answer to give people when they ask. Yeah. And, and you should be teaching those. That's one of the things I
Starting point is 01:12:35 taught to the, our children's church when I did, I taught both hermeneutics and apologetics. So you have to know, understand both of them. They're both extremely important. Understanding the literal word of the Lord. Yep. And then you need to understand apologetics, which defends, which is Genesis. Genesis is the best way to defend your faith. And everybody goes to Jesus and to the New Testament,
Starting point is 01:13:04 the four gospels. You start in Genesis and you understand everything. It explains everything. And you teach your children those two things and they won't be able to walk away from the Lord. But most people don't even know about either one of them. It's huge. It's a key. Sarah?
Starting point is 01:13:26 I'm good. You're good? Yeah. I sit there, Chow. I'm good. I sit there. Your story reminds me, and then we'll close out, but your story reminds me.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And everybody, to a certain extent, should either have a story or get to a place where you do have a story like this, where you have an experience with someone that it's undeniably God, like Jeff's story, right? And I remember this one stands out so much for me, and it's not my story, but I can't think of one for me right now. But with God, I mean, with Andrew Womack,
Starting point is 01:14:06 he was, he would go to this, he tells this great story where he would go to the same business every single year and the owner of the business paid him to come in for a day and he would shut the business down and he would bring in all the employees and they would have to sit and listen to Andrew Womack preach and speak to them and this is when he was smaller but as he got bigger he still
Starting point is 01:14:31 would do this he would um come in and he would speak for like most of the day and I and he tells the story where he went in he spoke it became lunchtime so he went out every you know they were dismissed for lunch he went out and he goes and he speaks to the lunchtime so he went out every you know they were dismissed for lunch he went out and he goes and he speaks to the receptionist he's like hey what are you doing here i like you're not able to come in and she's like no i have to sit here i'm the new kid on the block she's asian and so she's like i'm new i um because i'm new i don't get to go in and she's like well who are you and so he begins to tell her and she and he and he she was like, you're the one. And he was like, I'm the one. What are you
Starting point is 01:15:11 talking about? She because she was Asian. She was Buddhist. She was all these. She was Hindu. She was all these different things because she was seeking. So she all of these. Every night she would go home. And basically she would pray to all these different statues. She was so empty and so lost. And so, I think she even used the word depressed. And so she said, God, if you are real, then prove that you are to me. Show me. And she said a bright light came into that room
Starting point is 01:15:46 and said to her, tomorrow I will send a man. And that's the reason why she said, you're the one, because he said, I'm a man. When she asked him, who are you? He goes, I'm a minister. And she goes, a minister of what or who? And she goes, I'm the minister of the Lord Jesus Christ. And she goes, a minister of what or who? And she goes, I'm the minister of the Lord Jesus Christ. And she goes, you're the man. And he ended up leading her to the Lord and changing her life. Yet, let that be us. Let that be us. Because when you have somebody who comes up to you and says like her ex-brother-in-law, Tracy's ex-brother-in-law. It's a good book, but you have a story that says, no, no. No, no. Let me tell you about this lady who God said I would be there the next day.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And your brother-in-law would have never been able to deny that story. Yeah. Right? Yep. But if you tell him, well, Andrew Womack says, he's like, yeah, I don't believe it. Right. But if it happens to you and they know you personally, then they have to believe.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Because why would you lie? Right. So let that be us. Let us seek him first every single day. Let us go after him. I did not do the sponsors. God bless you for bringing that up. Let us go after him with vigor so that we can be winning the loss
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