The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E67 | 10-25-2024

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

The Hope Hotline | S02-E67 | 10-25-2024 ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Real Talk. Hello and welcome to the Hope Hotline. Sorry. Hey, don't go anywhere, Travis. Hey, you know what's going to happen right now?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Because I got to do something. Oh, do I get to sit in the seat? No. So nobody's going to sit in the seat because Tracy's going to turn my mic off really quick and she's going to tell you all the things because we got like hot stuff coming after she talks about all the things like a hot mess. Yes. Holy moly. And I'm not kidding you.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah, this is absolutely ridiculous. Ridiculous. So do the things and then we'll go straight to the podcast. Okay. Sounds good. Here we are. Okay. All right, guys.
Starting point is 00:01:03 This is unfortunate information. But because we absolutely destroyed Milton, this is good news. But it's kind of annoying. So I'm going to play a little video for you. Well, I'll show you what I saw first just before we started. Let's talk about this. Oh. Talk about that.
Starting point is 00:01:24 OK. Talk about that. No, no, no. That's a little preview. Okay. That's a little preview. That's a little preview of what's coming next. And that's what we're going to pray about. All right. Before we get started, this is what we're going to do. We're going to check our Facebook. Um, let's see what's going on on Facebook. Nice and quiet, not lovable. Okay. If you are on rumble or you are on YouTube, even if you're watching the replay or Blackrobe or anything like that, just open a new tab or swipe up. If you're on Rumble, you should be able to still like operate your phone and all that stuff and do
Starting point is 00:01:56 all the good stuff, but go to Facebook. Make sure you like our post or like our, our page. Now I need at least four of you to do that so that we don't end on 666 because we are very close to that number. So, um, but that way, if you're on Facebook, if anything new comes up, we do keep, we do keep content going on there just because why not? If we have the opportunity, um, while we can, we're going to use it while we can. Um, so what you can do is like the actual page. If you want to like the page, there's also an opportunity to make sure all notifications are turned on. Then you don't, if we have to cancel, or if we have something special coming up, you'll see everything. If we have anything fun going on
Starting point is 00:02:33 for the holidays, I don't know what our plan is in the future, but, um, that's what we'll be doing. And you can comment if you're watching the replay or anything going on. Facebook is the one place where they do stay forever. So next, once you do that, hop over to Rumble. So we got the live chat going on over here. We got mom and Sharon watching. We got Courtney in the house, Galena, Order in the Court. I love that. You guys are so smart and so cute with your names. Okay, so everybody's over in the live chat. Make sure you comment. Let us know where you're watching from. Even if you can't stay
Starting point is 00:03:12 in the live chat, just make sure you drop your name. I'm going to turn your mic on now. Are you ready? Do you want me? Yes. Yes, I am. Okay, mic is on. All right, so Rumble live chat, if you'd like to give us a little thumbs up you can do that over underneath the title of the podcast for today and then comments will stay forever so if
Starting point is 00:03:30 you have a question or whatever you can put something there i'll go back later and look usually i get a little email that tells me you did that and then we got youtube basically youtube's just there and so the live chat is going, but we are over in Rumble. As you guys know, we love Rumble. And then we've got Black Rope. So after that, after tonight, or after this podcast,
Starting point is 00:03:52 if you want to go on to Spotify or Apple Podcasts or any of those things, you can watch or listen to the audio podcast that will be up very shortly after the podcast ends. We love hearing from you guys. Obviously, that's the whole point of this podcast. So if you want to send in your questions, askhope at hopehotline.com. We would love to get any questions.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And again, just as a reminder, if you are listening today and something comes up and it sparks your interest or it's a side note or a side question, those are fun too because then we can kind of go back to what we talked about and do that. So today is kind of similar to a question that we talked about on Wednesday, and that's going to transition it in some questions for today. So it'll be a good one. We've got our merch available, foundationchurchfl.com. Just click shop. And, of course, it's available in the actual store as well.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So we have a merch store when you come to Foundation Church. And we've got everything there from the shirts to the hats to the mugs and to the spoons. And I believe that is it for today. Coming back to you. I wish that was it for the day. Okay, I walk in. Like, me and Vanessa literally walk in five, well, Vanessa's walking in right as it's starting, but I walked in five minutes before because of life. But then you give me the lowdown on, in the skinny, I'm telling you right now.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I'm telling you. What the what is going on i am about like i'm up to here but just like i teased at the beginning we did some work on milton yeah so we're gonna do it even better this time because right now it's just a theory right now it's just a forecast what did you share with everybody i didn didn't. I just showed them. This is the first thing. Okay. Cause I haven't seen any of this. I told her I needed to know,
Starting point is 00:05:49 like we had to have proof. We had to have proof. I know. She's been telling me, she's been giving me the evidence because I didn't really want to share it unless it was actual factual and it's actual factual people. Another flipping stinking rack them, sack them,
Starting point is 00:06:03 hurricane on election day. so that's i'm gonna show you this that'd be the october surprise i don't know yeah for the state of florida right so okay go ahead this popped up breaking news florida could face hurricane patty right on election day so then when i scrolled and actually read the comments because that's like my thing it's somebody said fake news and then the um above the norm news um shared the link to usa today's and they posted on october 23rd which was two days ago um atlantic hurricane forecast says patty could form next week so um there is a video that goes along with this and it's not super informative. It just explains, like, what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Do you want to start it? Yeah, I want to see this. In the Caribbean, and it could spell disaster for Florida, just as the state prepares to vote on Election Day, November 5th. Dubbed Hurricane Patty, this potential storm is forecasted to hit the western coast of Florida, the same area battered by Hurricanes Milton and Helene just weeks ago. If Patty strengthens as expected, it could make landfall on Election Day, creating chaos at a critical moment.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Florida is already on edge. Hurricanes Milton and Helene left a trail of destruction, and many communities are still recovering. Patty would be hitting an area already in crisis, and its arrival on Election Day could throw the entire voting process into disarray. With possible flooding, power outages and evacuations, voter turnout may plummet as residents struggle just to stay safe. Florida officials have enacted emergency voting measures to deal with the aftermath of previous storms, but another hurricane so close to the election could stretch those resources thin. If paddy strikes, roads could be impassable, polling stations could be damaged or inaccessible, and power outages might disable voting machines. The state has contingency plans, but a storm on Election Day would present unprecedented
Starting point is 00:07:58 challenges. As of now, meteorologists are watching the development closely. The conditions in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico are primed for storm formation, and the forecast models show a troubling pattern. PADI, like many hurricanes before, seems to be heading straight for western Florida. Although hurricanes are unpredictable, and this storm may change course or weaken, the risk remains high. The next few days will be critical.
Starting point is 00:08:23 While there's still hope that Hurricane PADI may not become a full-blown disaster, Floridians in the storm's path must stay informed and be ready to take action. Whether it's preparing for evacuation or adjusting voting plans, residents need to brace themselves for what could be an Election Day catastrophe. With the memory of past hurricanes fresh and the possibility of another looming, all eyes are on the Caribbean as we wait to see if Hurricane Patty will strike. Floridians must act now to stay safe and, if possible, ensure their votes are counted. Okay, so that's the video I saw.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So the next thing I have, I told you guys I have the climb radar app that I always pay attention to one of the options is wind forecast so it kind of shows like what the winds will be over the next like 10 ish days it's like almost the only op like option they have that shows like a forecast that goes beyond like 24 hours okay so this is another video no audio but you'll see I'm changing from friday to saturday and then that's sunday and just keep watching the caribbean kind of go through it quickly monday tuesday wednesday it's getting a little crazier there's thursday so you see the formation down and then also a little bit above too. And that's right there.
Starting point is 00:09:45 What they're saying Patty is, as you see it, like really spinning. That's on the second. This is the third. So mine's going, the one that is on climb is going East side. So this is November 3rd.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And then November 4th. And then election day, November 5th, right in that area. Outside of Florida. Right. Which one of those is usually really good? So this one is the one that I saw when I told you that I was concerned about the next hurricane coming,
Starting point is 00:10:22 which we thought might be Isaac, but Isaac was already out in the ocean. But this is the one I use to show. And that's kind of what the weather people use to see like what's going on, where's the streams going, blah, blah, blah. So I don't know. I don't know which one's accurate. It's so far out that it's, I think it's almost impossible to tell. But if there is something out there brewing, it's our job to start praying now against it. Also, another thing to do. Oh my gosh, it makes me so mad.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I could just spit right now. Vote early. So I don't ever vote early. Neither do I. I like voting on election day. This will be my first year ever voting early. So now this has changed my mind. Now I will vote early. I like voting on election day. This will be my first year ever voting early. So now this has changed my mind. Now I will vote early. 100%. Okay. So the next, like they said, I did yesterday. I saw your thing. I saw your thing. So yeah. So if you are like me and you
Starting point is 00:11:18 love to vote like on the day, like this might be one of these times. I mean, you have time. We have till the second, I believe is what I saw on my little vote early thing. I'll confirm that just to make sure. But if you're not an early voter, this might be the year that we want to vote early so that we aren't worried about evacuating and doing all the things you have to do. But also pray against this. We're going to pray strongly against this we're gonna pray strongly against this yeah because you know what the thing is is for me this is no different than the three assassination attempts on on trump they've not none of them have been successful okay and i think that every single thing that they're trying to put
Starting point is 00:12:00 out there won't be successful and we can like speak to the winds and the waves and this thing just totally, even though they're probably out there stirring up strife and trouble with that sucker to make it be, to be something we can, we can thwart that. So maybe there's a huge, mighty cold front that'll come and all of a sudden, and like,
Starting point is 00:12:23 just, they can't control those things i mean there's certain things that they don't control they can't control everything correct so that's what we're just gonna have to we're gonna have to pray yeah people are gonna have to like rise up i mean i know people don't like to people grow comfortable and lackadaisical with things, as long as their life is not touched, then I'm good. But you know what? The thing is this, even if it isn't in your realm, you should be waging war. And this, it might not come on our side of Florida. It might go straight out into the Atlantic. But the thing is, is we don't want that thing at all right no no no oh my gosh it
Starting point is 00:13:07 makes me so mad there's a cricket you guys will be all right there's a cricket in here i saw it i said nothing but talia saw it yeah but vanessa's eyes are as big as dollar signs because she's scared oh let me get it i'll get no no it's just really big that's why i was pointing it's big it's a big one It's a huge But you know what They're good for the They're good for the inside
Starting point is 00:13:29 You know why They'll eat everything They eat everything They'll kill it Yeah That's why I don't kill spiders I know
Starting point is 00:13:36 They do You do I don't I don't kill spiders It depends If it's like a black widow Yeah I'm probably gonna kill it
Starting point is 00:13:44 Hope Yeah You know If it's like a black widow, I'm probably going to kill it, Hope. Yeah. You know? If it's one that holds babies, because I have many of those. The wolf. I think they're called wolf spiders. There's ones that hold babies.
Starting point is 00:13:55 When you smack them, they spread, the babies. That's the only reason you won't do it, so they don't spread their child. Their children. I don't want their their their child children to the child their children i don't want extra spiders right oh it's just the thought of that absolutely not that happening their day they're gonna do it anyway okay eventually they're gonna come off so what yeah but i just move on go on your way i mean if they're inside but usually I always see them outside, the ones that have the babies. I tried to save, back in the day when I was a realtor, I love spiders.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I think they're so good for us. They are. Not this one. So I tried to save this wolf spider. And it was in a garage and somebody was going to kill it. I was like, no, no, no. Let me just, because my dad had a triantula when I was growing up.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So I held a triantula. Not ones that had their stingers removed or whatever. I mean, it's not that scary. Vanessa, what did you say? Yeah, it's not that scary. Okay. Vanessa, what'd you say? Yeah, it is. Well, I get it because I don't like snakes. But, and Tao loves snakes.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah. Not me. My kids love reptiles. I don't like reptiles. I don't like, but I'll do a spider. Spiders, okay. So what did you do with this wolf spider?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Well, I tried to save its life. How? Well, because the person was going to kill it, so I proceeded to go and catch it. With your hands? Mm-hmm. Okay. Then the thing freaking bit me.
Starting point is 00:15:38 No way. Like there's no tomorrow. Oh my gosh. It scared me. A wolf spider? Yeah. Yeah. Like it was a scared me. A wolf spider? Yeah. So, yeah. Like, it was a big one.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Are they dangerous? Well, probably not. They don't have venom. No, well, I'm alive. True. Well, I'm pretty sure it's okay. Black widow is not going to kill you. Okay?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Ease up, shorty. You're all scared about the black widow. It ain't. It's going to hurt. But this thing bit me and it stung. It died. kill you okay ease up shorty you're all scared about the black widow it ain't it's gonna hurt but this thing bit me and it stung it died because i screamed really loud and pitched the thing across the room it hit the the cement wall the block wall in the garage. You heard it hit. It was so big. Yeah. You heard it hit. I'm like, it's gone. It's dead.
Starting point is 00:16:27 What I tried to do and save, I ended up killing it after all. Yeah. And then I was wounded. Oh, my gosh. That thing stung like a bee. Yeah. For a really long time. Like, at least a good hour, my hand hurt.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Oh, my gosh. Never again. I say when I saw that, when I see them that big I'm like, you're on your own. I'm not going to kill you, but I ain't going to save you. Absolutely not. That's how I roll. Absolutely not. That's how I roll. So we're going to pray against that beast before we
Starting point is 00:17:01 close out today. Do you want me to show them what a wolf spider looks like in case they're from? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what she tried to pick up. Oh, that's what I did pick up. That's what she picked up. This thing is like the size of your palm, if not bigger. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 It was big. They're humongous, if you don't know. Because some people, I didn't know until I moved here what a wolf spider was. That was it right there. That's... No, thank you. Yeah. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:24 I was doing some pest control that day. Are you kidding me? Are you gagging over there for real? She just showed or pulled up a spider with babies on their back. Are you seriously gagging? Man, two podcasts in a row for poor Vanessa. What is it? I just looked up.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Can they bite? They do bite. They do, yeah. I just looked up. They do bite. They do. Yeah. I just looked it up too. And they are not venomous. Spider's bite. No.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Images. I can't open my eyes until I know it's gone. This thing? Ew. What the heck is that? Oh gosh. Okay. It does look funny.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'll see if I can find it after we pray. Well, we're going to pray at the end. Okay. Okay. Okay. She's saving it. I don't know. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:18:13 The only issue with our system is they're not Macs. If these were Mac books, we could like airdrop stuff. We could pull stuff up real fast. I have to like airdrop it to myself. Can you put it in mine? Yeah, we're going to put it. Okay, And Dropbox, anything, any of my folders. Well, the problem is, is we, you know, Erin is a Mac person too. I know it doesn't, I know. But it doesn't, it doesn't cooperate. Right. It doesn't with the software that we have. Poor Vanessa. She's turning her back. Vanessa,
Starting point is 00:18:41 I am a sensitive gagger. Like I have a very high, I have a low tolerance for things. Okay, I am a sensitive gagger. I have a very high I have a low tolerance for things. I gag like that. You're beating me by a mile. Normally you don't gag. I'm hitting all your triggers. Yeah, you are. I didn't even know I had triggers.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I didn't even know I had. Is it gone? No, it's not even close to being gone. Okay, we're trying to do a JPEG because the other one wasn't working. Here it comes. Here it comes. Oh, wow. Gosh, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Holy Moses. What is that? That's a wolf spider. Hello. Got a lot of babies. That's babies. Those are babies on the back. Here, Vanessa.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Look at this one. No. No. My hair. Here, Vanessa. Look at this one. No. No. My hair. Oh, my gosh. Oh, gosh. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Other side. Literally. Literally. All right. Well, I'm. Look. Okay. I'm done with the spiders.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm watching Vanessa in the screen. Turn it off. Oh, my gosh. For Vanessa. Two in a row. For Vanessa. Okay. All done.
Starting point is 00:19:43 All done. It's all good. Okay. Shout out to my friend, Pastor Clover, who had her birthday. I know. Happy birthday, Pastor Clover. She's got, I think, she's got a ladies' conference. Not a ladies' conference. She has a ladies' night.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. I'm going to go. If some ladies want to go with me, we're going to go down there November 8th. Yes. November 8th. It's before your birthday. Yeah. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:20:09 This is our girl right in the middle. Happy birthday, Pastor Clover. She made her own little peanut. That's right. Our sweet girl. I mean, I'm planning on it. I'm not 100% sure. Just yet.
Starting point is 00:20:24 But I'm hoping. I'm hoping I it. I'm not 100% sure. Just yet. But I'm hoping. I'm hoping I can do that. But between your birthday and Norma's birthday, you guys might jack me up a little bit on that. I know. And then Vanessa just had her birthday.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Vanessa, what number? 21. Dang, you look good. Vanessa, what number? 21. Dang, you look good. Dang, you look good. Oh, man. You didn't age past 19. No, she did not.
Starting point is 00:20:57 You're welcome. No, 39. Sweet. Then the Puerto Rican twins just had their 40th. They did. Adalas Magalas. Because their podcast balloon said 28. sweet then the Puerto Rican twins just had their 40th 40th they did did they that's why I was confused Adalas Magalas because their podcast balloon
Starting point is 00:21:08 said 28 I was like there's no way they're 28 no they're 40 mentally yeah
Starting point is 00:21:14 they had a nice little party for them me and Tom I wanted to go but they said it was really fun they had karaoke oh my gosh
Starting point is 00:21:23 I can't even imagine karaoke that would have been fun yeah volunteer They said it was really fun. They had karaoke. Oh, my gosh. I know. I can't even imagine. Karaoke. That would have been fun. Yeah. Volunteer dinner. We can do karaoke. I don't want those people.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'll be first. Not going to happen, ladies. Not going to happen. Bad. Not on my watch. What? You love karaoke. I've been to too many bad worship nights where people get to get up there and do their thing
Starting point is 00:21:46 there's too many Christians at this one so bad so bad this is smaller but our volunteer dinner is very large
Starting point is 00:22:03 maybe we'll find some new talent, though. No. That's good. No. Erin will kill me. Erin will kill me. I do like a lip sync. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:14 You know? That might work. Lip sync competition. Yeah. I don't know. Oh. Scary. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So we've conquered Patty. Yes. Patty's done. Sorry. You told us we've conquered Patty. Yes, Patty's done. Sorry, you told us too early. Yeah. Right. We own it. That's the whole thing. They've got a whole bunch of crapola.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They show all their cards. They do. As if we don't know. As if we don't know. Well, a lot of people don't. I know, that's true. That's the problem. That's true.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And they'll be like, that's crazy talk. Right. Yeah, well, sorry. Right. But it's very convenient for certain people. So, anyways. All righty, let's roll. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Okay. Okay. First question. Hope, what are your thoughts on breaking an engagement? I have a friend who got engaged and realized they shouldn't marry this person. Is it a sin to call off a wedding? Heck no, it ain't no sin. It's the best thing you probably ever can do if you think that, if you realize you missed
Starting point is 00:23:21 it and that everybody should ask and pray, Lord, is this the one that you have for me? Actually, you shouldn't just ask and pray. You should fast and pray and then pray for confirmation if this is the one you should marry. And if you didn't do that or if you just fasted or if you just prayed and you missed it because it was more your flesh than it was the Lord, get out. Like I was, Vanessa's got a great story, but I will tell you, I have, when I was much younger, I had, I went to church and this guy was a Navy SEAL and he was hot as dookie and i'm not kidding you he was beautiful he went to church and i hated his girlfriend because she was beautiful too and
Starting point is 00:24:13 but something just wasn't right and they got engaged and uh i mean they were like the couple that everybody's like, they're beautiful, you know? And it looked like it was perfect. And the night before they got married, he backed out. Oops. The night before. Yikes. You know what I say to that? Kudos.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Better now. Because guess what? I've also had friends, two friends, that on the honeymoon night knew that they shouldn't have gotten married. On the honeymoon night, they were crying. What did I do? Oh, my God. What did I do?
Starting point is 00:24:56 Why did I do this? Huge regret. You know why they had huge regret? Because they didn't have the guts to do what they should have done and back out. Yeah. Because you know what? It takes a lot of balls to say, you know what? Even the night before, so much money had been sent.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Her family lost lots of money. Yeah, right. But it would cost them way more for them to get married, to have children, then to have a divorce. And then the children, the family experience devastation on a whole grander scale. And it took a lot of guts for that guy to say, you know what? I can't do this. I'm not doing this. Like, this is a mistake whereas the other friends um they they they one of them that
Starting point is 00:25:50 i is still married and she's miserable that's the worst miserable cried on her wedding night yeah miserable um that but the other one i don't know also not happy on their wedding night but i don't know if they're i don't really have a contact so i don't know. Also not happy on their wedding night. But I don't know if they're, I don't really have a contact. So I don't know if they're still together. But yeah, it's the cowardly. It's the cowardly that don't do what they're supposed to do. True. And just stay married or go and get married because they don't have the guts to say.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Right. They don't want to disappoint people or. gotta disappoint you have to I've known people I have two friends a whole nut like if I told if I told you how many people I know that are miserable in their marriage you'd be astounded it's it's it's so bad um but it's crazy because i had two friends i can think of off the top of my head both of them i said don't get married do not get married you're gonna like regret this decision one of them two oh i've said it to way more than that okay i've said that way more to people like you can just see an accident waiting to happen. Like you can see a head on collision if you pay attention and you try and warn people and that most people won't listen to you because they want what they want. Yeah. Or they think you're wrong and whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:16 These two incidences, the only two that I can really recall where they came back and said, you were right. One is divorced and they actually could get divorced because there was, there was adultery involved. Thank you Lord for them because it was a miserable marriage, but they came and they said, you were so right. Like I was, I don't even know what I was thinking, but I was so wrong. And, and they got lucky because they, they could get out. I was, I don't even know what I was thinking, but I was so wrong. And they got lucky because they could get out.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And that was a miserable marriage. Then there's another one where there isn't adultery and she's stuck and she's told me, if I had to do it all over again, you were right. I don't know why. I just wanted, I thought I would have a lifestyle that I, you know, better just wanted. I thought I would have a lifestyle that I, you know, better than what she had grown up with. It all looked fantastic on the outside,
Starting point is 00:28:16 but spiritually speaking, if you're, if you're a spiritually minded person, you know, this is not going to line up. This is not going to be good. And it hasn't been. And if you think, like for me, I sit there and go, people think, well, I'll have a great home. He probably won't cheat on me. But my thing is, is this, what kind of kids will you raise? Will they go to heaven? Will they be saved? Because you're not equally yoked. He may go to church, but he may not really serve the Lord. He just goes to church, and he has a really mediocre relationship with the Lord. If he has one, a lot of times these guys will go to church, but their lifestyle is not good. They talk and sound like the world, act like the world, and then your kids get to experience that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And now you've got not only your husband that you want to try and get saved, now you've got to worry about your kids going to heaven. For And now you got not only your husband that you want to try and get saved, now you got to worry about your kids going to heaven. I just, for me, I'm like, it's such a big deal. But Vanessa's story is beautiful. And by the way, before you say anything, by the way, there are plenty of people in this church, and we've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:29:23 There's plenty of people in this church that I will say have, like we were headed for divorce, but this church saved us. Okay, the reason the church saved them is because they heard the word, they listened to the word, and then they implemented the word. It was nothing but them. They were like the guy who said, I cannot marry you the night before you're supposed to get married. They did something about something that was not right. And these people that actually have stronger marriages now than when they walked in, it's because both people implemented the word of God into their life. And now everything is radically changed.
Starting point is 00:30:02 So if you have a stinky marriage, does that mean you're doomed? No, not at all. Because we've seen it over and over and over again where people are living success stories. So it doesn't have to be like that. Because I love this, Vanessa. Like beast mode. Love it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Go ahead. So I was actually thinking about this question on the way here because i knew it was going to be brought up and i was just thinking like if i would have gone through my first engagement and gotten married what would my life look like right now like who you marry is so important aside from choosing jesus who you marry is like number right there it's like right below choosing jesus and so i'm thinking like i would probably be in the middle of like oklahoma maybe probably Wouldn't have my my the same friends church like my life would completely be different. Yeah. But we were high school sweethearts.
Starting point is 00:31:14 We we dated all through high school and on paper. It looked amazing because he was the youth pastor's assistant. He we attended the same church. We were that couple that you described, like everyone, like they put us on a pedestal, right? We were the example and behind closed doors, like it was not good at all. And he went out to the military. And so when he left, his hold on me kind of weakened because he wasn't because he wasn't present all the time to control me. And so and during that time, I got closer like with my walk with the Lord and I like started praying about this and I had zero peace.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Like we were going to get married. Like I had a ring on my finger. We were planning our wedding and I just had zero peace. And finally we had another fight that he initiated even from Texas where he was stationed. And I was getting ready to actually meet him in Texas for a Navy ball because every year they have these fancy like balls. Heather used to go to them all the time. Yeah. So I just, we had this, this fight and I just, I thought for a second, like, is this what I'm signing up for? Like I saw my life flash through my eyes and,
Starting point is 00:32:41 and I didn't like what I saw and I just, I had zero peace and I just knew that I couldn't, I just couldn't. So, um, I never got on that plane and he went to the airport to pick me up and I never walked out of the terminal. And that was the, that was the last time he called me. I told him I wasn't going to be there. We had a short conversation. That was the last time he called me. I told him I wasn't going to be there. We had a short conversation. That was the last time I spoke to him or even saw him. That's wild. Wild. To this day. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:11 If somebody does something like that, if somebody doesn't get on a plane and doesn't and has the person show up. I know. That you would sit there and go that's yeah but in order for somebody to be pushed to that place it's because the odds are there's been bad treatment and women by nature and even like men who are with high-maintenance women like don't value value. I know men that don't value what they have to offer, and so they put up with a lot of nonsense from a high-maintenance woman that just downright nasty people.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Men can be the same way, but sometimes they can tend to be more physical, which I don't think that was your case or anything like that. But eventually, you can to be more physical, which I don't think that was your case or anything like that. But eventually you can push somebody so far. They're like, I'm done and I'm going to do something that normally would be unthinkable for me. I'm going to do it because you've pushed me so far that, you know what? You're going to get a little, you know, taste of your own medicine. And that's why I tell this day when people ask about like,
Starting point is 00:34:26 what should I do? Like what, like follow the peace. Follow the peace. Because I had zero peace walking into that marriage. And see, here's the thing. Sometimes people have moments of peace and then moments of I got to get out. Don't think that those moments of peace are gonna supernaturally be overcome with consistently peace over the I gotta get out right you don't marry until
Starting point is 00:34:57 you have 100% peace and I had confirmation, peace. And it's just this kind of peace where it just like, I don't know, it just like overtakes you. You couldn't imagine not. Like when I met Jeff and we decided to get married and follow through, like it was night and day. Night and day from the first, the first experience, the first engagement. Yeah. And I just had so, so much peace. And on paper, let me tell you, the first engagement. Yeah. And I just had so much peace.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And on paper, let me tell you, Jeff was a hot mess. God knew what he was going to be. Yes. And you know what? I sit there and I think that some people are so afraid that if they walk away from this relationship, whether you're engaged or not but it's your in deep if I walk away from this like I'm gonna have to start all over and will I meet somebody like and how long is that gonna take and now like I want to have
Starting point is 00:35:58 kids and it's gonna be probably a year now I like that depends on how long it takes me to meet the person. So you start thinking of all these things and you talk yourself out of doing what you know you really should do. Yeah. True. And I'm just saying it's worth it. It's worth it because you just, a lifetime of misery over,
Starting point is 00:36:22 over a couple years or less of like having to walk through the what-ifs or the navigating through waters you've never done before disappointing people or a person far outweighs making the worst decision you can make in your life. And I say that Jeff was a hot mess on paper just because he didn't have a lot to offer me at the time. You know, he had just, you know, been radically saved. He didn't have a ton. Like, I think he was making $70 a week at that point.
Starting point is 00:37:03 But he loved the Lord. And I can see it in everything he did and said and his life bore a lot of fruit. And so I just knew, like you said, like I just knew that if I stuck with him, like the Lord was going to use him in a mighty way. And I wanted to be a part of that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just have seen it. I just, it's so sad because if you look at the statistics of Christian marriages along with just the world, they are so close as far as success and failure. Divorce rates are almost right there with each other. And it's high. Divorce rate is so high. It's almost 50%. I mean, that's nuts. Absolutely crazy. That is nuts that the divorce rate in the Christian community and the world,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I think the world is 51%. I think Christian community is 49. It's somewhere right around in there. So if you think about that, you really, you, it really should jerk your chain. And I'm not kidding you. It should jerk your chain, whether or not you want to step into something that you are not 100% convinced is what the Lord is telling you to do. And again, it may look good. It may sound good. And people might be cheering you on and saying, this is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But if you have just one inkling of going, I don't know about this. I just don't know if this is the right person. Don't do it. Don't do it right don't do it either push it back until you know because you can always postpone or get the heck out because some people actually know they're just too afraid to do the to do the dirty deed of saying i'm not marrying you because they are crushing the other individual you know know what? You'll crush them if all through your whole married life, they don't measure up and you treat them as though they don't
Starting point is 00:39:09 measure up. And you will because you might resent them or you'll be miserable. So the relationship will never be all that it should be, should have been. Trust me on this. So both people will not be happy. Right. You might as well just for a moment in time do the the tough thing and then release each other so that you guys can have the best of the best in the future but i don't know most people won't do that they will not do that and um for me like this is so interesting there's something like this is interesting. Like, we've had a lot of relationship questions. It's just like when we were going through gossip.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Remember when we were going through gossip? Yeah. And I was like, something's going on. Yeah. Well, like, we've had a lot of relationship things recently. And now this thingy. I sit there and go, there's somebody. And I'm just telling you, if you are people that are encouraging somebody or people to get married,
Starting point is 00:40:08 because I know this is happening because I've seen it. If you are encouraging people to get married and people should just stay out of it. They really should. They should stay out of whether people should get married or not. Because you can influence people whether you believe it or not. And they won't hear the voice of the Lord. They'll hear your voice. And that doesn't mean that they should because you think that they make a great couple.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That doesn't mean that God thinks they make a great couple. Yeah, I agree. Because he knows a lot about people and what people don't know about each other. True. People don't always see the truth about they only see the facade that people portray absolutely and you don't know you think you know you don't know and a lot of people oh no i'm telling you i've known these people for years or whatever you don't know trust me on this you don't know and you don't know. Trust me on this. You don't know. And you don't know that these people would make a good match. Let God be the one that puts people together and let God be the one that
Starting point is 00:41:10 says perfection. So Tracy, you've been quiet. You got anything to say? I think the only other thing that we didn't really touch on is let's say you get married to somebody that you just settled for. Then you have kids. And then at some point you resent, like you were saying, it builds up, you resent somebody. And then you have made a really terrible decision and had an affair.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Then you realize I shouldn't have done that. Then you want to go back to your husband. And it gets so messy that a lot of people even get to the place of, they don't want to be here anymore. Like it's almost like the shame and the guilt because your kids know now and now it's everybody knows. And so I know people personally that have made that exact like scenario play out. And suicide was definitely unaliving you. Something that was a conversation that was had. Um, and that's so sad.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And it's like, if you can prevent that from happening from the very beginning. So even if you think you're taking the easy route out by not confronting it right away, understand like 20 years from now, if you don't make it right and you know that, you know, inside, you're not supposed to make that decision. Just, you just don't make the, it you know that you know inside you're not supposed to make that decision, just don't make the—it's never easy. At some point, that hard part's going to come out. And how sad would it be if somebody ended their life because they didn't make the hard decision immediately? You know what I'm saying? Listen, that's funny, but when Tom worked for the sheriff's office, the guy he worked with,
Starting point is 00:42:42 he worked with him on New year's eve night and i think it was a week or two later he committed suicide because his wife was leaving him yeah it happens it does it does it happens so sad marriage it's so sad and kids were involved and yeah it's it's like that's why i'm so i'm a stickler on this guys i'm a stickler. I think the peanut gallery is too. I'm a stickler on it because it's forever. It is forever. And you better know, like for me, as much as Tom like bashes himself and says like he's difficult to live with, he causes all the problems in the house and stuff like that. He's such an easy person to live with.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And he's like, I can say anything. Like, I can say anything for the most part. Obviously, you don't say anything that's not respectful or honoring. Or I don't, when I say I can say anything, I don't call him names. I don't belittle him. That's not what I mean. My point of view is very important. I can say what that I don't call him names. I don't belittle him. That's not what I mean. My point of view is very important. I can say what I need to say.
Starting point is 00:43:49 It's never demeaned or, or treated poorly. Um, he, he's mostly quiet, right? Like if he's, if he's going through,
Starting point is 00:44:02 so like you guys have seen, not so much Vanessa, but Tracy, like if you do business with him, you know, like if he's in that zone or if he's got something on his mind, if something's bothering him, he's usually praying it through. You kind of just like, yeah, leave him alone and let him work it through. But he's never mean. He's never nasty. You just know he needs a space.
Starting point is 00:44:31 My hope is, and what I want is, for everybody to have a marriage like mine. And I'm sure you guys, too, would say that about yours. Because there is no fighting. There's no arguing. There's a lot of laughter. There's a lot of joy. And, I mean, we have a lot of fun. And there are moments where you just get on each other's nerves but even in that it's like right it's not a big deal it's like it's so few and far between and it really is not a big deal it's like your kids when they get on your nerves exactly
Starting point is 00:45:00 it's just like that with your spouse most marriages are not like that though correct most don't have it where it's a child a parent-child kind of thing where it's like you know that your kid just irritated the crap out of you you're gonna get over in about two seconds and it's me who cares that's how it is in my marriage like nothing really Heather and Travis same exact thing. I don't know very many success stories though, guys. I know more that are not good than they are. And my hope and my desire is that for my children, but not just my children, but my friends, my church family, anybody that's within the voices of this podcast, they will have what I have because it's possible. Yeah, absolutely. And people think it's impossible. They go, marriage is tough. Marriage is not tough.
Starting point is 00:45:52 It does not have to be tough. It can be like every day can be pretty dang great. Yes. I don't wait for Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day is nothing to me. Yeah. Like, I don't have to like, I don't know. Tom and Tommy left for Jacksonville last night. Like, and the,
Starting point is 00:46:11 it was just saying goodbye to him. It was just a sweet, I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, man, most women don't have, don't have that.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Like that moment where he and I just, it's just brief, but I'm just saying, I wish people did. But I do know, like I do know people in this case, which you were talking about too,
Starting point is 00:46:34 I do know people who have gotten divorced and gotten back together when they spiritually, they weren't living for the Lord correctly. Then they got their lives right, reconnected, re-got married, and it's a beautiful thing. So I'm not saying it's not all negative. There's lots of positives.
Starting point is 00:46:56 But biblically speaking, you've got to be doing the biblical things to make that happen. Because he causes all things to work for our good, right? And so he can turn it around. But the scripture after that says, if we are doing what the word says. Exactly. And most people only stick to Romans 8, 28. They don't dig deeper.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah, true. Or before. The one's before and the one's after. They only look at the one scripture verse. Very true. Yeah. But he does work all things together for our good. But we to be doing our part if we're diligent in doing our part yep yeah absolutely i actually have something oh look at here
Starting point is 00:47:35 so i was listening to jesse duplantis today shocker and your faith he was actually talking about financial. This was financial wise, but the Lord just showed it to me relationship wise on having enough and then having all. And he gave the story about the two brothers. I forget their names. And one was like, here, the Lord told me to give this to you. He was like, no, I have enough. He said, but I have all. And it's like with relationships, people get, people get so desperate that they settle for people. They're like, this person is enough for me. Like I have enough. I it's like with relationships, people get so desperate that they settle for people. They're like, this person is enough for me. Like, I have enough.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I'll take it. No, you should want it all. It should be, I have everything I've ever wanted. This person is all I've ever wanted and more. You shouldn't settle it. So you not get to that point. You should wait until you have that person that you know that you know that this is the person. And that you have it all with them.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I agree with you that is that that's probably some that's probably if not the best thing said about this then i'm not kidding you no it's true a hundred percent that is exactly how it should be yeah is this person more than enough or are you settling with this person's just enough? Right. You should have more than enough. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Tom was saying to me a couple of weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:48:54 cause we talk about the subject quite often. He's like, why would somebody marry somebody that they can live without? Right. You should marry somebody you can't live without. Absolutely. But people marry, I know that sounds crazy, but people will marry people that they can live with.
Starting point is 00:49:18 That should never be. You should never pick the person, I can live with them. No, I can't live without them. That's who you pick, which is basically what Ty is saying. And that's really most people don't do it that way. Right. That's because most people settle everywhere else in their life. Right. Like those people that settle for a husband or a wife, they're probably settling where they work. They're probably settling everywhere. I think what mediocre. Well, the thing is, I think there's something to be said for that. To be perfectly honest with you.
Starting point is 00:49:48 When you get used to just settling and you live a comfortable life, you're like, well, I can do this. The problem is, is when you add an, being comfortable in your job or being comfortable with your family and just the existence of how things are and this
Starting point is 00:50:05 is just how it's always been but then you add another person to that that you can't control right and doesn't meet all of the criteria you you may be you know settle but you're going to be miserable. And that's what people forget. Settling in a marriage is way different than settling in a job. Oh, 100%. Or it could just be okay when it could be great. You know? Yep. Why not choose great? And the shorter you date somebody, the less you know how great it is. Because everything seems great when you first start dating.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Right. It's all fun. So you start dating the person and that's the honeymoon phase. Right. And it's great. And then you jump straight from the dating to maybe. You know, six months you date. You're barely out of the honeymoon phase. If at all out of the honeymoon phase. And then you get engaged. And then that has its honeymoon phase.
Starting point is 00:51:16 You've never even experienced this person. You've gone from highs to highs to highs. You're about to see the lows. I'm telling you. Yeah. You're about to see them. You don't think you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:29 You are, because you didn't use wisdom in what you were doing. Right. Facts. Not good. Facts. It's interesting, too, because that's something on Tuesday we talked about at Abide,
Starting point is 00:51:41 was the difference between settling and contentment and being content. Like some people that set exactly people that settle sometimes will be like, well, I'm just content. Like I just I want to I don't want to live above my means. And you can taste the grossness of it. And so there is a total difference between settling and being content in where God has you right now in this moment, not trying to get to another level where you're not ready yet, but you're not settling. And I think some people are just confused between the two.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, that's not contentment. Right. That's just getting by. It is. Just getting by to get by. Oh, my gosh. When life is like there's life in abundance. Amen.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Right. Right. Yep. It's like finances. Just barely getting by in finances. When really, you could be having an abundance. That doesn't mean there are times that it's like we're building this garage. And I was telling Bill, me and Bill were laughing
Starting point is 00:52:46 because Bill builds things all the time. And I was saying to him, like, this thing is a beast. This garage has, first of all, I call it the Tower of Babel because the rules changed in 2023, unbeknownst to, like, and Bill, God bless him, he fights a good fight. But we have, have like the highest garage known to man which we'll end up like i'm no complaints i mean when it's all said and done we'll be very very happy i'm not i'm not saying we're not but i was telling him because he keeps
Starting point is 00:53:18 telling me all the things and yesterday i was like cha-ching cha-ching cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. But I've seen God's hand over and over and over again in this to help us save on the finances of it. But you sit there and go, this is where it's fun to see. But there are times, I'll be honest with you, there are times even through this process that I have had, in my fasting, I've had to be like, Lord, I know what your word says. I know that I live had in my fasting. I've had to be like, Lord, I know what your word says. I know that I live in abundance.
Starting point is 00:53:48 And I don't know how this is all going to play out because I was just telling me and Bill were just talking about this before I came. I don't know how it all worked out, but it always works out. Always. But in the midst of it, you're sitting there going dollars, dollars, dollars, dollars, dollars.
Starting point is 00:54:01 But we live in abundance. Right. And that's what you have to remember. You get in the wrong mindset, though, you can live we live in abundance. Right. And that's what you have to remember. You get in the wrong mindset, though, you can live in a poverty mindset. And that's where, like, Bill lives in not a poverty mindset. He lives like us.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And he and I were conversing about that. I was like, you're almost like, why did we do this? And he goes, oh, every project. I'm like, why did I do this? Oh, yes. It is like that. But if you laugh about it yeah instead of going i'm fretting i'm worried oh my gosh right i'm not fretting i'm not worried yeah i'm actually interested in seeing how
Starting point is 00:54:35 god works it all out because i know it'll work all out but in the process you just sit there and go holy moly what's the what that was me building my house during COVID. During the lumber spike. Everything kept going up, coming up. It's like, what? Everything. What are we doing? Why do we do this now?
Starting point is 00:54:54 But let me tell you, God showed up. He always does. And in wild ways. And we're like, okay, we're not. Listen, we reflect the kingdom that we follow, God's kingdom. And so it's just, he is, his kingdom is more than enough, right? And so that's how we live. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And it's like Tom's, that quote that you posted this week about Tom, about where's your seed being sown? It matters. Where your seed is sown is how you get the return. Right. And that's very, very important. Where are you sowing your seed is sown is how you get the return. Yes. And that's very, very important. Where are you sowing your seed? So for me, I know where my seed is sown. I'm very comfortable in that.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I know that. I know my return is coming. Even with the church, I mean, guys, like this church, we don't make a big deal out of it at all. And we're not going to. But it's just like me talking with Bill. It's like, it's a never ending dollar signs, dollar signs. And you just sit there. You don't worry about it. I don't worry about it. I don't worry about the garage. I don't worry about the church. I know
Starting point is 00:55:57 that this is God's business, right? That's it. And it's going to be all okay. And it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out, but it's going to play out and it's going to be all okay. And it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out. But it's going to play out and it's going to play out in our favor. Amen. And we're going to win and we're going to be successful. And that's the big thing. And that's how you have to look at it. But going back to marriage, that's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Set yourself up for success or set yourself up for failure. You don't pay your tithes. You don't give in your offerings. You're setting yourself up for failure right you don't pay your tithes you don't give in your offerings you're setting yourself up for failure you will live complacent you will live paycheck to paycheck you will live a simple barely getting by you might not get by you will not be satisfied right very complacent yep so i don't know how it all happened into that but let's go to the sponsors really quick we've got four minutes okay and then we're gonna answer a really quick question i know i know i know so it's gone by fast laura keller and real estate appraisal
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Starting point is 01:00:25 and I'm going to go to a super easy one because we've got one minute left, and then I'll have all you girls answer this. I haven't really thought about this question because it's way down there, but I did see it, so I'm going to skip like two questions. It says, have you had any of your beliefs change over the last 10 years? I saw this one. I haven't really thought about it. Yeah. It says, have you had any of your beliefs change over the last 10 years? Hmm. I saw this one. I haven't really thought about it.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Have I had my beliefs change over the last 10 years? Probably. Yeah, because what about women preachers? Was that in the last 10 years? No. Okay. No, that was just a little bit before. Oh, was your belief change about vomiting about the divorce thing oh isn't that interesting yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's true i should be going like this yes
Starting point is 01:01:16 isn't that crazy did you look end up reading that that out, or did you just listen to what I said? I just listened to what you said, but. So good. It has made me curious to study it out for sure. You got to get, like I listened, I actually bought, and it wasn't that great, I'll be honest with you, but I did pull up a Perry Stone teaching on this, where he did on marriage and relationships. And he got to this part, and he basically said the same thing that I did.
Starting point is 01:01:48 It's very, very good, but he went into a little bit deeper as far as he told you the two philosophers at the time, which were, I think they were both Sadducees. When was the Sadducee, I think? I can't remember. But he explained their followings, like the liberal one versus the conservative one and the followings of the Jewish people who followed them. But it's just like today, because a lot of people followed the liberal one
Starting point is 01:02:21 because they could live however they wanted to live in the Jewish faith and do whatever the heck they wanted yeah it's super interesting even though they weren't sitting unless they didn't get the divorce right right yeah this is it's the divorce decree was it the work decree yeah something like that yeah but yeah yeah, yeah. But yeah, super. But I would say, well, my thought process changed meeting Pastor Rodney. Big time. He's changed me.
Starting point is 01:02:59 He's radically changed me. Probably Pastor Rodney and his teachings and his walk. I was just listening to Kenneth Hagin. And Kenneth Hagin, I felt like I was listening to Pastor Rodney. Because Kenneth Hagin used to, you know, Pastor Rodney probably followed him and listened to his teachings and stuff like that. I'm not saying he duplicated him, but it was like going to one
Starting point is 01:03:27 of the, it was in 2000. It was a big church that Kenneth Hagin went to and he had this service. And literally I felt like I was in a Pastor Rodney service. The joy broke out. People were like, prophecy, the whole thing. It was like, which I've heard him break out in joy before. You know, I've seen Kenneth Hagin do the run. I mean, he like gets so excited. But one of the things he, I was listening to this teaching today, and this radically made me think. Think about this. He said that Christians today don't really praise. They clap. They allow their clapping to be their praise. If you think about it, it's true. And he said the Lord told him that, hold on. He said the Lord told him, because it says praise is out of the mouth,
Starting point is 01:04:32 you praise the Lord, right? With your hands and stuff like that, you surrender and you praise. And he said the Lord told him that the world claps. He was like, he's like when they go to sports games, when they go to a concert, they clap. They give an applause. He goes, that's not what I asked for.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I didn't ask for applause. I asked for praise. So I started thinking. That's a good point. Interesting. Holy Moses. That's so true. A lot of times we do.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I'm getting louder on Sunday. Watch out. We do. A lot of times we clap on sunday we do we a lot of times we clap like we think clapping during the worship song right is praise that ain't praise that was good listen for my hallelujahs on sunday i'm gonna be listening girl okay so with our mouth we praise, not with our hands. And a lot of times people who are uncomfortable with that, that's what they'll do.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah. They'll clap. Yeah. They won't say it. It's socially acceptable too. Right. Everyone's doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah. So very interesting. I was like, that's a good lesson learned. But yeah, over 10 years, I think I have think I don't look the same as a Christian at all because I think God is constantly showing me where I'm wrong and what I need to change. And even some of my theological things are incorrect. But I like that.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I don't ever want to think that I'm married to a certain kind of thing where I'm right and I'm dogmatic about it. And I'm not movable. Yeah. We can be wrong. I'm not saying that I'm going to like. Easily shift. I'm not easily shifting. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And you like like you have to be somebody in my life. Yeah. To speak those kinds of things. For me, I was taught prosperity in one way growing up where it wasn't a good thing. Oh, interesting. And you almost have to take like a vow of poverty, you know, growing up to be holy and righteous. And so the way I view prosperity now is completely different. Absolutely. 100%. And I was just taught wrong. And it was my fault. I was, I was brought it.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I was a child, you know, but now that I study the word for myself, I'm able to see prosperity, prosperity in the way that, you know, lens of who, of who of god yes and it's so freeing and it's like so many people are like they've boxed themselves in and they can be living a more abundant life and not so that i can accumulate more things but the more prosperous we are the more we can do oh yeah we can radically change the lives around us and not even touching us through others. We can radically be a part of souls. I know it's crazy. I know that it would mean that you would age. Probably. Yeah. I would think so with you Trace I have two things that just came to mind one is women's groups
Starting point is 01:07:48 I thought I would never ever ever be in a women's group ever again and now you lead one and now we have 40 something people that's like Andrew Womack who said I'll never have a school so you learned you were wrong I know I was definitely wrong
Starting point is 01:08:04 and it was just because every single one I attended or tried to lead never have a school. I know. So you learned you were wrong. I know I was definitely wrong. Yeah. And it was just because every single one I attended or tried to lead was always a book study because I just owe it or like it. I don't know. It was just like it was authentic. It was a good idea. Yeah. You know, and it wasn't God being like, why don't you do that? And I'm like, I tried that. Wasn't fun. Yeah. And it really depends. I mean, like again, I know you hate when I say, like sing your praises, but when you set up a level for people to come into this church and believe what they believe, it's easier for us to branch off and lead people that you already set the foundation for us,
Starting point is 01:08:37 for believers that are coming in. Like they already know what to expect Sunday to Sunday. So when they meet in our house, it's not like, oh, I didn't know you guys believe this. So it just sets us up for success to lead a group. Yeah, I see what you're saying with that. Yeah, so that was one. And then God is in control. I always believed God was in control.
Starting point is 01:08:58 And so that, yeah, that just sets your mind, but it never made sense to me because I was like, how could God be okay with a kid who's two years old and has leukemia and is dying a terrible death? Like I didn't, it never made sense to me because I was like, how could God be okay with a kid who's two years old and has leukemia and is dying a terrible death? It never made sense to me, but it was like always said, God is in control. God is in control. And I'm like, well, if he's in control, then he's controlling a kid getting leukemia. And somebody's parent has to watch that. That sounds terrible. So it didn't make sense to me, but that's what I believed. And so just recently believing that in the believer's authority and understanding that God's sovereign.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And that's why that was probably one of my first commercials I ever made for this church was when Pastor Tom said, God is not in control. God is above all. He's sovereign. And so that was one of the first commercials. And it was probably one of the most powerful ones we put out because that like that hit me. And I was like, I already, at really at that point like I'm like yes thank you exactly he's not in control he's sovereign and so it did hit me at some point before coming here but I almost didn't have the verbiage for it and so when he said it I was like that is going to be a commercial yeah well you know why because people think sovereignty that him being sovereign means he is in control. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:06 That's not what that means. Right, exactly. People don't know that. I know. And so that one, yeah, that's definitely changed. And it's helped me just be a stronger believer and walk in like that I have the authority and like everything that happens around
Starting point is 01:10:19 is really my responsibility. And also Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy. Correct. It's not god and i knew that too so that's why it was so confusing when people said god is in control i'm like but what about satan what about people's carnality like i just couldn't the puzzle pieces all came together for you will right right exactly so it was that one was huge for me that god is sovereign and not in control. Like that just like, so when people say it now, I'm almost triggered by it.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I'm like, are we singing in a song? I'm like, that's all right. That's all right. That ain't true. Yeah. So awesome. That is awesome. Isn't that interesting?
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah. I think if you are always evolving, but again, I'd be very, very careful. Cause again, I was listening to Kenneth Hagen, and he was saying how people, when he was alive, that he would go to meetings. He would never take anything less than three weeks. And he could be there three to eight weeks, sometimes 12 weeks. And he's like, there's always somebody wanting to give him a word. And he said,
Starting point is 01:11:26 out of the hundreds of people wanting to give him a word, he's like, maybe a handful were actually from the Lord. So be very careful about that. Like people will want to change your perception, change your mindset. They want to give you some new way because there's always something new in the Christian world. Don't fall for it. Yeah. Be very careful who you listen to. I fast for a reason two times a week. I fast for a reason, two times a week. I fast for a reason so that I can be very discerning because I don't have that. That I can listen and hear the voice of the Holy Spirit like that. That when somebody speaks something to me, I'm like, that ain't right.
Starting point is 01:12:23 So that when I'm researching things, the Lord will lead me to the right things that I need to know about whatever I'm researching. There's something to be said. Don't let just anybody speak into your life. I mean, you can listen to people, but listening to them and letting them take root and have some kind of effect on you,
Starting point is 01:12:43 be very, very careful with that. And now I will tell you most of the time, I don't let them, even Kenneth Hagin was like, don't let people prophetically speak over you. It's dangerous. Don't let them do that. Don't take, don't just listen to anybody. We don't, and you shouldn't either. And in all of the churches that are the two churches that we're very closely associated with, they won't let anybody speak into the life of anyone when you're on the grounds of that church. And you shouldn't. You should be very careful about that.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And people should be diligent in protecting that. So let's pray over that storm because we know that storm is, I almost, I'm about to close out and I do not want to forget about this. Patty, go to hell where you belong. Amen. See you. In Jesus name. Heavenly Father, we just command this storm. We speak to it. Just like your word said to speak to the storm. We speak to this storm. Patty, you are going to die. You are not even going to become anything. In the name of Jesus, just like you thwarted the plans of the assassins who tried to take President Trump's life, you have a plan, and it will come to pass. And, Lord, I just speak to this storm.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Dissolve it. Disintegrate it right now. In the name of Jesus, let it never come to pass. Let it never be. Let it go right out into the Atlantic, way up into nothingness. And let a cold front just come, make the waters cold, blow that sucker out. In Jesus' mighty name we pray. Amen.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It is done. It is finished. So be it. Amen. Love you guys. See you on Sunday. Peace out.

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