The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S02-E71 | 11-17-2024
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Real Talk.
Real Talk.
Real Talk.
Hello and welcome to the Hope Hotline.
It is Wednesday, hot, hot Wednesday in November.
It is.
Very toasty. Very toasty.
Very toasty.
If this is the toastiest November,
like, what the heck?
But we have a cold front coming.
I know, this weekend.
We do?
Yes.
We do.
Low of 65, I think.
Come on.
Let's go.
I just got the best text.
Just now?
Just now.
Something that I have been praying over.
I literally want to jump out of this chair.
Do it.
Well, I don't want to be Tom Cruise over, what's her name?
Katie Holmes. her name Katie Holmes
looking like Katie Holmes but
praise God
hallelujah
I got a really good text
too another answer prayer
same is it from
a person starts with a T yep yes
sure is praise the Lord
amen he is faithful he is that's why we just trust his promises are yes
and amen let's go over praise the lord let's let's i'm gonna start a praise okay okay okay
okay praise dance oh my gosh so much to think Yeah. I know. In the middle of the night, God woke me up.
Really?
Like.
What time?
Because I was up at three.
Oh.
I want to say it was three, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
I literally was about to say, I think it was three, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
I didn't know what I was up to pray for, so I just prayed in tongues.
Well, I did.
But I was like.
Yeah. People. Yeah. Praise the Lord. I just prayed in tongues. Well, I did. But I was like, people. Praise the Lord.
I know. Amen.
Thank you, Jesus.
I'm so overjoyed right now.
Anybody who's ever stood
for somebody
understands.
That is the best
flipping text.
I can almost cry. This one's huge. This is a huge one. When that is the best flipping text. I know.
I almost cry.
This one's huge.
This is a huge one.
And this is what we were expecting.
But to like see it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To go to war like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Praise God.
Yeah.
And thank you, Courtney.
She donated $10 to the Hope Hotline
thank you sweet girl what is it something order in the court order in the court thank you
thank you order in the court thank you Talia's mother yep she said thanks mom
thanks mom I love it. So sweet. Oh, my gosh. I'm so.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
I'm so happy right now.
Yeah.
I knew it was going to happen.
I'm like you guys.
I know.
I literally knew.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
Not a shadow of a doubt.
Me either.
And I'm like, okay, now we're ready for the good news.
Yep.
Put that comment.
Yep.
Some are just sweeter than others. I know. It. Yep. Some are just sweeter than others.
I know. It's true. Just sweeter than
others. God bless it.
So good. That's why you
build yourself up
on your most holy faith. You really
do. And then you just see it.
Yep.
So good. So good. Listen,
if you don't have an army around you
standing with you,
get that army because I'm just telling you,
you see results when you, you know, never be so,
like a lot of times I'll try and take care of things, make some,
like if I'm walking through something, I'll try and handle it myself.
Right.
But then, you know, when you just,
you just got to bring in your people and then you see like things popping like popcorn.
And it's so cool too, because like, if God gives you the okay to bring in people,
then they get to be a part of like how you feel right now. Like if you didn't know about it and
you weren't invested in it, then you can't experience this like joy that you don't understand until you see somebody get an answered prayer. And so it's
just fun when people can rejoice with you and really rejoice. Not like, oh, happy to hear.
Like we're like, yes. Because here's the thing. Yeah. When it's your people standing with you.
Right. They literally care about you. Right. And they care about what you are believing and standing for.
Right, right.
So they're really going to go after it like you would go after it.
That's why I'm like, you got to have your people and you got to have the people who believe just like you do, which is it's always God's will.
Whatever, if you ask anything in my name, I will do it for you.
You got to have those people.
You do.
I know. will do it for you you got to have those people you do i know otherwise so you're going to just
though caution to the wind and like be on a wave that tosses to and fro and yeah like and for me
i'm like a bull in a china shop when it comes to this stuff like you do not relent i know and i'm
not like just gonna be in a boat that's going up and down, up and down and hoping for the best. Bull-loney.
Oh, my gosh.
Absolutely not.
You got to be fully convinced.
Fully.
That is a great way to say it.
Yeah.
You have to be fully convinced.
Yeah.
I know.
100%.
Everybody's missed it.
So we had a friend that was believing for something and it just came through.
So the chat's like, I missed it.
I missed it.
Just got the good report.
Yeah.
We just got a good report for somebody we were praying for.
Beyond good report.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I'm fighting back crying.
It's that big.
I mean, it's a big deal.
Things, like, it's a big deal.
Let it go.
I'm not crying.
I love that so much. I'm not crying.
I love that so much.
I'm not going to cry.
But I am really happy for people when they stand and they do not waver and they see God's hand move.
I'm really happy for them.
Me too.
And answered prayer, man.
Yep.
It's a beautiful thing.
I just love it.
Like all those videos that you do for people.
Yeah. I cry. Tom balls. I cry. I cry when he those videos that you do for people. Yeah.
I cry.
Tom balls.
I cry.
When he sees them, when he sees those.
And here's the thing.
If God does something for you like that,
you don't understand what a faith boost that is for people.
And I have so many people who will come and tell me,
like, you wouldn't believe what God did for us.
We were believing for this, or this church taught us to do this. And we stood on what we've learned.
And we saw it come to pass.
You tell them, you need to like share that.
I can't do that.
I just can't do that.
And I'm like, okay, well, hide your light under a bushel then.
You know, like, because that's what you're doing.
You're hiding your light under a bushel because what hope that you have for someone else.
And they'll literally look at you. People look at these videos and they go, well, I'm no different than that person.
Exactly. So if God did it for them, he's going to do it for me. There is no difference. It's not
like you're talking about Peter or Paul or John in the Bible. We're talking about people who are
actually living right now and experiencing life at its fullest, good and bad,
and seeing the miraculous take place financially, physically,
all different kinds of ways.
Yeah.
Emotionally, like you don't hide your light.
There's power in our testimony.
Yep.
Huge.
Yeah.
And it makes you walk in authority.
Absolutely.
When you are willing to share that testimony, you walk in authority,
and you literally are stomping on the neck of the devil.
Right.
And people don't realize that.
They're more concerned about, I might not say it correctly,
or I might fumble with my words.
And I'm a professional.
I know how to fix all that stuff.
So you can just come in, sit, tell your story,
and I'll make it look like you didn't mess up.
Yeah.
But literally, Tom, every time I show him one,
almost every single one of them, Tom cries.
Yeah.
They're powerful.
They are.
And he's so happy for the person that just.
It makes a difference.
Yeah.
You know, for me, a lot.
I know this sounds crazy because health ones,
you think that there would be ones that seem to be,
because like health ones sometimes are terminal,
but a lot of times health ones aren't terminal.
They're just, people are walking through pain daily, right?
And hey, listen, there's, I love those.
But when people experience financial freedom,
that to me is almost,
that almost makes me want to cry as much as the ones for people's health
because walking through financial,
desperate situations financially on a daily
is so hard on a family, on people.
And every day having to get up and face,
like counting the coins to make sure you have enough milk
or not sure if you're going to be able to pay your bills that month,
and then you experience the freedom of it.
That's huge.
That is huge for people to not have to think about that.
And that, again, is stomping on the neck of the devil.
Because the neck, hey, the devil destroys more families over finances.
Absolutely.
True.
So for me, those are just as powerful.
Absolutely.
And a lot of times people wonder why.
Like, I'm paying my tithe.
Why isn't it happening for me?
I sit there and go, and we just talked about this.
But I would sit there and say, well, are you spending wisely?
And make sure that if you're standing in faith
and you want financial freedom,
but if you're not and you're wondering,
because we just had somebody ask us a question about this,
and one of the things I forgot to mention is,
is are you being a good steward
of the money you're being given?
You can pay your tithe all you want to,
but if you're spending beyond your means,
it don't work like that.
Unless you're spending
and you actually have a way to pay off the debt
in another way.
Do you know what I'm saying?
It's faith without works, right?
It is.
So you gotta be a good steward.
Right, you gotta align your work with your faith.
Yeah.
I mean, I will say like Kenneth Hagin, sometimes he didn't have the money.
I use him, I think of him like, but he had the means to pay it off because he knew something
was coming in.
So if he went into debt in this area, then he knew that this was coming in.
So he was totally, it all worked out.
But if you can't do that, because I've heard a lot of pastors, they've had to buy things
and they gave away everything
and they still had this debt coming in.
Okay, you got to make sure
that you know that other finances
are coming in to pay off this in order
or that you can pay off this
before you start spending somewhere else.
So a lot of people will take the faith stance
and then they'll give everything that they
have away.
God didn't tell you to do that.
You just did it.
You got to be a good steward of your money.
So don't spend what you don't have.
And if you pay your tithes, God always fixes your mess.
But I'm one happy chick right now.
One happy chick right now one happy chick and thank you to the person that texted
if you're watching because which you probably aren't because you didn't know that i was on
that's okay okay i really want to talk about this that flipping hurricane what's that hurricane's
name it's gonna be sarah sar. So it's not a hurricane yet.
So its name is not.
Right.
Okay.
So yesterday I'm watching.
I don't know how I got this.
I think it came on because I was doing some research and Tom was doing his podcast.
This was late last night.
Okay.
And I saw that Flippin' thing.
Them saying that they was coming for Sarasota County,
Tampa to Naples.
Okay.
Now, Tracy, I called you later this afternoon because I was like, because I told you last
night, that's one of the reasons why I told you I want to talk about it because I had
seen it.
I don't know what time I, did I tell you that before Tom's podcast or after?
I don't know.
Before.
Before.
Okay.
Whatever time that was is when I saw that thing.
Yeah.
Okay. whatever time okay whatever time that was is when i saw that thing yeah okay because i said we're gonna pray over that flipping as a team as a group we're gonna pray over that thing because it worked
last time as far as sure it did sure it did it just dissipated just dissipated so um which was
miraculous so can you give us the updates because Because when I talked to you up until this morning,
everything was the same, correct?
Yeah.
Okay, tell them what you were telling me.
All right, so I'm going to show you some graphs.
So I woke up this morning, and it looked like this,
which obviously you can see at the bottom seven hours ago.
And this is just the different models that they're expecting.
The one on the right I really don't like.
All of them look pretty terrible.
That does not look good.
Majority of them obviously are heading directly to us.
If it goes into the panhandle, what they're saying is the water gets cooler and that it would be more of a tropical storm, which is why it's green.
Anything red is not good.
So then I saw that and I was like, well, that's not good.
And then this was the one that he shared this morning as well, six hours ago. And so let me
restart that so you can watch again. Play. Okay. So look at that. That's not good, right? No. Okay.
So then. No bueno. No bueno. So then three hours ago he said here we go model flipping
flip-flopping has begun which is good so now they're showing nothing for wednesday the run
before uh showed a hurricane um and then it tells a better percentage chance for sure land interaction
blah blah blah so this is showing it going exactly what the last one did which is going over the
yucatan and then going to the west and if it goes to the west it'll do exactly what the last one did, which is going over the Yucatan and then going to the West. And if it goes to the West, it'll do exactly what the last one did. It'll dissipate.
So, um, and then this is another one they just put out, which I haven't really looked
too much into, but some Wednesday afternoon models, weaker West all along still are.
So they're flip-flopping going back and forth, but it is looking way, way better.
So praise God.
So we're just going to make sure that we attack this because flipping-flopping is pretty normal when it comes to this kind of stuff.
It goes back and forth because it hasn't really done anything yet.
It's still hanging out way down there where they always hang out.
And the waters are very warm down there.
But we do have that cold front like Vanessa was saying.
Yeah, we have a cold front.
Yep, exactly. Okay, Vanessa, what are they saying that the temps are going to be this weekend? I
think a low of 65. Yeah. That has to make the waters colder, correct? So we have 65 for Thursday,
62 for Friday. These are all lows. 55 on Saturday, 58 on Sunday, and then 61 Monday. So these,
yeah, those are some cold temps.
That many number, that number of days consistently.
Yes.
Has to make the water cooler.
Absolutely.
It does.
God is going to take care of this for us.
Amen.
I just put on my Christmas lights today.
Oh my gosh. Exactly.
Those things can't go flying off.
No, absolutely not.
And Tommy just told me you got your house pumped.
Oh, it's a winter wonderland in there.
It's kind of swampy if I understand correctly.
Yeah, the swamp has gone down.
I mean, the two ponds in the front yard still exist.
Yeah, no, the front yard is completely dry.
Yeah.
The side yard.
Yeah.
It's still doing its thing.
It is.
It's crazy.
But the ducks and the ducklings have to be somewhere. Yeah, they's still doing its thing. It is. It's crazy. But the ducks and the ducklings have to be somewhere.
Yeah, they're still around.
They're in the side yard.
Both parents?
I mean, both sets of parents?
Just the one.
I think the other set, they're like grown babies.
They grow rapidly, these ducks.
I know, but both families looked like the ducklings were the same size to me.
Oh, no. They were deceiving. Yeah, I know, but both families looked like their ducklings were the same size to me.
Oh, no.
They were deceiving.
Yeah, I know.
One was significantly younger than the other set.
Okay.
So one set is still there.
She's still raising her family.
She's still doing her thing.
Doing her thing.
Was Daddy taking advantage of Mommy when you were screaming at it?
So when we had the both families, okay.
So I had Daryl and Cheryl.
Yes.
Okay.
Daryl was hanging out with the other wife.
Okay.
Tanya.
He was hanging out with Tanya and I wasn't having it.
Not on my property.
Absolutely not.
They were swinging. That is, that is sinful. They on my property. Absolutely not. They were swinging.
That is sinful. They were swingers. That is an anointed property.
Right. We will not be allowing
that kind of stuff. Adultery does
not, is not allowed. No place.
Not on my one. No place. On the Tomas' property.
Not on my one. No adultery going on there.
A little leaven, even with the ducks.
You know?
They're wild animals. it doesn't matter they
need to obey they don't stick together like herons or a great they don't mate for life
not like penguins i don't think ducks mate for life in my brain they do well
your brains weren't penguins for life right do Penguins mate for life, right?
Do penguins mate for life?
I think so.
Maybe certain ducks, but I'm pretty sure most ducks do not.
Okay.
Well, they should.
If they're going to make babies together, they need to stay committed.
I get it, but in a perfect world, that might be true.
But we can't even get that in the realm of human beings.
Yeah, no, it's unfortunately not true.
They do not mate for life.
They have seasonal mating partners,
and then they're looking for the next one the following year.
That's why he went after Tanya.
That's probably why he was looking at Tanya the way he was.
He was.
He was getting her number, her snap.
Oh, man.
He's doing a little bit more than getting the snap.
She's getting snapped. Oh, man. He's doing a little bit more than getting a snap. She's getting snapped.
Oh, my gosh.
Talia, close your ears.
That's not a pretty picture.
Seeing you scream and then seeing what was
going on in the picture. I'm like...
Man, and that happened like right before church
on Sunday. I was unwell. What was happening?
I was unwell. What do you mean what was
happening? Have you ever seen a duck? They were fighting. I was unwell. What was happening? Was that a hawk? What do you mean what was happening? Have you ever seen a duck?
They were fighting.
No, they're not fighting. Was the two males fighting?
Because sometimes males and females
look like they're fighting, but really
they're not fighting.
Like he's killing her.
It's violent.
Maybe that was happening, but I did not like it.
I don't like it either.
I've kicked rocks.
Yeah, I thought I was
witnessing a homicide.
Right. That's what I thought. It was like a hawk or something.
No, no, no.
I think it was... It was Tanya.
And they're mean.
And Daryl.
I feel bad for the girl duck.
Apparently. I didn't realize.
That did look like murder.
Poor thing.
It's not good.
I'm going to ask God about that when I go up to heaven.
Yeah.
Please do.
That must be part of the fall.
Maybe.
Why the violets?
Yeah.
It was probably not like that in the garden.
Nope.
I don't know.
What did you say?
No wasps.
There was no wasps.
Frickin' things.
They can actually go to hell.
Well, Tal,
I think wasps were present.
It doesn't make sense why they exist to me,
but it's fine.
Why wasps exist, you don't know why.
I feel the same way.
I feel the same way with cockroaches.
Cockroaches.
Cockroaches.
How do you say it?
Cockroach.
Cockroach.
Cockroaches.
Plural.
Cockroaches.
You say it in Spanish.
Cucarachas.
I don't like cucarachas.
That's why you call them cockroaches.
That's the reason why.
La cucaracha.
La cucaracha.
That's why. Is that what that is. La cucaracha. That's why.
Is that what that is?
Yes.
No way.
Did you not know
that's what that song was?
Wait a minute.
I had no idea.
What, La Cucaracha
is about a cockroach?
Yes.
No way.
La cucaracha.
No way.
I had no idea.
Wow.
What?
No, it's not.
Are you teasing us?
Porque le falta. Porque le falta. What's that? Una patita pa' caminar. Yes. No, it's not. Are you teasing us?
What's that?
Una patita pa caminar.
Yes.
What's that mean?
The cockroach is missing a leg.
Oh, no.
What? And it can't walk.
What?
That's what that song means?
That's the whole song.
Oh, my God.
Okay, I want to know.
People, did you know that?
No way.
Please respond in the chat.
In the chat right now.
Tell us.
Did you actually know La Cucaracha was about a one?
I did.
A roach missing its leg?
Oh my gosh.
That's so funny.
We need to know.
We need to know in the chat.
Let's see in the chat.
Quickly, tell us.
Did you know?
There's no way.
All the Spanish speakers are going to be like, duh.
I don't want to hear any of you speak in Spanish.
Yeah, exactly.
Forget you.
I'm talking about us whiteys that don't speak Spanish.
Anne-Marie said no.
She had no idea.
Thank you.
No idea.
Wow.
Who else is in the chat?
Courtney, who do you have?
I'll never sing that song again like that.
Okay, Linda said she knew
But she knows
She speaks Spanish right?
She speaks Spanish
I bet her mom taught her
She speaks Spanish
Sharon says yes
Sharon says no
Well
Sharon's Colombian
Mom said leg
She's Cambodian
Cambodian
That's right
Colombian
Who's Colombian?
I don't know
Oh I know
Claudia
Yeah
Bill's wife
Yes
Those sea countries
They screw me up
Costa Rica
Colombia
Cambodia
Yeah
It's all about a cockroach
That like loses its leg
Who would have ever known
Why would you write a song
About a cockroach That loses its leg. Who would have ever known? Why would you write a song about a cockroach
that loses its leg?
But what about We All Fall Down?
Isn't that about getting polio and dying?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jack and Jill went up the hill.
Bring Around the Rosie.
Bring Around the Rosie.
It's about what?
London Bridge is falling down.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, I think they say those nursery songs are not good.
Yeah.
No, they're not. Yeah, they're not. They nursery songs are not good. Yeah. No, they're not.
Yeah, they're not.
They're actually kind of harmful.
Yeah, exactly.
What was the Pocket Full of Posy?
Pocket Full of Posy?
It's a poisonous something.
It was about the plague.
Ashes, ashes is because they literally die.
It was literally about the black plague.
Yeah, the black plague, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we sing that to our newborn babies to make them feel to make them
fall asleep makes sense unbelievable so yeah you see you learn you learn something every day you
know what's so interesting is like nursery rhymes right we sing these like terrible songs but we
just sing them because that's what you do yeah but then all these old hymns like had like these
beautiful like backstories to them.
So of course the enemy would take what we sing to our kids and have like death and ashes.
The great counterfeit.
Right.
And then the hymns have these beautiful stories attached to them.
Very interesting.
And some of them aren't even accurate.
That's true.
True.
Some of those hymns, not so good to sing.
That's true. Yeah, for sure. A lot of people don't even accurate. That's true. True. Some of those hymns, not so good to sing. That's true.
Yeah, for sure.
A lot of people don't know that, but.
All right.
Okay.
Okay, so we're going to pray before we leave over the hurricane.
Okay.
Don't let me forget.
Okay, prayer.
Going to pray over that hurricane, and then you're going to do our thing really quick,
and then we're going to get going on the questions.
Let's do it.
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Hot diggity all right let's go with our first
question which i find super interesting it's so weird that this question came up because it's i
was just talking to somebody and i know it's not them that wrote this question because i think it
would been it would have been written different but it's so interesting this question came up
because about two weeks ago i was talking to somebody about this and they have a smaller child and
they were asking about a child rearing and things like that um but when i saw this question i was
like that's freaky wild sometimes when things i don't know like i say there are no coincidences
to a certain extent but obviously there are coincidences.
Right.
But I was like, well, that's pretty wild.
Cause I was just talking about this a couple of weeks ago.
Right.
This question is kind of, this question is kind of old,
but I think it came in right around the same time that I had been talking to
this family a few weeks ago.
But were you there for that conversation with that, with that family?
I don't think you were. I don't think I was. We were out there. Okay conversation with that with that family i don't think you were i
don't think i was it's out in the we were out there okay probably not yeah it was on a wednesday
i think you were in here working probably after the podcast but let's look at this question
i'm looking and i don't know who that wrote this but i'm looking for some advice on how to manage
my kids unruly behavior they've been increasingly defiant and it's becoming challenging to maintain a peaceful household i've tried various strategies like setting clear boundaries
and consequences but nothing seems to stick i want to create a positive environment while teaching
them the importance of respect and responsibility what are some effective techniques or approaches
that have worked for you or the peanut gallery right now i am willing to do anything so for me it sounds like you have older kids i don't know
like they don't sound like they're really small it does that it doesn't sound like they're small
to you guys correct it doesn't i know it's that one's hard because i know it's that like my kids
are unruly behavior i know it is sounds like it'd. Sounds like they'd be like five or up. Yeah,
probably not babies. Oh, definitely. Yeah, they're not like toddlers or something like that.
So for me, what I think a lot of times people when they're raising their kids, they look only
in the moment of now, right? And like when they're so little I've I've been very transparent about my parenting with
my first child it was atrocious and then when I was in the midst of training up Tommy and he was
so bad I just thought there would be this magical moment I think in my head I'm not quite sure but
somehow it would just click and he would just change. It's not reality. Parenting is huge. And I'm big
on forward thinking. And I tell a lot of the staff know this here. I don't make a lot of decisions
based in now. When I make the decision, I think about where I'm at right currently, right now.
But I also think of what will that look like in the future for us? And I think a lot of them do that as well when they're taking things on for the
church or whatever, and probably in their own personal lives they do as well. But I think a
lot of times as parents, we think, well, 18 is so far away. And we forget how quickly if you have a if like Tracy's now got 18 year olds right
and it seems like yesterday they were only 14 but now like life has dramatically changed right
and um I just remember in those moments I like I'll they'll be little forever. They're not little forever. I mean, it's a blink and they are grown. Vanessa, I've known Vanessa for 10 plus, little over 10 years
now. Her children were in my kids, my children's church. And Emma wasn't even in my children's
church when she first started coming. No, she was in the nursery.
Yeah. So like, I've seen them grow and it happened fast.
So when you're thinking, when you're like,
if your children are five plus and they're unruly
and they're defiant, you got a problem
and you got to fix it like quick
because it's going to get way, way worse.
When they're very, very little from zero to three
is when you really should be attacking the issue.
And if you don't,
then it's gonna take a little bit longer for you to fix
because bad habits have set in.
It's not that it's not fixable,
it's just gonna be tough.
That's why disciplining at a very early age
is vitally, vitally important.
They say from zero to three is the most pivotal time for your children.
Because if you look at people who have gotten foster children or have adopted children that
they didn't initially have from zero to three, there's a lot of things that they have to
overcome with those children. If they were not held when they were young, it's when that person is actually formed as
far as like, are they confident?
Do they feel loved?
That's one of the reasons why Tom quit coaching when Tommy was one is because he read a book
a very well, like I think it was James Dobson actually.
He read where the most important time for your child
to be the most secure in the human being
that they will become as an adult is zero to three.
So you better invest the largest amount of time
in your children from zero to three.
And I think it's very true, especially
look at the foster system. And you look at the adoption system. Most of those kids are
very damaged because of the parents that they were with from zero to three. And it's very hard.
I know many people have, I've known many people who have fostered and it is extremely difficult to be a foster parent
and some people do it because they want the money and the income and that's the truth they don't
want to work they want the money and the income that is provided for fostering but I will also
tell you there are a lot of people in there out there who actually did it because they wanted to make a difference in a child's life.
And a lot of the families that I know,
it nearly destroyed their family, fostering.
Yeah.
Yes.
I don't have very many positive stories about people who fostered
that they have positive stories about foster who fostered,
that they have positive stories about fostering.
Very, very, very difficult.
Very difficult.
So if you're going to foster, make sure you're called.
If you're going to adopt a foster child,
make sure you're called to do that.
Make sure that's what God really wants you to do because it destroys marriages. It destroys your children
that are being acclimated to these children. Like it's not, I've not heard a lot of positive,
but I do know there are people who do have no regrets, even though they went through very
difficult times. They don't, they have, I wouldn't say they have no regrets. They knew that that's what God
told them to do. So because of that, they did it. If you don't know you're called to do it,
don't do it. It's like homeschooling your kids. If you're not, if you're not, if God does not say,
I want you to homeschool, you don't homeschool your kids because I'm not the personality for homeschooling, but I knew I was supposed to do it. And if you know you're supposed to do it, you can do it.
Otherwise, you're going to be frustrated every single day. You're going to regret that decision
every single day and your relationship with your children will be destroyed. And that's just the
facts. You don't do it because everybody else is doing it. You, I think everybody should do it because the school system sucks.
But if you're not capable because you're so carnal that you can't do it, then don't do
it because put them in private school, a private Christian school, do whatever you got to do
to make that happen.
But not everybody's meant to do it.
Should everybody do it?
Yeah.
It's the best thing for their kids but not everybody's capable
of doing it trust me i know like again i tease about my kids still being alive after home
being homeschooling them to some degree that is true but mostly it's not but
when you're raising your children um defiance is huge It should not be allowed
Defiance should never be
There's like different
Different punishments for different things
Right?
Like
I don't know
There's small infractions that your child can do
Not every infraction deserves a spanking, okay?
But defiance, 100% does.
Because defiance is a matter of life and death sometimes.
It also creates a rebellious spirit.
And rebellion is the center of witchcraft, which I will get into.
But you need to understand that defiance and rebellion are both one and the same.
And those are heaven and hell issues. And you need to get that out of your child, and usually the only way
to do that is through spanking, because let's think about this. If your child is defiant,
and you allow that to be, you know, over a period of time from, let's say, like my kids started walking at 10 months old, right? But some kids don't walk
until they're a year, into a year and a half. When that child is two, and it can, it's mobile,
and it can walk around, and you tell it to not do something, and it still goes, and it walks,
and it does whatever it wants. What are you going to do when that child is four and five,
can run out in the road, and has learned not to listen to you. It just runs out into the road. And now that's a life and
death issue because defiance has been allowed. There's been no ramifications or repercussions
for their actions. That's why I'm always saying to you, forward think. What will this look like
later on down the road if i allow or enable this bad
behavior because it will it only perpetuates and gets larger ladies do you want to add anything
while i continue yeah no this is i think you should keep going because the scriptures you're
about to share they're good good good good defiance is huge. Defiance is huge. Like, what are small infractions that you don't like,
that you don't have to, like, spank?
Because not everything requires a spanking.
Yeah, I agree.
I think, well, for, like, me, it depends how,
like, if I said, if they were talking back to me,
and I was like, don't talk back to me.
Ask again, like, or whatever it is. And then if they
like did it again and again, like, then it's like, that's defiance. Right. That's defiance. And then,
so you're getting to the point where you're like, okay, this is like the third time. And so that's,
uh, uh, maybe the first time you're giving them that little bit of a, like correction. Um, and
you can see on their face if they're like, Oh, like, yeah yeah it was just a moment like where I was acting out um but I mean yeah I don't like what's like top of mind for me like I can't think of anything
because like even like oh for there are certain things like um when Tommy and Norma if he if if
Norma Norma was horrible at sharing she refused to share yeah okay surprise surprise
some things haven't changed but um she didn't like to share well at first you you try and teach that
sharing and eventually like shoot you know you hope like they will be like tommy you told tommy
you need to share yeah on the first time he'd be like, but I don't want to share.
And then you're like, no, you're going to share.
And then he would do it.
He would comply.
Okay.
If he didn't comply initially, I'm not going to spank him over that.
There's going to be like, I'm taking the toy and you're not getting it back for a while.
And then we're going to learn.
But if eventually, if after I've told you a number of times and you don't do it, guess what?
You don't get that toy and you're getting a spanking.
So because that's defiance.
But there are certain levels that you get to where it's an out and out.
Like, I'm not listening to you.
I'm doing what I want to do.
There are some children, though, you hardly ever have to spank.
Like Norma.
She hardly got spanked at all.
Very compliant.
Not a strong-willed child.
And then there's people like Tommy.
You're going to give them a beat down like me.
I'm going to get a beat down because I'm hard-headed.
I'm strong-willed.
I'm going to push the boundaries as far as I possibly can
to see how far I can actually go
before I don't get it the way I want it and
and it costs me because when I got to be 18 years of age guess what I did yeah I pushed the
boundaries right I kind of did what I wanted to do however I wanted to do it and suffer the
repercussions of it yeah it's not good but but I could have gone a lot worse if my parents hadn't been such strong,
strict disciplinarians, because I'm saved today because of the tangibility of
punishments that I received. I will say this, and I'm getting a little ahead of myself, but
when we, as parents, are the tangible God, we are the tangible Jesus, right? God disciplines us. He punishes those he
loves, it says. Okay, if you don't discipline your child and you don't punish your child as a tangible
parent, what do you think is going to happen when you no longer are around and they're an adult?
You think they're going to listen to God who's intangible, that they can't like physically are not going to receive a punishment, they will get
the punishment either in this present earth or in hell when they don't go to heaven because
they chose to be defiant and not listen. Our job is to be strong disciplinarians so that when they
grow older and they're adults, they listen to the
Lord. And when he says, do this, they do it. When he says, don't do it, they don't do it.
Because how you discipline here while they're young will be how they receive discipline from
the Lord. That's why we see in the ARC churches, a lot of people, especially like the millennials,
kind of like Talia's age group, they don't want to go to a church that
teaches like we do because in life they've never been disciplined growing up their parents kind of
gave them carte blanche like well i'm gonna lay out the uh your attire for for today you get three
choices which one do you want or they let them go in the closet and they get to pick out whatever they want and if you as a parent said i don't like that i don't want you to wear it
they pitched a fit and you're like all right right you know the problem is is there's no disciplinary
actions with parents today so now these kids want to go to churches where god is love. It is grace. There's no, there's no,
there's no like boundaries.
If they want to do,
consequence is a great word.
Thank you.
They can do whatever they want
and God is fit in a box for them.
And if that doesn't work,
then they'll be like,
okay, well, we're going to go over here
and we're going to do this,
but grace will cover it for me. It doesn't work like that they'll be like, okay, well, we're going to go over here and we're going to do this, but grace will cover it for me.
It doesn't work like that. And there's a lot of people who will not make it to heaven because the scripture says that we will go after preachers that will tickle our ears.
We will go after teachers who will tickle our ears.
If there were people who didn't want their ears tickled, the pastor wouldn't exist. He would
have no congregation. But when we've been brought up to get what we want, and if we don't like it,
then we pitch a fit, then we're going to go to a place that doesn't have any, like just preaches
whatever fits the bill we want it to fit. And you can do whatever you want, say whatever you want,
be whoever you want, and there's no rules.
That's not Christianity, though.
And if you raise your kid like that, they will not be saved.
They may go to church, but they'll go to a church
that has no boundaries, no rules, and God is permissible
or permissive on everything.
That is dangerous, dangerous teachings.
Before I get to the scriptures, anybody want to add anything to that?
Because everybody, Taya, is a parent.
I mean, you're nailing it.
Yeah, it is.
Everything you have said, I agree with.
But you also didn't know the question, so that does not help you to be ready.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah, Cause you probably
have a lot more to say. But even like with defiance, like, like you said, if you start early
and you, and you do not give up when it gets hard, cause it's going to get hard as a parent
and you're, they're so cute. Pastor Tom says it all the time, but they're so cute.
But the thing is, is they are going to get bigger and you are, you're just creating a pattern for
them. And they know that if they say it three more times, you're going to get bigger and you are, you're just creating a pattern for them. And
they know that if they say it three more times, you're going to say yes, because you're too busy
in your mind. A lot of parent, both parents are working. Uh, most parents are divorced. And so
then all of a sudden you feel bad because these poor kids are going through this. And then you
just make lots of excuses for them. You do. You do something right. And, and I, and I've been there,
like I've been in a place where like you only have your kids for like two hours at night cause they're in school and then they
have to go and then you're working and then you only get to eat and put them to bed. And it's,
it's rough, it's challenging, but those season, that season will pass. And if you teach your kids
that it's okay and you're to be disobedient and to just like, whatever you want to do, I'll do
whatever, like everything's just like, ah, whatever is convenient. You'll just set a pattern and they will continue to do it later
in life. And so it's just important. It's important to start as soon as it is, no matter what season
you're in a divorce. Um, that's the problem. A lot of these people feel guilty because of divorce
and you should not feel guilty because you have a higher risk, but more responsive. You have a
higher responsibility to that child than your guilt.
And a lot of people,
one will be the Disneyland parent.
And so one will do all the fun stuff.
And then you feel like you're always the one that's disciplining.
But as long as there is love as well,
you discipline all the time,
discipline,
discipline,
but love them.
Discipline,
love them.
Yes.
Yeah,
it does.
And they know if it's coming from a place where you just love them discipline yes yeah it does and they know if it's coming
from a place where you just love them and you don't want to see them go down that route of like
you know treating others that way they they'll know they know that you love them and at the end
of the day like kids thrive with structure yes yes they really do and they're happier with
structure right we are right as adults absolutely absolutely right
and so if you can provide that in your home like you're gonna have less occurrences you're gonna
have less defiance you're gonna have less of those things because i look back and you know
my my children were little and we didn't have a lot of defiance we didn't have a lot of um
back back talk i mean we had some of course and we dealt with it and we nipped it in the butt
quickly. But we also had structure. We had routines. We did things up front so that
they weren't acting out because they're bored or they're you know whatever. But I think we forget that children thrive with structure.
Yep. I can always tell when I did children's ministry, I could always tell the children that
had strong discipline action in the home versus the one that had moderate to none. Because when
you would tell that child, like if they started acting out and i'll say
jojo was one of them like he was a strong-willed young man which is his name is joseph it's i call
him jojo because because i call him jojo yeah because it's vanessa's son that's all i know
but um when i he when i would get on him like his countenance would totally change.
He would go from being like defiant to totally submissive and correctable.
And very, not like he was like submissive, But more like, okay, I'm convicted
because I'm doing wrong.
I know I'm doing wrong
and I know
that this is not allowed.
Right.
And there was a healthy fear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's as there should be.
Right.
But then there's the kids
that you tell them something
and they totally disregard you.
They give you the look.
They give you a stare down.
Yep.
They are like monsters. Mm- monsters. And there's more of
those kids in children's ministry than there are the JoJo's. And you just sit there and go, man,
you're being set up to fail. Like what are your parents thinking? Because they're actually a
lovely kid. It's just they're being set up to fail by not being disciplined. Right.
And thinking that they get whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want. That's not the real world.
And when you go and get a job, that's why a lot of employers are having difficult times hiring people because parents have let their children do whatever they want.
And then when these kids go to work, guess what they think?
Yeah.
How it is in the home is how it'll be on the job.
Right.
True. And it isn't like that but then when kovid comes and there's nobody who wants to work so bosses have people have to hire whatever's willing to work and you're kind of stuck putting
up with crapola employees been there uh-huh and how they expect how they were brought up in the
home is how you'll treat them and you got nobody who'll want to work so you got to kind of put up Been there. Uh-huh. And how they expect how they were brought up in the home
is how you'll treat them.
And you got nobody who'll want to work,
so you got to kind of put up with it
until everybody's hungry again.
True.
And then people get, you know what floors me?
Is you go to a restaurant or you go somewhere
and people are like moaning, groaning, and complaining
that nobody wants to work
and like they're moving so slow or what's taking so long
and I literally want to say I bet your bottom dollar you raised one of these kids and now
you're complaining I know I'm like the same thing I think to myself I know the odds are the odds are
right that's your kid right there right right you You just don't know it. True. So frustrating.
You know, with the youth kids too, I notice,
like you were just saying, like they're good kids.
Like you can tell they're good kids.
And we'll have kids that come in and during worship,
they're new.
And so they just don't know how we take it very seriously.
And so I have to always pray and ask God,
like, how do I speak to each of them?
And most of the time I just go up to them
and I just tell them,
I ask them if they're in a place
that life is so good right now
and they don't have anything that they wanna change.
And every single one of them says no to me.
I said like, your family's good, life's good,
you have a great job, school's going well.
And every single one of them says no.
And I said, okay, that goes for a lot of people
in this room right now that are worshiping God.
They are putting themselves out there
and trusting that God is going to show up for them because they have a need right now.
And I'm like, and I need you to respect that or I need you to go. And all of them will. They'll
all respect, but they live their life however they want right now because they have no parents
saying anything. They're barely hanging on and they need that structure, which is exactly what
Vanessa said. It's so sad. And
they want it. They always are respectful to me. I've never had an issue. I've had to pull a couple
of them out and talk to them face to face every, and you like, I mean, if you see them, you're
like, oh, that's going to be a tough kid, but you put their, their kids. And so you pull them out
and, and they, they respect that. They respect somebody that makes sense and is logical and
isn't emotional. And, and they need that so bad
and it may it breaks my heart for them because i'm like where are your parents other parents are
out doing their thing right and i'm like they're gonna be in the world soon they are they 100%
it takes me off don't have kids i know i know don't get married don't have kids i know if you're gonna be selfish i know i just don't
spare everybody yeah exactly spare your spouse i know spare the potential child
you cannot handle it the adult activity don't pretend to be an adult it's very frustrating
but it's very sad yeah it is and like and most of the time they don't come back.
You know, like those are the ones that don't come back.
And it's sad.
And it's like.
But you can't have them ruin your group either. No, absolutely.
No.
It's like weighing.
And I never do it in a way where I'm like, I embarrass them.
No, that's a great way.
You know what I mean?
And so like, it just makes me sad they don't come back.
Because I'm like, I know they weren't embarrassed.
I know I didn't say anything that went too far where they're like,
this lady's mean and I don't even want to.
And it's just that it wasn't in them to come back.
And so it's just sad.
Cause I'm like,
I know they're going,
they're not going anywhere.
There's something good for them.
Cause they just told me,
you know,
so yeah,
but that's come back to,
that's true.
They do a hundred percent.
But I would say that about this church,
even though we've seen it,
people come and go in and out of this church.
And from varied reasons.
But a lot of times it's because they just want to live however they want to live.
And if somebody tells them, you know, you can't live like that.
They're like, yeah, I can.
I'll go to a church that tells me I can.
Right.
I know.
And then they stop going to church.
Eventually they always stop going to church almost always or they get to a point where you know they're ready to commit and they know
where to go back to right yeah right i know yep and that's very rare yeah true it's very rare pride
keeps people a lot of times from doing what's right so true 1 Samuel 15, 23, and this is the amplified classic,
says for rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
he has also rejected you from being king.
So let me just tell you this.
This was what was said to Saul.
But I will tell you,
you allow your child to be rebellious.
That is as the sin of witchcraft. And I will say you, you allow your child to be rebellious. That is as the sin of witchcraft.
And I will say this to you, look at yourself.
Are you stubborn?
Are you willful?
Like if your spouse tells you something,
and I don't care if it's your husband telling the wife
or the wife telling the husband, how do you respond?
Are you rebellious in your response?
Are you stubborn and willful? And the thing is,
is sometimes a person is telling you the God's honest truth, but because you're not correctable,
like one thing that I absolutely love about Tracy is you're super correctable always.
You're very teachable. Now I am now, but I will be honest with you. I've not been like that.
I was very stubborn. I was very willful and it has held me back because I was like that.
Now, obviously I'm not like that anymore, but I think to myself, how much further would I be
if I hadn't been like that? And, but as an adult, look at yourself.
Maybe you grew up in a home,
like, and I wasn't allowed to be like that.
But I also had a father who was very stubborn,
very willful, and you can tell him anything, right?
So as a parent, are you one that apologizes?
That's huge.
You have to be willing to do that with your children.
That did not happen in
my household and um as a parent there are good teachings and bad teachings that you can do
absolutely and so as a parent are you rebellious are you stubborn you got to get rid of that
because you'll teach your kid to be like that. Correct. It's not healthy.
It's not good.
And it's a matter of life and death.
Rebellion leads to hardening your heart.
Hebrews 3.15 at the Amplified Cossacks says,
Then while it is still the call today, if you would hear his voice,
and when you hear it, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion in the desert
when the people provoked and irritated and embittered
God against them. You literally cannot harden your heart. And when you're rebellious and you're
defiant, your heart is getting more hard. And the more hardened heart you have, the less resistance
you are, or the more resistant you are to the Lord. As you get older and you're
going to have to make decisions for yourself, if you allow your child's heart to become hardened
to disciplinary action, then when they get older, their heart will be hardened to the Lord,
and they will not listen to him, and they will not receive correction from him. It's super
important. People who are in rebellion will explain something away and reject the truth. Is that not true? Yeah. Oh my gosh. I mean,
oh my gosh. People do not take responsibility for their actions. No, literally. That is the
most frustrating thing too, because it's like you hate the situation, but you won't like acknowledge
what needs to be changed. And you're always pointing at somebody else. Always. And never your fault. Never your fault. And so if you start
seeing the same patterns in your kids that drive you crazy, like why are they doing that? And look
back at yourself, like check this place. Cause I, I not, I haven't always been like great at
taking correction. I've been teachable because, and coachable because I
played basketball and I wanted to be on the starting team all the time. And so you have to
be, you have to be teachable and coachable. Um, and most of the time I wanted to cry and I probably
did cry all the time. Um, but I realized like when I wasn't, I didn't get what I wanted. And so I was
like, which like you weigh your odds. And so I just learned that when you are, you go further
in life because of it. So as a parent, it's the same thing. If you don't like, you weigh your odds. And so I just learned that when you are, you go further in life because of it.
So as a parent, it's the same thing.
If you don't like what you see, check your fruit.
If you don't like it, okay, start making changes here and then see what happens.
Because all of a sudden your kids are like, oh, why?
They're trustworthy.
And they used to get mad in this moment.
Now they're not getting mad anymore.
They notice.
And hypocrisy, like Pastor Tom said,
will send your kids to hell because they won't want what you want. And Hope just said that we
are representing Jesus. And so our life should reflect that. And our kids should look at us
like, okay, I trust God because my mom loves God and it'll just make sense. And so, yeah,
that's a hot point right there. It is. And I've said this,
I've told this and it's embarrassing to say, but in my early twenties, I think it was like 21, 22.
I remember a boss saying to me, do you realize that you have an excuse for everything? Nothing
is ever your fault. I was like, uh, what do you say to that? What do you say? Because I literally was shocked.
You find an excuse.
I'm joking.
Yeah, exactly.
I was shocked it was being said to me.
Yeah.
I mean, my pride was hurt bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then after I walked out of his office, I started, you know, you start going, that's
not true at all.
And then I had to literally sit there and go, uh, I'm embarrassed to say that is absolutely
100% true.
Because I never own up to anything.
But that is being defiant, willful, stubborn,
and like not being receptive to correction.
Right, yeah, absolutely.
That not, and so prideful.
When you're not willing to take correction, you are a very prideful person.
Very prideful.
When everything is not your fault, it's always somebody else's fault, you are a very prideful person.
Yep.
And the best thing you can do is you will teach that to your kids if you don't get rid of it. Right.
Right.
And then they'll be teenagers and they'll be prideful and they won't.
They'll think it's normal.
Right.
And they won't even understand because they're like, well, you are like you do this all the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to model the behavior you want to see.
Right.
Yeah.
One hundred percent.
Yeah.
It's to take it from me.
You don't want somebody telling
you that it's embarrassing as all get out yeah i i fell about that big yeah but good for you because
most people in that moment well it will do exactly what vanessa said and make an excuse and be like
they don't understand because nobody gets me nobody understands me nobody knows nobody knows
my situation nobody knows my kid like all things. And it's just gross.
Like then die on that hill.
You know, die on the hill that it's always everybody's fault.
But nothing changes.
Right.
Check your fruit.
Like when nothing's changing.
Or if everybody, like you make this facade and you think everything's beautiful, like
on Facebook and all these things are great.
Yeah.
And you can't go to sleep at night because your life is miserable.
Like you're not tricking anybody.
Maybe the first few new people that see your Facebook page,
but don't you want to live in peace?
Well, the thing is you can be a very successful person
having all these traits.
You really can.
Yes, you can.
But you won't have friends.
True.
That's the facts.
You won't have true friends.
Right.
And if you have friends, they won't be long. You won't keep
them long. It'll be the same type of people that are also prideful and they justify your actions.
Like people, we like even at Abide, like we have to have hard conversations in our group. And if
you bring something out to the group, then there's going to be correction during the group time. And
that's hard. That's hard to receive that but the ones that do i'm watching them like
be almost divorced a year ago and now they're like doing thriving thriving right but because
they receive correction and they're not prideful and they're applying it too because you can
receive it but not apply true that's the problem i hear a lot of people who are willing to listen
to the correction right they were not willing to do anything with it after that. True. They'll sit there and go, uh-huh, that's true. Uh-huh. And that's right. And not do anything
about it. But what's the point? The word is very clear. You're not to be just a hearer of the word,
but you're to be a doer of the word. So what's the, I told, I've told Tom this, it drives me
crazy when people know what they're supposed to do are honest enough about themselves and yet
not do it I know I'd rather you not know that you need to do it and you not do it they know that you
need to do it and still not do it right true I hate that I mean at first you're like when somebody's
like I they they admit all these things about themselves and you're like man that's so refreshing but six months a year later they're
still confessing the same thing right and they've not they've not budged they've not changed they've
not grown a lick and you're like i don't want to hear it anymore either do it don't do it but i'm
not listening anymore because you're just a person that loves to admit your faults but not do anything about
them right i'll talk to the person who's ignorant about their fault all day long yeah that drives me
nuts yeah same second timothy four three through four says an amplified classic says for the time
is coming when people will not tolerate or endorse sound and wholesome instruction but have it ears
itching for something pleasing and gratifying.
They will gather to themselves one teacher after another to a considerable number chosen to satisfy
their own liking and to foster the errors they hold. Bad parenting, this is what happens with
bad. That's what you're going to raise right there. And we'll turn aside from hearing the
truth and wander off into myths and man-made fictions. You want to raise an undisciplined
child? That's what you're going to get.
They're going to end up at an associated related churches
where everything goes, everything's fine.
You're going to heaven.
It's a journey.
Yeah, don't worry about anything.
Because God meets you where you are.
See where that takes you.
See how far that takes you.
I made a list and then we'll we're gonna um do our do our stuff and pray um i made a list of things that
are defiant and rebellious and if your kid does any of these things get on it fix it and I don't care how old they are sometimes kids are too old to spank but they
got phones they got cars yep they want to go places and you rip every single thing single
thing out from underneath them whatever it takes to make them go to heaven you do because it's life
and death it's heaven and hell. It's truly that important.
Like, there are so many things as parents of teenagers,
kids sneaking out and things like that. What are you thinking?
Like, looking the other way on that kind of nonsense.
Here's my list.
That's nice.
Somebody just called me and clicked me out of my list.
Okay.
When you tell your child to come if they don't come.
And I know that sounds small, but it's not that small because it grows into bigger things.
Because again, be a forward thinker.
Because if they don't come when you tell them when they're two and three to come and they kind of look at you and then continue to run the opposite direction and everybody's like, that's so cute.
It ain't cute.
It's going to be ugly later on. It ain't cute. It's going to be ugly later on.
It's not cute.
And you're teaching them that it's okay to be defiant,
but also to disrespect you and to laugh it off.
It's not funny.
And you think God laughs at that stuff?
He does not.
He does not laugh at that stuff.
If Jesus was standing in the hallway and you told your child to come and that
child ran the other direction, would you laugh it off? You probably wouldn't. You'd be embarrassed
that the king of kings watched your child just defy you. He doesn't allow us to defy him.
Why are you going to allow your child to defy you. Super important. When they talk back to you. I've seen so many kids
talk back to their parents. I've seen kids say they hate their parents. Get away from me. Shut up.
Me. I will promise you, if my kids said any of those things to me, they'd be lucky to be alive.
I'm not kidding you.
I would have slapped them into next year.
And I'm not kidding you.
You think I'm kidding.
I'm not.
They would have gotten the whooping of a lifetime.
There's no, my kids have never said they hated me.
They have never told me to shut up.
They have never told me anything nasty.
You have to raise your children where they respect and honor you.
The word says long life will he give you when you honor your parents.
You have to teach them to honor you.
You want them to live a long life, right?
It's super important.
Disrespectfulness to you shortens the length of time that they live on this earth.
People do not think about these things.
But it's super important.
Never allow your child to say anything that's disrespectful or dishonoring to you.
And if they do, you pop them.
Like Tom used to get a bip in the mouth.
You bip them.
I'm not kidding.
You spank their, it should not be allowed.
Do not, when your kid does not follow the rules of the home,
don't allow it.
Test you and your limits.
Demand to do things their own way.
Even as small children, parents allow their children to demand that things are done.
If I've seen parents want to help their kids put a jacket on
and the kid's like, I'll do it.
I would have been like, you know what?
You're going to end up spanking because you're not ripping away from me.
Second of all, get your butt over here because I'm going to put this jacket on for you now.
You don't get to do anything on your own.
You don't allow your children to behave in that way.
It's not correct. But how many times, ladies, how many
times have you seen children like totally like own their parents? Not too often. Yeah.
It's heaven and hell. They think that this is just like a moment. This is just for today.
Today has a tomorrow and then tomorrow has another tomorrow and they are grown before you know it it's not good throwing tantrums throwing tantrums is not only not also not only rebellious
and defiant but it's also called a fit of rage and fits of rage is one of the lists of things
that it says if you do these things you'll not inherit the kingdom of heaven fits of rage is one
of them and when we allow our children to throw tantrums,
I've literally seen parents go,
we're just going to let him get it out of them.
And the kid's on the floor kicking and screaming and pitching a fit.
And I'm thinking, you've lost your ever-loving mind.
What are you going to do when that kid is like 15?
Right, exactly.
He's not going to kick and scream on the floor anymore.
He's going to punch you right in the face.
Or he's going to walk out the door when you tell him you're not leaving,
and he's going to look at you, laugh in your face,
and walk right out the door and say, uh-uh.
Tom had parents literally call him when he was a school resource officer.
Can you come and get my kid out of bed?
He won't go to school today.
Parents calling him to get their kid out of bed because
they wouldn't go to school yep you know what would have happened if that was tommy or norma
they would have been going to school in their pajamas because they would have been getting up
out of bed and it would have been ugly for them and mommy would have marched their keister right
into the school and they would have gone in their pjs like what are you thinking no that's where
we're at though people yeah and there are christians do you thinking? That's where we're at, though, people.
And there are Christians.
You think that that's in the secular world.
No, no.
That's happening in Christian homes.
It's not good.
Little girl, a girl's going off and doing inappropriate things with boys,
sending inappropriate pictures to boys.
Christians.
This is not good.
Boys, they're Christians, asking girls to send inappropriate pictures to boys, Christians. This is not good. Boys, they're Christians asking girls to send inappropriate pictures to them. It's not good, guys. That's all because there's no fear of dad
and mom in the home. Because listen, when there is, kids ain't asking to do that crap. They're
afraid that if I get found out, what will happen to me?
It's just, it blows my mind.
When having a family event, and how many times have we seen this?
When you have a family event and your kid doesn't want to come and you force them to come and they are nasty and disinterested the whole entire time.
Yep.
And you think that that's okay because they came.
It's not okay.
That they need to be a family member.
They don't get to act.
You're allowing them to behave in their carnal nature.
We're to die to our flesh.
And you can't allow them to act like that.
It's like when you tell your kid to smile for a picture,
and they're like, I'm not smiling.
You make them smile because you told them to smile.
It's like when we get to this family function,
you're going to be nice
and you're going to treat everybody nice and kindly.
You're not going to act like you don't want to be here
because that's not how we behave.
You put on a, what is it called?
You put on the something of praise.
What is it?
When you're... My computer is... The habit of praise. What is it? When you're...
My computer is... The habit of praise. I think that's what it's called. You put on the habit of praise. What do
you do when you don't want to praise? You praise anyway. And that's what you're teaching your kid.
It doesn't matter how you feel. You're not going to act like that. But a lot of times we see it
otherwise. Children whining and complaining. If it's a small child refusing to share,
parents count to three.
Please, God, don't ever do that in front of me.
I might take your own gun out of your holster
and kill myself.
Counting to three.
What all you're doing is teaching your kids
that they have till three to misbehave
and to do whatever they want to do
and be defiant until you reach three. don't do it the first time the second time it's done deal consistency is the key
with anything be consistent parents give a punishment and they don't stick to the punishment
they they don't follow through that's the biggest one it It's huge. Huge. Every time.
Every time.
Big one is you don't spank.
There's other ways to discipline.
Bull crap.
That's not what the Bible says.
That's not what the Bible says.
Yeah.
The Bible says in Proverbs 13, 24,
he who spares the rod of discipline hates his son,
but he who loves him disciplines diligently,
diligently,
diligently, doesn't count to three, diligently, and punishes him. What is that? Early. Okay, that means at a very early age or when the situation arises very quickly, you take care
of business. I'm not saying you spank your kid at six months, but I was tapping my kid's hands at 10
because they knew what they were doing.
And as soon as they knew, like you can tell
when you tell your kid no and they look at you,
then they still do it.
And they're watching the whole time and testing you.
They know, then you tap their hand.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying you like, you don't do that.
Just enough that they know that's not going to be acceptable.
And then it progresses to patting them on the diaper.
Enough for them to know this is not acceptable.
You don't do it early, you're going to live a miserable life.
And your child will too.
And who knows if they'll make it to heaven.
Let's see.
Proverbs 23, 13 through 14 says,
withhold not discipline from the child
for if you strike and punish him with the reed-like rod,
he will not die.
You shall whip him with the rod
and deliver his life from Sheol, Hades,
the place of the dead.
So if you don't want to spank your kid, that's fine.
But just know this says
that the chances of them going to hell is there.
Not me, my kids.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Hebrews 12, 11, the New Living Translation says,
No discipline is enjoyable while it is happening.
It's painful.
But afterward, there will be a peaceful harvest of right living
for those who are trained in this way.
And I absolutely love that scripture.
And you need to put that somewhere.
If you have a hard time disciplining your children, hang Hebrews 12, 11 up.
New King James Version says,
Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful.
Nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.
Train your child up in that.
It delivers a harvest is what it says.
Proverbs 19, 18 says,
Chasing your son while there is hope and do not set your heart on his destruction.
You don't train him up.
You don't chase in him.
You're giving his heart over to destruction.
The hardest thing to do is to be consistent.
And the hardest thing to do is discipline your kid because they're so stinking cute. And you love them so much.
But that's why that scripture in Hebrew says, it's painful. It is painful. I've cried. Me,
I've cried over spanking my kid. I remember Tom pulling over and spanking our kids Christmas Eve night because they were just rotten.
Rotten.
And they were in their little car seats
and he whipped them both out
and they both got a spanking
and they're crying in the back
and he's crying in the front.
Driving down the road.
They didn't know he was crying,
but he was crying.
It's not fun,
but it's necessary.
If you want to have your children go to heaven,
then you'll do it.
Because today is only now.
The future is what you need to be thinking about.
Don't worry about now.
Be thinking about the future
because that's truly what's the most important.
Where they spend heaven.
I mean, where they go.
Heaven or hell.
That's really the most important thing. Girls, you want to add anything?
That was good. I think the only thing I have is just Ephesians 6, 2 is honor your mother and
father, which is the first commandment with a promise. And then for fathers, it's do not provoke
your children to anger by the way you treat them, rather bring them up in the discipline and
instruction that comes from the Lord. And so I it's there's a two-part there like like we have our
responsibility as children or not me anymore but they have their responsibility as children yeah
and then we have a responsibility to make sure that we're not provoking our children to anger
because they're gonna react and then we get mad at them for reacting and it was we were the
enablers so it's it's a two-part thing
yeah 100 and i've seen i've seen it where parents were such bad parents they did provoke their
children me too they they never relented off of their children correct okay you can't do that
either no there's a balance there's a healthy balance to everything. And so you do that to your child, you're setting them up for a great fall too.
I'm almost out of that one.
I'm so glad you did that, Tracy.
Super important.
Absolutely.
It is.
It's so easy to just blame our kids for responding a certain way.
Because like you were saying, some of them are strong-willed,
and it's going to be good for them in the future.
They're not going to take no for an answer.
They are going to be successful.
But if you try to destroy that in them, that's not good either.
But you also want to make sure that they can honor people that are in authority, because usually they struggle with that.
They think that they know best. If you love your child, if you love them without conditions and you don't hold records of wrong
and you do all the things that 1 Corinthians 13 says, you'll do well.
So just don't go the other way.
I'm not going to discipline.
But if you love your kids, just love them.
You want to break their will, but you don't want to destroy their spirit.
Correct.
And there's a difference.
There is a huge difference. Break their will. Yeah. That's what they do in the will. Right. But you don't want to destroy their spirit. Correct. And there's a difference. There is a huge difference.
Break their will.
Yeah.
That's what they do in the military.
Right.
So that everybody's conformed and they're a team.
Right.
They break the will of each individual so that they conform as a unit.
Yeah.
But they still have leaders in there.
Yep.
They don't destroy their spirit because oftentimes they believe as a unit that they'll go in and they'll win whatever they're going after.
They're all well trained.
We need to be the same thing.
You break the will of that strong-willed child.
You do not destroy their spirit because their spirit is what will propel them to be successful, spiritually speaking, as well as in the world.
It brings that opportunity, too, for the enemy to come in.
And when you feel hopeless and you feel like there's no way out, you're always in trouble
as a child.
You're always in trouble.
No matter what you do, it's never good enough.
The enemy will come in and start being like, you know, it's better if you're not here.
Nobody would care if you're gone.
And a lot of kids are listening to that voice inside
their head. I, we, we lead youth. I know that a majority of those kids struggle with intrusive
thoughts. And so your job as a parent is to make sure that you're not the reason that they're not
here tomorrow. So exactly what you just said, break that strong will. Do not break their spirit. Which doesn't mean
enabling and complying. Absolutely. Right. Enabling and complying only supports bad decisions
and bad thoughts. Correct. A hundred percent. But boundaries makes them feel safe, secure,
and loved. It's just the way it is.
As we do.
That's why the word of God,
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And we rest in what the guidelines are
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Let's pray.
Let's get that.
What's that girl's name?
Sarah.
Let's get Sarah.
Not our Sarah.
Not our Sarah.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's kick Sarah to the curb, but not our Sarah.
Yeah.
Sarah without an H.
There's no H.
Oh, there's not? Sarah without an, but not our Sarah. Yeah. Sarah without an H. There's no H. Oh, there's not?
Sarah without an H.
Sarah the hurricane.
Yeah.
We're kicking you to the curb, girl.
Yeah.
Getting out of here.
See ya.
See ya.
Let's pray right now.
Heavenly Father, we just come to you right now.
Whatever the enemy is trying to plan, we thwart that in the name of Jesus.
Allow that cold front to come on through
and squash that beast into the abyss of the gulf. We thank you. We praise you. And that thing will
not come about to be anything. It will harm no one. It'll destroy nothing. And it will just go
away. I'm not kidding you. Go away and dissipate just like you did with Milton
in Jesus mighty name
we pray
amen
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