The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S03-E04 | 01-17-2025
Episode Date: January 17, 2025The Hope Hotline | S03-E04 | 01-17-2025...
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Yes, yes, I am the Hope Hotline.
I'm dressed and ready.
Yes, you are.
Merch everywhere.
You know why I'm like this, girls?
How come?
Why?
Because one of my, I should have sent you the picture.
Oh, maybe I can.
I should have sent you the picture.
Oh, my ear thingy.
Hold on.
Okay, you're holding.
Oh, the pain that I go through for you people i know all tens
of you all tens of you oh my gosh oh my gosh i mean you are like legit marched out i probably
should start with like the merch okay okay oh no actually i'm gonna change uh-oh it's a little
wild today a little bit yeah but my earpiece just fell out again. I don't know if I
can wear this thing today. Like it's literally all in my, all up in my biz. Okay. Do you want
me to go through all my things first and then you can fix? Are you good? What do you think?
I think I'm good. Okay. But my friend sent me a picture of herself today.
I'm not going to even bother with it.
Okay.
We don't have enough time.
Okay.
My friend sent me a picture of herself today, and she's in her closet.
Yeah.
And in her closet, she has her Hope Hotline mug with her coffee in it.
Aww.
With her Hope Hotline shirt on.
She goes, I made a good decision today.
Yes, she did.
Yes, she did, girl.
That's so cute.
So, you know what it made me want to do?
Get my Hope Hotline stuff on.
Get all your stuff, right.
Exactly.
Except I'm not drinking coffee right now.
That's okay.
Because I put on too many calories with coffee.
Oh, my gosh.
All that creamer.
I cannot eat.
I cannot drink coffee without an enormous amount of creamer.
Yeah.
Who,
who drinks it black?
Kristen Benz does.
Ugh.
But you know what she does?
What?
Blech.
She swears by this though.
If you are a keto person,
if you're like a carb,
no carbs,
or little carb,
like the carnivore kind of thing
going on, you stick
butter in your coffee. Have you ever heard of that?
I have. Oh no, Vanessa has done it.
I tried it. Okay, Vanessa, tell us.
She swears by it. She says it's phenomenal.
Well, if you think about it,
butter is just cream.
Butter is just cream. It's not the same.
And by the way, I know where
your microphone is. Oh, I just asked Erin. I haven't heard back yet. Oh, I know where i know where your microphone is oh i just
asked aaron i haven't heard back yet oh i know where it is oh it's in aaron's office oh you know
why because aaron's getting ready to train you guys okay i guess that's fair so we're gonna
the tlp comes before the whole pot line so rude so rude but yeah okay whip it it like
becomes frothy and like what do you mean if you whip your coffee are you with
butter oh I just thought you dropped a dab of butter in there I just dropped a
thing of butter in there and it was oily and disgusting.
And I was like,
and it like tastes,
the roof of your mouth is like oil.
So gross.
Hey, I did the same thing.
That's how I know.
Yeah.
It's gross.
Nasty.
So gross.
So yeah,
so she's drinking her coffee.
She's in her Hope Hotline gear.
Made me want to be my Hope Hotline gear.
Oh, so cute.
Made me want a cup of coffee, but not doing it.
Okay.
I'm on a mission.
I gained seven pounds over from October to December.
Okay, thank you, Tal.
That's a lot.
Thank you, Tal.
Good job.
Thank you, Tal.
But now, but now.
Dropped four.
There we go.
I've dropped four.
Yeah, that's not a lot.
But no, but she just started dropping.
When did you just start dropping?
Right after Christmas.
Right.
And it's only the, yeah, it's only the 17th day.
Well, I've been fasting a lot.
That does help.
That does help.
For sure.
Fasting does help.
Yeah.
But.
Unless at six o'clock at night you eat like you've never eaten in your entire life.
And then fasting doesn't help.
Right.
Because then you go to bed. Yeah, but I fast two days a week. No, you. Yes. you eat like you've never eaten in your entire life and then fasting doesn't help because then
you go to bed yeah but i fast two days a week no you yes absolutely people yeah i'm saying fasting
doesn't help when you fast all day and then at six o'clock at night you gorge oh yeah yeah you
can't do that no if you're not doing that right yeah i'm not uh i'm not doing the six to six. Right. So. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Because I can tell you, not last year, the year before when I did the six to six, I look
like a raccoon in a trash can at night.
Like.
559, you're like.
559.
I was like perched on the edge of the pantry.
Yeah.
I need a snack. Literally like a raccoon's perched on the edge of the pantry. I need a snack.
Literally like a raccoon's perched on the edge of the trash can.
I was ready to.
I think that that's harder than an all day fast in some ways.
Mentally speaking, not stomach wise.
Because stomach wise, you're like, oh, thank God.
Mentally speaking though.
Yeah, because all day you're like, okay, only three more hours.
Only two more hours.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fasting, listen, you're going to learn real quick with fasting how carnal you really are.
True.
And the more you fast, the less carnal you become.
You realize, okay, so I don't get to eat.
All right, I'm not going to die.
Yeah.
That's how you, that's over time.
That's really how it begins.
You begin to think.
But before that, you're like, I don't think I can make it another hour.
Right.
So true.
It really is.
And then that leaks into other areas of your life where you're very carnal.
Like if you can control it with eating, which is so strong, you can do it in other areas where
maybe you get angry or maybe you get jealous or maybe like whatever you're reacting.
Or your mouth runs way too much.
Or that.
And that's where I find that fasting for me has really helped.
Okay.
Because it makes me shut up.
Yeah.
When I really want to run smack.
And some of you that are very close to me might go,
really, I haven't seen it.
But I'm just saying.
If you knew me then, you know me now and go,
wow, night and day to a certain degree.
Okay, there you go.
But seriously, I mean, if there's something that you have a really hard time overcoming, fast.
You'll find out.
If you do it without food and you spend that time, especially when you're hungry.
I find when I'm very hungry and I spend that time in the Word and that time in prayer,
which is what you're supposed to do.
A lot of people forget fasting.
They just sit and watch TV.
They're starving themselves.
They're trying to distract
themselves from being hungry right okay hello it's supposed to be spiritual the whole entire
time you fast is supposed to be a spiritual uh event if you will prayer and fasting you know
is that other part in the word yes like when're hungry, like the things that you see in the word that you didn't see before,
because it's crazy.
Yeah.
So make it spiritual.
I always tell people, like when you first start and you're not really sure what to do,
like when you would normally sit down for breakfast, like sit down and read the word.
When you normally sit for lunch, sit down and read the word.
When you normally sit down for a snack, read the word.
So you just kind of get into a habit of like, instead of thinking about food, you're like,
oh, I'll go grab my Bible now.
Because, I mean, this is one of the things,
I love what Kenneth Hagin says.
Oh, and actually Smith Wiggersworth said this.
He copied it from Smith Wiggersworth.
But it's feed, starve the flesh, feed the spirit.
So you starve the flesh, you feed the spirit.
And what are you feeding the spirit?
The word of God.
And so that's the thing.
I was listening to him and he said
that he would do daily devotions with his kids every day.
And then his wife, if he was out traveling,
then his wife would do them.
But when he did them,
he would instead of said, let's read the word or let's do our Bible study. He would always say,
let's feed our faith. And really that's what you're doing because faith comes by hearing and
hearing by the word of God. You're feeding your faith. What do you do when you eat? You then have
to exercise. So then you're going to exercise your faith and that's where you're have to exercise so then you're gonna exercise your faith and
that's where you're gonna see you grow spiritually strong without having to
exercise that faith then you maybe lots of people want to have faith but they
don't want to do what it takes to have the faith they just wanted to like all
of a sudden drop down from the sky and land on them. That's not how it works.
Through trials and tribulations and things like that,
that's where your faith grows.
And the word is very clear.
We're to rejoice in those times.
And if you're not like, because when you're rejoicing in those times,
that's when you're saying my faith is in him.
My faith is in what the word says the outcome will be,
which is always winning, victory,
overcoming, the whole nine. And so you feed your faith, you starve your flesh, and then you
exercise that faith by walking through things. And when you're walking through those things,
that's when you are rejoicing. So that's what the word tells us to do. And that's how your faith
becomes strong. It's like all of us work out in the gym for the most part.
I mean, Vanessa walks with her weighted vest,
so we'll count that.
Of course you count that.
I have my two-pound ankle weights on my walking pad.
But Tracy, you actually hit the gym with weights.
Yes, yes.
Vanessa has weighted vests.
My home gym. We're not talking about dates no listen we know she ain't going to the gym with me
but i do know because i've gotten pictures she's in the gym she's she just cleaned out
you just cleaned out the garage our garage noted that i did a hits workout this morning look at
you with weights no not with weights.
Body weight.
Okay, that's what we're talking about.
Body weight,
which is like,
I'm like a hundred
and none of your business.
Yeah.
I know that feeling right now.
So let that be noted.
But I'm just saying that to have a healthy body,
which I did not have.
So up until recently,
I would have been a flipping hypocrite to say this to you.
But to have a healthy body, you have to exercise.
And to have a healthy spiritual walk, it's the same.
Paul completely talks about this in the Word.
He talks about running a race.
He talks about training for it.
And in order to run that race,
which all of us are supposed to be running,
so that we can endure to the end,
in order to run that race, you have to exercise.
And then for all of us, we spiritually need to be exercising.
Spiritual exercise is getting in the Word,
but it's exercising the faith that you're getting while you're reading the word.
And that's when you see your muscles grow.
All of us need our muscles to grow.
And if you're a believer and you're not feeding your faith,
then you're a malnourished Christian.
100%.
Or all you want is dessert.
Right, exactly.
And so what I've learned is that a malnourished Christian will eat anything.
And there's so much bad doctrine and there's so much like bad theology.
Because you're reading books, not the Bible.
That's what she's talking about.
Just so you know, I'm just making sure you understand what she's saying.
You'll read a book instead of the word.
Go ahead.
Exactly.
So if you're malnourished, you're just going to start consuming anything.
And some of the stuff that you're consuming might not be beneficial.
And lead you astray. Yeah. That's how you get involved in to start consuming anything. And some of the stuff that you're consuming might not be beneficial.
And lead you astray.
Yeah.
That's how you get involved in cults.
Yes, true.
But also, yeah, but the other thing is, is a lot of people want dessert.
And when I would talk about dessert is what's the dessert, ladies?
Like hyper grace, right?
Well, hyper grace is a dessert. So you only want to be fed the things that you like, which would be hyper grace. Or the only thing you want to consume is the
prosperity message. Not the health. Health is totally different because people should be
striving for health. But some people only want wealth for personal gain, not because of the
biblical principle of why it is taught.
Or you want the emotionalism, you know, constantly feed me, feed me, feed me.
Let me have a feeling.
Let me have a feeling.
Let me have a feeling.
And then you do absolutely nothing with it.
You are spiritually fat.
And that's not good either.
I've been there.
Not spiritually fat.
I've just been fat.
Way too fat. I've been there. Not spiritually fat. I've just been fat. Way too fat.
Yeah.
Same Zs.
So something to be said for fasting across the board is,
and most of the time we only talk about it at the beginning of the year
because that's when most people do it.
So why not talk about it even if most people are doing it right now?
Why not talk about it? Yeah. It's super doing it right now, why not talk about it?
It's super important.
It's a topic of interest for lots of people.
But I would strongly encourage you to do it all year long,
not just at the beginning of the year.
It sets your year off correctly,
but you need to be implementing into your day-to-day walk in life.
So I think that's – I don't even know how we got on that,
but that's, I'm done. Perfect. That was great. Because Tracy's ready to go with the thing.
With the thing. You do your thing. Okay. I'm doing my thing. All right, everybody. Hey, Facebook.
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Let's just put our stuff out there.
And then TikTok, who knows, guys?
Who knows what's going to happen?
I have heard every conspiracy known to man about TikTok.
Is there anything recent?
Yeah. So the most recent thing is somebody said that the guy that owns TikTok is going to the inauguration and he is sitting behind Trump. So what they're thinking is that when Trump gets up,
he's going to pull this guy up on stage and they're going to announce that TikTok is not going anywhere. Listen,
there's receipts that this guy is going and his seat is saved behind Trump. So that's the most
recent. I'll be watching. And I can see Trump doing something that dramatic and that ridiculous.
So I'm rooting for that one. That's my own personal root. Yeah, you're a conspiracy theorist, first of all.
First of all, there's receipts.
And second of all, what's that group that they're real big conspiracy theorists?
QAnon.
Plus your dad is like a Q guy, right?
No, he wasn't.
But he was hopeful for it to happen.
But no, he never went deep into that.
But he was like, I don't know.
He would send me stuff.
But he's like, I don't know if it's true or not.
Do they exist anymore?
And where do they go?
What about the Kraken?
What happened to the Kraken?
Who's the Kraken?
That was the big thing that was going to come out that was going to release everything.
Oh, I think the Kraken's going to actually happen once Trump is in office.
Well, we can only pray to God because it needs to happen.
What was her name?
Do you remember her?
Well, it's a woman that's called the Kraken.
She was a lawyer, right?
Yes.
Wait a minute.
Is that?
No.
Isn't she General Flynn's? Yeah yeah i think so um is she called
the kraken though that was what they were calling it like the kraken yeah trump i maybe i'm spelling
it wrong you know oh what's your name gbt it or here here she is here she is uh with cindy powell Sydney Powell yeah she's a beach a beast a what?
a beach
that's a B word
in a different way
no
no no no
I was thinking
I was trying to say
beast
but I was thinking
beach at the same time
because of the kraken
because all I can think
is the kraken
coming out
out of the water
at the beach
good save
good save
yeah good save
but she's right
I even have oh i can't get
it out did they have i don't isn't the kraken like from uh from the pirates of the caribbean
and he comes up out of the water when you're at the beach i know i'm trying to like save this
like it's like an octopus kind of like the biggest yeah i'm working on it yeah because i'm like what's
the kraken and in my head i'm going the kraken oh wait because I'm like, what's the Kraken? And in my head, I'm going, the Kraken. Oh, wait a minute.
That's from Pirates of the Caribbean.
Oh, my gosh. And then all of a sudden, I see the Kraken coming out of the water.
Terrible epic thing.
That was bad timing, guys.
Oh, my gosh.
That could not have been worse timing.
What?
That was so funny.
She's a beast, though.
I mean, that woman is like, you don't mess with that woman.
Where is she?
Where did she go?
She was supposedly well
I might be wrong about this
now that I think about it but for some
reason I thought I heard she was moving to
Sarasota too. What?
Oh really? Yeah I did.
Not to the same place where General
Flynn lives but
I might be wrong about that.
I know that there were several people.
Yeah, there we go.
I know.
I've been trying to get this up the whole time.
But I was picturing it from the actual movie, Pirates of the Caribbean, which is similar
to that, but it's not exactly.
This is what comes up.
But that's exactly what I was thinking.
But they showed, like, it was like a beach view, I thought, where you saw the Kraken
coming up from the movie.
Probably. I haven't watched it very much.
But maybe it was from the boat.
I don't know.
I never even knew what the Kraken was.
I just remember the Kraken was like everybody was going to be like shocked.
Nobody could believe it.
And it, I mean, I always wonder.
I am too.
I am too.
But hey, hope said.
Hope said there's hope.
Well, they're saying that, Kash Patel Hope said there's hope.
They're saying that,
Kash Patel's saying he's releasing everything.
I hope so.
Kash Patel said everything's going to be exposed.
It needs to be. I hope so.
Because my head,
I literally look like my hat is tilted
and I look like I am a bad mama jamma.
Gangsta.
Exactly.
Like how I have it,
I keep looking and I'm going going i can't get it straight but
i look like i'm a i look like i'm a bad boy bad boy bad boy bad girl got it but you know what i
think i ruined this hat remember when i had salmonella and i got those bruises all over my
forehead and i had to wear this hat really low because my bruised forehead was so,
I think I ruined the hat, ladies.
Why did you have that bruising?
Because she ran into the wall.
Because, okay, for everyone watching.
She ran into the wall.
No, I ran into my, well, I ran into the roof of my water system.
And normally that wouldn't give me any bruising.
I had bruising all over my body.
The reason I had bruising all over my body was,
and now, you know what, I kept saying to somebody,
I don't remember the last time I took any pain,
like an Advil or anything like that.
I do now.
I'm reminded of it right this very moment.
Because when I got that salmonella poisoning from those chickens,
when me and Heather did these meat birds.
What month was that?
Do you remember what month that was?
It was hot, but it wasn't summer because we did it in spring.
I want to say if Heather was here, she'd remember it because she ordered them.
I want to say it was March.
I want to say it was March.
I haven't even taken anything since then,
but I couldn't remember the last't even taken anything since then,
but I couldn't remember the last time I took anything before then.
But when I got that salmonella, people, the thing was I was praying it off.
I would do really good, and then that thing come raging back.
And then I'd do really good, and that thing.
But I was so sick.
And no one knew.
No, because I don't talk about it. The reason I don't talk about it is because your life and death is held in the tongue.
But what I would have to do in order to be able to do some podcasts on certain days and just to function,
because not every day, but there were some days that were really, I was, my joints were aching.
Everything was for two weeks.
I was very, very sick.
Not every day, but pretty much every day.
And I would have to take Imodium because I'm not pretty.
Don't get me going then i have to take enormous amounts of a leave
when i told when i told natalie how much a leave i was taking she goes
oh i was like well that's not the response you want to hear from your medical
professional right oh i don't know if you should be taking like well in order to function
girls got to take it but in order to take that much what happens is your blood thins a lot apparently i've never taken like i don't take that
stuff right right clearly clearly my blood thinned so much that anytime i i like if you did this to
my skin i broke out in a huge bruise i had look at huge bruises all over my body what on the screen
oh my gosh. Put this up.
Same outfit.
But it's summer.
How did you find that? Look at the forehead.
Look at my forehead.
If you could see what's underneath that.
I couldn't even take it off.
Like I had to cut my bangs and change the way I wore them.
Because of that bruise.
I ended up liking the way I wore my hair better that way.
Romans 8, 28, right there.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, that was good.
But my skin was, I mean, I'm going to need a tissue.
Tears pouring down my face.
But because of that, I had bruises all over my body.
And I was hiding them from Tom, except for the one on my forehead.
Like there was no hiding that thing.
Oh, my gosh. Like there was no hiding that thing. No.
Oh my gosh.
So he literally saw my legs and my arms and he was like, what the?
You look like a battered woman.
He even said it.
He's like, Hope, don't let anybody see you. They'll be wondering what I've done to you.
Literally.
But my legs were covered.
Oh, my gosh.
And so were my arms.
It bruises from that freaking leave.
I don't know if the emodium, like the combo killed me.
Jesus.
But it wasn't pretty, people. Jesus. But they weren't
pretty people.
Wow.
Yep.
I was bruised
for like a month
and a half.
That's crazy.
I had to take a comb
to my bruises.
What?
Really?
To get rid of them.
Oh my gosh.
Because you have to
move all of the
blood that's like coagulated.
So eventually I was like, something's got to give here, people.
And as soon as the leave was out of my body, and I went and had streaks of bruising from
me trying to move it.
From the comb.
From the comb.
Because literally, I was bruising so bad.
If I had tried to, I would have bruised comb marks across my forehead.
As soon as all that was
gone, I literally
started combing them out. That's when I got rid of them.
Tom was like,
he wasn't in no parts of this.
No more leave for you.
I don't even take the
crap. I know, you can't.
I don't even take...
I mean, literally, if i get a headache
i start praying it off and normally it's gone pretty quick yeah oh my gosh um but if it doesn't
go then i know it's because i'm dehydrated and i didn't drink water all day right which i get on
the water and then it goes but normally oh my oh my gosh. Oh, man.
That was freaking funny.
That was funny.
But, oh, to live the life.
I'm telling you.
I didn't eat any of those chickens for a while.
I know.
Now I do.
Do you?
Okay.
I couldn't do it.
I know. I couldn't do it.
I can imagine.
I hated them.
Yeah.
I was so mad at them.
But, okay.
Okay.
Enough about that.
Okay.
We have things to do. Yes. Yeah. And we're over. But okay. Okay. Enough about that. Okay. We have things to do.
Yes.
Yeah.
And we're over our time limit.
Okay.
Let's do this.
We're three minutes in and we've done absolutely nothing.
We're three minutes in.
What's new, people?
Right.
Excuse me.
I dribbled water.
You got a napkin now.
I just swished it off.
Now that I've cried out half of that water that I just took in.
Oh my gosh, let's do sponsors really quick.
And then we're just going to go.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
We're going to move.
Let's do it.
Thank you for cutting that off.
What is that?
I said thank you for cutting that off.
Oh my gosh, Tal.
Get over it, sister.
No fun.
Okay, I know.
She's no fun.
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like him,
you know,
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Personal problems. Okay. First question. I think you may have already answered this on another
podcast, which I did. You are absolutely right.
But I don't mind going over this question again because people are new that are watching or listening.
And then on top of that, a lot of people listen, but they don't listen when they're listening.
What happens?
I'll be listening and then I'll miss part of it.
Thank you.
Miss part of it because I start doing something else, which causes me to be distracted.
You guys know what I'm talking about?
Oh, yeah.
And then you hear something, you're like, well, that was interesting.
Well, you missed half of it.
But you found half of it interesting.
So Psalm 90.10 talks about the years of a person are 70 to 80 years of life.
And then Genesis 6.3 says the days of man shall be 120 years.
How do I answer someone who says we are only supposed to live to 80 years old?
Listen, even after I tell you how to answer the question, people are going to still do that.
I mean, people want an excuse to not believe the word and to justify 70 to 80 years of age.
They will.
So some will believe you.
Hopefully more will believe you than they don't because the word is true.
It says, we're going to look at the scriptures.
First, let's go to Genesis 6, 3. And this is where it says that 120 years will be how
long you live. Then the Lord said, my spirit shall not forever dwell and strive with man,
for he also is flesh, but his days shall yet be 120 years. Now, why would God change his mind to 70 to 80 years all of a sudden?
Why would he do that?
I mean, I don't think he does very much, but there might be reasons why this occurred.
Let's look at scripture.
This is why it's important to study the word.
Psalm 90 10 says, the days of our years are three score years and 10, 70 years, or even if by reason of
strength, four score 80 years. Yet it is their pride. Pay attention to what this says. Or even
if by reason of strength, four score years, which is 80 years, yet it is their pride. That's why you got to read very carefully
and then study it. It is their pride. Who is there that this is referring to? In additional years,
only labor and sorrow for it is soon gone and we fly away. Who is there? T-H-E-I-R. Who is that
that it's being referred to? If you go down to the footnotes, if you study the Bible,
I'm not busting your chops because you're asking this question.
I'm just saying, if the person that's asking this question
would also study the Bible,
they'll find out when you tell them
what that actual scripture is referring to.
If they study it out, they'll realize you're right.
And their thought process is wrong. The footnote says, this psalm is credited to, if they study it out, they'll realize you're right. And their thought process is wrong. Footnote says, this Psalm is credited to Moses. So Moses actually wrote this.
Okay. Moses wrote this scripture. It says, who was interceding with God to remove the curse,
which made it necessary for every Israelite over 20 years of age when they rebelled against God at Kadesh Ben-Ara
to die before reaching the promised land.
So God doesn't change his mind.
The only reason he changed it here is for specific reasons.
The rule didn't change that we lived 120 years.
It only changed for these Israelites that were disobedient
and they rebelled against God. And so God didn't want them to live 120 years wandering around
in the wilderness. Okay, that would have been awful. He had compassion. He had mercy. It says,
even though Moses is asking the Lord to change the thought on this,
Moses says most of them are dying at 70 years of age.
This number has often been mistaken as part of a span of life for all mankind.
It was not intended to refer to anyone except those Israelites under the curse
during that particular 40 years.
Seventy years never has been the average span of life for humanity.
When Jacob, the father of the 12 tribes, had reached 130 years,
which is in Genesis 47, 9,
he complained that he had not attained to the years of his immediate ancestors.
And people want to retire at 55 from doing the Lord's work.
There's no retirement.
Nope.
When you get to retire from having a job.
You never retire from doing the Lord's work,
just so you know.
Moses himself lived to be 120 years old. Aaron was 123,
and Miriam was several years older,
and Joshua was 110 years of age.
Note as well that in the millennium,
a person dying at 100 will still be thought a child,
which is in Isaiah 6520.
So my thought processes on this is
most people never studied the word out
to understand what each verse means.
And so because of that,
people have accepted a lifespan
that is just not acceptable
as far as the Lord is concerned.
He's given you 120 years.
Now people make fun of Tom.
They think he's crazy because he says 120 years
is how old he's gonna live.
Tom and I actually pray that we remain looking young,
that we like, even in our demeanor, it's very young-like.
Because if you think about it,
Adam lived to, he was 900 right do you think he started looking like a grape at the age of 60 65 what would he have looked at like a 90 900 if
that was the case uh Moses uh do you think he looked like what we are seeing a lot of 80 year
olds and 90 years old near all 90 year olds look like? Nope. He didn't. He
climbed a stinking mountain and he died. I don't think, like, exercise is huge. That's the reason
I say, you know, we were just talking about this. Exercise is huge because, again, you want to live
life to its fullest and you want to do the Lord's work to your last breath
you have to be physically fit in order
to do that and
most people just
their mouths, the words
I'm getting old or
they talk about their wrinkles
I won't do that
listen, I just got the best facial
on the face of the earth yesterday
from Tracy Lopes.
Okay.
And listen,
I do.
She told me that
these marks on my face,
they're not from being old.
They're from
laying on the side of my face.
But now you have a silk.
I do,
but
but I don't talk about, I don't talk about me being old.
I don't talk about sickness and illness coming my way because of my age.
I don't talk about my back hurting because that's what happens when you get older.
I don't do any of that nonsense.
Like me with the salmonella.
Nobody knew.
That's true.
And the reason I didn't do that is because life and death is held in the tongue.
And like for me, I didn't want to buy into that.
So I fought it with every step I took
when I walked it out every single day.
I mean, I literally spoke to my body constantly.
Tom didn't even know.
And so for me, I think like perspective what does the Word of
God say that's the perspective that each and every single one of us have to walk
in talk in and be like and if you want to accept this 70 to 80 years is your
lifespan go for it but when you do, remember that God has so much more for you, and there are so
many more people that lives you're supposed to have touched, saved, healed, spoken into,
ministered to, discipled, and you just cut all of that short because of poor thought, poor words, lack of knowledge.
2 Timothy 2.15, I love what it says.
And this is the New Living Translation.
I don't have this one memorized.
I have the New King James memorized.
But I loved what it said, so I changed what I was going to.
I changed the, what is it?
Version.
Version that I was going to read.
Thank you.
It says,
work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker,
one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.
Okay, you have to be able to explain what you're reading, but it has to also be something that you studied out and you know exactly what
it means. When people walk around and say, Psalm 9010 says we only get to live to 70 to 80 years.
Okay. They're not correctly explaining the word of God. They're actually changing what it says,
because that's not what it says. And that was pertaining only to the israelites that were wandering around with moses
because they couldn't enter into the promised land that's all that means i mean that's good
so if i were you and you're like i'm i'm gonna be 58 in may and, like, now I'll be honest with you.
I have no desire to live to 120.
I have no desire.
I might need to because Tom is one year younger than me
and he can't find some hotsy totsy.
That's true.
If I live to 120.
He'd have one year.
There ain't enough time.
One year, there ain't enough time.
I might need to live to 120.
Just out of spite to him.
Because he's doing it out of spite to you guys.
I might just need to do it out of spite to him.
I think you should.
I think you should stick around.
You know what?
I am.
We're younger, so you have to hang out with us.
You can't leave us.
Well, one of the reasons we want to do it, though, is to prove the word of God.
Well, I haven't, but now I am because I'm going to do it at a spike.
But one reason is so that you can prove out the word of God.
You don't have to die.
You can live a very long time and look amazing through the whole entire process and be full of life.
Yeah, let's go let's go yeah
let's do it okay let's do it to it okay this is recorded so listen your word is your word that is
true now you have to stick around oh you're taking yeah yeah you're fine jeff is 10 years older than
me right so time for you. I'll have 10 years.
I'll have 10 years.
Come hang out with me.
Yeah.
Someone's going to
have to like take me in.
I already cleaned you.
I'll be gone.
You guys are way younger than me.
I'll be gone.
But what happens
when I lose all of you guys?
You have Tommy.
You have Tommy.
You have Norma.
He's seven years older than me.
That's true.
You have Norma.
You have Tommy.
You have Norma.
Norma's like five.
You have Kristen. I think Norma's going out early with Vanessa. That's true. You have Norma. You have Tommy. You have Norma. Norma's like five. You have Kristen.
I think Norma's going out early with Vanessa.
So you might have to go out early.
You have Maddie.
Yeah.
I think at that point we all proved 120.
So you don't have to live to 120.
You can come see us.
That's true.
Okay.
I will.
That's enough proof.
I will.
If all of us do it.
No, you're right.
I mean, that's kind of like rubbing it in their face at that point.
That sounds a little prideful.
Yeah. Okay. That might be. That works. Talia doesn't have to stick around. No, you're right. I mean, that's kind of like rubbing it in their face at that point. That sounds a little prideful. Yeah. Okay. That might be. Talia doesn't have to stick around. No, I don't.
You can go when Norma goes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think that's fair. Yeah. Go when Norma goes.
So what's that like 117 or something? That would be way better. Okay. I say yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right all righty we're gonna go to the next question
unless you guys want to add to that no that's good that was really good good answer good answer
good answer
i'll get it one of these times
you did one time i know one but it still was like a delay.
I got to figure this out.
I've never seen you get it right yet.
Wait, I did.
I got it right.
It just.
I mean, that was a little too long.
It needs to be audio and it needs to be play.
But I need to cut off the beginning part because it's like when I started screen recording.
So it like waits too long.
I need it to be like instant.
So I got to get it fixed.
In season and out of season.
Instant.
Exactly. Now, this is another good one this is another good question what the tarnation just happened
i hope i hope i did not just hit for this thing to uh update i thought i hit the x
we might be closing out in 15 So we have that one question that came
in earlier today. Did you know? I got it. But if it shuts down on me, we're in trouble.
But I do have that one question of which the one question that came in today, we will read.
We will do today. I got 15 minutes. I think I can do it. Okay. If a baby dies, do they go to heaven?
Growing up mostly in the Baptist church, I heard about the age of accountability
that would mean that before a child is old enough to accept Christ as Lord and Savior and died,
they would go to heaven.
Well, I believe, for me, I believe that there is an age of accountability.
I believe an infant, toddler, I mean, it just depends on the age of accountability i think beyond a toddler to be
honest with you um i think that um for every child there are some kids that are have high intellect
right so for them their age of accountability is going to be sooner than somebody like
i don't know like my kids i could put their christmas presents in the in the cart
till they were about 10 they had no clue it was their christmas presents like okay not the
brightest light box in the box not the brightest crowns in the in the in the crown box either i
mean like some of us the apple did not not fall from that tree for them. Okay?
Their dad is brilliant.
Their mother.
So they're like me. The age accountability is higher for those.
For some of us, it's higher.
I don't know.
I feel bad for the ones that have a higher intellect.
You might go to hell sooner than I would.
I don't know.
But I'm just saying, every kid is different because every kid just doesn't see things in the same way.
Right.
Like there are some there are some children like Brinley.
I think of Brinley.
I think of Charlotte that are like they get everything just like that.
Yeah.
They just do.
And then there are some people that are just, you know, happy-go-lucky,
la-di-da-ing through life.
Like, that was me.
I didn't care.
Like, education, smagication.
I didn't care.
Facts.
I just didn't.
It wasn't my thing.
Tag is over true.
That was Vanessa, but yes, I'm also true.
She was backing her.
Yeah, okay.
So, like, some of us us we're just like but for certain
kids they're like eating up the books and like loving learning i think of isabel isabel loves
to learn my my sister-in-law loves to learn i'm like what is there to love specific things
well yeah i mean for the Bible, like, for me,
like, I feel like that about the Bible.
If that's relatable
to the word, okay, I get it.
But,
like, just to sit down and learn something
new, to learn something new,
are you kidding me?
Why?
Why? Why put yourself
through it?
But, I mean, my sister-in-law,
like, they love it.
Yeah.
They thrive in it.
Jeff loves to learn.
So does my dad.
He's always got a book in his ear,
like, always learning.
That's my dad.
Yeah.
And I'm...
I know.
Like, both of them have their great traits. Yeah, for sure. yeah okay one's not better than the other it's
just what makes you more accountable quicker than the other I think in my opinion because
it's when you know right from wrong at the end of the day and let's face it a child does not
a baby doesn't know I mean I'm going to give you some scripture. Here, let's go. You have to, first of
all, be able to receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior and actually conceptually understand what
that means, right? So a lot of, nobody can reconcile that until certain ages. So Romans 5, 12, and this is the New King James Version, says,
when Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam's sin brought death, so death spread to everyone
for everyone sinned. So when we're all brought into this world, it said that actually we were
made in his image. We were made in Adam's image. Adam was made in God's image. Adam was like in
God's image until he sinned, until he ate of the fruit. And then that changed everything.
And then we were made in Adam's image, but with the sin. So we're all born sinners. Now,
what does that look like for a baby, an infant? They can't, they can't even talk
to say the sinner's prayer or to even say, Lord, forgive me of my sin, or to even like their brain
is mush. Like they're going to understand. Toddlers, again, I mean, five-year-olds,
five-year-olds don't understand any of this stuff. But even some special needs adults.
That's a whole other thing.
You're only accountable for what you know, not for what you don't know.
And a lot of people will go, oh, I don't know.
You're lying.
You're lying only to yourself because the rest of us know that's a big, fat lie.
Nobody's buying what you're selling.
You're only accountable for what you know.
And then in some cases, you should know what you should know.
And you'll be held accountable for not knowing that because you should know that.
Like you're going to say, I didn't know it was wrong to steal.
How can you not know that?
But there will be people that will literally say, I didn't know that.
Like I didn't know sex outside of marriage
was a sin. Well, how do you not know that? It's, to me, like, that's craziness. You're not going
to get away with that. Innately, we do know right from wrong. The word tells us that as well. So,
but like for me, I got saved at five. I understood what I was doing when I did it at five.
Now, I understood that I was asking Jesus into my heart
and that I would love and live for him forever.
But at five, I did understand there was a hell
and I did know that sin would get me there.
But I didn't know exactly what sins would do that.
I just knew that I loved Jesus, and I wanted to live with him and be with him forever.
That's not understanding everything.
But understanding enough to say, Jesus knew that my heart was right.
I mean, I cry like a baby.
I had a headache.
Like I cried so hard and I knew like I knew what I was doing in that respect.
And so I was so happy that I had done that.
But I didn't know that if I lied at five, I knew it was wrong.
And I knew that Jesus didn't like it.
But I didn't know lying would send me to hell.
That's where being accountable, even at five,
there's not an accountability, in my opinion, to the level of somebody who's 10. At 10, you're
starting to be accountable. You have an understanding. You know when you're manipulating
that it's evil. It's not good. That you have ill intent. Whereas an infant, when they're manipulating,
it's just so they can get their way.
They don't understand that there's evilness behind what they're trying to do.
This is very wrong, what I'm trying to do.
And the reason I'm wanting it is for self motives.
Even an infant knows it's for self motives,
but they don't understand all of that, that it
comes with. They just know that if I get this, I'll be happy. It's totally different. And everybody
that has children understand what I'm saying, because you know what it was like for your
infant to do it from your 10-year-old to do it. Jeremiah 17, 9 says, the human heart is the most
deceitful of all things and desperately wicked. Who knows how bad it is?
So we know how bad it is because like I just said, you can tell the difference between a heart of an
infant that wants to do something wrong versus the heart of a 10-year-old who wants to do something Yes, absolutely. Okay. Okay, so Isaiah 716 is very good.
And this is where it talks about choosing right from wrong.
It says,
For before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right,
the land of the two kings you dread will be laid to waste.
So you can get rid of the last part of that,
but Isaiah is clearly saying that a boy will know right from wrong,
and he'll have the option to choose right or wrong.
So there is a time frame where you shift from revelation of,
I just do this because I just do this too.
I do this and I know this isn't right for me to do.
It's like cheating.
At what point when you're going through school,
in elementary school,
do you understand that cheating is not right to do?
Instead of just looking at your
friend's paper and writing down what they say, now you're doing it because you know you're going to
not get a good grade and that'll affect things. You know, you might get in trouble by your parents,
so you're going to have to cheat because you can't fail and you didn't do what it took to
to get the good grade. At some point, the brain starts clicking and our conviction and our guilt is what changes the accountability.
If you had no conviction, you just did it because whatever, but then there's the conviction. Does
that make sense, ladies? Yep. Yes. John 9, 39 through 41, this is the Amplified Classic. And this is where Jesus is talking to the Pharisees.
And he says to them, because the Pharisees, it is so clear.
The people know right from wrong, and there's a time of accountability
where you know that you're doing right from wrong,
and you'll be held accountable for it.
Then Jesus said, I came into this world for judgment. And this is Amplified
Classics, so it's breaking it down pretty clearly. And when he's talking about he came into the world
for judgment, that means as a separator in order that there be a separation between those who
believe on me and those who reject me, to make the sightless see and to make those who see become He's not talking about their vision.
He's talking about spiritually, where their eyes are open to see his truth,
or they're blind to the spiritual truth because they've chosen to reject that he is the Messiah.
Okay?
Some Pharisees who were near hearing this remark
said to him, are we blind?
And Jesus said to them, and this is why it's so funny
because people think Jesus was so, he's so sweet,
cuddly, ooey gooey, nice, never said anything.
It's not true.
Pharisees were like our great politicians,
our great priests and men of God,
the people, you know, that are corrupt. Jesus said to them, if you were blind,
you would have no sin. But because you now claim to have sight, your sin remains. So you say you can see. If you can see then,
then you're sinning because you know better. You're saying you can see, so that means you
know better. And yet, even though you know better, you still continue to sin. Does that make sense,
ladies? If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin, but because you insist, we do see clearly
you are unable to escape your guilt.
So for me, there comes a time,
and I think, and this is just my personal opinion,
even for children that are raised in homes
that are not godly homes, right?
Everybody knows right from wrong. I grew up in a Christlike
home or a godly home. So from very, very young age, my parents were explaining to me right from
wrong, but from a biblical perspective, like I would tell parents one of the greatest things,
and I don't know if necessarily happened in my home that I grew up in. But one of the things that I try to teach my children,
I say that only because I'm so young, I can't remember everything my parents did.
And when I was teaching my children things like,
when they were very young, I would say, if I caught them in a lie.
I wouldn't tell them, you don't lie.
We don't lie because it's not good to lie.
I wouldn't explain not lying the way the world would perceive it.
I explained lying as the word says it.
And I would explain from a heart perspective, because that's what God's going to look at.
How it what does your heart look like?
So I would explain to them, this is what the Word of God says when we lie.
We don't lie because the Bible tells us we should not lie.
And if we do, these are the consequences for lying.
I put it in the perspective of the way the word says it. A lot of parents, even Christian parents,
don't teach their children not to sin from a biblical perspective. They just say,
we don't lie in this house. Well, why don't we lie? Because I said so. Or because it's not good.
How will people believe you if you lie? That's not what you do. I mean, that's good, but it's not really.
You're not going all the way with it.
You need to explain from a biblical perspective and scripturally why you don't lie
so that you're hiding the word in their heart
so that that word won't return void.
The next time they want to lie,
that word will come back to them hopefully
and they'll go, wait a minute, I can't do that because the Bible tells me that's where the heart gets involved. It's the planting seed.
Everything's about the heart. The word of God needs to be put in our children's hearts every
single day. From sin to promises to every single aspect of what the Bible entails.
That's what we do.
It's super, super important that we always go back to the Bible.
That is life.
The Bible is life.
It's so funny.
I see parents tell me how another sibling, they'll have kids,
and the one sibling will see another sibling get hurt or be sick.
And the first thing that child wants to do for its sibling is to go lay hands on that child
and pray for it to be well. Why do you think that happened? It's not osmosis. It's because
you taught them the word of God. You didn't say, well, this is what we do in this house. We're all
going to lay hands on each other. And we're to believe God that, no, what somebody did in that house is says the word, the Bible tells us this. If we ask anything
in his name, it shall be done. We shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. If two or more
or three are gathered together in his name, it shall come to pass. Somebody was giving word
to those children. So they understood that this is what I must do for my family member because faith tells me that they can be well.
Those are the things that you have to do with your child through every aspect of its life.
Again, from sin to the promises to healing to their callings in life. was just talking to somebody this week about how a lot of times parents are always preparing their
kids for college and what God wants them to do after high school, but we never prepare them on
what God's calling is for them when they become an adult. Shouldn't we be looking at what God's
calling on them from ministry is before we start looking at the calling God has for them
to be a doctor or an accountant or a CPA or whatever it is?
But we don't do that.
And it boggles my mind that we're not doing this with our children.
And for some people, this is like I'm speaking a foreign language to them right now. How can this be though? It's because you're not reading your word either.
Our job is to train up a child in the way that it should go. And when it grows old,
it will not depart from it. If you study that scripture out, a big portion of that scripture
actually is teaching them their calling so that they can fulfill their calling. And if they fulfill their calling,
they won't walk away from the Lord.
That's the job.
Most people don't take that job seriously.
They don't even know what their calling is.
So how can they help their child fulfill their calling?
We should be doing this from a very young age
where we're seeing things in our kids.
Like I knew both of my kids, what God's called them to be in ministry,
and I knew it at a very young age.
And I have been cultivating and steering it and encouraging it,
and I haven't always told them what I knew God had told them
that they were going to be.
But my job is to direct that, not force-feed it.
It's like some people want to force-feed their kids. like they want them to be a doctor or an attorney or whatever.
And they shove it down that kid's throat and they push and they push and they push and the kids
like, I don't want to do that. You don't do that with your kids calling you let you pray over them
just like you pray over their their their future spouse that they're going to have. You pray over that calling for them
so that when the time is right for the Lord to reveal that to them, their heart is open and they
see every skill set and every natural thing that the Lord has cultivated inside of them for them
to say, oh, that makes sense that you would want me to do that because I'm good at this, I'm good at this, I'm good at this,
and that would be easy for me to do.
God never asks us to do something that will be difficult for us.
He set us up for success, not setting us up for failure, right?
So whatever calling he has for our children and for you,
it'll be one that you step in and it's easy.
It's seamless. You'll just do it because it's easy. Like it's like seamless.
You'll just do it because it's the gifts that he's provided you to fulfill that calling.
Does that make sense, ladies?
Yes.
So I said way more than about a baby and an infant.
But truth is, is yes, I believe that if children and even like Vanessa said,
there are some people that have special needs and they don't have what it takes because maybe
their parents did drugs and fried their brain or whatever it is, who knows why it happened to them.
Those people have a special exception as much as a baby and an infant do.
But you're accountable for what you know and what you don't know.
And you can try and fool people all you want to and say, well, I don't know.
You can't fool God.
God knows if you know.
So, all right.
Does anybody add anything to that?
That was really good.
And I agree with you.
Like setting, like Jeremiah 29, 11 says that,
I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord plans to prosper you and not to harm you,
plans to give you hope and a future. And that begins from the very beginning.
And also 2 Peter says 3, 9, the Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what his
promise is, according to some people's conception of slowness, but he is long suffering towards you, not desiring that any should
perish, but that all should turn to repentance. So if you're a baby and you can't repent of your
sins, it has to align with the word. And so like you said, he sets us up for success. And for a
baby to die, that's not his plan. And so his plan is never for any man to perish. So I don't know.
According to a lot of Bible verses,
I can't find one that would make sense why a baby would go to hell because
they weren't able to say the salvation.
Well,
I've heard people say,
this is what I've heard.
I,
you know,
you hear all these different theories and stuff like that.
And I'm not telling you to believe what I believe.
It's like,
I've heard people believe
in there's more than three heavens.
All right?
I'm sure you guys have too.
All right?
Now, it only talks about
the third heaven in the Bible.
So can I say that
there's not more than
three heavens?
I don't know that.
I'm not gonna,
I'm not gonna tell people what to believe
when it comes to those things. Cause it doesn't specifically say there's only three. Do I believe
there's more than that? No, I don't. I believe like probably every one of you over there believes.
Okay. But I can't tell somebody who believes in more that there aren't because I scripturally
don't have anything to go on with that.
I don't know where I was going with this. Hold on. Let me think.
Well, I was just saying that like it doesn't it's not like you're I think what you're maybe saying it's not verbatim in the Bible, but there's a lot of scriptures that back it.
Yeah. Oh, no, I was. Thank you. God bless you. Just help me. So thank you for that.
So with babies, I've heard, well, the lord knew which ones were going to actually if they
hadn't died which ones would actually serve him which ones would be would be would not live for
him like they would be as criminal they would be sinful they would never um get their lives right
with him so those ones automatically go to hell. I've literally heard that.
Now, do I have scripture that goes against that?
No, I don't.
Specifically, I cannot find one thing in scripture
that says that babies automatically go to heaven.
It's not in there, I looked.
It's not.
But do I honestly believe that God would do that?
He'd send something that's never made a bad choice
consciously and send him
straight to hell no I wouldn't do that everybody has their theories and
everybody has their opinions can I tell you you're wrong for believing that no
cuz I don't have that but I don't believe that for one second not why it
one one second at all and when I heard it I've heard it more than once I'm like
man I wonder if they believe in predestination that's what that kind of sounds like you know
what I probably should have asked that question yeah I was just thinking that when somebody said
I'm gonna try and remember that the next time I hear that yeah that's what it sounds like I
bet you that's what it is because I just just was like, man, that's a harsh thought process.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's got to be.
Most likely.
Yeah.
Well, and you know, I don't know.
I don't know why somebody would think there's more than three heavens either.
But I do know that, I mean, there are, I mean, have you heard that before?
Yeah.
I just, I'm like, I don't, I don't know why you would think that,
but I mean, maybe you read a book or something
that it made something in the Bible sound like
that might be the way it is.
I don't know.
But those are the things that I don't care about.
I don't debate them.
It doesn't matter to me.
You're going to heaven whether there's 10 heavens
instead of just three if you live a
christ-like lifestyle i don't care it's not a heaven and hell thing for me so i'm not debating
you about it and i'm not going to argue over it i don't really care the last question which was one
from today which i really do do just want to answer really quick um just because it's super
simple super fast super easy for me to run through really quick.
And just to answer it, it says, do you think we'll ever have a Wednesday service?
So this is somebody that comes to this church because they are referring to us.
And I'm going to answer it because it's going to take less than three minutes unless you guys want to answer it.
But we already do have a Wednesday service.
And that Wednesday service is youth group, if you have a kid, and then a group called
the essentials. And so we do have a Wednesday service. And if you don't go to that, which
sounds like you don't, you really should think about going to it. It's a phenomenal class.
It's for people who are newly in their walk, with people who are, um, that are, that are seasoned
believers. It, I've been to two of the classes and it taught things that I learned, uh, I don't know,
15 years into my walk with God. So it covers a huge amount of stuff, um, about the Bible,
about why you should believe. I mean, it goes everything.
I mean, it's so good.
It's such a good teaching.
It covers everything from hermeneutics to, I don't know,
like why we believe what we believe to where the tomb is that Jesus was crucified in.
I mean, it covers everything that would foundationally make you believe the word of God,
along with understanding biblical teachings and preachings. And so for me, like it just for foundational purposes,
most people don't know, like even the foundational things about the Bible,
why they believe what they believe. This class is great for it, but then on top of it,
it doesn't just stick to that. It has different levels. And I think they have five levels right now for this class.
It's pretty easy to go to.
And for me, some people have gone through some of these classes,
some of the same classes more than once,
because they're still learning and they can remember what they,
I mean, for me, there is Wednesday night.
Maybe you've gone to that.
So you want something different.
And I would say to you, well, there ain't much we don't do during the week.
Monday night is women's and men's.
Tuesday night, we used to have one.
It just stopped in November.
But if you're a woman, there's the abide group.
If you're a man,
I don't know what to tell you, but there's
plenty of men's groups
that are all by themselves.
We have separate small groups
from this church along with hubs.
We have lots of hubs
at this church.
Wednesday night is what we said
and all these groups, there's
child care. So if you have a kid, you can And all these groups, there's childcare.
So if you have a kid, you can bring your kid.
Then there's Thursday night once a month for virtuous, if you're a woman.
Then there's mine once a quarter, and it's probably going to be every other month that we have Dare to Be.
Then we have Crave, which is a worship night, which is going to be at least once a quarter.
What am I missing?
Soul winning on Saturday morning every other week.
I mean,
there's YAG,
there's Fortress Youth,
you know,
like it depends how old all these people are,
but like we,
we really do.
We have stuff all the time.
And so for me, I sit there and say,
I mean,
even,
I don't know.
We do way more than any church I've ever gone to.
We have more stuff.
It may not be on Wednesday night.
So what my only question was is, are you wanting a Wednesday night because you want more worship?
Which we do have worship nights.
I mean, we are going to have at least one a quarter.
Are you wanting more hearing Tom preach?
Because that's not going to happen
because Tom's got the podcast five nights a week.
But Jonathan and Pastor Rodney don't teach
during the middle of the week.
And people will say, well, we're not them.
You're right, we are not them. But I will say, well, we're not them. You're right.
We are not them.
But I would say, well, they probably have parishioners who would love to have them preach once a week or something like more than Sunday morning or whatever.
But, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe it's because you want Tom to preach or something like that.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, if I knew more of the reason why this question was being asked,
I would,
it would help me out a lot more,
but we have a lot going on.
So I would encourage you to dig into something else.
Maybe go to the women's group or the men's group on Monday night.
And that,
that be,
I mean,
Travis does a phenomenal job with the men.
Yeah.
He does a great job.
So if this is a guy, if this is a guy that's asking,
like it's probably more than one person that is thinking this question.
So if you're a guy and you agree with this question or whatever,
okay, come to Monday nights.
I hear nothing but great thing about Monday nights.
If you're a woman and you feel like this, come to Monday nights. I hear nothing but great thing about Monday nights. If you're a woman and you
feel like this, come to Monday nights. And then there's a whole lot of other things for women
that we do for this church that the men don't get. So men, sorry about that.
And we have coming up, and Travis is still working on it, which we've been working on since I think it was November of last year.
It might be October.
Sometime in October or November of last year, we've been working on a girls' gun club.
Yeah.
So we'll be doing that.
And Travis is going to be teaching us how to use a gun without killing somebody.
Women, we have a lot for women.
We do have a lot for women. We don we have a lot for women. We do have a lot for women.
We don't have a lot for men.
So men, for the men that are watching, I apologize.
Right.
And if they most likely, if they come to this church,
they probably watch the TLP and they have interactive,
like there's the live chat every single Monday through Friday too.
So if you're a guy.
Women tend to want community more than men do.
True, true.
Usually guys need
that like i'm i'm worked all day i'm gonna go home and chill yeah girls are like i'm gonna hang out
and talk yeah exactly yeah which hey here's the thing too like um i wouldn't i wouldn't suggest
i wouldn't i mean i'm very careful about but even like soul winning
soul winning they they learn in soul winning like uh Eddie is famous for having a lesson
during soul winning and he's good like Eddie's a great speaker yeah like I I love I love it I love
when he gets up and he speaks Francelle's a a great speaker, too. I wonder if this person grew up going to a midweek service.
That's what I was thinking.
They're used to worship and then the preacher preaching.
I'm not saying that's gone away with the dinosaur,
but it kind of has gone away because even my sister's church,
they have a midweek service but it's not
a preaching one it's a bible study that the pastor does so it's not it's not even it's not a midweek
service okay that thing has gone away with like the dodo bird and and now like like sunday night
services have gone away right yeah and now like if that was a thing back in the day because i guess
we used to have it at assembly of god, but like there wasn't a YouTube.
You couldn't go like listen to like anything really.
Like you'd have to find like a CD or a disc.
Like you,
like there are so many great preachers.
And a lot of people don't like that.
They want in the building.
They can get that every other day.
They can get that Monday.
No,
I'm saying,
but if you wanted,
if you wanted worship,
cause some people are big.
That's why I would love to know more about this. Yeah. Right. That makes sense. if you wanted worship because some people are big that's why i would love to
know more about this yeah right that makes sense if you love worship and you love the
community yeah corporate worship yes is there another word corporate
god bless it no neighborhood corporate. You like corporate worship?
Yeah.
I love busting on Vanessa.
You know that.
Yes, she does.
Vanessa knows this, just in case you didn't.
But I love, I do love, I love corporate worship.
So if that's what this person's longing for,
well, then that's when you have Friday nights
once a month with Heather.
And there's corporate worship right there
because Monday nights,
two nights are Teresa Monday nights,
two of them, every other with her.
Sarah is one of them.
And she does the fifth one of the month.
So you sometimes get Sarah twice.
And then Heather, you get the worship with the word.
Yeah, right.
For me, I just, I don't know.
I would love to know what's the reasoning behind it, not in a nasty way,
because I'm not necessarily, I'm taking what this person's saying
and believing it's done with a good heart.
Because sometimes people have these little passive aggressive little zingers that they want to send to you.
I don't believe, and I'm not going to take it, that that's the case with this question.
So for me, it's like, why?
And we do have plenty. So maybe, maybe I'm missing something. But I'm always
up for hearing everything, learning for some things. And we know that we're missing some
things here. Like this year, I know that we're missing some things for some people. We're working
on all of that. I was praying it through last year some of it i'm believing is
going to come to pass this year some of it actually did come to pass last year but but like we've
grown exponentially we are a small staff and like we got to figure it out yeah we're not we're not
hiring people just to hire people we're not going to have staff just to have staff.
It's not going to happen.
Right.
So.
Because even Wednesday nights.
And that's not healthy.
Wednesday nights, they're practicing in there.
You know?
Right.
But what this person would say, well, they can practice on another night.
Let's have a Wednesday night service.
And I'm not saying that they would say that meanly.
Yeah.
They're like, there's always a solution to that.
Don't do it on that night.
Right.
And the youth group can come in there and worship then
and go back to the youth group.
I know, but we have a youth band now.
And they're starting, which I'm excited about.
Can you lean this way?
I'm out of focus.
You are.
There it is.
Thank you.
I didn't even know I was out of focus.
No, it just happened.
Yeah, exactly.
So with that being said, and 20 minutes late,
I thought it would be a faster question,
but just know,
like we know we're not all things to all people.
Not saying that we ever will be,
but we're going to try.
So if you want to,
if you end up watching this and you end up seeing this question,
you want to expound on it.
I might be able to answer it privately.
Maybe it can happen.
Maybe it can't happen.
It's not going to happen on Wednesday night though. We're not doing that Maybe it can't happen. It's not going to happen
on Wednesday night though.
We're not doing that
because I can already tell you
Tom's not,
Tom's already like,
Yeah.
Not that he can't preach more.
He loves preaching,
but he's already,
already dedicated
and gave his word
to do the podcast.
Yeah.
And we must do that.
So we've made commitments.
So we're going to stick to that promise.
But that being said, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you for tuning in.
We will see you on Sunday, hopefully.
Hopefully, hopefully.
Otherwise, have a great weekend.
I know we're going to have a great weekend.
We got some things cooking.
True.
Heck yeah.
So you might want to tune in on Wednesday. Yes, definitely. True. Heck yeah. So you might want to tune in on Wednesday.
Yes.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Some things are going down this weekend.
Yep.
They are.
I'm a little nervous.
You're a little nervous?
I'm not.
Surprise, surprise.
I'm excited and nervous.
Okay.
It's going to be fun.
A new bruise.
A new bruise?
Oh, listen. I'm an easy bruiser.
Sometimes if you take a leave, I'm a real easy bruiser.
I'm never taking a leave again.
Don't do it.
Never again.
Don't do it.
It's not the pill of choice.
Not worth it.
No, it's not.
Especially when you take like nine a day.
Oh my gosh.
Oh man. Yeah, I was doing nine a day. Oh my gosh. Oh man.
Yeah.
I was doing nine a day.
That's wild.
Now I know why Natalie said that.
Now I know exactly why Natalie responded the way she did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
Really?
All right.
It's not,
it's not conducive to the body.
It's poison control.
Yeah, it should have called poison control.
Poison control.
Poison control call right there. You can eat anything deadly and it will not harm you. It might bruise you. It's poison control. Yeah, it should have called poison control. Poison control. Poison control call right there.
You can eat anything
deadly and it will
not harm you.
It might bruise you.
It might.
But it will not harm you.
Amen.
See you on Sunday.
Tune in if you
don't come here.
Otherwise, we're going
to see you on Wednesday
and it's going to be good.
Bye.
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