The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S03-E42 | 06-13-2025

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E42 | 06-13-2025 ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to the Hope Potline. Thank you for tuning in on this beautiful Friday afternoon. I'm so happy it's the weekend. It's almost here. I don't know what it is. I mean, it's not, it's not like my job is bad. It's not. It's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:00:39 But not like your job ends today. That's true, too. That's what most people are excited for. Yeah, that's true. I don the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church.
Starting point is 00:00:55 I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm gonna go to the church. I'm not feeling like I have to be somewhere. Rush, yeah, I know, there's something about that. There is, man. I agree. Because normally when I get up, I know that I'm going to be getting up and then after I do my Bible time,
Starting point is 00:01:16 I feel like I'm on the clock. I don't like that. Because I have to go to the gym or I have to do something, right? And then on Saturday, it's just me. I know. I don't know. There's something special about that.
Starting point is 00:01:30 There is something special about that. Oh, hey. What is that? I'm on TikTok live with you. Hot diggity. Trying at least. Pace. So it's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:01:41 I'm looking forward to the weekend. What about you girls? Got anything good to do? Well, it's Father's Day weekend. Oh, yeah, that's a beautiful thing. I'm looking forward to the weekend. What about you girls? Is there anything good to do? Well, it's Father's Day weekend. It is. Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Jeff is going away on a charter boat for 12 hours. On Saturday?
Starting point is 00:01:54 Oh my gosh. Tomorrow, with Tom. Oh my gosh. That's a really long time. They're gonna have a great time. I am not. You're not going. So I'm staying behind.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Why are you not going? The thought of being on a boat for 12 hours does not appeal to me. 12 hours is a really long time. Yeah, it's a really long time. No thank you. I plan on cleaning out my fridge and my pantry. Oh my gosh. Which actually excites me. That sounds appealing. Yeah. Like I'm ready for a reset. I've, a reset. I've let it go for too long. Oh, man. I need to clean out my refrigerator. Oh, I just did that. I'm not doing it, though.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I just did it. It was needed. I have a hot date with my refrigerator tomorrow. Yeah. I've done my pantry. Yeah, I did that, too. I have to do my pantry all. Oh my gosh. I've done my pantry. Yeah, I've done that too. I have to do my pantry all the time. Yeah, mine's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I should do my pantry all the time. I don't. I don't necessarily, like, Talia is a Nazi over expiration dates. Yes. I don't do, I don't, I don't, it's not, it's the cleaning and the wiping down. I'm not going to not see myself over expiration dates.
Starting point is 00:03:07 She feels like she'll die if she eats anything that's past the expiration date. Yes. Her mother's the same way. Mm-hmm. They will live and not die. What is that? It's like a mental block. You're not gonna get sick.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Rotten cheese? Yeah, I will. get sick. I eat that on purpose. Oh my gosh. Okay, so Tracy, do you eat things past the expiration date? Yeah, as long as it smells okay. Thank you. What about you? I mean, not, I won't like hot dogs and things like that. Meat, I'm gonna draw on the line on meat. That's a little tough, but if you, and if it's, I have a sniffer, so like, if it's a little sour, nope. Absolutely not. No, but literally if it could be a Keurig of coffee. Oh yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, no, no. I mean, I thought when her mother found out that she had a Keurig cup of coffee that was expired. I didn't know those expired. Oh, apparently did they do if you're a expiration date Nazi, you find that out. Oh my gosh. Where is that?
Starting point is 00:04:14 And like literally Tom pretty much is like. Itself? Oh my gosh. Yes, it's ridiculous. It is ridiculous the expiration date. Wow. Freakish thing that Talia is like, she expiration date. Wow. Freakish thing that Talia is like, she's petrified. Literally like a roach petrified.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I feel like that needs to be crucified. Uh-huh, exactly. Thank you. I'm sorry though, I don't wanna eat disgusting old food. I won't eat chips that are expired, not because I'm scared I'll get sick, but they taste horrible, number one. Not true.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Number two. Every single one I've had that was in there is disgusting. Okay, all right, but here's the thing. That's because they were in that room and they did get stale. That is true. But on the whole, on the whole, on the whole things that are expired like a bag of chips that are expired are not bad. On the whole. But she would not eat them. But she are not bad on the whole.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But she would not eat them, but she's not going to eat them. Who comes up with that date anyway. Thank you. Just like the six foot distancing. Thank you. Who came up with that? Probably.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I don't care. I'm sticking by it. It's there. I'm fine. And if I get a little diarrhea, YOLO. You know what I mean? Hey, it's ridiculous to be that scared of an expiration date.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Like, yeah, then OK, then you should eat it. Why? Because I can just go buy a fresh new one. If it's perfectly good food, why? There are starving kids in Africa. The reason you weren't going to do it is because you didn't wanna get sick. Okay, that's fear of being sick, which means. Call it out. Fear.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Call it out. Fear, that's the truth. Kelly Drennan also will throw it out the second it hits the expiration date. What a waste. What a waste, exactly. I'll take it. So many kids in Africa are starving.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So many kids, probably in America and like West Virginia. That's ridiculous. Just ridiculous. I'm not eating it. Okay, well, obviously if it smells, we're not eating it. I'm not eating it. I just want a bag of chips if it's expired, it tastes fine. But I don't like to eat food that's like not to like,
Starting point is 00:06:23 it's like premium taste. There's nothing wrong with expired food. It doesn't mean that it's not at its premium taste. Somebody made up that date, okay? That doesn't mean that that date is actual factual. Probably Joe Biden. That's what we've tried to tell her. That's fine if it tastes fine.
Starting point is 00:06:37 She doesn't even ever, you don't even give it a chance. Someone has never been poor at it shows. Oh. Definitely was. Oh my gosh. Good point. Super point. That apple does not fall far from the tree.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Ask her mother. Yeah, she said in the comments, she gets it from me. Okay, 100%. 100%. I mean, literally I had to talk her into having a Keurig. That's so funny. That was, it was past itsurig. That's so funny. That was, it was past its expiration date.
Starting point is 00:07:08 She's like, I don't know. And I'm like, please woman. She did drink it cause she was desperate. Did she grow an extra head? No, but she was not liking it. That's so funny. She's not liking it. That's so funny. She's not liking it. She's not, I mean, the coffee was fine.
Starting point is 00:07:28 She said the thing is she's honest. They're all honest, that's the thing. You know what, we all have our things. It was totally fine, but. Tracy, you won't repeat an outfit. Okay, you have to defend us. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Oh, here we go. Wait a minute. It's time. Hold up, wait a minute. We're not talking about that. Exactly. Wait a minute. Hold up, wait a minute. We're not talking about that. Exactly. Wait a minute. Vanessa only gets to bash us.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Let's back the track up. We don't get to bash her. Back the track up. What are you talking about? No, we're gonna move along. What's our first question guys? I know what the 10 is. I remember.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I remember now. I remember now. It's a tism. It is. But what are you talking about? You won't wear the same outfit twice. I don't love wearing the same outfit more than once. I've got to spread it out like really far,
Starting point is 00:08:11 but it's probably my parasites. I mean, they're probably like, don't do it. You'll look dumb. I don't know. I don't like wearing the same thing multiple times. Your closet must have a lot of clothes in it. No, I just cycle, they're just gone. Goodwill, don't tell Cindy.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Cindy does not want you to give anything to Goodwill. But yes, no, I just get rid of things a lot. But then you have to buy things. True. That's what I'm saying, oh, I see. True. So we all have our things. We all have our things.
Starting point is 00:08:43 We do. Mine is at least three. I'm not, I'm perfect. I'm not afraid of expirations. I don't have to count to 10. And I definitely wear the same outfits more than once. You are perfect. Man, if we could only be more like-
Starting point is 00:08:56 I got it going on. How does it feel like to be God's favorite? Yeah. Or does this be perfect? I don't know. I don't know. It's hard to be me. That's all I'm gonna say.
Starting point is 00:09:05 True. A lot of people would not want a duplicate of me though. Like who? It depends who you ask. Yeah. Ask how you're right now. She's twitching. Her eye just flickered a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So you're good. You're good. When you're bad, it's like not that bad. So that's what's great about it. What do you mean? It's like, if like- Go ahead, speak in. I wanna hear.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Not if you're bad, but like, I'm off, when I'm off. You know what I mean? Like if you're like, you got like, you know, a little like, having a rough day. When I get a toot. Or spicy.
Starting point is 00:09:41 When I'm spicy. But it's still not that bad, you know what I mean? Like most people like blow up. Yeah. Like you never blow up. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. When I'm spicy. But it's still not that bad. You know what I mean? Like most people like blow up. Yeah. You never blow up. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I try not to.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I used to. I try not to. I used to though. Okay. See? Yeah. Progress. That's growth. That is growth.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Well, fasting. Yes. But like at the meeting the other day, and our staff meeting, Tom was like, you were in a bad mood. I'm like, I was not in a bad mood. I was not in a bad mood at all. He's like, you sure were active?
Starting point is 00:10:11 I was like, no, I was in, my brain was in overload and I was in the zone. That's what we call it in my house, call it in the zone. Well, mainly, which he didn't understand, mainly it was because of my car not having oil in it. That freaked me out. Okay, that was annoying. I've had my car blow up because there's no oil in it.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Oh, okay. Yes, I ruined a complete vehicle because it ran out of oil. How does it run out if you go past the oil change date? Is that how it ran out of oil. How does it run out if you go past my oil change date, is that how it runs out? Well, you mean the mileage? Well, I called Nick and thank God. And he told me, well, by the time I went to the meeting,
Starting point is 00:10:59 I didn't know until after I think, or I had just found out, I don't know, but I was still like, and then I was dealing with attorney, but I was still like, and then I was dealing with attorney stuff that I was having to get to them before the meeting in between my oil. I was like this inside, I was like, my brain,
Starting point is 00:11:14 like, okay, did I mess something up or did I, because I did mess something up. I was like, did I fix that? Did I do that? I'm literally in my mind, and then I was trying to take notes. So I was in overload. And when I'm like that, I'm like, I can barely focus.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Right. That stuff's big though. That's stuff you have to hyper focus on. Not necessarily the oil thing. That's like- Oh no, that was probably more important to me than the attorney thing. I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I was- You just needed prayer for that. I blew up a whole car. A whole car engine had to be replaced in that car. It was, my dad had to do it too. Yeah, but that was like, that was a long time ago. I think cars are different now. Let's ask Nick when he comes.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Oh no, you can still blow it up. He just said to me, he's like, you're fine. It didn't overheat. But then I started thinking, well, I barely saw the oil light, come on. So did it overheat or did it not overheat? So every smell the car was making, I was like, does that mean something?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Do you wanna hear something? It sounds like I drove with the oil check light on for like almost a year. See, that's what I'm saying. I know. Wait a minute though. But you still are having oil put in your car, correct? No.
Starting point is 00:12:29 No, ma'am. No, she didn't. I know. Did you drive very much? I did. And it never overheated? It didn't. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's like a miracle. But she held her thoughts captive. Like literally, that's like a miracle. But she held her thoughts captive. Like literally, that's like a miraculous, like somebody who's on a tank of gas for a year. She was childlike faith hope. That's the difference between like if you didn't hold your thoughts captive. Me and you.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You let them run wild. Oh, listen. And like I went right over the Niagara Falls because my thoughts were off the chain. I literally was freaking out inside. Like I didn't know your car could like blow up. Right. Because I didn't have that information in my head.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Right, right, that's what I'm saying. Now that I know, I might be a little bit more. No, you won't. Well, you know, the thing is, is like right now, I was telling her right now, every, like we've had so much money going out between the garage and, I mean, there's just so many things I'm thinking, and then another car had a problem.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So literally I'm sitting there going, I need to, I just need to catch up. Yeah, yeah, I know, I get it. And now like, one more thing, cause like every time you think you're gonna, hmm. I know, I get it. And now like one more thing, cause like every time you think you're gonna... I know. So I was literally like, oh my gosh, I totally destroyed my car.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You didn't. But I didn't. No you didn't. But inside I was like thinking, along with trying to think, focus, I was like, I just barely can be in this meeting because my mind is not here. It's at Nick's shop.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah, along with other places, like all of the. I mean, you kind of just got it towed. Worst case scenario. I know a great towing company. Exactly. But always, I don't wanna have to get my car fixed. I know. I know that's the worst. That is the worst.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Then you don't have a car, the whole thing. So I was literally, like I wasn't freaking out, but my mind was consumed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. So, but normally I'm just, I don't know. I can be grouchy, but when I'm grouchy, it usually is like two seconds, maybe five minutes, ask my kids, ask Heather,
Starting point is 00:14:51 they get the brunt of my grouchiness more than anybody. They might feel differently. I don't think so. They said the same thing as Talia. Tracy's trying to make me feel better right now. No, it's true, you were there for it me feel better right now. No, it's true. You were there for it. You were present.
Starting point is 00:15:07 They did. It's just like, they're like, yeah, it's not that bad. I don't like it. They know how much you love them. So they're just like, nah. When I had one big thing. Yeah. When I had a blowout.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You're not like a grudge holder for people that you love. Like you know what I mean? For people that you love. I'm not a grudge holder period. I don't think you are either. Yeah, cause I can't afford that. Right, right. Nobody, listen, don't ever hold a grudge.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It's not worth it. I don't know what big blowup thing you've, oh Christmas, yeah Christmas. See how quickly she forgets? Right, cause you don't hold grudges. That was, listen, that, Christmas. Hmm. See how quickly she forgets? Right, because you don't hold grudges. That was, listen, that's probably the worst. That's the maddest I've been. Oh.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's exactly what Tom said. He was like in the, how many years of the marriage I've never seen her in. Oh, whoopsies. On Christmas day. No. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:16:00 It wasn't my fault though. It wasn't my fault. Okay. But on Christmas day, I don't think I've ever been that mad. Oh no. I can't've ever been that mad. Oh no. I can't recall ever being that mad. Yeah. But you know what? I'm big on family harmony.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, me too. I'm big on family harmony and I don't like when it's not. I think everybody should like, whatever you do, you're always like this when it comes to your family. Nobody should ever have, like there should never be dissension, strife. I mean, you can get mad at each other,
Starting point is 00:16:41 but you don't like, like make proclamations of, I'm done with this person. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like everybody should always stick together. You just know that in this moment, in this particular time, we're mad at each other, but in 30 minutes, we're getting over it.
Starting point is 00:17:03 That's what I tell people even about like our business. I say like at every opportunity, you should preserve everybody in 30 minutes, we're getting over it. That's what I tell people, even about our business. I say at every opportunity, you should preserve everybody in the company. Even if there's something that you dislike about them, you should still preserve them. That makes you a great leader. 100%. That makes you a great manager. As soon as you start trying to throw somebody under the bus, that's when it's like the loyalty's gone.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Right. And we're literally like a family. We work together. I see that you're sowing. It family, like we work together. So even more so. It is exactly. That you will reap yourself in the future. Right. And my thing is too, for the most part, for the most part, especially when it comes to family
Starting point is 00:17:40 or people that you consider to be like family, you can look at each other honestly. I make fun of Tommy all the time because there are certain parts of his life that are like a train wreck. We make fun of him about the car and stuff like that. He'll grow out of all of that stuff, but we always make fun of him because first of all,
Starting point is 00:18:07 he can take it. But second of all, we all make fun of each other too about all of our flaws and stuff like that. But at the end of the day, he's probably one of the best human beings I've ever met in my life. And he has a lot of things that he needs to grow in. But at the same time, if you look at him as a complete package, you just sit there and go, man, what a great person.
Starting point is 00:18:29 If you can't look at somebody honestly, like my family makes fun of me about all my negatives, and we all say it to each other's face, or we'll say it to each other or whatever, but at the end of the day, all of us have each other's backs or we, they are truths, but they're very lighthearted. It's not like, it's not personal. You always know when somebody has some, and you should always be able to look at somebody's negatives, but their positives always should
Starting point is 00:19:00 and most of the time they do far outweigh their negatives, their positives almost always. So you can laugh at the negatives and most of the time they do far outweigh their negatives, their positives almost always. So you can laugh at the negatives, but be inspired by the positives in that person and then like be able to gloat and promote all of the good things. And I think that a lot of times
Starting point is 00:19:20 we just tend to look at the negatives and never, but as families, like we should be able to make fun, but at the same time know that, man, this is a great person. And never like, I don't know where I'm going with that. But I just- Go too far.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Huh? Go too far. Yeah. You don't wanna go too far. You don't wanna go too far, but at the same time, I mean, I think I just, I think sometimes you get mad at people and our family members get mad at each other and they forget the positives.
Starting point is 00:19:53 They just keep focusing on the negatives. And then they let the negatives far outweigh the positives when really in truth, the positives far outweigh the negatives, you just, and that's how Satan gets an inroad and kind of like, that's why I'm like, I protect my family. I first and foremost protect my relationship with Tom. And I don't ever let anything ever get in that, never. Never let an inroad of anything.
Starting point is 00:20:21 You gotta, especially for your kids, you gotta protect that relationship. And because it's really the stability of the family. And then I protect my kids as far as their relationships. And then there are significant others because both of them are dating people. And you gotta navigate through all of that too. And, but everybody, everybody should be somebody that,
Starting point is 00:20:47 you know, like Tommy's dating Taya and thank God, I mean, I adore her. So it works out really great for me. But even in her expiration date craziness, like so many positive things, right? Like you, I don't know. You just gotta like watch all that stuff. So it's hard though, when your kids start dating.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I mean, it's hard. True story. Cause like, I mean, they're at my house. She's at my house all the time, but I feel bad for Courtney cause she never sees Talia. Courtney's a busy lady. That's true, Courtney's never home either,
Starting point is 00:21:29 but it's tough when your kids get older and then you don't see them and don't get to spend as much time with them anymore. So treasure the time when they're small, as much as you're like, God, can we go out on a date and get away from these kids? It's true. Treasure them.
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Starting point is 00:22:49 So thank you for joining us. And Hope has had some major progress in the last few days. She has not necessarily used Rage Bait, but that is an idea for the future. Oh my gosh, I do. I think that's a necessary evil. I think it is, especially when you're feeling spicy. I don't feel spicy that often, or do I?
Starting point is 00:23:14 No, no, no, I don't think you do, but if you are, like if you're reading one of the comments and you feel a little spicy, rage bait's always a good idea. Well, some people got a little spicy in the comment section on one, like I was like, whoa, back or down? Back or down, exactly, exactly. Hold up, Sista.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So yeah, we- Or really, it was guys. Was it mostly guys? Well, yeah, because it was about engagement rings. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yeah. And then, and here's the thing, in all fairness to guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and here's the thing, in all fairness to guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 In all fairness to guys, right now, like what the question was is about a guy who gave his girlfriend that he had been dating for five years, the engagement ring that he had purchased for his previous girlfriend. Oh, I remember that one. Yep, yep. And my thing was, is you're cheap, which you are,
Starting point is 00:24:05 and like, hello, why don't you buy something new for this person because the sentiment behind it. Now these guys thought I was trying to say that it's all about the money and like girls only care about what you drive and the job that you have, which listen, it's true. That's true. See, this is rage bait.
Starting point is 00:24:30 This is rage bait. They're right though. I wasn't, listen, and the other women that were commenting were basically saying, it's not about the ring size, which is what, it wasn't about the ring and how much he spent. It was the fact that he gave his ex fiance's ring to the new fiance.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's like, hello, let's be a little creative and think about this is not something, it's way different when you get your mother or your grandmother's ring and then you give it to your future. It's way different when you get your mother or your grandmother's ring, and then you give it to your future. Yes. It's like family. It's like, that's precious.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That's great sentiment. Yes. Okay. It's not cool when you give your ex-fiance's ring to your new fiance. Sorry, that was the problem, but they were thinking. Like, I got ex-k jewelers.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You know what I mean? Yeah Like, somebody had a great idea. Trade the ring in and buy a new one. Duh. But there was no thought brought into it. Like this guy was literally just like, I got this one in my back pocket. Let me give it to you. It's just all it was.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And it's like, not cool. And expect that throughout your whole marriage. That's what I said. Yes. Thank you. Right. Right. It's just all it was. And it's like, not cool. And expect that throughout your whole marriage. Right. That's what I said. Yes. Thank you, Vanessa. Come on, Vanessa. That's what I said.
Starting point is 00:25:52 That's what you can expect. I don't want seconds. No. Sorry. And it wasn't like for me, listen, I wanted, I should have said, but I didn't. Listen, I married somebody who had no car. He didn't make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He sure as heck didn't dress or look like he had any money. And my ring that I got was the tiniest little speck that he ever said, but I loved it. And I didn't care, you know why? Cause it's what he could afford and what he was, what was special to him for me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:28 You know, I don't care about that stuff, but do women nowadays feel like that? Yes. Yes, they do. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. The mentality of women today is not good
Starting point is 00:26:40 when they're picking men. Yeah. It's not good. And so those guys were right, but they weren't right about this, but they were right about women. And I will give them props for that because they were not being,
Starting point is 00:26:54 I mean, what they said was actually true. It's probably life experience, right? Like my son was telling me about, he was watching this, I don't know what it is. It was a podcast and they had women on there and they basically were being asked like, I don't know how, when I wish I had, I could ask him. But basically it was, what is your perfect guy?
Starting point is 00:27:21 And all of it was really about this, about the lifestyle that they would lead and live. And obviously looks were extremely important, but all of it was about, but after it got past the looks, which it was questionable which one was more important, finances or looks. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:48 I just don't get that part. Hey, can you turn that air condition down? I'm freezing. So cold. I got to chill. I want my mouth wants to chatter. I'm so cold. But that's the state of affairs with women today. And like, there's a lot of great guys out there
Starting point is 00:28:03 that can't get a date because they don't have the right job description or they don't have the right car. Which you don't want those girls anyway, but at the same time, how shallow. I know, it's true. It is very true. I think social media has a lot to do with that.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah. Yes, 100%. Keeping up with the Joneses. I mean, like you married Jeff and he made $90, 70 or 90? $70 a week. And didn't own a car, correct? No, we had Metro cards. You got a Metro card.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You're doing great. Remember those days, cause that's pretty much all I had too. And did Jer, Jer didn't have very much, right? Oh, I was the sugar mama for a while, because my grandma left me some money. So that's how we lived off of. I was making $200 a week.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I was making 250. Yeah, I was a sugar mama. I know. Yeah, so it just depends, but the roles are, the tide has changed. It has. Big time. So I do feel bad for guys because there's some really great guys out there
Starting point is 00:29:09 that don't have a lot of money and they would be quality for a girl but she won't even give them a chance because she doesn't make the right income, which is ridiculous. Because you never know, like for your instance. For both of us. Yeah, for both of you actually.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I'm thinking of her really, because I was just there. But really both of you guys. Literally. I had no idea. Both of you guys are living the bouge. And had you not like, giving them a chance. Right, yeah. You wouldn't have the life that you have, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:48 I know. So it's just, it's crazy. It really is. Cause you never know where life's gonna take somebody. You don't. Where they're at now, doesn't mean where they'll be in the future. So give everybody a shot.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Okay. Now that the rage bait is done, do you have anything else you wanna say? No, but if you wanna follow Hope, well, yes I do, just kidding. If you wanna follow Hope and possibly her new rage bait, it might be there, but she's answering questions that are true or false right now. So she tells a story, not questions,
Starting point is 00:30:21 she tells a story and you have to decide if it's true or false. And so then she'll come back into a part two and and you have to decide if it's true or false. And so then she'll come back into a part two and let you know. So if you wanna follow along, some of the stories are very interesting. So you definitely don't wanna miss it
Starting point is 00:30:33 if you're watching on TikTok. If you're on the Hope hotline, make sure you're following. Hey, it's Hope. Hi Norma, I love you. And so- There's some whoppers coming. There's some really good ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. And then you ask me questions, There's some good, there's some whoppers. There's some really good ones. Coming.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. And then you ask me questions, which nobody knows it's you, but now they do. Everyone knows it's Tracy. What? No way. Well, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:55 because people literally have said, is that Tracy? Or who is that? I know, probably people that know us, but there's a lot of people that don't, that watch these things. Yeah. So, yeah, so anyway, so that's, yeah. So if you wanna check us out over there,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Hey, It's Hope and the Hope Hotline, those are two options for TikTok. And Nick Hanson will be here at July 2nd. So you won't wanna miss that. We'll find out how rare is it for a car to blow up if you drive it for a year and never get the oil change or check the oil. I'm just telling you, Vanessa, that was miraculous.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It's like sandals not wearing out in the desert for 40 years when the Israelites were roaming around. You driving, I'm just telling you, from personal experience, how in the world did that? It's like a tank of gas lasting for a year. Yeah, or a license that is suspended and not getting pulled over for a year. Kind of Or a license that is suspended and not getting pulled over for a year. Kind of like that. Is that you? No, no. That's you? Oh my gosh. Why would you
Starting point is 00:31:56 assume it's me? Well, Vanessa, let's be honest. Yeah, I just found out. It's all resolved. Just now. I just found out. And it wasn't my fault. It wasn just found out. It's all resolved. Just now? Everything's resolved. I just found out. Oh my gosh. And it wasn't my fault. It wasn't her fault. It's my insurance company's fault.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Long story short, Oh my gosh. One of the cars thought it didn't have insurance on it. It did, but the state didn't know. So I, and I didn't know. That the state didn't know? That the state didn't know cause I knew it had insurance.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And then, but I checked. So Jared got a scam. Like when Pastor Tom called you, got the same scam. And he's like, hey, I think we didn't pay something, my insure or my whatever. And I was like, no, no, no, it's a scam. Like I'll check it. So I'm checking it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Something inside of me tells me to check mine. Sure enough. Sure enough. It was so bad. I couldn't even fix it online. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because once you get past a certain date, you can't. And I was way past, like a year or two days ago.
Starting point is 00:32:53 So I had to go in, and they told me, oh, just wait until the year mark, because then something gets waived. So I told Vanessa, and Vanessa's like, when you go in, it's going to be so easy. You're going to be met with favor. The person's already going to have known. Like, they've already done it. It's going to be so easy. And I gonna be met with favor. The person's already gonna have known, like they've already done it. It's gonna be so easy. And I went in and this lady had no idea.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But, and she was like, no, you need like a certificate. I'm like, no, no, no. I got everything I needed from the lady over there. And then sure enough, the girl sitting right next to her had just done one and it was done in two seconds. I only had to pay $6. To reinstate it. But I've been riding dirty for a very long time, and it was done in two seconds. I only had to pay $6. It ain't fair. To reinstate it.
Starting point is 00:33:26 But I've been riding dirty for a very long time, which proves I'm an excellent driver because I haven't been pulled over in a whole year. That is true. That's pretty good. That's very true. And I drive a lot and I see a lot of cops. I haven't been pulled over in a really long time.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Our angels, our guardian angels work full time. I know, they're very busy. Full time over here. Hope too, her oil, her tires. Oh my gosh, my tires. I went through, I don't know, like. So many. So many.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So many, and I keep getting nails and I have to keep getting plugs. I feel bad for Nick. Like I'm keeping the man's business alive. That's so funny, for real. I kid you not, last year, that black truck of Tom's probably was in the shop every month for about six months.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Oh my God. Same. And it was not cheap every single time. Same. Then Tommy fractured his face. Yes he did. I'm just telling you, like, Jesus take the wheel. Jesus take the wheel.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Jesus take the wheel. But you know what, nobody would even have known that thing, like all those things, because you don't sit here and like, let me tell you about my bad day, let me tell you about my bad day to everybody that you talk to, where a lot of other people, that's what they do.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Like every time you talk to them, how's things going? Well, actually I just, you know what I mean? And so nobody would even know when you were going through all that stuff. That's an uncommon- I have a laundry list. I could keep going.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Me too. But I shall not. Should we? Do you want to have a podcast? You know what? Here's the thing. You know why I don't? Well, there's a couple of reasons I don't.
Starting point is 00:35:03 One is it's always exciting to see how God's gonna take you from the place that you're in to take you out of it. Okay? It's always for me, like it's always, I always say, cause like Tom's like, oh, and I'm like, Tom's like, I don't know. And I'm like, no, no, no. God has always, always done it. So this is no different how and when I don't know. And I'm like, no, no, no. God has always, always done it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 So this is no different how and when I do not know, but it will, cause it always does. And I'm not worried about it. And I never do. So he doesn't worry about it cause he doesn't even know anyway. It doesn't really matter. There you go.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But like, when we were building that garage, like even with Bill, I was like, Bill, like, holy crap. Like, when we were building that garage, like even with Bill, I was like, Bill, like, holy crap, every time you turn around, it's, but even then I taught him, cause he'd be like, and I'm not worried about it. Somehow, some way, it'll work its way out. And it always does. You just can't focus on those things
Starting point is 00:36:01 cause there's no faith. The other reason I don't talk about it is there's no faith in the words that you speak if they speak negatively. So I don't say anything because I don't want to be opposite of what I'm standing on. Second of all, I know God always works it out. And there's one thing Kenneth Hagen always says, and I say this every single day and sometimes more than once, but Kenneth Hagen, when he was walking through things, we'll just talk about finances. When he was walking through finance, financial, everybody, everybody has ebbs and flows of where finances are there.
Starting point is 00:36:36 There's a lot, they're plentiful. And then there's where it's like you're pinching the penny and getting as much out of that sucker as you possibly can. Everybody, because the thing is, is it's like I was talking to Vanessa's husband, Jeff, you guys are building that building. Well, that's every time you turn around, somebody else, it's a cost. So so there are always times where you have lots and lots and then like us trying to fix this building. Okay, it's ebbs and flows and things like that. Where was I going with this? Oh, but what Kenneth Hagen said is he would say,
Starting point is 00:37:19 because he knew what it was like to have plenty and he knew what it was like to be in want and he knew what it was like to have, to he knew what it was like to be in want and he knew what it was like to have, to borrow and not have the money to pay back or what you borrowed and almost having it, you know, taken from you. And he said that he used to pray and he stopped praying over his finances,
Starting point is 00:37:42 which I don't pray over our finances really. I say this the same thing, and it has it's worked, it does work. He would say, the Lord told him to say, don't pray about money anymore, I want you to speak to the problem, speak to it, and he would say, Satan take your hand off my money. And he would say, ministering spirits, because we have angels that go and come for us. Ministering spirits cause the money to come.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And we release it out. And he said, every single time, he would see what he was needing come about and come in. And he's like, there's no explanation for it outside of, you're speaking things into existence, you're believing for it, faith is a substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. And you just, it's all about, now some people who aren't Christians would sit there and go, that's the power of positive thinking. some people who aren't Christians would sit there and go, that's the power of positive thinking.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Well, that is the Bible. I don't know what to tell you. But it's not a worldly philosophy. It is a biblical principle. As if we stole that from them. Right. You know what I mean, Laa? You just took that from us.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, that was ours. I pay my tithes. Yeah, back it up. I pay my tithes. Yeah, back it up. I pay my tithes and then I give my offerings. And because of that, the word is clear. Right. Every need will be met. It doesn't say that the need will be met exactly
Starting point is 00:39:16 in this specific time. It means that every need will be met in his timing and it will never fail. And it just doesn't. So I don't worry about those things. And people who don't pay your tithe, you should be worried. Because Malachi 3, 8 is very clear. You don't rob God.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And so like, that's just the way it is. But I also don't live on a budget because I'm not putting God in a box and saying, as long as I live in this little realm or in this little thing, if God tells me I can do it, then I do it. And then I know the money will come. Yeah, very true.
Starting point is 00:39:55 So that's, I don't live by fear or whatever. And that's the other thing. So do what he tells you to do, nothing more, nothing less. And just believe that if he told you to do. Nothing more, nothing less. And just believe that if he told you to do it, things will come about and work out the way it's supposed to. But with that being said, women do not date somebody based on their income. No. You'll hurt yourself for that. You'll miss maybe the best thing that ever came your way if you do.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Yeah, it's true. Very true. Okay. So women marry the person that God tells you to. God confirms. Yeah. Okay. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah. Because he knows you better than you know yourself. True. Because on paper, Jeff was a hot mess express. And yes, he was. If I would have allowed my own carnal mind to. And probably what people said to you too, right? I lost friendships.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I lost people that I love dearly. Right. Because of, you know, my decision to marry Jeff. To this day, to this very day. Cause I think now they're more embarrassed than anything. Right. You know what I mean? Of course.
Starting point is 00:41:03 To come back and be like, I was wrong. Yeah. It's fruit. But if I let my carnal nature take over what the Lord himself told me, I would have been, who knows? You would have missed out on the best thing that's probably ever happened to you. I might be on a corner on 42nd Street.
Starting point is 00:41:21 No, she'd be in some like other cult, like some feminist cult. Oh my gosh. She'd be like. With a shaved head. Yes. Oh my gosh, Vanessa, a feminist? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Never. She would go the total opposite way. She's sick of like those cult, like long dresses, no bra. I would be a Hare Krishna. Oh my gosh. Is that even around anymore? I don't know, but they would come into the subway with their tambourines. They were in the Pentagon. Oh my gosh. Is that even around anymore?
Starting point is 00:41:45 They would come into the subway with their tambourines. They were in the Pentagon. Oh my gosh. I used to, yeah. Oh yeah. Cause the Pentagon back in the day was open and my grandmother worked in there. So we would go down there and we'd go to the Pentagon and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:42:01 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, theourines, bald heads, singing their, oh my gosh. I don't know what they're singing, but they're always singing something. They were singing something. That's so good. It was something else.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I'd be like, what is, just keep walking. Have you ever seen a Hare Krishna? No, but I could have never. No, never. Never. Oh man, it's the best. Cause even when I lived in Massachusetts, we never went into Boston.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Like who goes into the city? Now I love it, but. Right, right, right. it's the best. No, cause even when I lived in Massachusetts, we never went into Boston. Like who goes into the city? Now I love it, but. Right, right, right. Back in the day. Yeah. Country bumpkins. That was pretty wild. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:32 What were you gonna say? I have a question. What would you logistically tell somebody to do that's a new believer if they feel like everything is against them and they don't know enough Bible yet and they wanna talk to somebody that knows more that could help them like a mentor how like what should they do like when do they decide if
Starting point is 00:42:50 they should go to that person and kind of like talk about the things because they just don't know enough yet versus not say anything at all like what would you suggest? Well everybody needs to be discipled. Right. Everybody. Mm-hmm. I think that they need to find the same sex person as themselves. Okay. And then get involved in some kind of, for example, if the person was coming to our church, I would highly suggest that they go to Schuyler and Janelle Schistler's Bible study on Wednesday nights. The essentials. The essentials, because it's going to teach you the foundational things that you need to know along with understanding
Starting point is 00:43:47 that the Bible is actually the true word of God. So it's gonna teach you two different things. It's gonna teach you like how to stick to your Christian walk because you know that you know that you know that Jesus is the savior and that you needed to be saved. Right. Okay. And that no matter what, if somebody was trying to pull you out of Christianity, you'd be so grounded because you know it is the truth. Like Like that the Dead Sea Scrolls actually prove that Jesus, the Bible, the stories, everything in it
Starting point is 00:44:31 is actually factual, the prophecies, they all, that so many have come to pass, that is actually not something that people can disprove. Okay, so you get grounded in knowing that you are actually following the true gospel, that there is no big, like, like everybody's thinking like, that there's a higher power. Okay, this is the higher power, there is no higher power, and you will know that no matter where you go, if you walk away from Christianity, you'll
Starting point is 00:45:05 understand and you'd have to lie to yourself in knowing that whatever, you know, cult that you went down, that it's actually a cult, that it's not the true Word of God, that it's not what's real. Then what their Bible study also teaches is like the foundational things like the four essentials which is so powerful and so important and Vanessa talks about it all the time because it will radically radically change your life like it did her which is the four essentials. Tell her, tell everybody Vanessa. Bible study, worship, fellowship, prayer. If you do those four things.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Every day. Every day. Every day. You will have a transformed life. Yeah. Period. Yes. Take the 30 day challenge.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Yes. If you get involved in that Bible study, it teaches you the four essentials. It teaches you how to get there. But I would not suggest that someone in that Bible study be the person that disciples you. Then what I would do is I would ask the Lord to, like when you're finding a mate, Lord, pick out my mate for me. You would ask the Lord, Lord,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I am needing and longing for someone to lead, guide, and direct me in my walk with you. Get me strong in you. And you'll be shocked, because what will happen is the Lord will cross your paths and you'll probably know instantaneously that's the person, but the odds are the Lord will also speak to them
Starting point is 00:46:55 and make sure that they know that you're their person. It happens all the time. It happens to me all the time. I have several people in my life that I have kind of taken under my wing or I discipled them. And pretty much every single time I have felt like this person I'm supposed to do that with, the Lord pretty much at both at the same time tells us.
Starting point is 00:47:21 That's good. So it's no great mystery and it's no like, ah, kind of thing. It's like, I knew it. Yeah, yeah, That's good. So it's no great mystery and it's no like, ah, kind of thing. It's like, I knew it. Yeah, yeah, that's good. And so that's what'll happen. But if you're a hot mess, you need to get yourself involved.
Starting point is 00:47:36 If you're a female, I strongly suggest you go to abide. You go, which is Tuesday mornings. If you work, I mean, you really should be at the church every time the doors are open, really, when you're newly saved, so that you really get saturated, saturated in the word, but also fellowshipping with like-minded believers,
Starting point is 00:48:02 because that's iron sharpens iron, and you're gonna like literally need to be around people who are stronger believers than you to help you stay on the straight and narrow. So not necessarily disciple you, but keep you where you're supposed to be. Women's Bible study is Monday night. Men's Bible study is Monday night.
Starting point is 00:48:23 You can't go wrong with either of those. So like I said, I'd be here every single time the door opens. And then if you're in your 20s, then there's Tuesday nights, which if you're, well, married couples do go, but it's not really, it's more meant for college and career. So if you're college and career, go to that. Then there's married couple ones.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I mean, there's pretty much something for everybody. There's a 50 plus-er, which is coming up, which is actually, it's funny that it's the message, cause I'm gonna be speaking for the 50 plus this month, this one coming up up and it's actually about this I just got done pretty much writing the message two days ago and that's basically what it's on love it so yeah we have YAG which is one thing we have 50 plus we have a once a month ladies hub group called virtuous we have
Starting point is 00:49:22 soul winning every Saturday we have a young adults committed. We have a Wednesday night essentials and a Wednesday night love and respect. We have a youth group for high school. And then we have a podcast that runs Monday through Friday, Pastor Tom's. And then we have this podcast. And then we have a men's hub
Starting point is 00:49:38 and a woman's hub on Monday night. We have Crave throughout the year, which is our night of worship. Dare to Be is coming up very soon. Yep. We have a girls' gun club, and we have a Sunday. Well, that's the other one. Obviously, we have Sunday service.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So there is so many opportunities to get plugged in. And like Vanessa always says, if you're newly saved, do the opposite. So if you were always going out to restaurants with your girlfriends and drinking was involved, don't do that anymore. Do this instead. So it's a good idea to do the opposite.
Starting point is 00:50:09 You're in opposite season right now. Yes. As a new believer. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I did when I got my life right with God. I literally made sure every single time that door was open and it was something that I could be a part of,
Starting point is 00:50:26 then I was. I even went to Bible studies that weren't in the church. You got to be careful about that. Right, vet them out. Yes, you got to be super careful about that because a lot of times Bible studies become gossip sessions and disgruntled. I'm mad at this person, they're mad at me, like a whole bunch of lies. That's the truth. A lot of these Bible studies where they're gossiping about people they're offended by and all this other stuff, a lot of times it's only one side of the story
Starting point is 00:50:56 and it's a whole bunch of lies. It's just the truth. I mean, more times than not, it's not actually how things are. Right. And a good leader won't even let that happen. So if it is happening. Then the leader is probably participating.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Exactly. Correct. And you need to stay away from that Bible study. Cause it's like sin city. Probably. Yep. And if you realize like you become the average of the people that you surround yourself with. So really take inventory on who you surround yourself with.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And yeah. You know what, going to gossip really quick, you know how, you know, when I, if I hear of people gossiping or whatever, I always am always like, okay, well who are they talking about? And then you find out who they're talking about. And then you find out if that person's talking.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And if that person's not talking and not the one sinning, they're probably the one that's right. True. It's true. The one that keeps their mouth closed, keeps their mouth closed, understands the true word of God and understand the ramifications of doing the very thing that the other people are doing. They keep their mouth shut. And those people usually are the ones that are on the right versus the ones that are running their mouths. I almost always, I'm always like, and it's always the same old people.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's always the same old people. It's always the same old people. Recognize that. Yeah. And if you're new, understand that people are people and people mess up. And don't let them influence you to think Christianity or Christians are hypocrites. Or God.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah, or God. Yeah, don't be mad at God for the way Christians act. Christians act. It's not God's Yeah. Don't be mad at God for the way Christians act. Christians act. It's not God's fault. And also understand like your mentor or the person that is discipling you, that person is not your Holy Spirit. So you have to kind of also know that you can also go into the throne room and inquire of the Lord yourself and then allow that person to kind of like help navigate you in that. because a lot of times when you kind of like cling to the person that
Starting point is 00:53:09 you're like that's discipling you and you rely on them solely on what to do and what decisions to make and right always always always if somebody wants to tell you something about how you should live or whatever about instruction on the way that you should go or if you are a hot mess and you're like, should I do this or shouldn't I do this? Unless it's like going to Burger King and they're gonna tell you like, it's okay for you to do this. Make them give you scripture that tells you that it's okay. Good idea. Because a lot of times people, they'll say, this isn't wrong. It's okay. But they can't back up anything that they, it's just how they feel or to their new mindset on things or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I don't know. Lots of people have lots of theologies and theories on things and a lot of them I've heard and I'm like, how in the world? That's not even biblical, okay? So always, even like if you go and listen to somebody preach, always, always, always go home,
Starting point is 00:54:24 take those scriptures, watch that sermon again or whatever about whatever you had questions about. Don't take everything for face value. Make sure you always look up scripture because people get it wrong. Make sure it's truly in the word. Right. Super important. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Don't let people lead you astray. Nah. And then you gotta fix all that nonsense. Not worth it. Not worth it. Not worth it at all. Okay, so we're only gonna do one question because it's five minutes.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Sorry about that. But I'm not really that sorry. No, it's good. It's necessary. It is what it is sometimes. I don't know how I got off on the first thing, but it's all right. This is a hot topic right now, so it's good.
Starting point is 00:55:06 No, my very first thing before you even did an announcement. Oh, okay. I don't even know how I got on to them, whatever. That's the whole pot line. It's Friday. And it's Friday. Try it. So this one is, I recently got engaged,
Starting point is 00:55:18 but my fiance and I are struggling to stay pure. We both repented, but it keeps happening. Are we setting ourselves up for failure in marriage? Should we delay the wedding or break up? Oh my God. Oh, hello. Potentially, yes, you are setting yourself up for failure in your marriage. And this is not me saying this. This is statistics saying it, believe it or not. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's not good. Crossing lines. I mean, it's a biblical principle, but it's funny how the biblical principle has ramifications that even the world will recognize. Yeah. Because you can't deny it. Right. So I'm going to read you the statistics. I'm going to read you what I found is the higher marital satisfaction is a study that was published by Journal of Family
Starting point is 00:56:11 Psychology and this was done in 2010. So it's probably gotten worse. Probably. Their study found that couples who waited until marriage to have sex reported higher relationship stability, better communication, and greater sexual quality later in the marriage. Goes to show you the theory of I gotta test drive the car before I take it out. Right. Is not, is not true. There you go. I don't know if I'll like it.
Starting point is 00:56:45 That's the craziest pile of poo I've ever heard now, but it's poo. You don't need to test drive the car. If this is your person, whatever. On average, they scored 20% higher on relationship satisfaction than those who began sexual activity early in their
Starting point is 00:57:05 relationship. Isn't that crazy? Can you imagine what the stats are today? Because this is old. Lower divorce rates. So they have lower divorce rates than people who actually had sex prior to marriage. Nicholas H. Wolfinger, a 2016 study said, women who had no sexual partners before marriage had the lowest risk of divorce. Isn't that crazy? Way to go, Vanessa. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:57:36 I feel completely seen right now. That's right, girl. Risk increased progressively with more partners before marriage. Like when I, I think I, I think if I stayed in here, it's, it's crazy. Like I think I pulled it out because it didn't really apply, but the number of people who had nine, what was it, five to ten. The statistics of divorce was like really, really high. Just nine, just from five to 10. Nowadays, like that's a low number for people
Starting point is 00:58:14 and their sexual partners. Oh my gosh, I couldn't even imagine. Wow. Lots of people have had way more than 10. It's true. I believe it. Crazy. Look at that one chick who like, oh, I know. Wait, which one?
Starting point is 00:58:30 You don't even have to say. The one for 24 hours, I think it was. Was it 24 hours? Did a hundred. I think she did more than a hundred. It was a thousand. Yes. No, I didn't hear that yeah, it's like gossip. It's all
Starting point is 00:58:49 Okay, I Didn't know that part. Yeah, that's disgusting. How was she? Hmm, then there's the then number three is delayed gratification equals long-term gains. So delayed gratification, waiting till you get married, equals long-term gains. So it says waiting to have sex associated with, is associated with better conflict resolution skills. Why? Because you had to talk. Like me and Tom, all we did was talk for three years.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Right. True. So our communication skills were off the charts. Cause that's all we did. People literally, he would come and see me while he was on duty, cause I was in his zone. And we would sit there and talk until he had a call or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:39 And literally people would be like, what are you guys doing? We're just talking. They're like, for this long? Yeah, that's it. Stronger emotional bonds built without sexual distraction. So you have a strong emotional bond towards one another. It's true though.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Speaking from experience, Vanessa, Tracy, yeah. Like just saying it's true. It's completely true. Take it from three people who would know. Shared values and long-term commitment mindset. So that's the last thing that you'll gain from it. Shared values and long-term commitment mindset. And I think that that's 100% accurate.
Starting point is 01:00:28 If you wanna stay pure, if you, okay, you can give some suggestions to ladies, but if you wanna stay pure and never like have an accident again, like make a mistake again. No, never be alone. Yeah. Oh, 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Always be with friends and family. Right. No matter what, if you can't keep your hands off each other, never be alone. But I would not say to cancel the wedding. I would not say cancel the wedding. And I would not say break up. I wouldn't either. Yeah. It's one thing if you were living together and you conceded and you
Starting point is 01:01:09 decided to get married I would say you guys need to like find out if you're each other's person first. Pray about it and see if God's telling you that you're each other's person. Yeah. Yeah. Take a break that way. Not necessarily break up though. Take a break and figure it out. But in this case, you've been trying to stay pure. You've had accidents. And so the heart's in the right place from the beginning. So I would just say, don't break up, just never be alone.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And you should be fine. And if the Lord does give you the green light, go to the courthouse, get married. But then make sure that everybody knows that if you're, make sure everybody knows that you actually got married so that they're not thinking that you're sinning. Right, right. Because you're not supposed to look.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Posted on social media. Yeah. You're not supposed to like be- Facebook official. You're supposed to abstain from all appearance of evil. Of evil, yeah. So if you do that, cause you might make somebody else-
Starting point is 01:02:15 Summon, yeah, totally. That's it people. It's good. Minutes 40. Change your status on all your social media accounts as married. Facebook official. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So lots of people do it. I've known lots of people who go get married and then have a waiting afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's pretty normal now. Yeah. I don't think it's that big of a deal. I know people, there's plenty of people
Starting point is 01:02:40 who take issue with it. Oh my gosh. But for me, I'm like, if you wanna do that and then have it be so everybody can see it, I mean, because you don't wanna let everybody, like kudos to you for spending the money for everybody to actually be able to watch something
Starting point is 01:03:00 and make it special and then celebrate you getting married. If you're willing to spend that money. Go right ahead. Go right ahead, exactly. And then all of us get to celebrate with you. But if you just wanna run off and get married and not do all of that and just be personal between the two of you, do that too.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It's your life. True. I mean, for me, I would hate to miss my kids getting married, but at the end of the day, it's not the end of the world. Right. It's not the end of the world. They're gonna like be my family forever. What is that? And at the end of the day, it's not about me. Exactly. It's what do they want? What is special between them? If they want it private and it'd be super special between just the two of them, so be it. So be it. It's not like they're gonna be removed from your life forever.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's one moment in time. It's like, come on. People make big deals out of nothing. True. It's a moment in time. All right, that's it. I'm done. I'm ready to start my weekend. Well, actually I'm not gonna start my weekend
Starting point is 01:04:07 cause I'm gonna still work. But. And it's father's day weekend. It's father's day weekend. Make your man feel special this weekend. As we like to say in the Lightly House, give lots of rubbies. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Give lots of rubbies. A lot of snacks. A lot of snacks. Maybe sit with him and watch a Hallmark movie. I have a good one I can recommend. Is it husband day or father's day? So my kids need to go and sit with their father. Yes. And watch a movie. And you don't have to. That's hideous with him. Right. And you don't have to.'s hideous with him right and you don't have to he's not your father Norm will be happy to do so don't call anybody father Norm will be a Jagger will be right there with him I think Jagger even likes Hallmark movies really do you tell you oh dear god I'm in big trouble you are big especially Christmas time Tommy and me are gonna be by ourselves, hanging out, both of us will be taking a nap. While Yay Hoos are out there watching Hallmark with him.
Starting point is 01:05:10 You probably won't even know that. It's funny. So that means Vanessa won't be watching Hallmark. No, I'll be watching an Alaska show. That's nice. That's what I like. Yeah, port protection. I think me and Jeff should have gotten married.
Starting point is 01:05:26 And you and Tom should have gotten married. I'm not kidding you. No, opposites attract. It's true. I don't know. Listen, me and Jeff probably could have taken over the world. Literally. No, I believe that. I literally believe that.
Starting point is 01:05:38 You might have killed each other along the way. You would own this whole area. I don't think we would have killed each other because both of us are like, whatever, personalities. They would have separate bedrooms though. You might have separate bedrooms. Nah, probably not. Come together.
Starting point is 01:05:51 No, probably not. I can't be away from my man. Oh my gosh. Not gonna happen. I feel you. I feel you. I feel you. Nope.
Starting point is 01:06:02 But yeah, so. That's funny. No, you would definitely own this whole strip. We should do Wife Swap. Remember that show? I loved that show. And just see what happens after a week. It's pure Talia. There's nothing inappropriate. There's no swinging going on whatsoever. I just like an Italian. I can film it and it could be a reality show. I will be switching. Oh my gosh. Like, oh my gosh. Whoever ended up with Tom. Vanessa. I would cry. I would out. Bye. That's true.
Starting point is 01:06:45 She's like uber eating, uber door dashing them. She's like, I'm done. Listen, I'm not going again for you, but I'll definitely door dash it. Tapping out. Let's go. That was it. You met your quota.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He's gotta have a Slurpees. That's, that is not an option. Listen, it will be a fun show. That's as essential as the four essentials. That's true. It's his fifth essential. 100%. So, all right, ladies, I love you.
Starting point is 01:07:14 We love you guys too. We will see you on Sunday if you attend Foundation Church. Otherwise, we will see you next Wednesday. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk.

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