The Hope Hotline - The Hope Hotline | S03-E57 | 08-27-2025

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E57 | 08-27-2025

real talk real talk we're talking we missed you on Friday but it was worth missing because we had such a great conference we did it was so good excuse me I'm burping and yes it was it was it was fantastic it was so good um so we are going to talk about it so if you don't want to talk about it

you know what did you create something so maybe for the people who aren't here weren't there to experience it before we start talking about it maybe if you play something yeah I have our three recap videos together technically four because we have the breakfast too so i'll play that and then if you want to stop and talk just let me know beauty baby okay here we go let's do it here we go black screen okay black screen here we go hold on pause it was being silly wait for it okay here we go here we go here you go yes tell you was my helper girl this is Thursday night first session look how good you look you and Adelis wore the same dress in different colors.

And we didn't get a photo. You should have. There's our girl. There's our girl. Looking great in white pants. Those girls look great in. I know. I love that shirt.

I did too. The colors were perfect. Except for I look fatter in these pants than what I actually am. I will say that. Even though, like, that pooch did not look that big. No. I mean, it was poochy, but it was not. Not that big of peach.

Oh, my gosh. Okay, so that was Thursday night, and then Friday, and that's clearly. Friday, I am. I didn't get one of them. I have one in the refrigerator right now. It's the chocolate, if you want it. You can have it. It's so good.

It looks delicious. They look so good. They look great in pink pants. Yep. Such a pretty girl. she had a great message she did and she covered up her pooch I don't think she has all black stop it you make her pooch I didn't obviously care too much about it I wore that outfit and I could have covered it up and I said no I'm not doing it exactly on the prizes yes yes

oh there's Emma she was so happy and then of course she gets a prize and she gave it away Kiss it away. That's what it's all about. I know. So sweet. So then Friday evening service was next. This week, I mean, those three days went by so fast. So fast.

It was like over. Unless you were having to fix the chili. Oh, it was so good. I did not. Can we? Yeah, can we? Let's go back. They had some on Sunday morning.

There's Vanessa. Look at a girl. I love that. Oh, she looks great. Oh, she looks great. She's so good. Dollis, killed it. I just, I don't know.

Oh, hey girl. I thought he's the only one. No, her one was fantastic. You can't meet me too much one. Well, not the big camera, but. Yeah, her butt. Great. Although I will say, and I know this is me, and I'm talking about me, but that picture that

Jare took of me, my butt looked good in that picture. Oh, the brown or the jeans. Yes. I was like, hello to myself. Yeah, you're like, I'm like, hello. Yes. That's our cover photo. I'm like, Jare.

Why can't you take those pictures more often? It's all about the angles. It is all. painful breakfast was delicious that uh oh my gosh it was good was good was it the sausage gravy i wanted that purse so bad it was so good i mean literally if i could have hijacked or carjacked that person who had was one of our own people yeah i was i probably could have i wanted that purse taking her out in that one take her out two seconds she deserves it though that woman does so much around here and she went up and gave you a hug oh my gosh no that was

the louis girl oh the Gucci girl is I wanted the Gucci the Gucci was stunning it was I was very impressed I love that I love that I love that Gucci oh my gosh yes it's perfect it is all year round all year without having to be black and then the two straps you can go sporty you can go dress up it's actually perfection well done all and one well done you don't get that in a purse very often no no like you could wear that purse year round seriously it was so nice oh my gosh but she deserves it she does a lot for this joint so this place it's always happy she won but so many great um so many great things coming from that conference and so many great uh testimonies and things like that or the the voice of the

Holy Spirit came clear, loud and clear, to so many people. And that's not including the healings or just the things that people felt like the Lord freedom from. But like, I'm talking about things where people heard the Lord say, it's time to rise to the occasion and step out into a specific calling or direction or I'm preparing you for this. I mean, for me, that is as important as stepping away from fear, you know, like stepping into your calling because when you walk away from things that worry and fear and anxiety

and depression and just so, like sickness, illness, disease, things, so many things that people deal with um that's great now but when you say lord i've heard your call i will answer that call like that's more than just you like when you walk when you're free from fear that affects you but when you say lord i'll answer your call that affects many true and so for me that's just as important as the other yeah i mean i think people need to be free from all that of the stuff, but... Step one. But, I mean, man, it's way more powerful to say...

It is. Whatever you tell me to do, I'm going to do. That's why I want people to be free. Because once you are free, then that's the next thing. And it's so much more fun than constantly working on your problems. Yeah, your stuff. Like, you have to. Like, first things first.

But eventually, like, when you can see other people be free because of the encouragement you gave them or the hard word you had to give them. But a lot of times... So good. Getting out of... whatever you're dealing with like if you are dealing with being an anxious person or if you are dealing with um being a person that likes to be isolated you're an introvert a lot of times the best things that you can do for any and all situations is to step outside of yourself and start doing

things. For example, like, if you are an anxious person, then what you need to do maybe is start blessing other people by simply like, even like, I'll give an example of this, but if someone needs help moving or like for the conference when we needed help decorating, then you go and you do those things because what that does is it makes you no longer look and focus on you. It means that you're about somebody else. The best thing you can do, if you're an anxious person or a fearful person is to stop thinking about you. True. So true. You're only exasperating the situation the more you isolate yourself to your thoughts. I mean, Jonathan says it's so great, but the mind is a terrible master. And it really is. It really is. And once you realize

that, that it's mastering you, not helping you, you might want to run away from it. I agree. I agree. It's a beautiful thing. But what have you guys heard? So much. I know. Like so much. Well, just, I can say Melissa Wolfgang came up to us right at the end. So happy to see her. And I know. And she just was like, I have a sore throat and my neck's bothering me. It was during our breakout session. Yeah. At the very end. And she just came up to us. And she's like, I just don't want to deal with it, which I love. Because that, like, if you're just like, oh, it's fine. It's just a sore throat. It's just my neck. Then it's the next thing. And then it's the next thing. So when you take care of it right. away. And she's like, I don't want to miss work because of a sickness. I want to miss work because I want to go do. Yeah. So we prayed for her. We believed. She prayed over herself. She prayed over herself. Yeah, you're right. You're right. She prayed over herself. And we stood in agreement with her the

very next day. Yeah. We get a text. We get a text from her. She's like, it's done. It's done. Totally healed. Yeah. Completely healed. Like, and that was just like one of the fun ones that was like we got to see like instant, almost instantly. Right. Exactly. But I just had a lot of people come up to me and just say they, like, they were really proud of me because I made it very clear that that was what I did was outside my comfort zone. I love, like, this is easy, like chit-chatting with my friends. And even though it's online and God knows how many people end up watching it, it's just, it's different when you're speaking at people versus having conversation, you know, because you'll look at people and sometimes they look like they're like, and you're like, are you

like, are you okay? Is everybody okay out there? So I feel for Pastor Tom, because when he has that, like, yeah, but here's the thing. Like, there are certain people, like, um, for those that, are watching that don't know like before we and I love this I'm going to do this again next year but before anybody came up and spoke before we even worshipped Tracy the night that I spoke um Heather the night that mag spoke and then Vanessa the night Adala spoke they came up and they spoke now the thing is is I know that the Lord's called each of you guys to do those things but each of you are called to it in a different way like you and Vanessa are called in a very much different way than Heather is.

Heather will never, Heather will speak, but Heather, in my opinion, and the Lord will tell her, but what I feel like the Lord's told me for Heather is, Heather's speaking is not preaching, whereas I think, like, I'm teaching slash entering into preaching. She'll probably always be a teacher, but to a group of people, yours will be different.

And God, her approach still has to be the same as yours, but at some point it'll go like this. Yeah. There'll be a directional, you know. So. And we need both. You have to have both. Right.

It has to be. She probably will never do it to the degree that you guys do it, but is a necessary evil in what she has to say, for the people that she has to say it will be as important as you guys but it's all training ground and you have to be provided that training ground and you guys the way you are wanting to go after it

is going to be a different way than she wants to go after it but she's an administrator you guys are not administrators and there is another there is another separate reason why your directions will be very different if that makes sense absolutely does so um but the but it was interesting how all of you guys preached or taught very similarly but very differently yeah yeah it's just it's really awesome to watch people blossom and

god and you guys are going to just get better and better and better and better as you do it so like me i'm like totally night and day i was terrible i'm still not the greatest but i'm far better than what I was when I first started. Dear, Lord's of mercy. Don't come at me like that. Hot mess. I wish I would have been as good as you guys were my first time. Adala said the same thing.

My first thought after sitting down, I was like, oh, I didn't die. I know, right? I didn't pass away. You didn't pass out. Or pass out, yeah. Because you were an anxious person. No, and that's what people don't realize. But it's so, it was such confirmation for me because I stood there and my heart was

steady yeah you know my my voice wasn't quivering like i was and it was just like it was confirmation for me like i am not an anxious person anymore i have been set free by the power of jesus christ yeah and his word it has it was i have only one one thing to um to for i don't even know what i'm trying to say but like god's word has been the only thing that has that has taken me out of that anxiousness because nothing else has done the work the way the word of god has right so yeah yeah only he can do it yeah and that's not to say for people who are watching like should it be that you're never anxious again 100% but even with that being said I could drive-bys all the time and when the drive-by is come, it comes for a second, and then I take it captive. I make it obedient to

what? God's word. Yeah. Hello. Yep. Yeah, I totally agree. Go ahead. What were you going to say, Tracy? Well, I was just going to say, like, when I played basketball. Like, I still had that, like, nervousness going out onto the court, like, when they're playing the national anthem. But I knew I was going to do great. I just, it's this like, it's this like adrenaline, you know? And you just have to know how to manage it. It can't overtake you when you are put into positions where it's like something's on the line. And so I felt the same. same way for this. Like I definitely felt the weight of it, but I knew that I had something to say and I wanted these women to hear what I had to say. And so I just kind of stayed focus on that

more than what if I mess up? Or I was like, I can't imagine I'm going to get up there and go blank, but just in case. But even if you had gone blank, the thing is, and this is the greatest thing from doing now, I haven't even done it 10 times. Have I done it five times? Six times. dare to be and between dare to be and our 50 plus club and then the three times I've done the okay so maybe maybe 10 times maybe maybe yeah but now I've learned like even if which makes me not but even if I like got lost or couldn't think of something um nobody's going to care I know nobody's going to care and it and the thing is is I'm so stupid I say as far as like I'll say whatever comes to my head that I'll make light of it right so which takes

all of the you know like tunchness tension out of the room yes because it's just like oopsie daisy where am I at okay whatever yeah whereas before I'd be like what am I saying right now I don't know I don't know what I'm doing I know I know it's so true and then when you only have like 10 15 minutes too like I didn't want to like miss something that I knew was going to lead me to the next thing and then go to the next thing and be like, oh, no, let me go back. You know what's so cool, though? Like, there were things that I did not touch on. Yeah, me too.

On Friday when I spoke. But I got to touch on it during our breakout session. True. So the Lord gave me another opportunity. That's awesome. And if you hadn't had it. Yeah. Which the breakout session was incredible.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. I wish we had more time, but like, the limited time that we did have, like, it was such a powerful time. It was so good. I've heard lots of good stuff about that. Do you want to tell them like what we did if they weren't here? You can tell. Okay. So on Saturday we did worship and that was like, it was hard to like know it was our last day. Yeah. During worship. Yeah. Because our worship was so good. Holy moly. I know. It was so good. And the atmosphere like we had, I don't know, 400 and how many people like it. I don't know. Okay. But it felt like it felt like a full house.

it felt like the whole entire place like that atmosphere and I have people could have heard them singing from the front row which you did because you were taking pictures I literally thought to myself if people could hear what I'm hearing right now Norma you had your in ears in my daughter who is up there they she just said they were way louder than us wasn't that like crazy how the last day was yeah it was different even Sunday Sunday was the loudest I've ever heard people sing. The band, Norma said she wishes you could see it. You can't hear her. Because it was more than just them singing, she said. Praise God. It was incredible. It was. Way different atmosphere. I agree with you, Norma.

I do too. It was so loud. And I was in the back in the sound booth. So I was like, what the heck? I have never heard the congregation sing that loud. They messed up the band. They messed up the band. They were so loud. I know. I'm sorry. That's a good problem to have. They'll take it every time. I know Aaron will. I know. We don't have the click in our ear.

We don't. Okay. And some of us, you know, we're working. Oh my gosh. Can't hear the click. Can't hear the click. Can't hear the click. It's so powerful though.

So, yeah. So on Saturday, we did our worship and then we went right to Hope speaking. And you did such a great job. Like just that transition. On Saturday? Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, you did. Like, even just, like, just thanking everybody, but I don't know.

It was really good hope. It really was. And then explaining what we were doing and everything like that. So basically, we all broke out in generations. So we had the younger generation go with Norma and Bailey, and they went off together. And I've, my daughter's in that group, and she loved it. She, like, she's saying your praises. I know.

How can, first of all, how can you not love Norma? True. But then, Bay. I mean, you know. you know like that's taking it to another level not that norma's not that level i'm just saying like to have them together she's just like oh she's so oh i know well she's got a little bit more age on her first of all so she has a little bit more expertise in motherhood and she's married giving them guidance in something that norma doesn't have just yet right so that takes it to a whole

another like so good though yes yes yeah yeah and then we took the the underrated um underdogs we took the underdogs the millennials and it's a rough one it was it was amazing there they're millennials i'm just joking not really the greatest generation greatest generation you're the most talked about negatively out of all of them you know that right that's an underdog i don't know I talk more about boomers. They didn't talk about Jesus very nicely either. They don't suck us out of social security. True.

They didn't talk about Jesus very nicely either. Millennials or the boomers? No. Did she get what I'm trying to say? No, I don't think she got it. What are you talking about? She doesn't get it. I said they never talked about Jesus very nicely either.

So I'm comparing millennials to Jesus. Yes, thank you for explaining. That doesn't make sense. Yeah, but Jesus actually didn't act entitled. I don't know if we've, I don't act entitled. That is one of the biggest things that is said about millennials is the entitlement mentality. You know what?

And people, and like, and people who hire millennials, what is that? Say to the mic. You got it somewhere, though. And you raised the, I didn't know. I didn't raise a millennial. Not you. You're a lot of generation. Somebody did.

Okay. Somebody raised us. How can that be? It would be, it would be. Yeah, they entitled us. They made us entitled. No, Jen Exters did not have millennials. Well, somebody did.

Yes. Yes, they did. What's my mom? Mom, it's your fault. Your mom is, what do you? Mom, what are you? Born in. 50.

That is, that is a boomer, sweetie. That's what we're saying. Okay. Not a Jen Exeter. I'm not a boomer. She's just saying, somebody, the room is quiet. Somebody raised us. I know, baby boomers.

Baby boomers jacked you up. Not Gen Xers. Yes. Right. She's saying somebody raised us to be entitled. Yeah, baby boomers. Right. I do believe that.

Okay. Thank you. That's what we're saying. We're all on the same page now. But I'm just saying that doesn't take away that you don't have to be like that. I'm not. I'm not either. No, I'm just saying millennials in general.

Just because somebody raised you like that doesn't. What is that? I'm an elder millennial. We're right on the car. That's the reason why you don't act like one. Thank you. Yeah. Okay.

All right. So we have millennials. So we had the millennials. And it was amazing. It was really great. Can you tell I'm bitter? Oh, that's all good.

It's not right. I thought we were friends. Our generation saw the most tragedy. We did. Our generation saw the most tragedy. We went through 9-11. I went through, I went through Vietnam more.

Yeah, but you didn't know anything about it. I did. I knew exactly what's going on. I'm just joking. I didn't have a TV for a really long. I didn't have a TV for a really long time. That is accurate. Okay.

Okay. Okay. But I didn't know. I didn't. I remember. But there were TVs. There were TVs. I remember Vietnam War. I was scared. Really? Yes. I was scared. Yeah. What were they saying? Like what made it scary is like that people were dying because it was and then people hated the people that fought in the war. I mean, it was ridiculous. It was like really not good. Like there was a lot back in the day. Like if I grew up, in like if I was a very young person growing up and seeing like black lives matter going and destroying and it's not even like black lives matter is actually a lot of white entitled kids absolutely this is not like black lives matter and it's a racist thing it's like if I went and saw all of the back in the day with people like when they would um it's not what did they would, what is that called when they, I can't remember what it's, protest. Thank you, Norma. I was thinking

rioting. It's not writing. Back in the day, protesting was different. It was very, very, people were respectful. Even when they protested, they would say mean things, but they didn't do harmful mean things. And now it's, if you are growing up, like, I would say more like Vanessa's kids age, right? That's even scarier than anything we've experienced, because, You see, like, see it all. Yeah, you see it all. There's nothing, like, that you don't see. And that, like, you see all these riots. You see things going up in flames. You see, like, whole cities obliterated by fire. Like, for me, like, that's, that would make anybody anxious if they were young and they didn't have God. Whereas us, I feel like, yeah, we saw those things, but even, like,

you guys didn't have phones right so like the news wasn't always present it did take a break i think that's the reason why we have such anxiousness in that younger gen z and things like that because the news is always present it's the amount of information that comes in at once right and like you guys had desert storm and things like that but no lives are really like that was i mean except for like there i take it back you guys but you guys didn't really even grow up in that specifically you saw it but you were older but you're in the millennial age range they there were some younger that did see like 9-11 and things like that is tragic you're right that that is really rough to experience and to see and then the wars that followed suit right and all of our friends went to

the war yeah because we i was a junior in high school so like i like my boyfriend at the time went over my brother went over yeah so like all like all the people close to us were yeah that i was literally on the other side of the bridge when 9-11 happened. Yeah, I mean, you're right. There is some really, like, insane stuff. And then the 2008 housing crisis and all of people losing their homes, not knowing where they're going to go. Yeah.

Yeah. That is true. That's a lot for millennials. I do to a certain extent, but you still are entitled. Yay. You're still entitled. Okay. But that's some rough stuff.

That is, you're absolutely right. That's some rough stuff. But Gen Z, I feel. You are. We're overcomers. We are. Overcomers. And we crave community.

We want genuine community. We don't just want to like show up. And that's why people are leaving these arch churches because they're like they're there for either they go the opposite way and go into sin or they and drinking and all that kind of stuff looking to like fill that void or they find these ones. I'm wondering. I'm wondering when the ark church is going to change their message. I was just thinking about this before the podcast when I was at home.

I've been wondering that as well. I'm wondering when that everything that they're doing, because it's all about the money for them. It's all about selling product, right? I shouldn't say that because that's not a fair and that's judging. So I genuinely take that back because I don't know the hearts behind everybody. But that denomination has been so weak and so, compromising that I'm wondering when they'll change their approach I don't think it's

approach they're there it's like I want to say it and it sounds so bad but curriculum I mean when are they going to change the curriculum their sermon it's I think it's a sermon calendar that they they use so it would have to be next year because they're seeing a change in the tide of what people are really like what's your like what do you think they're going to change too. Like what do you see them adding or taking away? I think that they're going to see a shift and what people wanting to hear the truth

and people are literally going to no longer want to skip. I think especially with Gen Z. Anthony Philip Mitchell. Oh, yes. Getting so much popularity and people are responding to him in a very positive way. I do believe, you're right,

that the Arch Church might tend to, even if it's fake. Take a shift. I think they might take a shift. They're going to have to because they're going to start losing people and that cannot happen. But how are you going to make that shift without seeming like hypocritical? Because it's diametrically opposite of what you've been preaching. It is a Tom likely message.

It is. And they have hated the Tom likely message. In fact, they have in so much tried to besmirch it, you know, and be everything opposite of it and make it sound like we're so wrong, they're so wrong. Right. How do you get away with that? I don't know. But it's going to be tough because you're going to sound like the biggest, like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. A slow approach. Like bringing it in. I think they're going to do it, though. I think they're going to do it.

It makes sense. Like Norma was saying, following the trends. Yep. Oh, gosh, that sounds so bad. But it is true. That's a great way to phrase it. I will not be surprised, but you're right. Like, they do. They do. They put out their curriculum. Sermon calendar. Sermon calendar a year in advance. They do.

So they will have to start that baby up if they haven't already now to offer it in 27. I think it's soon after the holidays is when they like get together and like plan for the next year. So they'll probably in 2026 plan for 2027. Yeah. Which will probably take a stronger approach on the gospel. good luck with that wait doesn't paul talk about that wait i'm gonna i'm gonna look okay like he shifts he

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So she, one of her thing almost has 100,000 views. That's right. That's wild. And she is just, look at that. She's almost at 1,200. Although they tried to stop me yesterday, and they were successful. I know. We had a little issue.

with music so we are hoping she's playing name that tune and one of the songs was like copyrights but i'm hoping that it's i don't know if it was copied you did that is that what that thing was saying that one of the songs was copyrighted so it wasn't everything no it was one of the songs oh my gosh thank you jesus but if you replace the sound it replaced it puts the whole song over the whole and we went back and forth they muted me and she got completely muted and then i deleted it unbeknownst to me yeah and and usually you can change it it's not a big deal but this one didn't have a song with it so it was complicated so we're hoping it's just a glitch um so we shall see i'm gonna win gen x are still award she is i'm building my yeah building my platform yes she

and then i'm coming at them and she's coming at them the neglected generation that's right i know we were neglected but we but we could handle it neglect true we learned to we learned to do everything on our own yes they were not entitled we are not definitely not entitled i agree listen but that's why they're raised entitled kids when you're babysitting neighbors kids at 10 lock lock i did that kid what is it latchkey kid latch key kid don't mess with us we're not to be messed with we're a whole different kind of people yeah we love them they're our favorite as so many others They're my favorite.

I love them very, very much. Don't come at me. All right. I haven't updated our ID there. Do you have a lot going on over there? No, okay. I don't have a new TikTok coming. Tracy, you have way more than 1,200.

I know. I haven't updated mine. I was worried about you and Pastor Tom. I'm going to give a quick update on what mine is. I'm at 1269. Woo, whoa. What are you at? We need to keep climbing.

What are you at, Vanessa? Oh, I don't know, like 219. I know. I'm sorry. Just don't post. I need to get better. I post. Please post. Your helps. I have a little thing that I'm doing now because I just need sometimes I'm like, what do I want to talk about? So I have this little book and it just like breaks down. It's almost like the one that you had, but it's a little book and it breaks down versus in different sections. So like if you're feeling like a failure, if you're, and so I, then I just have something. All I need is like something to go off of.

Inspired. You need to be inspired. Yeah. I just need a verse to be. inspired by and then I have something for it you are very similar yeah we would just need a verse and then something would pop in your head yeah yeah yeah the problem is is my stuff that I'm inspired by I've tried to do it and it's going to take me 30 minutes it's going to be a problem true but hope you have your thing right now we are sticking I have to do this because like literally but the problem is it's September 13 I know things are going to go changing on us September 13 I don't know TikTok's changing it's not going to be good tech talk yeah changing and like they don't want you to do they're going to take away all hashtags yeah

all hashtags are going I tried to post my last one one of the listen that the one that's doing pretty good now I I did it without hashtags got nothing I went back in and put the hashtags in like three hours later and it started climbing they're getting rid of them they don't want hashtags anymore I was literally on TikTok yes and it glitched me out and when I went back in the whole app changed for me. Like it's completely changed for me. That's crazy. I don't know. There's no TikTok shop. Like there's still a TikTok shop, but it's not like in like your fee. Like it's so TikTok shop influencers TikTok shop influencers right now are like starving. Like they're not doing very well. I saw this girl on there that was making 50,000 she made $300,000 last year.

Last month she made $3,000. She went from $50,000 in the month of January because you start building like a lifestyle a lifestyle that's exactly what I was thinking tracy right scary it is scary because you're like oh this won't ever end they just bought a boat like two months ago yeah no guys be smart call Jeff yeah somebody bought a house ideal retirement solutions will help you make your money grow oh wait a man are you talking about smaller Sam oh there's a smaller Sam does brands that's why TikTok shop is not the way to go no it's not it's branding. That's the way to go. If you're going to make money off of or Amazon, Amazon's going nowhere. Tick-Tock shop, sorry. You're relying on them to pay you. That's a scary thing. And not

change anything. Not changing anything. You might as well stick with Amazon. They're going nowhere and it's always going to be. And plus, the fact of the matter is, which sorry, this might get TikTok shop, TikTok mad at me, but TikTok shop, you can literally go and buy something. I mean, You can, you can, somebody, an influencer for TikTok shop will try and sell you something. All you got to do is freaking go to Amazon, get the same thing for like, potentially $20 less than you would if you got it on TikTok shop. Because it's like Amazon price with the commission to the influencer or the person that sold it. So now you're paying the person to sell that thing to you. When if you just go to Amazon, you don't pay it.

Even the Walmart app, I was going to buy something through TikTok shop, and I went on Walmart, and it was literally $20 cheaper than TikTok shop. I was like, why the heck what I buy it? Yeah, it's because they're showing you something, and I think people are catching on to it, and TikTok has found out that people are figuring it out. And I'm not saying completely that's it, but I'm just... Yeah, yeah. It's something.

And it's one last thing that they have to pay out people. So a lot of these, like, this girl even said, I don't even know how long TikTok shop is going to be around. Wow. Interesting. That's very interesting. Which I wonder. like probably in March I thought how long will TikTok shop last and then you said it to me like I don't know in May you were like when it all started coming out and it was brand new and you

thought about getting into it but then your thought how long will this last it can't all last all the time and I thought that's funny she said that because I literally was thinking how long can that last and then you go and you look they're charging more for the product that you can get somewhere else yeah it's never going to work it's never going to work it's never going to love it's never going to last. True, true, true. It may work for a while, but it'll never last. So to be a TikTok shopper, you might as well just go with the brands because it's basically

you're doing a commercial for them. And it's not you selling the product and making money off the sale of the product. It's just you introducing the product. Yes. And then making money off of it that way. Way better. And the Christmas coming, I don't think they want to pay out like they did last year. I don't know.

I might be wrong. True, true, true. Not that I care because I'm not really a TikTok shopper, but. does make sense makes sense yeah it does make sense I don't know um okay so just you finish up yeah we got Talia and we've got Talia's killing it Talia's always killing it how much how many is that 1885 yeah woo-woo yeah girl and then we've got a Sarah and Norma we're always going to leave Norma posts nothing she she's helping me in no way shape or form we're always going to have that and then look our newest our newest our newest friend to

I cannot believe. He's not even on there two weeks. He's at 71. I know. We've had a couple that went close to like, one was like 1,400 or something. And one was like 800. Already. And yeah, but people really like the videos. So that's good. We're getting a lot of like hurts for it. So if anybody's done this, if anybody's done it, they know. It ain't that easy. No, no. I mean, how long you've been on TikTok and you have 200? Like posting, maybe like three months. I've always had TikTok. talk for years but I never posted once I started posting about three months yeah and you like it's still it's hard it is it's a part-time job it's it really is it really is and anybody who's

become an influencer they literally said yeah right it took forever especially in the beginning it takes forever but once you get traction like it starts coming but it is not easy but 71 people you got to find your niche yes no I am not an influence She's totally an influencer. But I will be. They love her. And you ain't going to be able to talk to me when that happens. Oh, my gosh.

What makes you an influencer? I don't know. Oh, okay. When I figure it out, that's when you're not going to be able to talk about. For the record, I found that scripture. Oh, yeah. Please share. Okay.

It's in Philippians chapter one, starting at verse 15. It's true that some are preaching out of jealousy and rivalry, but others preach about Christ with pure motives. They preach because they love me, for they know I have been appointed to defend the good news. those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me. But that doesn't matter whether their motives are false or genuine.

The message about Christ is being preached either way. So I rejoice. Amen. So that's a great verse. That's immediately what pops into my head when you guys were talking about the Arch Church and how, you know, they might switch things up. listen as long as they are pointing people to Christ and that eventually those people here's the thing people will sniff out sniff out fake real quick and they will they will

find a place that is operating in the anointing but here's the thing and I agree with that to a certain extent but here's the thing Paul also is constantly warning against what we're seeing in the arch church and the pastors you will have people who will sniff out. It doesn't say that it says that people will find places for their ears to be tickled. For sure. So the people are finding these places for their ears to be tickled. So it's like I've told this story before where we told these two girls,

like you're having sex outside of marriage. So that's sinful. And you'll die and go to hell if you stay in that. And they said, we're going to go back to this denomination and this church. because we're allowed to do it there. So they're the ones that seek it out. But if you weren't existing, they couldn't seek it out. And that's why I have a problem with these churches

because there aren't going to be people like you guys that sniff it out. There's going to be people who run to it. And that's what the word of God says is going to happen. They'll run to these places so their ears can be tickled and that they can continue the lifestyle that they're living in. And Paul was, in Corinthians, was warning against this constantly and telling them stop it. so our job is to say stop it like stop this you're a danger to Christianity um but there'll always

be people who will run to it and if it wasn't existing if it didn't exist they wouldn't be able to do it it's just like for me if porn didn't exist nobody could watch it would it be a bad thing no it wouldn't be a bad thing if there was no weak churches compromising churches that said everything, I'm okay, you're okay, everything's okay, and all you're going to do is say this and you're saved and it is no repentance really required. I don't think it would be a bad thing for those places to not exist. I think it would be very helpful for people.

Then they would actually be making a mindful decision to serve, to be hot or cold, to serve or not to serve the Lord. But right now we're just producing one lukewarm believer right after the other. And that is way worse than being, cold in my opinion based on what the word says way worse because his word says i'd rather you be hot or cold for the lukewarm i'll spit out of my mouth if you understood what the lukewarm was at that time that was referring to then you would go i don't want to be that it's very dangerous

so it's so bothersome to me yeah but it is prophetic it's kind of end times and so if we want Jesus to come. I do, but I want people to be saved. I know, I know. But, like, that's just the, it says the love of most will grow cold. And people will be lovers of themselves, like, when it's coming to the end. And so. Livers of money and lovers of themselves.

Yeah. So, I mean, it's like almost one of those things that, like. Has to happen order for his return. Yeah, I know. But, man, at the cost of lives, gosh, darn it. If we could remove this. And, like, somebody asked me in their day, like, well, if God is good. and I know what good is

why would God not just allow all good stuff to happen? And I get where they're coming from but there's sin in the world. And that's just what it's, it's unfortunate. We live in a fallen world. Nobody wants to be in a sinful world like that love Jesus and are looking for that final destination, but we're here.

And then there's a few that are in these churches and they're reading their word and they're like, wait, I want more. And that was your story. Right? And then you found, you know, Foundation Church And I mean, we also found our home here. And so there are going to be people who are going to be in these churches where it will awaken them because they're reading the same word. Yeah.

That will find places like, and thank God we have foundation church. Thank God we have the river and revival today. And they keep building churches all over the nation. So thank God that we have these spirit-filled churches that they can run to. Right. When their eyes are open and the veil is. is lifted. Yeah. I know. It's not good. It's very sad. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to our first question. We only have 15 minutes left. That's not good. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to talk about this. I'm not going to do my first

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because we deal with this in the church all the time, and I'm sure you two girls are three girls, four girls, five girls in this room, will be able to relate to a certain extent. But the question was, is what do you do when you've done a lot for different people? Well, let's use the scenario of this. Say this person that contacted me did a lot of things for people in our church. Like our church does a lot of things for people financially or not even financially. We do a lot of things.

We help fix things for people, take care of things for people, drive people to places or pick up people for people like Uber them or whatever and those people sometimes those very people

are the first ones to leave or they don't say thank you or if they like when you're in need or if you could if something they have could be of use to you

they never volunteer it do you know what I'm saying Yep, I do. Like, it would, if you, if you had, we're in a situation where your house, if you were, if you did work on somebody's house, and then when you're in need to have something done at your house or maybe you have a garden, and it would be nice for you to give the people that, um, helped you out, give them something, like, give them, like, vegetables or whatever. You never even think about it. You never even do it for them. like what do you do in that situation how do you like not be bothered that you extend yourself to people and yet when you see them extending themselves to so many other people but they

never even come and and then they continue to ask more of you he's like what do you do with that and how do you not be so irritated and angry and not want to confront them that happens to people all the time like i mean this happens it's happened to me i a number of times and i'll give you an example of this so you kind of understand what i'm saying so when our house got demolished for ian um one of the people that helped us out a lot with our house and you guys know this is bill bill like not only had his workers come in and I mean obviously we paid them but there were times that Bill and his wife came over and he did he's done this for a lot of families at our church like he's done this for a lot of people but like he

came over and he did some work for us and he's like I'm just going to help you out right I'm just going to show kindness to you now when his house got destroyed in Milton I think it was or was I don't know. It's Helene or Melton? It might have been Helene. Helene had the worst. It was Helene. Because that had the most surge. When his house got destroyed, I think, in Helene, I said to my kids, and one of the things I did is I said to my kids, I said, we're grabbing, and I think Talia was there.

And Kristen came. I said, I'm going to grab a team. I'm going to get a team of people, and we're going to head over there, and we're going to do first. him what he did for us because in a in a clench and a pinch and a pinch he was there for us and he needed help but how often and i'm not saying i'm the greatest at this not i'm just using this as an example i am sure that i have missed people and people could be watching and say well you didn't do that for me or you've done this for me i i get it i understand but my point to that whole thing is is how often are we are we receivers of people's graciousness and then when they're in the or or not in need

in need or not in need do we reciprocate or show kindness to them in simple acts of kindness or do we just move on with our lives I think that is I think it's more true that we move on with our lives after somebody has done something kind to us and we just kind of like move on and we forget about it would you not agree I would agree would in reality we should extend more grace to those people as far as not graciousness as far as like thankfulness appreciation to them

because of everything they've done for us and the help that they've given us. So like if you have a garden you may not think that they need it but like for me Bill loves eggs right his family goes through eggs my chickens aren't laying but when I

they have laid like I've tried to make sure I give him eggs, right? Because he, and you wouldn't think that he would, because, you know, Bill's just, like, you don't think that Bill, not that he wouldn't appreciate it, but you're like, he doesn't need anything. Yeah. Like, he's just, because he's good. He's good. Yeah. But the man appreciates everything that you give him. And so for me, I just sit there and go, okay, even if you don't think that they really need it or would really like it, maybe making a plate of cookies or something for somebody, like Jared doesn't ever act like he needs anything either and Jared does a lot for people

without anyone ever knowing about it yeah and but and he may not eat cookies because he's like on this thing but there are things like jera's always buying stuff for people always blessing people and i'll be honest with you i hardly ever see anybody do that with him and he doesn't he's not asking for it he doesn't want it i mean if somebody did it he'd be very very very very very appreciative. But a lot of people think that Jared doesn't need it because they think that he's at a certain, like Bill, they're both financially at a certain level. What I would give them, they wouldn't really care about. It wouldn't really mean anything to them. But they're not like that. They're not like that. Yeah. When he gets anything, like even a note, he will keep it

forever. To my point. Yeah. To my point. But both of those guys aren't people that people would suspect would be appreciative of that but both of them are huge givers oh yeah huge givers yeah for sure so what i was saying to this person is i'm like well if you have an issue with somebody here to take it to your brother or sister right but more importantly figure out really is it more your carnal nature and maybe you need to take care of your carnal nature and pray that the lord convicts the person or persons that you feel like haven't been grateful for things. Fix it so that you don't need them to be grateful and that you're okay. But maybe they need to learn, like so many of us that don't really know how to do Jack's

squad, need to learn like, be grateful and be thankful and show that appreciation towards people that have gone out of their way for you. and give them favor but um i mean it happens all the time with the church and those people are usually the first to leave it's you give people money true almost every time why is they're going to go that's weird i don't know why that is i don't know why do you think that is norman goes because they're users i don't believe that they're all users i don't believe that they're all users I don't I don't know why it is why do you think Tracy I mean do you have a thought on that my first thought is maybe just because like church feels like charity to people like it's almost like

they're owed like well you guys like you're a charity you know and so you take care of me like that that almost like an enormous kind of same user victim mentality where they're just like well you guys can take care of us you're a church like that's your job that's your job But it's your duty. It's your duty in the ministry to take care of me. Do you think that people think that about people who attend the church too? Like this person that I'm talking about, like they think that it's people's jobs in the church.

Like when you know how to do something, like I'm going to use Nick as an example. Like Nick's, Nick is another one. Helps everybody with their vehicles. Gives away vehicles. I don't see anybody doing anything for him. to say thank you I don't I mean I might be wrong about that but and I might be wrong about I might be wrong about Bill I might be wrong about Jair I'm almost positive I'm not wrong about Jair because I'm very close with Jair you're not yeah um and maybe people do do it with Bill like I don't know maybe I'm wrong about that

but um but like I don't think so with Nick either and and so for me I'm like is it because certain people know how to do certain things or they give off an air that they got it all going on maybe and or so people think well you've got money so you can do it yeah it's kind of my dad is kind of the same way

like my dad appreciates like I would get him these under armor sandals and they have holes in them so like when he walks when it's wet they just go through he appreciates that I get them for like every year because he goes through them so much yeah and he lacks nothing like he is good

but he appreciates when people get him any like we got on the stupid tent to go over his iPad out by the pool because that's every day's a Saturday for my dad now yeah he was like this is the most amazing thing ever that was the first thing he pointed out to me it was so it's simple things it is it's true it's people that you might not think I mean literally the eggs the eggs I gave to Bill yeah he's like oh my gosh you wouldn't think that he would care about eggs I know but he was so grateful I said hey I got some eggs in the house do you want to to take them? He's like, really? And I'm like, oh, yeah. I'm like, we won't get through them all. Now my chickens aren't laying and it's been quite some time. But I'm just saying that. True. And you wouldn't think this, but out of Jeff and I, he's the more, he's the most sentimental out of him and I. Yeah, I believe that. I don't keep anything really. Interesting. And he, like, I open up his drawer in his office and he has like notes that the kids like wrote to him. That's Tom. This little, like, ribbon flower that he made for me when we were dating.

Oh, my gosh. He still has. What? I have nothing. I have nothing from, like, back in the day. That is shocking, actually. So, yeah, it's usually the people who think, who people think have it all. They do have it all together, but they, I don't know.

It's just that they don't, they want for nothing is what I think. Yeah, that they don't appreciate things. And they are the ones that do appreciate the most. I think. See, it's like Trump. I liken it to like Trump. Trump does a lot for a lot of people. But I sit there and go, how often do people do a lot in return for him? Because he does it. He does, like he loves to please people, but I think he loves to be embraced. And so I think that most people would think he doesn't want for anything, like you were saying, or you were saying about your dad. He doesn't want for anything. So he wouldn't appreciate my, I know. He wouldn't, like this is small potatoes. Like he would say, he would say, think I'm weird. I really think that in some instances, people honestly think if I gave them this, they would be like, you're giving me that. But in reality, they would be like, holy crap, thank you so much. Like, I can't even believe you thought about me. People don't realize that

people are like that. So what I want to say in four minutes over is, if you are a person that does a lot of things for people and nobody does anything in return it's unto the lord and lord will bless you don't hold it against anybody don't get all bothered and carnal about it because you did it as unto the lord and you'll be rewarded greatly for it true but if people have done things for you over and above or not even over and above if people have done something for you make sure that you appreciate them even if you don't have barely two nickels to rub together two pennies to rub together there is certainly something you can do is in so much that you can't even buy a card but you can make one true you can make one true and they would probably be so grateful that you thought enough of

them that you set aside 10 minutes to tell them that even if it's homemade amen special Especially if it's homemade. I love a homemade card. A pie? A pie? If you made a homemade pie, you're talking $5. Yeah. Homemade sourdough bread.

You know how happy. It makes me every time I get a loaf. Amen. Same here. I'm like, it's just worth every dime too. I'm just saying like there are things that people can do for people that even if you think, even if they haven't done anything for you. But you think that they do so much for others that it might be a nice touch for

them to get something in return do it yeah do it because the ones that are the least likely probably are the ones that would love it the most i agree so that's my that's my uh two cents yep that's what i say i like it that's all she wrote anything else coloshans 323 whatever you do work heartily as for the lord and not for men that's what you were saying and that was what that's what I had. And those who refresh others will themselves be refreshed. Amen. Yeah. That every single time. It's his word. I know. I know. And his

word is final and it will never return void. Yeah. And thank you Lord for that. Amen. That's like whenever I think of things like it does not return void. I think well you know what? That like just solidifies it. That's it. Exactly. That's the hope. Just believe it. Just believe that. That's the hope.

Yep. So that's all she wrote. I We'll say this as a funny little thing. I kid you not. You know, we have, this isn't funny, but it is kind of funny. We have the whole weekend, or from Thursday to Saturday. We have fearless, right? Isn't it just like the devil in the middle of Saturday night?

I'm in the middle of my sleep, and don't you know that the devil himself wakes me up and tries to put fear on me? Are you serious? What? Yep. Yeah, I'm not kidding you. I was like, well, this is ironic. not absolutely not oh yeah and so much and so much this girl right here

got up to start like pacing and praying um like you lay your butt right back down lay your butt right back down you pray and you go back to sleep oh you know this story is it Leonard Ravenhill oh I don't know that woke up yeah yeah one night No, that's Smith, that's a Smith Wigglesworth or John G. Lake. It's one of the two. John G.

Yeah, who got woken up in the middle of the night and he realizes it's, it's a demon or whatever. It was the devil himself. The devil himself. And he wakes up. He's like, oh, it's you. And he puts his head back down on the pillow. He just goes back to sleep. Did he move the bed?

Oh, yeah. The devil moved the bed somehow. Yeah. He was like, oh, it's you. He goes back to sleep. And then he wakes up again. He's like, actually, move the bed back where you found it. And then get out of here.

And then get out of here. Yeah. You had to speak to that. But listen. Well, here's the thing. It's what you do. And I thought about that because I thought to myself, it's not by accident.

When I was laying there and I was speaking to it, like, it's not by accident that this is happening. It's all by design. And the thing is, for me, either the word is true or it's not. And either I either say what I mean and mean what I say, and then I respond to it and the manner in which I spoke it, or I'm a liar. So in those moments, you have a decision to make. So come to your flesh and not believe what you preach, which is not the word. I mean, you don't believe the word, which is what you preached, or you use the word that you preached and you apply it to yourself. come on but isn't that funny i was like isn't this just like the devil not not happening new tricks

i know no new tricks no i was like this is funny not funny wow but i went back to sleep yes you did and i slept quite peacefully i love that amazing i love that's the way to win that is the way to win have a great uh wednesday people and we will see you on friday with natalie with your questions yeah let's be fearless bye babies bye Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk.