The Hope Hotline - Toxic Gym Culture!

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

The Hope Hotline | S03-E21 | 03-21-2025

Hello and welcome to the whole pot line. It is Friday and you blink and the week is gone. I literally thought it was, I remember going Tuesday when, when I was thinking about Tuesday, I was like, Oh, good night. It's it's, it's the beginning of the week. That's great. And now it's gone. Yep. It's Friday.

So busy, man. I know it is. Yeah. Flying by. So dang, man. I know. It's flying by. It's officially busy. Officially spring. It was first day of spring yesterday. It's officially spring.

Oh, is it today or yesterday? Well, yesterday. But now we're, yeah, the 20th. It's the 21st today. Yeah. Officially spring. Floridians are like, yeah. Which, your spring is our summer.

Right. True. It's officially summer here in Florida. Yeah. It was a little chilly today, yeah. Which your spring is our summer. Right, true. It's officially summer here in Florida. Yeah, it was a little chilly today though. Oh, I was wearing a jacket today. I saw you on your thing, I was like, me too. I'm cold. I'm prepared. It's a little chilly this morning.

But this is a busy weekend, super busy. We got 50 plus breakfast club tomorrow morning. Our first breakfast club. Are you carding at the door? I'm caught. No, I'm not. Somebody said, it's so funny. Somebody said, if you ain't 50, you ain't getting past to hope.

Right. You don't want to do that. That's what Jeff says that during the announcements. Are you kidding me? He's like, she's going to card you at the door. Everyone at the door. Bring your AARP card. I've been old enough to go. Talia asked if she's old enough.

It's going to be a good breakfast. But you have to be 50 years old. I'm 57. I'm going to be 58. There's no way. I think you forgot how old you are. I think you're way younger. Somebody wants a raise.

I forgot how old you are. I think you're way younger. Somebody wants to raise. Seriously. Chay you said that she thinks I'm 70. Tell ya. So bad. So yeah, 50 plus breakfast. That's gonna be nine o'clock tomorrow morning.

And then, Right here at church. Right here at church. Then there's communion on Sunday. We also have soul winning tomorrow too. Soul winning tomorrow morning. Yeah, thank you for that because I totally forgot. Soul winning is tomorrow morning.

50 plus breakfast club is tomorrow morning. Then there is communion and then the girls' gun club right after church for that. I'm gonna be tired. Alrighty, you gotta pace yourself this weekend. church for that. I'm gonna be tired. All righty. You gotta pace yourself this weekend. I know. I mean, every day has been so busy this past week. It's been great, but golly, this week passed.

I can't even believe it's already the end of March. Literally. Yeah, that one shocks me the most. Come on. For you know it, it's April 15th and taxes need to be paid. No, I'm not. I'm not. Delay, delay, delay. That one won't be until October. Absolutely. Doge is investigating the IRS. So once they do their investigating then it's like, do'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, because basically he was saying you're renting your property, not owning your property by forcing, it is true. It is true. I'm telling you right now though guys, I obviously want this to happen, okay? But I will tell you guys, if that does happen, we are going to be the first, the number one most populated state instead of the third most populated state.

We think things are bad now because traffic. Norma just went to Tampa and it was two and a half hours. How did you get to Tampa today? Yeah, I was on the phone with her. Two and a half hours. Yeah. It's terrible. She couldn't even get out of Sarasota. Yeah. Yep. It's terrible.

She couldn't even get out of Sarasota. Yeah, same with Jer. Oh, she saw a leak hero truck in Tampa. Aw, she was in my car. So he probably didn't notice her, but she's like, there's a leak hero. Oh, see, I know. We're busy up there today.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Seriously, like what the what? The traffic's pretty rough this time of year, especially. I don't see the difference when people are gone to when they're here. I don't notice it. I'm just saying.

Yeah, it's getting harder and harder to notice a difference for sure. So if you're a snowbird, right? They usually leave right after Easter. Yeah, or just before, just before Easter, which Easter is the end of April. I don't think they're leaving. I think they're staying. I think they're staying too.

Every year they stay longer and longer. Which okay, it's great for the Floridian economy, but I don't know if I care that much about it. Oh my gosh. Like it's rough. If you look at West, where we live, if you're not in the area, but where we live, West villages, which is where the brave stadium is, which is like two miles from my house.

If you see all, have you gone down River Road and see all the new houses that they're building back there? Yeah. Every time I go to Costco. Who are all these people? Who are they? True. Buying all these houses.

Yeah. True. Have you gone back where, like, if you go past the Costco, if you're going towards the Costco and on the left-hand side, you see all of those houses that are right on 41? Like, who are all these people? And where are you coming from? Yeah, who are you? I don't know, man.

I literally was like, they'll never, they aren't gonna be building over there because. Right. You can't even see how far it goes back. There's so many of them. Yeah, who are they? You need to start going knocking on doors and be like, who are you?

Where did you come from? Oh my gosh. So what's your story? What's your story? Oh my gosh. Why are you missing a two? Are you talking about Tommy? No, no, no.

Okay, this is a personal question, but I just came to my head. Okay. And then we will get to questions. But Tracy, like that next stuff we got on TikTok Shop. I have been seeing ads for that specific one everywhere. Okay, look. What is that? Look at that.

See, I've only used it a week. Can you see the difference? Listen, I'm here for it. Wait, what are we using now? It's... It's this next, this neck cream. And I'm kidding, I'm not kidding you. Like...

I need a link right now. I thought the other stuff that Kristen Benz got me was good, that I started having reverse effects from it. This stuff on the other hand. Because you build a tolerance after a while. That makes sense. And everybody says, this isn't a facelift, so you have to keep using it.

But it smells good. You're using it too? Yeah, because she was like, oh my gosh, I need some. Cause she's feeling the next situation. Oh, yes. We both talked about it. I... I can put it, if it's on TikTok, I can put it on here.

It's like go pure or something. And I'm looking. I will tell you, cause listen. I think I took a picture. Don't be gatekeeping on me, okay? This stuff, put it on the whole pot line. Put it on something because for women that- I got it, I found it.

I mean, we're not gonna make any money off of it, but- Yet. Yet. But I will tell you, I'm thinking about lathering my whole face up in it. My whole body. Cause holy moly, my neck looks different. No, I can tell. Women, I mean, even men don't even,

like some men don't like how their necks, when you start aging, how your neck. It's like overnight. It just like happens. It is overnight. And you're like, what the heck is that? You know how when you go to take a picture, but you didn't know that your front-facing camera is on you? Oh, yes.

And you're like. That happened to me. And I looked down and all I saw was this neck, like loose neck thing happening. And I was like, absolutely not. What's going on? It's a bit challenging. It's tough.

It is. Cause like this right here, he's getting more increased. And then I have these from laughing. Right. This like- Laughing lines are nice. I don't, I mean, but they're really indenting.

I look like, like this area looks like I might be a smoker. I'm not, never happened. Well, I used to like socially, like start my friend's cigarettes for them. But I never- That's so nice of you. Like I, like, can I like that and get that going for you? But I never learned to inhale.

I was like Bill Clinton. I never entailed. Right, of course not. I might have if I knew how to do it. I tried so hard to learn to inhale. I could not figure it out. For the life of me. It's a good thing you didn't.

Yeah, thank God. For the life of me, I never figured it out. I don't like, I love the smell of cigarettes though. Really? Well, not all cigarettes. I like Newports, you know, menthol. It's a poor man's, it's a poor man's ciggy. And-

It's nostalgic or something. It's nostalgic for me. And just like malt liquor, nostalgic. Oh my gosh. Poor man's, if you wanna get drunk fast, drink a malt liquor. But also don't. It's not like a Heineken.

No, no, it is not. Definitely a taste difference, but it gets you there real quick. And we do not promote that. Now I'm not suggest that either. I'm not promoting drinking at all because I do not drink. But I will say, if you're in the world and you want to get a quick fix, that's that's the way you want to go. Just kidding. This is for entertainment purposes only. Totally 100 percent.

But Mallboro's I love the smell of a Marlboro. That's like. Oh, I'm sorry. I just had a thought. Or a pipe. Oh, pipe. Okay, go ahead. So I'm back at the neck thing,

because I'm still there. Oh, this stuff is great. Okay. So, but last time Natalie was here, she was telling us about a peptide that she is, I think already has started. Right, she sounded like she knew something that we didn't know.

Maybe when she comes back next week, she can give us an update. Okay, I'll add that to our list of things. She's on the chat. Oh, Natalie, add that to our list of many things. Let us know how your, I think it's called GHKCU is going. You would know. Are you kidding me?

You remember that? Yeah, sadly. I have a lot of these information in my head. I've done some research. I would have just now, it's A-B-C-D-E-F-G. I mean, close. That's what I would have said. It's pretty close.

Because pretty much, that's what that sounds like to me. It's pretty close. But yeah, I haven't used the night cream long enough to make a decision. But I do like this. You're probably not putting it on enough. Right, I just started it. When did you start it?

Like two days ago. Oh yeah, you won't. Morning and night? No, just morning. Do I have to do it twice? Yes. Twice a day. Twice a day, twice a day. You should be washing your face twice a day.

Twice a day. I don't do that. I don't want to wash my face. Twice a day, morning and night. I just keep reapplying. Another layer. Foundation. That sounds so tan. It's like your hair. Another layer. Foundation. That's why I'm so tan. And it's like your hair is sunning.

Exactly. Oh yeah. That's chaotic too. Everything I do has a level of chaos. Gotta love it. Oh, Natalie said the GHKC is going amazing. So wonderful. We'll see her beautiful face next week.

I might combine the tip, the peptide and this. Okay. She's going to look like a newborn baby. You are. You are. Watch out. Watch out, Tom, because I might like. I'm gonna go backwards. Throw you on the side and find me a little.

You know what happens though? Not hardly. Is that people get like, like they take care of one area of their face and then they don't take care of the other areas. So it looks so weird. Like they'll get botox. That's why I wanna lather up the rest of my face. We're gonna have to we're gonna literally look at newborn babies. My neck. They do have body cream too. Can

I have this in bulk so I can just lather my whole body? Seriously. It works great. I'm gonna have to talk to Tracy. Tracy's gonna have to like do some micro dermabrasion crapola to this to like layers, take off layers. Don't do any fillers. Never. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Cause I'll start migrating and then we're gonna look weird. Never will I do a filler.

I might do, I would think about laser. Yeah, laser, yeah. I would do that. To take off dead skin. I would consider that. Okay. But. You guys go first. I'm in. That does not bother me a bit.

Good, perfect. I'm just not all, I'm not in for the Botox. I'm not in for anything that's- There's a peptide. Totally. There's a cream. Yeah, whatever a cream can't do, I'm not doing it. There's also face tape.

There is. Like leg tape. I'm seeing leg tape like there's also face tape. There is. Like leg tape. I'm seeing leg tape like there's no tomorrow. Tape your face. That's true. What? Like behind your ears. No way. Yeah, it's for real.

Yes, it is a thing. No, it is. I'll find it for you. You can even use it for your neck where it's attached to a string. Yeah. And then you put the tape on either side and then it stretches your neck back, but your hair is down.

So you don't know what's going on back there until you take it off. Or you put your hair up and you forget that you literally has the tape on the back of your neck. Cause that's something I would do. Me too. I'm hot. Pull my hair back. And then you see his tape.. Me too. I'm hot. Pull my hair back.

I'm on ECS tape. That's fine. Disgusting. Are you showing us what you're talking about? I wanted to try to find a video, but it's very hard to stupid. What's it called? If we could just have a MacBook and I could screen record. So this is kind of like what it does.

So you like stick it on and then you pull it back. Notice they have like a 19 year old. I know. Yeah, she's probably so old before that. Come on guys. Get somebody who's really like. There was. Did you see the first one that came out?

The lady that looks so old and then she put it on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who I was thinking of. As a videographer, I was like, is this a transition? Like, I'm looking so hard to see if like this is a joke. I'll see if I can find it while we're. Interesting. I know.

So many things to do guys, or you can just age gracefully. That's fine too. There's that. There's always something. Something to be said for that. I mean, I'm gonna fight it tooth and nail to a certain extent, but I will gracefully do it. Lean into it. Get yourself some bangs.

Hey, yeah. That's what I, don't take out your office scissors and try and do them like me. Because that's what happened. My bangs, well, they're better now, but I jacked them all up. I took a- You have to at least jack up your bangs

at one point in your life. Oh, I've done it many times. Exactly, do you even have bangs? But then I go to Jolene and she's like, did you? She's like, what'd you do? Did you touch your bangs? Yeah. And you can't lie.

I know. I do it, well, I do it all the time. I know. Tom literally was like, what did you do to your bangs? Oh, he'll notice. Oh, yeah, he did. I'm like, well, I took the office scissors to him. Oh my God.

I've fixed them, but it's gonna be a while. Oh man. They totally look decent. They look fine. YOLO. For real. What is? Okay, do the thing, and then we'll get to the first question.

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I will be there. Yeah, she says she's going to. It's going to be really good. And then her next one is going to be self-defense. Oh. A self-defense class. Very fun. So, okay, she's got some good things planned for the year. I know we got good stuff. Yep. We got some good stuff. So there's a dare to be at the end of April. I know that came up quick again. Very exciting. Yeah, That one's gonna be really good.

That one, that deep. I know, really good. I know. Yeah, they are. But this one, like, this one is, not that it's better than the other ones, but this one is all about healing. So from the beginning to the end,

if you're sick, need healing in your body. I love that. Spiritually speaking, mentally speaking, physically speaking, emotionally, whatever it is, that's your night. Yeah. That'll be your night. So make sure you're there because if you bring it,

you won't come with it. You won't leave with it. So. I hear the promo in my head. Oh my gosh. What is the promo? About healing that what you just said. If you all the stuff, if you bring it,

you won't leave with it. There you go. I think we needed to ask chat GPT how to say that better. We'll get it. We'll get a little spicy. We'll refine it. That's what it's good at. It uses us. We use it at it.

I'm excited for that. It is not, I'm so, what, I have been preparing for this one for months. It's good. It's awesome. Months. Very exciting. So I'm very, very excited.

So since the beginning of the year, I've been preparing for this one. So it's gonna be really great. Cause I think we're gonna have some phenomenal testimonies. So totally different than anything we've done before. So really great. So let's go now, don't take yourself off because there's no point.

Because I guess I gotta take a sip of my. Yeah, get ready. Get ready and get your energy up. I'm ready. Cause I know the answer to this question somewhat, but I don't have great, I mean, I was telling them a couple examples that I have of this, which I will use,

but like you guys have seen a lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy what's going on in gyms. Says, how can I help a friend who has gotten caught up in a gym culture that promotes swapping partners? Which I didn't know. It's like, I didn't know.

I've seen affairs. I've seen a lot of people being asked out. I didn't know swapping partners was like, and then when I was telling you guys about this, you got like, oh yeah. I'm like, what? You're not stunned at all. No.

But here's the thing, like, I'll keep going. She isn't a believer, but I can see how this is going to destroy her marriage and family. But here's the thing, I'll keep going. She isn't a believer, but I can see how this is going to destroy her marriage and family. What is the best way to approach this conversation with love and concern? And this is the reason why I say, even if you don't go to the gym,

you know somebody's going to the gym. And if they're not saved, then we all can speak into people's lives. They don't have to be Christians for us to be able to help people out. Like it might open the door where you can share your faith. But at the end of the day, even if they don't want to be saved and if they don't want anything to do with a Christian walk, they still have a family. And let's keep families intact. Let's show some love and care for even the people

who are outside of our sphere of influence, if you will. You might not have an influence on them as far as becoming a Christian, but you probably could have an influence on helping them make some wise decisions. Because there are a lot of good moral people with have strong character that aren't saved that can falter and fail and make a bad decision that they normally might not. Correct.

So we, we just need to look out for one another. So I say that with saying, you may not go to the gym, but this is something you need to know that's going on. Because you need to know that's going on. Because I didn't know it was going on. I was telling them, when I went to the gym, which was so brief in my early 20s, or excuse me, my late 20s, I was telling them my roommate's ex-husband

who didn't know that she was my roommate, he ended up asking me out at the gym. And I thought that would be awkward. Let me bring you home to your ex-wife and you don't even know. Oh man. Like, I don't know. I don't know if it's because people have a common,

like I've known people who've had affairs with people they've gone to the gym to. I mean, I've known people who've had affairs with people they've gone to the gym to. I mean, I've known people who've had affairs that were getting with their trainers and stuff like that. I've known people who've gone to the gym, go to the gym. They might be single, they end up talking to a married guy and they end up having an affair. Swapping partners though, like what the crap? Like what do you know? Because Tracy's like,

oh yeah, I know about that. That's pretty common. I'm like, what do you know about that? I mean, I thought it was just well known, not only in the gym culture, but also like police officers, like that whole realm. They swap partners? Yes, and it's a known thing. Like they're not embarrassed by it. It's not like something they're like hiding. So that's why I thought it was like a known thing. Okay, wait a minute.

So swapping partners is very, very common. Yes, yes. And I'm not saying everybody does it, but like in those two worlds, like, yeah. Hopping partners is very, very common. Yes. Yes. And I'm not saying everybody does it, but like in those two worlds, like, yeah. Like it was like, everybody knew who was doing it. And you just like, if that wasn't your thing, you would stay away from those people.

They went to certain clubs, they went to certain bars. Like how do you identify yourself? Like. Yeah. How would you know that they're- For the loofah? Like the villagers? I think they just, they don't, they're fine. They want to find out who their people are.

So they just- Maybe they have a certain handshake. I mean, here's the thing. I'm going to be honest with you. I can see how that might happen when alcohol is involved. Yes. And it always is. Right.

Always involved. But do like, have a lifestyle of it. Like an accident. Yes, but like you guys have said, this is a lifestyle. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think when you're at the gym, you're just kind of in your flesh. You know what I mean?

You're pumping iron. You're trying to make your physique look as, you know, chiseled as possible. And you're kind of just in your flesh a lot. Yep. And a lot of people in your flesh a lot. Yeah. And a lot of people didn't always look good. So it's like the first time in their life where they're like, wow, I look really good.

Like, and they're getting attention that they've never got before. Yeah, that's so flipping true. Or for example, with police officers. That is so true. Yeah, and with police officers, maybe they, nobody ever like listened to them. Now all of a sudden, everybody has to listen to them.

So now they're like, they might not be cute, but they're, you know, they've got power. They're, they're superior to everybody, supervisors and stuff like that. But are they swapping partners with people in the sheriff's office or the police department or? The story, I mean, I don't, the stories I heard, yes. people in the sheriff's office or the police department or what? I mean, I don't the stories I heard. Yes.

So it's a group of them. Yes. And teachers are like known for this as well, like teachers that women. OK, women, let me go back to the sheriff's office. Let me ask you this. OK. So are if the husband works at the sheriff's office, his wife is okay with swapping with another sheriff's office deputy, like another guy and his wife, and they all like swap with each other? Yes.

Holy crap. Yikes. Yes. Holy crap. Yikes. And there's rules. Like there's all kinds of rules too. Like what do you mean there's rules? Like everybody has their own set of rules. Like you can do certain things and not do certain things. And-

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What do you mean you can do certain things and not do certain things. And- Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What do you mean you can do certain things? I don't know. What did you say Vanessa? There was a reality show that just came out like maybe a year ago with the Mormon girls, right? Oh, yes. And they were doing something similar to that.

Yeah. What are you talking about? Yeah. There was the like moms, and they were doing the TikTok dances, and it became this really big thing. And then they were doing that. They were swapping.

Partners. Partners. They would all get together, party, get drunk. And then they'd be like, hey, what if? And there was rules. You couldn't do so much. You could do this. You can't do this.

And then it went too far, and they caught feelings. Right. And then it exploded. And they they caught feelings. Right. And then they left their spouses. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a mess. It's a disaster. Well, how do people not think that feelings

aren't gonna eventually get involved here? It never ends well. I don't understand. I don't understand that. Because, not to be too, but if your spouse doesn't really care about you in the bedroom, but then you swap with somebody who does care about you,

what do you think's gonna happen? I know, I don't know how you don't think of this stuff. It's actually mind blowing. And like, yeah, most people have kids, you know, most of these are marriages that have children, like they're full families. That is unbelievable to me. That is unbelievable to me.

Yeah. See the gem I get, the gem I totally get as far as you're looking in the mirror, you're constantly seeing your body change. Yep. And then people are complimenting you're constantly seeing your body change. And then people are complimenting you. All the time. All the time.

I mean, I go to a girl gym. It's pretty much all girls. And we all, and listen, we're all very friendly with each other. And even like the trainers are super great about encouraging you to keep you going and stuff like that. But that is way different than somebody with a motive. Yep.

So not to go backwards, but my mind is blowing. I know. It's a lot. Like who does this stuff? Like I would kill Tom. Like what kind of person, what kind of man allows his wife to be with another man unless he really doesn't give a rip about her

and wants something new and fresh himself more than he cares about her. But what woman would share her husband? Like how, like for me, I listen, I'm gonna kill you. You touch my man. She would have to be very insecure. Yes. And maybe dealing with her own issues.

To agree to that. Definitely. And I know one of my really good friends was in this lifestyle. dealing with her own issues. To agree to that, definitely. And I know one of my really good friends was in this lifestyle and left it and completely left it. And now she's a very strong believer. Why did she do it? Did she ever tell you or did you ever talk about that? Why she was willing to do it herself,

but why she was willing to let her husband do it? So they weren't husband and wife yet. She was married before and didn't think she wanted to get remarried. And she fell in love with this guy, didn't know he was in this lifestyle. So when she first started dating him, she didn't know he was in this lifestyle,

but he was in this lifestyle before dating him? Well, so he was married prior to as well. So they were both had marriages before. So with his ex-wife, he was swinging. Doing the same, and is this what destroyed their marriage? Yes, 100%. Yeah, 100%. So he thought it would be good,

a good idea to continue on after it? And he's not, he wasn't a believer at all. So he was 100% in the world and he probably didn't think that's what destroyed their marriage, if you would've asked him. He would've been like, no, she was crazy. Okay. It was me, it was her. Okay. 100% in the world and he probably didn't think that's what destroyed their marriage if you would have asked him he would have I can know she was crazy. Okay. Okay. It's her you know, so then she starts dating this divorced guy and

tall handsome marine and she falls in love with them and they're on dates having the best time of their life and Then she finds out that he's this is a lifestyle He wants to get back into and he's not gonna get married ever again. And at this point she really, she loves him, loves him. And she's like, okay, well there has to be rules. And so they started making rules. But then- Okay, what are rules?

Are you able to say what the rules are on this? Yeah, I'd have to pull what they were. Can you remember a couple of them? What are rules? So sometimes it's like, you can't go too far in the bedroom. Like what do you mean? Like you can't go all the way to sex.

It's just like touchy feely, making out and doing other stuff, but you can't actually have sex. No penetration. Right. But does that last? No. Cause you're drinking. And then sometimes it's just like, there's not two couples. It's just, you're bringing home a girl and then you're both doing stuff or a man.

And then you're just watching one thing. So it's, yeah. And she, so she told me this is- Is that what was going on with them? Yeah. Wow. So she said this is the darkest she'd ever, like she's, and she, she's like, she's like,

she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like, she's like yeah, and she, so she told me this is- Is that what was going on with them? Yeah. Wow. So she said this is the darkest she'd ever, like she's, and so she grew up in a Christian home, but it was very, very like hypocritical, very, like knew all the Bible verses, but did not actually live it out.

It was always hypocrisy. Her dad never really showed her love and all that, you know, all the, just a normal story like you would hear. And so she got married, it was very abusive marriage and then got divorced and then entered into this. So she really didn't have like true love ever in her life. And yeah, and it was quite a message, but she said that in those moments was the darkest

she's ever felt in her entire life. Do you think it was dark because her knowing, her being a Christian before, which makes it worse. I do, cause he didn't. He's like, he didn't feel like it was dark. Like this was exciting and fun and like a chase and you're like, it's the next weekend, you're waiting for the next weekend and the next couple

and the next girl and it's just always the high of it, where she was like- That's not high for me. That would be so like- Because you love the Lord. But I can't imagine women being okay with having a different partner every weekend. Like that would be so gross to me.

I mean, I know that we live in a different age from when I grew up and things like that. So getting around like that is, I don't know, is that common? I know they have Tinder or whatever that name is. What is that? Is it Tinder? That's a dating app, yeah.

And like a lot of people hook up on that, correct? That's what I heard, yeah. So we don't have anything like that, like back in the day. Right, right. I don't know, you guys might have, did you? No, no. Okay, so we didn't have that. You guys didn't have anything like that, like back in the day. Right. I don't know you guys might have, did you? No. Okay, so we didn't have that, you guys didn't have that. So I guess it's kind of common.

I mean, I'm sure it's also used for dating and meeting people, but it's also used big time for hookups. That's what my kids told me. That's what I've heard. Oh yeah, for sure. So, which all they do is on this app guys, is plan a meeting place, hook up, and then say their goodbyes to one another.

Unless they like each other, like their performance of each other, and then they'll use each other for, like what do they call us? Booty calls is what they used to call them back in the day. Yeah. But like, and that's all it is. It's just like, how scary is that?

They are how, like you are willing to risk your life because you don't know these people. You're willing to risk your life because you're that lonely or that desperate to have attention and what false love looks like, to be used. Yeah, literally used. Yep. And as Christians, like these are opportunities for us

to like share the love of Christ, to like open doors. And they might not receive them, but for me, it's like, this is such a great education for me, because if and when I ever run into anybody like this, like now I kind of understand why somebody might do that and then you can speak to that right and have an opportunity to potentially win them to the Lord because there is obviously something missing here a hundred percent so back to the girl. Yes.

Because this, I'm, you know, me, I'm like a puzzle piece, putting it together, which helps me to understand. I ask lots of questions. It's always helped me. Me too. Because the more you understand, the more you psychologically can get where somebody's at. Yeah. But, okay. So she thought it was the darkest time,

probably because you think, because she had been saved. I do. He didn't, because he had never been saved, but men are different when it comes to sex anyway, because they only look at it as an act. We as women, normally, don't look at it as just an act. It's an emotional attachment that we have to somebody. Usually have some kind of, I don't know,

emotional attachment. He is a self-proclaimed atheist that hated Christians, because every Christian in his life failed him. So he had a hatred towards anything that was like Christian, you know, that like, you know, marriage being like this beautiful thing. He's like, no, that's not what it is. So that he had his own yucky stuff from the past.

That's interesting. I know it, yeah, it is. But do you think even if she hadn't had a Christian walk, it would have still not been, I mean, do you guys know people who have been swingers? Like personally besides her? Or know people who've entered into these kinds of things? Like, are they genuinely happy?

Or are they trying to make it be that way because there's so many issues for them? I think sin is fun for a season for people. And I think it looks like each one is different. Like some people might love getting drunk and that's, it's just fun. Cause it was a fun, it was me, you're right. Right, right.

So I think everybody has their own thing. So if it's like, you've never really like had a lot of people showing you attention, maybe this is like one of these things where all these guys now all of a sudden like me and they think I'm beautiful and I've never had this before or girls think I'm hot and I've never, I've always been the chubby kid or whatever it is.

So I think it stems from something, but I think mostly sin is fun for a season. Yeah, but oh my gosh. Okay, so how long, we're gonna use a real life example here. How long did they do this? Probably, I'd say a year and a half before. That's a long time. Yeah, oh yeah, I do know somebody else too

that an old friend of mine did as well for a while. And she said the same thing and she was a believer, walked away and now she's saved again, praise God. But she also had said the same thing. It was like the darkest place for her. Like they were just always drunk because they couldn't deal with it. Because they didn't want to.

I would think that. They didn't want to, they didn't, but they wanted to be with the men they were with. Yeah. And it was like, it's either that, like we either figure this out and have lots of rules and regulations. But how did they know that those rules

were being applied to? Well, they're usually together. Everybody's usually together. What? You're in the same room? And there are different rules for that as well, but like at least the two girls that I know, yes. And it's a party.

That's a party hoe. It's a party hoe. It's an orgy. Yeah. That's really what this is. I mean, depending on the rules, some of the rules aren't no girls touch, no boys touch. And it's just, you just swap and then,

I know it's just such a mess. I know it's so bad. You just have to see it for black and white right now. No, thank you. Oh my gosh. I know, and I'm sure there's more than just drinking involved too, I'm sure. My mind is blown right now.

You know. I would have to be like on major drugs. Oh my gosh. There ain't enough drugs. I'm just telling you like, there's not enough drugs. I couldn't even imagine being in the same room while that was going on. It's very traumatic.

Yeah. Partner. Right. And that's why I think that's probably what she saw as the darkest is seeing your person look at somebody else that way. Yeah, that's not great. No, I think that's the worst. what she saw as the darkest is seeing your person look at somebody else that way. Yeah, that's not great. No.

Not good. Oh my gosh, how heart wrenching. Yeah. That's life without God. No thank you. Yeah. I don't want that. Mm-mm, yep.

I'm so glad she got out of that. Me too. It was, yeah, it almost didn't end. She almost wasn't here because of that. Okay, so like, are you able to finish the story about this chick? So she gets her life right, because you said she got her life right. It all blew up one night, and there was a lot of bad things that happened. And so she ran out, and you say things that you don't mean

because you're freaking out. And so he said some stuff that was very scary. And then she just left and hoped that the stuff he was saying wasn't true and he wasn't going to do anything. And then she just left and she ended up emailing me because it was back in the day. So she like sent me a legit email and I was like, Oh my gosh, like my mouth like dropped when she told me what she had been through because I had known we went to high school together

I well we didn't go to the same high school. She went to high school near me but I was shocked like I was totally shocked that she had gone through this and And then she just started like she's like I can't I I can't do this Like I literally am NOT going to make it and I'm like, yes you are. We're gonna do this. And so You know me That's never I haven't changed and so I spent every single day talking to her and Her boyfriend at the time was I told you a radical atheist and he was listening to a Christian radio station For whatever reason and they basically said like your time is up

Like you need to give your life to the Lord. And he did. He gave his life to the Lord because of a radio station and they're married today. Now what would have happened? Okay, precisely my point. People got this question or heard this question they're all like,

I don't need to listen to that question because it doesn't apply to my life. I don't go to the gym. Right. But neither did you. No, I got an email. Holy crap. And I never check my email.

That's precisely my point. I know, I know. You're making my point exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's true. You never know when somebody's gonna drop something on you. I don't know. I feel like God's like giving me like this special

like thing that like people tell me stuff that I'm like, I can't believe they're telling me this. Like, not even why, I just can't believe they're telling me this information because it's embarrassing, it's shameful, it's guilt, but they tell me. And so- Yeah, but it's not that there's a no judgment zone with you.

No, there's not, that's the crazy part. Well, you do judge though. I know, I know, that's why it's shocking they tell me. Yeah, and you do judge. So when they call you, they know they're gonna get like, what are you doing? Right. Kind of thing versus like, oh wow.

How can I help you through this? It's like, no, this isn't gonna work kind of thing. Like, because they want that though. I know. People, they want that. Right, because they do that though. I know. People, they want that. Right, because they do that, I'm ready. And so I do like knowing what's going on around me. I don't like being blindsided.

So I'd rather just kind of know what's happening around me and be prepared. Because I know there's a moment that everybody's gonna get to where God's gonna come, knockin'. And who's gonna be there when they do. Yeah. You know, so if you're ready and you know how to handle situations,

you know some scriptures, you know, I mean. That's why we should be ready in season and out of season. Always. For moments like this. Right, exactly. All the time. Yeah. All the time.

But I didn't know that guys, like that's shocking to me. Which what part? About the whole swinging thing, about how it all works, about the rules. I mean, I didn't know any of that, but you know what the thing is, is to me, like what's the difference, even though it's shocking, but literally what's the difference between people

who go out that are single, they go out and they meet somebody at the bar. This is way safer in some ways because at least you know these people and at least your other person is in the room, you're not getting raped. True. Whereas you go, these people that go to the bars,

what is the difference between having a different partner every single? No, there isn't. And people are like, that's disgusting. Well, I agree with you. I'm not a big fan of it, but at the same time, there's as worse, if not worse, things people could do. The only problem with this is when you're married,

it's adultery, which is adding another whole thing to it. But if you're not saved. I know, yeah, they're not the same set of rules. No. They live by their rules. It's just, you know it doesn't feel, like you know there's a heaviness attached to it. There's no, you know, it doesn't feel like, you know, there's a heaviness attached to it. There's no way you have the unspeakable peace

and joy that comes. And if you were a Christian before, like it's worth it. Like not having. Yeah, but I think that's where you're like, like what you said was, is it was so dark for her because she was a Christian, which I think made her run back to Christianity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do too.

More so because she knew, which I'm kind of glad, I'll be honest with you. At least she walked away and she walked away. Like she didn't play both sides, right? She did not. Which a lot of people will try and embrace Christianity all the while. I know.

And that's just not in this. This is in partying and getting drunk. Oh, I'm saved. You're partying and you're getting drunk and the word is very clear about that. It's like sin and you are not saved. I mean, it's very clear about that. There's a lot of people who try and define Christianity

under their umbrella of what they deem it to be. And I think it's really great that when a person can basically be like, this ain't for me for a while, I'm gonna do my own thing. And then when you hit rock bottom, you automatically know. Cause that's what happened with me. I mean, I walked away and I'm like, when it was time for me to come back, I was like,

oh, I know where I'm going. I know where I'm heading back to because I know the only piece that I've ever known in my life was found in him. Whereas other people who never experienced it, I mean, giving the God thing a chance is kind of chancy for them because they're like, is this gonna be like everything else?

And they just sometimes don't even bother with it. Whereas her, she knew. Same with me. She did. So in some ways it's a beautiful thing. I know it's really cool. The reason she reached out to me, we didn't know each other from like high school,

but not really. Like we went to different high schools. Like we weren't really weren't friends. I think we had like two conversations that I don't even remember them, but she was watching me on Facebook and she saw how I was like as a mom and as a wife. And she would just see.

And she's like, there was just something about you that I was always attracted to. And I knew you loved the Lord. I knew you always would post stuff. And it wasn't ever overwhelming, but it was enough. So that's why I literally stay on Facebook. Because I just never know. I never know the one stupid thing

that I'm going to post that somebody is going to see. And they're going to be like, they're just going to remember that if they ever need to reach out, they could reach out. Yeah. And so that's why you shine your light everywhere you go. Yeah. And all the little platforms, cause you just never know.

Like thank God she reached out cause she was feeling hopeless. Like she didn't wanna be here anymore. Yeah, instead of like putting all your drama on Facebook, how about you use it for a positive thing? Because I'm just telling you right now that my mother is texting me right now. Mother, I'm on the podcast and she watches it.

And she just called me. Oh, Norma, you're so silly. She just loves you. Maybe she wants to add to this conversation. And she probably does. I'm on my podcast, mom. You're gonna have to wait. You know, I had this girlfriend,

I mean, I'm still friendly with her, but she and I just, our lives, like she had way younger children and our lives have gone separate. She's a beautiful person. She was just, and she is a beautiful person. But one of the things I loved that she used to do on Facebook, I don't do it.

It's not my thing, but it could be somebody's thing. I have my thing on the different platforms I'm on. She used to always, she did what you did, Tracy. She always has something positive to put out there about her walk with the Lord. And then on a regular basis, she would put out on Facebook. Is there anything that you know who I'm talking about? Vanessa, you know her, you know her very well. Okay.

She was my closest friend. Oh, yeah, I do. So one of the things that she used to put out on Facebook was does anybody have anything they need prayer over? And they would reach out to her and they would like privately DM each other. And then she would make it a matter of prayer over that person.

And I'm like, if people used social media for those purposes, what a wonderful world it would be instead of like when you get angry with somebody you attack them personally or trying to sell your ability goods that you're not. Don't like you're trying people are so busy trying to paint pictures of themselves. Don't worry about the picture, be a vessel. But I just loved that she did that. And if I were to guess she's still doing it today, but that's the reason why she reached out to you though. And that's why people reached out to her.

And she was, lots of people always would contact her Lots of people always would contact her because they knew, like, if I reach out to her, she's actually going to do what she says. A lot of people say, I'll pray for you, and then they don't. They just don't. They don't put it on their prayer list or whatever. Like if I say I'm praying for somebody,

when people, I literally stop what I'm doing. Yeah, good. And I pray right then about it. So I keep my word and... Yep. All right, let's do it. Get it done. And then there are times that the Lord

just will wake you right up in the middle of the night and tell you to like last night for me, he had me praying for somebody and don't fall back asleep. It's your opportunity to change a life. And when he wakes you up, it's for a reason. Don't go back to sleep. Be a vessel.

Be something that God can use. And if you don't know what to pray, just pray in the spirit. All the time. All the time. But. All the time. But let them fill you up, man. So be that thing. All right, really quick, I'm gonna do,

do you guys have anything else you wanna add, Vanessa? I don't have a lot of experience in this area. No, Vanessa just got asked out at the gym. At the gym, at the gym. At the gym, I know. With her husband, President. Gym, I go there. Yeah, with Jeff right there.

Well, I attend the gym, it's 6 a.m. I thought I was Yeah, with Jeff right there. I attend the gym. It's 6 a.m. I thought I was safe at 6 a.m. And I'm also going with my husband. But apparently one of the old, I mean, he was probably pushing 70. Who can? Um, came up to me, he's like,

hey, do you want a sugar daddy? He's like, do you see that guy right there? That's my sugar daddy. Thank you though. Oh my gosh. Always though. Oh my gosh. Always though. I know. That's why you have to go to the bouge.

You gotta be cautious. I'm telling you, I love going to all pretty much. I mean, there are some men that come in there, but they ain't very many. And they like are looking down the whole entire time. They know they're in a woman's gym. But listen, they want the bouche too. Yeah, they like it.

True. They like the small culture. So what's the best way for her to approach a conversation? Like, did we give her like a clear direction? Oh, dear God, I totally forgot. God bless you, thank you. Yeah, it's okay. So how can, I'm still caught up in the whole entire thing.

I know. I totally in the whole entire thing. I totally forgot to answer your question. What is the best way to purchase conversation with love and concern? Like, how did you do it? Why don't you answer that question? Right. I have no, I mean, I can't, I think I, I mean. I think I would just pray for an open door.

Just pray and ask God that their heart is softened and that they don't have to get to the, like literally to the darkest spot. But then just stay in touch. But what if that door doesn't open? I'm like, she's gonna have to open that door. I mean, from me, like. But she's not a believer.

So how did like, yeah, so like, what do, so this is a non-believer. And is she bringing it up to, is she having the conversation with you? Do you just know, because like most of the time it's through hearsay for me. And so, like I- It depends on how close of a friend.

Did she say she was a really close friend? I have a friend, she didn't say she was a close friend. Okay, I'm gonna just tell you then, and this is off the top of my head, because I literally, when I read this, I only had two responses, and I was hoping that they were really gonna be able to help me, they're useless right now.

So here we go. I'm just kidding, you're not useless. I'm taking that sauce, bye. No, no, no, you don't need to take it. What I'm gonna say is, no, tell me if I'm wrong. Okay, I will, I will. And I'm willing to be wrong. I will. I'm never married to, well, sometimes I'm married say is, no, don't, like, tell me if I'm wrong. And I'm willing to be wrong.

I'm never married to, well, sometimes I'm married to my answers, but, cause they're biblical. But this, I have no Bible because she's not saved. Right. So if I were you, if I were you, and this was a good friend that's not saved, I would handle it like I've handled other situations where a good friend of mine or a friend of mine, because I don't

really have any good friends that aren't saved, to be perfectly honest, because I stick to the don't be unincorrigably yoked with unbelievers. So she's not, you didn't say she was a good friend, a close friend or a good friend, you just said she's your friend. But if I had a friend and I cared about them and I cared about their kids and their husband, and I didn't want to see this happen, I would handle it like I've handled other situations where I've seen things that might be, lead somebody down a really bad path,

that's a sinful path, or they're already in sin, but a path that might destroy them personally, not necessarily family. What I always do with those people is say, I always say, listen, I see something that you might not care about, but I just want to share something that I think you might need to look at and as a friend that loves you very much, take it or leave

it, but here's what I think. And some of it is my Christian thought process and other parts of it has nothing to do with being a Christian. It has nothing to do with being a Christian. It has everything to do with being a good person. And that usually speaks to people because lots of people want to be good people. It's like when you're raising children up, a lot of non-Christian homes will say, you don't lie because lying is not good. We say, you don't lie because lying is a sin.

Okay, there's different, but we all are trying to raise good wholesome kids for the most, you know? So even we are trying to be good wholesome people. You talk to, so a lot of times if I'm talking to a non-Christian, I come at it as I'm your friend, I love you, this is why I'm trying to tell you this, take it or leave it.

I know you're gonna think it's because I'm a Christian and I'm a good at I'm gonna do two shoes. It's got nothing to do with that. It's got everything to do with right and wrong. And is this something that's gonna be beneficial for you or benefit you? That's how I would do it, but they're gonna probably go pound sand

cause I want what I want, you know? Because as a non-believer, like for me, when I wasn't a Christian, anything went for the most part. I mean, I did have my boundaries on things, but there weren't a lot of boundaries. Like I didn't do drugs. I didn't, like, I didn't like, like I didn't have sex with women, you know?

I didn't sleep around. But even that when I didn't, I didn't, you know, a lot of people go, anything goes now. I mean, girl, girl, guy, girl, it doesn't matter. Like I mean, there were lines that I didn't cross, but there weren't a lot of lines. I mean, I was partying, I was drinking, I was running my mouth,

I was punching people's faces in, you know? Oh my goodness. She was. I mean, when you was running my mouth, I was punching people's faces in, you know? Oh my goodness. Yes, she was. Like, I mean, when you're doing those things, how, I mean, there is not a lot of boundaries that you have set for yourself. Sure. And it's shameful, but I didn't care.

And as long as my friends were like, go at it, you know? I was like, well, we're all in it together. And as long as people are supporting you and justifying what you're doing, we're all in it together. And as long as people are supporting you and justifying what you're doing, you're gonna do it. And if they're hanging out with those people more than they're hanging out with you, you're probably not gonna, they're not gonna listen to you

because they've bought into something. I mean, I would still say it because you never know. Like her friend, she was, you just don't know where they're at. Yeah. But if they know you love them and you care about them enough to say something like that,

then the odds are if they do cross the line and if they hit rock bottom, you have a chance of them coming back to you. I mean, what would you guys say other than that? Yeah, just keep the relationship. But maybe like Hope was saying, like you maybe not close. Like if you're not equally yoked, you've gotta be, you know, cautious of how much time you're spending

with somebody that's living that lifestyle or any lifestyle. Like if they're drinking every single weekend, like how do you maintain a friendship when you don't do the same things? Or you shouldn't be. Right, right, exactly. But so if you're not, well, assume you're not, just, I would stay, just maybe touch base with them, maybe Instagram, send them a message every once in a while or a video, exactly. But so if you're not, we'll assume you're not, just, I would stay, just maybe touch base with them,

maybe Instagram, send them a message every once in a while or a video, just so they, like, you're a top of mind because they know who you are. And hopefully you're walking on a Christian walk and because you're concerned about her marriage and stuff. So just stay, I would stay in touch. And pray for her. And definitely pray.

The Holy Spirit, God would open a door and soften her heart. Cause it's his kindness that draws people onto salvation. Yeah, exactly. So true. That's the whole point. Yeah, I forgot about praying. That'd be it. That's a great idea.

I said pray first and you said no. Oh, I didn't hear that part. You go to them. Okay. That's true. I take that back. I'll put on the replay. I'll put on the replay. I will reel you guys back in.

You're right. I was wrong. You do pray. Yes, very much so. But you gotta like, hit hard. I mean, if you care this much, it's probably time to say something and do it in love. Do it as softly as you can because she's not a believer. So you're not going to a brother and sister of Christ.

And don't use Christianese. No, please don't. I know it's not gonna work. So you're not going to a brother and sister of Christ. And don't use Christianese. No. Please don't. I know, it's not gonna work. All you're gonna do is repulse and repel. Right. I mean, I am the first one that a lot of times it repulses and repels me, and I'm a Christian. Especially when it's your village.

Sometimes, oh my gosh. Sometimes I'm like, literally, I don't even wanna talk to people. Right. Because I'm like, literally, I don't even wanna talk to people. Right. Because I'm like, yeah, Lee, can you just be a normal person? No, I know. It's yeah, it just feels,

you're just trying too hard. So try a little less harder and just talk like a normal person like you would to anybody else. Yeah. Way better. No, these are bows. Nobody wants to talk. Oh my gosh. And even like throwing scripture at them.

Like come on. I don't know. And they don't follow it. It's not their, it's not. They don't care. Right. Once they get saved, then you add scripture. But until then.

100%. But the main reason, and I will throw scripture. But the main reason you're gonna do this is because John 10, 10 says, Satan comes to kill, steal and destroy. And he doesn't just do that with Christian families. He does that with the lost. Amen, absolutely. And you don't want this family to be destroyed.

No. And stolen from. Right. It's like the worst devastation humanly possible is when a family goes and is splintered. Now can God fix it? Yeah, but it's pretty dang hard for that to happen. It is.

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though they weren't pretty much new before. But they're like high-end tires. But it just so happens that either I got a bad thread of tires, because I bought them pretty much all at the same time, and the manufacturer won't stand behind the product. Whatever. That'll get me it back. But I got another nail in my tire. So I was there yesterday and he was plugging it for me. Thank you, Nick. Thank you, Nick. Such a great guy.

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to help people out, like you wouldn't believe what he does. He goes above and beyond, like, such a great person and God is blessing them. So thank you for joining us. If you're a 50 plus or I will see you tomorrow morning at the 50 plus breakfast club. And otherwise I'll see you on Sunday having communion and then for the girls gun club. Right? Yeah.

Ready to go. All right guys. See you on Wednesday of next week if you don't live in the area. But otherwise, tomorrow or Sunday. See you. Bye.