The Hope Hotline - What Spiritual Maturity Will Cost You! Part Two

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

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Hello and welcome to the Hope Hotline. Thank you so much for joining us. Sorry for not being here on Wednesday. But all I can say is family comes first. And we're here now. When family needs you, you go to family. It's true. And here we are.

Yep. Here we are. I mean, I know a lot of you guys might hate your mother-in-law. I actually like mine. Oh, that's great. I know. I love that. I do love that.

She's pretty great. So I had to go to Jacksonville and help my M-I-L. so I wasn't MIA. Yes. For her. Yeah. So got to do what you got to do. You do.

Absolutely. So, but I don't think I told you guys this. We'll be here on Wednesday. I told Tracy, we'll be here on Wednesday. We won't be here on Friday. Right.

Because we have a pastoral meeting that we have to do up at the river with R.HB. So. Okay. Won't be here for that. But that's okay. Right. because Wednesday is our girl. That's right.

Our girl. So you better send in your questions. Did we have questions from last time? We still do. Yeah. So that's cool. Yeah. We still got some questions from last time, but she'll be here.

So if you have anything, send it in. You can put it in the chat or you can send it right to ask hope at hope potline.com. Yeah. I mean, there's pretty much nothing you can't ask her that she's not come find out or figure out how to answer. Nothing like bothers her. She's like, well, you know, that happens. I, that's like you have like, I. I have to say this.

If I have to have a physician or a nurse or a doctor or whatever, please, God, let them have a calm demeanor and a great bedside manner. Yes. And finding both of those and one person? Very difficult. Always been very difficult. Very difficult. But that, you know, she's like my sister-in-law because my sister-in-law is the same exact way. Really?

Very, very, like, I think people are just made for that. business. I mean, some of them aren't. They do it because of the money. But if you really go into it for the right reasons, like you're doing it because you really care about people. I'm not saying you're perfect or nothing, but like for her and even like Natalie, they care about people. Right. Yeah. They genuinely care. And so she does too. And her bedside manner is like superb. And she doesn't get excitable. Right. At all. Yeah. Which also I wanted a doctor. You know what I mean? I want somebody to be like super

nothing. Yeah exactly. Super chill. Give me nonchalance. Yeah. Any day. No shock value. No chalance here. No chalance. Well, because here's the thing. Even like certain people can be anxious individuals. Yeah. But still be calm in a situation that's not theirs. True. Because if it does it, if it's not their situation, they can still lend to the side of being calm, cool, and collected and not making a bigger deal out of something.

Some people love drama. Like, that ain't going to be my doctor. No. First of all, I'm not a drama person, but let alone, if you're an anxious person, all right, and I'm not. But if you were an anxious and then you had a doctor who was anxious, could you imagine? That's the horse world. As soon as something's wrong with a horse, everybody panics.

It's a worst case scenario. You're going to put your horse down. That's it. Every time. Why? Every time. Every time. I'm like,

everybody calmed down. I almost became a nurse. Me too. I got all the way into. Well, I didn't get that far. I did all my prerequisites. I got all the ways in the program. And I was just like,

this is not for me. But could you imagine me as a nurse? Can you imagine? I know me either? Absolutely. What were we thinking? You know how far I got? How far?

Just to the thinking part. I never even got past the thinking about it. I would read the report and you already know on my face what's happening. 100%. Why? You're going to die. Yes. Today is your last day.

She's looking at it and she's like looking at you and her eye. She's like, oh my gosh, you're in trouble. Vanessa's like, you might want to go out back. You need anointing oil right now. And they might need to like, like, oh, yeller. You might want to consider. You know who would have been a great nurse or great doctor? Who?

Heather. I said I was just going to say. She would have killed it. She is. In my head, she is. She is. Every time there's something, I'm like, I don't know, Heather, go show Heather. Literally.

Remember when Jar had a tick on his back? She loves the core. What is that? Cher had a tick on his back. For a long time. So he was going back and forth between Massachusetts and here because he had to like, you couldn't stay as long as I did. And so he got home on like, I don't even know.

It was like Friday or something. And he's like, something's on my back. So he couldn't reach it. And he looked and he's like, oh, it's a tick. And so he was going to wait until I came home like the following week. And I was like, no, Jerry, you have to get that off. Holy moly. I know. He's like, well, what am I supposed to do? I'm like, I don't know, go find Heather.

That's funny. So sure enough, she went and he's like, I got to take my shirt off. She's like, yeah, we got to get this thing off, Jare. She don't care. That tick was in there for a long time. He had it from. He was going to live with it. It was just he made his piece with the tick. Eventually the tick falls off because it's appetite is full. I don't think you feel good, though, when you got something like suck in your blood. I wouldn't think so. So he was just going to make peace with it until I came home and I'm like, I don't want to deal with that. Like go get Heather. So on Sunday morning he found Heather and they took care of it. She's the best, man.

She's like another one, Holly. Holly, 100%. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, yeah. She will like right now, if you had like a gash, she'll staple that in a second. Staple. Not even so.

She's like, get the gun. I think she owns one. I think she does too. I think she's done it. Oh my gosh. I can't even look at it. I know. If there's any men watching, sorry, but it hurts all the way down to my privates when I see that crap.

Mine's in my stomach. But okay. I'm like, it's true. Because it happens to me. I was going to call it what I normally call it, but I didn't know if people would mind. We'll keep a G. Another reason why I couldn't be a nurse. No.

Listen. Never. I feel something in somebody. body that might be just a lump or a cyst or metal in their body like like some kind of metal that it's a screw or I'm like okay I got to walk away I might lose it and we thought we were going to be nurses it's really not that bad I'm like no no no it's about to get really bad I'm out that might not be bad which you might be picking up off the ground is bad I'm actually shocked about that with you hope like I feel like

you would have like, you just, I'd be able to go to like a dark place. No, I do not have a stomach of steel. I do not. That is shocking. I do not. There are some things that are just not meant for me. Right, exactly.

I get it. The medical field is one of them. Same. And when my mom has to have anything done, I leave. I leave. You're on your own. Like, if I know it's going to hurt or cause her any pain and she might wince in any way. Yeah.

Uh-huh. I'm out. I can't do it. I cannot do it. Maybe if I didn't like the person, I might be like, I might be like, this is God's revenge. So here we go.

I get to watch it. But otherwise, no. Nope, not happening. Oh my gosh. Can't do it. That's crazy. I'm not strong. I'm not strong in the Lord

and the power is fight in those moments. Our calling is, yeah, we're helping people other ways. That's what I figured out. I just want to help people. It's not that. do it? No. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. I got a cut on my finger, and I literally almost passed out. I was like, oh. And it's always my fault. Like, I'm always doing it,

but no, I couldn't. I thought, I went to school to be a nurse too. I went through all the prerequisites. I took the Hessey. I did everything. And then Kylie decided to jump from the couch to the other couch and slammed her face on the coffee table and bit her tongue in half. The sides were together, but the middle was like separated. And then that was the moment I was in the bathroom and the ER and I was like, nope, I'm done. I literally at that moment was like, I can't do it. And everybody's like, it's different when it's your kids. I was like, no, you don't understand.

Like I can't live with this kind of like cortisol level. Like my face is going to get fat. I was like, no, I'm done. And I'm like, all right, God, just kidding. And then like looking at my life now, like how it panned out the years following that. It worked out well. Yeah, it would have been really bad. I would have been in the middle of clinicals going through a divorce.

So God, yeah. God took care of everything. This ain't for you, boo-boo. He's like, I know, your heart is you want to take care of people, but not this way. I have something else for you. And I know hope that might not reach you. I know. I'm like, why would I even have considered nursing?

Because do I want to take care of people? Yeah, what were you thinking? I don't think so. The stable paycheck. That was what, like, was my drive. It was a stable paycheck. It was a stable job. Okay.

It seems exciting to me. Okay. That makes sense. The part that's exciting makes me grossed out there. So why I thought they would correlate together. How old were you? Were you under 25? Oh yeah.

I was like in high school. I was an idiot. That's why, right. Oh, yeah. Tell you. Yeah. What did you say? Frontal lobe.

Definitely not developed. I nearly bit my tongue off. Really? Oh, yeah. Jumped into the pool. I thought it was deeper than what it was. Oh, no. Hit my head.

Oh, yep. And bit the middle part. Yep. The edges were together. Right. That was Kylie. But the middle? Not.

Not so much. And that heals. That heals. It heals way faster than you think it's going to heal. anything in the mouth. It does. It was amazing. It bled so bad though for so long and I was with my friends. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. Mouth and eyes. Yeah. And head. Because I take off my contacts like a feral cat. I do. It's bad. Hope, do you know what she does with her contacts? I don't. Do I want to know? Yes. I do. Are you sure? Yeah. Well, it hurt me all the way down to you. No, no. I wear

dailies. I wear dailies. So by the end of the night, I just toss them. I, wherever I'm at and I'm ready for bed. I literally go like this. And she just flicks them. Every night. I know. It's bad. It's the one thing. It's the one thing. So sometimes Jeff wakes up, but like they're stuck to his contact stuck to his face. But I can't tell you how.

I don't even understand. I can't tell you how many times though I've like scratched my cornea from like digging at my like eyes. I can imagine taking off my contacts. But I will say your eyes. heal very fast very fast they do i literally could like if i could have like i touched it like you can go into your tongue it's disgusting oh i know that's too much i don't feel good it's a muscle right i don't know i don't know i don't know but it was bad but it was in a week like a week it was

totally that was kind of i thought i was going to have to get well i wasn't going to tell my parents because I had dumped, jump, I did something so stupid. You didn't tell anybody? I probably told my mom, and she might not even remember it to this day, but it was so bad. So you didn't go to the hospital or anything? I should have. Right. But I was in high school, and I jumped in, I was like a sophomore in high school.

And because, you know, your parents always tell you, don't jump in the pool head first. And I didn't grow up with a pool, but I know not to jump into the pool. And when I did, I thought they're going to kill me. I'm not saying anything. So literally, I thought like this. I can't even tough. Because it gets swollen because it's healing. It's so swollen.

And anytime your tongue is off, it's so painful. And you can't eat because if you eat anything, it burns like fire. Oh, I don't remember what we did with that situation. It burns like fire because it's an open wound. Well, if they got stitches, then they were probably okay. Mine was open. She didn't. They didn't do anything.

They gave her a popsicle that day. Oh, so they did what mine did? Yeah. There was no, they were like, it'll heal. Oh, so good thing I didn't go to the hospital because they wouldn't have done squat for me anyway. They wouldn't have done nothing for you. How? I literally, we thought I should have gotten sick.

It was so bad. They were like. Galena wants to know how did you eat all week. Me? When I did it? Well, back then I didn't eat a lot anyway. But I probably have milkshakes and stuff. It's like for the first two or three days, probably the first two days, it's really bad.

Yeah. But then after that, it's healed so fast that like it like you can't even, I mean, you know, you know it's bad, but it heals so fast. It's like so crazy. You wouldn't believe that your tongue can heal that fast. It's crazy. It really is. It really is.

But I will say this. Side note on the old, and then we'll get into everything. Because we got to catch up and finish this what we were talking about last Wednesday. Yes. But, or yeah, not this past Wednesday, this Wednesday we were. But you know how you flick your contacts? Yeah. I do it every day.

And it lands on Jeff and it sticks to his face. I can't do the frownies, guys. I tried doing the frownies, too. You can't do the frownies either? It hurts. You don't like it? Like going to sleep with something like, question. I can't do it.

I need to like just sleep like this. It's too much. It's too much. Well, because you have to like wash your face too. I don't wash my face all night. Well, okay, I do wash my face at night and I'm sorry. That does not help. So even if you start, don't even bother washing your face, Vanessa.

It's not going to change anything. Don't bother. Trust me. I'm saving you. Whatever I'm like. I get to a point where I go, go, go, go, go. Especially now. And then I stop.

Are you doing the frownies? No. Okay, because I can't do them. I tried. I wanted to. I tried. And they do work, by the way. By the time I get to the evening, I'm ready for bed.

Like, I literally just roll in bed and, like, fall asleep however I look like. I know. Sometimes jeans, sometimes. Not me. I never know. I have been high. I don't think so. I've done it.

But peeling them off is terrible. I just don't like sleeping with them. I don't like sleeping with them either. They hurt peeling them off and they're very uncomfortable sleeping in them. Yeah, it's too much. You never tried it. You want to try mine? Yeah, you can try mine too.

I think I tried it for me for Christmas, so she won't care if I let you try them. Does she like them? She bought some, I don't think she did them yet. Yeah, one of our friends does it often. Probably she has my husband. I'll bring them. I will bring them to you on Sunday. you try them and you tell us on Wednesday how that we know it won't last with you anyway

because you do things and then you stop them hey I do too so like I thought I like to try me too it's very rare that I stick with it though same same the only thing I really stuck to is my commitment to my husband and my commitment to the Lord same and your kids are questionable right depends on the day. Yeah, exactly. Our family and Jesus. There you go. Literally those two things.

That's it. Everything else. I'm like, it's questionable. It is. Yeah. We've committed to a bye for a long time. That's what's shocking. That's how you know it's the Lord.

It's only the Lord. It's not our, it is. It's not the cardinal nature. It's definitely not the carnal nature at all. So, all right, sister. Okay. Go really fast because I'm going to go really, really fast. Okay.

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Woo, woo! Did it. Okay, I didn't know where we left off. Oh man, that laughing got me. I didn't know where we left off, but I found it, guys. Oh, look at you. You were such a professional. I don't know what to say.

That's why we hired you. I hired you. I don't think so. That's why we're the most unprofessional bunch and the business of podcasts. The most entertaining. Definitely entertaining. To us, the most entertaining. So the rest of the world.

We got some people laughing on here, so they're enjoying it. I mean, it's mostly my mom, but still. There we go. There you go. Your biggest fan. Always. Oh, my gosh. So where do we end off?

I'm not going to start there. Okay. I'm going to start back at the top because it's been so long. It has been. Yeah, let's regroup. But we're going to rush through the first. Okay. Let's do it.

To get to the second. Okay. I like it. I like it. Pinked Pocchio, each other, Coke. And not surprised at both of you said that at the same time. time. Cheers.

Okay. You know what I got on my mind right now? Hmm. Is those cookies that you bought the other day? Literally it keeps, they keep coming up into my head. Which one? The Crumble cookies. The Dubai that I was gifted or the other little ones.

The minis. The Buckeye. Well, the Buckeye looked. Guys, you might want to go to Crumble because the Buckeye one looked and the Biscoff. Yeah, I had the Buckeye. delicious. I know, and they're many, so they're like, doable.

I might have to go and pick some up afterwards after this thing. Do it. Okay. Just saying. I can't get it out of my mind. You can have it as a treat after you speak. Yes. Or before.

No, I'm going to do it before. I've earned it. After this podcast, after we put you guys through, I earned a cookie. True. True. Not you. Me. Fair.

What spiritual maturity cost? I think a lot of it. what we were talking about on Wednesday of last week is, I think a lot of people think they're on the meat when they're really on the milk. Because we really don't ever look at ourselves with a true magnifying glass. Like my mom has this mirror in her bedroom.

It's one of those long mirrors. And I call it a skinny mirror. And man, do I look great in that mirror? Like when I'm fat, I looked medium. I feel really good about myself. I've literally thought, gosh, man, I wish I could take this mirror around with me because this would be me when it's not me. And I feel great about myself.

Like when I look and now that I'm medium, I look at that mirror and I'm like, tag, I'm skinny. Hell of good. That's the way most Christians are, though. That's true. Wait a minute. Literally walk around. You are absolutely right. and delusion, wishing that they could walk around with whatever they have in their head to be the

reality of what it is. But the rest of us see the truth. And they still see the skinny mirror girl. Okay. Okay. You can think your skinny mirror girl all you want to, but it's better to look at yourself in honesty and truth so that those things change because the delusion doesn't help you. The truth helps you.

and it helps you to grow spiritually speaking into greater and bigger things. And when you think you're on meat, when you're really on milk, you're usually a person that thinks you're an adult and you're a child. And you behave like a child all the while thinking that everybody else is like you. Well, I would say this, narrow is the way and few there be that find it. Most people, it's like everything in life. Narrow is the way. Like most people will live a narrow path when it comes to healing.

They'll only look at the promises of God. People will do this in all walks of life and all things in life, spiritually speaking, narrows away. Most people won't go to heaven. And if they do go to heaven and they do get saved, most of those Christians won't cling to or receive the promises of God. So if you look at most Christians, it is a very narrow margin of people that believe that Jesus heals today. Yep. And that he heals every single time.

Very narrow. Very narrow. But it's the same thing with prosperity. Very narrow. So as long as you understand that. And in this, what we're talking about right now, it's also very narrow. Most people will live in delusion with their walks with God, They'll live in compromise, maybe not saying compromise, but the very things that live just enough in the Christian world to get them into heaven.

But they'll live a very broad walk with God when if you lived a narrow walk with God, you would be eating the meat, not staying on the milk. That makes sense, right? Yep. Do you want to add anything to that real quick? Yes or no? No. Nope. Cool.

First Corinthians 1311. It says when I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child, but when I grew up, I put away childish things. You look at most Christians today, they act just like the world, and they act just like children. They get offended like children. They don't get their way. They behave in deplorable ways.

Literally, we had a pastor one time that was on staff with us. We took pictures for staff pictures. and he didn't like his picture and he called me up, yelled and screamed at me. This is a man that was in his 60s. Screamed and yelled at me and told me that if I used that picture, he was leaving the church. And he was doing one of our, a ministry for us at the church. Screamed and yelled and then told me,

if I use that picture, he and his wife would be leaving the church. Are you on the meat or are you on the milk? I'm glad I always confirm with everybody that they like, their photo. That's crazy. Okay, there's nothing we could do. He looked like his photo. There's nothing we could do. How do you explain that when you are, like, when you're standing in front of God on the day of judgment, you know what I mean? Like, is that, you got that right. And you saw how bad that picture was. That is like, you can't, like, you can't even make the stuff up. No. Like, what did you even do? Did your mouth just drop? That's, that's wild. Well, me, I'm like,

I literally was like, okay. I've heard some wild things and I've experienced some wild things that takes it. I think that might be my favorite one. Oh, really? If you saw him, you'd be like, we can't help you. There's nothing but he's doing. You know what you would have loved an AI photo of himself on Facebook. I bet it.

Oh, I can show you. But literally, there's nothing you could do. That's like, so for me, I'm like, okay, well, I said I'll do what I can. but for me I was just like, like, sir, you think you are this stellar, like. I feel like God protected you from something with that.

That one. No, he didn't. They didn't leave. Oh, they didn't? No. Oh, my gosh. They didn't leave. Okay.

They got an earful for my husband, but they didn't leave. Because he basically, when he found out about it, he was like, you of all people who have had a church and have had people treat your wife and you a certain way. You of all people should have known

not to act and behave like that. You know what it's like to be in this position and you're going to behave like that. Are they still in ministry? No. No, he was like in his 60s. Yeah. So he's already retired.

Okay. He was retired, but he was leading a Bible study. Right, right. And so because of that, you know, and it was just, it was, but it goes, but when I grew up, I put away childish things. and most Christians don't put away in each thing childish.

Right. They act. Like, they, they, if you would have told that man, he's on milk, he'd be like, there's no way, I've been a pastor, I've done this, I've done it. Then if you weren't, you weren't on milk, then you would never behave like that. Yeah. Or maybe parts of you can eat meat and then other parts of you are still on milk. I don't know.

Like people literally live in a deletial. But I do know him and he was very much like that. Yeah. So I don't know. His wife wasn't much better either. Yeah. And they probably fed each other. Yep.

And the other part is too. Like a lot of times, a lot of times depending on what you do for a living makes you believe that you're more important than what you are. or you hold, if you do, if you have a gift or a talent or a skill set, then you automatically think you're up here and everybody else is down here. Sorry, you're not. You're not. And that makes people behave a certain way too,

because they then think that certain people are beneath them so they can act a certain way towards them. It doesn't work like that. It doesn't work like that. So we're going to talk about the things that you get to put away. If you are, if you're eating milk, or let me see, moving from milk to meat, comfort, maturity means you don't always get to do what feels good. You choose obedience over ease and you do the right thing even when it's inconvenient or not seen. That's a big one right there.

Yeah. Because a lot of people, unless people see them and they can thank them or they're acknowledged for it, they don't want no parts of it. True. They don't want to do it. unless they get paid, and then if they get paid, they'll do it. But if it's something that has no kind of acknowledgement of any kind for them, monetarily or personally, the motivation to do it drops. What's great is, you know what, I wasn't even saved.

I can tell this story because it happened when I was like, I don't know, 22 years old, something like that. I remember, like, even though I was a reprobate, I was God awful. And I mean that sincerely. I remember seeing this man with his little girl walking to the school bus and it was torrential downpour. And that little girl was drenched. And I don't know.

He couldn't afford an umbrella. I don't know. He was like a single dad or something. And I'm sure he felt terrible. And I needed my umbrella. I was in my car. and I was going to go to the parking garage, but the parking garage,

I still had to walk like a mile and a half to my job. I was going to need that umbrella. I remember saying to myself, I should really give that man my umbrella for his little girl. And obviously I did. I ran to them, gave them, and I got wet drenched, but I gave them the umbrella and they used it. And I remember saying to myself,

don't tell anybody you did that. Nobody needs to know. That's between you and you. It's not really you and God because I really wasn't. You know what I'm saying? But I knew like some things are better left unsaid. Yeah. Keep it to yourself.

If me as a reprobate knows not to do that and just let do a kind act without anybody knowing about it, don't be a baby. Yeah. Get off the milk. Like that's ridiculousness. Does that make sense at all, girls, what I'm saying to you? Yeah, and then your reward is in heaven. You know what I mean?

Well, I wouldn't even have gotten a reward in heaven. But the fact of the matter is, is we as our Christians will get your reward in heaven. And it's going to be so much better than the pat on the back here on earth. Because it says to do things quietly, not seeing so that your reward will be greater in heaven, which is what you're saying. Yeah, literally. Yeah, Vanessa and I do ministry together, and there are so many times that I don't even know the stuff she's doing. Yeah.

And she doesn't know the stuff I'm doing unless it comes out because we're talking about something. And like we don't feel like we always have to be like, oh, so just so you know, like I did this. So that we're one-uping. That's gross. Yeah. I literally half the time I have no idea what she's doing unless it's appropriate, you know. So you can even do that in ministry with somebody you do ministry with. And you would think that is kind of a thing, a one-uping thing.

You can do it with your spouse, and that's even better. Yeah. Like there's a lot of times that I don't know. what Tom's doing and Tom doesn't know what I'm doing. Yeah. And our family's blessed by both of us just quietly doing things. Yes. Yes.

You'd be shocked. But a lot of times, even in marriage, if you do something, like there are so many times Tom has done stuff for me and I had no idea until later on. I saw it. And I was like, that was so dang nice of him. I can't even believe he did that. That's so sweet. I do the same thing for him.

Your family's blessed by that. So do things for one another. without even letting each other know about it so that you get some props from them. Yeah. And then there's times that neither one of us know that each of us did something for each other and we don't get a thank you and that's okay.

Yeah. But it makes you die to yourself. True. Because I feel like one is performative. You're doing it just to perform or to be seen and the other one is like surrender. Like you've surrendered your life. And so it's just out of the overflow that you do these things.

Yes. So it's two different heart posture. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. It's the only way I know. There's no other way. There's no other way. Sorry.

Before the word posture, heart posture was around. Two different heart conditions. I don't like it. Gosh. Doesn't feel right. Thank you. Doesn't feel right. Two different motives.

Yes. Two different motives. One is. yucky. Yeah. And the other one bears fruit. And you know it's so funny is everybody hates the word narcissists. But the fact of the matter is, is everybody has a little bit of narcissism in them to the degree in which they have it. Yeah.

Is the degree in which you like are carnal. Like how carnal are you really? Right. How surrendered are you? Mm-hmm. Are you putting your flesh to like, we're some. supposed to die to our flesh every day, right? Take up your cross every day.

How surrendered are you? Yeah, I don't think a lot of people are because I just don't think a lot of people are mindful of their walks with God throughout the day. They're just getting by to get by. And then they sprinkle a little bit of Jesus juice

on top of whatever they ate, eat at that night, you know? True. And he's the end of the day, if that. through maybe a little bit in the morning if you get lucky with a daily bread devotional you know it's bigger than that yeah it's bigger than that you can't be on the meat if you don't if you're not consuming a lot of Jesus it's just the way it is because it'll be in the way that you walk

talk and act in your home in the community in your church yeah because the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks Yeah. So what are you filling yourself with? Well, a lot of times too, there's a lot of yap, yap, but there's not a lot of follow-through. So your actions are the follow-through, and they actually are, whether or not you believe what you're saying. And that's the other problem I have with so many. It's they love to like jar my ear with a lot of this and that, but nothing that they do is what they say. And it's like all this.

time and so many people because people it's like the word says don't be a hearer of the word but be a doer of the word it's that scripture's in there because lots of people are great hearers they don't do they're great and they're great talkers yeah so next one is being easily offended my word immature believers react i'm just going to read through really quick so we can catch up Believers react, but mature believers respond. I always say, always be on the offense, never be on the defense. Yep. Always.

If you're on the offense, you'll always, always, your countenance will always be like calm. Resolute. Yep. Because an offense has a plan. They're not responding. Like a defense has to respond to what the offense is doing. Correct. But if you're in the offense, you're on the strategy side.

Yep. Boom. Yep. And you know what dark. you're going, you just got to make sure the other side is confused and doesn't do what you're, do you know what I'm saying? Being on the offense is way different. Absolutely.

I like that. And when you are mature, you stop needing constant validation, emotional handholding to win every argument. That's pride. So many people need to win every argument. That's not being humble. You learn restraint, spiritual shortcuts, maturity. cost you hype without substance, microwave faith, which is way most people live. Yep, here and now.

Emotional highs without depth. Understand that. Like, most people live. That's why the word is very clear in James, not to be like a wave driven to and fro. Because you'll expect to receive nothing is what it says. So when you have emotional highs without death. Yep, like you are, there's nothing constant about you. You are unstable. You'll stop chasing experiences and start building endurance, blaming others. This is a big one. People always, back in the day, my kids, when I would, when they would get in trouble about something. And it was like just one of them. One of them did something. And that one would be in trouble and the other one be in the room doing whatever. And inevitably, one, one, of them would always say, but she does this or he does that or he made me or she made me.

Okay. That's what adults do, though, on a whole other level. Yep. They compare themselves among themselves and they justify their actions because somebody else did something. It's not, you ain't going to work with God. You're going to answer to him and he's not going to care what your neighbor did. Right. And the reason you did what you did.

True. You're going to answer for you and you alone. children behave like that not mature adults not godly Christian women and men they stop saying and this is this one listen guys that I don't know I think I got to this you stop blaming others and you stop saying if I had better parents yeah right when you're 40 years old and they're not alive anymore you can't blame them anymore right But so many people act like the justification for their actions is because of the way they were raised or the things that were done to them when they were a child. And I'm talking about not just with parents.

I'm talking about you went to school and you were bullied. So now you're mean, hateful and nasty to everyone because you were bullied. When are you going to let that go? You're not being bullied now. And these very same people would say in other instances with other people that feel like they're owed something, these same people that feel like they can act any kind of way they want to because of how they were treated, they would say to the people that feel like they're owed something because of something that happened a long time in the past, they would be like they're owed nothing.

But you're doing the same thing. It's from a place of hypocrisy. if my life circumstances were different as another one. Like just because somebody else has more than you means nothing in the big scheme of things. It doesn't allow you to act and behave a certain way. You rise above. You do what it takes to get to their level if you want their level.

You're not jealous of them. You just say that's a goal. What do I got to do to get to? to where they're at because I like what they got. I don't want what they got. I want my own. That's what a mature person does. They don't cover what somebody else has.

They are like, they applaud them, they congratulate them for getting it, and they go, now what do I got to do to get that? Correct. Right. But that's not what a lot of people do. No. They bash, they question, they tear down that very person or people that have something that they that has something that they want and they talk bad about it to either make them feel better

but also out of a place of jealousy. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Totally. Which I think everybody's been there to a certain extent. I mean, everybody has done it and everybody that has really anything worth anything has been on the other side of having it done to them. It's not fun. Want to add anything to that? No. All right. Keep going.

Keep going. Well, we added a lot last time. But certain relationships, you may lose some, and that's just the facts. Listen, I walked away from friends. When I decided to get my life right with God, I knew that if I stayed friends with these people, I would not be saved. Right. Bad morals corrupt good character. Sometimes in order to go from the milk to the meat,

you may have to leave your friends that are toddlers behind. That's usually the case. That's a hard thing to do because they're going to say, I'm still a Christian, but you're still unequally yoked. If you want to get to a certain level, then you hang around the people that are at that level and you act like they do. You don't act like the baby because they're not going to want to hang around you.

Because you're un-unqually yoked with you. Right. I see this in youth a lot, like especially they, the younger ones that come in. Like some of them get it and then don't want to let it go. And then the other ones get it, but they let it go. And so they realize like they can't even be friends because it's like they're, it's like oil and water.

Right. One day they're good and the next day they're bad. And this one's being consistent. And it's like too much for this new believer to keep up with the up and down, up and down, up and down. Yes. And so and they feel bad because they were friends before. So.

And when you understand that you become the average of the people that you surround yourself with. You get picky. You absolutely get picky on who you have in your circle. And I'll be honest with you. I love it. And I don't say anything usually. I keep my mouth shut.

But I love it when I see Christians striving for more. And I don't, excuse me, I don't mean this mean in any way, shape or form. But I love it when I see. people wanting more in their gifts and their talents and their callings and they know in order to get them more they either need to set a standard with the people that they're with or they need to go beyond them. I love when I see that and sometimes it's sad because I see these people having to make new friends or be alone. Yeah. You know, because it does happen. Sometimes you got to wait until the right people come around you.

It's not always like for me. Like I walked away from all my friends. I was very lonely for a very long time. I had to wait to find baby Christians and then I grew from there. But it's a beautiful sight to see when you see people growing spiritually and they're getting out and rising above

the people that they stayed with that just want to stay the same. They're just happy right where they're, at and you're like, no, this, I want more. Yeah. And sometimes they're going to be mad and they're going to be bothered that you're doing that. That's a hard thing.

That's a pill to swallow that. And in the rare occasion, you have these people that are like, okay, I see what you're doing and I want that. And they rise with you. Oh, yeah. And that's really cool, too. You know what? The thing is, is if it's a really great.

friendship and we have seen this I mean it does happen I've been a mystery for 20 plus years now it's rare it's rare it is rare because usually people are hurt and offended because they now are saying you think you're better than me true it's not that but the ones that are either not thinking about going to the next level but they see you and you they see like you're like like uneasy about staying where you're at and you're like I'm ready to go and I'm ready to do more or whatever. If you have surrounded yourself with people who are actually truly like-minded,

you will actually spur them on to do the same, which is awesome when you do see, because I have seen groups of people. Like when we were in the old building, man, our old worship leader, man, he like took off. And when he took off. off, he took people with him. And they were growing leaps and bounds. And they were like, you know what I'm talking about. It was a beautiful sight. And then one person, one person can ruin it.

And they did. And that one person took almost all of them with them. So you got to really be picky and choosy about who you surround yourself with. And you discern it. Because when you're growing, Satan's going to come calling. He's going to. to try and destroy that. He wants you to stay a baby. As long as you stay a baby, he has a better chance of pulling you back. It's the parable of the sewer. If the seed doesn't grow very much, it's weak.

The stronger the root, the harder it is to uproot. True. What does spiritual maturity get you? And this is where we start off. Stability. When you are spiritually mature, you are stable. You are not easily shaken. You're not easily moved.

Yeah. You don't have to go with the trends and you don't have to listen to opinions. And that's a powerful thing. My favorite people to be around are stable, consistent people. Yeah, me too. Me too. Like, they're my favorite. Because you know what you're always going to get with them.

Right. It's why I love Taco Bell. I mean, she's not wrong. Am I lying? No, that's true. But I would have never thought that. Taco Bell's pretty consistent. Yes, it is.

So consistent. You know what you're getting. Unless you talk to Aaron, and Aaron's like, no, he loves Taco Bell, but he's gotten sick from Taco Bell. I have never got sick from Taco Bell. Not me either. No. But I didn't eat it every day like he did for a very long period of time. I mean.

That's sketch. Hello. Vanessa House. Do you eat it every day? Every week, once a week. Oh, once a week. Well, that's not much. He ate it every day.

I'm having it right after this. Oh my gosh. It's our Friday night meal. Oh my gosh. If I ate that when I would be speaking, I'd be burping up Taco Bell. That's disgusting. That is disgusting. Just keep that in mind.

Maybe if you're praying over me tonight. I ain't talking to you. You might belt on me. I'm going to smell. She's going to smell like tacos. Yeah. Mexico. But yeah, back to consistency.

Those are my favorite people to be around. Yeah. Because their choices and their decisions are always... Right. They're not a toss to and fro. They're very sound. Yeah. They may miss it and mess it up, but they're quick to fix.

They'll own it. And own it. That's true. Right. And like for me, I'm like, I love those people too. Because I know what I'm going to get every single time for the most part. They're very, very, very wonderful to be around. Discernment.

maturity will get you discernment and you'll recognize truth without needing a crisis to teach you it I like that one I've always been that type of person like Lord let me learn this without a hardship gosh like I will I will I will so like I'll learn it through somebody else's hardship yeah a wise person looks at what somebody else did and say I ain't doing that that's been in my head for a very long time and I try to learn that way I really do like I watch other people make really bad decisions and the ripple effect of it and I'm like, nope. Not me. Not for me.

Not worth it. You know, let me just tell you those who love drama. Yeah. A drama free life is a sweet life. Yeah. It is a sweet. I've lived the drama life and I've lived the drama free life. I think in Tescelonians it does to live a quiet life.

It's a stable life. Yeah. Very stable. Mm-hmm. It's a boring, consistent, like, And the way the world thinks, it's boring and consistent. But as a believer, it's biblical. And it's freeing.

And it's peaceful. And there's joy. Yeah. And when you don't have drama, you can literally be in your home and laugh and joke around and have conversation that leads to nothing but more good conversation. Can I share this? Yeah, please. It's first, Thessalonians.

Is that how you say that? Thessalonians. Thessalonians. It was close. 11 and 12. And to make your ambition to lead a quiet life, you should mind your own business and work with your hands just as we told you so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.

There you go. What's that scripture again? First, Thessalonians for 11 and 12. And is that Amplified Classic? That is? Don't tell me the message. No, it's not. NIV, okay.

I know. All right. It's the one that pulled up. Yeah. It's the one that pulled up. No, listen, NIV is not horrible. Yeah. I know a lot of people think it's the devil in disguise, but it's not horrible.

That's the message. The message is the devil in disguise. What? What are you talking about? It's beautiful and poetic. The red ring. It's exactly what it is. It's the most beautiful rendering.

Stick with an Amphi classic. Do you want me read it? Can I find it? Oh yeah, go find it. Okay, I will. I'm going to talk about the next one, but we're going to go back to this, okay? I bet it's amazing. Peace, because we only have five minutes.

Peace. And you'll have peace, not because life is so easy. Okay, because the Bible is clear. We'll face many trials in this lifetime, but the word says, but I will deliver you from them all. but in the midst of trials and tribulations, which the word says we will, you'll face many trials in this lifetime,

but through all of those trials, you'll be walking in peace. It's absolutely positive. And the reason is, is because your roots are deep. Yeah. Your roots are deep, and your walk in your fruit is in the spirit.

The more that you walk in the spirit, the deeper the root, and the more peace you walk in because peace is a fruit of the spirit. So you can't help but to exude it and you can't help but to walk in it. It's not possible otherwise. Did you find it? Yes. Stay calm.

Mind your own business. Do your own job. You've heard all this before from us, but a reminder never hurts. We want you living in a way that will command the respect of outsiders not lying around sponging off your friends. I like it. I like it. Yeah. Not bad.

Not bad for the message. that's good oh my gosh i was watching a podcast uh last night and the podcast was with uh these two black guys and these four black girls and it was about why do black men choose other races to marry and date instead of black women because black women don't like it yeah and one of them said it's because white women, oh, how does they say it? White and Hispanic women won't express themselves. They won't like, this girl like literally made a fool out of herself because she was like, because when I come home and if I don't like something, I'm going to, I'm going to like make it clear. I'm going to challenge you. I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that. And like,

basically you're going to work when you're going to work. come home from work. And the guy goes, after you guys all said you want a strong black man. Yes, we do. You want a king, right? Yes. And I want to be their queen. Yes. Well, that means you submit to the king. And yet, after I, you've told me you want me to provide for you, you want me to protect you, you want me to take care of you. And then you tell me, after I've worked all day, you want me to come home and work some more. But I can have a white woman or Hispanic woman who won't do that, that will love the king, still be my queen and submit to her.

I'm going with the white woman or the Hispanic woman because your work. Nobody wants to work when they've come home from work. The other girls are going, one girl over there was like, double portion. I'm like, I do that. I know that.

I'm Jinzi. I know that. I was like, good point, dude. I know. I mean, hello. He's like, why would we come home from work? to work. She's like, because I got something to say. And he's like, yeah, we don't want to hear it. He's like, you need to shut up. Is what he said. We don't want to hear it and you need to shut up.

I was like, wow. That's fair. That is fair. She said nothing. Like, point taken. You're shutting up. Wow. Hello. Hello. Hello. I don't know. Because apparently, like, it's a big, it's a big rage right now. It's a big problem. Okay. big problem in the black community. But like, because I think like not in the South, like in the South, it's really not. But in up north, it's a big, I mean, it's a, it's not uncommon. I mean, it's so, we all know we're from the North. But it's not abnormal to see white girls with black guys.

Yeah. Or Asian girls with, or Hispanic, interracial with Hispanic. All cultures are dating all cultures. It's just like so common. My white girlfriend, blonde hair blue-eyed, is dating a guy from, I think he was from Iran or something. I mean, it's just common. It's like he ended up marrying his cousin.

Oh. Because he was allowed to marry her. But. Oh. Yeah. The girl's cousin. Huh? No.

The girl's cousin. No. No, no. No. He married his own cousin. Oh. They arranged marriage. He had to marry his cousin.

Okay. And this is in biblical times. Early 90s. Early 90s. Oh, okay. Well, I feel like that was like an episode on Jerry Springer. I think it was. I've seen it all.

Do you remember Mori? I do. I love Mori. I went to a filming. Did you? And it was one of those, who's your baby daddy. Oh. And I was in the crowd like, who.

Okay, that's your Springer. And Mori. Mori did the ooh, who were egging out. We were egging them on. Who let the dogs out? Who?

Who? Who? Yeah, that's what that was. That was back in the early 2000s where That was good stuff. Anyway. Back to the. Back to the.

That was good. And I wonder if black women date white women for that, or white men for that reason. Hey, listen, black women date white guys all the time. Because they tend to be more beta. And so they can control them. Oh.

I think that might be it. But I don't care. I don't care for what black women dates. No, no, no. Apparently it's a problem, though, for black women when white women date black men from this podcast. But nobody cares if a black woman dates a white man that's wealthy. It's the wealthy elite black men that are dating other races that they have a problem with

because we're taking all the good, not we, white women. women, all other nationalities, not just white women, are taking the black elite successful men. Interesting. They can have all the white men they want. I don't care. How that it? Or not. My white man.

Huh? Not my white man. Yeah, I'll kill somebody if they touch them. That I will die for. But I'm just saying. Like, who cares? Like, the people are whatever. But that girl is doing this.

She totally agreed. She knows. She knows. Shaddyville. Yep. Authority. Let's go back to this because we only now have, we're over two minutes. Let's get this thing done.

Let's do it. I'm almost, I'm not almost done, but I'm close to me. That's okay. We're going to go fast. Let's just do this. Yeah. Go ahead. We're listening.

All yours. All ears. Authority. You stop begging God to do what he's already empowered you to walk out. And I think that when you walk in authority, you know who you are in Christ. And in order to know who you are in Christ, you have to know your identity. And the only way to know your identity is if you're a mature believer. You're not.

You're not on the milk. You're on the meat. When you have to raise a child up, what are you doing while you're raising that child up? You're teaching them who they are. I mean, that's what I did with Tommy and Norma. Because if you don't, the world will. Yes. I made sure that they knew they were the best and they were the cream of the crop.

And as a person who's on meat, you already know that. You're not learning that. It's already there. Why don't people want spiritual maturity? Hebrews 512, New Living Translation says, you have been believers so long now that you ought to be teaching others. And instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic thing. Maturity removes excuses.

And a lot of people want to live with the excuses. Like, I don't know. I'm still learning. I'm still figuring it out. What's another one? That's just where I'm at. Right. You can't say those things

when you're a mature believer, when you're on the meet. Those excuses leave. You have to figure it out. And then you have to do course corrections when you're at the place of, I don't know. You know that's not a viable excuse, so you better figure it out.

Why did I do that? How will I never do that again? So when you see compromise come your way and you actually compromise, not sin, but you compromise, you go, as a mature believer, you go, oopsie, Daisy, that was a mistake. That can never happen again because we know if we compromise, it leads us to the sin. An immature baby doesn't even know compromise will lead to sin. They're just a twig on the river of life. You can't do that. You know better when you're a mature believer. And listen, the thing is,

is there's a lot of people that like to pretend they're mature believers, but you ain't fooling nobody like we said earlier because you will do the compromise. You won't recognize it for what it is. You'll blame somebody else and everyone around you will know they're not solid. Mature believers will. The other babies will be like, yeah, I know. I totally get it. I did that last week.

Right? It won't be any different. But a mature meat eating believer, goes, with discernment, goes, that's a baby who thinks they're a meat eater when they're a milk drinker. It's a big thing. And then the milk drinker wants a ministry and then is offended when you tell them no. What is that? Always. Always. Let me skip. Let me see. This is a true statement. Many people would rather feel justified than be free. Okay. And when you're a mature believer, you are free. I don't know how to explain it.

I don't know how to explain it to you. It's like when you first get saved, you realize, you're like, oh, my gosh. You realize the bondage that sin has when you walk away from a sinful lifestyle and you walk into a Christian lifestyle. Now, there are things that you're required once you walk into that Christian lifestyle. But when you're newly saved, like, I know, I remember the overwhelming and elated feeling. that I had. It was like you want everybody to have it. Well, if you stay a baby Christian, that feeling will fade. But if you become a mature believer, that feeling continues to grow.

True. It's because of the learning and the life-changing that you experience. Do you guys want to add anything to it? It causes you to eliminate having the victim mentality. Okay, when you mature, when you're mature, a lot of times people, when you're a mature believer, the part of the freedom that you experience is by letting go a lot of things, and you have to let go being a victim. And a lot of people use victim mentality as an excuse for their behavior. Yep. And you can't. Nope.

You can't say that, because this happened to me when I was, you know, 10 years old, this is the reason why I, do it. A mature believer has left that behind. All things have passed away. All things become new. You know the word, so you know that's left behind. It can't exist. Let me see. You let go of control. You surrender. And one of the things surrender does is you become a sacrifice, and a sacrifice is dead. You can't get up off the altar. Sure. So, and that is very freeing, very freeing when you surrender all to God, because that means you trust him in all things. Yep.

Most of the people that I know that are, you know, most of society is very anxious. Very anxiety-ridden. And a lot of times it's because of their lack of trust in God. Oh, yeah. because they have not fully surrendered. And the more mature you are in your walk with God, the more surrendered you are, which means the more you trust him.

And you just know that nothing by any means can hurt you. Let me keep going. You guys want to add anything to that? No, keep going. This is good. And I only have gone eight minutes. I'm going to, I think I'm just going to, let me see if I have a thing.

I'm talking about this kind of tonight, but this is the one thing that I'm going to close out with. If you are a person who eats meat versus somebody who's drinking milk, you are going to understand when I say this to you. Because when you are a mature believer, I gave three things in what it demands. If you are a mature believer, you will be these three things, okay? you'll be consistent, you'll be disciplined, and you'll be obedient. Yep. If you're a mature believer, you will be these three things. And if you say one of those three things that you are not, then you're not a mature believer.

Are you hopefully going in that direction and you do it more consistently than you did before? Yes. Then you are on your way. But a mature believer, on the whole, walks in this. these three things every single day, which means your emotions, your feelings, and your opinions mean nothing. They have no value. And you never give them any value.

Because once you do, then those three things disappear because you are using the other things as a crutch for milk behavior. Does that make sense? That is a word right there. Very good. And if that's what you're bringing tonight, I'm ready. Oh my gosh. Like tonight's, like, I think tonight's going to be one of my favorite.

Yes. Like, I'm not kidding you. If this is a preview. Because it has spoken to me. Yeah. Like, what tonight I'm going to speak on, God has been wrestling with me about, which most of the time, like people who are presenting a word unless they're arc based. But if somebody is presenting a word and God is actually given it to them, they didn't copy

and paste it, it's because God is working on them with it. You preach best what you need to learn most. Or he's helping you get onto the other side of it. Because some of the best messages I've ever heard from pastors are ones where they're on the other side of it. And it was a tough walk getting to the other side of it. But when they got there, they were like, whew. Now let me tell you how I got there.

Yeah. Yes. Those are great. I can't say that this is tonight, though. You're in process. I'm in process. Yes. But it's great when you can hear somebody go to where you want to go. They're on the other side of it and then they tell you how to get there.

Yeah. Totally. 100%. Now what I said here in my last notes is then I truly mean this. I hope this lands for whoever is listening right now or future realistically listens. But this is truth. Many people prefer inspiration over transformation. Come on.

Come on. Okay. And I'm just telling you, if you want to, to stay on the milk, then that won't resonate with you. But if you want to get to the meat and your walk with God to be like better and bigger than you ever dreamt, let that be you. Let that be you. Because it's all possible. All things are possible to those who believe. Even when people tell you you'll never amount to anything or God can't use you because of your past, that's all lies. It's all lies. All that stuff is junk.

And when you realize it and you know who you are in Christ and you know the things that he wants to do in you and through you, then you'll prefer inspiration over transformation. Or you will prefer transformation over inspiration. God bless it. Fix it in my head. Man. I know. Oh, that's so good. Because, you know, inspiration is very drama to me too.

Don't you think? And it's fleeting. And it's fleeting. And it's fleeting. the fleeting thing. It doesn't sustain. Always want to be, like, I'm going to say this and I'm going to, we're going to get off. But I will tell you this. The most common thing today in the Christian realm is inspire me, inspire me, inspire me, inspire me, make me walk out of wherever I'm at feeling the biggest and greatest.

And like all, all things are possible, right? Yeah. But they never tell you how to get there. Come on. They just tell you that God is this and God is that. How do we get there? And this is for you. And this is the roadmap. up. But there's no. And you walk out feeling great and you've emptied your pocketbook or whatever you had in your wallet into the bucket. But about two days later, you feel like just like you did when you walked in because

you were never told how to be transferred from one place to the next. How do I transform myself to the other place that I'm trying to get? Man, that's so good. And if you're listening and you weren't planning on coming tonight, change your plans. Change your plans. Because the word that is brewing in this woman right now, I feel the anointing right now. So, yeah, change your plans. Make your way here because it's going to be lit.

Yeah, it's going to be good. It's going to be good. I'm going to be in the back going like this. Look for us in the crowd, hope. I'll do it with you. We might start a trend. We will. I love you guys.

Thank you for joining us. If we don't see you tonight, there is child care. But if we don't see it tonight, we'll see you on Sunday either live, in person, or on streaming. Thank you for joining us. Bye.