The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #10: Cobra (1986) & Action Jackson (1988)

Episode Date: September 5, 2020

Brian and Nez are back with another exciting show for you action fans. This week the guys bring you two classic action films for the 1980's. First up the 1986 Sylvester Stallone shoot'em up crime film... COBRA. Then on to 1988's Carl Weathers action crime thriller ACTION JACKSON. Join The Action Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and X: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In America, there's a burglary every 11 seconds. An armed robbery every 65 seconds. A violent crime every 25 seconds. A murder every 24 minutes and 250 rapes a day. All right, welcome back to another episode of The action return. Episode number 10. Brian, and of course,
Starting point is 00:00:49 always with me. His nez, what's up, Ness? Yo, man, what's going on? We just got through all six films, a mission impossible. Thank you all for listening. And I'm kind of
Starting point is 00:01:05 Tom cruised out right now. Good to get something else in. because I was just Tom Cruise was on the brain constantly I fell down the hole of watching all the extras on everything I was like yeah all right I'm good
Starting point is 00:01:28 no Tom Cruise movies for a while or at least until Top Gun comes up when does that come out which one Top Gun a Maverick or whatever I don't know they pushed it to next year so I don't know exactly I think late next year
Starting point is 00:01:45 all right well it's good to do all those got those out of the way for all you guys so thank it again for listening and on to something new so what do we got first up we are going to talk about is 1986's cobra
Starting point is 00:02:05 so what do you do to the last look for trouble society is breeding a new kind of criminal. Captain, look, I don't want to do it. You're all I just want to get involved, all right? It's also breeding any kind of cop. You're a disease and unicured.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Stalone is Cobra Rated R. Open's Memorial Day weekend. Quick synopsis. A tough on-crime, is that what the hell does that mean? A tough on-crime street cop must protect the only surviving witness to a strange murderous cult with
Starting point is 00:02:49 far-reaching plans. This stars Sylvester Stallone, Brigitte Nilsson, Rennie Santoni, and Brian Thompson and many others. This is directed by George P. Cosmatos, if I
Starting point is 00:03:05 said that wrong. I apologize. He has worked on Rambo First Blood 2 and Tombstone. Screenplay is based off of something Stallone, written himself. I thought it was based off
Starting point is 00:03:20 a novel, Fair Game. This is what I got off of, uh, he might have, I think it originally was based off something else, but I think he took it and made it his own, because you know, you know Stallone's got to get writing credit off of everything. Did you ever see that movie Fair Game? I think that's it was called with was it
Starting point is 00:03:45 Billy Baldwin and Cindy Crawford I think that's it's It's been years I probably ain't seen it since the 90s I saw it because everyone said Cindy Crawford got naked And I heard it was a body double so I felt cheated I again
Starting point is 00:04:02 I can see the poster but I don't remember that movie at all When did you first see this one? Um, I probably saw this when I was a kid. Uh, probably, um, I'm, I'm, I'm the youngest one. I'm, well, other than Phil, I'm one of the youngest one on, on the team here. So I was probably like 11, 12, because, uh, my pops introduced me to a lot of action flicks. And if, if, if I liked this movie with Stallone in it, he, he would like, he would tell me, oh, I try this one, try that one. And, uh, I probably saw Cobra when I was real young. And it,
Starting point is 00:04:43 what fascinated me about Cobra because it wasn't just an action flick. It was kind of a, it was a kind of a horror slasher because of the, the cult in it. So that, that kind of drew me more to it as
Starting point is 00:04:55 being one of my, uh, this is one of my favorite, uh, not the favorite, but one of my favorite stills on movies. Did you see this on cable or did you see it in the theater? Uh,
Starting point is 00:05:08 most likely cable. All right. Well, I'm, uh, the second oldest guy. on the crew right after Lance. I saw this in the theater.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I know Mike and I went and seen it, but I can't remember exactly who I saw with first. I know me and Mike saw it again later after it hit, but I remember seeing it the opening weekend. At this time, and we already knew who Stallone was because of the Rocky films and Death Race 2000.
Starting point is 00:05:43 When he was what? Machine Gun Joe for Turbo or whatever his name was and that. So we knew who Stallone was. So yeah, like you, my dad's the one that introduced me to him, mainly dealing with Rocky. And so I was like, oh, yeah. So, but yeah, first blood and all that was already hitting already. So he was already deep into being an action star. So we went and seeing this.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I remember going to school and seeing the. the poster standing it going Friday night Friday morning when I was standing at the bus stop the bus stop was right in front of our movie theater and I remember looking at the poster talking about it with my buddy and we both kind of hey man they like ripped off Terminator with this poster because Terminator was like I wouldn't say I don't want to say the first but it was for me it was like the first time I saw a gun with like laser sighting on this pistol so we're like oh man I mean there was a lot of rip off after Terminator did that poster there might
Starting point is 00:06:48 have been some before so maybe Terminator ripped off someone else but I remember there was a lot of films that whoever the star was was always holding a gun on their poster so I always thought this poster was cool I remember Mike had it on his in his room on the door I actually had to go pick this up last night I had it I have it on DVDs, so I was like, oh man, I didn't want to go dig through all my DVDs to try to find it.
Starting point is 00:07:20 So luckily I was at Walmart and there was. I was like, oh, sweet. So I picked up the Shout Factory, scream factory, whatever it is. So I didn't really dabble into too much of the special features, except for one that dealing with Brian Thompson. He is getting old,
Starting point is 00:07:41 like we all are. But he's been in a ton of stuff, man. Yeah. This was probably the first film that I had seen him in and then realizing who he was. I remember him in Three Amigos. He was also on Terminator in the very beginning. He was one of the punk rockers with Bill Paxton.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I believe he was the one that got his spine or something ripped out. I remember he was an alien nation. That movie with James Kahn. he was in that horrible mortal combat too we'll do mortal combat i don't know about the second unless we just have to but um yeah and geez he he he's appeared in a ton of things because he's got that
Starting point is 00:08:31 face like oh that's a guy from cobra that's the first thing uh that comes to your mind oh he was also uh was a buffalo bob in uh uh jo dirt when he was looking for his parents. Oh, yeah. He ended up in that little well. But yeah, this guy's had a big career. And, yeah, like I said, when you see Brian Thompson on screen and anything, you just immediately go to Cobra when he's the night slasher.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Stallone, yeah, you got to love him. Marion Cobretti, he's awesome. Rennie Santoni, he played Gonzales. he's in appeared in a ton of films I want to say he was in a couple of the one of the Dirty Harry films I remember him in that one Sean Penn film Bad Boys
Starting point is 00:09:22 Did you ever see that one? Oh yeah With uh What's his name? Clancy Brown Yeah Yeah So I meant
Starting point is 00:09:30 What was he? Oh he was Viking in that one And I remember the black guy with him was Tweety Is that all Blu-ray? I wonder if it is I don't know I just if I don't have it So I know I got it on the DVD, but Brigitte Nilsson. Yeah, she was hot and everything, but this would go around watching it.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I'm sure a lot of you have already realized it, but I just kind of realized she cannot act. No, she can't. Is this when they got together in real life, her and Stallone? Was this before Rocky 4 or after? Let me check. because I remember they had were they married or were just dating yeah they were married for a while I want to say they met in Rocky 4 but I'm not sure Rocky 4 came out the year before okay so that that's probably where she's in this
Starting point is 00:10:25 yes um I mean I thought she was hot and everything and uh and then she just started to pop it up in all kinds of the red Sonia I saw that but I don't really remember it at all. We got to review that one. Yeah, I remember Arnold was in it. I don't even remember the storyline at all. Again, you see a lot of people in this that also have been in a ton of other films. When we get to the next film, that was just full of 80s.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, it was full of like, I don't know their names, but I've seen them all through the 80s and 90s actors throughout that movie yeah um yeah i got so much more to say about that film we'll stop until we get there uh but on the real everyone i could not wait to do this episode i just i don't know why but um i love doing every the the first nine episodes we've done this has been awesome doing the show brian and i but this one i just couldn't wait i mean watching this uh this morning and just laughing and just remembering of when I saw this in the theater. And it's just,
Starting point is 00:11:39 this is just pure 80s goodness. The story isn't really that, that big of a deal. I mean, it's just, Stallone's this tough, uh, balls to the walls cop.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And it, there's this, uh, serial killer going around. And, uh, Stallone, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:57 his character, uh, Cabretti, he's like, there's, there's more than just one. Because everyone thinks it's just one killer. Well,
Starting point is 00:12:04 all the, the, the cops, in this. And so, because, but he finds out later on that there's, well, he always thought that there was more, but then he, once everyone started coming after him. But the beginning scene, we got at a supermarket, we got Marco Rodriguez. He's the, they just call him supermarket killer.
Starting point is 00:12:27 He's the guy on the motorcycle that just wakes up hating the world and then just rolls into this supermarket, I think it was like the king market or something like. that and just starts blasting everyone for for no reason quick question before we dive into this one the only problem i have with this oh bridgetneilson just can't act but she's good to look at the the new order or whatever they were calling themselves that this killer cult did you want more explanation from that because of the little quick scenes we see at the beginning and then a few throughout these guys with the hatches and the axes clinging them together.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah, I definitely wanted more of that because if you go back and look, there's like regular like guys with shirts and ties like clanging, you know, hatches together. So this kind of tells you they have members that are walking around in everyday ordinary jobs. And, And that that always intrigued me to see how big this organization is or this cult, not organization, but cult. And that's why I always kind of wanted a sequel to this one.
Starting point is 00:13:47 So did I, because I remember, yeah, like you said, you see guys with business suits. I mean, everyday white collar workers or whatever you want to call them. But then you see all the other guys is just the biker-looking dudes and all that. So I assume the guys in the suits were the ones that were running the show, but we just never got to know who they were and why they were doing what they were doing other than they wanted to create a new world. Because the first guy, Marco Rodriguez, the supermarket killer. I like that guy. He's another dude that you see. And he's been in like a billion movies.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So he's got that face. That's that one guy. Same thing. That's the guy from Cobra. And it's just you get all these people in there. So but it was good, man. I liked what was happening in it. The action was just good 80s action.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You never run out of bullets. Your cars are indestructible unless they flip over. So I loved all that. It sucks that they just. trashed Cobra's car. I'm not a car guy, so I don't really know what kind of car that was, but if you guys have seen
Starting point is 00:15:08 this film, you know how just rough and tough it looked. So, but yeah, you get this guy that just don't know why he just goes into this supermarket and just starts shooting up things and then taking people hostage. Watching
Starting point is 00:15:26 it this time, I was just looking at all the product placement. Pepsi, Coors, and all the other just snacks and everything. And you know what? I've seen this movie a million times, but I just realized that this whole film took place in December because it was right before Christmas. Mm-hmm. I was like, I just messed and never noticed it because also they show a Toys R Us
Starting point is 00:15:53 a Christmas commercial. I remember that clearly. So is this a Christmas movie? I guess we can say it A holiday movie It's during Christmas time Okay I'll go with it
Starting point is 00:16:08 But what did you think of the killer Got a little Supermarket Biker guy in the beginning Oh I loved I love this whole scene You know It just It kind of just
Starting point is 00:16:19 You know You felt the tension Throughout this whole scene You know You didn't understand What he was really doing there You know He had the little
Starting point is 00:16:28 explosive with him and I remember just being as a little kid I was shocked at the one scene where he tells the one guy he can go but then he shoots him in the back as he's leaving and I was just blown away by that and then just how the scene finishes was Stallone which first you know they they got to call the cobra they got to bring them in from this was it the zombie squad yeah I I need more like, what is this zombie squad? Are there more guys like Cobra? Because I need that movie too. And just, you know, and then you got the one asshole cop that just don't want to work with him at all.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And yeah, and this is the conclusion of the scene. You get that, not even the conclusion. You get that one line of, you're the disease and I'm the cure. I love that. Yeah, the asshole. Like with all these movies, there's always. always is one asshole cop that star and that's Andrew
Starting point is 00:17:32 Robinson. That's the actor's name. You guys remember him as Larry Cotton from Hellraiser. But for me, I remember him as a scorpion from Dirty Harry. And plus he's been in a ton of other things. But
Starting point is 00:17:47 we also got Art Lafleur. You guys might have to remember him as Babe Ruth in the Sandlot. So that every minute, no matter everything I've seen him in even way before I've seen Sanlop when I see him on the screen I just think of Babe Ruth
Starting point is 00:18:03 but yeah man that that whole scene was intense I mean especially like you said when he told that guy he goes he goes you can go you're free and then he just like just barely walks along and then you see him put
Starting point is 00:18:20 bring his shot got down then he pumps it and then that guy just says fuck it and just starts running the whole scenes in slow motion I remember like sitting there. Even watching it this time, you're like, you know, we know he gets shot, but you still like, you, that little bit of hope that he can get away this time. But I was like, man, I was thinking he should have just dove and just slid.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'm not that, I mean, I've shot guns and I've shot shotguns. I don't know how far that blast has gone, especially it was a sought off shotgun as well. So, yeah. I know the, the little, the, little buck shots or whatever just it spreads so I don't know I mean it seemed like it because he pumped in two of them I went one first one hit him in the back and then he when he slammed into the aisle and he pumped another one into him before he fell into the Christmas tree so but yeah that was pretty ruthless man I was that was tough but I mean I
Starting point is 00:19:20 just love once Stallone shows up you better call the cobra then here he comes just I want to know how much time went by before he even got there because he got there pretty quick and he goes in and starts just, well, what's going on? And that's when they tell him, that's just some asshole that woke up hating the world. And then he rolls in there and starts looking around. I love when he gets on the little loudspeaker, hey, dirtbag, you're a lousy shot. I don't like lousy shots. And then you get that old speech.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And yeah, this is, I'm a soldier. I'm a hunter. This is the way of the new world and whatever his little rhetoric he was spitting out. But I just, it was cool, man. It was, it got more intense because he had hostages. It looked like it was a girl and another couple girls sitting there and sticks that shotgun in her neck. Hey, I'm going to kill her. I got a bomb here.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And he's just a little, a little makeshift, a little pipe bomb he had. But it'll still do his damage. It blew him up in those two girls, but I loved how Stallone just comes flying in. I don't know how he got into the meat locker, but hey, it's a movie. But he comes in. I love Stallone. Don't get me wrong. I know he's made a ton of good movies and he's made a ton of crap movies.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But this one, I mean, I don't know. I loved everything in this film, but I just didn't like how he came busting in. like he was all just he didn't he was just smooth and didn't care like he didn't he knew he was gonna save the day because i got to do he though go ahead i don't know what do he spins around and he just standing there all cool and he goes i'll kill her man he goes no get the get the news in here and he goes i don't deal with psychos i put him away but he says it like all nonchalant everything and i was like so too much confidence for you. Yeah, man. I mean, the part that made me laugh the most during this scene is
Starting point is 00:21:29 when, before he busted in there is when he just took that little, a little banquet beer, a little coars, little warm cores at that and drank it and then threw it out. But the scene ended good because he just pulls out his gun. And I don't know, I don't know how to throw knives and a little little buck knife or whatever he had. He just pulled out and he just like threw it straight. I don't know. Again, I'm not the one. I don't know how to throw knives or anything
Starting point is 00:22:02 to make it stick. But the way he tossed it, he just like toss it and it didn't even look like he gave it that much force. But then again, it's a movie. I just kind of flung it. Just underhand. Hey, just relax.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Amigo. You want to talk? We'll talk. I'm a sucker for good conversation. I don't want to talk to you. Are you bringing the television cameras in here now? Come on, bring it in! Can't do that. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:34 I don't deal with psychos. I put him away. I ain't no psycho, man. I'm a hero. You're looking at a fucking hunter. I'm a hero of the new world. You're a disease, and I'm a cure. Die!
Starting point is 00:22:53 But there he goes down and I love half to that he does that. He just goes, drop it. He gave him no time to drop it either. Just the second he said drop it, he was a do, do, do, do, do. Yeah, pumped him up and he goes falling onto the frozen meat. But that was cool, man. I loved it. And he had to do the little spin the gun and stick it in his belt.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And it's got the little marble. handle with a cobra on it. So I thought that was pretty sweet. I remember seeing after this film, seeing a lot of a knockoff guns that had that on it, as well as the knife that the night slasher had, which my cousin bought one. I still see him every now and then.
Starting point is 00:23:49 If I go to like flea markets or some guys that are just selling knives, they're not that expensive. I think that one guy was selling them for like $25 or $30. I kind of want one mainly just for because of this film just as a collector. It would be cool to just have it sitting right here on my desk. I mean, that's how much kind of just display it with the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I mean, this scene was cool. I mean, I did love it. I mean, this movie flies by like super fast because it's not very long. It's not even an hour and a half. It's like an hour and 27 minutes. So, I mean, that was the awes of the 80s. I mean, they just gave you what they got and didn't fool around with much. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I have some questions going into, I don't know if this is the next scene or the scene after, but he drives home and he has the little confrontation outside in the parking garage where the guy wouldn't move his car, so he moved his car for him. What's your problem, Sese? You touched my car, man. Get it, man, man, go to... It's been up for your health, you know? What is, pinche?
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah, so... Me. Wow. You're good. Oh, no. Clean up your act. Chiga your mother, Pinch, Otto! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah! Good trouble, man! You know, do you know. You told them, Mr. Did you notice when he rips his shirt that he had a wire on? No, I didn't. No, I need to watch it again. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yeah, because I'm like, okay, is he wired for the movie or was he wired for something else? I need to know that because they just pretend like nobody sees the wire. But it's like right there taped to his chest. Couldn't have been a microphone. I don't know. Maybe. I had better pull it up and look, because I don't know. Yeah, speaking of that scene, I do love it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I mean, you hear, I mean, you guys just heard it, the little audio clip I added. But the part that's funny about this whole scene, either these are just the weakest little essay guys to hang out or at the beach. because there was three of them and there was one of him they could have maybe he could rocky could have beat him down really quick
Starting point is 00:26:37 but they didn't even try to step to him it's like they just got all scared and then he let he tell him something about clean up your act and then tears his shirt and then walks away
Starting point is 00:26:53 I'm like who does that who just rips someone's shirt like that and they didn't even do nothing. And then when he walks away and he, I don't know Spanish, so I don't really know what he said. You Spanish speakers, it's still funny.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I remember someone told me what it was, but I don't remember a long time ago, but I love after he says, he screams at him again as the cobra's walking away, and then he goes over and just kicks his tire. And those girls in the car are like, yeah. And his buddy's like,
Starting point is 00:27:26 you tell him, say I was like oh man you just got punked hello hard in front of your cheeks and your boys we're just gonna we're just gonna disregard that his shirts just ripped open and just hanging there like that didn't even happen I don't know man uh again me and my boys would a what and then if we would have got beat up we would have got beat up but at least we would have tried and uh somebody's windshield would have been busted and tires would have been slashed and everything And my next question, he goes upstairs. He takes pizza and his gun cleaning kit out of the freezer.
Starting point is 00:28:06 He's eating a frozen slice of pizza with a pair of scissors. And his gloves on. Yeah, I never noticed that the pizza came out of the freezer. And he's just sitting there cleaning his gun and he's just cutting up pizza with scissors and eating it. And I guess that's the life of Marion Colbrady right there. When you're that rough and tough, man, you just don't take those gloves off because No, never. You just touch some, rip some guy's dirty shirt.
Starting point is 00:28:38 You just finish killing some dude in the supermarket and you go and just eat your frozen pizza with the gloves on. Really quick, this is a scene when he turns a thing. TV on and the Christmas Toys R Us commercial was on. Rest in Peace. One of the best places I used to go to when I was little. Prices were high as shit, but
Starting point is 00:29:04 it was Toys R Us, man. I heard it's coming back, but I'm not too sure yet, but we'll see. Yeah, it's supposed to be like little smaller versions of it. Just get your prices down. If any of you Toys R Us higher ups are listening, because
Starting point is 00:29:19 yeah. That in I remember they had They had cool things Especially for us collectors But prices are crazy Sometimes you just If you couldn't find it You said fuck it and you just bought it
Starting point is 00:29:35 I know this ain't the The collector's returns So well that's another show Yeah Yeah that's coming everyone The collector's return or the toys return or something We'll figure something out But
Starting point is 00:29:48 So yeah It's just more of a newscast Yeah, there's been another killer in the night slasher, and they just still have no clues on who it is. So we go to, we're jumping all over everyone. So the next thing is this is when we're introduced. No, no, no. They, some ladies just driving down the street,
Starting point is 00:30:10 and then we see some shady looking guys in a van, and they go up and they kind of follow her. She goes under this bridge. actually that's the bridge where they filmed Terminator Oh really? Yeah with that scene when Kyle Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor are
Starting point is 00:30:32 Running away from Terminator and they go crashing into the wall Well no they stop Terminator go slamming into the wall That is the area where that happened But anyway Some useless information everyone But anyway so they kind of That lady in the car stops And then they kind of bump into her
Starting point is 00:30:50 And then she's like, oh, what the fuck? And then this is when one of the ladies gets out of the cars. What's the matter of you? How did you guys hit me? What are you drunk? I don't like this lady. This lady's scary because of this role. What is her name?
Starting point is 00:31:04 I think it's Lee Garlington. Is that who it is? Yeah, that's her name. She's just creepy in this film. Because when that lady, what are you guys drunk? And she goes, yes. And they're like, she's like, what the is. Is her last name a play on thing?
Starting point is 00:31:20 because it says her last name is stock. I. Is it a play on stalker? I don't know. Maybe. We'll get to her in a minute. There's some other things that are full. Spoiler alerts, if you guys haven't seen this, we're spoiling.
Starting point is 00:31:37 We spoil everything on here. You guys should have seen this. It's like a billion. Yeah, spoiler alert for a movie that came out in 86. Yeah, so, um, yeah, so that she's like what? And she kind of looks in the rear view. and she sees some guy with an axe and then she's like, what the fuck? And this is when the night slasher, Brian Thompson comes in with that badass knife with the,
Starting point is 00:32:00 look like a spike brass knuckles and a huge blade. I don't know what it is, but that knife is tough. If you guys don't know what I'm talking about, just look up Cobra knife. Put that in the Google search and that's one of the first things that pops up. Ian, they end up killing her. And this is when we're introduced to Ingrid, Brigitte, Wilson's character. She happens to just be riding by and see that, uh, what's going on because the night slasher guy is standing in the middle of the road. And she like,
Starting point is 00:32:29 steps slows down, looks, sees that something shady is going on. He's standing in there. Then she like just punches it. And, uh, that one lady, uh, the crazy looking lady, she's like, uh, get the license plate. And so that he just kind of looks and she goes driving off. Uh, then we, oh, then this is when we realize that one of the killer ladies she, because you see her typing on the computer types in the license plate and then the camera goes back and it's
Starting point is 00:33:00 that one of those, the Nancy Stock is her name. We find out that she is a cop so Cobra Eddie was right he's saying that there was more than just one person. Yeah and I was a little this is maybe maybe I'm just realizing now a problem
Starting point is 00:33:17 because when you get introduced to her as a cop, she seems like a regular patrol, you're not even a patrol, regular desk cop. And then later on she is, I'm jumping a little bit. Later on, she's part of the team that's going, not undercover, but going to the safe house. And I was kind of wondering, was there more people in the department, or is she just able to put herself into a higher position. You know what I mean? I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I figured that maybe she was, that was like the last days of her being a desk jockey or just being a flat foot. Because yeah, she, they just, from going from a desk right to working with, to detect homicide detectives. So maybe she put in and she just got it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So it helped. with their plan for forming the new world. So I don't know, but yeah, I thought that too. I even thought that, I thought that this time watching it. And then I remember sitting there with my theater like, how the hell does she get so high class or a step up in the police department? Don't want to think about it. It's a movie, everyone.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So yeah, so that's, they figure where out where she is. and we just when we find out well they there's some more police talk uh the higher ups are telling uh cobra and uh gonzalez like hey man you guys need to really find uh who this is because uh we can't have any more killings so um we get this montage of uh finding out that uh brigitte nielsen uh's character ingris she's a model and i fast forward through all this i had seen these seen a million times. Yeah, she looks hot. You didn't want to see
Starting point is 00:35:17 the modeling slash going to every tattoo shop looking for a tattoo? Yeah. Oh, yeah, because no, she didn't talk to the cops yet. No, I'm talking about, oh, that's right. That's another montage. I'm getting my montages mixed up. Yeah, it was because
Starting point is 00:35:35 she didn't talk to the police yet. So whatever she saw that the night, the night before I guess, when she saw those the night slasher and his crew. So there's this big old montage and some 80s music jamming in the background. They show her modeling with robots.
Starting point is 00:35:54 That was so weird. Yeah. They show Cobra and Gonzalez trying to just drive around L.A. looking for leads on the thing. So that whole montage is over with. We get, I want to say, did you ever watch this show,
Starting point is 00:36:09 Sledgehammer? I want to say yes, but I'm not sure. David Rash, Rache, I think that's his name. He's been in a ton of movies as well, but I remember him in a, I think it was sledgehammer. I guess I'm in the 90s. Let me go into the 80s. Was this him in that? because he's been in a ton of stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But I remember him having his own show. Yeah, okay, yeah, he did. He had a show called Sledgehammer from 1986 to 1988. I mean, other than all the other things I've seen him in, but I just remember that show. It was like a comedy cop show. But he's the photographer, and he gets all little, borderline rapy
Starting point is 00:37:10 because he's talking to her like hey you want to come over to my house or you want to go have dinner and she's like no I'm tired I just want to go let's can you please stop sexually harassing me me to hashtag me too I mean I'm saying that for real I'm not saying that
Starting point is 00:37:30 as a joke everyone but um because he's like you know this will help your career and I was like damn different times everyone in the 80s I mean that's how a lot of the from the the documentaries and everything I'm seeing now there was a lot of that lot of what's that Weinstein guy a lot of that going on she she didn't want to get Weinstein so she was like come on just I want to go home he's like ah come on come on just just begging for it
Starting point is 00:38:05 but she ain't having it. They go down into the parking lot of the building they're in, and we see that the night slasher and his gang are down there, and they're kind of hiding in the shadows. And she's like, oh, man, I forgot my bag. And when she turns around and that guy's like, well, I'll go get her for you. And this is when someone comes up behind her sledgehammer with an axe.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And she's like, ah, and then he takes it to the chest. It didn't look very good. It was just like he just hit him with it. I wouldn't want to feel that and I wouldn't want to know that pain getting hit in the chest with an axe. So she goes running and screaming and all those guys are chasing her. Quick little flashback scene. She left her bag in the hall and one of the security guards grabs it. So he kind of rushes down there to be the nice guy to bring it to her.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He comes into the parking lot and he sees all kinds of shit's going on. The night slasher and his gang are chasing her. He pulls out his gun pops off a few rounds misses completely and then this was a rough looking stunt Yeah, either that was a dummy or what do you think that was really a stunt guy that got hit? I I hope it was a dummy because the impact of that van into the what was it the elevator? Yeah That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:33 so I mean if it was an actual stunt guy might you know hats off to you man because that was one hell of a stunt because that van was that band was traveling fast and hit hard yeah because it hit him he goes disappearing I assume knocked him back into the elevator through the closed doors if it was a dummy all right but I don't know I mean it looks like that was a stunt man standing there this I think it just called him security guard. I wonder if he is a stunt man. Let me click on it. His name is Ross St. Philip. I don't know. They don't say much about him. He's only got a couple rolls.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I don't know. Well, whoever this gentleman was and he if it wasn't him, maybe he was just acting but maybe there was a stunt guy that took it. But yeah, that was a lot of force from that van slamming into that dude. His egos flying back into the elevator. So he's
Starting point is 00:40:35 dead. um did uh did police come is that why they all took off yeah because he's uh basically he's about to come out start coming after her again and then they hear the the siren so they leave okay and she uh she's hiding under a car or something yeah because i think she like jumped down a level and then she was yeah she's hiding behind something so yeah so the the cops scare them off and they all take off and this is when she is in the hospital
Starting point is 00:41:11 and Cobra and Gonzalez are questioning her and she's just telling him what she saw and this is that she kind of did she bring up the she thinks she saw something the other night or was that later on the police station
Starting point is 00:41:26 she brings it up and then they do the whole sketch thing which I would have to say that is the worst sketch artist ever but it looks just like him I mean, yeah, I guess. I mean, Brian, Brian Thompson, he's got weird bone structures.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, weird bone structures, features of his face, like his, I don't know, high cheekbones. I don't know. When you see him, you're like, whoa, he's, like, intimidating. Like, I wouldn't want to see him in a dark alley. So whoever drew that picture was obviously supposed to. to be cobra or Gonzalez whoever but uh whoever did that drawing man I to me even watching it today that looked just like Brian Thompson so anyway so that was a the quick little sketch that they did so so all right well you just stay here and uh well uh will uh will protect you because
Starting point is 00:42:25 Gonzalez was supposed to stay there and watch him and uh cobra goes well I'm going to go uh run some things over at my house and uh with uh this picture there was all the things that he has at his house. So he goes, all right. So he goes, taking off home. I love this scene because he comes rolling up and the essays are still out in the front. And he just goes, er-uh, honks and they move forward. Yeah, hey, right on.
Starting point is 00:42:54 We got you, bro. Did you realize they were listening to that same song again? Did they? Yeah. Is that the only tape you got? did so of that that was funny though because they like he just i don't know again man maybe they hatched it out and they were cool but no man i they should have just tried to fight him again but they were scared and they just moved forward so he goes in he starts looking around at all
Starting point is 00:43:22 stuff and everything and then he gets a phone call uh no no no uh then we kind of get uh some little scenes with the night stalker or the night slasher and that Nancy stalk chick and she's like telling him she's gonna ruin our new world and we gotta kill her and everything so they know she's in the hospital
Starting point is 00:43:45 so this is when you see the night slasher like was he dying his hair black with ink or something? Is that what that was? Yeah, it looked like shoe polish. Yeah, whatever it was. He was just trying to because I guess he had blonde hair and he was just trying to black.
Starting point is 00:44:02 How'd you feel about his disguise with the glasses? I'll get to that in a second. I have a lot of problems with that. But anyway, so he kind of disguised, greases his hair up. He goes into the hospital, and he sneaks in there. And he's hiding in, like, at a little supply room or something, because that one that I assume he's a custodian, he comes. in a little small guy little nerdy glasses uh brian thompson at this time in in 1986 probably
Starting point is 00:44:38 in 1985 he is a big dude like muscular and that guy was really super skinny and small and he stabs him and kills him and then he takes his his uniform and it it follows no but I just noticed that this time. Like I've seen this movie a million times and never put two and two together right there. I was like, there's no way he could have fit that guy's clothes, but it's a movie. So he takes the janitor's clothes and puts them on in his glasses and grabs the mop and everything. And he goes up and, uh, well, I guess, yeah, they knew what room she was in because the Nancy chick.
Starting point is 00:45:27 She was a cop. so she knew yeah she knew where she was so he goes in there this this part was kind of a little scary because when he's standing in the elevator
Starting point is 00:45:40 this one a nurse gets on this is this one black lady she gets on and uh she's like you guys are supposed to take the service elevator this is a health code violation and she's like yelling at him
Starting point is 00:45:55 and he's just like looking at her then you could see him stick his behind his back ready to just pull out his knife and kill her but she ends up getting off and gives him a little tongue lashing really quick and then I was like damn um but let's let's just say he did kill her I mean what was he going to do I mean just leave her there and get off the elevator and hopefully nobody was on on the floor but the movie yeah so he gets out and he finds the room and he goes into her room
Starting point is 00:46:30 kind of like in a Halloween 2 when Michael Myers came in and was getting ready to stab Lori in the bed but she wasn't there so he's like what because he's about to kill her he's like pretty woman or pretty hair
Starting point is 00:46:41 or whatever he said and then he realizes she's not in the bed and then she comes walking out of the bathroom and she goes back in there and those cheapy doors hollow doors he likes to start stabbing that knife through it trying to get her and kicks the door in and almost gets her because she's trying to get out.
Starting point is 00:47:04 There's another door in the bathroom and it must lead into somewhere else that had the total fire violation had all this other medical gear up against the door so she couldn't open it because she was trying to force it. Looks like he would have got her too because he was she was if she wasn't pushing on that door, he could have probably stabbed her and got out of there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, but when all this is going on, we flashed to Stallone, he gets a call. And it's Gonzalez. And he goes, hey, and he goes, I'm in your office. What do you want? And he's like, what are you doing there?
Starting point is 00:47:38 What are you doing there? He's supposed to be in the hospital. And they said, you wanted me to come here. And we'll get back to the hospital. Then they go racing back over there. As Cobra goes running out, we got some of the new order, new world guys with their axes. I don't know how come nobody had guns. Well, they had guns later, but
Starting point is 00:47:58 they start swinging axes at him, and then this is the whole big fire fight and he's kicking ass. Did he pull his gun out? I don't remember, because I know he was fighting him for a second. He kills the last guy when he shoots him like
Starting point is 00:48:14 eight times, and then he falls over the balcony. That's right, because he lives on the top floor, because once he pumped in with some, with a few rounds, he goes, ah, he falls probably like three or four floors. Yeah, and listeners, real guy falling.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Real stunt guy. Did he fall onto some or did he fall like behind something? He fell, the car was blocking and they just did the sound effect of him hitting the pavement. Oh, man. I mean, I like some of those scenes, because some of these movies,
Starting point is 00:48:48 when they do that, you can, uh, when, whatever they land on, those stunt guys, you can see the, them kind of bounce up.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But they always add that sound effect, like them splattering on the ground. So they go racing back to the hospital. But Brigitte or Ingrid, she gets out. This is another problem I had with this film. Catching all the little things that I never saw before. She goes running down the hall screaming,
Starting point is 00:49:17 somebody help me, pounding on the desk, because the hall is empty and it's dark. And she goes- Typical movie movie hospital. Yeah, I mean, especially in L.A., which is probably one of the, in a major big city is probably tons of people in these hospitals. Not like in Haddonfield and Halloween 2 when nobody was in there. But that hospital is like here, the town that I live in, I remember when my wife had one of the kids, I remember walking through the hospital and nobody being around.
Starting point is 00:49:50 They just reminded me a Halloween 2. the original Halloween too not that bullshit that Rob Zobby did anyway so she goes running in the hall screaming and then she breaks the fire alarm and you realize how many people filled that hallway instantly
Starting point is 00:50:04 was like I don't know it looked like hundreds of people I know I'm like it looked like there was multiple people in each room it was like all these doctors and nurses and orderlies and patients all came out what's going on what's going on and I was like
Starting point is 00:50:22 nobody heard her screaming for help like seconds before but once you hear the alarm you all come running out but the movie everyone um i think they did like they overdid it with the people in the hall they did i doubt there would be that many people in every single room but it's a movie so the nice slasher he ended up getting the hell out of there so he uh he got out no nobody caught him so this is when
Starting point is 00:50:51 this is when she ends up at the hospital not the hospital at the police station and then Cobra gets tongue lashing from the higher ups and he keeps telling them he goes look he goes it's not just one person
Starting point is 00:51:05 I keep telling you guys that and they're still not believing them well Babe Ruth he he's kind of Captain Spears Art LaFloor he's kind of like believing him but not really
Starting point is 00:51:18 it's the other dude detective Monty. He is the one that's being the asshole. Yeah, because he believes him to the point where he's going to allow him to take her to a safe house that he only knows about. So they like do that. And this is when she's, he's kind of telling, we're going to take you to a safe house. And we just got to get you out of the city.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So we're like, oh, okay. So he loads up in his badass car. And as they're leaving, it's uh oh this is when they're introduced uh we're finally introduced to uh i assume she was the detective at this point uh detective stock because she comes in and goes yeah she's uh going to come with us and uh we realize it's that that lady that's a part of the the new world or new order guys so they're like oh whatever i mean they're they're kind of they at this point they don't know
Starting point is 00:52:12 didn't know she was uh down with them they're like all right so she jumps in uh ingrid jumps the car with a cobra and Gonzalez and stock are riding in a car behind them and uh as they pulling away from the police station you got uh the the nice slasher and his crew like parked right across
Starting point is 00:52:32 the street waiting for them because like they know because of stocks has given them all this information so they go driving off barely made it a block away and those dudes come hauling after them and uh take a shot
Starting point is 00:52:46 and I just I love car chases, especially when they're real car chases, not the fast and furious stuff. But I just love that. They're hauling ass somewhere downtown L.A. Guns, shotguns,
Starting point is 00:53:02 flying everywhere. But once they get on the freeway, this scene, I love no matter how stupid it is, and everyone's like, no, no, that can happen. It can't happen. It's Stallone. He's hauling ass and he's like, hold on. And just does like a
Starting point is 00:53:18 180 in his car and I don't know what kind of machine gun he had. I don't know what that was, but he just holds that out of the side as he's driving in reverse. And then guns up that car. And then he flips a 180 and punches it and takes off down the road. Oh, man. Do you like real car chases? Yeah, definitely. And what they do to this car
Starting point is 00:53:47 hurts my heart every time I see it because I love this car ever since I've seen this movie when I was a kid and it is a custom 1950 Mercury and looking it up right now apparently they had more than one that they wrecked filming this movie they had to because
Starting point is 00:54:08 I think once they got off the freeway they got back into a parking lot. Well, no, before that, I think it was before the scene. But anyway, I'm jumping all over with his car chase. But anyway, he's in a parking lot. The bad guys are on the first level, and Cobra and Ingrid are on the second level. And they're like basically just going the same direction. And then the bad guys haul ass and get out back onto the street.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And I love this scene. I mean, of course, they had multiple cars because it's, that heavy-ass car probably bottom fell out. Axles broke everything because he goes flying off the second floor, boom, crashes through. And then halts it. I love when they do that type of stuff, especially when it's real cars. Because you know when they do those jumps, it's just that's it. That one jump in the car is done, especially like if you guys are fans,
Starting point is 00:55:11 of like Knight Rider or mainly the Duke's a hazard and they had like a billion general lease because every time that thing jumped and came down on the front end you just see the front end fold but then was driving off brand new but I think out of the stunt there's another stunt in this we'll get to that second but when that car goes flying down and lands and then goes hauling ass so the night slasher is in the back in the back seat and There's two the other two guys are in the front and they're just trying to get away from them Again, I don't know much about guns, but I know damn well this can't happen There is a semi-sem-a-sum-gash truck a
Starting point is 00:55:56 A semi-holding two big gas tanks and one with a little space So they go crashing through the tank the two between the two tankers to break the locks. I guess And then they, as they go through, the night slasher hangs out of the back. She shoots out the back window. And with a shotgun, a little sawed-off double barrel, I believe. Boom, shoots out, hits one of the tanks, it blows up, then shoots the other, those big two gas tanker trucks on fire. And of course, man, Cobre, he ain't no fear, man.
Starting point is 00:56:39 You drives right through it all. That stunt was even awesome. But again, there's no way that little shotgun blast could have caused that much damage. Unless maybe if they were standing right in front of it and did it, I don't know. But that car was hauling ass pretty fast. And I don't think those pellets and those shotgun shells would have penetrated that tank in order for it to explode like that. But it's the 80s and anything can happen. They still hauling ass down the road.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I love this scene. This is another stunt that I love. I don't know what street this is. I know there's little bridges that are going over these little water canals, but it's like bumps because the cars are just jumping these run and they're just fucking hauling ass still. I love it. That last jump in a cobra, he takes that jump so high. And from what I understand, they said this was an accident.
Starting point is 00:57:40 He just jumped that stunt. driver just punched it too hard, hit that last hump, and did, sh, took out some lights. I thought that was pretty sweet. Where do I don't remember? Where to go after this? I don't remember. After the, the chase scene was done? I mean, after, because they were still, well, obviously they got away. Oh, no, no, no, he flipped his car. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. So that, what kind of car was it again? custom
Starting point is 00:58:10 1950 mercury yeah so that thing's because after after he flips it we we never see it again it's done yeah but then he rose up in a tight little old school Ford truck which I like those old fords not so much the new ones but the old ones when they were
Starting point is 00:58:28 just like steel trucks not this stuff they make them today but so yeah they're like well that shit that uh that plan didn't work uh let's go back to station and regroup because then I think by this time they do
Starting point is 00:58:42 realize that there's more than one because they seen them all plus there was witnesses. Gonzalez they just left them in the dust they didn't even get into the car chase. Yeah, I don't know how good of a partner Gonzalez is
Starting point is 00:59:00 because he never seems to be around. No man, I mean, because he was there in the beginning and then they just like the hauled ass and must have lost him somewhere. And I take it there is no police radio in his car because he, he gets a leaseman.
Starting point is 00:59:19 All right, I'm on this road. Come help. Not in Coburn's car. No. I did love his little seat belts. They're like those racing car things. And you needed those, especially the way they were flying through the air
Starting point is 00:59:33 and driving backwards on freeways and everything. but so they regroup again and they go all right this this is the time when COBRA go like yeah I got I'll pick the house and only we know
Starting point is 00:59:48 so but same thing again we get Cobra Ingrid Gonzalez and the police lady stock to go with them another little montage of them driving through the
Starting point is 01:00:01 outskirts in the coastal California a lot of talk I mean nothing really important just kind of Ingrid and Cobra trying to get to know each other and they stop at this little restaurant I love this scene
Starting point is 01:00:18 because this is when we find out that Cobra his first name is Marion so I mean that was a funny scene and I just Yeah wow see that's what I'm saying I don't know how good of a partner Gonzalez is can't be giving out that kind of information
Starting point is 01:00:34 because he told he goes, look, you want to have some fun? He goes, this is something private, but he likes it. Go up and call him Marion, so that's when she walks up. I did like this line. He goes, well, you find anything new? And he goes, well, not since you were in the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:00:52 There was a few one-liner things in there, but not a lot. So I enjoy that. I guess he must leave that for Arnold with all his films. So she finds out his name is Marion, and they end up. all right well let's go they kind of eat uh burgers real quick and get back on the road they end up at this
Starting point is 01:01:11 little uh roadside uh motel and they're going to hold up there for the night before they get going or was this where they were going to go um i did i don't think this was the the safe house i think this is where they were holding up for the night so yeah so they're sitting there and um gonzalez he goes to bed Ingrid is out Ingrid uh Nancy stocked She's outside on the on a pay phone And uh cobra she kind of comes out
Starting point is 01:01:44 And uh Cobra's like hey and she's like oh she kind of He startles her And she goes I just want to let you know you're doing a good job And he's like well why didn't she use the phone in your room She goes oh it was broken Because I'm just calling the house to check on the kids Okay well you better get inside
Starting point is 01:01:59 We gotta get an early start So I think the wheels are in motion about this time because earlier in the film uh cobra was saying to the the higher-ups like look there's somebody somebody in the department is the is the mole
Starting point is 01:02:14 uh so because they know every step that they've been doing so he goes that's when he was but they still didn't believe him so I think about I think by this time he was kind of thinking that it's heard but he wasn't really sure we go back into the room cobra breaks out his uh his little
Starting point is 01:02:31 machine gun puts on the laser sighting and then there's a little lovey moment between him and that ingrid. Yeah, let me say something. I know they were married in real life, but I don't know if this is just the chemistry they had for real, or she's just a bad actor because I was not buying no romantic anything between these two. Well, from what I know, I think it was more of just a let's get down thing, and I'm going to spend all your money.
Starting point is 01:03:03 because from what I understand after the filming of Beverly Hills Cop 2 she threw like some big huge party at their house and Salon wasn't having it because he's like I think that by this time he realized that she's just spending all my money
Starting point is 01:03:23 and yeah so I think that's why he just had enough with her because she seemed all wild if you guys saw her on what was that reality show? I think it was like. Strange love? No, it was the one before that.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Uh, shit. Celebrity house or something, I don't know. Because that's where Flav and her met before they started doing the, their, crazy love thing. But she was wild and crazy. So, I think she's a real house. Yeah, I think she was just too, too crazy for Slice.
Starting point is 01:04:01 So he kicked her to do. the curb you ever see the episode where he brought her to the public enemy concert yeah to introduce her she came out on stage dancing all crazy yeah chuck and uh griff and those guys and the s1 w didn't like it it's like no hell no here we're up here uh fighting the power and here comes this big old tall blonde woman being all wild uh that's another show everyone Public Enemy, check them out. Really quick. It's the Real House.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I remember that one scene when her and Flay were in the hot tub. He was telling her he had a big dick and all this. And she was like, what? And then she reached over and grabbed it under the water. She did say, go, wow, it is big. But I don't know. That's Flay. Right off of you, man.
Starting point is 01:05:01 So they have. had the little lovey dub scene and everything and uh i assume he smashed it but i don't know and uh so he uh co well i don't think he did because he's she went to sleep but he was still sitting up um no he i think he did oh well maybe he just took a a little power nap and then woke up because he was sitting there like just i think i think he hit it and he stayed up all night on alert i don't know man when i'm he's cobra he's cobra when i'm on after i'm done man man man i'm done man i I'm out. Anyway, that's another show.
Starting point is 01:05:37 That's the sex returns. But anyway. So during the, I think it was during the night, so they were doing flashback, you see all these guys on the new order guys come in, or the new world, whatever they were calling themselves. You see them always on bikes. There was always like a montage,
Starting point is 01:05:59 because during when they show them driving to wherever they were going, they go with and see, you see bikers hauling ass down the road. So they finally show up to the motel because they go out there and look. Gonzalez and Cobra are there and they go, hey, where's the stock? And they go, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:06:18 they go in her room, she's not here. And then they start looking around. Then you see her running up to one of the trucks and pointing over to the motel. And then they're like, oh shit, this is when they realize that she is with them. And Gonzalez goes, man, I never like that bitch. and then yeah this is a problem i had with her like i don't think she needed to just
Starting point is 01:06:39 outright be out there pointing to them saying they're right there she i mean just in case this didn't work out she just blew her cover right here yeah i never liked this scene too i mean she obviously was talking to them on the phone that night and hey we're staying at the little uh hump me all night hotel or whatever it was called a lot of little roadside hotels be careful everyone there's hidden cameras in those places if you saw vacancy
Starting point is 01:07:10 anyway so they're like oh man and then it's just a huge war well other than cobra's ready he's got his little
Starting point is 01:07:22 submachine gun or whatever it is and Gonzalez his guy's a little stick shooter yeah Gonzalez I don't know if I was Gonzales man have more than just six bullets in my gun I at least have a little I would I would have
Starting point is 01:07:39 more guns period if I'm rolling with Cobra from the zombie squad I'm not having a little six shooter I'm having a trunk full of something I don't know I just some Gonzalez is starting to bother me the more we talk about him speaking of the zombie squad was he the only one or where was the rest of them that's what I was saying earlier, I needed, I need some, I need more of this. This should have been a franchise. Because
Starting point is 01:08:10 I'm picturing the zombie squad as a whole crew of people like Cobra. And I just, for some reason in this movie, it's just Cobra. And he's partnered with fucking Gonzalez, who
Starting point is 01:08:25 has a revolver. I know. He didn't have, that's all he had. I mean, a revolver. and junk food throughout this movie. That's all he had. We'll get to though. I loved all that little reaction when they were talking about food. But yeah, he's out there with his little pea shooter and there's like a whole army out there with shotguns.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And did he even have machine guns or was it just Cobra? It seemed like pistols and shotguns for the new world. And of course his custom little. machine gun that he put together that he was waiting up all night ready to use i think he was the only one that had a machine gun so as he's just just wasting bullets in every direction there was one dude there was a sniper uh he had a rifle because he was uh he had a cobra in the sights and he just wasn't a good shot because he kept missing him but uh they ended up after they're shooting there guys are flying off the motorcycles and bodies laying everywhere i don't know how many uh
Starting point is 01:09:30 a bad guy showed up man but there was a whole army of them so because cobra jumps in the back of his truck uh ingrid punches it and he's like just she's flying down the road and oh man it just made me just a hater i i've never been in this kind of situation where people are chasing me or anything but if that does ever happen which i hope it never does happen i've seen enough movies to at least kind of keep it under somewhat control with these movies and it's not just this and there's a lot of other movies
Starting point is 01:10:04 and I'm not just saying because she's a woman driver but it seems like in these films when the women get behind the wheel and they're scared which I understand these guys are all trying to kill her they just lose it and can't drive good
Starting point is 01:10:19 they're hauling ass down the road and she's just scared what do I do and I'm like well I mean we can't rely on Gonzalez because we didn't even mention he's already taken out right now well that's why he gets shot
Starting point is 01:10:33 yeah so again Gonzalez is completely useless in this movie he might have unloaded his gun maybe because he took a few hits and he was laying between those two buildings his six shots because he took some he took some shrapnel and he was just laying there so they just assumed he was dead left him
Starting point is 01:10:52 you can do better Gonzalez you could have did it better. So they're hauling ass down the road in the truck through the orchards. Guys on bikes and everything, it must have rained because the road was all wet. And everyone wants to get shot, they go sliding down the road.
Starting point is 01:11:10 So this thing, this made me mad. She kind of loses it and Cobra goes flying off the, out of the back of the bed, and just does this nice tuck and roll and jumps right. I know, it starts gunning everyone down.
Starting point is 01:11:29 It's like, oh, shit. I think this is when the sniper guy, that sniper guy came back and started shooting at him, still missing. So they ran through that little patch of trees and ended up in some big steel factor. Yeah. Did the stock get killed before they got there,
Starting point is 01:11:53 or when they were there? No, she gets killed there right before Stallone and the Night Slasher have their showdown. Does he shoot her? Does he like get stabbed with something? I don't remember. I think she gets shot. I think he shoots her. Yeah, I think she got shot in the back because he was getting ready to shoot the night slasher.
Starting point is 01:12:21 She jumped in front of it and took some, a little submachine gun to the back or whatever he went. Yeah. Yeah. And he also takes out the sniper guy who clearly should have never been the sniper guy because he can't hit anything. He gets lit on fire. That's right. Yeah, he didn't hit nobody. He just, why are you the sniper guy? He probably just, everybody was probably just grabbing guns and that's what he got. so yeah this is when we get the the the final fight between the the the night slasher and and cobra and i just loved all the the shit that he was saying to him telling him that let me just play the clip i can't remember exactly what he said well anyway yeah so that's what he said i mean just basically just yeah we're we're gonna take over there's there's millions of
Starting point is 01:13:24 us out there and we're going to kill everybody and take you to hell pig. I loved all that. Everything, every sentence he had pig. Did you, did you think he was capable of saying all this? Because they kind of made it seem like he was
Starting point is 01:13:39 a little, I don't know how to put it simple. Yeah. Because when he was coming after her in the hospital and he was all pretty hair, you know, but now he's like giving out this whole speech and everything. What does it? of the hunters we kill the weak so the strong survive you can't stop the new world
Starting point is 01:14:08 you're our filthy society will never get rid of people like us it's breathing them we are the future no it was it was kind of strange yeah i liked it but it's kind of strange yeah it was like he was like just the muscle and just kind of stupid and yeah then once once he he's about to get down, he gives him this kicks down the knowledge on him. I mean, that, but I mean, especially here in 2020,
Starting point is 01:14:39 uh, with all the craziness that's going on right now and all these. So, so called heroes with guns and everything running around that, I mean, his little speech kind of made sense. Like there's, there's people out there right now thinking that way.
Starting point is 01:14:55 We're going to take over. We're going to kill everybody. And it's going to be, we're going to have our new world. I mean, not to get political, but there's a lot of these Yahoo's out there that are thinking like this right now in 2020.
Starting point is 01:15:09 And it's not, fuck that. That ain't going to happen, everyone. So, but yeah, I mean, that, I mean, again, hearing that speech a million times after I've seen this, but listening to it today and thinking like, fuck, man, that's happening right now.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Some of you might not think so. But, yeah, think about it, man. Of all the shit that's going down right now, man, it's crazy. But yeah, I did like that speech of what he was saying. And then they had, oh, he pulled out a, um, shit, I'm thinking a mission impossible. But, uh, did he hit him with some pipes when they,
Starting point is 01:15:54 when they started fighting? Yeah, they had a whole big throw down here because, uh, night slasher had his, uh, of course, he had his knife. Did he ever cut him at all? I think he did. I think he did. It was a pretty basic fight,
Starting point is 01:16:14 but the finale is what I always remember from this movie, because it looked painful as hell. I was glad that he didn't, Stallone didn't throw in some stupid one-liner at the end, like, take a hike or something stupid like that.
Starting point is 01:16:32 but yeah man that was pretty brutal man after that big huge fight of both of them just getting the shit kicked out of each other uh luckily that big giant hook just happened to be coming by uh at the perfect time at the right time because uh stalone picks up the night slasher uh does like a texas chainsaw massacre move and slams him onto that hook and uh you dad this even this stunt i don't know if it was a real stunt guy or anything but uh brian thompson when he was on there because that hook stabbed him through the back. And his voice is like really deep and just scary sounding. So is he still calling him a pig while he's on the hook?
Starting point is 01:17:15 I don't remember. I just remember him screaming. Oh, ha! And just however in his deep voice. But then he goes slowly. And that hook is moving everyone. And for those you didn't see this film. Because it goes slow.
Starting point is 01:17:28 It goes into the fire, doesn't it? yeah and to the furnace and he gets burned alive yep so he's dead we go back out we go back to the motel I assume they walked well I guess their truck they probably walk back to the truck
Starting point is 01:17:44 and go back to the motel and we see Gonzalez is still alive he's getting he's getting put into the ambulance and he goes all right man is there anything I can get you and goes yeah I can kill for some gummy bears This fool was just eating crap, crap, crap.
Starting point is 01:18:03 I love eating crap too, everyone. Not literal crap, but stuff that's not good for your body, like candy and twinkies and shit like that. But that's all he ate through the whole thing. The part that made me laugh dealing with their food, the movie's over by now, everyone. They have happily ever after they go riding off in the sunset on one of the... He punches Monty. That's right. He gives him a good one.
Starting point is 01:18:27 He comes up, yeah, you did it, you did it. No, I would have probably done better or whatever they don't say. Then he ends up clocking him and. Which the captain's right there. And the only thing he has to say is, do you need a ride? They didn't know I got my... Nobody. Yeah, nobody cares about Monty.
Starting point is 01:18:45 No, he's just basically just standing there all days. He didn't fall down because he was still holding. He held him up and knocked him. I assume just knocked him in the jaw because he had glasses on and they weren't broken. They get on one of the New World guys' bike and goes riding off into the sunset. I don't know how far they are from L.A. and it's December and whatever part of California they're in. I'm sure it's cold, and all he had was his little shirt on, and she didn't have a jacket or anything either, but it's a movie. But the part that made me laugh with the food is when they were in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:19:26 that first time after they're done talking with her and then they kind of look at her food that she kind of just picked over and he goes oh you hungry you want something uh here try this it's something that looks like cheese and they go oh there's cake over there and they go oh wait a minute you're done with this right and she's like yeah and then they just start eating the shit that she was eating i'm like either the LAPD doesn't pay them well enough but shit and I don't know if I'd be eating somebody's leftover food
Starting point is 01:19:56 in hospital. Well, I mean, I mean, Cobra's got to eat. I mean, the only thing we've seen him eat was a frozen piece of pizza. But this guy,
Starting point is 01:20:08 Gonzales, though, man, even at the rest of, he comes out with cakes and cookies and soda. Oh, man,
Starting point is 01:20:18 Gonzalez. But, yeah, that's Cobra, everyone. This movie is awesome. Rating. I am going to give it a
Starting point is 01:20:28 I can't give it a 10 Maybe the little Niz and 86 would have gave it a 10 But I got to go with a 8.5 Yeah I absolutely love this movie This is We'll probably go through some more Stallone We'll definitely go through some more Stallone movies
Starting point is 01:20:50 But this is up there with me I'm gonna give it a nine It loses a little bit just for the little nitpicks and it loses a little extra because of I've never realized how much I've hated Gonzales until this rewired. There was other Stallone films before this one that definitely tens and I'm sure we'll get to those as well. And there's a couple, there's a couple tens after this one. But yeah, I think this.
Starting point is 01:21:21 I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I was going to say one quick thing I wanted to. ask you about that I found I was trying to look up some news because I thought I had heard something about this. Stallone is planning on remaking this movie into neither a, from what I understand, if it becomes the movie, it's going to be, it's going to play off the original one, or they just might remake the whole thing into a series. And I guess Robert Rodriguez is possibly involved in it somehow.
Starting point is 01:21:52 is Stallone's going to be Cobra again or are they going to get someone else? He's involved. I don't see how you're involved and not. I mean, he's still playing Rocky and Rambo. So I don't see why he can't still be Marion Cobretti. If this is further adventures of Marion Cobretti. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:16 But if it's like a complete remake, I always go to Frank Brutti. grillo because he's got that tough badass look that he could do it but if it's like a series yeah I think it would be more of of uh
Starting point is 01:22:33 alone but if it if they do a remake then please sly if you're listening give us some more explanation on what this cult new world order or whatever it is who they were don't just tease us with a little
Starting point is 01:22:52 montages and we don't know who the hell those guys are but um and if they have the zombie squad in there they they they have to do better make them badass the whole squad yeah you better have a bunch of them like have uh uh thor uh frank grillo um i don't know who else is badass i don't know i mean have or even have that whole crew that he had in uh uh uh was it rambo four remember when they were in burma oh when they went yeah yeah yeah all who yeah that could work all those guys man that was a badass crew he needed them in the next film but uh he's rambo he did it all by himself but um true i guess we're gonna have to tackle those as well but uh one definitely we should tackle is uh i know you guys did it already but uh i think we need
Starting point is 01:23:52 to do it here is tango and cash I love that film. So we'll, maybe we'll do a buddy cop thing, uh, with one. But, uh, anything else before we move on? No, that was it.
Starting point is 01:24:07 That was the only thing. Cause I remember hearing something about him doing something with this, uh, with Cobra. So I just wanted to touch on that real quick. Well, that's news to me. So I mean, I'm all for it.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Uh, we'll see. Yeah. And this, uh, this news came out last year. So, not that long ago.
Starting point is 01:24:24 All right. Cool. Oh, honey, you don't want to pull that shit on Action Jackson. This is Action Jackson. This is going to be easier that's off. How could you deep, you motherfucking? Oh, very good. You're right your own material?
Starting point is 01:24:44 Your ass is mine. All right, everybody. We're back with the 1988 action comedy, shoot-em-up explosion extravaganza and that is Action Jackson Jackson
Starting point is 01:25:02 What do you want from me? I want you to die When there's trouble He's got a trouble There's no trouble You can't keep this cop Out of the action I don't call you action
Starting point is 01:25:24 Anywhere Carl Weathers is Action Jackson, rated R. Starts Friday. Check newspapers with theaters and showtimes. All right. Due to the use of excessive force in arresting a sexual predator,
Starting point is 01:25:41 Detective, Lieutenant Jericho Jackson. Action Jackson. Carl Weathers is demoted to police sergeant. What's worse, the father of the man who roughed up, he roughed up Detroit, industrialist Peter Delaple Plain, Craig T. Nelson, declares war on Jackson claiming him for the murder of his own
Starting point is 01:26:01 wife, Patrice, Sharon Stone, but Jericho manages to allude arrest and with the help of a drug-addictic a drug-addictic singer named Sidney Vanity. Goes after Delaplein.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I didn't like the AMD Synopsis, so I just went with another one. not found, but Axon Jackson. This stars, said a few people already.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Carl Weathers, Craig T. Nelson, Vanity. Is it Denise Matthews? Is it Denise Williams? I can't remember her real name, but either way, vanity, rest in peace.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Very young Sharon Stone, Biff himself, Thomas F. Wilson, got Bill Duke, Robert. Is it Davey, Davy Davy
Starting point is 01:26:59 Davy Jack Ebo I think that's Abeo I think that's Abeo I think that's his name
Starting point is 01:27:05 Roger Aaron Brown Mary Ellen Trainer Edel Ross and peace yes this is just
Starting point is 01:27:14 one of the side guys he's a stunt guy named Bob Minor we also got Brian Libby and Al Leong and a
Starting point is 01:27:24 billion other guys that's in this for all of you 80s kids everyone you'll see in this movie you've seen him in something he was an evil henchman there's some guys from Predator
Starting point is 01:27:39 in this there's some guys from lethal weapon there's some guys from diehard in this as well due to one of the Joel Silver he was the producer of this film we also got Chino Fats Williams he plays a kid Sable he's probably my favorite in the whole film
Starting point is 01:27:57 and we also get Sunny Landem rest in peace he plays a drug dealer and Mr. Quick and again there's a billion other people in this film
Starting point is 01:28:09 I mean you can't pretty much everyone that comes on on the screen you'll know oh even what's his name Juana man Miguel Nunez yeah him
Starting point is 01:28:22 what was his name in return of living dead all I remember is trash I don't remember his name in it but he's in here you want a man that's I've seen it once I don't remember but you only need to see it once
Starting point is 01:28:44 but when I see his face he's spider yeah he's also um in Friday 13th part 5 uh demons that was his name. I liked him in that. He had a short role in that film.
Starting point is 01:29:00 You guys haven't seen Friday 13th part of five New Beginning. Definitely check that out. Shout out to the other guys in the horror returns when they did. What was Lance and I? We did an interview with Deborah Voorhees. Somewhere back in the
Starting point is 01:29:16 archive, check it out. All right, this was directed by Craig R. Baxley. I believe he directed I think it was I Come in Peace as well as I think one of the Turtles films
Starting point is 01:29:31 I want to say it was Turtles 2 Secret of the Ouse I haven't seen those films in a long time he did yeah see this is
Starting point is 01:29:43 we'll get back to Action Jackson in a second you guys know how we go I rest or I come in peace have you seen that one with Dolph Lungwin yeah yeah it was in by
Starting point is 01:29:53 it went by a different name like dark angel or something like that see i saw when it was i come in peace i don't know where dark angel came from but all right uh he also directed a stone cold with uh brian bosworth how we got to put that on the schedule yes because i do not remember that i've seen it uh mike and i saw and i did not remember that film at all i remember um what's his name was in Atlanta, Lance Henrickson. Was he the bad guy in that one? I think so.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Yeah, but all right. Action Jackson. This is a film that I saw in the theater. I do not remember what we saw when like that first weekend that came out. Huge Carl Weathers fans and it was finally good to see him be the main star to something because a lot of the films that he's been in up to this point, he was either more like the co-star. A lot of people know him as.
Starting point is 01:30:51 the King of Steing Apollo Creed from the Rocky films They were Chubs and how big Gilmore Yeah And a ton of other things He's also
Starting point is 01:31:09 In The Mandalorian Which is coming out Next month, October 30th Season 2 He's also in that Good to see him in that But Action Jackson We went and seen this
Starting point is 01:31:21 I think the last time I saw this is when I first seen it. Well, I might have seen bits and pieces when it was on cable, but all the way through other than this time right now is when I saw it in the theater. And I remember not being that much of a fan of it. I was like, eh, it was okay. We got to see Vanity Topless. So that was a plus.
Starting point is 01:31:46 But I just did not remember this film at all. The only scene I really remember was when I remember the vanity word, what's her name, Sidney Ash. She was a drug addict and I remember her going to see the Sunny Landham, Dr. Quick or whatever his name was, Mr. Quick. I remember that scene and that was it. I do not know, remember the story or anything else. I even totally forgot Sharon Stone was in this. And I guess I should have looked at the poster because she's right there on. but uh watching this now the uh 20 20 nez i loved it it's goofy
Starting point is 01:32:32 he i'm glad he didn't go overboard with the one-liners he started to but didn't it didn't get too bad but um for what this film is if you just want just senseless action and shoot them up violence and everything. This is the film for you because this watch, this rewatch man, I loved it. I just thought it was awesome. This isn't on Blu-ray yet, is it?
Starting point is 01:32:58 Not that I can find. All right, because I guess I have, but see, I'm one of those guys if I buy it on DVD the next day it'll come out on Blu-ray. That always happens, always. Yeah. What was this on? Stars or
Starting point is 01:33:14 I don't remember. Yeah. And, and And I feel you on that one because I just purchased the entire Rambo franchise on the, what is it, the Ultra HD, Blue Ray disc. And, and, no, I, I bought the, the, the single ones. What do you call them? The, what's the, what's the one about Blu-ray? The 4K. Yeah. Whatever, there's some letters after it.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I don't know. Yeah, I bought all those because they were all. on sale on Amazon and then they just announced that the entire franchise is going to get a steelbook set which I know I'm going to probably end up buying that one too yeah I saw that today because I saw that there was a 2001 Space Odyssey the steel book so I guess it was only released over in the UK so because I didn't see it here but and then as I'm scrolling along I see the Rambo one and I'm like I have all the single ones as well so I'm like damn it whole all of them steelbook all right I just
Starting point is 01:34:24 just got to rebuy it man these yeah they see us coming and and it looks like they're going to be individually steel book each movie into one little case oh okay I thought it was like one giant steel book and then with all the movies in it yeah so They get my money every time. Yeah, they do. They get us. I mean, of course. And of course, if this came out on Blu-ray, then it'll come out in a steelbook, and we'll have both versions of it.
Starting point is 01:35:01 But 1988 Action Jackson. Again, I just loved this film. I remember it not being that big of a blockbuster as they wanted it to be. The budget was $7 million, but the box office. It made its money back. At least doubled it, $20.2 million. So that was good. Lory Mar film, I remember the logo when it pops up on the screen,
Starting point is 01:35:29 but I have not seen that in a long time. But from what I understand, a quick little story on this film, when Carl Wethers was filming Predator, the producer, Joel Silver, he was a huge fan of black exploitation films and he wanted to do one but he didn't again I guess he just didn't
Starting point is 01:35:52 couldn't find the right project so while they were sitting there in between takes some predator uh Joel silver and Carl Weathers came up with the idea of hey I can just be a a cop and we can do this and do that and come up with the story and Carl Weathers is the one that came up with
Starting point is 01:36:08 Action Jackson and Joel Silver dug it all right we'll do it and this is what we got. Again, I didn't really care for it in 88, but in 2020, I fucking love this film. It was just hilarious. It was awesome to see, like I said, all these actors that you know. And I mean, the story is good. If you sit there and think about it. You got this corrupt businessman trying to take out all the union worker, the head of the unions. The union was called, I think it was the AWA, the Auto Workers Alliance. Della Plane, Craig T. Nelson's character.
Starting point is 01:36:50 He's just basically trying to smooge up with everybody and then slowly start taking them out. And the story between Jackson and Della Plain, Jackson was the officer, well, he was a lieutenant at the time. Two years before this story starts. And he put away Della Plain's son into prison. So there was a whole hoopla with that and actually got Jackson booted down, demoted to a sergeant. So for two years, he's just been just pissed and always didn't want to get back at Della Plain, but he knew he was doing dirty, doing dirty stuff. So he wanted to bring him down.
Starting point is 01:37:36 So that was the story of them. And then you got Delapleine trying to be basically the king of Detroit in the auto's workers union. So he's slowly just taking out his competition as well as other people that get in the way. So in between all that story, you've got all the violence and the action and everything and then in this film. So that's pretty much the storyline. Well, we'll break it down a little bit more in a second. But what did you think of it on this rewatch? Yeah, I have a confession.
Starting point is 01:38:08 When I was rewatching this, I realized I've never seen this movie all the way through because there was so much that I would just, I neither just completely forgot it or I've never seen it. Like some of the overtop action, just like you, I totally forgot Sharon Stone was in it, even though she's on the poster. I don't remember Vanity getting naked because I sure as a young man would have remembered Vanity getting naked. I will have to, I give a credit on her acting in this one. Because her as a junkie, I don't know if she drew from actual, because she had sobriety issues in real life. I don't know if she drew from that, but like she was very believable.
Starting point is 01:38:54 And I enjoyed Craig T. Nelson as the villain. It was just, it's a fantastic 80s action movie. It's completely 80s because you got Herbie Hancock, does the music for movie and it's just it's that over-the-top action that that you you remember as a kid watching these these 80s movies and yeah I loved it loved the story love seeing all those 80s action henchmen that that was in damn near every movie that came out you know they're they're all here in some way or some way and yeah completely enjoyed this one I wouldn't even call this a rewatch.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It just felt like I was watching this for the first time. Yeah, I mean, it was just, when you said Action Jackson, I was kind of like, did I bring this one up or did you? I don't remember. I would shoot all kinds of stuff to you. I think I was going to, because we just did the Mission Impossible retrospective, I was thinking about us doing a rocky one, then I was like, no, let's, uh, let's kind of get some movies in before we jump into another franchise.
Starting point is 01:40:13 And I just kind of went with COBRA for Rocky and then Action Jackson for Apollo. And I swore up and down. I watched this entire movie. But watching it, I just found out I, I've, I've neither not seen this movie. I've not seen this movie all the way through. Yeah, I mean, again, the only time I saw this all the way through was when I sat in the theater and watched it. in 88. And where I saw in the neighborhood that I live in, the theater, it's not a stereotype,
Starting point is 01:40:50 but it was a black movie theater. So it was where, it was black owned, and that was pretty much the audience. And for those of you that don't believe it, because sometimes when I bring this stuff up to my friends, you see a lot of it like, it's kind of played out in movies.
Starting point is 01:41:08 where the people are talking back to the screen and whatnot. That's not just in the movies. If you guys never experienced it, that's all real. I lived with it, and it was weird. When I got older to go to theaters where everyone is quiet, and I was like, wow. And then I had been away from it for so long. And then when I went back to the Bay Area one time,
Starting point is 01:41:33 when we went and seen like Hangover 3, I believe. and it just took me back to the old days because there was a couple in there a couple guys and some gals that just kept spouting out stuff throughout the film which was hilarious because it was it was funny but um when i saw this uh it was friday night everyone was pretty much keyed up and liquored up because you can hear the bottles and the cans are on around on the floor and you could smell the weed in the air that was that's what i loved about that theater the the owners or they just didn't care or just maybe didn't want to get into no commotion, but I remember people smoking cigarettes in there. I remember smelling weed and alcohol all the time. So everybody was having a good time in there. And man, did they go off on this film?
Starting point is 01:42:26 They were just laughing and cheering and just all kinds of things. Sometimes you couldn't even hear what was going on on the screen, but it was. was it was a good time and it made me laugh and everything so this rewatch um i only just a little bits that i remember it i yeah like i said i did not remember this story at all and my only problem i had with this film i love craig t nelson coach i just couldn't buy it him as as this big bad guy trying to be the the the king of the the auto detroit that's just why they had that whole scene where he's training with the one dude that
Starting point is 01:43:11 you've seen him and I forgot the guy's name. He's been in a whole bunch of movies. I think his name was James Liu and they're practicing their martial arts and then of course you know, Craig T. Nelson, he has to fuck him up at the end to show the audience
Starting point is 01:43:27 show the moviegoers that he's equal to action Jackson. You can clearly see that once. James Lou Yes
Starting point is 01:43:42 When you see him Man his hair Look glorious in this But this young gentleman Well at the time he was young Pretty much Anything to do with martial arts In the 80s
Starting point is 01:43:55 This and Allie Young were in Both of them were in big trouble In little China And just stuff you've seen Throughout I remember seeing them I'm looking at his IMDB.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I do remember James being in Kung Fu, T.J. Hooker. He did big, low-age little China in 86. Steel Justice. That's a film I have not seen in a long time. I don't have to dig that one up. But this guy, he's been in just so many movies, showdown in Little Tokyo, if you guys haven't seen that. The American Ninja films, he was.
Starting point is 01:44:37 was in and it's just crazy on how much this guy has done and still working today. He's a stunt man and he just pops in here and there. But he's got a face that you've seen him before in something. Again, a lot of these guys have. So, I mean, that's what I, I think that was the main thing that I really loved about this film. Even if it was someone that just had maybe a line or maybe they were just, standing there, you knew
Starting point is 01:45:09 who they were. Like, wow, this is just, this, the cast, at this time, they were still coming up, but now I mean, you know everybody in this, you've seen them in something. At least one or two of these guys have been in some movie that you just love
Starting point is 01:45:25 and you watch over and over. So I really loved a lot of the actors in this, but, I mean, the action is there. Of course, when you got a movie called Action Jackson, they got throw it at you. And they really did it. These are the days all
Starting point is 01:45:40 no CGI. This was all stunts and explosions and gunshots and everything in it. And the practical effects it was mainly just during the blood, if you got hit with bullets, the bullet shots, the bullet wounds. I thought those were cool because they kind of little, they went for
Starting point is 01:45:57 it because when you got hit with a bullet, the blood did it would just spilled out everywhere. So I did. I did love all that. But again, the story in this one, is Della Plain trying to take out all his competition because in the very beginning of the film, you got Ed O. Ross and Mary Allen Trainer.
Starting point is 01:46:16 They're part of the, what did I call that? The AWA Auto Workers Alliance. And they're just not playing ball with Della Plains. So he hires this group of supernatural assassins. I don't know. They were kind of like ninjas because they would appear and reappear it. It was crazy, but they called them the invisible men. All those guys were cool because every single one of them, you know. Some of them were from
Starting point is 01:46:46 Die Hard and Brian Libby. I remember him. If you guys have seen Chuck Norris's Silent Rage, amazing film, he's John Kirby in that. Plus he was, I think he was in heat as well. But I mean, John Leby, he's been in a ton of things. He's got one of those faces. Oh, I know that guy but you just don't know his name so they go in there they come busting through the window like the swat team and just basically just take out well they blew up uh no no did how did the the the secretary a marion and trainer get it did they shoot her or the he punched her and she died well yeah yeah but i assume broke her nose and it shot up into her brain but i don't know it was just one punch but uh edo ross they were just trying to give give a give a
Starting point is 01:47:37 leave a message to him and they basically blow him up and uh know that one dude with the crazy grenade launcher blank door or gun or whatever shoots him out the window and uh that stunt was amazing it it looked like some of it was just a dummy that they threw out but there it was a stuntman on fire it goes crashing through a window so i like my hat goes off to all those stunt guys that do stuff like this so I thought that was awesome so that's how the story begins and then
Starting point is 01:48:10 I like the little I can't remember the one character he it was a black gentleman I can't remember his name he was the little I guess crook guy that
Starting point is 01:48:27 kept getting into trouble because Biff and Biff well everyone just knows him as Biff. Detective Biff. Yeah, Biff. And I think his name was
Starting point is 01:48:42 Officer Lack, Roger Aaron Brown. Those two, they're just two flat-foots, and they see this young guy. They're like, man, they know he's about to do something bad, so they basically chase him down and take him back to the police station. But before they do that,
Starting point is 01:48:58 they're trying to scare him like, well, what are you guys can do to me? You know, well, we're going to lock you up, but maybe you're going to have a session. with Action Jackson and I what and then Action Jackson he's got this citywide what do you call it rumors basically what action Jackson does to all the bad guys so they're just trying to scare him so and then what happens oh because that that that guy get kind of gets away it gets loose in the police station but yeah because uh biff uh best trying to to get a hand job or get something from from the
Starting point is 01:49:43 prostitute that's at the other desk and then she kicks him into nuts and uh that kid sees his opportunity to run and then this just this just leads to a hilarious chase through the police station and it all you needed was like some benny hill music to this because there everybody's just falling down everywhere and then he just runs into Sergeant Jericho Action Jackson spills coffee all over his paperwork and then as soon as he realizes who it is
Starting point is 01:50:13 he just faints I don't know what it is with the 80s and police stations every time they have these type of films there's always hookers in there always they're sitting there getting booked or I don't know
Starting point is 01:50:31 it's always one big giant room with a million desks. You got some officers in the uniforms, the other guy the detectives in their street clothes and ties and cigarettes and coffee and there's always hookers in there. Yeah. Is it just me or
Starting point is 01:50:47 is there always one cop that they know like really well like by name? There's always that. I mean even like the lethal weapon ones. They all knew damn it what was Mel's
Starting point is 01:51:04 no Gibson's name uh Martin Riggs yeah I was gonna say I was gonna say Marta They all knew him As well as Detective Murtaul
Starting point is 01:51:17 They all knew They all knew them But I don't know No they were captains for a second And the fourth one Are we doing those Yeah it's on schedule
Starting point is 01:51:27 All right well yeah We'll get back to them Yeah we got a very long schedule But, yeah, back to the hookers. Oh, yeah, Biff, they just come walking and he's trying to be cute. And he goes, hey, how much for a hand job? And she goes, well, what about a foot job? And he's like, well, what's that?
Starting point is 01:51:44 And she kicks him in the balls. And that's what starts off the melee. And that little black kid just goes running away. And all, yeah, man, if the Benny Hill music was there, I mean, it would just made that scene more awesome. We're finally introduced to Carl Weather's Action Jackson. and there's again in these films there's always the hard-ass uh captain of the force
Starting point is 01:52:09 and that is uh bill duke uh captain arm bruster bruster however but he's the one that knows everything about action he's the one that knows that he was demoted to sergeant but uh jackson is he's just trying to just take down delapal because they know there's some dirt. But captain's like, just leave it alone. And he goes, man, you almost took out of son. You almost took his arm off.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Out of the one liners, this is the one I didn't. I just thought it was stupid. I do remember hearing this the first time going, that's a kind of movie it's going to be because he goes, yeah, you almost took his arm off. And then Action Jackson goes, he's got a spare. I was like, oh, really? I mean, is that?
Starting point is 01:53:01 that all you can come up with? I can't write nothing for shit anyone. I'm just some guy that talks shit about movies, but I was like, ah, I mean, at this point in the 80s, late 80s, we've already had the Arnold's and all those with the one-liners and everything, so, but that's what they tried to do with this one.
Starting point is 01:53:22 I'm glad, like I said, I'm glad they didn't go overboard with them. They threw in a couple. I mean, just enough to get some chuckles, but it wasn't like every other thing every other line from action Jackson was a was a one-liner so I was like ah okay that's the time of film we're going with um so we're then we're introduced to uh peter del plane uh Craig T Nelson and you just know he he's up to work I didn't like his silver hair what did you think of that uh it didn't bother me I mean it clearly
Starting point is 01:53:59 Like you said, it clearly looked like a different person in the action scenes with the silver hair, but it didn't really bother me that much. I don't know. I just didn't. I don't know. Well, at this point in his career, we had him as a dad in the polter guys films. And I don't think Coach was on quite yet. Was that in the 90s?
Starting point is 01:54:20 I think it came later in the 90s. Okay. So right now at this point, all I knew him as the dad and polter guys. but so we kind of see how what he's doing and he is talking about just getting to basically they were going to have a hoopla for I believe it was the head of the
Starting point is 01:54:43 the auto workers union our auto worker workers alliance it was his birthday coming up and they were going to try to just basically grease him up if he doesn't go along with a plan then we're going to accent. And I don't know about any of you,
Starting point is 01:54:59 any of you criminals out there listening if you discuss your stuff with your spouse, but please tell your henchmen and all the guys you're doing dirty work to keep their mouths shut and not just talk about anything anywhere. I thought that was kind of dope.
Starting point is 01:55:17 I know I'm jumping ahead everyone, but I'll get back to that. But anyway, so we find who Peter Delapleine is and he's going to be speaking at one of the the Union banquets I guess so
Starting point is 01:55:38 The captain tells Jackson Well we need you to go there and just be a representative for the Detroit Police Department He's like he doesn't want to so he goes there and this is when we meet Patrice Delaple playing Sharon Stone I love Sharon Stone Yeah, she's had the, she's had some bombs in her career, but this is the very young beginning of her, her career, I would say. I don't know about 2020 Sharon Stone, but 1988, Sharon Stone, damn, she looked hot.
Starting point is 01:56:15 I don't know what, I don't know what it is, but the backless, the back, the back, the backless dresses are the ones that always get me, especially if you're in shape. he's back there Jackson's in the back hanging out Dale planes on stage talking about everyone Kiss my ass And I'm gonna run Detroit And yeah
Starting point is 01:56:35 I'm for the For the workers Alliance And he's sitting And she's talking to him And he doesn't know who she is And she's like yeah She goes oh you're not a fan of he
Starting point is 01:56:45 He's and he went nope That's why I'm standing here in the back And she's like Ah well I guess you just got to get to know him And then he finds out that she is Peter Delapain's wife. So he's like, uh,
Starting point is 01:56:57 basically put his foot in his mouth. Because, uh, Del plane, all right, and here's my wife, Patrice. And then she goes up.
Starting point is 01:57:03 So he's like, fuck. So they're sitting there. And then, uh, they, uh, they,
Starting point is 01:57:09 uh, they, uh, Jackson runs, runs into Delplane. And then he's just telling them, just giving them dirty looks and telling them, uh,
Starting point is 01:57:17 I would have took you down as well, like your son. But, um, who knows what. what happened, probably something in the court systems. So we know that there's an animosity between
Starting point is 01:57:28 the both of them. Patrice Sharon Stone's character, she doesn't know anything about what's going on because she's actually the second wife for Peter Delapleplaine. Because his first wife they just said she died, but we'll get back to her
Starting point is 01:57:47 later on in the story. So actions like, I know something's happening. So he ends up going home. He has a awesome little talk with, if you guys remember the limo driver from Diehard, a, is it Devereaux? White.
Starting point is 01:58:08 He played Clovis in there. He was the kid that drove his car. Yeah. I think his name is Devereux. Oh, man, that kid, man, he's been in a ton of things as well. but I liked him in when he was the junkie and not judgment night
Starting point is 01:58:27 um South Central no trespass trespass okay with uh ice cube and ice tea and uh death and Bill Paxston what's death's name um from Bill and Ted
Starting point is 01:58:42 uh William Sadler yeah him yeah he's in I love that movie throw that on there somewhere I love that one so it's just a little quick little meet up with him so again it was good to see him pop up into this film so
Starting point is 01:59:00 actions at home just kind of kicking back he gets a phone call on his answering machine from Robert Davy his character his name is Tony Morrety and he's basically telling him um well the his answer machine is
Starting point is 01:59:16 going but then there is a um a story on news talking about which we passed we'll get back to the minute but basically someone they're bold that this there's one of the rich union guys his bolt blew up and they're also talking about errol ross and mary mary allen trainer of their characters stringer and they just name her as secretary they're talking about that that they had also got killed or they in an explosion earlier this week and then there was another explosion on his boat where one of the other union guys got uh they just said his boat blew up so they didn't
Starting point is 01:59:56 know why so he was mainly listening to the uh the story on on the news and you but you can hear the answer machine in the background and uh tony moretti is telling him like jericho man come on you you got to help me i mean i know what's going on with della playing but it's just kind of crossover stuff between the cell, the cell phone, the answer machine and the TV so you can really kind of got not really hear it, but he does say, give me a call or come see me. So he kind of just, all right, whatever, he doesn't really think about it. Let me go back a little bit because we jumped. There was a scene where there was this one of these rich guys on a boat.
Starting point is 02:00:43 That guy, I see him in a ton of things. He was also important. Poulter guys. His name is Michael McManus. He played he played he played Grantham. Another union guy.
Starting point is 02:01:07 He's one of those rich dudes on this big old yacht. He got this one of his bodyguards, I guess, and the boat captain kind of walking along talking about trying to tell him stupid jokes. Like what do you call a guy but what's the guy's name hanging on the wall?
Starting point is 02:01:23 art and stupid shit like that. And so and then all of a sudden you hear and then you see the guy telling jokes has an arrow through him and the captain's like, what the hell's going on? And he turns around. And this is when we see Brian Libby's character, his name
Starting point is 02:01:43 is Marlin. He's got one of those butterfly knives and throws it at him and stabs him and they go fall into the water. So they're like, what the hell's going on? So, Grantham's in his office on the boat talking to someone else about more
Starting point is 02:01:57 union stuff and basically tell bad mouth and Della plane and all that so they come in, they look at him. What did they do to him before he bulls up? They shoot him or stab him or? I think they, I want to say they shot him. If they did, if they shot him or stabbed him, I don't remember
Starting point is 02:02:17 but it was like he basically fell on the ground because they walk over with a little suitcase they open it up and you can there's a basically a suitcase full of C4 and the timer is like almost to zero so at this point they handcuffed him to it and like to the wall or something so there was no way you can get away or throw it away so he's like ah then the boat blows up as the boat blows up i don't know how fast these invisible men were but they were pretty far away within seconds before that bolt blew up because they show them i think it was like about five
Starting point is 02:02:54 of them in a boat looking back as the boat blows up so that was the story the news story that uh the action jackson was listening to so after that police uh or after the he finds out and everything he goes uh jackson goes back to work and he's finally just trying to figure out well what's happening and uh someone says hey man uh your friend called and like who and so he ends up calling him back and it was um tony merri and he's like dude you guys You got to come see me, man. I got some information for you. So he goes over to see him.
Starting point is 02:03:29 And then when he gets there, Tony Moretti is just like scared to death. He looks like shit and he's sweating and don't look like he's even slept in days because he knows something is going to happen to him once. He really doesn't say what Della Plain's plan is because he does find out. but Action Jackson I'm like do you need to calm down bro just I'm gonna go do this and then I'll be back And he's like all right
Starting point is 02:03:59 So as he's leaving We see a black guy That's Bob Minor His name is Gamble He's dressed up like as a UPS Delivery man He goes in there and he knocks on the door I'm ready he answers it
Starting point is 02:04:15 And he goes on I got a package for you And then he goes oh okay And then he gets blasted with them doesn't he have a one-liner it says like COD or cash on delivery or something I remember him saying that but what was the I think that that does he said I don't know I think he because he was a delivery guy I think he says like COD or cash on delivery right before he shoots him yeah I don't remember the whatever he's I remember the COD part but I don't remember the buildup to that but then he
Starting point is 02:04:48 shoots him and then did he blow up no no he just shot him and then rolled out yeah and then later uh they talk about his condition and the the coroner's office saying if he wouldn't have been shot he probably would have been he probably would have died anyways from the the lack of sleep and malnourished uh that basically they were just explaining how how his condition was before he got shot yeah so he's kind I'm like, oh, fuck, well, he knew something, and we don't know, because they were trying to say, well, the police were saying, well, it was suicide because he shot himself. And Jackson was like, well, this is, I don't know, guns and bullets, but he was basically, the bullets didn't match the kind of gun that he had, because he had, like, a revolver. I want to say a 38, because they show him holding it.
Starting point is 02:05:44 and they go but the bullets were like nine millimeters or something like that so he goes that that wasn't his gun he and why did he shoot himself in the chest so that that's how movies go he's but there's always that one friend that it doesn't believe that their friend killed themselves so um okay so he knows he kind of has this feeling that del plane is behind it um so but then we're introduced this is when we're introduced to uh sidney ash uh vanity's character. Peter Delapleine goes to watch her. He's just
Starting point is 02:06:20 basically his side chick, some little junkie heroin addict that's trying to be a singer. Well, she is a singer. But he promises her the world saying that, oh, I know people in Motown Records, they'll sign you, but here, suck on this
Starting point is 02:06:38 before I give them the call. Is that like his thing in the movie that he has to get her like super high before they do anything? I don't think he needed to, but I think as a junkie, that she knew he has it. He's got the good stuff. So I think at that point, junkies will do whatever you want, when you want and everything. But I've been a fan of Vanity Six with all her songs. and when we did, not double dragon, the last dragon,
Starting point is 02:07:16 I liked her songs in that, but this song and this one was, I mean, you heard it at the beginning of this, everyone, it was playing in the background, but the chorus, can you kiss me, baby undress me? I was like, 80s songs, boys and girls. I mean, you either love them or hate them. But I don't know who wrote these songs, but I just laughed. There's another song that it's playing later in this,
Starting point is 02:07:48 with the Pointer Sisters. No, I think that was the song in the very beginning of the film, I think. I remember is something about He Turned Me Out. I'm like, damn, man, that's pretty straightforward in these songs. The video for that for He Turned Me, I think it's called He Turned Me Out, the video with the Pointer Sisters and Action Jackson and Vanity. and it's crazy but 80 songs everyone
Starting point is 02:08:15 you gotta love him but anyway Vanity's up there singing and performing Dale playing sitting there getting his dick getting all hardy because he knows he's going to tax him in a few minutes but so this is when she goes backstage and we're introduced to her bodyguard
Starting point is 02:08:31 this big black gentleman named Ed which I loved I thought he was awesome in this so he's just telling her what she wants to hear about the Motown guy and all that and you know but I know what you want and um I don't know I guess it was kind of more of an upscale club because it didn't look all seedy or anything so but I guess when you're the star you got to have a bed in your dressing room so oh yeah they go in there lay down she
Starting point is 02:09:03 undresses and uh we see the the fun bags and everything and um I know nothing of about shooting up heroin. The only stuff I've known is from movies. And I think you need to inject it into a vein, not just stab it into your legs. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 02:09:28 And I love the Vig Vega syringe that he had because Vig Vig Vega from Pulp Fiction, he had that little fancy one. But this one was like extra fancy. It was already loaded up, needleed up, and everything. It was a giant syringe too.
Starting point is 02:09:45 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that much with a killed her, but it's a movie. Because he just, he just pumped it into her leg and then one thing later than another. I don't know what heroin does to you, but I don't know. They didn't get that far. It fades to black. So that's who we're introduced to. Oh, it goes. to, uh,
Starting point is 02:10:12 uh, uh, De La Plain after he's done taxing it. He goes home. Sharon Stone's there and, uh,
Starting point is 02:10:19 he's like, oh yeah, I just had a rough day at the office and da, but the next day, uh, this is, um, he's got to go to,
Starting point is 02:10:28 he's getting ready to go to work. Sharon Stone kind of gets out of the shower. Uh, and she, she got naked during this film too, but, um, she overhears,
Starting point is 02:10:38 uh, one of, uh, Delaplepline's, uh, evil henchmen I assume talking to another henchman
Starting point is 02:10:46 and telling them what they were going to do to I think it was the guy that they were going to throw the party for later on one of the other
Starting point is 02:10:54 union high ups in the union telling them what they were going to do because he's not playing he's not playing ball with them
Starting point is 02:11:00 uh god dang it what's his name um he was Bruno in Swamp Thing oh Nicholas Worth he played
Starting point is 02:11:10 uh I think it was Carter in this. He's on the phone talking. Sharon Stone, and she overhears what's happening. So she's kind of like, oh, no. So she runs to tell her husband,
Starting point is 02:11:22 but he's getting ready to leave. And he's like, he knows what he's doing, but he's acting like, what? Maybe you heard wrong. And he's like, no,
Starting point is 02:11:30 no, they're going to do something. And I don't know if they're going to try to hurt you and all this. And he's like, well, I can't do that right now.
Starting point is 02:11:36 I got to go. I got to go. So she's all worried and scared. So he's like, Oh, fuck. So he's like, all right, well, I will deal with that later on. So he kind of just drives off. Jackson, he, Jericho, Action Jackson, he was going to go to Dell plane and talk to him
Starting point is 02:11:53 because he knows that he's a part of this Workers' Alliance deal. So he was going to try to see what he knew about the deaths of the two guys that, one, they got blown up and thrown out his window and the other guy's bull blow up. So he wanted to go there to investigate. gate and astell playing what he knew but uh he was gone but uh sharonstone well um i'm gonna go somewhere downtown or whatever and he was well here i'll give you a ride and like granted this is the second time she met this guy so she's like all right cool she knows he's a police officer so she jumps in and then she ends up just um i guess soon didn't take her
Starting point is 02:12:34 where she needed to go because they ended up in that little uh that little restaurant bar And then this is when she's just kind of spilling the beans on what she heard. He doesn't tell her anything of, because obviously he knows that she's not a part of all this dirty work. So he's just trying to, well, all right, I'll see what I can do. All right, let's get out of here. Because you could clearly see she's scared. Mainly she was worried about her husband.
Starting point is 02:13:01 She didn't want him to be hurt. And this is a scene that is in the trailer because she's like, oh, I want to ask you something. Why do they call you action? But right before she says that, says that you see this yellow taxi in the background come speeding up top speed. And that's what she goes. Why does they call you action?
Starting point is 02:13:21 And then he grabs her and they go flipping over the car. And then he's like, where are you going? I got to catch a cab or some stupid one liner like that. Yeah, he did not have the best one liners throughout this movie. I don't think they were focusing on the one-liners I mean nothing against his delivery and his acting but yeah it's they just weren't good one-liners for him there was this like obvious stuff to say
Starting point is 02:13:54 just because I gotta catch a cab all right so but I did love the seed I just love it when they do these kind of someone's in a car and the other guy's on foot running after we just had a million a marathon with a Mission Impossible
Starting point is 02:14:15 with Ethan running everywhere but Carl Weathers is a much bigger gentleman than Tom Cruise he's all ripped up and everything so but he did haul ass we did see him hauling ass in Rocky 3 but we'll get that later on
Starting point is 02:14:30 in the future episodes but yet when he goes running and there's always traffic in these big cities so okay you can probably catch this cab if you're running after it but all right but he goes and running
Starting point is 02:14:50 and jumps and lands on top but I did like this one liner he was like okay I guess this wasn't a good idea because this guy is what's his name is driving at the one of the Gamble Bob Minor the black gentleman
Starting point is 02:15:05 and he's a hauling ass around every corner and everything and while action Jackson is hanging on to the top and uh i always love when they do this in films too when the bad guys just pull out their guns and just just start firing shooting bullets to the roof and they never hit whoever is on the roof how did he crash i don't even remember um well he he hits the brakes uh jackson flies off and this is probably one of my favorite scenes in the movie how he's just yelling at the dude to just like put the gun down and come at me like a man and the the guy puts the gun down and he just floors it straight towards Jackson and then he does a full flip over the car and then of course the guy's like trying to you know
Starting point is 02:15:57 looking back because he's he's amazed too that this guy just flipped over the car and then he goes crashing into a building flipping and somehow he survives because Because when Jackson goes and checks the car, he's gone. But, yeah, that flip over the car was amazing. Yeah, it was. I was like a perfect 10. But right before all that whole, that yelling and screaming at him, when he was on the top of the taxi cab, is how he fell off.
Starting point is 02:16:28 He was like, all right, I've had enough. Or something to that. And he just, like, basically just, he, like, pounds the wind and it all falls out. I don't know if you guys have ever punched or hit a windshield, but I don't care how strong you are. The whole thing isn't going to fall apart when you do that. But hey, it's Jackson Jackson.
Starting point is 02:16:53 So then all that. But yeah, dude, that flip. Oh, man. I actually watched this twice because I enjoyed it that much. That flip, man. he just, you clearly see it wasn't him. He like took two steps and leaped. It just flipped.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Perfect form. Everything. That lands and then that car crashes. The most amazing crash to just flipping all through the air into the building, which that building really wasn't made of nothing sturdy either because the roof just collapses. And yeah, amazingly this guy is just gone he's not in the car yeah because after that car other than it's like they did like um a team always did these with the car crashes when when the cars would hit it always
Starting point is 02:17:49 flipped it would hit one thing spin in the air come down on the top so that's exactly what happened here yeah then either that guy had a tough really strong seat belt but these are the days of the just lap belts i don't i don't think there was a shoulder strap at this point i don't I could be wrong. I don't know what kind of car was, but he is gone. Oh, oh, we go back to the Delplane
Starting point is 02:18:15 Mansion. Sharon Stone is there, and she is just scared because somebody just tried to run her over and Jackson over, so she's telling her, oh, this happened, that happened. And he's like,
Starting point is 02:18:29 well, what did you tell her, or tell him? And she goes, well, I told him what, uh, Bruno, his name was it Bruno. Um, it was like Craig or Carter, uh, what, what he said. And he was like, oh, okay. But I think at this point when, uh, Della plane knew earlier, earlier in the day when she was trying to tell him something, I think he knew what he had to do.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Because when Delapain got home, uh, Carter was downstairs and, and here you go. It's all nice and clean. He gave him his gun. And then he goes upstairs to talk to his wife. And he found out what she told Jackson. So like any good bad guy trying to take over the city, he's got to take out to everyone that knows too much. So he blasted her in the chest. Well, I guess he did.
Starting point is 02:19:24 He took it out already. He beat it up when he came home after he wrecked vanity. But yeah, so she ends up dead. after she died where did where did it go oh um uh i think this is when Jackson goes looking for vanity
Starting point is 02:19:50 oh yeah that's right because he went he went back to uh wherever she was playing and uh he had watched her and i think this when she was singing some other crazy song uh from this film but i didn't like that song as much as the first one
Starting point is 02:20:09 the can you kiss me one. So he sits there watching it and then he sees her and he tries to go backstage and we're introduced to Ed again and he's like, oh, I just want to meet her and he's like, I don't think that's going to happen. And he's like, well
Starting point is 02:20:24 and he like hit him a couple time, no, he hit him once and he's, I advise you not to do that again. And he goes, well, what do you do? You probably put me through that wall. Big Ed's like, no, that goes against my Muslim beliefs. And he's like, oh, okay. And then he kind of steps back.
Starting point is 02:20:41 Call Wellers was a, was he a running back for the Raiders? Let me double check that. I think he was. I remember when he was playing, when he played for the Raiders way back in the day. Yeah. Oakland Raiders, he was a,
Starting point is 02:20:58 believe he was a running back. Linebacker. Linebacker. Yeah. So he takes, takes his stance and charges. Ed is a big gentleman. He said he weighed 275 pounds.
Starting point is 02:21:13 He was tall and he was a big dude. So he goes crash. They go, he hits him. They go crashing through the vanity or Sydney Ash's door. She's already loaded up. She injected herself. So she's like just tripping out basically because she's not making any sense. And then he's like, all right, well, we got to go because I think you're in danger.
Starting point is 02:21:37 Did she know what was going on? Or were they just going to? No, I took it as she thought Dave was about to go fuck or something. Because he kept saying, I'm going to take you somewhere. And I think she thought it was somewhere not, I don't know. Because she just kept, every time he took her someplace, she just kept referring to him as a square. This isn't fun. And of course, you know, he's not even listening to none of that.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Because, yeah, because he does tell him, look, I mean, you got to. you got to come with me because I need to protect you because I don't know what you know, but I know you're banging Della plane. So, come on. So she's like, all drugged out. She don't know what's happening. So she basically thinks that they're going to go fuck somewhere. So she's like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:25 And oh, we need to go back because my, no, no, no, that's later on. But anyway, see, like, well, let's go. So they go driving and they went to, they were going to go to or they basically got to Jackson's, uh, apartment, but he sees all these cops and everybody in there, or like cop cars outside, and they don't really know what's going on, but then he listens to the radio, and he finds out that they find the dead body of Patrice Della Plain. Her body is inside Jackson's apartment, so, and they see that she's got bullet holes in her chest,
Starting point is 02:23:02 and she's laying her naked. So they say, oh, Jackson killed her. I mean, and now we need to find him. I don't know what kind of police were. I assume let's ask him questions first, but they just assume, yeah, he killed her and we got to find him now. Of course. Yeah, we got a black cop on the run because he killed some white woman in his apartment. No questions asking why or if he did it.
Starting point is 02:23:29 They just assume he did it. I say it's everyone. And I'm sure they would do that today in 2020. Anyway, so they go, well, let's go back to your apartment. And she goes, all right, his party's picking up and something stupid shit like that. So they end up going to her house and he's like, he tries to go turn on lights and everything. He's like, no, no, no, just leave everything off and don't answer the phone. She's like, why?
Starting point is 02:23:53 What's the matter? Because at this point, she doesn't really know what's happening, why he's with her. And she knows nothing of Delapleyn's business because he did it right, just kept his mouth shut about what he did. Just went over there, used her for her body. And so she knows nothing. but Jackson didn't know he just I think she knew something because she was banging uh, del plane.
Starting point is 02:24:18 So he's like no, no, don't touch anything, but she goes over and touches the answer machine and then they're like, ah, and then that blows up. Um, did the invisible men come in?
Starting point is 02:24:29 Yeah, I think so. If I remember, and right, I think they came as they were leaving. Did, so there was no fighting. Because I know there was an explosion,
Starting point is 02:24:41 but then they, they didn't fight or anything while they weren't? No, I don't think so. Okay, so they just got out. Yeah, and this is when they go to his friend, his friend's little hotel, Kid Sable. Yeah, Chino Fats Williams.
Starting point is 02:24:59 If you guys remember him from Weird Science, he was one of the dudes in the bar, kind of in the beginning. Plus, he was the truck driver, the dump driver, dump truck driver, in the beginning of Terminator. But again, if you've seen known who this guy is, he's been in a ton of movies. But those are the only films that come to my mind.
Starting point is 02:25:20 He was also in a house party. Yeah, uh, Roadhouse. He's, he's, if you heard his voice, you'll, you'll remember him and everything he's in. So we get an awesome little, uh, get together because they're like, hey, we've seen uh, Detroit's favorite son in a long time. And, uh, they're just kind of laughing around. And I love the, uh, what did they say to each other?
Starting point is 02:25:43 Oh, right before they get it, like, oh, man, you're old son of bitch. He goes, if the force don't fade, wait, the force may fade, but the reflex never dies. Because Kid Sable is a old retired boxer from Detroit. Because when they introduce him, he goes, yes, when he introduces Kid Sable to Vandy, he goes, there's two favorite people that came out of Detroit. We got Joe, was it Joe, yeah, was Joe Lewis and Kid Sable? And then she goes, oh, nice to meet you, Mr. Lewis. And then he's like, don't look like we got a boxing fan, do we?
Starting point is 02:26:20 So he's like, yeah, I need a room. And he goes, all right. He goes, yeah, we got to breakfast in the morning. So we'll let you know. So this time she is already starting to Jones for her fix because she's kind of like just being all fidgety and everything. But he's like, ah, he goes, all right, you'll be all right. Just come on. let's go.
Starting point is 02:26:42 Because he did tell a kid, Sable was like, he got any, um, any, uh, any, uh,
Starting point is 02:26:47 guys in this, uh, because she's, uh, he's, she likes candy. And he goes, uh,
Starting point is 02:26:52 no, I run a respectable business. And then so, all right, whatever. So he goes up there and, basically just trying to crash there for the night because they're on the run.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Um, but she was still straight up. Even if she was strung out, she still wanted, uh, he still wanted to get down. She wanted him to live up to his name. Uh,
Starting point is 02:27:10 She was throwing it at him Still really don't know who he is, but she was throwing it at him the whole time Yeah again. I mean I've been around junkies and it's it's all they don't care You could be the The the nerdiest guy on the block and if you got what they want Not what's hanging but money and drugs. They'll do it for you but anyway I never took part in any of that everyone but I've seen it anyway.
Starting point is 02:27:42 So, I assume she just tuffed it through the night because then the next day they kind of wake up and he comes out of the shower and someone knocks on the door bringing breakfast
Starting point is 02:27:55 and it's the little young black gentleman from the beginning of the film that got arrested because he looks at him and he goes, Action Jackson, and he starts shaking. I love the thing, Van he goes, no action in here.
Starting point is 02:28:10 So he leaves her there, but where did he go? Oh, Go ahead. Fuck, I can't remember. He went somewhere. He wanted to go check out some leads or something. Oh, okay. No, he went, is this the part?
Starting point is 02:28:32 I can't remember. He goes to that bar and he wants to meet, I can't remember, I can't remember the guy's name. something that knew something about delaplein so he goes yeah yeah to go meet him uh but then he finds out that uh that that the guy he's looking for uh the only thing part of him there is his balls in a uh his balls little literally his balls are in a jar in this little cupboard in the back of the bar but um he goes there and trying to figure it out and he's like well uh no he took no he when he goes to that part he's that
Starting point is 02:29:10 bar he has vanity with him yeah because I don't know where he left but yeah that's the part I'm missing because he leaves and then when he comes back that's when she's with Sunny Landum trying to get a fit that's after this because
Starting point is 02:29:28 they both go to that bar and they're looking for that guy but he's not there but he gets into it with them because they're the I assume that's their turf um they these guys that he he gets into it of nothing to do with the story but you got to throw some action in somewhere so he goes in there asking
Starting point is 02:29:46 for so and so and they're like well he ain't here or no they open the door and show him and they're like well what's this and this is when he finds out that he's dead and just his balls are in there because these guys took it from him so this is when Miguel A. Nunes
Starting point is 02:30:02 they just call him as pool room thug he's in there as well as I can never get this guy's name Brands, Combie, Richmond. Yeah, him. Was he in Renegade?
Starting point is 02:30:18 Yeah, I think so. He's in a lot of movies. Yeah. He's in Mortal Kombat. They live, hard to kill, and a bunch of other things. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:30:29 again, he was in, he was the Native American guy, Nash Bridges, as well as Texel or Walker, Texas Ranger. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:30:40 he was in Renegade. as well. I guess he is Native American. I thought he was an islander. Native American, Native Hawaiian, French, French, Polynesian, Spanish, and Portuguese. Okay. Well, I guess he must have been riding the Native American actor
Starting point is 02:31:00 for all his worth because he was always the native sidekick and a lot of these things. But he's a good actor. He's been in a ton of things. He's in there. Miguel A. Nunes. And there was the bartender, the big black gentleman. I don't even remember his name in it.
Starting point is 02:31:23 But they're in there. Oh, I assume his name is Richard L. Duren. Poolroom Thug three. Okay. Oh, the bartender was Charles Meshach. Missack. He's called him Pool Room Bartang. under this so those those one two three four those four guys got him in the back and uh basically
Starting point is 02:31:48 they're getting ready to cut his balls off and i soon put him if not in that jar maybe in another jar and stick it in the cupboard after they after they killed him um but this is when vanity comes in and uh tells them that oh my brother's uh this is my brother and they're like oh this is your brother and he goes yeah uh well he's crazy and he's uh he's real spiritual and starts oh praise Jesus and da da da and it works yeah I mean first of all if I was one of these pool hall of thugs out of dude I don't buy ain't buying this and cut his balls off but did did they know her because it's almost like she came in here and she came in the room and they were like do you know this guy like we're just going to go off or her word I assume so
Starting point is 02:32:35 either they call her show or they just know her as one of the neighborhood junkies I don't know. But I think if you saw someone like vanity, you would never forget her. But anyway, especially at this time in her career. So, but I loved Miguel A. Nunes. He was just like, what you talk about, girl? I just love how the only way I can say is when these black actors, the stereotypical stuff that they do in these films, they make them, I don't know what they tell them, act black. something but you know when they do when they have these guys in the roles they tell me you need to be
Starting point is 02:33:16 i don't know what the director's telling be more street be more hood or whatever but they they have to always pour it on so but uh it fit the roles for these guys and it was funny so but then they all get into this huge uh uh fight i don't even remember how you took them out i just remember they were all fighting and there was no gunfire in this one was it no he he took everybody out by hand because you know he's action jackson so oh so this is basically just uh to kill time because it didn't really have nothing to do with the story because when they leave and they get back to the hotel and they go well what happened to you well i went looking for so-and-so he was telling us the kid's stable and he goes he goes man i could have saved your time he goes his balls are in a jar in the bar in the back
Starting point is 02:34:06 oh it was something that he should have known but everyone else in that neighborhood knew. All right. I think this is where I'm going to get lost now. After that, where'd they go? I'm blacking out here. We got the sunny landum scene coming up.
Starting point is 02:34:30 I don't know how we got there. He's talking to Kid Sable and he goes, well, here, I know someone you can talk to. He's a go to the salon on the corner of whatever, whatever, and speak to, I want to say her name was, was it Diane? I'm trying to scroll through the,
Starting point is 02:34:55 through the, I can't remember her name. Is it D? D. That one, okay, yeah, D. Ghost talked to D at the, whatever, whatever salon. So he goes there. I love this scene, and I love this,
Starting point is 02:35:12 this character, her name, her real name is, Armella McQueen. She plays D. She's like a hairdresser in the local salon. All right. This is where I had it. It's a movie, everyone. I should be taking it easy. But I got a big problem with this scene. I don't know who this D lady is, but she just seems like a nice young lady working as a hairdresser. But she knew all the dirt that was going on in Detroit. Because when he goes in there, all right, well, what do you know? And she's got her music blasting in the background.
Starting point is 02:35:53 She's dancing and basically kind of rapping and telling him what he wanted to hear. But she knew the dirt on everybody that was doing dirt in Detroit. Is that all he said is, what do you know? Yeah, because the kids say, well, yeah, go down there. She'll tell you anything you want to know. She knows everybody. So that's what he went in there. And then he said, what do you know about Delplane?
Starting point is 02:36:14 And this is where she just wins. oh, he's tried, he killed that this person. He basically told, yeah, he killed those guys. And, uh, but he didn't do it himself. He hired these, this group of men from, uh, some, from one of his other partners, uh, that he was dealing with that ended up dead. And he goes, he hires, um, uh, the invisible man.
Starting point is 02:36:34 She goes, there's some kind of killer force that does all their dirty work for him. So that's when we find out who, well, we've seen them already, but we find out what they're called and they're called the invisible men. And she tells them, she goes, yeah, He had the guys that were working for him. They had him kill their boss, and they also killed his, Delapaline's first wife, because she was also finding out what was going on. I think she was part of the situation, but she wasn't going along with her husband's plan,
Starting point is 02:37:05 so he had her bumped out, rubbed out, and then the Invisible Men did it, and plus Delapain's original partner before all the dirty work started. They killed him as well. So he was like, okay, now I know. So he basically knows why Delapleine, what he's trying to do, who he killed,
Starting point is 02:37:23 all the people he murdered, or had people murdered them. And she always found, yeah, and he goes, and the guy that they're having a party for tonight or tomorrow night or whenever, they're going to kill him.
Starting point is 02:37:37 And that was the guy that was like the head of the auto workers union or alliance. What was it, what was it called? a W.A, the Auto Workers Alliance. He was the head of that. So he's like, okay, so now he
Starting point is 02:37:50 figures out, he knows why, what's going on, he knows the plan, he knows that for some reason she knew he was going to kill that guy at the party. Again, I don't know how she knew all this, but
Starting point is 02:38:05 I don't know. People talk at a hair salon, I guess. And they do. I remember sitting. and my friend's mom's hair salon when I was little
Starting point is 02:38:19 and we were just sitting there waiting and they talk and talk and tell everybody's business. I assume someone came in there to get their hair did and they just spilling everyone's business out into the streets.
Starting point is 02:38:33 So that's how D knows. Do you think she wanted to bang him? Probably because you know he's Jericho Jackson Action Jackson. I mean Vanity still Yeah vanity still wants to bang him
Starting point is 02:38:48 And she's not even sure who he is really Yeah So We give a Jackson goes back to the hotel He goes up to the room Finds out Sydney's not in there He runs
Starting point is 02:38:59 This is when he runs back downstairs And tells kids say Well hey man you got any dealers In this building He's like man I run in respect The real business And he's like come on man He goes yeah
Starting point is 02:39:08 Third floor and room 3 oh whatever Take it easy on the door. So he goes up there and this is when we they go in there. We see sunny, uh, sunny Lanham with, um, the vanity, uh, Mr. Quick. He is the, uh, the local, um, or the, uh, the hotel drug dealer. And he just looks all just dirty and sweaty and, uh, with his Detroit, uh, his satin, uh, Detroit Lions jacket on. I love those old school satin jackets. I don't think they make those anymore, but, uh, they were all. awesome back in the day. I had a Raiders one. I think I have it somewhere around here, but it don't fit me. Anyway, so he goes in there and he's getting ready to juice her up. She hasn't, no, I think he did because she was kind of a little trippy. So I think he fixed her up, but I don't know if he was going to give her another blast and then probably bang her or something because he just looked like that type of guy. But Action Jackson comes busting in and they start fighting.
Starting point is 02:40:12 And he's like, you better be careful. This is Action Jackson. Rest in peace, Sonny. But when he puts on the evil, he's evil. His laugh, just his voice and how he looks. And he was like, oh, this is him. And then he goes, I want to fuck you and kill you or whatever. And maybe not in that order.
Starting point is 02:40:35 But whatever he said, they ended up fighting. And they're kind of wrestling around. He pulls out a knife. because I'm going to cut your fucking heart out or whatever that least is. And then Jack's like, come on, just watch your language in front of the lady.
Starting point is 02:40:51 And he jams him up against the wall trying to get that knife out of his hand. But then he sees it. During the first struggle, Mr. Quick had a syringe already loaded up, ready to rock. And while they were struggling,
Starting point is 02:41:06 I got stabbed into the wall. So Jackson grabs it, jams it into Mr. Quick's shoulder and pushes down the little plunger or compressor or whatever you call it and loads him up and I don't know it seemed like it just gave him more energy and juice because he went ah he started laughing and then they started
Starting point is 02:41:25 fighting and they're just beating the shit out of each other in this while Vanity's just tripping out not even really screaming or anything but this stunt right here was awesome shout out to the stunt man Sunny Lanham is a stunt man but I if that was him cool If it wasn't, I don't know who it was. But Jackson throws Mr. Quick out the window.
Starting point is 02:41:47 And he goes across from one building, from the hotel across the alley, and he goes crashing into another window. And again, whoever that stuntman is, I don't know if he misjudged his landing, but he goes through the window, but his legs like fold on the window still. was like damn again that was a good stunt during all this um officer biff and uh the other gentleman he's with officer lac they happen to be driving by and they see uh jericho or jackson's um it was an impala i can't remember what year was do you no but we we didn't even talk about how his car got stripped of everything oh that's right because they they it was just fresh it was just
Starting point is 02:42:42 red rag top and he kind of parks it in the alley when they go into that hotel and it comes back and it's just stripped. So it's basically on blocks. But they see his car and they're like, oh, well maybe he's in here so they kind of go in the alley to
Starting point is 02:42:58 check it out and that's when you see Mr. Quigg go crash into the window and goes crashing into the other one and then they look up there and they see him and they always do this in these type of films. They go, Jackson or whoever they're searching for the cops down on the floor,
Starting point is 02:43:14 stay right there. I'm like, okay. Of course they're going to run. But they did those two officers go running upstairs, but Jackson and Sydney is like, well, we got to get out of here, so let's jump. I don't know how, oh, they were on the third floor because they were in room three or whatever.
Starting point is 02:43:37 I don't know how it feels to land on top of a convertible, but I'm pretty sure a, it looks like he went right through it and fell in the backseat and it looked like whatever was under that part of the top that probably took more for it. It was a female stunt woman and she goes crashing onto that as well. Other than they would have been laying there for a while
Starting point is 02:44:02 but they jump up and go running. Did they... Oh, they stole the police car. Yeah, yeah. Was there a police chase or did they just take off? They just took off Now I'm lost where did they go after this? I know they end up
Starting point is 02:44:22 I forgot how but they end up getting caught By some people Hmm And this is when Ed comes to help them out of nowhere Because you kind of forget all about Ed Oh they go to another bar They're going bars and left and right in this film
Starting point is 02:44:38 They go to another bar and she goes in there and tries to scout out the You're right was he a cop or was he another union guy he was another union guy because you see him later at the dinner party okay yeah because he's um oh that's right yeah we'll get to him again uh he's like oh yeah you're so-and-so and he goes yeah well you want to go out and have a good time to say yeah but then uh i think on the ways when she tells him no you're gonna see uh was it did she say delplane was going to be there yeah i think so yeah because they go way out to some
Starting point is 02:45:15 industrial place. I don't know what they were building there, but they take him out there and then he goes, well, where's Delap Lane? And this is when Jackson comes out and he's like, oh shit. So he tries to run. But then
Starting point is 02:45:31 I think the Delaprain, no, the invisible men. They ended up grabbing Sydney and then they grab him. And then they chain him up. And basically going to torture and kill him. The whole plane shows up,
Starting point is 02:45:48 tells him, all right, you guys foiled my plan. Once again, but you're not going to foil the main plan I'm about to do. So basically, I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill her, but before I kill her, I'm a fucker again. And then
Starting point is 02:46:01 he was ruthless. I wasn't by it. I wasn't by it, but he was ruthless. Yeah. Different times than the 80s, boys and girls. And before they left that bar, I assume Ed must have been working at all kinds of different bars because he saw Vanity and Jackson there.
Starting point is 02:46:26 So he follows them to that place because they chain up Jackson and they say, well, we're going to burn you up and kill you. Again, I love it. And they always do these in film. instead of just killing whoever they're going to kill and leave it at that, they have to tell them their whole plan and what they were going to do. So basically, he told them,
Starting point is 02:46:51 look, you're going to be the one that's going to kill the guy that we're going to kill that's not playing hardball with them. I can't remember that the union guy's name. It was, we're going to kill him and we're going to blame, you're going to get the blame for it because our invisible guy here, Gamble,
Starting point is 02:47:11 which is another black gentleman, he's going to be dressed up just like you. So everyone's going to, this was ruthless right here. And he, because he told him, he goes, he's going to be dressed like you, so everyone's going to know and think it was you. And he leans into him,
Starting point is 02:47:26 and he goes, because to all these people, you guys all look the same. I was like, damn. He said, because all of my friends think you guys all look the same. So they would have just assumed was a black guy that did it,
Starting point is 02:47:41 and Jackson is the one. They go, but they're going to find, he's going to get away, but we're going to find his body all charred up because I guess something was going to blow up and you're going to be in it, and it'll be your body that we find that they have in there because they had them tied up,
Starting point is 02:47:59 and they said, we're going to just burn you alive and then kill her, and that'll be the end, and I'll be the king of Detroit, of the auto workers union. So he tells him that whole plan. He ends up leaving, I got to go to the party. I'm out.
Starting point is 02:48:15 And he took Sydney with him. Yeah. So he took her. So he's there. And the invisible men, the henchmen guys, well, a couple,
Starting point is 02:48:26 no, three of them stayed stuck behind. So they're like, all right. And of course, I got to do the one. All right, we're getting ready for a barbecue.
Starting point is 02:48:35 And that shit. I don't know what that was if it was something that burns metal or what, but it looked like a blow torch or something. Yeah, because they, there's one scene I have a problem with. When, when Ed comes and he's, he's beating everybody's ass and then him in a, to free Jackson, he just pushes the little torch thing to the chain, and that works. Like within seconds. I mean, I don't know how hot, I was like. that thing was but it was like
Starting point is 02:49:08 and then he was free yeah I know it's a movie but that that is probably the one thing that I was just like come on now that was super quick but it was funny because they were getting ready to do it and Jackson at this point thought he was done for because he
Starting point is 02:49:27 there was no one there he didn't think anyone knew he was there but luckily Ed followed him it was right before they about to burn him You hear, hello, I'm Mr. Ed. And the camera goes up and you see this big 275 pound black man jumping off a scaffold. It looked pretty high. And 275 pounds onto your angles, I'm like, broke something.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Again, it's a movie, everyone. So he's the one that comes in and saves the day, roughs up one of the dudes. did they did the was it two or three i think it was three that stuck around um i think so yeah he killed all three of them but how did the first two guys get killed did ed i think ed yeah i think ed took them out real quick because and then go ahead he um after he jumped down on them and then he turns the the torch onto jackson's little chains and they break he breaks free uh he turned that um that torch to uh the the long-haired blonde one because he was holding a gun and a a a gallon jug of gasoline i guess yeah oh okay okay
Starting point is 02:50:51 i remember now when he jumps down he pushes the first guy um that guy was in uh another 48 hours he's the one that got shot when eddie murphy shot him in the in the knee and the bar that was him he gets pushed back onto a control panel of some sort and z he gets electrocute and he burns up and dies yeah because somebody's always gonna die that way in these movies because they he they sprayed uh or he sprayed paint all over him so i mean paint is flammable so when he hit those electrodes and then he ended up burning up then he turns that blow torch um or Jackson he turns a blowtorch to the other dude the other blonde guy with the uh I've said this before all henchments have to have
Starting point is 02:51:38 long blonde hair and I have long hair and I've been in fights with my hair down and it's no good you just need your hair pulled back if you can get raw anyway so he he turns that torso him opens it up it shoots a I don't think that's what it's made for but it turns into a a flamethrower. It burns him up. He blows up because the gas ignites that's in the little gallon
Starting point is 02:52:04 thing that he's holding. And that's when that other guy comes out with a gun and starts shooting at Ed and Jackson. So they go running and hiding and then this guy comes out onto this like balcony type of thing looking for them. Ed
Starting point is 02:52:20 slams into him. That is the guy that was in I remember him from Diehard. He was the the evil guy that was working in the lobby at the bottom of the Nakatomi building. So he goes out there, he falls down, he drops his,
Starting point is 02:52:41 I assume some kind of rocket launcher type of gun. And Jackson picks it up and he's laying there because then he goes, barbecue, huh? He goes, how do you like your ribs? Or something stupid like that. sheets out of him. He goes as much as I love this movie,
Starting point is 02:53:03 this has to have the worst one-liners ever. But, man, Carl Weathers, man, he delivered him with conviction. Every single one of them. So I was like, oh, my God. It was stupid, but it was
Starting point is 02:53:20 funny. So all those three of those invisible guys were dead. So now they know they have to get to the Delapain place for the party to try to stop the assassination of whatever that head guy's name was so Jackson comes up with a plan which we don't see they just kind of show up at the at the the party it's kid's able Jackson and Albert that that was the kid's name okay the little young kid that was scared of Jackson but he's finally helping him they're all
Starting point is 02:53:58 suited up in their tuxedos and they go into it and basically, all right, we need to find this guy and let's look for the the assassin dude that's going to shoot him. So we see Gamble. He's got Jackson's red shirt on that he's been wearing the whole movie. And he's posted up in his tree with a sniper gun trying to take out
Starting point is 02:54:21 I can't even not remember that guy's name, but whoever the head guy was. So they really realize that something's happening because some of the the dudes, the guards or whatever in the front of the place weren't there because some lady comes in, hey, there was nobody up front parking cars and that's what they'll.
Starting point is 02:54:41 Oh, well, I'll do something about it. He turns to Al Young. What was his name? Oh, it just says Del are playing chauffeur. He turns to him, hey, there's something wrong, go up there and see what's going on. So the chauffeur and Brian Libby's character,
Starting point is 02:54:58 Marlin, they go running up to the front to see what's happening. And they see Jackson. They'll see Jackson in there and is about to go down. And then they do see the sniper in the tree. So they go running over there and try to stop him. They know all heck's about to break loose because people start moving around. The sniper guy takes a shot. He does end up hitting his target, but he moved.
Starting point is 02:55:26 And he just took one to the shoulder. So he kind of goes down and everyone's running around screaming, trying to get away. How did he kill him? The guy in the tree that was shooting. I don't remember. So much was happening. Yeah. Oh, he goes over to them and there's like lights in the tree.
Starting point is 02:55:49 They're like not Christmas tree lights, but just lights for the party. He kind of gets something like that and like wraps it around that guy somehow and pulls him down. the tree he falls onto the fence and gets um like uh shish kabobber by the by the fence because it's like two of the of the steel rods go through him so he's there dead and i think he said a one-liner but i don't remember it was probably something stupid but he goes running he goes running after delap plane and then uh del plane goes running upstairs and then you see you hear vanity screaming jackson out of the top uh out of one of the top floor windows. So Jackson sees her. But this is this part was probably my favorite and the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:56:34 You're talking about the Kid Sable part? Yeah. Um, uh, Brat, Alion goes running up and Kid Sable jumps up in front of him. And, uh, Kid Sable was known for, um, his footwork in the ring. Clearly it wasn't him. But so he goes, Hey, man, where you going? And then he, he looks at him and the camera goes down, those feet and you hear him she here just his footwork that what boxes do and then he kind of clocks him and knocks him down he falls back it looks like he's getting ready to pull out a gun all of a sudden you hear gunshot um the delpen chauffeur alley on goes flying back with bullet holes in his chest uh kid table turns around and uh detective carterwell he's played by jack thereaboo or
Starting point is 02:57:23 I don't know I'd say his last thing but him he's another guy that's been in a ton of films and I loved him I liked him in this he's usually the asshole guy
Starting point is 02:57:31 in his movies but he was a guy in this one yeah I liked him in this because he was like aren't you kids Sable and he was like yeah and he was like
Starting point is 02:57:40 I thought that was you he goes your kid's Sable aren't you you better believe it brother I thought that was awesome because he's the one that gave Jackson the gun.
Starting point is 02:57:53 He goes, he looks up, they see that Delapalane's causing all this shit. He looks up and then he looks at Jackson. You know, I got to take you in. And then he goes, oh, fuck it and throws him his gun. And Jackson goes running off. Earlier, I got to jump back or go back a little bit. Earlier in the film, there was a commercial
Starting point is 02:58:09 for this car called, oh, fuck. Haley, I think that's what it was called. Like, kind of like Haley's comment type of thing. I don't know what kind of car was. some little red sports car, but they had one on display at the party. In the commercial, it was like fast,
Starting point is 02:58:32 faster, fastest, and Haley's convertible, or I don't know, something stupid like that. So Jackson's like, oh, man, I got to get up there. Instead of just running up the stairs to save the girl and save the day, he gets in that little car.
Starting point is 02:58:48 Mind you, this is a party with like hundreds of people there. Everybody running in every direction. He gets in that car, happens to not hit anyone at the party, crashes into the house, and he goes fast, and he's racing. And right before he goes up the stairs, faster, he goes driving up these stairs. I've never been in a big mansion before, and I don't know how wide the hallways are. clearly you can see they made this this hallway
Starting point is 02:59:22 for this scene because and then he goes fastest and he goes hauling ass down the hallway in this car and crashes into Delapain's bedroom where he's got vanity Was he about to bang her again?
Starting point is 02:59:38 I think he was just going to drug her up and I don't know if he was going to get a quick one in but he was definitely going to kill her so he goes crash it in there he jumps out of the car they got their guns drawn on on each other but then they have to do the
Starting point is 02:59:53 let's take this hand to hand and of course you got to get the the last action scene because earlier in the film we see Della playing kicking ass when he beat up the Asian gentleman basically his teacher's instructor and some of it was Craig T. Nelson because I mean it's just hard to not
Starting point is 03:00:16 have just a complete body double but those did not look like his legs when he was throwing those kicks. Oh, you know when it's not him. Basically, the back of whoever the body double is, his head is not as big as Craig T. Nelson or not the right shape. Yeah, I was about to say I felt like whoever the stunt guy was was a lot thinner. But, I mean, they were both bringing them hands, both of them,
Starting point is 03:00:46 when you could see that it was Craig T. Nelson. And that was Carl Wethers the whole way, I believe. Well, yeah, Della Plain was bringing it to him. Pretty much beating his ass the whole fight. But then Carl Wethers, he must have heard that bell. And then he just goes into Apollo Creed mode, just left rights, left rights, uppercuts and all that, then gives him a kick.
Starting point is 03:01:12 And that part, once he kind of jumped into his boxing mode, then it was like so fast. because Carl Wethers is quick and if you guys have seen Rocky you know how quick his hands are So he goes flying back and they both good basically he knows because I can't beat him with my fist or my kick So he grabs his gun Delapain grabs his gun Jackson grabs his gun they did both do the famous slow-mo shootout and The action Jackson pumps tool two slugs into Della plane's chest Jackson takes one to the short
Starting point is 03:01:47 shoulder and they both go down and that's pretty much the end of delaple plane vanity comes running up this this to me this is a little bit power i was like really no here she was hurting earlier in the film like maybe like the day before i don't know how long it takes you to to detox from heavy drugs uh plus she i think she did no i don't think she he was about to drug her up she wasn't drugged up yet. But she's like, oh, I just quit cold turkey, so I'm fed her. Yeah, right. I was like, you would have been hurting and everything, because earlier she was like,
Starting point is 03:02:27 oh, my teeth hurt, my head feels like the day before you was going through everything, but now you just, I'm quit cold turkey. Happy ending. Yeah, I'm quit cold turkey and Thanksgiving later. Well, I'd rather have it sooner than later. so I don't know if I would want to bang some junkie this banging whoever's going to give it to her but all right and yeah happy ending I'm surprised there wasn't a freeze frame ending because that was the end of the movie oh before we get out of here um Bill duke's character captain arm bruster brewster
Starting point is 03:03:08 or whatever he comes in and sees all that we see uh the Jericho just bleeding out of his shoulder and Delplane laying they're dead. He goes, all right, Jackson, because I'm going to want a full report on my desk tomorrow morning. And he's like, tomorrow morning, yes, tomorrow morning, Lieutenant. And then he's like, oh, yeah, so they get all happy and then the movie's over.
Starting point is 03:03:33 Yeah. I don't think it would have happened that quick. No, cold turkey, back to lieutenant, paperwork in the morning, happy ending. Yeah, so within the next, let's give them 10 hours other than going to the hospital and getting bolus pulled out of you
Starting point is 03:03:50 or at least stitched back up then going home crushing it then filling out your police report and then turn it in I don't think it could be done but he's action Jackson he could do whatever he wants but I don't think
Starting point is 03:04:07 I'd have been slamming some junkie so I'd be hell no I wouldn't have went to work the next day man I just got to shot dude I'm done all drug down from the pain painkillers but overall this movie is awesome and what do you give it for a score um coming to the realization that this is probably really my first watch of it i fucking loved it i'm gonna give it a straight eight out of its hand i love the action
Starting point is 03:04:39 i just carl weathers kicks ass i mean i i i see what you're saying you know, I might not have liked the one-liners, but he did deliver him the best he could. They might not have been written the best they could, but he gave him the best he could. I kind of like Craig T. Nelson as a villain
Starting point is 03:04:59 in this one. And this movie just made me wish there was some way, because this is set in Detroit, I wish we would have got an Axel Foley, Axon Jackson kind of tango and cash movie. They were
Starting point is 03:05:15 talking about they wanted to turn this into a franchise because they at this point they wanted a we already had a few Beverly Hills cops films they wanted another a well-known black actor to be the the next big thing action star wise so Carl Wellers was is who they chose I thought they could have done this I mean watching this now like I said I probably really didn't care for it when I first saw it but watching it again I kind of wish they wanted they did turn this into somewhat of a franchise give us an action Jackson to yeah give us Jackson in Africa or something like that how they did shaft and
Starting point is 03:06:01 everything I mean just something I thought would have been cool but it didn't go anywhere yeah because uh almost 21 million off of a seven million dollar budget that that's not too bad for for the 80s and especially for all the explosion and and the the practical gunshot effects I mean that's that was a lot I mean what is how much seven million way how many million I'm sorry seven seven million dollar budget seven million that's nothing I mean well in the movie money today it's nothing but back then I mean you you think about they they did a lot I mean I guess it was cheaper to do what they did in this film back in
Starting point is 03:06:41 the 80s let's say 87 when they filmed this for $7 million. The explosions, the car crashes, just everything that they did in this thing, blowing up boats and throwing body, burning bodies out of windows and everything. I mean,
Starting point is 03:07:01 that's, I wonder how much the actors got paid to be in this. Because $7 million, usually, I mean, what, at this point in the 80s.
Starting point is 03:07:16 I doubt it. I'm sure he just took it as, all right, with the idea of this was going to be a franchise in a series. So I don't know, maybe he didn't get that much. Maybe he just got like, to be generous, let's just say $100,000. Maybe not even that, but to be in this film.
Starting point is 03:07:38 But this will, I didn't even give my score. I'm going to go up a little bit. I'm going to give it a $8,000. point five now fuck that i'm gonna give it a nine yeah i had some some some some gripes about this film but i mean i this is just an amazing and fun film to watch for just what it is i mean at least the story would had it was a good story uh about the auto workers union officials and everything and and all that i loved that part of it that's detroit because in that time i don't know how it is now
Starting point is 03:08:14 in Detroit with the auto industry but then that's uh it was going strong uh back then so i really liked all that and just some guy to just basically take out all the competition and be uh the number one dude um i assume like he had his car dealers and he had his cars being made there so i'm sure he wanted to be uh number one and all that but i mean the story was there the action was there. Probably my biggest griper, the one-liners. They just, they didn't write good ones for him.
Starting point is 03:08:49 How do you like your ribs? What did the captain say? You almost tore that, that boy's arm off. And Jackson goes, so he had a spare. Oh, God. but he said it with conviction man he did it he did he read what was on the script and put it out so nothing against carlweathers he's an amazing actor and uh i just wish there was more of these
Starting point is 03:09:25 um i i know he did a um a tv series that only aired like a few episodes i can't remember the name of it it was it was in the 80s and he was it was kind of like this show he was a cop um let me see if I can remember
Starting point is 03:09:50 oh it was right before this uh well before predator Fortune Dane do you remember that it was an 86 no I don't remember that one there wasn't many episodes they said six episodes
Starting point is 03:10:07 and then they canceled it because then after that he did predator and then he did axon jackson yeah see uh canceled due to failing to compete with mcc's the golden girls in 227 yeah those were those were some heavy hitters especially the golden girls um i think 227 is uh uh syndicated on some channel i know i see it every now and then that was when i fell in love with uh what's her face Regina King she's older than me so I was young at that time and then what did it for me was she had her dukey braids
Starting point is 03:10:55 and boys in the hood and then when she came back in poetic justice oh I like those gals poetic justice brush that weak ass fade she was ruthless man i know we're supposed to be talking actually but when she was riding in chicago dude i'm sure he was giving it is all but she rolled her eyes on him i was like
Starting point is 03:11:25 oh damn what you you take steroids or something that's why i'm fucking somebody else i was like damn uh virginia king you're listening i love you He can do no wrong in my eyes. But Carl Weathers, awesome actor. Can't wait to see him back in season two of the Mandalorian as Grief Carga. We thought he was bad in the beginning, but then he turned out to be good at the end. So I hope he's got a bigger role in this next season of the Mandalorian. Action Jackson, everybody.
Starting point is 03:12:08 But if you guys have not seen it, it's streaming on stars, and it's all in the name, because that's what you get in this film. It's awesome. 88, late 80s, action. Again, I wish he would have done more on his own with this type, with this character, really. And they just, it just didn't work. Because I'm looking at the stuff after. I don't ever think he's been in something where he was the main guy. A lot of TV stuff, movies he's done, but he was just one of the side actors.
Starting point is 03:12:54 Yeah. All right, everyone. That's Cobra in Action Jackson, two awesome films from the 80s. This is the one I couldn't wait to talk about. Because it was just so awesome. And I'm really glad we did this film. This is part of the show. Tell the listeners what you got coming.
Starting point is 03:13:26 Oh, what do we got? Geez, another regular episode of E-Society. And not really. sure what else i know that's coming we would they should have been out but uh it just didn't happen life gets in the way uh we both work so it's kind of hard to uh put something together but um i wanted to talk about vanity really quick but i just erased the page i was on uh vanity Denise Williams One of the
Starting point is 03:14:15 protegees of Prince, the late and great prince Vanity She was born on January 4th 1959 And Niagara Falls, Ontario In Canada And she passed away February 15th 2016 at the age of 57
Starting point is 03:14:33 In Fremont, California I'm Not sure from what? Kidney failure. Oh, okay. Yeah, she was I know she just
Starting point is 03:14:48 had a wild ride hanging out with Prince and just doing the music thing and just being the stars and the fame just got to her because she was doing drugs and everything as well.
Starting point is 03:15:05 It does say she was with Nick six for like a year. Yeah, and I'm sure that was a big drug fest. If you guys have seen the dirt or read that book, you know how they rolled in those days. Because I remember her, I remember that
Starting point is 03:15:22 once you said that now I remember that I remember she was on MTV for something. And she goes, oh, I hear you're engaged and you're going to be Vanity Six. And she's like, yeah, I'm hanging out with Nikki. And I'm like, oh, man, he probably had everybody in the world.
Starting point is 03:15:40 I remember she, this was news that, like MTV news and all that happened. They brought her up. And she quit going by the name vanity. She was just going by Denise William Matthews. And she found Jesus. And she was just trying to clean herself up. And then I assume all that stuff started
Starting point is 03:16:02 happened and she passed away from kidney failure. I remember a friend of mine, he saw her she was getting on an airplane and he was like whoa vanity and she went Denise and I was like he went oh I'm sorry and then she just got on the plane I was like damn
Starting point is 03:16:20 but it's kind of hard when you are famous for a name and then you want to get away from all that but she did leave us with some songs so I mean she's definitely she put her mark other than in acting. She had done a lot of small things.
Starting point is 03:16:43 Nothing huge. I do remember her in other than Last Dragon and Action Jackson. She was also in that 180s horror film. Terror Train. Was that it? Yeah, in 1980. She was in that. I just recently watched that.
Starting point is 03:17:05 I know I've seen that movie a million times. I did not realize she was in that until my last watch of it. Definitely a tear train is something that E-Sciety, or I'm going to cover. Diesel probably won't watch any of these films. With the 31 Days of Horror, those are coming up soon. We're in September now. She's done a lot of movies, but I think she's only mainly well-known more for The Last Dragon, as well as action jacks.
Starting point is 03:17:36 She's done other things, but she didn't do much. Pretty much her main film career was in the 80s, and she did like three films in the 90s, or four, I'd say. But yes, she is definitely missed. And rest in peace, vanity, or I'm sorry, Denise Matthews.
Starting point is 03:17:59 And as well as, what was the secretary's name? name in the film? The lady from a billion other movies, I can't remember her name. Oh, shit. God damn it. It's going to kill me now. Yeah, I won't be able to sleep until I remember.
Starting point is 03:18:19 Mary Ellen Triner. Yeah, her. Rest of peace to her, rest of peace to Kid Sable. Kids, able. Somebody else. There's a bunch of other ones. I'm sure there's more.
Starting point is 03:18:32 in there but uh yeah sannie that was a sad story even Arnold tried to help him I don't know why he couldn't pay for everything but
Starting point is 03:18:44 but anyway action Jackson cobra awesome films East Society just regular episode coming pretty soon as soon as we can get it recorded I know you guys just dropped your Bill and Ted
Starting point is 03:19:00 trilogy we're also also going to be well I'm going to be talking about that on the next E Society because I don't think a disease who's seen it as well as the new mutants
Starting point is 03:19:14 and what was that movie the not absolute power project power as well as a movie you guys talked about a little bit on horror returns
Starting point is 03:19:30 um one BR okay I checked that one out and I knew I trust you but if Lance liked it of course I got to see this I was shocked
Starting point is 03:19:44 with his with his him liking spoiler alert if you guys haven't heard the new the latest or returns that he liked Bill and Ted face the music and I did not agree with his
Starting point is 03:20:00 score for a bogus journey yeah it's like me and philip go back and forth if he always says you but i'm like lance i don't know where that guy's going with his score sometimes yeah i he made it sound he kind of fooled me i thought he was going to hate it but now he turned it around but uh definitely listen to that episode of you guys haven't yet and where we'll be in next few days probably after this comes out when the next east society will be out so everyone i got nothing else just check us out whenever you Follow us on Facebook, follow us on Instagram.
Starting point is 03:20:37 Just search E-Society and you'll see. You'll find everything that is us. Until next time, everyone, thank you so much for listening. And that's it on my end. So until then, until next time, be safe, wear your masks, and party on, dude. Yep. And just real quick, we got the John Carpenter Apocalypse trilogy coming on the horror returns. and on the next episode of the action returns,
Starting point is 03:21:07 we are doing 1986's raw deal in 1988's Red Heat Arnold episode. Ooh, I have to dig out my raw deal. I just bought Red Heat on 4K. So any reason I was open it up. I just bought it and put it on the shelf
Starting point is 03:21:27 like I do with every other movie. All right, everybody. And until the action returns, be safe.

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