The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #11: Raw Deal (1986) & Red Heat (1988)

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

This episode Brian and Nez come at you with a double dose of Arnold. Up first the 1986 action classic RAW DEAL. Then 1988's action comedy RED HEAT.  Plus a little of The Wrestling Returns talk about WWE Summerslam and Payback. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776          

You got some ID? Sure. So those three guys leave the hotel after you. Anything in particular or, uh, just a mug? They had trouble telling me what they wanted. Yeah, I'll bet. Joseph P. Brenner. What's a P. Stand?

P.S. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Action Returns. It's episode 11. I'm your host, Brian. With me, as always, is Nas. What's up, Nas? Yo, man, what's going on up there? Same old, same old.

Nothing's changed. Weather's getting colder. I am definitely getting bummed out about that. It means the snow's coming. I can't handle them. I can't handle no snow right now. Well, it's still hot here. I think we're going down to the 70s for like a day.

Then shoot back up to the 90s. but other friends here in California down in the southern part were like triple digits I'm like ooh so I'm glad I didn't go down there I wasn't go down there but now 117 now I'm good I'll stay up here where it was 90

I'll take some of that 70 you guys got I think it's like in the 30s here right now yeah it's not even snow oh man I got my swamp cooler going i was outside working sweating that i was in the shade sweating i was like oh my god yeah it usually around uh usually around october is when we see snow but the the weather's been

actually changing up here we've been getting snow later so but i i feel it coming definitely not looking forward to it we're usually good in september it's still a little warm We'll start to cool down probably middle of October. Sometimes the beginning, it depends. I mean, the way the weather's been. I don't know if it's going to be a rough winter. I think it's going to be, I mean, our winters have just been, like, it'll snow hard for like a day, and then the sun comes out and it's all gone.

Sounds nice. Sounds nice. When it snows there, it stays there. Yeah, it'll be. snow until like March. Oh man. Yeah. It's I don't know. I don't know. For someone

that doesn't like snow, I don't know how I ended up here. I'm supposed to be somewhere where it's sunshine every day. But what can you do? Well, don't go where the Zisu's at in Eureka, California. It's just overcast, like

year round. Oh, wow. I wouldn't mind that. I like it. it was sunny when I went there and he was like man it's weird it was like gray for weeks and then I showed there and the sun came out so I was like

oh man I was expecting it to be all gray nice and cool for a sweatshirt but now I was all sunny and everything it was hot to all them but it felt like perfect to me but they're right along the coast so I'm more inland so

I don't think we did this on the last show we we didn't do a little wrestling returns update but uh did you uh check out summer slam yeah I did I watched both of those I didn't get to see the AEW one

okay uh what you think of uh Roman reins turning heel um okay I mean I don't know as far as the the Paul Heyman deal but

um all right I'll go with it um It still seems like they're trying to put him over because it's still the crowd's just not feeling him ever. I mean, I've been down for him since the beginning. So I'm never, heal, baby phase, whatever they want to do with him. I'm still right there with him. So I'm down. But it was good to see him come back because it was at the end of SummerSlam when he returned.

I was all right. Yeah, see, that was kind of unexpected. So I was like, all right, cool. I mean, I was all for it. I got excited when he came running out. It was good to see that he's back because I know he stayed away from all this when the pandemic started. So I was like, well, he was just because of his health condition with his leukemia and everything. He's in remission, but, I mean, you don't want to take that chance of catching it.

And then it just kind of taking them down. But I'm sure that everyone is pretty much being tested, like, constantly. And I'm sure that I think they're going to start putting them on lockdown because I know there was some people that did have it. Performers as well as some of the other staff. So I don't know. I think Vince might have put everyone on lockdown. I mean, I think they would have had to in order for Roman Raines to come back.

so but I don't know well we'll see how it goes I mean as far as the matches at summer slam um that last mass of the fiend and bronze stroman uh I'm that was I was just never a fan of of um the bray white I like the theme I like how he looks I hate that fun house firefly fun house or whatever the hell it's called I think that's stupid and I didn't like all the previous things when the match with Sina and

so I was like, all right, at least they're in the ring and everything, but I just, I just don't feel I mean, especially when they put two big brutes up against one another. I mean, we're only going to get so many moves. Yeah.

They're just going to be thrown each other around. That's all pretty much that happened. I can't even remember the other matches. I think I remember payback more. But if I had to pick between out of pay-per-views, I thought payback was a little bit better. The card was better

and I got a little more excited with those matches. Mainly the women's matches. I loved all those. Good to see Oscar just kick-ass in both matches. It sucked. My girl, Sasha Banks, the boss, she lost her belt.

So I was kind of bummed about that, but Oscar's cool. yeah we'll see and uh they they lost their oh yeah they did they lost their um tag team titles to um uh shana basler and uh my girl nia jacks yeah yeah i love i love her you see the last week on raw i saw highlights what happened uh bailey finally turned on sasha oh yeah i knew that was coming you think it's too late for that or it's still going to play out how they want i don't know i mean every time they put someone together they always it always ends bad so but uh this uh nia jackson uh basler it's i know they hate each other well in on the show but uh i i liked what they were

doing i mean i thought they did a good tag team night jack she she can only do so much, but I still like how she just roughs everyone up. And I think she just goes a little too hard because she was throwing Sasha Banks around. It looked like

that was full force. So I don't know, because I know she clocked Becky and broke her nose that one time. But, well, I mean, yeah, she's trying to do what she's doing, but she's just not I'm sure it was an accident. I'm sure she didn't intentionally break her nose or when he's throwing these gals around.

But I don't know. We'll see. All right. Well, it's, it's on. Wait, one more thing. What did you think of the Thunderdome and the virtual audience? It's still weird to me, just like in any other sport. It's weird.

and I've seen some pictures of people getting away with some stuff on the screens. Have you seen any of those? I figured they would. I haven't seen anything. One person dressed like a clan member. And then another one was holding up a picture of Chris Benoit. Oh, damn. Yeah.

How do you? I know they send me emails, but I never really read into how to be in the audience. Because I figured if I did it, I mean, they'd probably put me way in the back and I never see myself. So I don't know. Did they build this little Thunderdome or was, is it somewhere? I think, I think they got, um, they got permission to use the stadium and they just kind of redid the whole inside. Well, he spent a lot of money because that's a lot of TV screens that are. in there. Yeah, he's

I watched this YouTube video. Vince is like seriously worried about the ratings. So there there's some rumors of some people coming back in the next couple months that he's I want a lot of money at right now.

Like retired people or there's the CM punk rumors started again. I read that he basically he's offering him money that that's kind of hard to refuse to come back. I know for the women,

what's, I forgot her name. She had that gimmick, the all red everything. You know what I'm talking about, right. Eva Marie? Yeah. I had to look at my pops because I know she, I have her, I got her when she quit, but. Yes, she's,

good to look at, but as far as her ring performance, I don't know what she's been doing other than maybe a lot of modeling and whatever she's doing with her husband, but I don't know. The last match I saw her in, I think it was WrestleMania, the one

that was in Dallas. I want her top fell off and they stopped the match. I think it was then. I can't remember, but there was one of the last times I saw she was really going for it. Because I know on her last few matches, She was coming out and then something would happen and her match would be canceled, but I don't know. I mean again, I know why they hire

Some of these women just because of their looks. Yes, she's a beautiful woman and everything, but she could not Ressel. She was no good on the mic. So yeah, I don't know. Why don't they just move up some of the NXT girls? Why are you bringing old scrubs back in? You know Vince don't like new stuff Man they just Um Rea Ripley bring her up And um Kansas Lurray And um

The girl with the green hair Um Oh uh Shotsie Blackheart Yeah her And I would love to see that tank Come out on Raw or Smackdown I mean bring there's a bunch of

Of gals on that roster they can bring up I mean even some of the dudes um but i don't know i don't know it's vince's money and it's his show so well with a lot of the guys i feel like when they do bring them up they waste them yeah where's ricochet man he was doing good for a while he just disappeared uh he was on a raw tonight all right did um um uh velveteen dream is he still around or did he go down for the he was at the last NXT takeover

okay so I guess they're kind of I know it got a lot of backlash because of his allegations and stuff but it looks like they're kind of sticking with him right now well all right um

but as far as Sam punk I know he's done the acting thing I mean I did like him in that little role he had in the Saska sisters a rabid I mean I didn't really care for the ending but um for what he was a little sleaze bag i thought he did his purpose of that i liked when he got all crazy and crashed into that little restaurant um i didn't see that girl

on the third floor or whatever that one is that that what he's pretty good in that one okay i know it's on netflix i haven't seen that yet but um i don't know man if he comes back for the money I know the whole sellout thing is going to start. But if he comes back, I'll be excited. I mean, as soon as I hear that music, the living color music, cult of personality, of course I'll, ah, I mean, I was down for punk. If they do it right, they can use that whole angle.

Like, they couldn't, the WWE couldn't cut it without him. So they had to bring him back. They could use that whole angle. If they do that and then he just goes off. I mean, I always thought he was good on the mic. I know some of you probably don't think so, but I was all about CM Punk during the Nexus stuff and everything. And once he became champ and he was the best in the world

and all the indie stuff he did, I was always down for him. So if he does come back and they play that angle, of course he'll be speaking from, from the heart and it'll be truthful but it'll probably Vince or probably go all right you just kind of tone it down because I mean of course I mean I don't know I mean

CM Punk has said a lot of things on different podcasts that it would never come back but if they throw that big money at you and I think you're just gonna you know what just all right man I know I said this but uh today's world man money talks so I don't know

I mean, but I mean, again, I mean, I'll be a little weird and I know everyone's going to talk shit, but I'll be right there for punk if he if he comes back. All right. You ready to get into these movies? All right. Let's do this. All right. We're going to start with 1986's raw deal. Be ready.

Beware. Schwarzenegger got a raw deal. And now he means business. I thought I made good lucky. No, it's you a turn. Raw deal. Open Friday, June 6th at a theater near you. Check localistic.

A former FBI agent turned small town sheriff agrees to help the FBI chief infiltrate the Chicago Mafia when the FBI chief's son is killed by them. this stars Arnold Schwarzenegger Karen Harold Darren McGavin Sam Wanamaker Paul Chenar

go with that Stephen Hill Ed Lader Joe Regal Buddha I'm totally butching in these names Robert Davy

this is directed by John Irvin written by Luciano Benzanzanoni Sergio Donat Donati I'm really having a hard time with these names Gary Devor

and Norman Wexler All right man What did you think of raw deal? Because I believe we both mentioned We haven't seen this movie in a long time Yeah I was I know I said this on the last episode When I was talking about Mike

when we were recording last night. We were talking about it because he asked him what we were doing next, and I told him, he was like, oh, Rawl Deal started laughing. I said, did we see that together? He goes, yeah, me, you, and our friend Rob went and saw this. And then I went, okay, I knew I'd seen a billion movies with Mike. I just forget which ones. Lucky's got a better memory than me, but I think that was the last time

that I watched it straight through back when it came out. and I might have seen maybe one other time on VHS when it first came out on VHS and that was still a long time ago. I did not remember this film at all. The only thing I remembered was the end when he goes riding into that

little rock pit quarry and blasting the Rolling Stones and shooting up everybody. As far as that, I couldn't remember who was in this and what was happening in it. But after this watch, it's streaming on Amazon Prime, everyone, if you guys haven't seen this. It's definitely worth a watch.

I think to me, this is one of Arnold's films that not a lot of people have seen and not a lot of people talk about. I mean, especially now. Big, when it came out in 86, yeah, we were all about it and it was all over the place. Because Arnold was the big thing then. but I thought this film was more of one of his serious roles because there was no one-liners. If he did, it might have been like one, but it didn't, not like Commando and Running Man

when it was every other line. But I thought he did a really good job in this one. I mean, once all the shoot-em-up action and the fighting starts, I think that's really cool. But the story was there. I really love what was happening. To see a lot of people in this that I had seen in multiple films, Darren McGavin, I love him, Colchak and the Nightstocker and everything.

He's also Ralphie's dad and Christmas Story and Billy Madison's dad and Billy Madison. But he's been in a ton of other movies. Everyone else that pops into this. Robert Davy, we just talked about him. and what was uh action jackson yeah yeah so i mean it was cool it was cool to see everyone

the one that the surprise me was um uh uh Arnold's wife in this um amy comitsky played by Blanche Baker yeah

I got that I just remember her from 16 candles she was a Sam's older sister the one that was getting married oh yeah I was trying to figure out who she was. I know I've seen her in other things,

but I just totally forgot that she was in this. Probably just didn't even think about it. But there was a lot of people in this. George P. Wilbur, he was, he's just a killer, number one in this. He played Michael Myers in, I believe it was part seven. Let me, let me see which one. I think it was part seven. Yeah.

Which was part seven? Was that the curse? Or was that? Damn it. Oh, he was in Halloween 5. He was, um, just as stunt player.

So, was that the revenge? Yeah, the revenge of Michael Myers. He was in that one. I think he just did all the stunt work for, um, Michael Myers.

Oh, that was cool to see. I mean, I'd, I'd, only know his face because of documents I've seen on Halloween and everything but again everyone

isn't in this was cool the story was really good just basically Arnold was a former FBI agent he ended up taking out one of some bad guy that raped and killed a little girl

so when he killed him he got basically you can either go to jail or be prosecuted or and quit the FBI. So he said he quit and they made him just kind of disappear, start a new life and go to some small little hicktown and be a sheriff. So that was his punishment

for taking some scumbag off the planet, which is cool in my book, man. You rape and kill little kids, man. You deserve to die. so but so that that's where the story begins Darren McGavin it was his former boss in the FBI his son gets killed in a in the beginning during a um

was it a drug raid and then he got killed uh was I think they were at a witness protection place oh that's right they were protected like a safe like a safe house yeah and his his uh Darren McGavin Harry Shannon, one of his sons was there, was an FBI agent,

and was it a Petro Vitas gang that came in, or was it Laura Mansky? These were the two crime families in this film. It was one of them. It was one of them anyway. They came in.

Oh, no, it was Petrovitas. Because that was the reason he had to infiltrate their crew. Okay. So he, his, Darren McGavin's son gets killed in the beginning. He just

wants justice for his son. So he goes to his old buddy Arnold. He plays Mark Kaminsky. Tells him, look, this is what's happening. I need you to go in there and kill these guys. And hopefully you can get your job back in the FBI. So he's like, all right. So he has to go into cover. And the other way to do that is he

set up himself to where he died. He blows up a, what was that like some kind of oil refinery? Yeah. And that's a, that, I don't know where that oil refinery was. And that, I don't know if the FBI would pay or do that because he just opened up some, it looked like an oil or a gas line or something and it spilled all over his car. He shot a flare into him.

But then the whole thing started to blow up. And is that worth? How much did that cost? And did they, I don't know, it's a movie everyone. So, but, so that's where it begins. He goes,

he's, he's, technically he's labeled dead. Mark Kermiski is dead. So he was able to go undercover into the FBI, into the streets of Chicago and try to get into,

was it, Luigi, Patroveda, Sam, uh, Wanamaker's, a crew. Yeah. And be just one of his,

hitman. Yeah, and this is this is all this is all unsanctioned like technically he's not doing this for the FBI. It's like mission impossible. Yeah. No, but I mean that I love I thought that was a good story to start it off and once you go from there you know how it goes it turns into Arnold to shoot him up and beat everyone down because in order to get into Petrovita's good graces he had to take out some of another crime boss in Chicago Martin Leminski take out some of his he took out one of Lamenski's

little underground casinos and roughed up some of his men and everything so he was just trying to look good for them and so because they knew they they need more bad guys to protect Petrovita so that's how he ends up getting in but there's always one guy that never really trusts the new persons and that was Robert Davy. He played Max

Keller and was Paulo Roca, um Sosa, was he like second in command? Yeah, second. Okay. But he, he always seemed like he was the one in charge. Yeah, I mean, he I'm sure he had some kind of

excuse me, he had some kind of back deal to look at let's take him out and then I'll be the crime boss of Chicago. But, I mean, other than that, I mean, that was pretty much the story. But when Arnold gets into action, I mean, he was just all smooth, all business, just rolled around in suits and kicked a lot of ass. Yeah, he wore a lot of fucking suits in this movie. So, but I mean, I really liked what was happening in it.

It was a really good story. And, I mean, at least had a point. it wasn't just going there, shoot them up and get out of there. But, I mean, the story was good. When the action was there, I mean, there was a lot of shootouts, and when Arnold had to go hand-to-hand,

I thought all that was cool. There was a lot of bad guys in this one. I mean, it was just on both sides. They got two crime families, and then you got crooked FBI agent that was actually, because they said they knew there was a leak and a mole in the FBI.

They just didn't know who it was. But then when we finally find out who it is, we see that he's the reason why the Petroveda family is like one step ahead of the law and everything. I mean, but other than that, I mean, it was cool. I mean, all the shootouts, I mean, especially the scene in the beginning when he goes into the casino and just goes in there and lets them know that the craps table wasn't leveled because they throw these little balls onto the thing. to see it on his level and it kind of just stops in the middle and everyone goes crazy. He flips over starts beating the hell out everyone. I love

how he threw that one dude up on top of that little air duck thing. Yeah. One drug dude didn't even phase him. He just stood there and start put money in his pockets and grabbed his drink. He didn't kill anyone. He just beat everyone up, right?

Yeah, he was pretty much up until the final little action scene throughout most of the movies he was just like beating people out that's right because he never really tried to kill

anyone who was this girl that just came out of nowhere the one that wanted him which she who was she working for I can't remember because I remember when she was digging through his wallet in his passport she called someone wasn't she working for the

what family was it the Petra the one he was going undercover with Oh, okay. So she was either talking to Keller. No, she wasn't talking to her because she hated him. She was probably talking to Roca or Sosa, whatever you guys want to call. She was probably talking to him because it seems like it was either him or Keller,

but she hated Keller because he was a creep. He was always trying to get on it. I mean, that's how it was in these movies, especially when you're in crime families, you think you can just do what you want and have any woman you want. But sometimes these women just don't want nothing to do with you. Because, so he was working with her. So she ended up kind of falling for Arnold's character. His name, once he went undercover, he became Joseph P. Brenner,

which is actually another bad guy. It was, I guess, at least kind of had a name. But so he kind of took his identity. You notice nobody questions. his accent ever. Yeah, I mean, in every movie, except for the next one, we're all going to talk about.

Again, this one was just more serious. I think this is probably why out of everything Arnold did in the 80s, everything was one line or one line, well, except for Predator, like Terminator and stuff like that, but majority of the stuff that came out after those films was just

I know this came out If it wasn't right before Predator I know it was either right before it or a film In Between or whatever But Um After he was just trying to get in there He was just kicking ass

And beating everyone up And every chance he got Because the The Lamaminski family They were always sending guys To try to get him To take him out

just mainly because he ruled Arnold ruined their casino in the beginning. But I love that whole scene in the dress shop when they tell him, yeah, just go find him and rough them up, make him send a message, make sure you do it in public and then kill him. How many dudes rolled in there, like four or five? At least. He just started whoop an ass, and then his girl jumped in and started to help out. I loved all that.

Did she steal that dress at the end? Yeah, I think so, because she ran back in there and grabbed her jacket or whatever and just grabbed that. She was wearing one. Yeah, she said something. It's hard to find my size or something. Yep. The part I liked in that scene is when after Arnold told the ladies that worked and I called the cops, this is a robbery. And that one lady just was running out, move out of the way, bitch.

knocked her over and just he just basically destroyed that store threw one guy through the window and just beat the hell out of everyone else and then they all just ran out of there did they try to come after him again uh no i don't think so at this point

did uh the leminski guy did he he did get killed because remember they um they chased them uh uh uh they were on that pier with the

big ferris wheel on. Those are either living in Chicago or know that there's a pier's a pier out there with a ferris wheel and all that. I can't remember the name of that pier because they were chasing him through there.

And then I remember Leminski was in one of the cars that they were chasing because they kind of had a shootout and then his car they thought they were getting away,

but they fell off that loading dock and just slammed right into that that gas truck that was... I don't know why that truck was there, but all right. There's always a gas truck or something. Because that's how he went. He blew up and went out.

So that family was done. So I think it just went more back into him still trying to stop Petrovita. Was he supposed to kill him or just bring him to justice? I kind of felt like maybe kill him because this was off the books unsanctioned. This was his friend coming to him for a favor.

Because he's basically hired an assassin to go in there. Yeah. All right. Because this was Arnold's way of getting back into the FBI because we, you know, we didn't mention that his wife is not really. having this lifestyle you know she's drinking she's upset you know they're in the middle of nowhere and this was an opportunity for him to to get back in i don't know man but she should well i don't know i don't know i don't know nothing of being in law enforcement or fbi or anything but she should have just we lucky he's not in jail i mean because they said

either retire or do this or you can be prosecuted because if he was prosecuted, he would have been in prison and she would have had nothing. So I don't know. It's a movie everyone, but she was just a drunk bitch, man. She was pissing me off, man. And I was like, man, because that one girl, the Arnold was hanging out with, she was pretty much spread open and ready to throw it at him. But he was like, no, I'm married.

And good for him, man. Yeah, because he did that one. scene like she was trying to take him to bed and then he acted like he passed out. Yeah, he was probably gonna. I said, I better just act like him. That was when she went through his wallet

and told everyone who he was because Raka and Keller they still weren't buying it. So they went, they did it more deep dive into who this was and they found out one of their former snitches found out

that that Kaminsky or Brenner Arnold's character was not Brenner because they were looking at a picture he goes I don't know who this is but that ain't Brenner and they asked where is he because I think he's in the Bahamas or something

so they're like all right so they kind of knew that he wasn't who he said he was and they always thought that so because Robert Davy's character Max Keller was like he never trusted him he just kind of well I guess he thought he was going to be replaced because

when Arnold went in for his interview he was talking hell of shit because Ersten Keller was like, well, I'm the number one guy and Arnold said something stupid to like, well, I'm going to take that spot. So they kind of set them up. They're like, all right, well, we need Rockatollum. He said, look, we need

you, we need Arnold and Keller and some other guy. Just another hitman dude to go take out somebody at a cemetery. So you get the, there's a, there's a funeral service going on, but then you see somebody's back to the, to us to where he's kneeling down at a grave site. And Arnold and Keller and this third guy come walking up, guns loaded, and they're getting ready to blast them.

But then that person stands up from the grave and turns around, and it's Darren McGavin's character, Shannon. So he's kind of like, Harry! And then that's when Keller was like, fuck, I knew it. So they kind of turned their guns on Arnold. and one of the dude the third guy has a shotgun he blasts darry mcgavin he kind of goes down uh then arnold turns and starts firing at keller as well as the third guy kills both of them and then runs up to harry shannon and asking me he's like just get out of here man he goes the the cops are going to be here man don't worry i'll be all right so

arnold just takes off and by this time he realized he knows that his cover is blown and everyone's going to be after him. So this is when he loads up. Well, first he tells that one goes, look, you got to get out of town, get lost. And I'm going to go do what I got to do because he goes back to his hotel and loads

up all those guns. Did you realize when he has all those guns, he loads up a shotgun, some kind of machine gun, that little, I don't know what that little hand machine gun was, as well as his pistol. he goes he starts shooting up all the the bad guys at this

like rock quarry type of thing and this was a stunt and a half I mean he's driving around gunning up and killing everybody that's basically a front for those drugs and money in this trailer that these guys were counting and then bagging up cocaine or heroin or whatever it was

when he goes driving around blast them all up and they're shooting at him I mean, he hits everyone, but as close as he came to them when they were all shooting, he never got hit other than the car. But when he goes slamming into that big bulldozer, I mean, I don't know who that stunt driver was, but you could see him slam into the steering. And another big rig comes up and sandwiches that car. When Arnold jumps out, he just got his little machine gun.

But somehow he was able to grab. his pistol, the other little handheld machine gun and his shotgun. Of course. I was kind of like, wait a minute, but all right, he's Arnold. He can do what he wants. Because after he killed everyone there, he took, I think he took like half a million dollars from them. And then he took off and then he went back to Petrovita's layer and goes in there. and this is the huge gun battle.

I don't even remember how did you get in there? I don't even remember. I don't even remember. I just remember he just went on a killing spree. Oh, he came up through the elevator. And then, because they all started shooting there when the elevator stopped. And then you hear banging around in the air vents and he comes shooting out. And then did he starts gunning up everyone.

I like this because everyone that all the henchmen that were in there was a somebody you'd seen them They're they must be in the book of henchmen. Hey, we're making this movie. We need you you you you and you They brought them all in one of the dudes was in I know he was in Predator and he was That game show guy's bodyguard in running man Oh the that isn't he in the next movie we're about to talk about too? Yeah, he's in that as well. Yeah.

It was crazy. I mean, again, you just, these are the henchmen of the 80s that you just got to have. Because they're all big giant dudes and they have faces that you don't know they're names, but you know who they are. That's, that's what's lacking from action movies nowadays. There's like maybe one or two people

that I see that pop up as henchmen nowadays. And I only know them because they're like former like mima fighters but it's not like the 80s yeah i mean again they they have a book of bad guys or actors that are bad guys and they just get that book and all right we want all of you come on we'll just put you in a suit and give you a gun and just started shooting arnold but i mean that that was cool i mean it is arnold yes he's the hero of it but all these hit hitch killers or hitman or whatever you want to call him are all bad shots.

The place is riddled with bullets and Arnold never gets hit. He was only bleeding because I think he got hit when he was at that little rock quarry when he stole all the money because his arm was bleeding then. Is that what happened? Because his jacket was all tore up the sleeve. Yeah, I think he got shot there or caught his. on something but because he didn't get it in there he went in there and blasted everybody in there and uh the petrovita he was there and all pretty much uh raka and the uh fbi i snitch he was in there and all the henchmen so arnold just went in there and just started blasting everybody

uh he killed petra vita he tried to run i think he shot him oh he shot him in the back of his shotgun and then he goes falling down what was with the candy he walked up and dumped that big bowl of candy on him I don't know that was weird I don't even think they even like reference candy or anything earlier

but after he goes back into the main room where bodies are laying everywhere the the FBI guy that was a rat and everyone out Marvin Baxter he was there and look was he trying to kill himself

because he had that pistol and he was like holding it to his I think he was I think he knew if they brought him in what was going to happen because Arnold gave him when he when the gun was empty he handed him a pistol and said here either retire I think that's what he said or be prosecuted because that Marvin Baxter guy he was the one

that took down Arnold when he was it was because of him that he got a booted out of FBI So he handed him that gun and he kind of walked away And that dude jumped up and acted like he was going to shoot Arnold And Arnold spun around really quick and pumped a few into him And that was it

So they left there And then we go to Harry Shannon Darren McGavin's character He survived that shotgun blast But he kind of took some to I think his spine or something Because he was a little crippled so we had the little emotional scene where Arnold came in.

I hated this scene. I mean, but I felt it. I mean, but he did because Baxter was like, I'm not, I don't need to walk anymore. Arnold was,

look, man, I helped you out. So I'm, you help me out. So I'm here to help you out is what they said. So, Darren McGavin starts slowly walking around,

or just barely moving and got to Arnold. They hugged and the awesome 80s freeze frame and then the movie's over. Well, they had to add to the drama too because you remember he tells him that his wife's pregnant. Oh, yeah, that's right. And he's got to be like the god dad or something. And you got to walk. You got to take that step. I don't know.

I just hated this whole thing. Well, he did tell him he was looking. man, I got home and Amy was all good. Now I'm back in the FBI. Now she can go on her spending sprees and spend all my money. That was the only reason why she was mad and drunk because she couldn't live the life that she was used to, just spending all of Arnold's money.

But that's some women that I know. Not all you young ladies out there, but there's some gold diggers out there. She seemed like one of them because she was just ungrateful. We can't live here. and she was all drunk. But it still looked like they were doing good. They weren't like living in some little one house or one room shack.

Yeah, a nice little house. He was a sheriff of town. I mean, it could have been worse. Yeah, it could have been living in a trailer somewhere. And he could have been a security guard. But I don't know. That was her. But anyway, I assume she quit drinking because he knocked her up because it's not good to be drinking when you're pregnant.

so but yeah the happy ending in the freeze frame or the 80s I still love when they do that I mean I don't know if any movies do it today but they did it fucking almost every other movie in the 80s but again

this Arnold film it's good I mean I'm glad that we talked about it and we we um it's I think it's just one that's never really talked about that much that I mean all out of all the pods that I've listened to I mean, everyone talks about running man or Terminator or Commando or something, but no one ever does this one.

So it was good to rewatch. And I was glad it was on Amazon because I'm sure we had to search other means to get to this one. But overall, what did you think of the whole thing? It's definitely not one of my favorite Arnold 80s movies, but I think if you are a fan of Arnold, you owe it yourself to watch it. there's some good action in here some good hand-to-hand stuff it's different seeing him kind of play this undercover role

where he's not really trying to just murder everybody through the entire movie like say Commando where he just goes on a killing spree throughout the movie and yeah I didn't realize between these two movies that we're going to talk about

Arnold was just wearing so many suits more suits than I've ever seen them in and I thought the cast was good. The story was pretty good. And, yeah, I had fun with most of it. It's just I couldn't get with that overly happy ending that just happened. I couldn't get with it. Well, they had to show that.

I mean, to show that kind of the more friendship of Arnold and Darren McGavin's character. Yeah, but they threw in the wife as all of a sudden, she's just conveniently okay with everything and they're going to have a kid and it's a little too much happiness for me well I guess there's happiness in this next one as well but we're going to go to 1988 to a Walter Hill classic well I guess it's a classic red heat I'm Ivan Danko Moscow's special police I'm here to track down dangerous Soviet criminal. A Chicago police officer is helping me.

The Chicago cop never relinquishes his weapon. Here. Now I know why we invented vodka. Arnold Schwarzenegger, James Belushi, Red Heath. A tough Russian policeman is forced to partner up with a cocky Chicago police detective when he is sent to Chicago to apprehend a Georgian. Georgian drug lord who killed his partner and fled the country. Where was the other synopsis?

I kind of like that one a little more. A dedicated Soviet cop arrives in Chicago where he is reluctantly teams up with a foul-mouthed American detective to comb the streets of the windy city for a Russian drug dealer who killed both their partners. Now that's a synopsis right there. That's why, I mean, if you just Google, Google it. They always have one there, so I kind of go back and forth on those.

Yes, directed by Walter Hill and produced by Walter Hill also did. He wrote the story as well as the screenplay with Harry Kleiner and Troy, Kennedy Martin, and yeah, those three guys did it. Geez, 35 million is what a box office. It doesn't say what the budget was for this film.

But, of course, we're still in Chicago that looks like L.A. at some times. But, I mean, this one was cool, man. I have not seen this one in a really long time. I picked up the 4K edition. I think it was like $10 at Walmart, so I had to get it. I know I'd have it on DVD somewhere as well as VHS. But this was one of the ones that when I seen it, I left the theater like, eh,

Yeah, that was okay. I was, what, 17 when I saw this? I only saw it the one time in the theater, as well as raw deal. But I know I've seen this again when it came out on VHS. And I think the last time I watched this before this rewatch was when it came out on DVD, however long ago that was. Watching it now, 2020, Niz, I think I enjoyed it more than I did the very first time. I did enjoy this one more. I mean, I loved Rar Deal.

It was a good film, but I love this one a little more just because of the comedy aspect of George, of James Volusci. I thought he was funny when he had to. There wasn't many one-liners in this as well, so I thought that was cool. My only problem with this film

was Arnold's Russian accent. It came and went. And it was just a certain word, that a friend of mine, he speaks a fluent Russian and he was like, oh my God, man, what was he trying to do with this film?

But everybody in it was cool. I love Edel Ross. We talked about him and Action Jackson. He's in this. Peter Boyle, Frank, from everyone knows Raymond, and he played the monster

and young Frankenstein. A very young, slim and trim, Lawrence Fishburn. uh Richard bright um Byron James uh the ice man

he's in this uh Peter Jason's in it for a second when he's on TV uh as another well Walter Hill likes to use a lot of the guys uh that he's uh dead other films with like uh

Baron or Brian I don't know I think it's Brian or Baron whatever James uh he was Iceman in uh another 48 hours but he wasn't in the first one as well. And the black gentleman that was working for the ice man, he was also in this.

He was the guy in prison, the blind dude. I think the guy we're talking about the dude that was in the running man. His name is, I think it's Savin, Oli Thorson. I will go with that. These are the films you guys know him from. he was a gladiator hard target the running man

um predator the rundown uh end of days um let me see what else Cole the Conqueror that was garbage

um eraser he was in that bulletproof uh he was a Laforz for you Kevin Smith fans and mall rats um he was in a Clint Eastwood

favorite of yours uh pink Cadillac garbage I'm I try he was in twins as well and he's jean lethal weapon

oh man he's he still is he still acting now um the last thing he did was 2011 so I don't know maybe he's just

kicking back with all his money but yeah he's in this he's just one of the the dudes one of the background guys but I can't leave out the beautiful Gina Gershond

She's in this oh yes please I think she's like pushing 60 And if she's not in her 60s already But man she is 58 Oh yeah Woo Still looks hell of good I follow her on Instagram so I know

She's still hot But I've liked her in everything that she pops up in But Edel Ross as Victor Rostale. We'll go with his alias when he went to America. It was just Victor Rasta. Yeah. Arnold is Ivan Duncan and Jim Belushi is Art Ridski or Rizzit.

Rizzi, I don't know. How do you say? Rizzik. Peter Boyle was, was he like the police chief? Yeah, he was a, they kind of did a play on him. they didn't want to make him the stereotypical yelling all the time police chief he was the uh trying to he was almost like what's his name from bad boys because he was trying to do all the woo saw the the spiritual calm down type stuff yeah and uh uh lawrence fishburn was lieutenant stobbs he was just one of the cops that didn't agree with uh what was happening

but uh edel ross character victor uh he was just uh he was just a drug dealer in Russia and then he kind of killed Arnold's partner during a little raid when they were trying to bring him in and he he kind of defected to America

so he's hiding out there how did they find out he was in Chicago he got arrested for I think it was like a routine traffic stop and he had I think of something about his license was fake or something they ran his name

Oh, yeah, that's right. But then they find out that he was He was born in America, but then went to Russia. But, I mean, I thought he, I mean, Edo Ross is cool. I like him in everything he's done.

Even if it's just a small little role, I think this is probably one of his main roles where he was the bad guy the whole time. But Arnold was good. He's in physical shape. I don't know what was up with that bathhouse scene in the beginning. I don't know if I could sit in a room with a bunch of naked ladies and guys and loincloths and all that, but I don't know.

It would be hard. Maybe it's a Russian thing. I don't know. Because everybody was kind of minding their business in there. Yeah, I didn't see any tents popping up in there. I don't know what was up with the loin cloths. I mean, I like my butt covered as well. Yeah, I was, I don't know.

Why don't you just cover everything or? Because Arnold was all muscle, all even in the back. I was watching some of the extras. They said he purposely flexed his butt muscles when he was walking up the stairs. I was like, oh, damn. I'm sure he did. You ever see him in a, what's that bodybuilding movie? He did, Pump and Iron.

Pumping iron, yeah. Yeah, he's he's he's he's hella cocky in real life. So I can, I definitely believe that. But he went in there to get somebody, well, someone that didn't really have nothing to do with the story. And they ended up fighting in the snow. And these guys are stronger than me because I don't know how cold it is in snow in Russia but falling out of a hot

sauna room into the freezing snow and then start fighting I don't know did he did he get punched in the jaw right there is that's why that Mark was there the whole movie? Later on I think I don't think it was from this fight because because we get the badass scene where they drop the hot coal in his hand and make him hold it and then he knocks it then he knocks the guy through the window And then he's fighting with the the one guy the that's in all the movies that we just talked about but I don't I don't think he got that mark here I think oh he got it when he went into the when they tried to arrest Victor the first time

When yeah when they when him and his partner went into that little bar Mm-hmm and then it just turned into a shootout he got he got punched in the fit well he started fighting first before they started pulling out their guns And I don't know what kind of gun that was but I I don't know. I know it was a Russian gun. He said it in the film, but I, I didn't like the way that barrel looked. It just,

I don't know. I mean, I don't know nothing much about guns, but I just didn't like the way his gun looked in that one. But Victor ends up getting away after the big fight and shootout that they have in there. He actually ends up killing, no,

when Victor's out and gets away, Arnold's partner, I can't remember his name. He ends up. catching him and he's trying to get him and then the victor turns around and ends up shooting uh arnold's partner and kills him yeah his name was uh yuri all right yeah he was one of the little blonde guys so he was that was the main reason why they send arnold to uh america to uh go get victor bring him back i take it they were going to bring they weren't going to try trial do a trial

or anything in russia were they just going to bring him back and kill him i think so So, because they kept saying he's bringing that, we need to stop him from bringing that American poison to our country. And then you get some backstory on him and who his father was. And they got that whole thing where Lawrence Fishburn's, like, he was tried for Brigandage. And they were like, what's that? And Arnold's like burning and burning villages and raping women. So he's got quite the background. so when he got to Chicago did he just immediately hook up with that black organization I can't

remember what they called themselves remember they were all bald I think this was I don't know because I always thought that this was always his connect because I kept saying bringing that American poison and so I just kind of felt like he was always dealing with them. Okay, so the dude that was in prison, Abdul Elijah, he was the main guy, right? Yeah, the, what did I call him, the clean heads? Yeah, yeah. He was, um, Tyrone Burroughs in another 48 hours. He was the one that was working for the Iceman in that one. That's like the only thing I ever seen him in other than in this. I didn't even know he was in this. I totally forgot.

He was in prison for some bad drug thing probably, but that's where he was running it all from because they had to go there and find out why Victor went to them. And I think that's when they told him again. Yeah, that was when they told him that we were in his connection. They were shipping it all back and forth to Russia and everything. Was it just Coke or was it heroin? think it was just coke going back to the fight when that when they first got into the victor um

uh the times that i've seen coke uh in bags uh being smuggled but um these just little small little bags that one they're not big bundles like in scarface or anything um uh my friend's brother was a bad guy he's in jail now so you kids stay away from drugs don't deal drugs you end up in prison anyway um the one of a victor's crew um arnold that kind of started fighting with him grabbed him and flipped him over i thought he snapped his leg because i was like it made his snap yeah but then he pulls off his prosthetic leg and dumps out coke um did they just scoop it and just dump it in there and or i didn't understand what that was for been different if it was like wrapped up in a bag

but they like just dumped it in their raw because he just ended up dumping it out. I was like, I don't know if I want Coke after some guy's sweaty stump who was sweating all over it. Yeah. I'm sure they cut it up with something before they put it out in the street.

So yeah, we find out that he was dealing with Abdul, Elijah, and his crew. Victor was, and they were going to bring all the Coke over, all the American poison over to Mother Russia. So that's pretty much the story. They were just trying to stop him, and he was just a drug dealer. There was nothing really, like, surprising. Like, it was Arnold's brother or something like that.

I mean, the story was pretty self-explanatory, like right from the get-go. So you just had to throw the Arnold action in it. And then, yeah, another one, this is another one where it was just, he had his Russian, I assume, police uniform. And then he rolled in with the green pimp suit. Are they police or because they look more military? I assume they were police because I doubt they would send a military soldier over to get them. I don't know. I mean, I don't know how they do things.

over there, but I just assumed he was a police officer. Yeah. So the rest, I mean, they're just trying to just find Victor and get him. They all have close calls, but he always ends up getting away. When Gina Gershaw's character comes in, she plays Cat Manzetti. She is, they find out that she is, well, she tells them, because they go to question her and want to know why she was dealing with Victor, and she's, oh, that's my husband. but then later we find out that she was basically just helping Victor stay in the country without having a travel visa or whatever.

So because she got paid, I don't know how much to just basically do the fake green card thing. So that was like it was 50,000. Yeah, that was the reason why she was in this, but I didn't mind it. she's hot i loved her and everything she's done her movies aren't the best but i can deal i can deal with it i did like her in uh what was that movie with nichols cage uh face off yeah that one but the movie is what it is everyone um i really liked that one she did with jennifer tilly were they bank robbers oh yeah what was that one bound yes yeah yeah I haven't seen that in a while, but I, I remember the parts.

Yeah, they got some nice scenes together in there. So, I mean, that was pretty much it. They were just running around chasing them and getting into a lot of gun fights. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it's a straightforward story. You know, he's just kind of, he's after this guy that is a drug dealer. And they got a little bit of a history because, uh, uh, Rasta, Victor Rasta, he mentions that, Arnold killed his brother before.

So they got a little bit of a pass. So you can tell he's been after Victor for a minute. All right. Okay, I just wanted to see what he was. Captain Ivan Donko and Lieutenant Yuri, his partner of the Moscow militia. That sounds military to me. It says the Moscow police officially,

the main, the decorative of the Eternal Affairs in the city of Moscow. So it says police force. So, all right. Well, that's what they are. And Victor is just a drug pin, a drug kingpin over there in Russia.

So, yeah, that was pretty much the story of the whole thing. And then you just throw in the comedy of James Belushi because he's basically just, um, they just team him up. He's supposed to be like the, babysitter. Yeah.

He was like one of those just those hot head cops that just likes to do everything his way. And you know what? We're going to give you an assignment. Yeah, he's essentially his character from, what's that movie, K-9?

Yeah. He's like the same guy. You just switch Arnold out with the dog. But he was funny through the old thing. I liked him. Again, there wasn't that many one-liners, one or two at the most. But the comedy of Jim Belushi, he can be serious and he can be funny when he had to.

But I really like Tim. Edel Ross is always a good bad guy. Lawrence Fishburn was the asshole of the film because there was always one asshole in the police force. And man, he was slim and trim. But then this was 88. Now he looks, not how Pops looks now and blackish, but he's still out there doing it. What was he in John Wick? Yeah, he's he was the

The guy that was like the the boss of like the underground with all like the homeless people or the people that were acting like they were homeless or something The something king He had a name The bario king There you go Yeah So It was good to see him I mean it's good to see him when he pops up in anything

Yeah, it's kind of a bummer I I guess he said that he hasn't been asked to come back for the Matrix. He has to. I mean, that was pretty much Neo's mentor. I mean, they're bringing everybody else back, so might as well.

I don't see why they shouldn't, but I don't know. I'm sure Keanu's got a lot of pull in it. Look, man, he's got to be in this. I don't know. Keanu, if you listen, make sure that Larry Frischburn,

is in this. I was watching Dream Warriors when he was Larry Fishburn. Do what you got to do when you're in Hollywood, everyone. Again, this film is good. I mean, I loved it.

Of course, they end up getting the bad guy. I think one of the scenes I remember was mainly because of the trailer when they're doing the showdown with Victor in the buses. When they jump in, well, there was a bus that was coming in to Chicago.

I can't remember where it was coming from, but it was loaded up with drugs and money. So that was the reason. Because when Victor got to America, he had a locker key, and that's where he had all his money for this big drug deal that was going to happen later on in the film. But Arnold ended up getting it from him during one of their altercations. So Victor was looking for Arnold. Arnold was looking for Victor or Ivan was looking for Victor just to get that key. And that key was went to a bus locker and that's where all the all his money was.

So when they got the money, they did the trade and then the drugs, but then it goes sideways. Arnold and Jim Belushi go running. Biz, they killed all the black guys, right? Yeah. Throughout the movie, it was mostly Arnold. And then the, not the main guy, but the main guy that was doing the deal outside of prison, And Victor killed him in the, it was a double cross. He killed him in the bathroom when he was counting.

And that's such an odd place to count millions of dollars is in the public bathroom. Yeah, I mean, left got my car and started counting the money. Yeah, because he went in there and just opened up his suitcase and started counting. And then Victor walks in and blasts him and grabs all the money. Yeah, he wasn't even in a stall or nothing, just right down the counter. Yeah, he didn't even have any like, backup with him. Well, they were all dead.

Oh, that's right. Did they kill him all before he? Yeah, that, yeah, it was at the hotel. They went to go kill Ivan. Oh, yeah, that's right. They went with Victor and Victor told him the wrong room to kind of set him up to have Ivan killed him. And then he went for the key.

That part was fucked up. Because when all those black guys charged. into that room that Victor told him to go into. Some dude just finished working up with some hooker. She was sitting there, chilling, and

they come in and blast him. He comes running out of the shower, just dick swinging and they fill him up with holes. I loved that she pulled out her little gun and started shooting out of. But yeah, that was in that big old gunfighter, man,

because Arnold goes running after Victor and Jim Belushi they just started blasting everybody that was in there. Yeah, because he has that big ass revolver now that he got from Ritzig because they took his gun at the police station. Yeah, because it was a, how hell did you get this into? And he said he had the diplomatic immunity.

Yeah, it made me think of lethal weapon too. He had that. well I guess you can do what you want but you can't bring in weapons foreign weapons into the country but yeah especially especially if you use them I don't think that's allowed it's not like they don't do that anyway but anyway it's another show but anyway all right god damn it all right I owe you one because you saved my life tonight here Captain Denko you are now the proud owner of most powerful handgun in the world.

Soviet buttering 9.2 millimeter is world's most powerful handgun. Come on, everyone knows the Magnum 44 is a big boy in a black. Why do you think 30 Harry uses it? Who is 30 Harry? So once Victor gets away with the money and everything, because he jumps on a bus,

Arnold jumps in a bus and starts hauling ass after him. I don't know if you've ever been to Chicago, but those streets were pretty, empty for them to be doing this busing and the times that I've driven in Chicago like LA and New York when those streets are always packed especially where they were but hey it's a movie but I loved how they were chasing each other and just slamming in the cars left and right just trying to get the hell out of there but then they end up facing each other and that this is the the standoff the playing chicken

because they were just hauling ass at each other. James Volusie is the one that made me, that had me laughing in this, because Arnold and Victor were just serious. They didn't give a fuck. Because they were gunning it, going straight for each other, right? With Ritzik, he kept going,

tired, turn, or swerve? Then he grabbed the wheel and swerved, and they kind of went and crashed somewhere else. Oh, yeah, they flipped. Yeah, because Ivan was so serious because Ritzig was yelling at him. He was like, you could have killed us. And Ivan was like, yeah, but we would have killed Victor, too.

I just love him. They went, ah, started screaming. Well, lucky he did grab the wheel in turn because they ended up flipping over. And Victor's, his bus went flying straight and thought he got away with it. And then he got blindsided by a freight train. I guess soon that train must have just been starting its run, because if it was coming full speed, it would have went right through that bus.

But it was funny. I liked how they go running over there after they climb out of the bus. And Victor's still alive because you can clearly see the way the train hit the bus. It didn't really, it didn't blow up or crash through it or anything.

So Victor ends up jumping out. And then the train operator was screaming at Victor. You motherfucker, you could have killed both of us. And then Victor just pulled gun and blasted. Did he use his, we didn't mention, he had one of them sleeve things that the gun

pops out. He used quite a bit throughout this movie. Did he shoot? Oh, he, that's what he shot the dude with in the bathroom with. Yeah, he had a silencer on it. Yeah, he killed killed his partner. I have his partner too

with that. That's right in the beginning. Did he, I don't even remember how Arnold got him. Arnold just shoots him I don't know Did he pull out that little wrist gun again? I think he tried to

but this is probably one of the points of the movie that I didn't really like because this was kind of after the whole bus thing it just kind of it was kind of anticlimactic

the whole showdown between him because he kind of just kills Victor and I think he tries to use the sleeve gun again. Yeah, I'm trying to...

I don't even remember how he killed. After the bus, I know they had another standoff, but I don't... I don't remember how he killed it. Well, obviously he shot him, but I don't remember how he shot him. Sorry, everyone.

That's just... My old mind is going. I don't remember. I remember it a lot, though. I just don't remember how it did. Yeah. I know he Victor climbs out of the wreckage

and Ivan chases him and I think they just have a standoff and he shoots him I want to say he is somebody's probably correcting us right now but I want to say he tries to use the sleeve gun and okay um I found the scene uh let me try to give you guys a play by Marshall I hate fucking ads they're killing me.

I know they got to make their money. All right. Okay, everyone. All right. Arnold punches his way out of the windshield or the bus. It's flipped over on the side. Him and, how do you say his last name?

Rizzyk or? Yeah, they get out. Rizzyk. He's, Arnold is scream, or Ivan is screaming at Jim Belushi and Russian and they don't know what the hell's happening. So, and this is when Victor shoots the train conductor or operator.

Ivan grabs his big dirty hairy gun, says, I'll take care of this. He's staring at Jim Belushi, and Jim Belushi is just like, I give up. This is very Russian. So he goes walking after him, and they just do a little standoff. like this like a showdown. He comes walking out of the steam. Victor starts shooting, pumps out a couple of rounds. Arnold shoots like once or twice,

hits Victor with every shot. And just, yeah, that's it. Arnold never gets hit. But Arnold's bleeding out of his forehead from the crash in the bus. So he blasts Victor up against a train. And there comes Jim Volusci. I'm sure he's going to say something.

Oh Ghibli walks up Jim Volusci walks up to and goes Did you get him? And then Arnold just looks at that. I mean Arnold was just too serious in this. I don't know.

He was almost like he was the Terminator in this movie. Well, my friend was born here in America and his parents are Russian. But I don't remember them being so serious. I don't know, but Yeah.

I had a Russian friend. growing up and he wasn't nowhere because it was it was almost like you took the Terminator and put him in this movie and put him in a green suit and had him speak

Russian because he was very overly serious and Terminator 2 when he first came that see that was my I mean I loved the I liked all the Terminator films actually but I know we're supposed to be talking about ready but anyway um in terminator when he comes Arnold comes the the T one oh one or

whatever that his model number is when he comes his hair's not all spiky it's it gets spiky because he gets burned and if he's coming yes but when he comes back in T2 and the original one obviously the same yeah mold and everything did they like program hey man let let's spike up his hair because they didn't like how his hair looked uh the first we sent them. And every time he came back, his hair was all spiky. But even in Terminator Salvation when the CGI Arnold was fighting, that one dude, he had spiky hair.

But anyway, I mean, I didn't make the films. But yeah, how he looked in this one in the beginning, especially when he was naked, flexing his cheeks, he looked just how he looked at Terminator 2 when he came in walking into the bar all naked and everything. Yeah, it was basically Terminator in this. He was all stiff and all about business. Did he even smile in this at all? Maybe at the end, I don't remember, but...

I don't even think at the end when they do the whole watch exchange, how he basically gets over on Ritzig because Rizig gives him like a $1,000 watch, and he gives him his, which is like a $20 watch. and he does that thing in Russian and he has Rizik asked him what does that mean and he basically tells him we're not politicians,

we're allowed to be friends. I don't think he even cracks a smile. The movie's over and he goes back to he goes back to Russia and they show him saluting and I don't know, just Russia. Yeah, who's he saluting?

Or former Soviet Union. I don't even know what they're called now. Well, I know in the movie, like when someone would say Russians he would be like Soviet because that scene with the oh I can't think of the actor. The guy with the eyes he worked at the hotel.

That was uh what's his name and what was that movie with when they were stuck in that hotel out in the rain. Yeah he was wasn't he the one that was telling the story? Identity. He was just the night clerk. His name is

Yeah, yeah. Purit Taylor Vint I think that's how you say his name. Yeah, his eyes. He was the much younger. Yeah, that's him. Yeah, because he, he says Russian, and then Ivan corrects him. It says Soviets.

Yeah, I don't know the correct term. He was also in the Jacobs Ladder. I haven't seen that movie, though. I think the last time I watched that is when we did it on the horror returns. Yeah, he's also, I just brought it up in canine with James Belushi. He's the guy that the dog, the dog, like, bites his nuts in the bar. I'm thinking of For some reason I do

Oh, uh, Tom Hanks. Yeah, that's only one. I know I saw canine, but Oh, Turner Houch. I don't even remember. I seen that once when it first came out. Well, that's raw deal and that's red heat, everyone. Um, sorry we didn't go three hours, uh, like we did on the last show.

I didn't realize that we went that long until I, I was putting it all together. I was like, damn, we went hell along. I mean, it happens sometimes. I mean, we plan to go a certain time and just when you start talking about things. If you guys have not seen this, I'm not sure if it's streaming anywhere,

but for those you other means, guys, it's out there. And raw deal streaming on Amazon. So definitely check both of these films out. these are two Arnold classics um what is he got coming up I haven't

he's got like a few things uh Arnold he's got some I heard he's doing some spy TV show where he's actually gonna be the star something called superhero kindergarten TV series

that sounds horrible was this the one that was supposed to be leading to or part of a kindergarten cop? I have no idea. I still haven't even seen the one with what's his name was in the sequel. I see it.

I see it. Oh, it's animated. This is a superhero kindergarten. It's going to be a TV series. I don't know when it's playing. But a gym coach acquires incredible superpowers from a mysterious comment and becomes Captain Courage,

one of the Earth's greatest protectors. He works undercover as a kindergarten teacher to raise a new generation of superpowered kids. Well, Stan Lee is a part of it, so it looks cool. I don't even know if this aired yet. Well, they animated... It's Stan Lee's superhero kindergarten. Okay, cool.

but the animation guy looks there's Arnold well a young Arnold you're not all gray and everything yeah just just give me king Conan that's what I'm waiting on this is the legend of Conan there's really no

I like King Conan better are you happy are you excited for triplets and so it says with the that's really happening I mean I I'll watch it I'm not going to say I'm excited for it. I like twins.

I mean, it was, I didn't really care for the first time I saw. It was one of those ones I had to rewatch over and over. And I just did a rewatch not too long ago. I laughed at it. But, um, all right. Uh, has Eddie ever worked with Arnold before? Uh, I want to say no. I don't think any of them worked together before.

Well, I'm, I'm all for it. I'll watch it. It just says pre-production. Wow, that's really happening. He's the president in that. I don't even think I've seen Kung Fury. All right. It was on YouTube for many.

Michael Fastbender, Alexandria shipped the Hoff, David Hasselhoffs in it, and a bunch of other people. The story will focus on Kung Fury's universe with no real connection to the short movie other than the lead character. Okay. Something called Outwriter, the TV series. Well, it just says he's rumored.

So I don't know if he's really in it. I guess he's in some video game. Predator Hunting Grounds. He's a Dutch in that. I don't even know if that game is out yet, but. I think it's like one of them, I think the game's out, but I think that's like a downloadable character or something. It was released back in April.

Oh, shit, I didn't know that. I have to go get it. I like those type of shoot-em-up games. Fucking Triplis is really, this is blowing my mind. All right. It could be the old Julius Benedict, but okay. yeah I mean Arnold

you do what you got to do I would like to see a I still want to see well I guess he's too old now I just thought about Kelly Preston and have what's her name in the sequel that was like his wife

yeah wasn't that always weird to you that they married sisters I guess I don't know and had kids Kelly Preston's hot no I'm just mean like the kids like

I always wanted a second part to last action hero but he's much he's much older so I don't know or even a second part to the sixth day I really liked that one I just I have not seen that one in years

I liked it. That's what Michael Rappor was eraser I haven't seen that in a long time either I mean that one was good while we're going through his movies. Is Conan on the docket at all? All right. Just those two?

Yeah, it is. I mean, if you want to do the MoMA one, we can, but I didn't put it on there. Dive into it. I haven't seen it once. I mean, it was all right for what it was, but it's, there's just some movies you shouldn't read. make and Conan was one of them. No, they should have just had

Maimoa do something new. I mean, if you're going to make him a barbarian cool, but just not be Conan. No, she died. Well, she didn't really die. You don't know. That witch he banged. In the beginning, she just flew off. But I don't know.

I mean, I'm sure they could think of something. Oh, yeah. Red Sonia. He's only in that for like a second. remember that. Oh, he did twins right after red heat. I thought that was like much later in the 90s. Okay, it's an 80s film.

Oh, total recalls in the 90s. That one, that's still, I love it. We did it on the show. Mike and I and Theo, we were trying to figure it out. I mean, mainly did it happen or did it not happen? So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I know there's been a lot of videos where people try explain it, but there was never

really a solid answer that I've got from any of the the creators of it. What do we got coming up next? I don't even know. Every time I find out everyone is when you guys find out. We are going to do Desperado and once upon a time

in Mexico. Once upon a time in Mexico. I know I have Desperado. I know I want to say once upon a time in Mexico is streaming on. Give me a second. Sorry, listeners. Should have had this.

I think it's streaming on stars. Yes, it is streaming on stars, as well as Desperado. Well, I have the Desperado. I have that two-pack with El Marriachi. Desperado, I've seen that a billion times. I think I only seen once upon time in America. Once upon a time in Mexico. Like maybe once or twice.

I remember I saw in a theater. I've only seen it once and I was a little iffy on it. So I threw it on the schedules. I thought it was a good time. But rewatch and Desperado was a lot of fun. And I haven't seen that in a while. No Mariachi. I didn't know it was a sequel.

El Marachi, yeah. One of my friends told me. Yeah. Well, I mean, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. But it had that scene in it that kind of confuses you if you haven't seen. I have to watch that one first. I haven't seen that.

I know. I have it. I don't have to just dig it out. Once upon a time in Mexico. The only thing I remember that was Johnny Depp. You want to be a Mexican or a Mexican or vice versa. Whatever he said. And just a little heads up episode after that, the next week we are going to do Demolition Man and Time Cop.

A little sci-fi action. I know I just saw it. I'm doing rearranging in my studio. So I just kind of threw my movies. everywhere. Definitely. I haven't seen time cap. Time cop in a long time. We'll get into all those in the next couple weeks.

But what we got coming on East Society, we just dropped the regular episode as well as we kind of did a bonus episode for East Society's 31 Days of Horror, right friend of the show, a writer, writer, director, and author Mike J. Marin came on and we were talking about the 2020's shutter original host. Mike hadn't seen it, so I said, well, let's watch it and we'll do a quick one on it. So that's out there. We just dropped those two as well as regular McNez.

Mike comes on again, and we talk about his book project. And the Zisu has his Big Brother quarantine for you Big Brother fans. he's got that over on anchor you can also hear that feed on Apple Podcasts and wherever you hear podcasts just search MacNez or E-Society and it'll pop up but

I think that's it until we got a regular episode I was going to drop another McNaz but a friend that's going to come on had other engagements to deal with first so I'll put that one on hold until we can figure out of time but yeah more East Society's

coming and we're just gearing up for 31 days of horror. If you guys are not listened to any of that last year, Brian and I went on a tear. We did all kinds of movies. So definitely if you guys want to warm up to what we're going to talk about, go back to last October and listen

to all 31 episodes of those because we've got 31 more coming. Brian definitely will be back on there. I don't know how many times as much as I need him. Him and Mike. That's mainly going to be him and Mike. Oh, Mike's going to come on with us when we do tourist trap.

Because he'd never seen it before. So I said, well, come on with me and Brian. Okay. So he's like, all right, cool. Look forward to that, everybody. And yeah, I think that's it. All right. So until next time, everybody, be safe out there and party on.

All right. On the horror returns end, about time you hear this, so we got John Carpenter's Apocalypse trilogy that we did with chat C from binge media. And next one, week, we have the Hills Have Eyes, the 1977 version

along with the 2006 remake. We might have a guest, I'm not sure yet, so you just have to tune in. And until the action returns, everybody, be safe.