The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #16: Blade (1998) & Blade II (2002)

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

This week Brain and Nez go up against Marvel's half mortal, half immortal vampire hunter in 1998's BLADE.    Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776

Fuck are you out of your... Back to another episode of the action returns. This is episode 16. I'm your host, Brian. And with me, as always, is my co-host and as my co-host. What's up? Yo, man, what's going on up there? Oh, nothing's changed.

Unfortunately, nothing's changed, but it's getting colder. That's not a good thing. Not a good thing for me. Yeah, I had to put my sweatshirt on tonight at work. only for like one flight and then I was like man it's hot I took it off well it was cold I was sitting in this room and the AC was

like full blast I watching these movies so I was like man I went outside and oh it was hot so but it's we're at my house we're up on a hill it seems cooler up here so but I have the window open right now

probably shut it later on but yeah other than that everything else is still it is what it is still trying to be as safe as I can and dealing with some

fucking idiot it's another story everyone my grandson's deadbeat father but yeah

all you guys out there man take care of your kids work take care your kids that's all we ask don't be deadbeats and do nothing and expect everything anyway again that's a

other show. Before we get into these movies, what was that? I was going to ask you. Oh, you check out that new Mel Gibson trailer for Fat Man? No, I heard about it. The thing the League of Geeks were talking about it. They were saying they weren't sure on what it is. What is it about?

I don't even know what it is. Well, basically, Mel Gibson is Santa Claus. clause and I guess a kid that he gave Cole to it's like a like a shitty little rich kid like he gave Cole to puts a hit out on him and like basically it's an action movie oh okay and I don't know it kind of looks fun I I'm definitely going to check it out I know you know everybody's feelings towards Mel Gibson but I'm not I'm not watching it to support Mel Gibson and so, but it looks fun.

He's got all these hitmen coming after him, and he's, like, armed, heavily armed, and looks like it's... Santa Claus from the North Pole, not a mall Santa? Nope, he's Santa Claus from the North Pole. All right, well, we'll have to do it then. When does it come out? I think, right, neither.

I think maybe late November, Early December, let me double check. I should have had that pulled out. Fat man, release date is November 13th. It's just called Fat Man? Fat Man. And the poster is an angry-looking Mel Gibson with a beard. All right, he don't look like Santa Claus, but all right.

Yeah, there's no, uh, Kurt Russell is Santa Claus. Oh my God. R. Bloody violence. Okay, this doesn't look like he's up in the North Pole, but he's somewhere cold. Is that Mrs. Claus, the Black Lady?

Yeah. Okay. I wonder a thing. There's no love for Santa. They're shooting out of it. Everything. Okay. All right.

I'm with this. This looks... Oh, what's his name? From the Shield. Walton. Yeah, yeah. And it's produced by David Gordon Green and Danny McBride. Okay.

So is this a action comedy or... It's labeled as a dark comedy action film. okay well all right man we're gonna have to cover this because this looks awesome yeah because I had a I had a whole thing in November where we were gonna do the Daniel Craig Bond movies but since I got delayed we can rearrange schedule all right well this looks good and he's Santa Claus all right right the fat man's got his eye on you kid all right I'm all on board Yeah, the tagline is tis the season to get even.

Well, it looks cool. I want to see it. Well, definitely have to cover it, man. Lots of explosions and shoot them up. So we'll see. You keep your eyes open. They're everywhere. A secret nation of evil.

Tonight, the age of man comes to an end. A war to save our world. Blade myself killed as many of them as we can find. A hero who knows no fear. He mixed the weapons. I use them. Wesley Snipes. Stephen Dorff.

Blade. Rated R. Starts Friday, August 21st. All right, let's get into these movies. We are doing Blade, Blade 2, and we might talk about Blade Trinity and the Blade series. let's see blade came out in 1998 let's see IMDV's synopsis a half vampire half mortal man

becomes a protector of the mortal race while slaying evil vampires all right let's do Google a half mortal half immortal that makes no sense is out to avenge his mother's death and rid the world of vampires the modern day technology advanced vampires is going after that he is going after are in search of a special blood type needed to summon an evil god who plays a key role in their plan to

execute the human race this stars uh wait directed by Stephen Norrington written by David S. Goyer based off Marvel comic superhero this stars Wesley Snipes, Steven Dorf, Chris Christopherson, In Boucher, right, probably fucked that one up,

Donnell Logue, and Udo Kier, Yeah Sinai Lathan, Tracy Lords, and a bunch of other people that is not really that important. So, what did you think of 98's Blade? Oh, I love this one. This one's my favorite out of the three. I remember reading the comics when I was a kid, but never really super duper getting into it.

I mean, I thought it was cool. Vampire or Daywalker that can walk around during the daytime. And I mean, like they said in the film, he had all the strengths of the vampire except for their thirst, which he kept kind of at ease with the serum. from Whistler. But I thought it was good. Chris Christopherson, I mean, he's an amazing musician as well as actor.

I love how his character. I didn't even know he was going to be in it. I mean, you know what? To tell the truth, I didn't even know this movie was being made. It just came out of nowhere. And I was like, Blade, is that the Blade? So I watched the trailer and I was like,

whoa, okay. So I went and seen it. I saw it towards the end of its run. It finally came through the little one-horse town that I live in. And it was a private screening because I was sitting in there by myself. But I walked out of the theater like, man, this movie was hell of good. And I was all about it. I couldn't wait for the second one.

But it was an amazing film. For what it was. I know some people didn't really care for it. But I think for a younger generation that didn't even know who Blade was at all, I mean, because everyone just thought it was something just made up, but he didn't realize that the books came out a long time ago. And they never really did much with the, that I can remember, with the Blade character. So I just thought it was something fresh. I wouldn't call him a superhero, but he's definitely a good, he's a hero.

But I loved it. I thought everything in it was awesome, cinematography, the music. all the characters that were in it. Stephen Dorff, man. I can take him or leave him, but I thought he was awesome in this as Deacon Frost. He's not a very tall gentleman. I've seen him once where I was down to L.A. somewhere, and I saw him. I was, man, that got short.

But he was a really good bad guy. I thought Tracy Lords got a little shafted in this one. Because when I saw her name pop across the screen, I was like, whoa, Tracy Lords. and she was only in it for like two minutes. But everybody else in it was awesome. Danelle Luge, Lounge, how do you say his last name? Logue.

Logue? He was a guy that was on MTV that they popped up every now and then and like the commercials. I can't remember the character he played. So that's how I was introduced to that guy. But then his role in this is Quinn. I thought he was awesome.

He was basically the the comic relief but I thought he was good everything every time he was on the screen I thought he was awesome but the chick as well was it Vanessa

was that who was a girl that he was helping Karen? Yeah Karen Jensen Okay I can't even pronounce it It's supposed to be pronounced in Boucher

in Boucher right Okay. I liked her. I just thought she was hot in this. That's why she was in dead. I just clicked on it. She was in dead presidents, too. Okay.

I knew I'd seen her in other things, not just this, but. She was the younger sister. Yeah. She was the one of the ones that I helped to rob the armor truck at the end. But I thought this was a good movie. I thought it was amazing. I loved it. I saw it like once here in town and I saw one more time in Reno before they yanked it.

So I was all about this film. I thought it was awesome. I mean, when I heard that the TV show was coming, I think it was on Spike at the time. And Wesley Snipes wasn't a part of it. I was kind of like, really? But I gave it a shot. And I liked to the TV show for what it was. But this is definitely awesome.

I can't wait to see what the, what's his name? What's the new guy that's Blade? Mahershala Ali. Yeah, I can't wait to see what he's going to bring to the character. I'm kind of hoping that Wesley will make a cameo in it as something. Yeah, something. It would be cool just to see him pop up in it. But I don't know, I don't know which way they're going with.

I don't know how, is it going to be the origin story of Blade or is it just going to jump right into it where he's already, like how Wesley is. And he's already deep into vampire hunting and everything. So, but yeah, I thought this movie was fucking awesome. Yeah, I agree with you. I knew of Blade from the comics. And when I came into this, I didn't know really what to expect or how they were going in which direction they were going with the movie.

but after that first scene in the in the club the little rave i was i was in all the way and i thought blade the way wesley played him was like the coolest fucking guy like just calm collected uh this birth one of the movie quotes that i've said in my life and that is uh some motherfuckers was always trying to ice skate uphill love that line love that line uh stephen dorf thought he was a great villain. I liked the little side, the little henchman, Donnell Logue. What was the other chick's name? I thought she could have did more.

Arleigh Jover played Mercury. I didn't even know she had a name in the movie, but I thought she was all right. Yeah, overall, I thought this was a, was, a good superhero comic book action movie before we

really even got them because a lot of people credit X-Men but this came out before everybody

everybody. Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's why I mean, I wouldn't call him a

superhero, but I think he was just definitely a hero. Especially when I think the first issue

was in the 70s I would say. Well, I'm thinking early 70s. Let me see. When exactly did that one come out? Well, his first appearance was in the Tomb of Dracula.

That was in 1973. Not sure exactly when his issues started to come out. I guess I should have pulled all that up as well. I did like the changes of what they had the updated version of how Blade looked. Because if you guys are familiar with Blade in the comic books from back in the day, he was the straight. My friend, he loved it. His dad did. Because he, oh, man, he was like soul brother number one in the books.

Because his dad was deep into black superheroes and black characters and comic books. So he was all about Blade. Because if you look at Blade in the book. books. He had the afro and everything, definitely from the 70s. And he did a little bit of the job of talk in the movies, but not so much. He went a little bit more, I thought, in the books, which I loved. I guess they didn't have to update it to the late 90s. I'm looking at it now. He got the trench coat with the collar popped.

I mean, because I like how he looks. He looks cool. but the all black and the fade with the designs on the board oh no it was a tattoo on the back of his head i mean i definitely uh thought that was cool i liked it but if you guys aren't familiar with blade in the comic books do uh check all those out but um the movie was awesome i mean i'm not the one for uh rave music or anything but that uh beginning scene uh I guess, well, there was a big banner behind the DJ and it said bloodbath, but I think the song was called Blood Rave. I don't remember, but that song, man, it gets me hyped.

I don't know why. I just don't like that type of music, but that song, I think it fit the scene of the beginning of this film. And I got a question. Once all the blood started pouring out of the faucets, I mean, were they just? It looked like they were other than it was just wasting. I mean, were they just dancing in it or were they actually drinking it as well?

I think they were just dancing in it because I think I don't know if they can drink the blood because I think it has to be alive or something like that. Yeah. I mean, I've seen other vampire movies where they can't drink from the dead. So I don't know. I don't know the rules in the Marvel universe. vampires. This is a new blade that's coming.

Is it going to be a part of the MCU? Yep. They're rebooting it, and they are going to fit it in there. Was Morbius ever around Blade? Yeah. He's actually, I didn't break out the Blu-ray for this one. All three Blade movies are on Hulu right now, but it's, they say, in a deleted stick.

the director, I guess, played Michael Morbius. Okay. So they wanted to introduce him, but I don't know what, whatever happened with that. Okay. Speaking of Morbius,

are they done filming it? Because I haven't heard nothing about it. But I hear it's getting ready. Yeah, it got delayed. Okay, so they're done with it. Yeah. All right. Well, just thought it on Disney Plus.

Same thing with the New Mutants. Did you see that? No, everybody told me it was bad, so I was just going to wait for other means. Yeah, it was. It was what it was, but it wasn't the worst thing I've seen this year. But a little side note, what is the worst thing you've seen this year? It's not a horror movie, but it's this movie called Valley Girl. Oh.

I've seen your post it was fucking horrendous it was just a slap in the face to the 80s version I was like what the fuck were you guys thinking was a reboot

no it was a remake of uh of the the it was the only thing other than the time I know we're supposed to talk about the action but the only thing

was the title and the character names. That's it. I mean, I kind of did like the story on what they were doing, but I didn't know it was going to be a musical. It was one of those ones where they were just talking, then all of a sudden they'd jump into this big, huge

song and dance number, and I was like, ugh. And it just fucking it was like an hour and a half wasted of my life. I can never get back again. And I was mad, like the whole movie, because I love the original.

Valley Girl. That's like one of my favorite 80s movies and they just fucking just pulled my heart out and stuck it in the bag and threw it away. I was like, oh my God. It was fucking horrible. It was no new mutants, but New Mutants, it's

I wanted more and I didn't get it. I mean, I knew I wasn't going to get it because I knew it could not go anywhere. It was just something they made and they should, they just put out. Because it's not going to tie into nothing new. So I just thought, I would like to see the other version if this was the one that Disney wanted, because I guess they made another version that they wanted to put out, but they didn't like it.

Disney liked this version better. I'm like, I don't know who sat there and watched both of them, but, yeah. Anyway, New Mutants. and stay away from Valley Girl. The new one is fucking terrible. Is it streaming? I'm sorry. I just scratching my throat, trying to get rid of it.

I set sail on that one. Okay. It's out there. That movie, did you like that? Yes. Oh, my God. I'll never watch that again unless it pops up on something and then maybe. But no, fuck.

I'm ready to punt somebody. This, I mean, this whole film was awesome. I didn't think it was as action-packed as it should have been because it was a lot of story build up on what was going on. But it was still good. I mean, it started off with a bang. I mean, I loved it ended with a bag. I loved that whole thing at the end.

The CGI wasn't the greatest, but, I mean, it was still it fit in it. I'm glad they didn't really go super duper. CGI with the fighting. Not like in the second one, but this one, I mean, I just thought it was awesome. I did love the special effects of the vampires when he was killing them, especially with the beginning when he was shooting them all, and then when he was throwing his little gadgets he had. I loved how they were just like burned up instantly and then just fell to piles of ash.

I thought that was pretty sweet. Yeah, on this rewatch, I noticed something. He, I'm used to, you know, certain things. There are only certain things that will kill Ben. vampires. There was a couple of, it looks like he killed him by kicking him or breaking their necks. Yeah.

I don't know. I figured, I think the kicks, he's got silver stuff on his boots, but I don't know, I'm just, I'm just reaching. I would, I would say that, but, um, yeah,

I'm not sure. He had to have something, some kind of gadget that Whistler built. I did like the fact of how what they were putting was it

silver nitrate or something in the bullets. Yeah. I like that aspect. I liked the he had a lot of silver and I'm sure that shit was all heavy. Those little silver spikes he had around

carrying in his jacket and his little bulletproof vest thing that he was wearing. I thought that looked pretty sweet. Well, he's as strong as vampires. Okay. Did these vampires not fly or anything? I mean, in this DC or this DC, and that's a slap to the face. In this Marvel universe, the vampires don't fly.

I mean, because Dracula flew around in the old books. Uh, I don't think so. I mean, I've known in none of these movies, it looks like they can jump and kind of collide through the air. But fly, you know, changing the other animals. I think, did, uh, did Dracula do it in, um, Trinity? Did he change into different things? Oh, fuck, I don't remember. Um, I think he, I think he only changed in different people.

I didn't rewatch that. one. I, you're smart. That's a smart move. I want, I want to, but I didn't, I know I had plenty of time to, but I watched this all in the last minutes, but all I remember was triple X, not triple X, triple H in that as well as, Ryan Reynolds and hot-ass Jessica Beal. That's not as much as I remember.

They thought they was going to make a, a whole new thing off of those characters. Uh, I guess they could have. I mean, was there any other talk of them making a fourth one with, uh,

Wesley? No, because I think he had a, when I went to jail. Yeah, well, I think he had a falling out with the studio, because I think they claim,

he was, he claimed that they blackballed him because I guess he was trying to negotiate more money. or some kind of producer rights or something. I don't know if those are the exact things, but I know he has some kind of problem with the studio. So I think after the third one came out, they were done.

And then, yeah, he went to jail for taxes, even though somebody else only paid $750. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, the budget in this one was $45 million And, well, they made the money back They made $131.32 million from it. Yeah.

See, I didn't hear much about this when it came out Other than I saw the trailers, But I don't remember everyone rant and raving about this film That I can remember. I mean, it was a long time ago, but yeah I remember watching it and I think it was just me and my friends that were like super hyped about it when we were coming out so all right so um the beginning 1967 a pregnant woman is attacked by a vampire causing her to go into premature labor uh see we didn't know that in the beginning of this from we we find out later on uh on what happened that this is an old film you guys should know if you'd seen it by then the doctor is able to save her baby, but the woman dies of an unknown infection.

So once, this is 30 years later in 1997, a child became the vampire hunter blade and raids. Okay, Los Angeles is where they were. I figured that's where they were, but they never really said where they were. Because some people were saying it was Detroit, but I was like, it didn't look like Detroit. but um so okay we we know blade he's the vampire hunter he's running around just trying to stop everyone and you know he's going after uh stephen dor's character um deacon frost uh the thing that i still wanted to know was why he was does uh frost wasn't a uh a full-blood vampire he was turned um and

I assume everybody in his gang were also turned vampires. The council of the born vampires that were born a vampire. Yeah, Udo Cure. Listen to our Frankenstein 3D episode, if you want more, the great Udo Cure. Oh, man, that was fucking awesome. I listened back to it. Flesh for Frankenstein, everyone.

Check it out. Anyway. Shout out to Otto. Yeah. I mean, now when I see, you don't care, it's all I think of

is that movie. But he was a much, much older gentleman in this film. If these guys, this council of vampires, this is all after the amazing

the rave scene when Blade goes in there. and just kills everyone. I mean, Blade's badass. We all know that. But when he rolled into that club, and it seemed like a majority of the people,

everybody was running for their lives, but there was some that stuck around to fight. They had a full security force, and they all know who Blade is. It's not like nobody knew because it's him, it's him, it's him, like everybody in the club knew. it was him.

Why didn't they know he's out there, they know he kills vampires. How come like nobody was ever ready for him? You know, that is a good question because Blade's not very, he can be stealthy,

but throughout this movie when he rolls up on places, it's just kind of like through the front door, like here I am. So I don't know. Horrible security throughout the movie.

And these are all big gentlemen out there. I mean, even that little young blonde girl, but there was all bloody. She ran and got a gun, and she was holding hers. We thought Tracy Lord was going to hold hers, but she did for a second. And then she just got blasted. Did he shoot her in a face with a shotgun?

Yeah, he, like, used the gun butt, and it looked like he hit her in her hoo-ha. And then had the shotgun pointed up under her chin, and then blasted her. Because yeah, she just like turned out. And I remember that fooled me because I thought she was like a main character in the movie. Yeah, I was like, man, that was like a waste.

They could at least let her... She could have been the other blonde girl or been there like that little blonde girl's because she kind of made it all the way to the end. Yeah. Because he's just like mowing everyone down. The guns. Does he pull out of a story?

sword? Does he I know he pulls out that kind of like boomerang kind of weapon. I mean that was cool. I mean, because lucky they were in that little circular room because he just threw it and took out those dudes and then

came back to him. There must have been what, 100 people in there maybe? And I love, I mean, right before that actual scene when Trace of Lourge is going in, bringing in this one young gentleman

into the club. He was in the Shield as well as Suns of Anarchy. I can't remember his name. He was the guy that stepped on the landmine. Yeah, that guy. He was in a Bates Motel

too. Was he? Yeah, he was like Norman's uncle and spoilers, everybody. He was his brother's, Norman's brother's uncle, also his father, possibly.

Or I think he was. All right, I'm not to watch that. I mean, my daughter, she was all about it. She thought I said it was good. I'm okay. I've only seen the movies, but anyway, so I loved how when she was bringing them in there, and it just looked like a big meat

packing the freezer place. Mainly just, I'm sure it was just a front of Amper. front for to just try to stay in the shadows and everything because when someone was pushing by a big old rack and you can see that there was a dead bodies hanging in there yeah that's that's your that's your cue to leave because he looked at him and he was like what the hell and he like yeah he turned around

stared at it for a while it wasn't like he just glanced at it but little head was thinking for the big head because he was all about Tracy Lowe's because he was already making out with him. That's the thing right there. Were those just drained bodies that they use because they can't? Well, they're dead already. They can't do nothing with them. So I assume they were just taking them to dispose them or something.

I don't know. Maybe that was all the blood they drained and dumped on everyone. But yeah, once he gets in there, I mean, the song is just just bump and just do, do. again I don't like that music but I like this song in this movie. It totally fit because everyone's in there having a good time and then

the blood starts pouring in on everybody. All right, I mean to to each his own if you go to these type of thing because one of my friends said they went to some Halloween thing they did. They played this song and

I guess it was blood or whatever started spraying all over everyone. And he goes, man, no one stayed there and danced everybody like, went, ah, and ran away. But anyway, that would have been fun. So after all that, and then why was she, I didn't get

why she brought him there for that? Because it seemed like he was the only human there. I mean, other than she was eventually going to kill him, but what was her purpose for bringing him there? it it I don't know I mean I don't know because he's not enough

for everybody to feed on and it just kind of seemed like they were enjoying like kicking the shit out of him yeah because I loved how he kept trying to dance and talk to him hey what's up and everyone was either slapping him or pushing him away

I was like man fuck this place out of left but yeah but once all the blood starts pouring out and then this is when he realizes that everyone's vampires because everyone's showing their teeth and laughing around and he's a screaming yeah because once he falls in the ground everyone just starts kicking him i was like weak and luckily he crawled straight to blade and then this is one we're introduced to Wesley's character and he's standing there uh luckily the the

the song ended right there because that's when everyone sees him and then that's when he commence to to kick an ass I loved all his weapons especially his

pistols and everything all the stuff that a whistler made I thought that that was all

it kind of looked like one of the lawgivers from Judge Dred I liked that

yeah his little machine guns he had so because he just was mowing everyone down

and just vampires just turning to turn into dust or just ash and

everywhere and then the security guards came. I think some of those security guards were human because there was one guy that he did shoot that didn't disintegrate. He just kind of

fell over and then he was still laying there. But then we do learn that there is slaves to the vampires because they have those little those little tattoos on the backs of their necks or

wherever. Yeah. Familiar. Everyone had their own different little insignia. So that's because Deacon Frost had his and all the other vampires had theirs. So once he

like kind of just laid everyone down, I mean, it was awesome. He was flipping and flopping and just shooting and throwing things around. And then after he just like fucking laid everyone down that he could, that was just the police

and the fire department that came in, right? Yeah. Because, oh, what's his name came running up. What's that guy's name? Quinn. He's just some, he was awesome. He was just sitting in the back

and making out two girls and another one was going down on him. He jumped up and then he was, we're getting ready to try to kill Blade. But obviously there was some kind of riff between Blade and Quinn because

like they knew each other. So I mean, Mm-hmm. We don't get that story until much later, but... Yeah, because this scene where he's the last guy he fights, right? Yeah, because he actually just pretty much killed everyone. Yeah, he has him stuck up on the wall, and then he says, I'm going to try fire this time. And I'm like, how many times have you tried to kill him? Yeah, and that's another thing.

I mean, yeah, he says that. yeah how many times did he has he always dealt with him because he's he's I mean he's been looking for frost for who knows how long but he never can find him he always just deals with Quinn and he said he said he's like sliced him and diced him up many times but he always just kept on coming back so I mean I liked his character I thought he was pretty sweet because when he gets burned up he just

oh he's he stabs one in in the shoulder and then he shoots the other one into the other shoulder and then he drops a little bomb and he just turns the flames and that's when all the cops and the firemen all come busting in so I assume

somebody called somebody because I'm sure a lot of people went running out and screaming into the streets then we're introduced to what's that chick's name Dr. Karen Jensen yeah she's

She's in the hospital with her ex-boyfriend, and they're dealing with what's in the body of Quinn, which is just charbroiled, and they're saying that they took a blood sample from him, and his blood was all different, because they weren't too sure what was going on. So he kind of tells her, well, come down, I got the body down here.

Let's start doing a little autopsy on him really quick. So they kind of start messing with him, and then, Did they notice anything about him? I know, but she was digging in his mouth, and she was saying that his gums were deformed because of his teeth. Yeah, I think that was it. And of course, I think you noticed his teeth, too. Yeah, because I'm sure they were just full things.

Because he came, he, like jumped, jump back into life and just bit that doctor or that other, I assume he was a doctor or a surgeon, but he just, Quinn just lit into him and just started to chew him. I love the, I love the effects of that because the blood was just pouring down the side of his face or the side of his neck. And then, oh, Quinn jumps up and he runs after the doctor,

Karen, and he grabs her and he bites her in the neck. And she's looking around and she sees Blade come walking down the hall. And, oh, he, He does he cut the Quinn's arm off right here? Yeah, he cuts his arm off. He's about to kill him and then security runs up and shoots him and then he turns around and he was like a motherfucker, are you crazy?

You got your goddamn mind. That was my favorite line in the whole movie because they just opened up on him. He just ran, motherfucker, you aren't your damn mind. Oh, he just beat that. they think he just beat those guys up because he took off because he picked up the doctor and ran down the hall and then

luckily there was something soft that she landed on because he threw her out the window although I don't know how far but over to the next building and she landed on something soft so but I was like all right she's lucky because she could have died

landed on her head or something but he jumps out I thought that was pretty cool and then he takes it to his layer somewhere in the industrial area because this is when we meet Chris Christopherson's character Abraham Whistler and he's the one that found Blade because later he tells Dr. Karen the story of how he found him feeding off of rats and stuff like that in the alleys and then he just kind of pretty much raised. them so did he did whistler know that there was vampires and all that running around yeah because uh he tells the story of how his family yeah yeah which is my problem with the third film because all of a sudden um Jessica Beale is his daughter from another family that was never ever mentioned so he was just

laying it down everywhere leaving kids it's Chris Christopherson and 60s and 70s were a different time, boys and girls. There was no AIDS and all that. No condoms. None. I like that. See, you didn't have baked when they were talking Willie Nelson. He goes, man, I remember back in the day when a dime bag cost a dime.

And he goes, well, how much were rubbers? I don't know. We never used them. Different times, everybody. Put it on, bag it up before you dive in. Anyway, so I mean, I love the little layer, and what kind of car was that? Because that car was tough. All right.

Everybody, we've said it many times. We are not car people. So I'm doing a quick check. Blade car was a... I want to say it was a charger. I'm not sure. his car you are correct it was a dodge charger in 1968 dodge charger and it was like flat black how i like it too it was tough yeah oh man uh he didn't use it much in this one but no when he did oh man uh when he did

oh man uh so yeah because he takes he takes her there and then um he because uh uh whistler's kind of like why'd you bring her here and he goes i just kind of just just deal with it so he yeah he pumped you go soft on me yeah he pumped her up with um uh he totally goes look this is gonna hurt and it's gonna hurt a lot so he pumped in um uh i can't remember what he called it but he said it was like the the essence of garlic whatever whatever that does and uh it was basically uh like a detox uh type of thing thing because he was talking about like they were mentioned

like crackheads or whatever heroin addicts just she saw they didn't show it but I assume she was fucking just jonesing like all night from it so but she woke up the next day and she was all good

um though this is then after this is when we go to the uh the meeting with the pure bloods and they're talking to um Deacon Frost and he was just telling him how it should be because they were all about

the old ways of vampires and he was like why are we why are we trying to deal with why are we trying to make these back alley treaties why are we trying to be cool with them and he was like they're our fucking food I liked what he was doing and I liked his idea but what these there was 12 of them

there were the Pure Blood Vampire Council but they said this was the council of their area so I assume just of maybe not California maybe just the Southern California region yeah because Deacon was the he was

the leader of the younger vampire faction so it sounded like they had like little factions everywhere so I was thinking why if these guys guys that have been around for centuries, why

were they all so soft and didn't have these big armies to fight for them? I don't know. You know, I always kind of figured, like, I understand what Deacon was trying to do, but if

you killed everybody, what would the vampire's feet on? Yeah, that was another thing. I was kind of like, I like the ideas of what the old vampire just kind of stay in the shadows and we'll do what we got to do and we feed when we need to.

Deakin was kind of like, no, let's just fucking just lay them all, lay them all the waste. And then what? It would go like that. What was that one movie when they were running out of humans? Daybreaker.

Yeah. I like that idea. I thought that was awesome what they were doing, how they just basically, took over the world and they were running out of food or running out of blood and everything. So I thought that was a cool idea.

But it would have probably been like the same way with this one. I mean, what were they going to do? And we'll get into more when we talk about the next movie. But, um, so Deakin's whole idea was to summon up the blood god. Yeah. And what I can't

really exactly remember what the blood guy was supposed to do. Was it? Is this going to be the almighty vampire or what? Let's see. I know I just watched this, but I don't know. 12 spirits and will awaken the blood, La Magra. The blood of the Daywalker.

I think, yeah, I was just kind of, he was going to be the all-powerful. And since he had, we're kind of jumping ahead a little bit, since he gets the blood of Blade, who's a daywalker, I guess he was going to have no weaknesses. Okay. So I assume once he got Blade's blood, would he have been able to walk out in the sunlight?

I think so. Okay. Because I liked what they did in this. I mean, because the whole time, Blade, other than he's just looking for Deacon Frost, he doesn't really know what's happening. and what Deacon's plan is. Because when he goes looking for him, he goes to...

Was that a museum that he went into? Or was that just like a vault that was holding all the old... Basically, the sacred scrolls or the sacred text of the vampire history? Oh, the vampire Bible? Yeah. Yeah, I think that was kind of like a... Not a museum, but just where they... stored their ancient scripts which again seemed very easy to get into yeah he just like well I guess

he laid a few guys down before he went in but uh again they know blade is out there but he just easily kills everyone that gets in his way and gets right into these uh top secret places well that one guy had no clue on who he was when he went into the little uh the little club where they found the the librarian or whatever pearl because that guy at the door was the oh you need an invitation you know like you have no idea who's in front of you was that that uh like that little Asian club did he went in yeah with the little little Asian chicks rapping in little schoolgirl outfits and a bunch of old dudes watching them. Oh, yeah, that was a little creepy.

I guess that's the way vampires roll. But, yeah, you can even understand that. I assume they were speaking. I don't know if it was Chinese or whatever, but that kind of bugged me. It was just the way they sounded. Anyway. Yeah. I think you're right on the mark there because it just kind of felt like they were supposed

be little kids up there performing, but they're women. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. I don't know. I mean, it was all pedophily in that place. And those guys were all vampires, right? Or was it just a bunch

of creepy guys? I'm going to say yes. It was a vampire club that he went in. Yeah. So I just assumed that was the Asian population. of the vampires. Because when he went in there,

that's when he found that, what was the big blobby thing? Pearl. Yeah. And he, she was the one. Was it a she? Yeah, well, she was the one that told him about the blood god

and what Deakin was doing. Because she wasn't going to tell him at first, but then she, or he pulled out that, I know the doctor girl she pulled out that big the ultraviolet light yeah

and just started UV light started shining it on her she was a starting to burn and then she told him told him what was up and what Deakin was kind of doing because remember they had all that

that little program and then he was like well what's this blade pointed at the screen what's that and she told him that it was the the text and everything and the idea of how to get the, um, uh, summon the blood gut.

Yeah. I like how everything was right there for them to read on the screens. Like, oh, well, she was trying to help him to, uh, or help,

uh, deacon. Because he did. He told her, he told her, all right, this is what I got. And,

uh, help me decipher it. So, because that, that I assume that's why she was sitting there. watching her, I don't know if she was on a computer or what, but I guess trying to figure it all out. Because she was on Skype or whatever with it because she was like,

he's here, he's here! And Diggi was all right, come on, just die like a fucking man or whatever he said. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think there was a guy. I don't know. I thought it was a girl. I could, I don't know, it was a big blob. You really... Yeah, because it says right here,

when they come upon Pearl, a morbidly obese vampire, and they torture him with the UV light. Okay. Um, okay, see, this is what I didn't get about that character.

Was it just some... Was he fat before, or... Before he became a vampire, or was he a pure blood, or, I don't know. I didn't understand that big giant character.

What? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe I assumed maybe Pearl's an old vampire because I don't think you just get put in charge of the archives if you're, you know, not not been around as long as some other vampires. So might have been an old vampire. I don't know. Maybe he became obese because he's not allowed to leave, it seems like. He has to stay there and just work on the archives, which I don't know why that would be a 24-7 job.

And how much blood do you have to drink to become like that? Maybe that was his shipment. We didn't even talk about the cop that just keeps getting his ass kicked. the familiar he he had a little a little run he was doing in the trunk maybe that was off of Pearl that's right because he after they

pretty much cured the doctor they let her go back home and she was being followed by a police officer or she thought she was being followed by other people because there was some some shady looking characters that got an elevator with her

and then when she got to her apartment is when that police officer showed up and they said hey they said you were reported missing from the hospital so I'll just here to check and that's when she did did she figure it out or did he just no he he said he kind of gave it away when that's right I forgot what he exactly said but he came at her and then she thought he was a vampire so she pulled out the little

basically like mace, but it was garlic. And then he revealed that he's, he's not a vampire. And then Blade came in and started whipping his ass everywhere and told her, showed her the little mark on the back of his neck saying he's one of Deacon Frost's familiar. And just this guy, as much as he gets his ass kicked and just the way he, he was giving up information that he was never going to be one of them. No, because they did say that they had.

a lot of the police force in their pocket so um and I guess uh he was promised to be turned into a vampire if he did what he was told but yeah he was no good because he just gave it up quick as soon as blade showed up because she got mad at him she goes you set me up he used me as a decoy and it was like well fuck there's the only way he could uh try to get ahead what was going on um what was a little girl in there for when when he went into the little archive room with their Bible

and that little a little, was it a little black girl? Yeah, there was a little black girl in there. She started to commence to gop his ass. What was just to throw some little kid in there? Yeah, I guess because I watched, I rewatch this with my wife and I just, she was like,

what does the kid doing there? I was like, I don't know. I guess they're trying to show you they got different ages and vampires. I know. She's probably, who knows, she could be, like, still in a kid body, but, you know, was turned, like, a long time ago. But I assume she was a kid because when you first see her, she's sitting on the floor

playing video games. And, I mean, she has some nice kicks until Blade, like, backhanded her with one hit. I thought he was going to kill her, but slapped her down and he ran off. But, yeah, you must have hit her super hard because you never see her. again. Well, she was shining for a little bit. We're jumping all over the place, everyone. Okay.

After he left Pearls and he figured out what Deacon was doing. Oh, no, before all that, when Deakin got into it with, who's Udo Keir's character's name? Dragonetti or something like that? That sounds right. I'm not about, he was a vampire elder. Well, they're even going to try to say his name. G.

G. G. Gtono. Gtano, dragon, I just, dragon Eddie. I'm just called Dragon Eddie, which is a cool, as name for a vampire. Yeah. He, um, where did he, how did he catch him? I can't, did they show it?

How did deacon catch him? Yeah. They just took him, I guess, because you just kind of cut to the scene where they're on the beach. And everybody's got a little biker suits on with helmets, with sunblock on. And they're asking Dragonetti, has he ever seen the sunrise before? And they're like, oh, that's right.

You're a pure blood. You've never seen ones. And then they take the pliers and they rip his teeth out. And, yeah, I'm not the best EG. but I remember seeing this and I was just like, whoa, when that sun hits him and he just, at first he's just burning up and the skin's just melting, falling off, and then he just explodes. Yeah, I liked how he went out. Maybe that's just how the pure blood go.

I assuming everyone else that he was killing, they just turned to ash was just vampires that were turned. Because, I mean, I love that scene after, I mean, when they, after he blew up before when they yanked his teeth, his fangs out, when he goes back to that council and basically told them that, yeah, now I'm running the show because he throws his, uh, uh, dragon Eddie's teeth onto the table. And then they're kind of like, uh, all right, whatever. I mean, they just kind of eased back and just let him take control. I mean, that, to me, that just showed how weak all of them were. Yeah. Like, there was no, there was no. struggle for power or anything. He just came in like, oh, here's his teeth.

You know what that means? And then he sits in his chair. Yeah, it was like there was no security force for them. It was like he just came in, did what he had to do, said, all right, I'm taking over now. And everyone's bowed down. All right. You're right. We're wrong.

Because he needed all of them to appease the blood god, to, put them all in that little sacred circle thing that he did finally, because while all this was going on, he had his computer at his place that was trying to decipher the message. And I don't know how long it was doing that, but it finally stopped and it was able to decipher all the sacred texts and everything and show him how to do it. and then I think after that, that's when he gave it to Pearl. And then I guess Pearl had to go in and do some more research for him. Yeah.

So, okay, after Blade finds out everything, Deacon takes over the council. He got into it again with Quinn. Yeah, this is after they had to run in where the ancient scripts were. they have the scene where of course we talked about he knocks out the little girl and then they have like every Asian stunt guy that we probably seen in other movies pop-up and they restrain blade and Quinn takes one of his little silver little steak stabs him and then reveals the hands grown back and oh we also get the little scene because we didn't talk about his sword has that little security thing on it.

Oh, that's right. You're holding it too long. The little spikes come out. And one of the vampires is holding it. And basically it just explodes his hand, which I always love that scene. But yeah, they're restraining him. They're about to kill him. And then, uh, Blade's kind of laughing because he has a little earpiece in.

And essentially, uh, Whistler's been listening this whole time. And he just comes in guns, blaze and blows up, blows a, blows a, hole in the wall. I don't even know where he came from, and this is when they escape through the subway tunnels. Well, that's right, because they go running, and I love that scene when he's running,

because he just, Blade, he, it's him and the doctor, right? Yeah. Because he just... Whistler falls, and she, Jensen's like, what about Whistler? And then Blaze's like, oh, he can handle himself. Because I like how he just grabs the blade grabs the

I assume the last car on the train and then they go whistling away did it pull the arm out of a socket yeah dislocated which it makes sense because that train was going super fast but he's like strong vampire I guess you can

dislocate your arms yeah well whisper whisper does mention that like because I guess when they go back and she he's talking to Jensen because this is when she finds out that he's kind of like them and then he's like no I'm something else because he has to keep taking a serum to repress the hunger. Oh, we want to talk about that.

Yeah, and she's talking to Whistler that she thinks she can come up with a better one, but it's going to take some time. And then he's like basically telling her the story and, I don't know what was I got to say? my mind just went blank. I mean, I liked earlier in the film, when Blade goes to this little potion shop, there's another young black guy in there.

And he, of course, he knows who Blaine Whistler is because he's helping him with the fight. I was hoping that they would have brought him in because he seemed like he knew a lot. Yeah. See, that would have been cool if that was the series because it seemed like there was a basically they had their own little organization because you kind of you kind of get that in the third one it wasn't just them to there was

other people that were helping them I wish they would have went more into that yeah um oh I remember what I was going to say the whistler basically reveals that like he all his wounds that he gets like the separated shoulder or any other cuts and bruises or whatever they'll be all healed by a morning that's a long time to be in pain to I'll be good at six in the morning but fuck that um so oh that's right they were explaining that to him um where did blade go when they came in and and uh and they got whistler uh where did he go was that when he was that when he was that when he was was in the park talking to Deakin? Yeah, when, I don't know why I laugh at the scene when,

because they're having their little conversation. He's got like a little girl that he's holding, that he's got his little, one of his little claws, like, to her neck. And he's basically like, you know, don't do anything or I'll kill her. When he throws this girl and she hits that, I don't know if it's like a hot dog stand or something that she should have been, I don't know, because she just kind of gets out. She can grow something. Yeah, she has like a little, a little tiny little cut, like on her head or her cheek or something. But he threw her and she just hit that, I'm going to say hot dog stand like full on, just bam.

And it was like far too. It wasn't like right there. Yeah, nobody says, this is what made me think. I always thought this was New York because it just kind of seemed like nobody gets. I'm not saying people in New York don't give a shit about anybody, but it just kind of seems like in New York people mind the business. Because early in the movie, when the cop, when Blay's like smacking the cop around and he runs off, like nobody's even looking that way. Until Blade pulls out his gun, then everybody's like, oh, shit, I need to get out the way. Yeah.

But then with the little girl, like he's this little girl, this guy throws this little girl and nobody's like coming to see what's happening or seeing her she's okay. because when they were talking before that when he was I mean other than he wanted to meet him and I think this was the first time that Blade and Deakin are like face to face and he told he told him what he was doing right Deacon told Blade about the blood God I don't remember yeah he told him the blood God was coming and basically there's nothing you can do about it all right So while that meeting was going on, Whistler and the doctor were trying to work on a new serum because she came up with something and then, weren't they testing it out and it blew up? Oh, that was the other thing that they used. It was from treating blood clots, but she turned it into a weapon because it reacts violently to vampire DNA.

That's right, because that was the reason that blew it up. And then he made those little vile things for weapons. But while they were there talking, this is when Deacon's group came in, and they grabbed Karen, and then they, they should have showed this. I mean, because they beat up Whistler, but then when Blade comes back after, because Deacon threw that little girl,

and then took off. I did like the, the CGI wasn't the greatest when Blade took a few shots at Deacon and it just slowly got out of the way, Matrix style. The CGI bullets didn't look good.

But it looked good in 98. Yeah, I was going to say, 98, what can you do? And then Deacon ends up just running off. So Blade goes back and that's when he finds Whistler. And it looks like they just all took a bite out of him all the vampires that were there because he

told me yeah they took her and he goes there he goes I'm dead just give me a gun basically told Blay just let me die get out of here so he kind of loaded up with all his weapons and then and then took off but when he gave that gun to to Whistler and then he whistler tells him all right now get out of here So Blade just kind of walks away. As he's walking away, he hears a gunshot. And we're like, oh, fuck. So Whistler killed himself.

We'll come back to that in a minute. I didn't understand the little plant thing that he was had in his room. What was? You know what? I pulled that up and I cannot find it. I know he was into like, because you see he kind of, he kind of meditates and, all that stuff with the incense. So I think it had something to do with that.

I think it symbolized something. I don't remember because when he, after he was done, he pulled it out and then he cut the roots and then took off. Maybe it symbolized the end of something. I don't know because of Whistler died or something that maybe it was the end of something

and he was moving on. Okay. Because after... Go ahead. sorry. I was going to say, we'll just go. We'll just go with that. Well, after Blade, when he goes, he finds out where Frost penthouse is.

He goes there. And I think, oh, he was in his room. And then there's this big metal thing in there, which I thought was pretty awesome. That was basically Whistler, not Whistler, Deacons. It was a bed, but it was his, like his coffin. I thought that was pretty neat Because when Blade's standing there

It opens up And uh The black lady comes Stepping out And he turns around and looks Looks at her And uh It's um

it was it's Blade's mom because she called him Eric didn't she? Yeah yeah because Blade's name actually was

Eric Brooks well when well that was the name that she gave him she never really got to see him when he was born but

how did she give him all that name the name when she died at giving birth I don't know maybe she just had that name in her head

before I don't know but because she calls Eric and he turns around. He realized that, I mean, how did you know that was his mom if he never seen her before?

Well, according to the movie, he remembers her face because he keeps seeing a flashback. And how did he see all that? I don't know. It's movie stuff, I guess.

Because she kind of doesn't, they kind of made her completely different from when she was a human. Yeah. And giving birth, like her hair and everything. And, you know, Sinai, Lathan is a sexy woman.

So, I don't know. I like the vampire version because she looked hot. I like that long hair. But then she based, what did she do to him? I mean, how did they catch him? Because I know she was distracted. They came in with the cattle prods.

Oh, that's right. and then they blasted him up and then he fell down. Yeah, and then Deacon Frost said how it was kind of crazy that this whole time he's been searching for the guy that killed his mother and it was him. Well, that's right. Deacon was the one that turned her. Yeah. So, I mean, we don't even know how old Deacon knows.

He could have been around for centuries as well. Yeah. And finally got his crew together and it was finally time to strike. um so blade wakes up in uh some some little layer wherever they were and uh

they have Karen and they throw her uh into this like a little pit and then while she this part was kind of creepy I mean this part scared me oh shit um she's in this little underground thing was there like dead bodies in there or

Yeah, and real quick, her back should have been broken. Oh, yeah. It was kind of like a half ball of concrete or something. I don't know what it was. Yeah, because when she fell, they threw her down there, she did maybe bash the back of her head, broke something, but then she wouldn't have been one of the saviors of this film. But anyway, so she's why she's down there,

there's just creepy looking fool down there he looked like a zombie vampire or something I don't know why they didn't keep him but it was actually her ex-boyfriend the guy when she was in the hospital when Quinn was in there all burnt up when Quinn jumped up he bit him

and he didn't die so I assume he just turned into some kind of vampire I mean, they didn't explain why they didn't keep him around. They just threw him in that pit. Yeah, I think they use the pit. They keep them down there. And I think after a while, after they don't feed,

they start to look like how he is, kind of zombie-like. And then they just throw people down there for some reason. I don't know. And I, yeah, go ahead. He looks scary. Yeah. Because he probably, he probably hadn't fed this whole time. Um, how did she kill him? Or did she just knock him out and crawl out?

She hit him with like a bone and crawled out and then it looked like he was going to grab her. And then it just kind of cut to blade in that little thing that was restraining him that was draining his blood. Yeah, that was crazy. But real quick, how come he couldn't climb out? She climbed out, no problem. He's a zombie vampire. I don't know. I'm sure he was a little stronger than her, but all right. Because that thing was slanted.

It wasn't like it was a straight fall. So I don't know. We didn't make it. So that thing that Blade was in was kind of rough, man. It was basically like a little tomb mummy thing type of thing, because he was in it, laying in there. And they strapped him up. But then when they shut it, it had. like razor blades that cut into his wrists and then it was draining the blood into some little

receptacle thing that came down from the ceiling they they were getting ready to do the the the blood sacrifice to to summon the blood guy what was the blood guy called um the magra yeah they were because they had them all they were supposed to have 12 all the way around But then one of them was acting up and Deacon killed him. But then there's only 11. So I don't see why the blood God came if they were supposed to have 12 pure bloods in that little circle. Maybe he was an extra one. Maybe there was 13.

Yeah, I don't know. When Blade's blood came, was draining down into, it was a lot of blood came draining down. And then, uh, did it, did it drip onto all of them? I think it all, yeah. Um, some of it dripped on them and then it was all running together. And then it dripped on deacon. And he had like a weird look like he was super into the blood dripping on his head because he was kind of weird.

Yeah, because it just. once he became the blood god or whatever oh okay after the blood was dripping on everyone

everybody they're the which I thought was pretty sweet the the the skeletons or whatever started were coming out of their mouths remember and then

And they were all flying around and they were flying through Deakin. And then I guess that's what, because he was just, he didn't know what was going to happen. Because he was just, oh, just flipping and flopping and all that. And I guess that was just everybody's vampire soul or whatever going into him because he didn't drink the blood or anything. He just dropped on his forehead and then he became the blood god. Yeah. He basically absorbed everybody's spirit and then his eyes turned red and And all while that's going on downstairs, blade's still tied up

After Karen crawls out of that little pit, she goes and opens him opens it up and then gets him out releases him But he's like pretty much drained and he just has no strength. So she's like, oh fuck it. So she let's a blade feed on her just so he can get his strength back. I don't know how much it takes to get your strength back, but he seemed like he sucked a lot out of her because he was yelling and then he jumps into action. Grab's his best. And his sunglasses and then goes downstairs and commenced to kick an ass.

Okay, I'm watching the scene right now. He's just like roundhouse kicking everyone. All the bodyguards or whatever starts showing up. And then they just, just kung fu, everybody's kung fu fighting. The long-haired Asian guys come running in. I loved all the fight choreography, especially with Wesley Syves, because he can truly kick ass. Yeah, he's real deal.

Yeah, have you seen all his other action films. But, uh... Oh, real quick. We kind of skipped over. he killed he ends up killing his mom which was kind of a weird scene for me because I kind of felt like she was being sexual with him

she came in after he was had his strength back right? Yeah. Okay. And it's almost I don't remember. It almost felt like he was seducing her and I think did he, I think he stabbed her with a bone with that bone that Karen had.

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Then he went down and started to whooping ass. Yeah. so after he pretty much beat down all those fools it seemed like only a couple of them

were vampires because all the other guys he kicked out just fell to the ground and they were laying there and some of them evaporated into fiery dust and this is when after he defeats all them we get the

the sword fight between blade and Deacon Frost and it looks like it looks It looks like it was actually them, unless... Okay. When they showed the...

The Stephen Dorff face, you can see that it's... It's him in some parts, but then when there are other ones... It doesn't even... That doesn't even look like Wesley either. That wasn't Stephen Dorff doing that flip. No. With the far shots. But I liked all this, man.

It was pretty sweet. But the part that was badass is when Blay... cuts Deakin. He slices his arm off, and then he cuts him at the waist. 89 or 98 CGI looked amazing when we saw it in 98, but right now it looks kind of goofy.

But it was neat, though, because when he slices him, there's this big old gob of blood, and then it just comes right back together. And everything is all fine. and I love this little thing when he does something with his hand

and then it appears it just comes back the CGI looks crappy but it was neat and I like how Deakin looks he's got the red eyes and everything because after he slices him in half

Wesley's kind of turned around then he spins back around and he mouse like what the fuck and then that's when the deacon comes back together. So, Blade still has his sword.

Deacons just doing the flips and fighting him hand to hand. I don't like it when he's moving around super fast, but, oh, excuse me, blade stabs, dab stag him in the chest. He only moves around super fast that one point, and it was for no reason. Yeah, because he's still fighting him, and he's talking it. the shit. How did they... Oh, no, no.

When they were way up at the top, they took his sword and they took his little those little blue little serum explosion things that

Whistler and Dr. Karen made because there's his, he got his sword, he pulled it from the wall, but those little blue bullet-type things fell into this crack and he sees him and the deacon just thinks it's the serum that he needs to take but then blade throws his sword up there and you guys know that it it does that little thing it twists and then it opens back up he threw it right in the crack where those little

blue uh i guess they're darts or something he pulls them out and then he just starts throwing them left and right all that Deacon it happens so fast you really can't tell because they just the camera's just shaking all over the place

and it looks like there's five of them that are stabbed into Deacon yeah some motherfuckers always tries ice skating uphill Blades got one last one he flips it in there and does a spin kick

and kicks it right into Deacon Frost's head And this is, of course, with the vampire blood and whatever serum they made. Again, the CGI doesn't look the best, but it looks awesome. So whatever it is, it just makes Deacon turn into this big, puffy, fat, bloody thing, and then he just explodes. And then that's the end of Deacon Frost. he looks up to the very top

and Karen's up there and he tells her let's get out of here so where was this place at anyway? It was underground somewhere but was it under where they had their little archive thing? I have no

idea because it kind of felt like when they got to the top they were in the desert or somewhere kind of sandy all right so I don't know you never really see how anybody gets around anywhere I mean because

the did they use those little things other times as well oh he when they were fighting in the in the in the penhouse yeah when he was in the hallway he used one on one of those dudes

and he turned all big and fat and blew up yeah and CGI wasn't great there either oh no it wasn't so I mean that was pretty much the end of movie, but then there's a scene where was it Moscow that came

across the bottom? Yeah. And then he's in there. We see a little neon sign and it's a sign of whoever's vampire club that is. And what does he say? Blade is speaking Russian

all of a sudden and he says something to him. What does he say to him? I don't know. Says something. I don't know. I guess he's getting ready to kick kick their ass. But let me see. I think that was

Russia. He's called Russia. Let me see. Okay, here with the ending scene. Blades snowing in Moscow where I assume that's where they are. And he sees the club or whatever.

It's, um, that one little area where Arnold was in red heat. I can't remember the place, but it's snowing hell of hard. I wouldn't want to be in Russia during the winter. But

we see a couple walking in the snow. They don't know what's going on. We see the little emblem of the, they're speaking, Russian. There's a guy and a girl. She's asking where are we going? He's telling her it's a surprise. and then

he's the vampire he's getting ready to bite her he's speaking vampire and then Blade okay here's Blade he's speaking Russian Catch you at a bad time

comrade and then that vampire goes running that blade and then Blade pulls out of sword and then the movie's over Oh I wish they would have continued

from there but well I guess they did in the second one right uh think so isn't that where they yeah that's where it's okay

well we'll get to that in a second don't want to just jump right into that one but uh blade Brian what are you gonna give this one um I have to I know I shouldn't hold it against it but I have to take a little bit off for the CGI.

But I love this movie. This is my favorite out of the trilogy. Wesley is one of his most iconic roles right here, so I'm going to have to give it a 9.5. Yeah, I'm right there with the exact same score. For the same reason, the CGI wasn't the greatest. If we would have done this show in 98, they would have been a 10. Oh, yeah.

But a million years later, and CGI is just so much better. But then again, this was late 90s CGI. It wasn't American Warwolf in London, crappy, shitty CGI. But, I mean, it was still good. It was amazing to us at the time. Have you guys ever covered that movie yet? American Werewolf in London? No.

Oh, the original? No, in Paris. Oh. No, we were going to, but I don't know. Is that the one where they bungee jump from the Eiffel Tower? Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking goofy as well. I think I've seen it once, only when I first saw it, and then I just, it was hideous.

It was a slap in the face of the first one. Yeah, last time I've seen it was when it came out in the theater. Yeah, that was the one and the only time I've seen it. Oh, that movie was bad. Anyway, so, yeah, not. and a half only for the the CGI that just didn't hold up but it was late 90 CGI so I mean you gotta take a half a half a point is it's it's not much but it's still it's still it takes it off for the how crappy it looks now but the mid the the film is

awesome when it's not CGI I thought all the fight scenes of choreography was awesome. Every time Blade was kicking ass and every time he pulled out of sword or whatever kind of weapons that he used, I thought it was awesome. Yeah, definitely 9.5 for me as well. Alrighty, everyone.

Let's dive right into... Shit, when this one come out? 2000. Yeah, March 21st, 2002. And we're gonna... Got to continue it with Blade 2. Godlights. Last time, he fought against his sworn enemies.

This time, he will fight with them. We will bring you a truth to destroy a new need of terror. You want me to hunt them for you? Calling all three. Not know who you are. Wesley Snipes. Blade 2. The Lord.

Start Friday, March 26. Second. Exploding from the pages of Marvel Comics comes a thrilling follow-up to the Blockbuster Blade. Half-Man, half-vampire, and consumed by a desire to avenge the curse of his birth and save the human race from the blood-drenched Armageddon. And this newest action-packed adventure Blade is forced to team up with the very vampires he hates in order to overcome a new type of monster which threatens to

eradicate both races. I did not realize this was directed by Guillermo del Toro until it was over. I had just totally forgotten about it. Let's go over to IMDB real quick. What is this one say? Blade forms an uneasy alliance with the vampire council

in order to combat the reapers who are feeding on vampires. Okay. This stars Wesley's Knipes, his blade. Chris Christophers is back as Whistler. We'll get to that in a second. Hellboy himself,

Ron Perlman, as Rembrandt, Lenora, Varella as Denisea. Yeah. Darrell, Norman Reis, is Scud.

Thomas Ketchersman, I guess, as DeMont. Damaskinos. Yeah, him. Luke Goss is Nomak. Matt Shizzle as Chupa.

Danny John Jules is Assad. Oh, man. Donnie N. As Snowman, really quick. Donnie N was wasted in this film. I was so bad. I forgot he was in this.

And then there's a bunch of other people in this as well. Oh, my God, Donnie, I was super excited when they showed him. I was like, oh, fuck, I forgot he was in this. Didn't it feel like he carried his sword more than he used it? Yeah. I think he used it once. And it wasn't even that much. but,

uh, man, I, I love this movie. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it wasn't good. It was, um,

there was way more action in this one. There was a lot more characters. Uh, wasn't just Blade and whoever, the vampire guys, he was fighting. There was a whole crew, uh,

of vampires. Uh, but, uh, they were, uh, the, uh, the,

um, um, the other vampires called or the the the reapers yeah those guys they were a new a new breed of vampire type things I thought they looked pretty sweet

because in the beginning of this is when what's his face what was the the main guy's name the main it was Jared no back.

What's his real name? Luke Goss. That was his name. Yeah. All right. We see this hobo-looking guy. He's going into a

blood bank. I assume because they were doing stuff like that giving blood because there was one guy going, yeah, man, they even pay cash and all this. So this is supposedly two years after the first film. And they end up, they're going to Prague and Blade was searching for Whistler.

It says who was thought to have died after being attacked by Deacon Frost. Again, we'll get to that in a second. So, yeah, so he, the Novak, is that what you said, his name or Nomak? No Mac. Okay, so he's down there with these other vampires and they're like, okay, yeah, we did your blood test. and we just got some things we want to ask you. They end up taking him into this little, like a private cell or something,

and they were going to, I assume, just drain him of his blood or whatever. Because when he's there and they're telling him what's going on, what did, I can't remember, what did they tell him before he attacked them? Damn, I can't remember. I just remember when he went in there they were getting ready to strap him down

and he started laughing and then he bit that one lady and then he ended up well there was a lady in there and I think there was two other guys and then he ended up killing all three of them and that was the beginning of the movie but then we go to Prague

and Blade is At this point We don't know why he's there He we just I just figured he was he was there Just to Kill more vampires But then once he gets in there after he takes out a lot of them

He uh He finds a whistler And Whistler's floating in like this Was that blood he was in? I think so A tank of blood And he's like submerged in it and he after he took out all these other dudes he He breaks him out and then he takes some I assume back to America

I don't know how he got there but all right So yeah just kind of gloss over that whole part Okay here's they do show a flashback when Blay gives Whistler the gun from the first one and then we hear the gunshot so did he they didn't say anything about this did he just not shoot himself or originally I thought he shot himself and he may have turned when he shot himself but then I was like well they have silver nitrate in the bullet so that would have killed him still yeah so maybe I

don't know maybe he couldn't do it or something and just kind of shot in the air I just thought maybe he was gun-new, but then was passing out and just fired it. I don't know. You guys come up with your own way on how he didn't kill himself. But so did he, this, they didn't show any of this or mention anything about it, but, uh, Whistler became a vampire. He wasn't a full vampire, but he was there. He turned into a vampire.

Did they go back and, get him or did he get out and someone capture him? I'm going to say, that's a good question because blades coming to them, as far as they know, they killed everybody. So why would they go back to his layer? Yes, I don't know.

Either. But then he was strapped up too. Well, I guess he unstrapped him because then he handed him that gun and I guess he would have I don't know. I mean, there's There's no explanation on why he's still alive or how they got him. Sounds like platforms. So, I mean, they don't touch on it.

He doesn't, I don't even think Whistler knew where he was. I think he might, if he didn't walk out of there, maybe he just woke up wherever it was. And I don't know how long it takes to get back to L.A. from Prague, but somehow they got back. and uh yeah plot holes everyone because he brings did he go ahead did he ship his car to russia he either that or i don't know and that at leaves would take almost 24 hours to get back to uh la the ship in your car and uh everything else um because wait a minute wait a minute was this the motorcycle scene?

Yeah, in the beginning. Were they in Prague or were they back in America? I think they were in Prague because nobody was speaking English. Okay, it says unbeknownst to belay, a pandemic known as the Reaper virus is spread throughout the vampire community. Effective vampires are turned into Reapers, mutation of vampires immune, most vampires' weakness who kill humans and turn any vampires,

they feed on into reapers. Unable to contain the reapers, it doesn't say. It just goes into other things. Earlier it says Blade discovers Whistler is being held at a vampire safe house after returning to their

headquarters. Blake gives Whistler an anti-virus vampire serum to revert him back to human. But I felt they was in a different country. It's not saying here, but nobody was speaking English. So, okay, well, I guess I think they, he set up camp over there.

I think him and Scud just went, I assume that's what they did. Maybe they found out where he was and said, all right, let's go over here. because it said it was it was shot in the Prague in the Czech Republic and then they did some stuff in London so all right so I assume he packed up his gear and they went over there

and they set up camp all right that seems a little more legit than bringing them back to America unless he's got a blade jet or something I don't know unless they can fly and they just didn't us but anyway so yeah because

they uh did he take Whistler back to uh did Daryl to Scud and then go back and they had that motorcycle scene

no that was before he got Whistler Oh okay so that was uh when he showed up and then uh because I like that he took out those uh that one well he was going to kill that one fat guy with long hair but he ended up letting him go but he killed those other dudes on the bikes

and then he jumped on a bike and I love this scene because he was going full speed at his car and then he stopped slid looked at it get blew it a kiss and then took off again I thought that was awesome so he's rescued him took him back to his layer I assume pumped him up with the same stuff that they gave Dr. Karen I want to know what happened to her I think that would have been better to bring her along. Yeah, I think they said she's the one that came, she, this version of the antivirus

she came up with. Okay. So, because they, he pumps them up with it and he tells, uh, Wistler like, look, um, put you in this room and, uh, when the sunrise, these vents are going to open or these shades. And of,

uh, if you're human, you're going to be all right. And if you're not, you're going to, shh, you're going to turn to dust. like the other vampires. But this whole time Scud is like, man, what are we doing? Why do we have him? He's just going to slow us down or whatever because Scudges didn't want none to do with Whistler because he was the new Whistler and everything.

He was helping Blade with all his equipment and all that. And then we just go right to the next morning and then the Whistler is all good. Because he really doesn't even remember because he really doesn't even remember because they ask him, do you know what happened? He's like, nah. They just, they drug me here. Yeah, and I think they tell him how long it's been because he doesn't even know

how long it's been that he's been turned. Yeah, so. Um, okay, so they're, they're in their little layer and they're talking, uh, and everything and they're doing the introduction between Skud and Whistler. And then the, the alarms go off. and they're like, oh, someone's here because they have the little heat or the,

I guess they weren't heat seeking because vampires don't have no heat in them. But they see that someone's broken in. And the CGI and this wasn't the greatest either, even in 2002. I did like the whole ninja thing when they were swinging from the rafters. I thought that looked cool.

But once they come down, and then Blade is already once he starts fighting with that one when you're flipping and flying around, that just didn't look good at all. Look real cartoon. Yeah, it kind of just reminded me of that

scene in the Matrix, in the second one, when he was fighting all the agent Smiths. Oh, when he was swinging around the pole. Yeah. Yeah. It reminded me of that. It didn't. It was neat. I mean, I liked

when Blade and this other character was fighting with the swords and everything, but it just the CGI wasn't the greatest. So once they kind of stopped fighting is when they introduced themselves.

Who were their names? It was Nat. No one. Either NASA or Nisa. I think it was Nisa and the other guy was Assad.

Oh, I was that it was the guy. So she's explaining them why they came to see Blade. We need you to help us fight this other thing. Did he, did she tell him right here and there, or did they take Blade back to their lawyer and tell him? Because she did tell him, we need your help. Yeah, because they gave him that little scroll thing. And I guess he, I guess he, knew what that was. And so they went to him and Whistler and I think Scud.

They all went and that's when they met Domosquinos believe is his name. And he was like one of the head vampires and they basically break down the whole Reaper virus and like Glades basically

like you know what does this have to do with me and he's like they just don't feed on humans. They feed on vampires and the virus is spreading quickly. Yeah, because she did, or the heat told him he told him, he's like, yeah, he goes,

they're out there doing this and it's really quick on how their virus spreads once they, once you get bit. And that's when he goes, well, he goes, well, they're doing the job for me. Well, what do you need me for? And then they're saying, well, once he

wipes out all the vampires, eventually they're going to turn to the humans. So that's when Blay, like, All right. I like when the one guy walks in, and he's the one guy that's explaining stuff. And he was like, are you a vampire? And he's like, no, I'm worse. I'm a lawyer.

Who was that guy? Was that, he's always a bad guy every time I see him. Yeah, he was. I don't think he even going to list him on here. I remember he was one of those Nazis in Outpost. Did you see that one? Yeah. He was the one that they found first.

And then he's been in a ton of other movies where he's always the bad guy. But yeah, they explain to him what's going on and how we're going to join Foysers and we're going to try to defeat all these guys. Because they said if we don't do it quick, there's going to be thousands of them running around. So this is when they go, well, who's going to help me? And then this is when we're introduced to Ron Perlman. and the gang. What did they call them?

The blood pack. And they said, yeah, these guys have been training for the past couple years to basically fight Blade. That's what they said. They go, yeah, these guys were trained to kill you.

But since we're working with us, we're going to try to kill these, what are they called? Reapers. they were we're going to kill them so Blade is kind of like eh all right Scud is like dude what are we doing well why are we helping them

same thing with the Whistler why are we helping these guys and then Blade is like well we got it we got to do what we got to do to try to stop them so but I mean you can see Scud and Whistler don't really want to be on board but Blade he's

as well he doesn't want to do it too but he understands that he would have to but when we're introduced to everyone the camera kind of goes around and they start saying who's who and now this is when

when I saw Donnie Ann I was like oh yeah and then he does nothing did he even have any lines he says here he's supposed to be a mute oh okay I'm probably going to say

because of his English at the time yeah it wasn't the greatest then but all right I mean, he served his purpose for the little bit of screen time you had. But what's his name? Matt Schultz, uh, Chupa. Chupa. That was fucking Vince from Fast and Furious.

The first one and then whatever other one when he came back. Fast fire. R.P. Vince. I didn't like him in the first movie and he kind of made up for it in the fifth one. But he was an asshole. And he was like the exact. exact same character in this one.

Except for he didn't he didn't have the dumb haircut he had in this one. I think he was the bad guy in Transporter. Was he? I think so. I don't really remember

that movie. You might have to watch those. You know, I've never seen that reboot one. Reboot? Of Transport? Yeah.

Was it a different? Yeah, that was a different. from guy. Yeah, he was the villain in Transporter. The first one and there was a yeah, the transporter refueled. Oh, oh. It came out, came out in

2015. I only saw the first two. I didn't. Was that the third one when they redid it? No, there was one more with Jason Statham and then they did the fourth one was a reboot. And it's that dude

from a Deadpool, agex the villain I don't know I would have to find out who I don't remember I don't know did I see the third one I fall I don't like the third one I've fallen asleep every time I've watched it

I even fell asleep in the theater watching because I remember my wife waking me up telling me the movie I don't even remember that I didn't even know there was a third one unless I did see it I don't know I get them all confused For some reason I get those movies and crank confused. Those, those movies. I got to do crank too.

I like both of those. Those are awesome. But so anyway, so they team up with Blade and the Blood Pack. Of course, we're on permanent. We've got to be the asshole of the bunch. Geez, again, I just watched this. I don't remember. Are they going?

Where did they go? to first no well right before they leave Ron Pearlman's mouth and off to blade and then blade puts that little detonator in the back of his head sticks it in his head and he has a little switch on him at all times and I think after here they go to we get another basically we get a rave like the first one but times ten oh that's right they go there to the to the house of pain is what they call it some big nightclub same thing

vampires in there and armed security walking around and obviously no one gave a shit about them because they all came walking in full full weapons out and everything and no one cared because they were looking for

what there was a no what's his name the nomac okay they were looking for him they see him in there still dressed up as a hobo with the hoodie and then they go running did they go downstairs and they had the fight

with them? Yeah, they kind of split up. Blade and Nisa go check other stuff and everybody else is like kind of checking the crowd in the club and that's when you start seeing other Reapers pop up and for some reason

are they all like dressed the same? I look like it. They're all... Like they all got little jackets and little hoodies and oh that's why I be because they uh once they seen um uh hellboy and those guys all started opening

fire on them and didn't and not care who was in the way they were just they were just fired in every direction hitting the people that were there dancing and they didn't care yeah

were they pure bloods because they kind of just said I know one one of the blood pack was just kind of like as far as everybody there he can just say fuck them all or something like that so were they pure bloods i assume they were um and i also and i also felt like i felt like the reapers recognize who they were and nobody else did because you would think they would know nisa because she's like the the head vampire's daughter or something she's royalty

i i assume i mean because they They just went in there first just looking and then when they found him. That's right. Blade and Nisa saw No-Max. So they run after him. And then everyone else upstairs, that's when they started seeing all the other reapers in there. And they started opening fire and just whoever got in the way of the gunfire was dead

because they were all just bodies were dropping and just disintegrating. So they were downstairs. um did they did bladen them fight with some before they found that uh

the little uh opening yeah they fought some and then that's when they meet um nomac and then while this is happening uh

what is that fucking guy's name and his little redhead chick uh valour valer valer lane and lighthammer they have the little

they've run into some in the, I guess they would look like a kitchen or something? I think so. I can't remember. So basically there's like, we're cutting at all different scenes throughout this building where they're fighting these reapers. All right. It says right here, they encounter the reapers and discover they are much stronger and tougher

than normal vampires. Because when they were shooting at them with all their little special bullets, because Whistler, before they went in there, Whistler was saying, okay, this has got silver nitrate and this and this and that. and they were, when they were shooting, they were hitting them because they were riddling them with bullets, but I mean, nothing would happen. And it says, No Mac arrives and holds Nisa hostage.

When Blade arrives, Nomak asked him why they are fighting as they both hate vampires. However, as once vampires have been killed, the reapers will simply move on and kill the human. Okay, there we mention that. Blade attacks Nomak, Blade strikes Nomak, with an anti-vampire weapons, but the effects are minimal.

All right. So when Nomad grabs Nisa, and he, that's why he goes to tell him, he's like, why are we fighting each other? He goes, we should not join forces, but we're both killing vampires. Well, why are we fighting, as in Nomack and Blade? But Blade knows that once they kill all the vampires,

they're going to turn it on the humans, and then eventually go after Blade. So they, they're underground under this club place where everyone else is getting riddled with bullets upstairs. But then what did the blade hit him with?

And it didn't work. Did he shoot them with? The sunlight, the UV thing. Okay. Because that seemed to be, that seemed to be the only thing that's working on the reapers. Yeah, because all the little weapons that

they had that they were using none of it none of them it was doing anything yeah because they find out that they they can't go for the chest because the their the virus mutation had created like a kind of a plate

bone over their chest that protects the heart yeah because we didn't find that out until after I mean after a nomad gets away they they find uh so they were trying to search for an entrance on how they got into that place and downstairs they found some kind of I guess entryway from from the sewers or whatever and there was one of the reapers was stuck in

like his arm was stuck stuck stuck in it so that they they took him back to to their layer wherever they were working together and that's when they did an autopsy on him and opened him up because they were checking his mouth and everything and then when they opened up his chest it didn't even it did it was all they were human before or vampires or whatever maybe that's how vampires are

are built but the organs inside those reapers none of it looked like how it should look in there and yeah their heart was encased in like bone and it wasn't in the center of the chest it was off to like

to the left side of their chest because when they were opening up moving things around they saw that there was bone around it and she tapped on it and they said but he goes you can get you can get at it from the sides they said but straight on you

couldn't do it because all that bone was right there did they open his mouth yeah and that's when they drop the blood in there and says it's it's dead but it's still alive basically yeah so that's right she uh the nisa the vampire she slid her finger and then just one drop of blood onto i don't know what that was inside of

inside inside the chest of that reaper and it all just started moving um i think they found out the the mouth stuff later on they i don't think they felt they talked about it right here I think they were just more fascinated with what the insides looked. Because they were trying to figure out on how to kill them. Because none of the weapons that they had, all the high-tech stuff they had, wasn't doing anything. Because the bullets wasn't stopping them, getting cut, and all that wasn't stopping them. Beating the hell out of them wasn't doing anything. So they figured that something.

And now, yeah, Blade was the one to figure out that the sunlight and the UV light would knock them out. and mention it real quick they lost one of the blood pack it was that guy priest and um light hammer he got bit by one but he's not telling anybody about it how did that first guy did they just attack

they attack them and they just all start chewing them up oh that was he the guy laying there and he said shoot me and did they shoot him they kind of, I don't know, because Brown Perlone was being an asshole and he kind of like sliced off half his head. Oh, that's right.

He was like still alive. Okay, that was that one dude with a long hair. All right, I remember. Yeah, because he cut his head off and it fell. And I think, yeah, he walked up and shot him. And then he just, because he disintegrated. I don't know why his head didn't, but all right. So after they lost him

And which one of the guys got bit? A light hammer, the big dude. Yeah, he looked like a dude from... Did nothing. Yeah, a dude from New Zealand. He looked like he had that tribal stuff that they put on their faces. I don't know, I could be wrong. He did nothing throughout this movie and the chick that was like his, I guess his girl,

the redhead, she did nothing. and I'm reading here it would have been interesting if they would have mentioned this I guess originally the script said she was the twin sister of Raquel which was Tracy Lord's character in the first one okay but they really didn't give a background

on any of the blood pack no they just said these are the guys that we trained to to hunt you down but since we can't we're using them in there yeah and they're kind of fucking if you honestly most of them were weak yeah I mean they didn't do it even the one guy they got bit with his big giant hammer he didn't he hit like one of them that was he

didn't do much with it it didn't kill him when he hit him no and I don't I mean when he because he got bit good and because once you get bit by those things they they pump in whatever their venom is because later they find out when When their mouths open, because it like splits down the center. You can see the scar on the bottom of their chin, and their mouth opens up like how Predators' mouth opens. And then they're, I don't know if it's their tongue or something that comes out that bites you. And then that's what pumps in whatever venom they got. Because he lasted at least a day after getting bit.

yeah because where they go next is they go into the sewers looking for Novak but this time they go during the day because they're they're trying to use the sunlight against the reapers yeah because they they go down there but before they go in there um whistler and um what's darrell's name's good they uh they come up with these um little UV light grenades. They said there's like a little 10 second delay. It's about the size of a baseball. And then once it opens up,

there's, I think like about five different portals of light that just shoots out super bright. So they were saying that just be careful with these and get out of the way if you set one off. Because they had a bunch of them that they turned into one big bomb and then they kind of distributed them.

rest of them out to everyone else. Okay, that's right, because they went back to that, to that club down into the basement, to where they found that one Reaper that was stuck in that little, the door that came down. And they opened that up because they said, yeah, look around for a level to open that up. So when they opened that up, and that's when they all went down into the sewer. The whole blood pack with Blade was, Whistler with him, too? Yeah, that's right. Because he has a little,

uh, little confrontation with one of the blood pack later. Oh, that's right. And, uh, the, Daryl. He's the only, he's on,

he's just, just call him Daryl. Daryl is upstairs or up in the, uh, in their little, uh, the little van they had. And he,

he's kind of a little headquarters that, it's communicating with everyone. So they're rolling around there trying to, uh, figure it out. Oh, They also made some kind of like spray that attracts the reapers. I can't remember what they called it.

It was like a pheromone. Yeah. So they were saying they will spray this. Because they were like, well, how are we going to find them? They said, well, we got this and they're going to come to us. So that's when they only use it like once. And that was. Yeah, I think they kind of turn.

Like, I just remember one scene somebody had, like, left it on and kind of threw it. So it was just constantly spraying. Yeah. Was it Blade or Whistler? I think it was Whistler. He set it down and just, like, left it on. And it was spread. Oh, that's right.

Whistler did it because he was fighting with, um. Chupa. Yeah, he was fighting with the Chupa. So he opened it up. And then he was basically bringing all the, the reapers to him. because when they're walking around in there, I mean, Whistler's human and he can't see in the night, in the dark.

They end up giving him some little night vision glasses to walk around in. But then they get it, he starts getting it into with Chupa, and they tell him like, look, one of your guy, one of our guys is dead. So now one of you guys got to die. So that's when it was Hellboy and Chupa were messing with him. and the Hellboy took off

went some other direction. But when Chubel was throwing Whistler around pretty good. I mean, Wistler was trying to fight, but humans can't fight. Vampires are too strong. This part sucked. Well, before all this,

Donnie N. got some action in for a second, because he pulled out the sword and he was kicking ass for a little bit. But then when they were down in the sewers, Oh, he didn't get attacked by them. He got killed by the other dude.

What was the big guy's name with the hammer? Lighthammer. Yeah. Because he, by this time he had turned. Yeah, because when we see Donnie in down there, like he's ready for action. And then when we see him again, he's laying on the ground dead.

And that light hammer was chewing him up. I was like, what? Yeah, you don't even really, you don't oh gosh this might have took some points off of this movie because you don't even give Donnie yann a good death scene we don't even see him it's like in the dark and we just see him laying there so i was kind of and and then lighthammer chases uh his chick and like a dumb ass she she climbs up the ladder and opens the manhole and all this sunlight comes pouring in and kills both him. She was probably the one that

other than priest who got killed in the club, she did absolutely nothing. There was nothing that she did in this movie that made me think she belonged to the blood pack at all. Like the only ones that that

seemed like they were badass was Hellboy, Chupa and Donnie Ann Snowman. That was it. Yeah. The Lighthammer didn't do much. He swung his hammer around a couple times excuse me now that chick didn't do anything at all I don't even even think she no killed anyone I don't even see I didn't even think she did

had an action scene at all and I'll say what's his name did a little something aside the black dude yeah he did some he did some damage while they were down there and even when they were up in the club he did some stuff but yeah but once they were all down there. Hellboy and Chupa events from Fast and Furious, that's when they were turning on everyone.

While Chupa was fighting with Whistler and then more Reapers came. And the he had already sprayed some on Chupa before. So he had it on him already

so that then when Whistler lit that one off and just kept it going. They all came out of nowhere. He kind of escaped, and they all attacked Chupa, and then that was it for him. He got chewed up. I assume they just killed him, because he never came back, or he didn't turn into one of the reapers. So, I mean, I think they just slaughtered him, because like a whole bunch of them jumped on

him. That's when we see Lighthammer turned, and then he killed Donnie Yan, and then, um, He chased that girl up, up the manhole. She opened it up, killed both of them. Hellboy was there. What was Hellboys now? I'll keep on him, Hellboy. Reinhardt?

I was going to say Clay. I was going to say Clay, Hellboy. You guys know who he is. So he got it. He was, it was him. No, no, no, wait. Blade and Nisa

were getting into it too because fucking they were in the sewers like basically in the water and the the reapers were coming from every direction but then I like this part

because they were under the water and they came jumping up and attack them Yeah because what's his name was there with them aside and like a whole group of them just come out of the water

out of nowhere and just drag him under. And then, because that's right, because when he went under, they just started firing into the water. I assume maybe trying to kill us out or just trying to kill any of them. Again, their bullets weren't doing anything, but I think it was more just to slow him down. Because when they're in there, they were shooting in every direction,

and they were falling and taking hits, but they kept jumping up and running after him. And Blade pulled out his sword for a little bit, but then they realized at that point their weapons were just useless to the reapers so uh blade uh he told nisa just get the hell out of there because he was going to light off

the bomb because hellboy tried to do it but he couldn't do the switch so he he got the hell out of there he just took off and then that's when the blade was like wait where's the the bomb or whatever the light bomb and then he goes, oh, it's right over there. So that's when Blade went over there to do it.

Before he lit one of them off, one of the little grenade things, and took out a couple of them. But when there were so many of them in there in that one little room where all the water was, he opened it up, and then he finally switched it. Because he told Nisa, just get the hell out of there. Don't be around when this thing goes off. Because Blade just stood there. After it, they, I don't know how many, it was in a big box.

I don't remember how many were in it. But when it went off, it just, like, whosh, lit up the whole sewer underground thing. Because the light was going everywhere. But Nisa must have got far enough away to where the flash didn't bother her. I think she kind of dove into the water, too. That's right. I don't see why I couldn't go into the water, but all right. It's a movie.

So it seemed like it wiped out most of them right there. didn't it or there was more but it seemed like it took out the bulk of the the the reapers yeah the whatever was left I think because you remember this is where Domesquinos is a little crew comes in and they basically take blade in they capture blade and whatever I think whatever was left there they were taking them out oh that's right so they took him and why did they take or well other than blade was trying to kill them to Yeah, you get you get the reveal later from Domesquinos that the

He was the one that made the Reaper virus because he was basically he was trying to make a race of vampires that were Like Blade that were able to walk in the daytime and Basically fucked up and made this virus, but I think they were gonna since they had blade They were they figured they can do it the right way and make this new new race of vampires Oh, that's right, because they were going to take his blood again. I mean, Blade's blood is what everybody wants. It's cold.

Yeah, because in the first one they had him, they tried to drain some blood at him. And this one, I thought it was a little more ruthless. Because once they had him on this table, there was these, like, spikes that came up. And I assume they had little holes in it to suck his blood out. When that guy opened it up on the table, like a whole bunch shot out. But when they got blade, only four of them came out. Two of them shot through his wrists, and the other two shot through his legs. And once they came through his body and his arms, there was his little spurs to shot out the side.

So he couldn't just pull himself off of there without tearing all kinds of stuff up. Did they get blood out of him? Or was the, I can't remember if they did or not. I think they got some out of it, but this is when, um, Whistler, I forgot how he gets free, but he comes and he, he breaks him out and drags him to the, uh, I guess they got a, for some reason they have a fountain of blood, like a blood pool. All right, see, all right, here's a question. If, if they have to drink warm, hot blood,

straight from from the source from humans unless that blood was hot I don't know I didn't understand why they had that that pool of blood I figured was so we get to the scene and this is the only way they say blade is a perfectly place the blood fountain pool thing yeah because of the Dmonico's he was the the vampire guy, right? The head? Yeah. He, okay, here's another question.

Why did he look the way he looked? Because was he like one of the very first vampires? That's what I took from it. I took from he was old as shit. And have you ever seen the deleted scenes? No, I've just seen the movies. Yeah, I've seen like a couple of deleted scenes. He had like long hair in an alternate cut and it looked fucking weird as hell.

Oh, okay. yeah but I'm just taking it that he's like just old all right um I assume is his wife or whatever died somewhere but um he just looked like one of those little uh monsters for from the descent because he had the little the pointy years and everything and the weird nose um because yeah he did he explained it to them what what happened and who nomac was because uh nisa was like when she found out that she found out that that was her brother she was like wait what and then uh this nomac ends up showing up yeah because uh we forgot um when because she was questioning her father about nomac because uh in that club when she they

confronted each other he didn't kill her and he gave her that ring oh that's right and it was like their family, their family seal was on it or something like that. No, and he gave it to Whistler, remember? When they were, oh, okay. He got, he came across him and then, uh, he gave him the ring and then he leaned in and told him. Oh, that's right. What was happening?

Because then Whistler, when he hooked up with them, he, he mentioned to him, because, yeah, here's the ring and, and he threw it at him, or you handed it to her. Okay. And then he actually, he told her, uh, who Nomack was. And then that's when she could. front of her dad and he was like well sorry I fucked up when they were

tried to escape because there was just there was just no way out there was more reapers showing up they they were going to get in the helicopter and fly off but before the what the hell was the name? Demonicus

wait what's his name Damasinos before he could get out the door I don't know why no one was helping him. It seemed like all his boys, his guards just ran outside and were waiting by the helicopter, because he was shuffling along.

I know a lot of them got killed by Blade, because when he gets out the fountain, he's like all energized. And is this a scene where he slices Warren Perlman in half? Yeah. And gets his sunglasses back? Which I thought was dumb. I mean, I was

expecting a big fight with them, and we got nothing. So, No, we're skipping over parts. We get the reveal of Darrell is familiar. Oh, that's right. And he's going to, oh, this is when, well, this happened way before all this, Blade tried to detonate the bomb on Reinhard's head, Clay from Suns and Anarchy.

Yeah. But nothing happens. And then Darrell reveals that he's one of the familiars. and he's the one that disarmed the bomb, but then Blade said he already knew he was one of the familiars, and then he basically blows up, Darryl. And that was actually a neat scene when, that was kind of fucked up.

Darrell just told whoever who he was, and then second later, he... Yeah, I just, I like that, though. I like how Blade just knew the end. entire time who he was and who he was working for and he just went along with it. Because when Darrell blew up, man, he like blew up, like pieces flew all over the place. And blood was at worst.

I thought that was neat. Because you couldn't see his mark because he had it under his bottom lip tattooed on the inside. Because in the first movie, everyone had it like on the back of their necks. But yeah, I guess that was cool. Yeah. This was all the way. before he was Daryl, everyone. Yeah.

Now we're back to the scene where he slices, uh, round Pearlman in half, gets his glasses back. The fucking music comes on. And then he's just going at it through, he's going through every single guard they have. I mean, he's doing,

he's slamming him. He's stomping people's heads. Uh, I believe he's suplexed somebody. Yeah, he did. He held him up for hell along and then brought him back. Uh,

well, the part I didn't like, about this soon right before he got his glasses back after he sliced a hellboy in half Whistler went hey I don't know how the glasses got way up there but he

throws the glasses down and it's a crappy CGI slow motion and Blade doesn't even look he just holds his hands out grabs it and then puts it on you mean he didn't really kiss the glasses like that then he commenced

to whooping ass But all while that's happening is when Damaskinos and Nisa are dealing with Nomak. And how did he kill his dad? He bit him. That's right. Because it was like that kind of, he drained him.

They had the little emotional speech, oh, my son, I love you. And we can rule the world. No max was like, all right. And then he bit into him. I assume he just drained him and killed him because he didn't come back to life or anything

or turned into one of the reapers. How did Nisa get hurt? She basically let him bite her. Oh, that's right. That's what he did bite her. Because she just, at that point, she was like, well, I can't escape you. Fuck it.

Do what you got to do. And he ended up biting her. And then, That blade comes in, and this is when they have the showdown. They were hand-to-hand for a minute, right? They didn't pull out his sword at all. Yeah, they were hand-to-hand, and they were fucking doing all kinds of moves, and Nomack does, he jumps off the thing and does, like, an elbow drop

and all kinds of shit going on. How did Blades sword break? Who had, I think he stabbed Nomak with it, and Nomac, like, hit it and broke That's right. Because that's why he did, because he pulled it out of him and threw it on the ground. And then they started fighting some more. It looked cool because it looked like it was Wesley and whoever Nomak is, we're actually fighting.

But then they're doing a little bit of CGI that didn't look the greatest. But after all, the hand-to-hand and everything, then both kicking each other's asses. Blade picked up the blade of his sword. and just shoved it into the side of a nomac because earlier they said the only way you can because you couldn't he couldn't hit their heart straight on because of the the bone that was covering it but they did say if you came from the side you can you can get the heart so that's what that's what blade did he stabbed him in the side and he kind of just how he was saying something

I can't remember what he was saying but then he fell down did uh oh he kicked it in some more Oh no no no no no Mac did didn't he Yeah because I guess he I guess he knew he was dying And he just basically finished himself off Yeah because he got he got the The end of it and shoved it in some more And then he just fell over

And then push Turn the dust Blade goes over to Nisa Picks her up And she was like I always wanted to see The sun or sunrise So he takes her out under the balcony and he's holding her.

I thought he was going to kiss her, but... Well, they don't get romantic at all. So they kind of had a little moment for a minute. He was holding her, and then she looked over at the sun, and then just pshh. And then... The final scene was, I'm assuming, back in Prague, because he shows up in one of them adult peep

show things, and he... the guy that he let go earlier in the movie he's sitting there at a little booth and he's putting his money in and then the curtain goes up or whatever in his blade and he basically tells him I told you I come back for you and then he stabs him

I'm assuming at the head he was in Piccadilly Circus in London okay so that's where we were I mean that guy was wrong man because before he went in there he goes are the girls alive and I got last time I checked

you know, like, oh, cool, he went in, started pumping in the quarters. Didn't he have, like, razor blades and shit? I think so. Okay, really quick. Going back to that, when they were, when those, the vampires were dancing around the club, two of them was a guy and chick put razor blades in their mouth. And what was that for? I don't know.

There was some weird stuff going on. There was a one scene when somebody was, had someone else's back, like, cut open. and doing stuff. Yeah, I don't know what that was going on there. It was called the House of Pain, so I guess they were into that kind of stuff. Yeah. Anyway, back to that fat guy at the porn place.

He shoved in the quarters. He was all getting ready, and he pulled out the tissues. I assume he was going to rub one out first. So the curtain goes up and then blades right there. Yeah, he stabs through that thing, and then, psh, credits. so what do you rate this one um i have to give it a little bit less um i do like it it's very um

hero mo del toro because uh he uses this vampire design in his tv show that he did uh that came out years after this uh the strain and um the only problem is they introduced characters that you just i don't know they were just there they didn't do anything. Some of them like Donnie in, they made him a mute. He didn't say anything. He was underused. You had big ass dudes like Lighthammer that does nothing. And I don't know, just they introduced a lot of characters that didn't do nothing. But I like the whole aspect of having to team up with your enemy because there's a basically my enemy of my enemy is my enemy. And I like that whole storyline so I'm going to give it a

eight and a half I'll go up a little I loved everything about it to CGI stuff wasn't the greatest and yeah I agree with you a lot of these people were there were so many of them

they were like wasted they were just on the screen but I liked it I mean I love the first one I love that one more but this one there was like way more action in it so I would I would just I'd give it a nine. Just, it was almost a 10 if Donnie N would have did more.

But then again, I had not seen this movie in a really long time. So, and like I said earlier, I didn't even remember that Guillermo del Toro directed this. So, but yeah, it was an awesome film. I really loved everything that was going on. And I loved the, the reapers the most. I thought they were new. I love that design of when their face opened up and that little other thing came out that sent out the venom and everything. I mean, I thought their design.

They looked cool. They all looked like hobos. And I just thought they looked badass. And I did like Domesquinos on his appearance. I liked how he looked. It seemed like these guys were a little more. organized than the guys in L.A.

No, the council. Yeah, there was more of them and they didn't do shit. But this guy, it was just him. And he had a whole family and a crew to protect him. But they didn't do anything. And if that was another thing, if they were the ones that he picked to be the blood pack that could kick ass,

they didn't do much ass kicking, except for both of them. They would have never lasted against blade. No. I think he would have went through all of them. I think Adam, if they did all fight, the last one standing would have been Donnie-in, because they would have been some awesome sword-fighting. Yeah.

And he, did they, Donnie in, they didn't show him with fangs or anything, did they? I don't know. He just kind of stood there, holding the sword. Yeah. oh man but yeah wasted wasted characters in this

but yeah I'll give it a nine for Blade 2 but uh Blade 3 I do not remember what do you remember of it

did you watch it yeah I still don't like it like I said on the last episode I hate Triple H's stupid teeth in there um

I do like Ryan Reynolds because he's basically as Hannibal King he's basically Deadpool before he was Deadpool. I didn't like the whole storyline of Whistler having the second family that nobody even blade. It kind of seemed like he didn't know, but then one minute it kind of seemed like he did know. And you get introduced to more characters that go nowhere. Pat and Oswald's in it.

They introduce characters in that movie and then kill him off, like instantly. and I didn't think Dracula was badass. I thought he was going to be badass, but it just kind of fell flat for me. And I think they tried to be funny at certain times with the little, what were they, vampire poodles and stuff like that?

I thought that was stupid. So, no, I still don't, if I had to rate it, I probably give it a five. I thought it was being. The Blade Blade Trinity. The war between the humans and vampires continues, but the humans

best hope human vampire hybrid warrior Blade has been framed for countless murders turning popular statement against him. The vampire leader responsible for Blade's bad publicity is Danica Talos. That was Parker Posey. Who's

determined to finally lead her bloodthirsty Compatriots to victory. Now Blade must team up with a band of rogue vampire hunters, Ron Reynolds and Jessica Alba or Beal to save humanity. All right, I forgot she was in this, too. Parker Posey. Yeah, I kind of liked her character.

I'll have to rewatch this for now. I don't... Yeah, we'll probably... Because I've never seen the series. I watched the first episode when it came out, and I just kind of threw my hands up, and I was like, no. But I will watch it.

It is on To Be the entire season for free. So maybe we will do another episode where we talk about Blade, Trinity, and the series. Yeah, I mean, I'll rewatch it again. I watched it all when it aired, because I was all about it I went to the panel at Comic Con for it because I was like, Blade the series

but then I found out Sticky Fingers was going to be Blades so I was like he's also a little short guy so I was like all right I thought he did good if you guys know Sticky one of his eyes

is crooked so I was kind of wondering how that was going to play out but he kept his sunglasses on the entire time so but I liked what was going on in that I liked the bad guy in it was pretty cool his little sidekick that was helping him Jill Wagner I thought she was good in the series but yeah I'm definitely gonna have to rewatch it

because I don't really remember much that was happening but yeah yeah i'm definitely going to check it out maybe it'll change my mind um yeah sticky fingers is blade i just i don't know i mean onyx i was a big fan of onyx uh that first album uh back the fuck up was on heavy rotation for me in the 90s and i just never really seen him as blade or an action star just kind of i don't even know if he's even done an action movie before then so I was just like this is this is really weird that they just kind of cast him as the lead character

you go from Wesley to sticky fingers which I think he was sticky Jones or Kirk Jones or something like that when he was credited oh so I don't know I'll give it a try all right now I gotta see what he's done all I remember him was in

Friday and that movie strapped um Debo's little brother yeah okay well I guess he was in Leprechaun 6, back to the hood. I don't remember that movie at all. Strap was pretty good.

Yeah, that was good. With both E. Woodbine? Yeah, that was the first thing he'd done. It was that TV movie from, that was on HBO. That one was pretty good. He was in Clockers for a little bit. Looks like he was in Dead Presidents. I don't remember him in that.

Yeah, he was in a movie Ride. You ever see Ride? I think I did. I mean, as far. is action? Oh, House of the Dead too. I remember if... Oh, gosh.

I remember that. Yeah, Blade the series. It was only that one season for 12 episodes in 2006. And... He's been in a bunch of things, but I think... What's vampire writers? Sounds horrible.

The vampires roam the streets and the vampire hunters must hunt down and destroy the day walker. Okay, it just sounds like a blade rip-off. I'm kind of interested now. I'm going to have to search for that one. Came out in 2013. As far as action, I think

that was it. I mean, he's been in a ton of things, but I don't know. Yeah, definitely. We'll check it out and see. Well, I haven't seen the last time I watched it is when it aired. I was always planning on buying the series, but I don't even know if they put it out on DVD. I think they did, but I don't know.

Blade and Blade 2, two awesome films. Definitely check them out. They're all on Hulu, and I didn't know that until you just told me because I went other means. Yes, all three are on Hulu, and the Blade series is on 2B. What's 2B? It is free movies and TV shows streaming. Have you ever tried Crackle?

Yeah. It's like that, basically, where they have a few ads playing. Is it like ads throughout or just? Like two or three? times throughout a movie okay it's not that bad actually and they have like a like when we've been doing over on the horror returns like our older uh horror movies a lot of them have been on toby for free is there an app and everything yeah uh okay well again i guess i'll just have to put it on my phone you got to register and everything you can but you don't have to oh okay um let's see what pops up

Blade. All right, Blade the series. It's all there. Well, there's all kinds of cool things on here. A lot of stupid movies that I haven't seen in forever. Yeah, they got a whole full moon's section on there. Ah, full moon. Oh, snap, Sword and the Sorcerers on here. Me and Mike were going to do that. We were going to do, uh, oh, it's a riff track one.

Damn it. Well, I guess, I think Sword and Sorcerers on Amazon. All right. well all right yeah we're going to get out here I'm just scrolling down seeing all these movies all right this is part of the show tell tell the list of what you got coming

we just dropped a new episode of East Society is probably like our shortest episode ever we didn't cut any corners we did everything that we do for every show I don't know why we went through it so fast It's not even an hour long, like 45 minutes or something like that. But we hit all the bases on what we usually touch on.

But each society is 31 days of horror, still going strong. A ton more to go. I think about another 10. I don't know. We're almost done with October. I'm not getting burnt out about them, though, everyone. I'm just like trying to scramble with these last few episodes. But yeah, those are out.

If you haven't heard any, just go back to Skater Nest Podcast Network and just click on all the ones. They're all labeled 31 Days of Horror, so you can just start and have that it. But as far as that, that's all we got going on. And everyone, thank you so much for listening. So until next week, be safe and party on. Yep, and over right here on the Action Returns, we got John Carpenter Movies. Coming up next, vampires and Ghost of Mars. And as far as the horror returns,

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