The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #18: American Ninja (1985) & American Ninja 2: The Confrontation (1987)

Episode Date: November 14, 2020

This episode Brain and Nez take a trip to the other side of the world to help stop the Black Star Order of ninjas in AMERICAN NINJA. Then the guys head over to the Caribbean to help Joe out with a arms dealing drug lord in AMERICAN NINJA 2: The Confrontation.    Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   The Action Returns Twitter and Instagram coming soon.

I hear you think it's up to be some kind of a tough guy, a karate boy. Hey, I'm talking to you, Hero. Yeah, he thinks he's a real badass, Jackson. I think you should teach him a lesson there, Ace. Badass? You know, every place you go, there's always someone who thinks he's a badass, right? I need some passion tonight. This is episode 18.

I'm your host Brian and with me is always my co-host Nez. What's up, man? Yo, man, I'm good. What's going on? Same old, same old. Nothing's changed, unfortunately. Yes, very cold. I was hoping this first little snow dump was going to melt and go away, but no, it just continued to snow more.

It just snowed a couple days ago. The sun's been out. It's been okay during the day, but as soon as that goes down, it gets a hell of cold. So I turn the heater off here in the studio, so put my sweatshirt on, put my shoes back on. Stay young, everybody. Yes. Getting old sucks. Real quick, on some Blu-ray talk, I pulled the trigger on that steelbook collection of Rambo.

oh man i had it in my hands it was just that price yeah the the only disappointing thing about it i had to find one that had the least amount of damage to the outside oh so i got one it has a little ding in it but you have to really look for it and i went to like two best buys and like everyone they had was just like beeped shit and I was just like come on and you guys not even coming down on this price a little bit I know well I just dropped 200 on a tour drum set so oh nice I'm gonna hold off on big Blu-ray purchase I it was either by my drums or by this I already have all these movies but

that nice steel box I was like, ah, I just, I just set it down. Even the guy that was putting the movies on the right here, let me do it. I can't. What's, is it just the movies and that's it? Yeah, I think they're 4K. I think I haven't really opened it and looked yet. But it's a nice set.

Yeah, I'm going to hold off. There's one more thing I'm going to get, and that comes out next month. And that's the they live, uh, steel, book with the Keith David figure. Oh, damn. They're putting the steel book out again? Yeah, but I don't have it. So I got to get it.

Is it the same one? Okay. Or is it? Damn it, they can make me buy that again. Mike and a half on the the hell with, oh, my bloody Valentine one.

steelbook and the figure or the the the the minor the it's probably about as tall as the the the Keith David one but um I did I just wanted the steel book he goes well here man we'll go half give you the movie and out he wants the the figure so I was like all right cool so the books can be close to 30 anyway so it didn't really matter but um it also comes with a print so I don't know if he wants it or if he's going to send it up or or what I got a ton of those prints for all a lot of the steel books from shop factory. And I mainly picked God all those when I got them all at Comic-Con. If he gives me the print, I'll throw it on the wall with the rest of them.

Yeah. You're killing me, man. Yeah, I still want to pick up that slumber party mask or one with the figure. So I don't have that steel book. what yeah you didn't see that one no it like it came out like months ago but it's it's still available on a shop factory's website what did you think of that movie i guess we should do it next year yeah i'm i liked it for what it was you know yeah it wasn't much but i mean here 80s yeah uh i didn't care for the secret I don't know how many more they made I just watched the second one that was like straight to the video when that one came out

watched it once I don't remember remember it at all But I I'll have to look and we'll see unless they just sell it the steelbook separately That'll be fine with me but Man, they're killing me so much is coming out um Be on the lookout for, I got Theo looking as well. Joker, another still book came out. It's not the 4K one. It's just the regular Blu-ray,

but it's the exact same steelbook that came for the 4K one that everybody went and bought up. Really? Yeah, I saw it at Target. I had it because my son goes, you have this one? I was like, oh my God. And I looked at it in the back. was dented all the way across.

I was like, ah, he was like, we'll just get it. I was like, no, it was only like 12 bucks, but yeah, I mean,

I'm picky on, if there's a scratch, dent, nah, and I guess Best Buy is not bringing out the, the, Into the Spiderverse Steelbook again.

I was like, I didn't get it that first go around. That one went fast. Yeah, I grabbed it. So I'm like, fuck. I love that box. So, I mean, that's, that's the main reason.

I think it's just regular Blery. I don't, was yours 4K or just regular? I think it was 4K. Okay. Well, I just want the box mainly. If I, I can just buy it on 4K and put the disc in there. But, I don't know. I followed these one guys, these guys over in Europe.

They're still book collectors. Man, they got. nice steel books of the Star Wars trilogy. The original? Yeah. I know the, not the original. The original as well as the three prequels. I'm like, man, those are way better than the ones we got here.

But I need a multi-region player. And then I can start buying all those. I pulled the trigger on a Blair Witch Project one. Oh, wow. It's Region B, but I was like, I want that steel book. I have a feeling now. America's going to put one out and I'm going to have to rebuy it again.

See, that's what I'm scared of because I don't do the region, the other regions. And I feel like if I do, that's just, that's just open up a whole other camera right there. Yeah, I mean, majority of the ones that I have, they all play because they're usually region free,

but there's some over there. it's like region B or whatever it is. And I'm like, man, there should be no regions on these things. Just play. I can understand when VHS and all that. But it's a digital disc, man. It should just play on everything. But I don't know.

It depends on how cool the box looks. That's why I was like, well, I can just put my regular disc in there and be fine with it. Because I just love the cover. So I don't know. We'll see. It's on its way. So I'll throw pictures. If you guys aren't following me on Instagram at Blu-Rey-Nez, I just kind of started.

So I got videos of unpackaging as well as some stuff in my library. And whatever is on that page, that's just a little niche of what I have. I still got a ton more to put on there. And holidays are coming. And then all the sales start. and I'm like, I just start grabbing everything that I didn't want to pay full price for. I don't know.

We'll see. Yeah, I'm in the process of trying to organize my movies. I just found out I have like two copies of the, what is it, the Screen Factory TerraVision, the double feature with video dead. You got two of them? Yeah, I'm like, why the fuck do I have two copies? Well, uh, if you want to send it down here,

I'll take it. You want it? I'll send it your way. Yeah, I don't have that one. And I think I got two copies of From Beyond the Screen Factory. You will throw it in there. All right. Send it your way.

I'm like, damn, why I got that. That's what happens when you buy a lot of movies. Sometimes you forget. Yeah. Speaking of doubles, when I was organizing everything here in the studio, I don't know why. I know a lot of people hate this film, but I don't know why I have two copies of Twilight

the first one. I was like, how did I get two of these? And then I realized I'm missing a couple of the in-between ones. So, I mean, I liked it for what it was.

The last movie, I was mad at the ending. That was, to me, I thought it was bullshit. uh yeah i like it i'm team uh jacob so uh i'm all about it he wasn't native at all but everybody all everyone else in the wolf pack was but him so uh yeah double twilight i have no idea why oh one no they're both the extended or whatever one there is and uh i see that there is a steel book the that has all the movies in it and i'm like I don't want to know if I want to drop 40 on it.

I don't know. We'll see. If it drops during the holidays, then maybe. I'll grab it. But, uh, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. All right. Let's get into this first movie.

Uh, this episode, we are doing American Ninja and American Ninja 2. Of course, we're going to start with American Ninja that came out in 1985. IMD IMDB synopsis is American soldier obviously very skilled in martial arts single handedly takes on mercenaries

in the Philippines let's go to Google because that one I didn't like how they'd throw in the obviously he's skilled in the torrid heart of the Philippine jungle

a humble United States Army Private suddenly develops legendary skills and stealth believing he is the possessor of ancient martial artistry he takes on a fearsome black ninja in a final duel I like that one either but this is directed by Sam

Hurstonberg and I believe he directed yeah the ninja three the domination yes he directed that and he also directed

breaking to electric boogaloo yeah this is written by Paul D. Malshay Gideon Amir Avi Kleinberger

and this star is Michael Dutikov which which my daughter is cracking up every time I said that name because she watched part of this with me. Steve James, I always will know him as Kung Fu Joe from I'm going to get you sucker. Yep, that's all I saw. Judy Aronson, Gooch, Koch, Koch, I don't know, that's a fucking weird name. John Fujioka, Don Stewart,

and a whole bunch of other people. Nez, I know you said you haven't seen this in a while. What did you think on this rewatch? All right, everyone. I mean, I love ninja movies. Probably 80s ninja movies. There was a ton of them. But once Canon got a hold of the ninja thing.

My favorite one is Revenge of the Ninja with Shokensugi. He's, to me, he's the ultimate ninja, movie ninja. Then we got a ninja assassin and all those. And then again, there's a shit, shit ton of them. But when this came out, I was all about it. I mean, in the 80s, men, ninjas movies were coming out, left and right. So, and then I heard American Ninja. I was, well, what the hell is this?

And then I saw the trailer. And I was like, all right, cool. Michael Dutikoff, I remember him from, Tom Hanks's bachelor party. He was... Yeah. I just rewatch that today, too. So,

I was like, all right, cool, man. He's gonna be American Ninja. Let's see what this is, what this is about. I'm a buddy of mine. He's in, he's a martial artist, so he's like, yeah, let's go see this dude looks badass. I don't know how other

martial art skilled people are, but my buddy, man, Fuck, he was like, oh, man. Oh, oh, oh. Dude, shut up, man. Just watch the movie. This one was cool.

I mean, it's goofy. Again, I had not seen this. I think the last time I saw it was maybe when it hit cable. I mean, and I liked it for what it was, but I'm rewatching this. It was slowly coming to me as the movie was going. It's goofy and everything. and these well at least in this one

the ninjas were a majority of them were Asian so I was all right with that I did like the the bad guy ninja he was black star ninja

oh fuck Taraashi Yamashita yeah that sounds really good right there he was good as well as John Fujioka he was Shinuki

those three as well as Dutnikov and he was good and he didn't their martial art skills was good at Kung Fu Joe of course I mean Steve James he's Corporal Curtis Jackson in this he was good

but I mean again the movie's goofy and it's you can just laugh at it and enjoy it but I really liked this one. I mean, I thought it was cool for what it was. I mean, I love martial arts movies. I know, well, my buddy, his main complaint was how slow they were moving.

I was like, it's a movie. But then again, it's 80s now. When you flash forward into the 90s and 2000, you got all the Jet Lee stuff. And he's just the real deal. Then you get a Tony Jha and all that and how fast they were moving. But, I mean, for what it was. was for mid-80s, a ninja film. I mean, I thought it was really good.

The story was there. All the acting was there. Judy Arnison can't go wrong with her. I just didn't like her hair. Her hairstyle in it. I mean, I thought this one was pretty badass. Again, I laughed through most of it, especially dealing with when the ninjas and all that were fighting.

Or when Kung Fu Joe, he's only going to be Kung Fu Joe. But once he got into action, and then he, at the end, he turned into Rambro. So I was cool. Did you see Hollywood Shuffle with Robert Townsend? That's got to have been like 20 years ago. He did that little segment when he was Rambrough. That's all I saw as well.

But, I mean, the movie was, it is what it is. It's streaming on Amazon. So if you guys have that, definitely check it out um again it's goofy uh michael dutikov he was uh private joe t armstrong um his voice is really high uh because he kind of was quiet in the beginning for a while but then once he started talking um uh his voice just didn't didn't fit the character for how bad ass he was but uh that's just that that's nothing man what once the movie gets going to me you uh you enjoy it for what it is but again it's mid 80s uh martial arts film and i just thought it was badass man i love this

film i don't have it in my library i guess i need to look for it yeah i agree with you um this was uh it's been a while since i've seen it but it was definitely a movie that i watched a lot as a kid because uh one of the scenes that i love in this movie when they have have all the ninja weapons laid out. And they're just going through what it was. Because I remember as a kid getting those like martial arts magazines and seeing all the stuff that you can get and thinking that I was actually going to get fucking ninja stars and my parents was going to be okay with that and nunchucks and all that shit.

I liked the cast. Steve James, Kung Fu Joe, rest in peace. he definitely steals the show in this one and in the next one we'll get to that because they give him a lot more to do in the second one

Michael Dutnikar he was constantly diving and rolling and it's like every scene he was like jumping and rolling on the ground and I do I do see what your friend's saying about the slow moves but I mean that was, you know, kind of the time there, you know, I'm sure these, these stunt guys that are dressed up like ninjas aren't really, you know, ninjas in real life.

I mean, this, this is not the raid, definitely. They're not going full speed with their fight scenes. I love the bad guy ninja, Black Star. The only problem I have is in their fight, you know, it's some ninja shit going. down and then he pulls out some kind of wrist laser thing and that I hated that so much I'm just like you didn't do

nothing like that the whole movie and it's not even like he was losing the fight or anything and then he just pulls out this wrist laser and I was like oh gosh I don't even fucking remember that yeah I don't know if it was the same wrist or the other wrist but he also

had like a little wrist gun because he fired that one first before he busted out the laser. I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do, I guess. But yeah, story wise, it's pretty straightforward story. It's, you know, this is not gonna be like the time cop episode where we're trying to break everything down. Story is pretty straightforward, which I like, you know, you know, it's a ninja movie. You want to see the fight, the fight choreography and all that stuff.

So, yeah, I enjoyed this one as well. Yeah, I mean, with the story, I thought the story was better in this one than in the second one. But the story in this one is Joe Michael Dutnikoff. He's just, he was a kid that was just growing up from jumping from foster home to foster home into the juvenile detention system. And then I guess he did go to prison. No, he was about to go to prison. but the judge said, look, man, you can either go to prison or you can join the military.

So he joined the military. He was really soft spoken and quiet. Just wanted to do what he had to do, and that was it. But then people were just kind of noticing him and all weird because in the beginning of the film, there was an army convoy. they were taking weapons and supplies to, I don't know where, somewhere on the other side of one of the islands.

And then they're attacked by, or they weren't rebels. What were they just, wanting to steal all their stuff? Yeah, I think they were, I think they were a part of the ninjas. I think they were just like the random, not good enough to be ninjas.

So it's kind of dressed up like, like road workers, to ambush them? Yeah, so they ambushed them and they, uh, Joe kind of, uh, kick things off by, uh, because they, they pulled the guns on them.

They made all the soldiers put their weapons down, but then he kind of just, uh, jumped into action with the skills and, and then the rest of the army guys all dove in and it was a big, huge brawl. And then out of nowhere, here comes this whole team of ninjas out of the, out of the jungles.

in the Philippines. I loved every time ninjas came in. But a lot of these ninjas in this film, they were just like super loud and everything. They weren't even trying to be

like stealthy or quiet. My knowledge of ninjas and ninjitsu is from movies. I don't know anything about the culture or or the real story of ninjas. But I always liked, shout out to Shokensugi when in his movies,

he was quiet and he was stealthy and everything. Even like during the day, because there was hardly any night shots. There was some night shots in this, but all the ninja stuff was like all during, a lot of the attacks were like during the day and just. Now where to hide. I mean, but it was cool. I mean, once the ninjas came into play and then when Joe Was kicking ass and they did kind of realize that what those this guys got something about him Because he because and the ninjas are supposed to be the high up Dealing with martial arts and and they're all hired assassins from the knowledge that I know of them, but

I mean once the ones the the ninjas came into play. I mean, I thought it was cool. I mean, I just always loved how the, the ninjas looked. I mean, there was a bunch of movies. There's the regular black, black cloak ones, then you got some red ones,

and then you get the white ones, and then... They had all different color ones in this one when you get to the compound. Yeah, I mean, you got everything. I mean, even in Ninja, the thing Ninja 3, yeah, his was, he was green.

his ninja suit, but, I mean, it was, it was what it was. I mean, I liked, every time the ninjas came into, into the play and they had to fight, I thought it was cool. But Joe was just still soft-spoken. So a lot of the, some of the, the army soldiers were killed. If it wasn't by the guys that were trying to hijack them or the ninjas came in and were slicing and diced in some of the soldiers. but um i do i guess yeah it was the philippines because i was like unsure on where where exactly they were going so um but what what the story was behind the whole thing is that there was these um

these guys that were just basically arms dealers they were stealing stuff from from the military and uh and they were just selling them to the highest bidder but then joe came along and it was trying to put a stop to it. Well, he was more concerned about who are these ninjas. So that was why he was trying to fight, or he was fighting all of them. And then you've got the rest of the military coming in. But Joe was getting a bad rap because of some of the soldiers that died.

And everybody was like just giving him the cold shoulder and just kind of not wanting to talk to him. But then this is when, Kung Fu Joe comes in the play. I love this fight scene. It was goofy. Joe, he just, or Curtis, or Kung Fu Joe, he kind of just

gets in his face. Come on, man. I heard you're a tough shit. Why don't you fight me? He didn't even fight him. He just kept throwing him all over. He was just sweeping the legs and giving him back flips and then that was it. Oh, man.

I mean, Steve James, man. He's been in a lot of action film. I believe he's in the third American Ninja. I don't know who that guy is. I don't know the story on that one. These two are the only ones that I've seen. But when we talked about it last week,

I think there was five of them. I don't know if you want to fall down that hall. I mean, eventually, well but I just need to look for them because only these two were on Amazon so yeah but um after

the fight well it wasn't really a fight but um Joe got more respect from everyone else because since Kung Fu Joe was like yeah man you're Joe Curtis he was like yeah man you're cool man

you're all right man you know you know your skills so everyone kind of all right man he's cool but um the some of the the higher ups uh in the military they we find out that they are are are dealing with uh this arms dealer what was the arms dealer guy name um he was is it ortega yep because that is definitely sounds like victor ortega sounds like the arms dealer. He kept speaking Spanish, and I was wondering why they didn't throw up

subtitles, but all right. But yeah, he was the one running the whole show, and he had some of the military in his pocket on the payroll. So they knew they wanted to get rid of

of Joe because they knew he was a big threat. So they were just going to, you know what, let's try to deal with him because he's one of the sergeants told Joe that one of the sergeants that was on dealing with the Ortega they tried

to get Joe to go take this army truck full of supplies to somewhere some warehouse but then when he gets there he finds out that it's an ambush and then here come more ninjas

I loved when it was one-on-one with him when he was fighting the ninjas. It's goofy once they pull out their swords because you can clearly see they don't cut each other. But it looks like they do. There wasn't much blood in this, was there? No, because one of the scenes that is standing out in my mind is when the one trying to sneak up behind him and he stabbed him with the sword through the sack of rice. Yeah. And there was like no blood at all.

he's like no no every time somebody got sliced there there wasn't blood maybe when the camera were back on him yeah that there'd be some blood on them but when i mean there wasn't much i mean because he he did a lot of stabbing as well as the other ninjas when they were stabbing everyone else i mean there wasn't uh blood everywhere so i was like all right but uh but joe ends up defeating all those ninjas and then uh he this is when he this is when he realizes that okay there's there's something going on in the military they ended up uh because when he got to that warehouse before the ninjas attacked uh the ortega and his gang they came in and they were looking uh through the truck and there was this um it was like a big bazooka type of thing with uh

with a missile in it so that that's what they were uh that they stole and then they were going to sell it to the hires bitter. So Joe figured out what was going on and he made it back to the base and he was trying to tell their higher ups on, hey man, this is what's going on. The sergeant, so-and-so told me to take this truck there, but nobody wanted to believe him because there was always in, well, look at his record and then it was his checkered pass as he was growing up. So they were like, ah, he's just a troublemaker. And that's, that's where they were trying to get rid of him. But, but, So he ended up telling Joe And everything

And there was another guy Charlie that was with him He was a private Charlie So so goofy He was the The comic relief Yeah

When you first get introduced to Joe Because throughout the movie He's constantly just Looking upset Standing by himself And when you get introduced to Charlie He's playing Hacky

and that tells you about private Charlie Madison. Oh, shit, we skipped over the whole thing in the beginning. During the attack, first attack when some of those guys were trying to, Ortega's man, before the ninjas came in, trying to hijack the truck, I believe it was the general's daughter, Judy Aronson, Patricia, Hickok. No, Colonel.

Her dad was a colonel. Why was she there? I don't know. I mean, I don't know why she would be in this convoy, but okay, maybe that was the only way they could throw her into the story. But she almost gets killed a couple times,

and the ninja's almost killer. But Joe saves her. So after all of that, and then after Joe kind of, gets back after he was dealing with that warehouse he kind of gets uh uh patricia she likes joe because he saved her life and then she kind of deals with uh well come on we'll uh we'll make this uh this secret date and um and we'll hook up and everything but before the date uh joe was was supposed to stay on the base.

He was not allowed to leave because of everything that was going on with him. But he borrows Curtis's motorcycle. And luckily there was a ramp right by the fence. So he can jump over. Shout out to the stuck guy that made the jump. You can clearly see he wiped out when he landed. Yeah. And that wasn't even the same motorcycle that they used.

used. It looked like that thing just caved in it as well as him falling off, but then cut scene and he's driving away. He ends up hooking up with the patricia and they go eat at some restaurant. I assume it's the place to be restaurant in the Philippines. And she gets that when they're there, she notices that her dad is there. And he's, no, it wasn't her dad. It was one of the sergeants that was on the take with Ortega.

And they were meeting with Hortega. So he was, Joe was looking over there and saw them. And then he was kind of putting two and two together. All right, well, this is the, this is the mole. This is the guy that's helping Ortega get all, get all the military stuff. So again, he tried to tell everyone, nobody wanted to believe him. So it was up to just Curtis, Joe. Joe and Charlie as well as Patricia, but she had to lay in the cuts because she knew what was going on as well.

She believed Joe. Then we're introduced to the black ninja guy or the Black Star. Black Star, that guy, he was supposed to be Japanese in this. And we find out he's the one that's training all of the ninjas. Ortega said, I hired them because they're the best. They can get in and out of anywhere without being seen and everything. I mean, these ninjas, you saw everything they were doing. And they were, like I said earlier, they were hell loud and just not stealthy or anything.

But that was the reason why he had this whole ninja clan with him. And the main guy was running them, the Black Star Ninja. He was in charge of all of them. While at that compound, we're introduced to Shinuki, John Fujioka. And there's some flashback scenes where he was the one that trained Joe in the art of ninjitsu. They do a lot of flashbacks when I guess Shinuki found Joe when he was young. And his parents died. so he took it upon himself to train Joe in the way of the ninja.

I mean, I loved all that. I mean, I loved when they were showing those flashbacks. But when Joe escaped from their compound, because he jumped under one of the trucks when they took it to Ortega's lair. And so, but Chinuki helped him escape. and Joe was looking at him like, I think I know you. But it wasn't coming to him. So he, Shinuki tells him, all right, we'll go this way.

So Joe ends up going back to the Army base and telling everyone what's happening. And we need to go there and get all our weapons back and everything. So this is when they all posse up and they go for the final battle. was it all of them and the military that rushed that place or did Joe and Curtis and them go in there first? It was, I think Joe first, because remember he got all suited up with his ninja gear and he went with his teacher. And I think Kung Fu Curtis, Corporal Joe, or whatever his name was, he can't. later like they finally they finally came to the island they finally came to their senses and they they got geared up and came after yeah that's when he turned

into ram bro he had the headband and everything and the big M60 hanging out of the side of that jeep gun and everyone up yeah that was cool later he has the most ridiculous rocket launcher that has so many buttons and switches on it for I don't know what yeah that was the one that they when Joe was got taken to that warehouse that's what they had in the back

I assume they had cases of them because there was a ton of shit in the back of that truck yeah I'm like what are these buttons and switches for you just got to fire it once and that's it I don't know it was the super duper 1985 high tech

missile launcher but I think this was my my favorite fight when Shinuki and Joe are teamed up. I love the way Shinuki looked. He had the ninja mask and the top part, but the bottom part was red, and it was some kind of traditional Japanese wear.

And man, they were kicking ass because they fought like hell of ninjas, because they were like surrounded. Once the swords come out, that's always my favorite. I mean, I would probably cut my leg off if I was dealing with swords. But I always loved the sword fighting in these martial arts films. It's goofy, but I mean, it's still effective. For a little kid that was watching this in the theater that loved ninjas, I was like, oh, my God, this is awesome because there was so many of them fighting.

So I thought that was cool. Shinuki gets taken out, which that kind of sucked. But he did get to tell him before he died, he told Joe, I was the one that found you and all this. So Joe's memory was starting to come back because he, a lot of,

they had asked him earlier, or when Patricia was talking to me, he goes, I don't remember a lot of stuff when he had amnesia. Yeah. He doesn't remember anything. Real quick,

I like, when he first met his teacher and they're doing the whole montage of him showing, you know, all the weapons and stuff that he shows him like them the little signs you do with your hands

and he was basically telling them that unlocks your, what do you say, ninja magic. Yeah. All right, here's a question. Were you sitting there doing those moves with your hands? Now or when I was a kid?

Then and now. Yes, to both. Because when I was a kid, I had the whole, the ninja outfit and everything. It was, you know, you rock it for Halloween. and then, you know, you wear it a few more times after that

because, you know, watching these movies, you think you're a ninja. Yeah, I mean, I've always been fascinated with it. I never had the ninja suits or anything. I mean, I think the only ninja things I have in the studio here are the turtles. But, well, Storm Shadow. I got some few figures from him from G.I. Joe.

But, I mean, I love this whole standoff at the end with Shinuki and Joe because they were they were just fucking slicing and dicing throwing the stars and I loved every time somebody was shooting at them with the bowling arrows and they were they were catching it and throwing

it back at them the stars another thing I've noticed this in a lot of these ninja movies and it was in this one as well when before Joe goes in the battle when he's got all his stuff in front of them that's a lot of shit to carry and he didn't use much of it.

He threw a star here and there and he had the little claw things and his swords and that was it. I'm like, well, where's everything else you had? I mean, you had so many other weapons. Why didn't you pull everything out and do it? But that's just a nitpig. Yeah.

It was cool, though. That was one thing I always respected when I've seen these movies. Like you said, all the stuff of Ninja Carries. even like samurai movies you know wearing that armor and stuff like that and you know these are like well not in the movies but like

these are actual like people that existed you know samurai and ninjas and stuff like that so carrying all that stuff and trying to be super stealthy and quiet and you know respect yeah because there'd be a lot of

cling cling cling and I had all that stuff and trying to be quiet but yeah that whole ninja battle at the end was cool but then once Shinuki gets taken out Joe is he goes up up against the Black Star Ninja

I wanted that fight to be better it just it went like really fast it didn't I mean because they were fighting in this like fountain because they were in the water

and they were cut and cutting. They were both getting licks in because they were both getting cut, but then finally Joe, he had the upper hand and stabbed him in the stomach with a sword and then he just falls on the water and dies. I was hoping that he would come back

before the movie and jump out of water and do one last thing, but now he he was, for being the like the, the leader of the ninjas, that fight was kind of weak. because it went like super duper fast. I mean, but the moves were good.

I mean, I loved whoever these two guys were, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the actors. Because they were doing some stuff that like, no, hell, no, that ain't them. But after he kills him, Ortega grabs Patricia, and he gets her in a helicopter and he's going to take her away as a hostage. Joe runs still in full ninja gear

grabs onto the helicopter as is trying to fly away Ortega's leaning out aside Keep shooting at him shooting at him While all this is going on in the air Kung Fu Joe Curtis Jackson He goes and grabs one of those

Or that Rocket Launcher missile thing The high tech one with a billion buttons on it and it didn't even know what what that did I don't know who designed that thing and I'm pretty sure it was just made for this film it looks stupid but oh really quick before

all this while Joe was fighting all the ninjas Kung Fu Joe was fighting that fake Bolo looking guy Oh yeah I thought that was Bolo at first but then I was Like, oh, man, he just got, it's probably like his brother or something.

That was a good fight, man. Curtis Jackson, Kung Fu Joe, man. He's got the move. So he was whooping that ass. He was sticking with him. And I can't remember the, I don't even know if they said that other Japanese guys named. But he was pretty big. And they were both getting their licks in.

But Kung Fu Joe ended up killing him. But anyway, back to, Joe that's on the helicopter Ortega's shooting at him He grabs Patricia And all this Kung Fu Joe's on the roof Or on the floor on the ground

Holding that rocket launch like come on just jump jump Get out of the way So Joe grabs Patricia And luckily the helicopter was hovering over The top of the roof So it wasn't that much of a jump But they ended up jumping off landed on the roof You mean landing on that mat on the roof

Yeah You can When they jump and they land You could see the edges Kind of fling up really quick As soon as they're clear Kung Fu Joe lets off that missile And it sounded like a laser gun

And then the missile blows up The model helicopter And then Evil is punished And then we go back to the base And everyone like, yeah man, you're the best. And hey, man, maybe we'll work together again.

And then that's your film. Yeah, didn't her father get killed? Yeah, he was trying to protect her. And he got taken out. I think he got taken out by one of the ninjas. Not like nobody cared. Yeah, they also killed the sergeant guy that was the soldier. He was the reason why Ortega was getting.

and I think that guy was Ronaldo. Ronaldo. Yeah. That was him. MSG Ronaldo. Yeah, so they, they, everyone, they all, all everyone,

all the bad guys got killed and wiped out all those ninjas. And that was it. I kind of went back to the base and Joe ended up leaving with, Patricia. I don't know where they were. go and I assume back to the States. But then they do plan a kiss on each other and then the movie's

over. But for as goofy as it was and everything, I mean, I still loved it. I mean, the little kid in me loving these ninja movies was sitting right there watching it all. I love this film. This movie's badass.

What would you rate it? I'd probably give it an eight. I mean, that's as high as I would go. I mean, at some points get taken off for the goofiness and the, uh, the no blood factor. Because there should have been blood everywhere, every time somebody got cut. But, uh, eight is a good, is a good score. I'm going to go with that. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm almost there with you. I'm going to give it a seven and a half.

Uh, it does lose points for, uh, some of those things. But it, it's still, uh, it has a, it holds a lot of nostalgia for me, because this is just one of those movies that I've just constant. watched and yeah it's on Amazon Prime so everybody everybody if you got Amazon Prime which you should have Amazon Prime if you shop at Amazon it's on there yep

so check it out all right everybody we are on to the next film came out two years later in 1987 and this is American Ninja 2 the confrontation ah

Um, this one was just really, really goofy. Um, well, if you look on the IMDB, it's got it listed as action comedy drama. I don't think comedy was meant to be there, but this one was, was, I thought the fighting, I mean, the fighting was there. It was still cool. But, uh, again, with, with the ninja fighting and everything, um, again, not, not. very much blood. There should be like gallons and gallon laying on the floor every time someone got cut, but it seems like they just get one little scratch in him. There was some blood a little bit. There was that scene where he's Joe's like wiping the blood off the sword with his finger.

I guess, you know, there's your blood. But this one, it's Michael Dube. Kutakov is back as well as Kung Fu Joe Steve James we got some new recruits Jeff Winston he's Captain Wild Bill Woodward we got Gary Conway as Leo the Lion Burke Michelle Boat Bote's she's Alicia Sanburn Larry Poindexter as Sergeant Charlie McDonald oh though did that guy not remind you a Ryan Reynolds yeah he did I had to look him up I thought this was going to be like Ryan Reynolds's older brother

or something or related but he's not. Oh man. And then what was that other dude's the name? Mike Stone is Tojo kin. Then there was this little kid

named Toto that was running out. That's Emilio Phyllis. I think that's his name. On a remote Caribbean Caribbean Island Army Ranger Joe Armstrong Investigates the disappearance of several Marines which leads him to the lion A supercriminal who has kidnapped a local scientist and mass produced an army of Newton Ninja warriors That's where it lost me

When we find out what's happening Well this is a good synopsis So Were they mutants No I thought they were making like test tube babies because there was a shit ton of ninjas in this one. See, that would have made sense if they were like Star Wars, like the Clone Wars. You know, they're making clones of a particular ninja.

But they didn't seem like mutants and they seemed like average guys. Well, before we get into what happened, I mean, This is What's two years later Instead of The Philippines They're in the Caribbean islands somewhere Both

Joe and Curtis Were I think corporals in the first film Now they are Army Rangers And they're both sergeants now They must have really did a lot of work in two in two years. I know nothing in the military, everyone, just

my knowledge from movies, but they were sent to the Caribbean to aid some Marine, the Marines in an investigation and the disappearance of many of its Marines, because the locals

were kidnapping the Marines and taking them to, well, at this point in the story, we don't know where. But we later, we find out that they were taken to that mad scientists. And what was the

lion? That guy, Burke. He was the bad guy. And we find out that they were taking these, kidnapping these soldiers and they were using them to try

to make a super soldier or a super ninja. They only had like, what, like five or six of them? Yeah. They kidnapped. But there was like a whole training camp of ninjas.

And there was, who was the dude, the ninja guy that was training all of them? I don't remember his name. Oh, with the scar. Yeah. I think it was Mike Stone or Tojo Ken. Yeah. Yeah, that was him. Was he Asian or?

No, no, let me click on his name because he sure, I wasn't sure what he was. He is from, he was born in Hawaii, so he could be. As closer to Japan than we are. But this one, it was just goofy. I mean, there was times in this where Joe was just like talking to the, I assume it was either the captain or whatever of the Marines.

Him and Joe or Curtis, Jackson, Kung Fu Joe. They were standing and talking to the guy, what's his name? I think it was Wild Bill. That dude. He was on running the show. They were talking to him and

I was like The The black gentleman You can see him standing And you know that's him But then they had like a stand-in For Joe And I was like

Were these like reshoots And they couldn't get him back Or I mean there was a few scenes like that Where he was just standing there And you could clearly see that it wasn't him And I was like They didn't do good

job on hiding him. Maybe they could have just showed the back of his head and we wouldn't have thought anything. But I was kind of like, this is, this is kind of dumb. I mean, if they're in the Caribbean, you know, he might, Steve, Steve James might have been busy or something. He might have been in his trailer doing something. I don't know. But yeah, so they, these two were there, where they were um they got uh they got they didn't get sent there for to help find the the the the mission soldiers were they i think they were there to investigate oh okay i don't know why because it seemed like the the marines hate army rangers yeah i mean there's there's always been that

i mean again the military knowledge is from movies and yeah there was always that uh the, you were better than you and all that. My friend was in the Air Force, in the Navy, and he said all that about the Marines, how the, they were calling the Marines jarheads, and the Marines were calling the Navy guys, Squids, and there was many, many fights out on the ship

when they were out in seas. So, yeah, I mean, because they bring in, these two military guys, these two guys from the army and all the Marines, like, why the hell do we need them? Because at the beginning of the film, we do get these two, I know there was more of them. I think it was like four of them. These guys, these Marines are on off duty and they end up going to some bar and then they get into a big old bar fight with some of the locals, but then they they get kidnapped. But the only one that saw him was that little kid, Toto.

So he kind of lets the other military guys that he knows on what happened and who did it. So that's when Joe and Curtis start going to play and trying to figure out who stole him and why. I mean, the story in this was ridiculous. maybe just the whole trying to make the super soldier super ninja guys with stolen uh milt marines and torrents in them but when they show the ninja camp in the and the lion burke his uh his little layer uh i don't think any of these ninjas were much less japanese it seems like they got, hey, you want to be a ninja kind of here? Come join us and we'll teach you the ways of the ninja.

And that's exactly what happened. Because, yeah, at least in the first one, there was some Asian guys, some Japanese guys that were ninjas. These were just, like if Brian and I showed up, hey, man, we want to learn. We'll help you. It was just a bunch of white guys in ninja suit. We find out that there's this one guy that was lowering the Marines and the soldiers to,

hey, yeah, come to this bar and party with us, and that's how they were getting abducted. So they were doing that again with Joe and Curtis. They said, yeah, we're going to go on this boat. Come on, we'll go party and all that. But then they were saying that there was problems with the boat, and there's nothing we can do. so um uh joe is kind of like looking at uh the uh the guy that that took him out there and he's kind of like uh

it looks like oh the guy that took him out there his name was Tommy he's kind of looking at him like hey man there's something going on here and uh he was telling uh curtis that yeah man we need to watch him so they're like oh well we can't do nothing about fixing the engine so why don't we all just go uh swimming Joe didn't want to because he was still trying to figure things out. And then

all the ninjas came out and had this little battle with Joe. This ninja fight was just goofy. I... There was no moves in... And there was no moves in this fight that made me, like, get me height. That was kind of like...

I don't know, really. was the first time watch everyone. I never seen the second one. So I was like, oh my God. It didn't like when Kofu Joe shows up to help him? No, that was cool. But when he, when Joe was fighting him by himself, I mean, there was some, there was some cool moves in there. I mean, I did like that, but it was like these, these, I don't know if these were the low-end ninjas. because he just ran through him he really showed up and then Kung Fu Joe

showed up and he was really kicking ass. I like how every move Joe well Curtis, sorry. Every move that he does requires him to flex when he's done. Any chance he got, he took

his shirt off. Well, shit if I had a body like that too, man, I'd be all greased up and everything flexing. It was a goofy fight, but then they do realize that, all right, there's something's going on

and why are these ninjas here? So that's when those two were really trying to figure out why this was, what was going on there. Other than the, that they do, when they find out what the lion is trying to do, with the to make the super soldiers

um I didn't like the guy the uh the one that was playing um the ninja dude um the hell the fuck was his names

yeah um Tojo Ken yeah I didn't I didn't know I didn't buy it from him to be this this ninja master But I did like that scene when the guy that was the bad guy, the lion, when he was trying to get other business partners to come in on what it was going on. Many more investment into the Super Soldier program.

The Tojo guy, they were showing a demonstration on who the ninjas are and what they were doing. one. I did like this scene because, I don't know, they were like 10 ninjas came at him. And he's already in his full ninja gear and he just ran through all of them hella quick. Again, there wasn't much blood.

I mean, there was many guys getting sliced and diced, but yeah, it was a little odd. He's slicing up his own men. Yeah, that's what I was kind of like. I can understand him maybe kicking him face or something like that. All right. You can get up from that. But you have big old, big swollen mouth or a black eye or something. But like, why? Well, it's not like they needed those

tan because there was like a ton in the in the seats watching. It was kind of like a little arena. And there was like black ninjas. Well, black black dress. And then there were some red, red, red clothed ninja guys in there. So. I was like, oh, okay. I mean, I did like this fight when Tojo ran through all those dudes and killed all his men and everything. He didn't really, Joe really didn't get into Ninja Gear into the end. No, because you got to go through the whole where he meets the chick who's looking for her father. and then they had that ridiculous car chase

was that when the when the ninja threw the hook onto the back yeah and respect to that stunt guy because he was he was getting tore up on that road because you could see like the ninja outfits just shredded

and yeah but that scene was kind of ridiculous and I mean what was funny though yeah, when that guy was getting that ninja was getting dragged you could see that, yeah, his clothes were all shredded up and you can see that

it looked like he was bleeding. But when he finally stopped and he jumped up, his ninja suit was like brand new. There was nothing wrong with it. I was like ah. Ninja magic.

I guess. It was funny though, but I did like how they ended up killing him. Well, I loved it when they hit him with the truck and he was holding on to the front and then busted in through the windshield.

The girl that Alicia, she was, her dad, who was her dad? Well, I can't remember. The scientist. Okay. So, why were they trying to kidnap her? I think, I don't know.

I think it was just because she was running around saying because she she showed up at that party saying remember she slapped shit out of the line talking about you're a drug dealer and you kidnapped my father so I think I think they were just trying to shut her up yeah because um Joe ended up rescuing her he goes back to that bar where the the soldiers got stolen from the beginning so ridiculous because he beat the shit out of those guys and then he went back again and beat him up a second time. Yeah, with Joe, there's a scene, I know you know what I'm talking about, where everybody jumps on Kung Fu Joe, and then he just does, you know, the typical, you know, strong guy thing where he just throws everybody off, but it made

this ridiculous bowling sound, like bowling pins getting knocked down. I was like, what is happening right now. And I love Kung Fu Joe. But I said there was times where I think they gave him a little too much to do and say. Yeah, I think he

had more lines than the main guy, the Armstrong, Michael Dutnikov. Because he hardly ever talked again in this one. He still looks upset. Yeah. He looked like mad. Like,

I don't want to do this, but he was, he did it. But, it was goofy. I mean, especially, I mean, I loved every time Kung Fu Joe came into play. Because other than, yeah, his shirt had to come off and he really had to go for it. Because there was a scene where they made them, when they went into that bar, when they told them, when they said, yeah, we'll meet you at the bar and we'll take you there. but then they made the Marines Wild Bill made the here since you're working with us

we need to dress you up like Marines because they had their black dress-ups and I remember one of the guys hey man that's the only one I got so so take care of it but once Joe and Kung Fu Joe showed up at that bar is when they went into into action

and they got like just their whole their uniform was just all shredded up. Oh, they went to that to the party, right? Yeah. And then they were the one that took the captain away.

But when they went to that bar, and they got into that big old fight, when they were coming back out of the bar to get in their car. They come outside. It was like a white Cadillac. They get there and the locals are like stripping the car. One of the doors off and they stole all the hubgabs and they were, I don't know what

they were trying to do with the engine. I think they stole the bumper. They were like, hey! And then almost got stuck off. When they went back to the party to pick up the captain, the car is just making all the crazy sounds and everything and everything's missing. but then they um the i think i think he was like the police captain of the local area yeah they were also looking for alicia and they were saying that um there was many witnesses we saw

joe at that uh the last place they saw alicia when she was when she was kidnapped so they were trying to put the blame on him yeah well they're trying to blame him for that one guy getting killed, uh, Tim. How did he get killed? He, uh,

stupidly saw some ninjas creeping by the window and walked up to the window and they stabbed him and, but right before that he had basically told Joe, the whole deal with the island and everything and why he was doing it. Because Tim was, uh, I think that he said they, they had kidnapped his wife.

Okay. Which we don't know if they did or not. or if she's alive because they just kind of as soon as Tim was dead like that was it for that story. Yeah,

they were just mentioning stuff that dead doesn't really do with the story. But once Alicia, she does tell Joe, hey man,

I know where that island is and we can get, we can get this boat and then we'll go out there. And she may want to go out there because she wanted to find her dad. And he wanted to go because now,

because once he, knew ninjas were in the play he wanted to see uh more on who who these people are all right this part was kind of goofy uh joe and alicia get on into the whole bad guy layer or slash uh ninja compound uh they ended up ruffing up uh two guys uh patrolers that were patrolling the defense line um they ended up uh ambushing it well joe ended up beating the shit out of both of them. He killed one of them because I know he snapped his neck and I think he just knocked out the other. But they stole their ninja gear.

So Alicia and Joe put it on and just strolled right in. Yeah. We get the dude that's running the whole thing, the lion, him and Tojo Kin, the leader of the ninjas and other scientists and, I think there was some kind of congressman or something in there. And the little corrupt cop guy with two was there. Yeah, because the cop, they were looking for Joe. Because they were saying that he had some information, and he was there when we just disappeared.

So they're going in there, and the, uh, the line, the Burt guy is like, come on. I'm, I'll show you what we're doing. And this is when we, we finally see the, uh, those little chamber things with, uh, people in them and i think there was i think there was six of them and those were the six those were the the six kidnapped marines and then we're going to turn them into the super super soldier super ninja guys uh it kind of reminded me of austin powers and that little frozen thing he was in in the first film because yeah they all looked blue like they were like they were

like they were frozen but um so while they're being uh toured around uh the the the layer in this in the laboratories, Joe and Alicia are dressed as ninjas, and they're right there with them with that whole group. Not one of them turned around like, why are you here? Yeah, because they're not standing at a post or anything. They're just like they're a part of the group. Like he's giving, like he's telling them what's going on, and they're just strolling along with them.

And you can clearly tell that's a woman in a ninja outfit. But I guess nobody was noticing. I guess they were too into what the lion was saying. It's like nobody noticed them. I was. And then they were standing like shoulder to shoulder with everybody in that group. And not one of them go like or even the Burke, the lion. He didn't look over at them and go, what the fuck are you guys doing here?

I was like, okay, whatever. So they figure out what's, happening and what they're going to do. Back of this is all on an island, a private island. Back in wherever the Marine base was, Curtis, Kung Fu Joe and Wild Bill and all of them, they were like, they were trying to go, okay, man, we know where they are and we know where to go, but they were waiting for orders from, I assume, from Washington or wherever. to give them the okay to go bum rush that island and stop everything that's going on

but then they were kind of like well fuck man we're gonna be here all night if we wait for them so fuck up let's let's go so they geared up with every weapon they can and then they jumped on boats and they went to that island but in the uh in the in the in the in the in the layer of uh of the lions his layer uh uh uh jill and Alicia they were trying to escape but then they ended up being putting that little arena then the lights kind of kick come on and this is when uh a leash or uh Joe has to fight like a shit ton of ninjas as well as the the main guy uh tojo kin um again Joe is swinging his sword and kicking ass no blood you can clearly see that he's not hit

hitting anyone or slicing anybody with the sword. But again, I mean, this is late 80s and it's goofy and all these ninja movies are. Yeah, and I had to double check. This movie was rated R. I guess many for the violence because there was no nudity. And there was more blood in this one than there wasn't the last one. Because I did like that scene when Joe was about to fight Tojo Ken. had a sword and there was blood on it and he wiped it off of his fingers.

I thought that was pretty cool. This fight, when Joe was fighting tojo Ken, at least went on for a while. So I like that. And I like the final battle in the first film where it was like a couple kicks and then get stabbed and then that's it. but um when uh kung fu joe shows up with the cavalry i mean they all come running in with uh he's in like all black he's got the black headband the black vest and uh of course he's got to take his shirt off to kick ass and everything but he comes running in again with another

big machine gun hanging out of the side of jeep shooting up everybody and all that man uh i can see all the comedy and that. I think the comedy was in this film, but a lot of it wasn't meant to be funny. So, I mean, it is what it was. I mean, the Marines show up, but they're gunning up all the bad guys as well as some of the ninjas. And Joe was still, he's still fighting with Tojo Ken. And then he ended up, um, did he stab him? Oh, no. it was like a like a Japanese standoff Yeah Because they both came running at each other and passed

But then once Joe turns around looks And then he sees Tojo Ken And he kind of keels over a little bit Because he got sliced In the gut And then I think that's when Joe came at him And they fought for another minute or so

But then he ended up stab at him With did he Did he stab him with two swords? I believe so. Yeah, so he ended up killing him. And while all that's going on, everyone else is outside, gunning up everyone they can. Who?

Oh, the scientist, Alicia's dad. He ran down. They were about to escape, but then he was like, no, I got to go do something. He runs back to the laboratory where those super ninjas that they were making and the Marines went there to go get them but he ended up putting some kind of charges

like explosive charges on their little tanks that they were in and then that's when the lion came in what are you doing what are you doing and then he blows it and then did he get killed after that? Yep, yep second stray movie where the female lead's father gets killed and nobody cares at the end of the movie.

Yeah. He's like, once the movie's over, like, yeah, party, and then the movie's over. But he ended up going down there

and destroying all the stuff that they made him do. Okay, so the main scientist is dead. Did he blow up with the, the Burke, the lion? Okay, so he blew up with the scientists when they blew up all those tanks. All right.

Okay, so all the ninjas are pretty much, well, I'm sure a lot of them probably got away, but majority of them are all killed because the Marines came in there and gunned up and fought everyone. Joe ends up killing Tojo Kin after their big, I thought this fight was badass. After that long fight, they ended up, he ended up dying. and then that was pretty much it right they just go back

to the to the marine base yeah and then the wild bill is like I can pull some strings and make you Marines or something

but they're like no we we got things to do because they both got ladies now and like I said she did

her father blew up on an island and now she's about to go on vacation with Joe what's his name?

Kung Fu Joe, man. He was rough and tough, man. Throughout the movie, he was trying to get on, who was that chick that he was talking to? Just somebody he met at that dinner party thing. Yeah, I guess he fell in love with her. I mean, I don't know why these guys fall in love with chicks so fast in any movie. But he had, yeah, at the end of the film, he's finally.

finally hooking up with her and uh and joe ends up hooking up with uh alicia um the one little kid the toto kid or toto or no toto he the one that knew everything i mean that little kid was a hustler too because when he was helping them out uh when he was helping out joe and the rest of the guys every time he would help them lead them into the way they needed to go he always went all right that'll be three bucks and Joe I mean luckily he had hell of money on him

because he kept paying that kid every time at the end because one of the times that Joe didn't pay him goes hey man I'll owe you so right before the film is over

where total's like hey man you said you were gonna pay me my $5 and he ends up giving he gave him what a pocket knife yeah a Swiss Army knife um okay i guess those are worth more than five dollars

they seemed like he was excited yeah man he had a pocket knife and he was all good and then that was the end of the movie they go getting on the plane and then that's it this one what do you rate it i had to give it six

it's a it's a step down um i it's weird because i i I loved everything about Kung Fu Joe, Curtis, not 50 Cent Jackson, but I think they might have gave him a little too much. And I just wasn't buying the whole storyline about these super ninutin mutant ninjas because there was nothing mutant about them. That was just a bunch of guys and some ninja outfits trying to be ninjas. Yeah, I didn't like any of that. I mean, maybe if they were to put these super ninjas into action,

you know, it would probably have been better. Because from what they were saying, once they were fully operational, they were like 10 times as strong as a regular man. And they can't be killed because I guess they were going to put in, what's that stuff they put in Wolverine? any adamam amy yeah yeah someone's screaming at i mean because they were saying whatever whatever they're going to do to them other than they're going to be super strong

um their skin is going to be like in and you you could shoot them but they'll still be alive because i was saying they were they were going to put some kind of metal or something in them see that would have been cool they would have at least one of them in the movie yeah i mean you're hyping up something like that yeah yeah they should at least had a couple all ready to go but they didn't and this the main sign just blew them all up so but um there was a million more ninjas in this one which was I was cool with but these ninjas were garbage I mean I did I loved them more in the first film but these are just ninjas for hire like hey man

you want to be a ninja come on all right cool here put this on and here's your sword and i don't know i wasn't buying that whole ninja compound and everything but i was kind of like all right whatever i mean a lot a lot of the action scenes was cool uh i loved all that um when joe was for taking on the ninjas by himself i mean i did like a lot of those moves uh that he was doing as well as when he was fighting a lot of them with swords i loved how he was uh did ducking and dodging the swords and then when he was in in action swinging those there was one scene where one of the the bad ninjas swung at him he caught the sword with his hands pulled it out of his hand and threw it behind him and got it stabbed another

Ninja that was I probably say about 10 feet away I had to rewind it that that scene happened so fast and you could clearly see that when he threw the sword that that actor ninja caught it

and then like brought it to his chest like he got stabbed and then he fell over I was like oh but again this one was really a lot goofy there was way more comedy comfort like I mean I loved him I thought he was cool it was my favorite character in it but every time he came on the screen he

had to like own own the scene he owned every scene that he was in so I mean I liked all that um I don't know I know he's in the second one or the third one so but I don't I don't know what that one is about but um again this movie I mean it's goofy and That's funny. But if you've seen the first one and you want to see the further adventures of Joe Armstrong, definitely check these out. I will rate it. Would you say six?

Yeah. All right. I'll go down one. I'll give it a five. It's still entertaining, but I just didn't like it as much as the first one. All right. What do you have coming up? We were still, the Zizu was in town, but we just didn't get a chance to record anything.

So I'm not sure if we're going to record an episode this weekend. Hopefully we will. But another just regular E-Sciety episode. We're still planning on doing our Mandalorian episodes, but. his work schedule is never the same. It just changes week to week. So kind of hard to say when we're going to actually sit down and then record an episode. I don't know.

When it comes out, it comes out everybody. He didn't listen to all 31 of, well, 34, actually, of the East Society's 31 Days of Horror. You got to listen to all that before we come out with something. again i got to hype up the the flesh frankenstein episode that was the best one we did but all listen to all of them you guys didn't but uh yeah that's about as much as uh we got coming up um uh i got mac the macness podcast episode 1 25 is coming uh i got a friend of the show coming on and i was going to be talking about uh his new project um well you guys know mike if you listen to the show he's

got a new project coming up and he's going to go into more detail on what that is. So that's coming up as well. And I think that's it. What do you guys got coming? We have our first entry into our paranormal activity retrospective. And that's going to be going on for the next few weeks. Thank you and me. Got a little side project.

We're going to record. I'm trying to figure out what that's going to be called. But we're going to do the, what is it, the Friday the 13th fan film, Borges, which is actually a full-length movie, which is crazy. And for the action returns, one of these movies I've seen quite a bit, the other one I've never seen in my life.

And that is Speed and Speed 2 Cruise Control. Cruise control I've seen it once I don't know if they were on a boat and it was Michael from Lost Boys That's all I know about it Yeah Sadja Bullock yeah she's back so

Can't go wrong with her but Is that streaming anywhere Second one? I have the first one I don't know if the second one's streaming I think I have both of them on one of those double packs. Let me see. Let me check out. Amazon is always the number one place to go.

Were we not doing some other movies you mentioned? Which ones? Constantine and... No, we're going to save that for next year. Okay. Well, it's not streaming. on Amazon But

I'm sure we can find it Yeah Everything is out there So Yeah But Oh um Last episode

We didn't give our scores On uh Vampires and Ghost of Mars I'll do seven Straight across for both of them The vampires I'll go seven with that one

And I'll go nine with Ghost of Mars. I mean, we, I had my little small little not so cool things in that, but I mean, other than that, it was fucking badass. So, yeah.

But, all right, everyone. We're going to bring this one to an end. Again, thank you so much for listening. I love doing these shows. This makes me watch all these action movies. I haven't seen. forever. So definitely cool. Thank you so much for letting me be a part of the show.

And all right, everyone. Until next week, thank you for listening and be safe out there and always party on. Yeah. Same thing for me. Everybody, until the next time, be safe.