The Horror Returns - THe Action Returns - Ep. #19: Speed (1994) & Speed 2: Cruise Control (1997)

Episode Date: November 20, 2020

This episode Brian and Nez fasten their seatbelt for a fuel injected 50 plus miles per hour bus ride in the 1994 classic SPEED. Then the guys set sail on a Caribbean cruise vacation in the 1997 action... film SPEED 2: Cruise Control.    Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   The Action Returns Twitter and Instagram coming soon. 

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Are you insured? Yeah. I need to take your phone. Take the phone. Welcome back to another episode of the action returns, episode 19. Of course, I'm your host, Brian. And with me, as always, my brother Nez, what's up, man? I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:01:32 What's going on up there? Anything good? Nope. Same old, same old. Nothing new to report. Possibly might be going on. lockdown again. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 At this point, it doesn't really matter to me. I still keep to myself and just go to work and come home and that's it. Yeah, that's pretty much what I do. Yeah, it's getting ready to happen here. All the COVID cases are starting to climb again. Here in the little town that I live in
Starting point is 00:02:10 is starting to go up. I guess it was. There's another outbreak out of the prison And they're Trying to like well how did this happen? I mean they're not letting anybody come visit So it can't be outsiders The only ones I don't know why they can't think of it
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's the guards or the people Just the other workers that work there Because the prisoners aren't getting out So Yeah Those are the only ones that are bringing it in And then it's getting out of control So
Starting point is 00:02:43 There's two prisons out of control so there's two prisons out here. Well, three kind of. There's a federal one another 30 miles away, but the maximum prison, prison, it's, I think everyone's all right there. There's another, like a high desert,
Starting point is 00:02:58 like right next to it. That one, they said cases are starting to climb again. I mean, it got down to zero. Everybody was good. So somebody brought it back in there. So I don't know what's what's going to happen. So hopefully, they can get it under control
Starting point is 00:03:16 at least there and then here in this town. So what I understand only one person is hospitalized, which is good. So, I don't know, we'll see, because there's a lot of doubters here in this town thinking it's fake and
Starting point is 00:03:32 always. I'm just like, really? I don't know. It's just America. Yeah, pretty much. Before we jump into these movies, I think you and me watch the same movie over the past couple of days. Did you watch a movie called Rogue? Yes, I did.
Starting point is 00:03:53 What did you think? It was okay. I mean, I'm not one for Megan Fox. Yeah, she's a beautiful young woman, but her movies haven't really grabbed me that much. I mean, even that Jennifer's body, I only saw it because she was in it. And then, and that other girl, Amanda, what's her nuts? But this one, it was, I remember seeing the trailer going, what? She's going to try to be an action star?
Starting point is 00:04:25 I was like, okay. And then I'm like, okay, here's this hot chick running around with machine guns and full face, full face makeup. Oh, my God. All right. I didn't really dig into what it was going to be about. So I just like, all right, let me just watch this. I actually liked it It was better than I thought it was gonna be
Starting point is 00:04:46 My only problem was was the CGI guy was just Yeah It took me out every time These certain things came into play And I was like It just I don't know man I think they could have aced that out And just kept it as a
Starting point is 00:05:05 A regular rescue mission And just a lot of shooting I think Who probably would have done better Yeah, I agree. The CGI was God awful. I'm just like, man, it's 2020. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:05:20 You can do better than that. And I thought she was fine in it, but it was kind of up and down with me with her. Of course, it never looked like her face got messed up at any point in the movie. And then there was a scene where I was like, okay, I'm into it. She, she like sliced someone,
Starting point is 00:05:40 some dude up and then she went over to another guy and shanked him like like five times in the neck. I'm like, okay. But then the next scene, she's like just kind of lazily running with her gun. Like, like shit's just not going on around her. And I'm just, okay, now you look like you're not even trying. But, um, I, yeah, I actually, I actually kind of dug it too. Um, I thought I like, I liked some of the supporting cast. I thought the one dude was kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:06:08 The, I guess he was like her. the next ranking officer with her. I thought he was kind of funny at times. I just thought he was trying to get it. He probably was. I mean, I liked everything that was going on. And I mean, their mission and what they had to do being in, was it South Africa where they were?
Starting point is 00:06:32 I believe so. I mean, all that was cool. The scenery and all that was good. um did you read that thing at the end when they were talking about uh I guess
Starting point is 00:06:46 whoever the director was the reason why he did it yeah I was kind of like okay I mean I I totally agree with what he was saying um but
Starting point is 00:06:59 I don't it was to CGI that was my only flaw with it yeah I thought Everyone was in. It was good. I mean, the violence was good when they were shooting up and all that.
Starting point is 00:07:12 But I don't know. It was just every time they showed the CGI, man, it was just like, oh, it reminded me of like Shark Nato. C. Yeah. Yeah. And I love Shark Nato. I loved all of those movies. They're stupid and goofy.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's probably why I love them. But I didn't love these things. I was kind of like, oh, my God. I mean, but then again. I mean, I'll definitely watch it again. If it's cheap somewhere, I'd probably pick it up. But, yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was. Yeah, everybody, check out Rogue.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It's out there. It's been out there for a minute. Yeah, I just finally got to it. All right. Let's jump into our first movie, and that is 1994's speech. Speed. Pop Quiz, hot shot! There's a bomb on a bus.
Starting point is 00:08:11 If it drops below 50, it blows up. What do you do? The game began with the ultimate test. Where's Jeff? Where do you think? Now. Stay on or get off. Get off.
Starting point is 00:08:23 This is much better. He's the only solution. Pop Quiz. You have a hair trigger aimed at your head. What do you do? Keanu leaves. What do you do? Speed.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Uh... This, of course, stars Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock. Synopsis goes, a young police officer must prevent a bomb exploding aboard a city bus by keeping its speed above 50 miles per hour. That was IMDB. Let's go to Google. Los Angeles police officer Jack, played by Keanu Reeves' anger's retired bomb squad member. Howard Payne. This kind of just gives away the damn movie
Starting point is 00:09:12 by foiling his attempt at taking hostages. In revenge, Payne arms a bus with a bomb that will explode if it drops below 50 miles per hour with the help of Spunky Passenger Annie played by Sandra Bullock.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Jack and his partner, Harry, played by Jeff Daniels, try to save the people on the bus before the bomb goes. while also trying to figure out how pain is monitoring them. Damn, I just gave away the whole movie. We should have seen it by now. It's like a, yeah, what, 94, over 20 years.
Starting point is 00:09:51 This was directed by John DeBont, produced by Mark Gordon, written by Graham Yost. Of course, I said Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock. This also stars Dennis Hopper. Joe Morton and Jeff Daniels and there is a ton of character actors that pop up in this movie and you're just kind of like, oh, it's that guy from the one movie.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's the, what's his name? Poppy from Popeye from Blood and Blood and Blood and Yeah. And, um, um, um,
Starting point is 00:10:27 was a Baby Joker from American Me? Yeah, yeah. And, um, Cameron from Ferris Billers Day Off, he was in there. Fuck, man, that was all kinds of... High Top from Colors. The, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:10:48 Glenn Plummer. Oh, yeah. The guy in the Jaguar. We'll get to him in the sequel. Yeah, this was released June 10th, 1994. Had a budget of 30 months. million box office 350.4 million so it was a hit definitely kick us off mez i thought this movie was awesome uh a friend of mine because like come on man i hear this movie is good i said what is it
Starting point is 00:11:22 what speed who's in it keanuoreves i was like all right that wasn't thinking much i was like okay i didn't even see any trailers or anything but um standing in line looking at the poster and oh okay that movie. I remember seeing maybe a TV spot. So I wasn't expecting much. But fuck, man, this movie was awesome. I was like on the edge of my
Starting point is 00:11:46 sea. I think I enjoyed it more than my buddy, man. But I was like, well, I was like all aboard and sitting right there on the bus with everyone else. I thought this movie was awesome. It's it still holds up. I mean, it's goofy at
Starting point is 00:12:02 times, especially when when they jumped the bus. But that was still like my favorite part, though, movie. But overall, I mean, the movie's awesome.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Dennis Hopper, rest in peace. He's badass. He's always good when he's a bad guy. This is a young Sandra Bullock. She was hot in the beginning. Now she's, to me,
Starting point is 00:12:23 is like hotter now. Keanu Reeves, he's the same and everything. A little bit of Ted. And then this is all before, John, for John Wick. So,
Starting point is 00:12:36 I mean, he was what he was. I mean, they were, they were making him that action star, that point break and all that before this. So,
Starting point is 00:12:44 but overall, man, this movie was awesome. I mean, I loved every minute of it. I mean, without some little minor grabs here and there,
Starting point is 00:12:51 but, I mean, overall, I think this was just a superb film. Totally agree with you. This is, I think this is an action classic. It's action pack from,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I mean, the movie starts out. It just gets right into it like five minutes into the movie. I enjoyed Dennis Hopper as the villain. You know, I felt like he was just having it up. He looked like he was having fun in the role. It was good to see Jeff Daniels because, you know, a lot of people, you know, say they know know Jeff Daniels from Dumb and Dumber. And it was good to see him as this LAPD SWAT officer, bomb expert. And he kind of, he kind of brought the humor every now and then. And I, and I enjoyed that. Um, Keanu, I mean, he had point break before this, but I think this really kicked it off with his, with his, uh, being an action star. And, uh, Sandra Bullock, not a fan of her movies, but if anybody was to ask me, this, this would probably be the one I would bring up as, as, uh, one of my favorites of hers.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. Um, what did she have, uh, before all this? this. I mean, other, I think Demolition Man was before this one. And she's only been in 57 films. Yeah, Demolition Man was. That's it. The big one. There was wrestling Ernest Hemingway and
Starting point is 00:14:23 Fire on the Amazon. I never even heard of those. Demolition Man was probably her big thing at the time. I mean, I've seen her in other films, like The Vanishing and Love Potion Number 9, but she was just like pretty much
Starting point is 00:14:41 a side character, but yeah, I think that was a, I mean, I like Keanu Reeves. I mean, no matter what he's in, even his little lovey-dovey love story things, but I was like, all right, cool. I mean, I'll go see this. I mean, for him and then there was a plus with
Starting point is 00:14:57 Sandra Bullock. And I thought she did a good job. I mean, we'll get to her in the second film, but she basically just her whole scenes, where all her big scenes was on that bus that whole time.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Everybody on there, I mean, at first I was thinking, how are they going to make this work with them being on a bus the whole time and they made it work? I thought once the bus got in the play and they realized that there was a bomb on there. I mean, I just thought it was just intense from there.
Starting point is 00:15:33 trying to figure out how we're going to stop this bus how we how are we not going to let it blow up and then you got um uh what was his name of dumb and dumber harry yeah yeah he got harry over there what was his name in it it was he was hairy in this too well anyway he got harry over here trying to figure out uh where uh dennis hopper is uh dennis hopper was Howard Payne. I mean, so I mean, I like that. Like you said, man, it jumped right into it. It didn't stop until it, till it ended. I mean, because it just kept going and going and going. Yeah, slowed down a little bit when you kind of get introduced to Annie Sandra Bullock's character. And then it just, as soon as they get on the bus, boom, that's where it just took off.
Starting point is 00:16:26 So, I mean, this, this movie was awesome. Um, um, uh, Would you have any complaints with this one? Or little nitpicks? You know what? I honestly, I don't think so. I mean, the jump in the freeway part, I kind of just go with it. I'm not going to be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:53 that can't happen in real life. You know, it's not real life. It's a movie. So I kind of forgive it for that. I thought everybody was fine in it. I thought the action was good. And, yeah, I don't think I don't think I have any grapes with it. I can't think of any either other than a little nitpicky with the bus jumping.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And because once the bomb got triggered, what was it? Once they hit over 50, that's when it arms the bomb that Dennis Hopper had under it. And there would have been many times that bus slowed down. because when they were hitting traffic and that time it was just Sides are basically hitting all those big yellow containers with the water and I was like, man, that busts were away
Starting point is 00:17:41 all the way down to the past 50 below blew up. But, I mean, other than that, but it's fine. It's a movie. I mean, you just got to kind of just let your mind go and just be
Starting point is 00:17:57 in with these characters in the film. And like, because in movies, anything can happen. But that's, that's, that's, that's probably my only little, little gripe about the film. I mean, but other than that, man, there was, uh, nothing else really, because the excitement, um, Dennis Hopper's character, Howard Payne, uh, he was, uh, he was in the bomb squad, wasn't he? Yeah, he retired. Yeah, because, well, he was kind of forced into retirement because it looked like he blew his thumb off, uh, during the job. But then, I, I can't,
Starting point is 00:18:31 remember how many years he said he worked but they basically just sit here give you a little your little pension and a watch and be on your way so i think he was just more mad at that because that was the reasons why he was uh doing what he was doing because in the beginning of the film uh the lapd swap bomb disposal team gets called to this uh uh building and um dennis hopper he he's telling it goes yeah I got a bomb on an elevator. So that's when they kind of spring into action. They go there and try to figure out, first off, who is this guy that's doing it and why?
Starting point is 00:19:14 But, oh, they went, they climbed down the elevator shaft, right? Yeah, from above to check it out. And it's when Keanu was talking about, he's got a gut feeling that he's going to blow the bomb anyways, even if he gets his money. Yeah. Because they had, I think it was like a $3 million ransom to just extra money out of them
Starting point is 00:19:44 because they had people in the elevator. He was going to blow the brakes and let the elevator fall and kill everyone. So why the rest of the SWAT team is trying to deal with getting the people out of the elevator, I mean, you got Harry, Harry. You got Harry and you got Jack Trying to find Dennis Hopper
Starting point is 00:20:06 And they find out that he's in another elevator So They kind of jumped down on the top And he realizes that they're up there So he lets off some shots with a shotgun Harry ends up falling through there And Jack is up on top I'm trying to do this from memory
Starting point is 00:20:25 I didn't actually watch this one How did How did they get out of the elevator? The people? No. After Harry fell in and Jack was still up on top of the elevator. Oh, he dove down in. And what was his name?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Dennis Hopper Howard Payne pulled the, he had the shotgun on him and told him to drop his guns. And then they stepped out of the elevator. and he had Harry It's weird calling him Harry because he had him a hostage and Keanu I guess chose to shoot the hostage
Starting point is 00:21:11 to take him out of the equation Yeah they were talking about that before Yeah they were talking about that earlier All right I remember now Yeah and he shot him And then Howard went It went through that one door and shut it And as soon as Keanu got there
Starting point is 00:21:27 it blew and it just shot Keanu all the way back and he hit the wall or hit a door or something and that's how Howard got away. See that would have that explosion that quick because it seems like
Starting point is 00:21:43 as soon as Howard went into the door, as soon as the door shut it blew up. So I don't know how maybe he jumped behind something or I don't know. Another nitpick everyone. So, but I did like that that stunt because when that bomb went off
Starting point is 00:21:59 you just see Keanu's character Jack just so flying like I don't know how far back he flew and so I thought that was pretty cool it was a good way to start this film off right with a bang and everything because they they figured that Dennis Hopper's characters
Starting point is 00:22:16 dead they don't know who he is yet they just figured that he was dead because the whole place blew up so they're like all right whatever next morning is when Jack's No, we're introduced to Annie. She's trying to catch the bus.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Trying to catch the bus. And she jumps on and she knows the bus driver and everything. So she's just, we see who's all on the bus because the camera goes around. You start seeing all these characters. Yeah, again, a lot of these guys of people you've seen before. So Jack, he went into get coffee, right? Into someplace? Yeah, coffee in the,
Starting point is 00:22:56 Muffin and the guy behind the counter was one of Jack Crow's vampire killers. Which one was he? He was one of those guys. I don't know his name. So
Starting point is 00:23:11 Jack, when he's in there, he's talking to another bus driver, some guy that he knows and he gets on his bus and starts driving away, Jack walks out, and then the bus blows up. So he kind of runs over there, then you can do because the bus is engulfed in flames.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Real explosion. Yeah, this was kind of funny, though. Another little nitpick. Jack was standing there looking at the bus like, oh, fuck, man. There ain't nothing I can do. And then pay phone rings. And I don't know. He, I guess he heard it.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Even if I was Jack, if I heard a payphone ring, I wouldn't walk over to it. I would still can just let it ring. I'm worried about this whole bus that I just saw everyone dying. So he walks over the phone and answers it and then it's Dennis Hopper
Starting point is 00:24:04 telling him that yeah, we're going to play a game kind of a cat and mouse type of deal and they go there's a bomb on a bus and he explains it to him. Once the bus goes over 50 it arms the bomb
Starting point is 00:24:19 and if it goes below 50 it's going to blow up. So he's like oh fuck. he kind of realizes that. But then he gives him another ransom because in the beginning, the ransom was $3 million. He only went up a 0.7. So he wanted a ransom for $3.7 million or he was going to detonate and kill everybody on the bus.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That sounds fair. So he told him a bus, right? He did the thing him and Harry do the pop quiz. What do you do? You know, and he kind of figured it out. And then he, when he figured it out, he told him where the bus was going to be at what time. All right, because the bus got on the freeway when he was chasing it, right? Yeah, that's when we're introduced to OG Bobby Johnson.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And he, Keanu confiscates his car. That's why he jumps in his car and is trying to get him to get up close to the side of the bus. And he's He knows, Jack is trying to get the bus driver's attention. And everyone on the bus is like, no, just keep going.
Starting point is 00:25:37 He's crazy. But the bus driver finally opens the door. And he tells him not to, not to slow down, keep the bus over 50. I like this stunt. I thought it was cool because then he pulls up next to the bus.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I don't know why. He just couldn't pull up closer, but it's a movie. High Top. what's his name? Glenn Plummer. They're Maurice. He's high top, everybody, if you've seen colors.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Anyway, so he pulls up next to him and they're kind of like, what are you going to do? He goes, I'm going to jump over on the bus. And I'm like, what? So the high tops in the passenger seat and Jack's driving. So he was here, take the wheel. And it's like, what? So he's trying to drive from the passenger seat.
Starting point is 00:26:22 And then Jack gets close up enough to the bus and then jumps in. I always like this stunt. I mean, it was something real simple, well, not simple, but it did what didn't look like much. But when he jumps, he doesn't quite get his whole body onto the bus because it's like his waist and his legs, like scrape the cement and they kind of pulls himself into the bus. Once he got on the bus and he announced that he was a cop, I don't remember. Did he tell him that there was a bomb on the bus? No, not at first. He just went as soon as he said he was LAPD, the one dude in the back started pulled a gun and started flipping out, telling everybody, tell him the bus driver to stop the bus.
Starting point is 00:27:08 And I don't think he revealed, I don't think he revealed that the bomb was on the bus until after the bus driver got shot. Oh, yeah, because when he jumped on the bus, that was, what's his name, a little puppet from American Me? he was the one that pulled the gun out I was like no stop the bus don't look at me little puppet yeah don't look at me stop the bus
Starting point is 00:27:33 he wouldn't stop it he was like no how did you get the gun out get a gun away from him the one dude Popeye jumped in which Keanu kept calling him Gigantor
Starting point is 00:27:48 when and then he eventually was like my name's Ortiz but he kept calling him gigantor like after that. If you guys haven't seen blood and blood out, it's on YouTube or unless you can find it somewhere else. Oh, Papa, so rapy.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yeah, it was. Give me some chun chun. Oh my God. I remember a buddy of my, I didn't see it until it was on VHS. He brought it over. dude you got to watch this movie it's hell again i was like what is it blood in blood out bound by honor i was like okay he just said it was a prison movie man that movie's hell of good i could watch that movie over and over from beginning to end it's it's a long one yeah i think i first i think i first watched it um one of my old boys had um he was locked up and he's seen one of uh danie trejo's
Starting point is 00:28:49 of videos kind of like, you know, talking about prison. And then when he heard that he was in, uh, blood in blood out, like, he was like, we got to watch it. We got to go. We got to watch it. This guy, you know, it's got real deal people in it. And then we watched it. And yeah, we, we watched it.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It was on BHS at the time we had it. We, we watched that movie over and over. I know, man. I wish they would put it on Blu-ray. I mean, yeah. The DVD that I have, I know we're supposed to talk about speech. but it does it's not formatted to the TV it was one of those DVDs so it's like a little square
Starting point is 00:29:27 in the in the center of the screen I'm like I'll week but I'll still watch it but anyway so yeah after they take down a little puppet and he he handcuffs him to the post right yeah yeah so I mean there's nothing he can do about it now he's like that's a small stuff he's got to try to figure out how to get this bus from dropping under to keep it going and keep it from falling under 50 and trying to get everyone off.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So all while this is happening, Dennis Hopper's character, he's watching the news because they already have copters and everybody. No, when did the news come into play? It isn't until they get off the freeway and I believe Annie is driving by by that time.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Okay, that's right. Oh, because really quick, before they took the guy out with the gun, that was when Ortiza Popeye tackled him, and he let off around. He ended up shooting the bus driver. Yeah. And like in the back of his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So he's like, ah, he then, those were big slugs in that gun. So he was getting ready to fall over. And then Annie, that's when they moved him and Annie jumped in the seat. and then she just punched it. So they're hauling ass. Well, they weren't on the freeway yet.
Starting point is 00:30:55 No, yeah, they were on the freeway because that's when Jack jumped on the bus. Earlier, before they got on the freeway, he was running after chasing him and everything. They got into a little more excitement there. But once they get on the freeway is when all that commotion happened. So Annie, Sandra Bullock's character is sitting in the bus.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And, I mean, they're still trying to, to figure out, well, what the fuck are we going to do? And we got this guy that's this bleed now because he's got a gun wound. So they're just still trying to figure out. All this, Jack is talking back and forth to Harry and to, what does his name? The guy that created Skynet. Joe Martin. Mac.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. Captain McMahon, McCone. I don't know. Mack is what they were calling him. what the hell was his name? Miles Dyson. Yeah, that was his name. It was all his fault.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah. I wasn't going to be able to sleep. I couldn't remember his name of the movie. Anyway, so they're trying to figure it out still. Because they roll up next to the bus with that flatbed rig, right? When they were going to try to get everyone off? When they got the bus driver off, yeah. Because he made a deal with Dennis Hopper.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You tell him, you got to give me one. This is going to be good for you or getting your money. You know, we can't have no one die. And then he allows him to just take the bus driver off. So, all right, that was when they got him off. They got the bus driver off. What was his name? Sam.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They got Sam off the bus. And while they were holding him off, there was an older lady. I think her name was Helen. Yes. She was like, like, should I go? Should I go? and then Mac was like, come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And then right when she was about to take a step off, the bus blew. Like just that was an explosion. And then you just see her fall under the bus. And this is when we realized that the news and everybody was, the helicopters, news copters were in the air already because they were filming it and they caught when the bus exploded because they were like shit there was an explosion
Starting point is 00:33:19 and then they were like fuck and then they realized once Jack was all right because he was trying to grab that Helen but then when that bomb blew up because then Jack was talking to Annie
Starting point is 00:33:34 and she goes I thought we were dead once that thing blew up and that's when Jack was kind of like thinking man he can see us and then And she was like, well, what do you mean? He goes, how did you know to, just for what he was thinking?
Starting point is 00:33:51 How did you know to blow that up unless he saw it? Oh, and Dennis Hopper dropped that line because he called her the Wildcat. And Keanu had noticed her sweatshirts at University of Arizona. That's right. And that's when he was like, he could see us because he was like whispering to her. And now that's when he started looking around. Then he found the camera was behind one of the mirrors at the front of the bus. And then we go to Dennis Hopper and his little command center.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And you see he's watching the news because they're getting the outside shots from the helicopter shots. And then you can see the inside of the bus. Because then Keanu reviews, he can see the whole bus. So they're still trying to figure out what to do. Well, excuse me. He, this is when they, he worked at a deal for Keanu to get off, right? Yeah. Was that when they were on the freeway or is that when they got off the freeway and went to the airport is when he got off?
Starting point is 00:35:01 I think the airport, because we still have to do the amazing jump over the gap and the freeway. Oh, that's right, because they were still going and they were just trying to, well, we, we're all right. we hit traffic, but then they were like, that's when they started looking at the maps and saying, hey, this part of this section of the freeway isn't there yet. And they're like, fuck, what are you going to do? I mean, I don't know how fast these buses go, but they were like, man, we're just going have to jump it. So, Annie just floored it. And he just told everyone to hang on. that when you see the bridge one side looks like it's kind of up high
Starting point is 00:35:48 but not by that much but I don't know how wide that gap was but in reality if that was to happen luckily there was a ramp on the side where it jumped but that that bus was just like
Starting point is 00:36:07 what it did a nose dive straight down and that would have been the end of the movie. It looked like it like had hydraulics too in the front the way it just shot up in the air. Yeah, because that thing just came full speed. And they just, like I said, luckily there was a ramp that it hit. And again, I mean, I don't know if there was a stunt driver in that thing when they jumped it.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Oh, man. I don't know how far it went, but it like, cleared that gap and I love how it landed. I mean, that thing, that thing, those things are so heavy. Man, those axles would have broke wheels with a blue out everything. But they were all like, yeah, they made it. So they were all good. Then they were hitting traffic, right?
Starting point is 00:37:01 Is that, that's why they got off the bus or got off the freeway? Yeah, they were. Oh, what? No, go ahead. I was going to say they were about to hit traffic. but then he's seeing, we don't know where he's going yet because he just tells her to turn here and she keeps saying turn here.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And then when they turn there, we cut back to Mac and then Mac was kind of like, that's smart because he can just keep circling the air strip and the news helicopters can't go into that airspace. Because I like this when they got off the freeway. Again, she had to keep it over 50 and she was punching it and they were just holding a steer well
Starting point is 00:37:44 as hard as they could to the right and just to make that sharp turn. Again, reality, that thing would have flipped right over, but it had to move. Well, I mean, everybody did get on one side of this. That's right.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Everybody get over here. Oh, man. But that was a cool stunt. I love that because it was just taking out all those. big yellow orange or yellow water things on the side of the freeway. I thought that was awesome. And then once they got on the street, they were hauling ass.
Starting point is 00:38:21 And were they arguing or were they talking before they ran into that baby stroller? I don't remember. I know they were having a conversation and she wasn't paying attention. Yeah, because we see this old lady walking out pushing a baby stroller. stroller and here comes the bus full speed and then that lady dives out of the way and the bus just slams into that baby carriage and it just
Starting point is 00:38:48 goes flying in the air that shit you not the first time I saw this the theater just went and then it was just quiet because that thing was sailing and then the air the baby carriage and then I just love Sanja or Annie
Starting point is 00:39:03 she was like oh my God she like grabs her mouth and then the carriage hits the ground and all these aluminum cans go flying out of it. That's, and the whole theater just busted out in the laughter at that point. But I was even like, oh, fuck. She hit that baby. But it wouldn't, there's no way they would have done that in this type of film.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But I thought that was a good scene. It did, it did its purpose. I mean, seeing this in the theater. I mean, even watching it now, I've seen it a million times. I mean, I know what's in it, but it's still, it was like an intense scene. So I thought that was pretty awesome When they finally get to the airport And then they're telling them
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah you can you be able to do loops Until we figure out what we're gonna do Um Where was Harry was at the police station right? Yeah he's trying to he's still trying to figure out who Dennis Hopper's character is and then He gets an idea to look at not criminals but cops
Starting point is 00:40:10 and then he's like check who's like basically who retired in the past he said look look back 10 years and because they brought up the whole thing with the explosive under the bus that had to do with the gold watch
Starting point is 00:40:23 oh that's right because um uh when they told them well do you know where the bomb is and they were like no and that's when uh keanu was under under the bus looking around and he found it And that's when he told him there was, was it C4?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah, he said there was enough C4 to blow a hole in the world. And they had their little gold watch or silver watch or whatever it was as a timer on it. So they realized, who came up with the idea to, like, loop the videotape? I think that was Keanu. this was after they found a video thing and he he had everybody kind of stay still and
Starting point is 00:41:14 he talked to Mac and then they were trying to record the footage but they didn't have enough time so they only had like a minute of footage and he told the news guy the camera guy to just loop it so it just plays over and over so that's
Starting point is 00:41:31 that's how they got they tricked Howard Dennis Hopper's character In order to do that, was so they can get everybody off the bus. But before all that, we jumped ahead. They're on the tarmac at the airport, driving in a circle.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Jack tried to go, he went under the bus to try to see if he can disarm it. Right? Is that what happened? Yeah, with the little cart thing that they kind of, with the wire, with the cable, just kind of let them slowly go under the bus. That's right, because that truck pulled up in front of the bus, and then that little cart came going.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And Keanu got on that, and he was trying to figure out, or he was talking to Harry and describing what the bomb looked like and what he needed to do. But did one of the tires blow out on the bus? Yeah, when they first, went into the elevator, what the fuck am I talking about, the airport.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And they pulled in, you know, the little spike things when you drive on the wrong entrance. Okay. Because that, that would have blew out all the tires, first of all. Yeah, well, in this movie, it only blows that one tire. One of the inside tires in the back, I think. Yeah. Anyway, so there was some little shrapnel from the, from the tire. while he was under there trying to disarm the bomb.
Starting point is 00:43:10 It went under his little cart and then just woo-wooed. His cart was going all crazy. He didn't know what to do. What did he stabbing to the gas tank? Was that screwdriver? Yeah. Yeah, he had a screwdriver and he was just trying to stop himself from trying not to get run over.
Starting point is 00:43:26 He ended up stabbing the gas tank with a screwdriver. And they were like, oh, fuck, what is that? and they were there to get him up. So Popeye crawled under there to see if he could get him out. And because the little cart, he jumped off of it, right? Because then he was holding on to the bus. Yeah, I don't know what he was holding on to, but he was holding on underneath the bus and the car got ran over by the back tires.
Starting point is 00:43:58 All right. And then they thought, well, Annie was like, see if he came out from behind the bus? Because when they ran over that thing. And they said no, and that's when Popeye crawled under there and saw him and then grabbed him. There was a little panel on the floor of the bus, so they were able to open it. And that's how Keanu got under there. And so Popeye reached another, grabbed him and pulled him out.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And then he kind of jumped up and walked over towards Andy. And she was getting all mad and hitting him because she was scared, thought he was dead. And then she goes, what's that? And he goes, you smell like gas. He said, well, we're leak. He goes, why, why are you smelling like gas? He goes, because we're leaking gas, because he put that hole in it. So it was after that is when he came up with the idea to loop the video, right?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah, but between this, these two scenes, we get the scene with Harry, finds out who Dennis Hopper is, and he gets his little SWAT team together, and they go to his house. And Dennis Hopper was. expecting them to eventually find out who he was and booby trapped the house and this is where Harry dies and an explosion. Yeah, that was a week. I mean, there was no way around it because as soon as they saw that bomb, he didn't
Starting point is 00:45:19 even try to run. He was like, fuck it. I'm dead. Yeah, I mean, he was right there. Yeah, he just stood there looking at it and the whole house blew up. So, and this is when Keanu just lost it. then this is when he finds out that Harry's dead and he just, ah,
Starting point is 00:45:37 starts getting hell, hell and mad and he's kind of like, you need to calm down because you can't lose it. She goes, I need you. So that's when they figured out what they can do with the video and loop it. And so why they did loop it, it was starting to play because they,
Starting point is 00:45:55 one of the TV vans, the news vans, they tapped into that, the feed of that camera. that was on the bus, the little camera that Dennis Hopper could see. So they looped that up and they came with the idea to let's get all the passengers off the bus. So that's when they did that. They looped it and they said, all right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:46:19 They rolled up to the side with another flatbed and then they just started getting everybody off the bus. And the only one, the last two were on was Annie and Jack. So what they were going to do is they kind of rigged the bus to keep it going fast And they were going to jump on that little through that little hole that was a little hatch that was on the bus And then they were just going to ride off to safety on that little And that little trap door whatever they had wheels on it for some reason So this was another thing that it's just a little nitpick because because I work at an airport.
Starting point is 00:47:02 The, once they let the bus go, what's Jack and Annie, everyone's off the bus, Jack and Annie, shimmied off on the little, trap door, and the bus just continues to haul ass to go straight.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And there's some little tugs, a little car is pulling an airplane. So as they're pulling, along here comes a bus full speed which I thought was an awesome stunt no CGI everybody yeah rogue real explosions
Starting point is 00:47:38 real stuff that bus slams into this big giant military plane and then the whole thing just blows up all right here's my little complaint about this the bus hit the plane
Starting point is 00:47:54 obviously went below 50 and then the bomb went off as well and the whole plane blew up So I assume the guys that were tugging or pulling the plane Jumped out of the little car and ran to safety I don't know about military planes But when you're pulling a plane like that Someone has to be sitting in the
Starting point is 00:48:15 The pilot seat Because when we tug and I'll pull planes around Someone's got to be up in there riding the brakes And everything So I was thinking Man is somebody Did somebody just die? Because they blew up that whole plane.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Again, it's just a little nitpig. But, yeah, it was a good stunt, man. They really blew up that bus and that plane. So I thought that was awesome. The SWAT team and everybody, Mac and everybody, they pick up Annie and Jack. Had they get back into it again? Keanu told Mac that because there was no news cameras and they were looping the footage, he doesn't know the bus exploded.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So they set up a meet like 30 minutes later for the drop off of the money. Well, that's right. Because then they, well, he finds out that the tape was on loop and then he watches the news and finds out. that there was an explosion. So they were, they came with the idea, like, okay,
Starting point is 00:49:32 we're going to meet you at such and such corner. Put the money and put the, in the garbage can. So while they dropped the money off into the trash can,
Starting point is 00:49:47 I mean, everyone's watching. You got guys on the rules and blocks away surveillance. Another nitpick. So why Keanu and the gang or all waiting to catch Howard Payne.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Why was Annie there? She said Keanu told her to stand there. No, I mean, but they were at the airport, man. She could have left with everyone else on the bus. Why did she go downtown with him? That's her man. And he told her to stand right there. But why did he bring her?
Starting point is 00:50:23 A movie, everybody. I mean, I was even the very first time I thought, I said, why is she there? So it'd be different if this was happening at the airport, but no, they went downtown. And so they also had a little tracker in the bag. And they were saying, well, the bag's moving. And they're like, well, nobody came and got it. And that's when they all run over there. And then they move the garbage can.
Starting point is 00:50:52 They see that there was a hole under it. So when they dropped the money in there, it just fell. straight into the hole and Dennis Hopper grabbed it. But before all that, we kind of see Annie just kind of lingering around. And this is Dennis Hopper grabbed it, right? Yeah, he had his police uniform on. And that's right, because he grabbed her. And then that's when they noticed that there was a hole in the ground and they go chasing.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So they dive into the, not into that hole, but I'm sure they went through like the manholes. And I got a nick pick right here. Was it, I mean, were they in a train station? Is that where they were? Because I don't think that was the sewers. No, it looked like a subway thing. But my nickname pick here is when they realize the money's gone, like you see the little tracker, like leaving.
Starting point is 00:51:49 But when he jumps down in the hole, he sees him at the bottom of the stairs. Yeah. So I guess that's mine. That's right. It was a, it was a train, the station. Because he went down there. And then when Jack was running around, look for him, he pulled out his gun and did the whole, okay, you got a whatever, whatever point out your head for a pop quiz.
Starting point is 00:52:16 What do you do? And shit like that. And then the person, you can clearly see it's Annie. But we just see like the shadow and the tree. turns around and she's hold she's got a bomb vest on um where was dennis hopper during all this uh standing beside her off to the side i don't know i don't remember she after she spun around and then he realized that that was her she got all that explosive on her that's when uh he kind of came out because he was holding the um a little detonator in his hand yeah
Starting point is 00:52:54 And I think he already had it pulled, hold it down because they said if he lets it go, then it was going to blow up. Yeah, I think they call them a dead man switch because you shoot him and he drops it. It's going to go off as soon as he lets go of it. All right. So he grabs her and they jump onto what says here he hijacked the subway train. And then handcuffs the Annie to the full. and then how did Jack jump onto the train?
Starting point is 00:53:27 He climbed I know he got in but I don't remember why he got out and on top because he was on the top and that's when Dennis Hopper climbed up there for some reason
Starting point is 00:53:45 he was going to kill him because remember he he opened the bag and the die pack blew Oh, that's right. Because when they were on the train, yeah, and when he opened it up and then it blew up in his face. So,
Starting point is 00:54:00 Keanu was on the train by that time, right? Yeah, and Dennis Hopper shot the conductor and shot up the panel and the train just, like the movie said, is building up speed and he's got her handcuffed to the pole. He's making her hold the switch. and then I think that's when he goes,
Starting point is 00:54:23 no, he doesn't hold this way. He takes it back. I'm watching it right now. So they, they get into like a little fight scuffle on top of the train. Yeah. And the,
Starting point is 00:54:37 I don't know how, I'm sure they had more space between the top of the train and the ceiling, but does he hold Dennis Hoppers a head up? He kind of, kind of pushes him up and then that light or whatever fixture like knocks his head right off yeah yeah says something keanu so it was a stupid line he was like he said something i forgot
Starting point is 00:55:02 what dennis hopper said to him but keanu was like yeah well i'm taller all right so uh yeah he's dead um because he gets his head knocked off and then he jumps down in there and uh Keanu is able to get the bomb vest off of Annie and then he throws it out of the back of the train. He threw it out of the train, right? Yeah. Okay, so he threw it out of the train. And the train is still hauling full speed down the tracks because when he shot up the controls, I mean, they couldn't stop it.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And Keanu's trying to get the handcuff off. he's trying to kick that pole, trying to see if he can at least knock it loose somehow. So he can get it off, but they're like, fuck. And there was nothing they can do. So they basically just kind of hug each other and hopefully they don't die. Were they on the front, the front train car? Yeah, because they were pretty much right there where the,
Starting point is 00:56:12 I guess where the conductor sits. And he just, because he can't slow it down, so he just makes it go faster. and then they, like you said, they just hold each other and just hope for the best. And watching it right here, they possibly just murdered a whole bunch of subway workers crashing into everything. Because it doesn't go shooting out out of the Alist Street? It's crashing, knocking on all these pillars, things are probably collapsing on people. And then it's going up this perfectly placed ramp right up into the streets. because it goes crashing up and lands on Hollywood Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. I know there's a train system there, but I don't know if it goes all the way to Hollywood. I don't know. I mean, I don't even just know my knowledge of Hollywood and L.A. A few times I've been there. So they obviously survive that crashing through the train station and bursting out onto Hollywood Boulevard. so they're there
Starting point is 00:57:18 and then they kind of give each other a warm embrace and then she's going to hump his brains out once they get back to his house and then she gives him a kiss and then that's the end of your film but
Starting point is 00:57:36 this movie is awesome I mean for what it is and the goofiness and the little nitpicks we had here and there I mean I still love this movie I will give it a 9. I love it that much. I would be a 10, but there was just the little nitpicks in it.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But it's still an awesome film, everybody. Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm going to give it a 9. There's not too much I can say against it, all the stuff. You just have to go with it and say it's a movie. And I can't give it a 10 because it's not a perfect movie. but this is definitely one of those movies
Starting point is 00:58:16 Keanu Reeves is going to be known for and like I said I'm not a big Sandra Bullock fan but I like her in this she did fine like the rest of the cast and it was crazy because I think you and me just came to the realization that Harry from Dumb and Dumber is Harry in Speed
Starting point is 00:58:35 yeah awesome film everybody all righty we're going to go up a few years this film came out in 1997 rated PG-13 it was two hours and one minutes long came out June 13th of
Starting point is 00:58:55 1997 and this is the sequel Speed 2 Cruise Control Somebody find the captain The captain is dead This summer There's no changing course He's turning us right into the island
Starting point is 00:59:09 I am never leaving the house again No slowing down Shut us up to shit We're getting No getting on Oh man Because on June 13 Rush hour hits the water
Starting point is 00:59:20 Space to cruise control How do you like your vacation so far Rated PG-13 Rush hour hits the water June 13 A computer hacker breaks into the computer system Of a seaborne legend cruise liner And sets it It sets it speeding on a collision course
Starting point is 00:59:41 Into a gigantic oil tanker same director Jan D. DeBant or whatever Writers are Graham Yos and the director guy or whatever his name is
Starting point is 00:59:57 I think there's a few more credits to this writing team Gramios Jan de Bant Randall McCormick and Jeff Nathanson I believe
Starting point is 01:00:11 but Speed 2 cruise control. Again, we bring Sandra Bullock back as Annie and Michael, Jason Patrick. Michael from Lost Boys, everyone. Jason Patrick, he's Officer Alex Shaw. We got the awesome William Defoe as John Geiger. And Django Fed, Boba Fett, Captain Rex, all the clones.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Tamura Morrison, he plays Giuliano, Brian McKeever. Cardi as Mercedes And then there's a bunch of other people in here That you know you see them like oh hey that's him or hey that's her Like Mike Haggody Colleen camp Lois chili Chalays or whatever
Starting point is 01:01:01 Francis Gouan I think that's his name A bunch of other people But Speed control or speed control or speed control speed too cruise control what did you think of it when I started watching this movie
Starting point is 01:01:19 the more I got into it the more I realized I don't think I've ever seen this movie before because I would have remembered how fucking stupid this movie is it is so pointless Sandra Bullock it's almost like she didn't even need to be in this movie
Starting point is 01:01:37 she was just like a side character and she is the returning main character from the original one and you make her a side character. Jason Patrick, I love Jason Patrick, but he, I don't know if it was the way he was supposed to play the role, but he really seemed like he didn't want to be in this movie. Like, he was so emotionless. And I don't know if that's just because he kind of is that guy in some of his movies,
Starting point is 01:02:05 but it just really seemed like he didn't want to be in here. The whole story behind them being together. I thought was stupid. The whole, what was he, what did she think he was? Beach Patrol. Yeah. Beach patrol. They tried to bring back some characters from the first one just to let you know this is all connected.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's all the same. And I was just like, whatever. And the only thing I did like, I kind of like Willem Defoe, because I kind of felt like, just like Dennis Hopper. he was having a good time playing a villain and hamming it up to and his whole reason wasn't necessarily about money was more than that and I kind of I kind of dug that but overall I think this was just a poor sequel um I kind of liked it for as goofy as it was and yeah it seemed pointless at times um
Starting point is 01:03:11 Sandra Bullock, she's exact same character. All just kind of bitchy and complaining about this and that. Jason Patrick, looking at his filmography, I don't think he was never, I think he just didn't want to be an action star. Maybe like you said, he acted like he didn't want to be there. Maybe he just needed that check and he realized it was something quick and easy to do. William Defoe, I mean, he's good as a bad guy all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, he's good and everything he pops up in. I mean, he owns his role. So I liked him as a bad guy. I thought he was good. I mean, everybody else in it, the little side characters were good. But for as goofy as the whole situation is, because in this one, William Defoe character, William Defoe's character, John Geiger,
Starting point is 01:04:13 he is a former cyber employee of the cruise company and why did they fire him? I think he got sick and because he got sick they just kind of threw him to the side like he was nothing, even though he created everything.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Yeah, because he, the little ocean liner, what are they called? Seaworn legend. It was a Caribbean cruise. He worked for them and he designed all the computer stuff and the navigation stuff and everything for this company and then
Starting point is 01:04:47 I think he got cancer or something I assume that's what they said because the way he was keeping himself alive was I mean all the drugs the prescriptions that he had seemed like he had a shit ton and then he had some leeches and what the leeches were doing is they were sucking his blood out to I guess the doctor said we're going to give you a year, but then he did his own medicine with the leeches.
Starting point is 01:05:17 And he because he said, yeah, once they're sucking all the blood, I mean, maybe that would give me a few more years of life. But his whole thing was he wanted to get back at the cruise line company. So in order to do that was to hijack their boat and then just basically just crash it into something. I kind of thought that he other than he was trying to get back at the company was his other intentions to do that jewel heist You know what? I don't know because they introduced the jewels
Starting point is 01:06:01 And everybody was flipping out over him And then I don't know if I blacked out or what but it just kind of seemed like they were never even really brought up again. Yeah, because there's a scene when there's like a show going on and everyone's having dinner. And then they kind of make this announcement. Yeah, we're going to bring in all these jewels. And you can go see it at whatever jewelry store that's on the boat. Were they letting people wear those jewels?
Starting point is 01:06:31 That's what I was going to say because that's stupid. It was a black tie event because everyone was dressed up. and these people come out with jewelry and they're talking about it and then they start putting it on the ladies like the necklaces and the rings and all that and I was thinking okay I mean I guess there's no way you can go to once once you're on the ship but yeah you know it was probably misdirection because now I'm remembering there's a there's a bunch of little scenes like when he was interacting with the captain Willem Defoe's character I kind of thought that the captain was in on it, the way they were interacting. I thought everybody was in. Yeah, I thought, um, I think there was a lot of misdirect in here. Tamara Morrison, I thought he was in on it. But, uh, it was all, uh, willing to follow on.
Starting point is 01:07:25 He was running solo, uh, on this mission. Uh, well, to get back to the, the main two characters, uh, Annie and Alex, um, Annie is just still trying to live her life in LA, Alex. is a police officer in LAPD. And in the beginning of the film, why was he chasing that guy? Was it just someone that was trying to get away? They never said. It's some guy in it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I don't know if it was in a delivery truck, an ice cream truck, or whatever. Somehow he was not able to fully catch up with this delivery truck in a Ducati motorcycle. I don't know. He's supposed to be on the beach patrol. Yeah, so he's he's chasing this truck around. And then we go to Annie's character and she's taking the, she's at the DMV taking the driver's test. And her driving, the guy, the instructor that's given to the test is the one and only
Starting point is 01:08:27 in the legendary Tim Conway. So that was his little cameo on this. Tim Conway's hell of funny. I like him and everything he pops up in. So I'm surprised. he didn't just pull over because she's driving all over the highway all crazy and not signaling,
Starting point is 01:08:46 not really just running lights and shit like that. And I was like, I didn't understand that part because what shit, she just drove a fucking bus a few years ago and jumped it and everything. And now she's driving all crazy in her little car. I'm like, all right, whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah, because they said she lost, in the first one, they said she lost her license from speeding, not, knowing how to drive. Because it's like that whole scene when she was doing the test, she acted like she didn't even know what she was doing. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:19 she made another car crash and as soon as it like crashed into something like all the windows exploded out of it and everything. And I'm just like, this is supposed to be the person that helped save the day in the first one. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:09:34 So while that's happening, she's obviously driving in the same direction where Alex and the rest of the police are chasing this. It looked like an ice cream truck. Well, no, it was a delivery truck because when he was driving riding that motorcycle behind it, the back doors opened and all those packages were falling out. So he goes chasing it up there and then it catches it and it flips over and crashes. And he grabs the driver and saves his day.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But as all this is going on, here comes Annie. I don't know why they're driving. driving way up there on a driving test. So she ends up at the crime, at the crime scene, the crash scene and everything. And she sees, she actually crashes into one of the police cars. And I'm surprised they all didn't jump out and arrest her.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Because they just, cops didn't even like care that she crashes as one of their police cars. They know her because Jason Patrick's captain is Mac. Oh, that's right. He was in this again. This is, because they, they let you know then the first one, how a close-knit group they are, these SWAT guys. And he's part of Max's team or crew or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:56 And she has no idea. He's a part of this, this, this SWAT team. I guess not. I have no idea. So, um, the Alex and, uh, and Annie is kind of like, what, what are you doing up here? I thought you were at the beach and all this. And then he, so he basically, he was hiding who he was. Um, so I don't know why he didn't tell of that in the beginning when they first started seeing each other.
Starting point is 01:11:28 But, uh, they did, did mention that that's why her, Keanu didn't work because of the whole, the whole line from the first one of how those. kind of they if you meet in those kind of circumstances it doesn't work good for the relationship oh yeah okay yeah they kept having these little callbacks i was just like whatever i mean there was no need to bring that up but i guess whatever you got to do to keep the story moving so uh Alex kind of springs on okay well maybe we can uh just take a vacation and uh so he shows her the tickets that he had that I don't know why he was carrying him with him on a police job,
Starting point is 01:12:12 but he pulls out the cruise line tickets, say, we're going to take a cruise of Caribbean. She's like, oh, cool. Everything's all right. Next thing we get to the boat, and everyone's getting on the ship. I don't know if they, I've never been on a cruise, have you? No, I can't swim, so it kind of freaks me out.
Starting point is 01:12:35 anyway, so the boat is the ship is already out. I don't know why it's not docked, but how they were getting all the passengers on was like another little ferry boat. This cruise liner actually didn't look that big. Because there was a lot of helicopter shots when they're showing the outdoor. I don't know how many floors it was,
Starting point is 01:13:01 but I don't know. I mean, when I see other cruise liners, they look huge. one didn't look that big so yeah they're they get on the ship and uh i don't know how much money uh alex makes because they he gets uh i think a sweet because that room they were in that balcony and everything and it was huge um and i'm sure those cost a pretty penny i don't think he could pay for that on his salary no but anyway so um i mean this whole time he's you can We see that he's trying to get up the nerve to ask Annie to marry him. Because he has his ring and everything.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And while they're getting situated, everyone else is getting onto the ship. We're introduced to what's his nuts. God damn it. William Defoe's character, John Geiger. He kind of gets on, he just gets on onto the ship. And he's like, I think he's like in the next room. the next of those Alex and Annie's
Starting point is 01:14:07 and uh he know he was complaining about his uh garbage nice gar his golf clubs that that they lost and they said no we'll find we'll bring them up to you later so they kind of Annie and Alex and John Geiger kind of just bump each run into each other and all that
Starting point is 01:14:27 and then um Alex this is this kind of bugged me though I mean, yes, he's a police officer. I guess I should ask my police friends. I know you're always supposed to be on the job no matter what, even if it's your day off. But Alex was like just analyzing everyone because he was looking, they were sitting out on the deck,
Starting point is 01:14:53 and he was getting drinks, and he's looking over, and we see William Defoe sitting in there, and they're kind of giggling around and laughing. And Alex is watching them. And then when she comes back and he's like, it's weird that he was complaining about his golf clothes, but then yet he has never turned and watched the golf tournament that's on TV.
Starting point is 01:15:15 But I guess when you're a cop, your mind is always on the job. And you're trying to, if you see stuff that's going to bug you or whatever. I was kind of like, really? But then again, I'm not a police officer. I don't know. I'll ask my friends and see if they're, constantly watching everybody, even when they're not on the job. So we see John Geiger's character.
Starting point is 01:15:42 He's kind of patrolling around the ship. And in his room, he's starting to set up. He's got, I don't know how many laptops he had, but he's basically going to just take over the ship. So I know he walked around and he was sitting, he had golf balls. did um i thought there were bombs but they they weren't i guess they were just those smoke bombs because remember when all the smoke was coming out of the the air vents yeah because uh later the fire
Starting point is 01:16:15 or he's he does sets a computer out to tell everybody there's a fire and the smoke bombs were to create the illusion that there really was a fire when there wasn't he just wanted people off the boat yeah because while he was doing all that getting everything all set up that big party was going on Alex was going to propose to Annie there John Geiger William Defoe he kind of goes up
Starting point is 01:16:43 into the the bridge of the ship where the captain and his crew are and he comes in and acts like he's drunk falling all over the place and hitting knocking over switches and while he fell down he had this little
Starting point is 01:16:58 some kind of little device that he stuck under one of the tables or one of the counters. It was a transmitter. Okay, yeah, he stuck his transmitter in there and then they took him back to his room. And then he goes back in his room and he was able to just hack into
Starting point is 01:17:17 their whole system, I assume. And then he must have stuck unless there was a microphone or something on that transmitter because he had a little thing in his ear listening and because he was able to hear the conversations up on the bridge of the ship with the captain and everything.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah. So everyone's at that party. He's getting everything. What blew up first? That's a good question. I think it was something, one of the lower decks, somewhere in the lower decks.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But didn't before this, he threw the captain over, board. Yeah, he, that's when I was like, the captain's not involved because he threw him overboard. Because, yeah,
Starting point is 01:18:09 before he took over the ship, he ended up killing the captain. Why did he dress up as one of the ship guys? I don't know. Was that just so he can walk around and no one's going to question him? I guess,
Starting point is 01:18:25 but I don't know. You figured people on the ship would know, hey, who are you? It seems pretty laxed on this ship anyways. I mean, they're letting people try all these expensive jewels on, and I don't remember seeing any kind of security around. I don't think there was. I mean, it just seemed like it was just all the helpers on.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I mean, I don't remember there being security or anything, or much less police. Oh, and we forgot another scene that I completely fucking hated, and it was because of the way Jason Patrick, played it when he's doing the sign language with the little girl. Oh. It would have been nice if he showed some kind of emotion. Yeah, he was phoning it in.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Completely. I thought that that little girl was kind of a server of purpose in this film. She didn't. Yeah, she didn't do anything. I heard Dad was a dick Almost the entire movie Yeah
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah because Once The William Defoe's character Kills the captain And just throws him Throws him overboard And then he goes under the ship And I assume he got chopped up
Starting point is 01:19:51 By the blades Of the ship So I think he lit all He ignited an explosion Because When that went off, that's when everybody that was in that party was like, oh my God, what's happening? And everything was going on.
Starting point is 01:20:09 So did he immediately, after that explosion, did he go up to the room and then just like take over the whole system of the ship? He started to, and then that one, I don't know what you call him, people that come see if you need anything or whatever. the guy that was supposed to be like the comedy relief I guess of the movie A little bellhop guy or whatever Yeah he was bringing towels or something And then he just kind of came into the room While William Nafo was doing
Starting point is 01:20:47 Whatever bad guys do on the computers And he came walking and I was like Whoa I'm sorry And he goes, didn't you see the do not disturb sign On the door And he was like I think it said room needs service And then
Starting point is 01:21:02 William Defoe hits him What do you hit him with a golf club? Yeah, which in other movies That probably would have killed him But not this guy He had a slight little cut When you see him later That's right
Starting point is 01:21:17 Because he knocks him out And then we We go back to the party And this is when Alex springs into action Like hey man You just kind of hang out He was telling Annie
Starting point is 01:21:29 You kind of just hang out here I'm gonna go see what's happening so he goes up to the bridge doesn't he yeah he goes up to the bridge he's telling everybody he's LAPD he's questioned everybody of course nobody
Starting point is 01:21:46 thinks he should be there and they're telling him to leave and he's got you got the Fet is now the captain and he's trying to figure out what to do and Jason Patrick's like telling him there's there's no way. He's saying
Starting point is 01:22:03 some reason why there's no way there could be actual fires going on. It's a diversion and nobody believes him. All right. It says right here. Aboard the ship danger passenger passenger, as a former cyber employee of a cruise company, hacks into the
Starting point is 01:22:19 ship's computer system in the following evening he destroys the ship's communication system and kills Captain Pallard. After remotely shutting down the ship's engines, Geiger calls the bridge to tell the first officer Giuliano that Portland was killed
Starting point is 01:22:38 or is dead and he's in charge now Giuliano is ordered by Geiger to evacuate the ship Geiger steals jewelry from the ship's bolt as passengers evacuate evacuate, I'm sorry, evacuate drew a young deaf girl becomes trapped in the elevator all right see
Starting point is 01:23:02 once he he stops the boat or cuts off the engines and he when he tells the Geiger tells Giuliano you need to get everybody off the ship you got 15 minutes to get everybody off that's why I figured this was the smaller ship
Starting point is 01:23:21 because no way in hell they could evacuate a big full cruise liner in 15 minutes because they said that's he goes the the boat shut down, but in 15 minutes it's going to kick back on and all you guys better be off the boat. So while all that was happening, everyone was trying to, like the life boats were getting put down. Was there a storm going on during all this?
Starting point is 01:23:48 Yeah, because you got to have the storm going on. Oh, yeah. Okay, that's right, because it started raining when, when Geiger was walking around. so while they throw down these big canisters these things these things blow up and then the big raft life raps pop out
Starting point is 01:24:06 I don't know how many of those were down there but then they these big giant lifeboats on the side of the ship they were trying to lower it down to it with all the people in it but then something happened did the wires get caught or tangled
Starting point is 01:24:23 I mean what happened I don't remember what happened I think one broke and he was uh jason patrick was telling people don't get out or you're going to tip it over or something and the one lady the the deaf girl's mom was trying to get out because they they couldn't find their daughter and when she's trying to get out i guess she tips it over and people fall in the water and i'm assuming they died
Starting point is 01:24:47 yeah and because i think they all got sucked under yeah and then jason patrick fixes everything with a rope and he has the one guy help him the guy that takes pictures of tourists I got a question about that later what the hell was that guy's name Dante Dante yeah
Starting point is 01:25:08 he was just one of the I assume the ship's photographer because he was taking pictures every time he popped up onto the screen so while they were trying to first they were trying to put the life rafts down
Starting point is 01:25:24 but then something happened and it got out tricked up and Alex jumped onto it with a rope to try to fix everything. All right, here's a little nitpick. Was Alex the only one that was trying to save the day? Because it didn't seem like no one else gave a fuck. You know what?
Starting point is 01:25:45 I'm so confused because everybody was down to just get off the boat. Django Fed, I don't know if he, I don't even know why. he stayed on the boat. Because it didn't seem like he was trying to fix anything. Yeah, because he was second in command. And once they realized that the captain was there,
Starting point is 01:26:05 they told all right, now you're in charge. So, I mean, I think he, why they stayed on the boat is they were still trying to see if they could correct everything. But then, I mean, especially now in mid-90s, everything was computerized and run by computers. But since Geiger hacked everything, I mean, nobody could get into the computer systems. So I think they were, but they stayed on the boat to try to see if they can figure something out.
Starting point is 01:26:39 But once the 15 minutes hit and then the engine started back up, they were still trying to get everybody from the lifeboat that was kind of dangling back onto the ship. Yeah. did it seem like that was it the whole all the passengers was that were in that one boat I you know the the boat that dropped in the water and inflated I never seen anybody get in those
Starting point is 01:27:09 or any of the other ones there was a group of people you remember that were that were locked in okay yeah because once he set off all the alarms the fire alarms the blast doors or whatever they all started to shut and lock so they did a bunch of people
Starting point is 01:27:29 got stuck in a hallway but I don't think there was that many people I mean a couple people died when they fell off the lifeboats and then went underwater a few that was it yeah but then once they got everybody off that
Starting point is 01:27:49 lifeboat I don't know how many people were on there but it would just seem like those people they got off and the people that were stuck in the hall. It was like 20 people on this boat. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm like, well, did everyone else get out? Because once they had all the people,
Starting point is 01:28:08 the passengers that were on this ship, they all kind of stayed in a big group. And yeah, it must have been like 20 of them if that. I don't know. What the fuck did everyone else go? Did everyone jump ship or they all die? I don't know. We didn't make this movie.
Starting point is 01:28:21 so where are we okay so they got everyone back onto the ship the captain's dead um Alex is still trying to he figured out who was doing this by now right yeah because he's a detective right
Starting point is 01:28:43 where are we where are we on this why isn't he a detective I mean he's just he's just analyzing things like Sherlock Holmes and putting things together and he's trying to tell the the one guy, not not not not not not above a fat but the other guy the I don't know what was the Australian or something
Starting point is 01:29:04 I don't know yeah he was trying to tell him pull up this on the computer or pull this up and kind of knew a lot more than he was letting on the little deaf girl she got separated from her mom and dad at the party, I think she was going back up to the room, but she got stuck in one of the elevators when all the power shut down. So she can't hear, but she was still trying to get out of it. This is when they find all those people trapped in that hallway, and smoke was coming out of
Starting point is 01:29:39 the air vents, and they weren't sure what it was, but Jack had already realized, or not, yeah, not Jack, Alex already realized that there was no fires, because when he was on the bridge talking to the, to the rest of the crew, and he was looking at all the stuff, and he saw one thing that, and all these red lights were blinking, because that supposedly was where fires were, that where the fire alarms were going off. And as he was like,
Starting point is 01:30:03 is there really fires here? And he goes, and they were like, yeah, it says right here, there's fires going. He goes, well,
Starting point is 01:30:11 he goes, I smelled smoke, but the smoke that I smelled, what did he say it smelled like? He said, he said something, something scientific. he was like, it didn't smell like this, so it couldn't have been an actual fire.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah, I mean, again, it's a movie. Yeah, because when they were walking down the hall and the smoke was coming out, he was like, you smell that, smells like, whatever, whatever. And he was like, no, I don't know what's talking about. So those people were stuck in that hallway, and then the smoke was coming out. So they were just trying to block all the air vents So they can at least breathe
Starting point is 01:30:53 Until somebody comes and gets them out Then that deaf girl is trapped in the elevator She's banging on the door She doesn't know what's going on Um How'd they get the little girl out of the elevator? I don't remember I don't think she just got out of the elevator
Starting point is 01:31:13 And then he's seen her on the camera And he went Because remember they were going to flood the bottom part Yeah that's right She got out of the elevator on her own. She shimmied up to the top, opened the hatch, and then climbed up the ladder in the elevator shaft. That's how she got. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:35 Nobody got her out because the people that were stuck in the hallway, Annie and was it Dante that went with her? I think so. because they oh yeah it was him and uh because he was taking pictures while all this shit was going on and they were just trying to find something so they can open the doors and get everyone out
Starting point is 01:32:00 um this this far may be laughing and it was stupid uh Annie is running around trying to find something to probably open the doors where she goes into this supply closet I guess and this is probably in the middle of the ship.
Starting point is 01:32:21 And in the supply closet or whatever it is, there's two chainsaws. First of all, what the hell is a chainsaw doing on a cruise ship? I don't know. Your guess is as good as mine, but she fires up one of the chainsaws and cuts the door so everyone can get out.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I was laughing that whole scene. The part that was funny, she's trying to tell those guys, you guys need to get out of there. Come on, hurry up. And she's standing there right in front of the hole
Starting point is 01:32:59 she just cut in the door with a finger on the trigger of the chainsaw. And it's going. And she's trying to tell everyone, come on, come on, come on, come this way, get out. I was like, why are you,
Starting point is 01:33:11 why is your finger on the trigger? First of all. Yeah, and then why, why did they all get undressed? They were trying to block the air vents. Oh, okay. Because they took off the jackets and the shirts and next thing you know, that guy was pulling his pants off and the other dude didn't want to take his pants off. Yeah, and then the one guy was like, why isn't she getting undressed?
Starting point is 01:33:36 And she was like, because I'm not wearing any underwear. Okay. They were, they were trying to bring the funny in this. Yeah, they were. Was this rated R or PG-13? I would think it's PG-13, because I don't even remember hearing the F-bomb. Yeah, it's PG-13. The first one was rated R, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah, and the first one cost, what, $30 million? And this one cost between $110 and $160 million. And then we got, it only made $164.5 million. So made 4.5 million more than they spent. And they spent a lot on this film, especially with the special effects. And I assume they just built this whole set of this ship. There was CGI in this?
Starting point is 01:34:37 I thought it was all right. It wasn't, this is late 90s, CGI. It wasn't too bad. I mean, you could tell what was CGI and what wasn't, but it didn't take me out of it. Yeah, it wasn't rogue. Yeah, it wasn't rogue CGI. But, I mean, for what it was, I mean, they obviously had the budget to pay a little more.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Now you're going to get me thinking, I got to see how much it costs to make that movie. Because if they spent billions of dollars on. Special of CGI special effects man they need to get their money back Um this was in the box This was in the theater
Starting point is 01:35:25 Rogue Yeah I think it was one of them They try to take advantage of big movies Not being in the theater All right Um It doesn't say what the budget is on
Starting point is 01:35:36 Wikipedia Does it say it on IMDB? I never pay attention of Um Let me see It doesn't It just says how much it made. So you don't even know how much money they spent to make this film.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I think I got it right here. No, I don't. It's telling me how much it made in the theater. Made $186,000. I'm sure they paid more for it. I don't know. See that movie still. Check it out if you guys want.
Starting point is 01:36:22 So they got everyone. out out of that hallway Alex finds a little girl because they're basically trying to slow the train slow the train slow the ship down because it's on a crash course for this island
Starting point is 01:36:40 Holy shit, $20 million for Rogue? Yeah. Oh, they did not make their money back at all. I think this is the right movie I mean, don't. 20 million? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Oh, this is a different movie. Oh, okay. That came out this year. I was going to say, what? 20 million for that? And it better not have been on the CGI. Because I'd ask for my money back. All right, back to the movie. Okay, so once everyone gets out,
Starting point is 01:37:14 Jack finds a little girl, because they were flooding the bottom of the boat in order to, so they can slow it down, because it was still going full speed. on its course, on its, oh, sorry, on its collision course for some island, some island in the Caribbean, wherever, because they see all kinds of shit going on over there. So, he goes down there, he finds a little girl that this would have been scary. I mean, it looks like it was them in this stunt because water, one of the little doors open,
Starting point is 01:37:53 busted open and all the water started coming in and they were trying to get out of it so they ended up just jumping on and just kind of riding riding the water down the halls but then they ended up in I don't know some kind of shaft I don't know what it was but they were in it and the water was rising and it was just carrying them to the top I don't know if it was Jason Patrick and that little girl that did the stunt
Starting point is 01:38:20 but it looked like both of them in that water because that did not look like a little lady it looked like that little girl so if that was them doing that stunt I don't know man I don't think I could hopefully don't ever
Starting point is 01:38:38 die in the water but like on wood then we get a super awkward scene after this where she tells him that she's in love with him and that she'll be 15 next month
Starting point is 01:38:53 and he's just kind of like and then they use the line from the first movie about meeting in these kind of situations or whatever they say don't work out yeah that was good I don't know why they
Starting point is 01:39:13 they threw that scene in with the little girl and Alex like what was he going to say all right cool This movie was long. It was. I was like,
Starting point is 01:39:25 why is this? When I saw it before I started it, I was like, why the hell is this two hours? Um, I mean, but I mean, what I,
Starting point is 01:39:35 the, yeah, it's goofy and everything, but once, once the, the action and everything kicked in, it didn't stop because it couldn't, because they were on a time limit,
Starting point is 01:39:44 which I thought was good. Because, but once it got towards the end of the film, I was kind of like, well, shit, the movie's almost over. And they stopped the boat. So what's come?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Well, we knew because we'll get to that in a second. So they're still trying to slow the boat down after the water thing didn't work. It slowed it down a little but not fully. Who came over with the idea to stop the propellers? I think the one Australian guy, I think he kind of, because everybody, was throwing ideas out there and then Captain Rex was like no no we got to
Starting point is 01:40:27 do this and then I think he threw out an idea and Jason Patrick was like you know what that might actually work so they were gonna he was gonna go underwater Alex was going to go underwater
Starting point is 01:40:44 and they said to throw this this rope in there one of those big giant thick ship ropes and it would wrap around the propellers and stop. So this was all CGI. It didn't look too bad. I mean, it was no rogue,
Starting point is 01:41:01 but he puts on his scuba gear and everything. He's got one, a yellow rope, his tether line, and they were going to, they tied another rope, a white rope onto that thick giant rope. And they said,
Starting point is 01:41:18 you just throw this in into the propellers. It'll wrap around, then it'll just pull this big rope in there. So he got under there. Everything was working good. He got the rope in there and it started getting tangled. But then once the big, thick rope
Starting point is 01:41:34 started moving, he realized that his tether line was all wrapped up around that. All right. Here's something. Another nitpick. The camera pulls back and we see his rope as all, his yellow rope is wrapped around that animal.
Starting point is 01:41:51 how the hells did it wrap around that rope I mean he would have had to have gone around it a few times but I don't know I didn't make the film so because they they throw the the rope in there it does kind of slow down a little bit but then when Jack is a Jack
Starting point is 01:42:15 when Alex is trying to I wish Jack was in his movie Yeah I was too man I think it would have been better He's trying to pull himself out and then he ends up getting out of the water. And then it was telling him, yeah, man, he goes, I don't think it's going to work because the rope, the big rope that did get tied down there.
Starting point is 01:42:36 And it stopped the propeller for a little bit, but it still kind of kept going. And then it pulled the rest of the little pulley that was pulling, that had that big thick rope, and it flew under the ship into the propeller, I'm surprised it didn't hit the propeller blades and stop the boat, but I don't know. So Alex is, okay, well, it didn't work. What are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:43:08 What's his name? William Defoe's character, he shows up, and he ends up, well, before that big pulley that was pulling the big thick rope. When that flew out, it kind of hit Giuliano. in the arm, and I must have cut him or so. No, he said it broke his arm. Yeah. Another nitpick in a second. So
Starting point is 01:43:33 the Alex is still in the water. Captain Rex, Giuliano, he's laying there, Boba Fett, Django Fet, whatever you want to call him. Or Jake Wachiki, I think that was his name. You see Once were Warriors?
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah. Oh, man. Powerful film, everyone. But anyway, so he's He's laying there. Geiger comes out. He has a gun on them. Tells Alex to, no, you can't get out. Did he push Giuliano into the water?
Starting point is 01:44:07 Yeah. Okay, so because he's in the water. He goes under. Alex runs kind of jumps underwater again to pull him out. Geiger grabs Annie and then they take off. Take off in a speedboat. Yeah, they go to the back of the boat. and was it a boat that had two water skis mounted to it?
Starting point is 01:44:32 I think so. So he gets Annie and they get off the boat. And then Alex and Giuliano, they get back on this ship. And they're still trying to figure out what are they going to do? How are they going to stop this? Geiger and Annie are off the boat. and he's still controlling the ship with his laptop and everything. And then they realized that the ship was,
Starting point is 01:45:02 other than it was on course to this island, there was a huge oil tanker that it was going to hit. So they're like, well, fuck, man, we're going to crash into it if we don't do something. So how did they figure out to start up those other little propellers on the side of the ship? I think this is when I started blacking out. I think it was one of the dudes on the bridge. I think he was the one that told him to do it. Yeah, I think the, I think he's Australian.
Starting point is 01:45:34 I don't know. I think he kept, when he finally was on board with Jason Patrick, I think he started throwing out ideas because at first he was just going by what the captain said and not helping him. But I think once he realized that what was his name, Alex? Yeah. Yeah, I think he was just trying to. finally help him, sees that he was helping out and was trying to help him. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:58 Okay, so it says right here. The crew noticed that Geiger has set the ship to crash into an oil tanker off the coast of St. Martin. Alex decides to stop the ship by diving underneath it and jamming it, jamming into propeller with the steel cable. Geiger realizes Alex is trying to stop the ship and he jams the cable. Alexander dies on the water. He stops that to avoid collision with the oil tanker. Alex and Dante go into the ship's village, B-I-L-G-E.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Sure, whatever. To use the bow thrusters to turn it. Bow-thrusters. So these bow thrusters, I didn't know this, I learned there from this film, or they're on the sides of the boat. And they had them, they wanted them to go turn those on. So if they turned it on full full speed, it would turn the boat in a different direction. Because they were going to go straight into that big oil tanker.
Starting point is 01:47:04 So but they told them, look where you guys need to go is underwater right now because it was at the bottom of the ship. So Alex and Dante are like, oh, fuck. So they're going. I mean, this whole time Dante, too, he was a young black gentleman. He was taking pictures of everything. even while all the shit was going down, he was still snapping away with his camera. So those two, they go down.
Starting point is 01:47:30 They find out where it is. They got Giuliano on the loudspeaker. He goes, hey, just tell us which way to go and what we're supposed to do. So they get there. They say, all right, man. Because you need to take that live jacket off because we got to dive underwater now. So Dante's like, oh, fuck, all right. So they go underwater.
Starting point is 01:47:50 They find these two big wheels that they're supposed to turn. And Giuliano told him, look, don't turn them both at the same time or are you just going to mess up everything? Turn one. So we can at least start to turn. So Alex tells Dante, look, man, we're going to have to play tag. And he goes, I'm going to go down there. I'm going to do what I got to do. Then I'm going to come up.
Starting point is 01:48:12 And he goes, give me 50 seconds. You come down. And they were going to do that back and forth. So while they're underwater turning this wheel. it starts up that bow thruster and it starts to move the ship and I think it went off to the right and they were like all right
Starting point is 01:48:30 so they kept doing it and doing it and they got it as fast as it can go and the ship was slowly starting to turn but it didn't turn fast enough it's still kind of well basically just slid along the side of that oil tanker which I thought was funny
Starting point is 01:48:46 I mean it was CGI I mean it didn't look bad But you can clearly see that it was CGI. But I thought that was cool because when that boat finally made that turn, it looks like they were going to miss it. But then it was still going too fast. And it slammed into the side of the oil tanker and just slid along the side. So they were all kind of happy.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Like, okay, we made it. We didn't crash into that thing. So Alex and Dante kind of go back up. But now the ship was going. another just straight ahead into this dock where there was tons of people, bars, restaurants, full tourist trap type of place,
Starting point is 01:49:32 full of tourists. And they're like, fuck, what are we going to do? Geiger and Annie are still hauling ass on a boat. Did Geiger just get on one of those jet skis himself or did he, did she, I don't know why he wasn't with the boat that Annie was on. I'm trying to remember how all this went down because I know this is where we eventually meet another character from the first movie.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Yeah, what's his name? Glenn Plummer. His name was Maurice in the first film and he's back playing the exact same character. Except it's not a car. It's a speedboat that's getting taken. I don't know what this young gentleman did for work, but he had a badass Jaguar and the first one, and now this one he had this big boat that he said it was like 150 grand.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Yeah, he said he bought a condo there too. Yeah, so I don't know what he's doing. But he's obviously doing good. He's got big old $100,000 boats and big condos and everything. still I'm sure he cleaned up on the of the insurance money for his Jaguar and I'm sure the LAPD had to pay for some of that too
Starting point is 01:51:01 but anyway so Alex jumps in the boat with him and trying to get him to was he trying to catch Geiger and Annie? Yeah because by now Geiger and Annie had got onto the the seaplane
Starting point is 01:51:23 Okay I'm trying to I'm really trying to remember where a seaplane came in Well the That it was sitting off to the side And that's It was there
Starting point is 01:51:34 He was waiting for them Because he was gonna make his way off And then they he already Grabbed Annie And he because he got back onto That boat And they got in the airplane And they took off
Starting point is 01:51:45 And then this is when Alex And Maurice And Maurice's girlfriend Are still just fucking hauling ass towards the plane. This part was kind of lame, but anyway. In order for them to catch the plane, they're still going full speed.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Alex gets one of those big giant deep sea fishing pools, but it's kind of like a pulley. Because what did he shoot out? Was that an arrow or something? It was like a spear. or something. I don't know. He MacGyvered some shit together. Yeah, because he shot the spear off this big giant fishing pole and it hit the boat and then he hit the switch on the pulley
Starting point is 01:52:31 and then it was slowly pulling him towards the boat or the plane. He gets to the plane. He kind of has a scuffle with Geiger. Did they just jump out of the airplane? Yeah. Did they fall in the water or did they? Oh yeah, they fell in the water.
Starting point is 01:52:56 That's right. They fell in the water. And then he came up and realized she didn't come up because she was still taped. Her wrists were taped and she couldn't swim. So he went back down and got her. And this is where we come to the most comical part of the movie is when Geiger. He's sitting there watching him laughing. And then he hits that shipmast.
Starting point is 01:53:19 and just the way it crashes and it just like stops like immediately and he's just hanging there from it was hilarious yeah this plane slams into one of the posts on the oil tanker this is what I didn't get I mean because there was like at this point they were they gave the order on the on the oil tanker to abandon ship I was thinking why why you guys abandoning ship man this the plane didn't blow up or anything.
Starting point is 01:53:53 I mean, it was just kind of stuck on that pole. But everyone was just running for the life trying to get off the ship. I assume it was leaking fuel or something out of the airplane. I mean... It seemed like this entire plane and ship was leaking stuff because this explosion was just massive. Okay, so here. attempts to fly over the oil tanker
Starting point is 01:54:23 but the plane becomes impaled on the ship's formats, causing both to explode. Okay, because it crashed and it was there for a minute and then you see fuel dripping out of it and then it just explodes. And this is
Starting point is 01:54:38 what was kind of weird too. Once that little plane blew up, it set off this whole chain reaction on the ship. And the whole tanker, which was pretty long just started blowing up and the next thing
Starting point is 01:54:54 you know the whole thing was on fire so hopefully everyone got off that tanker there's no way I don't think the guys down below made it out but anyway so I assume they're all dead evil is punished Geiger's dead
Starting point is 01:55:11 Jack saved the girl he proposed how'd they get back on the boat what's his name came Bobby Johnson came, got him. Maurice. And then he took him back to this. Yeah, they sped off and, oh, we forgot the boat.
Starting point is 01:55:31 The ship crashed into the town. And then you get another comedic scene of somebody showing a condo and the little kid's like, look, a ship. And the ship's coming and it's supposed to be funny. Okay. Let me see. Leaving Annie and both escaping the plane
Starting point is 01:56:01 and one as it floats which falls into the ocean. Geiger tends flying over and pales and it blows up. The tanker crew, however, are safe having launched their life war just in time. Leaving Geiger to perish and the resulting firewall alone, Annie and Alex travel back to shore in a speedboat and he gives her
Starting point is 01:56:20 an engagement ring asking her to marry her. Okay. So, yeah, they weren't on the boat when it crashed because they were still, Alex was rescuing Annie and they were on Maurice's speedboat. Yeah. So while that was going on over there, that cruise ship is still going full speed, but they were able to slow it down. But not fast enough. It still crashed onto, through the piers and just started wrecking, crashing in the houses. and then it tips over yeah it didn't look like it
Starting point is 01:56:58 it looked like it went far because it was just crashing into everything and everyone was falling all over the place the people on the ship were they were screaming and falling all over the place and Django broke his other arm
Starting point is 01:57:12 yeah it finally came to a stop and then it just like tilted over to the side it didn't flip all the way over but I was thinking some people People must have died in that scene because that boat was crashing into everything. And there was buildings or not buildings, but housing structures and restaurants,
Starting point is 01:57:37 warehouses, whatever those were. Everything was starting to cave in. Somebody had to have died. Oh, they're not. They're not showing us. But we know from the oil tanker to the ship crashing into the little town, a lot of people died. Yeah. I mean, there was no way you could say.
Starting point is 01:57:56 that no one died during all of this because the boat was just done. Did you see the mid-credit scene or the little before credit scene? Yeah, when Annie goes to take your driver's test again? Yeah, with the same guy, and right before they pull out onto the street, they almost get hit by a bus. And then she just goes tearing off off the screen. Yeah, because she still can't, she still can't drive. for some reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:28 And I guess she just, I don't know, maybe in L.A. You can take your test whenever you feel like it because she, the very next week is when she took the second test.
Starting point is 01:58:41 But the movie was goofy. I enjoyed it for what it was. It just made me laugh. I had not seen this in a really long time. I basically forgot the whole thing. But, I mean, I think the star of the film was William
Starting point is 01:58:56 to foe. He was a good guy. Yeah. What do you give it? I gave the first one a nine. Be honest. Seven. Okay. I give it a four.
Starting point is 01:59:18 I think this is probably one, besides Mission Impossible 2, this is definitely up there is one of the worst movies we've done on this show. It was what it was. It was goofy. Sandra Bullock was just in it to be in it. She really didn't do. She should have been the star.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Yeah. But we wouldn't see her running all over the place trying to stop the Green Goblin. Yeah. At some point, she should have took the wheel of the ship and told everybody, don't worry, I've done this before. Or something. I thought she would at least mention that she had done this before on the bus.
Starting point is 02:00:04 But, no, there was none of that. That was Speed 2 cruise control. Yep. The first one, the amazing film. I don't know if this is on Blu-ray, the second one. I'd probably pick it up just to complete this set. I mean, it's goofy. Jason Patrick
Starting point is 02:00:28 Just phoning it in Again, the star of the movie He was William Defoe. He was badass. He's always good when he's a bad guy. I like him. And when he was doing his little sinister laugh and smile,
Starting point is 02:00:42 damn that man is scary looking. But, yeah, speed and speed two cruise control. Yeah, that second one. It was, it didn't need to be that long. It was hell long. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:01 All right. What you guys got coming. I hope you guys got some Mandalorian episodes coming. We actually started, but then there was a huge, this is when the wind and all that picked up, and the internet was going in and out. So we just stopped.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Because I said, man, that would have been sitting there for hours trying to edit it. We only recorded, like maybe a half hours worth and it was just back and forth we said that fuck it and we'll just have to do it over the weekend so
Starting point is 02:01:31 hopefully we can get to that we're still working on our 200th episode of the East Society so hopefully that'll be out really soon, not sure when it's just whenever the Z's you can do it right now
Starting point is 02:01:49 because his work schedule is it's never set the same he can be off Monday, Tuesday, then the next week he can be off Thursday, Friday. So it bounces all over the place. So hopefully we can figure out of time to knock at least a regular episode and one of the Mandalorian ones. Because right now we're three weeks behind.
Starting point is 02:02:14 We'll probably be four weeks behind, but time we can get to the first one. But yeah, that's coming, everyone. Everyone, thank you so much for listening to the Magnus podcast. Episode 1.25, I put that one out a few days ago. And so that's up if you guys haven't heard that one yet. But as far as that, that's all we got going on. Oh, and we did the first two movies of paranormal activity with the regular show.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Yeah, listen to that to hear Lance's scores. which yeah segue to what we got coming you'll join us again for paranormal activity three and four and i'm assuming you'll probably join us for uh the marked ones and ghost dimension yeah i'll be there for the for the whole ride by the time you hear this uh stream fiends should be out uh a t hr exclusive new show uh boy he's uh friday the 13 fan film check that one out and as far as the action returns
Starting point is 02:03:28 we're going to do something a little bit different here uh we usually do two movies but the next episode we're going to do one because i'm going to try to do when we do like a newer release we just focus on that new release and uh i just noticed uh searching for movies i've seen uh jujitsu has dropped with Nick Cage. Man, that guy's on a mission. Got to pay them taxes back.
Starting point is 02:03:57 I guess so, may? Just takes anything they hand them. All right, man, to each is on. Do what you got to do to get paid. Yeah, so we'll do Jiu-Jitsu next episode, and the episode after that, we are going to do Fat Man starring Mel Gibson to bring in the holiday season.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Cool. Everyone. Sorry, real quick. Speed dual action pack. You get speed and speed two cruise control on Blu-ray on Amazon for 1299 in stock November 28th. That's not bad. Yeah, I might pick it up. Yeah, I guess I'm going to have to now.
Starting point is 02:04:41 If that's the only way I can get the second one. I'll probably never watch it, but I'll pick it up. it's good for just to look good to have both of them yeah if somebody wants to watch it I'll throw it in for them
Starting point is 02:04:58 but ah yeah well on Wikipedia um it was the Speed 2 was nominated for eight golden Raspberry Awards
Starting point is 02:05:08 I believe it and winning the worst remake or sequel category and Sandra Bullocks has a cool because I forgot which movies it was. That one year she won an Academy Award and a Razzie,
Starting point is 02:05:23 and she showed up to both. I thought that was Hallie Berry. I think they both did it. Okay. Holly Berry did it better, though. She showed up to the Razies with her Academy Award. All right. Any last words?
Starting point is 02:05:41 No, that is it, everyone. It is late. And, yeah. Again, everyone, you so much for listening to the action returns. Do check us out. Stream Feens when it drops. And I know there's another show called Stream Feen,
Starting point is 02:05:57 but we're, THR presents, Stream Feens. So that's how we can get around that. But other than that, again, thank you so much for listening, everyone. And you'll hear from us the next time. So until then, please be safe out there.
Starting point is 02:06:13 It's still a crazy world that we're living in and party on. Yep. Until next episode, everybody wear your mask. Be good to each other and stay safe.

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