The Horror Returns - The Action Returns -.Ep. #21: Fatman (2020)
Episode Date: December 4, 2020This episode Brian and Nez put on their winter coats and head to North Peak, Alaska to seek out the big man in the Red coat in 2020's FATMAN. Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook....com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns
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I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Maybe it's time I retired the coat.
You just need a break. We're all feeling it this year.
I've lost my influence.
You're an icon. People love you.
I'm a silly fat man in a red suit.
I mean, you think it's cute, but this is what people actually think of me.
Christmas is a farce. I am a joke.
There hasn't been any real spirit of the season anymore.
Not for years.
everybody to the actual returns this is episode 21 of course i'm your host bryne and with me as always
you know him you love them my brother nez what's up man yo man what's happening up there everything
down here is it's it's getting there so but how's it up there yeah same nothing's changed
just add snow to all the current problems.
It's been snowing for like two days and it needs to stop.
It really does.
And it's like inches or feet?
Inches about to turn into feet.
It's snowed here, but it all melted quick.
There's snow up in the mountains.
Everybody's hitting the slopes.
I'm not going to, but, uh,
Yeah, they're going up there
So, but to each
His own, just be safe
If you guys are going to go up on the mountains and slide down
But
I think I'm going to hopefully next season
So, but for now
I'm good
I'll stay down in the valley
But it's just cold here
Gotta make a fire every day
Oh, that sounds nice
Don't have a fireplace
But
definitely would have one.
So before we get into the movie,
you watch anything,
anything good lately?
Just Jiu-Jitsu.
I checked out saved by the bell,
the new Saved by the Bell,
that's on Peacock.
Yeah, I'm halfway through it.
It only gave me one episode.
I thought all of it was going to be on there,
but are you paying for it?
Yeah, because the wife, there was some shows on there that she wanted to watch that you had to get the premium.
So I was just like, why not?
You know, I wanted to check out saved by the bell because that was a show when I watched when I was younger.
So I'll pay for it, at least for the month.
Yeah, I mean, I only got to see the first episode.
But what I saw, I mean, it was good.
I was shocked.
Because that other take on saved by the bell they tried was just garbage.
What I want to wonder is Zach, whatever the hell his name is,
is he going to still being it because he's on mixed-dish.
And I didn't know if he was just doing this on his off time or what because in mixed-dish.
She's got long hair.
And it just really is hair.
So this,
this would look like they cut it and blonde them up unless they just put a wig or something on them.
But I don't know.
But the episode I saw,
what was the only episode?
So the pilot episode,
I thought it was good.
Um,
it was,
it was funny.
I kept my attention.
Uh,
I liked what they're doing now.
It's not just,
uh,
the kids of Bayside.
They brought,
um,
the hood.
to Bayside.
And I thought that was cool.
So I was like, damn, I want to see the rest.
But I want to search other means.
And then we'll see how.
But what I saw, I liked.
Yeah, I'm enjoying it.
It's, it's kind of strange because it's like the kids that already went to Bayside.
I kind of compared it to, I was talking to my explaining the saved by the bell to my daughter.
And the way the show is now, it's like the kids.
kids that are already at Bayside.
It's kind of like that movie when they did the Brady Bunch movie, how they were in that
time frame in that show.
And it's like the kids on in Bayside are like used to this lifestyle, you know, being,
you know, rich.
And then when the other kids get bust in, it's like the real world is clashing with the,
with the TV Bayside version.
And I, I'm, I'm enjoying it right now.
And I saw your post.
I am full
agree with you. I used to be team
Kelly, but
Jesse has aged quite well
and I think I'm switching
teams.
Yeah.
Kelly, Tiffany,
Amber Theson or whatever her name is.
She's still beautiful, but
I don't know, man.
I guess showgirls must
do something to her because, man,
Jesse looked. Dr.
Jesse Spano.
She's hot now
She's aged yes as well as Zach and Kelly but
Alfred Clifford AC Slater
He looks exactly the same
He never ages
No man he must be a vampire
Oh man but it was good
I liked that it's mainly him and Jesse now because Jesse's the
Was she one of the counselors?
Yeah
And AC Slater is the, I assume the football coach, the gym coach.
So I thought that was cool.
The part that made me laugh the most is when Slater was talking to that black kid
when he was trying to get him to join the football team.
And he goes, well, he goes, yeah, he goes, well, he goes, you're Mexican, I'm black.
And then AC went, man, thank you, man.
He goes, they never bring that up.
And that made me think they never did ever mention that he was Mexican
unless I missed a miss did but I was like they didn't mention it until the college years
So that made me laugh Lard so but I mean it did it's a half hour show so but for what it was it was actually pretty good
I mean I that I only saw the one episode but um
liked it. I'll definitely check out the rest of it.
Just got to search for it, but I'll find it.
I know you probably, since you're just getting off work now, you probably haven't seen
NXT or AEW.
No, I haven't. It's all recorded.
Yeah. I kind of got a little hyped in AEW. Somebody debuted.
Okay. Don't tell me. Yeah. I was like, I was like, really? Wow.
And then NXT, I am hyped for war games this weekend.
My girl's captain of her own team, Shotsie.
She got her a nice little, nice little squad together.
So definitely looking forward to war games.
She can be wearing a helmet?
Yep.
She got her helmet.
And the little promos they've been releasing.
She putting her tank back together.
Right on.
Speaking of her, she's straight out of Oaktown.
And I was talking to my brother the last time I was down there.
And one of his friends knows her.
She was, they have down in the Bay Area in Oakland, they have hood slam.
It's their indie wrestling thing.
And she was big in that.
And because I think she lived in Alameda, I think.
My brother's friend works out.
in some gym and she was always in there so he got to talk to her and then started going to her wrestling
and all that my brother met her a couple times too because he wanted he wanted to know if i heard of her
i said yeah man she's hecka big on axte now and he was like oh and then he told me the whole
story so i was like all right cool i guess she is from the bay area but well now i am jealous because
i want to know i was like shit i only been to hood slam once and um it was it was it was crazy
It was it was hood slam, but it was the
The woman's
Hood slam
So it was just all all women's matches that night
I only win because
Was one native wrestler
Dessie Dorada
She's from Vegas. She was down there
I met her when they were wrestling in Albuquerque
At an indigenous Comic Con so I kind of got to know her
I was the only reason I went because she was there
and man
it was crazy other than the matches
were awesome I just love going to
those little indie house shows I mean
it's all standing room only no one's sitting down
there's no chairs and it's just the ring
against the stage and everyone's around it
but the
the wildness that goes on
in between the matches the guy comes out
hypes everyone up he's throwing things
out and he comes out
with this big old bottle of
vodka I guess and he's just
going around the ring
and everyone's got the mouths open
and he's just dumping it.
I was like,
whoa.
It's 21 and over.
No kids are in there.
Their motto is leave your fucking kids at home.
So,
great motto.
It was crazy.
I was like,
oh,
man,
I should have went to more.
I only went to that one.
But now all this shit is happening.
And I was like,
fuck,
man.
I definitely,
hopefully when this is all over with,
they start that back up
because I definitely want to go.
again, it was awesome.
It was just a good time.
Everyone was in there just party in.
Everybody was lighting up because they didn't care.
They don't care in Oaktown.
But it was just like huge clouds of smoke.
You weren't even supposed to smoke in there, but everyone was.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
I definitely want to go to that again.
Nice.
Yeah, everybody definitely, when it's safe to support these indie promotions.
Yeah.
Brian and I did for the East Society, our anchor edition shows, we did, we covered a quick little episode on the Tyson fight.
I got to see that, was there only that one match before?
No, there was a couple of other ones, but I was interested in the main event and the co-main event.
Okay.
Who were those two guys?
There was a white guy and black guy.
Jake Paul is a known.
YouTuber, him and his brother, they both got millions of subscribers.
They'd be doing crazy shit.
And he and his brother started boxing.
And I'm not a fan of theirs personally, but as a fight fan, I see that they actually train and take it seriously.
Nate Robinson is a former NBA player, a former slam dunk champion.
And, yeah, I think this was, basically it was a celebrity boxing.
It was, I don't think, well, definitely after this match, I don't think Nate has a future in boxing.
But, yeah, damn, Nate, I was pulling for you.
Damn.
I didn't know who these guys were.
So I did have to look up that white kid.
And, hey, I mean, I get on the, I get on the.
Mike when I can and I ain't the greatest
but I did not like
what I was hearing
with his rapping stuff
but man
he clocked that full
it only went two rounds and
he dropped
him a couple times and
that last one what was a black
gentleman's name? Nate Robinson
when he got clocked
that last time dude he like slid in the
home plate on his face
if you guys ever seen the fight
You can go to YouTube or wherever it's everywhere now.
Man.
Well, he's officially a meme now.
So he better just like hide somewhere for a couple of years until it cools down.
But once it hits the internet, man, the internet is forever.
So you either just hide or embrace it and just all right, whatever.
Oh, man.
I felt sorry for him, man, because he just dropped.
man, he looked like Apollo Creed lane there.
Man, he was dead.
I felt bad.
Yeah, he didn't want to be in there.
That first knockdown in round one, that that was a shot to the back of the head.
So that was an illegal blow.
But it just seemed like every time after that he was getting hit, he was looking for a way out of there.
And it's bad when you get knocked down and then you just land face first.
not moving.
And like I said, since then, he's officially become a meme.
I've seen plenty of them.
50 Cent had the best one since he was,
Nate was a former NBA player.
He just took the outline of his body laying there
and replaced him with the NBA logo.
Oh, damn.
Yeah, I saw a bunch of them and a bunch of videos
with a lot of commentary over it.
check out crime faces on
Instagram that guy is hilarious with his
commentaries and he did one on that
it was hilarious
I was dying do you follow crime faces
no but I will definitely check them out now
and these these Paul brothers
they're talking a little reckless
just a little bit
rumor is they're trying to the older brother
they're trying to set up a celebrity one with him
in Mayweather.
And then this guy, Jake,
after the fight, he was calling
Alconnor, which that will never happen.
Don't get
a, don't let your head get too big,
man, because these real
fighters are coming there and they'll let
you talk all your shit. And then when they get in the ring
and they knock you out, don't be crying.
I know I wouldn't get in that ring with anybody.
I mean, I've been in plenty of fights, but
my fight career is over with.
So every now and then I got to come out of retirement, but I'm fine if I never fight again.
But my young years, my young years, everyone.
Yeah, I got a few left in me, but I got I got daughters, so I'm saving them.
Yeah, you got to pick your fights.
Not saying the fighting is good for you, young listeners.
Try to walk away from it, but sometimes they follow you.
and then you got to drop them.
But, hey, again, pick your battles.
Sometimes words don't work.
Yep.
All right.
Let's get into this movie.
2020's action comedy, Christmas adventure, Batman.
There is a rising number of our youth for making poor decisions.
You just rest of big time.
What's the job?
I'm like you to kill Santa Claus.
This is what people actually think about.
I'm looking for the fat man.
You can't be serious.
I've come through your head.
You think you're the first?
Fat man.
Rated R.
Let's go with the Google synopsis to save his declining business.
Chris Kringle, also known as Santa Claus, is forced him to partnership with the United States military, making matters worse.
Chris gets locked into a deadly battle against a highly skilled assassin hired by a precocious 12-year-old after receiving a lump of coal in his stocking.
That just told the whole movie.
Yeah, it did.
IMDB, a rowdy, unorthodox Santa Claus is fighting to save his declining business.
Meanwhile, Billy, a neglected and precocious, they like to use this word, 12-year-old, hires a hitman to kill Santa after receiving a lump of coal in his stocking.
this stars of course as Chris Kringle
Mel Gibson
The hitman is played by Walton Goggins
And Marianne
Jean Baptiste
I believe was Mrs. Claus
Let's see who else we got here
Chance
Hersfield was the kid
Robert Boxdale
Eric Wolfe
Susan Stetius
Deborah Glover
and a bunch of other people
this was directed
by a couple of guys
I believe they're brothers so
forgive me I'm going to try to
pronounce their name
Isham Nelms and Ian Nelms
this is produced by Todd Courtney
Nadine DeBarrows, Brandon James
Michelle Lang
Robert McKinnsey's
Liso Wollofsky
that's a lot of people
producing
written by the Nelms Brothers also.
This just recently came out in November.
So, Nez, what did you think of Fat Man?
All right.
I haven't seen Mel Gibson since, what, Expendables 3?
Was that the last one he was in?
I think he was the last one.
For me, it might have been get him to the Gringo.
I didn't see that one.
he came out with a bunch of
films
after that.
Yeah,
Expendables 3.
Oh,
Daddy's Home 2.
That was the last thing
I seen him in.
That was it.
He was funny in that.
To me,
Mel Gibson,
he's a good actor.
I mean,
nothing to take away from that.
Yes.
And his personal life,
he got a little wacky
and a little mean.
But he's still
an act.
He's still,
I thought he didn't
an awesome job in this film.
Everybody in it was good.
And the little kid, Billy Wienin' Chance Hertzfield, I hate that kid.
And Walt Goggins is badass in every role he takes.
Mrs. Claus, Ruth, where have I seen her?
She looked familiar.
I know I seen her in something, but I can't remember.
Well, Robocopped the remake.
I don't remember her in that.
man
She was the captain
She was what
The captain
And Robocop
The remake
Oh okay
All right
All right
Yeah
But man this movie was
Fucking awesome
I loved it
I wasn't expecting much
I just thought it was gonna be
I mean I watched the trailer
But I didn't know too much about it
I really didn't
Get into it
I just thought it was gonna be
a shoot-em-up movie and just tied it in with a Christmas theme.
But started it, watched it, didn't realize it was going to be a comedy as well.
And all the comedy in it was funny.
Mel Gibson just did, I thought he did an amazing job as Chris and, again, Walt Goggins,
he's badass in every role he takes.
But man, I loved this movie.
This is definitely going to get, we played every day.
Christmas season once it comes out on Blu-ray, but I loved it. It was awesome. I can't wait to
watch this movie again. It is playing in the theater where I'm at, but I'm just not ready
to go into the theaters yet. I kind of wished I would have saw this on the big screen because it
was good. I loved what they did. The story was awesome. I never got bored.
I don't think it drug anywhere.
I mean, it kept, it's not very long.
It's like hour and 40 minutes.
But it keeps your attention and it keeps the story going.
It's a totally different Santa Claus that you got done.
Not the lovable, jolly old St. Nick that we all know and love.
Now, this is something else.
But he's still Santa Claus.
He's still Chris Kringle.
And I love that.
He doesn't look like the big jolly fat man that we know.
He just looks like an old rugged.
Mel Gibson, but man, this movie was awesome. I loved it. Yeah, I agree with you. I thought everybody
was great in it. The action we get in it is good. I like the whole setup with Chris Kringle.
You know, Santa Claus is real in this world. Everybody knows him. And I like how because kids are just
fucking bad as fuck nowadays. Like his business is declining. He's giving out coal. He needs he needs to get
alone. He needs to help get help from the government. He doesn't want to. Um, I like
Walton Goggins as the assassin because he just kind of, he kind of had a little, little creepiness
to him. But at the same time, I like the whole backstory of him, uh, not getting what he wanted,
because he, he kind of had this vendetta against Santa Claus. And he was just, he, when he got this
job, he was just so excited because this, you know,
This is what he's been waiting for to get revenge.
And the kid, I agree with you.
Fuck this kid.
He was horrible.
Not his acting, but just the kid in general.
Little rich, little shit.
And, man, I have fun with this.
And, yeah, I can't wait to break this movie down.
The budget was $20 million and the box office was $431,000 or,
and some change.
I don't know how many screens it was on again.
We're in a pandemic, so I'm sure they'll make its money once it makes his money back once it hits the physical media or just, you can rent it now.
So I assume people are seeing it that way as well.
But man, just again, this every fucking moment of this.
of this film.
I watched it on my phones.
I wish I would have watched it on my TV.
But,
oh, man,
it was awesome.
I mean,
what I loved about it was,
it's a totally different holiday story.
I mean,
it does take place in the beginning,
in Christmas,
and then it's after Christmas
when all hail breaks loose up in North Peak.
It wasn't the North Pole.
The town is called North Peak.
They were in Alaska.
weren't they?
That's what it said, but
I never heard of North Peak.
I mean, it could exist, but
I live in the city, so
I don't know these smaller towns.
Ah, yeah. Okay, here's the plot.
Chris Cringle lives with his wife, Ruth,
and runs his Christmas present shop
on a farm near the town of North Peak, Alaska.
With his income on the decline, because too many children
turning into vicious,
the United, into vicious.
Okay.
The United States government who maintains an interest share in Chris's business sends Captain Jacobs to propose a two-month contract for producing components for a new jet fighter for the U.S. military.
Liaison agents override Christmas his giving by virtually threatening to withhold the government's subsides, but Ruth manages to restore his spirits.
All right.
That's the plot of this film.
Yeah, I mean, I mean, this has a lot of truth.
in it. I mean, dealing with
bad kids.
I'm not saying
my kids were the greatest, but
they're at least listen
to me and they're living good, their good
lives right now. But
man, I mean, there is some badass
kids out there. Even in my day, man,
some of my friends were badass kids. Hey, I was bad too,
but I knew my limits.
I didn't want to get my ass beat by my mom more than
I needed to. But
I mean, it was true, though, man.
I mean, Santa Claus was just like,
his business wasn't what it was.
I mean, like an elf, everybody was just losing that Christmas spirit.
I mean, the Christmas spirit was still there in this film,
but it was just too many bad kids.
So he was like nobody, they weren't doing,
they weren't producing what they could have
because they weren't making that much,
that many toys for the kids.
So I loved his workshop.
It was just, and the fantasy came,
in when his whole shop
is run by elves.
I wasn't expecting that. I mean, the way
the movie was going in the beginning, I was kind of like,
okay, it's just a guy and his
wife. And then he goes
into the shop and there's all the elves.
Pointy ears and the little
pointy shoes with the bells on it.
I love
the, when they're talking
to the, I don't know what he was a general
or something, but a captain
and they were given a
explanation on why they live so long
and work because of all the sugar and the
20 minute naps they take.
I know because there was a scene when they went in
and they were, the hells was a break time.
They were having lunch or dinner or whatever.
They were just cooking.
They had cookies and candy and pies and cakes.
And they were just putting sugar on top of sugar
and drinking like orange soda.
And I was like, damn.
I mean, that made my teeth hurt.
But yeah, that captain was like,
you guys should have three,
well-balanced meals
that's why you're all so small
and look at your skin color
you got to get out and get some exercise
but so
I mean Santa Claus and his wife
he was just a grumpy old man
because of what was going on
we're trying to just
make ends meet so we can have
a Christmas next year
so he goes out
Christmas Eve and he does his
what he does drops off presents
and everything.
What I liked about Mel Gibson's
Chris Kringle is he was just
how he looks.
I don't think they needed to do much to him
other than just put a...
He didn't have the regular
Santa Claus suit.
Yeah, he had a red coat on,
but then he just had like a winter cap on,
and he just had some jeans and some Sorrells.
And he had a sleigh.
I wish I would have showed that,
but they didn't.
And then he just goes,
all right, I'll see you tomorrow.
And this was a drink.
in Santa. He had a little flask with him.
So he went
and delivered presents. They didn't show any of this.
Christmas morning.
Alcohol and cookies.
Yeah. He comes back home
and he's holding his side
and then he goes in the bathroom
and when he pulls up a shirt
he's got like, it's bleeding.
Like something happened to him
he dumps alcohol
peroxide or whatever on it.
And he cleans himself up and goes, lays down by his wife
and he's there, everything all right.
And he goes, ah, yeah, whatever, whatever kids got out there hunting rifles and took a few
shots at me, puts a couple holes in the sled.
And one of them got me in the side.
I was like, damn.
I wasn't expected all that.
Yeah.
And he says, because she was like, let me help you out.
And he was like, no, let me heal the regular way.
So in this version of Santa Claus, he gets hurt.
He can essentially, like, heal himself like Wolverine.
That's what I thought, because later when they show him after he gets it on with his claws,
they don't show it.
And he's got laying there with no shirt on and he's got all these scars on them.
They're all healed up.
And I look like that side, his side healed up and everything.
So he was all good.
Uh, we're also, we're introduced to, uh, Billy Wienin.
He's, uh, Chance Hertzfield and his grandmother, what was her name? Um, remember, it just called
grandma.
I think they just call, I think he called her grandma and I think everybody called her Mrs. Wienin.
I don't know.
She on here?
I don't even see her.
Doesn't seem like it.
Yeah, she's not even in, uh,
credit. So if she is, we're missing.
Anyway, he's living with, he lives with his grandma.
His dad is out on business.
I think he was in the Bahamas with his girlfriend, he said.
But this little kid, we know, he's like,
obviously, he's a spoiled little rich kid,
wears suits and ties when he goes to school.
He entered the science fair.
And he was, he's a spoiled little brat, first of all.
He just always gets his way.
He doesn't get best in show at the science fair,
so he gets all bent out of shape about that.
And then what this little motherfucker does,
he hires a hitman, a hitman to go after the girl that won the science fair.
Yeah, not just a hitman, a hitman that he uses,
you get the feeling he uses quite regularly.
Because he tells the driver when he gets into the car to call our friend, I have another job for him.
I was like, wait, what?
Because Walgoggins, he's just a hitman for hire.
He's labeled Skinny Man, but they said his name, but that was later on in the film.
So, Walgagan kind of just loads up and then goes and captures this girl.
brings them
before when we were introduced
to Walt Goggins character
he's already on an assignment
he's in someone's house
and his phone's blowing up and he kind of
looks at it and sees his call
and then he just, you see this old couple
laying in the bed and then
he pulls his gun out with
silencer on it and then y'all he was
and then he's walking out of the house
they don't show him to shoot him but
he kills these two people in the bed and that's
when he gets the call
from, I assume, the driver, Billy's driver.
And then he finds out the mission and what he's supposed to do to go pick up this girl.
That was funny.
I mean, I thought that was hilarious because when he goes to that girl's house.
No, he didn't go to her.
He went to her house, didn't he?
Or did he?
No.
He kidnapped her.
Because then he brought her.
Yeah, he kidnapped her.
He kidnapped her and brought it to Billy's house.
And then we had her in the basement all tied up.
And then Billy came down like he was going to give her the joltz of electricity.
But then they were just trying to scare.
It's basically saying that, look, you're going to go to school and you're going to say you cheated and I'm going to get the ribbon.
The best in show ribbon.
And then so they go, all right, untire, take her home.
So when Skinny Man takes her home and goes, all right, look, you need to just stick to what we told you to say.
and if you don't, here's your phone.
Basically, I know where you live.
I'm going to kill your parents.
I'm going to kill your dog and all this.
Yeah, because he's like, what's your dog's name?
And then she tells him he was like, I'll fucking kill him too.
Yeah, I was like, whoa.
So, I mean, he doesn't do nothing there.
He's just, all right, here, going out.
So the next day, or no, that kid gets a phone call from school saying that he won.
So he's like, okay, cool, right on whatever.
Yeah, he actually, you know, he gets a letter in the mail,
and then he gets the ribbon they sent to him.
So Christmas morning comes, or, yeah, Christmas morning comes,
Billy runs downstairs to check his presence.
He sees a big box, and it says from Santa.
He opens it up, and then he's like, fuck, he doesn't cuss.
But he, like, gets all mad.
He runs outside and screams and then throws something down.
into lump of coal.
And so he's just super pissed.
He calls up the skinny man again and gives him the assignment to hunt down Santa Claus and kill him.
I was like, okay, I love where this story is going.
Yeah, which earlier we see that he collects things that are authentically made from Santa's workshop.
Like, he has a whole room of things that he buys from people.
Like, he just, he's obsessed with Santa Claus.
That's what I didn't get.
I mean, was there reasons?
I mean, they didn't really explain why he was collecting all that stuff.
He was essentially buying stuff.
I guess he blamed Santa Claus for him not having a great childhood.
and when we get to that scene later on in the movie
Santa Claus has an answer for him
but essentially I felt like he was buying his childhood back
with all these toys
yeah because we're talking about the skinny man
Walt Goggins character
he is sitting in a room and some guy comes in with a baseball bat
and then he's looking at it he's examining it
and then at the bottom of the bat
by the handle
there's a little plaque on it said what's say made by santa or santa's workshop
yeah so he offers that guy that guy wanted what two grand or something for it and then he
goes i'll give you nine hundred dollars that's not even half i'll give you nine hundred dollars
um obviously that guy took it because he had the bat and then he puts it in uh his little
uh collector's room with a bunch of other things all everything bagged up and he but yeah he was
buying a lot of authentic toys that were made at Santa's Workshop.
So I don't really go into an explanation on that until later on.
But I like that.
I mean, they really thought about this story.
They didn't just want to have it be some assassin, no-name assassin go kill Santa Claus.
I mean, there was plenty reasons other than the kid's reason, Billy's reason, for getting a lump of coal.
and then the skinny man had his reasons for what he was doing.
I mean, in this, I mean, like we're told, Santa Claus sees everything.
He knows when you've been good.
He knows when you've been bad and all that.
So I like that.
The other thing I liked about this version of Santa,
he knew everybody's name.
Yeah.
Because there's a single thing.
Go ahead.
Oh, are you talking about the scene in the bar?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he goes to this bar when he comes into town because he has to, you know, check his PO box because, you know, kids write Santa.
And he always stops off at this bar and he's he's friends with the bartender.
And she's talking to one of the customers and they're talking about meeting up later.
And he's just staring at the guy.
And then as soon as she leaves to go in the back to do something.
something, he kind of scoops over and calls him out by his name because, you know,
Santa knows everybody's name. And he's asking, how are the wife and kids? And basically,
if I was you, I would go home to my wife and to your wife and kids. And that's basically
how it is. And, you know, he, he knows everything. Santa knows your name. And apparently he knows
if you have a wife and kids to go home to. Yeah, because he even said his wife's name.
Hey, I was Jessica doing.
That guy was like, what?
That was awesome.
I mean, after that, I mean, later on, when Santa's around other people, he was calling everyone out by their name.
So I thought that was cool.
But, so when we're back at the, at Santa's workshop up in,
North Peak, Alaska, is where they're at.
These guys and suits and an army guy, captain,
they come up and they're explaining to him
because when Chris went into town to get his mail,
he got a check.
And it was only half of what, I guess, what he usually gets.
So, I mean, these people, I mean,
they know they're the military.
And I don't know who these other people were.
I assume they were working either for or with the military to help him out with them.
I think there were maybe someone from the government to give him money to help.
Well, I guess basically they were paying Santa to be Santa to help him to help him give, by the material to make the toys and everything, keep his workshop going.
but the check that he got since Christmas
it hasn't been very good
he was like shit this is only half of what you're supposed to pay me
where's the rest of it and they're like well
that's all you're going to get now because
Christmas is losing its spirit
so they go so but this is what we're going to do
and then that's when the captain stepped in they said look we need you guys
we need your workshop for two months
this is a job you guys can do it because
your workers are super fast
meaning the elves.
Obviously the elves can work hell of fast
because they can crank out toys
basically for the whole world.
So they go, okay, we're going to use your shop
and they were going to make
some components
for the new jet fighter
for the military.
I think it was like the F-29 or something like that.
They set it on one of the boxes
when they were loading everything up into the Shanta's shop.
So we're going to come up here.
You guys are going to build all these parts for us.
And we're basically going to turn this into a little military installation because there was military, other than the officers, a bunch of soldiers were around protecting and everything.
Because they said there's got to be soldiers here 24 hours a day in the shop to protect what you guys are making.
So Santa was like, he was already backed into a corner.
He was like, well, all right, man, we'll do it because they needed the money.
So, all right, man, do what you got to do.
So Santa kind of went into his workshop and made an announcement to all his workers.
This is when we see the elves.
So I was like, whoa, I was blown away.
I mean, I loved it.
It was awesome because when we see the elves, they're little people and with the point of ears and everything.
So he kind of comes in, okay, guys, we had a good year.
We do have time to make toys, but we're going to be doing this for the military.
So here's Captain, whatever his name was.
And Captain Jacobs, he's going to be the one running the show while we're doing this.
So, all right, let's just do what we got to do.
And then we'll continue business as usual.
Yeah, it was only a two-year contract.
Oh, okay.
How was I thinking two months?
It might have been two months.
what is it say
Chris business
sends Captain Jacobs to propose a two
month contract for producing
Yeah okay two months
So they're like
All right
So they're going okay
So the military comes in
They start to bringing in all their gear
For the stuff for the elves to make
And they go okay
We gotta do some things
Everyone's got to have their hand scanned
Everyone's got to have a
ID badge with your name on it
And we need to cut
All the bells off
your little pointy shoes because it'll set off the metal detector.
I was like, weak.
They show all the little elves putting their feet up and there's someone with scissors
cutting off all the bells off of their shoes.
The thing that thought was going to happen is there was going to be a revolt with the
elves and not want to do this.
But they were like, all right, whatever.
I mean, they were just going with the flow.
Yes.
Didn't want to argue, didn't want to question.
why we're doing this now.
It just, all right, man, we're working, we're getting paid.
Let's do this.
Because, I mean, one of the reasons why Chris took on the contract, I mean, running his
work, his Santa's workshop is basically a job for the L's.
And he says, I got to pay my workers, but with all the money you guys are giving me
isn't enough.
So that's when he was like, all right, well, we kind of have to do this military contract.
other than they were just going to get it because the elves worked super fast.
So that's why they brought them up there to do it.
There was no really any explanation on exactly what part they were making.
That was just, okay, this is what you're supposed to do.
So why they were doing that.
All during this, this is when Billy hires the skinny guy to go after Sandy.
Look at me, I got another mission for you.
I want you to kill Santa Claus.
And he was kind of like, wait, what?
He believed in Santa because of all the things he was collecting from people.
But killing Santa isn't as easy as the sounds.
Because he was like, he didn't know where to begin or where he lived.
Because he got on the phone.
The skinny guy got on the phone was talking to the operator.
Like he was looking at maps and everything trying to find.
where Santa lives.
He called up and goes, yeah,
anything up in the North Pole,
is there any islands,
is there any big towns up there?
And he was just talking to some lady on the phone,
and she was kind of like,
well, there's this and there's that.
And then he goes, well, I'm looking for Santa Claus.
And then she hangs up the phone on him.
He's like, fuck.
So the whole time he's trying to just figure out
where Chris Kringle lives.
so during that time
Billy is doing what he's doing
he's actually
he actually stole money from his grandmother
this is how bad his little fucker was
he took
some
were they like
blank checks
yeah blank checks
he took these blank checks
and then he went into his room
had this little
I assume it was like an iPad
type of thing with a light
on it so he
and he had a
copy of whatever, some kind of
statement with his grandmother's signature
on it. So he lit that up.
He saw it. He stuck the check
on top of it so the light flashing
through, he could see through the check and see
her signature and he basically
just traced her signature.
And that is how he was
paying the skinny man to do
the job to go kill Chris Kringle.
So
I thought that was cool. I mean, I like
that I mean that's how bad this kid was he was other than he gets his way he's a spoiled
rich kid stealing from his his sick grandma so her name was Anne Marie and that's
played by Deborah Grover okay so so because she's kind of like sick because she's got
oxygen tubes in her nose and everything she's not bedridden but she's just not
feeling too good in the bed so this kid that's is this plot
This is the plan here.
Here's the money.
Go kill Santa Claus.
So this is when the scheme man was doing all his research and trying to figure out where, where to start and how can I find him.
No, but it was before he got to the mail.
He was just kind of just thinking he was at a dead end and anything you can get anywhere.
He was watching something on TV or on his laptop and he noticed Santa Claus getting letters.
So he was like, fuck, all right, whatever.
So he found some postman out delivering and he asked him,
hey, where do you guys send all the mail that goes to Santa Claus?
It's supposed to go to the North Pole.
And that mailman was like, well, we usually get it all.
Then we kind of take it to wherever and drop it off.
And he goes at another downtown mail post office.
And he was, yeah, we put it all there.
All those letters go there.
And then I don't know what they do after that.
So he's like, okay, cool, thanks.
So, I mean, skinny guy is trying to erase his tracks.
So what does he do?
Takes out the mail.
They don't show it.
They just show him pull out his gun and pointing at him.
And the next thing you know, we see the skinny man driving the mail truck.
He goes to that post office downtown.
I believe he talks to, like, the postmaster and talks to him, like, where do you guys send these letters?
You know, like, oh, well, we send them up to North Peak.
And he goes, well, do you ever address?
He goes, like, no, it's just a post office box.
So he's like, all right.
So he kind of figures that out.
But, again, trying to erase his tracks, he ends up killed in the postmaster.
Which I thought was cool.
There was lots of comedy in it to me because when he was killing people, it was actually funny.
So he finally figures out where he's going to go or at least get to the area where he thinks Santa Claus is.
So he kind of jumps in his car and makes his way through Canada and ends up in Alaska.
So during while he's doing that, Santa is still trying to just feel.
figure out what they were going to do.
The Army and the elves are still building the components for the jet fighters.
Skinny Man finally gets up to North Peak.
He goes to the post office where the post office box was because that was the information he got from the postmaster.
And he went in there and kind of was asking the other postmaster that was working there.
He was asking him, like, where, hey, I'm looking for a friend of mine.
he lives
this is his post office box
and I just want to know
if you know where he lives
and they're like
oh they're like Chris
and they're like yeah him
and he's like uh
well we don't we don't really know
he comes in here every other day
to get his mail and that's
about much as we know
yeah I think they say they don't even know
his last name
yeah he was they just knew him as Chris
I mean again this is a different Santa
He doesn't have the rosy nose and the rosy cheeks.
He just looks like a rugged old mountain man.
Yeah.
A grouchy Mel Gibson.
Yeah.
Because he was.
He was crabby.
He did the whole thing.
So he's kind of like, oh, okay.
So when he's leaving, a lady comes in because he's dropping off a letter or a package or something.
It was the bartender.
Yeah, that's right.
So they're like, oh.
And he was like, hey, is he still driving that green Chevy and the bartender?
No, it's a red Ford.
Yeah, that's it.
So he's like, all right, I know what he drives.
I know he's up here because these people see him.
And he comes to the post office.
They said like every other day.
So now he's posted up outside.
Yeah, full steak out.
Because, I mean, he's eating.
He's pissing in bottles and everything.
Just a full stakeout going.
He goes to a, I don't want of those little, not a military, not a sporting, I guess it was a sporting good store.
He goes in there and he's trying to buy some clothes to help him.
Basically, it would be some winter wear, winter gear because it was snowing where there were.
So he goes into there and he buys this snazzy, all white, big coat and pants, snow pants and everything.
and some cross-country skis.
The only reason I know that is because the skis were really long.
So he's sitting outside.
He's got all his gear.
He's waiting.
He's waiting.
And here comes Santa.
He pulls up in a truck.
He goes in, gets his mail.
He's all happy because he got that check, that military check.
And it's like more than enough money to keep the shop going.
So he's all super-duper happy and friendly and everything.
Even everybody in the post office are kind of like looking at him.
weird because usually he comes in on mean and grumpy.
So he's leaving.
He goes outside to get in his truck.
The skinny man is across the street in his car.
This is all during broad daylight.
I don't know how nobody saw him,
but he's pointing this big ass hunting rifle with a silencer out of his window
trying to take aim at Santa.
But then his big semi gets in the way.
So he's like, fuck.
So he,
Santa takes off and then he ends up following him all the way home.
So he's kind of like, all right, so he knows the area where he lives.
So he kind of gears up and then he goes and gets all his gear, new gear he got,
and then he heads into the woods towards Santa's workshop.
Back at the back of the shop, business as usual, elves are doing what they got to do.
This is when they show the scene when they're all eating cakes and cookies and pies and everything
and the military guys talking to him.
the elf that's the foreman he goes his name is elf seven all the elves just had numbers
and i liked that i thought that was cool i liked elf seven he was he was all about business he was
about that this is what we need to do this is what we're gonna do and they ain't gonna be no
fucking around because yeah that's when they said that when they had that conversation about that
that they need to eat better and he said now we only get 20 20 minute naps and we're all good
Yeah, 20 minute naps for like every eight-hour shift.
Yeah.
Every time the Ls were on screen, it was funny.
I mean, especially number seven.
He was just strictly business.
And it was always funny when he was talking and everything.
So here comes a skinny man.
He is, he finds a workshop.
He's lurking around.
And that's when he noticed.
He didn't know this.
All this military stuff was going.
going on up there. But when he looks in, as in he sees the soldiers patrol in the area.
He takes out the first two soldiers that are basically at the, I assume at the front gate
because he throws it or he slides one of his skis into it and they kind of run around to see
what it is and then they both get taken out. So he makes his way past them and then finally
gets to the workshop. The workshop is pretty much all out in the open. Big old giant bunker
type of thing for a building or barn thing for the military
also has his reindeer and everything over there
so this is when he just starts taking out
every soldier he can see I love this from from this point
of the whole movie but from this point on to the end was just
a just violent gun gun battle
they got the they got the sirens blaring because there's an intruder
because he took out
geez like I don't know about
eight military guys soldiers
that were walking around patrolling
yeah
go ahead real quick
we we kind of skipped over
the part where he gets Santa
gets his kind of his Christmas spirit back
because Mrs. Claus
gives him a bunch of
pictures of kids that
were happy
had happy childhoods
from getting Christmas gifts like if they got
like a kitchen place that they grew
have to be a chef or different things like that.
And he goes out and does his deliveries and he comes back.
And that's when him and Mrs. Claus bang.
Yeah, because she made this big blanket for him and he was all happy to see her.
And other than he was happy that he got a big check for the military.
He wanted to test out the blanket.
So he beats it up.
And they don't show it.
But they show the aftermath and they're laying there.
Yeah, we didn't need to see it.
No.
I don't think I want to see old Santa Claus banging his wife.
So skinny man is just dusting every military guy in the way because he just lay with just, it was a blood bath.
And this is all snow.
So there's blood in the snow and everyone's got bullholes on him.
He finally makes it into the workshop.
After he kills more soldiers that were gone on the door, he kind of goes in and he's looking around.
He doesn't know, realize what's happening or what's going on in there.
sees the elves.
So he's like,
fuck,
there's elves.
He's never seen him before.
This part was awesome right here.
He had these little,
he had these little charges,
little bombs that he made.
He throws one into the workshop,
and he's like waiting for it to go off,
and it doesn't go off.
And then he turns and looks at the door,
and there's an elf standing there holding it.
And he goes,
hey,
a little guy.
And then the elf was like,
well,
who are you?
he goes
Are you want a Captain Jacobs man
He goes yeah
I'm one of Captain Jacobs a man
And he goes
Um
I don't think you want to hold that
I think you should put it down
And then he realized it was a bomb
He goes uh
And I think you should just put that down
And then the elf looks at him
The elf knows what it is
So he goes
Why don't you give it to me
And then like with the quickness
within like half a second.
This elf just takes that whole bomb apart.
Pulls the guts out and everything.
I mean, so it won't blow up.
I had to watch that seat a few times.
I was a hell, buddy.
And it makes sense because they can build pretty much anything.
So, of course, they can take things apart.
He took it apart hell of fast.
It was just did-da-da-done, and it was already in pieces.
And then it's like those scenes you see,
when people like take guns apart super fast.
It was like that.
He didn't even look at the thing.
He was looking straight at the skinny man.
He just took it apart.
And then he goes running.
And then there's when the skinny man runs in there.
And it just starts lighting fools up.
I was glad he didn't kill any of the elves because all the hells were,
everybody was screaming and running for the lives.
But all the military guys that were in there, he was blasting and killing all of them.
Number seven makes it over to the little.
little um, uh, a little radio box type of thing. And he, and he radio, he radio Santa telling him,
we got a code yellow or, or whatever he said. And then so like, so Santa jumps up,
pulls his pants on, uh, pulls out this box from under his bed. He's got a pistol and some
kind of shotgun in there. So he loads up, gets his clothes on, and then he heads for the shop.
Uh, the elves are basically running for their lives and they're just trying to hide. Um,
I was, I was glad that, uh, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't,
Because there was bullet fire going everywhere
because other than the skinny man was firing,
the soldiers were shooting on him as well.
Even Captain Jacobs got in on the action.
He was out there firing away at the skinny guy.
I mean, the skinny guy, he had some high-powered rifle
with a silencer on it.
But he was just letting fools have it.
He was just laying them down, left and right.
Elves were all running for their lives.
They kind of made it into this safe part of the workshop.
And there was a metal door, so they locked it and hit in there.
number seven is by
Captain Jacobs
and he's like come on come on let's go
so but that's when the elf called Santa
set off the alarm
and everything everybody was running for the lives
so he
he kind of gets away
Captain Jacobs they're like kind of running outside
and then he ends up getting dusted
by the skinny guy
he's running and he takes a few shots to the back
so he goes down.
So the skinny man kind of runs outside
and he's standing there
and he's firing at more soldiers
and then he hears, hey!
And then you look up and you see Santa
standing on top of the hill.
And he's looking at him
and then he starts walking towards him
and then he looks at him.
And this is when Santa Claus
calls the skinny man
calls him out by name.
And
What the hell was his name?
Jonathan Miller.
Yeah.
He calls him Jonathan Miller.
And he goes, I know you had basically not a good life.
So, I mean, because again, Santa could see everything.
So they're standing there staring at each other.
And then the skinny man pulls out this little hot wheel, like a police car.
And tell him, he goes.
this is all you, this is the last thing you gave me.
And then that, that was a lot of, of the reason why he probably took this job as the
frustration that, uh, uh, Santa.
Yeah.
And Santa, Santa, Santa tells him, like, the one thing he couldn't do was give him new
parents.
Yeah, because he said, he goes, I can do pretty much everything but that.
So he, I mean, uh, skinny man was just mad.
So he's like, fuck it.
And then he just pulls out of his rifle.
and just starts firing at Santa.
Santa pulls out his side arm.
He's letting off around shooting at him.
They end up ducking behind this big woodpile
and having like a gunfight.
Santa Claus is hiding behind a car up on the hill,
so they're just both shooting back and forth at each other.
So Santa was waiting for the skinny guy to reload
because he kind of bends down and starts reloading.
Santa Hall's ass runs down towards them
and hides the...
They're hiding behind the...
fast. Yeah, he was. They were hiding behind a big
wood piles, chopped up wood,
big wood stacks. They were hiding behind
those. So they were looking,
and so they were kind of creeping around each other.
Santa runs and his
skinny guy in the face
with a log, and then they kind of get into a battle.
What did he say to him right here? I don't remember.
Because they were talking for a minute.
I cannot remember. I know. I know
what you're talking about right before they come
around the side of the wood
pile. I can't remember what he says.
Yeah, because
then they
start getting into a fight.
So they're kind of roughing each other
up. But it says right here, Chris faces
off against Miller and
gains the upper hand, but Miller first
wounds Chris with a leg mounted
spring blade
and then shoot him.
Oh, okay, wait, let me hold up right there.
He's got, this
skinny man's got some kind of
blade, kind of like a
bayonet blade in his
he made this little
contraption to where it was on his
foot or on his leg.
So when
Santa Claus and the
skinny man were fighting, he
lets out that blade.
And well, basically, he
took the, he took both of his guns. Santa Claus
took both of the skinny man's guns.
His rifle, his
pistol and he kind of throws it away
and they're kind of like talking
to him and Chris Santa Claus
is basically just ringing him out
and then
the skinny guy he lets off
he opens
he makes that blade pop out
and then he stabs Santa on the
side Santa, he falls down
for a minute he's like fuck
and then he stabs him in the back
and it goes like all the way through him
basically from the back and it comes
out big this big huge
long blade and it comes out of the
front of him. So he's like
oh fuck so he kind of falls down to the
ground. The skinny man gets
up and he grabs his
he grabs his gun
that Santa threw away
and then he just kind of holds a gun on him
and looks on him and shoots him in the head.
Was not expecting that.
I wasn't either. I was like
oh fuck. Because when he shoots
him he like gets him right in the eye you just
see blood go out of the back of his head
and just sprays of the ground.
with blood.
Yeah, I wasn't ready for that.
That was a little butt right there.
I mean, that was enough getting the blade to the back and coming all the way through them.
And because it says, yeah, Chris with the leg mounted spring blade and then shoots Santa in the eye, apparently killing him.
Ruth intervenes, Mrs. Claus, and she's shooting at the skinny man.
and then she kind of runs up on him
and then shoots him.
Did she shoot him in a head?
Yeah, the last time.
Oh, well, because when she started letting off shots,
he started shooting back at her.
He shot her a few times.
Yeah, he got her a couple times in the back.
Yeah, and then,
does she shoot him outside or in the house?
Oh, in the house?
Yeah.
Because she runs off, and that's when he hit,
he shot her a few times in the back.
back and then she
rolled into the house, he goes into the house
and then he's kind of looking around
and
when she turns,
they were in the kitchen and then she
just came out of nowhere and shot him, right?
Yeah, and I wasn't
expecting that either.
Yeah, because it says, backtracking
Miller's assignment, he and
Ruth pay a visit. I know, wait a minute.
Where am I?
Ruth intervenes and shoots
Miller dead and because he is
essentially immortal Chris recovers.
I'm just jumping ahead, everyone.
So anyway, so the skinny man follows
Ruth into the house.
She ends up blasting him
with a gun
and then and kills him.
Did she shoot him in a head or just shot him up?
I want to say she shot him in the head
because there was a lot of blood
on the ground.
Because I know she hit him in the neck because when he fell
on the floor on the neck, blood
was just squirting out all over the floor.
so he's dead and then she runs outside
and she runs over to her husband
and she's holding him this is when all the elves
come running out of hiding and they're like fuck
and they're all crying she's crying because he's laying there dead
but then all of a sudden she's like come on come on you're all right
you're all right and then he like kind of
takes a deep breath and starts coughing
so she's all happy that he's still alive
again this is Santa
Claus and he's got magic
magic
uh
Wolverine
healing ability
so
there was one thing
that we skipped
um
this
when the military
first got there
they were unloading
all their gear and everything
and this forklift dropped
uh these big these big
wood crates and now these military soldiers
were trying to pick it up but they couldn't
but then uh
Santa Claus comes over here
hold this gives him his uh his cup of coffee
then he just
ah he'd
flips it over.
So this Santa Claus got superhuman strength.
Super strength, super speed, and can heal like Wolverine and is good with weapons.
And then we didn't even mention the scene when he was hitting a heavy bag with the boxing gloves.
So he's got a little bit of hands too.
That made me think if they do a lethal weapon five, yeah, he's older.
he's much older
Martin Riggs
I can't see Danny Glover
doing it. Yeah, he's the
question.
I mean, if they do do it,
maybe
Danny Glover's son is a cop
now and
something happens to him
and then maybe those two come out of retirement
and just try to
avenge his son or something.
I don't know. That's the only way I could think of it.
Maybe, maybe the most
movie will be
Danny Glover is retired, but
Riggs is not.
And his final year, that's when
he partners with the son.
Yeah, I think, I mean,
Martin Riggs got at least be captain again
by this time.
Yeah, he probably was demoted again.
But I don't know.
I mean, I don't, if they make it, yes,
we'll see it and we'll be here talking about it.
But if they don't,
okay.
Did you ever watch that show?
show, the TV show that's on?
Yeah, I kind of enjoyed it.
I just wish they would have called it something else than Lethal Weptan.
Is it done?
Is it done or?
I think so.
I haven't heard it.
I haven't finished it, but I haven't heard anything about it.
I know the guy that played rigs got replaced because I heard he was not fun to work with on set.
So.
All right.
Replaced him with Stifler.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
I still want to see it.
I haven't seen it yet.
So,
uh,
we,
Santa Claus is alive.
So kind of flash forward.
Uh,
we go to,
uh,
Billy's house.
Uh,
Billy is,
uh,
uh,
in his room.
And,
uh,
no,
we should we see his grandmother.
She's on the phone talking about,
what?
Where's all those money going to?
Who's,
who's,
who's,
who's forging my name?
So Billy's hearing all this and he's like,
well,
okay,
whatever.
So he kind of,
while his grandma is on the phone,
he runs in there.
grabs one of her little pill bottles because she's got like a hundred of them on her nightstand.
And he runs into his room.
He realizes that is why his grandma is looking for the money that he basically stole to give to the skinny man.
So he's like taking these pills apart, little capsules, and then dumping him into onto a piece of paper and he poured it in her milk.
I can't remember what they said it was.
It was because when Santa Claus comes in, he drinks the night.
milk and he's like, ah, fentanyl, that would have did the trick.
Yeah, so, because yeah, when he, uh, someone comes knocking on the door and, uh, the,
I assume she was the maid.
She opens up and looks and then, uh, she's knocking on the door.
Hey, Billy, uh, someone's here to see you and goes, I tell you not to leave.
I told you to leave me alone.
Don't bother me.
And then the door opens and here comes, uh, Ruth, uh, Mrs. Claus.
She's standing there talking to him, basically telling him, basically telling him, you've been a bad
boy and you're about to get something.
And then inwalk Santa Claus,
which I thought I was like,
oh,
that was actually kind of happy.
I mean,
I knew he was hurt and everything,
but he comes walking in.
He's got a big eye patch on.
That's all bloody.
So,
Santa Claus kind of sits down and goes over
Billy's talking about,
this is,
yeah, he drinks the milk and,
and it says the fentanyl.
Which I have questions.
I was like, is that one of your powers you just know drugs or have you done drugs?
He's Santa Claus.
He knows everything.
If he can know everybody's name in the world, even when he first meets him, I'm sure he can, he knows what that drug is.
I figured it would have helped him, if anything, for his injury.
So he basically, shit, what did he tell him?
Okay, what did he say?
Chris Carroll, okay.
backtracking mills of Simon
he and Ruth pay a visit to Billy
warning him that from now on
Chris will come in come for him
and any other kids
if they ever turn against
the fellow human beings again
yeah basically tell him that look
man if you're not going to be a good kid man I'm going to come
here and uh
he didn't say this is so many words
but basically I'm going to come in and kill you
so
I thought that was cool
this was like a perfect ending
I mean, basically Santa came in and scolded him
and telling him that you better live your life good
and clean yourself up or your ass out.
So then it says afterwards, Chris Ruth and the elf crew
start rebuilding their workshop and with renewed confidence.
Yeah, we go back to the North Pole.
We see Santa standing there with Mythets Clause
and he's with L7 and you see that all the elves are hard at work
and they're rebuilding.
the Santa's workshop.
This was something we missed.
Right when the skinny man,
when he came out,
he had another bomb and he threw it
into the Santa's workshop and blew
it all the hell.
It didn't blow it completely.
I kind of just blew basically the front door off
and probably some of the ruling.
So, yeah, this is when we're at the end
is when all the elves are fixing
up to shop and everything.
Santa, happy ending for them.
He's all good.
He's still alive.
He's got a hole in his head and his eyes missing, but he's all good.
Because he told Billy, look, man, I'm going to be watching.
I'm going to keep my eye on you.
And as he's standing there, because when he's standing there talking to Billy, he starts taking off the bandage.
And then he's standing there staring at him.
And then Billy looks over it.
And he's like looking away.
And he goes, look at me.
So that's what he's standing there staring at him.
Then they show Santa Claus and his eyes gone.
But there's like a big whole bloody hole right there.
So, and that's pretty much the end of your film.
We're back up with the North Pole, business as usual, and everyone lives happily ever after.
Except for all the military soldiers that got killed, there must have been about 20 of them that were dead.
And Skinny Man's Dead, too.
But that was your movie.
What are you rating?
I'm giving this a 10.
I loved everything about it.
There wasn't one thing that made me question it or no, no, no, no.
nitpicks or anything. I just thought it was awesome. Yeah, maybe the little
explanation on why the skinny man was collecting all the toys. But they did
explain it, though. He was just sore at Santa. But then again, it was his fault. I mean,
he chose a life of crime. And that's why, and to be bad, that's why he got lumps of
cool. So, but what do you think of this? I'm going to give it a 9.5. I can't give it a 10
because of that little reason I would allow a little bit more explanation,
a little bit more backstory on the skinny man,
but I had fun, awesome film.
Everybody did great in it.
The action was good.
I need a sequel,
and I need a sequel with Billy coming back,
except for one hit man,
he assembles a whole team to come after Santa Claus.
That's what I want to see in the sequel.
What I wanted in this would have probably made it my score higher than it is,
I was hoping that, or maybe Elf 7, or maybe one of the elves would have picked up one of the guns that was laying around and started firing at the skinny man.
Yeah, you can do that in the sequel.
If you got a whole team coming after Santa Claus, you can have him assemble his squad.
You get Elf 7 and I don't know, elf whatever and Ruth, Mrs. Claus can join in.
I mean, there was guns laying everywhere because the skinny man was dropping those soldiers left and right.
So there was fully automatic rifles laying on the ground for anyone to grab.
I was hoping at least L7 would have grabbed one and started letting off some rounds because he was next to Captain Jacobs when he got shot.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, this movie was awesome.
I loved it.
I loved every minute of it.
I mean, it was a total shocker, too.
I did not think it was going to be this good.
I thought it was just going to be, okay, that was cool.
Nice little action.
I mean, there wasn't really much action until the end, but.
It was a nice buildup to it, though.
Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't two hours, like every other movie that didn't need to be that long.
So, yeah.
The movie was, it was well-paced.
It kept your attention, and it moved.
long. It didn't slow down to make you kind of like bored. I mean, I never, I was watching on my phone.
But I mean, even if I was sitting at home watching it on TV, I don't think I would have touched my phone because I was so into the story.
Again, this is a totally different Santa Claus. And it was cool. I liked what they were what they were doing in this.
So, man, I just, yeah, I got to give it a 10. I mean, I loved everything about it.
Probably make my top 10.
Yeah.
I know we didn't go to the movies very much.
Went to the theater a couple times before everything went to hell.
But as far as the movies have been dropping on all these streaming sites, this is definitely one.
I think you guys should check out.
You can rent it on Amazon.
I think it was like $6.99 or something like that.
But, I mean, it's definitely worth it.
that or other means.
And it's definitely getting picked up on Blu-ray.
Oh, hell yeah.
I can't wait for this to come out.
Like I said earlier, this is definitely going to get its love every year,
every time this year to watch this film.
I want my wife to see it.
I was telling her my son, my son, he basically watches everything.
Hey, let's watch this.
All right.
So, but yeah, Fat Man, everyone.
Mel Gibson.
this movie was awesome.
Yeah.
Would it be on one of my favorite Mel Gibson films?
Yeah, I would say.
I mean, other than the Mad Max movies and the Lethal Weapon films.
Well, speaking of Lethal Weapon, over the next couple weeks,
we're going to keep this Mel Gibson train going.
We are going to do the Mel Gibson, Danny Glover,
Lethal Weapon Series, because the first one is the Christmas movie.
movie.
Of course.
So,
all right,
man.
I mean,
I'm,
I'm all for it.
I mean,
yeah,
it made me want to watch.
I watch The Weapon
every holiday season anyway,
as well as Die Hard.
Mm-hmm.
We already covered Die Hard three.
And if anybody don't own lethal weapon and they have HBO Max,
the entire series is on there.
Yep.
So feel free to watch all those and listen.
listen to us break them all down.
I think the third one was my least favorite.
I don't know what it was.
That was the only one I didn't see in the theater.
But we'll get into it more than when we get to that film.
Fat Man, I love, what does this say on the poster?
Fat Man, Tis the season to get even.
Okay.
All right, man.
Tell everybody what you guys got coming up on your side.
All right, everyone.
Skater Nest Podcast Network.
East Society, we haven't done a 200th episode yet.
Things weren't working out for us this week.
We did drop, Brian and I, we did ESP Rewine.
We did the Nicholas,
Joel Schumacher film
1999 Joe Schumacher film
8mmeter definitely go back and listen to that
if you guys haven't listened to it yet
but everyone that did listen to it thank you so much
and I just dropped
what's today
today's the third
December 1st I just dropped
episode 126 of the MacNess
podcast and I am joined by
the host of Native Film Talk
podcast Ian Allen
We had a good conversation talking about his show and just talking about other things.
He's the same tribe as me.
He's from the Navajo Nation.
He was born and raised there.
I'm straight out of Oak Town, but I still represent the Navajo Nation.
But yeah, it was a good conversation for him and I to just talk about this and that as well as this show.
Definitely listen to Native Film Talk.
If you guys listen to the episode, down the show notes, I got all his stuff where you can find him.
His website, his Facebook page, his YouTube channel, Instagram and Twitter, at Native Film Talk.
You can follow him there.
But coming up within the next day or so, I got episode 127 of the Magnus Podcast, and I'm going to be talking to...
Hex's name.
The host for Skodin Cinema.
Sorry, brother.
I already forgot your name.
I want to say Tyler Randall is his name.
Let me.
Yeah, Tyler Randall, the host of Skodan Cinema.
I did an interview with him.
It's all ready to go.
I just got to upload it everyone.
But that'll be happening in the next couple of days.
Hopefully, the Zisu and I can sit down and knock out our time.
200 episode over there.
Yes, I'm going to be talking about this film,
but I'll give them a little short review for it
because I'm going to tell everyone to go listen to this episode.
Well, we really break down the whole movie for you.
Spoilers and all, everyone.
So, but yeah, as far as what's going on with us, that is it.
Over on, the horror returns,
the next couple weeks, we got a Patreon pick episode.
The first one is going to be, what are we reviewing?
The Blobb, the 1988 version, they live, John Carpenter's They Live, and 1993's Freaked, starring Alex Winter.
Of course, you can still listen to the Action Returns episode.
We did our Jiu-Jitsu and hear our feelings about that.
THR presents stream fiends.
episode two is out
Blood for Dracula
Andy Warhol's
Blood for Dracula
Let me hear what we really thought about that one
And of course
We got the lethal weapon
franchise coming up on action returns
And yeah
That's pretty much all we got coming up
Anything else
No man that's it
Thanks everyone for listening
Oh excuse me
Took a drink and went down the wrong pipe.
But yeah, thanks everyone for listening.
And sorry.
Yeah, good night, everyone.
Sorry.
Real podcasting, y'all.
And until the next time, everybody, stay safe, wear your mask, and be good to each other.
