The Horror Returns - The Action Returns -.Ep. #21: Fatman (2020)

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

This episode Brian and Nez put on their winter coats and head to North Peak, Alaska to seek out the big man in the Red coat in 2020's FATMAN.    Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook....com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe it's time I retired the coat. You just need a break. We're all feeling it this year. I've lost my influence. You're an icon. People love you. I'm a silly fat man in a red suit. I mean, you think it's cute, but this is what people actually think of me. Christmas is a farce. I am a joke.
Starting point is 00:00:25 There hasn't been any real spirit of the season anymore. Not for years. everybody to the actual returns this is episode 21 of course i'm your host bryne and with me as always you know him you love them my brother nez what's up man yo man what's happening up there everything down here is it's it's getting there so but how's it up there yeah same nothing's changed just add snow to all the current problems. It's been snowing for like two days and it needs to stop. It really does.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And it's like inches or feet? Inches about to turn into feet. It's snowed here, but it all melted quick. There's snow up in the mountains. Everybody's hitting the slopes. I'm not going to, but, uh, Yeah, they're going up there So, but to each
Starting point is 00:01:53 His own, just be safe If you guys are going to go up on the mountains and slide down But I think I'm going to hopefully next season So, but for now I'm good I'll stay down in the valley But it's just cold here
Starting point is 00:02:12 Gotta make a fire every day Oh, that sounds nice Don't have a fireplace But definitely would have one. So before we get into the movie, you watch anything, anything good lately?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Just Jiu-Jitsu. I checked out saved by the bell, the new Saved by the Bell, that's on Peacock. Yeah, I'm halfway through it. It only gave me one episode. I thought all of it was going to be on there, but are you paying for it?
Starting point is 00:02:51 Yeah, because the wife, there was some shows on there that she wanted to watch that you had to get the premium. So I was just like, why not? You know, I wanted to check out saved by the bell because that was a show when I watched when I was younger. So I'll pay for it, at least for the month. Yeah, I mean, I only got to see the first episode. But what I saw, I mean, it was good. I was shocked. Because that other take on saved by the bell they tried was just garbage.
Starting point is 00:03:25 What I want to wonder is Zach, whatever the hell his name is, is he going to still being it because he's on mixed-dish. And I didn't know if he was just doing this on his off time or what because in mixed-dish. She's got long hair. And it just really is hair. So this, this would look like they cut it and blonde them up unless they just put a wig or something on them. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But the episode I saw, what was the only episode? So the pilot episode, I thought it was good. Um, it was, it was funny. I kept my attention.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Uh, I liked what they're doing now. It's not just, uh, the kids of Bayside. They brought, um, the hood.
Starting point is 00:04:18 to Bayside. And I thought that was cool. So I was like, damn, I want to see the rest. But I want to search other means. And then we'll see how. But what I saw, I liked. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. It's, it's kind of strange because it's like the kids that already went to Bayside.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I kind of compared it to, I was talking to my explaining the saved by the bell to my daughter. And the way the show is now, it's like the kids. kids that are already at Bayside. It's kind of like that movie when they did the Brady Bunch movie, how they were in that time frame in that show. And it's like the kids on in Bayside are like used to this lifestyle, you know, being, you know, rich. And then when the other kids get bust in, it's like the real world is clashing with the,
Starting point is 00:05:11 with the TV Bayside version. And I, I'm, I'm enjoying it right now. And I saw your post. I am full agree with you. I used to be team Kelly, but Jesse has aged quite well and I think I'm switching
Starting point is 00:05:27 teams. Yeah. Kelly, Tiffany, Amber Theson or whatever her name is. She's still beautiful, but I don't know, man. I guess showgirls must do something to her because, man,
Starting point is 00:05:44 Jesse looked. Dr. Jesse Spano. She's hot now She's aged yes as well as Zach and Kelly but Alfred Clifford AC Slater He looks exactly the same He never ages No man he must be a vampire
Starting point is 00:06:05 Oh man but it was good I liked that it's mainly him and Jesse now because Jesse's the Was she one of the counselors? Yeah And AC Slater is the, I assume the football coach, the gym coach. So I thought that was cool. The part that made me laugh the most is when Slater was talking to that black kid when he was trying to get him to join the football team.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And he goes, well, he goes, yeah, he goes, well, he goes, you're Mexican, I'm black. And then AC went, man, thank you, man. He goes, they never bring that up. And that made me think they never did ever mention that he was Mexican unless I missed a miss did but I was like they didn't mention it until the college years So that made me laugh Lard so but I mean it did it's a half hour show so but for what it was it was actually pretty good I mean I that I only saw the one episode but um liked it. I'll definitely check out the rest of it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Just got to search for it, but I'll find it. I know you probably, since you're just getting off work now, you probably haven't seen NXT or AEW. No, I haven't. It's all recorded. Yeah. I kind of got a little hyped in AEW. Somebody debuted. Okay. Don't tell me. Yeah. I was like, I was like, really? Wow. And then NXT, I am hyped for war games this weekend. My girl's captain of her own team, Shotsie.
Starting point is 00:07:51 She got her a nice little, nice little squad together. So definitely looking forward to war games. She can be wearing a helmet? Yep. She got her helmet. And the little promos they've been releasing. She putting her tank back together. Right on.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Speaking of her, she's straight out of Oaktown. And I was talking to my brother the last time I was down there. And one of his friends knows her. She was, they have down in the Bay Area in Oakland, they have hood slam. It's their indie wrestling thing. And she was big in that. And because I think she lived in Alameda, I think. My brother's friend works out.
Starting point is 00:08:39 in some gym and she was always in there so he got to talk to her and then started going to her wrestling and all that my brother met her a couple times too because he wanted he wanted to know if i heard of her i said yeah man she's hecka big on axte now and he was like oh and then he told me the whole story so i was like all right cool i guess she is from the bay area but well now i am jealous because i want to know i was like shit i only been to hood slam once and um it was it was it was crazy It was it was hood slam, but it was the The woman's Hood slam
Starting point is 00:09:19 So it was just all all women's matches that night I only win because Was one native wrestler Dessie Dorada She's from Vegas. She was down there I met her when they were wrestling in Albuquerque At an indigenous Comic Con so I kind of got to know her I was the only reason I went because she was there
Starting point is 00:09:39 and man it was crazy other than the matches were awesome I just love going to those little indie house shows I mean it's all standing room only no one's sitting down there's no chairs and it's just the ring against the stage and everyone's around it but the
Starting point is 00:09:54 the wildness that goes on in between the matches the guy comes out hypes everyone up he's throwing things out and he comes out with this big old bottle of vodka I guess and he's just going around the ring and everyone's got the mouths open
Starting point is 00:10:10 and he's just dumping it. I was like, whoa. It's 21 and over. No kids are in there. Their motto is leave your fucking kids at home. So, great motto.
Starting point is 00:10:23 It was crazy. I was like, oh, man, I should have went to more. I only went to that one. But now all this shit is happening. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:32 fuck, man. I definitely, hopefully when this is all over with, they start that back up because I definitely want to go. again, it was awesome. It was just a good time.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Everyone was in there just party in. Everybody was lighting up because they didn't care. They don't care in Oaktown. But it was just like huge clouds of smoke. You weren't even supposed to smoke in there, but everyone was. Yeah. It was crazy. I definitely want to go to that again.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Nice. Yeah, everybody definitely, when it's safe to support these indie promotions. Yeah. Brian and I did for the East Society, our anchor edition shows, we did, we covered a quick little episode on the Tyson fight. I got to see that, was there only that one match before? No, there was a couple of other ones, but I was interested in the main event and the co-main event. Okay. Who were those two guys?
Starting point is 00:11:33 There was a white guy and black guy. Jake Paul is a known. YouTuber, him and his brother, they both got millions of subscribers. They'd be doing crazy shit. And he and his brother started boxing. And I'm not a fan of theirs personally, but as a fight fan, I see that they actually train and take it seriously. Nate Robinson is a former NBA player, a former slam dunk champion. And, yeah, I think this was, basically it was a celebrity boxing.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It was, I don't think, well, definitely after this match, I don't think Nate has a future in boxing. But, yeah, damn, Nate, I was pulling for you. Damn. I didn't know who these guys were. So I did have to look up that white kid. And, hey, I mean, I get on the, I get on the. Mike when I can and I ain't the greatest but I did not like
Starting point is 00:12:41 what I was hearing with his rapping stuff but man he clocked that full it only went two rounds and he dropped him a couple times and that last one what was a black
Starting point is 00:12:57 gentleman's name? Nate Robinson when he got clocked that last time dude he like slid in the home plate on his face if you guys ever seen the fight You can go to YouTube or wherever it's everywhere now. Man. Well, he's officially a meme now.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So he better just like hide somewhere for a couple of years until it cools down. But once it hits the internet, man, the internet is forever. So you either just hide or embrace it and just all right, whatever. Oh, man. I felt sorry for him, man, because he just dropped. man, he looked like Apollo Creed lane there. Man, he was dead. I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah, he didn't want to be in there. That first knockdown in round one, that that was a shot to the back of the head. So that was an illegal blow. But it just seemed like every time after that he was getting hit, he was looking for a way out of there. And it's bad when you get knocked down and then you just land face first. not moving. And like I said, since then, he's officially become a meme. I've seen plenty of them.
Starting point is 00:14:14 50 Cent had the best one since he was, Nate was a former NBA player. He just took the outline of his body laying there and replaced him with the NBA logo. Oh, damn. Yeah, I saw a bunch of them and a bunch of videos with a lot of commentary over it. check out crime faces on
Starting point is 00:14:38 Instagram that guy is hilarious with his commentaries and he did one on that it was hilarious I was dying do you follow crime faces no but I will definitely check them out now and these these Paul brothers they're talking a little reckless just a little bit
Starting point is 00:14:58 rumor is they're trying to the older brother they're trying to set up a celebrity one with him in Mayweather. And then this guy, Jake, after the fight, he was calling Alconnor, which that will never happen. Don't get a, don't let your head get too big,
Starting point is 00:15:17 man, because these real fighters are coming there and they'll let you talk all your shit. And then when they get in the ring and they knock you out, don't be crying. I know I wouldn't get in that ring with anybody. I mean, I've been in plenty of fights, but my fight career is over with. So every now and then I got to come out of retirement, but I'm fine if I never fight again.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But my young years, my young years, everyone. Yeah, I got a few left in me, but I got I got daughters, so I'm saving them. Yeah, you got to pick your fights. Not saying the fighting is good for you, young listeners. Try to walk away from it, but sometimes they follow you. and then you got to drop them. But, hey, again, pick your battles. Sometimes words don't work.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yep. All right. Let's get into this movie. 2020's action comedy, Christmas adventure, Batman. There is a rising number of our youth for making poor decisions. You just rest of big time. What's the job? I'm like you to kill Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:16:36 This is what people actually think about. I'm looking for the fat man. You can't be serious. I've come through your head. You think you're the first? Fat man. Rated R. Let's go with the Google synopsis to save his declining business.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Chris Kringle, also known as Santa Claus, is forced him to partnership with the United States military, making matters worse. Chris gets locked into a deadly battle against a highly skilled assassin hired by a precocious 12-year-old after receiving a lump of coal in his stocking. That just told the whole movie. Yeah, it did. IMDB, a rowdy, unorthodox Santa Claus is fighting to save his declining business. Meanwhile, Billy, a neglected and precocious, they like to use this word, 12-year-old, hires a hitman to kill Santa after receiving a lump of coal in his stocking. this stars of course as Chris Kringle Mel Gibson
Starting point is 00:17:44 The hitman is played by Walton Goggins And Marianne Jean Baptiste I believe was Mrs. Claus Let's see who else we got here Chance Hersfield was the kid Robert Boxdale
Starting point is 00:18:04 Eric Wolfe Susan Stetius Deborah Glover and a bunch of other people this was directed by a couple of guys I believe they're brothers so forgive me I'm going to try to
Starting point is 00:18:19 pronounce their name Isham Nelms and Ian Nelms this is produced by Todd Courtney Nadine DeBarrows, Brandon James Michelle Lang Robert McKinnsey's Liso Wollofsky that's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:18:35 producing written by the Nelms Brothers also. This just recently came out in November. So, Nez, what did you think of Fat Man? All right. I haven't seen Mel Gibson since, what, Expendables 3? Was that the last one he was in? I think he was the last one.
Starting point is 00:19:00 For me, it might have been get him to the Gringo. I didn't see that one. he came out with a bunch of films after that. Yeah, Expendables 3. Oh,
Starting point is 00:19:13 Daddy's Home 2. That was the last thing I seen him in. That was it. He was funny in that. To me, Mel Gibson, he's a good actor.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I mean, nothing to take away from that. Yes. And his personal life, he got a little wacky and a little mean. But he's still an act.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He's still, I thought he didn't an awesome job in this film. Everybody in it was good. And the little kid, Billy Wienin' Chance Hertzfield, I hate that kid. And Walt Goggins is badass in every role he takes. Mrs. Claus, Ruth, where have I seen her? She looked familiar.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I know I seen her in something, but I can't remember. Well, Robocopped the remake. I don't remember her in that. man She was the captain She was what The captain And Robocop
Starting point is 00:20:14 The remake Oh okay All right All right Yeah But man this movie was Fucking awesome I loved it
Starting point is 00:20:25 I wasn't expecting much I just thought it was gonna be I mean I watched the trailer But I didn't know too much about it I really didn't Get into it I just thought it was gonna be a shoot-em-up movie and just tied it in with a Christmas theme.
Starting point is 00:20:41 But started it, watched it, didn't realize it was going to be a comedy as well. And all the comedy in it was funny. Mel Gibson just did, I thought he did an amazing job as Chris and, again, Walt Goggins, he's badass in every role he takes. But man, I loved this movie. This is definitely going to get, we played every day. Christmas season once it comes out on Blu-ray, but I loved it. It was awesome. I can't wait to watch this movie again. It is playing in the theater where I'm at, but I'm just not ready
Starting point is 00:21:22 to go into the theaters yet. I kind of wished I would have saw this on the big screen because it was good. I loved what they did. The story was awesome. I never got bored. I don't think it drug anywhere. I mean, it kept, it's not very long. It's like hour and 40 minutes. But it keeps your attention and it keeps the story going. It's a totally different Santa Claus that you got done. Not the lovable, jolly old St. Nick that we all know and love.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Now, this is something else. But he's still Santa Claus. He's still Chris Kringle. And I love that. He doesn't look like the big jolly fat man that we know. He just looks like an old rugged. Mel Gibson, but man, this movie was awesome. I loved it. Yeah, I agree with you. I thought everybody was great in it. The action we get in it is good. I like the whole setup with Chris Kringle.
Starting point is 00:22:22 You know, Santa Claus is real in this world. Everybody knows him. And I like how because kids are just fucking bad as fuck nowadays. Like his business is declining. He's giving out coal. He needs he needs to get alone. He needs to help get help from the government. He doesn't want to. Um, I like Walton Goggins as the assassin because he just kind of, he kind of had a little, little creepiness to him. But at the same time, I like the whole backstory of him, uh, not getting what he wanted, because he, he kind of had this vendetta against Santa Claus. And he was just, he, when he got this job, he was just so excited because this, you know, This is what he's been waiting for to get revenge.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And the kid, I agree with you. Fuck this kid. He was horrible. Not his acting, but just the kid in general. Little rich, little shit. And, man, I have fun with this. And, yeah, I can't wait to break this movie down. The budget was $20 million and the box office was $431,000 or,
Starting point is 00:23:37 and some change. I don't know how many screens it was on again. We're in a pandemic, so I'm sure they'll make its money once it makes his money back once it hits the physical media or just, you can rent it now. So I assume people are seeing it that way as well. But man, just again, this every fucking moment of this. of this film. I watched it on my phones. I wish I would have watched it on my TV.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But, oh, man, it was awesome. I mean, what I loved about it was, it's a totally different holiday story. I mean, it does take place in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:24:25 in Christmas, and then it's after Christmas when all hail breaks loose up in North Peak. It wasn't the North Pole. The town is called North Peak. They were in Alaska. weren't they? That's what it said, but
Starting point is 00:24:40 I never heard of North Peak. I mean, it could exist, but I live in the city, so I don't know these smaller towns. Ah, yeah. Okay, here's the plot. Chris Cringle lives with his wife, Ruth, and runs his Christmas present shop on a farm near the town of North Peak, Alaska.
Starting point is 00:24:58 With his income on the decline, because too many children turning into vicious, the United, into vicious. Okay. The United States government who maintains an interest share in Chris's business sends Captain Jacobs to propose a two-month contract for producing components for a new jet fighter for the U.S. military. Liaison agents override Christmas his giving by virtually threatening to withhold the government's subsides, but Ruth manages to restore his spirits. All right. That's the plot of this film.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah, I mean, I mean, this has a lot of truth. in it. I mean, dealing with bad kids. I'm not saying my kids were the greatest, but they're at least listen to me and they're living good, their good lives right now. But
Starting point is 00:25:50 man, I mean, there is some badass kids out there. Even in my day, man, some of my friends were badass kids. Hey, I was bad too, but I knew my limits. I didn't want to get my ass beat by my mom more than I needed to. But I mean, it was true, though, man. I mean, Santa Claus was just like,
Starting point is 00:26:06 his business wasn't what it was. I mean, like an elf, everybody was just losing that Christmas spirit. I mean, the Christmas spirit was still there in this film, but it was just too many bad kids. So he was like nobody, they weren't doing, they weren't producing what they could have because they weren't making that much, that many toys for the kids.
Starting point is 00:26:30 So I loved his workshop. It was just, and the fantasy came, in when his whole shop is run by elves. I wasn't expecting that. I mean, the way the movie was going in the beginning, I was kind of like, okay, it's just a guy and his wife. And then he goes
Starting point is 00:26:50 into the shop and there's all the elves. Pointy ears and the little pointy shoes with the bells on it. I love the, when they're talking to the, I don't know what he was a general or something, but a captain and they were given a
Starting point is 00:27:06 explanation on why they live so long and work because of all the sugar and the 20 minute naps they take. I know because there was a scene when they went in and they were, the hells was a break time. They were having lunch or dinner or whatever. They were just cooking. They had cookies and candy and pies and cakes.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And they were just putting sugar on top of sugar and drinking like orange soda. And I was like, damn. I mean, that made my teeth hurt. But yeah, that captain was like, you guys should have three, well-balanced meals that's why you're all so small
Starting point is 00:27:40 and look at your skin color you got to get out and get some exercise but so I mean Santa Claus and his wife he was just a grumpy old man because of what was going on we're trying to just make ends meet so we can have
Starting point is 00:27:58 a Christmas next year so he goes out Christmas Eve and he does his what he does drops off presents and everything. What I liked about Mel Gibson's Chris Kringle is he was just how he looks.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I don't think they needed to do much to him other than just put a... He didn't have the regular Santa Claus suit. Yeah, he had a red coat on, but then he just had like a winter cap on, and he just had some jeans and some Sorrells. And he had a sleigh.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I wish I would have showed that, but they didn't. And then he just goes, all right, I'll see you tomorrow. And this was a drink. in Santa. He had a little flask with him. So he went and delivered presents. They didn't show any of this.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Christmas morning. Alcohol and cookies. Yeah. He comes back home and he's holding his side and then he goes in the bathroom and when he pulls up a shirt he's got like, it's bleeding. Like something happened to him
Starting point is 00:28:57 he dumps alcohol peroxide or whatever on it. And he cleans himself up and goes, lays down by his wife and he's there, everything all right. And he goes, ah, yeah, whatever, whatever kids got out there hunting rifles and took a few shots at me, puts a couple holes in the sled. And one of them got me in the side. I was like, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I wasn't expected all that. Yeah. And he says, because she was like, let me help you out. And he was like, no, let me heal the regular way. So in this version of Santa Claus, he gets hurt. He can essentially, like, heal himself like Wolverine. That's what I thought, because later when they show him after he gets it on with his claws, they don't show it.
Starting point is 00:29:51 And he's got laying there with no shirt on and he's got all these scars on them. They're all healed up. And I look like that side, his side healed up and everything. So he was all good. Uh, we're also, we're introduced to, uh, Billy Wienin. He's, uh, Chance Hertzfield and his grandmother, what was her name? Um, remember, it just called grandma. I think they just call, I think he called her grandma and I think everybody called her Mrs. Wienin.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't know. She on here? I don't even see her. Doesn't seem like it. Yeah, she's not even in, uh, credit. So if she is, we're missing. Anyway, he's living with, he lives with his grandma. His dad is out on business.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I think he was in the Bahamas with his girlfriend, he said. But this little kid, we know, he's like, obviously, he's a spoiled little rich kid, wears suits and ties when he goes to school. He entered the science fair. And he was, he's a spoiled little brat, first of all. He just always gets his way. He doesn't get best in show at the science fair,
Starting point is 00:31:15 so he gets all bent out of shape about that. And then what this little motherfucker does, he hires a hitman, a hitman to go after the girl that won the science fair. Yeah, not just a hitman, a hitman that he uses, you get the feeling he uses quite regularly. Because he tells the driver when he gets into the car to call our friend, I have another job for him. I was like, wait, what? Because Walgoggins, he's just a hitman for hire.
Starting point is 00:31:54 He's labeled Skinny Man, but they said his name, but that was later on in the film. So, Walgagan kind of just loads up and then goes and captures this girl. brings them before when we were introduced to Walt Goggins character he's already on an assignment he's in someone's house and his phone's blowing up and he kind of
Starting point is 00:32:20 looks at it and sees his call and then he just, you see this old couple laying in the bed and then he pulls his gun out with silencer on it and then y'all he was and then he's walking out of the house they don't show him to shoot him but he kills these two people in the bed and that's
Starting point is 00:32:36 when he gets the call from, I assume, the driver, Billy's driver. And then he finds out the mission and what he's supposed to do to go pick up this girl. That was funny. I mean, I thought that was hilarious because when he goes to that girl's house. No, he didn't go to her. He went to her house, didn't he? Or did he?
Starting point is 00:32:59 No. He kidnapped her. Because then he brought her. Yeah, he kidnapped her. He kidnapped her and brought it to Billy's house. And then we had her in the basement all tied up. And then Billy came down like he was going to give her the joltz of electricity. But then they were just trying to scare.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It's basically saying that, look, you're going to go to school and you're going to say you cheated and I'm going to get the ribbon. The best in show ribbon. And then so they go, all right, untire, take her home. So when Skinny Man takes her home and goes, all right, look, you need to just stick to what we told you to say. and if you don't, here's your phone. Basically, I know where you live. I'm going to kill your parents. I'm going to kill your dog and all this.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Yeah, because he's like, what's your dog's name? And then she tells him he was like, I'll fucking kill him too. Yeah, I was like, whoa. So, I mean, he doesn't do nothing there. He's just, all right, here, going out. So the next day, or no, that kid gets a phone call from school saying that he won. So he's like, okay, cool, right on whatever. Yeah, he actually, you know, he gets a letter in the mail,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and then he gets the ribbon they sent to him. So Christmas morning comes, or, yeah, Christmas morning comes, Billy runs downstairs to check his presence. He sees a big box, and it says from Santa. He opens it up, and then he's like, fuck, he doesn't cuss. But he, like, gets all mad. He runs outside and screams and then throws something down. into lump of coal.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And so he's just super pissed. He calls up the skinny man again and gives him the assignment to hunt down Santa Claus and kill him. I was like, okay, I love where this story is going. Yeah, which earlier we see that he collects things that are authentically made from Santa's workshop. Like, he has a whole room of things that he buys from people. Like, he just, he's obsessed with Santa Claus. That's what I didn't get. I mean, was there reasons?
Starting point is 00:35:20 I mean, they didn't really explain why he was collecting all that stuff. He was essentially buying stuff. I guess he blamed Santa Claus for him not having a great childhood. and when we get to that scene later on in the movie Santa Claus has an answer for him but essentially I felt like he was buying his childhood back with all these toys yeah because we're talking about the skinny man
Starting point is 00:35:52 Walt Goggins character he is sitting in a room and some guy comes in with a baseball bat and then he's looking at it he's examining it and then at the bottom of the bat by the handle there's a little plaque on it said what's say made by santa or santa's workshop yeah so he offers that guy that guy wanted what two grand or something for it and then he goes i'll give you nine hundred dollars that's not even half i'll give you nine hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:36:23 um obviously that guy took it because he had the bat and then he puts it in uh his little uh collector's room with a bunch of other things all everything bagged up and he but yeah he was buying a lot of authentic toys that were made at Santa's Workshop. So I don't really go into an explanation on that until later on. But I like that. I mean, they really thought about this story. They didn't just want to have it be some assassin, no-name assassin go kill Santa Claus. I mean, there was plenty reasons other than the kid's reason, Billy's reason, for getting a lump of coal.
Starting point is 00:37:03 and then the skinny man had his reasons for what he was doing. I mean, in this, I mean, like we're told, Santa Claus sees everything. He knows when you've been good. He knows when you've been bad and all that. So I like that. The other thing I liked about this version of Santa, he knew everybody's name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Because there's a single thing. Go ahead. Oh, are you talking about the scene in the bar? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he goes to this bar when he comes into town because he has to, you know, check his PO box because, you know, kids write Santa. And he always stops off at this bar and he's he's friends with the bartender. And she's talking to one of the customers and they're talking about meeting up later.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And he's just staring at the guy. And then as soon as she leaves to go in the back to do something. something, he kind of scoops over and calls him out by his name because, you know, Santa knows everybody's name. And he's asking, how are the wife and kids? And basically, if I was you, I would go home to my wife and to your wife and kids. And that's basically how it is. And, you know, he, he knows everything. Santa knows your name. And apparently he knows if you have a wife and kids to go home to. Yeah, because he even said his wife's name. Hey, I was Jessica doing.
Starting point is 00:38:34 That guy was like, what? That was awesome. I mean, after that, I mean, later on, when Santa's around other people, he was calling everyone out by their name. So I thought that was cool. But, so when we're back at the, at Santa's workshop up in, North Peak, Alaska, is where they're at. These guys and suits and an army guy, captain, they come up and they're explaining to him
Starting point is 00:39:13 because when Chris went into town to get his mail, he got a check. And it was only half of what, I guess, what he usually gets. So, I mean, these people, I mean, they know they're the military. And I don't know who these other people were. I assume they were working either for or with the military to help him out with them. I think there were maybe someone from the government to give him money to help.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Well, I guess basically they were paying Santa to be Santa to help him to help him give, by the material to make the toys and everything, keep his workshop going. but the check that he got since Christmas it hasn't been very good he was like shit this is only half of what you're supposed to pay me where's the rest of it and they're like well that's all you're going to get now because Christmas is losing its spirit so they go so but this is what we're going to do
Starting point is 00:40:17 and then that's when the captain stepped in they said look we need you guys we need your workshop for two months this is a job you guys can do it because your workers are super fast meaning the elves. Obviously the elves can work hell of fast because they can crank out toys basically for the whole world.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So they go, okay, we're going to use your shop and they were going to make some components for the new jet fighter for the military. I think it was like the F-29 or something like that. They set it on one of the boxes when they were loading everything up into the Shanta's shop.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So we're going to come up here. You guys are going to build all these parts for us. And we're basically going to turn this into a little military installation because there was military, other than the officers, a bunch of soldiers were around protecting and everything. Because they said there's got to be soldiers here 24 hours a day in the shop to protect what you guys are making. So Santa was like, he was already backed into a corner. He was like, well, all right, man, we'll do it because they needed the money. So, all right, man, do what you got to do. So Santa kind of went into his workshop and made an announcement to all his workers.
Starting point is 00:41:35 This is when we see the elves. So I was like, whoa, I was blown away. I mean, I loved it. It was awesome because when we see the elves, they're little people and with the point of ears and everything. So he kind of comes in, okay, guys, we had a good year. We do have time to make toys, but we're going to be doing this for the military. So here's Captain, whatever his name was. And Captain Jacobs, he's going to be the one running the show while we're doing this.
Starting point is 00:42:11 So, all right, let's just do what we got to do. And then we'll continue business as usual. Yeah, it was only a two-year contract. Oh, okay. How was I thinking two months? It might have been two months. what is it say Chris business
Starting point is 00:42:28 sends Captain Jacobs to propose a two month contract for producing Yeah okay two months So they're like All right So they're going okay So the military comes in They start to bringing in all their gear
Starting point is 00:42:40 For the stuff for the elves to make And they go okay We gotta do some things Everyone's got to have their hand scanned Everyone's got to have a ID badge with your name on it And we need to cut All the bells off
Starting point is 00:42:54 your little pointy shoes because it'll set off the metal detector. I was like, weak. They show all the little elves putting their feet up and there's someone with scissors cutting off all the bells off of their shoes. The thing that thought was going to happen is there was going to be a revolt with the elves and not want to do this. But they were like, all right, whatever. I mean, they were just going with the flow.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yes. Didn't want to argue, didn't want to question. why we're doing this now. It just, all right, man, we're working, we're getting paid. Let's do this. Because, I mean, one of the reasons why Chris took on the contract, I mean, running his work, his Santa's workshop is basically a job for the L's. And he says, I got to pay my workers, but with all the money you guys are giving me
Starting point is 00:43:46 isn't enough. So that's when he was like, all right, well, we kind of have to do this military contract. other than they were just going to get it because the elves worked super fast. So that's why they brought them up there to do it. There was no really any explanation on exactly what part they were making. That was just, okay, this is what you're supposed to do. So why they were doing that. All during this, this is when Billy hires the skinny guy to go after Sandy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Look at me, I got another mission for you. I want you to kill Santa Claus. And he was kind of like, wait, what? He believed in Santa because of all the things he was collecting from people. But killing Santa isn't as easy as the sounds. Because he was like, he didn't know where to begin or where he lived. Because he got on the phone. The skinny guy got on the phone was talking to the operator.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Like he was looking at maps and everything trying to find. where Santa lives. He called up and goes, yeah, anything up in the North Pole, is there any islands, is there any big towns up there? And he was just talking to some lady on the phone, and she was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:45:07 well, there's this and there's that. And then he goes, well, I'm looking for Santa Claus. And then she hangs up the phone on him. He's like, fuck. So the whole time he's trying to just figure out where Chris Kringle lives. so during that time Billy is doing what he's doing
Starting point is 00:45:28 he's actually he actually stole money from his grandmother this is how bad his little fucker was he took some were they like blank checks yeah blank checks
Starting point is 00:45:43 he took these blank checks and then he went into his room had this little I assume it was like an iPad type of thing with a light on it so he and he had a copy of whatever, some kind of
Starting point is 00:45:57 statement with his grandmother's signature on it. So he lit that up. He saw it. He stuck the check on top of it so the light flashing through, he could see through the check and see her signature and he basically just traced her signature. And that is how he was
Starting point is 00:46:13 paying the skinny man to do the job to go kill Chris Kringle. So I thought that was cool. I mean, I like that I mean that's how bad this kid was he was other than he gets his way he's a spoiled rich kid stealing from his his sick grandma so her name was Anne Marie and that's played by Deborah Grover okay so so because she's kind of like sick because she's got oxygen tubes in her nose and everything she's not bedridden but she's just not
Starting point is 00:46:48 feeling too good in the bed so this kid that's is this plot This is the plan here. Here's the money. Go kill Santa Claus. So this is when the scheme man was doing all his research and trying to figure out where, where to start and how can I find him. No, but it was before he got to the mail. He was just kind of just thinking he was at a dead end and anything you can get anywhere. He was watching something on TV or on his laptop and he noticed Santa Claus getting letters.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So he was like, fuck, all right, whatever. So he found some postman out delivering and he asked him, hey, where do you guys send all the mail that goes to Santa Claus? It's supposed to go to the North Pole. And that mailman was like, well, we usually get it all. Then we kind of take it to wherever and drop it off. And he goes at another downtown mail post office. And he was, yeah, we put it all there.
Starting point is 00:47:54 All those letters go there. And then I don't know what they do after that. So he's like, okay, cool, thanks. So, I mean, skinny guy is trying to erase his tracks. So what does he do? Takes out the mail. They don't show it. They just show him pull out his gun and pointing at him.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And the next thing you know, we see the skinny man driving the mail truck. He goes to that post office downtown. I believe he talks to, like, the postmaster and talks to him, like, where do you guys send these letters? You know, like, oh, well, we send them up to North Peak. And he goes, well, do you ever address? He goes, like, no, it's just a post office box. So he's like, all right. So he kind of figures that out.
Starting point is 00:48:43 But, again, trying to erase his tracks, he ends up killed in the postmaster. Which I thought was cool. There was lots of comedy in it to me because when he was killing people, it was actually funny. So he finally figures out where he's going to go or at least get to the area where he thinks Santa Claus is. So he kind of jumps in his car and makes his way through Canada and ends up in Alaska. So during while he's doing that, Santa is still trying to just feel. figure out what they were going to do. The Army and the elves are still building the components for the jet fighters.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Skinny Man finally gets up to North Peak. He goes to the post office where the post office box was because that was the information he got from the postmaster. And he went in there and kind of was asking the other postmaster that was working there. He was asking him, like, where, hey, I'm looking for a friend of mine. he lives this is his post office box and I just want to know if you know where he lives
Starting point is 00:49:56 and they're like oh they're like Chris and they're like yeah him and he's like uh well we don't we don't really know he comes in here every other day to get his mail and that's about much as we know
Starting point is 00:50:08 yeah I think they say they don't even know his last name yeah he was they just knew him as Chris I mean again this is a different Santa He doesn't have the rosy nose and the rosy cheeks. He just looks like a rugged old mountain man. Yeah. A grouchy Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah. Because he was. He was crabby. He did the whole thing. So he's kind of like, oh, okay. So when he's leaving, a lady comes in because he's dropping off a letter or a package or something. It was the bartender. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So they're like, oh. And he was like, hey, is he still driving that green Chevy and the bartender? No, it's a red Ford. Yeah, that's it. So he's like, all right, I know what he drives. I know he's up here because these people see him. And he comes to the post office. They said like every other day.
Starting point is 00:51:05 So now he's posted up outside. Yeah, full steak out. Because, I mean, he's eating. He's pissing in bottles and everything. Just a full stakeout going. He goes to a, I don't want of those little, not a military, not a sporting, I guess it was a sporting good store. He goes in there and he's trying to buy some clothes to help him. Basically, it would be some winter wear, winter gear because it was snowing where there were.
Starting point is 00:51:36 So he goes into there and he buys this snazzy, all white, big coat and pants, snow pants and everything. and some cross-country skis. The only reason I know that is because the skis were really long. So he's sitting outside. He's got all his gear. He's waiting. He's waiting. And here comes Santa.
Starting point is 00:51:55 He pulls up in a truck. He goes in, gets his mail. He's all happy because he got that check, that military check. And it's like more than enough money to keep the shop going. So he's all super-duper happy and friendly and everything. Even everybody in the post office are kind of like looking at him. weird because usually he comes in on mean and grumpy. So he's leaving.
Starting point is 00:52:20 He goes outside to get in his truck. The skinny man is across the street in his car. This is all during broad daylight. I don't know how nobody saw him, but he's pointing this big ass hunting rifle with a silencer out of his window trying to take aim at Santa. But then his big semi gets in the way. So he's like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:52:38 So he, Santa takes off and then he ends up following him all the way home. So he's kind of like, all right, so he knows the area where he lives. So he kind of gears up and then he goes and gets all his gear, new gear he got, and then he heads into the woods towards Santa's workshop. Back at the back of the shop, business as usual, elves are doing what they got to do. This is when they show the scene when they're all eating cakes and cookies and pies and everything and the military guys talking to him.
Starting point is 00:53:13 the elf that's the foreman he goes his name is elf seven all the elves just had numbers and i liked that i thought that was cool i liked elf seven he was he was all about business he was about that this is what we need to do this is what we're gonna do and they ain't gonna be no fucking around because yeah that's when they said that when they had that conversation about that that they need to eat better and he said now we only get 20 20 minute naps and we're all good Yeah, 20 minute naps for like every eight-hour shift. Yeah. Every time the Ls were on screen, it was funny.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I mean, especially number seven. He was just strictly business. And it was always funny when he was talking and everything. So here comes a skinny man. He is, he finds a workshop. He's lurking around. And that's when he noticed. He didn't know this.
Starting point is 00:54:11 All this military stuff was going. going on up there. But when he looks in, as in he sees the soldiers patrol in the area. He takes out the first two soldiers that are basically at the, I assume at the front gate because he throws it or he slides one of his skis into it and they kind of run around to see what it is and then they both get taken out. So he makes his way past them and then finally gets to the workshop. The workshop is pretty much all out in the open. Big old giant bunker type of thing for a building or barn thing for the military also has his reindeer and everything over there
Starting point is 00:54:53 so this is when he just starts taking out every soldier he can see I love this from from this point of the whole movie but from this point on to the end was just a just violent gun gun battle they got the they got the sirens blaring because there's an intruder because he took out geez like I don't know about eight military guys soldiers
Starting point is 00:55:17 that were walking around patrolling yeah go ahead real quick we we kind of skipped over the part where he gets Santa gets his kind of his Christmas spirit back because Mrs. Claus gives him a bunch of
Starting point is 00:55:31 pictures of kids that were happy had happy childhoods from getting Christmas gifts like if they got like a kitchen place that they grew have to be a chef or different things like that. And he goes out and does his deliveries and he comes back. And that's when him and Mrs. Claus bang.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, because she made this big blanket for him and he was all happy to see her. And other than he was happy that he got a big check for the military. He wanted to test out the blanket. So he beats it up. And they don't show it. But they show the aftermath and they're laying there. Yeah, we didn't need to see it. No.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I don't think I want to see old Santa Claus banging his wife. So skinny man is just dusting every military guy in the way because he just lay with just, it was a blood bath. And this is all snow. So there's blood in the snow and everyone's got bullholes on him. He finally makes it into the workshop. After he kills more soldiers that were gone on the door, he kind of goes in and he's looking around. He doesn't know, realize what's happening or what's going on in there. sees the elves.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So he's like, fuck, there's elves. He's never seen him before. This part was awesome right here. He had these little, he had these little charges, little bombs that he made.
Starting point is 00:56:55 He throws one into the workshop, and he's like waiting for it to go off, and it doesn't go off. And then he turns and looks at the door, and there's an elf standing there holding it. And he goes, hey, a little guy.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And then the elf was like, well, who are you? he goes Are you want a Captain Jacobs man He goes yeah I'm one of Captain Jacobs a man And he goes
Starting point is 00:57:18 Um I don't think you want to hold that I think you should put it down And then he realized it was a bomb He goes uh And I think you should just put that down And then the elf looks at him The elf knows what it is
Starting point is 00:57:34 So he goes Why don't you give it to me And then like with the quickness within like half a second. This elf just takes that whole bomb apart. Pulls the guts out and everything. I mean, so it won't blow up. I had to watch that seat a few times.
Starting point is 00:57:52 I was a hell, buddy. And it makes sense because they can build pretty much anything. So, of course, they can take things apart. He took it apart hell of fast. It was just did-da-da-done, and it was already in pieces. And then it's like those scenes you see, when people like take guns apart super fast. It was like that.
Starting point is 00:58:13 He didn't even look at the thing. He was looking straight at the skinny man. He just took it apart. And then he goes running. And then there's when the skinny man runs in there. And it just starts lighting fools up. I was glad he didn't kill any of the elves because all the hells were, everybody was screaming and running for the lives.
Starting point is 00:58:32 But all the military guys that were in there, he was blasting and killing all of them. Number seven makes it over to the little. little um, uh, a little radio box type of thing. And he, and he radio, he radio Santa telling him, we got a code yellow or, or whatever he said. And then so like, so Santa jumps up, pulls his pants on, uh, pulls out this box from under his bed. He's got a pistol and some kind of shotgun in there. So he loads up, gets his clothes on, and then he heads for the shop. Uh, the elves are basically running for their lives and they're just trying to hide. Um, I was, I was glad that, uh, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't,
Starting point is 00:59:10 Because there was bullet fire going everywhere because other than the skinny man was firing, the soldiers were shooting on him as well. Even Captain Jacobs got in on the action. He was out there firing away at the skinny guy. I mean, the skinny guy, he had some high-powered rifle with a silencer on it. But he was just letting fools have it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 He was just laying them down, left and right. Elves were all running for their lives. They kind of made it into this safe part of the workshop. And there was a metal door, so they locked it and hit in there. number seven is by Captain Jacobs and he's like come on come on let's go so but that's when the elf called Santa
Starting point is 00:59:51 set off the alarm and everything everybody was running for the lives so he he kind of gets away Captain Jacobs they're like kind of running outside and then he ends up getting dusted by the skinny guy he's running and he takes a few shots to the back
Starting point is 01:00:09 so he goes down. So the skinny man kind of runs outside and he's standing there and he's firing at more soldiers and then he hears, hey! And then you look up and you see Santa standing on top of the hill. And he's looking at him
Starting point is 01:00:26 and then he starts walking towards him and then he looks at him. And this is when Santa Claus calls the skinny man calls him out by name. And What the hell was his name? Jonathan Miller.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Yeah. He calls him Jonathan Miller. And he goes, I know you had basically not a good life. So, I mean, because again, Santa could see everything. So they're standing there staring at each other. And then the skinny man pulls out this little hot wheel, like a police car. And tell him, he goes. this is all you, this is the last thing you gave me.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And then that, that was a lot of, of the reason why he probably took this job as the frustration that, uh, uh, Santa. Yeah. And Santa, Santa, Santa tells him, like, the one thing he couldn't do was give him new parents. Yeah, because he said, he goes, I can do pretty much everything but that. So he, I mean, uh, skinny man was just mad. So he's like, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:01:38 And then he just pulls out of his rifle. and just starts firing at Santa. Santa pulls out his side arm. He's letting off around shooting at him. They end up ducking behind this big woodpile and having like a gunfight. Santa Claus is hiding behind a car up on the hill, so they're just both shooting back and forth at each other.
Starting point is 01:01:58 So Santa was waiting for the skinny guy to reload because he kind of bends down and starts reloading. Santa Hall's ass runs down towards them and hides the... They're hiding behind the... fast. Yeah, he was. They were hiding behind a big wood piles, chopped up wood, big wood stacks. They were hiding behind
Starting point is 01:02:17 those. So they were looking, and so they were kind of creeping around each other. Santa runs and his skinny guy in the face with a log, and then they kind of get into a battle. What did he say to him right here? I don't remember. Because they were talking for a minute. I cannot remember. I know. I know
Starting point is 01:02:39 what you're talking about right before they come around the side of the wood pile. I can't remember what he says. Yeah, because then they start getting into a fight. So they're kind of roughing each other up. But it says right here, Chris faces
Starting point is 01:02:55 off against Miller and gains the upper hand, but Miller first wounds Chris with a leg mounted spring blade and then shoot him. Oh, okay, wait, let me hold up right there. He's got, this skinny man's got some kind of
Starting point is 01:03:11 blade, kind of like a bayonet blade in his he made this little contraption to where it was on his foot or on his leg. So when Santa Claus and the skinny man were fighting, he
Starting point is 01:03:29 lets out that blade. And well, basically, he took the, he took both of his guns. Santa Claus took both of the skinny man's guns. His rifle, his pistol and he kind of throws it away and they're kind of like talking to him and Chris Santa Claus
Starting point is 01:03:45 is basically just ringing him out and then the skinny guy he lets off he opens he makes that blade pop out and then he stabs Santa on the side Santa, he falls down for a minute he's like fuck
Starting point is 01:04:00 and then he stabs him in the back and it goes like all the way through him basically from the back and it comes out big this big huge long blade and it comes out of the front of him. So he's like oh fuck so he kind of falls down to the ground. The skinny man gets
Starting point is 01:04:17 up and he grabs his he grabs his gun that Santa threw away and then he just kind of holds a gun on him and looks on him and shoots him in the head. Was not expecting that. I wasn't either. I was like oh fuck. Because when he shoots
Starting point is 01:04:33 him he like gets him right in the eye you just see blood go out of the back of his head and just sprays of the ground. with blood. Yeah, I wasn't ready for that. That was a little butt right there. I mean, that was enough getting the blade to the back and coming all the way through them. And because it says, yeah, Chris with the leg mounted spring blade and then shoots Santa in the eye, apparently killing him.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Ruth intervenes, Mrs. Claus, and she's shooting at the skinny man. and then she kind of runs up on him and then shoots him. Did she shoot him in a head? Yeah, the last time. Oh, well, because when she started letting off shots, he started shooting back at her. He shot her a few times.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Yeah, he got her a couple times in the back. Yeah, and then, does she shoot him outside or in the house? Oh, in the house? Yeah. Because she runs off, and that's when he hit, he shot her a few times in the back. back and then she
Starting point is 01:05:41 rolled into the house, he goes into the house and then he's kind of looking around and when she turns, they were in the kitchen and then she just came out of nowhere and shot him, right? Yeah, and I wasn't expecting that either.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Yeah, because it says, backtracking Miller's assignment, he and Ruth pay a visit. I know, wait a minute. Where am I? Ruth intervenes and shoots Miller dead and because he is essentially immortal Chris recovers. I'm just jumping ahead, everyone.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So anyway, so the skinny man follows Ruth into the house. She ends up blasting him with a gun and then and kills him. Did she shoot him in a head or just shot him up? I want to say she shot him in the head because there was a lot of blood
Starting point is 01:06:32 on the ground. Because I know she hit him in the neck because when he fell on the floor on the neck, blood was just squirting out all over the floor. so he's dead and then she runs outside and she runs over to her husband and she's holding him this is when all the elves come running out of hiding and they're like fuck
Starting point is 01:06:54 and they're all crying she's crying because he's laying there dead but then all of a sudden she's like come on come on you're all right you're all right and then he like kind of takes a deep breath and starts coughing so she's all happy that he's still alive again this is Santa Claus and he's got magic magic
Starting point is 01:07:13 uh Wolverine healing ability so there was one thing that we skipped um this
Starting point is 01:07:21 when the military first got there they were unloading all their gear and everything and this forklift dropped uh these big these big wood crates and now these military soldiers were trying to pick it up but they couldn't
Starting point is 01:07:34 but then uh Santa Claus comes over here hold this gives him his uh his cup of coffee then he just ah he'd flips it over. So this Santa Claus got superhuman strength. Super strength, super speed, and can heal like Wolverine and is good with weapons.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And then we didn't even mention the scene when he was hitting a heavy bag with the boxing gloves. So he's got a little bit of hands too. That made me think if they do a lethal weapon five, yeah, he's older. he's much older Martin Riggs I can't see Danny Glover doing it. Yeah, he's the question.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I mean, if they do do it, maybe Danny Glover's son is a cop now and something happens to him and then maybe those two come out of retirement and just try to avenge his son or something.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I don't know. That's the only way I could think of it. Maybe, maybe the most movie will be Danny Glover is retired, but Riggs is not. And his final year, that's when he partners with the son. Yeah, I think, I mean,
Starting point is 01:08:55 Martin Riggs got at least be captain again by this time. Yeah, he probably was demoted again. But I don't know. I mean, I don't, if they make it, yes, we'll see it and we'll be here talking about it. But if they don't, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Did you ever watch that show? show, the TV show that's on? Yeah, I kind of enjoyed it. I just wish they would have called it something else than Lethal Weptan. Is it done? Is it done or? I think so. I haven't heard it.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I haven't finished it, but I haven't heard anything about it. I know the guy that played rigs got replaced because I heard he was not fun to work with on set. So. All right. Replaced him with Stifler. Oh, that's right. Okay. I still want to see it.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I haven't seen it yet. So, uh, we, Santa Claus is alive. So kind of flash forward. Uh, we go to,
Starting point is 01:09:51 uh, Billy's house. Uh, Billy is, uh, uh, in his room. And,
Starting point is 01:09:57 uh, no, we should we see his grandmother. She's on the phone talking about, what? Where's all those money going to? Who's, who's,
Starting point is 01:10:04 who's, who's forging my name? So Billy's hearing all this and he's like, well, okay, whatever. So he kind of, while his grandma is on the phone,
Starting point is 01:10:10 he runs in there. grabs one of her little pill bottles because she's got like a hundred of them on her nightstand. And he runs into his room. He realizes that is why his grandma is looking for the money that he basically stole to give to the skinny man. So he's like taking these pills apart, little capsules, and then dumping him into onto a piece of paper and he poured it in her milk. I can't remember what they said it was. It was because when Santa Claus comes in, he drinks the night. milk and he's like, ah, fentanyl, that would have did the trick.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah, so, because yeah, when he, uh, someone comes knocking on the door and, uh, the, I assume she was the maid. She opens up and looks and then, uh, she's knocking on the door. Hey, Billy, uh, someone's here to see you and goes, I tell you not to leave. I told you to leave me alone. Don't bother me. And then the door opens and here comes, uh, Ruth, uh, Mrs. Claus. She's standing there talking to him, basically telling him, basically telling him, you've been a bad
Starting point is 01:11:11 boy and you're about to get something. And then inwalk Santa Claus, which I thought I was like, oh, that was actually kind of happy. I mean, I knew he was hurt and everything, but he comes walking in.
Starting point is 01:11:23 He's got a big eye patch on. That's all bloody. So, Santa Claus kind of sits down and goes over Billy's talking about, this is, yeah, he drinks the milk and, and it says the fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Which I have questions. I was like, is that one of your powers you just know drugs or have you done drugs? He's Santa Claus. He knows everything. If he can know everybody's name in the world, even when he first meets him, I'm sure he can, he knows what that drug is. I figured it would have helped him, if anything, for his injury. So he basically, shit, what did he tell him? Okay, what did he say?
Starting point is 01:12:09 Chris Carroll, okay. backtracking mills of Simon he and Ruth pay a visit to Billy warning him that from now on Chris will come in come for him and any other kids if they ever turn against the fellow human beings again
Starting point is 01:12:24 yeah basically tell him that look man if you're not going to be a good kid man I'm going to come here and uh he didn't say this is so many words but basically I'm going to come in and kill you so I thought that was cool this was like a perfect ending
Starting point is 01:12:40 I mean, basically Santa came in and scolded him and telling him that you better live your life good and clean yourself up or your ass out. So then it says afterwards, Chris Ruth and the elf crew start rebuilding their workshop and with renewed confidence. Yeah, we go back to the North Pole. We see Santa standing there with Mythets Clause and he's with L7 and you see that all the elves are hard at work
Starting point is 01:13:08 and they're rebuilding. the Santa's workshop. This was something we missed. Right when the skinny man, when he came out, he had another bomb and he threw it into the Santa's workshop and blew it all the hell.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It didn't blow it completely. I kind of just blew basically the front door off and probably some of the ruling. So, yeah, this is when we're at the end is when all the elves are fixing up to shop and everything. Santa, happy ending for them. He's all good.
Starting point is 01:13:38 He's still alive. He's got a hole in his head and his eyes missing, but he's all good. Because he told Billy, look, man, I'm going to be watching. I'm going to keep my eye on you. And as he's standing there, because when he's standing there talking to Billy, he starts taking off the bandage. And then he's standing there staring at him. And then Billy looks over it. And he's like looking away.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And he goes, look at me. So that's what he's standing there staring at him. Then they show Santa Claus and his eyes gone. But there's like a big whole bloody hole right there. So, and that's pretty much the end of your film. We're back up with the North Pole, business as usual, and everyone lives happily ever after. Except for all the military soldiers that got killed, there must have been about 20 of them that were dead. And Skinny Man's Dead, too.
Starting point is 01:14:24 But that was your movie. What are you rating? I'm giving this a 10. I loved everything about it. There wasn't one thing that made me question it or no, no, no, no. nitpicks or anything. I just thought it was awesome. Yeah, maybe the little explanation on why the skinny man was collecting all the toys. But they did explain it, though. He was just sore at Santa. But then again, it was his fault. I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:52 he chose a life of crime. And that's why, and to be bad, that's why he got lumps of cool. So, but what do you think of this? I'm going to give it a 9.5. I can't give it a 10 because of that little reason I would allow a little bit more explanation, a little bit more backstory on the skinny man, but I had fun, awesome film. Everybody did great in it. The action was good. I need a sequel,
Starting point is 01:15:19 and I need a sequel with Billy coming back, except for one hit man, he assembles a whole team to come after Santa Claus. That's what I want to see in the sequel. What I wanted in this would have probably made it my score higher than it is, I was hoping that, or maybe Elf 7, or maybe one of the elves would have picked up one of the guns that was laying around and started firing at the skinny man. Yeah, you can do that in the sequel. If you got a whole team coming after Santa Claus, you can have him assemble his squad.
Starting point is 01:15:57 You get Elf 7 and I don't know, elf whatever and Ruth, Mrs. Claus can join in. I mean, there was guns laying everywhere because the skinny man was dropping those soldiers left and right. So there was fully automatic rifles laying on the ground for anyone to grab. I was hoping at least L7 would have grabbed one and started letting off some rounds because he was next to Captain Jacobs when he got shot. Yeah. So, but yeah, this movie was awesome. I loved it. I loved every minute of it.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I mean, it was a total shocker, too. I did not think it was going to be this good. I thought it was just going to be, okay, that was cool. Nice little action. I mean, there wasn't really much action until the end, but. It was a nice buildup to it, though. Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't two hours, like every other movie that didn't need to be that long. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:00 The movie was, it was well-paced. It kept your attention, and it moved. long. It didn't slow down to make you kind of like bored. I mean, I never, I was watching on my phone. But I mean, even if I was sitting at home watching it on TV, I don't think I would have touched my phone because I was so into the story. Again, this is a totally different Santa Claus. And it was cool. I liked what they were what they were doing in this. So, man, I just, yeah, I got to give it a 10. I mean, I loved everything about it. Probably make my top 10. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I know we didn't go to the movies very much. Went to the theater a couple times before everything went to hell. But as far as the movies have been dropping on all these streaming sites, this is definitely one. I think you guys should check out. You can rent it on Amazon. I think it was like $6.99 or something like that. But, I mean, it's definitely worth it. that or other means.
Starting point is 01:18:09 And it's definitely getting picked up on Blu-ray. Oh, hell yeah. I can't wait for this to come out. Like I said earlier, this is definitely going to get its love every year, every time this year to watch this film. I want my wife to see it. I was telling her my son, my son, he basically watches everything. Hey, let's watch this.
Starting point is 01:18:29 All right. So, but yeah, Fat Man, everyone. Mel Gibson. this movie was awesome. Yeah. Would it be on one of my favorite Mel Gibson films? Yeah, I would say. I mean, other than the Mad Max movies and the Lethal Weapon films.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Well, speaking of Lethal Weapon, over the next couple weeks, we're going to keep this Mel Gibson train going. We are going to do the Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, Lethal Weapon Series, because the first one is the Christmas movie. movie. Of course. So, all right,
Starting point is 01:19:09 man. I mean, I'm, I'm all for it. I mean, yeah, it made me want to watch. I watch The Weapon
Starting point is 01:19:15 every holiday season anyway, as well as Die Hard. Mm-hmm. We already covered Die Hard three. And if anybody don't own lethal weapon and they have HBO Max, the entire series is on there. Yep. So feel free to watch all those and listen.
Starting point is 01:19:34 listen to us break them all down. I think the third one was my least favorite. I don't know what it was. That was the only one I didn't see in the theater. But we'll get into it more than when we get to that film. Fat Man, I love, what does this say on the poster? Fat Man, Tis the season to get even. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:01 All right, man. Tell everybody what you guys got coming up on your side. All right, everyone. Skater Nest Podcast Network. East Society, we haven't done a 200th episode yet. Things weren't working out for us this week. We did drop, Brian and I, we did ESP Rewine. We did the Nicholas,
Starting point is 01:20:30 Joel Schumacher film 1999 Joe Schumacher film 8mmeter definitely go back and listen to that if you guys haven't listened to it yet but everyone that did listen to it thank you so much and I just dropped what's today today's the third
Starting point is 01:20:47 December 1st I just dropped episode 126 of the MacNess podcast and I am joined by the host of Native Film Talk podcast Ian Allen We had a good conversation talking about his show and just talking about other things. He's the same tribe as me. He's from the Navajo Nation.
Starting point is 01:21:09 He was born and raised there. I'm straight out of Oak Town, but I still represent the Navajo Nation. But yeah, it was a good conversation for him and I to just talk about this and that as well as this show. Definitely listen to Native Film Talk. If you guys listen to the episode, down the show notes, I got all his stuff where you can find him. His website, his Facebook page, his YouTube channel, Instagram and Twitter, at Native Film Talk. You can follow him there. But coming up within the next day or so, I got episode 127 of the Magnus Podcast, and I'm going to be talking to...
Starting point is 01:21:57 Hex's name. The host for Skodin Cinema. Sorry, brother. I already forgot your name. I want to say Tyler Randall is his name. Let me. Yeah, Tyler Randall, the host of Skodan Cinema. I did an interview with him.
Starting point is 01:22:18 It's all ready to go. I just got to upload it everyone. But that'll be happening in the next couple of days. Hopefully, the Zisu and I can sit down and knock out our time. 200 episode over there. Yes, I'm going to be talking about this film, but I'll give them a little short review for it because I'm going to tell everyone to go listen to this episode.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Well, we really break down the whole movie for you. Spoilers and all, everyone. So, but yeah, as far as what's going on with us, that is it. Over on, the horror returns, the next couple weeks, we got a Patreon pick episode. The first one is going to be, what are we reviewing? The Blobb, the 1988 version, they live, John Carpenter's They Live, and 1993's Freaked, starring Alex Winter. Of course, you can still listen to the Action Returns episode.
Starting point is 01:23:14 We did our Jiu-Jitsu and hear our feelings about that. THR presents stream fiends. episode two is out Blood for Dracula Andy Warhol's Blood for Dracula Let me hear what we really thought about that one And of course
Starting point is 01:23:36 We got the lethal weapon franchise coming up on action returns And yeah That's pretty much all we got coming up Anything else No man that's it Thanks everyone for listening Oh excuse me
Starting point is 01:23:54 Took a drink and went down the wrong pipe. But yeah, thanks everyone for listening. And sorry. Yeah, good night, everyone. Sorry. Real podcasting, y'all. And until the next time, everybody, stay safe, wear your mask, and be good to each other.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.